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Title: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 10, 2012, 06:32:27 AM
Title find thanks to LoveRocked!
 
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f392/wave26/episode.jpg)

 
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Challenges on Season 20 include: ,....The competitors will also ...search King Ludwig's quarters in the German castle that was the inspiration for the castle in "Sleeping Beauty."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/25/the-amazing-race-season-20-cast_n_1231000.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/25/the-amazing-race-season-20-cast_n_1231000.html)
 
 
TEMPERS RISE AS TEMPERATURES DROP WHEN TEAMS VISIT GERMANY IN SEARCH OF SLEEPING BEAUTY’S CASTLE, ON “THE AMAZING RACE,” SUNDAY, MARCH 18
 
 
   CHEAT TWEET: It’s a fairytale themed leg of #AmazingRace on Sun, 3/18, 8pmET/PT & 1 Racer thinks his Teammate is the #BigBadWolf http://bit.ly/yu3kKV (http://bit.ly/yu3kKV)
 
 
“Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence (Bavaria, Germany)” – Teams scour King Ludwig’s quarters in the same castle that served as the inspiration for Sleeping Beauty’s castle, and tempers flare during one Team’s walk through a snowy labyrinth, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 18 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host. 
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 10, 2012, 06:35:22 AM
PREVIEW!!
 
http://www.youtube.com/v/U8KdZxHwqns?version=3&hl
 
Promo 1!!
 
http://www.youtube.com/v/xgju6w9UPBQ?version=3&hl

 
 
Promo 2!!
 
http://www.youtube.com/v/DEkZSwrRGPQ?version=3&hl
 
 
Promo 3!!
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/v/R2Fkk0M6fvU?version=3&hl
 
 
10 sec promo!!
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/v/gGQ6-S-deiU?version=3&hl
 
 
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 10, 2012, 06:35:43 AM
saved for Timeline
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 10, 2012, 06:36:00 AM
In haste: Speculative Summary
 
Teams travel to Bavaria: Fairy Tale theme. Gnomes  :gnome . Vanessa and Ralph fight. Snow.
 
(Task order is SPECULATIVE)
 
Where does the GNOME come from?? Curling or somewhere else?? (seen before castle, before Detour A, at Detour B. Present at RB)
 
Drive your Ford to Unterammergau (location=spec) to ice rink for RB CURLING with a gnome. :lol:
 
    seen: JJ doing curling
 
Drive to Oberammergau:
 
Mark and Bopper dress in traditional clothes and yodel-lay-hee-oh! for a speedbump
 
Detour A: Groom a beard to (spec=match the gnome) to the satisfaction of the World Champ Beard meister
    seen: Joey and Danny, Dave and Rachel
 
Detour B: Collect a basket of gingerbread at (spec=Red Riding Hood House --Thanks WP!); carry it on foot to Hansel and Gretel House (THANKS to WP!), complete the roof on a gingerbread house, collect clue from the witch.

seen: Mark and Bopper, Rachel and Brendon, Stacy and Kerri>>M/B finishes first
 
(Placement of castle location in the sequence is SPEC)
Travel to Neuschwanstein Castle
 
Some teams travel on foot, others up by horse carriage (spec); Vanessa fights with Ralph (spec: due to walking vs riding choice)
 
Scour Ludwig's quarters for ??clue?? (unknown)
 
Travel to Pitstop: unknown: Castle grounds?? Another Ludwig location??
 
At risk: Stacy and Kerri and Joey and Danny (not seen after this episode)
 
Safe: everyone else (seen in future locations)
 
 
 
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 10, 2012, 06:36:18 AM
Saved for MAPS
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 11, 2012, 11:35:57 PM
preview up!! :)
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: supah on March 11, 2012, 11:57:53 PM
I SAW A TRAVELOCITY ROAMING GNOME NEXT TO KERRI IN THE CAR IN THE PREVIEW  :jam:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 11, 2012, 11:59:48 PM
Gemeinde Unterammergau (http://www.gemeinde-unterammergau.de/) is easy enough  :lol: ; the building shouldn't take much longer. (map (http://www.internetstadtplan.com/Unterammergau/revilakmap.html))
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 12, 2012, 12:08:32 AM
Lots of our little Gnomes around!

Preview CAPS!


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Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 12, 2012, 12:19:25 AM
It is an exact match?? Good job Slowhatch!
Click to enlarge
 
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Preview/th_20-5-preview-caps0067.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Preview/20-5-preview-caps0067.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Preview/th_20-5-preview-caps0087.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Preview/20-5-preview-caps0087.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: eddiethejet on March 12, 2012, 05:05:07 AM
the man with the moustache that are messing with kinda looks like the travelocity roaming gnome if you ask me..just sayin.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: ZouLy on March 12, 2012, 05:13:15 AM
I will spec the Gemeinde Unterammergau is a Detour Location...

Country Music or Moustache something...  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: kevin2012 on March 12, 2012, 06:06:48 AM
is it just me or does the man whom Joey and Danny have to groom has a beard that looks near-identical to the travelocity-roaming gnome's beard? :lol:

Could that be its purpose in this leg? groom a man's beard to resemble the gnome's?
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: ZouLy on March 12, 2012, 06:13:56 AM
is it just me or does the man whom Joey and Danny have to groom has a beard that looks near-identical to the travelocity-roaming gnome's beard? :lol:

Could that be its purpose in this leg? groom a man's beard to resemble the gnome's?


Eddie also thought about that  ;)


the man with the moustache that are messing with kinda looks like the travelocity roaming gnome if you ask me..just sayin.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: ZouLy on March 12, 2012, 06:30:44 AM
Do you guys have any idea on what's Brendon and Rachel doing in Active Route Info inside the Castle??

There's a comparison of the "Candy House", the one for display near the witch, and the one that brenchel is working at...

are they trying to uncover them from the ice??  or decorate them to make it just like the example... ???

and if you can identify the tools that Brenchel used, that might help too!!  ;)


(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/TAR%20Live%20Sightings/20-5-preview-caps0310.jpg)  (http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/TAR%20Live%20Sightings/20-5-preview-caps0318.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: weihen on March 12, 2012, 06:33:01 AM
Do you guys have any idea on what's Brendon and Rachel doing in Active Route Info inside the Castle??

There's a comparison of the "Candy House", the one for display near the witch, and the one that brenchel is working at...

are they trying to uncover them from the ice??  or decorate them to make it just like the example... ???

and if you can identify the tools that Brenchel used, that might help too!!  ;)


(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/TAR%20Live%20Sightings/20-5-preview-caps0310.jpg)  (http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/TAR%20Live%20Sightings/20-5-preview-caps0318.jpg)
I think it is Vanessa/Ralph?
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: ZouLy on March 12, 2012, 06:40:02 AM
I think it is Vanessa/Ralph?

I'm confident it's brenchel, Vanessa's face, however (didn't mean to be offense) it's not that white..
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Prama on March 12, 2012, 06:55:04 AM
This is my spec:

Detour: Recreate a house using provided materials OR mustache something
RB: still unknown
Speed Bump: yodelling - for Mark and Bopper.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Preview/20-5-preview-caps0318.jpg)

And I believe it's Brenchel. Look at the guy. Ralph is bigger than Brendon. So I guess it's Brendon.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Prophet on March 12, 2012, 07:47:04 AM
That's definitely Rachel's face :P

If the beard task has to do with gnomes then it can't be a detour. The gnome task is always mandatory.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 12, 2012, 07:50:39 AM
Brendon: Coat from an ep 4 confessional

(thumbnails--click to enlarge)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Preview/th_df8ac1db.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Preview/df8ac1db.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Preview/th_20-5-preview-caps0118.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Preview/20-5-preview-caps0118.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Preview/th_20-5-preview-caps0325.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Preview/20-5-preview-caps0325.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 12, 2012, 08:06:51 AM
Do you guys have any idea on what's Brendon and Rachel doing in Active Route Info inside the Castle??

There's a comparison of the "Candy House", the one for display near the witch, and the one that brenchel is working at...

are they trying to uncover them from the ice??  or decorate them to make it just like the example... ???

and if you can identify the tools that Brenchel used, that might help too!!  ;)


(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/TAR%20Live%20Sightings/20-5-preview-caps0310.jpg)  (http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/TAR%20Live%20Sightings/20-5-preview-caps0318.jpg)

1) I don't think this is an active route marker?? Remember we also have the search King Ludwig's bedroom from the press releases (see post 1)

2) Why do you say inside the castle? It looks like a neighborhood to me...maybe in Unterammergau?? Which might make it more likely that music is a Detour option as well, if it is near the pub.

3) I think they are just decorating a Gingerbread House (pretty common to do with kids at Christmas)...maybe they are matching the house they are in front of, as well as the witch's example??

4) Remember that Phil did not mention a SpeedBumop to M/B...so we don't know yet if there IS one this season..
 
5) Love the match the gnome moustache spec, that looks spot on!!

 
 
http://www.youtube.com/v/YEMQ9wRy_gA?version=3&hl




Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: David on March 12, 2012, 08:36:17 AM
This leg should be <3. All tasks seem enjoyable for viewers!
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 12, 2012, 09:19:28 AM
The 2 detour options occur at the Hansel and Gretel house in Oberammergua - hence the witch with a pot and the building of the gingerbread house...

For those not familiar with the story:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hansel_and_Gretel

The other detour option is inside the house - compare the murals on the outside of the house with those behind the singers...
(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/10879532.jpg)

Strange coincidence that they would feature a story that was also used in "Once Upon A Time" which is in direct competion with TAR.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 12, 2012, 09:22:09 AM
The "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" quote is probably in reference to the witch.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: cattychic on March 12, 2012, 12:55:41 PM
The "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" quote is probably in reference to the witch.

Ha , yes that's probably a more likely option , at first I thought maybe Vanessa said it about Rachel lol.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Prophet on March 12, 2012, 01:40:42 PM
TEMPERS RISE AS TEMPERATURES DROP WHEN TEAMS VISIT GERMANY IN SEARCH OF SLEEPING BEAUTY’S CASTLE, ON “THE AMAZING RACE,” SUNDAY, MARCH 18

CHEAT TWEET: It’s a fairytale themed leg of #AmazingRace on Sun, 3/18, 8pmET/PT & 1 Racer thinks his Teammate is the #BigBadWolf http://bit.ly/yu3kKV

“Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence (Bavaria, Germany)” – Teams scour King Ludwig’s quarters in the same castle that served as the inspiration for Sleeping Beauty’s castle, and tempers flare during one Team’s walk through a snowy labyrinth, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 18 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host. 
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TARFansurvivor on March 12, 2012, 01:45:43 PM
I really hope that The Kehlsteinhaus (in English-speaking countries also known as the Eagle's Nest) is the pitstop, that would be so epic?  :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TARFansurvivor on March 12, 2012, 01:47:51 PM
TEMPERS RISE AS TEMPERATURES DROP WHEN TEAMS VISIT GERMANY IN SEARCH OF SLEEPING BEAUTY’S CASTLE, ON “THE AMAZING RACE,” SUNDAY, MARCH 18

CHEAT TWEET: It’s a fairytale themed leg of #AmazingRace on Sun, 3/18, 8pmET/PT & 1 Racer thinks his Teammate is the #BigBadWolf http://bit.ly/yu3kKV

“Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence (Bavaria, Germany)” – Teams scour King Ludwig’s quarters in the same castle that served as the inspiration for Sleeping Beauty’s castle, and tempers flare during one Team’s walk through a snowy labyrinth, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 18 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.


So much looking forward to this leg!!! :hrt: :hrt: :hrt: :hrt: :hrt: :hrt:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Flamant on March 12, 2012, 01:59:26 PM
Yay! I'm so eager for this leg! An Alp leg (again! :yess:) never fails to impress me :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TarJunkie999 on March 12, 2012, 01:59:35 PM
 :yess:  Thanks to the help from our new friend Joost Schloemer, and his website of German Coat of Arms. He emailed me as follows:

Quote
the coat of arms is from Unterammergau,
look at  http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Wappen_Unterammergau.png&filetimestamp=20070913041816
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 12, 2012, 02:48:42 PM
I love the fact that TAR returns yet again to Bavaria, the homeland of all schnauzer breeds, but I'm waiting for TPTB to include a schnauzer in the video footage!
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Katarzyna on March 12, 2012, 03:03:30 PM
Once again, this leg looks promising. :conf:
I am impressed by the leg's designs this season so far. Such an improvement from last season.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TarJunkie999 on March 12, 2012, 03:08:20 PM
The town of Unterammergau even has a Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Unterammergau/104079052961715)   :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: apskip on March 12, 2012, 05:21:58 PM
I really hope that The Kehlsteinhaus (in English-speaking countries also known as the Eagle's Nest) is the pitstop, that would be so epic?  :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

This on its surface seems like a fine idea. However, Obersalzburg and Berchtesgaden and a long way by either road or rail from Fussen. Mountain highway 23 is the route for the western 2/3. I am going to guess than 60 kph (37 mph) would be an excellent average speed there.

The rail alternative required going all the way into Munich to transfer to the line that goes to Bertechsgaden. I believe that it too will take about 4 hours.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TarJunkie999 on March 12, 2012, 05:31:49 PM
 :lol: Just throwing this out there.  Anyone else think that this guy looks like Fritz Sendlhofer, the winner of the world championship of beards (15/05/11) held in Trondheim, Norway?  :duno:

BTW, Fritz is Austrian?!?   :ascared

Here's a link to the East Bavarian Beard and Mustache Club (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bcostbayern.de%2Findex.html&sl=de&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8)
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TarJunkie999 on March 12, 2012, 05:41:06 PM
 :lol3: I'm on a roll. this guy looks like William Preuss, the head of the same beard club.  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Declive on March 12, 2012, 07:26:03 PM
Wow guys, you are doing very well on Beard Guys Looking  :jam:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 12, 2012, 08:35:52 PM
What fun!! I have been off line all day and come home to find


1) Slowhatch and TarJunkie999 have the location locked up. :yess:

2) WP has ID'd both Detour locations!!  :hearts:

3) And not only that, TJ has the BEARDS ID'd!!!  :jam:

Y'all are fabulous, AMAZING job everyone!!


Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: choroneko on March 12, 2012, 09:32:23 PM
Amazing job TarJunkie999!!  :jam: :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 13, 2012, 07:52:21 AM
Wow, great work everyone! :<3

It seems like a very Christmas-themed leg with the gingerbread houses, the bearded people which look like Santa Claus! And we had a lot of Santas on the previous leg as well! I'm loving the fact that this race was filmed a lot closer to Christmas than usual! There's a great atmosphere with the locals, or so it seems! :colors
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TARismyfavoriteshow on March 13, 2012, 08:27:10 AM
Seems like a really enjoyable leg. I tried to find info on the labyrinth that was mentioned, but couldn't find anything in the area. I'm sure someone else could though, y'all are awesome.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: choroneko on March 13, 2012, 09:58:59 AM
Wow, great work everyone! :<3

It seems like a very Christmas-themed leg with the gingerbread houses, the bearded people which look like Santa Claus! And we had a lot of Santas on the previous leg as well! I'm loving the fact that this race was filmed a lot closer to Christmas than usual! There's a great atmosphere with the locals, or so it seems! :colors

I think it's a fairy tale theme leg. The castle, evil witch, bearded man as gnome, the gingerbread house reference to Hansel & Gretel.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Prophet on March 13, 2012, 11:40:46 AM
New promo proves you right choroneko! http://www.cbs.com/shows/amazing_race/video/2209523800/the-amazing-race-uglier-than-a-mud-rail-fence

Curling with a gnome!
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 13, 2012, 12:58:20 PM
Gnome curling - awesome, just awesome :lol3:

http://www.youtube.com/v/JeWRE4BL4Js

Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TARFansurvivor on March 13, 2012, 01:14:12 PM
I really hope that The Kehlsteinhaus (in English-speaking countries also known as the Eagle's Nest) is the pitstop, that would be so epic?  :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

This on its surface seems like a fine idea. However, Obersalzburg and Berchtesgaden and a long way by either road or rail from Fussen. Mountain highway 23 is the route for the western 2/3. I am going to guess than 60 kph (37 mph) would be an excellent average speed there.

The rail alternative required going all the way into Munich to transfer to the line that goes to Bertechsgaden. I believe that it too will take about 4 hours.
Thank you! So sad that they not, go there could have been so cool. Just like when they have Salzburg (Villa Trapp) for the pitstop. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Jimmer on March 13, 2012, 03:11:22 PM
We have so far this leg...

Sleeping Beauty's Castle
Gingerbread House
Styling a Man's Beard
Yodeling
A snowy labrynth
Gnome Curling

Seems like a great episode :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: cattychic on March 13, 2012, 03:17:21 PM
Are there any detail's out there on flight's , sorry i'm still relatively new and learning to navigate this site.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: LoveRocked on March 13, 2012, 03:36:05 PM
It's pretty interesting! I can't wait!! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Declive on March 13, 2012, 06:19:01 PM
The snow labirynt will be AWESOME
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Declive on March 13, 2012, 08:03:43 PM
I'm thinking :

Route Info :
Sleeping Beauty's Castle

Detour :
Build or Beard

Speed Bumg :
Yodeling

Route Info :
A snowy labrynth

Roadblock :
Gnome Curling
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Prophet on March 13, 2012, 08:05:38 PM
The gnome task is before the detour because Brenchel has it with them on the table.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Declive on March 13, 2012, 08:10:54 PM
Sorry , i was just posting that tasks, i obviously don't know their order lol.

I'm thinking :

Route Info :

Some place...

Speed Bumb :
Yodeling

Route Info :
A snowy labrynth

Roadblock :
Gnome Curling

Route Info :
Sleeping Beauty's Castle

Detour :
Build or Beard

Pit Stop.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Jimmer on March 13, 2012, 08:22:20 PM
Remember that it is not CONFIRMED that there is a Speed Bumb. Second, I don't think the snowy labyrinth is a task, just an indicator of a team getting lost (spec).

“Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence (Bavaria, Germany)” – Teams scour King Ludwig’s quarters in the same castle that served as the inspiration for Sleeping Beauty’s castle, and tempers flare during one Team’s walk through a snowy labyrinth, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 18 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Jimmer on March 13, 2012, 08:26:55 PM
Sorry , i was just posting that tasks, i obviously don't know their order lol.

I'm thinking :

Route Info :

Some place...

Speed Bumb :
Yodeling

Route Info :
A snowy labrynth

Roadblock :
Gnome Curling

Route Info :
Sleeping Beauty's Castle

Detour :
Build or Beard

Pit Stop.

The first route info I think is Sleeping Beauty's Castle where they are searching for a Travelocity gnome (pure spec). Remember that the Speed Bumb is not confirmed!
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Zack. on March 13, 2012, 09:12:50 PM
There's a brief shot of Mark/Bopper dealing with the witch in that clip. Since we've got multiple teams at the gingerbread task (Brenchel, Mark/Bopper, another team that is maybe Art/JJ) and the beard task (Joey/Danny, Dave/Rachel, Nary/Jaime), I think it's a good bet that the yodeling is a Speed Bump.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Jimmer on March 13, 2012, 09:24:57 PM
There's a brief shot of Mark/Bopper dealing with the witch in that clip. Since we've got multiple teams at the gingerbread task (Brenchel, Mark/Bopper, another team that is maybe Art/JJ) and the beard task (Joey/Danny, Dave/Rachel, Nary/Jaime), I think it's a good bet that the yodeling is a Speed Bump.

It's a good bet, but the Speed Bumb is not confirmed.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 13, 2012, 09:28:35 PM
The labrynth may be a reference to the paths that lead up the hill to Neuschwanstein Castle. If you use google maps you can see a maze of roads surrounding the castle.
And btw, it's bump, not bumb.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: hakushu8 on March 13, 2012, 10:34:17 PM
I loved the fact that the narrator of the new preview opened with "Once Upon a Time...", as that is the show that is currently competing with TAR in the Sunday 7PM timeslot. :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2012, 12:22:59 AM
PROMO 1 caps!!

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0000.jpg)1(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0087.jpg)2(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0151.jpg)3(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0187.jpg)4(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0202.jpg)5(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0211.jpg)6(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0266.jpg)7(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0303.jpg)8(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0355.jpg)9(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0369.jpg)10(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0375.jpg)11(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0411.jpg)12(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0455.jpg)13(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0515.jpg)14(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0567.jpg)15(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0610.jpg)16(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0654.jpg)17(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0783.jpg)18(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0867.jpg)19(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0917.jpg)20(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0918.jpg)21
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Reilly Queens on March 14, 2012, 12:31:05 AM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0515.jpg)

Thats the road up to the castle, I know it since I've walked it up myself :lol:

They have a bus that goes up to it, they have a horse drawn carriage, or you could walk up(all end at that road pictured)
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2012, 12:31:31 AM
Hope someone can find the rink!

There is a BIG one in Fussen (BLZ) and another in on Malensteinweg in Unterammergau....
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 14, 2012, 01:37:47 AM
Regarding flights, the speculation thread has a discussion going about maybe teams drove from Turin; appears driving might have been faster.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 14, 2012, 01:47:31 AM
Wow! Gnome curling is one of the most creative gnome-related tasks we have ever seen, right behind the Swiss chocolate gnomes! :colors
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Prophet on March 14, 2012, 08:35:50 AM
Malensteinweg in Unterammergau....

Bless you! :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 14, 2012, 09:11:26 AM
Malensteinweg in Unterammergau....

Bless you! :lol3:

If Bopper & Mark couldn't pronounce 'Lingotto', then I am really looking forward to seeing how they will pronounce these terms! :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 14, 2012, 09:16:49 AM
Hope someone can find the rink!

There is a BIG one in Fussen (BLZ) and another in on Malensteinweg in Unterammergau....
From a logistical point of view, I think the outdoor rink on Malensteinweg in Oberammergau would work best. Its walking distance from the Hansel and Gretel house.
I can't find any photos of it in action though.
The Oberammergau web site says the outdoor rink is behind the tennis courts.
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb365/walkingpneumonia/OberRinks.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2012, 11:26:58 AM
Thanks WP!!

Here are some pics of the BLZ in Fussn...I don't see any shiny red??

http://www.blz.fuessen.de/ (http://www.blz.fuessen.de/)

But caps 10 and 11 do seem to be inside to me ... so :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TarJunkie999 on March 14, 2012, 11:38:52 AM
 :lol:  Maybe Fussen is in contention, as it's close to the castle.  Maybe more contemporary buildings in Fussen.   :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2012, 11:44:26 AM
Hmmmm....

This site for the Oberammergau Youth Hostel says:

 
Quote
Ice arena and curling next to the youth hostel


http://www.jugendherberge.de/jh/bayern/oberammergau/freizeit/05681.shtml.en (http://www.jugendherberge.de/jh/bayern/oberammergau/freizeit/05681.shtml.en)
 
Surely some backpacker took a pic?? :pull
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 14, 2012, 11:47:03 AM
If you're searching be sure to add Eisstockschießen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_stock_sport) to your search terms. Canadian-style curling isn't as popular in Bavaria (biggest difference--no sweepers).
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2012, 12:15:33 PM
I'm searching, lol!! Thanks!!

Here are some closeups from the caps in case the backgrounds help us??

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/e9893083.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/23562128.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/9a4f2576.jpg)

Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2012, 12:49:03 PM
Just for fun, because it made me laugh!!
 
http://www.youtube.com/v/j__kZwOk4Eg?version=3&amp;hl




Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 14, 2012, 12:49:32 PM
There is a smaller pub/theater in Oberammergau where they do "folkloric" shows (not the large one where the Passion play is done) that is the probable site of the speedbump. They seem to have a lot of different backdrops...
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb365/walkingpneumonia/OberTheater.jpg)

So not in the Hansel and Gretel house as I previously thought.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: apskip on March 14, 2012, 02:01:31 PM
I am saying that is unlikely, Walkingpneumonia. My rationale is that the distance is 17 miles each way, times 2 is 34 miles. That is a lot of time in transport before even considering the task itself.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2012, 02:19:39 PM
17 miles from where, apskip? ???
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 14, 2012, 02:32:57 PM
I am saying that is unlikely, Walkingpneumonia. My rationale is that the distance is 17 miles each way, times 2 is 34 miles. That is a lot of time in transport before even considering the task itself.
Depends on the order of tasks, how teams get to Germany and if there really is a speedbump. We know that the teams have a gnome at Neuschwanstein Castle.
So what if they:
fly to Munich (or drive to Oberammergau from Turin)
some general task where they get the gnome
drive to Oberammergau for the speedbump, detour (curl the gnome, or decorate the gingerbread house)
drive to Unterammergau for the roadblock (trim the beard)
drive to Neuschwanstein Castle for the pitstop
 
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2012, 02:34:39 PM
What does this look like to y'all?? (Besides Brendon falling down...)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Preview/20-5-preview-caps0103.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Jimmer on March 14, 2012, 02:47:54 PM
I am saying that is unlikely, Walkingpneumonia. My rationale is that the distance is 17 miles each way, times 2 is 34 miles. That is a lot of time in transport before even considering the task itself.
Depends on the order of tasks, how teams get to Germany and if there really is a speedbump. We know that the teams have a gnome at Neuschwanstein Castle.
So what if they:
fly to Munich (or drive to Oberammergau from Turin)
some general task where they get the gnome
drive to Oberammergau for the speedbump, detour (curl the gnome, or decorate the gingerbread house)
drive to Unterammergau for the roadblock (trim the beard)
drive to Neuschwanstein Castle for the pitstop

I'm pretty sure curling the gnome is the roadblock because only JJ was seen doing it, and trim the beard is the detour because both Joey and Danny are doing it.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 14, 2012, 03:02:20 PM
I am saying that is unlikely, Walkingpneumonia. My rationale is that the distance is 17 miles each way, times 2 is 34 miles. That is a lot of time in transport before even considering the task itself.
Depends on the order of tasks, how teams get to Germany and if there really is a speedbump. We know that the teams have a gnome at Neuschwanstein Castle.
So what if they:
fly to Munich (or drive to Oberammergau from Turin)
some general task where they get the gnome
drive to Oberammergau for the speedbump, detour (curl the gnome, or decorate the gingerbread house)
drive to Unterammergau for the roadblock (trim the beard)
drive to Neuschwanstein Castle for the pitstop

I'm pretty sure curling the gnome is the roadblock because only JJ was seen doing it, and trim the beard is the detour because both Joey and Danny are doing it.

Perhaps the gnome curling is the roadblock, but there are 2 gnomes set up to curl - one for each team member?
You're correct about the trim the beard thing - its definitely not a roadblock - so its either the other half of a detour or a general task.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: cougarspy on March 14, 2012, 03:18:05 PM
Is it possible that the teams take an overnight train from Turin to Fussen, Germany?  I was checking out train travel, and you can prebook that trip.  This would also act as an equalizer for the teams.

I see that it may have been identified that the Ice Rink is in Fussen (Roadblock - Curling, where teams get their traveling gnome).


Hohenschwangau Castle, Schwangau, Germany is about 12 minutes away, so is the castle a Route Info versus a pitstop?  And this is where the snowy labyrinth occurs (walking up to the castle)?

Gemeinde Unterammergau and Oberammergau is a half hour from the castle, as we see teams driving with the gnome.

And the pitstop is near those towns?

Just a thought, since driving from Turin, Italy to Fussen is a 6 hour drive and has multiple TOLLS.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Prophet on March 14, 2012, 03:22:25 PM
:welcome2: to RFF, cougarspy!
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: cougarspy on March 14, 2012, 03:24:26 PM
:welcome2: to RFF, cougarspy!

Thank you Prophet!  I've been lurking for years.  I enjoy RRF because you guys really know your TAR and I love it.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 14, 2012, 03:35:44 PM
I'm wondering if we can lean away from teams flying because, we know teams were seen in Rome at the airport, but the only live sighting we had about Germany, as I recall was because production had staffers flying from South America to Germany.

This is where self-driving would make sense (or trains) because teams would be less likely to be spotted, and we're now at a point in the Race when we had nothing that was spoiled during filming. Just a thought.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 14, 2012, 03:37:26 PM
Working theory, feel free to flame away:
The lean-tos/huts for the gingerbread task are part of the campingplatz at Unterammergau and the beard task is right next door at the school. (viewpoint (http://www.geodaten.bayern.de/BayernViewer2.0/index.cgi?rw=4427100&hw=5275670&layer=Hybrid&step=0.5))
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2012, 03:44:56 PM
Oh Slowhatch!!

I was just coming to say that I think we may need to backtrack....

WE KNOW we go to Untergammerau. 100% terrain match. PLUS the coat of arms match.

I am not 100% sure we KNOW yet we go to Oberammergau.... ???

The Hansel and Gretl House does not seem to have a side yard that I can find so that may NOT be our witchy task.

And remember the Detours should be VERY close to each other.

And a speedbump should also be close by.

Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2012, 03:46:20 PM
Working theory, feel free to flame away:
The lean-tos/huts for the gingerbread task are part of the campingplatz at Unterammergau and the beard task is right next door at the school. (viewpoint (http://www.geodaten.bayern.de/BayernViewer2.0/index.cgi?rw=4427100&hw=5275670&layer=Hybrid&step=0.5))

Okay, I am game. Tell us WHY you think so please??
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 14, 2012, 04:22:40 PM
The picnic tables (if that's what they are) have a healthy layer of snow on them, so probably not temporary. That's the best match I've found so far; if somebody finds something better, I'm game.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2012, 04:30:40 PM
I like the roof shapes for sure.

But in the screencap we see two houses, a couple of hedges, and a possible red mailbox on the OTHER side of a road, and a streetlamp...can you show me where that all is on the aerial view? I am LOUSY at interpreting aerial shots. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 14, 2012, 04:42:06 PM
I don't know...is that Schulstrasse, Ammergauer, or neither? Are those private houses or public/commercial? I haven't found any decent photos of the area. Another promo would be nice.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2012, 06:50:14 PM
 :welcome: to RFF cougarspy! Glad to have you here!!


Just to clarify though, the Fussen ice rink I cannot match to the screencap....

And I think we are working on Neuschwanstein Castle not Hohenschwangau Castle?

But I think you hve nailed the big question:

Quote
so is the castle a Route Info versus a pitstop?  And this is where the snowy labyrinth occurs (walking up to the castle)?


We know teams "Search Ludwig's quarters"...I initially assumed this was the initial RI.
 
But since we see teams already carrying the gnome towards the castle...is it a search the quarters for PHIL task instead?? ???
 
Where do teams GET their gnome...that will be a help?
 
Do they get the gnome at the curling task...or somewhere else??


Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Jimmer on March 14, 2012, 07:03:49 PM
Is it possible that the clue they get at the pit start is the gnome. On second thought, they typically have to search for the gnome, but its a thought...
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2012, 07:15:33 PM
What does this look like to y'all?? (Besides Brendon falling down...)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Preview/20-5-preview-caps0103.jpg)

Asking again, lol.

Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Prophet on March 14, 2012, 07:26:55 PM
It seems like the roadblock could be at the castle because there is not one accounted for yet.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2012, 07:40:16 PM
I thought curling is the RB?? We only see JJ doing it.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 14, 2012, 10:56:06 PM
Curling could be one team member at a time, so you wouldn't see both team members curling in the same shot, and don't forget the promo editors have been really good this season taking clips out of their actual context.

In that cap with Brendon, I do notice the snow covered fences, and I suspect the roads or sidewalks are icy that day, and folks who have not lived in snow might have that problem (slipping on icy covered areas.)
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2012, 11:49:54 PM
I was really wondering if it looked like a station platform in the backfround to anyone??
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: maf on March 15, 2012, 02:12:04 AM
What does this look like to y'all?? (Besides Brendon falling down...)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Preview/20-5-preview-caps0103.jpg)

Somebody taking the fast way down a slope...
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: redskevin88 on March 15, 2012, 05:45:45 AM
What does this look like to y'all?? (Besides Brendon falling down...)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Preview/20-5-preview-caps0103.jpg)

Asking again, lol.

He's doing the roadblock. The roadblock is to slide down a slope with your butt. Holding the Travelocity Gnome is optional.  :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: David on March 15, 2012, 05:48:15 AM
I see the Curling possibly as a Active Route Info?

AND! Brendon falling? Definitely not a task, IMHO. It's just that he is as clumsy as me and he just fell by a "ramp" while holding the gnome.

BTW. If we see the curling as an Active Route Info, is the Gnome ANOTHER Route Info task??

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Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2012, 08:34:29 AM
I just want to know does this look like a train platform to anyone?? If so, it might mean we see trains!!  :lol3:
 
 :groan: :groan: :groan:

Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 15, 2012, 08:48:34 AM
I just want to know does this look like a train platform to anyone?? If so, it might mean we see trains!!  :lol3:
 
 :groan: :groan: :groan:

It looks quite possible to me, but it's hard to tell for sure! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Prophet on March 15, 2012, 11:33:28 AM

BTW. If we see the curling as an Active Route Info, is the Gnome ANOTHER Route Info task??


I thought the curling and the gnome were the same task not two different ones.

The curling could be the roadblock and the castle is an indoor pitstop. They have been making a big deal out of this castle from the very first press release though.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 15, 2012, 11:51:12 AM
To those who doubt that its the Hansel and Gretel house in Oberammergau:
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb365/walkingpneumonia/hanselandgretel.jpg)
(sorry, I know the image is large.)
BTW - I forgive the doubters...
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2012, 01:11:11 PM
Good!! Okay, that's what I needed! :kuss:

Let's look though at WHAT the H&G task is....it is a pretty long way from the Beard, and USUALLY Detour options are closer...

SO either the Gingerbread or the Beard may not be a Detour then?? One could be an Active RI?? And if the presumed speedbump (spec) is also in Oberammergau then we may need to go with Oberammergau as the Detour option.


Thoughts??

STill want to know where they GET the gnome, lol! Suppose it is something like this??

Go to Unterammergau, choose a beard, make it look like the gnome, when the beardee is satisfied, he will give you your next clue and a GNOME??
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 15, 2012, 01:17:35 PM
I just want to know does this look like a train platform to anyone?? If so, it might mean we see trains!!  :lol3:
 
 :groan: :groan: :groan:

You were close - they are across the street from a miniature golf course in Oberammergau. Looks like Brendon and Rachel are taking a rather circuitous route from the Hansel and Gretel house to the ice rink/curling task.
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb365/walkingpneumonia/BrendonFall.jpg)

BTW - I'm not sure if Brendon is carrying a gnome or the gingerbread house they just built.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2012, 01:21:31 PM
I need a MAP.   :colors
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TARismyfavoriteshow on March 15, 2012, 01:25:12 PM
I'm wondering why they seem to have that gnome with them at all the tasks. I know you must take it with you to the pitstop, but teams are carrying it to the gingerbread detour, to the castle, plus they're curling with it. It's kinda throwing me off as to figuring out where they get it.
I'm thinking the castle is not the pitstop, simply because Vanessa and Ralph and Bopper and Mark are walking there in the promo. It just seems like it's a RI.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2012, 01:33:51 PM
Oh I have it now!! The black is an icy street, not a step up to a platform!! :yess: That's what I needed!!

This is the best cap that shows what is in his arms, looks like house maybe but WHY would he carry that somewhere? ???
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: cattychic on March 15, 2012, 01:58:18 PM
Could it be that they get the gnome at the curling task , the house at the gingerbread task and have to carry these item's with them to the pitstop (somewhere in the castle) ? I'm an am amateur , so be gentle  :hrt:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 15, 2012, 02:04:14 PM
I need a MAP.   :colors

I'm the map, I'm the map, I'm the map, I'm the map, I'm the map.
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb365/walkingpneumonia/OberRoute.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TarJunkie999 on March 15, 2012, 02:49:16 PM
 :tup:  good job, WP
BTW, did you include yourself in that group of doubters?   :lol:  I recall you originally poo-poo'ed the notion.   ;)    :keeta:

Here's a side view of H&G haus.  Just confirms what you already know. 
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TARFansurvivor on March 15, 2012, 03:31:07 PM
I do not think that Neuschwanstein Castle is the pitstop, since is was the pitstop for The Amazing Race 3 leg 7. I also think that they will drive from Turin to Bavaria, to showcase Ford.
I just wonder if the pitstop is in Munich, like is was in The Amazing Race 9 leg 3. Some cool places could be Nymphenburg Palace, Olympiasee in Olympiapark or the Allianz Arena.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: SilasKTsang on March 15, 2012, 03:39:38 PM
Regarding flights, the speculation thread has a discussion going about maybe teams drove from Turin; appears driving might have been faster.

good point. it's 240 miles away. About a 4 hour drive. BUT...that would be so much to ask of these people. I could imagine people getting totally lost. 
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: SilasKTsang on March 15, 2012, 03:47:31 PM
I just want to know does this look like a train platform to anyone?? If so, it might mean we see trains!!  :lol3:
 
 :groan: :groan: :groan:

No. I can see how you would think that.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TarJunkie999 on March 15, 2012, 03:50:04 PM
 :groan:  Munich is a bit of a stretch.  How about something closer, like Linderhof Palace, in Ettal.  It's smack-dab in the middle of all the task locations, and has a Mad King Ludwig connection.  And we know how WRP likes castles/palaces for pitstops.   :lol:  But this is all speculation, and we have other threds to discuss that.  Back to spoiling.   ;)
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TARFansurvivor on March 15, 2012, 03:53:42 PM
:groan:  Munich is a bit of a stretch.  How about something closer, like Linderhof Palace, in Ettal.  It's smack-dab in the middle of all the task locations, and has a Mad King Ludwig connection.  And we know how WRP likes castles/palaces for pitstops.   :lol:  But this is all speculation, and we have other threds to discuss that.  Back to spoiling.   ;)
This site is also speculation. I think that seems like a great spec.!
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2012, 04:24:10 PM
Thanks for helping with my optical illusion! I did everything but stand on my head to look at that! :lol3:

We have NO evidence of any other locations yet...but I love the idea of Linderhof, was just reading about that one!!

And spec is fine here, this thread is to thrash out all of the Ep 5 details, spec is how we get there!
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Jimmer on March 15, 2012, 05:20:23 PM
Go to Unterammergau, choose a beard, make it look like the gnome, when the beardee is satisfied, he will give you your next clue and a GNOME??

Typically the next clue would be written on the bottom of the travelocity gnome. I have never seen a team get both a clue AND a gnome. Additionally, since we do not have any place that shows the teams do NOT have gnome, is it possible they receive the gnome at the pit start?  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: bc922 on March 15, 2012, 08:02:17 PM
CBS released a couple of new clips today:
One clip is 31 seconds long and shows Vanessa & Ralph walking (and bickering) to Neuschwanstein Castle.  In the clip, Ralph tells Vanessa, "We're three right now" -> currently in 3rd place?

The other clip is 1:21 seconds long and shows Bopper & Mark, Brendan & Rachel, and Kerri & Stacy at the gingerbread house task.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: apskip on March 15, 2012, 09:17:32 PM
Regarding flights, the speculation thread has a discussion going about maybe teams drove from Turin; appears driving might have been faster.

good point. it's 240 miles away. About a 4 hour drive. BUT...that would be so much to ask of these people. I could imagine people getting totally lost. 
SilasK,

I would love to know the source of your information from Fussen to Munich. My source says it is "86.4 miles. It takes 2 hours by train and about 1 hour and 40" minutes by car.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TAR Fanatic on March 15, 2012, 09:51:16 PM
CBS released a couple of new clips today:
One clip is 31 seconds long and shows Vanessa & Ralph walking (and bickering) to Neuschwanstein Castle.  In the clip, Ralph tells Vanessa, "We're three right now" -> currently in 3rd place?

The other clip is 1:21 seconds long and shows Bopper & Mark, Brendan & Rachel, and Kerri & Stacy at the gingerbread house task.
http://www.cbs.com/shows/amazing_race/video/2210537870/the-amazing-race-bavaria-germany

In this Vanessa/Ralph clip she also refers to "this" as his idea. Does this indicate that the castle was a choice?
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: kirby on March 15, 2012, 10:10:00 PM
Could be talking about walking instead of riding/driving.

In the other clip its hard to tell if bopper and mark are there with the others or if it is spliced together, but at 57 seconds I see a guy in a blue jacket behind kerri and stacey.  Could be them.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2012, 10:16:07 PM
Can someone post the link to the other please?? Am having some tech difficulties, may not be able to snag these tonight.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: kirby on March 15, 2012, 10:22:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWqqbYzvOOc&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNBwtTFs8ME&feature=channel
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 15, 2012, 10:29:39 PM
Thanks, Kirby. WP definitely nailed down the H-G house  :hoot:; the running caps were, I suppose, because of off-site parking.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2012, 11:14:30 PM
Thanks Kirby!! I have them now, working on them!!
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 16, 2012, 12:10:15 AM
ALL the promos are up now in post 2!

Caps later, :nitenite:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: eddiethejet on March 16, 2012, 12:34:39 AM
Mark got a title quote!
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TAR Fanatic on March 16, 2012, 01:57:02 AM
In the new Gingerbread House Promos, as they approach the witch, Mark and Rachel are carrying the gnomes, but both Bopper and Brendon are carrying something also. I think they are carrying the pieces of gingerbread since they already seem to have them and the witch isn't handing them anything.
I also think that Brendon has the gingerbread in his arms as he slides down the hill, which would mean that they are heading toward the H&G house, rather than away from it when he slides.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TAR Fanatic on March 16, 2012, 02:55:32 AM
Could be talking about walking instead of riding/driving.

In the other clip its hard to tell if bopper and mark are there with the others or if it is spliced together, but at 57 seconds I see a guy in a blue jacket behind kerri and stacey.  Could be them.

I agree with Vanessa and Ralph that she's mad about walking vs riding since production makes a point of showing a carriage.

I also saw the blue jacket behind K/S at the gingerbread task.

I also noticed the shoulder of a blue jacket next to Bopper in the cab at the end of Promo #2. It's not visible in the caps, only in the video. If that's Mark sitting in the backseat next to Bopper, it means they're in a cab, not self-driving, for what it's worth.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Prophet on March 16, 2012, 08:01:05 AM
Why is Ralph making such a big deal about carrying her jacket? :lol:

And did Brenchel bring those hats? :lol3:

(http://i.imgur.com/niFro.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Jimmer on March 16, 2012, 09:03:53 AM
In the gingerbread promos, Rachel said, "I always pick the hard ones." I think the gingerbread house is a detour. This refers to the watermelons over the harp (they chose watermelons but decided to leave) and the salami detour.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Jimmer on March 16, 2012, 09:14:14 AM
I'm pretty sure the detour is Gnome Beard or Gingerbread. We have seen Joey & Danny and Dave and Rachel do the beard and Brenchel, Mark & Bopper, and Kerri & Stacy do the gingerbread. I have not seen anyone do both in the promos. Plus Rachel (BR) said, "I always pick the hard ones," in my thought referring to the hard detours that they have done in the past.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Prophet on March 16, 2012, 09:15:21 AM
I'm pretty sure the detour is Gnome Beard or Gingerbread. We have seen Joey & Danny and Dave and Rachel do the beard and Brenchel, Mark & Bopper, and Kerri & Stacy do the gingerbread. I have not seen anyone do both in the promos. Plus Rachel (BR) said, "I always pick the hard ones," in my thought referring to the hard detours that they have done in the past.

That sounds right to me too. The curling seems like the roadblock and it must be first because everywhere else they already have the gnome.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 16, 2012, 10:15:55 AM
Notice what the racers are not carrying as they walk up to Neuschwanstein Castle...

Say backpack!

Which makes me think the castle is not the pitstop. Don't they have to carry their backpacks to the pitstop?
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 16, 2012, 11:02:54 AM
Don't they have to carry their backpacks to the pitstop?

Reading this sentence made me think of Jonathan & Victoria in Berlin! :lol: :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 16, 2012, 12:35:45 PM
Notice whats the racers are not carrying as they walk up to Neuschwanstein Castle...

Say backpack!

Which makes me think the castle is not the pitstop. Don't they have to carry their backpacks to the pitstop?

Not necessarily.

I say YES. :)
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 16, 2012, 12:43:16 PM
I'm pretty sure the detour is Gnome Beard or Gingerbread. We have seen Joey & Danny and Dave and Rachel do the beard and Brenchel, Mark & Bopper, and Kerri & Stacy do the gingerbread. I have not seen anyone do both in the promos. Plus Rachel (BR) said, "I always pick the hard ones," in my thought referring to the hard detours that they have done in the past.

I agree on the Gingerbread, def a detour. I think the beards are farther than usual for a second Detour option, I am inclined to say TOO far right now....

Perhaps someone could check on driving times between H&G house and the Castle and the Curling and the beards, based on our assumed locations?? Sounds like the yodelling is right in Oberammergau which would be consistent with a speedbump. The only other thing we have is curling as a detour option perhaps?? Since it is also in town...we THINK.

IF Beards are an active RI, and Curling, and Gingerbread are Detours, that prob leaves the Castle as the RB..... ??? with an as yet unknown Pitstop...  or the other way around, :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 16, 2012, 12:54:04 PM
Well...so much for that!! :lol3:


New press pics confirm BEARD as Detour B, and Yodelling As Speedbump!!
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 16, 2012, 01:10:55 PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Press%20Photos/20-5-DetourBD-R.jpg)
Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence (Bavaria, Germany)"-In Detour B, Army couple Rachel and Dave (center) must style the beard to meet the approval of the World Champion Beard Meister in order to receive the next clue on THE AMAZING RACE Sunday March 18

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Press%20Photos/20-5-DetourBJ-D.jpg)
"Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence (Bavaria, Germany)"-In Detour B, Friends Joey "Fitness" (left) and Danny (right) must style the beard to meet the approval of the World Champion Beard Meister in order to receive the next clue on THE AMAZING RACE Sunday March 18

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Press%20Photos/20-5-DetourAS-K.jpg)
"Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence (Bavaria, Germany)"-In Detour A, Cousins Kerri (left) and Stacy (right) must complete construction on a ginergerbread house in order to receive the next clue on THE AMAZING RACE Sunday March 18

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Press%20Photos/20-5-SpeedbumpM-B.jpg)
"Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence (Bavaria, Germany)"-In the Speed Bump, Best friends Bopper (left) and Mark (right) must dress in traditional costume and yodel with the Happy Bavarians Band in order to continue on with the Race on THE AMAZING RACE Sunday March 18
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Jobby on March 16, 2012, 01:18:04 PM
Kerri and Stacey reached the Detour before Mark and Bopper and Brendon and Rachel too.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 16, 2012, 01:22:36 PM
Based on??
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 16, 2012, 01:57:28 PM
Looks like Rachel is carrying a Route Info envelope as she runs away from the Hansel and Gretel house. But, it looks like Brendon is carrying the basket of gingerbread to complete the house. Confusing.
Here is some speculation on my part - maybe teams go to the "Little Red Riding Hood" house to get the basket of gingerbread (for the grandmother/witch), then have to go to the Hansel and Gretel house. Two of the teams get lost...

And it looks like there is some writing on the bottom of the gnome.
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb365/walkingpneumonia/RachelRouteInfo.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: cattychic on March 16, 2012, 02:42:09 PM
And You see Brendon carrying the basket to the gingerbread task , so that must be where they are heading . Would they have a route info clue if they're heading to a detour ?
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 16, 2012, 02:47:29 PM
And You see Brendon carrying the basket to the gingerbread task , so that must be where they are heading . Would they have a route info clue if they're heading to a detour ?
But the thing is - they are running away from the Hansel and Gretel house...
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TarJunkie999 on March 16, 2012, 02:57:40 PM
 :umn: Interesting, in the new previews of the beard task. we see not only the wappen for Unterammergau on the wall but also covering the lectern on the stage behind them.  Just saying... beards might be in Unterammergau, and not Oberammergau.  just saying....  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: apskip on March 16, 2012, 03:53:49 PM
Why is Ralph making such a big deal about carrying her jacket? :lol:

And did Brenchel bring those hats? :lol3:

(http://i.imgur.com/niFro.jpg)
I am not sure that cold weather gear is carried by the racers. I have the impression, not substantiated by any hard information, that World Race Productions provides cold weather gear just for the few legs that need. If this were not true, the backpacks would have to be huge.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TarJunkie999 on March 16, 2012, 04:30:10 PM
 :lol:  Interesting, Brenchel are in some sort of wine cellar / larder.   :duno:  wonder if the other confessionals are in the same location.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 16, 2012, 05:05:29 PM
I thought we already determined that the beards are in Unterammergau?? It is the curling (presumed) and the Gingerbread and the yodelling that are in Oberammergau. That is what was throwing us off on calling the beards a Detour, it is further away than most Detours.

:umn: Interesting, in the new previews of the beard task. we see not only the wappen for Unterammergau on the wall but also covering the lectern on the stage behind them.  Just saying... beards might be in Unterammergau, and not Oberammergau.  just saying....  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TARismyfavoriteshow on March 16, 2012, 07:41:08 PM
Hope someone can find the rink!

There is a BIG one in Fussen (BLZ) and another in on Malensteinweg in Unterammergau....
From a logistical point of view, I think the outdoor rink on Malensteinweg in Oberammergau would work best. Its walking distance from the Hansel and Gretel house.
I can't find any photos of it in action though.
The Oberammergau web site says the outdoor rink is behind the tennis courts.
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb365/walkingpneumonia/OberRinks.jpg)

I'm pretty sure this could be the correct location. I did some research and a map on Oberammergau's website says the rink features curling and a natural ice rink. I can't remember if anyone has said that yet.

I thought we already determined that the beards are in Unterammergau?? It is the curling (presumed) and the Gingerbread and the yodelling that are in Oberammergau. That is what was throwing us off on calling the beards a Detour, it is further away than most Detours.

I'm confused how a couple miles is really that far away. I'm not sure how close most detours are, but the two towns don't seem that far.

Also, it seems to me like the pit stop locations aren't usually mentioned at all in the promo videos. So it could be something that we have no idea about, because I really am doubting the castle is it.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: ZouLy on March 16, 2012, 07:50:45 PM
Speculation about Roadblock in the Castle might be true, I think...

since teams were finding the way out through labyrinth and search for King Ludwig's bedroom...
Let's assume that labyrinth is inside the castle with hundreds or maybe thousands of rooms and hallway...  :)
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Jimmer on March 16, 2012, 08:09:19 PM
So what about the gnome curling? Can that be the road block? All this speculation is confusing me.  :iok

This may be a far out there stretch, but is it possible that searching in Sleeping Beauty's castle is a fast forward? This could be an alternate solution to Vanessa yelling at Ralph in the promo saying, "This was your idea."  :duno:

This also explain why the press release says "ONE TEAMS snowy labyrinth"
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: kirby on March 16, 2012, 08:18:45 PM
So this is confirmed:
Detour = beards or gingerbread
speedbump = yodeling


Curling almost has to be the roadblock.  If the Oberammergau outdoor rink is correct, it could play out similar to the last leg.  Short travel difficult task (salami/gingerbread) or longer travel easier task (statue/beards).

The castle is probably search for a clue.

Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Declive on March 16, 2012, 08:23:45 PM
So this is confirmed:
Detour = beards or gingerbread
speedbump = yodeling


Curling almost has to be the roadblock.  If the Oberammergau outdoor rink is correct, it could play out similar to the last leg.  Short travel difficult task (salami/gingerbread) or longer travel easier task (statue/beards).

The castle is probably search for a clue.

Calm down on the confirming buddy...
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TARismyfavoriteshow on March 16, 2012, 08:33:05 PM
So this is confirmed:
Detour = beards or gingerbread
speedbump = yodeling


Curling almost has to be the roadblock.  If the Oberammergau outdoor rink is correct, it could play out similar to the last leg.  Short travel difficult task (salami/gingerbread) or longer travel easier task (statue/beards).

The castle is probably search for a clue.

Calm down on the confirming buddy...

See

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Press%20Photos/20-5-DetourBD-R.jpg)
Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence (Bavaria, Germany)"-In Detour B, Army couple Rachel and Dave (center) must style the beard to meet the approval of the World Champion Beard Meister in order to receive the next clue on THE AMAZING RACE Sunday March 18

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Press%20Photos/20-5-DetourBJ-D.jpg)
"Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence (Bavaria, Germany)"-In Detour B, Friends Joey "Fitness" (left) and Danny (right) must style the beard to meet the approval of the World Champion Beard Meister in order to receive the next clue on THE AMAZING RACE Sunday March 18

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Press%20Photos/20-5-DetourAS-K.jpg)
"Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence (Bavaria, Germany)"-In Detour A, Cousins Kerri (left) and Stacy (right) must complete construction on a ginergerbread house in order to receive the next clue on THE AMAZING RACE Sunday March 18

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/Press%20Photos/20-5-SpeedbumpM-B.jpg)
"Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence (Bavaria, Germany)"-In the Speed Bump, Best friends Bopper (left) and Mark (right) must dress in traditional costume and yodel with the Happy Bavarians Band in order to continue on with the Race on THE AMAZING RACE Sunday March 18
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Declive on March 16, 2012, 08:36:24 PM
Oh sorry , i wanted to write another thing  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 16, 2012, 09:44:17 PM
I thought we already determined that the beards are in Unterammergau?? It is the curling (presumed) and the Gingerbread and the yodelling that are in Oberammergau. That is what was throwing us off on calling the beards a Detour, it is further away than most Detours.

I'm confused how a couple miles is really that far away. I'm not sure how close most detours are, but the two towns don't seem that far.



You are absolutely right. I just relooked and I was just remembering incorrectly.  :-[
 
 Oberammergau to Neuschwanstein:
 
Suggested routes
48.1 km, 50 mins B23 and B17

Oberammergau to Unterammergau
4.6 km, 8 mins B23
7.0 km, 9 mins Ettaler Straße and B23
 
Perfectly possible.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 16, 2012, 11:28:08 PM
Brendon and Bopper are carrying BASKETS of gingerbread INTO the task.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: BlooperGuy on March 17, 2012, 05:44:02 AM
Only two more days till this shows. Gotta find whose "Uglier than a Mud Rail Fence". Interested in gingerbread task. No U-turn seen.  :gaah:

I have a feeling that demon worshiper Vanessa said this quote.  :lol: Or perhaps Kerri/Stacey.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: gator27 on March 17, 2012, 06:53:34 AM
Only two more days till this shows. Gotta find whose "Uglier than a Mud Rail Fence". Interested in gingerbread task. No U-turn seen.  :gaah:

I have a feeling that demon worshiper Vanessa said this quote.  :lol: Or perhaps Kerri/Stacey.

Peach has wonderfully posted preview clips in the second post on page 1 of this thread.  The answer you seek is in those clips.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TARFansurvivor on March 17, 2012, 08:56:42 AM
Why is Ralph making such a big deal about carrying her jacket? :lol:

And did Brenchel bring those hats? :lol3:

(http://i.imgur.com/niFro.jpg)
Do anybody knows if the wine cellar could be Linderhof Palace, or is it to small to be there?
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: ianthebalance on March 17, 2012, 09:21:01 AM
Only two more days till this shows. Gotta find whose "Uglier than a Mud Rail Fence". Interested in gingerbread task. No U-turn seen.  :gaah:

I have a feeling that demon worshiper Vanessa said this quote.  :lol: Or perhaps Kerri/Stacey.

You meant that Rachel is the demon worshiper.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Jobby on March 17, 2012, 10:01:37 AM
Look at the clips. It's Mark and Bopper referring to the witch. :res:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: SilasKTsang on March 17, 2012, 03:35:17 PM
Regarding flights, the speculation thread has a discussion going about maybe teams drove from Turin; appears driving might have been faster.

good point. it's 240 miles away. About a 4 hour drive. BUT...that would be so much to ask of these people. I could imagine people getting totally lost. 
SilasK,

I would love to know the source of your information from Fussen to Munich. My source says it is "86.4 miles. It takes 2 hours by train and about 1 hour and 40" minutes by car.

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/distances.html?n=215
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2012, 03:38:46 PM
The Rome sighting was not for this leg...teams were sighted changing planes there on the way from Asuncion to Turin.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: maa on March 17, 2012, 04:25:09 PM
Is it possible that the Gnome Curling is the RB and done 1st.  Maybe that is how they get their gnomes.  Since we only see JJ doing it.  Maybe one team member has to get the gnome in the middle of the target to get the gnome and their next clue.  Since one picture shows writing on the bottom of one.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Prophet on March 17, 2012, 05:10:57 PM
Is it possible that the Gnome Curling is the RB and done 1st.  Maybe that is how they get their gnomes.  Since we only see JJ doing it.  Maybe one team member has to get the gnome in the middle of the target to get the gnome and their next clue.  Since one picture shows writing on the bottom of one.

I think so too. It makes a lot of sense. :bigwelcome to RFF!!
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: maa on March 17, 2012, 05:46:25 PM
Thank you, been lurking for years, but never really had something to say. 

I am also thinking the castle might be the pitstop.  We only have an hour show to fit everything.  Still wondering if they drive or take another form of transportation to Germany.

I'm thinking so far it's:
get to Germany
Yodeliing
RBlock - gnome curling
detours - beard or gingerbread
make way to castle, maybe they have to find Phil in one of the rooms.   :duno:

Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Prophet on March 17, 2012, 05:48:14 PM
But like walkingpneumonia said, they don't have their backpacks on the way to the castle. It does seem like a lot of stuff to fit in to one leg though.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: maa on March 17, 2012, 05:56:46 PM
But like walkingpneumonia said, they don't have their backpacks on the way to the castle. It does seem like a lot of stuff to fit in to one leg though.

Oh right, maybe you have to park at the bottom and either walk up or take a carriage.  Would mean their stuff is in the car.  Gee for someone who never really has had something to say before, sure is talkity today.   :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Alenaveda on March 17, 2012, 06:09:02 PM
But like walkingpneumonia said, they don't have their backpacks on the way to the castle. It does seem like a lot of stuff to fit in to one leg though.

Oh right, maybe you have to park at the bottom and either walk up or take a carriage.  Would mean their stuff is in the car.  Gee for someone who never really has had something to say before, sure is talkity today.   :lol:

That's make perfect sense with the clip of Vanessa & Ralph walking to the castle (with the image of the carriage), and the discussion about the choice to go on foot.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Prophet on March 17, 2012, 06:34:50 PM
:bigwelcome to Alenaveda as well!
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: cougarspy on March 17, 2012, 06:41:16 PM
Thanks WP!!

Here are some pics of the BLZ in Fussn...I don't see any shiny red??

http://www.blz.fuessen.de/ (http://www.blz.fuessen.de/)

But caps 10 and 11 do seem to be inside to me ... so :duno:

I keep going back to this picture which shows writing on the main arena.  There is also a yellow sign that says something.
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%205%20Bavaria/20-5-promo1-caps0369.jpg)

That appears to me in the foreground to be a main arena - signage and fences.  The hometeam in Fussen (yes, I'm still stuck on Fussen for the ice arena even though I can't find the shiny red).

The ice complex at Fussion has:
3 closed ice-rinks
2 for icehockey and figure skating
1 for curling

Here is a photo of the inside of the curling rink - 4 lanes?  I've not that familar with this sport, but it looks like 4 teams could curl at once.
(http://www.blz.fuessen.de/bilder/galerie/Curling.jpg)
http://www.blz.fuessen.de/
Notice the main arena in the foreground through the windows.

This sports complex is an 11 minute walk from the Fussen Train Station.
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: maa on March 17, 2012, 07:16:36 PM
But Cougs look at the picture of JJ, he is almost shoulder length with the window and very white, your pictures is too dark for it to be the place and no windows at shoulder length. 
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Katarzyna on March 17, 2012, 10:05:53 PM
Is the show going to be delayed in Eastern & Central tomorrow?
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2012, 10:12:07 PM
See the scheduling thread for that...
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2012, 10:12:34 PM
:welcome: to RFF everyone!!
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Declive on March 17, 2012, 10:13:57 PM
:welcome: to RFF everyone!!

 Welcome Alenaveda and maa ! You guys just know the best place on earth!  :jam:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2012, 10:17:38 PM
NEW PROMO!!

Will do the promo some but we have a new location so rushing the caps out!

This should be arrival...note HAVE backpacks but NO Gnomes!!
 
And is that another Ford front and center??

Can y'all help find this?? NOT the train station at Fussen. Need to find pics for Obergammerau station? Ticket place at Castle?? No idea but finding this will tell us a LOT!!
 
ALso need the house behind Bopper if possible, this may be the yodelling site and they are driving by then. WP has that site upstream if we can picture match!!
 
Good luck!!



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Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2012, 11:03:13 PM
Short promo up!!
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TAR Fanatic on March 17, 2012, 11:38:06 PM
I have no comment on the buildings but I do see the 4 teams who finished at the bottom of the pack in Turin. Nary/Jamie, Brrendon/Rachel, Stacy/Kerri, and Mark/Bopper. Mark and Bopper seem to claiming a vehicle while the rest are running past. could be that vehicle takes them to the speedbump while the others are running for a clue.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Declive on March 17, 2012, 11:45:05 PM
I have no comment on the buildings but I do see the 4 teams who finished at the bottom of the pack in Turin. Nary/Jamie, Brrendon/Rachel, Stacy/Kerri, and Mark/Bopper. Mark and Bopper seem to claiming a vehicle while the rest are running past. could be that vehicle takes them to the speedbump while the others are running for a clue.

That could mean teams driving themselves to Germany .
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2012, 11:49:05 PM
We know from the promos that they drive themselves IN Germany...somehow I am doubting they drive TO Germany, but you never know!!

Okay, y'all have all night and a day to find THAT PLACE for us!! Poor me has to work!! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TAR Fanatic on March 18, 2012, 12:05:01 AM
This mass arrival does pretty much rule out self-driving to Germany. Plane or Train?

What do you guys think about the possibility that Mark/Bopper are about to board a vehicle to the Speedbump? They are the only ones claiming a vehicle. Also I mentioned earlier that at the end of Promo #2 where Bopper is yodeling, there's a brief glimpse of the shoulder of a blue jacket next to him, which I think is Mark. I think they're being driven to the Speedbump.

Clips show the other teams doing their own driving, but I think Mark and Bopper were driven to the Speedbump. Kinda negates the effect of the Speedbump since it may be in the same town as the Roadblock and one of the Detour options.

Edited to add: There also seems to be a man standing next to the vehicle. Driver?
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 18, 2012, 01:18:35 AM
It might not totally rule it out (driving to Germany), if all the teams had a HOO that they had to wait for. We can assume that it sis not snowing when the teams reached the area, but it does seem to me that it hadn't been more than a day before since the roads appear recently snowplowed, and there isn't any "dirty" snow or snow slush in the caps we've seen. The weather on the route might be a factor in whether they were allowed to drive or had to take other transportation to Germany.

I can remember in some past seasons were teams took buses to or from northern Italy. (TAR 3 in Great Britain, TAR 4 in Italy, perhaps?) The main reason I think the speculation has been self-driving is because of the greater presence this season of the Ford vehicles, and this past leg, with the automatic parking system certainly suggests Ford wants to show the features of their new models in the show, and I can see the logic of showing off the GPS system in a country where the teams aren't familiar.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: apskip on March 18, 2012, 12:33:06 PM
I generally agree with the schnauzers above, but my logic is about minimum transit time. I believe that cars can arrive at approximately the same time after a 6 hour drive if they start at the same time, as they are required to drive at the speed limit and not above. Having the last 4 teams arriving at roughly the same time could mean that they all were released at about the same time.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Jimmer on March 18, 2012, 12:39:22 PM
I'm getting confused, what is an HOO?
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: NoluckBoston on March 18, 2012, 12:43:17 PM
I'm getting confused, what is an HOO?
Hours Of Operation.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Jimmer on March 18, 2012, 12:45:45 PM
I'm getting confused, what is an HOO?
Hours Of Operation.
Thank you!  :)
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 18, 2012, 01:50:00 PM
HD caps from Promo 2!

I think we see how many stations were being used, that at one point B&M, R&B, and S&K were there togteher, that they must go somewhere else first to get the basket of gingerbread as we see them running withit...

Also we now have 2 caps of the confesisonal presumed pitstop, which does NOT look like the Castle to me, hope someone is looking around for this and the BEARD task??

Also se what y'all think...

I am thinking that caps 28-33 and at the end (marked) may well be Nary?? If so they were leaving in front of the 3 we see.

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Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Tach on March 18, 2012, 07:02:19 PM
Wrong thread to post..mybad.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 18, 2012, 07:27:28 PM
No worries!! :welcome: to RFF!
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: Prophet on March 18, 2012, 09:09:03 PM
Awesome work by whoever nailed Fussen for the roadblock!
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 19, 2012, 09:48:25 AM
Can y'all help find this?? NOT the train station at Fussen. Need to find pics for Obergammerau station? Ticket place at Castle?? No idea but finding this will tell us a LOT!!
 



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GRRRR> I hate working TAR weekends. :groan: We coulda/shoulda had this.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 19, 2012, 09:55:54 AM
We had a cap. The cap had the red symbol. Given a lot of us looking, we could have found this.

We had SO much this leg!! I am just greedy :lol:.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: TarJunkie999 on March 19, 2012, 11:10:49 AM

 :groan:  how obvious, it was the Wetz-Stoa Stub'n in Unterammergau.   :lol3:  :res:

Wetz-Stoa Stub'n
Dorfplatz 1
82497 Unterammergau

as best I can pimpoint the location below
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: apskip on March 19, 2012, 02:34:05 PM
We had a cap. The cap had the red symbol. Given a lot of us looking, we could have found this.

We had SO much this leg!! I am just greedy :lol:.

Peach,
Greed does not become you. The intermodal transportation system, designed again to equalize almost all the teams, was totally unexpected. We thought maybe cars or maybe planes because both were quicker than trains. To have trains to Ehrwald (I never heard of it until this episode and I have been to that part of Austria) was unprecedented. World Race Productions had their rationale, but it was to slow down the lead teams, not for any other reason. It is impossible to predict when WRP are going to do that.

I guess that OBB train system logo should have told us something, but I missed it. Even so, that train station is typical of the many small village train stations throughout the Tirol.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 19, 2012, 02:48:19 PM
:ghug:
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 19, 2012, 03:15:54 PM
Can someone clarify something for me.  Were these trains the same type of passenger train/car piggyback carriage system that exists (or did) between Florida and Virginia?  I get the impression that it is, but nothing explicit. (If I missed it, I plead heat stress -- we've had an unprecedented heat wave here with six consecutive record high days in the 80s and most of those with record highest lows to boot, and they've never had this many days of 80s here this early in the year, or for this long. And it's been true all over the state and in nearby states.)

If it is, then I would suggest that those of ue who were arguing for self-drive to Germany were essentially right, since they were driving the same cars. If it wasn't, then yet, car-train-car was something no one could  have guessed.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: apskip on March 19, 2012, 05:00:03 PM
the schnauzers,

What I remember from my most recent crossing of the Brenner Pass on a train (decades ago) was that there were trucks on low flat-bed railcar chassis. I don't remember seeing any cars handled that way, but I can't say whether that is the case today. I can say that the official Austria transportation policy for the use of the Brenner Pass by cars, trucks and rail, talks solely about "100,000 trucks" per year going on the flatbed railcars and about 12 times as much going over the pass. There is no mention of cars on railcars.
Title: Re: TAR 20 Ep 5 "Uglier Than A Mud Rail Fence" (Bavaria, Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 20, 2012, 10:33:53 AM
CAPS from the Episode:

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