Author Topic: S23 EP 15 FINALE "Loyalties Will Be Broken" (Read 28852 times)

Reilly Queens · « **on:** December 09, 2011, 03:24:02 AM »

Survivor: South Pacific
Finale

What an exciting Finale Name

http://www.cbs.com/schedule/

ETA: Thank god it changed

Glamazon Racer · « **Reply #1 on:** December 09, 2011, 03:46:28 AM »

Really original!

Prophet · « **Reply #2 on:** December 09, 2011, 09:07:48 AM »

tell me that's not really the name

Jobby · « **Reply #3 on:** December 11, 2011, 10:27:59 AM »

WTH? Are they trying to make this the worst Survivor season of all?

Glamazon Racer · « **Reply #4 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:55:27 AM »

OMG, the title changed! I'm so relieved.

Reilly Queens · « **Reply #5 on:** December 15, 2011, 04:03:41 PM »

Spoilers!

GO SOPHIE!

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Ozzy comes back to the game, wins immunity, Rick goes home!! Ozzy loses immunity, and of course goes home!

StephenWasHere · « **Reply #6 on:** December 15, 2011, 05:40:29 PM »

GO SOPHIE! SOPHIERCE, SO REAL, SOPHAB, SOPHINE! She's the only one left I can stomach. Ozzy losing though <333333333333 proof he'll never win Survivor even after 5 chances (CI, Micro, 3 times here!). Also, after much thought, splitting my Fan Favorite votes between Dawn and Cochran in hopes that one of them win though I think Ozzy will win it

...or even worse, Russell

Reilly Queens · « **Reply #7 on:** December 16, 2011, 04:15:16 PM »

Promo:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/zg6gmd7OALE?version=3&amp;hl=en_US" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/zg6gmd7OALE?version=3&amp;hl=en_US</a>

Jobby · « **Reply #8 on:** December 16, 2011, 11:41:24 PM »

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Why didn't they get rid of Albert first??

Belle Book · « **Reply #9 on:** December 17, 2011, 10:44:56 AM »

Quote from: Joab on December 16, 2011, 11:41:24 PM

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Why didn't they get rid of Albert first??

If you remember, Albert worked with Coach and Sophie to find the Hidden Immunity Idol. I think that's when they became the core alliance. And Coach is very much about loyalty. He probably won't want to get rid of either Albert or Sophie -- especially since going in, he probably thinks he'll be viewed as better than Sophie and Albert isn't exactly Mr. Popularity.

Belle Book

Glamazon Racer · « **Reply #10 on:** December 18, 2011, 08:14:28 AM »

One thing I hope to see on the reunion is I want Russell to be in the audience, and I want Jeff to ask Russell on his thoughts about the way Brandon played the game. Whether you love him or hate him, it will be an interesting answer!

Jobby · « **Reply #11 on:** December 18, 2011, 09:45:00 AM »

My guess for the order and votes tomorrow -

1. Sophie
2. Coach
3. Albert
4. Ozzy
5. Rick
6. Brandon

Keith - Sophie
Jim - Sophie
Dawn - Sophie
Whitney - Sophie
Cochran - Coach
Edna - Coach
Brandon - Coach
Rick - Sophie/Coach
Ozzy - Coach/Sophie

We might have a 6v3 or 5v4 depending on who will Ozzy and Rick vote for. Yep.

Jobby · « **Reply #12 on:** December 18, 2011, 09:45:45 AM »

I don't know how to post videos but take a look at this video on Survivor 23.

BEATS THE ENTIRE SEASON.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4SdHTUJQSzg

StephenWasHere · « **Reply #13 on:** December 18, 2011, 09:47:52 AM »

Quote from: Joab on December 18, 2011, 09:45:45 AM

I don't know how to post videos but take a look at this video on Survivor 23.

BEATS THE ENTIRE SEASON.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4SdHTUJQSzg

Haha that video is great! Especially with Whitney's "Skinny Dippin'" cameo

Evil Sophie w/ Red Eyes <33333333 WIN IT GURL!

Glamazon Racer · « **Reply #14 on:** December 18, 2011, 09:53:11 AM »

Quote from: Joab on December 18, 2011, 09:45:45 AM

I don't know how to post videos but take a look at this video on Survivor 23.

BEATS THE ENTIRE SEASON.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4SdHTUJQSzg

OMG, that made my day! One of the most hilarious things I've ever seen!

coolio · « **Reply #15 on:** December 18, 2011, 12:32:08 PM »

As my new avatar shows, Sophie better win! I have bet money on her!

RealityFreakWill · « **Reply #16 on:** December 18, 2011, 03:30:10 PM »

Here you go....

Murtz Jaffer Murtz's Official Survivor winner for tonight's finale is Sophie Clark winning.

Prophet · « **Reply #17 on:** December 18, 2011, 03:37:20 PM »

Quote from: RealityFreakWill on December 18, 2011, 03:30:10 PM

Here you go....

Murtz Jaffer Murtz's Official Survivor winner for tonight's finale is Sophie Clark winning.

TexasLady · « **Reply #18 on:** December 18, 2011, 06:39:21 PM »

** Revised start times for tonight's CBS programs: 60 Minutes (7:33pm ET, 6:33pm CT) and Survivor Finale & Reunion (8:33pm ET, 7:33pm CT) due to CBS Sports live coverage of the NFL. **

Reilly Queens · « **Reply #19 on:** December 18, 2011, 08:18:51 PM »

Catfight between Ozzy & Sophie

Meow Ozzy.

Reilly Queens · « **Reply #20 on:** December 18, 2011, 08:24:18 PM »

RICK just joined Stacey in the "I hate hugs from Coach" Club!

TexasLady · « **Reply #21 on:** December 18, 2011, 08:45:15 PM »

I CAN'T stand the suspense!!

ZBC Company · « **Reply #22 on:** December 18, 2011, 09:01:41 PM »

oh i cant wait

Reilly Queens · « **Reply #23 on:** December 18, 2011, 09:41:01 PM »

CONGRATS TO SOPHIE CLARKE, WINNER OF SURVIVOR 23!!!!!!

Jobby · « **Reply #24 on:** December 18, 2011, 10:30:13 PM »

I didn't even bother to watch the show. I just came in and saw Kandace's post.

Jobby · « **Reply #25 on:** December 18, 2011, 10:31:34 PM »

I'm also glad that since Sandra in S20, a girl won again.

Jobby · « **Reply #26 on:** December 18, 2011, 10:34:06 PM »

Sophie did win 6 votes! How predictable can this season get?

Jobby · « **Reply #27 on:** December 18, 2011, 11:00:14 PM »

Ozzy         > Sophie (Could have gone either way)
Rick         > Sophie (Could have gone either way)
Brandon      > Coach
Edna      > Sophie (!!!)

Cochran      > Coach
Whitney      > Sophie
Dawn      > Sophie
Keith      > Sophie
Jim        > Coach (I'm shocked)

georgiapeach · « **Reply #28 on:** December 18, 2011, 11:09:55 PM »

Where did that info come from??

Kate04 · « **Reply #29 on:** December 18, 2011, 11:13:50 PM »

Coach, for all his pretense of insight, blew it totally when he voted Brandon off to RI. Had he not betrayed Brand
on and sent Sophie instead, he would be holding the mill. The jury even said that he would have won if Sophie had not been in the F3 and it was Coach himself that let her stay!!

Oh well Coach please accept that you were not meant to win Survivor and move on

Cocoa · « **Reply #30 on:** December 18, 2011, 11:17:39 PM »

any sneak peeks for Survivor: 24 (Survivor: OW)?

Jobby · « **Reply #31 on:** December 19, 2011, 02:45:46 AM »

Quote from: georgiapeach on December 18, 2011, 11:09:55 PM

Where did that info come from??

Wiki~~~~~~~~~~

Glamazon Racer · « **Reply #32 on:** December 19, 2011, 03:07:20 AM »

For almost th entirety of this season, Sophie was either on my 'Neutral' list, or my 'Dislike' list, but I absolutely loved her on this finale! The first Tribal Council was emotional, the second Immunity Challenge was just WOW, and then Coach crowns her the new Dragon Slayer

and she played the Final Tribal very well. I think most of that jury was looking for honesty, and Sophie delivered, and I especially loved when she revealed everything that happened with regards to Coach's Hidden Immunity Idol!

At the beginning of this episode, I would've been quite disappointed with this outcome, but now, I am actually OK with it, although I do feel that Coach deserved to win, but blew it in the last few episodes.

Bring on Season 24!

Ruth · « **Reply #33 on:** December 19, 2011, 03:37:20 AM »

This was the first time in YEARS that I was truly happy when I saw the winner's name on the parchment! Up till the end, it was still a suspense for me as I thought that Coach could still win the game. My heart was thumping when Jeff was reading the final votes and when Sophie was declared the winner, boy was I ecstatic!

I did think Sophie could win but this episode seemed to portray her in quite a negative light. First it was her "brat factor" asking Albert to stop building his house of cards and instead help her pick up her pieces. Then Ozzy cashed in on that during Tribal Council, leading to her breakdown. I thought that the jury wouldn't be very impressed with that. And during the final Tribal Council, the jury didn't really have much good to say to her, criticising her social game. I thought that didn't look good on her and that Coach could have won the million after all.

It was an interesting final Tribal Council I must say. As viewers, I dare say a number of us were rooting for Sophie to win. But she seemed so unlikeable to the other contestants. Coach was insulted for his hypocritical gameplay, and Albert was just... Totally out of the running. With Coach and Sophie both shown rather negatively, I felt that either of them could win, leaning towards Coach a little.

Sophie winning really salvaged the season for me. She was the one I rooted for since the beginning, and the only one I rooted for after Dawn was eliminated. While I felt that the edit was setting up Coach to win, I THANK GOD that he didn't win in the end. I mean, I actually like him this season and I respect his gameplay. IMO, he really did redeem himself this season. But I still wouldn't want him to win. THANK GOD for Sophie winning. It made this a good season (minus some episodes of predictability), just because a favourite won. Yeah!

Jobby · « **Reply #34 on:** December 19, 2011, 04:24:26 AM »

Okay, I'm still not an Ozzy fan and I'll sum up my dislike for him in one scenario below.

*Ozzy before final immunity challenge*
Ozzy: I'm going to win and own all their asses. TAKE THAT BI*CHES FOR VOTING ME OUT
*Ozzy after final immunity challenge*
Ozzy: I came so close yet so far, it's down to this one final immunity challenge again.

For the record Ozzy, I don't deny that you're a strong player. But your smugness is suffocating me. I hope they don't get you back for another season again. You bring no strategic move, you bring no backstabbing (or rather you get backstabbed) and you're as boring as a player Rick is.

realshowfan · « **Reply #35 on:** December 19, 2011, 07:06:28 AM »

YAY!!!! I was rooting for Ozzy out of the final 7 but Sophie (or at least her edit) was awesome! I really hope it was a character building experience for her.

Glamazon Racer · « **Reply #36 on:** December 19, 2011, 07:10:18 AM »

Quote from: Joab on December 19, 2011, 04:24:26 AM

Okay, I'm still not an Ozzy fan and I'll sum up my dislike for him in one scenario below.

*Ozzy before final immunity challenge*
Ozzy: I'm going to win and own all their asses. TAKE THAT BI*CHES FOR VOTING ME OUT
*Ozzy after final immunity challenge*
Ozzy: I came so close yet so far, it's down to this one final immunity challenge again.

For the record Ozzy, I don't deny that you're a strong player. But your smugness is suffocating me. I hope they don't get you back for another season again. You bring no strategic move, you bring no backstabbing (or rather you get backstabbed) and you're as boring as a player Rick is.

Gotta agree with that.

The only thing I'd change is that he's more boring than Rick!

Prophet · « **Reply #37 on:** December 19, 2011, 07:18:40 AM »

Quote from: Kandace on December 18, 2011, 09:41:01 PM

CONGRATS TO SOPHIE CLARKE, WINNER OF SURVIVOR 23!!!!!!

realshowfan · « **Reply #38 on:** December 19, 2011, 07:24:44 AM »

I am watching the reunion right now and I just want to say SHUT THE HELL UP JEFF!!! NO IDEAS OF ANYTHING RUSSELL-RELATED, ESPECIALLY if it includes RUSSELL HANTZ IN THE GAME!!!

Alfwin · « **Reply #39 on:** December 19, 2011, 07:37:51 AM »

Quote from: realshowfan on December 19, 2011, 07:24:44 AM

I am watching the reunion right now and I just want to say SHUT THE HELL UP JEFF!!! NO IDEAS OF ANYTHING RUSSELL-RELATED, ESPECIALLY if it includes RUSSELL HANTZ IN THE GAME!!!

THIS!!!!!

Glamazon Racer · « **Reply #40 on:** December 19, 2011, 07:48:10 AM »

I haven't seen the reunion yet, but does Russell talk a lot? (as usual)

(Closet Russell Hantz fan...

)

Peace, Love, TAR! :D · « **Reply #41 on:** December 19, 2011, 08:23:26 AM »

By talk a lot, he was a complete jerk to Brandon.....

Reality_Gal · « **Reply #42 on:** December 19, 2011, 08:52:46 AM »

So happy Ozzy won the 100,000 by a LANDSLIDE! Worst final 3 EVER LOL @ Sophie. She was an a-hole to Albert and I did not want her to win but oh well she did.

One of the worst seasons ever. Glad it's over and I am ready for Feb.

Jobby · « **Reply #43 on:** December 19, 2011, 08:54:23 AM »

Erm, I thought the one being the a-hole was Albert all this while?

Reality_Gal · « **Reply #44 on:** December 19, 2011, 08:55:49 AM »

No Sophie was the a-hole. She told Albert to drop his pieces? Why is she trying to cheat? The woman is one of the worst Survivor winners of all-time.

LOL

Reality_Gal · « **Reply #45 on:** December 19, 2011, 08:59:39 AM »

I don't view Ozzy as boring. I think he is confident, sexy, smart and can be a dumb player at times. He won the 100,000 and the fans loved him. Once again Ozzy saved this season for me because if he was not on this season I don't think I would have watched. The fans loved Ozzy! One of the most popular characters in survivor history and him winning the 100,000 grand proves it.

He deserved the money and IMO is the winner of survivor. No offense to Sophie the spoiled little brat.

Hell Russell Hantz was snubbed TWICE LOL

TexasLady · « **Reply #46 on:** December 19, 2011, 11:01:23 AM »

I don't think Ozzy was a dull or boring player but I do think he made a stupid move when he returned to the final 5. He could have tried to bond a little instead he attacked for no apparent reason at both TCs. He made Sophie a victim and it backfired.

It was amazing to watch him win challenge after challenge on RI and I was hoping he'd win the final challenge as well.

Reality_Gal · « **Reply #47 on:** December 20, 2011, 08:40:52 AM »

As for gameplay, he was on Redemption Island 80 % of the game so I will say he never even really had a chance to play a game.

Just as his other tribe members considering Cochran the Cockroach screwed them all over. I will always be happy knowing the entire jury would have voted for Ozzy if he had made it to the final. Anyhow, he won his 100,000 wooo!!!

Jobby · « **Reply #48 on:** December 20, 2011, 10:31:42 AM »

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As for gameplay, he was on Redemption Island 80 % of the game so I will say he never even really had a chance to play a game.

That is certainly not true. He had a chance to play, and he chose to be voted off instead of Christine. Had Christine beat Cochran, she would have join Savaii. That will make a 6 vs 6 and we know Christine will never go back to Upolu.

So Ozzy screwed his own game. He only survived that far because of a RI twist. Yes, he did win 100,000 but certainly as a player who played the game 3 times, I deem him in comparison with Coach as one of the few players who got to play the game 3 times and never got smarter. Hello, Survivor is all about the social game...? NO?

Had he not treated Cochran like he was a second class citizen, Cochran may not have backstabbed the tribe too. There were so many possibilities and Ozzy was part of the reason of his own demise too.

Belle Book · « **Reply #49 on:** December 20, 2011, 07:02:32 PM »

Quote from: Joab on December 20, 2011, 10:31:42 AM

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As for gameplay, he was on Redemption Island 80 % of the game so I will say he never even really had a chance to play a game.

That is certainly not true. He had a chance to play, and he chose to be voted off instead of Christine. Had Christine beat Cochran, she would have join Savaii. That will make a 6 vs 6 and we know Christine will never go back to Upolu.

So Ozzy screwed his own game. He only survived that far because of a RI twist. Yes, he did win 100,000 but certainly as a player who played the game 3 times, I deem him in comparison with Coach as one of the few players who got to play the game 3 times and never got smarter. Hello, Survivor is all about the social game...? NO? Had he not treated Cochran like he was a second class citizen, Cochran may not have backstabbed the tribe too. There were so many possibilities and Ozzy was part of the reason of his own demise too.

I pretty much agree with you, Joab and not with Reality Gal (an obvious Ozzy fan). Ozzy screwed his own game in two ways. First, as you mentioned, he volunteered to get sent to Redemption Island. Even if he didn't realize that Christine would very likely have gone to Savaii if she'd come back at the merge, volunteering to be voted out is not very smart!

The second and bigger error is the way he treated Cochran. Yeah, I'm going to concede that the accusation of bullying was overblown, but still Ozzy never really made Cochran feel like a real part of Savaii. Compare him with Sophie and Coach, both of whom did their best to make sure that people like Edna felt comfortable so that they wouldn't be tempted to flip. If Ozzy (and the rest of Savaii) had made Cochran feel more comfortable, especially after Cochran fouled up the final Immunity Challenge before the merge, Cochran wouldn't have been as vulnerable to the suggestion that he flip.

I don't hate Ozzy. I admire and respect his challenge prowess. But is he a great strategist? No way! Is he good at the social game? No. I won't let his challenge prowess blind me to his strategic and social flaws.

Belle Book

SuperTux · « **Reply #50 on:** December 20, 2011, 11:44:47 PM »

"All Christians prayed; a Jew won." -- Quoted from Baidu Forum

Kate04 · « **Reply #51 on:** December 20, 2011, 11:57:39 PM »

Vicious is the word for how it got when the tribe began to turn on one another. This is the part that always gets me; they are lovey dovey when they're knocking out the other tribe one by one and one big loving family in the process. But as soon as there's no one left to boot and one of their own gets kicked out ie Rick, the hatred is so thick you could cut it. Now really, what did Rick expect to happen? I don't think I have seen such hatred from a jury member ever as I did in Rick's eyes as he faced the F3.

Rick you may be a nice guy but the down home cowboy hat just isn't gonna get you to the mill.

SuperTux · « **Reply #52 on:** December 21, 2011, 03:08:35 AM »

I do hope Jim gives it a second shot someday. I like his gameplay.

Prophet · « **Reply #53 on:** December 21, 2011, 11:29:09 AM »

Quote from: SuperTux on December 21, 2011, 03:08:35 AM

I do hope Jim gives it a second shot someday. I like his gameplay.

Yuck.

Jobby · « **Reply #54 on:** December 21, 2011, 02:19:54 PM »

Quote from: Prophet on December 21, 2011, 11:29:09 AM

Quote from: SuperTux on December 21, 2011, 03:08:35 AM
I do hope Jim gives it a second shot someday. I like his gameplay.

Yuck.

Glamazon Racer · « **Reply #55 on:** December 22, 2011, 12:31:15 AM »

Quote from: Joab on December 21, 2011, 02:19:54 PM

Quote from: Prophet on December 21, 2011, 11:29:09 AM
Quote from: SuperTux on December 21, 2011, 03:08:35 AM
I do hope Jim gives it a second shot someday. I like his gameplay.

Yuck.

I've only seen about 5 seasons of Survivor, but Jim is my least favourite player throughout those seasons, except maybe Sash from Nicaragua.

Jobby · « **Reply #56 on:** December 22, 2011, 04:08:10 AM »

Erm. Naonka?

Russell?

Philip?

SuperTux · « **Reply #57 on:** December 22, 2011, 06:50:09 PM »

Quote from: racer on December 22, 2011, 12:31:15 AM

Quote from: Joab on December 21, 2011, 02:19:54 PM
Quote from: Prophet on December 21, 2011, 11:29:09 AM
Quote from: SuperTux on December 21, 2011, 03:08:35 AM
I do hope Jim gives it a second shot someday. I like his gameplay.

Yuck.

I've only seen about 5 seasons of Survivor, but Jim is my least favourite player throughout those seasons, except maybe Sash from Nicaragua.

Well... I've only watched 3 seasons...

Glamazon Racer · « **Reply #58 on:** December 22, 2011, 08:07:38 PM »

Quote from: Joab on December 22, 2011, 04:08:10 AM

Erm. Naonka?

Russell?

Philip?

My three favourites!!!!!

(Plus Parvati!)

BTW, I have actually seen 6 seasons and I didn't realise (Cook Islands + Samoa onwards).

Jobby · « **Reply #59 on:** December 22, 2011, 11:27:10 PM »

Oh dear racer...

I don't know why you liked them... but oh well. I hope you didn't like Brandon too.

All these people drove me nuts when they were on their season.

Glamazon Racer · « **Reply #60 on:** December 23, 2011, 06:22:38 AM »

Quote from: Joab on December 22, 2011, 11:27:10 PM

Oh dear racer...

I don't know why you liked them... but oh well. I hope you didn't like Brandon too.

All these people drove me nuts when they were on their season.

Not a Brandon fan.

Phillip Sheppard - that guy is the best thing to happen to this world! Nowadays, every time I just read/hear his name, I start spontaneously laughing!

So many memories!

As for NaOnka and Russell, I do enjoy watching most Villains, because Villains are generally more interesting than Heroes (obviously with some big exceptions). Maybe my opinions would be different if I had seen more seasons of the show, but having seen the ones I have, I like those castaways that you mentioned.

Reality_Gal · « **Reply #61 on:** December 23, 2011, 09:44:36 AM »

And he still won duel after duel. Ozzy was the best player this season and deserved the money more than anyone.

Brat Sophie won even though she didn't deserve to win. That's okay she joins the worst survivor winners ever list along with Sandra, Natalie. Ozzy 100,000 grand and IMO we will see him again during an all-star season.

Ozzy was the only thing worth watching this season.

Reality_Gal · « **Reply #62 on:** December 23, 2011, 09:45:38 AM »

Quote from: SuperTux on December 21, 2011, 03:08:35 AM

I do hope Jim gives it a second shot someday. I like his gameplay.

I did too. I don't think Jim, Keith, Whitney, Dawn or Ozzy had a chance to honestly play their entire game.

Prophet · « **Reply #63 on:** December 23, 2011, 09:46:44 AM »

Stacey was so robbed kthx

Aussie · « **Reply #64 on:** December 23, 2011, 02:02:41 PM »

Quote from: Prophet on December 23, 2011, 09:46:44 AM

Stacey was so robbed kthx

And Christine.

Peace, Love, TAR! :D · « **Reply #65 on:** December 23, 2011, 10:46:38 PM »

Quote from: Reality_Gal on December 23, 2011, 09:44:36 AM

Brat Sophie won even though she didn't deserve to win. That's okay she joins the worst survivor winners ever list along with Sandra, Natalie.

No offense, but this comment really irks me. To win Survivor, you don't have to make bold moves or be America's Favorite Player. All you have to do is make it to Final Tribal Council, and get the most amount of jury votes, which is what Sophie did. How does she not deserve it then?

Yeah, people like Sophie, and Sandra, and Natalie may not have been entertaining to some people, but they did what Russell and Coach could not, which is convince the jury to vote for them at the end. Did Russell make bigger moves than Sandra and Natalie? Sure, but by doing so he angered multiple members of the jury in the process, making it extremely likely for them to vote for him. And while Coach was in control of the Upolu tribe, he too, angered people by not only constantly claiming to playing with "honor and integrity" but continuing his facade at Final Tribal Council, when he should have owned up to the moves he made.

So although you may not like their wins (personally, I too am not that big of a fan of Sophie) you have to give them credit for doing what the other players didn't, which is make it to the end, get enough jury votes, and ultimately win the $1 million.

Sorry if this sounds like a long ramble.....

SuperTux · « **Reply #66 on:** December 24, 2011, 06:32:59 PM »

Quote from: Peace, Love, TAR! :D on December 23, 2011, 10:46:38 PM

Quote from: Reality_Gal on December 23, 2011, 09:44:36 AM
Brat Sophie won even though she didn't deserve to win. That's okay she joins the worst survivor winners ever list along with Sandra, Natalie.

No offense, but this comment really irks me. To win Survivor, you don't have to make bold moves or be America's Favorite Player. All you have to do is make it to Final Tribal Council, and get the most amount of jury votes, which is what Sophie did. How does she not deserve it then?

Yeah, people like Sophie, and Sandra, and Natalie may not have been entertaining to some people, but they did what Russell and Coach could not, which is convince the jury to vote for them at the end. Did Russell make bigger moves than Sandra and Natalie? Sure, but by doing so he angered multiple members of the jury in the process, making it extremely likely for them to vote for him. And while Coach was in control of the Upolu tribe, he too, angered people by not only constantly claiming to playing with "honor and integrity" but continuing his facade at Final Tribal Council, when he should have owned up to the moves he made.

So although you may not like their wins (personally, I too am not that big of a fan of Sophie) you have to give them credit for doing what the other players didn't, which is make it to the end, get enough jury votes, and ultimately win the $1 million.

Sorry if this sounds like a long ramble.....

It just reminds me of the aphorism said by Deng Xiaoping, former leader of China. "Any cat that can catch mice is a good cat, whatever its color is."

Kate04 · « **Reply #67 on:** December 25, 2011, 03:40:11 PM »

Quote from: Дussie Бabushka on December 23, 2011, 02:02:41 PM

Quote from: Prophet on December 23, 2011, 09:46:44 AM
Stacey was so robbed kthx

And Christine.

Christine did it to herself in the first minutes of the game she made that snide remark about Coach and from that moment on, she was toast. She should have had the insight to keep her thoughts to herself and she might have gone far. But she wasn't robbed, IMO!!

Aussie · « **Reply #68 on:** December 25, 2011, 04:01:45 PM »

I mean at Redemption Island.

Jobby · « **Reply #69 on:** December 27, 2011, 05:35:43 AM »

Christine and Stacey resulted in their own downfall.

Glamazon Racer · « **Reply #70 on:** December 28, 2011, 09:57:45 AM »

Also, did you guys notice that at the Reunion, the cast were sitting slightly out of their order of elimination?

The second row should have been: Jim (1st Duel Loser), Keith (2nd Duel Loser), Dawn (3rd Duel Loser), Whitney (4th Duel Loser), Cochran (5th Duel Loser) and Edna (6th Duel Loser), however, it was actually Jim, Dawn, Keith, Whitney, Cochran and Edna.

Dawn and Keith were sitting the wrong way round. I think the reason for it is quite obvious - Whitney and Keith are a couple - but has it ever happened before that the cast was sitting in the wrong order?

Reilly Queens · « **Reply #71 on:** December 28, 2011, 09:59:26 AM »

Quote from: racer on December 28, 2011, 09:57:45 AM

Also, did you guys notice that at the Reunion, the cast were sitting slightly out of their order of elimination?

The second row should have been: Jim (1st Duel Loser), Keith (2nd Duel Loser), Dawn (3rd Duel Loser), Whitney (4th Duel Loser), Cochran (5th Duel Loser) and Edna (6th Duel Loser), however, it was actually Jim, Dawn, Keith, Whitney, Cochran and Edna.

Dawn and Keith were sitting the wrong way round. I think the reason for it is quite obvious - Whitney and Keith are a couple - but has it ever happened before that the cast was sitting in the wrong order?

They switched Cesternino & Richard on All Stars I believe.. since the whole Richard/Susan thing.

Aussie · « **Reply #72 on:** December 28, 2011, 01:44:25 PM »

I only just got around to watching it, but I had to switch it off not even half way through because I was getting annoyed how much they used God. Like honestly, it seemed like Survivor was shoving religion down our throat.

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