Going off the teams in Contestant Spoilers and checking their social media, it's safe to say Ray & Caro and Connie & Sam are both not in during this restart. The former have been active and I highly doubt Connie would suddenly post she was hiring on Linkedin and Sam would fake Instagram stories for a football game.
So that's two teams not accounted for as well as the other unidentified teams. Everyone else seems to still be back (Arun & Natalia, Akbar & Sheridan, Penn & Kim, Marissa & Marianella, Raquel & Cayla, and even Michael & Moe).
Going off the teams in Contestant Spoilers and checking their social media, it's safe to say Ray & Caro and Connie & Sam are both not in during this restart. The former have been active and I highly doubt Connie would suddenly post she was hiring on Linkedin and Sam would fake Instagram stories for a football game.
So that's two teams not accounted for as well as the other unidentified teams. Everyone else seems to still be back (Arun & Natalia, Akbar & Sheridan, Penn & Kim, Marissa & Marianella, Raquel & Cayla, and even Michael & Moe).
Going off the teams in Contestant Spoilers and checking their social media, it's safe to say Ray & Caro and Connie & Sam are both not in during this restart. The former have been active and I highly doubt Connie would suddenly post she was hiring on Linkedin and Sam would fake Instagram stories for a football game.
So that's two teams not accounted for as well as the other unidentified teams. Everyone else seems to still be back (Arun & Natalia, Akbar & Sheridan, Penn & Kim, Marissa & Marianella, Raquel & Cayla, and even Michael & Moe).
There's not a Contestant ID Thread been re-opened yet?
The team below must be Raquel & Cayla then?
(https://imgur.com/NqNdTQp.jpg)
So we have the following teams unidentified as of yet (assuming they all returned for the Restart)
African American M/M in Dark Blue
Mixed M/M in Red/Blue
Young White M/M
Replacement Team for Ray & Caro
Replacement Team For Connie & Sam
https://twitter.com/elisedoganieri (https://twitter.com/elisedoganieri)
Elise posted video of the emmys last night. Would the race have taken off without her?
https://twitter.com/elisedoganieri
Elise posted video of the emmys last night. Would the race have taken off without her?
Moderator please delete if I am not supposed to make such speculations. Here is where I think the teams might eventually be going, not necessarily in this order: Katoka (Democratic Republic of the Congo), Istanbul, Turkey and Takoradi, Ghana. All I got for these areas is a coworker is from Ghana, so I’m having him reach out to family there for eyes on anything production wise.
https://twitter.com/elisedoganieri
Elise posted video of the emmys last night. Would the race have taken off without her?
I always thought Bertram was with the teams while Elise ran the command center in LA, so it's possible she was at the Emmys. But I could be mistaken as well.
Moderator please delete if I am not supposed to make such speculations. Here is where I think the teams might eventually be going, not necessarily in this order: Katoka (Democratic Republic of the Congo), Istanbul, Turkey and Takoradi, Ghana. All I got for these areas is a coworker is from Ghana, so I’m having him reach out to family there for eyes on anything production wise.
Nothing factual, just wild guess.Moderator please delete if I am not supposed to make such speculations. Here is where I think the teams might eventually be going, not necessarily in this order: Katoka (Democratic Republic of the Congo), Istanbul, Turkey and Takoradi, Ghana. All I got for these areas is a coworker is from Ghana, so I’m having him reach out to family there for eyes on anything production wise.
NO wishlists please.If you have factual info or a based on fact suspicion that a place is going to be visited that's fine. If you have SPECIFIC info notify one of the TAR team. Do NOT post actual places/times in public, you could put our teams at risk.
We need everyone helping. WIth unlikely airport sightings please be checking locations and weird closures.
We need everyone's eyes!
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Nothing factual, just wild guess.
I remember they said that they filmed 3 shows in the UK before the shutdown. So assuming the first leg since the reset was in Switzerland that would put us at leg 4. Are we sure there were legs in the UK this time? I feel like 4-5 legs there is a bit much. Also, I feel like because of COVID we will get less sightings. I bet production has hired drivers for teams and tasks are in closed-off locations. Racing in a public place creates so much more risk for exposure. If it was a reset and those first three UK episodes will be included they probably didn’t have another starting line and just took everyone straight to Switzerland. I also think we might adopt the format of legs starting in the country the leg takes place in, not the pit stop.
There’s no way to know if the three legs filmed in early 2020 could be salvaged, 19 months later. It makes no sense to have legs now in that same area. That would be five or more of the usual 12 legs. I seriously doubt WRP would do that.
I can't imagine airing something that doesn't count
Once that plane starts moving again it should be easy to tell. Either it goes back to LA (or somewhere else in the US) to pick up the teams if they didn’t get on last week or if it moves onto another destination then the race started already and continues on.
Isn't possible that they're quarantining, doing a double leg, or both?Once that plane starts moving again it should be easy to tell. Either it goes back to LA (or somewhere else in the US) to pick up the teams if they didn’t get on last week or if it moves onto another destination then the race started already and continues on.
Plane didn't move since a saturday. I am little afraid that someone got covid.
Once that plane starts moving again it should be easy to tell. Either it goes back to LA (or somewhere else in the US) to pick up the teams if they didn’t get on last week or if it moves onto another destination then the race started already and continues on.
Plane didn't move since a saturday. I am little afraid that someone got covid.
So locations we have so far are: England, Switzerland, Ghana (?), and Turkey. Correct?Absolutely NOT!
I meant where the plane has been not where racers have raced if you were wondering.So locations we have so far are: England, Switzerland, Ghana (?), and Turkey. Correct?Absolutely NOT!
I meant where the plane has been not where racers have raced if you were wondering.So locations we have so far are: England, Switzerland, Ghana (?), and Turkey. Correct?Absolutely NOT!
From a quarantine and border restrictions point-of-view, it might make sense for production to stick around a bit in Schengen, where once you're in it's relatively easy to move around. Probably wouldn't make sense to pop in and out with a UK visit in between.Yes the Best news in a long and diffucult time. They did the right thing, with their own charted flight. Hope they can be ready for, a spring realase!! :cheer:
With that in mind, I'm wondering if the Zurich and Stansted stops were to position crew for the first few legs, with the start yet to come.
Excited we're on the road again!
From a quarantine and border restrictions point-of-view, it might make sense for production to stick around a bit in Schengen, where once you're in it's relatively easy to move around. Probably wouldn't make sense to pop in and out with a UK visit in between.
With that in mind, I'm wondering if the Zurich and Stansted stops were to position crew for the first few legs, with the start yet to come.
Excited we're on the road again!
Maybe we could get some new overdue European countries visited, for example: Montenegro, Latvia, Slovakia, Slovenia, and Bulgaria to name a few.
Also we now understand that the first legs filmed before the Covid Stop may be used.
Too add to this, we can confirm 8 teams flew from LAX to Zurich on Sept.16
Also we now understand that the first legs filmed before the Covid Stop may be used.
Too add to this, we can confirm 8 teams flew from LAX to Zurich on Sept.16
Can you list these 8 teams pls? thanks
So we have pretty much confirmed at least 6 legs in the Europe, right? 2x UK and Sweden from 2020, and then Switzerland, France & Greece in 2021.
There was a charter flight a few days ago on titan airways from Milan->Corsica. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWC902/history/20210821/2353Z/OMDW
Also we now understand that the first legs filmed before the Covid Stop may be used.
Too add to this, we can confirm 8 teams flew from LAX to Zurich on Sept.16
Can you list these 8 teams pls? thanks
So we have pretty much confirmed at least 6 legs in the Europe, right? 2x UK and Sweden from 2020, and then Switzerland, France & Greece in 2021.
Also we now understand that the first legs filmed before the Covid Stop may be used.
Too add to this, we can confirm 8 teams flew from LAX to Zurich on Sept.16
Can you list these 8 teams pls? thanks
So we have pretty much confirmed at least 6 legs in the Europe, right? 2x UK and Sweden from 2020, and then Switzerland, France & Greece in 2021.
The Sweden leg was never filmed. Teams got sent home from the UK.
There was a charter flight a few days ago on titan airways from Milan->Corsica. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWC902/history/20210821/2353Z/OMDW
The tail code for the plane from LA to Zurich was G-POWH.
This plane is G-POWN.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GPOWN
Also we now understand that the first legs filmed before the Covid Stop may be used.
Too add to this, we can confirm 8 teams flew from LAX to Zurich on Sept.16
Can you list these 8 teams pls? thanks
So we have pretty much confirmed at least 6 legs in the Europe, right? 2x UK and Sweden from 2020, and then Switzerland, France & Greece in 2021.
The Sweden leg was never filmed. Teams got sent home from the UK.
I forgot, thanks. There were 3 legs filmed in the UK, I believe.
Has to be 3 legs in the UK if we have 8 teams only (room for 3 eliminations in the first 3 legs). Only thing that could ruin that is a double elimination within the first two legs in 2020.
Has to be 3 legs in the UK if we have 8 teams only (room for 3 eliminations in the first 3 legs). Only thing that could ruin that is a double elimination within the first two legs in 2020.
Or another team couldn’t make it to the restart.
One unidentified MM team, Ray/Caro and Sam/Connie are suspected to not be racing.
All other teams are presumed to be racing via lack of social media activity.
One unidentified MM team, Ray/Caro and Sam/Connie are suspected to not be racing.
All other teams are presumed to be racing via lack of social media activity.
Isn't the Singing Cops already eliminated on the 1st Leg, London.
It would be weird for TAR to bring back eliminated teams, if they are continuing from where they left off.
:duno:
The plane that possibly took racers to Corsica just left Bastia a couple of minutes ago.
One unidentified MM team, Ray/Caro and Sam/Connie are suspected to not be racing.
All other teams are presumed to be racing via lack of social media activity.
Isn't the Singing Cops already eliminated on the 1st Leg, London.
It would be weird for TAR to bring back eliminated teams, if they are continuing from where they left off.
:duno:
A Los Angeles based airplane spotter caught an airplane land at LAX today that had "The Amazing Race" written on its side:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4afj1q2lvJw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4afj1q2lvJw)
One unidentified MM team, Ray/Caro and Sam/Connie are suspected to not be racing.
All other teams are presumed to be racing via lack of social media activity.
Isn't the Singing Cops already eliminated on the 1st Leg, London.
It would be weird for TAR to bring back eliminated teams, if they are continuing from where they left off.
:duno:
This has been addressed in detail. We believe at least two eliminated teams were brought back in to replace the teams unable to go out at this time.
please guys;
USE THE TRANSPORTATION THREAD FOR ALL FLIGHTS ETC SO WE HAVE IT ONE PLACE? THANKS!
please guys;The transportation thread is locked, or at least it is for me.
USE THE TRANSPORTATION THREAD FOR ALL FLIGHTS ETC SO WE HAVE IT ONE PLACE? THANKS!
look again lolThank you!
Webcamgalore.com has some still shots of the Aristotelous Square in Thessaloniki. Not a close up image but you can see the who thing going down.
The recent sightings were the central square of Arnaia.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/%CE%9A%CE%B5%CE%BD%CF%84%CF%81%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AE+%CE%A0%CE%BB%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%B5%CE%AF%CE%B1+%CE%91%CF%81%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%AF%CE%B1%CF%82/@40.4862374,23.5944218,147m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x14a8ef89157ffedd:0xe198ad3d0a16d183!8m2!3d40.4862364!4d23.5949703
The cafe in Arnaia, Greece that took the shot of the cameraman says no teams arrived but that multiple motorbikes came past at one point. Most of the filming 'done on the road' they said.
Webcamgalore.com has some still shots of the Aristotelous Square in Thessaloniki. Not a close up image but you can see the who thing going down.
The recent sightings were the central square of Arnaia.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/%CE%9A%CE%B5%CE%BD%CF%84%CF%81%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AE+%CE%A0%CE%BB%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%B5%CE%AF%CE%B1+%CE%91%CF%81%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%AF%CE%B1%CF%82/@40.4862374,23.5944218,147m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x14a8ef89157ffedd:0xe198ad3d0a16d183!8m2!3d40.4862364!4d23.5949703
The cafe in Arnaia, Greece that took the shot of the cameraman says no teams arrived but that multiple motorbikes came past at one point. Most of the filming 'done on the road' they said.
Perhaps this was a pre-shoot because we were not expecting teams till Monday
I am starting to believe that it was a restart...coz we are seeing things we have never seen before.... It wasn't a rehearsal..in my opinion.. What is going on guys...Why would there only be 8 teams flying from LAX to Zurich if it was a full restart?
I am starting to believe that it was a restart...coz we are seeing things we have never seen before.... It wasn't a rehearsal..in my opinion.. What is going on guys...Why would there only be 8 teams flying from LAX to Zurich if it was a full restart?
I am starting to believe that it was a restart...coz we are seeing things we have never seen before.... It wasn't a rehearsal..in my opinion.. What is going on guys...Why would there only be 8 teams flying from LAX to Zurich if it was a full restart?
Do we even have evidence suggesting that only 8 teams came back for the restart? Or is just pure spec and replacement teams could’ve been brought on as well?
Also we now understand that the first legs filmed before the Covid Stop may be used.
Too add to this, we can confirm 8 teams flew from LAX to Zurich on Sept.16
I am starting to believe that it was a restart...coz we are seeing things we have never seen before.... It wasn't a rehearsal..in my opinion.. What is going on guys...Why would there only be 8 teams flying from LAX to Zurich if it was a full restart?
Do we even have evidence suggesting that only 8 teams came back for the restart? Or is just pure spec and replacement teams could’ve been brought on as well?
places where local rules prohibit any kind of vaccination or mask mandates, even if TSA rules require masks onboard passenger flights. That’s the primary reason why I doubt any mode of public transportation will be used, and GPS guided self driving will likely be making a comeback.
Let's remember that the crew and team walk around with a guy that has a paper which contains permission to be on TV...are we still saying that video was a rehearsal :carryon:There’s nothing to prevent the use of electronic documents being signed on a tablet or iPad, the surface of which can be sanitized after being handled. In fact many places are allowing Covid-19 documents to br carried electronically outside the U.S. Electronic copies can also be stored remotely and securely.
places where local rules prohibit any kind of vaccination or mask mandates, even if TSA rules require masks onboard passenger flights. That’s the primary reason why I doubt any mode of public transportation will be used, and GPS guided self driving will likely be making a comeback.
Agree that there will be more driving as opposed to public transportation, but anti-mask mandates seem to be an exclusively US problem. Masks are compulsory in indoor spaces and public transportation in Switzerland, Italy, France, and Greece; and Italy and France have all but made vaccines mandatory through their respective COVID passes.
Porting this over from the Speculation Thread:This really shouldn’t be discussed in the Timeline and Summary thread, either, so I’m importing it back to the discussion thread.There aren't any quarantine requirements for Switzerland, Italy, France, and Greece, but it's a longer gap than we're used to:
Arrival in Zurich: 17 Sep 1:20pm
Departure from Milan: 22 Sep 11:09am (spending 4 days 22h on land)
Arrival in Bastia: 22 Sep 12:02pm
Departure from Figari: 26 Sep 9:38am (spending 3 days 21h on land)
As a reference, last season we had: Trinidad and Tobago (~1.5 days on land), Bogota (~1.5 days), Manaus (~2.5 days), Asuncion (~2 days), Paris+Berlin (~5 days), Almaty (~2.5 days), Hyderabad (~1.5 days), Siem Reap (~1.5 days), Manila (~1 day).
I wonder if we could have fit in two legs between Switzerland and Italy, or even on Corsica for that matter?
It doesn't make sense for teams to be on the ground for so long, especially since there are no quarantine requirements in any of the countries they've visited so far. Even if they did a test upon arrival at every location they arrived in, the results should be out within 24h. Furthermore, express tests are available with results out within the hour; while these are more expensive, they are more than compensated for by the time and wages saved.
Unless production is allocating a massive amount of buffer time in case something goes wrong, my gut feel is that we've been having double legs in each location, to minimise travel and maximise the use of travel-friendly locations (i.e. not the Asia-Pacific, where most borders remain closed). We could be looking at The Amazing (Mostly) European Race:
Leg 1: London
Leg 2: Glasgow
Leg 3: Somewhere in the UK
Leg 4: Switzerland
Switzerland
Leg 5: Milan
Leg 6: Bastia
Leg 7: Bonifacio
Leg 8 (and 9?): Thessaloniki
Come to think of it, it's very unusual for three consecutive legs in the UK (the only precedent was China in TAR 14). Could it have been a substitute for an Italy leg that was cut during the first European wave of COVID-19, back in early 2020?
That itinerary is suggesting four legs in Corsica across less than four full days, not sure that's reasonable (or remarkable for an amazing race either).
I do wonder if we're having longer lead times because production can't fly ahead to locations this time around to set up the legs. Do we have any indication at this point if production is traveling separately from the teams? I don't think we've identified any charters heading to the leg locations that are separate from the ones we assume the teams travel on.
That itinerary is suggesting four legs in Corsica across less than four full days, not sure that's reasonable (or remarkable for an amazing race either).
I do wonder if we're having longer lead times because production can't fly ahead to locations this time around to set up the legs. Do we have any indication at this point if production is traveling separately from the teams? I don't think we've identified any charters heading to the leg locations that are separate from the ones we assume the teams travel on.
May be proven wrong but I think it’s more likely we are seeing longer times in each location with teams being sequestered for a bit longer each rest period at a new location to allow for production to move ahead / get footage / prepare a day in advance etcetera.
I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s something like:
Leg 1: London, England
Leg 2: Glasgow and Luss, Scotland
Leg 3: Scotland
THEN
Leg 4: Zurich, Switzerland
Leg 5: Milan, Italy
Leg 6: Corsica, France
Leg 7: Thessaloniki and Halkidiki, Greece
There is also space in the timeline between Zurich and Milan for a possible fifth leg (making the others 6-7-8).
I hope Crete isn’t in the filming plans…..
From CNN:
Crete 5.9 earthquake Monday morning.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/27/europe/crete-earthquake-greece-intl-scli/index.html
Neobie, keep in mind there’s no place that has reached 100% vaccinations. I don’t want to ASSUME the US is the only place where requiring mask wearing is a problem, and there’s always the reduced but still existing possibility that someone’s not wearing a mask in a location whether by accident or intent, and not knowing if that person is vaccinated. You have to do everything you can to exclude the slightest chance of exposure to the virus, especially from those who are not yet vaccinated.
A map raises the potential of coming into contact with an unvaccinated local, which is one of the things I surmise production is doing its best to avoid.Neobie, keep in mind there’s no place that has reached 100% vaccinations. I don’t want to ASSUME the US is the only place where requiring mask wearing is a problem, and there’s always the reduced but still existing possibility that someone’s not wearing a mask in a location whether by accident or intent, and not knowing if that person is vaccinated. You have to do everything you can to exclude the slightest chance of exposure to the virus, especially from those who are not yet vaccinated.
Agreed on your general point about minimising points of contact; I was more addressing the point about local laws prohibiting vaccination or mask mandates, which is a particularly American phenomenon. Then again, there's no need to give all teams a GPS to take away all the drama; how about an old-fashioned map instead?
So, in the new thread about the web Cam...There are 9 cars,unless there is a version of another amazing race out there or Amazing Race 34 ....but this many teams is not how Amazing Race 33 should look like after 2 weeks and 1 week in 2020...am more than ever coz the cars leave at the same time :idgit
Halifax? Interesting. Canada leg? :cheer:
I guess we have to follow the whole titan fleet to figure out which plane and where they go to next since they are switching planes
Here is a good link:
https://www.radarbox.com/data/airlines/AWC
ZT901 was LA->Zurich
ZT902 was Milan->Corsica
ZT903 was Corsica->Thessaloniki
So next one will be ZT904?
I guess we have to follow the whole titan fleet to figure out which plane and where they go to next since they are switching planes
Here is a good link:
https://www.radarbox.com/data/airlines/AWC
ZT901 was LA->Zurich
ZT902 was Milan->Corsica
ZT903 was Corsica->Thessaloniki
So next one will be ZT904?
AWC904 is departing in 10 minutes.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GPOWN
It's bound for Thessaloniki.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/g-pown
Still no team sightings after the Greek leg :jam:As far as I am aware, there haven’t been any direct eyeball sightings of the teams period since filming was resumed. Everything has essentially based on the plane! The plane! 🛫🛫
The first plane we were following, the one where an image of it was captured in LA with the Amazing Race tattooed on it front side, sat in London for over a week. It finally left London Mon 1:15PM BST. It appears to have done a quick ~2hr stop in Manchester and then landed in Paris Mon 6:13PM CEST. It just left Paris today Wed at 2:49PM CEST and it is now parked back in London as of Wed 4:14PM BST.I guess we have to follow the whole titan fleet to figure out which plane and where they go to next since they are switching planes
Here is a good link:
https://www.radarbox.com/data/airlines/AWC
ZT901 was LA->Zurich
ZT902 was Milan->Corsica
ZT903 was Corsica->Thessaloniki
So next one will be ZT904?
AWC904 is departing in 10 minutes.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GPOWN
It's bound for Thessaloniki.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/g-pown
:cheer: almost time to find out where they are off to next
https://www.skg-airport.gr/en/flight-list <- departures from Thessaloniki tomorrow
ZT904 going to Lisbon tomorrow AM :)
We don’t know if Portugal will be a location but it looks likely that at the very least they will be flying to the Lisbon airport (could be for a leg or a flight connection)
We don’t know if Portugal will be a location but it looks likely that at the very least they will be flying to the Lisbon airport (could be for a leg or a flight connection)
A connection in Lisbon could mean Azores or Madeira (both Portuguese islands, which would jive well with what we’ve seen thus far - that being EU areas that are somewhat remote), or Lusophone African countries like Cape Verde or São Tomé and Príncipe.
If Portugal is treated like Greece or France has so far, we should focus on lesser visited, rural areas. Places like Braga, Coimbra, Évora, Faro and Lagos might be worth focusing on. I would also expect something more inland if both Corsica and Greece are to be treated as “Mediterranean beach” themed legs. This might be harder, especially if they visit extremely small towns in the interior Portuguese countryside that no one has heard of.
Lisbon appears to be just a connection, the plane left towards London an hour ago. Maybe they’re switching planes again.
Lisbon appears to be just a connection, the plane left towards London an hour ago. Maybe they’re switching planes again.
The company supplying the charter planes is based out of London. They’ve been flying the planes back to base after most of the destinations thus far. Probably costs $$$ to park the planes for extended periods of time atd the destinations.
Is that F/F team hitting at the pit stop Marissa and Marianela(Lulu and Lala)?
White Tower was the Pitstop. Here's a FF team running in!
Teams were also at the Byzantine Walls in Greece. Currently waiting on permission to post the info about that.
Teams were also at the Byzantine Walls in Greece. Currently waiting on permission to post the info about that.
Can you pls tell us which teams? thank you
Finally some sighting. :conf: :cheer: :conf:
Twins and Phil looks really happy at that photo so I am assuming they were not eliminated in that leg. I wonder which leg is it and how far they made it so far.
Finally some sighting. :conf: :cheer: :conf:
Twins and Phil looks really happy at that photo so I am assuming they were not eliminated in that leg. I wonder which leg is it and how far they made it so far.
I'm guessing this is the fourth leg of 2.0, with Zurich, Milan, Corsica being the first three. So Leg 7 if they keep the 3 legs from earlier this year.Twins likely making it to Leg 8 is pretty great.
Finally some sighting. :conf: :cheer: :conf:
Twins and Phil looks really happy at that photo so I am assuming they were not eliminated in that leg. I wonder which leg is it and how far they made it so far.
I'm guessing this is the fourth leg of 2.0, with Zurich, Milan, Corsica being the first three. So Leg 7 if they keep the 3 legs from earlier this year. Twins likely making it to Leg 8 is pretty great.
Yeah, that's really good and unexpected. They made it to F6 at least. Hoping for Raquel and Kayla to be sighted as well, fingers crossed.
Is that F/F team hitting at the pit stop Marissa and Marianela(Lulu and Lala)?I’m lost. Where is the pic?
Lisbon appears to be just a connection, the plane left towards London an hour ago. Maybe they’re switching planes again.
The company supplying the charter planes is based out of London. They’ve been flying the planes back to base after most of the destinations thus far. Probably costs $$$ to park the planes for extended periods of time atd the destinations.
Is it possible the teams deboarded the plane in Portugal and then the plane was flown back to London for parking?
Lisbon appears to be just a connection, the plane left towards London an hour ago. Maybe they’re switching planes again.
The company supplying the charter planes is based out of London. They’ve been flying the planes back to base after most of the destinations thus far. Probably costs $$$ to park the planes for extended periods of time atd the destinations.
Is it possible the teams deboarded the plane in Portugal and then the plane was flown back to London for parking?
A less exciting alternate explanation is that the elimination station is in Portugal and they stopped in Lisbon to drop off eliminated team(s). I have no evidence that would point to this being the case though, just speculation.
Lisbon appears to be just a connection, the plane left towards London an hour ago. Maybe they’re switching planes again.
The company supplying the charter planes is based out of London. They’ve been flying the planes back to base after most of the destinations thus far. Probably costs $$$ to park the planes for extended periods of time atd the destinations.
Is it possible the teams deboarded the plane in Portugal and then the plane was flown back to London for parking?
A less exciting alternate explanation is that the elimination station is in Portugal and they stopped in Lisbon to drop off eliminated team(s). I have no evidence that would point to this being the case though, just speculation.
The pitstop greeter is a little puzzling. Thessaloniki and Chalkidiki are famous for Aristotle of course, but the ragged clothes, pithos (jug/barrel) and staff all bring to mind Diogenes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes), who lived in Sinope and Athens.
Probably the best they could do with such short notice guys. :funny: Just remember the entire race is probably replacement legs at this point.
I think the most likely explanation is that Lisbon is the location of sequesterville and the remaining teams are still in Greece due to Thessaloniki’s COVID status change.What is the Thessaloniki’s COVID status change?
I think the most likely explanation is that Lisbon is the location of sequesterville and the remaining teams are still in Greece due to Thessaloniki’s COVID status change.What is the Thessaloniki’s COVID status change?
Just saw this article about Thessaloniki and area going to a higher covid level
https://www.ekathimerini.com/news/1168809/thessaloniki-larissa-kilkis-halkidiki-turn-red-on-greece-s-covid-map/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
Thanks. Reading that I don’t see any quarantine restrictions prior to traveling out of the country. Am I missing it?I think the most likely explanation is that Lisbon is the location of sequesterville and the remaining teams are still in Greece due to Thessaloniki’s COVID status change.What is the Thessaloniki’s COVID status change?Just saw this article about Thessaloniki and area going to a higher covid level
https://www.ekathimerini.com/news/1168809/thessaloniki-larissa-kilkis-halkidiki-turn-red-on-greece-s-covid-map/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
From the COVID Facts thread
Trans-Atlantic flights are being affected by major hurricane Sam, the eye of which passed by well east of Burmuda overnight. In five days the center of a post tropical/extra tropical cyclone Sam will be headed toward Iceland possibly still with winds of hurricane force well away from the center. Not saying it will be a transit issue, but it’s there, and it has a large wind field that can affect flights at cruising attitudes.
On Lisbon airport departures site says zt905 was originally scheduled to leave Lisbon tomorrow at 2:45 for Portsmouth, NH near Boston but it’s canceled. Dunno what to make of it.
https://www.aeroportolisboa.pt/en/lis/flights-destinations/find-flights/real-time-departures
If Lisbon is real, wonder if it is either a refueling site before another north/South America destination or a destination itself. But idk what to make of the cancellation either.
Trans-Atlantic flights are being affected by major hurricane Sam, the eye of which passed by well east of Burmuda overnight. In five days the center of a post tropical/extra tropical cyclone Sam will be headed toward Iceland possibly still with winds of hurricane force well away from the center. Not saying it will be a transit issue, but it’s there, and it has a large wind field that can affect flights at cruising attitudes.
How long you think it could delay that flight originally slated for tomorrow?
TAR has done a one continent race before (TAR 8 ) and has done a circular route crossing the Atlantic eastbound and westbound before (TAR 7).
If an Arabian Sea/Indian Ocean tropical cyclone is headed towards Oman in the next couple of days, that is the last place production would send the Racers. https://rsmcnewdelhi.imd.gov.in/
Basing on the number of countries visited and the number of days (2wks) , I feel that they can gain 9 legs to add to the original 3 ... Any more countries next week will highly suggest a re-started season, with No questions whatsoever :kuss:
TAR plane 1.0 just landed in Lisbon with the flight number AWC 905. Might be preparing to cross the Atlantic.I think you are right. I always figured they would fly back to the US on the original plane that was captured with TAR displayed on its side.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/g-powh
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GPOWH
TAR plane 1.0 just landed in Lisbon with the flight number AWC 905. Might be preparing to cross the Atlantic.I think you are right. I always figured they would fly back to the US on the original plane that was captured with TAR displayed on its side.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/g-powh
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GPOWH
I am really confused. Did they somehow already film remaining 8 legs and are now going back to US to film final 12th leg?
I am really confused. Did they somehow already film remaining 8 legs and are now going back to US to film final 12th leg?
There is almost always a double leg. But THIS season also has multiple quarantines so we are moving slower than normal. No worries, this is expected.
Looking at the timeline, it's possible as they spent a few days at each location. Could be double legs
I hope that the city that was implied by the cancelled flight from Lisbon is indeed the final city as I might actually be able to go there if the timing is right to try to get some pictures!
On Lisbon airport departures site says zt905 was originally scheduled to leave Lisbon tomorrow at 2:45 for Portsmouth, NH near Boston but it’s canceled. Dunno what to make of it.
https://www.aeroportolisboa.pt/en/lis/flights-destinations/find-flights/real-time-departures
If Lisbon is real, wonder if it is either a refueling site before another north/South America destination or a destination itself. But idk what to make of the cancellation either.
Is final leg supposed to be raced today?I’m thinking today or tomorrow. It depends on if they hit the ground running as soon as the plane lands, or if they rest in location start racing tomorrow. Just my guess.
What was that??? Big thing in green, that they avoided....Anyways cheers :jam: :jam: :waves:That was /is Hurricane Sam. It is transitioning to a large and powerful extra tropical storm with hurricane force winds, although it is expected to remain classified as a tropical, rather than an extra tropical, cyclone until overnight tonight or early tomorrow.
Is it possible that they’re filming in two separate sets because of TAN filming?
Set 1: Europe/Mediterranean legs (3 weeks)
*TAN filming (4-5 weeks)*
Set 2: Non-European/Mediterranean legs (3-4 weeks)
Is it possible that they’re filming in two separate sets because of TAN filming?
Set 1: Europe/Mediterranean legs (3 weeks)
*TAN filming (4-5 weeks)*
Set 2: Non-European/Mediterranean legs (3-4 weeks)
What do u mean by sets..Are u saying that they will film Tar34 now immediately after tar33 just like AmazingRace Israel did with 7 and 8
What do u mean by sets.?
Pliz clarify
Is it possible that they’re filming in two separate sets because of TAN filming?
Set 1: Europe/Mediterranean legs (3 weeks)
*TAN filming (4-5 weeks)*
Set 2: Non-European/Mediterranean legs (3-4 weeks)
Also this 2nd round of filming was about 3 weeks and the contestants probably have to get back to their jobs :)x especially if they didn’t win the million lol
Is it possible that they’re filming in two separate sets because of TAN filming?
Set 1: Europe/Mediterranean legs (3 weeks)
*TAN filming (4-5 weeks)*
Set 2: Non-European/Mediterranean legs (3-4 weeks)
What do u mean by sets..Are u saying that they will film Tar34 now immediately after tar33 just like AmazingRace Israel did with 7 and 8
What do u mean by sets.?
Pliz clarify
Is it possible that they’re filming in two separate sets because of TAN filming?
Set 1: Europe/Mediterranean legs (3 weeks)
*TAN filming (4-5 weeks)*
Set 2: Non-European/Mediterranean legs (3-4 weeks)
What do u mean by sets..Are u saying that they will film Tar34 now immediately after tar33 just like AmazingRace Israel did with 7 and 8
What do u mean by sets.?
Pliz clarify
Sorry I couldn’t find the word I wanted to use. I guess I meant rounds, like some of TAR 33’s legs we’re just filmed and the rest of them will be filmed in like a month after TAN filming.
Also this 2nd round of filming was about 3 weeks and the contestants probably have to get back to their jobs :)x especially if they didn’t win the million lol
Is it possible that they’re filming in two separate sets because of TAN filming?
Set 1: Europe/Mediterranean legs (3 weeks)
*TAN filming (4-5 weeks)*
Set 2: Non-European/Mediterranean legs (3-4 weeks)
What do u mean by sets..Are u saying that they will film Tar34 now immediately after tar33 just like AmazingRace Israel did with 7 and 8
What do u mean by sets.?
Pliz clarify
Sorry I couldn’t find the word I wanted to use. I guess I meant rounds, like some of TAR 33’s legs we’re just filmed and the rest of them will be filmed in like a month after TAN filming.
Based on the transportation thread, I am assuming it is confirmed that they are flying from Lisbon to LA. The question is if LA the final destination, quarantine before a finale somewhere else in the USA, or just a connection for another country in the Americas. Personally I wouldn’t be surprised if they go up to Canada (maybe Vancouver/Seattle as the last two legs) or to Mexico, the Caribbean, or somewhere else in Central America (finishing in the south, maybe Florida?). My biggest question is, would they really do the finale in LA again? I wouldn’t rule out LA just being a stopping point before another city for the finale, so I definitely think we need to keep our eyes peeled in other places around the country and know if and when the plane leaves again.
Has there been self drive in a final leg before? I always remember that 3rd place team in many seasons with a terrible cab driver lol
The question is if LA the final destination, quarantine before a finale somewhere else in the USA, or just a connection for another country in the Americas.
Phil is going to be a guest on Entertainment Tonight tomorrow just FYI.
Are we sure these are “live” live? ET is pre-corded, and the segments are recorded in advance of that. As to Instagram, he doesn’t have to be in any specific spot, and that could be before or after. And is 3 PM, eastern, pacific, or what?Phil is going to be a guest on Entertainment Tonight tomorrow just FYI.
Phil is also scheduled to go live on Instagram tomorrow at 3 PM to promote Tough as Nails.
Are we sure these are “live” live? ET is pre-corded, and the segments are recorded in advance of that. As to Instagram, he doesn’t have to be in any specific spot, and that could be before or after. And is 3 PM, eastern, pacific, or what?
teama arrived earlier. Have to quarantine and/or testing. It is not a same day race sigh.What does this mean? What are you saying?
teama arrived earlier. Have to quarantine and/or testing. It is not a same day race sigh.What does this mean? What are you saying?
Sad news everyone.Wow. How did that happen with all our detectives out looking? WRP must be onto us. :'(
Filming was apparently completed yesterday.
We are all just...devastated.
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
a thought - the Finale was in Portugal and the trip back to the US was bringing them all home?
Sooooo curious as to what the casting theme of the season is!! We have so many cast members who were stars of viral videos or are minor celebrities but then we also have flight attendants and a father/daughter duo from Detroit? Not sure what it is but I'm very interested to see
Sooooo curious as to what the casting theme of the season is!! We have so many cast members who were stars of viral videos or are minor celebrities but then we also have flight attendants and a father/daughter duo from Detroit? Not sure what it is but I'm very interested to see
I just think TAR/CBS thinks more typical people won’t get viewers :/In fairness, the show was simply picking up from where it'd left off, before CBS had enforced its appliicant-heavy policy. Surely the seasons after this one will be heavier on applicants. And more diverse, given the call for fifty percent of the contestants being POCs.
I just think TAR/CBS thinks more typical people won’t get viewers :/In fairness, the show was simply picking up from where it'd left off, before CBS had enforced its appliicant-heavy policy. Surely the seasons after thus one will be heavier on applicants. And more diverse, given the call for fifty percent of the contestants being POCs.
More applicants than recruits, for starters?I just think TAR/CBS thinks more typical people won’t get viewers :/In fairness, the show was simply picking up from where it'd left off, before CBS had enforced its appliicant-heavy policy. Surely the seasons after thus one will be heavier on applicants. And more diverse, given the call for fifty percent of the contestants being POCs.
I mean TAR32 and TAR33 were both well past that 50% mark so I don't think much is going to change on that front.
I think it looks like Raquel, Dusty, and Ryan are in the second photo. I wonder who the people under helipad are?Where are these pics you arr talking about?
I think it looks like Raquel, Dusty, and Ryan are in the second photo. I wonder who the people under helipad are?Where are these pics you arr talking about?
Yeah, if that’s not Penn it would have to be Sam who it seems like was eliminated in 2020 or chose not for return.That might be the finale start captured.
But why would the F3 all be up there together like that? I can’t think of a reason why…maybe I’m just being dense haha!
Just going off what I saw of teams in 2020, that looks most like Ryan & Dusty, Raquel (& Cayla), Penn (& Kim).
Just going off what I saw of teams in 2020, that looks most like Ryan & Dusty, Raquel (& Cayla), Penn (& Kim).
Cayla was active this morning, I saw that she had followed a bunch of the teams on InstagramJust going off what I saw of teams in 2020, that looks most like Ryan & Dusty, Raquel (& Cayla), Penn (& Kim).
If filming was today, this makes sense bc all the other teams that returned were active on Instagram except for those three.
Production has shown an intent to use the KISS method in its efforts to avoid exposure to the unvaccinated and avoid having to have vaccinated cast, crew and production in quarantine while doing so. What’s hard to decipher is what they’ll do on a final leg, wherever it is, about using taxis. We’ve speculated about avoiding taxis and other transit options for the same reason. I just can’t see that changing now, since there’s no place in the country with 100% vaccination rates. I’d be quite surprised to see any location in the final leg in a publicly accessible area, indoors or outdoors, but using self driving, or hired vehicles whose drivers have been vaccinated. It’s very hard to figure out rationally without more information that we’re to get. It’s a quandary!
Sad news everyone.
Filming was apparently completed yesterday.
We are all just...devastated.
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Cayla was active this morning, I saw that she had followed a bunch of the teams on InstagramJust going off what I saw of teams in 2020, that looks most like Ryan & Dusty, Raquel (& Cayla), Penn (& Kim).
If filming was today, this makes sense bc all the other teams that returned were active on Instagram except for those three.
Production has shown an intent to use the KISS method in its efforts to avoid exposure to the unvaccinated and avoid having to have vaccinated cast, crew and production in quarantine while doing so. What’s hard to decipher is what they’ll do on a final leg, wherever it is, about using taxis. We’ve speculated about avoiding taxis and other transit options for the same reason. I just can’t see that changing now, since there’s no place in the country with 100% vaccination rates. I’d be quite surprised to see any location in the final leg in a publicly accessible area, indoors or outdoors, but using self driving, or hired vehicles whose drivers have been vaccinated. It’s very hard to figure out rationally without more information that we’re to get. It’s a quandary!
Unvaccinated people in the U.S. takes cabs. Cab drivers arent always vaccinated. Do you think any of these contestants ask their uber drivers if theyve been vaccinated?!
So . . . Penn & Kim, Dusty & Ryan, and Cayla & Raquel are our F3? At least that's how I'm gathering it looks?
And is there a fourth team, too, for a F4? If so, whom could that be?
So . . . Penn & Kim, Dusty & Ryan, and Cayla & Raquel are our F3? At least that's how I'm gathering it looks?
And is there a fourth team, too, for a F4? If so, whom could that be?
Clubs The Suck this morning was speculating a Final 4 of those three plus Natalia & Arun so I could be them.
That 2nd photo is so weird... Where are the cameramans and other crew? Supposed teams just standing next to each other for what reason? Why there is no Kayla next to what is speculated Raquel?I think that Cayla is standing there with her. If you look VERY closely, you can see a second person down there with Raquel. Maybe they're taping a confessional with a cameraman who's obscured from sight somehow.
That 2nd photo is so weird... Where are the cameramans and other crew?
That 2nd photo is so weird... Where are the cameramans and other crew? Supposed teams just standing next to each other for what reason? Why there is no Kayla next to what is speculated Raquel?
Let's give credit if we're going to copy and paste word for word...
https://clubsthatsuck.jcink.net/index.php?showtopic=3217&st=160 (https://clubsthatsuck.jcink.net/index.php?showtopic=3217&st=160)
I wonder if we'll get an episode of the teams at home during the Pandemic. What if there's a virtual leg?I'm gonna bet probably...no virtual leg lol! that just sounds like a logistical nightmare and terrible television, especially when they were always planning on going out and finishing the season one day
I wonder if we'll get an episode of the teams at home during the Pandemic. What if there's a virtual leg?
I wonder if we'll get an episode of the teams at home during the Pandemic. What if there's a virtual leg?
Teams coming to play The Amazing Race: Roblox. 😍😍
Lol maybe that's how they determined which already eliminated team to bring back as a replacement, whoever won a season of TAR Roblox. :funny:
In seriousness though, RuPaul's Drag Race UK 2 had a special quarantine episode in between their shutdown. I could see TAR33 having something similar where the cast documented their lives during the break and updated on any big life changes. I doubt this would air on CBS though, but maybe as an exclusive Paramount+ only episode?
And in other news, according to social media of some of the cast, looks like they checked out of their LA hotels and flew back home today.
This is quite tangential to the previous posts, but what do you think we can make of Leg 3? (The one after Glasgow)
If we're assuming this was a second leg in Scotland, I'm wondering how rural this leg must have been? There were no sightings whatsoever after Glasgow, so I'm wondering if we visited the Hebrides, Highlands or Orkneys?
I’m thinking an early/mid January release to act as a buffer between the two survivor seasons.I think your timeline is even more likely with TAR not being effected by the Hollywood Union workers striking. It adds pressure to non-union production works to be producing during the strike.
I have a feeling that the theme might be some type of heroes season like what TARCAN did. You have Spencer & Anthony who stopped a terrorist attack, Sam & Connie who made local news for helping an athlete without a home live with them, you have Ryan who was wrongfully accused of murder and helps those who were also wrongfully accused, Akbar who is a hero fro all the local teachers, cops (although debatable), etc. Only team I have trouble fitting into this theme is Ray & Caro.
I have a feeling that the theme might be some type of heroes season like what TARCAN did. You have Spencer & Anthony who stopped a terrorist attack, Sam & Connie who made local news for helping an athlete without a home live with them, you have Ryan who was wrongfully accused of murder and helps those who were also wrongfully accused, Akbar who is a hero fro all the local teachers, cops (although debatable), etc. Only team I have trouble fitting into this theme is Ray & Caro.What??? Can you do a list please and include a link that explains each of these please? News articles or whatever...
I have a feeling that the theme might be some type of heroes season like what TARCAN did. You have Spencer & Anthony who stopped a terrorist attack, Sam & Connie who made local news for helping an athlete without a home live with them, you have Ryan who was wrongfully accused of murder and helps those who were also wrongfully accused, Akbar who is a hero fro all the local teachers, cops (although debatable), etc. Only team I have trouble fitting into this theme is Ray & Caro.What??? Can you do a list please and include a link that explains each of these please? News articles or whatever...
Braheam Murphy was a young man who was all but homeless, in need of some stability and guidance.
His new football coach, Sam Greiner, was getting to know Murphy and would often give him a ride home. But it was rarely to the same place.
“I didn’t know it at first. I didn’t know that Braheam didn’t have a home,” Greiner told CNN. “Eventually he just opened up to me. And he was like, ‘I have to stay with my sister from place to place.’ … And I didn’t know what to do at the time, so I go into my office and I’m thinking, something’s tugging at my heart.”
Greiner called his wife, Connie, and asked to have a guest for dinner who would need to stay the night. One night turned into two, and then it became a week. A week then became a month and eventually “Braheam just became a family member. He’s been living with us ever since.”
Stone was on vacation with his childhood friends, Aleksander Skarlatos and Anthony Sadler, when an armed gunman entered their train carrying an assault rifle, a handgun and a box cutter. The three friends, with the help of a British passenger, subdued the gunman after his rifle jammed.
I have a feeling that the theme might be some type of heroes season like what TARCAN did. You have Spencer & Anthony who stopped a terrorist attack, Sam & Connie who made local news for helping an athlete without a home live with them, you have Ryan who was wrongfully accused of murder and helps those who were also wrongfully accused, Akbar who is a hero fro all the local teachers, cops (although debatable), etc. Only team I have trouble fitting into this theme is Ray & Caro.What??? Can you do a list please and include a link that explains each of these please? News articles or whatever...
I have a feeling that the theme might be some type of heroes season like what TARCAN did. You have Spencer & Anthony who stopped a terrorist attack, Sam & Connie who made local news for helping an athlete without a home live with them, you have Ryan who was wrongfully accused of murder and helps those who were also wrongfully accused, Akbar who is a hero fro all the local teachers, cops (although debatable), etc. Only team I have trouble fitting into this theme is Ray & Caro.
I don't get how Radio DJ's are heroes.
Born in North Bergen, New Jersey, television and radio personalities and twin sisters Lulu & Lala began to captivate the Latin market in 2007 as part of the syndicated Luis Jimenez Show. Six years later, these Cuban-Salvadorian sisters moved to the English radio market and co-hosted the Ty Loves NY morning show. That was followed by a 2 year trip down South to do their own show in afternoons in Miami. In addition, throughout their tenure the girls have been regular correspondents for the entertainment news show "El Gordo y la Flaca,” Univision's highest rated national TV show, and have also corresponded for many events including Premios Juventud, Premio Lo Nuestro, the Latin Grammys and the multiple auditions for Nuestra Belleza Latina in New York.
Did Spencer and Anthony return to film this in 2021? Do we know?
Did Spencer and Anthony return to film this in 2021? Do we know?
I am also curious about this. Both Spencer and Anthony's last Instagram postings are in August, before the September-October filming. So technically they could have come back? I also noted Akbar posted something on his Instagram on October 2 which looked like a live post...did Akbar and Sheridan return? Who is the third team who didn't come back alongside Sam & Connie and Ray & Caro?
Apparently teams eliminated during 2021 filming were not sequestered and returned home after their elimination. Someone mentioned here that singing cops and husbands did not make it to Greece because they exposed themselves at Instagram. I think we can most likely find some clues about other teams as well if we look closely to their SM accounts.
I have a feeling that the theme might be some type of heroes season like what TARCAN did. You have Spencer & Anthony who stopped a terrorist attack, Sam & Connie who made local news for helping an athlete without a home live with them, you have Ryan who was wrongfully accused of murder and helps those who were also wrongfully accused, Akbar who is a hero fro all the local teachers, cops (although debatable), etc. Only team I have trouble fitting into this theme is Ray & Caro.What??? Can you do a list please and include a link that explains each of these please? News articles or whatever...
Spencer & Anthony: https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/americans-stopped-french-train-attack-stabbed-california/story%3fid=34340898 (https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/americans-stopped-french-train-attack-stabbed-california/story%3fid=34340898)
Connie & Sam: https://www.google.com/amp/s/myfox8.com/news/nc-high-school-football-coach-finds-out-his-teams-quarterback-is-homeless-so-he-invites-him-to-move-in/amp/ (https://www.google.com/amp/s/myfox8.com/news/nc-high-school-football-coach-finds-out-his-teams-quarterback-is-homeless-so-he-invites-him-to-move-in/amp/)
Ryan & Dusty: https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/ryan-ferguson-freed-spending-decade-prison-murder/story%3fid=20867889 (https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/ryan-ferguson-freed-spending-decade-prison-murder/story%3fid=20867889)
Akbar & Sheridan: https://www.complex.com/life/2020/12/principal-akbar-h-cook-newark-west-side-high (https://www.complex.com/life/2020/12/principal-akbar-h-cook-newark-west-side-high)
Michael & Moe: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/buffalo-new-york-singing-cops-michael-norwood-moe-badger-band-together-viral-video-2019-04-16/ (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/buffalo-new-york-singing-cops-michael-norwood-moe-badger-band-together-viral-video-2019-04-16/)
Raquel & Cayla: https://www.dreamtown.com/agents/raquel-moore (https://www.dreamtown.com/agents/raquel-moore) (last paragraph talks about their volunteer work)
According to Ross Crystal's interview with Bertram van Munster, he was at Northern Sweden on Feb 28/20 along with Phil and production crew when the production was planned to shoot the third leg in Sweden before the announcement of production suspension.
From all the sources I've seen, it seems like three episodes were filmed and all of them were in the UK.According to Ross Crystal's interview with Bertram van Munster, he was at Northern Sweden on Feb 28/20 along with Phil and production crew when the production was planned to shoot the third leg in Sweden before the announcement of production suspension.
So we only have two episode before?
According to Ross Crystal's interview with Bertram van Munster, he was at Northern Sweden on Feb 28/20 along with Phil and production crew when the production was planned to shoot the third leg in Sweden before the announcement of production suspension.LINK : https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/an-interview-with-bertram-van-munster-executive/id1518080714?i=1000494531891 (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/an-interview-with-bertram-van-munster-executive/id1518080714?i=1000494531891)
The TAR Detective team knew what the next leg was. It was not Glasgow. There was a lot of buzz about Stockholm but nothing confirmed IIRC. Our unseen leg was in Sweden.. THAT location was the next leg and was being readied.. (withheld at the time in case there was hope of restart.)According to Ross Crystal's interview with Bertram van Munster, he was at Northern Sweden on Feb 28/20 along with Phil and production crew when the production was planned to shoot the third leg in Sweden before the announcement of production suspension.LINK : https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/an-interview-with-bertram-van-munster-executive/id1518080714?i=1000494531891 (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/an-interview-with-bertram-van-munster-executive/id1518080714?i=1000494531891)
I wonder if the Sweden leg was going to be a KOR leg. This could explain why they suspended production in the UK since while, at the time of filming, Sweden was safe Northern Italy wasn’t.
There was an article back when everything stopped that talked about a leg in Ireland (or was it Northern Ireland? I don't remember)
So I think we should keep this in mind!
Just saw a commercial for the new season on CBS - only short but thought I’d make sure we knew - can someone find?
In the clip of Arun I would like to point out that there are Canadian flags in the background. Could they possibly snuck a leg in Canada? However it could also just be a Canadian owned hotel.
In the clip of Arun I would like to point out that there are Canadian flags in the background. Could they possibly snuck a leg in Canada? However it could also just be a Canadian owned hotel.
In the clip of Arun I would like to point out that there are Canadian flags in the background. Could they possibly snuck a leg in Canada? However it could also just be a Canadian owned hotel.
Link to this clip??
Just saw a commercial for the new season on CBS - only short but thought I’d make sure we knew - can someone find?
https://twitter.com/AMikeBloomType/status/1468752712145805318
Good to see Italophone Switzerland revisited after Season 14, but whither Milan?
Yeah interesting they didn't note Italy or Milan in the article. Maybe Milan was just a connection?
Good to see Italophone Switzerland revisited after Season 14, but whither Milan?
Yeah interesting they didn't note Italy or Milan in the article. Maybe Milan was just a connection?
EDIT: Also confirmation that two teams dropped out. But only seven teams returned? Didn't we have eight returning? Hmm... does that seven include the Singing Cops being brought back? Confused about this tbh!
In the clip of Arun I would like to point out that there are Canadian flags in the background. Could they possibly snuck a leg in Canada? However it could also just be a Canadian owned hotel.
Are we 100% sure singing cops were originally eliminated in 1st leg? Should it be NEL maybe?100% elimination
-Then there's a mail (?) Roadblock that Ryan, Penn, and Ray perform.
(https://i.imgur.com/zCSUhsi.jpg)
Both the Gonzales sisters and Penn and Kim Holderness, who had been involved with Season 33 since its pre-pandemic launch, said that there was never any doubt about returning amidst the pandemic, given their love of the show—as long as every possible step was taken to ensure their safety. “If you didn’t give us all those protocols, it would’ve been hard to return,” admitted Penn Holderness. “[But] it was safer in Europe than in our house…It was amazing.”
-I think we missed a second London leg in the day.
-For starters, there's this Route Info with teams meeting up with Phil:
(https://i.imgur.com/keZ3vkN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vW8dJf1.jpg)
Also just for the sake of hard confirmation via press release:QuoteBoth the Gonzales sisters and Penn and Kim Holderness, who had been involved with Season 33 since its pre-pandemic launch, said that there was never any doubt about returning amidst the pandemic, given their love of the show—as long as every possible step was taken to ensure their safety. “If you didn’t give us all those protocols, it would’ve been hard to return,” admitted Penn Holderness. “[But] it was safer in Europe than in our house…It was amazing.”
Lulu & Lala and Penn & Kim returned for the 2021 resumption.
Some spec (Press Express has released photos of the two-hour premiere):
-I think we missed a second London leg in the day.
-For starters, there's this Route Info with teams meeting up with Phil:
(https://i.imgur.com/keZ3vkN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vW8dJf1.jpg)
-Then there's a mail (?) Roadblock that Ryan, Penn, and Ray perform.
(https://i.imgur.com/zCSUhsi.jpg)
-There's also a cake challenge (Detour?) that Penn & Kim, Taylor & Isaiah, Raquel & Cayla, Akbar & Sheridan, and Spencer & Anthony are seen doing. Note that Ray's clothes match with the above photo.
(https://i.imgur.com/U9lKtT1.png)
-There's also a pub task with darts (other Detour) that Dusty & Ryan, Arun & Natalie, and Lulu & Lala are seen doing. (twins clothes match with the tea photo)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZEVdHwi.png)
-This is also the pop a bung task that was seen in sightings.
(https://i.imgur.com/3hoHkBk.png)
I think it's safe to say that we had a second London day leg before we went to Glasgow and then the season got put on hold. There are absolutely no signs of Michael & Moe in that London set of tasks and we know Connie & Sam made Glasgow. The Press Express photos are also tagged as premiere.
Some spec (Press Express has released photos of the two-hour premiere):
-I think we missed a second London leg in the day.
-For starters, there's this Route Info with teams meeting up with Phil:
(https://i.imgur.com/keZ3vkN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vW8dJf1.jpg)
-Then there's a mail (?) Roadblock that Ryan, Penn, and Ray perform.
(https://i.imgur.com/zCSUhsi.jpg)
-There's also a cake challenge (Detour?) that Penn & Kim, Taylor & Isaiah, Raquel & Cayla, Akbar & Sheridan, and Spencer & Anthony are seen doing. Note that Ray's clothes match with the above photo.
(https://i.imgur.com/U9lKtT1.png)
-There's also a pub task with darts (other Detour) that Dusty & Ryan, Arun & Natalie, and Lulu & Lala are seen doing. (twins clothes match with the tea photo)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZEVdHwi.png)
-This is also the pop a bung task that was seen in sightings.
(https://i.imgur.com/3hoHkBk.png)
I think it's safe to say that we had a second London day leg before we went to Glasgow and then the season got put on hold. There are absolutely no signs of Michael & Moe in that London set of tasks and we know Connie & Sam made Glasgow. The Press Express photos are also tagged as premiere.
So, if we had a 2nd London leg, then the teams that moved on to Scotland are Raquel/Cayla, Spencer/Anthony and Ryan/Dusty (pitstop pic), Connie/Sam (spotted asking for directions), and supposedly Lulu/Lala and Kim/Penn from press releases.
That means either Arun/Natalia, Akbar/Sheridan, Ray/Caro, Taylor/Isiah are in trouble. Michael and Moe should have been eliminated at this point.
During COVID most shows wrapped themselves into strictly-controlled bubbles so that they could film safely.
But what do you do when your show is The Amazing Race?
Season 33 had to halt filming after just 3 legs were in the can in early 2020, sending cast and crew home and waiting some 18 months to resume.
The season will finally premiere in the USA in early January. Having left off in Glasgow, Scotland, it returns via Zurich, Switzerland with host Phil Keoghan saying, “Welcome back to The Amazing Race… before we were so rudely interrupted…”
Producers tell Variety they even chartered a 757 jet, complete with TAR logo on the side, shuttled contestants and crew from place to place without having to enter crowded airports.
“It actually opened up a whole new world for us of how to do this in a very different way, but still have the same feel and energy,” Elise Doganieri says. “It created a close race every single time that plane landed in the next city… I think you’re going really like the way the show plays out with this plane. It might be the wave of the future, but I don’t know if it’ll be affordable for a global trip.”
“I picked a route that was mostly in remote areas or small cities,” Bertram van Munster says. “We looked very carefully so we could do two or three shows in a country, which we normally don’t do. These were all handpicked areas where they had the least amount of COVID, where we had freedom to go into a lot of areas where there’s nobody there.”
“Some of the best TV we get is when these contestants self-drive,” Doganieri says. “Nothing makes these contestants more crazier than when they have to figure out how to get somewhere without a GPS device. So there will not be any taxis, there will not be any public transportation with other people. But we definitely have some buses and shuttles and different means of transportation. And we also stayed out of those places that we felt were going to be filled with people that weren’t tested. So everybody that worked on our crew, every judge, every person that you’ll see around the contestants has been tested and vaccinated. That was just part of our strict protocol rules, but it will feel and look like the Amazing Race. You really won’t feel any different from what you’re seeing.”
New trailer with lots of images!!! I don't know how to put it here but here is the link:
https://twitter.com/CBS/status/1469391982254440449
Phil says
13 cities, 7 countries and more than 22 000 miles!
For the countries we know: USA/UK/Switzerland/France/Greece/Portugal, and either Italy (depending if they make that count or if it's just a shuttle) or maybe a mystery country!!!
I knew that man I overhead in London talking about a darts challenge wasn't lying! Wonder where that factors in!
Also - I believe they are counting England and Scotland as two seperate countries. Therefore I think we are looking at:
England, Scotland, Switzerland, France, Greece, Portugal and United States (and technically Italy briefly).
So it's a big European/UK adventure, but nonetheless, I cannot wait to have the Race back!
I knew that man I overhead in London talking about a darts challenge wasn't lying! Wonder where that factors in!
Also - I believe they are counting England and Scotland as two seperate countries. Therefore I think we are looking at:
England, Scotland, Switzerland, France, Greece, Portugal and United States (and technically Italy briefly).
So it's a big European/UK adventure, but nonetheless, I cannot wait to have the Race back!
There are threads on Reddit hinting at a possible Israel leg.
-There's also a pub task with darts (other Detour) that Dusty & Ryan, Arun & Natalie, and Lulu & Lala are seen doing. (twins clothes match with the tea photo)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZEVdHwi.png)
Not sure if this has been brought up, but it looks like the teams have to recreate flags of countries, I briefly saw Norway, France, Germany, UK, Chile, Thailand, Jamaica, Colombia and South Africa.
Not sure if this has been brought up, but it looks like the teams have to recreate flags of countries, I briefly saw Norway, France, Germany, UK, Chile, Thailand, Jamaica, Colombia and South Africa.
I noticed that as well. I believe Uzbekistan, Brazil, and Russia were the other flags being recreated.
When the race resumed, not all contestants could make their way back. Two pairs fell out, but seven teams managed to return. “Certain people had just extenuating circumstances that frustrated us and them and everybody really tried to make everything work so everybody could come back,” Doganieri says.
The night leg that I witnessed (Leg 1) ended in Michael & Moe being eliminated. During the leg, I overheard a crew member at the graffiti detour (we see Kim & Penn performing it in the promo) say that there was a darts task tomorrow. I returned to the Natural History Museum the following day to see if teams had continued on but could find no trace of them. I'm now wondering if they did some interviews with teams that same evening and then set them off again for a second leg after a 'no-rest pitstop'.
About 36 hours after the end of Leg 1, I found the teams again with some canny sleuthing at a hotel in Kensington. If the second leg was completed by this point, no team had been eliminated in leg 2 as I saw all 10 remaining teams board the train from London Euston to Glasgow Central. I followed the charter bus that took them from hotel to station, and saw them all board. I also heard the teams discussing 'the roadblock' and if they had struggled. At the time, I couldn't understand as I hadn't seen a roadblock, only some active route info and a detour, but now I believe the darts task is a roadblock (we see Ryan, Arun and one of the twins completing). I think the cake task is an ARI, but could also be one half of a second leg detour. I think Phil gives teams their clues to start leg 2 on the double decker bus, or teams have to search for him on a nearby double decker from the pitstart...
So either the second leg is mostly in London, and then teams are bunched up via train to Glasgow, and set off for a final task in Luss before a pitstop at the University of Glasgow cloisters (we see 10 teams racing from the train in promo footage). Or the second leg is a non-elimination given all 10 get to Glasgow...
Hope that makes sense. Given we returned with 8 teams this year (apparently) for Leg 4, it seemed likely that all 3 legs in UK were elimination, so I lean towards the idea that the second leg sees them do a few tasks in London during the day, before training to Glasgow to finish off the second leg with the 'pop the bung' task in Luss, and travel back to Glasgow for Orain Mor route info (might be edited out) and Cloisters pitstop. All speculation...
And then a third leg in and around Glasgow city ending in elimination for January 12. Leaves us with 8 teams for the re-start (with a few eliminated teams returning to fill the space of those that could not return). Thoughts?
This is what Elise says about handling the non returnees.
"When “The Amazing Race 33” shut down production in February 2020 due to COVID-19, nine out of 11 teams remained. When production resumed in September in 2021, only seven pairs were able to return. Those two teams were not replaced, but the show naturally had to make adjustments to address their absences.
I also think that one of the teams eliminated in 2020 was Ray & Caro. They clearly did not return for 2021 filming and Elise said in interview there were 2 teams that really wanted to return but were just not able to make it this time. Both Ray & Caro are unemployed influencers so I do not think time schedule would be problem for them. So that's why I am assuming they were already eliminated in 2020. And yeah I know that they broked up but they filmed RTV show for MTV together between these two TAR filmings so it's not likey they hate each other.
QuoteWhen the race resumed, not all contestants could make their way back. Two pairs fell out, but seven teams managed to return. “Certain people had just extenuating circumstances that frustrated us and them and everybody really tried to make everything work so everybody could come back,” Doganieri says.
So what happened to the Singing Cops? We know they're out in London because they were never seen on the train heading to Glasgow as per Kiwi.
Based on the interview with Elise it also sounds like production didn't invite them back and continued on with the remaining 7 teams that could return (2 eliminated teams in the first three legs + 2 teams that didn't return for September filming + 7 remaining teams = our full cast of 11 teams).
But we know they also disappeared online with the rest of the cast the September filming... did production just hold them in LA for 3 weeks to clap at the finish line? :funny:
Did anyone else notice that there was no pit stop greeter at the British Museum of Natural History? Could this mean that London was a TBC leg?
PITSTOP
Arun & Natalya (Father/Daughter) 8:52
Connie & partner (Red team - relationship I think) 9:06
Marisa & Marianela (Twins) 9:37
Michael & Moe (Singing Cops) 9:40
The gates closed after the cops checked in. The man waiting for them to arrive went inside. So I think these teams checked in 8-11. We shall see whether the cops are eliminated or survive.
PITSTOP was inside the Natural History Museum. The outside was lit up in blue and the pitstop was in the great lobby of the museum, with the iconic massive dinosaur skeleton above their heads.
Or Caro and Ray chose not to return.
Or Caro and Ray chose not to return.
Elise said in interview that both missing teams wanted to return but couldn't due to circumstances.
But interesting is that Ray seem gratefull and excited for TAR33 while Caro with her 554K followers didn't even aknowledge she is on, lol.
Or Caro and Ray chose not to return.
Elise said in interview that both missing teams wanted to return but couldn't due to circumstances.
But interesting is that Ray seem gratefull and excited for TAR33 while Caro with her 554K followers didn't even aknowledge she is on, lol.
Did anyone else notice that there was no pit stop greeter at the British Museum of Natural History? Could this mean that London was a TBC leg?
I was under impression that 1st leg pit stop was outside and we actually saw/heard singing cops being eliminated. But apparently it was inside and we just assumed it because they came last? lol
From 1st live sightings thread posted by Kiwi Jay:QuotePITSTOP
Arun & Natalya (Father/Daughter) 8:52
Connie & partner (Red team - relationship I think) 9:06
Marisa & Marianela (Twins) 9:37
Michael & Moe (Singing Cops) 9:40
The gates closed after the cops checked in. The man waiting for them to arrive went inside. So I think these teams checked in 8-11. We shall see whether the cops are eliminated or survive.QuotePITSTOP was inside the Natural History Museum. The outside was lit up in blue and the pitstop was in the great lobby of the museum, with the iconic massive dinosaur skeleton above their heads.
So yeah, everything is pointing out that cops got saved by TBC in the 1st leg and were never eliminated in 2020 as was originally spoiled. So their return does make sense now.
Did anyone else notice that there was no pit stop greeter at the British Museum of Natural History? Could this mean that London was a TBC leg?
I was under impression that 1st leg pit stop was outside and we actually saw/heard singing cops being eliminated. But apparently it was inside and we just assumed it because they came last? lol
From 1st live sightings thread posted by Kiwi Jay:QuotePITSTOP
Arun & Natalya (Father/Daughter) 8:52
Connie & partner (Red team - relationship I think) 9:06
Marisa & Marianela (Twins) 9:37
Michael & Moe (Singing Cops) 9:40
The gates closed after the cops checked in. The man waiting for them to arrive went inside. So I think these teams checked in 8-11. We shall see whether the cops are eliminated or survive.QuotePITSTOP was inside the Natural History Museum. The outside was lit up in blue and the pitstop was in the great lobby of the museum, with the iconic massive dinosaur skeleton above their heads.
So yeah, everything is pointing out that cops got saved by TBC in the 1st leg and were never eliminated in 2020 as was originally spoiled. So their return does make sense now.
I followed the 10 teams as they departed London and boarded a train to Glasgow on the overnight sleeper in February 2020. The Cops were nowhere to be seen. It's 99.9% likely they were eliminated in the first leg.
Did we find out which 4 teams did not return for 2021 filming? Ray & Caro and Connie & Sam are pretty much confirmed, what about other 2 teams?
A couple of details mentioned in the current Wikipedia article about Spencer Stone.
In 2015, several months after the train terrorist event, Spencer was attacked and repeatedly stabbed in the back with life threatening injuries to his lungs, liver, and heart, requiring emergency open heart surgery.
In November 2020, he traveled to France to give testimony in the trial of the train terrorist and three accomplices. Before he was able to give his testimony he was hospitalized for undisclosed reasons and his testimony was delayed. Note this was several months after the production suspension for season 33. BTW, Spencer and his two friends not only received the Legion of Honor from France in 2015, they were naturalized as citizens of France in 2018. That 2020 hospitalization may be relevant to the resumption of production a few months ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Stone
A couple of details mentioned in the current Wikipedia article about Spencer Stone.
In 2015, several months after the train terrorist event, Spencer was attacked and repeatedly stabbed in the back with life threatening injuries to his lungs, liver, and heart, requiring emergency open heart surgery.
In November 2020, he traveled to France to give testimony in the trial of the train terrorist and three accomplices. Before he was able to give his testimony he was hospitalized for undisclosed reasons and his testimony was delayed. Note this was several months after the production suspension for season 33. BTW, Spencer and his two friends not only received the Legion of Honor from France in 2015, they were naturalized as citizens of France in 2018. That 2020 hospitalization may be relevant to the resumption of production a few months ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Stone
Something about one of them possibly being medivacuated, I believe.
Agreed, which means both all-female teams made the Final Seven.
We know that Raquel and Kayla made F3 but what about twin sisters? How far they got? What do you think?
We know that Raquel and Kayla made F3 but what about twin sisters? How far they got? What do you think?F4. The final leg was a F4 this time.
We know that Raquel and Kayla made F3 but what about twin sisters? How far they got? What do you think?F4. The final leg was a F4 this time.
I know we saw a 4th team but I find it very hard to believe in a season where we already have two teams who couldn’t return that we would have one less elimination before the final leg
I really hope their fix for the teams who couldn't return wasn't doing Australia's "stowaway thing", a team or two we won't hear about until they join the race. Probably not, but...Elise stated in one or more recent interviews they used a way that didn’t involve additional NELs. The only way I can think of is a variant of the KOR/double length leg approach, with no check in/pit stop so that some legs required two episodes.
We know that Raquel and Kayla made F3 but what about twin sisters? How far they got? What do you think?F4. The final leg was a F4 this time.
Evidence?
The fourth and sixth seasons of the Canadian edition already did that.
The fourth and sixth seasons of the Canadian edition already did that.
But it's never happened in TAR USA ever before, so it'd be a first for them. :)
Stephane & Antoine were the second boots.The fourth and sixth seasons of the Canadian edition already did that.
But it's never happened in TAR USA ever before, so it'd be a first for them. :)
Touche; funnily enough, the Singing Cops will be following in the footsteps of previous all-male first-boots Antoine/Stephane and Chewy/Happy.
We know that Raquel and Kayla made F3 but what about twin sisters? How far they got? What do you think?F4. The final leg was a F4 this time.
Evidence?
Okay. I'll ask again.This is completely speculation: I think it's Anthony & Spencer because of their documented health issues that occurred in 2020.
Other than Ray & Caro, which other team did not return after the COVID shutdown?
And for a definitive answer come out which seven teams did return? Obviously, Dusty & Ryan, Raquel & Cayla, and Kim & Penn did, given that they're our alleged F3, and Arun & Natalia and Taylor & Isaiah are just as allegedly the fourth- and fifth-place-finishers (unless I'm mistaken on those). But who are the last two?
Not sure what thread this belongs in.
https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/the-amazing-race-premiere-season-33-open-1235143969/
Back to the boot order: Cops/Greniers/TrainBoys/LoveIslanders are all very much out of the game by the time that the restart occurs.Which would mean . . .
The TAR youtube channel also has a 1 minute sneak peak into the art detour from leg 1.Thanks for that.
We know that Raquel and Kayla made F3 but what about twin sisters? How far they got? What do you think?F4. The final leg was a F4 this time.
Evidence?
We know that Raquel and Kayla made F3 but what about twin sisters? How far they got? What do you think?F4. The final leg was a F4 this time.
Evidence?
Why do we believe that it was a F4 final leg?
Correction: just this person, who has since recanted that miscalculation.
Rather far from either Zurich or Lugano, however.
Shortly after filming stopped, the couple got a big surprise: Connie got pregnant. The couple is expecting a boy, to be named Elijah Rock, just in time for Christmas.
Dunno how this got missed, but it's clear now why Sam & Connie didn't return:
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/high-school/article256675157.htmlQuoteShortly after filming stopped, the couple got a big surprise: Connie got pregnant. The couple is expecting a boy, to be named Elijah Rock, just in time for Christmas.
In February 2020, the team and 10 others set off to London as shooting for the show began. Shortly thereafter, as COVID-19 began to spread globally, they were sent back home. It wasn’t until September 2021 that filming could resume.
After monumental life shifts, Harris and Ferguson got the call to continue the show. Finally, in the first week of 2022, the world will get to see the story.
Dunno how this got missed, but it's clear now why Sam & Connie didn't return:
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/high-school/article256675157.htmlQuoteShortly after filming stopped, the couple got a big surprise: Connie got pregnant. The couple is expecting a boy, to be named Elijah Rock, just in time for Christmas.
Connie has also since given birth on December 20, 2021. Congratulations to the couple!
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXtScwnAMOe/
Did we ever figure out what was up with the Michael and Moe Instagram post from September? The one that said they were going to LA for an exciting opportunity? Since we are pretty sure they're first boots, obviously they aren't coming back, but I don't think we ever figured out why they posted that.
I think the only 3 teams I didn't see are Taylor & Isaiah/Arun & Natalia and Raquel & Cayla.Really? Whom did you see? I watched via streaming, so I can't go back and check again.
We know the girls survived, so either the Newlyweds or Father/Daughter are out!
So - this is super weird. I thought Bertram told us that he was in Sweden preparing the fourth leg when he called back to Scotland and suspended?
Yet in the preview (up on YT if you want to look), he can be seen next to Phil at the Cloisters in Glasgow with all the teams gathering, and we see Phil giving his speech there that it has been suspended. Cue shots of Caro & Ray and Connie & Sam (one of whom we thought would be eliminated).
Unless they are playing a trick on us with this, it does look likely that Arun & Natalia are eliminated next leg. Did we ever confirm if they had returned? So weird as Bert definitely said he was in Sweden...but the zoom in shot at 00:17 of the preview (check Varsha Shen YT) shows Bert there, and the chat shortly after...
Sighted from left to right:
Akbar & Sheri
Lulu & Lala
Kim & Penn
Caro & Ray
(this looks to be Taylor & Isaiah, as a shot of Connie & Sam shows a man in a blue jacket, which is definitely not Natalia).
Connie & Sam
Raquel & Cayla
Anthony & Spencer
Ryan & Dusty
Which means Arun & Natalia would be out? But we had them down as one of the F7 returning...strange! We will see next week!
I think it is entirely possible production flew back to Glasgow before telling the teams. (Production might have been looking for some alternate if options from Lapland had been foreclosed that might still be possible from Glasgow before concluding all options were foreclosed.)
So - this is super weird. I thought Bertram told us that he was in Sweden preparing the fourth leg when he called back to Scotland and suspended?
Yet in the preview , he can be seen next to Phil at the Cloisters in Glasgow with all the teams gathering, and we see Phil giving his speech there that it has been suspended. Cue shots of Caro & Ray and Connie & Sam (one of whom we thought would be eliminated).
Unless they are playing a trick on us with this, it does look likely that Arun & Natalia are eliminated next leg. Did we ever confirm if they had returned? So weird as Bert definitely said he was in Sweden...but the zoom in shot at 00:17 of the preview shows Bert there, and the chat shortly after...
Sighted from left to right:
Akbar & Sheri
Lulu & Lala
Kim & Penn
Caro & Ray
(this looks to be Taylor & Isaiah, as a shot of Connie & Sam shows a man in a blue jacket, which is definitely not Natalia).
Connie & Sam
Raquel & Cayla
Anthony & Spencer
Ryan & Dusty
Which means Arun & Natalia would be out? But we had them down as one of the F7 returning...strange! We will see next week!
Michael & Moe and Arun & Natalia return for 2021 filming for sure, there is proof for that. It was posted here yesterday but it got deleted then because of forum policy reasons I guess. But yeah, they returned.Gamer provided a picture that showed 5 teams, including Michael and Moe, at the Finish Line. The others were Arun & Natalia, Taylor & Isaiah, and Lulu & Lala, indicating that they all returned for 2021 filming. Of course, like Michael & Moe, one of the teams may have returned for the express purpose of appearing at the Finish Line. Of the six teams not pictures, three were our final three, and the other three did not return for filming.
Also do we have F4 as it was rumored? Because there are certain things which pointing out we can have F4 twist like TAR25/26 this season.
Yeah if you watch the preview you can see nine teams lined up during Phil's production shutdown speech. The only team clearly not there is Arun and Natalia. :( Pretty surprised to see them out?
Not sure what thread this belongs in.
https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/the-amazing-race-premiere-season-33-open-1235143969/
Apparently some medical problems occurred in team of Anthony & Spencer which could prevent them to return as well.
There is also an in-depth article about Raquel & Cayla (that mentions something about "a 19 month journey and time spent in COVID downtime") but it is paywalled. Maybe someone here can report it back.
Article: https://news.gulfbreezenews.com/articles/she-is-on-amazing-race/ (https://news.gulfbreezenews.com/articles/she-is-on-amazing-race/)
This is just speculation but, I read that Ray and Caro wanted to come back but she had problems with her visas because she lived in Scandinavia now?
Anyway, I guess we will see who can't come soon enough.
That adds up. I did find it weird how they were seemingly planning both an Arctic Circle and Nepal visit in the winter in the same season but it makes sense now that Arctic Circle was being planned while the show was happening and after Nepal was cancelled
Penn & Kim confirmed a few things route wise on their recap podcast:
1. Racers were given a visa for Nepal so it’s likely that Nepal was on the original route
2. All Asian legs were canceled prior to filming
3. Bertram & his team were planning 2 or 3 legs in the arctic circle while teams were in London
Racers are always given some visas for places they are NOT going... otherwise they would know and could research their locations to come. :)x
SO you cannot say NEPAL was CONFIRMED based on that.
Hmm, not so sure. Nepal, Thailand and Vietnam have been "confirmed" in press interviews since the shutdown one way or another. Piecing everything together, I think this only works if the route changed multiple times:
1. Original race course developed prior to Dec 2019 with Nepal, Thailand and Vietnam. Finalists are set by this point, contestants apply for visas.
WRP does all that. There are ALWAYS extra visas obtained for countries NOT being visited so that teams are not ever sure of exactly where they are going.
That is why a VISA for Nepal in their passport does not mean they are or are not going there. They very well could have been. But the VISA alone cannot be used as proof. There are always extras. A team new to TAR would not likely know all this.
It's seemed like 5 teams at the photo are teams eliminated in 2021 and then there were (supposedly) 4 teams missing which run the final leg at the time photo was taken. There was that rumor about F4 twist happening this season so I think it can be true after all?
-I think we missed a second London leg in the day.
-For starters, there's this Route Info with teams meeting up with Phil:
(https://i.imgur.com/keZ3vkN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vW8dJf1.jpg)
Is the bus a moving Pit Stop a la TARA 5's Singapore bumboat Pit Stop?
-I think we missed a second London leg in the day.
-For starters, there's this Route Info with teams meeting up with Phil:
(https://i.imgur.com/keZ3vkN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vW8dJf1.jpg)
Is the bus a moving Pit Stop a la TARA 5's Singapore bumboat Pit Stop?
A waste that this idea was not used!
I think they mean if the bus wandered around the neighbourhood/along a set route, and teams had to look for it to check in.
I think they mean if the bus wandered around the neighbourhood/along a set route, and teams had to look for it to check in.
Thought so. So basically like TAR Canada's "Beatnik Bus" task.
It was the Pitstop for the leg, but the point was about the bus moving locations :groan:
Looking at Oval's timeline for Ep 3 - screen caps - I only see 8 teams at the Glasgow pitstop when Phil announces TAR suspended.Taylor and Isaiah look to be next to Connie & Sam. If you look at the jacket next to Connie, you can see it differs from Ray's-- there's a team between these two.
The missing teams are Arun/Natalia and Taylor/Isaiah.
Am I missing something?
Looking at Oval's timeline for Ep 3 - screen caps - I only see 8 teams at the Glasgow pitstop when Phil announces TAR suspended.Taylor and Isaiah look to be next to Connie & Sam. If you look at the jacket next to Connie, you can see it differs from Ray's-- there's a team between these two.
The missing teams are Arun/Natalia and Taylor/Isaiah.
Am I missing something?
I didn’t notice Taylor and Isaiah either at the restarting line! Did I just miss them? Or were they also not there?I noticed a black man in a blue shirt running on the preview; it could be either one of Taylor/Isaiah or Michael/Moe.
I didn’t notice Taylor and Isaiah either at the restarting line! Did I just miss them? Or were they also not there?
I count seven teams. Left to right in this screenshot it is: Akbar & Sheri, Kim & Penn, Lulu & Lala, Raquel & Cayla, Ryan & Dusty, Arun & Natalia. It looks like Caro & Ray, Anthony & Spencer, and Connie & Sam don't return as expected while Taylor & Isaiah don't return either making for a little ~surprise~.
https://imgur.com/a/v7yUsdW
Edit: This confuses me though because press articles said two teams wouldn't be able to make it. Maybe they knew there were 9 teams left when they stopped and 7 teams left when they came back and they did some extrapolation?
I'm thinking about Connie & Sam, who got super quiet edits this episode; I'm of the opinion that all teams deserve some type of farewell.
I doubt it'll happen, since reality tv isn't known for caring for their cast, but I'd really appreciate it if we were given a reason why the 4 teams that didn't return were unable to, or at least provided with a brief retrospective in appreciation. I'm thinking about Connie & Sam and Anthony & Spencer in particular, who got super quiet edits this episode; I'm of the opinion that all teams deserve some type of farewell.
I'm thinking about Connie & Sam, who got super quiet edits this episode; I'm of the opinion that all teams deserve some type of farewell.
Connie was 6 months pregnant.
I count seven teams. Left to right in this screenshot it is: Akbar & Sheri, Kim & Penn, Lulu & Lala, Raquel & Cayla, Ryan & Dusty, Arun & Natalia. It looks like Caro & Ray, Anthony & Spencer, and Connie & Sam don't return as expected while Taylor & Isaiah don't return either making for a little ~surprise~.
https://imgur.com/a/v7yUsdW (https://imgur.com/a/v7yUsdW)
Edit: This confuses me though because press articles said two teams wouldn't be able to make it. Maybe they knew there were 9 teams left when they stopped and 7 teams left when they came back and they did some extrapolation?
I count seven teams. Left to right in this screenshot it is: Akbar & Sheri, Kim & Penn, Lulu & Lala, Raquel & Cayla, Ryan & Dusty, Arun & Natalia. It looks like Caro & Ray, Anthony & Spencer, and Connie & Sam don't return as expected while Taylor & Isaiah don't return either making for a little ~surprise~.
https://imgur.com/a/v7yUsdW (https://imgur.com/a/v7yUsdW)
Edit: This confuses me though because press articles said two teams wouldn't be able to make it. Maybe they knew there were 9 teams left when they stopped and 7 teams left when they came back and they did some extrapolation?
Closer... Click Click to enlarge
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/bb140/ga--peach/RETURN_LINEUP.jpg?width=180&height=180&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ga--peach/a/71f84852-9f79-427f-b379-2c789ce92ce4/p/46d46b26-21f3-4307-9a03-c43d6692bcbe)
I count seven teams. Left to right in this screenshot it is: Akbar & Sheri, Kim & Penn, Lulu & Lala, Raquel & Cayla, Ryan & Dusty, Arun & Natalia. It looks like Caro & Ray, Anthony & Spencer, and Connie & Sam don't return as expected while Taylor & Isaiah don't return either making for a little ~surprise~.
https://imgur.com/a/v7yUsdW (https://imgur.com/a/v7yUsdW)
Edit: This confuses me though because press articles said two teams wouldn't be able to make it. Maybe they knew there were 9 teams left when they stopped and 7 teams left when they came back and they did some extrapolation?
Closer... Click Click to enlarge
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/bb140/ga--peach/RETURN_LINEUP.jpg?width=180&height=180&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ga--peach/a/71f84852-9f79-427f-b379-2c789ce92ce4/p/46d46b26-21f3-4307-9a03-c43d6692bcbe)
wait I see seven
I count seven teams. Left to right in this screenshot it is: Akbar & Sheri, Kim & Penn, Lulu & Lala, Raquel & Cayla, Ryan & Dusty, Arun & Natalia. It looks like Caro & Ray, Anthony & Spencer, and Connie & Sam don't return as expected while Taylor & Isaiah don't return either making for a little ~surprise~.
https://imgur.com/a/v7yUsdW (https://imgur.com/a/v7yUsdW)
Edit: This confuses me though because press articles said two teams wouldn't be able to make it. Maybe they knew there were 9 teams left when they stopped and 7 teams left when they came back and they did some extrapolation?
Closer... Click Click to enlarge
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/bb140/ga--peach/RETURN_LINEUP.jpg?width=180&height=180&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ga--peach/a/71f84852-9f79-427f-b379-2c789ce92ce4/p/46d46b26-21f3-4307-9a03-c43d6692bcbe)
wait I see seven
yes this includes the 5 returning teams + the 2 eliminated teams that are coming back!
Something definitely happened super last minute with Taylor & Isaiah.
I was looking at their social media around mid-September when the Singing Cops posted their "going back to LA for a big adventure" stuff on Instagram, and one of Taylor/Isaiah also posted a selfie of both of them in an airplane wearing masks. They also had on their blue colored team shirts. The post was a couple days before the Restarting Line date. The fact that they were in their blue TAR uniform definitely makes me think this was a selfie from them flying out to location.
There's also the leaked Finish Line picture of all the eliminated teams and Taylor/Isaiah are there, but Connie/Sam, Caro/Ray, and Anthony/Spencer aren't.
I wonder if they tested positive for COVID at the last minute and had to drop because of that sadly?
I'm thinking about Connie & Sam, who got super quiet edits this episode; I'm of the opinion that all teams deserve some type of farewell.
Connie was 6 months pregnant.
Yeah, she just delivered last week.
Singing Cops Social Media Timeline
On September 13th, the Singing Cops made a video post on Instagram at an airport wearing large backpacks and saying they're going down to Hollywood for a big opportunity that's "even bigger than Ellen." People that seem to know them post about "safe travels" in the comments and TAR22 alum Katie even wishes them "good luck!":
https://www.instagram.com/p/CTwhabeFQZa/
The same day, Mike posts a video on his personal Instagram saying he's at the Buffalo Airport and going down to Hollywood:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CTwk4J1jj-v/
The same day, Mike posts another video on Instagram of them being picked up by a driver at the airport in LA:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CTxeRHljzV-/
After that, 8 days of silence on all social media.
Finally, on September 21st, the Singing Cops page posts the following "@thebflostore for being the official store @thesingingcops shopped at for our newest television venture. Very soon the spirit of #Buffalove will be on display for the world to see!!!!!" This may be someone running their account or it may be them: https://www.instagram.com/p/CUF2n5SJ4J2/
The next day, September 22nd, Mike returns to his personal Instagram with this post. It may be someone running the account for him or it may actually be him:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CUIDK-CL8Ib/
The next day, September 23rd, Mike makes a video post on his personal Instagram that clearly shows him back home and in his own car. Could be prerecorded but doesn't seem so in my opinion:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CULcmRXjCOn/
From September 23rd and on, Mike regularly goes back to posting similar content he was posting before the 8-day break.
On October 5th, Mike posts on his personal Instagram a video saying he's catching an early morning flight to LA to finish up some business out there:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CUpTCNzD8Ii/
On October 7th, the Singing Cops Instagram posts a video with them seeming to exit a hotel lobby and get into a car with the caption "The singing cops signing out , to be continued……":
https://www.instagram.com/p/CUuxj_oFxQJ/
Later that day, the Singing Cops Instagram posts a video of Mike and Moe inside of the car that picked them up from their last post and saying that whatever experience they had was "life changing" and that they can't wait to show us what's next:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CUvgEldlCFF/
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The way I interpret all this is that they flew to LA for sequester starting on September 13th and then likely get eliminated on September 21st, so it seems like they don't last a long time.
But regardless, this CONFIRMS that they did not just fly out to LA to be held for weeks just to show up at the finale, as we can see they flew back out on October 5th for the finale and then left on October 7th.
Yes, I'm well aware of the reasons they couldn't come back, and I'm very much happy for their family!I'm thinking about Connie & Sam, who got super quiet edits this episode; I'm of the opinion that all teams deserve some type of farewell.
Connie was 6 months pregnant.
Yeah, she just delivered last week.
:conf:
Little surprised about Taylor & Isaiah, given there was evidence they were present at the finish line in California. Wonder what happened. A little clarification at the outset of next leg would be awesome.
As for the other three teams, Connie was 6 months pregnant, Caro & Ray had split up and Spencer had some health issues across 2020/21 so that may have been the reason they could not return.
Strangely enough, I was most invested in the teams that are returning, so I am happy with the seven that will return for leg 4.
Rumours I kept seeing on TAR's social media posts today say Taylor & Isaiah had a death in the family from Covid, and one of Anthony & Spencer were injured last year. Not sure if there's any truth to it.Anthony & Spencer's reason makes sense since it lines up with the suspicion of one of their health issues. But I had no idea that that was the issue for Taylor & Isaiah. My condolences to whichever one's family had the loss.
Rumours I kept seeing on TAR's social media posts today say Taylor & Isaiah had a death in the family from Covid, and one of Anthony & Spencer were injured last year. Not sure if there's any truth to it.
The next leg have to be NEL, right? No way they would go to 5th leg with 6 teams only.
I personally think the four teams that have withdrawn should have been tied for 8th place.
The next leg have to be NEL, right? No way they would go to 5th leg with 6 teams only.How are Arun & Natalia confirmed as F4? I saw a lot of speculation that that was the case but nothing really concrete beyond that.
Cops will get eliminated at 7th place in 5th leg then, I think. Arun and Natalia are more or less confirmed as 4th place and we know our F3.
This leaves Lulu & Lala and Akbar & Sheri as 5th/6th place. I would love Lulu & Lala take that higher position. It would be nice to have both FF teams making F5.
The next leg have to be NEL, right? No way they would go to 5th leg with 6 teams only.
Cops will get eliminated at 7th place in 5th leg then, I think. Arun and Natalia are more or less confirmed as 4th place and we know our F3.
This leaves Lulu & Lala and Akbar & Sheri as 5th/6th place. I would love Lulu & Lala take that higher position. It would be nice to have both FF teams making F5.
The next leg have to be NEL, right? No way they would go to 5th leg with 6 teams only.How are Arun & Natalia confirmed as F4? I saw a lot of speculation that that was the case but nothing really concrete beyond that.
Cops will get eliminated at 7th place in 5th leg then, I think. Arun and Natalia are more or less confirmed as 4th place and we know our F3.
This leaves Lulu & Lala and Akbar & Sheri as 5th/6th place. I would love Lulu & Lala take that higher position. It would be nice to have both FF teams making F5.
Do we have any idea on what the roadblock count rules will be for Michael and Moe (since they missed the first 2 roadblocks)?
I just found out that Caro doesn’t have a U.S. passport or even a green card.
She says her father is German so I suspect she has a Germany passport which ranks higher than a U.S. passport on the latest Henley global passport index.
She’s in the U.S. on a student visa with OPT that allows her to work for a couple years. She has now permanently left the country. I wonder if this is the first time there’s a non-citizen on the show.
https://youtu.be/pIBB_QeHoWw
Remember, Phil used to say not allowing Canadians on the show is to avoid unfairness by contestants holding different passports.
Rumours I kept seeing on TAR's social media posts today say one of Anthony & Spencer were injured last year. Not sure if there's any truth to it.
Listings do seem to suggest this race is only getting 10 legs, instead of 11 or 12, unless there's another double episode in the upcoming weeks, which seems unlikely.
IF we are only getting 10 legs, financially it does make sense. Do speculate that what would be the budget for 11/12, probably got merged into implementing all the COVID protocols. Just not sure how that lines up with our Timeline.
Do we have any idea on what the roadblock count rules will be for Michael and Moe (since they missed the first 2 roadblocks)?
Anybody who knows where the staircase, from next episode is?
Especially since the likelihood of a Fast Forward (or even an Express Pass) actually appearing after a hiatus of four seasons is nil.
Especially since the likelihood of a Fast Forward (or even an Express Pass) actually appearing after a hiatus of four seasons is nil.
I got a sinking suspicion that the staircase task is a Fast Forward but don't quote me on that.
Especially since the likelihood of a Fast Forward (or even an Express Pass) actually appearing after a hiatus of four seasons is nil.
I got a sinking suspicion that the staircase task is a Fast Forward but don't quote me on that.
Tbh the stairway task is a bit too difficult for rb and dt task so you might be on to something
Is this press photo Lulu & Lala having to jump off the dock at the pit stop after being eliminated? Kind of like how Zach & Rachel had to walk the plank in 28?
Evidence?
I wonder if the restart plan was to have a full 12 leg season with leg 11 also in Portugal, but when Taylor and Isaiah dropped out at the last minute, they cut a leg since they were already bordering on too many NEL's.
It was confirmed already a few weeks ago by one of the creators that it would be 11 legsOh I had no idea, I didn't know someone mentioned it in here, and I have read all the replies, well sorry.
It was confirmed already a few weeks ago by one of the creators that it would be 11 legsOh I had no idea, I didn't know someone mentioned it in here, and I have read all the replies, well sorry.
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Apparently finale is airing hour earlier in Canada? Can someone post here the winners then pls? thank you :luvya:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VTGkL5MmTk - Justin's recap podcastMy suspicion has been that two legs were planned for Portugal, but they combined what ARIs and the roadblocks from the two planned legs into one. It was surprising that there were two legs this seasons with two roadblocks and no detours.
Kim says they had planned for a full 12 legs, but nixed one due to Taylor & Isaiah's last minute dropout. (1:42:00). Wonder what country it could have been, or would they have just doubled up Portugal?
Apparently finale is airing hour earlier in Canada? Can someone post here the winners then pls? thank you :luvya:
I think the door painting ARI have 5 options for teams to choose somehow indicated that it was planned for 5 teams to complete.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VTGkL5MmTk - Justin's recap podcastMy suspicion has been that two legs were planned for Portugal, but they combined what ARIs and the roadblocks from the two planned legs into one. It was surprising that there were two legs this seasons with two roadblocks and no detours.
Kim says they had planned for a full 12 legs, but nixed one due to Taylor & Isaiah's last minute dropout. (1:42:00). Wonder what country it could have been, or would they have just doubled up Portugal?