Topic: RFF TAR 19 Pick'em Game

[kiki]

This is the first time going with gut feeling pays off.. anyone else had Amani and Marcus coming in first?

Me! In both games. It was a last minute inspiration and it paid off.

[mswood]

This is the first time going with gut feeling pays off.. anyone else had Amani and Marcus coming in first?

Noooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!


Seriously I didn't think the preview would be so on the nose.

[mswood]

This week on MSWOOD is LAZY edition of the Pickem Game.


RFF Pick'em Game #5 Lazy Edition Ends Oct 23rd 7:55pm

1. 10 Points - Do we get updated Intros this week?
No

2. 10 Points - Do all teams depart the Pit Stop within one hour of the first team?
No

3. 10 Points- Any mention of the Express Pass?
No

4. 10 Points - Which comes first?
Elephant riding

5. 10 Points - Do Liz & Marie ever get out of last place (per onscreen credits)?
No, HaHa

6. 10 Points - Any hours of Operations in this leg?
No

7. 10 Points - Who says the Title, "I feel like I'm in the circus"?
A Female

8. 25 Points - Which team is first to complete the Roadblock? 15 Points awarded to Team #2, 5 Points awarded to Team #3.
Andy & Tommy 25
Justin & Jennifer 15
Jeremy & Sandy 5 for Second RB
Laurence & Zac 5 for first RB

9. 25 Points - What team is first to complete the Detour? 15 Points awarded for Team #2, 5 Points awarded to Team #3.
There is no Detour

10. 10 Points - Is the Speedbump located closest to?
A General Task/ Active Routemarker
Roadblock

I am leaning with both answers because I never did define active route marker this season.  The real answer is RB as the elephant ride is just a form of transport.  Still haven't decided so make your case!

11. 10 Points - Does the winning team win a trip to a location that is on the same continent as the Pit Stop?
Yes. Asia

12. 10 Points - Does Justin perform the Roadblock
Yes

13. 10 Points - Does Marcus do the Roadblock?
Yes

14. 10 Points - Do Marie & Liz lose any positions while performing the Speedbump?
No, HAHA

15. 10 Points - Do any teams receive a penalty in this leg (and no the Speedbump doesn't count)?
No

16. 10 Points - At the Mat do we ever see two teams together?
Yes


17. 50 Points - Which team checks into the Pit Stop as team number one? 40 Points for team #2, 30 Points Team #3, 20 Points Team #4, 10 Points for all others (Bonus).
Andy & Tommy
Justin & Jennifer 20
Jeremy & Sandy
Laurence & Zac
Ernie & Cindy 30
Amani & Marcus 50
Bill & Cathi 40
Liz & Marie

10 for all others these weeks bonus

18 - 10 Points - Which team gets eliminated?
Liz & Maire, HAHAHAHAHA


All laughter at Liz & Marie is solely meant to annoy Joab.  I liked them, especially this leg.

[Polaroid]

This is the first time going with gut feeling pays off.. anyone else had Amani and Marcus coming in first?

I thought they were going to get eliminated.

[kiki]

10. 10 Points - Is the Speedbump located closest to?
A General Task/ Active Routemarker
Roadblock

I am leaning with both answers because I never did define active route marker this season.  The real answer is RB as the elephant ride is just a form of transport.  Still haven't decided so make your case!

Although I answered "active routemarker" I agree it's closer to the RB, since they never got a clue saying ride an elephant. Their clue just said take local transportation.

[Jobby]

10. 10 Points - Is the Speedbump located closest to?
A General Task/ Active Routemarker
Roadblock

I am leaning with both answers because I never did define active route marker this season.  The real answer is RB as the elephant ride is just a form of transport.  Still haven't decided so make your case!

Although I answered "active routemarker" I agree it's closer to the RB, since they never got a clue saying ride an elephant. Their clue just said take local transportation.

I chose active routemarker and think that the way they edited it, the elephant riding is part of the Roadblock.

[Prophet]

To me, it's actually not a task at all it is more like a taxi or the boats from last time.

[Jobby]

Prophet, I think it's definitely a task... riding the elephant to the next location... you don't do that in the race like often...

[kiki]

I almost missed the questions this week. I didn't realize they were posted!

[mswood]

Sorry everyone i have been working double shifts since Wednesday.

Here are this weeks question:


1. 25 Points - Which racer states the title, "We love your country, it's so spacious"? 10 points if your pick is the partner of the person who states the title.
Amani
Marcus
Bill
Cathi
Ernie
Cindy
Justin
Jennifer
Andy
Tommy
Laurence
Zac
Jeremy
Sandy
Something else

2. 5 Points - Do we get new intros?
Yes
No

3. 5 Points - Do we hear how much money teams receive?
Yes
No

4. 15 Points - How much time separates Justin & Jennifer and Jeremy & Sandy in leaving the Pit Stop?
1-15 minutes
16-30 minutes
31-45 minutes
46-60 minutes
61-90 minutes
91-120 minutes
More then two hours

5. 5 Points- Does this leg contain a U-Turn?
Yes
No

6. 15 Points - Which team is 1st to complete the Roadblock?
Amani and Marcus
Bill and Cathi
Ernie and Cindy
Justin and Jennifer
Andy and Tommy
Laurence and Zac
Jeremy and Sandy
There is no Roadblock


7. 15 Points - Which teams gains the most positions performing the Roadblock?
Amani and Marcus
Bill and Cathi
Ernie and Cindy
Justin and Jennifer
Andy and Tommy
Laurence and Zac
Jeremy and Sandy
All teams end in the same positions they started the task
More then one team

8. 15 Points - Which team is first to complete the Detour?
Amani and Marcus
Bill and Cathi
Ernie and Cindy
Justin and Jennifer
Andy and Tommy
Laurence and Zac
Jeremy and Sandy
There is no detour

9. 15 Points - Which team gains the most positions in performing the Detour?
Amani and Marcus
Bill and Cathi
Ernie and Cindy
Justin and Jennifer
Andy and Tommy
Laurence and Zac
Jeremy and Sandy
All teams start and end in the same position
More then one team

10. 5 Points - is carrying the bed frames?
Part of the Roadblock
Part of the Detours
An active Route Marker

11. 5 Points - Are the teams carrying beds that they will be using at the Pit Stop?
Yes
No

12. 15 Points - What team loses the most positions in carrying the bed frames?
Amani and Marcus
Bill and Cathi
Ernie and Cindy
Justin and Jennifer
Andy and Tommy
Laurence and Zac
Jeremy and Sandy
Start and end in the same order
More then one team

13. 5 Points - What place do Amani and Marcus check into the Pit Stop?
1-2
3-4
5-6
7

14. 5 Points - What position do Bill and Cathi check into the Pit Stop?
1-2
3-4
5-6
7

15. 5 Points - What position do Ernie and Cindy check into the Pit Stop?
1-2
3-4
5-6
7

16. 5 Points - What position do Justin and Jennifer check into the Pit Stop?
1-2
3-4
5-6
7

17. 5 Points - What position do Andy and Tommy check into the Pit Stop?
1-2
3-4
5-6
7

18. 5 Points - What position does Laurence and Zac check into the Pit Stop?
1-2
3-4
5-6
7

19. 5 Points - What position does Jeremy and Sandy check into the Pit Stop?
1-2
3-4
5-6
7

20. 15 Points - Which team is eliminated?
Amani and Marcus
Bill and Cathi
Ernie and Cindy
Justin and Jennifer
Andy and Tommy
Laurence and Zac
Jeremy and Sandy
Non elimination

21. 15 Points - Which team gets U-Turned?
Amani and Marcus
Bill and Carhi
Ernie and Cindy
Justin and Jennifer
Andy and Tommy
Laurence and Zac
Jeremy and Sandy
Two teams
No one uses the U-Turn
There isnt any U-Turns in this episode

22. 5 Points - Do any teams get a penalty?
Yes
No

23. 10 Bonus Points- Which makes you more uncomfortable?
A team talking about a religion that goes against the racers religious beliefs
A racer blaming their partner for a mistake they were the ones to make

[mswood]

Prophet, I think it's definitely a task... riding the elephant to the next location... you don't do that in the race like often...

I am awarding points for both. 

[mswood]

NOTE:

Transportation between one part of the race to another part of the race will be consider general travel and not a task.

Last episode is was travel from the road to the roadblock, and back.

[mswood]

My answers for this week ( and there is definite possible discussion points)

1. 25 Points - Which racer states the title, "We love your country, it's so spacious"? 10 points if your pick is the partner of the person who states the title.
Bill 10 points
Cathi 25 points

2. 5 Points - Do we get new intros?
Yes, for everyone

3. 5 Points - Do we hear how much money teams receive?
Yes, $365 dollars Laurence (2nd episode in a row that we have heard the amount of money, and I think the only episodes we have heard)

4. 15 Points - How much time separates Justin & Jennifer and Jeremy & Sandy in leaving the Pit Stop?
91-120 minutes, 1 hour 53 minutes

5. 5 Points- Does this leg contain a U-Turn?
No

6. 15 Points - Which team is 1st to complete the Roadblock?
Jeremy and Sandy



7. 15 Points - Which teams gains the most positions performing the Roadblock?
More then one team, Andy & Tommy and Ernie & Cindy both gain a spot

8. 15 Points - Which team is first to complete the Detour?
Jeremy and Sandy

9. 15 Points - Which team gains the most positions in performing the Detour?
Ernie and Cindy, from start if Detour of Detour task to end 6th to 4th


10. 5 Points - is carrying the bed frames?
An active Route Marker

11. 5 Points - Are the teams carrying beds that they will be using at the Pit Stop?
Yes

12. 15 Points - What team loses the most positions in carrying the bed frames?
More then one team, Justin & Jennifer and Jeremy & Sandy each lose one spot

13. 5 Points - What place do Amani and Marcus check into the Pit Stop?
7, 7th

14. 5 Points - What position do Bill and Cathi check into the Pit Stop?
5-6, 6th


15. 5 Points - What position do Ernie and Cindy check into the Pit Stop?
5-6, 5th

16. 5 Points - What position do Justin and Jennifer check into the Pit Stop?
1-2, 2nd

17. 5 Points - What position do Andy and Tommy check into the Pit Stop?
1-2, 1st

18. 5 Points - What position does Laurence and Zac check into the Pit Stop?
3-4, 4th


19. 5 Points - What position does Jeremy and Sandy check into the Pit Stop?
3-4, 3rd


20. 15 Points - Which team is eliminated?
Non elimination

21. 15 Points - Which team gets U-Turned?
There isnt any U-Turns in this episode

22. 5 Points - Do any teams get a penalty?
Yes

23. 10 Bonus Points- Which makes you more uncomfortable?
A team talking about a religion that goes against the racers religious beliefs
A racer blaming their partner for a mistake they were the ones to make

[georgiapeach]

Do you mean the go pay your driver thing??

No penalties I don't think....as in no one had to go sit aside at the mat and wait out a 20-30 min penalty.

Going back to pay your driver isn't a penalty, they all know it is an established EXPECTATION.

Unless I am totally blocking something else,

[mswood]

Thats one of four things.  And I really need to see if that came up in any other episode this season when a team had to go back and do anything.

[ovalorange]

12. 15 Points - What team loses the most positions in carrying the bed frames?
More then one team, Justin & Jennifer and Jeremy & Sandy each lose one spot

Okay, I've gone back and relooked at this one. I don't get it. To me, the term carrying refers to teams actually lifting and walking the beds, so I'm using the placement of teams when they reach the sign telling them that the vehicles must stop.  Justin & Jennifer arrive first, Jeremy & Sandi 2nd and Bill & Cathi in 4th ( if you watch closely we see them start carrying the beds themselves before Ernie & Cindy, so that makes them start in 4th). Both Justin & Jennifer and Bill & Cathi go back to pay their truck driver. You're saying Justin & Jennifer lose one spot, which must mean you're including them having to pay their truck driver. But if you're counting Justin & Jennifer being turned back and having to pay their truck driver then wouldn't the answer be Bill and Cathi then? They lost two spots as opposed to Justin & Jennifer losing one for this.

Ultimately, I think that paying their driver shouldn't be counted as part of the task. The task was to carry the bed to the pitstop and that's exactly what those two teams did, regardless of whether they paid their driver. Thus I believe Justin & Jennifer finished in the same position and Bill & Cathi climbed one place. If this is the case, then I think by your notes that the answer should be Jeremy & Sandy, but in either case "More than one team" isn't the right answer. But jsyk, I actually think Ernie and Cindy get passed by both Laurence & Zac and Bill & Cathi, which makes them lose the most places if you include the money problems.

Okay, so in summary I think there's two ways you can look at this:

Money problems counted in task  - Bill & Cathi, if you watch closely we see them start carrying the beds themselves before Ernie & Cindy, so that makes them start in 4th. They then drop to sixth because of the money, two places.

Money problems not counted in task  - Ernie & Cindy, passed by Laurence & Zac and Bill & Cathi, a drop of two places.

[mswood]

That's another one, there are three ways of looking at it, I did the broadest.

1.  That's from them starting the task, where we do see them having to lift the frames into trucks to completion of the full task, including paying for said transport to carry the beds.

2.  Counting again from the start of them moving the bed to the end end point, and not considering paying their fair.

3.  Counting only the last stage of moving the beds ( the long walk) to dropping the beds off.

I am not really leaning to the third option as teams both physically and through transportation carry the beds earlier than that.

[ovalorange]

I'll agree, that the task did start at the furniture shop, I was just going off the term carry and agree with you that teams did carry the beds into the trucks. But I don't think the money was part of the task, the task was to carry and transport the beds to the mat. Justin & Jennifer and Bill & Cathi did this - it's not like they completed the task incorrectly, they just failed to pay their driver which to me isn't part of carrying the beds, just a general part of the race.

[Jobby]

I'll agree, that the task did start at the furniture shop, I was just going off the term carry and agree with you that teams did carry the beds into the trucks. But I don't think the money was part of the task, the task was to carry and transport the beds to the mat. Justin & Jennifer and Bill & Cathi did this - it's not like they completed the task incorrectly, they just failed to pay their driver which to me isn't part of carrying the beds, just a general part of the race.

They didn't do it correctly, so they cannot check-in. Because they did not "finish the task" correctly, they're denied to check-in... so I'm leaning more to mswood's analysis.

[mswood]

Leg 5 results

1.   kiki
220

2.   Prama
190

3.   ovalorange
190

4.   mswood
180

5.   joab
175

6.   Polaroid
160

7.   serendipity
160

8.   Caelestor
155

9.   MamaT
150
10.   north09
145

11.   zacz
135

12.   Prophet
135

13.   flamant777
125

14.   zvarri
125

15.   gator27
125

16.   walkingpneumonia
105

17.   calphin
75

[mswood]

OVERALL LEADER BOARD RESULTS

THROUGH WEEK 5


1.   kiki
715 + 1 (LIEK YOU NEED IT) = 716

2.   ovalorange
660 + 2 = 662

3.   mswood
640

4.   MamaT
610

5.   Polaroid
585

6.   serendipity
575

7.   north09
555

8.   Prama
555

9.   joab
540

10.   gator27
535

11.   zacz
520

12.   Prophet
505

13.   Caelestor
495

14.   JackieKC
460

15.   zvarri
415

16.   flamant777
390

17.   walkingpneumonia
320

18.   calphin
245

19.   PeeT_Pm52
120

20.   redwings8831
100

21.   loverocked
95

22.   homingyip
90

23.   Kandace
85

24.   dom el
75

25.   aussieboi
75

26.   Coutzy
70

KIWI JAY 125 POINTS.

[mswood]

I'll agree, that the task did start at the furniture shop, I was just going off the term carry and agree with you that teams did carry the beds into the trucks. But I don't think the money was part of the task, the task was to carry and transport the beds to the mat. Justin & Jennifer and Bill & Cathi did this - it's not like they completed the task incorrectly, they just failed to pay their driver which to me isn't part of carrying the beds, just a general part of the race.

Ovalrange

I am sticking with my original post starting with getting beds, and successfully completing that general task (which includes settling any debt you incur).

I would love not to as I certainly didn't pick more then one team, for any answer where it applied.  But  the race itself does tend to count settling debts as part of successfully completely whatever task they incur debts in.

[mswood]

WEEK 6 RESULTS


1.   JackieKC  (Great Job Jackie!!)
130

2.   Prama   
120

3.   kiki  (Kiki sure wants to win..... )
115

4.   calphin
110

5.   gator27
105

6.   Polaroid
105

7.   Prophet
100

8.   serendipity
100

9.   mswood
95

10.   Caelestor
95

11.   north09
85

12.   zvarri
85

13.   joab
85

14.   ovalorange
75

15.   loverocked
75

16.   flamant777
65

17.   MamaT
55

[mswood]

OVERALL LEADER BOARD RESULTS
WEEKS 1 - 6


And still kicking our collective asses ..........


Is.......


1.   kiki   
825 +1 = 826




2.   ovalorange
730 + 2 (Damn those points) = 732

3.   mswood
730

4.   Polaroid
685

5.   Prama
670

6.   serendipity
670

7.   MamaT
660

8.   north09
635

9.   gator27
635

10.   joab
620

11.   Prophet
600

12.   Caelestor
585

13.   JackieKC
585

14.   zacz
520

15.   zvarri
495

16.   flamant777
450

17.   calphin
350

18.   walkingpneumonia
320

19.   loverocked
165

20.   PeeT_Pm52
120

21.   redwings8831
100

22.   homingyip
90

23.   Kandace
85

24.   dom el
75

25.   aussieboi
75

26.   Coutzy
70

125 KIWI JAY

28.  Georgia Peach
+1 Bonus POint for correction = 1.

See your always number one in my book.

[mswood]

NOTE:  I Want to apologize for this year's game.  I am just starting my sixth week of working 6 to 7 days a week and usually 10 hours a day.

I have been so tired, I haven't been able to do this game like I would like, and it really hasn't been fair to you guys and gals.

Questions for Week 7 will be up tomorrow morning (or noonish for the East coast of the US.

This week also (for most of the US) features Daylights Savings Time, and we will fall back (Thank GOD another Hours Sleep!!!!!!!).  I don't remember how the game clock handles this, but to manage it, I will be watching the game to make sure it closes when it should.