Topic: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 33)

[BourkieBoy]

This is great!

Thank you theschnauzers!

[theschnauzers]

I will be doing the rankings for season 31. All teams will be ranked separately from any earlier appearances in earlier season.
Probably will begin after the second or third leg airs.

[theschnauzers]

Depending on when we reach six eliminations, I will most likely start the final placement range calculations I usually do in this thread for the than remaining teams.

[theschnauzers]

Master list updated in first post.

[georgiapeach]

Can't wait for the TAR 32 results!

[theschnauzers]

I know, right?

[theschnauzers]

And we're back!

And has been the case, I will post a leg by leg leaderboad in the other thread. The one which has each season;s results in average placement order
I hope to start a trend analysis in  couple of lleg, and a final three placement range at some point after that, oth in the other thread.

[TARstorian]

Michael has a spreadsheet where all of the teams from international versions are included too. It's always funny to hear a team is ranked 327th or 588th when they are eliminated in the first few rounds of play.

[theschnauzers]

I don’t do the international versions because I haven’t seen more than a handful of them over the past two decades. I’ll stick with the mothership, thank you very much. I will post episode three later tonight (it’s ready, but I’ve been busy), and then episode 4. With the delay to episode 5, if I get enough energy, I’ll start posting the placement trend analysis.
I may reformat that to make it easier to refresh week by week.

[theschnauzers]

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1 2 3
Hung & Chee 1 1 2 4/3 1.3333 Hung 1, Chee 1
Riley & Maddison 3 3 4 10/3 3.3333 Riley 1, Maddison 1
Will & James 4 6 1 11/3 3.6666 Will 2, James 0
Michelle & Victoria 2 5 7 14/3 4.6666 Michelle 1, Victoria 1
Eswar & Aparna 7 4 6 17/3 5.6666 Eswar 1, Aparna 1
DeAngelo & Gary 10 2 5 17/3 5.6666 DeAngelo 1, Gary 1
Kaylynn & Haley 8 8 3 19/3 6.3333 Kaylynn 1, Haley1
Leo & Alana 6 7 8 21/3 6.5000 Leo 1, Alana 1

Jerry & Frank 5 9 9 23/3 7.6666 Jerry1, Frank 2
Kellie & LaVonne 9 10 19/2 9.5000 Kellie 1 LaVonne 1
Nathan & Cody 11 11/1    11.0000 Nathan 0, Cody 1



[theschnauzers]

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1 2 3 4

Hung & Chee 1 1 2 6 10/4 1.5000 Hung 1, Chee 2
Will & James 4 6 1 1 12/4 3.0000 Will 2, James 1
Riley & Maddison 3 3 4 4 14/4 3.5000 Riley 1, Maddison 2
Michelle & Victoria 2 5 7 2 16/4 4.0000 Michelle 2, Victoria 1
Eswar & Aparna 7 4 6 5 22/4 5.5000 Eswar 2, Aparna 1
DeAngelo & Gary 10 2 5 7 24/4 6.0000 DeAngelo 2, Gary 1
Leo & Alana 6 7 8 3 24/4 6.0000 Leo 2, Alana 1
Kaylynn & Haley 8 8 3 8 27/4 6.7500 Kaylynn 2, Haley 1

Jerry & Frank 5 9 9 23/3 7.6666 Jerry1, Frank 2
Kellie & LaVonne 9 10 19/2 9.5000 Kellie 1 LaVonne 1
Nathan & Cody 11 11/1    11.0000 Nathan 0, Cody 1




[theschnauzers]

Leg 5:

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1 2 3 4 5

Hung & Chee 1 1 2 6 2 12/5 1.4000 Hung 2, Chee 3
Riley & Maddison 3 3 4 4 1 15/5 3.0000 Riley 2, Maddison 3
Will & James 4 6 1 1 4 16/5 3.2000 Will 3, James 2
Leo & Alana 6 7 8 3 3 27/5 5.4000 Leo 3, Alana 2
Eswar & Aparna 7 4 6 5 6 28/5 5.6000 Eswar 3, Aparna 2
DeAngelo & Gary 10 2 5 7 5 29/5 5.8000 DeAngelo 3, Gary 2
Kaylynn & Haley 8 8 3 8 7 34/5 6.8000 Kaylynn 3, Haley 2

Michelle & Victoria 2 5 7 2 8 24/5 4.8000 Michelle 3, Victoria 2
Jerry & Frank 5 9 9 23/3 7.6666 Jerry1, Frank 2
Kellie & LaVonne 9 10 19/2 9.5000 Kellie 1 LaVonne 1
Nathan & Cody 11 11/1    11.0000 Nathan 0, Cody 1



[theschnauzers]

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Leg 6

1 2 3 4 5 6

Hung & Chee 1 1 2 6 2 3 15/6 2.5000 Hung 3, Chee 3
Riley & Maddison 3 3 4 4 1 2 17/6 2.8333 Riley 2, Maddison 4
Will & James 4 6 1 1 4 4 20/6 3.3333 Will 4, James 2
DeAngelo & Gary 10 2 5 7 5 1 30/6 5.0000 DeAngelo 3, Gary 3
Eswar & Aparna 7 4 6 5 6 5 33/6 5.3000 Eswar 3, Aparna 3
Leo & Alana 6 7 8 3 3 6 33/6 5.5000 Leo 4, Alana 2
Kaylynn & Haley 8 8 3 8 7 7 41/6 6.8333 Kaylynn 3, Haley 3

Michelle & Victoria 2 5 7 2 8 24/5 4.8000 Michelle 3, Victoria 2
Jerry & Frank 5 9 9 23/3 7.6666 Jerry1, Frank 2
Kellie & LaVonne 9 10 19/2 9.5000 Kellie 1 LaVonne 1
Nathan & Cody 11 11/1 11.0000 Nathan 0, Cody 1


[theschnauzers]

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Leg 7
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 () 8 9 10 11

Hung & Chee 1 1 2 6 2 3 3 18/7 2.5714 Hung 3, Chee 3
Riley & Maddison 3 3 4 4 1 2 2 19/7 2.7142 Riley 2, Maddison 4
Will & James 4 6 1 1 4 4 1 21/7 3.0000 Will 4, James 2
DeAngelo & Gary 10 2 5 7 5 1 4 34/7 4.8571 DeAngelo 3, Gary 3
Eswar & Aparna 7 4 6 5 6 5 6 39/7 5.5714 Eswar 3, Aparna 3
Kaylynn & Haley 8 8 3 8 7 7 5 46/7 6.5714 Kaylynn 3, Haley 3

Leo & Alana 6 7 8 3 3 6 7 40/7 5.7142 Leo 4, Alana 2
Michelle & Victoria 2 5 7 2 8 24/5 4.8000 Michelle 3, Victoria 2
Jerry & Frank 5 9 9 23/3 7.6666 Jerry1, Frank 2
Kellie & LaVonne 9 10 19/2 9.5000 Kellie 1 LaVonne 1
Nathan & Cody 11 11/1    11.0000 Nathan 0, Cody 1

() refers to the midleg placement in the megaleg, shown in episodes 8 and 9



[theschnauzers]

This post covers the team placement for the Megaleg (leg 8 ). Like other double length legs of past seasons, THE LEG IS TREATED FOR PLACEMENT PURPOSES AS 2 LEGS, AND FOR PLACEMENT PURPOSES, THE SEASON IS TREATED AS HAVING 12 LEG SEGMENTS.

While there are two possible midpoints that could be used, that is inconsequential as teams arrived at either point in the same order.

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Leg 8 midpoint
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 () 8 9 10 11

Hung & Chee 1 1 2 6 2 3 3 4 22/8 2.7500 Hung 3, Chee 4
Riley & Maddison 3 3 4 4 1 2 2 1 20/8 2.5000 Riley 4, Maddison 3
Will & James 4 6 1 1 4 4 1 3 24/8 3.0000 Will 4, James 3
DeAngelo & Gary 10 2 5 7 5 1 4 2 36/8 4.5000 DeAngelo 3, Gary 4
Eswar & Aparna 7 4 6 5 6 5 6 5 44/8 5.5000 Eswar 4, Aparna 3
Kaylynn & Haley 8 8 3 8 7 7 5 6 52/8 6.5000 Kaylynn 4, Haley 3

Leo & Alana 6 7 8 3 3 6 7 40/7 5.7142 Leo 4, Alana 2
Michelle & Victoria 2 5 7 2 8 24/5 4.8000 Michelle 3, Victoria 2
Jerry & Frank 5 9 9 23/3 7.6666 Jerry1, Frank 2
Kellie & LaVonne 9 10 19/2 9.5000 Kellie 1 LaVonne 1
Nathan & Cody 11 11/1    11.0000 Nathan 0, Cody 1

() refers to the midleg placement in the megaleg, shown in episodes 8 and 9.
The midpoint of the Megaleg, leg 8, was either at the end of the first roadblock,
or the location of the immediately following route marker, the Charminari in Hyderabad.


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Leg 8 Complete
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 () 8 9 10 11

Riley & Maddison 3 3 4 4 1 2 2 1 1 21/9 2.3333 Riley 4, Maddison 4
Hung & Chee 1 1 2 6 2 3 3 4 4 26/9 2.8888 Hung 4, Chee 4
lWill & James 4 6 1 1 4 4 1 3 2 26/9 2.8888 Will 4, James 4
DeAngelo & Gary 10 2 5 7 5 1 4 2 3 39/9 4.3333 DeAngelo 4, Gary 4
Eswar & Aparna 7 4 6 5 6 5 6 5 5 49/9 5.4444 Eswar 4, Aparna 4


Kaylynn & Haley 8 8 3 8 7 7 5 6 6 58/9 6.4444 Kaylynn 4, Haley 4
Leo & Alana 6 7 8 3 3 6 7 40/7 5.7142 Leo 4, Alana 2
Michelle & Victoria 2 5 7 2 8 24/5 4.8000 Michelle 3, Victoria 2
Jerry & Frank 5 9 9 23/3 7.6666 Jerry1, Frank 2
Kellie & LaVonne 9 10 19/2 9.5000 Kellie 1 LaVonne 1
Nathan & Cody 11 11/1    11.0000 Nathan 0, Cody 1

() refers to the midleg placement in the megaleg, shown in episodes 8 and 9.
The midpoint of the Megaleg, leg 8, was either at the end of the first roadblock,
or the location of the immediately following route marker, the Charminari in Hyderabad.


[theschnauzers]

Leg 9 (Episode 10)

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Leg 9
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 () 8 9 10 11

Riley & Maddison 3 3 4 4 1 2 2 1 1 1 22/10 2.2999 Riley 5, Maddison 4
lWill & James 4 6 1 1 4 4 1 3 2 2 28/10 2.8000 Will 5, James 4
Hung & Chee 1 1 2 6 2 3 3 4 4 3 29/10 2.9000 Hung 4, Chee 5
DeAngelo & Gary 10 2 5 7 5 1 4 2 3 4 43/10 4.3000 DeAngelo 5, Gary 4


Eswar & Aparna 7 4 6 5 6 5 6 5 5 5 54/10  5.4000 Eswar 5, Aparna 4
Kaylynn & Haley 8 8 3 8 7 7 5 6 6 58/9 6.4444 Kaylynn 4, Haley 4
Leo & Alana 6 7 8 3 3 6 7 40/7 5.7142 Leo 4, Alana 2
Michelle & Victoria 2 5 7 2 8 24/5 4.8000 Michelle 3, Victoria 2
Jerry & Frank 5 9 9 23/3 7.6666 Jerry1, Frank 2
Kellie & LaVonne 9 10 19/2 9.5000 Kellie 1 LaVonne 1
Nathan & Cody 11 11/1    11.0000 Nathan 0, Cody 1

() refers to the midleg placement in the megaleg, shown in episodes 8 and 9.The midpoint of the Megaleg, leg 8, was either at the end of the first roadblock, or the location of the immediately following route markerr, the Charminari in Hyderabad.




[theschnauzers]

Leg 10

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Leg 10
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 () 8 9 10 11

Riley & Maddison 3 3 4 4 1 2 2 1 1 1 1 23/11 2.0909 Riley 5, Maddison 4
Will & James 4 6 1 1 4 4 1 3 2 2 2 30/11 2.7272 Will 5, James 4
Hung & Chee 1 1 2 6 2 3 3 4 4 3 3 32/11 2.9090 Hung 4, Chee 5


DeAngelo & Gary 10 2 5 7 5 1 4 2 3 4 4 47/11 4.2727 DeAngelo 5, Gary 4
Eswar & Aparna 7 4 6 5 6 5 6 5 5 5 54/10 5.4000 Eswar 5, Aparna 4
Kaylynn & Haley 8 8 3 8 7 7 5 6 6 58/9 6.4444 Kaylynn 4, Haley 4
Leo & Alana 6 7 8 3 3 6 7 40/7 5.7142 Leo 4, Alana 2
Michelle & Victoria 2 5 7 2 8 24/5 4.8000 Michelle 3, Victoria 2
Jerry & Frank 5 9 9 23/3 7.6666 Jerry1, Frank 2
Kellie & LaVonne 9 10 19/2 9.5000 Kellie 1 LaVonne 1
Nathan & Cody 11 11/1    11.0000 Nathan 0, Cody 1

() refers to the midleg placement in the megaleg, shown in episodes 8 and 9.The midpoint of the Megaleg, leg 8, was either at the end of the first roadblock, or the location of the immediately following route markerr, the Charminari in Hyderabad.


[elthemagnifico]

wow the beard bros got 2.09 atm. top 5 TAR racers of all time?

[stunami]

But should the halfway point in the megaleg count?

[theschnauzers]

But should the halfway point in the megaleg count?

They’ve been counted in every previous season where a leg consisted of two leg segments. The way the Megaleg was structured was indistinguishable from some of those early season double legs legs, which I labeled as “uberlegs” back then. Even the lack of a midpoint mat or of Phil doesn’t change that.

[theschnauzers]

wow the beard bros got 2.09 atm. top 5 TAR racers of all time?

Still depends on the final leg results. But no matter what it is, the placement average for all three teams will be between 2.0000 and 2.9999, an objective Indication that all three teams were equally strong teams over the overall course of the Race and should have been the final three teams. You can also tell by the calculated averages which teams should have left sooner and which left too soon.

[cbacbacba1]

wow the beard bros got 2.09 atm. top 5 TAR racers of all time?

Still depends on the final leg results. But no matter what it is, the placement average for all three teams will be between 2.0000 and 2.9999, an objective Indication that all three teams were equally strong teams over the overall course of the Race and should have been the final three teams. You can also tell by the calculated averages which teams should have left sooner and which left too soon.

This is only the second time for the final 3 teams having racing average of below 3, after TAR 1! This shows the 3 teams are indeed strong teams even without the alliance thing. So why are they obsessed with the alliance thing 

[theschnauzers]

wow the beard bros got 2.09 atm. top 5 TAR racers of all time?

Still depends on the final leg results. But no matter what it is, the placement average for all three teams will be between 2.0000 and 2.9999, an objective indication that all three teams were equally strong teams over the overall course of the Race and should have been the final three teams. You can also tell by the calculated averages which teams should have left sooner and which left too soon.

This is only the second time for the final 3 teams having racing average of below 3, after TAR 1! This shows the 3 teams are indeed strong teams even without the alliance thing. So why are they obsessed with the alliance thing 

You are correct about the TAR 1 teams being the first final three to average a below 3.0000 placement average. And TAR 32 being the second, regardless of the order of finish in the finale. I had to go back and double check the overall season by season list in the other thread for myself.

[theschnauzers]

This is the final leaderboard for season 32. The raw data here will be incorporated into the first posts of both Ranking the Teams threads soon.

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Final
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Will & James 4 6 1 1 4 4 1 3 2 2 2 1 31/12 2.5833 Will 6, James 5
Hung & Chee 1 1 2 6 2 3 3 4 4 3 3 2 34/12 2.8333 Hung 5, Chee 6
Riley & Maddison 3 3 4 4 1 2 2 1 1 1 1 3 26/12 2.1666 Riley 6, Maddison 5

DeAngelo & Gary 10 2 5 7 5 1 4 2 3 4 4 47/11 4.2727 DeAngelo 5, Gary 4
Eswar & Aparna 7 4 6 5 6 5 6 5 5 5 54/10  5.4000 Eswar 5, Aparna 4
Kaylynn & Haley 8 8 3 8 7 7 5 6 6 58/9 6.4444 Kaylynn 4, Haley 4
Leo & Alana 6 7 8 3 3 6 7 40/7 5.7142 Leo 4, Alana 2
Michelle & Victoria 2 5 7 2 8 24/5 4.8000 Michelle 3, Victoria 2
Jerry & Frank 5 9 9 23/3 7.6666 Jerry1, Frank 2
Kellie & LaVonne 9 10 19/2 9.5000 Kellie 1 LaVonne 1
Nathan & Cody 11 11/1    11.0000 Nathan 0, Cody 1

() refers to the midleg placement in the megaleg, shown in episodes 8 and 9.The midpoint of the Megaleg, leg 8, was either at the end of the first roadblock, or the location of the immediately following route markerr, the Charminari in Hyderabad.



[theschnauzers]

For comparison with season 1, since the question was brought up:

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Rob-Brennan        1   3   3   6   4   3   3   3   1   1   2   1   1   32/13   2.4615
Frank-Margarita    3   4   2   4   5   1   1   2   2   2   1   2   2   31/13   2.3846
Joe-Bill           2   2   4   1   2   2   2   4   4   4   3   3   3   36/13   2.7692