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The Amazing Race International Versions => TAR Australia => Topic started by: BourkieBoy on October 05, 2020, 02:13:07 AM
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Feel free to Bitch, Moan & Squeal with joy here.
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This is the place for general enthusiasm (or not...) :funny:
Actual SPOILERS or DISCUSSION ON SPOILERS go in those threads please!
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This entire season is a bad idea.
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This entire season is a bad idea.
I don't like it MEDICALLY either when so much of AUS is still on restrictions.
But guess it is all in how they are handling it...we'll see. Hope they have a really good medical team who can advise them on this.
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This entire season is a bad idea.
I'm also quite concerned - I honestly don't mind the idea of an Australia-only season but I wish they waited a few months until the whole country is back in action.
Both WA and Vic are completely off limits (and Tasmania is only letting residents in). Therefore, the route will be poor with just NT, SA, QLD and NSW? Not sure about ACT.
Considering they are supposedly doing a two-week quarantine first, I'm tempted to speculate a start in the NT - perhaps even where Season 4 finished off in Katherine Gorge?
Then down to SA and then across to QLD, finishing in Sydney, NSW perhaps.
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Should be soon!!
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They really want an MF team to win huh :funny:
Surprised they have 12 teams especially when they are filming in the time period we are living in
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They really want an MF team to win huh :funny:
Surprised they have 12 teams especially when they are filming in the time period we are living in
Possible the 12th team was an alternate if another tested positive, but yes this is the TARC 4 of casts.
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They really want an MF team to win huh :funny:
It looks more like they don't want a MM team to win for 5th time in a row. TARAU really needs female winner finally, tbh, so I am here for them casting only 1 MM team this time. It looks like 8 MF, 3 FF and 1 MM, with 1 FF already being spoiled to be last at some point during leg. :( I really hope this will not be another TAR6 with few same sex teams casted being first ones out.
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I really need some teams sightings asap. :funny:
Assuming we are at leg 4 there should be 10 teams still racing.
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They should just call this season The Amazing Race Queensland! :funny:
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They should just call this season The Amazing Race Queensland! :funny:
:clap2: :funny: :lol:
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There's so many damn islands and worse backtracking than TAR Canada has had. Yikes.
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One positive thing I’ll mention. I actually like that they’re visiting some really obscure places! As an American I’ve definitely heard of Cairns & Townsville, but I’m just now finding out about these awesome places like Magnetic Island, Palm Island, Fitzroy island, green island (lots of islands haha) plus towns like Newell and winton and longreach.
All of this is to say I’m discovering a lot of new places in Australia that I would not have known otherwise. So I’m actually excited for this season!
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Lol at this route. This is going to be such a trainwreck, I can't wait. :2hearts:
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It looks like FF teams, overweight teams and that old MF were already eliminated. What a great start of the season. Underdogs dropping one by one... Only young athletic teams were sighted. Another **** season is coming. That athletic MM is obviously winning this, it's TAR Australia after all.
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In Australia do you not have to wear masks in the airport!
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In Australia do you not have to wear masks in the airport!
The only state in Australia which has mandatory masks... is Victoria... :'(
Anyway, in all seriousness, most of the other Australian states/territories have completely killed off the coronavirus, so there’s no need for masks anywhere! :funny:
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In Australia do you not have to wear masks in the airport!
The only state in Australia which has mandatory masks... is Victoria... :'(
Anyway, in all seriousness, most of the other Australian states/territories have completely killed off the coronavirus, so there’s no need for masks anywhere! :funny:
That's mad, Pretty much everywhere in Europe (uk included) you have to wear a mask in all public places unless ur sat down or in the open air. In Turkey I had no mask on whilst walking down the street and was told off by the police :0
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TAR's first Tasmania visit! About time that place in Australia got visited! :cheer:
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More F/F and M/F teams and yet 2/3 of the F3 are M/M teams, never change TARAUS :2hearts: :2hearts: :2hearts: :zz:
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Yeah, beards team is so going to win this, it was obvi since I saw their photos. 5th MM winners in a row.
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Yeah, beards team is so going to win this, it was obvi since I saw their photos. 5th MM winners in a row.
TBH, I was lowkey excited for the season until I saw the final 3.
I hope this "at least 14 teams" and 16 to 17 leg race won't drag on. Maybe I won't watch at all :funny:
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Why has everyone given up hope on the models winning? It’s not completely out of the possibility :duno:
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Why has everyone given up hope on the models winning? It’s not completely out of the possibility :duno:
The statistics of past seasons is not in their favour is all :(
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Yay for Tasmania :D
And Canberra, too, I suppose. Australia's never-seen capital.
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TARAu5 needs to hurry up and get here so we can cleanse our TAR palates :jam:
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I get HaMerotz vibes from TARAu5. Should be interesting lol
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Hot Take }:> I'm glad Network Ten disregards the Seven Network seasons of TARAu because so far, TARAu4 and whatever TARAu5 ends up being is definitely not the same as the first three seasons that became the gold standard for TAR around the world.
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Hot Take }:> I'm glad Network Ten disregards the Seven Network seasons of TARAu because so far, TARAu4 and whatever TARAu5 ends up being is definitely not the same as the first three seasons that became the gold standard for TAR around the world.
Even hotter take - only AUS2 is good.
AUS1 severely drags once they hit Europe, and AUS3 has one of the worst TAR casts ever. AUS4 is bland and boring 12 episodes in a row. It wasted a perfectly good route with that bland cast.
I don't really have hopes for this season but as long as the cast pops and we get fun racing, I could care less about the twists or whatever they're doing.
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That's a VERY hot take indeed lol
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Hot Take }:> I'm glad Network Ten disregards the Seven Network seasons of TARAu because so far, TARAu4 and whatever TARAu5 ends up being is definitely not the same as the first three seasons that became the gold standard for TAR around the world.
Even hotter take - only AUS2 is good.
AUS1 severely drags once they hit Europe, and AUS3 has one of the worst TAR casts ever. AUS4 is bland and boring 12 episodes in a row. It wasted a perfectly good route with that bland cast.
I don't really have hopes for this season but as long as the cast pops and we get fun racing, I could care less about the twists or whatever they're doing.
I agree with your opinion of S2 (the best) and S3 (very bland).
I disagree with S1 tho, sure there was some low but the cast was great, and the route at the end pretty interesting (ISRAEL!!)
As for S4, I think I was just so happy to have it back that I'm not 100% objective. Sure it was worst than S1 and S2 but I liked it better thanS4. The cast was ok (there was some bland teams, but some were pretty interesting: The Nuns, Jasmin/Jerome, Joey/Viv and Sid/Ash.)
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It turns out they were on different flights! WHY WHY WHY DID THE SHOW EDIT THIS OUT AND SAY THEY WERE ALL ON INE FLIGHT?!!! I’m so angry :furious:
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It turns out they were on different flights! WHY WHY WHY DID THE SHOW EDIT THIS OUT AND SAY THEY WERE ALL ON INE FLIGHT?!!! I’m so angry :furious:
That's what I was wondering. It felt like they were on 2 flights the way there were obviously two groups of teams racing together at the first task.
I think one of my complaints would be both Network Ten TARAus don't do a good job of giving a sense of time re: where teams are at. They essentially check in on teams from time to time. But it doesn't feel fluid? Not sure how to say it.
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I have to be consistent. I don't like the First Class Pass and teams skipping a Leg. So I can't be happy about Dwes & Katherine either. It's just a weird situation. On both counts.
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It turns out they were on different flights! WHY WHY WHY DID THE SHOW EDIT THIS OUT AND SAY THEY WERE ALL ON INE FLIGHT?!!! I’m so angry :furious:
That's what I was wondering. It felt like they were on 2 flights the way there were obviously two groups of teams racing together at the first task.
I think one of my complaints would be both Network Ten TARAus don't do a good job of giving a sense of time re: where teams are at. They essentially check in on teams from time to time. But it doesn't feel fluid? Not sure how to say it.
I agree with this. Sometimes the editing seems too choppy, and we don't really follow from team to team as we should. Given they have a 90-minute episode every time, I feel it isn't excusable. As for the First Class Pass skip and the Dwes & Katherine return, I have to say I am extremely disappointed. Especially given the penalty Jude & Shannon received from racing in the second leg, while Dwes & Katherine had nothing!
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The editing has been atrocious, especially in this past episode. We have only followed around 4-5 teams this entire episode, and we only saw the other racers when they were receiving their clue. I think part of the problem is the fact that there’s too many teams. I would rather watch a season with a normal number of teams and less episodes than watching a season with 14 teams and more episodes. In the first episode, I was really invested in the Filipino father and daughter team, but in these past 2 episodes, they had less than a minute of screen time. Also, so far, the team with the girl that has one arm has also not been shown much at all except for during the dirt bike racing roadblock (which TARCAN7 did a much better job of showing btw). Without having some focus on all teams in the episode, sometimes a team might jump a couple spots or go down a couple of spots, and we might not know what happened because the episode constantly focuses on the bottom 2 teams and top 2 teams. Also, I think part of the excitement of the episode is knowing how far along teams are through a challenge so that we can find out exactly what they have left. Having a graphic for how many solar panels a particular team has washed while they are on screen or having a graphic for how many bones each team has collected while they appear on screen could have given us a better idea of where teams are. The American and Canadian versions do a much better job of showing a team’s progress. I also did not like the first class pass. Throughout this episode I wanted to see the Sikhs do some of the challenges, and I wanted to know if they would have been strong enough to come on top again. The first class pass just secured their place at the top of the next leg without actually doing anything. Also, the lack of travel drama or drama with taxis just makes everything more stale.
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Airtime hasn't been an issue for me for the most part. After week 1 the only team to not have an average amount of airtime in one of the episodes is Sky-Blue and Jake imo
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:hiya, Racer05. :welcome: to the R.F.F.!
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I have really been enjoying it too. I’m from Canada so I’m used to the same country race. I also think the edit has been good. Like the parents were invisible in episode 1 but the main figures on 2&3. So everyone will have a time to shine especially with 24 Episodes or legs.
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Without having some focus on all teams in the episode, sometimes a team might jump a couple spots or go down a couple of spots, and we might not know what happened because the episode constantly focuses on the bottom 2 teams and top 2 teams.
OMG! This exactly. They really only focus on the leaders and the teams in danger of elimination. Everyone else is just either extra fodder who get thrown in if they have a funny moment or are completely invisible for most of the episode until they check-in at the Pit Stop.
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Not a fan of Dwes & Katherine returning (or any other team for that matter). Once you're out, you should be out. The twists are weird. First Class Pass, Sabotage & Salvage Team. What the? Trying to be Survivor. The editing is sloppy. Meh.
S.32 already left a very bad taste for me, it seems that TARAus 5 will do the same.
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These are all problems with modern TAR editing not just this season?
I think the problem is that for most seasons (US and International), the screentime is directly proportional to how well a team is doing. It's why consistently midpack teams are often not really focused on, and why teams that are either on the direct front and direct back of the pack get a lot of airtime. They are bookmarks to help the audience quickly identify who's in the lead and who's trailing.
The problem this season is that its "midpack" is inexplicably just a random mix of whoever is in 4th-10th. It's just weird seeing teams (Sefa & Jessica and Jobelle & Rani's edits being the biggest offenders after the premiere) suddenly get shafted by the edit simply because the former raced a bit poorly and the latter a bit better.
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Yes, but at least on TARUS, they actually show teams choosing the Detour, for example. Or choosing who does the Road Block and then proceeds to at least show the teams performing both.
So far on TARAu5, it feels like they don't even show every team arriving at each Route Marker. Which is pretty basic. They can show teams successively arriving, one after the other. Like in Leg 2, teams are suddenly leaving the lifeguard task, yet never even "arrived."
They also don't do a good job of showing where teams are with relation to each other. Even when they're at tasks and Route Markers at the same time. It's like each team is in its own little world unless they're clashing with each other (Mums/Holly & Dolor) or having fun (Mums/Malaan & Tina). And those 2 examples involve the Mums who were essentially Marked for Elimination anyway.
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The worst thing is that my expectations for the editing was so low due to Channel 10’s handling of Survivor that I think this is BETTER editing than Survivor lol :(
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The worst thing is that my expectations for the editing was so low due to Channel 10’s handling of Survivor that I think this is BETTER editing than Survivor lol :(
It is. At least no one has been completely invisible 3 episodes in (or more) like that franchise :funny:
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So this season's boot order will be basically all 8 MF teams being sandwiched between same gender teams, lol.
So who do you guys think is winning? Sikhs seems like obvious winners on the paper but I reaaalllyyy hope they will loose somehow because they are really bland and boring. I am actually glad there is this first class twist this season which means less legs of them because it's clear they will just keep winning these legs and dominating.
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It's annoying that they prefer to bunch up the teams during the leg rather than bunching them up before the start.
I don't like them being released in the order in which they arrived...
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I don't like them being released in the order in which they arrived...
I am not understanding this? Teams are always released in the order they arrive to the MAT, right?
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If teams end up in the same HOO departure timeslot, there's still a staggered release with a few minutes between teams based on their sign-up order.
Happens with the Pitstarts too. I think last season it was revealed the teams are released 2 minutes apart, based on check in order in the prior leg. Doesn't seem to matter if you beat another team to the mat by 30mins, you'll only be 2 minutes ahead at check out.
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If teams end up in the same HOO departure timeslot, there's still a staggered release with a few minutes between teams based on their sign-up order.
Happens with the Pitstarts too. I think last season it was revealed the teams are released 2 minutes apart, based on check in order in the prior leg. Doesn't seem to matter if you beat another team to the mat by 30mins, you'll only be 2 minutes ahead at check out.
Wow. I wondered about that when they were all bunched again. Very diff from TAR US!
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Having just binged the first six episodes, I have a quite a lot to say about this. Plus, with an impending homework assignment, this will be a nice procrastination exercise }:>
(Also, for some perspective, I'm from the US)
I'll start with this. I like this season. I mean, I really like this season. I'm probably the only one here who thinks this way, so I'll be the go-to cheerleader and explain why. I will do a pros and cons list, since this race isn't perfect, but I feel strongly that the pros outweigh the cons.
Let's start with the pros. First of all, I am very grateful that this season even happened in the first place. Pandemic FilmingTM is one hell of a burden, and the fact that production was able to put together a coherent race and preceded to air that race on television is, given our global circumstances, a remarkable feat. I do think production deserves a standing ovation, no matter how cheesy the final product turns out.
I also appreciate that production realizes this, and has decided to invent some new game twists. I do appreciate the idea of the Sabotage and Salvage Passes, and think these are unique and clever ideas, despite how these are implemented in-game (more on that later). Similarly, I think the T-Junction will be a unique addition. I think the fact that production went out on a limb to experiment with these twists is also commendable.
As an American, another thing I like about this is the route itself. In particular, I love how they are visiting parts of Australia that are (to me) quite new and unknown. If you had asked me to design a race that stayed in Australia, it would be quite boring - Sydney to Melbourne to Adelaide to Perth to Brisbane to Sydney, and maybe sprinkle in a leg in the outback, a leg in the Great Barrier Reef, and a leg in Tasmania. The end. But this race has shown me places that I would have never known about otherwise. Some of these places seem like off-the-beaten-path type of locations, and it's great to see them (this probably has a lot to do with the pandemic, and production aiming to avoid populated areas in general). More specifically, as someone who has lived in the desert their whole life (Arizona), I particularly enjoyed the beach and rainforest episodes! Now, if you are Australian and find this route to be boring, that is something I completely understand and can relate to. But since I'm not Australian, I probably like this route a lot more than Ten's intended audience, which is fair.
Probably my most controversial opinion yet: I quite enjoy the cast. I find each team to be really likeable and personable, despite some teams having less screen time (more on that later).
My final pro is something smaller. I really like how each episode starts with an Acknowledgment of Country. To my social justice warrior self, this feels really cute and thoughtful, and it's something small that goes a long way.
Now, let's talk about the cons. They aren't numerous, but they exist nonetheless. For one, the editing could be better. I understand that with 14 teams, it can be hard to give each team their fair share. At the same time, teams like Dwes and Katherine, Malaan and Tina and Chris and Aleisha feel completely neglected. This definitely feels like TAR32 editing, where the final 3 could easily have been guessed retrospectively given how much screen time they got. I suppose Dwes and Katherine are just the next Eswar and Aparna >:(
I mentioned earlier that I liked the concept of the salvage and sabotage. In practice, however, the idea is deflated. I like how Jordan put it at the end of episode 5 - "their logic seems like a cop-out". I still don't understand the logic of giving the team that got last the sabotage. The sabotage is neutered to become an honorary speed bump. Furthermore, shouldn't the salvage pass be used to significantly advantage the team to which it is given? If you think so, then that logic got thrown out the window with the elimination of Jobelle and Rani. Again, I think these new twists are quite clever on their own, but production might need to rethink how they are implemented in-game.
TLDR I like this season for numerous reasons, and think it deserves more love :luvya:
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There is MJ & Chelsea, our 15th team! Why add another new team when they weren't in the first place? It's so unfair for the moms to not given a second chance tho.
They should've told the moms to race again instead of adding a new team that wasn't in the starting line mat way back in Newell. :furious:
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This season already had (and will have) so many questionable and unfair twists that this one does not bother me that much, tbh.
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This season already had (and will have) so many questionable and unfair twists that this one does not bother me that much, tbh.
It's already a weird season, they might as well go all out lolol
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And in all honesty, considering how none of the intruders make the final leg, the twist is more palatable knowing that. Now if any of the intruder teams end up being the best team of the season, that will be a whole different story :funny:
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And in all honesty, considering how none of the intruders make the final leg, the twist is more palatable knowing that. Now if any of the intruder teams end up being the best team of the season, that will be a whole different story :funny:
How many intruder teams are there?
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And in all honesty, considering how none of the intruders make the final leg, the twist is more palatable knowing that. Now if any of the intruder teams end up being the best team of the season, that will be a whole different story :funny:
How many intruder teams are there?
I have a feeling we have 1 M/M, 1 F/F, and 1 M/F. But that's just a gut feel and not really actual speculation/spoilers.
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So there WAS a stowaway team after all.
I cant even anymore with these ever-changing "twists", it's confusing the hell out of me as a main editor of the TAR Fandom -_-
Before today I thought Canada had the worst TAR, now second-worst compared to this, at least their producers knew how to run their show. 10 rushed this season into production instead of waiting for the world to somewhat open again and clearly played it by ear from start to finish.
What a tragedy of a decline for the TAR version that 3 seasons ago produced the best non-US season ever and won an Emmy. Despite 10 refusing to acknowledge its existence.
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So there WAS a stowaway team after all.
I cant even anymore with these ever-changing "twists", it's confusing the hell out of me as a main editor of the TAR Fandom -_-
Before today I thought Canada had the worst TAR, now second-worst compared to this, at least their producers knew how to run their show. 10 rushed this season into production instead of waiting for the world to somewhat open again and clearly played it by ear from start to finish.
What a tragedy of a decline for the TAR version that 3 seasons ago produced the best non-US season ever and won an Emmy. Despite 10 refusing to acknowledge its existence.
We went from 11 teams and 12 legs to this mess in 2 seasons. Pretty fast change
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I’m liking this season than any TAR Canada from 3 onwards tbh
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I’m liking this season than any TAR Canada from 3 onwards tbh
I can't really complain about this season since its giving us our first TAR visits to both Tasmania and Canberra as well.
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I’m liking this season than any TAR Canada from 3 onwards tbh
I'd go as far as to say any TAR Australia after 2.
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They had golden opportunity to "vote out" clear winner contender team of Super Sikhs during T-Junction because their team lost but yeah it somehow end up with elimination of dancers or cousins. (not even cowboys) WTF is wrong with these people.
There is still posibility that maybe they did vote them out but there was some twist or NEL again which would be even worse, tbh.
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is i am only one love the new team
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is i am only one love the new team
I really like them too. I know people are mad that they joined late and its not their fault. They seem like fun and nice people who are excited to do the race.
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TARAu5 is a clusterfrak. It's almost like the first season by a production company that's never heard of The Amazing Race before. They literally (not literally) threw a bunch of ideas on a wall to see what sticks and everything ended up sticking. Then decided to throw more things at the well every other day as well.
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Team #16 is revealed (based off TAR Australia's Instagram following them and them revealing it) - Stan Turek & Wayne Marino, Bodybuilders.
Also while we're on it, especially considering how this season aired and was filmed during COVID times, I would like to say that it is deeply irresponsible for Ten to cast Stan.
Wayne seems fine and all on his Instagram but Stan based on his Instagram:
-Is a flat earther (follows flat earthers)
-Has posted COVID conspiracy theories and anti-government and anti-lockdown and anti-mask posts
-Has promoted anti-vaccination memes
-Has posted racist rhetoric about COVID ("kung flu", "drop the Chinese", "nuke China")
-Has posted transphobic videos about COVID
So yeah. Considering how this kind of rhetoric is everything that goes against the COVID-19 era, it's super irresponsible for Ten to give someone like this a platform.
Reposting this here. What the heck production?
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The fact that such behavior didn't get him dropped from the show (as most contracts have such provisions) is deeply disappointing. Seeing conspiracy go mainstream in the US has had some pretty disastrous consequences and Ten should know better than to have such guys on, no matter how "entertaining" they may be.
Hopefully their stint is short, for production's sake.
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Hopefully their stint is short, for production's sake.
Hopefully it is! The leg they entered in was filmed October 22.
He was back home by the first of November. His social media dropped off after October 16 and he posted a concrete photo of him back by the first week of November (no later than November 3).
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It's no wonder this season was so confusing for RFF to follow. This is barely feeling like TAR anymore...
TAR China did the Intruder thing once, but they handled it a little better. The intruder teams had to place high enough in the leg they came in or they wouldn't stay. That makes more sense than a 5 minute delayed start.
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If they wanted 16 teams, they should have just done the first leg TAR Israel style, in two groups over two episodes instead of this ridiculous stowaway teams.
Honestly, even just splitting the season up into two 8-team 12-leg seasons back to back would have been better
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It's no wonder this season was so confusing for RFF to follow. This is barely feeling like TAR anymore...
TAR China did the Intruder thing once, but they handled it a little better. The intruder teams had to place high enough in the leg they came in or they wouldn't stay. That makes more sense than a 5 minute delayed start.
This season was a pain for detectives. The intruders were on our radar but we couldn't confirm. There should only be 2 and they don't last that long iirc.
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How the boot order for 10th to 6th place will look like? Any idea?
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How the boot order for 10th to 6th place will look like? Any idea?
A ton of blanks, but here's some speculation: (based off social media activity + the South Australia promo)
-Holly & Dolor make it to Leg 12 (Sea Lions in Port Lincoln).
-The Tasmania sighting was on November 2. By then, Stan & Wayne (the new M/M intruders) have already been active on social media and interacting with people again.
-Stan & Wayne at least make it to the second leg this week since they're sighted running at the Stadium task from the South Australia promo. Ergo, I think they are eliminated on Leg 11 or 12 if we're going off timing.
-Violeta resurfaced on social media on November 9 and posted a photo from "Morocco".
TL;DR - We have nothing other than the second team of Intruders not being able to get very far from their starting point.
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I think the next 3 boots are cousins/dancers/Bodybuilders. (in Any order) Maybe of them sneaks in more but that's my feeling
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I am def feeling better about our not so great spoilers lol.
This Season is Impossible to sort out! :groan:
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TARAu accomplished something TAR32 did not.
TARAu is actually getting FB posts with more angry reactions than positive reactions. For all the hate TAR32 got, there were still people who inexplicably gave it a thumbs up on the Facebook posts more than those who were upset. :funny:
Anyway, it looks like Australia is not liking the TARAu5 experiment. Unless they force another Australia-only Race before the world opens up, I would be shocked if the try this nonsense again :funny:
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And yet this season is better than TAR32 in spite of the mess :)
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And yet this season is better than TAR32 in spite of the mess :)
Absolutely. I actually like these teams. And they actually compete. Can't say the same about TAR32 :funny:
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And yet this season is better than TAR32 in spite of the mess :)
Absolutely. I actually like these teams. And they actually compete. Can't say the same about TAR32 :funny:
Yes! It’s a mess but the teams casted are a whole lot better than half of teams casted on S.32
The only annoying team to watch is Holly & Dolor. But they won’t come close to the Final 5 of S.32
Gamer’s right there’s more than 1 intruders. Let’s see if a M/F Intruder Team enters. Feel bad for these teams as they wouldn’t get as much experience as compared to those that started in Leg 1
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Having just binged the first six episodes, I have a quite a lot to say about this. Plus, with an impending homework assignment, this will be a nice procrastination exercise }:>
(Also, for some perspective, I'm from the US)
I'll start with this. I like this season. I mean, I really like this season. I'm probably the only one here who thinks this way, so I'll be the go-to cheerleader and explain why. I will do a pros and cons list, since this race isn't perfect, but I feel strongly that the pros outweigh the cons.
Let's start with the pros. First of all, I am very grateful that this season even happened in the first place. Pandemic FilmingTM is one hell of a burden, and the fact that production was able to put together a coherent race and preceded to air that race on television is, given our global circumstances, a remarkable feat. I do think production deserves a standing ovation, no matter how cheesy the final product turns out.
I also appreciate that production realizes this, and has decided to invent some new game twists. I do appreciate the idea of the Sabotage and Salvage Passes, and think these are unique and clever ideas, despite how these are implemented in-game (more on that later). Similarly, I think the T-Junction will be a unique addition. I think the fact that production went out on a limb to experiment with these twists is also commendable.
As an American, another thing I like about this is the route itself. In particular, I love how they are visiting parts of Australia that are (to me) quite new and unknown. If you had asked me to design a race that stayed in Australia, it would be quite boring - Sydney to Melbourne to Adelaide to Perth to Brisbane to Sydney, and maybe sprinkle in a leg in the outback, a leg in the Great Barrier Reef, and a leg in Tasmania. The end. But this race has shown me places that I would have never known about otherwise. Some of these places seem like off-the-beaten-path type of locations, and it's great to see them (this probably has a lot to do with the pandemic, and production aiming to avoid populated areas in general). More specifically, as someone who has lived in the desert their whole life (Arizona), I particularly enjoyed the beach and rainforest episodes! Now, if you are Australian and find this route to be boring, that is something I completely understand and can relate to. But since I'm not Australian, I probably like this route a lot more than Ten's intended audience, which is fair.
Probably my most controversial opinion yet: I quite enjoy the cast. I find each team to be really likeable and personable, despite some teams having less screen time (more on that later).
My final pro is something smaller. I really like how each episode starts with an Acknowledgment of Country. To my social justice warrior self, this feels really cute and thoughtful, and it's something small that goes a long way.
Now, let's talk about the cons. They aren't numerous, but they exist nonetheless. For one, the editing could be better. I understand that with 14 teams, it can be hard to give each team their fair share. At the same time, teams like Dwes and Katherine, Malaan and Tina and Chris and Aleisha feel completely neglected. This definitely feels like TAR32 editing, where the final 3 could easily have been guessed retrospectively given how much screen time they got. I suppose Dwes and Katherine are just the next Eswar and Aparna >:(
I mentioned earlier that I liked the concept of the salvage and sabotage. In practice, however, the idea is deflated. I like how Jordan put it at the end of episode 5 - "their logic seems like a cop-out". I still don't understand the logic of giving the team that got last the sabotage. The sabotage is neutered to become an honorary speed bump. Furthermore, shouldn't the salvage pass be used to significantly advantage the team to which it is given? If you think so, then that logic got thrown out the window with the elimination of Jobelle and Rani. Again, I think these new twists are quite clever on their own, but production might need to rethink how they are implemented in-game.
TLDR I like this season for numerous reasons, and think it deserves more love :luvya:
For the record. I made this post before the arrival of the stowaways. Yikes.
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Sucks to see the intruders. While this happens, Sefa & Jessica are gone.
I'm loving to see Dolor. He is actually funny and the show would lose lots of fun without him.
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Now that they've introduced another stowaway team, I find myself wondering if we will see stowaway teams every 2 or 3 legs all the way to the final 3 or 4.
:groan:
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Now that they've introduced another stowaway team, I find myself wondering if we will see stowaway teams every 2 or 3 legs all the way to the final 3 or 4.
:groan:
I think it will be just one more M/F stowaway if so.
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Also just realized one thing - it's been five whole legs since it happened. What on earth was that Brains or Brawn decision at the abseiling Roadblock supposed to be? :funny:
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Now that they've introduced another stowaway team, I find myself wondering if we will see stowaway teams every 2 or 3 legs all the way to the final 3 or 4.
:groan:
I think it will be just one more M/F stowaway if so.
Not sure where to ask this, but where did we get the assumption that there will be a third stowaway? And how do we know it'll be a M/F team?
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Now that they've introduced another stowaway team, I find myself wondering if we will see stowaway teams every 2 or 3 legs all the way to the final 3 or 4.
:groan:
I think it will be just one more M/F stowaway if so.
Not sure where to ask this, but where did we get the assumption that there will be a third stowaway? And how do we know it'll be a M/F team?
Just my own personal dumb speculation. If this really is 24 legs and we assume the stowaways enter on the first leg of the week aired:
Leg 10: Stan & Wayne enter, one team eliminated. 9 teams remain.
Leg 11: NEL
Leg 12: EL. 8 teams remain.
Leg 13: Potential Stowaways enter, one team eliminated. 8 teams remain.
Leg 14/16/18/20/22: NEL
Leg 15/17/19/21: EL. Four teams are eliminated.
Leg 23: One team eliminated. 3 teams remain.
Leg 24: Finale
I really doubt we'd get an extra NEL in there instead of a third stowaway team. And it would make sense to have one of each team composition (M/M, F/F, M/F). Furthermore, I believe we could potentially be saying goodbye to the First Place Pass twist soon. It would seem stupidly unfair for the endgame of this season to have a team skip a leg and have Sabotage/Salvages.
But then again who knows with this season? :funny:
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Just my own personal dumb speculation. If this really is 24 legs and we assume the stowaways enter on the first leg of the week aired:
Leg 10: Stan & Wayne enter, one team eliminated. 9 teams remain.
Leg 11: NEL
Leg 12: EL. 8 teams remain.
Leg 13: Potential Stowaways enter, one team eliminated. 8 teams remain.
Leg 14/16/18/20/22: NEL
Leg 15/17/19/21: EL. Four teams are eliminated.
Leg 23: One team eliminated. 3 teams remain.
Leg 24: Finale
I really doubt we'd get an extra NEL in there instead of a third stowaway team. And it would make sense to have one of each team composition (M/M, F/F, M/F). Furthermore, I believe we could potentially be saying goodbye to the First Place Pass twist soon. It would seem stupidly unfair for the endgame of this season to have a team skip a leg and have Sabotage/Salvages.
But then again who knows with this season? :funny:
I see. That makes sense from what you're saying.
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Also just realized one thing - it's been five whole legs since it happened. What on earth was that Brains or Brawn decision at the abseiling Roadblock supposed to be? :funny:
Yeah now we have two teams who were not there when it happened... and 3 teams who were eliminated lol
Maybe it was for one of the unaired tasks?
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Also just realized one thing - it's been five whole legs since it happened. What on earth was that Brains or Brawn decision at the abseiling Roadblock supposed to be? :funny:
Yeah now we have two teams who were not there when it happened... and 3 teams who were eliminated lol
Maybe it was for one of the unaired tasks?
If that's the case I imagine that they wouldn't have aired the task in the first place. The task would probably have just been the abseiling if so.
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Brains/Brawn is mentioned in one of next week's episode descriptions.
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It's basically a glorified Blind Detour, from the looks of things.
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So out of the many neat locations we’ve had so far these 13 legs, my least favorite location by far has been Mossman. Who’s the genius who thought that would make a good season premier location?
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So out of the many neat locations we’ve had so far these 13 legs, my least favorite location by far has been Mossman. Who’s the genius who thought that would make a good season premier location?
And the tasks as well :funny: :funny: :funny:
Apparently the best thing to do on your first leg of your big adventure is to peel shrimp.
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Episode 14 triggered TAR32 flashbacks and I hated that feeling so much. And considering who makes final 3. :zz:
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Do we know how far Chris & Aleisha/Holly & Dolor get? After today's news about the bullying and inaccurate editing going on behind the scenes, they're the only two teams left I care about and once they're gone, it will be very hard for me to keep an interest in this season lol.
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Do we know how far Chris & Aleisha/Holly & Dolor get? After today's news about the bullying and inaccurate editing going on behind the scenes, they're the only two teams left I care about and once they're gone, it will be very hard for me to keep an interest in this season lol.
Whatttt? What did you hear?
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Too many NELs! This is quite boring.
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Do we know how far Chris & Aleisha/Holly & Dolor get? After today's news about the bullying and inaccurate editing going on behind the scenes, they're the only two teams left I care about and once they're gone, it will be very hard for me to keep an interest in this season lol.
Chris & Aleisha last seen Leg 23.
Holly & Dolor last seen Leg 15.
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Do we know how far Chris & Aleisha/Holly & Dolor get? After today's news about the bullying and inaccurate editing going on behind the scenes, they're the only two teams left I care about and once they're gone, it will be very hard for me to keep an interest in this season lol.
Chris & Aleisha last seen Leg 23.
Holly & Dolor last seen Leg 15.
I don't think that's exactly right for Chris & Aleisha.
We saw them in Gulgong on November 10. Then we heard of a Broken Hill leg after. Then Canberra on the 14th with our "Final Three".
If Beau is to be believed and this season ends in Sydney (Canberra actually being a Final Four leg), that would make Chris & Aleisha's final sighting Leg 21 or 20 at best.
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Do we know how far Chris & Aleisha/Holly & Dolor get? After today's news about the bullying and inaccurate editing going on behind the scenes, they're the only two teams left I care about and once they're gone, it will be very hard for me to keep an interest in this season lol.
Whatttt? What did you hear?
Chris made a bunch of Tweets yesterday talking about behind the scenes drama. This Reddit post sums it up pretty well:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheAmazingRace/comments/lve1qh/on_twitter_spilling_major_tea_on_the_drama/
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The animosity toward Chris & Aleisha is really out of nowhere, tbh. They mind their own business based on what's been shown in the episodes. But we already had both Amanda & Ashleigh and Skye-Blue express negative opinions on them. (They mooched off their skate ramp assembly. They're "fake") And they get Sabotaged over a Stowaway team.
I'm glad they make it far. And possibly Final 4 at best, if I understand correctly?
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The animosity toward Chris & Aleisha is really out of nowhere, tbh. They mind their own business based on what's been shown in the episodes. But we already had both Amanda & Ashleigh and Skye-Blue express negative opinions on them. (They mooched off their skate ramp assembly. They're "fake") And they get Sabotaged over a Stowaway team.
I'm glad they make it far. And possibly Final 4 at best, if I understand correctly?
Possibly even Final 3 if Canberra really isn't our finale :waves:
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Ooo! I'll set my expectations unreasonably high then and set myself up for disappointment and assume the post-Race drama or whatever are because the Originals end up not being as successful as the True Alliance on TAR32 :funny:
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This season has soo much behind the scenes drama going on.. 😬
On top of my posts from a few weeks ago, some of the cast appeared to recently be making fun of Chris & Aleisha and their dietary restrictions on social media.
Now it turns out that during the race, the teams in the alliance were breaking rules by using the telephone in the hotel rooms the racers stayed at overnight in the Darwin legs and were calling the other teams trying to make deals to U-Turn Chris & Aleisha and Holly & Dolor. That is EXPLICITLY against the rules of the show. This is now being confirmed by Aleisha's sister who has started posting on Reddit.
Aleisha's sister also started posting about some other social media bullying going on, to the point that, Amanda herself, made a Reddit account to defend herself. And now the two of them are going back and forth and arguing on Reddit. 🥴
That's not to mention the rumors (not verified at all, but I've seen it mentioned in several places) that there was an actual physical fight involving racers from this season. Yikes.
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On top of my posts from a few weeks ago, some of the cast appeared to recently be making fun of Chris & Aleisha and their dietary restrictions on social media.
Not just appeared to. They were.
Anurag posted a snarky tweet about "Are oysters vegan" and then even when other people (including Chris) replied to him, he still posted the same line on his Insta story with "They don't have nervous systems". It was also reposted by a few of the other teams.
And then after the episode aired they were liking hate IG comments on Chris & Aleisha. Then three teams in the group (everyone but Brendon & Jackson) posted a story about "CHAMPIONS NEVER QUIT!!!!!" or something like that. Brendon posted a post on Insta talking about not judging Chris & Aleisha for their beliefs but Jackson has been liking isolated hate comments about Chris & Aleisha.
Just yikes lol.
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It's sad to hear all of that. I expect such toxicity from fans (and there's been plenty on social media especially against C&A), but the teams themselves? Disappointing.
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Well, i have some points to add to the discussion:
- as i said before (like TAR32), alliances are not against the rules, you're not doing anything wrong, but it really sucks for us, viewers.
I'm keeping my point even though i like the alliance members and dislike Chris/Aleisha.
- "breaking rules by using the telephones in the hotel"
- is this a rule?
- was the production of the show really aware of that?
- could the production of the show do anything about it?
- is our only source Aleisha's sister?
Anyways, so many questions before we judge it for real.
About bullying behind the cameras, it's awful and a bad attitude from the racers.
Even if you dislike someone, the least you can do is be friendly, avoid confrontation if you want to and make your choices.
Nothing wrong with helping out your friends (i don't like it but its not against the rules) or U-Turning, Sabotaging anyone a thousand times if you want to. That's the game.
Anything else that is part of the game, it's part of the game. You just deal with it.
But bullying really isn't nice.
I really hope this is fake news and if it's true, shame on all racers who did this.
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I haven't seen everything posted, but a lot of the shade and stuff like that, at the very least, is all public. Posted on their IGs, exchanges on Twitter and even in a TARAu FB group apparently. And this is the Racers themselves posting. Even the early boot teams have tweeted and liked tweets of varying degrees of vagueness implying there's definitely smoke here. And of course, when there's smoke...
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How sad. Even earlier today i was thinking this was the best cast ever.
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Yes it's a rule that teams can't communicate without cameras being there. They usually remove all phones, clocks, TVs etc from hotel rooms to stop teams even having a whiff of being able to communicate.
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The fact that so much happened in Darwin is incredible. To us, with three episodes each week, the race is quite fast, but between the Pit Stop at Darwin and the Blue Mountains, 13 legs have taken place- roughly three weeks of racing and isolation.
The race is already exhausting, but to just stop for a moment and appreciate the mental toll this must have taken gives a lot of insight into race dynamics. I can't imagine how Chris and Aleisha handled it and frankly, I'd have said something a lot sooner than the Pit Stop after the oyster Intersection were I in their shoes.
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Also worth noting they didn't get spa days and fancy meals and day trips to relax and unwind either.
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Now, onto their performance on the race: Ashleigh & Amanda deserve to win this.
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To add fuel to the fire after the recent episode - every team in the group taking thinly veiled shots at Chris & Aleisha and liking anti them tweets and Instagram comments.
Absolutely awful. I can only imagine this is how TAR32 might have been against the outsiders if the teams didn't have a year to let bygones be bygones and buddy up.
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Ashleigh: We want to be in the game with people who don't hinder other people's progress in the game.
Works with two teams who have hindered other teams' progress in the game.
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How amazing would it be if Chris & Aleisha miraculously won the leg in Broken Hill, received the FCP so they weren't spotted in Canberra.
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9 NELs ~so far.
I can't stand this anymore.
Also, it's hard to like any team at the moment. I don't like Chris/Aleisha either, and can't stand the ones who, according to various sources, are bullying them.
What a shame of an ending. I loved the girls and the cowboys and also thought the sihks to be super nice guys.