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The Amazing Race => The Amazing Race Discussion => Topic started by: aryanisetiawan on November 27, 2013, 05:30:51 AM
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-i think the music ( soundtrack ) of season before and season 18 are much more dramatic than season 19 until present. well some rare legs had it. however, i found it a somewhat significant problem. i didn't get the feeling of "these teams are so frustrated in a place they didn't know, and they have to finish this crazily difficult task", instead i only feel "you know, this teams are doing a not very difficult task, and they're having fun with it. " i lost the intense feeling that i used to have when watching the previous seasons.
-i love how phil narrates every single task and destinations. he hasn't really done since season 19. we only see some teams reading the clues while the cameras directly showing the destinations without phil telling them
-i really miss a pole next to the pitstop showing the location of the city and the country. i don't know, it looks really cool and gives you the sense that this is a serious race which features countries around the world.
these are the little changes that i wish could happen again in season 24, it probably would increase viewers. is it possible that we could express our opinion and give it directly to the amazing race production crews? i really wish there was
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Great Idea!! I think we all have some constructive ideas....
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Pick a good cast for AS. It isn't that hard.
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Here's my list:
- Bring back the yield while keeping the u-turn. :hearts:
- Speedbump / Hazard now becomes something similar to yields and u-turns. (though I doubt this very much)
- Try placing more NELs in the first few legs if possible. (I know, budget :res: )
- The pole mentioned on the 1st post. ;)
- More different types of music. :hrt: Also, bring back some old ones. :)
- Let fans around the world vote for the returning teams for the next returnee season. :wohoo: (my favorite)
- Add new twists every season. :hoot:
- Bring back teams from older seasons or bring back teams that were eliminated on or before the 4th leg.
- Cast 12 teams once in a while. ;)
- New NEL penalty.
- Bring back starting line task. (with or without penalties; better if no one gets eliminated on the starting line)
- More Fast Forwards? :hug?: About 3 to 6, no FFs on the 1st leg and the last 3 legs.
- 2-hour premiere. :hoot: Either it is 1 long leg or it is 2 legs with a NEL/TBC on the 1st leg.
- Keep 2-hour finale every season. :cheer:
- Put 3 yields and 3 u-turns each race. (I wanna see one on the 1st/2nd leg.) :colors
- Visit more exotic locations. (I loved the Bora Bora visit from last season.) :hoot:
- More flight drama!!! :meow:
- Good edits for all teams.
- Casting teams with unique professions. :conf:
And more! That's all I remember for now, but I might be forgetting something.
As I went on, I realized that this is similar to a wishlist thread.
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I agree, a 2-hour finale shows that it is a big deal to people that might not normally watch. Also,
- I wish we had a live finale show like Survivor does.
- I loved watching the elimination station, bring it back
- I always watched the eliminated team the next day on The Bonnie Hunt Show, then the final 3 on the Early Show. I think doing something like this on the view would help boost ratings.
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More riddle based route info/clue maybe, so the next destination is solely based on a riddle. So we can see the possibility that some teams might go to the wrong destination? i can't stop imagining what happen if Jeff & Jordan actually flew to China instead of Chile and it's not even riddle based :groan:
but at the same time i think it's pretty easy to solve ;_;
i just like seeing teams trying to solve a riddle based clue
Instead of getting 2 express pass for the 1st place teams during the 1st leg. they got 1 express pass and a power to u-turn any teams in any legs, even the legs w/o uturn. so the advantages are solely for that team.
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- I wish we had a live finale show like Survivor does.
TAR Canada made that - I would really like to hear what teams have to say, which were their favourite places / tasksx..
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More riddle based route info/clue maybe, so the next destination is solely based on a riddle. So we can see the possibility that some teams might go to the wrong destination? i can't stop imagining what happen if Jeff & Jordan actually flew to China instead of Chile and it's not even riddle based :groan:
but at the same time i think it's pretty easy to solve ;_;
i just like seeing teams trying to solve a riddle based clue
Instead of getting 2 express pass for the 1st place teams during the 1st leg. they got 1 express pass and a power to u-turn any teams in any legs, even the legs w/o uturn. so the advantages are solely for that team.
Great idea! :tup:
Which reminds me of another thing I wanna see: On a starting line task, the 1st team to finish it will win 1 EP.
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Always. Plan. A. GOOD. Finale. Memory. Challenge. We fans and viewers love and look forward to that. I don't care even if you repeat TAR 12's memory challenge a 100 times. That was hard and considering the amount of things they interacted with throughout the race.. this memory challenge could have been repeated for so many darn seasons!
I don't care if you love the Globetrotters or Cowboys. You can put them on the race and nothing we can do. But if you have to bring back, can you at least pick more decent choices like BQs, Charla and Mirna and Oswald and Danny? I mean, I don't even mind seeing Rob and Amber again! (But still, better them than Globetrotters)
And can you at least please spare a thought for the fans and put teams we actually LIKE? Not teams like John and Jess or Leo and Jamal who has more haters than fans, you know? I know they probably have some Unfinished Business, but it's NOT MY PROBLEM. I don't care if they didn't use their Express Pass and it was a sad story. Period.
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-i think the music ( soundtrack ) of season before and season 18 are much more dramatic than season 19 until present. well some rare legs had it. however, i found it a somewhat significant problem. i didn't get the feeling of "these teams are so frustrated in a place they didn't know, and they have to finish this crazily difficult task", instead i only feel "you know, this teams are doing a not very difficult task, and they're having fun with it. " i lost the intense feeling that i used to have when watching the previous seasons.
-i love how phil narrates every single task and destinations. he hasn't really done since season 19. we only see some teams reading the clues while the cameras directly showing the destinations without phil telling them
-i really miss a pole next to the pitstop showing the location of the city and the country. i don't know, it looks really cool and gives you the sense that this is a serious race which features countries around the world.
these are the little changes that i wish could happen again in season 24, it probably would increase viewers. is it possible that we could express our opinion and give it directly to the amazing race production crews? i really wish there was
OMG I ranted the same two points in the BMS thread. :lol: I think they really really should focus on fixing this first. Even though TAR 15 and TAR 16 were not that much good, I'd take them over the TAR 19 to 23 just because they really made me feel like I'm part of the race too.
Anyways I rewatched clips (from my collection) of TAR 5, TAR 8, TAR 10, TAR 11, TAR 14, TAR 17, TAR 20, and TAR 23.
In terms of sound editing and Phil's spiels, I truly enjoyed the pre-TAR18 era (especially from TAR 14 to TAR 17). The music makes me excited and terrified and pumped at the same time. In today's era? I feel like I'm watching a soap opera. No more intense music? :|
Phil also used to narrate in his amazing "mysterious" voice, and in most tasks he described them which is actually good bcause we can learn a lot from that culture. His pre-TAR18 voice were so crisp and lovely that when he describes the tasks it makes it A LOT MORE INTERESTING. Now? He's annoyingly happy, which for me makes the tasks easier than expected.
For this all-star edition, I seriously do hope they return to what they have done before (especially during TAR14-17). With this cast and this boot order (yay for youtube for 3rd out hopefully lololol), having sounds and Phil's voice added makes me want to not watch it (but meh im still going to watch it for the sake of watching it :lol:)
... Or maybe I'm too old for TAR already... and that's a problem because I'm only just 20 years old. :lol3:
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1. I would prefer it if they have more legs in the night. Night scenes in metropolises are usually quite beautiful, but I understand HOO will likely limit the feasibility of having night legs.
2. I think for a race around the world, there should be more tasks related to geography, not just 1 per season.
3. The first leg should always be a NEL. The second leg can be a double elimination.
4. Maybe have a zero hour pitstop after the elimination of the 4th placed team? With probably a HOO/flight to bunch the F3 teams?
5. I hope they cast more bickering couple teams who are efficient at completing tasks. I generally root for this kind of teams! :funny: :funny:
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-Here's Some-
1- A non-Los Angeles Start. Have the starting line like in the Mountain or Central Time-Zones.
2- New countries (last few seasons had no countries- except Season22 (Bora Bora and N. Ireland).
3- Bring back the Hazard, Yield, and Double-Leg.
4- Roadblock task at the starting line (like TARAustralia Season 1).
and Finally 5- More memory tasks on the final leg.
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-Here's Some-
1- A non-Los Angeles Start. Have the starting line like in the Mountain or Central Time-Zones.
2- New countries (last few seasons had no countries- except Season22 (Bora Bora and N. Ireland).
3- Bring back the Hazard, Yield, and Double-Leg.
4- Roadblock task at the starting line (like TARAustralia Season 1).
and Finally 5- More memory tasks on the final leg.
I agree 100% with all of these (except maybe the new countries.)
I wouldn't know what to do if the first leg didn't go through LAX.
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5. I hope they cast more bickering couple teams who are efficient at completing tasks. I generally root for this kind of teams! :funny: :funny:
You should cast s25 because I hope my wife and I fit this criteria and we applied for the first time. :hoot:
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- Stronger Female teams.
- Have the Hazard back witch include a Startingline task every time.
- New Countries!!!!!!!!!!!!
- More Famous landmarks.
- 3 Fastforwards in a Season.
- Have 12 teams in a season Again, then go back to 11 teams in the Next. And so on.
- Start another place then L.A.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Give People there not live in USA, a chance to Watch it online.
- Last but not least have The Amazing Race on TV forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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1.One Major change id like to see is No NEL
2.Also as others have said new countries.
3. Maybe even a foreign country start line
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-A double Uturn/Yield thingy: One yield and one Uturn? I'm not sure what the timeframe for a yield was (1hr? 30mins?).
-Food tasks, they were always entertaining. I remember 3 in season 5 alone.
-I liked some of the old NEL penalties too, but the speedbump is okay yet swapping around would do no harm.
And many of the ones you all stated above. :)
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#1: We do not have to have every single starting line in California. Well, California is beautiful, I have been there on vacation earlier this year, but it's like eating pizza 7 days a week. If you have ran out of ideas, try Las Vegas, Hawaii or Chicago. These are locations with many intercontinental flights.
#2: There are circa 200 countries worldwide. Many of them would be very interesting for American viewers, why not to visit them? I love having new countires on TAR. Slovak Republic (with the second leg in my Czech Republic ;) ), Albania or Serbia are some of them. They are much more secure than LA in the night.
#3: I dont like when two legs take place at the same country. I know thats because of budget, but it's pretty obvious that first of double-leg is non ellimination.
#4: Bring us more night city legs! If you combine night leg and a selected theme (Jack the Ripper at London or whatsoever), it would be legendary. And what if this episode would be broadcasted at Halloween night? Epic!
#5: I want 'eat these disgusting local delicasy' roadblocks back.
#6: I want to see more sexy-youngish-FF teams suchs as Nicky & Kim or Ally & Ashley.
#7: Why finish line destination signs have disappeared? They made me feel 'this race is serious'.
#8: Cast me as a 12th team, I know I'm not an American but I would create much drama. ;)
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#1 for me is CASTING!
Borrow some casting people from ActiveTV (TARA, TARAu, TARPh, Israel). They know what makes a good cast.
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If they could replicate TARAus 2's cast every time the show would last forever. I was devasted at every elimination after the first leg!
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In addition to some of the ideas suggested, I would like to see:
- teams not being equalized on flights every leg. I loved the old races when teams were all on different flights, trying to find the best one to take them to their next destination (Season 5 - Charla & Mirna)
- I wish teams didn't help each other as much in these last 4 or so seasons. Maybe I'm not remembering properly, but it seems that there used to be more of a competitive edge between the teams. For the most part teams were doing the tasks on their own, not getting other teams to show them how to do it.
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1. I'd really LOVE Route Info "Mini tasks" like TAR Canada had. Not super-challenging tasks, just little things that show more culture. Season 23 has done this pretty well, better than pervious seasons.
2. MORE RIDDLES! Riddles will cause either smart teams to propel forward, local interaction (which is hilarious), or both.
3. Better Pit Stops! I liked how Season 1 had local designs at the Pit Stop. Don't get me wrong, though, I love the Pit Stop mat. However, I think they could incorporate local culture better, instead of a few people standing in the middle of a square.
4. More Fast Forwards and U-Turns! Also more challenging Detours on U-Turn Legs.
5. Incorporate the No-Break Elimination Leg idea into legs. It'd be interesting to see teams be exhausted, keep racing, and then, the last few teams, seeing other teams, getting a false sense of security and then panicking.... Is that bad?....
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Speaking of zero hour Pit Stops, I want to see someone get ELIMINATED at a zero hour Pit Stop.
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WOW!!!
I've just read the full thread and I agree with all of the ideas. I'd just add:
Bring more excruciatingly funny tasks like cheeses rolling downhill, big, heavy, wet fish having to be carried through city streets, ridiculous disguises in rather serious places.
Idea: When teams ask for directions have them dressed like their destination. i.e. Wear swimsuits when asking for a beach, wear helmets when asking for a shooting range, wear flamenco dresses when asking for a show in Spain and so on.
I love when you balance, culture, intelligence, sightseeing, adventure, adrenalin, suspense & FUN!
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all i want to EMPHASISE is that the soundtrack you have been using in post UB is so bad and it makes me cringe and it doesnt add any excitement to the race. take some tips from the editors of TAR:can and TAR:aus - they know how its done
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Don't overload on Asia! Too much Asia isn't a good thing in my opinion xD
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I don't know if its me or what but TAR Canada and TAR Australia puts some editing/lighting/whatever treatments on the quality of their video, while it seems that TAR does not have any. :| tl;dr TAR Canada and TAR Australia's visuals looks absolutely stunning while the HD version of TAR America doesn't. ???
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Here are some of those that I finally remembered, thanks to some of the above posts! ;)
- More night legs! :hrt:
- Hawaii start! :luvya:
- More self-driving legs.
- A 1st leg NEL in the US.
- An Antarctic leg! :<3 (this I highly doubt)
- More teams challenging for the FF. :jam: (Which means some dim-witted teams. :funny: )
- A surprise elimination that is not in the 1st 2 legs.
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To add more drama to the whole TV side of TAR, I wish they have:
+ A new twist every season, but different each time (like the two million dollar prize)
+ something interesting in each leg. I want that placement table in Wikipedia to have at least one weird symbol each leg. Maybe the Double Battle task they have in TAR Israel (if I'm not mistaken).
+ A double elimination on the leg before the finale. I wonder how teams would react to this.
+ Bring back the Hazard penalty task (for the last team at the Starting Line task) and the Yield (and maybe make a blind double Yield)
Side note: What do you guys think of a Detour like mechanic, except it's not just for one task but for a series of tasks. So teams start at the same place and end at the same place, but took the leg on very different paths. And then there's a Yield like mechanic were one team forces another team to take one side of the set of tasks before entering the said set. Just a thought :)
Sidetrack: It took me a while to realize that we did have a night leg in TAR23. In Norway, only the sun was up the whole time. :funny:
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i think we all agree that night legs are things that we would really enjoy. :ghug: i would love to see more legs where teams are required to drive themselves to another country. i would also love a zero hour pitstop leg and continued in the same country. so the teams would be racing in the same place from morning to midnight ( or night to morning like leg 10 of TAR 14)
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To add more drama to the whole TV side of TAR, I wish they have:
+ A new twist every season, but different each time (like the two million dollar prize)
+ something interesting in each leg. I want that placement table in Wikipedia to have at least one weird symbol each leg. Maybe the Double Battle task they have in TAR Israel (if I'm not mistaken).
+ A double elimination on the leg before the finale. I wonder how teams would react to this.
+ Bring back the Hazard penalty task (for the last team at the Starting Line task) and the Yield (and maybe make a blind double Yield)
Side note: What do you guys think of a Detour like mechanic, except it's not just for one task but for a series of tasks. So teams start at the same place and end at the same place, but took the leg on very different paths. And then there's a Yield like mechanic were one team forces another team to take one side of the set of tasks before entering the said set. Just a thought :)
Sidetrack: It took me a while to realize that we did have a night leg in TAR23. In Norway, only the sun was up the whole time. :funny:
Forgot to add that to my list. :tup: And something I'd like to add would be a double elimination on the F5 will only be mentioned on the clue going to the pit stop. Meaning to say, it will not be mentioned in the previous leg (like Phil telling Bill & Cathi that there'll be a 2EL in the following leg) or any other time in the penultimate leg. The last 3 teams would probably react like this (if they are neck-and-neck): 3rd placer: (in a soft voice) The last 2 teams to check in will be eliminated. 4th placer: The last 2 teams to check-in... [random expression]! We have to beat them in a foot race! RUN!!! Then imagine what a dramatic moment it will be, and imagine if there's a commercial right before they reach the pit stop. :funny:
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To add more drama to the whole TV side of TAR, I wish they have:
+ A new twist every season, but different each time (like the two million dollar prize)
+ something interesting in each leg. I want that placement table in Wikipedia to have at least one weird symbol each leg. Maybe the Double Battle task they have in TAR Israel (if I'm not mistaken).
+ A double elimination on the leg before the finale. I wonder how teams would react to this.
+ Bring back the Hazard penalty task (for the last team at the Starting Line task) and the Yield (and maybe make a blind double Yield)
Side note: What do you guys think of a Detour like mechanic, except it's not just for one task but for a series of tasks. So teams start at the same place and end at the same place, but took the leg on very different paths. And then there's a Yield like mechanic were one team forces another team to take one side of the set of tasks before entering the said set. Just a thought :)
Sidetrack: It took me a while to realize that we did have a night leg in TAR23. In Norway, only the sun was up the whole time. :funny:
Forgot to add that to my list. :tup: And something I'd like to add would be a double elimination on the F5 will only be mentioned on the clue going to the pit stop. Meaning to say, it will not be mentioned in the previous leg (like Phil telling Bill & Cathi that there'll be a 2EL in the following leg) or any other time in the penultimate leg. The last 3 teams would probably react like this (if they are neck-and-neck): 3rd placer: (in a soft voice) The last 2 teams to check in will be eliminated. 4th placer: The last 2 teams to check-in... [random expression]! We have to beat them in a foot race! RUN!!! Then imagine what a dramatic moment it will be, and imagine if there's a commercial right before they reach the pit stop. :funny:
That would be TV gold! ... if the last three teams are actually racing against each other. I just realized this. :( If teams ended up getting separated early in the leg (like in TAR22 Scotland), it wouldn't be much of a thrill...
If TPTB would actually do this, they'll be sure to bunch up the teams at the start. What are the chances they'll actually do it for this all stars? :)
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I guess the only way I'd agree to a 1st leg NEL (hated those) is if the Hazard was featured. Otherwise, no need for that. Fortunately when they had those, they included a random double detour and a start line boot.
Anyway, the mid-leg boot out of nowhere was a neat idea. Having that in leg 6-8 would really scare the crap out of the surviving teams.
A double Yield (or a blind Yield) would totally rock. Should be interesting to see a scene where the first team Yielded would Yield a second team, and then the second team would either stand by them, asking "What gives?" or kick their ass. A blind Yield would be good TV, seeing a team get mad at "someone" in particular, (esp not the suspects).
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Don't overload on Asia! Too much Asia isn't a good thing in my opinion xD
Could be great if they did a Season, where they went around the World without going to Asia.
They did it with Europe in Season 2!!!!!!!
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Don't overload on Asia! Too much Asia isn't a good thing in my opinion xD
Agree on this. Asia has a lot to offer, but maybe they can explore Asia a little every season, and not overload 5-6 legs there. I would love some Europe and Africa as well!
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I don't know if its me or what but TAR Canada and TAR Australia puts some editing/lighting/whatever treatments on the quality of their video, while it seems that TAR does not have any. :| tl;dr TAR Canada and TAR Australia's visuals looks absolutely stunning while the HD version of TAR America doesn't. ???
OMG YES!
I'm definitely not a film or tech expert, but I believe it's got something to do with frame rates or something? Maybe they're adding some kind of filter? Can someone explain? I've always wondered the same thing.
Whatever it is, it makes the show that much more breathtaking and visually stunning.
TARUS' HD looks like something that's filmed on a basic home HD camera.
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Here are some of those that I finally remembered, thanks to some of the above posts! ;)
- More night legs! :hrt:
- Hawaii start! :luvya:
Yes!!!!
Love night legs. And I want to see a Race start/end in Alaska and Hawaii without them every setting foot in the lower 48.
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Here are some of those that I finally remembered, thanks to some of the above posts! ;)
- More night legs! :hrt:
- Hawaii start! :luvya:
Yes!!!!
Love night legs. And I want to see a Race start/end in Alaska and Hawaii without them every setting foot in the lower 48.
:luvya: :hrt: :cheer: :conf: :hearts: :hoot: :hugs: :tup: :jam: :party: :bunny :please:
I think TAR will do that one day, one day! That will be in TAR's history as: The first season without stepping into mainland USA.
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i would like to see twists every leg something like in Masterchef. for example as the winners of the leg they can put one team in the back of pack or who have to do extra task something like that
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i would like to see twists every leg something like in Masterchef. for example as the winners of the leg they can put one team in the back of pack or who have to do extra task something like that
That would add some value to actually winning a leg, and not just the final leg. I hope it won't replace earning a prize in the segment (sort of like the EP replacing a trip for two from Travelocity or $10,000).
To add to that, as mentioned, I'd like to see everyone else that didn't come in first to have to perform both detours (or two members having to perform a RB). Not all the time, but once or twice a season.
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I have a fairly simple list:
- Bring back the Fast Forward as a legitimate strategic opportunity. In other words, feature it more than on just one leg in the Race. If possible have at least 3 Fast Forwards during every Race, so teams have to strategize about when it really would be best to go for it.
- Fix the soundtrack. There has been way too much in the way of music featuring the cultures of the places visited, and not enough of the dramatic and suspenseful music that has made the Race feel like a race. Take Seasons 5 or 6 as an example.
- Eliminate the Pit Stop with no rest period. To me, this is just a no-brainer. It's not really a pit stop if there is no rest period! A rest period is the very definition of "pit stop."
- Don't make every U-turn a double U-turn. Does it really need to be called a "Double U-turn" anymore if EVERY U-turn is a Double U-turn?
- Also, keep the number of U-turns right where it's at. No more than two, but at least one every season.
- Quit casting celebrity wanna-be teams. Cast some very ordinary folks (keep them diverse though), and watch REAL TV magic happen! Think of what happened in Season 1.
- Allow teams more freedom to take their preferred form of transportation. Don't force them to take the same flight more than maybe once or twice during the entire Race. We like to see the drama of teams strategizing about what the best form of transportation would be!
- Don't overdo it with twists that try to encourage drama. If the cast is truly dynamic and lovable at the same time, this kind of drama will just happen on its own. Think of Tim & Marie and the drama they have created (so far) in TAR 23. This drama didn't come from unnecessary twists. It came from having dynamic personalities among the contestants. Do that every season!
- Bring back the two-hour premiere episodes, and have them feature only the first leg. There is simply not enough time to get to know the new teams with only one hour for the first leg.
- Finally, if it is not possible to cast some of the most memorable and fan-favorite teams for an All-Star season, just don't do an All-Star season at all.
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Total respect toward your list, Hooky. FF is a must. Even two wasn't too bad, but it's become a disaster where one was a complete bust of a FF. Now, I'm not sure if there were two in TAR23, but if not, that one that Jamy had was pathetic.
Yeah, the U-Turns are at a point where, after 7 seasons, they can drop the "Double" from a U-Turn. No need for a single, as it's been proven that it had a perfect boot record (especially when you include an impossibly task).
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I have a fairly simple list:
- Bring back the Fast Forward as a legitimate strategic opportunity. In other words, feature it more than on just one leg in the Race. If possible have at least 3 Fast Forwards during every Race, so teams have to strategize about when it really would be best to go for it.
- Fix the soundtrack. There has been way too much in the way of music featuring the cultures of the places visited, and not enough of the dramatic and suspenseful music that has made the Race feel like a race. Take Seasons 5 or 6 as an example.
- Eliminate the Pit Stop with no rest period. To me, this is just a no-brainer. It's not really a pit stop if there is no rest period! A rest period is the very definition of "pit stop."
- Don't make every U-turn a double U-turn. Does it really need to be called a "Double U-turn" anymore if EVERY U-turn is a Double U-turn?
- Also, keep the number of U-turns right where it's at. No more than two, but at least one every season.
- Quit casting celebrity wanna-be teams. Cast some very ordinary folks (keep them diverse though), and watch REAL TV magic happen! Think of what happened in Season 1.
- Allow teams more freedom to take their preferred form of transportation. Don't force them to take the same flight more than maybe once or twice during the entire Race. We like to see the drama of teams strategizing about what the best form of transportation would be!
- Don't overdo it with twists that try to encourage drama. If the cast is truly dynamic and lovable at the same time, this kind of drama will just happen on its own. Think of Tim & Marie and the drama they have created (so far) in TAR 23. This drama didn't come from unnecessary twists. It came from having dynamic personalities among the contestants. Do that every season!
- Bring back the two-hour premiere episodes, and have them feature only the first leg. There is simply not enough time to get to know the new teams with only one hour for the first leg.
- Finally, if it is not possible to cast some of the most memorable and fan-favorite teams for an All-Star season, just don't do an All-Star season at all.
OMG. Love this! :hrt:
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- Eliminate the Pit Stop with no rest period. To me, this is just a no-brainer. It's not really a pit stop if there is no rest period! A rest period is the very definition of "pit stop."
I like these but I hate it when they to a TBC leg when there is a chance to rest and (worst of all) bunch.
This season's Norway-Poland was a bad way to do a TBC leg. (Everyone ended up on the same ferry where they could sleep and rest. It would have worked better if it was a mobile Pit Stop)
As much as I love the TBC legs have to be done perfectly. They should only be done when they stay in the same city or they go to another place where there is plenty of transport options.
Other then that and the U-turn (I would say 3-4 u-turns a race), I agree with Hooky's list.
Side-note from your premiere episode request:TARAU did 2 hours premiere episode (and then in season 1, I think they did two or three 90 minutes episode). That is the way it should be done, CBS.
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This season's Norway-Poland was a bad way to do a TBC leg. (Everyone ended up on the same ferry where they could sleep and rest. It would have worked better if it was a mobile Pit Stop)
Sounds like the staff phoning it in. Maybe not, but they forgot the art of the TBC leg, and just threw it in just because. JMO.
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For me the only difference between a TBC leg and a KOR leg is that the first place team of the 'leg' gets a prize, since the last place team doesn't get a penalty for being, well, last. That's why in TAR14, the TBC China leg could be considered a KOR leg since Jaime & Cara said they received jet skis or something as a prize for coming in first, making TAR14 technically have 12 legs, instead of 11.
Also, TAR8 had an extended premiere (one and a half hours I think) that only featured the first leg. I really think they should do it again.
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^TAR9 did it too IIRC.
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For me the only difference between a TBC leg and a KOR leg is that the first place team of the 'leg' gets a prize, since the last place team doesn't get a penalty for being, well, last. That's why in TAR14, the TBC China leg could be considered a KOR leg since Jaime & Cara said they received jet skis or something as a prize for coming in first, making TAR14 technically have 12 legs, instead of 11.
Also, TAR8 had an extended premiere (one and a half hours I think) that only featured the first leg. I really think they should do it again.
IIRC, Seasons 6-9 all had a 2-hour premiere that featured Leg 1 only. Season 4-5 featured Leg 1 but was 90 minutes in length.
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I have a LOT to say...
CASTING:
• Get REAL casting directors (not from the Real Housewives of Faketopia or MTV) since the pretty, blond girls factor and NJ table flipping does absolutely nothing to boost viewership. It may work on CBS comedies, but not for high-staked competitions like TAR, Survivor, or Big Brother.
• STOP BRINGING IN PRO ATHLETES/ATHLETE RELATIVES! I liked the race better with everyday people who work hard and have a natural bond together. Natural bond + everyday life = relatable, interesting personalities
• No more twin teams, please.
ROUTE PLANNING:
• Please find new countries to visit. It doesn't matter if you go to one or five new countries. I just want to see more cultures the world has to offer than the been there, done that of China, Indonesia, Italy, and France. And please don't make an excuse for, "but we visit new locations," if you can't even go to at least one brand new country.
• The tasks need to be harder and less straightforward. Remember the tasks in TAR21 in Turkey? A task being done for you versus a task that requires heavy head balancing, the Speed Bump was eating ice cream, and the tea Roadblock put a snooze button on top. That was awful. What I want is the TAR7 & 10 style routes back.
• Add a sense of "clue" to the clues like:
EXAMPLE: "Travel to the city with the tallest building in the world and then take a taxi there!" (Dubai - Burj Khalifa)
• Bring back that lightbox stand at the Pit Stop that displayed the city and country teams raced in. :hoot: (Why in the world did they get rid of it?)
EDITING/PRODUCTION/MUSIC
• Give everyone a fair edit with the similar estimated amount of airtime.
• Don't show teams standing on the Pit Stop until they have finished all their provided tasks and received the clue to travel to the Pit Stop. It's so annoying when they haven't even started let alone finished the task and then they magically arrive at the Pit Stop happy as a clam. Do empanadas and shmozzle ring a bell?
• Let me critique the soundtrack played now. I loved the dramatically adventurous music that played during the TAR10-TAR17 era. It gave me a sense of adventure, excitement, and hustle that encouraged me to watch and root for every team, no matter how annoying they were. Now, the localized music and "calming" tunes makes TAR feel like a travel blog video parodying TAR. It doesn't make me want to jump up and down or give me a sense of tense moments. It doesn't offer much personality to work with.
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These are all great ideas!
No one wants to see TAR go away, so how can we make sure that this thread is seen by someone in production?
Do we think that it is already being viewed by production?
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One more thing I would like to see TAR do is to add more time stamps. They don't have to have them in every frame, but it's nice to see how long they actually did the task.
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I don't think they would do that because it would ruin suspense in producer-induced races to the pitstop etc.
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No one wants to see TAR go away, so how can we make sure that this thread is seen by someone in production?
Do we think that it is already being viewed by production?
I remember seeing an interview with van Munster and Doganieri and I think when asked about spoilers they said something about RFF, so production does come here. All we have to do is get this thread seen.
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We need to go back to the pre-TAR15 era. With the exception of 18 and 21 IMO, the better seasons all fall before TAR15, best casts, better suspense, simple, jaw dropping, just plain amazing. We have lost that 'amazing' factor just a teeny bit to what it was. I'm sure TAR will get going again and with next season it looks like it is going to be great.
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We need to go back to the pre-TAR15 era. With the exception of 18 and 21 IMO, the better seasons all fall before TAR15, best casts, better suspense, simple, jaw dropping, just plain amazing. We have lost that 'amazing' factor just a teeny bit to what it was. I'm sure TAR will get going again and with next season it looks like it is going to be great.
For the most part I agree with what you said, only TAR 15 & 17 were one of my favourite seasons EVER. I loved the cast, loved how dramatic and tense the seasons were. But where TAR is going now, it seems like it is getting softer and softer, they are shoving this cheap, soap-operish drama down our throats instead of the competitiveness they had before ;)
Perhaps I went a little too harsh, but what I wanted to put through is that obviously TAR was better a few years ago.
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We need to go back to the pre-TAR15 era. With the exception of 18 and 21 IMO, the better seasons all fall before TAR15, best casts, better suspense, simple, jaw dropping, just plain amazing. We have lost that 'amazing' factor just a teeny bit to what it was. I'm sure TAR will get going again and with next season it looks like it is going to be great.
I don't understand why people despise TAR17 so much. It has a better cast than mostly all (in my opinion, all) of the post-standard definition seasons and the route was really something. :res: I liked the cast of TAR21, it's the route that was just... Ugh! :tantrum
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Just out of curiosity, has TAR ever had a season with teams consisting of a returning racer and a different partner? For the life of me, I can't remember.
Like, there have only been 2 seasons with returning players... :lol:
In TAR11 Eric & Danielle were cast, remember? They both had different partners in their original season.
Oh yes, because they started dating right?
I think it would be cool to have a season with past racers and new partners.
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The thing is most of the racers say: "I would only race again with my previous partner". IDK, I really like seeing teams go back, not only half of it... just my opinion.
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Pre TAR 14 allstars.
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Bring back the gnome! :gnome
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I moved a lot of off topic discussions to the Previous Seasons Discussion thread.
If you all really want this to be read, then let's keep this SOLELY for thoughtful practical ideas of how our beloved TAR can actually be improved. What works? What doesn't?? What needs change? What doesn't?
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For me, one of the most intense things are the Fast Forwards tactics. In the first seasons it was kinda safe to go for one, since no more than 1 or 2 teams fight for one. That was not the best thing to do. About 1 or 2 per Race, I also think that is not OK, since it doesn't allow teams to skip it: You see it, you are in first, you go for it.
I would rather say that 4 Fast Forwards would be really good. You may skip the first one thinking in the future, or you may be able to surge ahead if you are in trouble in the first leg where it appears. IDK, I like it.
About the cost... I don't think it is a major cost to pay for one team bungee jumping in Donautrum, or one team searching for a needle in a haystack in Country X. What I mean, is that it is not costly to insert an extra task as you only have to make it for one team. It brings some fresh air to the Race, IMHO.
And. I also have to say that I miss the good Intersections. I loved how it worked in Madagascar, season 10. Didn't like it in Season 16. But I really miss it. Imagine 2 teams U-Turned because of being intersected. Drama <3
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lmao intersected u-turn :cmaslol
forcing two teams to work together for the detour and in the end racing each other to the pitstop
can't imagine the tension the teams must feel, esp if they don't like each other
i personally think FF task should be done by both team members. maybe another FF eating task? i assume that it's not costly.
and FF should be a task that requires the team to actually do something, not getting a tattoo.
anyway do you think a Mystery Detour would work?
like in the clue it only said Detour A or Detour B or something more creative and the name of the location.
All the instruction will be revealed when they reach the locations. or it won't change anything?
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Here are some honest changes I would make to TAR US.
1. Longer episodes - I loved it in TARAus when they had 90 minute episodes, as it meant there could be more challenges, more drama, and we could get to know the teams better. I would love to see longer episodes in TAR US, especially in the season opener... IMO, every season opener should be 90 mins or maybe 2 hours
2. More Night Legs - Every single night leg, I love... There is something cool about nigh legs! Now that TAR US has visited a lot of places, it seems destinations are being re-used. Here is where night legs can be used to make the place seem new again. For example, go back to Hong Kong and utilize the night scenery in a better way than TAR 17. Or go back to Sydney and have tasks around the Opera House at night, or the Harbour at night, or simply the city. Singapore is amazing at night, so use that... Its simple really!
3. Varied Routes - TAR22 nailed this, great scenery! From amazing Bora Bora, to New Zealand, to Africa, to Switzerland, I loved this route. The thing that made it so cool was how varied it was. We had beach in Bora Bora, snow in Switzerland, Open country in NZ, City in Great Britain... All routes should vary between landscapes
4. Better Leg Construction - I guess this goes hand in hand with my first point, but varying how the leg is constructed is something I have always wanted. In more recent seasons, the legs seem to generally go Pit Start - Route Info - Roadblock - Detour - Pit Stop (RB and Detour can switch of course). I'd love to see some variation to this, like a Roadblock straight from the Pit Start, or a few tasks which are somewhat challenging inbetween detours and roadblocks. Also, on legs with U-Turns, it should be ensured that the Detour comes before the Roadblock. Otherwise, you aren't allowing u-turned teams a chance to catch up. This really bugged me both with the Cowboys in TAR18, or the one in TAR22. Sure, it can add drama, but it really just makes it impossible for other teams to be eliminated.
5. Bring back old elements - It doesn't have to be every season, but it would be cool to see Yields, normal U-Turns or Intersections. It would just be a breath of fresh air every once in a while.
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Brooke & Marie for the next mashup team plz
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Brooke & Marie for the next mashup team plz
OMG yesplz <33333333
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I would like to see the intersection make a come back.
It would have been great in season 23. Who would have got stuck with Marie.
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I would like to see the intersection make a come back.
I know I sound reparative but TARAu did some great intersection tasks. The wood chopping in Poland (I think) was the best intersection ever.
Also it would be cool to have a reunion/after show like what TARCan did.
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Also it would be cool to have a reunion/after show like what TARCan did.
They could have a reunion show on TVGN even the day after or something.
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Brooke & Marie for the next mashup team plz
OMG yesplz <33333333
OMG...!!! :cmaslol
But i think Marie prefers racing with Katie (Max & Katie). I still want Brook racing with Mallory :kisses
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I'd like to see more opportunities for choice of how to get from A to B. Either multiple flight options, or in-city, travel by bus, subway, rickshaw, foot, etc. to ... Taxi races are getting boring.
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1.) Have leg 11 a double elimination (so the 5th and 4th place team get eliminated in the second to last leg).
2.) More countries
3.) Triple elimination
4.) I really liked the voting U-turn from TAR Aus 2
5.) New countries
6.) Start and/or end in a random place (Yellowstone or Montana or something weird, preferably a national park).
and last but not least....
7.) GO TO ANTARCTICA!!
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Unlike most people on this thread, I actually feel that the most recent seasons of TAR (22 and 23 specifically) have been great. There definitely are several things that could be improved, though.
1.Bring back the starting line task, and give the first person to finish an express pass.
2.Bring back the intersection.
3.Start/end in the midwest/mountain states/southwest.
4.Use 2-4 fast forwards per race.
5.Add a roadblock u-turn, which forces the other member of the team to complete the roadblock.
6.Add a double elimination either in the middle of the season (legs 5-8) or on the penultimate leg (11).
Finally, I have read some complaints on the quality of recent seasons, and cries to go to only one season per year. If this was done, I feel it would need to be a bigger race, with 16 or so legs, 14 or so teams and some 90 minute episodes. This last section is just speculation on my part.
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:hello2: and :bigwelcome to RFF, Boring Dude. :xmas49
Like your "EP on the starting line task" idea. :xmas146
I wonder if I posted that idea here... ???
And maybe to add to that idea, here's what I want to see:
1st EP - 1st to finish starting line task
2nd EP - 1st to get to airport
3rd EP - 1st leg prize
4th EP - to be given by the team who won leg 1
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5.Add a roadblock u-turn, which forces the other member of the team to complete the roadblock.
This is great. They definitely should do this. :cmas27
And maybe to add to that idea, here's what I want to see:
1st EP - 1st to finish starting line task
2nd EP - 1st to get to airport
3rd EP - 1st leg prize
4th EP - to be given by the team who won leg 1
I think that's too many Express Passes. One is to bring one team above the others in terms of advantages. Two is how the other teams would react to it and how much they're going to give to get that advantage from another team. Four is just crazy. But that's me anyway :cmaslol
I agree they should bring back the Starting Line tasks. The first to finish the task and the first to finish the leg could receive the two Express Passes instead of the giving-it-to-another-team mechanic. The last to finish the starting line task should receive a penalty, maybe the Hazard (which is basically a Speed Bump), or maybe they could incorporate the Marked for Elimination in this sense: The last team to finish the task would receive a 30-minute penalty if they don't finish the leg in first.
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-No more theme music please, enough of Globes theme music, and the Cowboys country stuff we get it you love them. :cmas11
-Intersections back for sure, I want teams to have to work with each other (hopefully teams that do not get along for drama)
-More interacting with the other teams maybe so we get to see why some teams eventually do not get along (or maybe share some stories etc. with the other teams like Sam and Dan sharing that they are gay to the other teams at the airport, was a nice moment)
I am sure I will think of more soon enough. :cmaslol
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Dear CBS,
I would like to see "The Making of The Amazing Race: A behind the scenes look at how an episode is put together."
Sincerely,
gator27 :cmastree
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Dear CBS,
I would like to see "The Making of The Amazing Race: A behind the scenes look at how an episode is put together."
Sincerely,
gator27 :cmastree
I LOVE this idea! :cheer: They could air a 1-hour long special on Saturday (whenever college football and basketball is off air) about this.
Also, I want Elimination Station and Phil's Diary back on TAR's CBS website.
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:hello2: and :bigwelcome to RFF, Boring Dude. :xmas49
Like your "EP on the starting line task" idea. :xmas146
I wonder if I posted that idea here... ???
And maybe to add to that idea, here's what I want to see:
1st EP - 1st to finish starting line task
2nd EP - 1st to get to airport
3rd EP - 1st leg prize
4th EP - to be given by the team who won leg 1
I like the idea, but I think that 4 EPs are a bit TOO much. I think that there could be 3 EPs, 1 for Starting Line, 1 for Winner, and 1 to give.
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Dear CBS,
I would like to see "The Making of The Amazing Race: A behind the scenes look at how an episode is put together."
Sincerely,
gator27 :cmastree
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Dear CBS,
I would like to see "The Making of The Amazing Race: A behind the scenes look at how an episode is put together."
Sincerely,
gator27 :cmastree
Awesome idea!! That along with 90 minute Premieres and an "After Race Show" would bring in loads of viewers...everyone wants the "dirt"!!
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No more Express Passes, please. :hrt: I miss the challenge of having ALL the teams struggle or do something unexpected to get first or avoid elimination.
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What does "IMO" mean? It is being used by people on the forums and I don't know what it means...
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What does "IMO" mean? It is being used by people on the forums and I don't know what it means...
In
My
Opinion
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Dear CBS,
I would like to see "The Making of The Amazing Race: A behind the scenes look at how an episode is put together."
Sincerely,
gator27 :cmastree
I LOVE this idea! :cheer: They could air a 1-hour long special on Saturday (whenever college football and basketball is off air) about this.
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I actually like the brainy type of starting line challenge and according to the order teams finish the task, they get the earlier tickets to the next destination. But I think with this definitely the producers will also try to put in a Hazard for the team who finishes the task last.. which I don't know what to feel about it yet.. I guess it's okay.. but the team will already be majorly affected by being on the second flight. Making them complete another task can be devastating? :cmas12
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I would LOVE to see the return of the Yield, or the yield with a twist:
Place 3 sealed cards with the Yield one with 15mins, one 30mins and the last 45mins. (taking a standard of 30mins?)
The team picks a card and could benefit or could be hit with more.
But I would take just the standard Yield back :lol:
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I actually like the brainy type of starting line challenge and according to the order teams finish the task, they get the earlier tickets to the next destination. But I think with this definitely the producers will also try to put in a Hazard for the team who finishes the task last.. which I don't know what to feel about it yet.. I guess it's okay.. but the team will already be majorly affected by being on the second flight. Making them complete another task can be devastating? :cmas12
This! I do not like teams being in separated flights because of the arrival order to the airport.
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I want the Intersection to return. (I know, I am weird.)
P.S. Only if it is well-implemented, though, like the Intersection in Krakow (which would've been even better if the Roadblock wasn't so lame).
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I actually like the brainy type of starting line challenge and according to the order teams finish the task, they get the earlier tickets to the next destination. But I think with this definitely the producers will also try to put in a Hazard for the team who finishes the task last.. which I don't know what to feel about it yet.. I guess it's okay.. but the team will already be majorly affected by being on the second flight. Making them complete another task can be devastating? :cmas12
This! I do not like teams being in separated flights because of the arrival order to the airport.
I think I may be the only one in this forum that actually likes the airport arrival-determined flights than the starting line tasks. The start line task just seems a little less exciting and adventurous to me. The only thing I would include in the premiere is the airport parking shuttling that we haven't seen since TAR17. Loved Mary's reaction when seeing the BQ's on the same shuttle-airport bus as them.
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I actually like the brainy type of starting line challenge and according to the order teams finish the task, they get the earlier tickets to the next destination. But I think with this definitely the producers will also try to put in a Hazard for the team who finishes the task last.. which I don't know what to feel about it yet.. I guess it's okay.. but the team will already be majorly affected by being on the second flight. Making them complete another task can be devastating? :cmas12
This! I do not like teams being in separated flights because of the arrival order to the airport.
I think I may be the only one in this forum that actually likes the airport arrival-determined flights than the starting line tasks. The start line task just seems a little less exciting and adventurous to me. The only thing I would include in the premiere is the airport parking shuttling that we haven't seen since TAR17. Loved Mary's reaction when seeing the BQ's on the same shuttle-airport bus as them.
This was one of my favourite parts to the season premieres
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Roadblock related: (2)
Instead of a "u-turn" roadblock thing (I don't like this because it makes roadblock count complicated.), I wanna see something like a "blind" roadblock.
Wherein instead of a roadblock question, it would say "blind roadblock." Teams who have a deal about alternating their roadblocks would most likely not have a problem with this. But for teams who look at the question and then choose a team member, it's going to be a bit harder for them to decide.
(Advanced) Blind Roadblock: To make things harder, the roadblock details are not in the clue, but are all within the roadblock location.
Of course this will not work for every roadblock, but it'd be great to see something new. :reindeer
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About u-turns this time:
Surprise U-turn: Same function as a normal u-turn, except it's not mentioned in any clue (1st clue, detour clue, post-detour clue). Main purpose: It defeats u-turn alliances like: "No u-turning, okay?" "There's an upcoming u-turn, who should we u-turn?"
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I like both methods of flight division (Start Line Task and Airport Arrivals) but for both they have to do it right.
If they do the Airport Arrival based flight then they have to show the foot race to the counter and show what happens in the parking shuttle (if there is one). How they did it the last couple of seasons is too rushed. It was basically "Go", clue (your going to country X), a couple of teams saying "Oh my god we are on TAR", briefly show arrival order so we know what flights they are on before they land in country X.
If they do a Start Line Task, the task has to be hard task. I don't want to see a team find their clue or do whatever they have to do in 2 seconds ". 15 and 18 did this pretty well (some could argue because there was some sort of penalty for last place) but the other times it felt like it was too rushed and I didn't know what happened because before you knew it they were flying to another place. (I almost forgot 20 had one)
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If it's an SLT can it not be linear/luck because they are boring and pointless. You need like something logical or something :lol:
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Things I'd like to see in the modern premiere episodes:
Non-LAX starting location, seriously! We haven't seen a new metropolis or airport being visited since Unfinished Business (Palm Springs). It has gotten to the point where a miscellaneous bridge for a pointless rappel is being featured. If they can't afford to begin the race in another state, go to San Diego or San Francisco/Oakland. There's certainly more diversity to CA than Los Angeles.
Airport parking shuttling We haven't seen the classic TAR moments on airport-shuttle buses since TAR17. It is a fantastic way for teams to start interacting with their opponents and help/not help each other out. Also, it gives time for newly-formed friendships to sprout and flight decisions.
Show ALL teams GETTING their tickets Other than having Phil narrate which teams depart at which time to "X" country, show the teams getting their airline tickets. The HD seasons so far have failed to understand the point of giving reasonable, even edits. For example: TAR20 broadcasted Kerri & Stacy finding their first clue in 4th, but were on the LAST plane to Cafayate?... TAR21 showed the Twinnies and Josh & Brent standing in line at the airport, but never showed Trexi nor Rob & Sheila arriving at the airport.
Mix the Detour and Roadblock usage The Detour was last seen on Leg 1 ten seasons ago. I want to see the return of the Detour in the first Leg. Shanghai (Serve or Eat) and Bora Bora - va'a (Skydive or Sand Up) could have been the perfect opportunity to bring back the Detour.
And of course...
Play more intriguing, race music!!! I don't know why, but the latest HD seasons' soundtrack sounds more suited for an undersea shark movie than a high-stakes race for $1 million. In fact, I loved the exciting music included from TAR10-TAR17. More notably, the intense Charla & Mirna vs. Romber and David & Mary Pit Stop race, Marisa & Brooke vs. Aja & Ty Detour finish, and Jaime & Cara vs. Kisha & Jen's taxi race to the Pit Stop.
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I actually like the brainy type of starting line challenge and according to the order teams finish the task, they get the earlier tickets to the next destination. But I think with this definitely the producers will also try to put in a Hazard for the team who finishes the task last.. which I don't know what to feel about it yet.. I guess it's okay.. but the team will already be majorly affected by being on the second flight. Making them complete another task can be devastating? :cmas12
This! I do not like teams being in separated flights because of the arrival order to the airport.
I think I may be the only one in this forum that actually likes the airport arrival-determined flights than the starting line tasks. The start line task just seems a little less exciting and adventurous to me. The only thing I would include in the premiere is the airport parking shuttling that we haven't seen since TAR17. Loved Mary's reaction when seeing the BQ's on the same shuttle-airport bus as them.
The Shuttles were in the TAR 22 Premier. Idries and Jamil told Pam and Winnie that they were "delivery men."
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Just tossing out an idea: what if TAR had a season with teams of 3? This would allow for totally different team dynamics, and could bring fresh new types of tasks to the show.
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Just tossing out an idea: what if TAR had a season with teams of 3? This would allow for totally different team dynamics, and could bring fresh new types of tasks to the show.
I once thought about it. But it is supercostly... That is why TARFE was an American i$$ue.
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I like the order of arrival at the airport as well! But I would love for them to NOT tell them which one is the better flight, and for the possible scenarios to occur:
1. Careless teams who just book themselves on the slower flight without checking
2. Teams arriving at the slower counter and having a mad dash to the faster one
3. Teams arriving at the faster counter and reserving spots for other teams, resulting in EPIC DRAMA
4. Faster teams being total smug about their prowness in getting the first flight but only to get eliminated that leg
5. The faster flight getting delayed and getting in perhaps 5-15 mins earlier or later than the later flight
I know, I'm evil. :funny:
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I like the order of arrival at the airport as well! But I would love for them to NOT tell them which one is the better flight, and for the possible scenarios to occur:
1. Careless teams who just book themselves on the slower flight without checking
2. Teams arriving at the slower counter and having a mad dash to the faster one
3. Teams arriving at the faster counter and reserving spots for other teams, resulting in EPIC DRAMA
4. Faster teams being total smug about their prowness in getting the first flight but only to get eliminated that leg
5. The faster flight getting delayed and getting in perhaps 5-15 mins earlier or later than the later flight
I know, I'm evil. :funny:
I LOVE all of this <3
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I like the order of arrival at the airport as well! But I would love for them to NOT tell them which one is the better flight, and for the possible scenarios to occur:
1. Careless teams who just book themselves on the slower flight without checking
2. Teams arriving at the slower counter and having a mad dash to the faster one
3. Teams arriving at the faster counter and reserving spots for other teams, resulting in EPIC DRAMA
4. Faster teams being total smug about their prowness in getting the first flight but only to get eliminated that leg
5. The faster flight getting delayed and getting in perhaps 5-15 mins earlier or later than the later flight
I know, I'm evil. :funny:
I LOVE all of this <3
Love it.
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I like the order of arrival at the airport as well! But I would love for them to NOT tell them which one is the better flight, and for the possible scenarios to occur:
1. Careless teams who just book themselves on the slower flight without checking
2. Teams arriving at the slower counter and having a mad dash to the faster one
3. Teams arriving at the faster counter and reserving spots for other teams, resulting in EPIC DRAMA
4. Faster teams being total smug about their prowness in getting the first flight but only to get eliminated that leg
5. The faster flight getting delayed and getting in perhaps 5-15 mins earlier or later than the later flight
I know, I'm evil. :funny:
All of them have happened. :funny:
1. Season 11
2. Countless seasons
3. Not in first leg, and not involving airplanes but it has happened in Season 16.
4. Season 23 with Leo & Jamal.
5. Countless seasons
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3. happened in TAR5 dooming Dennis & Erika because Dennis wanted to prove he wasn't a scumbag :(
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I'd like to see 3 U-Turns in a season. It would be very interesting if teams don't expect a third double U-Turn and teams could possibly get revenge for earlier U-Turns and such. Especially a U-Turn in the first 3 legs.
I'd love to see a documentary about the Race, The sort of behind the scenes planning a little but not too much and maybe a run through of a season to show how frantic it is to set everything up and the mad dashes from location to location.
Also for one more change, I'd like to see a season without Asia at all. I know it's a signature continent but I'd like to see continents like Africa and Oceania be featured more often and possibly spend a few more legs there.
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I'd love to see a documentary about the Race, The sort of behind the scenes planning a little but not too much and maybe a run through of a season to show how frantic it is to set everything up and the mad dashes from location to location.
That would become one interesting documentary for me! :tup:
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This might sound like a stupid idea but what if they allow team to communicate and mingle with each other at pit stops, then film it for a web extra.
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This might sound like a stupid idea but what if they allow team to communicate and mingle with each other at pit stops, then film it for a web extra.
I think if it wasn't shown on TV (and I don't think it would due to time and boringness (rating) issue), I wouldn't like that :/ Like, alliances would be formed off-screen and we just wouldn't understand some things shown and why some team didn't help the other or sth like that...
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I have a couple of ideas (although I'm not sure if I've mentioned them before).
Stop Sign: One team can force another team to have both members perform the Roadblock (there would be ways to make this "more fair," but I couldn't think of any of those ideas).
Triple U-Turns? I'm not fully on board with this though...it might be too confusing.
2 Express Passes, one is for the winner of the first leg, one is for the winner of the second leg. If the team that wins Leg 1 also wins Leg 2, the second EP must be given away by the end of the specified leg.
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Triple U-Turn would be great, my only guess for why they haven't is because usually teams that are left used all their U-Turns up by Leg 9 or 10. Bring back a surprise Yield maybe? (Even though that probably isn't as effective as a UTurn.) I'd love for them to have 3 UTurns, 2 express passes, and an intersection (with an actual challenge that makes intersecting useful or troublesome, not something lame like "go bungee jump together"...why are we even intersected if we're just doing something I could have done by myself?...)
Would be amazing to see more off-the-beaten path islands, like Trinidad & Tobago or even Bora Bora again (those first two legs were BEAUTIFUL last season.)
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To be honest, an Express Pass or a holiday trip / 10,000 dollars EACH (usually in earlier seasons) for winning the first leg?, I'll take the prize.
The Express Pass usually (in recent seasons) just helps to ensure you win the leg OR avoid elimination on the leg that the team is not even in danger of being eliminated. And on the one occasion the team is in danger, the team chose not to use it. Awesome.
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I like the order of arrival at the airport as well! But I would love for them to NOT tell them which one is the better flight, and for the possible scenarios to occur:
1. Careless teams who just book themselves on the slower flight without checking
2. Teams arriving at the slower counter and having a mad dash to the faster one
3. Teams arriving at the faster counter and reserving spots for other teams, resulting in EPIC DRAMA
4. Faster teams being total smug about their prowness in getting the first flight but only to get eliminated that leg
5. The faster flight getting delayed and getting in perhaps 5-15 mins earlier or later than the later flight
I know, I'm evil. :funny:
All of them have happened. :funny:
I know, and that's why I listed all of them down.
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The Express Pass usually (in recent seasons) just helps to ensure you win the leg OR avoid elimination on the leg that the team is not even in danger of being eliminated. And on the one occasion the team is in danger, the team chose not to use it. Awesome.
:funny: I can relate. :funny:
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In order to keep the express pass concept fresh, I have an idea. In the actual race, teams have to use it on or before the 8th leg. What if teams were given an additional $500,000 if they handed in their express pass at the end of the 8th leg without using it, AND later won the race. This would create even more tension on whether or not to use the pass, and could result in some interesting outcomes.
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In order to keep the express pass concept fresh, I have an idea. In the actual race, teams have to use it on or before the 8th leg. What if teams were given an additional $500,000 if they handed in their express pass at the end of the 8th leg without using it, AND later won the race. This would create even more tension on whether or not to use the pass, and could result in some interesting outcomes.
I like it (but I would make the bonus double )
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In order to keep the express pass concept fresh, I have an idea. In the actual race, teams have to use it on or before the 8th leg. What if teams were given an additional $500,000 if they handed in their express pass at the end of the 8th leg without using it, AND later won the race. This would create even more tension on whether or not to use the pass, and could result in some interesting outcomes.
I like it (but I would make the bonus double )
Doubling the prize money would be way to much incentive to not use it. It would destroy the Express Pass.
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Maybe make it worth like $10,000 or $20,000 if not used until the 8th leg and you don't necessarily have to win the race. It would be some incentive, but not a major one.
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In order to keep the express pass concept fresh, I have an idea. In the actual race, teams have to use it on or before the 8th leg. What if teams were given an additional $500,000 if they handed in their express pass at the end of the 8th leg without using it, AND later won the race. This would create even more tension on whether or not to use the pass, and could result in some interesting outcomes.
Maybe make it worth like $10,000 or $20,000 if not used until the 8th leg and you don't necessarily have to win the race. It would be some incentive, but not a major one.
I like the first idea, but the second one's better. :)
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Maybe make it worth like $10,000 or $20,000 if not used until the 8th leg and you don't necessarily have to win the race. It would be some incentive, but not a major one.
$20,000 would be good. Express Pass or $20,000 if it's not used by Leg 8 (And maybe if the team comes in first as well). CBS READ THIS.
Like that, teams who won the first leg legitimately will win something rather than just a piece of paper.. it's a huge help, but I haven't really seen an instance where the Express Pass was used legitimately after 7 seasons. Sigh.
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It was so good when they changed some of the sound tracks for TAR 14. It was so refreshing and entertaining the entire season. Then it went downhill ever since.
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Several productions interviews keep saying "we read the message boards" and "the fans wanted to see XX back again, that's why they were chosen" ... :res:
Here is where you can suggest changes: ESPECIALLY CAST SUGGESTIONS (ALL new non celebrity-ish racers PLEASE!--see TARC and TARaus for ideas, lol)
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,29612.0.html (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,29612.0.html)
But let's keep THIS thread for ratings info/discussion only please.
I think the producers meant "FACEBOOK". :res: :res: :res: And I have no idea which message board do they read, because I can't find one where people are screaming they want to see Flight Time and Big Easy. :funny: :funny: :funny:
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Twitter. I usually see FT&BE being mentioned in twitter with something positive said about them.
People do like them and root for them for some odd reason.
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It's weird that almost the whole world hates twinnies (on Facebook) and afghanimals and they still called them back then? :funny:
And nobody remembered Caroline and Jennifer.
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Not so much a change as such, but more a what NOT do to.
Please CBS, don't do what you did at the beginning of last nights episode. I want to see the Intro.
That is all. :lol:
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Not so much a change as such, but more a what NOT do to.
Please CBS, don't do what you did at the beginning of last nights episode. I want to see the Intro.
That is all. :lol:
I guess it's permanent now. CBS gets an extra 30 second commercial I guess.
(:;)
So anyway... what do you call what they did for that slow-mo Brenchel Detour montage? Not just slow motion, but it was a more cinematic visual style that's standard on TARAu and TARC I believe. I wish TAR would do that for entire episodes.
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Not so much a change as such, but more a what NOT do to.
Please CBS, don't do what you did at the beginning of last nights episode. I want to see the Intro.
That is all. :lol:
I guess it's permanent now. CBS gets an extra 30 second commercial I guess.
(:;)
So anyway... what do you call what they did for that slow-mo Brenchel Detour montage? Not just slow motion, but it was a more cinematic visual style that's standard on TARAu and TARC I believe. I wish TAR would do that for entire episodes.
I was watching it like - :wtf: when that happened. Really didn't like it! :res:
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Not so much a change as such, but more a what NOT do to.
Please CBS, don't do what you did at the beginning of last nights episode. I want to see the Intro.
That is all. :lol:
I guess it's permanent now. CBS gets an extra 30 second commercial I guess.
(:;)
So anyway... what do you call what they did for that slow-mo Brenchel Detour montage? Not just slow motion, but it was a more cinematic visual style that's standard on TARAu and TARC I believe. I wish TAR would do that for entire episodes.
I'm caling it the 'Survivor cut'. :) Now I don't watch Survivor, so I don't know if they use it often (or use it at all), but I think it's appropriate for that scene. They where in the Bornean forest and Brendon & Rachel were in a task that was very tribal themed. I laughed when I saw it (particularly because Brendon & Rachel are now in the CBS's Big 3 reality shows). I liked it, but I don't think they should keep it unless it's used for specific things like this. Maybe production was just trying it out?
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Yeah, not so much the slow motion, but a more cinematic look that you can see on TARAu or TARC. They look completely different from how TARUS looks, but them using the slow motion was the closest they've come to look like how TARAu/TARC look. Which is one change I want to see them make.
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I LOVED the Survivor montage. I wish they did it more often. The music, the slow mo effects. Really refreshing and a change to their normal editing. :funny:
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- A classic format, like when teams finish a task and they get a departure time for the next leg. At least the 1st team eliminated gets to race for more than a day.
THIS. SOMEBODY HIT THE RIGHT NOTE.
This is the reason why I haven't been able to enjoy ANY PREMIERE since a long long time ago. When was the last time they did the departure thing. Was it in TAR 10?
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TAR12 had one... not sure about later ones
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I believe it was TAR14, because...
TAR24: wedding shops, nope.
TAR23: paragliding, nope.
TAR22: sandcastle leg, nope.
TAR21: lady with an abacus, nope.
TAR20: empañadas, nope.
TAR19: the only season and only leg with a hazard, nope.
TAR18: tank roadblock, nope.
TAR17: watermelons! nope.
TAR16: cable roadblock, nope.
TAR15: wasabi! nope.
TAR14: cheese! iirc, the last one was 10 seasons ago! :ascared
- A classic format, like when teams finish a task and they get a departure time for the next leg. At least the 1st team eliminated gets to race for more than a day.
THIS. SOMEBODY HIT THE RIGHT NOTE.
This is the reason why I haven't been able to enjoy ANY PREMIERE since a long long time ago. When was the last time they did the departure thing. Was it in TAR 10?
Agree with you there. :kuss:
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Personally I don't think having a departure time will fix the situation with terrible leg 1s, there just needs to be really difficult tasks that are interesting and shake things up.
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- A classic format, like when teams finish a task and they get a departure time for the next leg. At least the 1st team eliminated gets to race for more than a day.
THIS. SOMEBODY HIT THE RIGHT NOTE.
This is the reason why I haven't been able to enjoy ANY PREMIERE since a long long time ago. When was the last time they did the departure thing. Was it in TAR 10?
While I agree that I'd like for all teams to enjoy the Race and be able to race for more than a day, I wouldn't really call departure times a "racing day." In TAR14, for example, they arrived in Locarno and signed up. There were no tasks, just signing up. TAR 13, however, had teams do tasks, sign up and spend the night, and then do more tasks. That's what I call racing for more than a day.
Although, one could argue that with transportation, teams ARE technically "racing" for more than a day.
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Part of me would actually like to see some fresh faces in the major behind the scenes roles who get what make the international versions of the show such as TARAus and TARCan such joys to watch. I don't know what the actual sort of licensing involved with doing tasks based on major franchises/cultural things for the Race are but there are so many iconic franchises that have become engraved in our culture outside of the USA, I mean you go over to England and You've got Top Gear, Doctor Who, Harry Potter. You go to Japan and you've got things like Dragonball Z, Pokemon, Nintendo. You go to Sweden, You've got Minecraft. Some of the locations are beloved by producers and that's fine but there is a point where a place becomes sort of stale especially when you revisit some of the locations so many times.
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Maybe we can have a roadblock version of an u-turn ,
which requires the racer who did not take part in the roadblock previously to complete the roadblock :o
i think it may cause some interesting dramas
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I'm not against that idea, but I think it will make the roadblock count more confusing. :ascared
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Maybe we can have a roadblock version of an u-turn ,
which requires the racer who did not take part in the roadblock previously to complete the roadblock :o
i think it may cause some interesting dramas
I'm not against that idea, but I think it will make the roadblock count more confusing. :ascared
But what if some tasks can't be performed by some racers, like Big Easy? However, for the Roadblock count, the second Roadblock probably won't be added to the count.
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Not so much a change as such, but more a what NOT do to.
Please CBS, don't do what you did at the beginning of last nights episode. I want to see the Intro.
That is all. :lol:
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I want RACING.
Teams using travel skills. Find a FERN. Make your way. And then SHOW us that. Don't make us wonder how Team XYZ got ahead or behind. If they got help from a local, SHOW us.
Teams who have to FIND/figure out the "Big Thunder".
Teams who have to FIND and BOOK their own flights, not production provided ones.
Great tasks that ALLOW for placement shifts. NON LINEAR legs. Every episode should have at least two ways for teams to catch up.
NEVER provide only two flights and separate them by 3 :dick hours. And if you do, make an hours of op right after, followed by some task that will shake things up.
SELF-Navigation. Use local transport more, self driving. (remember self driving?? ??? )
sigh....
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Self navigation was one of my favourite parts of the show. Even in say season 17, two teams in Oman had been lost for ours on end, but still ended up in a foot (drive) race to the pit stop! I also miss the driving to the airport on leg 1 :(
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The only times I remember those things remotely happening = TAR 21, peachy. :(
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They should've also informed us on the time credits on the beginning of the 2nd episode. :(
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I want the INTRO INTRO INTRO.
I never thought I would be yelling about this on TAR. :res:
Hopefully they're preparing a cool new intro and the lack of full intros for the past eps are just placeholders.
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No-pre determined flight which is the faster flight takes more teams pls :)
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They should've also informed us on the time credits on the beginning of the 2nd episode. :(
I can count on one hand the # of times THAT has happened.
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New Countries!
Start other place then L.A.!
12 Teams in a season!
Stronger female teams like Dustin and Candice, Brook and Claire & Nat and Kat! :hrt: :hrt: :hrt: :hrt:
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For me, if they teams do have to fly to another city in the middle of a leg, it would be better if they have predetermined flight plans set up by production. It's because I prefer teams being evenly divided than going through a flight bottle neck in the middle of the leg, which would cancel out the front running teams' lead.
However, this season hasn't yet provided anything that evens out all of the teams at the start of the legs. Which is a bit sad and gives the teams in front too much of an advantage. :( But, I understand that the two Malaysia legs were replacements so it could justify some things? How did we confirm this again? ???
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For me, if they teams do have to fly to another city in the middle of a leg, it would be better if they have predetermined flight plans set up by production. It's because I prefer teams being evenly divided than going through a flight bottle neck in the middle of the leg, which would cancel out the front running teams' lead.
However, this season hasn't yet provided anything that evens out all of the teams at the start of the legs. Which is a bit sad and gives the teams in front too much of an advantage. :( But, I understand that the two Malaysia legs were replacements so it could justify some things? How did we confirm this again? ???
Both Malaysian legs were!? :faint: Does anybody have the source?
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Just speculation that maybe one Melbourne leg and 2 Philippines leg were cancelled.
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Just speculation that maybe one Melbourne leg and 2 Philippines leg were cancelled.
:faint: :gaah: :ascared :'( :'( :'(
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I'd love to see another east coast start since it has been so long since we have seen one. The last time we got one was a europe first leg and the last time we had one was TAR17. Maybe we will get one for TAR25.
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I'd love to see another east coast start since it has been so long since we have seen one. The last time we got one was a europe first leg and the last time we had one was TAR17. Maybe we will get one for TAR25.
Yes! The Los Angeles - TAR relationship is now like the plague, repetitively infesting the TAR course and getting sick of it. I'd like them to start and finish in cities BESIDES L.A. Even a start in West Virginia could do justice for variety.
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I'd LOVE for the Intro to HAVE THE TEAMS IN IT!
Hopefully they'll use it once they have the updated intro with teams racing....
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I'd LOVE for the Intro to HAVE THE TEAMS IN IT!
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I was bored and compiled most of everything said in this thread. So here you go:
TASKS & ROUTE MARKERS
- a good, difficult, confusing finale memory challenge
- increase number of U-Turns, and/or bring back Yield, Intersection, Hazard, and single U-Turns
- a difficult starting line task
- increase the number of night legs
- increase self-navigation and self-driving
- bring back the departure time slots for the next day of the earlier seasons
- odd eliminations (e.g. at Keep Racing legs, double-elimination at Leg 11)
- remove Keep Racing legs if it's not going to be a double-length leg with a bunching transportation in between.
- choose another starting line city
- visit new countries and one-time visited countries more
- no linear tasks, get tasks that are confusing and would take timeand change placements (and not 5-minute tasks where teams finish in the order they went in. IIRC, they used to cut those out of the episode, and now...)
- increase difficulty of all tasks, especially Fast Forwards
- present Fast Forward as a strategic option rather than an auto-first place button. And never just have ONE Fast Forward per season (e.g. 4 to 6)
- try a season of not visiting Asia
- allow teams the more freedom of choice for transportation
EDITING
- more than one-hour premieres (1.5 or 2 hours long) that features only the first leg, making it a difficult one.
- return the suspenseful and grandeur feeling of the music of the pre-S18 seasons.
- DO NOT encourage team theme songs
- add effects akin to TAR Canada and TAR Australia
- don't skip any teams' arrival and finishes in tasks and clue boxes, I mean c'mon.
- don't cut the intro's team montage
- equal airtime for teams
OTHERS
- the location signpost at each pit stop.
- return of the Elimination Station.
- Behind the Scenes type of program for TAR
- make clues so teams actually have to decipher them.
- allow teams to find a Fern (a local tag-along helping a team)
- allow teams to interact with each other during downtime and show some of it
- add a fresh twist per season
- cut teams evenly (e.g. for production-provided flights) but never too far apart
CASTING
- change of mechanics of casting the teams
- increase everyday people teams and decrease used-to-camera teams or pro-athlete teams
- return of teams from the very early seasons for an All Star season (S1-S13, S19)
- increase number of all-female teams per season (constant number 4 MM teams, and a record 8 MF teams in S6)
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I agree with generally everything Karpov617 addressed. Though... the signed twists could be refreshed. It has been since TAR12 we have last seen a different power that can be used to slow down other teams (TAR17 is just an additional U-Turn, not a brand new signage).
After TAR24, there's no way I'm paying attention to any more returning teams especially those who don't even deserve it (John & Jess, Caroline & Jennifer, three-timers). Also, I don't know why, but ever since TAR18, I've started to grow apart from rooting for F/F teams. It's not because TAR17 & 18 had F/F winners in a row, it's simply because they show minimal or tiring personalities. I want to see F/F teams who have racing spirit, and actually have a sister-like bond with each other. Not some Ally & Ashley "get this over with" attitude (no offense).
Also, let's see a new non-elimination consequence instead of the Speed Bump. I actually enjoyed "marked for elimination" and being stripped of almost all belongings more since Speed Bumps have gotten more and more restrained/budgeted. The first ever one dealing with yoga rocked since Kynt & Vyxsin had to travel to another place and challenge themselves physically to quickly finish it before going back to where they left off. Now take the previous episode's for example, add one color to 15 t-shirts in the same factory as the Roadblock to continue racing. That's basic comprehension, not very challenging.
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Speedbumps are usually easy, but after seeing the last one, I think TAR should change the non-elimination penalty. (I'm getting bored with it being unchanged.) MFE was one of the best I could remember.
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More of a wish, but it's also something I wanna see: Have a NEL with 10 teams.
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For me, I just hope TAR doesn't follow such a typical type of route again.
LEG 1-2: China
3-4: Malaysia
5-6: Sri Lanka
7-8: Italy
I think the most we should have is 2 legs in the same country twice in a season. (Always China/India) (TAR Allstars had 2 legs in the same country thrice... but Australia is HUGE, same with China and I can really pardon that) As compared to Malaysia and Sri Lanka which is really small (as comparable) and I really think they should have just moved on to another country. Even then, Malaysia showed 2 sides of the country (the developed and the rural side).. but Sri Lanka did nothing for me.
But I really feel that considering the budget and how close each country is to each other, they could have easily done another country in the following leg. For example, go down to Singapore if they had to add to the country list (I don't care if S'pore has nothing to offer)... because if they can go to Indonesia four times in five seasons, they can go to Singapore for the third time.
They could have easily went to India after Sri Lanka as well, or Swiss and Slovenia after Italy... Such a route like what we had for this Allstars is really boring, especially when there's NO new countries and NO new teams...
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Most seasons have thrice? TAR20 Argentina/Tanzania/India, TAR21 China/Indonesia/Bangladesh, TAR22 Fr. Pol/Botswana/UK, TAR23 Chile/UAE/Indonesia?
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Only in recent seasons especially?... which is really disappointing. It used to be 2 countries twice in a season and then suddenly in recent seasons... (and worst, this season), it's 4 times for the first 8 legs. -_-
I know TAR 5 has thrice too. Argentina, Egypt and Phil~
I think I'm more particular about it for this season because I don't remember another season where they did double legs in the same country FOUR times in a row.
TAR 2 did it 4 times for Brazil, Thailand, Aussie (FOUR different continents too!) and USA but they had other countries in between so there's really like much more variety.
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Double legs in countries are fine if the destinations are sufficiently different. TAR 18 had double legs in Australia, China, and India, but each leg featured a different area of the country. Guangzhou and Colombo should have been one leg, but admittedly bad weather messed up a lot of the producers' plans I feel.
More importantly, please no more three-continent routes. This race spent way too much time in Asia.
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The only case when I root for double leg is when a new country is featured. For example the Czech Republic in 15, Philippines in 5 or Malawi in 19. Three or more double legs in one season are killing the spirit of the Amazing Race. For me, there is nothing worse.
Talking about new countries... I fully understand that it might be quite hard to travel and arrange all these customs/tax/travel/safety things. But there are many countries, members of the European Union, that haven't been visited. For example Slovakia, Latvia, Malta, Slovenia... they are quite easily accessible, cheaper than Italy/Spain, can bring fresh ideas (I have tons of them in my head now), very safe and thanks to EU, customs and permit related issues are not complicated.
This MUST be improved.
Since fall's seasons are shoot in summer, when the weather in Europe tends to be beautiful, I hope and quite believe we will see a new (european?) country this fall. Otherwise, the spirit of the Amazing Race will be gone for me.
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We're about two thirds of the way through the season and we have only been to four countries :crazy: :gaah:
My overall thoughts are this would be a good season if wasn't All Stars. This season could of been so much better but if anything positive comes out of this season is I hope that the producer's have learnt the following lessons
1. No more hybrid teams. They just haven't worked at all.
2. No more three-timers. They haven't really bought anything to the table at all and have proven to be wasted spots that could of been better filled.
3. Don't try to lie about the route. The average viewer is expecting four continents and nine countries because that is what they were told they would get. The average viewer doesn't like being lied to CBS
4. Don't try to build up sob stories when it is going to backfire. Case in point with Dave & Connor, the casuals have turned on them as of this episode for Dave's whining, If a team has a major change in personality and it is obvious don't lie to us in the edit. The casual fans have turned new leafs on Brenchel and the Afghanimals and it shows.
5. If you don't think you can get the cast you need for a All Stars season then push it back or rename. I know that casting can be a logical nightmare especially when casting a returning season but if you are unsure the cast is worthy of being called All Stars then change the subtitle. Unfinished Business was a good subtitle and theme for the season, Redemption would of worked well for this season.
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5. If you don't think you can get the cast you need for a All Stars season then push it back or rename. I know that casting can be a logical nightmare especially when casting a returning season but if you are unsure the cast is worthy of being called All Stars then change the subtitle. Unfinished Business was a good subtitle and theme for the season, Redemption would of worked well for this season.
The thing is, there were plenty other teams who actually were better All-Star worthy teams, yet they decided NOT to invite them.
Bertram and Co: :crazy:
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5. If you don't think you can get the cast you need for a All Stars season then push it back or rename. I know that casting can be a logical nightmare especially when casting a returning season but if you are unsure the cast is worthy of being called All Stars then change the subtitle. Unfinished Business was a good subtitle and theme for the season, Redemption would of worked well for this season.
The thing is, there were plenty other teams who actually were better All-Star worthy teams, yet they decided NOT to invite them.
Bertram and Co: :crazy:
Which makes it even more blaffling as to why they brought back Cowboys, Globes & Margie & Luke. We could of had the Chippendales, Trey & Lexi, Tim & Marie, Bill & Cathi, Amani & Marcus, Max & Katie, Pam & Winnie, Abbie & Ryan, James & Abba hell I would of been happy to see Joey "Fitness" and Danny return.
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This has definitely been one of the weakest seasons to date. To be fair, there seems to be an amount of last minute substitutions going on, so I'll take that into account. But that's so excuse, sorry!
I have to complain about the stationing of the Double U-Turn. First of all, I do not think it's fair for a team to be U-Turned and then before they complete the other side of the Detour they are allowed to U-Turn another team?! I think that's just silly to penalise another team before you have even served your own penalty. It just doesn't make sense. Not to mention when the U-Turn is positioned pointlessly and just completely goes to waste.
The Double U-Turn is a great concept because unlike a single U-Turn, it gives the team a chance to face an opponent, however it has only been played out how it should in a few circumstances.
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This has definitely been one of the weakest seasons to date. To be fair, there seems to be an amount of last minute substitutions going on, so I'll take that into account. But that's so excuse, sorry!
I have to complain about the stationing of the Double U-Turn. First of all, I do not think it's fair for a team to be U-Turned and then before they complete the other side of the Detour they are allowed to U-Turn another team?! I think that's just silly to penalise another team before you have even served your own penalty. It just doesn't make sense. Not to mention when the U-Turn is positioned pointlessly and just completely goes to waste.
The Double U-Turn is a great concept because unlike a single U-Turn, it gives the team a chance to face an opponent, however it has only been played out how it should in a few circumstances.
It is one of the weakest seasons and the ratings are showing for it. I really think there needs to be a major change within the Race management and possibly a uplifting to casting.
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This isn't the amazing race anymore, this is the amazing friends tbh
The helping in TAR24's Leg 8 is completely disgusting and weird.
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This isn't the amazing race anymore, this is the amazing friends tbh
The helping in TAR24's Leg 8 is completely disgusting and weird.
Hopefully they fix that in the next season, Even the casuals are tired of it. Speaking of the casuals. They've almost completely turned on the season. From the sounds of it the Cowboys are the only team left that they all like.
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This isn't the amazing race anymore, this is the amazing friends tbh
The helping in TAR24's Leg 8 is completely disgusting and weird.
+ +++ ++ :groan:
I mean I might help someone out once or twice if I were ever on the race in order to get some help back, if I needed it. But just going around handing Christmas presents to everybody and giving out answers and all IS TOO MUCH. It's not even like you have an alliance with 1 particular team and don't want them to be out; these people are seriously helping everyone that's currently at the task :res:
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This isn't the amazing race anymore, this is the amazing friends tbh
The helping in TAR24's Leg 8 is completely disgusting and weird.
Hopefully they fix that in the next season, Even the casuals are tired of it. Speaking of the casuals. They've almost completely turned on the season. From the sounds of it the Cowboys are the only team left that they all like.
And (maybe) Brenchel <3
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This isn't the amazing race anymore, this is the amazing friends tbh
The helping in TAR24's Leg 8 is completely disgusting and weird.
Hopefully they fix that in the next season, Even the casuals are tired of it. Speaking of the casuals. They've almost completely turned on the season. From the sounds of it the Cowboys are the only team left that they all like.
And (maybe) Brenchel <3
Casuals are sort of coming around to Brenchel which is interesting. They are also starting to like the Afghanimals as well but that may change with what appears to happen next week.
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We're about two thirds of the way through the season and we have only been to four countries :crazy: :gaah:
My overall thoughts are this would be a good season if wasn't All Stars. This season could of been so much better but if anything positive comes out of this season is I hope that the producer's have learnt the following lessons
1. No more hybrid teams. They just haven't worked at all.
2. No more three-timers. They haven't really bought anything to the table at all and have proven to be wasted spots that could've been better filled.
3. Don't try to lie about the route. The average viewer is expecting four continents and nine countries because that is what they were told they would get. The average viewer doesn't like being lied to CBS
4. Don't try to build up sob stories when it is going to backfire. Case in point with Dave & Connor, the casuals have turned on them as of this episode for Dave's whining, If a team has a major change in personality and it is obvious don't lie to us in the edit. The casual fans have turned new leafs on Brenchel and the Afghanimals and it shows.
5. If you don't think you can get the cast you need for a All Stars season then push it back or rename. I know that casting can be a logical nightmare especially when casting a returning season but if you are unsure the cast is worthy of being called All Stars then change the subtitle. Unfinished Business was a good subtitle and theme for the season, Redemption would of worked well for this season.
1.) The first one worked.
2.) Yeah, they could've been filled better. :(
3.) The route now is a replacement one, IIRC. But they should've given the edited info instead. :(
5.) Agree 125%
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5. If you don't think you can get the cast you need for a All Stars season then push it back or rename. I know that casting can be a logical nightmare especially when casting a returning season but if you are unsure the cast is worthy of being called All Stars then change the subtitle. Unfinished Business was a good subtitle and theme for the season, Redemption would of worked well for this season.
The thing is, there were plenty other teams who actually were better All-Star worthy teams, yet they decided NOT to invite them.
Bertram and Co: :crazy:
Which makes it even more blaffling as to why they brought back Cowboys, Globes & Margie & Luke. We could have had the Chippendales, Trey & Lexi, Tim & Marie, Bill & Cathi, Amani & Marcus, Max & Katie, Pam & Winnie, Abbie & Ryan, James & Abba hell I would of been happy to see Joey "Fitness" and Danny return.
Tim & Marie and Max & Katie were invited, but the two teams declined it. :( I wish they were in this season.
If I'm not mistaken, Amani & Marcus were also invited.
As for the other teams, I don't know what happened, but all of those teams above deserves to return.
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This has definitely been one of the weakest seasons to date. To be fair, there seems to be an amount of last minute substitutions going on, so I'll take that into account. But that's so excuse, sorry!
I have to complain about the stationing of the Double U-Turn. First of all, I do not think it's fair for a team to be U-Turned and then before they complete the other side of the Detour they are allowed to U-Turn another team?! I think that's just silly to penalise another team before you have even served your own penalty. It just doesn't make sense. Not to mention when the U-Turn is positioned pointlessly and just completely goes to waste.
The Double U-Turn is a great concept because unlike a single U-Turn, it gives the team a chance to face an opponent, however it has only been played out how it should in a few circumstances.
It is one of the weakest seasons and the ratings are showing for it. I really think there needs to be a major change within the Race management and possibly a uplifting to casting.
That's why we have this thread. :) All we should hope for now... is that TAR will follow at least most of them.
About the U-turn, I think it shouldn't be a W-turn all the time. I still miss the yield. :( There should be a combination of the yields and U-turns, but each team has only one yield/U-turn power per race.
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This has definitely been one of the weakest seasons to date. To be fair, there seems to be an amount of last minute substitutions going on, so I'll take that into account. But that's so excuse, sorry!
I have to complain about the stationing of the Double U-Turn. First of all, I do not think it's fair for a team to be U-Turned and then before they complete the other side of the Detour they are allowed to U-Turn another team?! I think that's just silly to penalise another team before you have even served your own penalty. It just doesn't make sense. Not to mention when the U-Turn is positioned pointlessly and just completely goes to waste.
The Double U-Turn is a great concept because unlike a single U-Turn, it gives the team a chance to face an opponent, however it has only been played out how it should in a few circumstances.
I like how the U-Turn is played out and I do not think they should change it because then what might happen is by the time a team finishes both detours, they could be in last place and have no way to save themselves. I like Double U-Turns way more that the single ones because it means just because you are U-Turned, doesn't mean you are out. I like them, and they shouldn't be changed IMO. They can throw in some Yields and I would love to see them back, but not the single U-Turn.
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned this in this thread: I want to see every team's arrival time at all the pit stops.
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TAR really needs to do something about having actual competition on the RACE.
This is still is Race, right? You can help other teams and have alliances and such, but I don't think we've ever seen this level of idiocy (and yes, it is idiotic) ever on the Race. These people are waiting around for other teams for goodness sakes. WTF.
I don't know how to fix that though. Maybe it's part of improving casting?
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That's because teams only care about the first or last place. If they know that they aren't first and they aren't last, they actually don't care if they finish on 3rd, 5th or 7th position. Some teams would rather help another team with the hope, that they will return the favor later in the race. It's just the tactics.
Teams need to be motivated to finish higher!
For example: Sometime during the race there will be task where the position from the last leg would play a huge role. For example a roadblock where teams have to find the correct key to the lock. First team will have 100 locks to find from, 2nd team 110 and so on.
All teams would know there is this kind of challenge where the order matters. (Phil would tell them this during his speech at the starting line. He will say: "There is a new twist this season" and camera crane would shoot faces of all teams with shocked faces (slightly affected, of course).) But they won't know when that happens. So they're motivated to finish as high as possible every single leg.
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned this in this thread: I want to see every team's arrival time at all the pit stops.
I think the reason they don't do this is because last place teams are sometimes not needed to do some or any of the tasks the leg they fall far behind and that would kind of misguide the viewers as to how far behind the team was.
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5. If you don't think you can get the cast you need for a All Stars season then push it back or rename. I know that casting can be a logical nightmare especially when casting a returning season but if you are unsure the cast is worthy of being called All Stars then change the subtitle. Unfinished Business was a good subtitle and theme for the season, Redemption would of worked well for this season.
The thing is, there were plenty other teams who actually were better All-Star worthy teams, yet they decided NOT to invite them.
Bertram and Co: :crazy:
Which makes it even more blaffling as to why they brought back Cowboys, Globes & Margie & Luke. We could have had the Chippendales, Trey & Lexi, Tim & Marie, Bill & Cathi, Amani & Marcus, Max & Katie, Pam & Winnie, Abbie & Ryan, James & Abba hell I would of been happy to see Joey "Fitness" and Danny return.
Tim & Marie and Max & Katie were invited, but the two teams declined it. :( I wish they were in this season.
If I'm not mistaken, Amani & Marcus were also invited.
As for the other teams, I don't know what happened, but all of those teams above deserves to return.
Bill & Cathi couldn't return because TAR24 was filmed during winter season school days and Cathi said she worked as a college instructor in her TAR19 bio on CBS. Plus, they live on a ranch, Bill must take care of livestock and crops during the winter...
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I have an interesting idea called "The Split-up".
This would would be similar to having a detour made up of two roadblocks, where one team member does one, and the other member does the other. Both team members must finish before continuing, and the no help or encouragement or help can be given until both people are unseparated.
Also, mid-leg transportation and departure times help to give more value to the running positions of teams.
Finally, helping is actually a very strategic tactic, when done correctly. I don't see anyone complaining about the alliance in season 21. Besides, it is their race for their money, so don't complain about how they do it. If you don't like it, don't watch.
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That's because teams only care about the first or last place. If they know that they aren't first and they aren't last, they actually don't care if they finish on 3rd, 5th or 7th position. Some teams would rather help another team with the hope, that they will return the favor later in the race. It's just the tactics.
Teams need to be motivated to finish higher!
For example: Sometime during the race there will be task where the position from the last leg would play a huge role. For example a roadblock where teams have to find the correct key to the lock. First team will have 100 locks to find from, 2nd team 110 and so on.
All teams would know there is this kind of challenge where the order matters. (Phil would tell them this during his speech at the starting line. He will say: "There is a new twist this season" and camera crane would shoot faces of all teams with shocked faces (slightly affected, of course).) But they won't know when that happens. So they're motivated to finish as high as possible every single leg.
I like the twist. :) I just wouldn't want to have that on a linear leg.
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How about finally letting teams drive on the Final Leg?
Or finding a way to eliminate taxi luck from the equation?
Think the closest we've come to something like it, I don't know, maybe TAR3 in Seattle or TAR16 in San Francisco where teams had to run around the city for a little bit?
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How about finally letting teams drive on the Final Leg?
Or finding a way to eliminate taxi luck from the equation?
Think the closest we've come to something like it, I don't know, maybe TAR3 in Seattle or TAR16 in San Francisco where teams had to run around the city for a little bit?
Seattle was all taxi travel. Kerry Park (in northwest Seattle neighborhood), the International Fountain (downtown), Lincoln Park (Southwest Seattle), and Gas Works (across Lake Union) have no correlation in walkable places. Basically, teams only ran about in the parks, not really going from one place to another place.
TAR21's NYC Leg did pretty good with that running around Manhattan with the pizza delivery task.
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How about a change to the non-elimination penalty where teams have to pick out of a hat (or pick from envelopes Phil holds) with the choices being:
-Speed Bump
-Automatic U-Turn
-Marked for Elimination
Of course, it'd be a waste of money to have a Speed Bump all ready and not get used though (like the FF), but maybe a simple to set up Speed Bump. (Anyway, TAR loves simple Speed Bumps anyway hmph. lol)
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How about a change to the non-elimination penalty where teams have to pick out of a hat (or pick from envelopes Phil holds) with the choices being:
-Speed Bump
-Automatic U-Turn
-Marked for Elimination
Of course, it'd be a waste of money to have a Speed Bump all ready and not get used though (like the FF), but maybe a simple to set up Speed Bump. (Anyway, TAR loves simple Speed Bumps anyway hmph. lol)
Oh, it's good. I LIKE your idea.
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How about a change to the non-elimination penalty where teams have to pick out of a hat (or pick from envelopes Phil holds) with the choices being:
-Speed Bump
-Automatic U-Turn
-Marked for Elimination
Of course, it'd be a waste of money to have a Speed Bump all ready and not get used though (like the FF), but maybe a simple to set up Speed Bump. (Anyway, TAR loves simple Speed Bumps anyway hmph. lol)
I love that idea! :conf: There are probably more NEL penalties aside from those 3, but those 3 are the best 3 already.
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Yeah, there could be plenty more choices.
What would be the equivalent of a U-Turn/Detour for the Road Block where both team members must complete the RB, separately.
The Interchange? The Toll Plaza? lol, I dunno.
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Unblock road? Unblock? Because a roadblock requires one team member to perform, so unblocking would require both to do it? :lol:
But the U-turn counterpart for the roadblock is definitely one of my least favorite wishes.
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Unblock road? Unblock? Because a roadblock requires one team member to perform, so unblocking would require both to do it? :lol:
But the U-turn counterpart for the roadblock is definitely one of my least favorite wishes.
I agree. It would mess up the RB counts. (ex: In TAR18, each team member had to do 6 RBs) The RB-Turn would just make one team member do many more RBs than the other.
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I know this has been mentioned by possibly EVERY member on here, but I need to stress it again. :lol:
PLEASE CBS, we NEED more memorable, average Joe teams!
I'm mainly aiming this at the M/F teams, as most of the F/F & M/M teams have been great, with the exception of some of the professional athlete / minor celebrity teams.
I'm sick of all these generic, no personality, couples that have been cast just because they have that "air-brushed model" look to them, which makes them look great on TV. E.g. Jason & Amy (I know people like them but I really didn't), John & Jessica (S22 only), Meghan & Cheyne, Nick & Star, Abbie & Ryan, Trey & Lexi, Dave & Rachel (Possibly my most hated winners EVER), Ernie & Cindy, Jill & Thomas... Etc... :res:
We need to go back to the days when the cast was made up of great, everyday people. Compare the above teams to the likes of Steve & Debra, David & Mary, Steve & Linda, Lenny & Karyn, Anthony & Stephanie, and I'd even go as far as saying Kynt & Vyxsin from S12 because they so were different from anything we'd seen before on the race. :wohoo:
Yes, I know most of the teams I named weren't the best racers, but watching teams like these that have never travelled and just want to live the experience and see the world, is much more entertaining, and enjoyable for the viewer, (well for me anyway) then watching a bunch of teams that probably grew up with a privileged background, that have probably done some travelling and probably don't even need them money that much. :groan:
That's why I LOVED Brendan & Adam, because they're so different and wanted the money for good intentions, just like Mark & Bopper.
Ohhh well, I can only dream. :pity
Rant over. :lol:
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tbh the cowboys were unique....................... #justsaying #butnotafterthreetimes
and you need your token model/nice/cute looking couple every season because you need to appeal to everyone? i mean you like average joe teams but there are those who don't..
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I'm sick of all these generic, no personality, couples that have been cast just because they have that "air-brushed model" look to them, which makes them look great on TV. E.g. Jason & Amy (I know people like them but I really didn't), John & Jessica (S22 only), Meghan & Cheyne, Nick & Star, Abbie & Ryan, Trey & Lexi, Dave & Rachel (Possibly my most hated winners EVER), Ernie & Cindy, Jill & Thomas... Etc... :res:
Nick & Starr were siblings, not a couple, but yeah, I agree with all that you have said. :)
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tbh the cowboys were unique....................... #justsaying #butnotafterthreetimes
and you need your token model/nice/cute looking couple every season because you need to appeal to everyone? i mean you like average joe teams but there are those who don't..
Thing is I love the Cowboys, and will always love them, whether they race 3 times or 33 times! :lol:
I'm not saying get rid of the model/cute teams altogether, but to just decrease the amount of them per season, and increase number of the everyday people. Because if you think back to the original seasons, E.g. S1 - about S7 or S9, 8 or 9 of the teams, would be considered everyday, Average Joe people, where as in recent seasons we're lucky to find 1 or 2 Average Joe teams in a season. :groan:
It's kinda similar to how CBS have stopped casting older teams, which I think is an absolute disgrace! (:;)
I'm sick of all these generic, no personality, couples that have been cast just because they have that "air-brushed model" look to them, which makes them look great on TV. E.g. Jason & Amy (I know people like them but I really didn't), John & Jessica (S22 only), Meghan & Cheyne, Nick & Star, Abbie & Ryan, Trey & Lexi, Dave & Rachel (Possibly my most hated winners EVER), Ernie & Cindy, Jill & Thomas... Etc... :res:
Nick & Starr were siblings, not a couple, but yeah, I agree with all that you have said. :)
Sorry, that was my bad, I just meant M/F teams in general, when I said couples. :lol:
But, yea, at least I'm not on my own with that opinion. :hearts:
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our average joe teams?
tar 23 - tim/danny, brandon/adam, rowan/shane
tar 22 - chuck/wynona
tar 21 - gary/will, rob/kelley?
tar 20 - bopper/mark, dave/cherie, elliot/andrew (average enough like any kami and karli)?
we've had average joes every season.. and it depends on what you deem as average. i am assuming you are thinking no-name random people..
then just TAR 23 alone, we had 7/11 very "average people" teams? all except the NFL wives, the NFL team mates, Jason and Amy and Ice Crew girls... right?
and TAR 22 had 6-7 average teams, if you don't count the hockey brothers, country singers, youtube hosts, cancer team and even the roller derby moms, who i think are very average?? we had football moms in tar 3 as well and they are average too? so are nicky and kim considered average in your opinion?
not trying to be rude here but i'm just really interested to know what you mean by average (because imo there have been a fair share of really normal teams)... or do you solely mean the need to cast more older teams? :funny:
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our average joe teams?
tar 23 - tim/danny, brandon/adam, rowan/shane
tar 22 - chuck/wynona
tar 21 - gary/will, rob/kelley?
tar 20 - bopper/mark, dave/cherie, elliot/andrew (average enough like any kami and karli)?
we've had average joes every season.. and it depends on what you deem as average. i am assuming you are thinking no-name random people..
then just TAR 23 alone, we had 7/11 very "average people" teams? all except the NFL wives, the NFL team mates, Jason and Amy and Ice Crew girls... right?
and TAR 22 had 6-7 average teams, if you don't count the hockey brothers, country singers, youtube hosts, cancer team and even the roller derby moms, who i think are very average?? we had football moms in tar 3 as well and they are average too? so are nicky and kim considered average in your opinion?
not trying to be rude here but i'm just really interested to know what you mean by average (because imo there have been a fair share of really normal teams)... or do you solely mean the need to cast more older teams? :funny:
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Yea, I'd be talking about no-name people, that haven't been on TV before.
Again, I'm not saying get rid of the athlete teams either, but just cut the number of these teams as well.
If it was up to me, this would be my Dream Cast -
1 Cute/Model M/F Team
1 Older M/F Team
1 Older M/M or F/F Team
1 Athlete / Celeb M/M or F/F Team
Then the rest of the teams made up of Average Joe Teams.
Maybe it's because most the "Average Joe" teams that have been cast recently haven't been all that interesting, or memorable.
Sure we've had Bopper & Mark who's become one of the biggest fan favourite teams in the Post UB seasons, but in 2 or 3 years time who's really gonna remember Tim & Danny, Rowan & Shane, Brendan & Adam or even Matt & Daniel from S22.
I'd consider the Soccer Moms from S3 average, and Nicky & Kim not, but the only reason for that is because Nicky & Kim seemed to talk about being Baseball Wives for quite a lot of the season, and I think they kinda considered themselves more famous then they actually are? Although I do love them, which was extremely surprising because they weren't that likeable at the start of the race. :hrt:
But honestly, the thing I'd say is the key definition of an Average Joe team, is a team that would change their entire life for the better with $1 Million. I know that every team could change their lives with that amount of money, but I'm talking about teams like Bopper & Mark that could use the money to help their family and improve their standard of living.
Look at Brenchel, they DON'T need that money, I mean Rachel's already won Big Brother, and then you have the likes of Chynona, or Mark & Mallory (Bopper Included), who are total opposite of them and definitely would've benefited greatly from getting the money.
I'd even go as far as saying the Cowboys could do with the money because of Jet getting all his cattle stolen. Only for that I wouldn't be putting the Cowboys on this list.
They also do need to cast more older people. :lol:
I'm not sure if I've really explained what I mean by Average Joe that well, but you can let me know if you get me now. :)
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i just think there have been many average teams just that in recent seasons, the not-so-average ones got further as compared to in the earlier seasons. that's all. :kuss:
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i just think there have been many average teams just that in recent seasons, the not-so-average ones got further as compared to in the earlier seasons. that's all. :kuss:
100% agree with you there. I guess the boot orders to blame rather then the producers, but that's why I think an entire season without any of your Non-Average Joe teams would work, for at least 1 Season. :)
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Matt and who, tbh?
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Matt and who, tbh?
Gary & Matt (pink-Mohawk)! :luvya:
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i don't want to see dave and connor ever again on any season.
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i don't want to see dave and connor ever again on any season.
I don't want to see Cowboys again either. They've had 3 goes at it and failed each time.
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i don't want to see dave and connor ever again on any season.
I don't want to see Cowboys again either. They've had 3 goes at it and failed each time.
Tbf this time it wasn't their fault :lol:
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i don't want to see dave and connor ever again on any season.
I don't want to see Cowboys again either. They've had 3 goes at it and failed each time.
Tbf this time it wasn't their fault :lol:
They arrived last to the U-Turn :P If Leo & Jamal hadn't U-turned anyone then the Cowboys still would of been eliminated.
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i don't want to see dave and connor ever again on any season.
I don't want to see Cowboys again either. They've had 3 goes at it and failed each time.
I don't want to see any of these so-called "all-star" teams back again. Can't wait for new faces (hope none of them are associated with sporting events) in the springtime to flush out the bad aftertaste.
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i don't want to see dave and connor ever again on any season.
I don't want to see Cowboys again either. They've had 3 goes at it and failed each time.
I don't want to see any of these so-called "all-star" teams back again. Can't wait for new faces (hope none of them are associated with sporting events) in the springtime to flush out the bad aftertaste.
I wouldn't mind seeing NaNa/True Mopper/True Gallory/Brenchel/JJ/YouTube again :P :lol:
(Only After Maybe Three Seasons Of Newbies tbh)
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True Mopper is the only team from this season that deserves to come back.
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Replace the task design team. Tasks seem a bit too generic at times and sometimes there's no point at all of being at a certain city.
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Replace the task design team. Tasks seem a bit too generic at times and sometimes there's no point at all of being at a certain city.
And the route design team as well. Hell just pick out people from RFF to do the route and leg design :lol:
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CBS, there are a lot of people who are willing to do this for free. You want to cut down budget? Time to hire some of us here lol
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CBS, there are a lot of people who are willing to do this for free. You want to cut down budget? Time to hire some of us here lol
We could even take over casting :P
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I don't even mind if they wholesale copied some of the legs designed for DC Games on RFF. -.-
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I don't even mind if they wholesale copied some of the legs designed for DC Games on RFF. -.-
Or even some legs used in fantasy games as well.
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CBS, there are a lot of people who are willing to do this for free. You want to cut down budget? Time to hire some of us here lol
We could even take over casting :P
Yeah, seriously. Call me up BvM!
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Look at Brenchel, they DON'T need that money, I mean Rachel's already won Big Brother, and then you have the likes of Chynona, or Mark & Mallory (Bopper Included), who are total opposite of them and definitely would've benefited greatly from getting the money.
I'd even go as far as saying the Cowboys could do with the money because of Jet getting all his cattle stolen.
This! This makes a lot of sense with what you're saying. :hearts:
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Look at Brenchel, they DON'T need that money, I mean Rachel's already won Big Brother, and then you have the likes of Chynona, or Mark & Mallory (Bopper Included), who are total opposite of them and definitely would've benefited greatly from getting the money.
The. Amazing. Race. Is. Not. A. Charity. Kthxbye.
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Look at Brenchel, they DON'T need that money, I mean Rachel's already won Big Brother, and then you have the likes of Chynona, or Mark & Mallory (Bopper Included), who are total opposite of them and definitely would've benefited greatly from getting the money.
The. Amazing. Race. Is. Not. A. Charity. Kthxbye.
I never said it was. ???
I'm just trying to validate why I feel a season only consisting of "less privileged" teams would be a nice change.
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Look at Brenchel, they DON'T need that money, I mean Rachel's already won Big Brother, and then you have the likes of Chynona, or Mark & Mallory (Bopper Included), who are total opposite of them and definitely would've benefited greatly from getting the money.
The. Amazing. Race. Is. Not. A. Charity. Kthxbye.
I never said it was. ???
I'm just trying to validate why I feel a season only consisting of "less privileged" teams would be a nice change.
You implied it though? A team shouldn't be prevented from racing because they are well off if they are interesting (such as Brenchel) in exchange for a boring unprivileged team like the cowbores.
If you go back and read my entire post you'll see what I'm trying to get across.
I'll agree, the quote on it's own does sound like that's what I'm saying, but on it's own, it's out of context.
I'm fine with any team, High Class, Low Class or Middle Class, running the race, and it does come down to which teams can deliver on an entertainment level, but as I already said, 1 season with more "Lower Class" teams, would be a nice change. And I don't think it's much to ask for.
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Look at Brenchel, they DON'T need that money, I mean Rachel's already won Big Brother, and then you have the likes of Chynona, or Mark & Mallory (Bopper Included), who are total opposite of them and definitely would've benefited greatly from getting the money.
The. Amazing. Race. Is. Not. A. Charity. Kthxbye.
I never said it was. ???
I'm just trying to validate why I feel a season only consisting of "less privileged" teams would be a nice change.
You implied it though? A team shouldn't be prevented from racing because they are well off if they are interesting (such as Brenchel) in exchange for a boring unprivileged team like the cowbores.
If you go back and read my entire post you'll see what I'm trying to get across.
I'll agree, the quote on it's own does sound like that's what I'm saying, but on it's own, it's out of context.
I'm fine with any team, High Class, Low Class or Middle Class, running the race, and it does come down to which teams can deliver on an entertainment level, but as I already said, 1 season with more "Lower Class" teams, would be a nice change. And I don't think it's much to ask for.
I don't think casting should be class-based :lol:
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Look at Brenchel, they DON'T need that money, I mean Rachel's already won Big Brother, and then you have the likes of Chynona, or Mark & Mallory (Bopper Included), who are total opposite of them and definitely would've benefited greatly from getting the money.
The. Amazing. Race. Is. Not. A. Charity. Kthxbye.
I never said it was. ???
I'm just trying to validate why I feel a season only consisting of "less privileged" teams would be a nice change.
You implied it though? A team shouldn't be prevented from racing because they are well off if they are interesting (such as Brenchel) in exchange for a boring unprivileged team like the cowbores.
If you go back and read my entire post you'll see what I'm trying to get across.
I'll agree, the quote on it's own does sound like that's what I'm saying, but on it's own, it's out of context.
I'm fine with any team, High Class, Low Class or Middle Class, running the race, and it does come down to which teams can deliver on an entertainment level, but as I already said, 1 season with more "Lower Class" teams, would be a nice change. And I don't think it's much to ask for.
I don't think casting should be class-based :lol:
This ^^^
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Don't bring anyone back. Let us WISH they had another chance but don't make it happen. :ghug:
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If you want to put it that way, Mark and Bopper are the only team who have implied they needed money desperately in the past few seasons. And maybe Tim and Danny. Therefore, the rest of the teams are inappropriately selected.
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If you want to put it that way, Mark and Bopper are the only team who have implied they needed money desperately in the past few seasons. And maybe Tim and Danny. Therefore, the rest of the teams are inappropriately selected.
Tim & Danny needed money?
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Can't remember, Tim/Danny kept mentioning about her daughter's illness and therefore the money will help? That was why they were willing to play the game dirty and U-TURNed Leo and Jamal right?
The point is, like what you said, TAR is not a charity. :funny:
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Bring back the Fast Forward, and not just 1 per season, but put like 3, 4, or 5 per season so we can see more drama and strategy!
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Bring back the Fast Forward, and not just 1 per season, but put like 3, 4, or 5 per season so we can see more drama and strategy!
20 did it perfectly IMO.
- one right next to the RB to facilitate competition and to also not hinder the losers too much
- one immediately after an HoO bunching to facilitate competition
- one right after an NEL and after a Speed Bump but I *think* after an HoO bunch to give the spared team a chance to catch up
Perhaps one more early on (leg 2 maybe?) to give more teams a chance to win a leg and we're all set <3
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I agree. 20 had the best use of Fast Forwards in a long time.
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Agree about that. And I think on 3 in the season placed on each third of the race.
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The fast forwards themselves weren't all amazing but the placement and amount of them was good.
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Is there even a FF this season? -.- And they call this Allstars.
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Is there even a FF this season? -.- And they call this Allstars.
Nope. No FF. Unfinished Business didn't have one either. Which means that ChaChaCha's record of most FFs used remains alive!
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:funny: and no FF was used last season too I think.
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:funny: and no FF was used last season too I think.
It was there but wasn't usable due to bad weather unfortunately.
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Yes Samual, I know. I watched last season too. I've been asking rhetorical questions. :)
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Bring back the Fast Forward, and not just 1 per season, but put like 3, 4, or 5 per season so we can see more drama and strategy!
20 did it perfectly IMO.
- one right next to the RB to facilitate competition and to also not hinder the losers too much
- one immediately after an HoO bunching to facilitate competition
- one right after an NEL and after a Speed Bump but I *think* after an HoO bunch to give the spared team a chance to catch up
Perhaps one more early on (leg 2 maybe?) to give more teams a chance to win a leg and we're all set <3
Yes The Fast Forward belongs in every season!!!! And 3 in a season is perfect!!!!
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Not too sure where to post this as its more a suggestion than a change, but I'll put it here anyway.
I wouldn't mind seeing a Night Time start line. This has never been done before and could work out great.
Here's my thought.... Phil has all the teams at the Start Line, maybe there's a river or lake behind them with the reflection of the moon or a city scape? :lol:
Anyway, Phil says Go, and the teams run for their bags, with fireworks going off behind them, maybe at the far side of the river. (Again, something different that would look cool) :colors
To benefit a Night start line, there could be an ARI, NOT a Start Line Task, but more like the one in TAR Aus 2, then after that, they head off to the airport.
Now, I was also thinking, by having the teams fly out of the US at night, it would mean there'll be a chance they'll land at their destination at night, and this could cause a sort of domino affect, resulting in a higher number of night legs. ???
Although, CBS seem to LOVE having teams wait until sunrise, or for a building to open, before they receive their next clue, so this whole idea could just be pointless. :funny:
But I'd still Love to see this non-the-less. :)
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I wouldn't mind seeing a Night Time start line. This has never been done before and could work out great.
Here's my thought.... Phil has all the teams at the Start Line, maybe there's a river or lake behind them with the reflection of the moon or a city scape? :lol:
Anyway, Phil says Go, and the teams run for their bags, with fireworks going off behind them, maybe at the far side of the river. (Again, something different that would look cool) :colors
To benefit a Night start line, there could be an ARI, NOT a Start Line Task, but more like the one in TAR Aus 2, then after that, they head off to the airport.
:hrt: :hrt: :hrt: I would definitely love to see this! :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
About the ARI, is it like the one from TAR20?
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I wouldn't mind seeing a Night Time start line. This has never been done before and could work out great.
Here's my thought.... Phil has all the teams at the Start Line, maybe there's a river or lake behind them with the reflection of the moon or a city scape? :lol:
Anyway, Phil says Go, and the teams run for their bags, with fireworks going off behind them, maybe at the far side of the river. (Again, something different that would look cool) :colors
To benefit a Night start line, there could be an ARI, NOT a Start Line Task, but more like the one in TAR Aus 2, then after that, they head off to the airport.
:hrt: :hrt: :hrt: I would definitely love to see this! :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
About the ARI, is it like the one from TAR20?
No, I wasn't thinking of the TAR 20 because I see this as a "Start Line" task rather then a Route Info.
I'd consider an ARI as something that involves the teams having to leave the start line and go to an entirely different location, such as the one in TAR Aus 2 (which I loved) or in TAR Canada, when they went to the Butterfly Conservatory. Even though I don't see this that difficult, it was still nice to see teams go somewhere prior to the airport.
As for the task itself, I haven't come up with anything, but something that can only be done at night would be preferable. :lol:
So yea, that's what I'm thinking. :ya3:
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After seeing the awesome Running with the Bulls detour, it had me wishing for teams being able to square off against each other in something like that. Maybe that specific task would give too much advantage to male players, but I'd love to see some form of combat involving teams going head to head.
The other change that needs to happen is there needs to be a team from Hawaii on the race. Crossing my fingers as I am applying with my sister this year!
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After seeing the awesome Running with the Bulls detour, it had me wishing for teams being able to square off against each other in something like that. Maybe that specific task would give too much advantage to male players, but I'd love to see some form of combat involving teams going head to head.
NO! )-**
This actually happened in an "Intersection" of TARLA 2... totally missing the point of intercection... Teams where required to play a game of Volleyball against each other... the winning team moves on to the next route marker, the losing team stays there to wait for another team... that ended up giving us 1 last team waiting for NOBODY because there were no more teams left so that team got a penalty for 30 minutes... that needed to be completed before moving on to the next route marker...
THIS SHOULD NEVER BE DONE
The race it should never put teams against each other, but against themself, agains their own weakness...
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And one more thing about what Vitoko said about that Intersection in TARLA 2: if one team (Omar & Jorge) wouldn't have been penalized due to breaking the rules (4 hours), the last team would have been eliminated due to the 15 minutes delay for being the last loser. :(
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NO! )-**
This actually happened in an "Intersection" of TARLA 2... totally missing the point of intercection... Teams where required to play a game of Volleyball against each other... the winning team moves on to the next route marker, the losing team stays there to wait for another team... that ended up giving us 1 last team waiting for NOBODY because there were no more teams left so that team got a penalty for 30 minutes... that needed to be completed before moving on to the next route marker...
THIS SHOULD NEVER BE DONE
The race it should never put teams against each other, but against themself, agains their own weakness...
:funny: That does sound less than ideal, but even that volleyball idea could work if it were better thought out. Actually that could be ideal as a race opening task to determine which teams get put on an early flight and which get put on a secondary flight. Especially with the race beginning in the LA area almost exclusively, I could picture a start point of Manhattan beach with teams being randomly pitted against each other for the right to take the best flight.
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After seeing the awesome Running with the Bulls detour, it had me wishing for teams being able to square off against each other in something like that. Maybe that specific task would give too much advantage to male players, but I'd love to see some form of combat involving teams going head to head.
The other change that needs to happen is there needs to be a team from Hawaii on the race. Crossing my fingers as I am applying with my sister this year!
:hello2: and :bigwelcome to RFF, saacman!
I know they had teams from Hawaii before (Misa & Maiya if I'm not mistaken), but another one would be great! Good luck! :)
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Replace the task design team. Tasks seem a bit too generic at times and sometimes there's no point at all of being at a certain city.
Aha after seeing the last episode.
Going to Liverpool just for penalty kick?
Going to Wales just to recite poem?
Although the episode was great but it still kinda annoyed me. :res:
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Replace the task design team. Tasks seem a bit too generic at times and sometimes there's no point at all of being at a certain city.
Aha after seeing the last episode.
Going to Liverpool just for penalty kick?
Going to Wales just to recite poem?
Although the episode was great but it still kinda annoyed me. :res:
I have to agree to those somehow. ???
IMO, the last episode didn't excite me, which is why I was extremely lazy to post a review/commentary for the last episode. :(
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:hello2: and :bigwelcome to RFF, saacman!
I know they had teams from Hawaii before (Misa & Maiya if I'm not mistaken), but another one would be great! Good luck! :)
Thanks for the welcome!
I believe Misa and Maiya are from San Diego. As far as I know, the only racer ever from Hawaii was one of the jockey brothers, but they always struck me as more Hollywood and less Hawaii.
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http://robhasawebsite.com/amazing-race-2014-all-stars-do-you-believe-in-magic-season-24-episode-12-finale-dan-heaton/
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How about a Fast Forward task in the First Leg of the Race. Teams will have to complete an extra task, if they choose, and they can use that FF any time before Leg 9. But, if they don't use it on that first Leg, they would need to still complete the Leg. G
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Replace the task design team. Tasks seem a bit too generic at times and sometimes there's no point at all of being at a certain city.
Aha after seeing the last episode.
Going to Liverpool just for penalty kick?
Going to Wales just to recite poem?
Although the episode was great but it still kinda annoyed me. :res:
I have to agree to those somehow. ???
IMO, the last episode didn't excite me, which is why I was extremely lazy to post a review/commentary for the last episode. :(
I disagree very much.
Football (soccer) started in England, IIRC, and it was a sort of a task in there. Pretty OK to say it was a lame task, but a soccer task in Brazil or England makes rather much more sense than in any other place on Earth. About the Welsh porm, I disagree much strongly. The thing in there is to make a difficult task so that teams realize how hard Welsh is. I find it as a really mystic and different language, and I feel the task challenged it well.
I just think that tasks are not extremely related to being in the city/country where they are made, but this leg in Particular, featured related tasks in a really good way, tbh.
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Watching this week's episode, I think TAR should relax their trying to avoid seeing the cameramen and sound guys in shots. When Amy & Maya (I think) passed Brooke & Robbie in the taxi, we saw the cameraman clear as day in the front seat and that was great. It really added to the excitement.
But for example at the Detour, when the three teams were in a mad dash to get to the scaffolding first, I feel like we missed some great shots because they probably had a cameraman or two in them. That seems to be the case a lot of the time, otherwise usable shots that must be thrown out because of either of the crew members being seen.
I think after 25 seasons, TAR doesn't need to be as careful or active in trying to hide them anymore. Sometimes, especially in the more frantic scenes of the Race, it adds a lot to the excitement and avoids the need for abrupt quick cuts.
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^^ I think it adds to the reality of the show.
I think there was an instance this season (Leg 5) where the cameraman was not edited out too.
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If Bertram and Co. really want to find ways to change up the show, they should just look in this thread.
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BUMP.
Dear CBS and WRP,
1) NO gimmick team like the crossover reality show contestant, famous athletic, celebrities, mactor,...
2) MORE normal citizens teams like Meredith & Gretchen, David & Mary, Ron & Christina, Bill & Cathi, Mark & Bopper, Natalie & Nadiya in TAR21, Chuck & Wyona, Shelly & Nici, Amy & Maya, Hayley & Blair, CJ & Lebya, Jeff & Lyda,...
3) Please refer to any TAR fantasy games and wishlist in RFF and SurvivorSucks if you didn't have any idea to plan and design the race. We'll be much appreciate if you pay attention to any TAR fantasy games even if you copies 100% of the location and task.
3) Please have the race route was more diverse location. Please do not repeat the horrible race route like TAR21 and TAR24, and please do not always going to the same country and cities (Germany, Switzerland, Austria, West Europe, Tokyo & Osaka, metropolitan China, Indonesian Java Island, Chile, Argentina)
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I agree with the cameraman thing. We know they're there. Unless they have to be paid more if they appear on screen, there's no reason to hide them.
I really wish they would put a standings/progress board up during the episodes, either throughout the episode, or if that is too much clutter, whenever the order changes. It can either display what order teams are in or what task they're doing. Something more than just a simple "currently in 4th" at the bottom for 5 seconds.
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I really wish they would put a standings/progress board up during the episodes, either throughout the episode, or if that is too much clutter, whenever the order changes. It can either display what order teams are in or what task they're doing. Something more than just a simple "currently in 4th" at the bottom for 5 seconds.
It could be really useful during Detours, in the event that teams completing different sides finish relatively close to each other.
I think my biggest pet peeve (that should probably be fixed ASAP, if it were me) is that those in charge of casting doesn't make the cast diverse enough. I say that because they've overused certain professions. Remember that parade of beauty queens? One season was fine. Having them in multiple seasons, especially in a row, was overkill. Stop picking people who have had their fifteen minutes of fame elsewhere, because each season... It seems like there's one team that has already received that attention.