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General => Reality Fan Wiki => Topic started by: Dom on January 07, 2013, 12:47:37 PM

Title: Welcome!
Post by: Dom on January 07, 2013, 12:47:37 PM
Hi everyone!

With a fresh new year upon us, it's time to unveil a brand new and very exciting venture from Reality Fan Forum.

It's called Reality Fan Wiki, and its aim is to become the world's number one resource for all things reality TV. Whether its Amazing Race, Survivor, Big Brother or anything else reality, we want RFW to become the ultimate database for fans and contestants alike. Rob & I have been working hard over the last few months to get everything in place, and I think we finally have the perfect platform to make it happen.

As with any wiki, this isn't going to happen overnight. Just by being a member of Reality Fan Forum, you have already helped make RFF the number one discussion board for reality TV on the net. Now, we need YOUR help again to put RFW on the map.

Sure, Wikipedia is a good place to start for casual fans of reality shows, but we at RFF are anything but casual fans! For more in-depth results, records and contestant information, you often need to turn to one of the fairly messy wiki farm sites, riddled with adverts and unreliable information. Reality Fan Wiki is not hosted on a wiki farm; we have full control on what we do with it and the potential is unlimited.

An ultimate wiki with every scrap of information imaginable is our dream. Becoming known as not just the best reality forum in the world, but the best source of reliable information is what we're aiming for. Now it's up to our great members, you guys, to make it happen!

So get stuck in!

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www.realityfanwiki.com (http://www.realityfanwiki.com)
Title: Re: Reality Fan Wiki
Post by: Dom on January 07, 2013, 12:51:03 PM
Rob is currently working really hard to get a subforum for RFW set up, where you'll be able to learn more, post questions about the wiki and chat about particular articles. If you have any questions in the meantime, feel free to post here or PM!
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: TexasLady on January 07, 2013, 06:19:06 PM
Thanks to all who suggested this and to Rob and Dom for making it happen!

 :wohoo:
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Air on January 07, 2013, 08:07:17 PM
Just wondering: Can we move our endless Fantasy Game wikia pages over there?
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: kiki on January 07, 2013, 11:18:27 PM
A good start for the wiki would be to contact maf and use all his great recaps of the recent TAR seasons. They are very detailed and offer a lot more info than wikipedia.
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Cocoa on January 07, 2013, 11:23:29 PM
Just wondering: Can we move our endless Fantasy Game wikia pages over there?

i think some might confuse it with the real TAR, so I think it will be confusing to add them there
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: theamazingracer21 on January 07, 2013, 11:24:21 PM
I'l help out whenever I can.
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Cocoa on January 07, 2013, 11:44:41 PM
A good start for the wiki would be to contact maf and use all his great recaps of the recent TAR seasons. They are very detailed and offer a lot more info than wikipedia.


Also, there is a lot of info (though not sure if reliable) here:

http://amazingrace.wikia.com
http://survivor.wikia.com
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Air on January 08, 2013, 12:00:54 AM
Just wondering: Can we move our endless Fantasy Game wikia pages over there?

i think some might confuse it with the real TAR, so I think it will be confusing to add them there

I was thinking to add (Fantasy Game) at the end, ie Ovalorange's The Amazing Race Australia (Fantasy Game), because that would keep it relatively uncluttered. And it's still under the realms of RFF. But let's see what the mods think.
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 08, 2013, 04:01:21 AM
Congratulations Dom!! This is a wonderful addition to RFF and it will be exciting to see it grow!! I know you and our awesome team of contributors can make this happen! And you are perfect choice to make this happen!

Maf's recaps (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,27998.0.html) would be a great addition!
 
Just wondering: Can we move our endless Fantasy Game wikia pages over there?

My own thought would be that it would be best to keep the fantasy game board info separate for now. I would hope that this will become the "go to" place for reality TV answers and mixing reality with fantasy could prove confusing to some.  But I am sure Dom amd Rob will have the answer!
 
Looking forward to seeing this grow!  :hearts:

 
 





 
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: theamazingracer21 on January 08, 2013, 04:41:19 AM
Quick question.

What do we do for people/teams who were on multiple shows (Rob and Amber, Brendan and Rache, ect)
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Dom on January 08, 2013, 05:13:59 AM
Thanks Peach! With regards to the fantasy games, one solution would be to introduce a prefix of 'RFF:'. Anything that refers to activity on RFF could be preceded with RFF: like 'RFF:Amazing Race Fantasy Game'. That way, these pages could be kept separate. What do you guys think?

Quick question.

What do we do for people/teams who were on multiple shows (Rob and Amber, Brendan and Rache, ect)

Good question! What do you reckon would be a good solution? I don't see any reason we couldn't have pages for individuals as well as teams (so one for 'Rob Mariano' etc), even those that were only part of a team in the Amazing Race. The more pages the merrier! :)
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: ovalorange on January 08, 2013, 05:47:34 AM
I made the season 13 general page and it was so much easier than I thought thanks to Dom's templates. The only thing I couldn't do is add in the external link to the website... apparently I don't know what a cat is  :lol3:


Thanks Dom and Rob for doing this, I've always wanted a place with such indepth knowledge of the shows. Let me know if I can help with anything in particular you need!  :hearts:

Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: theamazingracer21 on January 08, 2013, 06:12:53 AM
Thanks Peach! With regards to the fantasy games, one solution would be to introduce a prefix of 'RFF:'. Anything that refers to activity on RFF could be preceded with RFF: like 'RFF:Amazing Race Fantasy Game'. That way, these pages could be kept separate. What do you guys think?

Quick question.

What do we do for people/teams who were on multiple shows (Rob and Amber, Brendan and Rache, ect)

Good question! What do you reckon would be a good solution? I don't see any reason we couldn't have pages for individuals as well as teams (so one for 'Rob Mariano' etc), even those that were only part of a team in the Amazing Race. The more pages the merrier! :)
I am thinking that we don't have fantasy races ect

Thanks for answering my question
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Cocoa on January 08, 2013, 06:31:57 AM
Question: why are screencaps of the episodes not allowed?
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Air on January 08, 2013, 07:20:28 AM
Wow. There's a lot of work to do. *rubs hands together*

And I really like the new format. It gives a lot more information than Wikipedia does.  :luvya:
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Dom on January 08, 2013, 07:31:12 AM
Wow. There's a lot of work to do. *rubs hands together*

And I really like the new format. It gives a lot more information than Wikipedia does.  :luvya:

Glad you're enjoying it Airlinesguy! If you have any suggestions on how it could be even better, let us know!

Question: why are screencaps of the episodes not allowed?

Well, I wasn't sure what to do on that front, so if anyone has any experience in this field, let us know! I figured that the actual TV show itself is copyrighted material. Press released images are by definition, fine to distribute and use, but I'd imagine using copyrighted material in any form might get us into trouble..
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Cocoa on January 08, 2013, 07:36:15 AM
I hope we can find a way to use those images (because they do add more information and material, example: pitstop greeters), but yeah I believe they are protected under copyright :(

And oh, added the TAR 18 Leg 01 page! I'm sure there might be mistakes, so be sure to correct it if you see one! :)
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Air on January 08, 2013, 08:39:17 AM
Finished TAR1 (haven't had time to beautify it, that's after some good sleep), and I wonder: What is with all the cats?
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Dom on January 08, 2013, 09:18:42 AM
Finished TAR1 (haven't had time to beautify it, that's after some good sleep), and I wonder: What is with all the cats?

Hmm.. That should only be for the one time when you sign up. Do you see the cats at other times as well?
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Dom on January 08, 2013, 01:41:17 PM
How about now?
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Dom on January 08, 2013, 01:55:43 PM
I hope we can find a way to use those images (because they do add more information and material, example: pitstop greeters), but yeah I believe they are protected under copyright :(

And oh, added the TAR 18 Leg 01 page! I'm sure there might be mistakes, so be sure to correct it if you see one! :)

I definitely agree. And GREAT job on the S18 Leg 1 page, it looks perfect already!
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: ZouLy on January 09, 2013, 01:17:41 AM

 :hello2:  Hi all..! just join forces on this great invention  :hrt:

I am curiously editing a page (TAR 21 Main Page) which still has some of TAR 13 template in it... but I'm working on it now as best as I could  :<3

Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Dom on January 09, 2013, 01:26:25 PM
A HUUUUUGE thank you to everyone who has helped out so far! It's really starting to take shape and you're all proving that you're very good at this wiki stuff!
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: ugot2bekidinmeny on January 09, 2013, 04:30:32 PM
Good job Dom and Rob! I'll need time to get to it and see what I can help with. :tup:
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: theamazingracer21 on January 09, 2013, 11:10:52 PM
I was thinking on each page we could have a trivia fact about the contents of the page.

Ie TAR 21 had the most roadblocks with 14 (1st/last legs had 2 each + 1 every other leg)
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Air on January 09, 2013, 11:29:50 PM
I was thinking on each page we could have a trivia fact about the contents of the page.

Ie TAR 21 had the most roadblocks with 14 (1st/last legs had 2 each + 1 every other leg)

Maybe we could have a seperate trivia page?

I think the trivia might clutter up the main season pages if there's too much of it.
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: theamazingracer21 on January 09, 2013, 11:44:57 PM
I was thinking on each page we could have a trivia fact about the contents of the page.

Ie TAR 21 had the most roadblocks with 14 (1st/last legs had 2 each + 1 every other leg)

Maybe we could have a seperate trivia page?

I think the trivia might clutter up the main season pages if there's too much of it.

I was thinking at the bottom of the related page but a separate trivia page could also work.
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: ovalorange on January 10, 2013, 01:24:44 AM
I was thinking on each page we could have a trivia fact about the contents of the page.

Ie TAR 21 had the most roadblocks with 14 (1st/last legs had 2 each + 1 every other leg)

Maybe we could have a seperate trivia page?

I think the trivia might clutter up the main season pages if there's too much of it.

I was thinking at the bottom of the related page but a separate trivia page could also work.

Agreed, a separate page would be better. A whole page devoted to trivia <3
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Declive on January 10, 2013, 04:31:00 PM
I'm working on James and Abba's page , now!  :wohoo:
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Declive on January 11, 2013, 12:29:37 AM
Finished James & Abba's page! Can someone take a look to see if i had mess up or anything like that? Thanks!  :hearts:
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Hooky on January 11, 2013, 12:23:52 PM
Wow, haven't looked at the actual wiki yet, but I'm liking the sound of this idea. :yess:

I will try to do some contributing when time allows. :tup:
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Declive on January 11, 2013, 02:27:42 PM
Thank you Peach for reviewing my page! I think we're all right now , heee
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Jobby on January 12, 2013, 10:39:24 AM
I created an account but I don't think I'll be using it much. :oh
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Jobby on January 12, 2013, 10:47:44 AM
Finished James & Abba's page! Can someone take a look to see if i had mess up or anything like that? Thanks!  :hearts:

I added this part in. :)

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Leg 12
Per post race interviews, Abba took six days to obtain a visa to exit Russia, where he lost his passport. Hence, they were still able to make it to the finishing line, unlike Toni & Dallas who were unable to do so in The Amazing Race 13.
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Jobby on January 12, 2013, 10:48:41 AM
Actually I hate creating pages up from scratch, so if anyone wants me to add/edit your wiki page with more info with my "abundant" TAR knowledge, just drop me a PM with the link and i'll be glad to do it! ;)
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Declive on January 12, 2013, 11:21:53 AM
I did not think of that. Good job , Joab!! Thank you!!  :hrt: :hrt: :hrt:
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: MrDeerShank on January 12, 2013, 06:36:44 PM
Updated the Indonesia page with summaries of Leg 3 and 4 for Season 21 and created the Malawi page, still needs some work on it (which is beyond my scope for Wiki editing at the moment) :lol:
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Dom on January 13, 2013, 04:31:46 AM
Updated the Indonesia page with summaries of Leg 3 and 4 for Season 21 and created the Malawi page, still needs some work on it (which is beyond my scope for Wiki editing at the moment) :lol:

Thanks for your hard work, your edits look really great!
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Declive on January 13, 2013, 12:22:50 PM
Made Rob & Kelley and Amy & Daniel , can somebody take a look at it?
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: ZouLy on January 13, 2013, 03:56:17 PM

instead of putting them all on this thread, how if Dom create a new thread titled "RFW Logs and Updates" where we can regularly report back to this headquarter about what we're doing and updating, maybe make a template form such as date, page(s) updated, update explanation, etc..etc..

just my 50 cents.. :js:


Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: ZouLy on January 13, 2013, 04:01:13 PM
I hope we can find a way to use those images (because they do add more information and material, example: pitstop greeters), but yeah I believe they are protected under copyright :(


about this matter, so we cannot upload an image/screenshot from any scenes in the episode?

Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: MrDeerShank on January 13, 2013, 04:17:28 PM
Can I ask, for each page for a country, do we include leg details from international versions? I'm currently doing the page for Turkey and was wondering whether to include the legs from the Australian version?
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: ZouLy on January 13, 2013, 05:54:31 PM

.... I am curiously editing a page (TAR 21 Main Page)....



Did some update on TAR 21 Leg 1 page, but the result board still with TAR 19 template, need help to change the placement and description, thanks so much  :<3

Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Alenaveda on January 13, 2013, 06:04:26 PM
Starting the page for Argentina.
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Hooky on January 13, 2013, 10:42:22 PM
Instead of reporting here try to use the talk pages of the respective article and users. Its much easier.

Where would be a good place to report images uploaded? I uploaded cast photos for Seasons 10-18 and am not sure where else I could report it besides here.
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Dom on January 14, 2013, 01:30:25 AM
There is a very useful page here: http://realityfanwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges which I like to use to check out what everyone's working on!

about this matter, so we cannot upload an image/screenshot from any scenes in the episode?

Probably safest not to for now..

Can I ask, for each page for a country, do we include leg details from international versions? I'm currently doing the page for Turkey and was wondering whether to include the legs from the Australian version?

Yeah you can definitely include international versions! Check out http://realityfanwiki.com/index.php?title=Indonesia to see how it's been done before.
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: apskip on January 16, 2013, 06:55:28 AM
Instead of reporting here try to use the talk pages of the respective article and users. Its much easier.

Where would be a good place to report images uploaded? I uploaded cast photos for Seasons 10-18 and am not sure where else I could report it besides here.

Is it legal to upload copyrighted material?
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Dom on January 16, 2013, 01:05:41 PM
Instead of reporting here try to use the talk pages of the respective article and users. Its much easier.

Where would be a good place to report images uploaded? I uploaded cast photos for Seasons 10-18 and am not sure where else I could report it besides here.

Is it legal to upload copyrighted material?

I doubt it very much. However, cast photos are actually released by CBS to the press, so assuming they're not being used for commercial gain, they can be used freely.

Screencaps are a direct derivative of the copyrighted TV show, so that will almost certainly not be allowed.

Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 16, 2013, 03:11:09 PM
Remember that CBS also releases about 10-15 caps themselves of each episode as a press release and then more post-episode...all of thse should be fine to use if properly credited.
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Dom on January 16, 2013, 03:45:11 PM
Remember that CBS also releases about 10-15 caps themselves of each episode as a press release and then more post-episode...all of thse should be fine to use if properly credited.

Very good point Peach, thanks! It'll be tough to track those down for the older seasons though..
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Jobby on January 19, 2013, 12:11:22 PM
I know somewhere they still have the CBS websites for the old seasons of TAR.... it's somewhere... gotta find it!
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Jobby on January 19, 2013, 11:50:52 PM
CBS Websites have http://www.cbs.com/shows/amazing_race/season/13/episodes/ Season 13 onwards....

Let's see if I can find the older sites.
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Jobby on January 20, 2013, 12:01:45 AM
Try to work around:

TAR 1: http://web.archive.org/web/20011004215846/http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/index.shtml

TAR 2: http://web.archive.org/web/20030207141852/http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race2/index.shtml

TAR 3: http://web.archive.org/web/20060112144253/http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race3/

TAR 4: http://web.archive.org/web/20040920012309/http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race4/

TAR 5: http://web.archive.org/web/20050822060101/http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race5/

TAR 6: http://web.archive.org/web/20050204095304/http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race6/

TAR 7: http://web.archive.org/web/20050406041327/http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race7/

Until season 7 for now... can't find 8 to 12. :gaah:
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Jobby on January 20, 2013, 12:02:53 AM
<3

http://web.archive.org/web/20050421233408/http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race7/show/ep08/route/leader/

THIS USED TO BE MY FAVOURITE PLACE TO VISIT EVERY WEEK!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 20, 2013, 06:09:15 AM
I think they changed the old links, I have this somewhere...will look later!
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Snooky on January 20, 2013, 10:06:21 PM
This is simply amazing. I hope I can help in the future. Thank you so much, Dom and Rob!
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Prophet on January 24, 2013, 01:01:21 PM
This looks like a great idea. Good work everyone!
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Dom on January 24, 2013, 01:27:39 PM
This looks like a great idea. Good work everyone!

Thanks for the support guys! It'll take a lot of time to fill in all the past events, but here's hoping everyone's ready to get stuck in with the upcoming Survivor and Amazing Race seasons!!
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Magnus on February 18, 2013, 06:13:27 PM
Instead of reporting here try to use the talk pages of the respective article and users. Its much easier.

Where would be a good place to report images uploaded? I uploaded cast photos for Seasons 10-18 and am not sure where else I could report it besides here.

Is it legal to upload copyrighted material?

A lot of things uploaded on the internet are in copyright violation but it is nearly impossible to enforce. Some sites (especially those owned by Google) encourage civil disobedience in this area by giving a portion of the ad revenue from the page to the copyright holder. In effect this bribes them not to press charges so the law is circumvented.
I think other sites like Wikipedia don't allow copyrighted material but that is probably because they are not funded by ad revenue.
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Air on April 02, 2013, 05:58:39 AM
I've touched up the TAR5 page, and created TAR6 and 7, and also majorly reworked 8. Tell me what you think. :)
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: G.B. on April 24, 2013, 05:00:57 PM
Ooh, I didn't know you had a wiki. Coooool

*cracks knuckles*

Let's see how I can help out here...

---

There, what do you think about those TAR1 tables?
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Air on May 23, 2013, 09:02:04 AM
Good job to all that have edited <3
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: HavaDrPepper on February 27, 2016, 12:00:19 PM
As I was watching old seasons, I was using the wiki to follow along.  I can no longer get into it.  This error message comes up and has for over 2 weeks:

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The web service to this account has been limited temporarily!
There is a server resource overage report open for this account in the User area. To remove the limits, please log into your User area and consider the options available to resolve the case.

I hope that this gets resolved because the regular wikipedia is not as good as this one was! I loved seeing how the placements changed during the legs.

Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: ovalorange on March 27, 2016, 09:06:15 AM
I can't access this site at all right now...
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: georgiapeach on March 27, 2016, 02:01:25 PM
We know, we are working on it. We may be running out of server space towards the end of the month.

Sorry guys, we will see what we can do!
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: Maanca on January 07, 2022, 07:06:52 PM
The TAR33 page and the first eliminated team's page are messed up. All the images are simply an error message of
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Error creating thumbnail: Unable to run external programs, proc_open() is disabled. Error code: 1
Title: Re: Welcome!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 08, 2022, 12:49:20 PM
We know thanks. Waiting to se if WP can fix it.