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Archive => RFF Archived Boards => Amazing Race 21 Spoilers Archive => Topic started by: georgiapeach on July 11, 2012, 09:07:01 PM
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From CBS:
Sunday, Sept. 30
8:00-9:00 PM THE AMAZING RACE (21st edition premiere)
:conf: :conf: :conf:
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Awesome! Can't wait to follow the new season here. You guys do great work with spoilers. I've been lurking for a while :lol:
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Awesome! Can't wait to follow the new season here. You guys do great work with spoilers. I've been lurking for a while :lol:
:hello2: and :wel2 to RFF Magnus!!
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Awesome! Can't wait to follow the new season here. You guys do great work with spoilers. I've been lurking for a while :lol:
:hello2: and :wel2 to RFF Magnus!!
Thanks! I like it already.
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:hello2: and :wel2 to RFF Magnus!!
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Hopefully its not delayed since revenge premieres right after it! :lol:
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Kandace,
The 2012 Ryder Cup match play finishes on Sept. 30. It is being held in Chicago so the sun goes down later there. It is a distinct possibility that AR21's debut may be delayed.
There is a wealth of competing TV shows that evening in addition to the Revenge premiere (which I probably will have to watch the following day). There is an NBC Sunday night football game between Philadelphia and the N.Y. Giants starting at 830pm.
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All I can say is yeah, 48 days to go.
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Kandace,
The 2012 Ryder Cup match play finishes on Sept. 30. It is being held in Chicago so the sun goes down later there. It is a distinct possibility that AR21's debut may be delayed.
There is a wealth of competing TV shows that evening in addition to the Revenge premiere (which I probably will have to watch the following day). There is an NBC Sunday night football game between Philadelphia and the N.Y. Giants starting at 830pm.
Golf is not a sport that it carries on later than its time slot. And there can't be a playoff in the Ryder Cup unlike the Presidents Cup. Unless there is a rain delay or lightning delay, the Ryder Cup will not run past its time slot. Golf only runs past its time slot when there is a playoff or a rain delay, there cant be a playoff in the Ryder Cup, so rain is the only thing that can cause it to run over its time slot.
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I can't recall if this has been mentioned here yet or not, but the NFL has made a second change in the broadcast rules in addition to the delay of the start time for late Sunday afternoon games. This only affect you in you are in a primary or secondary NFL market, and if your team does not sell out seats for home games 100% of all seats.
Basically as I understand it, what it does is allow the home team to aim for 80% of all seats sold but give the NFL a portion of ticket revenue if any seats are sold above that threshold. The bottom line, some TV markets may get to carry their team's home games that have not been able to, and thus on home game Sundays, that will affect which NFL games they may get on their local CBS station. (Especially if their team is in the NFC, and get a early afternoon home game; that will almost always require that market to get a late afternoon CBS game.)
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I consider the delay in start of the second games to be the most significant change in how games are broadcast for 2012. This has been mentioned here before, but that what will happen is that kickoffs for late games will be moved back 10 minutes, from 4:15 ET to 4:25. This will most certainly mean more delays in the start of the CBS evening TV lineup from 60 Minutes on whenever CBS has the "late game."
What I am unclear about is whether this affects only the designated national game which started in 2011 at 415pm or also any other games which started in the off-weeks at 405pm.
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Wow, they've effectively move the start back 20 minutes in 2 years. And the delays were bad enough with 4:05 starts. CBS just needs to bite the bullet and move all of their Sunday Primetime back a half hour or even an hour. Last year, the DVR timer with a half hour padding was sometimes not enough. I'll probably need an hour extra this year.
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Only the nationally televised double header games will start at 4:25pm Eastern Time. Late single games will start at 4:05.
CBS will have double header Sundays on Oct 7, 21, Nov 4, 18, Dec 2. Those can just about be counted as a delayed start for TAR.
The other Sundays in the season, CBS has late single games that could cause local delays in the start of TAR in the Eastern and Central time zone cities associated with those late games.
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Dr. Rox,
How many 4:05pm start games do you know that finish before 7pm? My estimate is far less than half. Yes, the 20 minute difference in start time does make it more likely, but most late games will overrun 7pm and push the CBS Sunday evening schedule into a delay mode.
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Dr. Rox,
How many 4:05pm start games do you know that finish before 7pm? My estimate is far less than half. Yes, the 20 minute difference in start time does make it more likely, but most late games will overrun 7pm and push the CBS Sunday evening schedule into a delay mode.
More like ALL CBS double headers WILL delay the CBS Primetime Sunday line-up! While some games do last under 3 hours in real time, it's actually 2:45 (7:10 start for 60 Minutes at the earliest). Also, as is the custom for CBS double-headers, they wait until all of the games have concluded prior to the start of 60 Minutes. So if the Pats or Ravens are done by, say 7:30, but Denver or Oakland are still in play, they'll switch to that game.
In addition, the new overtime rules are now in effect in the regular season. So, what that means is if a team takes 9 minutes (game time) off the clock, but kicks a FG, the other team will have to match that (or beat that) for the game to end. And if they match it, it's sudden death. In conclusion, it could be 8:00 ET, and 60 minutes still could be in waiting. Interesting times!
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CBS will have double header Sundays on Oct 7, 21, Nov 4, 18, Dec 2. Those can just about be counted as a delayed start for TAR.
I guess that statement was a little too subtle for some people. So I will rephrase it.
EVERYONE in the Eastern and Central Time zone will have a football related delay in the start of TAR on those 5 Sundays!!
If CBS has multiple late games on their double header Sundays, they will all switch to the latest ending game. This allows CBS to sync all their local markets to the same start time for 60 Minutes and the rest of the prime time schedule. A 4:25pm start time and game time of ~3 hours (optimistic estimate) gives a game ending of 7:25 pm and then few minutes wrap up. So I would assume they are planning on starting 60 Minutes at 7:35pm....a delay of 35 minutes. I personally think this is VERY optimistic projection.
As far as the 4:05 late single games, I think everyone has to analyze their own particular market. As far as my particular market, I live in an NFC town in the Central Time zone. The home team normally plays in the late games on FOX. If they are playing a visiting team from the AFC, then the game will be on CBS usually in the 4:05 time slot. When it plays a late game on FOX, the local CBS affiliate doesnt like to schedule a comepting game, so they will schedule one of the early games on CBS. When the local team goes to the east coast, they sometime have to play the early game on FOX....so that does leave the local affiliate a chance to schedule the 4:05 time slot.
I suspect that my local market will have a late CBS game on Sept 30. The local NFL team, normally on FOX, does not play that Sunday, so the local CBS affiliate will get to pick either an early game or late game that day. I suspect they will pick the Denver game, because of Manning.It odd that they never pick the other team in the state to show. I guess they dont like that team, because we never get their games. All the local network affiliates here, like to fill up that early Sunday afternoon telecast time with Infomericals.
apskip.......the 4:05 game delays WILL ONLY affect the markets where they were shown in the eastern and central time zone. These games ARE NOT nationally televised. My local CBS market rarely even schedules them, unless it involves the local NFC team playing an away game with a AFC team. In the last two years, my CBS programming has only been delayed when the local NFC team played on CBS late. The rest of the time, 60 Minutes and TAR started at the regular time. If CBS has multiple late single games, they normally switch to the game ending last so they can sync their prime time programming to the same time so they only have to produce one EAST coast feed for the eastern and central time zones, but this is not always the case. Just depends if the games are likely to end at approximately the same time.
FOX and CBS used to alternate the double header Sundays. But they seem to have reached an aggreement to allow some shifting in that arrangement. During the fall run of CBS prime time schedule, we only get 5 CBS double header Sundays. CBS has switched some Sundays with FOX. So for the 12 week run of TAR, CBS has 5 Sundays with double header games and FOX has 7. CBS gets extra double header Sundays before and after TAR has run along, with the rest of their prime time schedule. Again this switch only affects the Sunday prime time CBS schedule, but we do get less chances of football delay.
There are a lot of different rule changes this year. How that will affect the length of the game is yet to TBC...lol Also the role of the replacement referees is unknown at this time. We will just have to wait and see what happens with those aspects.
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Hopefully its not delayed since revenge premieres right after it! :lol:
You should live in Australia. Revenge and TAR are on the same network so theres no chance of clashing.
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CBS is finally acknowledging the obvious.
Starting this coming weekend, whenever CBS has the NFL doubleheader games on Sunday, the time schedule for Sunday's prime time programming will be listed as starting one half hour later for programming schedules, and CBS is adopting an enhance Eye-lert system that will notify viewers of the adjusted start times for Sunday nights.
Here's the CBS press release this morning:
CBS LAUNCHES TWO INITIATIVES TO HELP VIEWERS NAVIGATE ADJUSTED START TIMES FOR SUNDAY SERIES ON NFL DOUBLEHEADER WEEKENDS
CBS's Primetime Shows Will Be Listed to Start 30 Minutes Later Than Usual on NFL Doubleheader Dates In Eastern and Central Time Zones, With "60 Minutes" Leading the Night at 7:30 PM, ET/6:30 PM, CT
CBS's Enhanced Multi-Platform Eye-lert System
Enables Viewers to Receive Updates on Further Changes To Primetime Series Affected by Sunday Football Overruns Via SMS Texts, Twitter, Facebook Posts and/or the Previously Established Email Alerts
In an effort to further assist CBS's Sunday night viewers in navigating primetime series time changes due to NFL overruns, CBS will list the scheduled start times for its Sunday night series 30 minutes later in Eastern and Central Time zones on doubleheader weekends. The Network also unveiled a multi-platform upgrade to the CBS Eye-lert system, which informs viewers of any further adjusted start times.
In response to the history of primetime delays on doubleheader weekends and the NFL's recent announcement to move the kickoff time of the late afternoon games from 4:15 to 4:25 PM, ET, CBS will now list its lineup on NFL doubleheader Sundays as follows:
7:30 PM, ET/6:30 PM, CT -- 60 MINUTES
8:30 PM, ET/7:30 PM, CT -- BIG BROTHER 14 (through Sept. 23) THE AMAZING RACE (as of Sept. 30)
9:30 PM, ET/8:30 PM, CT -- THE GOOD WIFE
10:30 PM, ET/9:30 PM, CT -- THE MENTALIST
The NFL on CBS's 2012 doubleheader Sundays are: Sept. 16 and 23; Oct. 7 and 21; Nov. 4 and 18; and Dec. 2, 16 and 30. The start times for Sunday primetime series in Mountain and Pacific Time zones will remain as previously scheduled on those dates.
Additionally, CBS has upgraded its Eye-lert system, which originally debuted in 2007 as a means of informing viewers of the delayed start times of CBS's Sunday night programs affected by football overruns.
Fans can now go to www.cbs.com/eye-lerts to sign up for SMS texts, Twitter tweets, Facebook updates and/or the previously established email alerts. Viewers who are already registered for alert emails through the previous system will continue to receive them unless they choose to unsubscribe.
Also, within a few weeks - prior to CBS's official premiere week (Sept. 24-30) - viewers will be able to sign up for SMS text Eye-lerts without having to go online by texting a short code directly from their mobile device to register. Details on this additional registration option will be announced in the coming weeks.
In addition to the Eye-lert updates, CBS will continue to aggressively use on-air graphics on Sunday nights to alert viewers to adjusted start times.
Read more at http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2012/09/11/cbs-launches-two-initiatives-to-help-viewers-navigate-adjusted-start-times-for-sunday-series-on-nfl-doubleheader-weekends-372500/20120911cbs01/#eKBbo6Y6FDIqfkzq.99
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It will be interesting to see if CBS keeps that temporary schedule. The two FOX 4:25 start games ended almost right at 8 pm et.. We will have the next two weeks to see how CBS differs from that time frame.
CBS doesnt have any 4:05 games scheduled till the day of the start of TAR, so there is not a way to see how they will handle that. But we can see about how long the delay will be, by comparing ending times with the FOX games the next two weeks.
Personally, I think the 4:05 games will cause a 30 minute delay and the 4:25 games will cause an hour delay.
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Canada CTV - 20:00 every Sunday.
No football, golf, hockey or tennis to delay.
Looks like we'll be seeing it at least 30 minutes before you most of the time.
Ohhhh, Canada...
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I know there is no TAR today but its 7:00 PM and the Jets/Steelers game on CBS that started at 4:25 PM still has 11 minutes to go. An indicator of whats to come in future weeks.
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redwings, CBS has already said the start times will be pushed back a half hour on doubleheader Sundays amd the cable and newspaper guides are reflecting that in their listings. The question is whether they run past the half hour they've already shifted.
And September 30th is not a doubleheader Sunday.
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Well FOX had two 4:05 games today. One was over at 7:03 and the 2nd was over at 7:31. So the range difference means that Sept 30th TAR can start anytime. Again, it depends 1)on which of the games you get, 2) if the game ends quickly or long, 3) if CBS decides to wait till last game is over to start/coordinate it's prime time schedule.
Btw, the two 4:25 games on CBS were over at 7:29 and 7:31. So appears that on double header Sundays on CBS, they have about got the later start for the prime time set about right.
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And the games were all officiated by replacement referees; which meant they were on average taking longer to sort out penalties and instant replay review of plays, and even with that 60 Minutes started at 37 past the hour.
So yes, the 30 minute reset seems to be about right, especially if the regular officiating crews come back.
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NFL.COM has 3 games on Sept. 30th starting at 4:05ET.
tvguide.com has 60 min. and TAR starting on time. I doubt that will happen.
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dpe, there are no national late games on CBS on September 30th; all CBS markets will only air one game. Some markets on the east coast feed may be airing the 4:05 games (we won't know which one until the Tuesday before the 30th) but for most places who take the CBS east coast feed, the game will start on time.
(CBS has scheduled a one hour rodeo broadcast after the NFL, and local news and programming will then air until 60 Minutes at 7pm. That's one reason why we know TAR is expected to start on time that night for most east and central time zone markets.)
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AWESOME... can't wait for the 30th :duno:
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30th lol!
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30th lol!
Lol. But, for me, it's October the 1st.
This is because I live in Asia {Malaysia}
It's at 8p.m. (for you guys), right?
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dpe, there are no national late games on CBS on September 30th; all CBS markets will only air one game. Some markets on the east coast feed may be airing the 4:05 games (we won't know which one until the Tuesday before the 30th) but for most places who take the CBS east coast feed, the game will start on time.
(CBS has scheduled a one hour rodeo broadcast after the NFL, and local news and programming will then air until 60 Minutes at 7pm. That's one reason why we know TAR is expected to start on time that night for most east and central time zone markets.)
Except if your 405pm game to Eastern Time Zone cities runs past 7pm, which several of them could.
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dpe, there are no national late games on CBS on September 30th; all CBS markets will only air one game. Some markets on the east coast feed may be airing the 4:05 games (we won't know which one until the Tuesday before the 30th) but for most places who take the CBS east coast feed, the game will start on time.
(CBS has scheduled a one hour rodeo broadcast after the NFL, and local news and programming will then air until 60 Minutes at 7pm. That's one reason why we know TAR is expected to start on time that night for most east and central time zone markets.)
Except if your 405pm game to Eastern Time Zone cities runs past 7pm, which several of them could.
Cincinnati at Jacksonville, Oakland at Denver, and Miami at Arizona are the 3 games being broadcasted on CBS at the 4:05 Timeslot. So the Miami, Cincinnati, and Jacksonville markets will most likely have delays. Other than those markets, CBS should broadcast early games on the East Coast feed. So in general, most markets on the east coast feed should receive TAR on time.
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We'll know more about which CBS markets are getting those games around Tuesday of next week. CBS and the NFL don't decide which other markets will get the late afternoon games until then. (Example West Palm Beach, Ft. Myers and some central Florida markets (and central Texas) might get the Dolphins game (and central Texas because the rookie starting quarterback graduated from Texas A&M); that's one reason why I don't want to discuss specific markets until the programming information becomes available.
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I agree with you the_schnauzers......we need to wait till next week to see just what CBS will decide.
One thing they will not do is to show the Mia game @ College Station. College Station is a secondary market of the Houston Texas. The Texan game will most certainlly be sold out and that game will be shown in College Station. You idea is excellent, just a bad example. Central Texas (Waco/Austin) is a different story. Waco is a secondary market of the Cowboys...but Dallas plays on Monday night....so they might pick up the Houston game too. Austin will probably pick up the Houston game too....just depends on how CBS decides to spread out their games that day. Since CBS doesn't have to worry about conflicts with the Dallas markets....I would assume they will flood all of the Texas CBS markets with the Texans game.
Which brings me back to the your orginal statment....we just need to wait a week and see what CBS decides. We can speculate forever...and it wont make much difference.
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I will agree with all that. I was making a general statement that most markets will not be delayed. If you are a football fan, you should know which game you will get. I live in Iowa and I am 99% sure I will get the Kansas City game on CBS at the 1:00 P.M. timeslot. This is following the typical trends in my area.
I will agree that the only way to know for sure is to wait and see what CBS decides.
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If today's late games are any indication, TAR will be starting late in the coming weeks. It is 19.55 EDT and the PIT/OAK game is not yet over.
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And it is finally over at 20.03 EDT. If TAR were starting tonight it would not have begun before 21.05
If that final field goal had been missed and the game gone to overtime, 60 minutes may not have concluded until 21.30
Look forward to a lot of late starts this season, I would set your recording devices to run to 22.00 or just watch it online on Monday
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Today I saw on TV guide today that The Amazing Race was listed to start at 8:30 ET on October 7th a day where CBS has the Double Header. Is CBS going to officially set the start time for days with double headers 30 minutes later than usual?
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Yes Jimmer25. It was already discussed upthread.
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Yes Jimmer25. It was already discussed upthread.
Oh, sorry. I didn't see that.
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As I supected, Dallas area will show the Tenn/Houston game at noon CDT. TAR will start ontime at 7pm CDT.
The national maps are late again this week. If you want a good online TV viewing guide, I would reccomend www.titantv.com You can customize it to your zipcode. If you use a cable or satellite provider, you can set it to that providers channels. If you use over the air broadcast TV, you can also set it to that. You can delete all the channels you do not wish to be in your channel list. It normally has the schedule up about two weeks in advance.
On the Sundays, that CBS has single games......you can know about two weeks in advance if you will get one of the late games. But CBS sometimes makes changes up to about 72 hours before game time.
Again, the delayed starts to TAR, for CBS single game Sundays will only affect viewers in the Eastern and Central Time zones. On CBS double header Sundays, all viewers in Eastern and Central time zones will be delayed by at least 30 minutes due to CBS altering the start of their prime time schedule. For the most part, I think it will be delayed longer than that for those 5 Sundays.
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Here is the list of metro areas to be broadcast in 405pm games by CBS and potentially affected by a delay with completion past 7pm):
Oakland/Denver - Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, Jackson MS, St. Louis, Indianapolis, Detroit, Atlanta, Charlotte, New York City
Cincinnati/Jacksonville - most of Ohio except Cleveland, eastern Tennessee, southern West Virginia, Panhandle Florida, Jacksonville, Savannah
Miami/Arizona - Miami, Orlando, Mobile
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Here is the list of metro areas to be broadcast in 405pm games by CBS and potentially affected by a delay with completion past 7pm):
Oakland/Denver - Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, Jackson MS, St. Louis, Indianapolis, Detroit, Atlanta, Charlotte, New York City
Cincinnati/Jacksonville - most of Ohio except Cleveland, eastern Tennessee, southern West Virginia, Panhandle Florida, Jacksonville, Savannah
Miami/Arizona - Miami, Orlando, Mobile
If you look at the map posted at The506.com http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/2012/wk4.html (http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/2012/wk4.html) it will confirm that quite a few major markets are getting the late game, especially including NYC.
There may be changes as local stations can ask to be switched to a different game as late as Friday.
But having NYC, most of Florida and Atlanta, Detroit, and St. Louis is quite a bit of the east coast feed.
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Oh joy. :(
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Since the maps went up late I held off checking to see if any markets were changed, and there were no changes this week. (That is rare for CBS.)
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At the beginning of the 4th quarter it was 624pm. That means that those receiving the Broncos/Raiders game will likely see 60 Minutes by about 710pm unless CBS elects a reroute all to the last of the 3 405pm games to finish.
The Broncos are up 34-6, so overtime will not be a factor.
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Can I know how many time is left until the episode is broadcasted? I have no idea about how those timings and matches and stuff works. Is it about 2 hours? Or how's that?
Thanks a lot! :D
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David,
If the game ends and 60 Minutes starts at 710pm, Amazing Race 21 starts at 810pm. That is 80 minutes from right now.
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David,
If the game ends and 60 Minutes starts at 710pm, Amazing Race 21 starts at 810pm. That is 80 minutes from right now.
Thanks a lot! :D
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I'm monitoring the Miami at Arizona game online, and they're currently about 7 minutes left in the 4th quarter, with Miami having just scored to take a 21-14 lead. Looks like people in Florida are going to have a delay no matter what.
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The OAK/DEN games is over. I estimate that 5 minutes of baloney will follow unless CBS elects to show the finish of other games.
We can expect AR21 to start around 810pm EDT.
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60 Minutes started at 705pm EDT. AR21 should start at 805pm
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Arizona just scored with :21 left in regulation and tied up the game with Miami, so it looks like this one is headed into overtime.
Sorry for the folks in Florida.
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Miami versus Arizona is over in overtime, so the folks in Florida will be roughly 35 minutes behind most of the east coast tonight.
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The Amazing Race @AmazingRace_CBS
#CBSEyeAlert: due 2 live NFL football Sun,new start time for #AmazingRace (8:37pmET) for Miami,Orlando,FtMeyers,Mobile viewers ONLY
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Assignment of CBS NFL doubleheader games for 10/7 to areas of the U.S. is:
No game - Indianapolis, Pittsburgh
Denver vs. New England - most of the U.S. except below and above
Tennessee vs. Minnesota - MN, ND, SD, small NW corner of IL, large western part of WI
Buffalo vs. San Francisco - upstate NY, almost all of AZ, northern CA, almost all of Oregon, small part of NW Nevada
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The folks in Indianapolis and Pittsburgh likely won't get the game earlier than the rest of the east coast, they will probably get the tail end of the NFL coverage until the east coast feed is ready for 60 Minutes.
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For those in the Denver/New England game areas, this game is at the 2 minute warning and will be finished just after 730pm. There is likely to be a few minute delay on the start of 60 Minutes.
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60 Minutes did start at 733 pm EDT in the East and Central Time zone parts which had the New England/Denver game.
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The Tennessee game ended just after the New England game, and we've got 60 Minutes at about 5 to 6 minutes late.
Waiting for the Eye-lert.
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CBS Tweet @CBSTweet
#CBSEyeAlert: due 2 live football Sun,new program times ET/CT Zones ONLY 60Mins (7:32 #AmazingRace (8:32)#GoodWife (9:32) Mentalist (10:32)
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The on-screen Eye-lert update for those who got the Tennessee game is TAR begins at 8:35 pm ET.
Apparently the feeds are going to differ by a few minutes depending on which late game you got this afternoon.
And off-topic, but this is my 2000th post at RFF!
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The on-screen Eye-lert update for those who got the Tennessee game is TAR begins at 8:35 pm ET.
Apparently the feeds are going to differ by a few minutes depending on which late game you got this afternoon.
And off-topic, but this is my 2000th post at RFF!
:( I guess I can't be online and comment.
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Sure you can!! Use the live stream, that is the standard!
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Sure you can!! Use the live stream, that is the standard!
I didn't. I'd much rather watch it 3 minutes later and in HD over a stream.
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The on-screen Eye-lert update for those who got the Tennessee game is TAR begins at 8:35 pm ET.
Apparently the feeds are going to differ by a few minutes depending on which late game you got this afternoon.
And off-topic, but this is my 2000th post at RFF!
theschnauzers,
I do not want to see recognition of your 2000th lost in the shuffle of comments. Congratulations!
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apskip, it wasn't overlooked. Texas Lady started a thread to commemorate the occasion. But thanks!
Anyhow, the NFL game distribution maps for the CBS games Sunday aren't posted yet, but there will be some areas in the CBS east coast feed that will be getting the late games (New England at Seattle or Buffalo at Arizona) even though this is not a doubleheader week for CBS.
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These will be 4:05 games....so maybe TAR will start right around 8/7pm.
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I had my first ever experience with a TAR advance or anti-delay or whatever you want to call it this past Sunday. After all the announcements about TAR starting at 8:30 PM to cut down on football overrun delays and after seeing Directv channel listings showing TAR starting at 8:30 PM, I was fully expecting TAR to start at 8:30 PM here on the west coast, even though football had been over for a couple of hours. Fortunately, just after 8 PM, something in the back of my mind told me to check and make sure. So, I turn on the TV at 8:03 and Holy Crap! Abbie and Ryan are ripping open a clue!
I've learned my lesson. I don't care what the Directv schedule says, I'm checking in at 7:55 PM for the rest of the season. I threw this out here for everyone else to consider too.
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Plaidmoon, the 8:30 pm time is only for the east coast feed; the west coast feed remains at its usual 8:00pm PT for the west coast feed.
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The game distribution maps are up for Sunday:
http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/2012/wk6.html (http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/2012/wk6.html)
Areas getting the late games include:
All of New England, western New York state, Philadelphia and Baltimore markets, Detroit and eastern Michigan, St. Louis, Dallas, Austin, Brownsville, and much of central west Texas, Miami, Orlando, and the south and central east coast of Florida. and Milwaukee market.
Quite a few NFL home markets in that list.
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8:30 start tonight or 8:00 with delays?
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The Amazing Race
Due to Live football Sunday, The Amazing Race will air at 8:22pm ET & 7:22pm CT in New England area, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Miami/Orlando/Palm Beach, St. Louis, Detroit, Milwaukee and Dallas.
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Polarod, that Eye-lert only went out to those areas with the east coast feed that got the game that overran its time slot. Most of us getting the east coast feed this past Sunday were not delayed.
In the meantime, as of just now, the506.com has not yet posted the distribution maps for this coming Sunday, which is a NFL doubleheader Sunday for CBS.
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We now have the distribution maps for Sunday's NFL doubleheader on CBS, and with the exception of the primary and secondary markers for the Jacksonville team, the entire country will be getting the New York Jets v. New England late game.
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Since this is a CBS Doubleheader Sunday.......CBS prime time will be automatically delayed 30 minutes on the East Coast feed, but..................
Look for a longer delay. Neither the Jets or Patriots has any kind of running game, so passes will be the majority of plays. Passes mean incomplete passes and clock stoppage. Brady and Belechick dragged out last weeks game almost 30 minutes over the 3 hour timeline.
Jacksonville/Oakland both have more balanced offenses, so it will be interesting to see if CBS feeds those viewers over to the Jets/Patriots game or actually starts their prime time schedule when that game ends.
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Dr Rox, there are only a handful of markets getting the Jacksonville game (Jacksonville, Tallahassee, Ocala, Valdosta, and maybe Savannah) so my guess is that CBS will have the viewers of one game go to the other game before starting the prime time lineup.
FOX had a major league snafu (pun intended) for the baseball playoffs and made a mess of its own schedule in terms of airing the X Factor, not only on its east coast feed, but its west coast feed as well. They are having to preempt their Tuesday night schedule to air (or reair) the entire X Factor episode from Wednesday night, and their Tuesday night shows won't be back until after the election.
It is exactly that sort of thing that networks try to hold their audiences together on both feeds; it is a pain for the network executive who plan the program schedule to have to deal with weather delays for live sports programming.
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Well, maybe we are looking at different maps. The Jacksonville game takes in all of North Florida.....Orlando to Jacksonville and then west to past Tallahassee. It includes the Dothan viewing area of SE Alabama/NW Florida and about 1/3 the state of Georgia...and a small part of South Carolina....probably the part in the Savannah viewing area. It stops about 1/2 way from Savannah to Charleston.
As I said earlier....I hope that there is someone that is in that viewing area that will post and let us know exactly what CBS does if that game ends earlier than the New England/New York game. I would rather know than continually speculate every week exactly what CBS does when they have double header sunday. On single header days, so far, they havent switched to longer running games. They have instead gone right into prime time schedule.
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sigh. If it includes ATL...that will be me.
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Peach, Atlanta is getting the Jets-Patriots game.
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Jets/Patriots had 12 minutes left in the 3rd quarter at 615pm EDT. That means high probability it will be over before 730pm. The question is then whether CBS elects to switch those viewers to the only other doubleheader game, Jacksonville/Oakland.
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Jets/Patriots has 2:06 left. However, the score is 23-23, so the probability of going to Overtime is quite high. That could mean as late as a 8pm start for 60 Minutes.
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There must have been some turnover, as the Jets got the ball deep in Patriots territory. They kicked a field goal for 26-23. There is 1:37 left.
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In 1:37 Patriots drove the whole field to score a field goal as time expired. It's OT at 26-26.
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Field goal by the Pats didn't end it under the new overtime rules; Jets now get a possession.
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Game ends on a fumble due to a sack, my guess is delay will be to 55 after the hour. I am awaiting Eye-lert in my inbox.
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The Jax/Oak game was in overtime too......and it ended almost exactly at the same time as the NE/Jets game.
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60 Minutes started at 7:57pm.
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Revised start times (CT) for tonight's CBS programs: 60 Minutes (6:56 PM), The Amazing Race (7:56 PM), The Good Wife (8:56 PM) and The Mentalist (9:56 PM) due to CBS live coverage of NFL Football .
I'm on Central Time, but for ET, add an hour -- 8:56 PM.
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Here are the places getting the OAK/KC 405pm CBS game:
northern CA
southwestern OR
western WA
northern NV
UT
KS
NE
western 1/4 IA
southwest 2/3 MO
Chicago
eastern half MI
Atlanta
Charlotte
Washington
Baltimore
Pittsburgh
southeastern PA
southern NJ
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Oh Swell! :lol:
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That's 7 of the primary NFL markets getting that late afternoon game. Meanwhile, the Pats-Rams game in London is not going more heavily in the early afternoon slot, even though Alaska and Hawaii are getting that game.
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The KC/Oakland game was running fast at the end of the first half. I predict it will finish by 7pmEDDT even though I cannot see it here.
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Any delay from the OAK/KC game?
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CBSEyeAlert: Due 2 Live football Sun, #AmazingRace airs 8:09pm, ET/7:09 CT in KC area, Atlanta, Detroit, Pitts, Philly, DC and Chicago
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This week is much easier than usual. The entire U.S. except for San Francisco and the western half of Washington will get the Pittsburgh at NY game at 425pm. We can anticipate completion by 730pm until we know better.
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This week is much easier than usual. The entire U.S. except for San Francisco and the western half of Washington will get the Pittsburgh at NY game at 425pm. We can anticipate completion by 730pm until we know better.
It is already an 830 PM start I think??
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Also, everyone please remember that we change off of Daylight Savings time on 11/4. That means we will be turning our clocks BACK an hour at 0200. So to us, 8 PM will become 7PM.
So effectively, the show will seem to be airing an hour later to our International friends. :tup:
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I always hate the time change weekends. It takes me longer each year to adjust.
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This week is much easier than usual. The entire U.S. except for San Francisco and the western half of Washington will get the Pittsburgh at NY game at 425pm. We can anticipate completion by 730pm until we know better.
It is already an 830 PM start I think??
I found the same info on TV.com today.
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apskip is referring to what time the game should end, based on the last couple of weeks. Even though everyone on the east coast feed is getting the same late game; that's no guarantee that the game will actually end by then. So be prepared.
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The Pittsburgh-New York Game went to halftime at 5:54 ET so with a 12 minute halftime, the second half will start at 6:06 ET. I do not think the second half would finish in an hour and 24 minutes so expect a delay for TAR.
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It's 6:30 pm EST and there's 6:43 left in the third quarter; since there's a 7 point margin in the game, it's hard to say with this much time left (21:43 left) whether the game will be finished within this hour or not.
Keep monitoring.
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I have one question. With this daylight saving time, does TAR start one hoir later than usual? I'm in GMT + 7 anyway
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It is scheduled to start tonight at 830, and it is 641 for me now. There COULD be a further delay as well, we dont know yet...
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I have one question. With this daylight saving time, does TAR start one hoir later than usual? I'm in GMT + 7 anyway
Our daylight saving time ended this morning. Hopefully everyone is on the normal time schedule. (I detest daylight saving!) :)
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Thank you Peach and TexasLady :)
Then it will start at 8.30 a.m. here, I guess.
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Thank you Peach and TexasLady :)
Then it will start at 8.30 a.m. here, I guess.
It seems that way. If anything changes we'll post it. :tup:
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Game has ended with a minute to spare, but we'll have to see how long a delay may come from the commercials before 60 Minutes starts.
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Giants/Pittsburgh over at 730pm EST. 60 Minutes started at 734pm.
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60 Minutes' clock started at 33 past the hour, so a roughly 3 minute overrun. Will post Eye-lert if one comes in.
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Revised start times (CT) for tonight's CBS programs: 60 Minutes (6:33 PM), The Amazing Race (7:33 PM), The Good Wife (8:33 PM) and The Mentalist (9:33 PM) due to CBS live coverage of NFL Football.
ET is an hour later, so 8:33 ET is the start time for TAR.
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The 21st Installment of the Nine-Time Emmy Award-Winning Series “The Amazing Race” Crosses the Finish Line with a Two-Hour Season Finale on Sunday, Dec. 9
The final four teams of the nine-time Emmy Award-winning series THE Amazing Race sprint to the final leg of the 21st season during a special two-hour season finale on Sunday, Dec. 9 (8:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Phil Keoghan is host.
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That's what I expected with the start being the end of September, and the 16th being about as late as CBS has daring having a Survivor finale.
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The only 405pm CBS game is Jets/Seattle. Here are the metro areas getting that (everyone else gets no CBS late game):
Washington
Oregon
northern Idaho
Baton Rouge/New Orleans
Atlanta
most of Minnesota
eastern 1/3 ND
eastern 1/3 MI
Cincinnati
New York City
Albany
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There are some updates this week. Three markets have switched from the late game on one of the early games on CBS, and thus for two of them, those markets will not have to worry about overruns and delays in prime time:
Cincinnati, Ohio.
Grand Forks, ND
(Idaho Falls, ID is in the Mountain/Pacific time zone.)
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The Jets/Seattle game is moving along at a smart slip. At 615pm there is 3:36 left in the third quarter. The probability of finishing on or close to 7pm is quite good, except that the 7 point difference in score could mean overtime.
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60 minutes started at 7:05 for those who got the Jets/Seattle game.
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8:04 PM for me!!
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This coming week is a CBS NFL doubleheader week, which means the later start time on the east coast feed, and this week, there are two late games, and the east coast markets are roughly divided in half between the two games.
Indianapolis at New England includes penisular Florida, Houston, Augusta GA/SC, much of North Carolina, most of Iowa, and everything north and east of a line from Chicago to St. Louis to Norfolk, VA.
The San Diego at Denver game will go everywhere else (most of the southern U.S. and the Great Plains and all points to the west; only San Francisco is blacked out, which of course doesn't matter because they get the west coast prime time feed.
The only question is whether CBS will spilt the east coast feed for prime time if the games have different end times.
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Doubleheader game here is Colts/Patriots and just went below 9 minutes left in 3rd period. This game may finish by 730pm.
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Colts-Pats have about 9 minutes remaining and with a 52-24 lead, it's doubtful we'll be looking at any overtime :) However, it might not finish by the half-hour only because of all of the scoring that stops the game clock. (and the incomplete passes from both teams.)
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Canada started at 7 est
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CBS switched the Colts-Patriots audience to the other game which still has about 2:30 left to play, so everyone will be delayed by a few more minutes no matter which late game you were getting in the U.S.
And of course Canada started on time, the CFL doesn't run over does it? :)
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The delay will be to 53 past the hour plus or minus. I will post the CBS Eye-lert when it comes in.
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CBS tweets that the primetime lineup will begin at :52 past the hour.
The Amazing Race will begin at 8:52 p.m. ET/7:52 p.m. CT due to the NFL overrun.
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CBS switched the Colts-Patriots audience to the other game which still has about 2:30 left to play, so everyone will be delayed by a few more minutes no matter which late game you were getting in the U.S.
And of course Canada started on time, the CFL doesn't run over does it? :)
CFL not carried by the same network. We were an hour early for the AMA's
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Oh boy I just love it when The Amazing Race gets delayed by football!!! :res:
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Those lucky Canadians who get the episode almost 2 hours earlier. :tantrum
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CBS Eye-lert confirms TAR at 8:52
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Boy, there was a time lag tonight on the Eye-lerts; mine didn't come in until about 30 second before the show started.
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Next week FOX has the doubleheader, and CBS will only have one late game (5 early games); the seventh game will be their traditional Thanksgiving Day game. No map is out yet.
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Map is out, and there are four areas on the east coast feed getting the one late game on CBS:
Atlanta; Washington-Baltimore-most of the DelMarVa penisula-Harrisburg; Chicago-Milwaukee and most of Minnesota-eastern North Dakota.
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theschnauzers,
I don't know if you missed them or if the guy changed the map......but some areas you left out......Tampa Bay, Miami-Ft Lauderdale and the lower Rio Grande Valley in Texas.....they all get the late game too.
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Those areas were not shown getting the late game when I checked and posted. I don't remember which color the Florida areas were, but the Brownsville area was red when I checked.
He's not listing them as updates, but its possible there was later information that led to corrections that wouldn't be listed as an update (when the station gets a change approved by the NFL and CBS.)
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Checked the maps today and they are basically the same. There are no updates, per se. There is a new category......"TBD" that I don't remember seeing before. It appears that covers the Tampa Bay area.......it seems to be in limbo at the moment.
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Tampa Bay has a home game, and my guess is that it wasn't known if that game was sold out or not. The Tampa Bay home game is on FOX, and if the blackout was lifted that would shift CBS to the late game. If it is not lifted, then CBS would have to air an early game. My guess is that the long holiday weekend is making it difficult to know what is going to happen.
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Anything?
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Ravens vs chargers are on overtime
GO RAVENS :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
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ravens are done and they won :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
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Any delays because of football? None for the Austin area.
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None over here in Virginia.
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Due to Live football Sunday, THE AMAZING RACE airs 8:58pm ET/7:58pm CT ONLY in DC, Baltimore, Atlanta, Tampa, Miami, Milwaukee, Chicago, Minneapolis.
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Damn! :groan:
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Due to Live football Sunday, THE AMAZING RACE airs 8:58pm ET/7:58pm CT ONLY in DC, Baltimore, Atlanta, Tampa, Miami, Milwaukee, Chicago, Minneapolis.
And every one of them is a home market of an NFL team.
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This coming Sunday is a doubleheader Sunday for the NFL on CBS, but the good news is that except for most of Ohio. much of Kentucky, and small parts of Indiana and Michigan, all areas are getting the same game. (And I'm finally getting to see Ryan Tannenhill and the Dolphins as the early game in my area.) The primary late game is Pittsburgh v. Baltimore, Cleveland and Toledo markets are getting the Cleveland v. Oakland game, and the southern Ohio-Indiana-Kentucky area is getting the Cincinnati v. San Diego game.
Taking an advance look at December 9th, it is not a doubleheader on CBS, and the only late game being carried in CBS markets is Miami v. San Francisco; which likely will be just southern Florida getting that late game. There might be other markets, but Miami's away games haven't been sent to too many markets this season.
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The Pittsburgh/Baltimore doubleheader game has gone to 2 minutes left in the first half. That means 60 Minutes starting at 730pm is assured unless the game goes to overtime (which several did today).
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60 Minutes started at 6:41 in Texas........CST
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No CBS Eye-lert in the email yet, but the on-screen notice said TAR would start at :41 after the hour.
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This week's CBS 405pm game map (which is likely to affect many for a short time when it is time for the Amazing Race 21 finale) for San Francisco vs. Miami is:
northern CA
western 2/3 OR
most of NV
UT
Dallas
most of MN
eastern 1/3 ND
Chicago
MIlwaukee
St. Louis
Cincinnati
Atlanta
FL Panhandle
southern 2/3 of FL
Charlotte
Philadelphia
Buffalo
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CBS Tweet @CBSTweet
Due 2 Live football Sun, #AmazingRace,Mentalist delayed 5 mins in Philly,Atl,Florida,Dallas,Chic,Mnpls,Milwk,Cincy,Buff,Charlotte,StL,Fargo