I wouldn't put too much emphasis on it. Remember the Hazard? "A game-changing new addition that will affect one team for the rest of the race" my butt.
At the very beginning, when I intro... when I talk to the teams, I tell them about something that has never ever happened before, because we are always trying to shock them, and I tell them about something that is really exciting, and I can promise you that it will motivate them like they have never been motivated before."
This season's New Twist?
Phil on The View July 9, 2012:
"We are going into our 21st season. (applause)
At the very beginning, when I intro... when I talk to the teams, I tell them about something that has never ever happened before, because we are always trying to shock them, and I tell them about something that is really exciting, and I can promise you that it will motivate them like they have never been motivated before."
I think the Salvage Pass could be changed to: "Keep it and choose any EL LEG until leg 08/09 to make it NEL and save the team". Not that ridiculous thing made in TAR:Aus2 I didn't like it...
I liked the TARAus must-vote u-turn, which hasn't happened in the US version, but I don't think teams would call it "exciting."
Peach, I can't watch the video.
I am wondering if maybe there is some incentive for finishing higher in the rankings on each leg? When I think of people not being really motivated, I think of teams content to repeatedly finish in the middle of the pack, or "not last." Maybe teams could get a little bonus money for the next leg if they place well?
I don't think it is the salvage pass...It better not be. :P Maybe a triple U-Turn! :lol3: Honestly, perhaps TAR should rest on the gimmicks and really pick better racers for us to watch. Please. Oh please.
A new twst on TAR aus...The team who comes in first on the first leg wins it. They then have the power...or not! to use it to "save" the team who comes in last on that leg from elimination. Which makes the first leg a NEL if they use it.
As if the one million and a chance to travel around the world wasn't already a big enough incentive! :lol:
A new twst on TAR aus...The team who comes in first on the first leg wins it. They then have the power...or not! to use it to "save" the team who comes in last on that leg from elimination. Which makes the first leg a NEL if they use it.
Thanks :)
I'm counting down to the next season with watching old seasons. Good memories.
Pretty sure there is no Salvage Pass, lol. Or Hazard Pass.
If they put 2 U-Turns on the race, I'd like one to be a Blind U-Turn (perhaps earlier in the race :)), because we've only seen it in TAR14, as it wasn't aired in TAR15 and the other one could be a Double U-Turn, like with 6-4 teams remaining. I really liked the U-Turn situation in TAR17 :hrt:I don't think it is the salvage pass...It better not be. :P Maybe a triple U-Turn! :lol3: Honestly, perhaps TAR should rest on the gimmicks and really pick better racers for us to watch. Please. Oh please.
This season's New Twist?
Phil on The Talk July 9, 2012:
http://www.youtube.com/v/NPT5itcS6Ok?version=3&hl
"We are going into our 21st season. (applause)
At the very beginning, when I intro... when I talk to the teams, I tell them about something that has never ever happened before, because we are always trying to shock them, and I tell them about something that is really exciting, and I can promise you that it will motivate them like they have never been motivated before."
I was doing the posts on the spoilers thread today, and suddenly the most crazy idea came to my mind: 4 teams racing the final leg for the millon dollars instead of the classic F3. As Phil said, this would be "something that is really exciting" and " it will motivate them like they have never been motivated before."
Based on the fact that the Express Pass is on Leg 2, Leg 1 must have some sort of an incentive pass-like stuff.Adition to Joabs twist.
Which made me think, no Salvage, Hazard pass... how about a Non-Elimination Pass, that they can use on themselves or ANY ONE TEAM that they choose to save on ANY LEG up till Leg 8 (any of the elimination legs).
I was doing the posts on the spoilers thread today, and suddenly the most crazy idea came to my mind: 4 teams racing the final leg for the millon dollars instead of the classic F3. As Phil said, this would be "something that is really exciting" and " it will motivate them like they have never been motivated before."
Based on the fact that the Express Pass is on Leg 2, Leg 1 must have some sort of an incentive pass-like stuff.Adition to Joabs twist.
Which made me think, no Salvage, Hazard pass... how about a Non-Elimination Pass, that they can use on themselves or ANY ONE TEAM that they choose to save on ANY LEG up till Leg 8 (any of the elimination legs).
What if the team who is 2nd last is eliminated when the pass is used.I was doing the posts on the spoilers thread today, and suddenly the most crazy idea came to my mind: 4 teams racing the final leg for the millon dollars instead of the classic F3. As Phil said, this would be "something that is really exciting" and " it will motivate them like they have never been motivated before."
What about 2 teams race for the millon. Less Non-Elimination + Less teams in finale = more motivation = boring.
Could it not just be that the Express Pass is not available on the first leg, but rather the second (or is that just oversimplifying everything)?Maybe in an attempt to counter the Leg 3 winner's curse they wait til then to award the express pass? Then you have the 2 'curses' fighting with each other, Leg 3 winner VS express pass.
I was doing the posts on the spoilers thread today, and suddenly the most crazy idea came to my mind: 4 teams racing the final leg for the millon dollars instead of the classic F3. As Phil said, this would be "something that is really exciting" and " it will motivate them like they have never been motivated before."
Maybe they get a special race credit card that allows them to have unlimited cash every leg (doubtful but would be an interested twist).
I was doing the posts on the spoilers thread today, and suddenly the most crazy idea came to my mind: 4 teams racing the final leg for the millon dollars instead of the classic F3. As Phil said, this would be "something that is really exciting" and " it will motivate them like they have never been motivated before."
This is the most believable and realistic theory in this whole thread! I'll be really unhappy if it's anything like a special pass that grants you powers (too much like Big Brother), but a minor change like this would be brilliant to see! I think you're on to something here Alenaveda!
The team that crosses the finish line first will win 2 million dollars new preview on cbs.com :conf: :conf: :conf:SERIOUSLY???!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o
The team that crosses the finish line first will win 2 million dollars new preview on cbs.com :conf: :conf: :conf:SERIOUSLY???!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o
If that's true, it will be a TOUGH competition in this season! :hearts: :conf:
Yes, I've just read it!! :cheer: :cheer:The team that crosses the finish line first will win 2 million dollars new preview on cbs.com :conf: :conf: :conf:SERIOUSLY???!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o
If that's true, it will be a TOUGH competition in this season! :hearts: :conf:
¡Yes, it's true! :cheer: :cheer:
The announcement is on the official page of TAR on CBS. :trampb:
Is it possible for anyone to get the new video preview on Youtube?
CBS video player gives me nothing but problems and I'm sure I'm not the only one. :knuckles:
Speculation...:winner
Something that provides extra motivation: the team that finishes first wins $2 million. :hoot:
Is it possible for anyone to get the new video preview on Youtube?
CBS video player gives me nothing but problems and I'm sure I'm not the only one. :knuckles:
Is it possible for anyone to get the new video preview on Youtube?
Better a good route than a two million dollar price. :res:
I personally don't care if the price is one or two million dollar.
My theory is that the $2 million grand prize will ONLY be offered to the team that wins Leg 1; if a team wins both Leg 1 and the Final Leg, they will win $2 million instead of $1 million.
I think this makes sense, if you look at the evidence:
- We have reason to believe that the Express Pass was given out to the winners of Leg 2, so it would fit that the $2 million grand prize is the prize for winning the first Leg.
- The last two teams to win Leg 1 (Ernie & Cindy, Rachel & Dave) have won the Race.
- Furthermore, the last time a team won the first leg and failed to make the Final 3 was Season 16 (Jeff & Jordan), and before that, it was Season 12 (Azarea & Hendekea). The team that wins Leg 1 typically finishes the entire Race, even before the Express Pass came into existence, so the excitement of a team possibly winning $2 million would last throughout the whole season.
Here's the Youtube version:
http://www.youtube.com/v/tWXSyNDz5Rw
WHY THEY ALWAYS DO THAT??? :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah:Here's the Youtube version:
http://www.youtube.com/v/tWXSyNDz5Rw
Not available in my country :'(
I don't really see how more money is more motivating. If $1M wasn't good enough, they wouldn't be racing. Heck, promise a great route, and plenty of people would volunteer for a chance at $100k.
Also, I don't even see how, if it just the 1st leg 1st place team that gets it, that is extra motivation, as that is only motivation for that team. Starting with the second episode, the only change is 9 teams are racing for $1M like always, and 1 for $2M. 90% stay the same.
At least they should make it so the winners of the most total legs of the final 3 gets the extra prize money chance. Then, the motivation is not so much the extra money, but the chance at extra money, and that motivation will continue throughout for all the top teams.
It is really meant to motivate people to watch it not motivate the teams
The most recent season I'm aware of (Ernie-Cindy TAR 19) they tweeted a picture of Ernie holding the presentation check, and the indication was then that they were waiting for the whole thing, since they were also planning to start a charity with it as well as their wedding. I'm certain that in the early seasons the teams were paid the full million. And I've never seen anything to suggest that has been changed.
America's Got Talent is on a different network (NBC), and their production costs are different since they have a lot more contestants involved.
The most recent season I'm aware of (Ernie-Cindy TAR 19) they tweeted a picture of Ernie holding the presentation check, and the indication was then that they were waiting for the whole thing, since they were also planning to start a charity with it as well as their wedding. I'm certain that in the early seasons the teams were paid the full million. And I've never seen anything to suggest that has been changed.
America's Got Talent is on a different network (NBC), and their production costs are different since they have a lot more contestants involved.
Thanks leafsfan and theschnauzers! I figured that was probably the case, but I was so surprised at the America's Got Talent payout, that I thought I'd ask. I'd realized that production values on that show must be fairly high since they move hundreds of contestants around the country and pay for days and days of lodging and food bills. It's not surprising that they look for ways to keep their costs down, but a 40 year payout is pretty tacky none the less.
:gaah:
Unless they play with the greed. You know, something like "if the winner of the 1rst leg didn't reach the F3, the following team who arrived at the PitStop in that leg gain the right to win the 2 million prize, and so on if the previous teams are eliminated". This would change the whole strategy on the race, making more fierce the fight for stay in the race, for the use of the U-Turns or even for gaining the Fast Forwards.
They get their million dollar payout on the early show the following day after the finale.
I like Mug's theory of winning the $2 million dollars prize too. You must win the very first leg of the race and the very last leg.
They get their million dollar payout on the early show the following day after the finale.
I like Mug's theory of winning the $2 million dollars prize too. You must win the very first leg of the race and the very last leg.
They haven't gotten the Early Show payout in the last 3 seasons, very sadly. With a change in hosts and producers, The Early Show seems to have given that up.
And Mug's theory...IS correct. ;)
TAR was never crap. :hrt:They get their million dollar payout on the early show the following day after the finale.
I like Mug's theory of winning the $2 million dollars prize too. You must win the very first leg of the race and the very last leg.
They haven't gotten the Early Show payout in the last 3 seasons, very sadly. With a change in hosts and producers, The Early Show seems to have given that up.
And Mug's theory...IS correct. ;)
Is it actually correct? And the 2,000,000 prize money is bad anyway, should have been used to make TAR good again. been crap for the last 2 seasons
Correct. There are better seasons for sure, but not one was a true letdown, at least in my opinion. On the other hand, Season 19 and 18 are probably my least favorite seasons. :(TAR was never crap. :hrt:They get their million dollar payout on the early show the following day after the finale.
I like Mug's theory of winning the $2 million dollars prize too. You must win the very first leg of the race and the very last leg.
They haven't gotten the Early Show payout in the last 3 seasons, very sadly. With a change in hosts and producers, The Early Show seems to have given that up.
And Mug's theory...IS correct. ;)
Is it actually correct? And the 2,000,000 prize money is bad anyway, should have been used to make TAR good again. been crap for the last 2 seasons
I think it might have been mentioned before, but I like the idea of only one of the final 3 being eligible to win $2m. That team is whichever one of the three finished highest in the first leg.
So for example, if you came third in the first leg, you'd only get a shot at $2m if the two teams ahead of you get eliminated.
I don't really see how more money is more motivating. If $1M wasn't good enough, they wouldn't be racing. Heck, promise a great route, and plenty of people would volunteer for a chance at $100k.
Also, I don't even see how, if it just the 1st leg 1st place team that gets it, that is extra motivation, as that is only motivation for that team. Starting with the second episode, the only change is 9 teams are racing for $1M like always, and 1 for $2M. 90% stay the same.
At least they should make it so the winners of the most total legs of the final 3 gets the extra prize money chance. Then, the motivation is not so much the extra money, but the chance at extra money, and that motivation will continue throughout for all the top teams.
It is really meant to motivate people to watch it not motivate the teams
Unless they play with the greed. You know, something like "if the winner of the 1rst leg didn't reach the F3, the following team who arrived at the PitStop in that leg gain the right to win the 2 million prize, and so on if the previous teams are eliminated". This would change the whole strategy on the race, making more fierce the fight for stay in the race, for the use of the U-Turns or even for gaining the Fast Forwards.
That sounds familiar to me. Why?
That sounds familiar to me. Why?
Apologies Alenaveda, I thought I'd read it somewhere already.
It makes the most sence to me, since we had that leg 2 clue saying: "The winner of this leg will win the Express Pass". What would the winner of leg 1 otherwise win?
It makes the most sence to me, since we had that leg 2 clue saying: "The winner of this leg will win the Express Pass". What would the winner of leg 1 otherwise win?
Express Pass On leg 2 ??? where does it say that ???
GA895, most racers are in this flight.
Clue is
make your way to the Alun Alun in Bangkalan and "roll" with the bulls
The winner of this leg will win Express Pass!!!!!!
What if the first team to win the STARTING LINE TASK also got the chance to win the extra money?I haven't seen this, so there are spoilers that prove there is a SLT? :)
Of course, I would HATE this if the SLT was luck-based... But from the spoilers I don't think so.
The extensive use of hours of operation and waiting for transportation makes it high probability that no team will get "way out in front". The last time that happened was Mirna/Charla in AR11 and before that Colin/Christie in AR5.
The extensive use of hours of operation and waiting for transportation makes it high probability that no team will get "way out in front". The last time that happened was Mirna/Charla in AR11 and before that Colin/Christie in AR5.
Also, in TAR 11 Dustin and Kandice got way in front of everyone else. I remember that in Leg 7 in Poland they were like four or five hours ahead of the nearest team and they started Leg 8 before a team or two finished Leg 7. I might have got a detail or two wrong, but thats the gist of what I remember.
Thanks everyone!! :jumpy:
But hmmmm, I also do not believe that $2 million is the whole story.My theory is that the $2 million grand prize will ONLY be offered to the team that wins Leg 1; if a team wins both Leg 1 and the Final Leg, they will win $2 million instead of $1 million.
I think this makes sense, if you look at the evidence:
- We have reason to believe that the Express Pass was given out to the winners of Leg 2, so it would fit that the $2 million grand prize is the prize for winning the first Leg.
- The last two teams to win Leg 1 (Ernie & Cindy, Rachel & Dave) have won the Race.
- Furthermore, the last time a team won the first leg and failed to make the Final 3 was Season 16 (Jeff & Jordan), and before that, it was Season 12 (Azarea & Hendekea). The team that wins Leg 1 typically finishes the entire Race, even before the Express Pass came into existence, so the excitement of a team possibly winning $2 million would last throughout the whole season.
:winner :winner :winner
I heard something about a switchback task in the Netherlands, is it true?Yes, there was some information about the switchback in the official cast reveal article:
What if the first team to win the STARTING LINE TASK also got the chance to win the extra money?
Of course, I would HATE this if the SLT was luck-based... But from the spoilers I don't think so.
You can see many of the spoiler pics from that day in the Location thread! And all the individual rapelling pics in the contestant threads. Chateau was awesome!!
Heee, always nice when TPTB start/end the race in RFF's own backyards!
I heard something about a switchback task in the Netherlands, is it true?Yes, there was some information about the switchback in the official cast reveal article:
'Teams will also face one of the game's "most infamous Roadblocks" in the Netherlands in this season's "Switchback," the network added.'
The Netherlands Roadblocks HistoryI'm still hoping it's 'one of the race's most infamous roadblocks', but done in The Netherlands only this time :S Because of these 3, I'd only like to see 15th season's RB, and it's not really possible...
Season 4, Leg 5
In the Roadblock, one team member to get on a marked boat and using only their hands to catch 25 eels and put them in a marked container. Only the fisherman would get their next clue.
Season 12, Leg 2
In the Roadblock for this leg, one team member had to play a sport called fierljeppen by completing a single vault over a 12 feet (3.7 m) wide irrigation ditch and landing on both feet on the marshy grass at the other side.
Season 15, Leg 7
In this leg's Roadblock, one team member had to climb to the top of the Martinitoren and count all of the bells in the carillon. When they gave the right number (62) to the carillonneur, they would receive their next clue. If they provided the wrong number, they would have to climb back up to the carillon to count again. This Roadblock's hint is a reference to the first (aired) Roadblock ever on The Amazing Race.
I bet it's the season's 4 roadblock since season's 12 is WAY to easy co call "infamous" and season's 15 "secret answer" is no longer a secret
The switchback task might not be a task that was origanalily a roadblock (im thinking either detour option on TAR15 that cost Maria & Tiffany the race)
The switchback task might not be a task that was origanalily a roadblock (im thinking either detour option on TAR15 that cost Maria & Tiffany the race)
Based on previous experiences with switchbacks (hay bales on TAR6 & TAR18 and shaving heads on TAR5, TAR9 & TAR20) if there's one, is gonna be one the RB already performed in TAR4, TAR12 or TAR15.
The switchback task might not be a task that was origanalily a roadblock (im thinking either detour option on TAR15 that cost Maria & Tiffany the race)
Based on previous experiences with switchbacks (hay bales on TAR6 & TAR18 and shaving heads on TAR5, TAR9 & TAR20) if there's one, is gonna be one the RB already performed in TAR4, TAR12 or TAR15.
TAR 7, not TAR 9. TAR 9 didn't even visit India. :lol:
The switchback task might not be a task that was origanalily a roadblock (im thinking either detour option on TAR15 that cost Maria & Tiffany the race)
Based on previous experiences with switchbacks (hay bales on TAR6 & TAR18 and shaving heads on TAR5, TAR9 & TAR20) if there's one, is gonna be one the RB already performed in TAR4, TAR12 or TAR15.
The switchback task might not be a task that was origanalily a roadblock (im thinking either detour option on TAR15 that cost Maria & Tiffany the race)
Based on previous experiences with switchbacks (hay bales on TAR6 & TAR18 and shaving heads on TAR5, TAR7 & TAR20) if there's one, is gonna be one the RB already performed in TAR4, TAR12 or TAR15.
TAR 20 had a Switchback Fast Forward. :)
The switchback task might not be a task that was origanalily a roadblock (im thinking either detour option on TAR15 that cost Maria & Tiffany the race)
Based on previous experiences with switchbacks (hay bales on TAR6 & TAR18 and shaving heads on TAR5, TAR9 & TAR20) if there's one, is gonna be one the RB already performed in TAR4, TAR12 or TAR15.
TAR 20 had a Switchback Fast Forward. :)
The switchback task might not be a task that was origanalily a roadblock (im thinking either detour option on TAR15 that cost Maria & Tiffany the race)
Based on previous experiences with switchbacks (hay bales on TAR6 & TAR18 and shaving heads on TAR5, TAR9 & TAR20) if there's one, is gonna be one the RB already performed in TAR4, TAR12 or TAR15.
TAR 20 had a Switchback Fast Forward. :)
TAR20 had no Switchback Fast Forwards. It did have an idential Fast Forward task. The head shaving tasks. But Switchback tasks are the same exact task at the same exact location, according to CBS in announcements for TAR15. The ony Switchback so far in TAR is the hay bale Roadblocks in TAR6 and TAR15. This was the same exact task in the same exact location, a field in Sweden. The head shaving FF tasks in TAR5, TAR7 and TAR20 all took place in different locations. TAR5 was in Kolkata and TAR20 was in Kerala.....opposite ends of India.
The switchback task might not be a task that was origanalily a roadblock (im thinking either detour option on TAR15 that cost Maria & Tiffany the race)
Based on previous experiences with switchbacks (hay bales on TAR6 & TAR18 and shaving heads on TAR5, TAR9 & TAR20) if there's one, is gonna be one the RB already performed in TAR4, TAR12 or TAR15.
TAR 20 had a Switchback Fast Forward. :)
TAR20 had no Switchback Fast Forwards. It did have an idential Fast Forward task. The head shaving tasks. But Switchback tasks are the same exact task at the same exact location, according to CBS in announcements for TAR15. The ony Switchback so far in TAR is the hay bale Roadblocks in TAR6 and TAR15. This was the same exact task in the same exact location, a field in Sweden. The head shaving FF tasks in TAR5, TAR7 and TAR20 all took place in different locations. TAR5 was in Kolkata and TAR20 was in Kerala.....opposite ends of India.
I have to disagree with you this time, DrRox. When Phil explained what was the FF (pic below), he used this quote:
"In this Switchback, teams face one of the most unforgettables Fast Forwards in Amazing Race history."
what about the FF on TAR 4? Remember about the one team rode in a windmill? :waves:The switchback task might not be a task that was origanalily a roadblock (im thinking either detour option on TAR15 that cost Maria & Tiffany the race)
Based on previous experiences with switchbacks (hay bales on TAR6 & TAR18 and shaving heads on TAR5, TAR9 & TAR20) if there's one, is gonna be one the RB already performed in TAR4, TAR12 or TAR15.
Except the Cast Reveal press said:
Teams will travel through three continents, nine countries and cover more than 25,000 miles, where they’ll be faced with a 10-story rappel in Los Angeles, frying an egg on their heads in Indonesia, working as “rat collectors” in Bangladesh and revisiting one of the Race’s most infamous Roadblocks in the Netherlands in this season’s “Switchback.”