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Archive => RFF Archived Boards => Amazing Race 21 Spoilers Archive => Topic started by: Dom on May 19, 2012, 01:50:34 AM
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Okay so with TAR 21 confirmed and next to hit our screens, what do you guys think will happen? This is the thread to post all your predictions about the race, so you can look back and go 'I told you so!'
Personally I think we're going to see long overdue visits to Spain, New Zealand and Malta and perhaps even a new country in Africa like Gambia!
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YAY! I'm so glad you made this thread :)
LOCATIONS
- a FOUR continent race, which i think will go
*North America-Europe-Africa-Asia-North America (my best guess is that THIS will be the route of TAR21)
OR
*North America-Oceania-Asia-Europe-Central America/North America
- starting line in LA area
- the first stop will either be New Zealand OR Europe
- at least ONE leg in China
- at least TWO legs in a Mediterranean nation(s) (e.g. Portugal, Spain, Malta, Italy, Greece, Turkey)
- if the race goes to Africa, my best bet is Morocco
- first time visit to a Yugoslavian nation (Serbia OR Slovenia)
- first time visit to Laos
- a NEW final city
- in total at least THREE NEW COUNTRIES
- the countries i have strong feeling this race will visit are Serbia, Laos and China
TEAMS
- at least TWO generational teams (i.e. parent/child, grandparent/grandchild)
- at least one African-American team
- THREE FF teams
- ONE recruited team
- at least TWO mactor teams
- a beauty queen contestant
what does everyone else think???
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Nordic Area.
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What I think could happen:
Leg 1: USA (New York) - Spain (Madrid)
Leg 2: Spain (Andulusia)
Leg 3: Spain - Morocco (Tangier)
Leg 4: Morocco - France - Monaco (Monte Carlo, Nice)
Leg 5: Monaco - France - Turkey (Istanbul)
Leg 6: Turkey (Cappadocia)
Leg 7: Turkey - China (Chengdu)
Leg 8: China - Nepal (Kathmandu)
Leg 9: Nepal (Mount Everest region)
Leg 10: Nepal - New Zealand (Christchurch)
Leg 11: New Zealand - Canada (Vancouver)
Leg 12: Canada - USA (Salt Lake City)
Agreed with supah3ro
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It's time for them to go back to China, I think northern China or Russia. I also don't expect to see South America again. I predict another route where they go to the far east first and work around to a U.S. east coast finale.
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I don't think they will have a recruited team due to there not being a recent show finish to draw from. I ran across this article: http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/the_amazing_race_13/2008_Dec_04_casting_former_survivors While the article is a bit dated, it seems very unlikely that you'd have the 'Russell Hantz/Evil Dick' teamup that keeps hitting twitter.
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Europe will be the first destination. Spain or France will be the first country. And a first time visit to a former Soviet state.
China will be visited, Southern China (Sichuan/Chongqing/Guangdong/Hainan).
Australia (anywhere other than Sydney) or New Zealand will be the last country visited.
And finally, a M/M team winner.
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You can see my analysis on this subject in the AR21 Transportation thread (although I do state that the analysis is more general than just for AR21). I conclude that if a race is heading west out of LAX, a potential first destination is Melbourne. If a race is heading east out of LAX a potential first destination is London.
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Maybe, Poland? :>
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Maybe, Poland? :>
Unlikely, this June (8/6 to 1/7), Poland and Ukraine co-host the Euro 2012 (European Football Cup), so I think that WP will avoid these countries, as well as London, because of the Olympics.
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Just in case any of you reading spoilers slip up along the way...am going to move this to spoilerland. :lol:
Wishlists should still go in that thread, PREDICTIONS are welcome here.
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If the race began on the West Coast (not LA area) I would think the route would either go to Central America or Asia/Oceania on the first leg. My predictions are:
Mexico (Cancun, Tlaxcala, Puebla, Queretaro, La Paz)
Costa Rica (San Jose, Liberia)
Guatemala (Tikal/Flores)
Belize
Nicaragua (Managua, Granada, Lake Nicaragua)
China (Hainan Island, Guangzhou, Hong Kong, Harbin, Macau)
South Korea (Seoul or Busan)
Philippines (Manila, Palawan, Laoag City)
New Zealand (Auckland, Wellington, South Island)
Australia (Melbourne or Canberra)
(For East Coast, probally Europe)
Portugal (Lisbon)
Spain (Madrid or Valencia)
France (French Riveria, Montpelier, Lyon, Toulouse)
Ireland (Dublin/County Cork)
Iceland (Reykjavik)
Norway (Tromso, Trondheim, Bergen)
Scotland (Edinburgh or Loch Ness Region)
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I hate to say this, but I doubt this race will go to Australia/New Zealand this season, I'm positive WRP are saving Australia/New Zealand for TAR22
New Zealand and Australia are absolutely beautiful all year round, but the most ideal time to visit them is summer, and right now, its close to winter here
Also I doubt South America will be visited in TAR21, we just had 3 legs there in TAR20, and its close to winter there too which is not the ideal time to visit
so by ruling out those areas, I think we will likely have a TAR17 route OR they could make it awesome and have a TAR3 route, with Central America first THEN onto Europe :)
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Also, despite the fact that Mexico, Israel, Philippines, and Colombia are on the State Dept Travel Warning list. Only these certain areas are dangerous.
Mexico (Mainly Northern Mexico and Acapulco)
Israel (The area around the Gaza Strip)
Philippines (Mindinao/Southern Philippines)
Colombia (The very rural areas outside the major cities)
Just because these places are listed as dangerous, just consider the safest areas that could be prudential for the race to visit.
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I think northern China may be visited this season,I always want them to visit Shaolin Temple...Xi'An maybe visited again...
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MELBOURNE!!!
and,
NZ!!!
don't forget
THE FREAKING MEDITTERENEAN (GREECE)
Sorry, I have really strong views.
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Europe will be the first destination. Spain or France will be the first country. And a first time visit to a former Soviet state.
China will be visited, Southern China (Sichuan/Chongqing/Guangdong/Hainan).
Australia (anywhere other than Sydney) or New Zealand will be the last country visited.
And finally, a M/M team winner.
First time to a Soviet state? What about Estonia, Lithuania, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan?
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Europe will be the first destination. Spain or France will be the first country. And a first time visit to a former Soviet state.
France? Again? I don't think so. I think New Zealand is the first destination :)
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France hasn't been used since TAR16, and their are many places they haven't been to. My pick would be a Nice/Monaco first leg.
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Europe will be the first destination. Spain or France will be the first country. And a first time visit to a former Soviet state.
France? Again? I don't think so. I think New Zealand is the first destination :)
this time of the year is not the best time to visit New Zealand (because its absolutely freezing), the most ideal time is Nov/Dec/Jan/Feb (when it is absolutely beautiful), and I imagine they will go their during TAR22 instead of TAR21
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I was in Auckland and Rotorua, New Zealand last July. Temperatures in evenings did drop to 0 degrees Celsius in Rotorua and about 5 degrees Celsius in Auckland but were still quite pleasant. It is on the South Island that New Zealand temperatures routinely go below 0 degrees Celsius. The Amazing Race could have done even the South Island in the winter, although I certainly agree that its summers are much more pleasant.
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Also I doubt South America will be visited in TAR21, we just had 3 legs there in TAR20, and its close to winter there too which is not the ideal time to visit
Not going into logistical side or even assuming it might happen, but it depends on what part of South America, they'd like to reach. Ecuador (and by extent Galapagos Island used as finish line in TAR:LA2 if I'm remembering that correctly) for example is so close to the equator line that they don't really have seasonal changes. The same could be applied to most of the countries on the northern part of the South America.
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Also I doubt South America will be visited in TAR21, we just had 3 legs there in TAR20, and its close to winter there too which is not the ideal time to visit
Not going into logistical side or even assuming it might happen, but it depends on what part of South America, they'd like to reach. Ecuador (and by extent Galapagos Island used as finish line in TAR:LA2 if I'm remembering that correctly) for example is so close to the equator line that they don't really have seasonal changes. The same could be applied to most of the countries on the northern part of the South America.
I don't see it that way. Brazil is a subtropical country even in winter. Argentina's northern half (down to about Mendoza) has surprisingly mild winter temperatures. Chile well below Santiago has the same due to the effect of the Pacific Ocean.
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Definitely Mexico deserves a second visit. If WRP loves bringing Elimination Station down here, why not bring the race back here again? 37 million Americans vacation here every year, why not bring down 24 more for a couple of days.
Most people don't realize how big Mexico is. It is in the world's biggest 15 with 3/4 of a million square miles and more than half of the country lies at least 500 miles away from the areas under the US "travel warning".
It seems silly to me not to visit a country with almost 50 major international airports which more than half are served by US airlines, leaded by United.
As In any other country in the world there are areas which remain "off reasonable limits" and there are many examples from all over the world, including London, Moscow, Los Angeles, Mumbai, Buenos Aires and New York.
I hope there are some intelligent people in WRP who decide to go for an Aztec, Mixtec, Zapotec, Olmec, Toltec or Mayan adventure and not only bring Elimination Station down here like if we were just a dump.
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Definitely Mexico deserves a second visit. If WRP loves bringing Elimination Station down here, why not bring the race back here again? 37 million Americans vacation here every year, why not bring down 24 more for a couple of days.
Most people don't realize how big Mexico is. It is in the world's biggest 15 with 3/4 of a million square miles and more than half of the country lies at least 500 miles away from the areas under the US "travel warning".
It seems silly to me not to visit a country with almost 50 major international airports which more than half are served by US airlines, leaded by United.
As In any other country in the world there are areas which remain "off reasonable limits" and there are many examples from all over the world, including London, Moscow, Los Angeles, Mumbai, Buenos Aires and New York.
I hope there are some intelligent people in WRP who decide to go for an Aztec, Mixtec, Zapotec, Olmec, Toltec or Mayan adventure and not only bring Elimination Station down here like if we were just a dump.
I know. The travel warning is mostly in the north around here.
There is still a LOT of other places they can visit, and it's almost summer. They won't have to worry about cold temperatures.
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Predictions:
Leg 1: US-France (Toulouse, Marseille) OR US-Spain (Madrid, Meditterenean coast)
Leg 2: France- Luxembourg OR Spain- Balearic Islands
Leg 3: France to Sicily, Tunisia or a Greek Island (Crete, Santorini, Rhodes, Kos, Corfu) OR Spain to E. Europe
Leg 4: Stay in Sicily, Tunisia or a Greek Island
Leg 5: Sicily, Tunisia or a Greek Island to Latvia
Leg 6: Latvia- Abu Dhabi
Leg 7: Abu Dhabi-Africa
Leg 8: Africa
Leg 9: Africa- Vietnam
Leg 10: Vietnam-Laos
Leg 11: Laos-China (Kunming, Nanjing, Dalian etc)
Leg 12: China-US
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I really hope that they go westward this season, and have Cape Town last before they go to USA.
I also think that Madrid is up this time, can`t believe that they only have done Barcelona there as a regular leg in season 10.
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Someone's already posted this, and this isn't even a huge prediction to begin with.
Teams are probably going to fly out of LAX.
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What I predict: Strong f/f teams. :yess:
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My prediction:
This will only be a 3 continent race (North America, Europe, Asia) because...
They just visited 3 legs in South America
They have been to Africa in each of the past two seasons and 4 of the past 5.
RFFers predict that WRP is saving Oceania for TAR22 (It's warmer then)
I predict that there will be another North American country besides USA. I know everyone wants to see Canada or Mexico.
Spain will be revisited.
China will be revisited.
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Mexico is growing more dangerous by the day. There are travel warnings and constant bad reports of the drug cartels. I doubt they will risk a trip to that country.
And if you remember what happened to TAROz 2 in Canada it seems unlikely as well :lol:
I agree on the possibility of a 3 continent race for the reasons you said. And we will definitely see China again.
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I predict that we'll be seeing Spain, Finland and China, and maybe a Central Asian country.
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My prediction:
This will only be a 3 continent race (North America, Europe, Asia) because...
They just visited 3 legs in South America
They have been to Africa in each of the past two seasons and 4 of the past 5.
RFFers predict that WRP is saving Oceania for TAR22 (It's warmer then)
I predict that there will be another North American country besides USA. I know everyone wants to see Canada or Mexico.
Spain will be revisited.
China will be revisited.
Jimmer25,
I like your logic on why South America and Africa will not be included. However, I differ on Oceania (Australia and/or New Zealand) because I do not think winter is harsh enough to keep World Race Productions from visiting in AR21.
I visited Sydney, Auckland and Rotorua last July. The high temperatures in the Sydney area were about 70 degrees F. The high temperatures in New Zealand were low 60s for the high. For the low in Rotorua it got down to 41 degrees in the evening.
Only on the South Island of New Zealand and Tasmania does it apparently get really cold.
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TAR has only visited Oceania once during April to July which was the New Zealand leg in Season 13.
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Me thinks more Olympic/Sport Cities, like Bejijing, Doha, Vancouver, and maybe a revisit to Hungary.
My prediction
First Leg in Vancouver
then to Australia -> Asia -> Europe -> USA.
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Me thinks more Olympic/Sport Cities, like Bejijing, Doha, Vancouver, and maybe a revisit to Hungary.
My prediction
First Leg in Vancouver
then to Australia -> Asia -> Europe -> USA.
Doha was not been an Olympic host and likely never will.
thx
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Qatar is hosting the FIFA World Cup in 2022
Also, the Sync or Swim detour in Beijing occurred after the Summer Olympics, so I anticipate London in TAR22.
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I think London will be visited in TAR22 after the Summer Olympics because the Beijing Sync or Swim detour also occurred after its respective Olympics. So, I anticipate London/England can be ruled out.
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Qatar is hosting the FIFA World Cup in 2022
Also, the Sync or Swim detour in Beijing occurred after the Summer Olympics, so I anticipate London in TAR22.
Bertram has always been fond of Olympic locations. I wouldn't be surprised at London either.
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Qatar is hosting the FIFA World Cup in 2022
Also, the Sync or Swim detour in Beijing occurred after the Summer Olympics, so I anticipate London in TAR22.
Qatar also hosted the Asian Games in 2006 which is an olympic-like sporting event.
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I think these countries are due for a revisit (after two seasons of Africa they might skip it this season)
-North America-
Mexico (despite Travel Warnings, there are safe places like Cancun)
Canada (Vancouver or Montreal)
Costa Rica (Panama was revisted, why not Costa Rica)
-South America-
Brazil (They need to visit the inland cities like Manaus, Brasilia, or Belo Horizonte)
Peru (They been to Cusco on TAR7 but failed to visit Machu Pichu, which was nearby)
Bolivia (Lake Titicaca or Santa Cruz)
-Europe-
Iceland (Since TAR6 I like to see a leg in the capital city of Reykjavik)
Scotland (Loch Ness or Edinburgh)
France (French Riviera cities of Nice/Cannes or Lyon)
Spain (Madrid or Valencia)
Portugal (Lisbon again)
Greece (despite the economic crisis there, the Greek Islands like Crete, Santorini, or Paro)
Finland (a whole leg with a pit stop in Helsinki or Finnish Lapland)
Turkey (Izmir or Anatyla)
-Asia-
China (Hainan Island, Guangzhou, Macau, Xian, or Sichuan)
Philippines (The safety of Palawan Province or Laoag City)
Indonesia (A leg in Jakarta or Bali)
Thailand (Enough of Bangkok and Phuket, how about some Chiang Mai and the north)
Vietnam (Central Vietnam since TAR3)
Russia/Siberia (Irkutsk/Lake Baikal or Vladivostok)
Malaysia (Kota Kinabalu or Kuching)
-Oceania-
New Zealand (Wellington or Queenstown)
Australia (The true Outback like Alice Springs, Ayers Rock, or return to Coober Pedy)
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Qatar is hosting the FIFA World Cup in 2022
Also, the Sync or Swim detour in Beijing occurred after the Summer Olympics, so I anticipate London in TAR22.
Bertram has always been fond of Olympic locations. I wouldn't be surprised at London either.
Indeed he is. They visited Greece in season 9 after the Olympics. And they had Olympic themed sports in one side of the detour. So UK will probably be visited in TAR22.
I think Africa will be visited. Northern Africa.
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TAR has only visited Oceania once during April to July which was the New Zealand leg in Season 13.
Jimmer25,
I will take your word for it without checking. However I think there's some relevant information here:
4 visits to Australia in 20 seasons - 2-Sydney, Adelaide, 4-Brisbane, Mooloolaba, Cairns, 9-Perth, Freemantle, Darwin, 18-Sydney, Broken Hill
Note that only Adelaide would pose the smallest risk of winter temperatures of all those places.
3 visits to New Zealand - 2-Auckland, Queenstown, 5-Auckland, Rotorua, 13-Auckland, Tauranga
Note that only Queenstown would pose a significant risk of winter temperatures
So, why not Australia and/or new Zealand? The fact that World Race Productions has according to your data only done the above twice in winter should be no impediment.
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Me thinks more Olympic/Sport Cities, like Bejijing, Doha, Vancouver, and maybe a revisit to Hungary.
My prediction
First Leg in Vancouver
then to Australia -> Asia -> Europe -> USA.
Vancouver please. :colors
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I suspect North Africa is out for another season or two until the political situation there fully stabilizes. TAR's typically been far more conservative about that kind of thing than No Reservations and the like. (Which isn't necessarily a bad policy what with the NR crew getting evacuated by US Marines at one point when they found themselves effectively in a war zone.)
Close by, how about Malta or Cyprus? Both relatively safe and would seem fresh for this version of the show.
It might be good to see a return to Sri Lanka since the troubles there seem to have finally stabilized. I also wouldn't mind to see some island-hopping in Oceana. Plan it early enough in the game where you can sync up flights effectively, and you could do some sort of Tahiti-Fiji-Samoa route before exiting through Australia or New Zealand.
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Mexico is growing more dangerous by the day. There are travel warnings and constant bad reports of the drug cartels. I doubt they will risk a trip to that country.
And if you remember what happened to TAROz 2 in Canada it seems unlikely as well :lol:
I agree on the possibility of a 3 continent race for the reasons you said. And we will definitely see China again.
What happened? I didn't know about RFF then.
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Mexico is growing more dangerous by the day. There are travel warnings and constant bad reports of the drug cartels. I doubt they will risk a trip to that country.
And if you remember what happened to TAROz 2 in Canada it seems unlikely as well :lol:
I agree on the possibility of a 3 continent race for the reasons you said. And we will definitely see China again.
What happened? I didn't know about RFF then.
The first leg in Vancouver was a rather chaotic mess. The fact that they were filming Tar Australia that day was plastered all over the front page of the biggest Vancouver newspaper. There were numerous sightings and from what we could tell, at least one site was abandoned because of crowds of people in the area. The public also spoiled the location of the next leg in Banff by taking pictures of the signup board for bus rides there and posting it online. Because they traveled by bus, that next leg was over 24 hours later and could have been chaotic as well. There were a lot of sightings in the Banff area as well, but I think it was less of a headache because the fact they were in Banff wasn't as publicly announced. We sat on the information about banff until after the leg was run.
By the way, as TAR Australia 2 is just about to start airing, those legs haven't been shown yet.
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I predict in no certain order:
(DEPART) Washington DC
Ireland
Denmark
Spain
Poland (Krakow)
Turkey
(northern) China (Beijing or Shanghai)
Laos/Vietnam
Philippines (guessing Luzon, specifically Ilocos Norte)
ARRIVE San Francisco
I'll even make a bold prediction of where they'll go in SF - Portrero Hill (find the most crookedest street - na uh - not Lombard), a task around the SF Zoo, and then final run somewhere in the Presidio.
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I predict in no certain order:
(DEPART) Washington DC
Ireland
Denmark
Spain
Poland (Krakow)
Turkey
(northern) China (Beijing or Shanghai)
Laos/Vietnam
Philippines (guessing Luzon, specifically Ilocos Norte)
ARRIVE San Francisco
I'll even make a bold prediction of where they'll go in SF - Portrero Hill (find the most crookedest street - na uh - not Lombard), a task around the SF Zoo, and then final run somewhere in the Presidio.
I don't think they will visit Denmark or Vietnam because they just visited them in TAR19.
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We went to VietNam? ???
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Nordic Area , a new asian country like Nepal or Laos...
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Oops! I was thinking about Thailand instead of Vietnam. :-[ Sorry.
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Hmmm. I'm usually pretty good at guessing the types of countries we'll see.
We just had three legs in South America, so we're not headed back there this season. If the Americas are done, it'll more likely be a single penultimate leg somewhere in Central America or the Caribbean. I'd hope for El Salvador, but I think Costa Rica is more likely.
Central/Western Europe really needs a break - Austria and Germany have both had a full leg and a train transfer in the past three seasons, and in the past five we've also had the three central Scandinavian countries, the Netherlands, Belgium, Lichtenstein, Switzerland, Italy, France, and the UK. PIIGS is still unlikely, but it's possible they'll throw someone a bone and help out a struggling country's tourism industry. I'd still think we're more likely to get eastern Europe or the Balkans though. If we get PIIGS, it'll be two legs in Spain and Portugal. If we get eastern Europe, I'd go with Hungary again, or Slovenia and Slovakia. If we get the Balkans, it'll be Serbia. Outside chances for Bulgaria, Turkey, and Malta.
Africa? Tanzania's the first country to get a third official visit, and only Morocco and South Africa even have two. South Africa's probably the more likely of the two to get a repeat visit, but if we get another new country I'd be looking at Cameroon or Angola. We do need to hit that whole central African region eventually.
The Middle East is pretty much out of consideration thanks to the Arab Spring. Possibly Jordan, but I doubt it.
We did India last season, we've done Bangladesh fairly recently, Pakistan's not happening any time soon, and Nepal's still unsafe. Sri Lanka is the closest we'll get to a central Asian country.
In southeastern Asia, we just went to Indonesia and Thailand two seasons ago, and Cambodia, Vietnam, Malaysia, and Singapore have also been done not that long ago. Of the six Vietnam is most likely, although I'd prefer Malaysia. The only new countries in the region would be Brunei (which doesn't allow foreign TV crews), Burma (which would be a nightmare from a security perspective), and Laos.
Eastern Asia is where it gets a bit harder. As the producers seem to love the idea of showcasing the stereotypical "Oriental" countries, we've done at least one of Japan, China (including Hong Kong), and Taiwan in eleven of the past twelve seasons. Japan was last season and Taiwan was the season before, which means it's China's turn again if we want to make it twelve out of thirteen. Plus, Taiwan's too small to justify two visits in three seasons, and they wouldn't have done the Hiroshima trip if they'd been planning to return to Japan this season. If we don't, the southern part of South Korea is a distinct possibility.
Oceania, Oceania, Oceania. I'm still holding out for the southern part of Australia (Melbourne!), but given the show's "Leg 1: Big city. Leg 2: OUTBACK ADVENTURE." usage of Australia in all four previous visits, it's not likely. If Australia turns up, I'd go with Adelaide and Alice Springs. It's certainly time for New Zealand again though, and preferably without Auckland for once. The Pacific islands are likely to be ignored again, but since there didn't seem to be a reason for the charter flights to Ngorongoro Crater last season (as they were able to drive to Mto Wa Mbu, which we know from TAR5 is within driving distance of the Kilimanjaro Airport), it's a very remote chance they might have done it to prepare us for more charter flights in future.
With the finish line, we've done the southeastern US twice recently and California twice before that, so it should be somewhere in the north or centre of the country. I'd hope for New Orleans, but I'd bet on somewhere in the Midwest.
In summary, I'd predict:
1: Los Angeles to Portugal
2: Portugal to Spain
3: Spain to Hungary
4: Hungary
5: Hungary to Cameroon
6: Cameroon
7: Cameroon to South Africa
8: South Africa to New Zealand
9: New Zealand to Tonga
10: Tonga to South Korea
11: South Korea to Costa Rica
12: Costa Rica to Minneapolis
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Nice analysis! However Finland hasn't been visited since season 10.
I think that when tarfly said the three central Scandinavian countries, he meant Denmark, Norway, and Sweden.
I want to speculate on the teams a little more because everyone else is focusing on the countries. I think we'll have a parent-child team, possibly two. A parent-child team has still never won the race, and WRP might want to try to break that "curse" like they did in TAR17 when they had 4 F/F teams. I think we'll also get at least one team with that "interesting occupation" appeal (maybe something like lumberjacks, or even actual kindergarten teachers :lol:), and I think we'll get at least one openly gay racer, maybe even a gay couple, because of gay rights being so prevalent in American news recently.
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By the way, predicting Hungary is reasonable, especially if they are visiting Serbia after.
(There is an Express Train from Budapest to Belgrade.)
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Okay, well I also think that this coming race will also be a 3 continent race - Africa and South America are due for a rest after the past few seasons. This being said, to make the race interesting by not have 1 legs in north america (usa for the last leg), i think that they will definately explore either Canada or Mexico for the first or penultimate leg. I still think canada deserves a visit - Its an amazing place and would be easy to get to. Using canada would also enable a new starting/finishing leg because it is accesible by so many US airports.
Besides that I think that China will get a couple of legs, and I also think that Sri Lanka will get a visit (it was safe for TAR Aus). Europe will see visits to monte carlo, and 3 of either france, spain, iceland or portugal. UAEwill also get another visit.
My route would be:
Leg 1: USA to China
Leg 2: China
Leg 3: China to Sri Lanka
Leg 4: Sri Lanka to UAE
Leg 5: UAE
Leg 6: UAE to Spain
Leg 7: Spain to Portugal
Leg 8: Portugal to France
Leg 9: France to Iceland
Leg 10: Iceland
Leg 11: Iceland to Canada
Leg 12: Canada to USA
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By the same logic though, wouldn't Europe and Asia deserve a rest after being used for each of the past twelve seasons (and Asia in particular, which has only been skipped during the Family Edition)?
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Hmmm. I'm usually pretty good at guessing the types of countries we'll see.
We just had three legs in South America, so we're not headed back there this season. If the Americas are done, it'll more likely be a single penultimate leg somewhere in Central America or the Caribbean. I'd hope for El Salvador, but I think Costa Rica is more likely.
Central/Western Europe really needs a break - Austria and Germany have both had a full leg and a train transfer in the past three seasons, and in the past five we've also had the three central Scandinavian countries, the Netherlands, Belgium, Lichtenstein, Switzerland, Italy, France, and the UK. PIIGS is still unlikely, but it's possible they'll throw someone a bone and help out a struggling country's tourism industry. I'd still think we're more likely to get eastern Europe or the Balkans though. If we get PIIGS, it'll be two legs in Spain and Portugal. If we get eastern Europe, I'd go with Hungary again, or Slovenia and Slovakia. If we get the Balkans, it'll be Serbia. Outside chances for Bulgaria, Turkey, and Malta.
Africa? Tanzania's the first country to get a third official visit, and only Morocco and South Africa even have two. South Africa's probably the more likely of the two to get a repeat visit, but if we get another new country I'd be looking at Cameroon or Angola. We do need to hit that whole central African region eventually.
The Middle East is pretty much out of consideration thanks to the Arab Spring. Possibly Jordan, but I doubt it.
We did India last season, we've done Bangladesh fairly recently, Pakistan's not happening any time soon, and Nepal's still unsafe. Sri Lanka is the closest we'll get to a central Asian country.
In southeastern Asia, we just went to Indonesia and Thailand two seasons ago, and Cambodia, Vietnam, Malaysia, and Singapore have also been done not that long ago. Of the six Vietnam is most likely, although I'd prefer Malaysia. The only new countries in the region would be Brunei (which doesn't allow foreign TV crews), Burma (which would be a nightmare from a security perspective), and Laos.
Eastern Asia is where it gets a bit harder. As the producers seem to love the idea of showcasing the stereotypical "Oriental" countries, we've done at least one of Japan, China (including Hong Kong), and Taiwan in eleven of the past twelve seasons. Japan was last season and Taiwan was the season before, which means it's China's turn again if we want to make it twelve out of thirteen. Plus, Taiwan's too small to justify two visits in three seasons, and they wouldn't have done the Hiroshima trip if they'd been planning to return to Japan this season. If we don't, the southern part of South Korea is a distinct possibility.
Oceania, Oceania, Oceania. I'm still holding out for the southern part of Australia (Melbourne!), but given the show's "Leg 1: Big city. Leg 2: OUTBACK ADVENTURE." usage of Australia in all four previous visits, it's not likely. If Australia turns up, I'd go with Adelaide and Alice Springs. It's certainly time for New Zealand again though, and preferably without Auckland for once. The Pacific islands are likely to be ignored again, but since there didn't seem to be a reason for the charter flights to Ngorongoro Crater last season (as they were able to drive to Mto Wa Mbu, which we know from TAR5 is within driving distance of the Kilimanjaro Airport), it's a very remote chance they might have done it to prepare us for more charter flights in future.
With the finish line, we've done the southeastern US twice recently and California twice before that, so it should be somewhere in the north or centre of the country. I'd hope for New Orleans, but I'd bet on somewhere in the Midwest.
In summary, I'd predict:
1: Los Angeles to Portugal
2: Portugal to Spain
3: Spain to Hungary
4: Hungary
5: Hungary to Cameroon
6: Cameroon
7: Cameroon to South Africa
8: South Africa to New Zealand
9: New Zealand to Tonga
10: Tonga to South Korea
11: South Korea to Costa Rica
12: Costa Rica to Minneapolis
You are very good at guessing indeed!
What you have predicted so far looks pretty good
Do you think there's a chance we might see a north-eastern city? :duno:
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In the US? Outside chance. New York would be spoiled to DEATH, and Boston was a start line recently (though that doesn't stop the LA starts), so let's exclude them both. Although other cities are big enough, the only ones recognisable enough - and they like to pick places known internationally as well - would be Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and DC.
The other big possibility is Texas. Considering all we've gotten in exchange for all those teams is the maze task in TAR5, it seems like it really should turn up sometime soon.
Really, I think the final city is a tossup at this point between Minneapolis/St. Paul, Detroit, Houston, and St. Louis.
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I really want to see Seattle as the final destination city :hoot:
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It has been in TAR3.
I think this race is an only three continents race too, for obvious reasons that have been said earlier. The only other continent that I could see visited, would be Australia or Northern Africa (not that that is a country but whatever). With that said, there are a few countries from Europe and Asia that have been visited in the past two seasons:
Denmark
Belgium
Indonesia
Thailand
Taiwan
Germany
Italy
India
Japan
Azerbaijan
Then we have some countries that are not allowed to be visited:
Phillipines
Mexico
Lebanon
Israel
And some countries that have been visited quite recently and aren't a China or India (who are likely to be visited every 2/3 seasons):
Switzerland
Austria
Norway
Sweden
Liechtenstein
Bangladesh
Oman
And then we have some countries that host a big sport event, which would cause lots of spoilers:
Ukraine
Poland
England (just England)
Which would leave us with these European countries (in the event of a three continent race)
Albania (scrapping, reason below)
Andorra
Armenia (I'm going to scrap this one, since Azerbaijan just has been visited)
Belarus (scrapping, reason below)
Bosnia
Bulgaria
Croatia (scrapping, reason below)
Cyprus
Czech Republic (scrapping, reason below)
Estonia (I'm going to scrap this one, since I think they would visit Latvia earlier)
Finland (I'm going to scrap this one, since Finland is much prettier in the winter)
France
Georgia (I'm going to scrap this one, since Azerbaijan just has been visited
Greece
Hungary
Iceland
Ireland
Kazakhstan
Latvia
Lithuania (I'm going to scrap this one, since Latvia is more likely to be visited)
Luxembourg
Macedonia
Malta
Moldova (scrapping, reason below)
Monaco
Montenegro (scrapping, reason below)
Netherlands
Portugal
Romania (scrapping, reason below)
Russia
San Marino (I'm going to scrap this one)
Scotland
Serbia
Slovakia (scrapping, reason below)
Slovenia
Spain
Turkey
And these Asian countries, in the event of a three continent race:
Bahrain
Bhutan
Brunei (Scrapping, no camera crews allowed)
Cambodia (Scrapping, already had too legs, don't think there is that much more to see)
China
Jordan
South Korea
Kuwait (scrapping, reason below)
Kyrgzystan (scrapping, reason below)
Laos
Malaysia
Maldives
Mongolia (scrapping reason below)
Nepal
Qatar
Singapore (Scrapping, already had too visits)
Sri Lanka
Tajikistan (scrapping, reason below)
Turkmenistan (scrapping, reason below)
UAE
Uzbekistan
Vietnam (scrapping, reason below)
Of those countries; (1) I think these are not due for a revisit (have seen too much of the country already), or (2) I don't think TAR will visit them (cause of new country that isn't that popular)
Albania (2)
Belarus (2)
Croatia (1)
Czech Republic (1)
Moldova (2)
Montenegro (2)
Romania (1)
Slovakia (2)
Kuwait (1)
Kyrgyzystan (2)
Mongolia (1)
Tadzjistan (2)
Turkmenistan (2)
Vietnam (1)
These are the countries, I think, can be visited. Now I'm going to make a race with the following guidelines:
- At maximum three new countries
- Not more than 5 countries per continent
- Three countries with two legs
- One leg in Carribean
- One leg in Middle East
- Two countries that have been visited quite a few times.
- An Europe start (we haven't had it since TAR17)
Leg 1: USA (Los Angeles) --> France (Paris/Versailles)
Leg 2: France (French Riviera)
Leg 3: France --> Spain (Madrid)
Leg 4: Spain (Andulusia)
Leg 5: Spain --> Ireland (Dublin)
Leg 6: Ireland --> UAE (Abu Dhabi)
Leg 7: UAE --> Kazakhstan (Astana)
Leg 8: Kazakhstan --> China (Chengdu)
Leg 9: China --> Laos (Vientiane)
Leg 10: Laos (Luang Prabang)
Leg 11: Laos --> Trinidad & Tobago (Port of Spain)
Leg 12: Trinidad & Tobago --> USA (D.C.)
This is my final prediction :tup:
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It has been in TAR3.
I think this race is an only three continents race too, for obvious reasons that have been said earlier. The only other continent that I could see visited, would be Australia or Northern Africa (not that that is a country but whatever). With that said, there are a few countries from Europe and Asia that have been visited in the past two seasons:
Denmark
Belgium
Indonesia
Thailand
Taiwan
Germany
Italy
India
Japan
Azerbaijan
Then we have some countries that are not allowed to be visited:
Phillipines
Mexico
Lebanon
Israel
And some countries that have been visited quite recently and aren't a China or India (who are likely to be visited every 2/3 seasons):
Switzerland
Austria
Norway
Sweden
Liechtenstein
Bangladesh
Oman
And then we have some countries that host a big sport event, which would cause lots of spoilers:
Ukraine
Poland
England (just England)
Which would leave us with these European countries (in the event of a three continent race)
Albania (scrapping, reason below)
Andorra
Armenia (I'm going to scrap this one, since Azerbaijan just has been visited)
Belarus (scrapping, reason below)
Bosnia
Bulgaria
Croatia (scrapping, reason below)
Cyprus
Czech Republic (scrapping, reason below)
Estonia (I'm going to scrap this one, since I think they would visit Latvia earlier)
Finland (I'm going to scrap this one, since Finland is much prettier in the winter)
France
Georgia (I'm going to scrap this one, since Azerbaijan just has been visited
Greece
Hungary
Iceland
Ireland
Kazakhstan
Latvia
Lithuania (I'm going to scrap this one, since Latvia is more likely to be visited)
Luxembourg
Macedonia
Malta
Moldova (scrapping, reason below)
Monaco
Montenegro (scrapping, reason below)
Netherlands
Portugal
Romania (scrapping, reason below)
Russia
San Marino (I'm going to scrap this one)
Scotland
Serbia
Slovakia (scrapping, reason below)
Slovenia
Spain
Turkey
And these Asian countries, in the event of a three continent race:
Bahrain
Bhutan
Brunei (Scrapping, no camera crews allowed)
Cambodia (Scrapping, already had too legs, don't think there is that much more to see)
China
Jordan
South Korea
Kuwait (scrapping, reason below)
Kyrgzystan (scrapping, reason below)
Laos
Malaysia
Maldives
Mongolia (scrapping reason below)
Nepal
Qatar
Singapore (Scrapping, already had too visits)
Sri Lanka
Tajikistan (scrapping, reason below)
Turkmenistan (scrapping, reason below)
UAE
Uzbekistan
Vietnam (scrapping, reason below)
Of those countries; (1) I think these are not due for a revisit (have seen too much of the country already), or (2) I don't think TAR will visit them (cause of new country that isn't that popular)
Albania (2)
Belarus (2)
Croatia (1)
Czech Republic (1)
Moldova (2)
Montenegro (2)
Romania (1)
Slovakia (2)
Kuwait (1)
Kyrgyzystan (2)
Mongolia (1)
Tadzjistan (2)
Turkmenistan (2)
Vietnam (1)
These are the countries, I think, can be visited. Now I'm going to make a race with the following guidelines:
- At maximum three new countries
- Not more than 5 countries per continent
- Three countries with two legs
- One leg in Carribean
- One leg in Middle East
- Two countries that have been visited quite a few times.
- An Europe start (we haven't had it since TAR17)
Leg 1: USA (Los Angeles) --> France (Paris/Versailles)
Leg 2: France (French Riviera)
Leg 3: France --> Spain (Madrid)
Leg 4: Spain (Andulusia)
Leg 5: Spain --> Ireland (Dublin)
Leg 6: Ireland --> UAE (Abu Dhabi)
Leg 7: UAE --> Kazakhstan (Astana)
Leg 8: Kazakhstan --> China (Chengdu)
Leg 9: China --> Laos (Vientiane)
Leg 10: Laos (Luang Prabang)
Leg 11: Laos --> Trinidad & Tobago (Port of Spain)
Leg 12: Trinidad & Tobago --> USA (D.C.)
This is my final prediction :tup:
I see a few things wrong with this list here-
First: Mexico, Israel, and Philippines are allowed to be visited because only Northern Mexico is dangerous, Israel hosted TARAus1 a year ago and Philippines have hosted previous foreign races like TARAus2.
Second: Don't rule out Croatia and Finland, TAR10 never had a pit stop in Finland only a TBC and TAR12 only visted Dubrovnik, Zagreb should deserve a visit. Also Kyrgyzstan, Vietnam, and Brunei shoudn't ruled out (where does it say Brunei doesn't allow camera crews). Besides Brazil or one of the Pacific Island nations like Fiji, Samoa, or Palau deserve a visit in Brazil's case a revisit.
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This is my own opinion.. I think those countries won't be visited. But feel free to give your opinion.
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http://www.emergefilmsolutions.com/Brunei.html
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I really hope they give Brunei a visit!
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I think you got Brunei and Bhutan confused.
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I really hope they give Brunei a visit!
I hope so too. That website with the link about filming in Brunei mentions "key" film crew must be brought in from abroad. This actually means foreign crew are welcome.
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I am totally guessing a four continent visit (North America-Europe-Asia-Oceania-North America)
-Start in the USA
-A leg or two in Central America (El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Belize)
-Followed by legs in Europe and Asia (Spain, Portugal, France, SE Europe, Turkey, Qatar, Israel, Jordan, UAE, South/Central Asia, SE Asia, China)
-Then a leg in a Pacific Island country (Fiji, Samoa, Palau, Vanuatu, Tahiti, Micronesia, Tonga, Papua New Guinea)
-Followed by the final leg back in the USA
(Thats my absolute prediction)
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This is my own opinion.. I think those countries won't be visited. But feel free to give your opinion.
From my perspective, including Israel and The Philippines in the "no visit" list of countries makes no sense. Israel has had two seasons of TAR itself and was just visited last season by TARAu. The Philippines are going to air their own version of TAR this year, and USA & Australian versions have recently been there. In addition, CBS just finished filming the next season of Survivor in The Philippines.
Also, I think Vietnam could be a distinct possibility. Many other versions of TAR have visited there in their last season.
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In addition, CBS just finished filming the next season of Survivor in The Philippines.
On the other hand, that could be a good opportunity for cross-promotion (using TAR to promote Survivor and vice versa).
(...and :bigwelcome to RFF!)
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They aren't finished.
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I am guessing since they only visited India and Japan for Season 20 and they are bound to touch Asia (More like South-east Asia or Asian countries) for every season...
20: India and Japan
19: Taiwan, Indonesia, Thailand
18: Japan, China, India
17: Bangladesh, Hong Kong, South Korea
16: Malaysia, Singapore, China
15: Japan, Vietnam, Cambodia
14: India, Thailand, China
From what we can see, they try to visit China (or part of China like Hong Kong or Taiwan every season... and TAR 20 is an exception with no Chinese countries at all as well as TAR 15)
I predict at least 2 legs in China (with one of it being NEL -_-), no more Japan and India. No India, but not ruling out places like Sri Lanka or Bangladesh again.
TAR also really like Malaysia and there's many places not visited in Malaysia as well. So if they're visiting Malaysia, they might make a trip down to Singapore again like TAR 3 and TAR 16.
I have a feeling they will be visiting at least 1 middle east country in Asia such as Kuwait, Turkey, Oman, Kazakhstan and Israel. They might visit Israel if they want to clog up new countries which they can use in their previews.
I also think, Philippines is due for a visit too.
Asian countries I would really like to see would be Philippines and Laos or Brunei.
But gut feeling tells me China will definitely be visited and the other 2 asian countries will most probably be Cambodia/Vietnam and Sri Lanka/Bangladesh.
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Using the excuse that foreign versions have gone to X-country doesn't work. Different countries have different opinions of what's safe, different insurance, etc.
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My prediction for a Route Info this season:
"Proceed on foot to the next Pit Stop, the Survivor camp in Caramoan."
Well, Survivors once visited Big Brother, so why not? ;)
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I predict we're going to have an awesome time following the race around the world! :jam:
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I predict we're going to have an awesome time following the race around the world! :jam:
Second this!!
Who needs sleep?? :lol3:
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I am guessing since they only visited India and Japan for Season 20 and they are bound to touch Asia (More like South-east Asia or Asian countries) for every season...
20: India and Japan
19: Taiwan, Indonesia, Thailand
18: Japan, China, India
17: Bangladesh, Hong Kong, South Korea
16: Malaysia, Singapore, China
15: Japan, Vietnam, Cambodia
14: India, Thailand, China
From what we can see, they try to visit China (or part of China like Hong Kong or Taiwan every season... and TAR 20 is an exception with no Chinese countries at all as well as TAR 15)
I predict at least 2 legs in China (with one of it being NEL -_-), no more Japan and India. No India, but not ruling out places like Sri Lanka or Bangladesh again.
TAR also really like Malaysia and there's many places not visited in Malaysia as well. So if they're visiting Malaysia, they might make a trip down to Singapore again like TAR 3 and TAR 16.
I have a feeling they will be visiting at least 1 middle east country in Asia such as Kuwait, Turkey, Oman, Kazakhstan and Israel. They might visit Israel if they want to clog up new countries which they can use in their previews.
I also think, Philippines is due for a visit too.
Asian countries I would really like to see would be Philippines and Laos or Brunei.
But gut feeling tells me China will definitely be visited and the other 2 asian countries will most probably be Cambodia/Vietnam and Sri Lanka/Bangladesh.
Since when was Kazakhstan in the Middle East? ???
Wouldn't it be in Central Asia (along with all the other 'Stans' bar Pakistan)?
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Well the race has started and I'm holding out hope for a night start somewhere on the east coast.
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I am speculating that a 3-4 continent race this season in this order (Asia-Africa-Europe-North America) with between 2-5 new countries
These are the possible new countries that could be visited this season:
-Laos (Hopefully)
-2nd Asian Country (Nepal or Qatar)
-New African Country (Cameroon or Gabon)
-New European Countries (Bulgaria, Latvia, Serbia, Monaco, or Luxembourg)
These are the returning countries that I hope could be visited this season (some of them):
-Vietnam (Central Vietnam)
-Spain (Madrid)
-Portugal (Lisbon)
-Finland (Helsinki)
-Turkey (Izmir or Anatyla)
-Iceland (Reykjavik)
:conf:
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I am guessing since they only visited India and Japan for Season 20 and they are bound to touch Asia (More like South-east Asia or Asian countries) for every season...
20: India and Japan
19: Taiwan, Indonesia, Thailand
18: Japan, China, India
17: Bangladesh, Hong Kong, South Korea
16: Malaysia, Singapore, China
15: Japan, Vietnam, Cambodia
14: India, Thailand, China
From what we can see, they try to visit China (or part of China like Hong Kong or Taiwan every season... and TAR 20 is an exception with no Chinese countries at all as well as TAR 15)
I predict at least 2 legs in China (with one of it being NEL -_-), no more Japan and India. No India, but not ruling out places like Sri Lanka or Bangladesh again.
TAR also really like Malaysia and there's many places not visited in Malaysia as well. So if they're visiting Malaysia, they might make a trip down to Singapore again like TAR 3 and TAR 16.
I have a feeling they will be visiting at least 1 middle east country in Asia such as Kuwait, Turkey, Oman, Kazakhstan and Israel. They might visit Israel if they want to clog up new countries which they can use in their previews.
I also think, Philippines is due for a visit too.
Asian countries I would really like to see would be Philippines and Laos or Brunei.
But gut feeling tells me China will definitely be visited and the other 2 asian countries will most probably be Cambodia/Vietnam and Sri Lanka/Bangladesh.
Since when was Kazakhstan in the Middle East? ???
Wouldn't it be in Central Asia (along with all the other 'Stans' bar Pakistan)?
Is it in Central Asia.. but still near the Middle East? :lol:
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Kinda... It's north of India and west of China. Look it up on Google Maps if you want more info! But it is in the area squashed between Europe and Asia.
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Kinda... It's north of India and west of China. Look it up on Google Maps if you want more info! But it is in the area squashed between Europe and Asia.
Kazakhstan is in Central Asia!! Its west of China and Mongolia and south of Russia/Siberia!! :groan:
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nvm
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I made some predictions above on where the 2nd leg will not be. Now, please remember that there are hundreds of places in Asia where it might be. I think the most interesting of those in Urumqi in the far west of China in Szechuan province,but it has no better than about a 1% chance of being the second leg destination.
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I'm suspecting another leg in China. Pre-AllStars, we had a visit to China four times (TAR14, 16, 17, 18), and except for season 17, all of them had two/three legs in China. If we don't visit a new city, I will be screaming. My top 3 would be:
1. Hangzhou (West Lake is beautiful)
2. Chengdu (Pandas <333)
3. Nanjing
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And I was right with China. :lol:
TAR loves China.
Language barrier + Hot temperature + Completely different culture = GOOD TV
I remembered the last time we had a first leg in China (TAR 10), I really enjoyed the season and first leg too! :wohoo:
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And after China, other possibilities could be Philippines, Vietnam, Cambodia or.... Malaysia, I guess. Keep a lookout! (I'm going to go with gut feeling that they won't visit Thailand again! </3)
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And after China, other possibilities could be Philippines, Vietnam, Cambodia or.... Malaysia, I guess. Keep a lookout! (I'm going to go with gut feeling that they won't visit Thailand again! </3)
If they do visit Thailand again, I hope its Chiang Mai. It hasn't been visited since Season 2. I think we already seen enough of Bangkok and Phuket.
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sorry, I meant this to go on the AR21 Transportation thread, which is where it is now
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Since we know their next destination, I hope they'll still stay in the same country for the next leg
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I have a feeling that after Surabaya we will go to Brunei.
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Since we know their next destination, I hope they'll still stay in the same country for the next leg
I really hope that after this leg, they're going to Jakarta! Capital city is a MUST! :jam:
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Since we know their next destination, I hope they'll still stay in the same country for the next leg
I really hope that after this leg, they're going to Jakarta! Capital city is a MUST! :jam:
Just FYI,
Surabaya is a gateway to reach the eastern part of Indonesia,
they might as well go to the eastern regions such as Komodo Island, or North Sulawesi (Bunaken National Underwater Park) or straight down to Australia or NZ... ;)
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Since we know their next destination, I hope they'll still stay in the same country for the next leg
I really hope that after this leg, they're going to Jakarta! Capital city is a MUST! :jam:
Just FYI,
Surabaya is a gateway to reach the eastern part of Indonesia,
they might as well go to the eastern regions such as Komodo Island, or North Sulawesi (Bunaken National Underwater Park) or straight down to Australia or NZ... ;)
If they're going to Komodo Island or North Sulawesi after that, I'll be REALLY HAPPY for it!!! :wohoo: :wohoo: :wohoo:
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I think they will go to one of India/Sri lanka/Bangladesh/Nepal for obvious reason :lol:
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I think they will go to one of India/Sri lanka/Bangladesh/Nepal for obvious reason :lol:
I think that they won't go to India this time, since they've done two legs on previous race. And I don't think that Bangladesh will be visited this time. However, Sri Lanka and Nepal is a possibility. :)
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I think it will be double leg in Indonesia. They go to Bangkalan, East Java. maybe next destination such as bali, lombok, or province in sulawesi or Papua. I Hope they would visit Raja Ampat or Wakatobi :)
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Im pretty sure most of us think that Leg 5 of TAR19 was unplanned
I mean, even though it ended up being an exciting episode once in Bangkok, it was terrible leg architecture
so I think that the leg that was cancelled will be done after Indonesia, and i did my research, and based on that i think the cancelled leg was LAOS :tup:
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And after China, other possibilities could be Philippines, Vietnam, Cambodia or.... Malaysia, I guess. Keep a lookout! (I'm going to go with gut feeling that they won't visit Thailand again! </3)
If they do visit Thailand again, I hope its Chiang Mai. It hasn't been visited since Season 2. I think we already seen enough of Bangkok and Phuket.
Second this.
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Hopefully,there will be Nepal,Central Asian countries and
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I'm hoping and think will they go to Laos.
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I think it will be either Nepal or another leg in Indonesia (though I don't like this).
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Im pretty sure most of us think that Leg 5 of TAR19 was unplanned
I mean, even though it ended up being an exciting episode once in Bangkok, it was terrible leg architecture
so I think that the leg that was cancelled will be done after Indonesia, and i did my research, and based on that i think the cancelled leg was LAOS :tup:
Please visit Laos!
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New country please! I think since they are down already I guess should be another country next... Hoping they visit.. maybe Borneo.. or Sarawak? I mean it's not a new country but at least a new place!
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Borneo has been visited in TAR4 :tup: Maby Denpasar?
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Borneo has been visited in TAR4 :tup: Maby Denpasar?
Since Surabaya is a gateway to Eastern Indonesia, I'm really hoping that they're going to either Lesser Sunda Islands, Sulawesi, Maluku Islands, or Papua.. :hoot: :hoot: :hoot:
Still, if they're going to other country on the next leg, it's okay.. Maybe next time! :hrt:
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Are they avoiding Bali on purpose? :lol:
They didn't go in season 19, & this time they're going to Madura for the 1st (?) Indonesian leg.
If they're going to Oz or NZ then I predict they go to Bali for the next leg. If they go to other destinations, then it's Surabaya (with a transit in Jakarta for leg 4).
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My predictions for TAR21:
Leg 1: USA (Los Angeles) to China (Chengdu)
Leg 2: China (Chengdu) to Spain (Madrid)
Leg 3: Spain (Barcelona)
Leg 4: Spain (Barcelona) to Ukraine (Kiev)
Leg 5: Ukraine (Kiev) to Switzerland (Geneva)
Leg 6: Switzerland (Geneva) to India (Dehli)
Leg 7: India (Dehli) to Monaco (Monte Carlo)
Leg 8: Monaco (Monte Carlo) to Morocco to Laos (Vientiane)
Leg 9: Laos (Vientiane) to Russia (St. Petersburg)
Leg 10: Russia (St. Petersburg) to Canada (Vancouver)
Leg 11: Canada (Toronto)
Leg 12: Canada (Toronto) to USA (Washington, DC)
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My predictions for TAR21:
Leg 1: USA (Los Angeles) to China (Chengdu)
Leg 2: China (Chengdu) to Spain (Madrid)
Leg 3: Spain (Barcelona)
Leg 4: Spain (Barcelona) to Ukraine (Kiev)
Leg 5: Ukraine (Kiev) to Switzerland (Geneva)
Leg 6: Switzerland (Geneva) to India (Dehli)
Leg 7: India (Dehli) to Monaco (Monte Carlo)
Leg 8: Monaco (Monte Carlo) to Morocco to Laos (Vientiane)
Leg 9: Laos (Vientiane) to Russia (St. Petersburg)
Leg 10: Russia (St. Petersburg) to Canada (Vancouver)
Leg 11: Canada (Toronto)
Leg 12: Canada (Toronto) to USA (Washington, DC)
Since The Amazing Race 21 is being filmed right now, I`am sorry to tell You that the first two legs are wrong.
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I hope to see Latvia (Riga), Bulgaria (Sofia), Spain (Madrid and Valencia), NorthernIreland (Belfast) and Ireland (Dublin)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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My gut says we'll see New Zealand, South Africa, Angola and Latvia. But I know my gut is not reliable :)
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My top 3 candidates for leg 3 are:
Kota Kinabalu
Cebu
Manila
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If they go to Borneo, I would like to see Kuching. Kota Kinabalu is used already.
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I predict Central Asia such as Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, or any other country ending in stan!
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I'll be surprised if Leg 3 is a different country. My guess would be around the Bali area, perhaps even Lombok or the Gili Islands. After that, I'm predicting Bandar Seri Begawan for Leg 4!
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My Leg 3 guess is either-
Bali, Indonesia
Vientiane, Laos
Chiang Mai, Thailand
Kuching, Malaysia
Kota Kinabalu, Malaysia
Alice Springs, Australia
-Hypothetical Race Route-
Asia to Oceania to Africa to Europe to North America
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I think that they will go to Europe after Asia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup:
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Me hopes for only 3 legs in Asia...
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My gut says Laos and Vietnam will be visited next.
I feel Indonesia will only be 1 leg since we just visited it 2 seasons ago.
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Me hopes for only 3 legs in Asia...
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I also hope that there are only 3 legs in Asia, I`am so excited to see if it is Africa, Europe or Oceania next. :duno: :duno: :duno: :duno:
My hope is Europe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :luvya: :luvya: :luvya: :luvya:
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I hope they will go to New Guinea for the 3rd leg, altho this is so impossible.
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I have feeling there will be 2 Indonesia legs...
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If they do not do Bali next, i hope they go to Baluran National Park!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :luvya: :luvya: :luvya: :luvya:
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Still hoping that they'll go to Bunaken National Park... :pray:
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If it's a 12 hr pitstop, maybe they have to head to Bromo for sunrise?
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Sri Lanka anyone? I think TAR tends to visit the country where one team comes from, like Japan on TAR 20 or Sweden on TAR 17.
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Bali make me watch 100 times that episode if there aré going to bali also the finish line in nyc love it
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Sri Lanka anyone? I think TAR tends to visit the country where one team comes from, like Japan on TAR 20 or Sweden on TAR 17.
Who was from Sweden in TAR 17?
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I predict Laos/Vietnam in Legs 4 and 5.
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Sri Lanka anyone? I think TAR tends to visit the country where one team comes from, like Japan on TAR 20 or Sweden on TAR 17.
Who was from Sweden in TAR 17?
I think the blonde one from Nat & Kat.
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Sri Lanka anyone? I think TAR tends to visit the country where one team comes from, like Japan on TAR 20 or Sweden on TAR 17.
Who was from Sweden in TAR 17?
I think the blonde one from Nat & Kat.
No, one of the blonde from the volleyball players team.
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Sri Lanka anyone? I think TAR tends to visit the country where one team comes from, like Japan on TAR 20 or Sweden on TAR 17.
Who was from Sweden in TAR 17?
I think the blonde one from Nat & Kat.
No, one of the blonde from the volleyball players team.
I don't know about the volleyball players but Nat had Swedish ancestry.
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Sri Lanka anyone? I think TAR tends to visit the country where one team comes from, like Japan on TAR 20 or Sweden on TAR 17.
Who was from Sweden in TAR 17?
I think the blonde one from Nat & Kat.
No, one of the blonde from the volleyball players team.
I don't know about the volleyball players but Nat had Swedish ancestry.
I just rewatched episode 4 of TAR17 and i think its Rachel with swedish ancestry
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Sri Lanka anyone? I think TAR tends to visit the country where one team comes from, like Japan on TAR 20 or Sweden on TAR 17.
Who was from Sweden in TAR 17?
I think the blonde one from Nat & Kat.
No, one of the blonde from the volleyball players team.
I don't know about the volleyball players but Nat had Swedish ancestry.
I just rewatched episode 4 of TAR17 and i think its Rachel with swedish ancestry
Oh right! I just re-watched and you're right. But in the same episode, a couple of minutes later when Nat and Kat are leaving the Pit Stop, Nat says: "My homeland, my people". So both of them are from Swedish ancestry.
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Leg 4 Indonesia - Hong Kong
Leg 5 Hong Kong - Australia
Leg 6 Australia
Leg 7 Australia - New Zealand
Leg 8 New Zealand - Sri Lanka
Leg 9 Sri Lanka - England
TBC Leg 10 England - France
Leg 11 France
Leg 12 France - USA
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Leg 4 Indonesia - Russia
Leg 5 Russia - Latvia
Leg 6 Latvia - Ukraine
Leg 7 Ukraine - Greece
Leg 8 Greece
Leg 9 Greece - Brazil
Leg 10 Brazil - Chile
Leg 11 Chile - Belize
Leg 12 Belize - New York
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Leg 4 Indonesia - Qatar
Leg 5 Qatar - Jordan
Leg 6 Jordan - Israel
Leg 7 Israel - Latvia
Leg 8 Latvia - Bulgaria
Leg 9 Bulgaria - Spain
Leg 10 Spain - NorthernIreland
Leg 11 NorthernIreland - Ireland
Leg 12 Ireland - Boston ( USA )
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Indonesia - Singapore
Singapore - Armenia
Armenia - Servia
Servia - Spain
Spain
Spain - Morocco
Morocco - South Africa
South Africa - Mexico
Mexico to US.
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Indonesia - Singapore
Singapore - Armenia
Armenia - Serbia
Serbia - Spain
Spain
Spain - Morocco
Morocco - South Africa
South Africa - Mexico
Mexico to US.
Fixed. :)
And hopefully, I would love visits to Serbia and Spain!
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Are you all posting wishlists? Or some actual fact based predictions? ???
:lol:
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Leg 4 Indonesia - Hong Kong
Leg 5 Hong Kong - Australia
Leg 6 Australia
Leg 7 Australia - New Zealand
Leg 8 New Zealand - Sri Lanka
Leg 9 Sri Lanka - England
TBC Leg 10 England - France
Leg 11 France
Leg 12 France - USA
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What? No new countries? Not even one? :duno:
If leg 4 is indeed in Singapore, then i'm guessing Europe will come next. Maybe a new country there like Serbia or Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Are you all posting wishlists? Or some actual fact based predictions? ???
:lol:
:lol: IKR.
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Peach, It's obvious that there are many wishlists being submitted. Where else do posters have to put them? Perhaps you opening a new thread just for them would be a good way to handle them.
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I predict that we could see Sri Lanka in either this season or the next. It has only been visited once and in the 1st season of the Australian franchise it was presented really well, and it looks as if it is safe enough for a few legs. I also read somewhere (I will try and find the article) that TAR wants to go to some new, or barely/not recently visited Asian countries in the next few seasons instead of just china and india :conf:) this is why i predict sri lanka
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I predict that we could see Sri Lanka in either this season or the next. It has only been visited once and in the 1st season of the Australian franchise it was presented really well, and it looks as if it is safe enough for a few legs. I also read somewhere (I will try and find the article) that TAR wants to go to some new, or barely/not recently visited Asian countries in the next few seasons instead of just china and india :conf:) this is why i predict sri lanka
TARA4 has visited Sri Lanka. As with TAR6 as well.
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I am guessing since they only visited India and Japan for Season 20 and they are bound to touch Asia (More like South-east Asia or Asian countries) for every season...
20: India and Japan
19: Taiwan, Indonesia, Thailand
18: Japan, China, India
17: Bangladesh, Hong Kong, South Korea
16: Malaysia, Singapore, China
15: Japan, Vietnam, Cambodia
14: India, Thailand, China
From what we can see, they try to visit China (or part of China like Hong Kong or Taiwan every season... and TAR 20 is an exception with no Chinese countries at all as well as TAR 15)
I predict at least 2 legs in China (with one of it being NEL -_-), no more Japan and India. No India, but not ruling out places like Sri Lanka or Bangladesh again.
TAR also really like Malaysia and there's many places not visited in Malaysia as well. So if they're visiting Malaysia, they might make a trip down to Singapore again like TAR 3 and TAR 16.
I have a feeling they will be visiting at least 1 middle east country in Asia such as Kuwait, Turkey, Oman, Kazakhstan and Israel. They might visit Israel if they want to clog up new countries which they can use in their previews.
I also think, Philippines is due for a visit too.
Asian countries I would really like to see would be Philippines and Laos or Brunei.
But gut feeling tells me China will definitely be visited and the other 2 asian countries will most probably be Cambodia/Vietnam and Sri Lanka/Bangladesh.
If the Colombo spoiler is true. I've got Sri Lanka and China correctly predicted! TAR simply loves Chinese/Indian countries for the culture and language barrier it seems.
But usually for these legs, it's really tough/rough and the alpha male teams USUALLY do really well. -_-
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I predict that we could see Sri Lanka in either this season or the next. It has only been visited once and in the 1st season of the Australian franchise it was presented really well, and it looks as if it is safe enough for a few legs. I also read somewhere (I will try and find the article) that TAR wants to go to some new, or barely/not recently visited Asian countries in the next few seasons instead of just china and india :conf:) this is why i predict sri lanka
TARA4 has visited Sri Lanka. As with TAR6 as well.
I realise this. I said that tar has only been visited once, and I meant the US version. This thread, of course, is about the american version, and so I was only referring to the US seasons that have visited it. What I mean is that it is underused, and that in TARAus 1 it was presented well and was safe. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Also, if the Sri Lanka rumour is true, do you think they will head into a new continent afterwards?
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It going to be a fun Season! :keeta:
1) Shanghai
2) Surabaya
3) Pasuruan
4) Sri Lanka
5) Ethiopia
6) Mozambique
7) Russia
eight) Turkey
9) Bulgaria
10) Monaco
11) Gibraltar
12) USA
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I predict that we could see Sri Lanka in either this season or the next. It has only been visited once and in the 1st season of the Australian franchise it was presented really well, and it looks as if it is safe enough for a few legs. I also read somewhere (I will try and find the article) that TAR wants to go to some new, or barely/not recently visited Asian countries in the next few seasons instead of just china and india :conf:) this is why i predict sri lanka
TARA4 has visited Sri Lanka. As with TAR6 as well.
I realise this. I said that tar has only been visited once, and I meant the US version. This thread, of course, is about the american version, and so I was only referring to the US seasons that have visited it. What I mean is that it is underused, and that in TARAus 1 it was presented well and was safe. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Also, if the Sri Lanka rumour is true, do you think they will head into a new continent afterwards?
Yes, definitely I believe. I think they will go West wards to Africa... OR, Northwest to Europe.. More likely they will head to Africa but after Africa they MIGHT just go to South America and skip the whole Europe/Middle East... WHICH I HOPE NOT. )-**
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Leg1:Shanghai
Leg2:Surabaya
Leg3: Pasuruan
Leg4:Sri Lanka
Leg5-6:a new middle-east country
Leg7-8:Africa
Leg9-11:Europe
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I think they try to hit at least 4 continents EVERY season. Last season had 5 (Australia skipped), 19 had 4 (SA skipped), 18 had 5 (Africa skipped! Could have been six!), 17 had 4 (SA skipped again). Considering that they only went to two SA countries last season, I don't think they will skip it again this season. But this seems like too many continents to cover since they spent the first 4 legs? in Asia...
Leg 5-6: Africa (NEL/TBC/Keep racing leg) F8/F7 NEL?
Leg 7-9: One new middle east country + 2 European legs (F5/F4 NEL?)
Leg 10-11: South America (NEL/TBC/Keep racing leg) F4 elimination
Leg 12: USA
That will still cover 5 continents... and give every continent a good coverage? Considering they don't do 2 legs in the same country like in TAR 18. 2 legs in China, 2 legs in India, 2 legs in Australia... -_-
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I personally don't think they will visit South America this season. South America has, so far I know, never been visited two seasons in a row. If they do Africa, I think it will be Morocco, and just for one or two legs. So I think this season has a high possibility of getting three continents, or they have to visit Australia from Singapore on.
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Happy that there not going to spend 5 legs in Asia again, if you are right Joab... I mean, 5 in Asia? such a bore :stare
Still have no clue where leg 4 will be yet, but I hope that in leg 5 they go to Africa. There are so many awesome places in Africa. I predict that if they go to Africa, they will have 3 legs, and visit 2 countries. EITHER
Leg 5. Developing, new country on the east coast (Ivory Coast!)
Leg 6. Same
Leg 7. Egypt
(Vice Versa)
or
Leg 5. South Africa
Leg 6. Developing new country anywhere (I dont mind
Leg 7. Same
This is because I believe (a) for such a prominent african nation, it is insulting that South Africa hasn't been visited since season 7 and has only had 2 pit stops. It was also showcased really well in TARAus, and shows that there are new south african provinces waiting for a visit.
Egypt is the same - Hasn't been visited in a while. A bit of civil uprest there tho so I doubt we will see it, unfortunately.
After Africa, they will head to europe for a either the remaining legs, or have a few there and then pop over to central america/canada for the penultimate leg. I have a feeling they want to rest south america, and use it for the last few legs of TAR 22, similar to the way they used it in the awesome TAR 18, except prolonged
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I think that WRP does not look at Asia as a whole continent, but as different regions. Asia is too massive to be considered as "1 place" compared to South America. WRP tries to visit different regions/cultures.
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I think that WRP does not look at Asia as a whole continent, but as different regions. Asia is too massive to be considered as "1 place" compared to South America. WRP tries to visit different regions/cultures.
I've never thought about it that way Jimmer, but its a good theory - I guess this explains for the number of times asia has been visited. What would you divide asia into?
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I don't think they'll visit Egypt, with the Mubarak sentencing the people are MAD. Demonstrations in big cities will disrupt the race course. As for Middle East, if they do visit it again this season, it's most likely the same old country (Qatar, Kuwait, Oman) since they're proven to be more stable than others.
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Qatar hasn't been visited
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I think that WRP does not look at Asia as a whole continent, but as different regions. Asia is too massive to be considered as "1 place" compared to South America. WRP tries to visit different regions/cultures.
I've never thought about it that way Jimmer, but its a good theory - I guess this explains for the number of times asia has been visited. What would you divide asia into?
JordanJones123,
It is a good theory but it does not explain the number of times Asia has been visited. Here are the land areas of the continents as % of the world total of 57.3 million square miles:
Asia 30.0%
Africa 20.3%
North America 16.3%
South America 12.0%
Antarctica 8.9%
Europe 6.7%
Australia/Oceania 5.2%
To interpret what this means you have to have a qualitative sense of where Amazing Races have been (a quantitative approach is possible for anyone with a lot of time to burn). I think Asia is represented at about 30% of all Amazing Race legs. I think Africa is underrepresented at about 20.3%. North America has a major underrepresentation at 16.3%. South America is represented at about 12%. Europe is the one continent that has huge overrepresentation at 6.7%. Australia/Oceania is likely overrepresented at 5.2%. Antarctica has never been visited, so it is underrepresented.
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Wouldn't it be more conducive to analyze the continents by population or even by economy, as that motivates infrastructure, transport, lodging, possible financial incentive, etc.? In that respect the division of legs is expected (more legs in Europe than in Africa, more legs in Asia than in South America and so on).
Also, I think we'll have a visit to Russia this year, especially if we're still in Asia in leg 4. It could end up being the inverse of TAR 14, with Asia - Asian Russia - Europe.
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Peach, It's obvious that there are many wishlists being submitted. Where else do posters have to put them? Perhaps you opening a new thread just for them would be a good way to handle them.
Oh WHAT a good idea. :lol:
3+ years and counting:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15213.0.html
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Well technically, they were still predicting.... :)
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Wouldn't it be more conducive to analyze the continents by population or even by economy, as that motivates infrastructure, transport, lodging, possible financial incentive, etc.? In that respect the division of legs is expected (more legs in Europe than in Africa, more legs in Asia than in South America and so on).
Also, I think we'll have a visit to Russia this year, especially if we're still in Asia in leg 4. It could end up being the inverse of TAR 14, with Asia - Asian Russia - Europe.
Zach,
It sure sound good, but then what would the result be?
For example if you apportion Amazing Race legs by population then here are the abbreviated results:
China 19.2%
India 17.25%
US 4.47%
Indonesia 3.39%
Brazil 2.74%
Pakistan 2.56%
Nigeria 2.32%
Russia 2.04%
Bangladesh 2.03%
Japan 1.82%
Mexico 1.6%
Philippines 1.32%
Vietnam 1.25%
Ethiopia 1.2%
Egypt 1.17%
Germany 1.17%
Iran 1.09%
Turkey 1.06%
countries listed as #21 to #240 the remainder, each with <1.0%
So, would you want an Amazing Race that visited China one out of every 5 legs (about double the historical amount) and India one out of every 6 legs (also about double the historical amount)? I wouldn't.
I think a good argument can be made (by me in a previous post) that land area is a reasonable proxy for numbers of Amazing Race legs per country. It's not perfect, but it's close enough. None of the other measures you have suggested are very easy to measure and translate into Amazing Race leg count.
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My prediction is that they when to some remote part of Russia for Leg 4 where there is no Internet (or Internet connection is poor) so we have no spoilers. And for Leg 5, maybe they when to some part of Scandinavia where there are few people and so little spoilers.
We should see the teams soon when Leg 6 and Leg 7 begin filming.
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My prediction is Maldives for Leg 4. It fits geographically where the race would be heading, and it's somewhere that there wouldn't be a lot of people posting/tweeting/FB'ing spoilers, I would imagine.
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Yeah, we're due for our every-fourth-season visit to Russia. :P
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My prediction is Maldives for Leg 4. It fits geographically where the race would be heading, and it's somewhere that there wouldn't be a lot of people posting/tweeting/FB'ing spoilers, I would imagine.
Maldives is a huge tourist location. probably lots of people w/phones for tweeting.
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Peach, It's obvious that there are many wishlists being submitted. Where else do posters have to put them? Perhaps you opening a new thread just for them would be a good way to handle them.
Oh WHAT a good idea. :lol:
3+ years and counting:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15213.0.html
:lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Anyway, I remembered learning in Geog that Istanbul is the only city in the world lying on two continent, Asia and Europe.
So... can we assume they skipped the whole Africa.. or can they actually go back down again after (Istanbul.. leg 4?) and rumoured (leg 5 AND/OR 6?). I don't think so right.. they're more likely to do 2 to 3 legs in Europe, 2 legs in South America.. then back to USA?
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I predict we will have a 3 continent race, and maby a leg in the Carribean or Central America
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I think they won't visit Africa this season...
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Now that they are in Moscow, I think it's a good possibility they go to Scandinavia. Then into Europe. With 5 legs left, 4 not counting the last in the U.S., another in Russia or former Soviet Union country, 1 or 2 in Scandinavia, then Europe.
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I think they won't visit Africa this season...
I think they will. :tup:
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I think they won't visit Africa this season...
I think they will. :tup:
me too, and I'm thinking that Africa will be the last continent to visit for TAR 21 after Europe and the best and even the safest country to get there is hopefully they'll visit to Cape Verde Island as the newest country to feature it. Then their final destination is either to Washington, Boston or New Orleans. :)
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i PREDICT TAR21 will finish off like this
Leg 1 (United States - China)
Leg 2 (China - Indonesia)
Leg 3 (Indonesia)
Leg 4 (Indonesia - Bangladesh)
Leg 5 (Bangladesh)
Leg 6 (Bangladesh - Turkey)
Leg 7 (Turkey - Russia)
Leg 8 (Russia - Latvia)
Leg 9 (Latvia - Spain)
Leg 10 (Spain)
Leg 11 (Spain - Morocco)
Leg 12 (Morocco - United States)
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I think they won't visit Africa this season...
I think they will. :tup:
Just for scope, there are direct flights to the US from Cairo, Casablanca, Accra, Dakar, Johannesburg, and I think Cape Town and Addis Ababa. Since these flights are mainly toward New York or Washington, they could go just about anywhere with only a single connection.
Or if they want to go to DC while I'm visiting school that would be cool too.
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I hope Iceland is visited again, and if so it would be good place for the 11th leg (penultimate leg)
Then the Final Leg would have teams fly nonstop direct on Icelandair to these cities in the US: (in parenthesis was the last time city was visited on final leg)
-Boston
-Denver (TAR9)
-Minneapolis
-New York City/JFK (TAR10)
-Orlando/Sanford
-Seattle (TAR3)
-Washington/Dulles
The reason I predict Iceland would be the penultimate leg is due to the fact it was last visited on TAR6, most of that visit was mainly in the countryside where they camped out on the glacier. Reykjavik the capital city was never visited thats my reason.
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mjriches,
I think you have a terrific idea there. Iceland is a perfect location for the last stop. However, there are only 2 U.S. destination cities are feasible due to nonstop flights. I do not believe that World Race Productions will choose somewhere where it has to be connecting flights. So that eliminates Orlando, Washington-IAD and Chicago (which you did not have but which was the reverse direction in AR6).
Since WRP is unlikely to land a finale in the U.S. late afternoon, here are unlikely-to-be-used nonstop flights from Reykjavik to:
New York JFK Icelandair 615 1700 1900
Minneapolis Icelandair 657 1645 1805
Denver Icelandair 671 1645 1840
Seattle Icelandair 681 1700 1845
That leaves these 2 flights as the prime possibilities if Iceland is the penultimate leg of AR21:
New York JFK Icelandair 613 1030 1230
Boson Icelandair 635 1030 1205
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So far I think this a route:
Leg 1 - China
Leg 2 - Indonesia
Leg 3 - Indonesia
Leg 4 - Asian Country
leg 5 - Bangladesh
Leg 6 - Turkey
Leg 7 - Russia
Leg 8 - Russia
Leg 9 - European Country
Leg 10 - Netherlands
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I have a hunch that historic patterns of non-usage (except for AR8) will be overturned by AR21 visiting Central America. There are international airports here:
Belize
Guatemala City
San Salvador
Honduras
Nicaragua
Costa Rica
and of course Panama City
There are no direct flights from Amsterdam to any of these except (as we know from AR19) Panama City. The one flight per day AMS PTY is KL757 1310 1710. However, I don't think that a twice visited country will be visited a third time. I think that one of Guatemala, San Salvador, Honduras or Nicaragua, followed by a visit to Belize (where WRP had everything set up for an earlier Amazing Race but had to reroute it).
To continue this line of thinking back into the United States, there are only 3 airports which appear to have nonstop flights on Saturdays, Miami, Houston and DFW. None of them have morning arrivals; all of them arrive in mid-afternoon:
BZE MIA AA2180 1120 1530
BZE MIA AA2104 1420 1825
BZE IAH UA5478 1125 1459
BZE IAH UA1405 1248 1624
BZE DFW AA2146 1230 1630
So that leads me back to San Salvador as a maybe better airport to leave Central America from.
That leads to these further analyses of flights from San Salvador, which are quite superior to those from Belize in earlier arrivals:
SAL MIA TA310 0855 1335
SAL IAH UA1467 0620 1032
SAL IAH TA424 0855 1305
SAL DFW TA440 0844 1304
SAL DFW A1998 0820 1250
SAL LAX TA422 1057 1327
There are additional afternoon flights but the same logic as above leads me to ignore them.
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mjriches,
I think you have a terrific idea there. Iceland is a perfect location for the last stop. However, there are only 2 U.S. destination cities are feasible due to nonstop flights. I do not believe that World Race Productions will choose somewhere where it has to be connecting flights. So that eliminates Orlando, Washington-IAD and Chicago (which you did not have but which was the reverse direction in AR6).
Since WRP is unlikely to land a finale in the U.S. late afternoon, here are unlikely-to-be-used nonstop flights from Reykjavik to:
New York JFK Icelandair 615 1700 1900
Minneapolis Icelandair 657 1645 1805
Denver Icelandair 671 1645 1840
Seattle Icelandair 681 1700 1845
That leaves these 2 flights as the prime possibilities if Iceland is the penultimate leg of AR21:
New York JFK Icelandair 613 1030 1230
Boson Icelandair 635 1030 1205
Chicago was left off the list because Icelandair doesn't fly there. I was only using current direct flights only.
-Also another possible penultimate leg would be Cape Verde. Off the Northwest African coast, it would also be plausible because there is one flight direct to Boston from Praia on TACV Airlines.
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They use Nethelands leg to change continent every time:
S4:Europe-Asia(India)
S12:Europe-Africa( Burkina Faso)
S15:Asia(Dubai)-Europe
S19:Asia-Central America(Panama)
So I predict next legs of TAR21:
Leg10:a new country(central america)
Leg11:Canada
Leg12:USA