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Archive => RFF Archived Boards => The Amazing Race 29 => Topic started by: TheRabbi on March 31, 2017, 09:43:08 AM
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Episode 1 should be hitting the wire shortly....here's hoping it's the first step towards securing a TAR30
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0.9 rating in the demo and 4.3 mil viewers, series lows on both counts. Not good by any stretch of the imagination.
Source: showbuzz daily
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0.9 rating in the demo and 4.3 mil viewers, series lows on both counts. Not good by any stretch of the imagination.
Source: showbuzz daily
Not bad at all, its direct competitors The Catch (ABC) and The Blacklist: Redemption (NBC) having smaller margin ratings.
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For what it's worth, The Big Bang Theory hit a series low.
Really down night. What's good is we won the timeslot.
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1.0
Isn't bad at 10pm on Thursdays
And the fact that this is the LIVE ratings before DVR numbers are added
Season 30 here we come!-:)
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Obviously we wanted more. However there are positives. Winning its time slot was good.
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1.0
Isn't bad at 10pm on Thursdays
And the fact that this is the LIVE ratings before DVR numbers are added
Season 30 here we come!-:)
The 0.9/3 rating/share included Live+Same Day DVR
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Sorry
Meant +3
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+3 will be interesting to see and all, but it generally doesn't really sway the needle. Generally the rich get richer (biggest gainers are always Walking dead, Empire, Grey's anatomy, etc). Its usually pretty comparable to the same day ratings.
Also keep in mind that the premieres are generally the high points of seasons, and once the buzz dies down, so will ratings. Theres no room left for TAR to drop. Hell, the CBS show Doubt got yanked after 2 episodes with around a .6 or .7. So we need to stay steady.
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It's certainly lower than we were hoping, and I'm not giving up on a rebound, but our best options going forward may be to hope for TAR to be either a summer show or move to CBS All Access.
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The show was rushed to air so maybe people haven't found it in it's new slot. Maybe (and this is being hopeful) it can increase in raitings in the weeks to come.
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Here's a somewhat hopeful spin from the tvbythenumbers ratings story.
“The Amazing Race” premiered to a 0.9, a little above average for the time period so far this season.”
I'd say that and winning the time slot are good things. Hopefully people recorded it will be be watching in the next few days. I watched it live and recorded it. I'll watch it again just in case that will get counted twice.
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I'm hoping TAR goes back to its glory days.
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I'd say that and winning the time slot are good things. Hopefully people recorded it will be be watching in the next few days. I watched it live and recorded it. I'll watch it again just in case that will get counted twice.
It'll be counted twice....if you're a Nielsen home. For anyone who is NOT a Nielsen viewer (probably almost all of us), the best way to help out is to watch on CBS's site, as those streams are absolutely counted.
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:adevil
MacGyver also earned a 0.9 this week.
Airing at 8pm Friday
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A 0.9 is not ideal BUT it is very interesting that we basically got TAR28 numbers after A YEAR off the air.
And, despite them usually being whiny annoyances about anything and everything, Facebook casuals seem to love this season so far so *shrugs*
I also noticed that the new promos flash the timeslot in the middle of the screen the whole time, which is good to bring awareness as some might not catch the quick 2-second "Thursday 10 PM" at the end of the original promos.
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Kinda liked the first episode tbh. Last season was kinda meh for me so hope they get it together for this one.
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:hiya, RFFChris! :bigwelcome to the R.F.F.!
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The most important thing is we won our time slot. The actual #'s are less important. :)
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http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/thursday-final-ratings-march-30-2017/ (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/thursday-final-ratings-march-30-2017/)
I'm not sure this is anything new but this ratings article says it has adjusted ratings for last Thursday night. For the 10 o'clock hour, none of the shows (including TAR) had any adjustments. The weird thing is that this article was date stamped Friday the 31st and the adjusted ratings don't come out for a few days. In fact I looked for adjusted ratings yesterday and didn't see this article. So, I'm wondering if they just rewrote the original ratings article from last Friday without changing the date. Or maybe I was too dense to notice the adjustment info last week.
Anyway, no change to TAR's originally reported ratings.
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Preliminary ratings are released around 11 am eastern time, and final ratings released around 4 pm, that isn't really a surprise that final ratings were posted on the 31st. The exceptions are Friday finals, which aren't posted until Monday, and Sunday finals, which don't come until Tuesday. Everything else gets finals posted around 4 pm the next day.
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VWe need to look at DVR as well....
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http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/weekly-ratings/week-28-broadcast-top-25-and-network-rankings-march-27-april-2-2017/ (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/weekly-ratings/week-28-broadcast-top-25-and-network-rankings-march-27-april-2-2017/)
The weekly ratings are in and not surprisingly, TAR didn't make the top 25. However, they may have been somewhat close. 1.1 tied shows for 25th and TAR had a 0.9. In terms of the number of viewers, TAR wasn't close. 4.36 million vs. 6.10 million for 25th. No doubt fewer overall viewers at 10 PM affected that.
I'm checking daily for DVR numbers. Nothing seen yet.
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http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/weekly-ratings/week-28-broadcast-top-25-and-network-rankings-march-27-april-2-2017/ (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/weekly-ratings/week-28-broadcast-top-25-and-network-rankings-march-27-april-2-2017/)
The weekly ratings are in and not surprisingly, TAR didn't make the top 25. However, they may have been somewhat close. 1.1 tied shows for 25th and TAR had a 0.9. In terms of the number of viewers, TAR wasn't close. 4.36 million vs. 6.10 million for 25th. No doubt fewer overall viewers at 10 PM affected that.
I'm checking daily for DVR numbers. Nothing seen yet.
Exactly the same as more recent seasons from 25.
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Another 0.9 rating for episode 2. Probably subject to more revision than usual in the final ratings given the various news preemptions. You almost need to discard a lot of ratings for shows last night. But it's good we didn't dip from the premiere
Source: showbuzz daily
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1.0 for the 10-10:30 portion
0.9 for the 10:30 portion
4.3 million viewers
And the next highest show was a 0.7
We are doing quite well.
Much better than I anticipated
From Showbuzz
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Little flat from last week, 4.299 million viewers and not bad for all. It's still the most viewed time slot since post-Training Day switch era.
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What's nice is that it's EXACTLY the same as last week while almost everything else on TV was DOWN. AND we won the timeslot. :conf:
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3.99 this week. I don't know anything about ratings but I find it low.
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Still, we won the timeslot both in viewers and rating.
What we need to wait for is DVR results!
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The rating was 0.9.
Source: tvbythenumbers
And here are DVR Ratings :( http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/dvr-ratings/week-28-broadcast-live-3-ratings-march-27-april-2-2017/
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1.383 million ppl watched the premiere in Canada +7 day DVR. This ranked 13th for the week.
The viewership is down from S28's premiere, but the rank is the same.
http://assets.numeris.ca/Downloads/March%2027,%202017%20-%20April%202,%202017%20(National).pdf
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Live plus 7 numbers were released for the week of the premiere. The 0.9 same day rating increased to a 1.6 rating in Live plus 7.
I would say that is respectable. Nothing too eye-raising, but not bad.
Source: tvbythenumbers
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Locked in at 0.9 for episode 3.
Source: showbuzz daily as usual
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Entertainment Weekly has opinions about the survival chances of 47 shows on various networks that have yet to be renewed. Number 25 in the article is TAR and they have some discouraging words about TAR's ratings:
25. THE AMAZING RACE (CBS)
If this was nearly any other show I would assume CBS would dump it. After 29 cycles, ratings fell to only 4 million viewers and red-lining 0.9 rating. Maybe producers can cut costs by melting down all those golden Emmys?
I don't think things are as bad as they are portraying it and it ignores that TAR gained over 75% in time shifted viewing.
Also, All of the networks have a big dropoff in viewers for the 10 PM shows. Using the graphic that Claude posted below, The Catch on ABC held 59% of the viewers from the 9 PM show on ABC. NBC's Blacklist:Redemption held on to 63.5% of the audience for the NBC 9 PM show. TAR held on to 77% of the viewers of Life in Pieces, the CBS 9:30 PM show. I think that speaks well for TAR.
We will just have to wait and see what happens.
http://ew.com/tv/deathwatch-2017-tv-renewed-cancelled/47-chicago-fire-justice-med-p-d-and-law-order-svu-nbc (http://ew.com/tv/deathwatch-2017-tv-renewed-cancelled/47-chicago-fire-justice-med-p-d-and-law-order-svu-nbc)
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Locked in at 0.9 for episode 3.
Source: showbuzz daily as usual
4.183 million viewers for preliminary ratings in episode 3. Still at the top of the time slot.
Link (http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Fast-Demo-2017-Apr-13.THU_.png)
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Not so fast. Final ratings have been6released and it adjusted down to a 0.8. New series low.
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MacGyver also landed a 0.8 for their SEASON FINALE
That show has been renewed.
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The DVR for the 1st episode has been released, 2.44 million. Adding the 4.30 million who watched the premiere that's a 6.73 million grand total. I've said this before, I know nothing about ratings and I'm not happy with it.
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The DVR for the 1st episode has been released, 2.44 million. Adding the 4.30 million who watched the premiere that's a 6.73 million grand total. I've said this before, I know nothing about ratings and I'm not happy with it.
The first thing to know about ratings, oddly enough, is that total viewers are not important. Advertiser rates are set by the adults 18-49 rating, which is the main source of income for the networks, which is why I only report that figure here. Ratings is a fascinating business to analyze!
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DVR for Episode Two: 0.9 to a 1.5, 2.46 million, making the new total viewers of the episode as 6.46 million. Pretty steady from the premiere.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/dvr-ratings/week-29-broadcast-live-7-ratings-april-3-9-2017/
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0.9 for the 9 pm hour. 0.8 for the 10 pm hour, per showbuzzdaily
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Considering our leadin was a rerun of The Great Indoors with 5.60 million at a 1.0, that's actually not so bad.
Now if only CBS would give us a proper shot with a new Big Bang Theory and start us off earlier! :groan:
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Devil's advocate: we were a NEW episode that rated lower than a RERUN of a comedy, and that comedy is getting canceled. I'd say that is not great. But its hard to get the word out when the schedule keeps changing.
I'm still optimistic, but I think we almost need to root for the impending writers strike at this point.
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Viewership ratings for 2 combined episodes are 4.441 million in the first hour and 3.812 million in the second hour. So, the first hour was third behind Scandal and the first hour of Blacklist, while the second hour was second behind Blacklist.
Link (http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Fast-Demo-2017-Apr-20.THU_.png)
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Held up well against the PREMIER of the Blacklist
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We need to win our TimeSlot I think...
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Is that bad? Like being tied?
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I remember one of the analysts at tvbythenumbers once said that how a show performs within its own network is more important than how it does against another network's shows.
So, as with any show, it'll likely boil down to where TAR ranks among CBS shows, and TAR's production budget versus its ratings performance. (TAR29 already seems like one of the cheapest seasons, task-wise, in a while.)
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At this point, an aging show like TAR is not going to get many new fans. It just needs to retain old fans.
Devil's advocate: we were a NEW episode that rated lower than a RERUN of a comedy, and that comedy is getting canceled. I'd say that is not great. But its hard to get the word out when the schedule keeps changing.
I'm still optimistic, but I think we almost need to root for the impending writers strike at this point.
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I remember one of the analysts at tvbythenumbers once said that how a show performs within its own network is more important than how it does against another network's shows.
So, as with any show, it'll likely boil down to where TAR ranks among CBS shows, and TAR's production budget versus its ratings performance. (TAR29 already seems like one of the cheapest seasons, task-wise, in a while.)
This times one thousand. Its not competing against The Catch and The Blacklist. Its competing against CBS shows that have yet to be renewed, such as Hunted, Criminal Minds Beyond Borders, Code Black, etc.
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I have faith this show CAN and will make it to 30!
...I hope :dontgo:
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I remember one of the analysts at tvbythenumbers once said that how a show performs within its own network is more important than how it does against another network's shows.
So, as with any show, it'll likely boil down to where TAR ranks among CBS shows, and TAR's production budget versus its ratings performance. (TAR29 already seems like one of the cheapest seasons, task-wise, in a while.)
I think the lack of a non elimination leg so far is a cost cutting move. Get more teams out of the race early and you save a little money.
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Phil in an exclusive Canadian interview
Said 29 is rating very well
http://www.toronto24hours.ca/2017/04/26/the-amazing-race-returns-for-season-29-fighting-for-its-life
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We're already doing better than 28 in one respect: We have hit the live +3 or live +7 top 25 weekly three times in a row.
TAR28 only hit it 4x in the ENTIRE season.
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Desperate for this show to hit season 30
Is Thursday at 10 worse than Friday at 8 time slot wise?
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Down to a 0.7 last night, per showbuzz. NOT good, another series low as the audience continues to erode.
Before anyone mentions how competition was increased due to the NFL draft, it didn't affect other shows in the hour, as we were beaten by Blacklist
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It is definitely not good :(
The only slight positive I can mention was that it went up from 3.84 to 3.87 million from last week's 10 PM outing.
We'll really have to cross our fingers for the DVR ratings.
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Still think TAR is doing ok considering the competition and timeslot
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DVR Ratings for our 2-hour outing is out (Live +3) and we still cracked the Top 25 (9 PM tied for #16 and 10 PM tied for #24):
0.9 to a 1.4 and a 0.8 to a 1.3 respectively 18-49 share wise, with 9 PM boosting to 6,173,000 viewers as the #25 most viewed show of that week.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/dvr-ratings/week-31-broadcast-live-3-ratings-april-17-23-2017/
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I was looking at the ratings of past seasons and I was surprised by the total, the dvr really propelled it higher. Like S.27's E01 it had 5.82 million viewers, adding the dvr it totaled 8.11 million. S.26 E05 initially totaled a 6.05 million, adding the dvr it garnered an 8.00 million. S.25's Finale had a total of 8.18 Million in viewers. It gave me the impression that TAR is still doing really well. I'm just disappointed that the long gap of showing S.29 affected it coupled with the late timeslot is killing it. There is interest from what I've been seeing from the castings, people are lining up to be on the show. I'm still hoping that the dvr's for this season will save it. Hoping for more seasons in the future and hopefully a move to a better timeslot. Can't we fans petition that?
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Writer's Strike cancelled. :(
http://deadline.com/2017/05/wga-strike-averted-tentative-deal-film-tv-contract-amptp-1202081121/
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Was coming here to post the same thing. Definitely does not help TAR's chances. We will know at some point in the next 2 weeks, as CBS has their upfront presentation coming up.
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In some point, TV By the Numbers has the weekly cancellation bear that TAR must going to have renewed or cancellation as it will be undecided on the show's fate by before 2 weeks time.
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TVBTN only covers scripted shows. Most of CBS's decisions have already been made. Only a handful of shows are awaiting their fate, TAR among them. Off the top of my head, Hunted, Code black, and the criminal minds spinoff are among the only other shows awaiting word.
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As it stands
I'll be shocked if it is cancelled
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Dunno, there may still be hope for a Season 30. New DVR numbers are in, and so far every week has been over 6 million after DVR.
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http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/dvr-ratings/week-31-broadcast-live-7-ratings-april-17-23-2017/
Live +7 ratings are out.
9 PM TAR went from a 0.9 to a 1.5, and from 4.40 million to 6.48 million viewers.
10 PM TAR went from a 0.8 to a 1.4 and from 3.83 million to 6.13 million viewers.
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That's great!! How did it stand up to the competition? Did we win the hour?
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http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/dvr-ratings/week-31-broadcast-live-7-ratings-april-17-23-2017/
Live +7 ratings are out.
9 PM TAR went from a 0.9 to a 1.5, and from 4.40 million to 6.48 million viewers.
10 PM TAR went from a 0.8 to a 1.4 and from 3.83 million to 6.13 million viewers.
A glimmer of hope in an uncertainty... That's splendid
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That's great!! How did it stand up to the competition? Did we win the hour?
No, The Blacklist had a 1.7 rating when all said and done. I don't think these ratings are great at all, but I do have hope we will get one more race.
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Better news today, as the show went back up to a 0.9 in the ratings, per showbuzz
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:tup: Thanks!!
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Per Spoiler TV, 0.9 with 3.99 million viewers and #1 in its timeslot!
http://www.spoilertv.com/2017/05/ratings-news-5th-may-2017.html
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Per Spoiler TV, 0.9 with 3.99 million viewers and #1 in its timeslot!
http://www.spoilertv.com/2017/05/ratings-news-5th-may-2017.html
Blacklist has more total viewers right? So how can we be first? ???
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Because total viewers is largely unimportant. The 18-49 demo is what sets commercial ad rates, so that is by far the most important and most frequently reported
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Ratings for Live +3 DVR are out... and sadly our first Italy episode did not make the Top 25 after making a new series low. Perhaps we will fare better on Live +7.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/dvr-ratings/week-32-broadcast-live-3-ratings-april-24-30-2017/
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Episode 8 ratings news:
18-49 demo for the episode was 0.9, the same as last week. With preliminary ratings on the episode was 4.083 viewers.
Source: showbuzz
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That 0.9 would make us the winners of the timeslot
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Another doubleheader next week. CBS clearly wants this season over with.
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May sweeps
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Another doubleheader next week. CBS clearly wants this season over with.
May sweeps. It's why all finales are now.
I'm guessing if we actually started in April we would be more rushed than we are now.
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Haven't been there in almost a month due to too much focus on other shows, but TAR has been renewed. Check here:
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/elementary-the-amazing-race-renew-cbs-1202426191/ (http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/elementary-the-amazing-race-renew-cbs-1202426191/)
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BEST DAY EVER
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Ratings for Live +3 DVR are out... and sadly our first Italy episode did not make the Top 25 after making a new series low. Perhaps we will fare better on Live +7.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/dvr-ratings/week-32-broadcast-live-3-ratings-april-24-30-2017/
What you really want to know is the live plus 30. That actually is now driving network decisions.
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No offense but if it was live+30 then we would be getting news much later.
I stand with live + 3 and + 7 being the most important, if 30 was then why is there little to zero news about live + 30?
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No offense but if it was live+30 then we would be getting news much later.
I stand with live + 3 and + 7 being the most important, if 30 was then why is there little to zero news about live + 30?
The nets use 30; the media doesn't. The nets have research departments that can factor in all the ways eyeballs can see a show with the live plus 30 numbers. Generally those numbers aren't released but maybe twice a year, which is why you don't hear about them. IIRC, Moonves made mention of this several years ago as the flaws in live plus same day and live plus three became apparent. Live plus seven is of primary interest to advertisers not the nets. the nets like live plus 30 because it gathers all viewing platforms including streaming and VOD and those are actual total eyeballs not a sample.
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We are just fine. Doing well in this crazy weird timeslot!
But if they LIKE us there...that means Fall Football becomes an issue. :groan:
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We are just fine. Doing well in this crazy weird timeslot!
But if they LIKE us there...that means Fall Football becomes an issue. :groan:
Peach, the Thursday Night NFL package is basically 7 games in September/October and one or two near the holidays at the end of the season, usually not on Thursday nights. For a show on Thursday night after those games, seasons start in late October and reach midseason hiatus in December, then return (for 22/23 episodes in February/March, depending on exactly what the NCAA Big Dance schedule is like that opening weekend.
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0.9 at 9 pm. 0.7 at 10 pm last night. Maybe this will clue CBS in on 10 pm not being a great home for this family-oriented show.
Ratings source showbuzz daily of course
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This is what happens when the idiots at CBS put us up against season finales on every network and give us a cancelled show as our leadin :res:
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Well at least it's now safe for at least one more season. Of course this could still affect the budget of said season, though
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This is what happens when the idiots at CBS put us up against season finales on every network and give us a cancelled show as our leadin :res:
I stumbled across a list of events happening on other shows during the May sweeps periods (from tvline.com):
Number of characters giving birth: 3
Number of couples having s-e-x, kissing or saying “I Love You” for the first time: 29
Number of new pregnancies: 4
Number of weddings: 8
Number of couples reuniting: 11
Number of fatalities: 44
I'm not sure how TAR competes with all that. First of all, let's rule out fatalities. Aside from being tragic and sad, the liability would be staggering. TAR's done couples kissing, saying "I love you" and couples reuniting. I don't think that would be new and fresh. Maybe a pregnant racer or an engaged team getting married as a speed bump?
Maybe TAR needs something new and way outside the box. Like an 8 PM time slot or something like that.
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would be new and fresh. Maybe a pregnant racer or an engaged team getting married as a speed bump?
Even though she did not know it at the time I seem to remember that Claire (of the watermelon fame) was pregnant while filming season 17.
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TAR30 has been ordered, but it's still disheartening and sad that a repeat of a cancelled show got more viewers and a higher demo rating than both hours of TAR.
Final numbers for last night:
9pm: 0.9/4, 4.42m viewers
10pm: 0.8/3, 3.86m viewers
Great Indoors repeat: 1.0/4, 5.02m with BBT repeat as a lead-in.
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Guys...it does NOT MATTER. Watch the Ratings +7 days :)
They KNOW our show is NOT a 10PM show. But we did okay there...or at least good enough.
:tup:
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Some interesting tidbits from the CBS upfronts this past week on how they are handling broadcast and digital audiences for advertisers. One tidbit, CBS now views the marketplace has having multiple demo audiences, instead of just the one.
http://deadline.com/2017/05/cbs-introduces-data-help-ad-buyers-span-broadcast-digital-upfront-1202096265/ (http://deadline.com/2017/05/cbs-introduces-data-help-ad-buyers-span-broadcast-digital-upfront-1202096265/)
Like other broadcasters this week, CBS used its upfront presentation today to take some shots at digital companies competing for ad dollars. But it also repeated a familiar theme: That its status as the No. 1 network sets it apart from its TV rivals.
“Great content is always king,” CEO Les Moonves told the Carnegie Hall audience, adding that CBS programming is “clean, advertiser friendly and the highest quality.”
With new platforms, CBS’ total audience is “greater today than it was back in the year 2000,” he says. And “we’ve moved beyond generic demographics. That old idea of just one, coveted demo is so dated — like American Idol.”
Network Sales President Jo Ann Ross says that CBS is “not just No. 1 with viewers. We’re No. 1 in 250 product categories with consumers. You know: consumers. The people who actually buy your products.”
Still, CBS says it’s embracing advances in data and measurement — one of the hot topics this week. The company introduced a service called CBS Customized Data Solutions to help advertisers target audiences across the company’s networks and digital platforms including CBS All Access.
“We’ll back this up with credible measurements,” she says.
Ross took a jab at NBC and Fox, which said this week that they will offer digital Video Quality Score measurements from Oracle’s MOAT.
They’re “catching up” since CBS “was among the first to partner with [it] years ago,” she says.
She assured buyers that the blend of broadcast and digital would provide them with “real people watching your commercials in hit shows with zero fraud — all from a source you can trust.”
Broadcasters have made hay with the trust issue this week after sponsors found that digital platforms had connected their ads with content from hate groups, jihadists, suicides and a murder.
“We don’t promise what we can’t deliver,” Ross says. “Truth in advertising: What a concept.”
The company’s pitch “is simple,” she adds: “Seamless, easy buying across all screens for scaling target audiences quickly and the absolute best environment in all of media for your creative.”
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For some odd reason, Live + 7 DVR ratings were never released for Week 32 (Italy 1 which was a new series low).
Week 33 (Venice) however, has arrived!
0.9 to a 1.5 and up from 4.08 million to 6.36 million viewers.
Source: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/dvr-ratings/week-33-broadcast-live-7-ratings-may-1-7-2017/
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Good sign for us!
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Yep...LIVE +7 got us the renew!!
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I had hoped that it was always a sure thing that season 30 was going to happen and it was just a toss up between one or two seasons a year.
But the lack of a cast what BVM said suggests otherwise.
Like no planning on 30 was done as it is a surprise
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That isn't the way it works... :groan:
Final Casting cant be done for a show you are not sure will film. But lots of other things can...
And remember...last filming was a YEAR ago...
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0.6 (!!) rating last night, another series low. This is why they had those 2 hour episodes, to get as many in during the tv season as possible. Wednesday was the last day of the official tv season, so the summer season is upon us. Good to know we're already renewed.
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On track to be the lowest-rated finale ever the way they've progressively dropped?
There's still the DVR+7
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I hate CBS with all my heart. Why not just air it at 8 PM or 9 PM with Big Bang rerun as a lead-in? :res:
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On track to be the lowest-rated finale ever the way they've progressively dropped?
For sure. We've been fractional the entire season. I don't see that changing.
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http://deadline.com/2017/05/2016-2017-tv-season-ratings-series-rankings-list-1202102340/
We're officially 62nd in the race to get the most viewers.
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0.6 (!!) rating last night, another series low. This is why they had those 2 hour episodes, to get as many in during the tv season as possible. Wednesday was the last day of the official tv season, so the summer season is upon us. Good to know we're already renewed.
No one cares. DVR +7 is where things are today. That's why we got renewed.
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http://deadline.com/2017/05/2016-2017-tv-season-ratings-series-rankings-list-1202102340/
We're officially 62nd in the race to get the most viewers.
Hunted BEAT us! :O
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I wonder how many seasons will air in 17-18
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I hate CBS with all my heart. Why not just air it at 8 PM or 9 PM with Big Bang rerun as a lead-in? :res:
I agree with gamer, the Race needs a BETTER timeslot
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http://deadline.com/2017/05/2016-2017-tv-season-ratings-series-rankings-list-1202102340/
We're officially 62nd in the race to get the most viewers.
Hunted BEAT us! :O
Hunted got a big boost with it's premiere happening after the AFC Championship game with a 4.0/13 in the demos and 11.83 million viewers. Also with only 7(?) episodes, it really didn't get averaged out much to the normal ratings when the regular episodes happened. Also Hunted ranked 28th in demos for the ratings season too because of this
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-sunday-jan-22-2017/
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Thanks! Seriously though guys.. CBS knows this was not a good timeslot for us. But we performed well in the +7 so it was enough to get us renewed. We have proved we can be a good "filler-in" which makes us very valuable...But does suck for those of us and families who prefer to watch live and like a more family friendly slot.
For now,,,celebrate the renewal! And keep watching/rewatching in the 7 day window! Put it on 10x a day!
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Episode 8 was one of the better results after +7
1.6, 6.56 million
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Thanks! Seriously though guys.. CBS knows this was not a good timeslot for us. But we performed well in the +7 so it was enough to get us renewed. We have proved we can be a good "filler-in" which makes us very valuable...But does suck for those of us and families who prefer to watch live and like a more family friendly slot.
For now,,,celebrate the renewal! And keep watching/rewatching in the 7 day window! Put it on 10x a day!
Had we been to a better timeslot, it would have been better for the ratings and to the show. But then again, thankful that we still did well despite being late. But I really do think we lost some viewers because of not having a slot in fall season.
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DVR out for our Live +7 outings in Vietnam: 0.8 to a 1.4 for Hanoi and 0.7 to a 1.3 for Ninh Binh. Viewer wise, it's from 4.32 million to 6.13 million, and 3.75 to 5.69 million respectively.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/dvr-ratings/modern-family-designated-survivor-finales-make-biggest-gains-in-week-35-broadcast-live-7-ratings/
And now the worse news: The finale was our lowest rated yet, scoring only a 0.7 with 3.88 million viewers. It's up from last week, and this week we managed to tick up a point from a Life in Pieces lead-in with a 0.6 and up against the NBA Finals. It's a respectable gain, but it is still very very low. Thank goodness we got the renewal.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-thursday-june-1-2017/
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No one cares about the live rating
+7 is where we are at
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No one cares about the live rating
+7 is where we are at
Yes but live is still very important. Considering how our gains have been consistently 0.6 or 0.7, a higher live rating is ideal.
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Have a feeling finale DVR won't be as good. A lot of the anti-Brookes probably won't even bother and just delete.
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Have a feeling finale DVR won't be as good. A lot of the anti-Brookes probably won't even bother and just delete.
:lol:
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Have a feeling finale DVR won't be as good. A lot of the anti-Brookes probably won't even bother and just delete.
Nah a lot of these people are in the same demographic of actively avoiding spoilers and bitching when something even related to the smallest posibility of spoilers happens. We'll see!
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Live +3 for our series low in Korea numbers are out and we actually DOUBLED. 0.6 to a 1.2 and 3.63 to 5.34 million.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/dvr-ratings/week-36-broadcast-live-3-ratings-may-22-28-2017/
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:wohoo:
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TAR adjusted up.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/thursday-final-ratings-june-1-2017/
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0.8/3
3.91
Still not great.
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The DVR ratings that were posted just further prove that Live ratings still do matter. Other episodes had gone from 0.9 to 1.5, and that episode went from a 0.6 to 1.2.
I'm well aware that Live ratings aren't the only important metric anymore, but that's still where most of the bills get paid. To write them off as unimportant is foolish.
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On finale night,
Other CBS pulled 0.6 and were all reruns
0.8 is impressive
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A bit better news for people thinking this finale + same day dvr would drop due to the winners - we adjusted up a point on our finale to hit a 0.8.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/thursday-final-ratings-june-1-2017/
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For anyone who wants to know more about which ratings matter, I've copied and pasted this blurb from http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-monday-june-5-2017/
This is from BM: "Do advertisers really care about L+7 or 3 or whatever math networks are using to goose their numbers? Maybe I'm odd, but when I'm watching a recorded show, never do I sit through the commercials. If I'm an advertiser, delayed playback wouldn't matter."
L+3 and L+7 ratings are used by the networks to evaluate shows and for PR purposes. When these metrics first appeared on the scene, the cry among executives was, "Wait for the Live plus 3s before you come to a conclusion regarding a show." It is now simply accepted that ALL shows add viewers with delayed viewing, but as I have said, the rich get richer and the poor get a little less poor. The big shows get the most delayed viewing, and the smaller shows may have bigger percentage increases for their audience, but they are still the smaller shows.
Media buyers care about the C3 and C7 ratings, which are the average minute ratings for the NETWORK commercials within a show. If you fast forward through the commercial, you will not be counted. If you stop to watch a commercial (people do), you will be counted.
If my memory serves me, the L+SD ratings are fairly close to the C3 ratings, but someone out there can email me if that is no longer true.
Send questions to masked.scheduler@gmail.com and you can follow me on Twitter @maskedscheduler
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Thanks for the info slayton! While I do think that "The Masked Scheduler" is FOS at times, I have to agree that in this era of steadily declining ratings, Live + SD is no longer as accurate as it used to be.
Also some more news now that the 2016-2017 season is officially over, TAR averaged a 0.6 gain in Live +3, and averaged a 2.06 million gain in viewers. While our numbers aren's amazing, it's definitely notable that in terms of VIEWER GAIN, we are in the Top 25!
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/more-tv-news/final-live-3-adults-18-49-ratings-for-2016-17-designated-survivor-makes-a-big-jump/
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/more-tv-news/final-live-3-viewer-averages-for-2016-17-big-bang-theory-ncis-pass-thursday-night-football/
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The South Korean episode had the highest percentage gain in +7 (in the 18-49 demo) among all shows!
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/dvr-ratings/week-36-broadcast-live-7-ratings-may-22-28-2017/
Also first time beating Survivor in demo gains.
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I sincerely hope that this giant red flag of 10 pm not being a suitable timeslot, instead of the show having run it's course, reaches CBS.
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http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/dvr-ratings/nba-finals-americas-got-talent-lead-broadcast-live-3-ratings-for-may-29-june-4/
Live + 3 in! We increased to a 1.3 and 5.71 million viewers for the finale.
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Nice! Not as much of a DVR hit as I expected of the finale.
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I guess the ratings weren't too bad this year, knowing that we have just come back from hiatus!
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Finale Live +7 ratings are in! (and the last numbers of the season)
#7 overall in increase from 0.8 to a 1.4, and #3 overall in viewer increase from 3.91 million to 6.05 million viewers. Considering how our Live +7 more or less equaled TAR28, it's easy to see how this could have been a factor in our renewal (AND, unlike TAR28, we actually cracked the Live +7 Top 30 every week minus Episode 6). Good job TAR29!
Source: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/dvr-ratings/broadcast-live-7-ratings-for-may-29-june-4-2017/