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Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
« Reply #300 on: April 18, 2007, 02:30:19 PM »
 :'( Alright Peach!

Damn, I wish I knew how to get inside some of the buildings around the garden so I could see if this is where the maybe pit stop might be!

There's something called Qingcao Hall (Green Grass Hall), but I can't find any photos of the outside, or the inside!  :groan:
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Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
« Reply #301 on: April 18, 2007, 02:31:35 PM »
It is gone :'( :'( :'(

But I'm doing it again--who needs a life?! :lol:
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Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
« Reply #302 on: April 18, 2007, 02:52:48 PM »
:'( Alright Peach!

Damn, I wish I knew how to get inside some of the buildings around the garden so I could see if this is where the maybe pit stop might be!

There's something called Qingcao Hall (Green Grass Hall), but I can't find any photos of the outside, or the inside!  :groan:

That looks like a great possibility for the pit stop. That is "IF" this isn't a TBC  ;D :lol: :rotf:

Aww peach that sucks so bad.  (:;)

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Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
« Reply #303 on: April 18, 2007, 03:06:17 PM »
:js:  The "wavy" street decorations are not too common in Macau (as far as I can see from GE).  It occurs in a few places.  Kinda matches the cobblestone decorations that C/M are standing on.  Can't pin it down just yet, but Macau isn't that big.   ;)

When I saw this picture I giggled thinking I could just hear Charla singing ........

Follow the yellow brick road. Follow the yellow brick road.
Follow follow, follow, follow, follow the yellow brick road.
Follow the yellow brick, follow the yellow brick, follow the yellow brick road.
We're off to see the Philster the wonderful Philster of allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll


Sorry, couldn't resist and I'm bored. :lol: Now you know you were singing along.  :rotf:

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« Reply #304 on: April 18, 2007, 03:16:02 PM »
:js:  The "wavy" street decorations are not too common in Macau (as far as I can see from GE).  It occurs in a few places.  Kinda matches the cobblestone decorations that C/M are standing on.  Can't pin it down just yet, but Macau isn't that big.   ;)

When I saw this picture I giggled thinking I could just hear Charla singing ........

Follow the yellow brick road. Follow the yellow brick road.
Follow follow, follow, follow, follow the yellow brick road.
Follow the yellow brick, follow the yellow brick, follow the yellow brick road.
We're off to see the Philster the wonderful Philster of allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll


Sorry, couldn't resist and I'm bored. :lol: Now you know you were singing along.  :rotf:
Now my stomach hurts  :spitcoffee:  :lol3:


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Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
« Reply #305 on: April 18, 2007, 03:21:53 PM »
:'( Alright Peach!

Damn, I wish I knew how to get inside some of the buildings around the garden so I could see if this is where the maybe pit stop might be!

There's something called Qingcao Hall (Green Grass Hall), but I can't find any photos of the outside, or the inside!  :groan:

A wealthy merchant, Lou Kau, built it. His son Lou Lim lok inherited the garden from him in 1906. The family fortunes declined and in 1938 some houses in this garden were sold and converted into a school, which still stands today. In the 1970's, the government took over the park, renovated it, and opened it to be enjoyed by the public.

Surrounded by high walls, this garden is a landscape with narrow paths winding through groves of bamboo and flowering bushes. A small pond is at the center of this garden, straddled by an elegant nine-turn bridge leading to a large pavilion built in the pseudo-Victorian style of the Qing dynasty. Visitors standing on the verandah can see a rock, which is said to look like Kun Iam, Goddess of Mercy. There are frequent art and craft exhibitions in the pavilion, which is also a recital hall during the annual International Music Festival.

Qingcao Hall (Green Grass Hall) is the garden's most famous structure. The exterior is in traditional Chinese style, but the interior decorations are typical western. The outer wall is painted in beige, a color with Portuguese flair, while the corridor pillars are of unique Gothic style. On Sun Yat-sen's 1915 second visit to Macau, he stayed in this hall and gave audience to Macau's rich and famous.

This unique garden, in 1992 was named as one of the "Eight Scenes in Macau".

http://www.uvista.com/en/macau/lou-lim-lok-garden.htm

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Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
« Reply #306 on: April 18, 2007, 03:23:42 PM »
ahh that's the only thing I could find as well puddin!  :groan: Well, I gave up searching, but I was searching at school and half the sites I clicked were blocked by the administrator, so I could have missed something. I think the confessional looks like a hotel room.

I hope they send out Phil's preview this week  :knuckles:

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Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
« Reply #307 on: April 18, 2007, 03:33:43 PM »
I'm fairly certain that this is Lou Lim Ieoc Garden on GE.



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Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
« Reply #308 on: April 18, 2007, 03:34:42 PM »
Don't you hate coming to the party late? :lol:

All was fully discussed on page 8!

But don't worry--I was really excited to finally see some DRAMA! too.... ;)
m sorry..

IM new to RFF and i am not used to keeping up with alll the reading and stuff... Im not as experienced as you guys. I thought i had made good work but u guys let me down... Ohhhh wellllll...
Lol yea I don't always read everything or am EVER able to find spoiler pics-- I just don't have any time. But I am a BQ fan too! lol and Puddin I totally agree with your scenario.

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Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
« Reply #309 on: April 18, 2007, 04:01:34 PM »
I think the confessional looks like a hotel room.

My first thought when I saw the BQ's confessional was "I've seen that hotel room before".  I was thinking Mirna had a confessional from a similar looking hotel in one of the South American legs (real specific I know). :groan:


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Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
« Reply #310 on: April 18, 2007, 04:05:08 PM »
I know what you are talking about, and I remember Charla is wearing the exact same shirt!

Oh, close, but I don't think it's a match...you can see the SA sceneary in the BG

http://www.gofish.com/player.gfp?gfid=30-1087773
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Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
« Reply #311 on: April 18, 2007, 04:13:36 PM »
I know what you are talking about, and I remember Charla is wearing the exact same shirt!

Oh, close, but I don't think it's a match...you can see the SA sceneary in the BG

http://www.gofish.com/player.gfp?gfid=30-1087773

I think that WAS the room.  Thanks D.

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Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
« Reply #312 on: April 18, 2007, 04:45:44 PM »
We'll try this again...

This is my take on what we know/don't know so far about this week.
Frank speculation is in red. Blue is where I hope puddin will attach a pretty pic. :lol:

Preview 1 and 2 here .


The big debate seems to whether this is a TBC or a not TBC...
And I'm happy to report that we all seem in perfect agreement that it is either a TBC or....a NEL.....or an Elim....or a BVM surprise! :happy:

If the BQ confessional is from a future episode as seems likely, then that removes my only objection to this being a TBC.
And if the Cha's confessional is in Guam as seems likely, then there are no confessionals for this episode which makes a TBC even more possible.


Teams depart the Hong Kong Jockey Club on Dec 13th after a 12 hour pitstop, leaving possibly between about 3-7 AM?? (see mswood's Timeline here)

They are directed to go to Macau, a former Portuguese territory.

They go to the Hong-Kong to Macau TurboJet ferry terminal at Sheung wan. (Boingo's nice GE map here?)

Ferries depart at 0130, 0200, 0400, 0445, 0600, 0700, 0730, 0800 and then every 15 minutes until 1800, and take approximately 55 minutes. It costs HK$138 (=$17.68) after 0700 and HK$172 (=$22) before 0700 (Hmmm....maybe this is where O/D lose their lead?).

(We know what the two Detours and the Roadblock are, we know they rent a kiddie car, we know they go to Lou Lim Ieoc Gardens. We don't know which order things occur in for sure, and we don't know that the Garden is for sure the site of the Pitstop/TBC Mat stop--so take the rest with a little salt.)

The teams find their cluebox at the Ferry Terminal in Macau and choose between two Detours, each with their own pros and cons. (Don't you miss that?*sigh*)


At some point, teams collect their own kiddie bumper car and drive themselves to their tasks. I think that is now and may provide a little H of Op. Ch/M take the bumper car part a little too literally, which may explain how they fall behind.

Row it or Roll it? (titles mine)

O/D choose Row it and fetch and carry a ceremonial drum   along the waterfront near Neobie's Macao-Taipei Bridge to a Macau Dragon Boat where they row to I don't know where.
This task in hindsight proves to lead to a costly time delay.


The other teams all choose Roll it and proceed to Hakushu8's bamboo pole Noodle workshop, where they roll out handmade noodles. And we won't even go there about riding that pole!

Timeshots during this task put Eric there about 5:30 and Ch/M there about 7:05 (AM presumed). (To be further determined)


Teams eventually drive themselves to the Roadblock, which occurs at Slowhatch's
 Macau Tower
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(Order of arrival, conversations, deals etc. are educated speculation--you have been warned! :lol:)

The Roadblock, which one member of each team performs, is the Skywalk and the SkyJump and who knows maybe they throw in the Bungy and the Mast Climb too! (I'm so glad to finally see an AllStar worthy task that I would keep them up there all day!)

We see Charla performing this task for her team.

Now, it appears that E/D and the BQ's arrive at the tower  (BQ's first?) close to each other, where they find a Yield. Since E/D need to arrive at the Mat first, I believe that the BQ's negotiate with E/D to NOT Yield them, but rather a team further behind (O/D) in exchange for allowing E/D to reach the mat in first place. Is this why we see Dustin praying? They would be relying on E/D's honor to not yield them after all.

(And while this may be a wise move by the BQ's at this moment, I think you can say that this moment is also where they lose the race to E/D.  :o)
Now WHY O WHY do they choose O/D instead of Ch/M??   :'( You must decide....


 


Ch/M being a later arrival to the tower (too much time gambling in the Casinos :lol:), make a generous offer of some of their homemade noodles to O/D (really maybe $$)...

All teams then drive themselves in the bumper cars to schwartzmoor's Lou Lim Ieoc Garden where Dee takes a nosedive. This is the Pit-Matstop for the race.


Order of arrival:

E/D who escape the marked for elimination penalty.
BQ's second
Ch/M third
O/D sadly last and are either marked for elim, elim, or surprised by BVM depending on your POV.

All teams may be TBC'd and keep on racing to Guam.......or not?

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Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
« Reply #313 on: April 18, 2007, 04:53:34 PM »
Peach - Awesome post. Thanks for summarizing things.

I still think the shot of the BQs is from the end of Macau...and I'm still not 100% about what the deal might be. Why would Eric accept that BQ deal, that would make them seem kind of pathetic, because they would be worried to losing to "two queens" who have to wait 30 minutes! It's all very strange.


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« Reply #314 on: April 18, 2007, 04:58:22 PM »
Well--this is just a start--feel free to chime in as the week provides new info and either puddin or I can edit it....

mswood--HOW do you do this every week?? I'm in awe! I'm a wreck just doing the "what we know by Wednesday" stuff!
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Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
« Reply #315 on: April 18, 2007, 05:49:22 PM »
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Timeshots  during this task put Eric there about 5:30 and Ch/M there about 7:05 (AM presumed).

Would it really be that bright at 5 30 in the morning in December?

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(And while this may be a wise move by the BQ's at this moment, I think you can say that this moment is also where they lose the race to E/D.  )

Pft. We shall see about that!

Peach and Puddin, THANK YOU for putting that together, it really summarizes everything we've talked about and will make it easier to look up what we need. You guys both rock, a lot!  :jumpy:
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« Reply #316 on: April 18, 2007, 05:55:49 PM »
Ooh, pretty puddin!

Thanks a lot!
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« Reply #317 on: April 18, 2007, 06:12:52 PM »
AWESOME!!!! You guys should do this every week!!!

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« Reply #318 on: April 18, 2007, 06:13:59 PM »
Ha. This is my 100th post!!!!! :wohoo: lol

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Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
« Reply #319 on: April 18, 2007, 06:28:27 PM »
You know, we haven't mentioned this guy--wonder if they'll be rick-shawing around somewhere?

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Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
« Reply #320 on: April 18, 2007, 06:32:22 PM »
Peach - Awesome post. Thanks for summarizing things.

I still think the shot of the BQs is from the end of Macau...and I'm still not 100% about what the deal might be. Why would Eric accept that BQ deal, that would make them seem kind of pathetic, because they would be worried to losing to "two queens" who have to wait 30 minutes! It's all very strange.



 :hides Not to start anything but a quick look at clothing shows that M/C first wore those clothes in Episode 7. The preview makes it look like the confessional was right after Romber left but it wasn't. It appears the BQ's are wearing the same light blue jackets in Episode 7. A cowinkedink???  ;D I don't know. I don't have time now to dig out and compare the pictures but it just may be worth looking into.

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Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
« Reply #321 on: April 18, 2007, 06:34:12 PM »
D/K didn't wear the black shirts in episode 7, and I think in the BG of the C/M shot you can tell that it's South America.

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« Reply #322 on: April 18, 2007, 06:34:55 PM »
^^ Why would Dustin be saying "we're going to race like were in last place" in EP7  ;D

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« Reply #323 on: April 18, 2007, 06:40:26 PM »
You know, we haven't mentioned this guy--wonder if they'll be rick-shawing around somewhere?
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Peach, I was thinking about that shot as well! We need to add that into the time line somewhere  :groan:
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Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
« Reply #324 on: April 18, 2007, 06:51:33 PM »
Peach - Awesome post. Thanks for summarizing things.

I still think the shot of the BQs is from the end of Macau...and I'm still not 100% about what the deal might be. Why would Eric accept that BQ deal, that would make them seem kind of pathetic, because they would be worried to losing to "two queens" who have to wait 30 minutes! It's all very strange.



Yes i think Danielle and Eric having a deal [though seems likly] is stupis and makes them look like hypocrites.  The said how the Blondes were phoney and now they are doing the same thing to one of two teams they have a finale three agreement with.  First off we knew the Blondes have to be second the the Yield becuase they cant, so if Eric and Danielle yield the blondes they would still come in first and give the biggest threat a great chance to be eliminated.   If Eric and Danielle dont yield the blondes they just look stupid, they wont get their revenge will give up a better chance at first place, and will still have big competition on the race.  I mean there is no telling what happens later in the leg.  The Blondes and Derik might make a deal but say Deric gets lost with a cab?  That half hour advantage would help them more?