DO IT :hoot: DO IT :hoot:
Back in Time is a really good task, but too bad it got paired up with such an overused task.. (make a certain amount of money by selling ____)
Am I the only one who saw that greeter checking out the the boys? :lol:
Am I the only one who saw that greeter checking out the the boys? :lol:omg really? :lol:
Ryan does the roadblock and has fallen in the water twice. Abbie talks about how much this day has sucked. Abbie & Ryan are the last team to arrive. And they have been eliminated from the race. Ryan doesn't know what to say. He says the Chips cost them $2 million. They're both pretty upset. :(
Pit stop:
1st - Natalie & Nadiya
2nd - Jaymes & James
3rd - Trey & Lexi
4th - Josh & Brent
5th - Ryan & Abbie (ELIMINATED)
Omg I played that Bull task on my Wii!
I just think the top three teams were so cleaver with their elimination plan. I wonder if we will see this again in the future.I'm kind of surprised it took this long for teams to come up with this, I'm guessing it would have happened this way last season if Dave & Rachel had U-Turned Brenchel, then Art & JJ would have probably nullified the other one. Or maybe if Kent & Vyxsin had been convinced to U-Turn the Globetrotters instead of Jaime & Cara :duno:
I just think the top three teams were so cleaver with their elimination plan. I wonder if we will see this again in the future.I'm kind of surprised it took this long for teams to come up with this, I'm guessing it would have happened this way last season if Dave & Rachel had U-Turned Brenchel, then Art & JJ would have probably nullified the other one. Or maybe if Kent & Vyxsin had been convinced to U-Turn the Globetrotters instead of Jaime & Cara :duno:
I guess this is the first time teams actually agree on a strategy.
turned into the selfish team;
"Oh, we like Abbie & Ryan, our friends, but we have to think about our own goal, we wouldn't use the U-Turn otherwise"turned into the selfish team;
How are the Chippendales a selfish team?!!! :groan:
Pretty disappointing. It's meant to be a race and yet a weak team survives because the the twins and Trey/Lexi basically put pressure on the Chippendales to u-turn Abbie/Ryan. Abbie and Ryan left the detour first and get no reward whatsoever for it. Them not being allowed on the earlier plane was rather convenient for the producers as well, though the colluding over the u-turn obviously meant there was no tension towards the end anyway. The whole point of a double u-turn is to have two teams competing against each other, not for a team to make it a boring single u-turn with the predictable outcome. The painting detour looked a lot more interesting though we didn't see much of it. Locations were pretty good though. The 2 million twist I always thought was boring anyway, so I never cared about that. The twins were annoying again at times, and Lexi reverted to her loud yays at the detour. Quite a disappointing final group of teams.
I agree with those who have said that was a really clever and unique way to use a double U-Turn to get rid of a strong team. I doubt there will be anymore double-Uturns in the coming season now that this strategy has emerged. They will have to come up with something else.
Also, I really like the character development on this Season. At first it felt like Abbie & Ryan were the antagonists for stealing Amy & Daniel's shot at the 2Mill, and that Trexie and the Twinnies would be the good guys. Suddenly, the Twinnies are the hardcore amoral team that will do anything to win; Trexie were the formerly lawful good turned lawful evil, even being glad for getting rid of Abbie & Ryan; James & Jaymes were first the "alpha male" team, turned into the super friendly team, turned into the selfish team; finally, Abbie & Ryan turned from alpha couple to the team with extremely bad luck.Interesting observation. :tup: True, it's not been stale and teams have done some surprising things.
Very dynamic characterization indeed.
To me, it seemed production was rooting against A&R. From Phil's angry-sounding statement to the Beekmans "Would you rather I eliminate you" (sounded like he was personally mad that someone could like A&R) to playing the happy-sounding organ-grinder music immediately after their tearful fair well. Sounded like they were celebrating not having to hand over a $2M check. I even wonder if the U-turn strategy didn't come from production.
To me, it seemed production was rooting against A&R. From Phil's angry-sounding statement to the Beekmans "Would you rather I eliminate you" (sounded like he was personally mad that someone could like A&R) to playing the happy-sounding organ-grinder music immediately after their tearful fair well. Sounded like they were celebrating not having to hand over a $2M check. I even wonder if the U-turn strategy didn't come from production.
It's possible production preferred to see A&R go ito the $2M but I doubt they would go so far as to sabotage game elements or put teams up to this. There have been rumours about the twins and Texans taking the rocker's money being incited to do so from production though, and if that is the case, this is more than a little disappointing. :(
As for Phil's words to the Beekmans, personally I always felt that he has a soft spot for people who are passionate about the race and eager to win. Not eager at all costs but definitely eager. Makes for better tv too obviously. :lol:
So maybe this stemmed more from them all clinging together for two legs now and basically not seeming too eager or happy to still be in it. I think that's why he said it, not so much to do with A&R or whether they liked them or not. :)
this is what makes The Sri Lanka girl's plan to seal Abby&Ryan's fate so risky.
As for Phil's words to the Beekmans, personally I always felt that he has a soft spot for people who are passionate about the race and eager to win. Not eager at all costs but definitely eager. Makes for better tv too obviously. :lol:
So maybe this stemmed more from them all clinging together for two legs now and basically not seeming too eager or happy to still be in it. I think that's why he said it, not so much to do with A&R or whether they liked them or not. :)
Interesting observation. :tup: True, it's not been stale and teams have done some surprising things.
Some of which I still think shouldn't be seen on the race.. (i.e. taking another team's money..)
I do agree that the Chippies let themselves be manipulated but they knew why they were doing it in the end.
As for it being boring - I think the fact that the Beekmans just more or less seem to have forgotten this IS a race and were just doing it together with Abby and Ryan (and vice versa) was more boring in that sense. :duno: It was nice I'm sure and very friendly but not exactly in the spirit of the race.
this is what makes The Sri Lanka girl's plan to seal Abby&Ryan's fate so risky. Abby and Ryan were actually scheduled to arrive in Amsterdam ahead of Trey&Lexi. Had things gone right for Abby&Ryan, they would arrive at the U-Turn 3rd and mostly U-Turning The Sri Lanka girls (which would cost no effect), or probably Trey&Lexi if they somehow managed to think that way. If Trey and Lexi got to the U-Turn before Abby&Ryan and decided to leave alone the 2nd u-turn, Abby& Ryan could just U-Turn Josh-Brent since they already know those two were so far behind.
So the fact that Tweenies,Trexies,and Chips maanaged to pull that off perfectly is what makes this worth-watching.
But the farmers aren't that passionate about it, Abbie and Ryan were far more into the race as well as just being better at it. And Phil trying to make out that the Chippendales were playing the game when actually they just felt coerced into doing it was disingenuous as well.That's what I meant, the Beekmans didn't show that enthousiasm, which is why I think Phil said this.
As for collusion don't think it has just been between the farmers and Abbie/Ryan (weird though that was, and Abbie/Ryan didn't initiate that). Don't forget the Chippendales trying to hail a taxi for another team (Trey and Lexi I think) at the end of another leg. Riding on another teams coat-tails is pretty annoying but this race has been full of it, but it should be a race between them.Oh I wasn't claiming the others weren't guilty of that.. :lol:
I agree with those who have said that was a really clever and unique way to use a double U-Turn to get rid of a strong team. I doubt there will be anymore double-Uturns in the coming season now that this strategy has emerged. They will have to come up with something else.
Basically they're just still in it because two other teams who seemed more competent racers (the rockers and Abby & Ryan) got eliminated because of bad luck and/or strategy of the other teams. They obviously don't feel like they should be in the race anymore either, judging by how they've been talking about it. :( I like them, don't get me wrong, I just think other teams deserved to be here more than they do at this point.
bcp_19.........That is the flights they took, but there appeared to be several earlier flights they could have been on.
June 7th..... leave Istanbul
June 8th......arrive Moscow.....finish Leg 7
June 9th......Leg 8
June 10th......long pit stop and teams released starting in evening
June 11th...... all teams fly out of Moscow in the morning to Amsterdam
They all flew out of SVO.......as they always have when leaving Moscow (except TAR13). I personally think they are told to fly out of SVO. I posted the flights in the TAR 21 Transportation thread.
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,27208.175.html
bcp_19.........That is the flights they took, but there appeared to be several earlier flights they could have been on.
June 7th..... leave Istanbul
June 8th......arrive Moscow.....finish Leg 7
June 9th......Leg 8
June 10th......long pit stop and teams released starting in evening
June 11th...... all teams fly out of Moscow in the morning to Amsterdam
They all flew out of SVO.......as they always have when leaving Moscow (except TAR13). I personally think they are told to fly out of SVO. I posted the flights in the TAR 21 Transportation thread.
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,27208.175.html
Abbie and Ryan could theoretically have gotten on the Aeroflot nonstop to Amsterdam but they are bright enough that they should not have missed that.
I'm a little confused by the flights out of Moscow, do airlines run different schedules in the summer? In looking at the site I use in the fantasy games, I found 2 direct flights that leaves at 2155 and gets in at 2240 (KLM and Aeroflot) in Amsterdam at Sheremetyevo. The first 2 teams should have had plenty of time to make these flighst. All of these flights would have arrived ahead of the ones they were on as well:
Domodedovo
2310 - 0830 Ukraine Intl Airlines
2310 - 1135 Ukraine Intl Airlines
Sheremetyevo
2155 - 2240 KLM
2155 - 2240 Aeroflot
0645 - 0720 KLM
0645 - 0720 Aeroflot
2345 - 0840 Czech Airlines
2225 - 0855 Air France
2205 - 0950 LOT Polish Airlines
2240 - 1030 El Al Isreal Airlines
2140 - 1055 Air Baltic
2140 - 1105 Alitalia
Vnukovo
2225 - 1040 Turkish Airlines
In addition, the pitstop times seem off. Using what we know: ~Jun 11. Chips/Tery & Lexi got to the Classroom before 0800 (HoO). They then took the test ~12 times (you see them failing #11) If we use 2-5 mins a round that's 24-60 minutes. 20 minutes by taxi to the Movers detour. Since N&N were arriving as T&L were leaving, and were ~1.5 hours behind, we can ballpark .5-1.0 hours for Movers (Chips & T/L are in much better shape). 20 minutes by taxi to the park, 5-10 mins or so looking for the PS and we have a range from 0920 to 1100 for them to get to the PS yet they leave at 7:32PM... 9-10 hours PS? From the shadows as the twins ran to the pitstop, I was figuring 1030-1130, so 1115 + 10 = 2155 and it works, But from the shadows Abbey and Ryan would have been around 1730 ., so with their 0528 departure, this puts them at 1930 if we use the 10 hours above.. You can still see sunlight hitting the tops of the trees when Josh and Brent arrive, so they got there before 2112 (sunset) and we know them to be almost 3 hours behind (0811 departure). This causes another snag though... 10 hours would be 2211, almost an hour after sunset.
Thoughts?
It seemed like this episode was refurbished with old tasks instead of creating new ones. :duno:
Fast Forward: Ride bus & eat herring before time runs out - DETOUR: Quick And Easy Meal / ride ferris wheel and eat Cornish hen before time runs out (from Unfinished Business, Austria)
Route info task: Cake with clue - French bread with clue (season 16, 1st France leg)
Detour A: Replicate art with humans - DETOUR: Honor The Past / replicate play people with replicant models (from Unfinished Business, 2nd China leg)
Detour B: Operate music organ to earn money - most recently DETOUR: Shake Your Money Maker / dance in Indonesian costumes and earn money (season 19, 1st Indonesia leg)
Roadblock: Switchback is self-explanatory... :)
FFs are so much more interesting when two teams are competing against each other like last season. When only one team can do it at a time it's merely about who is the first there and because of that most teams won't even consider going to it.
I actually can't imagine if Trey & Lexi are really going to France, though that seems impossible.
Dr. Rox,
Also, Nadine and Nadiya had an earlier arrival, so why would they have been interested in the nonstop arriving about 2 hours later?
Also, I feel that the Chippendales are so stupid using the U-turn on Abbie/Ryan, considering that they were an alliance before and didn't want to upset them, they should have u-turn the Twins as they already knew the twins got the FF!! Which is the perfect decision as it would leave Texas to u-turn Abbie/Ryan then and the Chips didn't need to feel bad about it! Why wouldn't they think about that??
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Also, I feel that the Chippendales are so stupid using the U-turn on Abbie/Ryan, considering that they were an alliance before and didn't want to upset them, they should have u-turn the Twins as they already knew the twins got the FF!! Which is the perfect decision as it would leave Texas to u-turn Abbie/Ryan then and the Chips didn't need to feel bad about it! Why wouldn't they think about that??
They probably aren't smart enough. -_- Sadly.
I'm a little confused by the flights out of Moscow, do airlines run different schedules in the summer? In looking at the site I use in the fantasy games, I found 2 direct flights that leaves at 2155 and gets in at 2240 (KLM and Aeroflot) in Amsterdam at Sheremetyevo. The first 2 teams should have had plenty of time to make these flighst. All of these flights would have arrived ahead of the ones they were on as well:
Domodedovo
2310 - 0830 Ukraine Intl Airlines
2310 - 1135 Ukraine Intl Airlines
Sheremetyevo
2155 - 2240 KLM
2155 - 2240 Aeroflot
0645 - 0720 KLM
0645 - 0720 Aeroflot
2345 - 0840 Czech Airlines
2225 - 0855 Air France
2205 - 0950 LOT Polish Airlines
2240 - 1030 El Al Isreal Airlines
2140 - 1055 Air Baltic
2140 - 1105 Alitalia
Vnukovo
2225 - 1040 Turkish Airlines
In addition, the pitstop times seem off. Using what we know: ~Jun 11. Chips/Tery & Lexi got to the Classroom before 0800 (HoO). They then took the test ~12 times (you see them failing #11) If we use 2-5 mins a round that's 24-60 minutes. 20 minutes by taxi to the Movers detour. Since N&N were arriving as T&L were leaving, and were ~1.5 hours behind, we can ballpark .5-1.0 hours for Movers (Chips & T/L are in much better shape). 20 minutes by taxi to the park, 5-10 mins or so looking for the PS and we have a range from 0920 to 1100 for them to get to the PS yet they leave at 7:32PM... 9-10 hours PS? From the shadows as the twins ran to the pitstop, I was figuring 1030-1130, so 1115 + 10 = 2155 and it works, But from the shadows Abbey and Ryan would have been around 1730 ., so with their 0528 departure, this puts them at 1930 if we use the 10 hours above.. You can still see sunlight hitting the tops of the trees when Josh and Brent arrive, so they got there before 2112 (sunset) and we know them to be almost 3 hours behind (0811 departure). This causes another snag though... 10 hours would be 2211, almost an hour after sunset.
Thoughts?