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Archive => Survivor 40: Winners At War => Topic started by: georgiapeach on May 13, 2020, 09:49:08 AM

Title: Survivor 40 FINALE-LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION HERE!
Post by: georgiapeach on May 13, 2020, 09:49:08 AM
Tonights the night we have all been waiting for! This complex well played season will finish tonight.

Hope you all will join us here for the fun! 3 Hours!

If anyone is so inclined to update...Please do!!

See you tonight! 8-11PM EST :waves:
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 13, 2020, 07:14:11 PM
Highlights only...SPOILERS!!
Stop here if you don't want to know,
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 13, 2020, 07:15:40 PM
RETURNING TO THE GAME!


Show content
NATALIE!!!
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 08:07:44 PM
Natalie shaking things up at tribal council!!!!!!!!

The jury all look so fresh!

Nat plays her idol.

Tony plays his idol too.

Ben plays his idol too.

You can only vote for Denise and Sarah.

If there's a tie, it's a fire making challenge!
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 08:09:34 PM
Tony wasted his idol. :)x

REVOTE
DENISE
DENISE
DENISE

Wow. They didn't even bother to give DENISE a chance. Guess they knew they had no chance against Denise.
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 08:13:11 PM
I don't get it. How can Nat and Michele not even bother to give Denise a chance? There was no way Sarah would flip against Tony.

I guess that was the pivotal moment of this season why they won't win.
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 08:14:27 PM
Tony searching for IDOL. Guess he's finding it.
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 08:15:41 PM
WTF NAT FOUND THE IDOL :lol: AT FINAL 5.

AND MICHELE IS AGAIN PEOPLE'S CONFIDANTE.
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 08:17:26 PM
I AM ROOTING FOR NAT 100%, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW SHE'S NOT WINNING AGAINST TONY 100% :funny:
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 08:21:18 PM
Final 5 immunity!

I am so glad BEN has no idol. Tony has no idol. And Sarah has no CLUE what's happening. :funny:
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 08:23:30 PM
Nat has her key

Ben

Sarah

Tony

Michele's last...

Oh no!

NAT IS A CHALLENGE BEAST :cheer:
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 08:25:19 PM
TONY WINS IMMUNITY LOL. :groan:
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 08:27:14 PM
That's another pivotal moment. If Tony didn't win this, he's definitely in trouble.  :lol:
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 08:29:06 PM
I don't get it. How can Nat and Michele not even bother to give Denise a chance? There was no way Sarah would flip against Tony.

I guess that was the pivotal moment of this season why they won't win.

Seriously, I'm still harping on this. It could have been a jury vote moment!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 08:35:46 PM
Tony's going to the spy nest, and sending Sarah to get info.

Sarah and Nat talks. Sarah knows Nat has an idol.
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 08:37:49 PM
BEN HAS PTSD FROM SURVIVOR?

How can you give people permission to vote you out?? I'm so confused with this Final 5. :duno:
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 08:41:10 PM
Okay so before tribal.
 
Nat and Mich are together

Tony and Ben and Sarah are together

Nat and Mich wants Ben gone

Tony/Ben/Sarah wants to vote Mich cause they know she's not safe at all

However, Ben suddenly gives permission to Sarah to vote him out

This means that things will be safe if Sarah just goes with Nat and Mich

IM SO EXCITED WHO GOES HOME.

I think Ben's dead, Sarah will vote him out.
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 08:47:09 PM
We are voting at tribal!

BEN

MICHELE

BEN

MICHELE

BEN
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 08:48:48 PM
That wasn't such a winning moment for Nat. I get why she would play it for herself, but I wished she played it for Michele. Would have upped her jury game.

If you give people permission to vote you out, they would do it.

Michele is still here, and I'm like... WOW. :cheer:

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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 08:55:38 PM
FINAL 4 IMMUNITY!!!!!!!!!!!!

TONY IS OUT. NO SHOT AT IMMUNITY!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 08:56:29 PM
"It's n all-encompassing challenge of the human spirit"

Come on Jeff, don't be such a drama.
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 08:58:50 PM
NATALIE WINS INDIVIDUAL IMMUNITY <333333333333333333333333333
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 09:00:04 PM
Tony and Sarah are definitely making fire. :lol: }:>

And of course, Sarah won't win because Tony would have trained like a million years.
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 09:00:50 PM
I think we might have a close winner between Tony and Nat, with most of the early edge voting Nat.

And then most of the post game voting Tony, because NOBODY got rid of him :funny:
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 09:12:56 PM
Tony VS Sarah at fire

Michele being shocked to bring to F3 lol

I think that was a good season arc. :lol:

I didn't like it that Nat was talking and Sarah just coughed to disagree. Dude, Nat wasn't going to take the position to beat Tony. :jam: :clap2:
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 09:22:40 PM
Tony wins fire and what an emotional speech for her to know it's okay to be out, and get something valuable from this experience.
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 09:24:43 PM
Tony has to win this game. Final 3, no votes against him.

Sorry Nat, I'm rooting for you. BUT Tony has to win this game for it not to become an Edge of Extinction farce. :conf:
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 09:28:58 PM
PREDICTIONS

Amber - Nat
Danni - Nat
Ethan - Nat
Rob - Tony
Parvati - Nat/Tony
Yul - Tony
Wendell - Michele/Tony
Adam - Tony
Tyson - Nat
Sophie - Tony
Kim - Tony
Jeremy - Nat
Nick - Michele/Tony
Denise - Tony
Ben - Tony
Sarah - Tony
Title: Re: Survivor 40 FINALE-LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION HERE!
Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 09:32:06 PM
Tony wants to be the King of Survivor. :lol: I think he's getting it!!! :clap2:
Title: Re: Survivor 40 FINALE-LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION HERE!
Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 09:40:30 PM
Michele is obviously not getting a lot of votes. :'(
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 09:48:58 PM
Wow, this is the first time I felt the Final 3 all showed they deserved to win. This could be one of the best F3. :)x :2hearts:

Sophie didn't talk at all! :'(

Michele's arguments are good. She made it a point that she had small alliances.
Tony I felt didn't really argue well, but he made his point that he made it to the end without votes.
Natalie had a chance to explain all her advantages.

It was emotional. Everyone clapped for the final 3, and they were happy. I can come to terms with that!!
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 09:55:34 PM
ROB - TONY
PARV - NAT
BEN - TONY
And we have one more vote for Nat, was it from Adam or Tyson
Title: Re: Survivor 40 FINALE-LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION HERE!
Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 09:58:26 PM
FIRST VOTE - TONY

2ND - NAT

3RD - NAT

4TH - TONY

5TH - NAT

6TH - TONY

7TH - NAT

8TH - TONY

9TH - TONY

10TH - TONY

11TH - TONY

12TH - TONY

13TH - TONY

I guess Nat gets 4 votes only and Michele got none.
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 10:00:32 PM
Parv
Jeremy
Ethan
Tyson

voted NAT

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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 10:03:24 PM
OKAY. Guess we are done. I can come to terms with this season. Tony did play the best game.

Nat's fatal move was not to go against Tony at fire making. (Which she wouldn't have guessed Tony really played a strong game whole season)

Michele just couldn't do anything, but I believe she played a good game. Still not a top tier winner (sorry!). But I love her personality!

CIAO EVERYONE.
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Post by: Pi/ on May 13, 2020, 10:40:22 PM
Thanks for doing the updates, Jobby!
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 13, 2020, 10:50:31 PM
Thank you so much Jobby!!

WHAT a season...got me reinterested in Survivor. One of the best ones ever really!

Hopefully damn Covid will let us film again soon...
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Post by: Jobby on May 13, 2020, 10:54:50 PM
Here's a few things I hope will get picked up by SURVIVOR (i know hardly, but who knows):

1. If you want to have fire tokens and EoE, you must let the people who get voted out keep their tokens. Otherwise, the most recent vote outs go to Extinction without any tokens to buy advantages for the challenges.

2. If you want to have fire tokens to be won on Extinction, it needs to be a fair chance for all. For example, a clue given, and all go and search for it. (the one that Boston Rob found three was something like it, but the hiding spots were so lame) Or something ridiculously difficult, like dig on the beach for fire tokens. A few to be found, but without clues. That way, it will definitely be completely luck and not just a, oh I found it on a rock thing.

3. If you want to play with fire tokens IN THE GAME, there needs to be a chance for people to buy advantages from their fire tokens. People like Kim, Denise etc. all went out without fire tokens playing a role in their game much towards the end. They can't buy advantages at challenges etc. At the very least, let them buy an advantage with 2 fire tokens, let them buy a clue to a HII with fire tokens. Instead of, peanut butter or pillows and comfort.

4. Back to the point on HII. Stop hiding it at random places (except at Final 5 if you have to), make people buy it with fire tokens. If there's no more fire tokens in the game due to it ceasing effect on Day 32/34, then make it real hard, like when it was in Second Chance. Kelley Wentworth found a clue, and had to find an opportunity to get it, TWICE. Or, reveal a clue at Reward, and have everyone scramble back at camp.

5. The fire challenge at F4. I guess it has to change soon. It's getting predictable and easy. I'll rather it be just a random challenge they want to re-use or something like that. I don't know, add a twist or an element. Something even as daring as getting the jury to vote off one player from the F4 for their most deserving F3. That way it adds another layer to the game, that you cannot just play a ridiculous game and hope to be brought to F3. Do something big, Survivor! (but please tell the Survivors before hand so that they know what they are in for)

Basically, I know it's the first time fire tokens come to play, but it has been disappointing. It didn't really create an economy. It was just advantages with now one more layer of meaning to it. I mean, if Sandra looks back at this season and how lame the fire tokens have been, she wouldn't have strike a deal with Denise lol.
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Post by: Lmh1988 on May 13, 2020, 11:44:57 PM
I know it will never change back, but I’ve never been a fan of the final 3. I think it should be a final two as in the early days. I like the aspect of the person who wins the final immunity deciding on the one and only person to sit next to them at jury. The fire making challenge is exciting to watch but I’d just prefer something more strategic like before.
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Post by: Hubickichibi on May 14, 2020, 04:10:39 AM
We got a new king of survivor (https://cutekawaiiresources.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/yoyo08.gif?w=150&h=150)
congratz llama master (https://cutekawaiiresources.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/yociexp108.gif?w=150&h=150)
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Post by: TARUSAFan on May 14, 2020, 04:21:27 AM
A satisfying end! Happy with the result. The early boot order though was atrocious.
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Post by: Hubickichibi on May 14, 2020, 04:47:49 AM
Agreed, the llama master is the best winner for this season (https://cutekawaiiresources.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/yoyo17.gif?w=150&h=150)
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Post by: Nuku on May 14, 2020, 08:57:53 AM
Well deserved win Tony!
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Post by: HavaDrPepper on May 14, 2020, 11:37:41 AM
I enjoyed the season. Not a fan of Tony but he absolutely deserved this win.

Natalie played hard but coming from EOE hurt her especially after Rob brought out the fact that she isolated herself from the others that last week.  Poor jury management in my opinion.  3 of the 4 votes she got were from her original tribe. Tyson.... duh peanut butter alliance.

Had Natalie done fire against Tony and beat him, she could have had Rob's vote. He basically said it... she didn't take out Tony.  But, I'm not sure if she would have won. I think the vote might have been closer between her and Sarah. Still think Michele would have zero votes.  People like her but I don't think they think a whole lot of her game.

The other thing is if it would have been Sarah in  the F3 with her and Tony, I could have seen a split in the votes between Tony/Sarah giving Natalie a better chance to win. I could see someone throwing their votes to Natalie if they couldn't decide between Tony and Sarah!

I also enjoyed the Ponderosa videos.  Quite a few of them have said their survivor journey is done. They are retired and they wouldn't trade a minute of it for anything.  My favorite though is Ethan.  As he said, he is no longer a "survivor", he is a "thriver".   And, as Sarah said... I didn't lose $2 million because I never had $2 million.
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Post by: Hubickichibi on May 14, 2020, 08:07:36 PM
S40 is the best ever for heartwarming drama scenes, they deserve an emmy (https://cutekawaiiresources.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/117.gif?w=560)
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Post by: redskevin88 on May 16, 2020, 11:16:49 PM
Just wondering what video conferencing program they used in the finale? I'm guessing Zoom.
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Post by: TARUSAFan on May 17, 2020, 10:25:06 AM
I enjoyed the season. Not a fan of Tony but he absolutely deserved this win.

Natalie played hard but coming from EOE hurt her especially after Rob brought out the fact that she isolated herself from the others that last week.  Poor jury management in my opinion.  3 of the 4 votes she got were from her original tribe. Tyson.... duh peanut butter alliance.

Had Natalie done fire against Tony and beat him, she could have had Rob's vote. He basically said it... she didn't take out Tony.  But, I'm not sure if she would have won. I think the vote might have been closer between her and Sarah. Still think Michele would have zero votes.  People like her but I don't think they think a whole lot of her game.

The other thing is if it would have been Sarah in  the F3 with her and Tony, I could have seen a split in the votes between Tony/Sarah giving Natalie a better chance to win. I could see someone throwing their votes to Natalie if they couldn't decide between Tony and Sarah!

I also enjoyed the Ponderosa videos.  Quite a few of them have said their survivor journey is done. They are retired and they wouldn't trade a minute of it for anything.  My favorite though is Ethan.  As he said, he is no longer a "survivor", he is a "thriver".   And, as Sarah said... I didn't lose $2 million because I never had $2 million.


Just watched the Ponderosa videos...
I was quite saddened when some of them said their journey on Survivor is done but yeah, that is life. They're now heading to retirement.
I was happy seeing Parvati, Yul, Amber, Sophie, Kim, Tyson, Ethan, Danni Rob, Sandra, the old-school players as I've enjoyed watching their seasons.
I wanted more from them on the game like all of them making the merge....
How I wish they got Aras, Fabio, Tina, Jenna on as well..... oh well, on to the next season!
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Post by: Lmh1988 on May 18, 2020, 11:32:07 AM

How I wish they got Aras, Fabio, Tina, Jenna on as well..... oh well, on to the next season!

Jenna has sadly struggled with drug addiction over the last few years, I haven’t read recently how she is doing now (hopefully better), but I assume they were concerned she wasn’t well enough to play Survivor again and that’s why she wasn’t asked.

Tina however, especially as the first ever female winner, should have absolutely been asked and I think it’s a giant shame she was left out.
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Post by: redwings8831 on May 18, 2020, 02:49:42 PM
I know it will never change back, but I’ve never been a fan of the final 3. I think it should be a final two as in the early days. I like the aspect of the person who wins the final immunity deciding on the one and only person to sit next to them at jury. The fire making challenge is exciting to watch but I’d just prefer something more strategic like before.

If they want to keep the fire making, go back to a final two and have fire between the two that lose F3 immunity.
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Post by: Jimmer on May 18, 2020, 08:52:18 PM
I know it will never change back, but I’ve never been a fan of the final 3. I think it should be a final two as in the early days. I like the aspect of the person who wins the final immunity deciding on the one and only person to sit next to them at jury. The fire making challenge is exciting to watch but I’d just prefer something more strategic like before.

If they want to keep the fire making, go back to a final two and have fire between the two that lose F3 immunity.

Wouldn't that risk the possibility of 2 fire-making challenges in a single season/finale episode if it's a 2-2 split in the Final 4? I'm not sure if I would be a fan of that.

Honestly I'm fine with a Final 3 but with a normal vote in the Final 4 (with a possibility of fire making if it's a tie). I'm just not a fan of the forced Final 4 fire making, mainly because that means that last vote is at Final 5, which is just way too early in my opinion.
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Post by: Jobby on May 18, 2020, 11:32:39 PM
Ask Cirie about it, making fire at F4, voted out at F3.. Imagine if all these twists were on back then.
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Post by: Hubickichibi on May 21, 2020, 04:30:21 AM
Tony shark doo doo doo doo (https://cutekawaiiresources.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/yoyo02.gif?w=150&h=150)
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Post by: Musicon on May 22, 2020, 08:17:33 AM
I know it will never change back, but I’ve never been a fan of the final 3. I think it should be a final two as in the early days. I like the aspect of the person who wins the final immunity deciding on the one and only person to sit next to them at jury. The fire making challenge is exciting to watch but I’d just prefer something more strategic like before.

Someone deciding the final 2 is definitely much more high stakes. 

The fire challenge should definitely have stayed as the final tie breaker, it made it something more special and rare. 

I also preferred when they had a final tribal where each person got up and had a question/statement in turn.  It was more real and direct now it can feel more artificial.  If it isn't broke don't fix it.