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The Amazing Race => The Amazing Race Discussion => Topic started by: Air on May 22, 2012, 06:01:30 AM
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I have been thinking: Like all Reality TV shows TAR have done things wrong. What do you think were the worst?
Mine are: The Route of TAR2. Seriously, it was so boring. The only country that was remotely interesting was Namibia.
Mid leg Elimination of Bilal and Sa'eed. They didn't actually get a proper pitstop. Not fair!
Eric & Lisa Elimination Starting line task: They didn't even get ONE CLUE!
Post your own!
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Begging as a non-elimination punishment, shouldn't have been done EVER.
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The TAR 14 Russian Roadblock in Novosibirsk. I think it was inappropriate and some of the racers clearly were uncomfortable with it.
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Really the only two things are the begging for money penalty (especially when it's in a third world country), and the midleg elimination in Season 10. At least Eric & Lisa knew they would be eliminated and it was their own fault for being last. Bilal & Sa'eed just got screwed by a taxi driver (How do you live in Beijing and not know what the Forbidden City is!?!?). If the midleg elimination got rid of the Chos instead, then I'd change my mind about it because it would have made the season so much better.
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No teams knew about the start line elimination until they were there.
That to me is still the most unnecessarily cruel thing TAR ever did.
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No teams knew about the start line elimination until they were there.
That to me is still the most unnecessarily cruel thing TAR ever did.
I'm just really glad that it was Eric & Lisa, because I don't think anyone else would have taken it as well as they did!
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The Hazard :lol:
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No teams knew about the start line elimination until they were there.
That to me is still the most unnecessarily cruel thing TAR ever did.
I think it was more an experiment gone wrong. Quite likely someone thought this would be awesome drama, without thinking it all the way through. If they were to make something like that work, it'd have to be like an instant NEL with the last place team getting some sort of hazard to complete.
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No teams knew about the start line elimination until they were there.
That to me is still the most unnecessarily cruel thing TAR ever did.
To me too . Packing , Unpacking... to be eliminated with 40 minutes or less
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The sunlight effect.
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Allowed reality TV crossovers.
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Allowed reality TV crossovers.
I don't think that is a big issue, as they don't overpack seasons with people like that they just put in one now and again. And in general they have been quite competitive and/or interesting to me anyway. It can also increase the audience as people will watch to see someone they know, as well as create an interesting dynamic among the racers when they are racing against a reality celeb.
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The Hazard :lol:
seriously what is up with that? i thought of it as an extra roadblock kinda thing...
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The starting line elimination.
The fact TAR has many tasks involving wearing less clothes such as...
Season 19 > Body Building detour in Belgium
Season 18 > Frog of Luck detour in China
Season 15 > Mud Volleyball detour
Season 14 > Running Roadblock in Russia
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The fact TAR has many tasks involving wearing less clothes such as...
Season 19 > Body Building detour in Belgium
Season 18 > Frog of Luck detour in China
Season 15 > Mud Volleyball detour
Season 14 > Running Roadblock in Russia
This thread is about things that shouldn't have been done, not things that should happen more frequently.
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I know! I think NONE of those tasks should have occurred. It freaks me out that TAR has created that many tasks that involve less clothing.
:stare
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I know! I think NONE of those tasks should have occurred. It freaks me out that TAR has created that many tasks that involve less clothing.
:stare
I'm not complaining. :)
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I know! I think NONE of those tasks should have occurred. It freaks me out that TAR has created that many tasks that involve less clothing.
:stare
I'm not complaining. :)
Some of us here are not as worldly wise as you.
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The insane eating tasks (cough, cough, TAR 7 Argentinian barbeque Roadblock).
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The insane eating tasks (cough, cough, TAR 7 Argentinian barbeque Roadblock).
The pizza in TAR6 :gaah:.
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I know! I think NONE of those tasks should have occurred. It freaks me out that TAR has created that many tasks that involve less clothing.
:stare
I'm not complaining. :)
Some of us here are not as worldly wise as you.
idgi
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TAR19 got off on the wrong foot with me, because I felt that they completely mismanaged how to deal with the Hazard penalty and Leg 1 in general. "Oh here, we're gonna give you a penalty that could get you eliminated. But surprise, it's a non-elimination leg!" If I was a TAR producer, here's how I would've handled the first few legs of TAR19:
Leg 1: Hazard penalty for the last team to finish the Starting Line task. Last team to arrive at the Pit Stop is eliminated. (The whole point of the Hazard was to make a team have to fight even harder to stave off elimination. Having a Leg 1 NEL completely ruined that.)
Leg 2: NEL
Leg 3: Double Elimination (The Roadblock at Borobodur was confusing enough to cause teams to be eliminated.)
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I think the single u-turn has to be considered a failed concept, every team has got eliminated which doesn't exactly supply suspense.
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Really the only two things are the begging for money penalty (especially when it's in a third world country), and the midleg elimination in Season 10. At least Eric & Lisa knew they would be eliminated and it was their own fault for being last. Bilal & Sa'eed just got screwed by a taxi driver (How do you live in Beijing and not know what the Forbidden City is!?!?). If the midleg elimination got rid of the Chos instead, then I'd change my mind about it because it would have made the season so much better.
That right there needs the Muslim test. You've gotta either like the idea or hate the idea. I can't (for example) say I hate the idea of the Speed Bump because it had a hand in knocking out Kynt and Vyxsin instead of Ronald and Christina.
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Having exclusively luck-based challenges as the starting line task. (Sure, there's always something to disguise it as an observation task, but really.)
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The Jaipur Detour which was essentially panhandle in India or 'ride these heavy bikes a fairly long way and then search through the numerous barrels for a tiny object to trade for your next clue WHY WOULDN'T YOU PANHANDLE?'. Not only am I not a fan of watching people beg for money but I'm most assuredly not a fan of the race design forcing it to be the optimal task.
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The open up a cone and you will find a gnome task in TAR 7. I nearly died watching it. One of the worst Roadblocks EVER.
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Anyway, product placement is always good.. cause it keeps the show going, but when the product placement becomes a lame task which shouldn't have been part of a Detour/Roadblock.... it is sad.
I like how they incorporated the gnome into TAR 20, where they have to slide the gnome across the ice rink to get their clue. That should be at least how it's done. Not instead dig up 50 holes and ask teams to find the random limited gnomes. Sounds really hard right? :stare
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Having Phil spend twenty seconds explaining the cultural relevance of each task. Show, don't tell.
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Having Phil spend twenty seconds explaining the cultural relevance of each task. Show, don't tell.
I learn many things in TAR through this, so I think I'd rather have him have time in discussing (but not more than 20 seconds though) :p
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How about that cookie detour in malyasia in All Stars. yes it made for some great TV of charla and mirna but reminded me of chocolate thing in S5... another terrible task
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The calling home at the finish line in Seasons 10 and 11.
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The calling home at the finish line in Seasons 10 and 11.
Why? :duno:
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Eric & Danielle.
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Eric & Danielle.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Eric & Danielle.
Good one.
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My biggies
They never should have...
Stopped ESM.
Encouraged conflict.
Taken away ES.
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My biggies
They never should have...
Stopped ESM.
Encouraged conflict.
Taken away ES.
That's why season 16 and season 20 sucked.
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I agree, Elimination Station was great.
I think TAR shouldn't cast 'wacky' and 'good TV' teams over likeable teams. I think Season 15 was the last time I actually liked more than 2 or 3 teams.
I think Phil shouldn't have changed his narration voice.
Apart from that, I don't have any complaints at all, so they must be doing most stuff right!
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Mine would be:
The starting line elimination in Season 15
The Hazard
The non-elimination penalty in seasons 5-7 (wearing nothing but the clothes on your back for the rest of the race and begging for money during the next leg? Really?)
and, of course....
THE FAMILY EDITION, the lamest season ever.
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I agree, Elimination Station was great.
I think TAR shouldn't cast 'wacky' and 'good TV' teams over likeable teams. I think Season 15 was the last time I actually liked more than 2 or 3 teams.
I think Phil shouldn't have changed his narration voice.
Apart from that, I don't have any complaints at all, so they must be doing most stuff right!
Season 17 had SO MANY LIKABLE TEAMS! :lol3:
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Tasks that require teams to wear silly, non-culturally relevant costumes (e.g. Panto cow in Kazakhstan, naked running in Novosibirsk, kangaroos in Broken Hill). There are far easier ways to elicit cheap thrills (most of which I hate anyway, but I digress).
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The insane eating tasks (cough, cough, TAR 7 Argentinian barbeque Roadblock).
The pizza in TAR6 :gaah:.
I find those great! Along with the Caviar TAR5, and the soup in TAR6 too.
I think TAR should have never left lots of legs with no self-driving. Teams have to be prepared to read maps and navigate by themselves. That is a BASIC tool for racing, I think, and there's some times when teams don't drive for legs and legs... That's not good. I want more dramma!
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bunching after a hard roadblock.
one of it is during Leg 2 (I'm not sure) of All Stars. D/K got the roadblock fast and some were left behind and they end up bunching in the airport.
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Another one, when they've put stupid stereotypical greeters to represent places instead of people who just look more normal. As a British person I was cringing at the guy in the bowler hat, or the one in armour. It's just silly.
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Another one, when they've put stupid stereotypical greeters to represent places instead of people who just look more normal. As a British person I was cringing at the guy in the bowler hat, or the one in armour. It's just silly.
While I understand why that bothers you, if they grabbed a normal looking person for each leg, none of the greeters would be memorable as they'd all look the same somewhat.
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The insane eating tasks (cough, cough, TAR 7 Argentinian barbeque Roadblock).
The pizza in TAR6 :gaah:.
I find those great! Along with the Caviar TAR5, and the soup in TAR6 too.
I think TAR should have never left lots of legs with no self-driving. Teams have to be prepared to read maps and navigate by themselves. That is a BASIC tool for racing, I think, and there's some times when teams don't drive for legs and legs... That's not good. I want more dramma!
I think the pizza was the last task on the finale leg, where teams were sent off to finish a pizza before they will receive their finish line clue.
Makes. No. Sense.
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The insane eating tasks (cough, cough, TAR 7 Argentinian barbeque Roadblock).
The pizza in TAR6 :gaah:.
I find those great! Along with the Caviar TAR5, and the soup in TAR6 too.
I think TAR should have never left lots of legs with no self-driving. Teams have to be prepared to read maps and navigate by themselves. That is a BASIC tool for racing, I think, and there's some times when teams don't drive for legs and legs... That's not good. I want more dramma!
I think the pizza was the last task on the finale leg, where teams were sent off to finish a pizza before they will receive their finish line clue.
Makes. No. Sense.
:tup:
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Tasks that require teams to wear silly, non-culturally relevant costumes (e.g. Panto cow in Kazakhstan, naked running in Novosibirsk, kangaroos in Broken Hill). There are far easier ways to elicit cheap thrills (most of which I hate anyway, but I digress).
I don't mind that, as long as it isn't done too much. And the running wasn't naked they were in their underwear I think. :D
I think TAR should have never left lots of legs with no self-driving. Teams have to be prepared to read maps and navigate by themselves. That is a BASIC tool for racing, I think, and there's some times when teams don't drive for legs and legs... That's not good. I want more dramma!
Yeh that's what I've said. I liked the German leg this year because of that. And AR19 seemed to have more self driving than AR20.
While I understand why that bothers you, if they grabbed a normal looking person for each leg, none of the greeters would be memorable as they'd all look the same somewhat.
I think people do differ quite a lot from place to place in how they look. And I don't mind them using a specific national costume sometimes [in less modern places perhaps] but I don't want them putting on an act and sounding silly.
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Tasks that require teams to wear silly, non-culturally relevant costumes (e.g. Panto cow in Kazakhstan, naked running in Novosibirsk, kangaroos in Broken Hill). There are far easier ways to elicit cheap thrills (most of which I hate anyway, but I digress).
And the worst of all them, the Condor of TAR16.
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I agree they shouldn't have had those cruel penalties after non-elimination points. Only the speedbump, or no penalty at all were okay.
They shouldn't have changed Phil's voice over.
They shouldn't have named it the "fast forward". It should have been named a "shortcut"!
I don't miss ESM. When they had the elimination station, that was a better way of showing us behind the scenes stuff.
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I agree they shouldn't have had those cruel penalties after non-elimination points. Only the speedbump, or no penalty at all were okay.
They shouldn't have changed Phil's voice over.
They shouldn't have named it the "fast forward". It should have been named a "shortcut"!
I don't miss ESM. When they had the elimination station, that was a better way of showing us behind the scenes stuff.
I agree except for putting away the penalty for NEL. It's unfair if there is no penalty.
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A few have already been mentioned but here goes.
1. Eric and Lisa's elimination - I would be fuming if I had made it onto TAR, a once in a lifetime opportunity to travel the world and see amazing places, only to be eliminated 10mins in. (On this, I hope TAR realises there cruelty and brings them back for All-Stars) (I was surprised they didnt make it onto unfinished business, they have the most unfinished business in history!)
2. Bilal and Sa'eeds elimination - Similar to above... Except this time, it was a taxi drivers fault!
3. Family Edition - Not much more needs to be added here.
4. Make seasons 12 and 13 only 11 legs - These 2 seasons had pretty good routes, some good teams, and yet they had the shortest amount of legs! Was far to short.
5. Stop venturing into regional areas - Ok, this one isnt as factual, but I feel as if TAR has stopped venturing into the lesser known places of countries, and is only concerned with seeing the big cities. I loved TAR originally because it showcased so many places I would have never heard of if I didnt watch the show. Nowadays, I feel as if there just revisiting cities, and trying to visit the most amount of countries in one season, as oppose to visiting a smaller number of countries, but seeing the lesser known side of these cities. I want more obscure locations, more unheard of mountain ranges, more picturesque, unknown locations!
6. Making TAR so fast paced - I might be getting picky, but i liked TAR in the earlier seasons where it was slow, and showed random footage, like Oswald and Danny shopping before going to the task! Nowadays its all run run run, task task task, pit stop pit stop pit stop! I like seeing what happens along the way
7. Schedule almost all legs for sun/day - Getting really picky but i loved TAR in the earlier seasons, where there were loads of legs at night, challenges at random times and where it rained/snowed a lot! Now it seems that whenever there is a potential night leg, teams pick a number and sleep the night or they wait for dawn. Let there be night legs!
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The ff in season where Nick and Donald got tatoos.
Yuck, at least hair grows back, tatoos cost to remove.
It was funny that old sailor Don was more hesitant to get a tat than Nick.
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1. Brendon and Rachel
2. Season 19's non-elimination order (3 in the first 6 legs!)
3. AND MOST OF ALL.... how they got rid of 12/36 hour pit stops! I like seeing what time teams check in. They dont even have them anymore. It seems like CHEATING to bunch up all the teams.
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The rappel roadblock in Turin, Italy in Season 20.
The double elimination in Season 19.
The Family Edition. Worst.
The casting of too many teams from Season 14 during the Unfinished Business.
The horrible edit in Season 20.
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Staying stuck in big cities for 2 consecutive legs *cough* 13, instead of venturing to other parts of the country.
The culturally unchallenging route of 7.
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The Indian legs of 20 felt super slow. Like it was more of a sightseeing trip, given the fact that they chose to stay in the same city for 2 legs.
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I loved the Indian legs in TAR 20 though.. some really good tasks. I just disliked how TAR 20 is designed in such a way that the team who landed on a NEL on the previous leg hardly had ANY chance of catching up!
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I loved the Indian legs in TAR 20 though.. some really good tasks. I just disliked how TAR 20 is designed in such a way that the team who landed on a NEL on the previous leg hardly had ANY chance of catching up!
It wasnt the design that was the flawed, it was that nary and jamie and bopper and mark feel so far behind in the previous legs.
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It was designed in a way that there wasn't any HoO to bunch the teams and give the teams in last place a chance or glimpse of catching up. :res:
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Personally, I hate NELs followed by non-bunching. Seriously, what's the point? I know that doesn't mean that the team who's last again due to no bunching does not deserve to get eliminated. I just hope that with NELs planned, at least producers give them a chance to equal things out and have a fair shot going into the next leg, when they already have a penalty which they will need to complete.
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Personally, I hate NELs followed by non-bunching. Seriously, what's the point? I know that doesn't mean that the team who's last again due to no bunching does not deserve to get eliminated. I just hope that with NELs planned, at least producers give them a chance to equal things out and have a fair shot going into the next leg, when they already have a penalty which they will need to complete.
there were ways for the teams to catch up.
leg 8: 2 u-turn (that has always eliminated a team)
leg 10: fast forward, bad taxi drivers
The NEL teams of those legs fell REDICULOUSLY behind all the other teams, farther than ANY TAR EMPLOYEE would have expected. Especially since leg 7 was such a easy leg :lol3:.
It wasn't the race's fault that they couldn't catch up, it was the racers' themselves.
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:res: Some people just don't understand.
IF Nary and Jaime had been U-TURN, they won't have a chance to catch up and they will definitely be eliminated. You call that good planning? They were bound to arrive at the U-TURN board last anyway and have no say as to who gets U-TURNed.
In Mark and Bopper's leg, the Fast Forward wouldn't have gone to them but Brendon and Rachel had it not been a head shaving task. There was just no way they could have reached the FF first before other teams to ensure they get the FF and win the leg. If the leg was designed in such a way that the first team from the previous leg has a say as to whether or not to go for the FF (I can assure you that Art and JJ would go for the FF if they haven't done it!!), then it is not a well-planned leg.
Yes, those teams fell "REDICULOUSLY" behind. BUT, a non-bunching leg following a NEL is what I meant here as a badly planned leg. There was NO WAY these teams could have caught up unless things GO THEIR WAY, for example hoping for Vanessa and Ralph to get U-TURN (which they did) and pray that they get hopelessly lost in a cab. If they plan for a race for random things like this to happen as the only way the last place team could catch up, then it is a "REDICULOUSLY" badly planned leg. Had Nary and Jaime had a chance to beat Vanessa and Ralph, they will be a cruise to the F4, where Brendon and Rachel might be eliminated in 4th in Japan, and we JUST MIGHT be getting an exciting three-way finish to the finishing line.
#justsaying
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I think the pizza was the last task on the finale leg, where teams were sent off to finish a pizza before they will receive their finish line clue.
Makes. No. Sense.
Chicago is famous for the deep dish pizza. Of course it makes sense that they do it there...
My votes go to the Hazard in S15, the double-elimination (would've prevented the overratedness that occur) in S19, and the mid-leg pitstop in S10.
Oh, and I hope they don't bring the Salvage Pass to the US version. Keep it in TARAus only pl0x, TPTB.
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I think the pizza was the last task on the finale leg, where teams were sent off to finish a pizza before they will receive their finish line clue.
Makes. No. Sense.
Chicago is famous for the deep dish pizza. Of course it makes sense that they do it there...
My votes go to the Hazard in S15, the double-elimination (would've prevented the overratedness that occur) in S19, and the mid-leg pitstop in S10.
Oh, and I hope they don't bring the Salvage Pass to the US version. Keep it in TARAus only pl0x, TPTB.
Better idea: let's not keep it at all.
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I think the pizza was the last task on the finale leg, where teams were sent off to finish a pizza before they will receive their finish line clue.
Makes. No. Sense.
Chicago is famous for the deep dish pizza. Of course it makes sense that they do it there...
Not on the last leg, as a last task, without even a memory kind of challenge. TAR 7 and TAR 6 had one of the most "boring" finales without any sort of a proper task. Of course TAR 7's one was made controversial by the showdown between U/J and Romber... but TAR 6's one was just... BOO. Especially when Freddy and Kendra won. :gaah:
I actually like the Salvation Pass idea, but I just wished they had a better either/or option for the choices. For example, choose to save the last team, OR choose to have an auto non-elimination protection just for the next leg of the race. Or if they choose to save the team, two teams will be eliminated next leg, and if they choose not to save, they will get maybe 200 more USD (or a sum of money) to use on the race? I mean, we have always seen teams running out of money so this might actually be a variable incentive.. as compared to starting an hour earlier... if you get what I mean.
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I think the pizza was the last task on the finale leg, where teams were sent off to finish a pizza before they will receive their finish line clue.
Makes. No. Sense.
Chicago is famous for the deep dish pizza. Of course it makes sense that they do it there...
Not on the last leg, as a last task, without even a memory kind of challenge. TAR 7 and TAR 6 had one of the most "boring" finales without any sort of a proper task. Of course TAR 7's one was made controversial by the showdown between U/J and Romber... but TAR 6's one was just... BOO. Especially when Freddy and Kendra won. :gaah:
I actually like the Salvation Pass idea, but I just wished they had a better either/or option for the choices. For example, choose to save the last team, OR choose to have an auto non-elimination protection just for the next leg of the race. Or if they choose to save the team, two teams will be eliminated next leg, and if they choose not to save, they will get maybe 200 more USD (or a sum of money) to use on the race? I mean, we have always seen teams running out of money so this might actually be a variable incentive.. as compared to starting an hour earlier... if you get what I mean.
I guess that's better. Right now it's just "Ooh! A 30 minute headstart when there's more than likely going to be an equalizer!"
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I think the pizza was the last task on the finale leg, where teams were sent off to finish a pizza before they will receive their finish line clue.
Makes. No. Sense.
Chicago is famous for the deep dish pizza. Of course it makes sense that they do it there...
My votes go to the Hazard in S15, the double-elimination (would've prevented the overratedness that occur) in S19, and the mid-leg pitstop in S10.
Oh, and I hope they don't bring the Salvage Pass to the US version. Keep it in TARAus only pl0x, TPTB.
I love Chicago a lot and that deep dish pizza final task honestly was very bland and uninteresting. I was not impressed when season 6 did not include the Willis (formerly Sears) Tower. :groan:
I would have been satisfied if they featured a baseball related challenge due to the Chicago Cubs' history in baseball. Even better, since Chicago is called "The Windy City", let the final task become a wind challenge where they have to walk shoeless into a horizontal wind tunnel with slippery floors and grab their final clue while the giant fan blades makes wind towards them at a whopping 60 mph. :lol3: (Lake Michigan humor)
-From a Chicago local
(Not a wishlist, just stating my opinion and what they could have done better on season 6.) :tup:
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Apperantily the Salvage Pass has changed (on TARP). Now you can use it in any leg to give yourself a 1/2 an hour credit or save the bottem placing team.
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In TARP, the teams used the Salvage Pass 30 minutes before the HOO in Vigan. It opens at 830 am so the first team can enter at 8am. Well it helped them but got ****ed up by an Intersection. :(
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Bad race ideas:
Season 1: Even though I loved the Joe & Bill leg behind issue in the race, the Alaskan tapestry and trampoline task was bad.
Season 5: United Arab Emirates- did not really enjoy that Dubai leg
Season 6: Deep dish pizza final task
Season 7: Argentinian beef RB in leg 3
Family edition: The only team I found uniquely genuine were the Gaghans and Blacks. :hearts: cute kids though :hearts:
Season 15: Eric & Lisa and Maria & Tiffany elimination
Season 17: Bangladesh- bad cultural representation
Season 19: Double elimination
Season 20: Casting BBWinner, Rachel Reilly (wannabe Flo)
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Bad race ideas:
Season 7: Argentinian beef RB in leg 3
Thats my favorite roadblock of ALL TIME!!! :gaah:
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Bad race ideas:
Season 20: Casting BBWinner, Rachel Reilly (wannabe Flo)
Is this a joke she saved many episodes of the season due to legs being crap.
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Bad race ideas:
Season 7: Argentinian beef RB in leg 3
Once again, to put things clear about this RB:
1st episode: TAR7 infamous 4kg beef roadblock @ AXN
About the "infamous" 4kg of beef RB in Mendoza, I'm gonna tell something: they shouldn't start eating the meat. They should start eating the other stuff, and in the end the meat. This is how we made it (and that includes the salads).
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Bad race ideas:
Season 20: Casting BBWinner, Rachel Reilly (wannabe Flo)
Is this a joke she saved many episodes of the season due to legs being crap.
Really? You found the legs to be "crap"? I actually enjoyed the Season 20 legs. (Though the 2nd Argentina leg I gotta admit was "crap." :lol:)
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All of you are hating on Rachel for no reason. Without her there would have been no tension btwn the teams which means no drama. I think the drama definitely helped S20 become one of the best editions of the race so far.
I hated Rachel (worst contestant ever!). I just wanted to kill her every time I saw her face in my TV. Thank goodness all the other teams saved the season.
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All of you are hating on Rachel for no reason. Without her there would have been no tension btwn the teams which means no drama. I think the drama definitely helped S20 become one of the best editions of the race so far.
I hated Rachel (best contestant ever!). I just wanted to kill her every time I saw her face in my TV. Thank goodness all the other teams saved the season.
Um Leg 2 was poor in design, without her struggling at the roadblock you would have been yawning.
Without her on Leg 4 it would have been a boring leg since everyone else did the detour fine.
Leg 7 would have been the worst in history if it wasn't for Rachel. The Jumping and other tasks were done wayy to fast.
The U-Turn might of prevented Leg 8 from following but it was still boring without the uturn drama.
She saved a lot of the sucky TAR20 legs and made it a top 5 season for Phil. Without it it would have followed TAR19 into boring team land.
If you hate her well you can go grab a lifevest named jealousy.
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I agree with Leafsfan in saying that Rachel helped the season by bringing in more drama, so I think it was a plus.
Side comment, I think Season 20 had 4 good legs: 3 (Paraguay), 5 (Germany), 9 and 10 (India)
So it wasn't crap, but it wasn't phenomenal either.
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I agree with Leafsfan in saying that Rachel helped the season by bringing in more drama, so I think it was a plus.
Side comment, I think Season 20 had 4 good legs: 3 (Paraguay), 5 (Germany), 9 and 10 (India)
So it wasn't crap, but it wasn't phenomenal either.
I thought Azerbaijan was pretty cool from the visit to Temple Ateshgah (Temple of Fire) and the Apple or Oil Detour. I've always wanted to go there to visit Baku's downtown and festivals there.
I didn't like it when Rachel Reilly had to... in Ragan Fox's words, "crybernate" on the race. Big Brother, I can see why emotions can change being trapped in a giant fishbowl of strategy, but racing is NOT a new medium, I dislike it when half of the teams have to hate each other for lying and talking bad about others like the huge tensions from seasons 20, 16, all-stars, and especially season 5, but route-wise made up for it. Transportation issues, I understand, but for socialization reasons, not much of a big fan.
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The other day I wanted to watch Season 20's finale because I liked it so much. I made it 10 minutes before her voice and whining was too much. 20 being a good season is irrelevant to her being there, otherwise Season 3? Season 5? Season 7? They're all terrible because she's not in them.
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Rachel helped TAR20 be better. I'll just let you drink your haterade.
Now, TAR shouldn't have just done that ice cream eating speed bump.
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Rachel helped TAR20 be better. I'll just let you drink your haterade.
Now, TAR shouldn't have just done that ice cream eating speed bump.
yes rachel did help TAR 20 to be better in terms of casting thats about it. and y do you say that about the speed bump? i think it was perfectly located, didnt take up to much time to complete but just enough in order to make it significant
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Bad race ideas:
Season 7: Argentinian beef RB in leg 3
I think the amount of meat is too much. It should be reduced so that teams can finish it faster.
Another thing TAR should not have done is removing the cheesy head turn from the intro song. Oh, I miss it when teams was doing cheesy headturn (Teri & Ian, Kynt & Vyxin) or trying to give mean looks (Cyndi & Russell, Susan & Patrick). Ohohohoho~
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Anything from the current season should be discussed only in the TAR 21 threads, thanks! Comments moved to show discussion.
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Have an "Automatic U-turn" penalty in the first leg of TAR 18. :groan:
I was so excited that Amanda & Kris had a second chance and then horrified that it went so badly. :'(
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Speed Bump tasks shouldn't be of wildly differing levels of difficulty. Eating food vs. solving a puzzle
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Speed Bump tasks shouldn't be of wildly differing levels of difficulty. Eating food vs. solving a puzzle
IKR. Or untangling ropes. -_- Or making + serving noodles in Vietnam. Or running across firecrackers. TAR 20 had fair Speedbumps that were interesting and doesn't seem ridiculously easy.
TAR 19 had washing elephants + solving puzzle which was hard.. as compared to Bill and Cathi's untangling ropes.
TAR 18's Speedbump was just lame and too easy. (Gary and Mallory, only speedbump of the season)
TAR 17: Sitting on ice chair VS cleaning Self-Propelled Howitzers... wth?
TAR 16: Had varying difficulty of SB too, smelly tea VS building trench VS throwing coins for good luck ritual...
There's just so many differing levels of difficulty and I just feel that if the task is generally lame, they should not allow it..
For example, rather than making Josh and Brent EAT TURKISH ICE CREAM, they can make them learn and serve the ICE CREAM to 5 to 10 people. That would make the task so much more interesting!
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Speed Bumbs are a freacking bad penalty!!!! Marked for Elimination is way better.
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Speed Bumbs are a freacking bad penalty!!!! Marked for Elimination is way better.
I disagree, It was way to difficult of a penalty. I think speedbump is the fairest penalty the race has had.
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After seeing how season 19 went (just watched on iPhone from iTunes), the route was pretty mixed. I completely forgot about the Casco Viejo, Panama and Brussells, Belgium leg after the finale for a moment even with the "create a map" memory task. The only tasks I found interesting were decorating waffles Detour option and the skyscraper tightrope Roadblock for those legs. Other than that, the rest were pretty decent. My favorite tasks would be the spelunking in Yogyakarta and the Legoland puzzle task in Denmark.
Worst was with the least amount of clothing possible... Bodybuilding pose off
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My favourite speedbump was painting the elephant's trunk in Season 14.
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From the recent seasons:
-Visiting no new country in season 21.
-That awful rappelling roadblock in Turin, season 20.
-Going to Osaka in season 20. I wish they stayed in Hiroshima for the full leg.
-Double Elimination in season 19.
-The second Bangkok leg in season 19, although it was good for a last minute change, I wished they went to a different country or part of Thailand instead.
-Hazard in season 19, pointless that's it.
-Doing China and India legs in season 18.
-Not casting a single team from season 13 in the unfinished business.
-The redundant leg prizes in Caribbean with all the boring spas and those stuffs.
-Using touch screens instead of stickers for u-turns. I kind of like it when teams take time to peel them for no reason. lol :lol:
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Speed Bump tasks shouldn't be of wildly differing levels of difficulty. Eating food vs. solving a puzzle
TAR 19 had washing elephants + solving puzzle which was hard.. as compared to Bill and Cathi's untangling ropes.
I just want to point out that slide puzzles can easily be solved in less than a minute if you know what you're doing. Way less time than untangling ropes.
But I do think MFE is a much better penalty, they just need to design the leg with it in mind.
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Less than a minute? Hell no.
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Speed Bump tasks shouldn't be of wildly differing levels of difficulty. Eating food vs. solving a puzzle
IKR. Or untangling ropes. -_- Or making + serving noodles in Vietnam. Or running across firecrackers. TAR 20 had fair Speedbumps that were interesting and doesn't seem ridiculously easy.
TAR 19 had washing elephants + solving puzzle which was hard.. as compared to Bill and Cathi's untangling ropes.
TAR 18's Speedbump was just lame and too easy. (Gary and Mallory, only speedbump of the season)
TAR 17: Sitting on ice chair VS cleaning Self-Propelled Howitzers... wth?
TAR 16: Had varying difficulty of SB too, smelly tea VS building trench VS throwing coins for good luck ritual...
There's just so many differing levels of difficulty and I just feel that if the task is generally lame, they should not allow it..
For example, rather than making Josh and Brent EAT TURKISH ICE CREAM, they can make them learn and serve the ICE CREAM to 5 to 10 people. That would make the task so much more interesting!
I wish. The first time I attempted to make Turkish ice cream, it turned out all doughy (supposed to be marshmallowy). That was my only hope of learning what I did wrong in generally the ingredients and time. I was disappointed when they only ate the ice cream. :(