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The Amazing Race => The Racers => Topic started by: georgiapeach on January 25, 2012, 09:44:48 AM

Title: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: georgiapeach on January 25, 2012, 09:44:48 AM: (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/Cast%20Reveal/NaryandJamie.jpg)

Name: Nary Ebeid
Age: 32
Hometown: Los Angeles
Connection to your teammate: Friends
Current occupation: Federal Agent

Describe what you do: Enforce the controlled substance laws and bring criminals who grow, manufacture and distribute controlled substances to the criminal and civil justice system of the United States.
How will these skills help you win The Race? In this profession you need to be on your toes and make quick split and rational decisions under pressure. That is a tough skill to come by and making quick decisions for the Race is important.
Three words to describe you: Stubborn, loyal and warm-hearted.
Favorite hobbies: Working out at the gym, rollerblading and photo-scrapbooking.
What famous person reminds you of yourself? Sandra Bullock in “Miss Congeniality”
What famous person reminds you of your teammate? Mike Myers in “Austin Powers” because of the funny voice she uses sometimes.
What is the accomplishment you are most proud of? Completing the Academy, becoming a Federal Agent and getting my Masters degree in two and a half years, all while working full-time.
What scares you most about traveling? Being kidnapped or eating something that will make me sick and therefore ruin my trip!
What excites you most about traveling? The experience of seeing how other parts of the world look and how different people are and trying different food.
Biggest challenge you and your teammate will face on The Race together? We are both pretty good communicators with one another, but sometimes I may have to speak loudly to get it through her hard head.
Pet peeve about your teammate: She’s hard headed and selfish sometimes – and a little high maintenance. For example, she told her fiancée that she wanted a $20,000 ring!
What country and place would you most like to visit and why? South Africa to see the African Safari.
What do you hope to accomplish by running The Race (other than winning one million bucks)? The experience of a lifetime and gaining a stronger bond with Jamie.

Name: Jamie Graetz
Age: 33
Hometown: Los Angeles
Connection to your teammate: Friends
Current occupation: Federal Agent
Describe what you do: To enforce the controlled substances laws of the United States of America. In order to achieve this we target high-level drug traffickers and look to disrupt/dismantle them.
How will these skills help you win The Race? We are aggressive, pay attention to detail, are always ready for a challenge and never give up. Go hard or go home!
Three words to describe you: Alive, loyal and thankful.
Favorite hobbies: Running, baking and working out.
What famous person reminds you of yourself? Austin Powers with a touch of Barbie.
What famous person reminds you of your teammate? Hulk Hogan—Nary is one tough cookie. You don’t want to see her get in a fight.
What is the accomplishment you are most proud of? When I was shot, the bullet shattered my right femur. I was close to losing my leg. I am most proud to be back at work and running again. Both are huge accomplishments for me.
What scares you most about traveling? Being kidnapped. I’d hate for my family and friends to wonder where I am or what happened to me. Or getting thrown in a foreign prison.
What excites you most about traveling? Where do I start? I love meeting new people and trying new food. Experiencing a different culture and sharing stories. It all gets me excited.
Biggest challenge you and your teammate will face on The Race together? We both always think we’re right. We could definitely work on compromising every now and then. We also bicker quite a bit.
Pet peeve about your teammate: She is so stubborn. Once she’s made a decision, it is an act of God to get her to change her mind.
What country and place would you most like to visit and why? That’s a tough one. I’d like to go to the Greek Isles with my boyfriend because it looks beautiful and for the great food. I want to go to Ibiza with my girlfriends.
What do you hope to accomplish by running The Race (other than winning one million bucks)? Pushing ourselves to the limit and learning from each other. I’d love to see how we react in a foreign country under pressure. We travel a lot together, but it has never been stressful.

http://www.youtube.com/v/OR--go8Ztf8?version=3&hl
Title: Re: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Friends*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on January 25, 2012, 09:46:28 AM: Federal agents <33333333333333333 :hearts:

Shaping up as one of my two early faves, along with Dave & Rachel! :ghug:
Title: Re: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Friends*
Post by: Flamant on January 25, 2012, 09:48:12 AM: Rooting for this team!! :hrt: :hrt:

And Jamie looks like Nat :o
Title: Re: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Friends*
Post by: Prophet on January 25, 2012, 09:48:45 AM: Quote from: Flamant on January 25, 2012, 09:48:12 AM
And Jamie looks like Nat :o

IKR?!?!
Title: Re: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Friends*
Post by: Cocoa on January 25, 2012, 09:51:37 AM: Quote from: Flamant on January 25, 2012, 09:48:12 AM
And Jamie looks like Nat :o

Exactly. :lol: :lol: But a 90's version look. :lol:
Title: Re: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Friends*
Post by: Theo on January 25, 2012, 09:52:11 AM: Quote from: Prophet on January 25, 2012, 09:48:45 AM
Quote from: Flamant on January 25, 2012, 09:48:12 AM
And Jamie looks like Nat :o

IKR?!?!

This team looks strong and tough. Wow!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Polaroid on January 25, 2012, 11:47:04 AM: Quote
What is the accomplishment you are most proud of? When I was shot, the bullet shattered my right femur. I was close to losing my leg. I am most proud to be back at work and running again. Both are huge accomplishments for me.

That's insane.

Jamie reminded me of Nat too.
Title: Re: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Friends*
Post by: stifflfootball on January 25, 2012, 12:43:15 PM: Quote from: racer on January 25, 2012, 09:46:28 AM
Federal agents <33333333333333333 :hearts:

Shaping up as one of my two early faves, along with Dave & Rachel! :ghug:

Wonder if either of them know Phillip Shepherd of Survivor. :o
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: paridy on January 25, 2012, 02:12:36 PM: ^ :lol3: Not sure if they would admit to it if they did
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: choroneko on January 25, 2012, 03:59:07 PM: I smell first place in this team.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: LoveRocked on January 25, 2012, 05:07:54 PM: What a coool!! Team Federal Agent! <33333333333333333333
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: georgiapeach on January 25, 2012, 06:28:54 PM: Quote from: choroneko on January 25, 2012, 03:59:07 PM

I smell first place in this team.

:welcome: to RFF choroneko!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Jobby on January 25, 2012, 08:22:35 PM: Guess who's their fan and love at first sight? :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Aussie on January 25, 2012, 08:26:25 PM: They remind me of Nat and Kat in 10 years. I'm on the fence with them.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on January 25, 2012, 10:03:43 PM: Quote from: Joab on January 25, 2012, 08:22:35 PM
Guess who's their fan and love at first sight? :lol3:

:lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: balfour on January 25, 2012, 11:53:18 PM: Why do they want to hide their jobs from other teams? Them and the border patrol team both want to be sneaky about it. :crazy: :duno:
Title: Re: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Friends*
Post by: eragon on January 26, 2012, 11:07:50 AM: Quote from: stifflfootball on January 25, 2012, 12:43:15 PM
Quote from: racer on January 25, 2012, 09:46:28 AM
Federal agents <33333333333333333 :hearts:

Shaping up as one of my two early faves, along with Dave & Rachel! :ghug:

Wonder if either of them know Phillip Shepherd of Survivor. :o

THIS! :lol:

I'm rooting for all F/F teams this season! <3333333
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: apskip on January 27, 2012, 02:46:53 PM: Aussie Babuschka,

Your statement that the Federal Agents team reminds you of the anesthesiologists "in 10 years" is a bit unfair to Nat and Kat. They had an average age of 33.5 when they competed for AR17 while this team has an average age of 32.5. That's essentially the same in my view.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: carlsbad_bolt_Fan on January 27, 2012, 11:11:43 PM: If they're going to try and pass themselves off as teachers, instead of what they really are, then they've already lost the race.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Polaroid on January 27, 2012, 11:40:53 PM: Quote from: carlsbad_bolt_Fan on January 27, 2012, 11:11:43 PM
If they're going to try and pass themselves off as teachers, instead of what they really are, then they've already lost the race.

Why? The other teams would probably like them more as teachers than federal agents. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Kamineko on January 28, 2012, 12:41:05 AM: Definitely rooting for this team!! They look smart and also strong, and they also remind me to Nat & Kat! :hoot: :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Best Loser on January 28, 2012, 11:45:14 AM: Based on this one introduction, Jamie doesn't really seem to have a huge presence. I felt this way about Jeremy last season, and I ended up liking him, so I'll probably like her also.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: carlsbad_bolt_Fan on January 31, 2012, 12:34:24 AM: Quote from: Polaroid on January 27, 2012, 11:40:53 PM
Quote from: carlsbad_bolt_Fan on January 27, 2012, 11:11:43 PM
If they're going to try and pass themselves off as teachers, instead of what they really are, then they've already lost the race.

Why? The other teams would probably like them more as teachers than federal agents. :lol:
Why lie about it? This is a race, not a popularity contest. You think this team would be U-turned or Yielded just because they're federal agents? I don't think so.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Jobby on February 19, 2012, 11:28:50 PM: Nary and Jaime... I smell FINAL THREE, somehow! #SPEC

Gives me a Kisha and Jen and Nat and Kat vibe... COOL, CALM. :conf:

<33333333333333333333333333333333

Even if they're not giving you loads of screentime, just seeing you two enjoy the race!! :D
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Prophet on February 20, 2012, 07:32:29 AM: ^I know, they just sorta seem like they'll outlast the other teams by being calm don't they :duno:

Show content
They're sure to win my boosting game though :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Jobby on February 20, 2012, 07:34:19 AM: Quote from: Prophet on February 20, 2012, 07:32:29 AM
^I know, they just sorta seem like they'll outlast the other teams by being calm don't they :duno:

Show content
They're sure to win my boosting game though :lol:
Not necessay. There are a few really likable teams like Kerri and Stacey, Elliot and Andrew... HMMMM and the CLOWNS <3
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: maxen on February 22, 2012, 12:53:12 PM: LOOOVE THEM :hrt: :<3
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: maxen on February 27, 2012, 01:33:01 PM: :hearts: teachers ftw
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 27, 2012, 04:22:17 PM: (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2020/EP%202%20Buenos%20Aries/462faac0.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: ZouLy on February 28, 2012, 10:42:37 PM: I'm afraid they will ended up like Maria & Tiffany :( (~~Pro Poker Players~~ non-profit organization) :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Jobby on March 01, 2012, 01:21:17 AM: SCHOOL TEACHERS!! <33333

SO MUCH ENTERTAINMENT FROM THIS TEAM SUDDENLY IN EPISODE TWO... <33333333333
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Declive on March 01, 2012, 06:11:08 AM: Weak team in my opinion. If they were on the last bus as they were meant to be,that would be a fatal elimination for them.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: maxen on March 05, 2012, 09:31:44 AM: GETTING IN THE FIRST FLIGHT AND MAKING THOSE UGLY BORDER PATROLS MAD ABOUT SHARING THE INFO <33333333333333333333333
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: choroneko on March 05, 2012, 03:30:44 PM: Quote from: ZouLy on February 28, 2012, 10:42:37 PM
I'm afraid they will ended up like Maria & Tiffany :( (~~Pro Poker Players~~ non-profit organization) :duno:

Maria and Tiffany are much more memorable than them. Nary and Jamie are barely shown. Just one of those filler teams.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: supah on March 18, 2012, 04:07:48 PM: please let these girls win a leg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :jam:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: maxen on March 18, 2012, 06:33:52 PM: Quote from: supah3ro on March 18, 2012, 04:07:48 PM
please let these girls win a leg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :jam:

X2
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Flamant on March 18, 2012, 07:01:18 PM: Quote from: maxen on March 18, 2012, 06:33:52 PM
Quote from: supah3ro on March 18, 2012, 04:07:48 PM
please let these girls win a leg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :jam:

X2

x3 :-[ :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Jobby on March 19, 2012, 12:39:51 AM: I'm so glad they survived today! :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 19, 2012, 02:18:50 AM: Quote from: Joab on March 19, 2012, 12:39:51 AM
I'm so glad they survived today! :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Aussie on March 19, 2012, 02:29:10 AM: I'd rather them being eliminated than Kerri and Stacy. They don't seem as entertaining as the other teams.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 19, 2012, 02:57:18 AM: I think they probably would be a rather entertaining team, but the editors have completely ignored them. We've hardly heard them talking in this whole race, aside from the time they talked about their fake 'teacher' identity.

I want them to get a lot more screentime!!! :please:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Theo on March 19, 2012, 03:48:50 AM: Quote from: racer on March 19, 2012, 02:57:18 AM
I think they probably would be a rather entertaining team, but the editors have completely ignored them. We've hardly heard them talking in this whole race, aside from the time they talked about their fake 'teacher' identity.

I want them to get a lot more screentime!!! :please:

Yeah, they are actually funny! More screentime, please!!! :please:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: maxen on March 19, 2012, 07:23:13 AM: Quote from: Дussie Ҏanda on March 19, 2012, 02:29:10 AM
I'd rather them being eliminated than Kerri and Stacy. They don't seem as entertaining as the other teams.

Kerri and Stacy are not that interesting, their interaction was awful and were angry most of the time, glad to see them go.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: David on March 19, 2012, 08:10:24 AM: Quote from: Flamant on March 18, 2012, 07:01:18 PM
Quote from: maxen on March 18, 2012, 06:33:52 PM
Quote from: supah3ro on March 18, 2012, 04:07:48 PM
please let these girls win a leg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :jam:

X2

x3 :-[ :hearts:

THIS SO MUCH.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Prophet on March 19, 2012, 08:21:09 AM: Quote from: Дussie Ҏanda on March 19, 2012, 02:29:10 AM
I'd rather them being eliminated than Kerri and Stacy. They don't seem as entertaining as the other teams.

I know...it seems like Kerri and Stacy's edit was better ???
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Katarzyna on March 19, 2012, 09:16:00 AM: Jaime has smart sick humor. Damn u editors. I'm liking them now.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Jobby on March 19, 2012, 09:51:13 AM: Quote from: Prophet on March 19, 2012, 08:21:09 AM
Quote from: Дussie Ҏanda on March 19, 2012, 02:29:10 AM
I'd rather them being eliminated than Kerri and Stacy. They don't seem as entertaining as the other teams.

I know...it seems like Kerri and Stacy's edit was better ???

Nary and Jaime's last minutes on screen this episode:

XXX slides...
Nary: It's all my fault...
Jaime: It's okay, you did your best. We're always good at navigation and we'll beat them!

Kerri and Stacey's last minutes on screen this episode:

XXX slides...
Stacey: OH COME ON KERRI, GET IT RIGHT! *frustration*

After RB:
Kerri: TELL ME WHERE TO GO. WHEN YOU ASK FOR DIRECTIONS WILL YOU PLEASE LISTEN?
Stacey: WE'RE SO LOST.
*AFTER BICKERING, PRAY TO GOD*

If Nary and Jaime got eliminated this episode, it's going to be a bummer because not only are they a better team... but also because Kerri and Stacey don't deserve to stay at all after their mediocre performance :(
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: starrynight on March 20, 2012, 11:08:05 AM: Quote from: Katarzyna on March 19, 2012, 09:16:00 AM
Jaime has smart sick humor. Damn u editors. I'm liking them now.

Jamie is certainly my favourite of the two, she seems fresher and livlier.

Quote from: Prophet on March 19, 2012, 08:21:09 AM

I know...it seems like Kerri and Stacy's edit was better ???

I thought that it was more likely they had a bad edit in the last episode so people wouldn't mind them being eliminated. They didn't seem to come across well to me anyway.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Declive on March 20, 2012, 11:09:36 AM: :bigwelcome to RFF starrynight!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: starrynight on March 20, 2012, 11:16:03 AM: Thanks Declive :) I hope I like it here, I tried another Amazing Race forum and they said I had to state my opinion and then leave threads, not much of a 'discussion' forum lol.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Declive on March 20, 2012, 11:18:25 AM: Quote from: starrynight on March 20, 2012, 11:16:03 AM
Thanks Declive :) I hope I like it here, I tried another Amazing Race forum and they said I had to state my opinion and then leave threads, not much of a 'discussion' forum lol.

Oh ,here we have everything!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: TexasLady on March 20, 2012, 12:24:39 PM: Quote from: starrynight on March 20, 2012, 11:16:03 AM
Thanks Declive :) I hope I like it here, I tried another Amazing Race forum and they said I had to state my opinion and then leave threads, not much of a 'discussion' forum lol.

Welcome to RFF starrynight. feel free to discuss away. It's not much of a discussion if you aren't free to have one is it! :lol:

:welcome2: :ty4posting :welcome2:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: starrynight on March 23, 2012, 05:45:53 PM: I've now realised that the American love of these interview flashbacks in reality TV could well work against the suspense in this show. Anyone they interview is pretty much safe, right? The show is edited alright otherwise (ok some bits are a bit manipulated or made up for continuity but I'll go along with it). but this interview technique has to be used more cleverly otherwise it spoils the pay off at the end.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: georgiapeach on March 23, 2012, 08:06:42 PM: No, because they may well show an interview snippet from the eliminated team...so no guarantees!

But :welcome: to RFF starrynight!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: starrynight on March 26, 2012, 04:42:05 AM: They seemed disappointed finishing 5th, but they took on the apples task which was always a gamble with no certainty of finishing quickly and really needed some luck. The other task may have sounded less appealing but it was more straightforward.

Funny to hear Mark say Bopper likes Jamie. Can't say i'm surprised as she can have a spark to her which some of us find appealing :-[, but apart from the fact she already has a partner I think Bopper would be too simple minded for her anyway.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Prophet on March 26, 2012, 08:52:48 AM: Isn't Bopper married? :umn:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: BlooperGuy on March 28, 2012, 02:49:16 AM: Quote from: starrynight on March 26, 2012, 04:42:05 AM
Funny to hear Mark say Bopper likes Jamie. Can't say i'm surprised as she can have a spark to her which some of us find appealing :-[, but apart from the fact she already has a partner I think Bopper would be too simple minded for her anyway.
Bopper having a thing for Jamie? :eww I do think Jamie is the hottest girl this season, besides Rachel. :-[
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: maxen on March 28, 2012, 07:26:06 AM: To me the hottest girl is Vanessa by far, then Jaime, she's cute... both Rachels are meh... I don't like Nary's face but she has a great body :-[

But .... IS BOOPER MARRIED OR WHAT??? I found that coment from Mark really awkward.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Prophet on March 28, 2012, 07:56:52 AM: Quote from: maxen on March 28, 2012, 07:26:06 AM
But .... IS BOOPER MARRIED OR WHAT??? I found that coment from Mark really awkward.

I was wondering\thinking the same thing :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Declive on March 28, 2012, 11:24:07 AM: Quote from: maxen on March 28, 2012, 07:26:06 AM
To me the hottest girl is Vanessa by far, then Jaime, she's cute... both Rachels are meh... I don't like Nary's face but she has a great body :-[

But .... IS BOOPER MARRIED OR WHAT??? I found that coment from Mark really awkward.

Hell Yeah! But Rachel (BB) is hot too. Rachel (Dave) is not.

I think Bopper is married , and Jamie too!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: georgiapeach on March 28, 2012, 12:48:34 PM: Back to Jamie and Nary please.

And Jamie is engaged. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Declive on March 28, 2012, 01:53:16 PM: Quote from: georgiapeach on March 28, 2012, 12:48:34 PM
Back to Jamie and Nary please.

And Jamie is engaged. :tup:

Oh poor Bopper :'(
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: maxen on March 28, 2012, 02:04:20 PM: Quote from: Declive on March 28, 2012, 11:24:07 AM
Quote from: maxen on March 28, 2012, 07:26:06 AM
To me the hottest girl is Vanessa by far, then Jaime, she's cute... both Rachels are meh... I don't like Nary's face but she has a great body :-[

But .... IS BOOPER MARRIED OR WHAT??? I found that coment from Mark really awkward.

Hell Yeah! But Rachel (BB) is hot too. Rachel (Dave) is not.

I think Bopper is married , and Jamie too!

Nah, Rachel BB looks like Boy George. Back to Nary and Jamie i think their best chance to stay is using the U turn, they get ahead the other teams along the way but they get behind at the pit stop.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: starrynight on March 28, 2012, 04:18:26 PM: Quote from: maxen on March 28, 2012, 07:26:06 AM
To me the hottest girl is Vanessa by far, then Jaime, she's cute... both Rachels are meh... I don't like Nary's face but she has a great body :-[

Vanessa is the most conventionally pretty looking, but maybe that is partly because of plastic surgery to make her look that way. I'm sure she mentioned something about her nose in an earlier episode. She is kind of intense which may attract some as well. But the lively character of Rachel BB enlivens her looks in more ways perhaps. And Jamie does have a freshness to her quite a lot of the time.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Topita on April 08, 2012, 11:01:17 PM: Glad these girls are still in it! :hoot:
They got a lucky break but if they want to stick around, they really are going to have to up their game.
I wonder if they really have it in them.

Hope so because I would much rather watch these two in action than yet again a crying Rachel (Brenchel) or a bitchy dramaqueen Vanessa, who seem to both heavily rely on the physical strength of their male partners for the most part. :(

ETA: Thought the remark about their male collegues thinking about them both together in the shower, but in other circumstances was quite funny. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: kevin2012 on April 09, 2012, 03:08:47 AM: What happened to Nary in the plane?
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: AmazingRace on April 09, 2012, 06:17:36 AM: Quote from: kevin2012 on April 09, 2012, 03:08:47 AM
What happened to Nary in the plane?

I think she just wanted to sleep and the camera just zoomed in on her. An "unglam" moment probably. :lol:

I <3 these two! :D
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: starrynight on April 09, 2012, 06:50:33 AM: Quote from: Topita on April 08, 2012, 11:01:17 PM
Glad these girls are still in it! :hoot:
They got a lucky break but if they want to stick around, they really are going to have to up their game.
I wonder if they really have it in them.

Hope so because I would much rather watch these two in action than yet again a crying Rachel (Brenchel) or a bitchy dramaqueen Vanessa, who seem to both heavily rely on the physical strength of their male partners for the most part. :(

I like them as they bring something different to the race, but I like those other two groups as well.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: kevin2012 on April 09, 2012, 07:55:43 AM: Quote from: AmazingRace on April 09, 2012, 06:17:36 AM
Quote from: kevin2012 on April 09, 2012, 03:08:47 AM
What happened to Nary in the plane?

I think she just wanted to sleep and the camera just zoomed in on her. An "unglam" moment probably. :lol:

I <3 these two! :D

Really? I thought she was unconscious :faint:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: kevin2012 on April 09, 2012, 08:02:35 AM: I could not resist

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Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: David on April 09, 2012, 08:07:00 AM: Is that sleeping with open eyes?? :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Bluesky on April 10, 2012, 01:16:06 PM: Just watched this episode online, and I have to say that I have totally lost respect for these two. Honesty is an important virtue, and they flat out lied, on camera, to other racers about what they do. I'm sure some will argue that this is just a tiny little white lie, and some will argue that they are justified because they racing for a million dollars.

But such arguments are invalid. A person either holds a value, or they do not. A person that manipulates their values according to the situation at hand, can never be trusted. There will always be the next "important", "urgent", or "exceptional" situation that will give them an excuse to set values aside and do whatever they want.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Declive on April 10, 2012, 01:19:01 PM: Jamie is SOOOOOOOOO beautiful :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: starrynight on April 10, 2012, 01:56:20 PM: Quote from: Bluesky on April 10, 2012, 01:16:06 PM
Just watched this episode online, and I have to say that I have totally lost respect for these two. Honesty is an important virtue, and they flat out lied, on camera, to other racers about what they do. I'm sure some will argue that this is just a tiny little white lie, and some will argue that they are justified because they racing for a million dollars.

But such arguments are invalid. A person either holds a value, or they do not. A person that manipulates their values according to the situation at hand, can never be trusted. There will always be the next "important", "urgent", or "exceptional" situation that will give them an excuse to set values aside and do whatever they want.

It's a game. I doubt it's the first time this has happened, and it's certainly happened on Big Brother before.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Bluesky on April 10, 2012, 02:57:14 PM: Quote from: starrynight on April 10, 2012, 01:56:20 PM
Quote from: Bluesky on April 10, 2012, 01:16:06 PM
Just watched this episode online, and I have to say that I have totally lost respect for these two. Honesty is an important virtue, and they flat out lied, on camera, to other racers about what they do. I'm sure some will argue that this is just a tiny little white lie, and some will argue that they are justified because they racing for a million dollars.

But such arguments are invalid. A person either holds a value, or they do not. A person that manipulates their values according to the situation at hand, can never be trusted. There will always be the next "important", "urgent", or "exceptional" situation that will give them an excuse to set values aside and do whatever they want.

It's a game. I doubt it's the first time this has happened, and it's certainly happened on Big Brother before.

It's just a game. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just a first date. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just my resume. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just a loan application. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just my tax return. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.

It's just my integrity. It's okay to lie about it. Everyone does it.

Bull****.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: maxen on April 10, 2012, 03:02:10 PM: I don't understand... you lost the respect for them just with this last episode??... because they told they were not federal agents since the beginning.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: David on April 10, 2012, 03:18:45 PM: Quote from: Bluesky on April 10, 2012, 02:57:14 PM
Quote from: starrynight on April 10, 2012, 01:56:20 PM
Quote from: Bluesky on April 10, 2012, 01:16:06 PM
Just watched this episode online, and I have to say that I have totally lost respect for these two. Honesty is an important virtue, and they flat out lied, on camera, to other racers about what they do. I'm sure some will argue that this is just a tiny little white lie, and some will argue that they are justified because they racing for a million dollars.

But such arguments are invalid. A person either holds a value, or they do not. A person that manipulates their values according to the situation at hand, can never be trusted. There will always be the next "important", "urgent", or "exceptional" situation that will give them an excuse to set values aside and do whatever they want.

It's a game. I doubt it's the first time this has happened, and it's certainly happened on Big Brother before.

It's just a game. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just a first date. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just my resume. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just a loan application. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just my tax return. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.

It's just my integrity. It's okay to lie about it. Everyone does it.

Bull****.

Definitely, I understand them.

Had they said they are Federal Agents they'd have earned a target in their backs. Do they deserve it? I don't think so. IMHO, if you're an underdog, no one is gonna U-Turn you. But, "Hey! Let's U-Turn the Federal Agents!" sounds like a good reason to U-Turn someone.
"Why do we U-Turn them? Have they been a threat??" "Nope, but they ARE Federal Agents indeed." Obviously, people think they can be strong because of that.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Bluesky on April 10, 2012, 04:02:28 PM: Quote from: maxen on April 10, 2012, 03:02:10 PM
I don't understand... you lost the respect for them just with this last episode??... because they told they were not federal agents since the beginning.

No, I and my fellow viewers here have not not liked the "teachers" business since the beginning. But this is the first time they've been shown looking someone square in the eye and continuing to tell the lie. So I decided to comment.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: starrynight on April 10, 2012, 07:01:44 PM: Quote from: Bluesky on April 10, 2012, 02:57:14 PM
Quote from: starrynight on April 10, 2012, 01:56:20 PM
Quote from: Bluesky on April 10, 2012, 01:16:06 PM
Just watched this episode online, and I have to say that I have totally lost respect for these two. Honesty is an important virtue, and they flat out lied, on camera, to other racers about what they do. I'm sure some will argue that this is just a tiny little white lie, and some will argue that they are justified because they racing for a million dollars.

But such arguments are invalid. A person either holds a value, or they do not. A person that manipulates their values according to the situation at hand, can never be trusted. There will always be the next "important", "urgent", or "exceptional" situation that will give them an excuse to set values aside and do whatever they want.

It's a game. I doubt it's the first time this has happened, and it's certainly happened on Big Brother before.

It's just a game. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just a first date. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just my resume. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just a loan application. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just my tax return. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.

It's just my integrity. It's okay to lie about it. Everyone does it.

Bull****.

Those comparisons are irrelevant, it's a gameshow. And anyway what does it matter what someone says they do, why should someone be judged on what their work is? Those who are nicer people on this series don't judge people on that, others of course do (such as Vanessa who said Rachel was from a low class demographic and Art and JJ).
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Best Loser on April 10, 2012, 07:29:30 PM: Quote from: Bluesky on April 10, 2012, 04:02:28 PM
Quote from: maxen on April 10, 2012, 03:02:10 PM
I don't understand... you lost the respect for them just with this last episode??... because they told they were not federal agents since the beginning.

No, I and my fellow viewers here have not not liked the "teachers" business since the beginning. But this is the first time they've been shown looking someone square in the eye and continuing to tell the lie. So I decided to comment.

They lied to Art & J.J. because the guys acted a bit rude when they confronted the girls. And in one of the extra scenes for this week, didn't Nary & Jamie reveal to some of teams that they were federal agents? I haven't watched them yet.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Prophet on April 10, 2012, 08:34:52 PM: I don't know if it is acceptable for them to lie in this situation or not but they can certainly not complain about being questioned over it. They have to accept whatever happens to them because of this including a possible Uturn. (I did find it odd that they persisted with the teachers thing they could have fessed up at that point)

I don't think Art and JJ are doing anything wrong by noticing something wrong with their story and then mentioning it.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: starrynight on April 11, 2012, 02:10:48 AM: I don't think it's wrong with them being questioned over it, but it was quite obviously more than just being questioned. Art and JJ revealed that with their attitude, 'deer in the headlights', stirring things up as they admitted, and of course saying they did it to get their 'juices flowing'. Hard to deny that they are exactly what their enemies on the race describe them as. They have the ego to think they can push people around and intimidate, just like they did with Bopper and Mark as well.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: AmazingRace on April 13, 2012, 09:52:22 PM: Quote from: starrynight on April 11, 2012, 02:10:48 AM
I don't think it's wrong with them being questioned over it, but it was quite obviously more than just being questioned. Art and JJ revealed that with their attitude, 'deer in the headlights', stirring things up as they admitted, and of course saying they did it to get their 'juices flowing'. Hard to deny that they are exactly what their enemies on the race describe them as. They have the ego to think they can push people around and intimidate, just like they did with Bopper and Mark as well.

And they say they want to "stay out of the drama". :res:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: TARismyfavoriteshow on April 15, 2012, 07:57:25 AM: I don't like the whole thing with them lying. They were cast on this show 100% because of the jobs they have. They're girl federal agents. That's their whole story.
And they have been average to below average the whole time, 4th, 6th, 5th, 5th, 7th, 5th, last. Who would look at their job as a threat instead of actually looking at how well they do tasks and stuff? I think people that were rooting for them have been continuously disappointed.
I think Art and JJ were smart for figuring them out, it was interesting hearing how they did it. And good for them. They did no wrong. Remember how Art and JJ found their passports on the plane and gave it to them? What if they had lied about it when confronted?
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: David on April 15, 2012, 08:46:47 PM: I'll miss'em... <33333
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: starrynight on April 16, 2012, 02:09:56 AM: Quote from: TARismyfavoriteshow on April 15, 2012, 07:57:25 AM
I don't like the whole thing with them lying. They were cast on this show 100% because of the jobs they have. They're girl federal agents. That's their whole story.

But being federal agents and going undercover they were therefore doing what they might be expected to do. So I don't see your logic at all.

Disappointed Ralph and Vanessa weren't eliminated, I find them a bit one dimensional and tiresome now. Having one bitchy team (Art and JJ) is enough. They seem to vary the difficulty of the speed bumps quite a lot and this one ensured there wasn't a close finish.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: TARismyfavoriteshow on April 16, 2012, 05:00:15 AM: Quote from: starrynight on April 16, 2012, 02:09:56 AM
Quote from: TARismyfavoriteshow on April 15, 2012, 07:57:25 AM
I don't like the whole thing with them lying. They were cast on this show 100% because of the jobs they have. They're girl federal agents. That's their whole story.

But being federal agents and going undercover they were therefore doing what they might be expected to do. So I don't see your logic at all.

Why did they continue to lie when they were found out and confronted? They should have just said "yeah you got us, the plan failed". I just find it annoying.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: kevin2012 on April 16, 2012, 05:17:38 AM: bet they're wishing they didn't stop for the elephants now.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: maxen on April 16, 2012, 06:09:17 AM: They weren't the best racers but i'll still miss them so much. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Theo on April 16, 2012, 07:30:51 AM: Next All-Stars, please :please:

They compete in a season filled with tough teams :(
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Theo on April 16, 2012, 07:31:41 AM: In addition, they haven't even revealed their true identity :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: apskip on April 16, 2012, 08:04:52 AM: I want to focus on the most astonishing team feat I have ever seen on any Amazing Race, Nary and Jamie recovering at least 90 minutes on the short ride from the prior pit stop to Karatu. Given the distances involved, it is not possible for them to have done that without one or both of these assists:
1. the producers found them a shorter route
2. their safari vehicle driver was allowed to go above the speed or safety limit (I don't expect there to be any speed limit in the Crater) to heighten the excitement

If they didn't have a SpeedBump to slow them down (in a rare instance where the SpeedBump worked that way), they probably would have passed Vanessa and Ralph while those two were waiting for the rear tire blowout repair and finished in 5th place.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: starrynight on April 16, 2012, 11:11:54 AM: Quote from: TARismyfavoriteshow on April 16, 2012, 05:00:15 AM
Quote from: starrynight on April 16, 2012, 02:09:56 AM
Quote from: TARismyfavoriteshow on April 15, 2012, 07:57:25 AM
I don't like the whole thing with them lying. They were cast on this show 100% because of the jobs they have. They're girl federal agents. That's their whole story.

But being federal agents and going undercover they were therefore doing what they might be expected to do. So I don't see your logic at all.

Why did they continue to lie when they were found out and confronted? They should have just said "yeah you got us, the plan failed". I just find it annoying.

Because Art and JJ were pretty much taunting them. They did reveal the truth to the others who were nicer to them.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: slayton on April 16, 2012, 04:32:53 PM: http://social.entertainment.msn.com/tv/blogs/reality-tv-blogpost.aspx?post=01c92fee-8d64-431f-b348-14f20ffb9fc3

'The Amazing Race' Exit Interview: Jamie and Nary
Undercover agents on their last-place finish, matching T-shirts and more
Posted by MSN TV Monday, April 16, 2012 2:17:53 PM

By Diane Vadino

Special to MSN TV

The season's only remaining all-female team exited "The Amazing Race" last night, after a challenge on the previous episode put them so far back they couldn't catch up -- even after two other trailing teams were U Turned.

We spoke to Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz about their undercover stint as kindergarten teachers, the border patrol agents' aggro investigation into their true identities, and Bopper's crush on Jamie.

MSN TV: You guys wore matching "I'm with my BFF" T-shirts last night. Were you saving them for what you thought might be your last leg?

Nary: That was a completely Jamie's idea -- not mine at all. She was just like, "There's these really cute shirts with an arrow [pointing at each other].”

Jamie: I saw them online and was like, Holy cow, these are so awesome.

Nary: We knew that this could potentially be our last leg, and we didn't want to go home without wearing them.

What was so impossible about the tent-building challenge from last week?

Jamie: It really was a height thing. We had a really hard time getting the base set up -- one person would have to hold several of the angles [poles] while the other person grabbed [another one] -- that was really hard for us, being as small as we were. Once we got the base, though, we were chugging.

Nary: It was really tough. I thought I was going to break a finger. Even the guys were having some problems -- maybe if there was a male on the team, we would have gotten through it a little faster. And if there was another all-woman team, they might have struggled with it like we did.

Looking back now, what do you make of your decision not to tell the other teams your real occupations?

Jamie: It was funny. There happened to be several teams in law enforcement and military -- they might say, "Hey, let's stick together," or "I don't want to be compared to them, I want to get rid of them ASAP." The U Turns [where they might have been penalized for being feds] came later in the game, and [by then] it was kind of irrelevant.

Art and J.J. were so bullying about pinning down your occupations.

Nary: They were very arrogant. Once they won three legs, the arrogance just went through the roof. I don't necessarily think they were bullying us -- just trying to intimidate us or steer us. We were, like -- guess what, dudes, we don't care what you know. We were just annoyed that they took that approach, rather than a professional approach.

So what about that Bopper crush on Jamie, which Mark told Nary about?

Jamie: It was all in good fun. I love those guys -- I would have done anything in my power -- besides us losing -- to have helped them along. They're just genuinely great people.

Nary: It wasn't, like, "Oh, I'm in love with Jamie," in a nasty way. Bopper gave us his jacket when it was freezing cold out -- he was just such a gentleman; he was all about helping us. He always said, "You girls are such great girls."

What do you think the race meant for your friendship?

Nary: I think it was great to begin with. Jamie is like my sister -- we were dreading this last episode, but we went out well, and we left knowing that there was nothing also we could have done.

"The Amazing Race" airs Sundays at 8 p.m. ET/PT on CBS.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: slayton on April 16, 2012, 04:38:39 PM: http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Nary-Jamie-1046076.aspx

Amazing Race's Nary and Jamie: Art and JJ Are Jerks
Joyce Eng
Apr 16, 2012 04:59 PM ET
by Joyce Eng

Federal agents Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz started off nearly three hours behind everyone else on The Amazing Race's second Tanzanian leg, but — thanks to two Double U-Turns — managed to finish only 15 minutes behind. "I'd say it was a damn good effort!" Jamie tells TVGuide.com. "We made up several hours. It was hard for viewers to see how far behind we were with the tent thing last week, but we were hours behind. It was pretty awesome when we saw Ralph and Vanessa at the Speed Bump because it was like, 'We're still in it!' And then it was over!" Their elimination is sure to bring some smiles to the faces of Art and JJ, who are still peeved about the girls not admitting to using a kindergarten teacher's cover. "I don't understand why it's such a big deal to them that we didn't tell them," Nary says. "Like, concentrate on yourself." So why didn't they confess the truth? Find out below!

How far behind Vanessa and Ralph were you?
Nary: They said we were close. ... The Speed Bump took maybe 20 to 30 minutes, so I would say within 15 to 30 minutes.
Jamie: I think we were closer than 30 minutes for sure, especially with us running. You know they didn't run that whole way. [Laughs] We ran the whole way, so I would say less than 30 minutes, closer to 15.

Why was the tent so hard for you last week? Was it a height issue or a strength issue? You commented on how you were the only team without a guy.
Jamie: We're both kind of short. We're standing on this rickety table and it was about to break any minute. Everything was just hard. ... I don't know that we needed a guy per se. We could've used some height! [Laughs] Put on a pair of high heels or something. But I was really happy with it. We were absolutely exhausted, but I was super-stoked that we finished it, especially with that stinkin' shower, which was a pain in and of itself.

I liked that you stopped to check out the elephants last week.
Nary: Oh yeah! There was no doubt we were last and we were like, "This is a chance of a lifetime and if we're gonna get eliminated, we're gonna be happy with what we saw right before we got eliminated." I mean, we're in Africa! There's wild life everywhere and to not stop and see a herd of elephants? If there was another team close by at that point, we wouldn't have stopped, but knowing we were last, we were able to and we were in awe.

How long did air supply take you to do? It seemed like you had a chance to pass Vanessa and Ralph, but they got to the clue first.
Jamie: I think we did it as quick as one could do it. I think that was old time that we were trying to make up. I don't think we had ever gained and then lost time; I think we were always trying to slowly gain and gain and gain up on them. After that, I didn't know that they had gotten a flat tire — those taxis were rough — and we were able to catch up to them.

Were you ever worried about getting U-Turned? Art and JJ said you guys were the second target after Brendon and Rachel.
Nary: We did hear that they wanted to get rid of us because of them finding out what we did for a living and they were probably pissed off. We didn't care, but being in last place and being two hours behind Ralph and Vanessa and three hours behind Dave and Rachel, that would've been just been bad gameplay. We didn't think anyone would've U-Turned us because there were teams ahead of us. I don't think we ever thought for sure we would be.
Jamie: It's funny watching the show because you could see how much of a jerk JJ is about that. He was pushing it hardcore even though he never saw us. It wasn't a secret that we were far behind. We were never a threat to them or anyone else really this leg.

I take it you think they were completely over the top with their reaction to Dave and Rachel not U-Turning Brendon and Rachel.
Jamie: Oh, yeah! JJ was definitely out of line. Dave and Rachel were like, "Dude, chill out," and rightfully so. Once they start to get on a roll, they get this arrogance about them that left a super-bad taste in my mouth. I was like, "I wouldn't want to be portrayed like that. They're a bunch of jerks."
Nary: That arrogance was already there in the first episode when they didn't come in first place. And after they won three legs in a row, it made their arrogance just worse.
Jamie: And you know — God forbid they get beaten by two chicks! I mean, they would've died. That's why you saw them go into survivor mode in the airport last week. Everybody started fighting and they immediately confronted us, and then they go to Bopper and say, "Hey, if you want to stay in this game, you need to leave them and stick with us." I think it started to hit them, like, "Crap, if we get beat by two female federal agents, we're never gonna live this down."

What happened with them figuring out what you did? Did you accidentally slip up when you asked about their "undercover work"?
Jamie: It was kind of twofold. ... Everybody's around the campfire, exhausted, and Art is just going on and on about this undercover work. He called it "UC work." Of course, I know what it means. And I know what border patrol does and I know what the majority of what border patrol agents do. So I was like — because I was really sick of him at this point — "Oh, really, Art? What kind of undercover work do you do? And what kind of caseload do you maintain?" He made it seem like that's all he did, like he was living under deep cover with a motorcycle gang! [Laughs] Like, c'mon, Art, let's be real here! So that's how it came out and they made it seem on TV that we didn't have a response when they confronted us, but we did. Our thing was that we didn't tell them because of their approach. There was all this commotion at the airport and then they immediately tried to call us out. Had they done it when things were calm and in a more friendly way, we probably would've told them.

Were Bopper and Mark, and Brendon and Rachel the only teams you told?
Nary: Yes, but of course there was speculation because of Art and JJ. But if you listened, Dave and Rachel still called us teachers in this episode. Bopper and Mark were still calling us teachers. We told Bopper and Mark, and Brendon and Rachel because they were nice about it and they were our friends on the show. It felt like it was our duty as friends to tell them the truth.
Jamie: We cared about what they thought. It was important for us that they didn't feel like we were lying to them about everything. I really did appreciate their friendships and I do still. I wanted them to know that everything that we spoke about our families and friends during downtime was 100 percent true. The teachers thing was the only lie. We wanted them to know that we were genuinely their friends. The other teams? We didn't really have that connection with them.

Do you think you lying about being teachers accomplished what you wanted it to?
Nary: [Laughs] I think it was funny more than anything. In a way, I would say yes. In the watermelon challenge, there's an extra clip online where Art and JJ go, "Go, teachers!" They're looking at us, like, "Look at you girls! You're doing a good job." If they knew what we did then, they would not be saying, "Go, girls!" It was little things like that. Overall, people love teachers, whereas, with agents, people have differing and some negative views about them and might pre-judge us. We wanted people to know who we were as people as opposed to us as our profession.

How did you shoot yourself in the femur, Jamie?
Jamie: We were training and my gun went off while it was in my holster. I don't really still know what happened, but it shattered my femur. I was in the hospital for about a week. I was off work for a long time and I had to do physical therapy just to walk again. We both love to run and my goal was to get back to work and run again. I was quite intimidated early on, with the anxiety that we might get cast, because I didn't want to let Nary down if I couldn't carry something or couldn't run. I wanted to make sure I was there for her. I was working hard before, but I really worked hard for the Race and I didn't feel it at all through the show. It was wonderful. It came through for me.

What are you up to now?
Nary: Back to work!

With caseloads and UC work?
Nary: [Laughs] Hundreds of hours of UC work! Deep cover!
Jamie: Secret's out!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: slayton on April 16, 2012, 06:15:40 PM: http://www.thedeadbolt.com/1003025990-the-amazing-race-undercover-elimination-with-nary-and-jamie.html

The Amazing Race: Undercover Elimination with Nary and Jamie
by Reg Seeton

This week on The Amazing Race, federal agent friends Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz saw their time on the CBS reality series come to an end in Africa.

Although Nary and Jamie caught a break last week on The Amazing Race when they were saved by a non-elimination leg, the two federal agents couldn’t make up time this week despite catching up to Vanessa and Ralph in the final few minutes.

One of the strongest teams of the season, Nary and Jamie ran The Amazing Race under the cover of school teachers without letting anyone know what they really did for a living. However, as fans saw two weeks ago, their Amazing Race cover was almost blown by border patrol agents Art and J.J. who guessed that Nary and Jamie were law enforcement and not teachers as they claimed. Despite attempts by Art and J.J. to get Nary and Jamie to come clean, the girls wouldn’t give up their alias strategy.

Following their elimination from The Amazing Race, The Deadbolt caught up with Nary and Jamie to learn more about the final leg, what went wrong, their teacher strategy, and a funny encounter with a buffalo that Amazing Race fans didn’t see on TV.

THE DEADBOLT: So, how did it feel to go out on such a beautiful leg?

JAMIE GRAETZ: Well, I just feel like if there was a time to go, we picked it right because we got to spend a little more time there [in Africa]. What a beautiful, unbelievable place to be. It was really quite an experience.

THE DEADBOLT: What happened between the art display and the finish line?

NARY EBEID: The main thing was that we had to play catch up for the whole episode. It was very difficult to be two hours behind. Team number one was about to hit the Pit Stop and we’re just taking off. So that was difficult. We were just playing catch up all day and the Double U-Turns did help us.

But when we came across Ralph and Vanessa where our Speed Bump was, we were excited. At the same time, we were like, “Oh, no! We have to do our Speed Bump and now they’re going to get ahead of us.” So we knew they were our last hope. Completing that Speed Bump is what really did us in. We had to do it and there was no getting around it.

THE DEADBOLT: Did you have a strategy for the Double U-turn if you got the chance to use it?

JAMIE: I don’t even remember if we talked about it. Our intentions were never to U-Turn anybody unless we really had to. We discussed that with Mark and Bopper and Brendon and Rachel. We would have helped tham out as well if the U-Turn would have helped them. But we knew the U-Turn was coming and we knew that we were already two hours behind the pack, so it was pretty likely that we wouldn’t be the ones U-Turning anybody.

THE DEADBOLT: How do you both feel the teacher strategy helped you in the long run?

NARY: It was a strategy we came up with well before going on the show. But one of the main reasons we came up with it was for U-Turning. The U-Turn came at a point where it didn’t really matter anymore. I’m not sure if the strategy worked in any way, but that’s why we came up with it, was for U-Turning. I don’t know if I would say that we got anything out of it or didn’t get anything out of it, but it was fun. It was fun to play undercover for the last time.

THE DEADBOLT: What did you think after Art and J.J. confronted you about it?

JAMIE: Art and J.J. were involved in the whole scuffle that was going in the airport, which is pretty embarassing. I was quite surprised that these guys in their mid-40s that were well-supervised individuals at their department would lower themselves and jump into a stupid high-school bickering session. And then to go further than that, that they would then bring it our way.

Nary and I had made a conscious decision, because we knew they were going to try to come over. They were starting to ruffle their feathers and starting to say, “Hey, Nary and Jamie, come over here.” So we knew it didn’t matter what we said. But there was no way we were going to tell them what we really did. We just figured that we’ll let them guess since they weren’t our friends.

Had they approached us in a more decent manner that was more sincere, we probably would have told them, because it wasn’t that big of a deal at that point. I didn’t care for them. And at that point I probably could have told them that it was any other profession, I just wasn’t going to give them the satisfaction of knowing.

THE DEADBOLT: You both seemed to fly under the radar as far as all of the drama with the other teams. How did you stay away from it?

NARY: Jamie and I have never been into all of the drama. Once we see that, we’re actually embarrassed for them and we just steer in the other direction. To me, it’s embarrassing. Everyone’s older and it’s just an unprofessional thing to do. To me, it just gets you nowhere.

So Jamie and I, even though we can get underneath each other’s skin, we just always knew that we’re here to do our thing, we’re here to race, and yelling at each other isn’t going to get you anywhere when arguing with another team. We didn’t care for Vanessa, and we didn’t care for Art and J.J., but we weren’t going to argue with them. We didn’t care to. It wasn’t going to gain anything for us.

THE DEADBOLT: Was there anything from the race you wish we saw that wasn’t aired on TV?

JAMIE: We had this incredible experience after we made that wonderful tent and we had to sleep in it. Right when we were all trying to use the restroom before we got in our tent, this buffalo came out of nowhere. So they yelled at us to get in our tent, which you could see on TV was not with the other tents. It was all by its lonesome. A huge buffalo, which are very dangerous in Africa, decided to graze around our tent all night long. I was on high alert the whole night while Nary snored away.

It was just a great memory because when in your life will you experience that again? It was inches from the window when I unzipped it to see what the noise was. There was this huge buffalo! Mark and Bopper at one point wanted to try and save us but Mark talked Bopper down.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: slayton on April 16, 2012, 06:22:21 PM: http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-nary-ebeid-and-jamie-graetz-talk-the-amazing-race-13376.php

By Elizabeth Kwiatkowski, 04/16/2012

Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz were eliminated from The Amazing Race's twentieth season during Sunday night's broadcast of the CBS reality competition.

The "Federal Agents and Friends" team became the sixth team eliminated from the around-the-world competition after they arrived at the Race's eighth Pit Stop at Lake Manyara, which Ernest Hemingway had described as the loveliest lake in Africa, in last place due to having to complete an additional Speed Bump task and leaving the seventh Pit Stop hours behind the other teams -- putting them in last place and leaving them little opportunity to ever catch up and surpass their fellow Racers.

On Monday, Nary and Jamie talked to Reality TV World about their The Amazing Race experience -- including why they didn't get along with Art Velez and J.J. Carrell, who they would've U-Turned had they gotten the chance to, which Racers they became friends with and whom they had no intention to befriend, and what their mindset was heading to the Pit Stop after they had just survived the prior non-elimination leg.

Reality TV World: How far behind Vanessa Macias and Ralph Kelley do you think you guys finally arrived at the Pit Stop? The show made it look you guys were pretty far behind considering you had to complete that Speed Bump painting task when Vanessa and Ralph got to move forward in the Race and head towards the Roadblock task.

Nary Ebeid: We don't know for sure to this day. We are guessing -- we heard it was close, but we're assuming it was between 15-20 minutes. So close enough! I mean, it's pretty surprising. Of course we were already two hours behind and then they had to do the extra Detour for the U-Turn and then they had a flat tire, which we didn't know anything about.

Jamie Graetz: But then again, when we caught up to where our Speed Bump was, it was kind of heart-wrenching to know we still have to complete a Speed Bump. We were ecstatic that we caught up and once we had that Speed Bump, we knew it was going to put us behind again.

Reality TV World: So it sounds like you think the Speed Bump task was ultimately responsible for your elimination, right? Do you think the fact you guys had started out the leg about two hours or more behind all the other teams made much of a difference?

Nary Ebeid: No, I mean it did, because we were just playing catch-up all day. I mean, it's like, the Speed Bump was where we ended up catching up, but I mean, if you want to say that's what it ultimately was, I don't know if that's what it ultimately was because we were already two hours behind. So it was just playing catch-up all day.

Reality TV World: How long do you think it took you to complete that Speed Bump task and was it challenging or pretty easy?

Jamie Graetz: I think it -- I mean, that Speed Bump task wasn't very difficult. I would say maybe 15-20 minutes. I mean, it really was -- you just looked at that paper. So what I did was, Nary picked out the items I needed and I pretty much arranged the wall.

So, she actually picked them out, I hung them and we kind of had a great system going. It was done rather quickly. The only minor thing was maybe that it was windy, but I think we did it as fast as one could finish it. So, it wasn't that big of a deal.

Reality TV World: When you two arrived at the Double U-Turn board, were you surprised that no teams decided to U-Turn you guys? Why did you think that was at the time and were you surprised to see that Rachel Reilly and Brendon Villegas and Vanessa and Ralph were U-Turned instead or no?

Nary Ebeid: We weren't surprised that Rachel and Brendon were U-Turned. We had a feeling somebody was going to U-Turn them. And then of course knowing that whoever's behind Rachel and Brendon -- we were friends with Rachel and Brendon, so the only other teams for them to U-Turn -- because they were of course kind of fighting constantly with Ralph and Vanessa, they figured, "Hell, we're going to U-Turn them."

But I mean, U-Turning us, we never really felt that was much of an option only because we were so far behind. I mean, we were three hours and change behind team number one. So they knew. I mean they were pretty much already at the Pit Stop before we even like started.

It's like, they didn't even show us until the middle of the episode. "Okay, Nary and Jamie are finally taking off now." So we never really discussed it, but I don't think it was ever that much -- I mean, of course it was always an option -- but it never really crossed our minds that we were going to be U-Turned.

Reality TV World: It sounds like you think Brendon and Rachel's decision to U-Turn Vanessa and Ralph was simply due to personal issues rather than believing Vanessa and Ralph were a real threat in the Race, right?

Jamie Graetz: I think it was two-fold. I think they were probably pretty happy to -- and willing, more than willing -- to U-Turn them. But also, I would like to think -- I mean, they were our friends and we were working together. If there was a chance, [we thought] that that would help us to try to catch up, and so, it was darn close. That's for sure. But it just wasn't quite enough.

Reality TV World: Had you have gotten to that Double U-Turn before the other teams, who do you think you would have U-Turned in the Race hypothetically speaking? Who do you think it would have been strategically smart to slow down?

Nary Ebeid: Me personally, if I'm in first place and I know that I have a huge gap between me and the last team, I probably wouldn't have U-Turned anybody. Jamie, on the other hand, thinks a little differently only if it was a little closer, I think.

Jamie Graetz: Yeah, if there was a big gap, I don't think I would have U-Turned anyone anyways. I mean, I wouldn't have minded a bit U-Turning Art and J.J. just for sh-t's sake. But I don't know. At the time, I don't honestly think I would have. I think my animosity towards them has just kind of boiled since since I've watched the show.

I've seen how they've treated people and what not, and I don't care for them. But then, yeah. I probably wouldn't have U-Turned anybody. But I just thought it was pretty interesting that he had quite a fit over the fact [Rachel Brown and Dave Brown] didn't U-Turn us. We had no idea that that had happened.

Reality TV World: What were your reactions when you watched the show last night and found out Rachel and Dave chose not to honor their agreement with Art and J.J. to U-Turn Rachel and Brendon? Do you think that was a smart move on their part or a bad move, and why?

Nary Ebeid: To me, I think they were smart actually.

Jamie Graetz: Yeah.

Nary Ebeid: They know we're three hours behind just like Rachel said at the very end. She was like, "The teachers are way behind," you know? So what was the point? There's no point in U-Turning anybody.

We're three hours and change behind them, so why have this animosity that close to the end with these other teams -- pissing other teams off and U-Turning? So I actually thought they were smart. I mean, just because you made that pact, who cares. You race the way you race. Don't worry about how the other teams are.

Jamie Graetz: But his thing was that he wanted them to U-Turn Brendon and Rachel, and then they would've U-Turned us.

Nary Ebeid: Us, yeah.

Jamie Graetz: Which is just, like, awful.

Nary Ebeid: Yeah, which he's an idiot. But yeah. I totally agree with their decision. I think that's good they're not getting bullied by someone else, you know? They're playing their own game and "Amen" to that, you know?

Reality TV World: Not much was shown of you girls completing the honey harvesting Roadblock task. Just to clarify, did you complete that task or were you so far behind the producers just let you head to the Pit Stop? If you did complete the Roadblock, who did it and how long did it take you?

Nary Ebeid: I actually am the one who did that challenge and they did show a very brief part of me doing the challenge.

Jamie Graetz: You did it really fast.

Nary Ebeid: Yeah, I did it, I guess, pretty fast. But nope. We never thought once like -- we thought they could have potentially gotten lost -- maybe they screwed up in that challenge. We didn't know what was coming next once we got there. We were the only ones there, so we didn't know if they had completed it or not, so we never gave up. We were still gung-ho running.

I had to put a long-sleeved shirt on because I had to put the suit on, and Jamie was like, "Are you not hot? Are you going to run in that shirt?" I'm like, "I don't care. We need to go." I didn't care. I was just like, "We just need to go. We don't know how far back we are." So no, we never gave up at all in anything we did. We completed every task at hand.

Reality TV World: Although you remained optimistic, I'm sure it crossed your minds that you were likely to arrive at the Pit Stop in last place. So what did you think your chances were the leg would be a back-to-back non-elimination leg? Did you think there was a good shot it could happen or did you see that as a real longshot?

Jamie Graetz: We knew that that was not going to happen twice. I mean, that's for sure. Once she completed the bee task, we were 99.9% percent sure that we were going to get eliminated because we knew Ralph and Vanessa had been ahead of us unless that slimmed into an act of God happening and they were stuck behind us. We knew we would be eliminated, but we ran.

And that was a far run from the bees to the Pit Stop and it showed most of the teams walking, but we ran the whole way. Somebody made a comment to us after. They said they really appreciated us fighting to the very end and running the whole way to the Pit Stop. Yeah, that just kind of shows the character that we are. We weren't going to give up even though we pretty much knew our fate.

And it had been confirmed when [Phil Keoghan] told us we had been eliminated, but you know, we'd still do the same thing over again. You just kind of -- when you have a task, we're going to complete it and we're going to fight until the very end.

Reality TV World: What made you girls decide to do the "Air Supply" Detour task and about how long did it take you? Was it pretty easy to complete or more difficult than it looked during last night's episode?

Nary Ebeid: When we first got to the task, I actually thought the water task would be faster, but Jamie was like, "I think we should do the 'Air Supply' task." And I was like, "Okay if you think so then we're just going to go to the "Air Supply." So on our way there, we end up bumping into Brendon and Rachel, and they told us, "Hey, do the 'Air Supply.' It's faster."

Because they had to complete both challenges because of the U-Turn, so that of course helped in our head like, "Okay fine. This one's going to be a lot faster," because as you saw, they had to wait in this long line and carry these heavy jugs of water. And actually, I would say it took us about 20 minutes or so to complete. It actually was pretty quick.

Jamie Graetz: Mhmm.

Reality TV World: You guys decided to tell all your fellow Racers you were kindergarten teachers rather than federal agents. Could you elaborate a little more on why you did that? Did you think telling the other teams what your real professions were would have really made them that much more intimidated by you girls? And looking back, are you glad you came up with the story or do you kind of wish you had been honest for any reason?

Jamie Graetz: I think that I would have done the same thing over again if we started the game again tomorrow. You just don't know going in who your competitors are and you don't know where they come from.

And coincidentally, we had other law enforcement people that were contestants as well. But see, you can kind of look at that as two guys, as in Art and J.J., in the federal system could have potentially seen us as the threat because they don't want to get beaten by two women that are federal agents.

So, they could have wanted to eliminate -- if we had a U-Turn earlier -- try to get us out, or the flip side to that is, we could've all maybe worked together, as in being the law-enforcement pack trying to get rid of other people. So, you just don't know how people are going to react. You don't know what their strategy is and if nothing else, it was funny.

It was fun and you know, the way it was portrayed on TV showed it as if we were maybe stunned or shocked by Art and J.J., and that really wasn't the case. They kind of came at us a little foul and they had just been in this altercation and fighting in the airport with all these other people, which was completely embarrassing, and then they tried to bring it towards us.

And we weren't going to go there. That's not how we treat people and frankly, had he approached us on the side as like a friend or under cordial conditions, we would have probably told them. But at that place and at that time, I could have told them I was a janitor. I wouldn't have cared. I wouldn't have told him what we really were just to give him that satisfaction.

Reality TV World: Were you girls surprised at all that Art and J.J. were suspicious of you and came onto your stories when they did or did you figure that was going to happen based on the conversations you were having with them during the Race?

Jamie Graetz: Really, I was really just full of Art. I had had enough. I heard enough. He's rambling on to everybody -- to ears that don't understand really what he's talking about. And so, it's like when you have somebody that does understand -- which the whole discussion was about UC, which is undercover work -- and he was kind of tooting his own horn.

I, at 4:30 in the morning with no sleep and was freezing, thought he was just kind of full of it. And so, I did make a couple comments and knew that it was probably risky because most people -- civilians -- don't know the lingo, and I didn't care (laughs) at that point. And so, they think they're pretty much these really good detectives for finding out, and it wasn't rocket science at that point.

Reality TV World: During last week's episode, Art and J.J. told Rachel and Brendon they thought you were police officers because kindergarten teachers would be more "bouncy" and "social." What was your reaction to that? Would you girls say they had a point in that you were a little more quiet and reserved during the Race, or would you say they got the wrong impressions of you while on the show?

Nary Ebeid: Jamie and I were running the Race pretty much we felt like, "We're here to run the Race. We're not here to Oh..." I mean, we made friends, but we're just focusing on the task at hand. That's how we were. So maybe because we weren't friends with them and we didn't sit and chat with them, that's kind of how they portrayed it, I guess.

It's just like, "I'm sorry, because we're not kissing your ass and we're not friendly toward you and all curious about your profession" -- that's probably why.

Jamie Graetz: ... Which is so funny because you and I, of all people -- compared to other women that we work around, although there aren't very many -- we totally goof around. We laugh. That's totally what people think of us at work. We're like bubbly, friendly, joking around -- and I was like, "You just don't know us," you know? (Laughs)

And the other thing is, we always did better on our own. We never wanted to follow people and that was always a big thing too. A lot of times, they would all come together to kind of strategize like, "What should we do? Should we go this way? Should we do that?" And meanwhile, Nary and I would just run by and go in a different direction, because we just operate much better on our own.

And so, they saw us as being cold and withdrawn because we weren't trying to follow people. That's just not what we did, you know? It wasn't successful for us to follow people around.

Nary Ebeid: Yeah, but even from the very beginning when... everyone was introducing each other, I don't recalling [Art and J.J.] being very friendly either towards us.

It's not like they even tried to be friendly with us, so we kind of got a vibe from them -- a different vibe than we got from Brendon and Rachel, who were asking questions and [being] more friendly. [Art and J.J.] barely talked to us, so it's like, "Well, then we have nothing to talk about." And that's why they said that -- because we didn't talk to them or kiss their ass.

Reality TV World: There has clearly been a lot of tension between Rachel and Brendon and Vanessa and Ralph this season. How much of that were you two aware of while you were racing with them? Did you think one team was more at fault for starting arguments than the other or would you say they both were equally responsible for causing drama?

Jamie Graetz: I mean, once it got rolling, I think they were equally as responsible. We kept telling Rachel, "Just who cares what Vanessa says. Who cares if she says you're like 100 pounds overweight. Like, who cares." But she lets stuff get to her.

She reacts maybe not how we would, but okay. But you know what? I kind of felt like Vanessa, definitely with her mouth, could definitely let things brew -- just the way she pops off.

I just never got a good feeling about Vanessa. She spoke poorly -- or basically, for lack of better terms, she talked sh-t about everybody. I just didn't think she was a very nice person and I think -- you can see it on TV -- how she reacts to Ralph, whom I thought was probably a pretty decent guy.

But we didn't want to hang out with them because we couldn't stand her. Vanessa's just not a nice individual and so, you know, Rachel yeah, would throw it back at her. But Vanessa, I think, started a lot of it to be honest.

Reality TV World: How were you cast on The Amazing Race? Was it your first time applying for the show and would you ever consider doing an all-stars edition if you were given the opportunity?

Nary Ebeid: We just applied and we got in, so we got very lucky, I have to say. The process went pretty smoothly, we were happy about it and if we were asked to go on again -- I mean, The Amazing Race is the experience of a lifetime. And to be able to have such a chance at it, absolutely.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: AmazingRace on April 17, 2012, 02:57:30 AM: :hrt: these girls so much!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: starrynight on April 17, 2012, 04:21:31 AM: Thanks for the interviews, and that confirms my last post as to the reason they didn't tell Art and JJ. Also interesting to hear more about Art. I still think JJ is probably the more annoying but Art isn't far behind I guess. :D Not surprising to hear Jamie say she is getting even more angry with them watching the programs.

And I like to hear about the friendships as well, that Jamie thinks Rachel/Brendon had them partly in mind with the u-turn and that they helped them in deciding which detour to choose as well as pointing them in the right direction at one point (which was shown in the program). Also Bopper and Mark obviously helped them out a bit more than just at the harp task. Definitely my favourite teams of this season. Any of these three for allstars, more than one as I'm greedy. :D
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Theo on April 17, 2012, 05:22:04 AM: They are definitely a funny team :lol: I wonder why they didn't show how funny this team is at the beginning of the race :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Bluesky on April 17, 2012, 09:33:30 AM: Quote from: Theodorus on April 17, 2012, 05:22:04 AM
They are definitely a funny team :lol: I wonder why they didn't show how funny this team is at the beginning of the race :duno:

Precisely because they went undercover.

Obviously this season was set up to be one of controversy, drama and inter-team squabbles (unfortunately; although I know some members delight in the drama, I detest it).

You can see how the producers set up multiple potential dynamics - Kentucky boys vs. Mississippi girls; three young(ish) male/female teams guaranteed to squabble among themselves and hopefully with each other; two young male teams vs each other; two young male teams vs two young female teams; etc, etc. Some worked, some did not.

And two male law enforcement types vs two female law enforcement types.

However, Jamie and Nary removed that dynamic by pretending to be teachers. Furthermore, they stayed out of most of the squabbles. In the eyes of the producers/editors, this made them relatively boring and undeserving of screen time, especially at the beginning when there were plenty of absurd drama moments from other teams who later went out.

(From the very beginning, the clowns were an exception to this drama dynamic, and also obviously had no hope of contending vs most of the other teams. I wonder if the producers hoped and hunted for a different sort of team and were unable to find one.)
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Prophet on April 17, 2012, 01:16:48 PM: Here's their elim interview from CBS:

Elimination Interview: Nary & Jamie

Posted on Apr 17, 2012 02:02pm

We asked Nary and Jamie questions that YOU (the fans!) sent in via Facebook and Twitter! See what they had to say about their time on The Amazing Race!

Daniela S.: do you think you would have gotten futher if you would have been honest about what you do for a living?
Nary: No - I don't think it would have made a difference in our Race game.
Jamie: I completely agree.

Diane P.: You ladies were most professional and gave it a good run, would you have done anything different?
Nary and Jamie: I don't think we would have done anything different. We were very happy with how we ran and would do it the exact same way if we were to run it again tomorrow.

Cammy W.: What is one item or knowledge you wish you would of had or attained for the race? Great run ladies! You ran the race well!
Jamie: I would have brought ear plugs and an air pillow!
Nary: A pillow would have been great because I had to borrow Bopper's.

Paola C.: If you were to make an alliance with other teams, who would you choose and why?
Nary: If we were to create an alliance it would probably be Mark and Bopper and Brendon and Rachel. They were our best friends on the Race.

Emily A.: How has your friendship/working dynamic changed since being on the show?
Jamie: I don't think it has changed at all. Our friendship has gotten stronger since our experience on the Race. As far as work... Nary tends to get noticed more but nothing has really changed.

Robin H.: Looking back, do you think keeping your real profession a secret helped you? How so?
Nary: I don't think it necessarily helped us or harmed us. The main reason we did it was for u-turning purposes and the u-turn came at a point where it didn't really matter anymore.

http://www.cbs.com/shows/amazing_race/elimination_interviews/106987/
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: apskip on April 17, 2012, 04:08:21 PM: Quote from: Bluesky on April 17, 2012, 09:33:30 AM
Quote from: Theodorus on April 17, 2012, 05:22:04 AM
They are definitely a funny team :lol: I wonder why they didn't show how funny this team is at the beginning of the race :duno:

Precisely because they went undercover.

Obviously this season was set up to be one of controversy, drama and inter-team squabbles (unfortunately; although I know some members delight in the drama, I detest it).

You can see how the producers set up multiple potential dynamics - Kentucky boys vs. Mississippi girls; three young(ish) male/female teams guaranteed to squabble among themselves and hopefully with each other; two young male teams vs each other; two young male teams vs two young female teams; etc, etc. Some worked, some did not.

And two male law enforcement types vs two female law enforcement types.

However, Jamie and Nary removed that dynamic by pretending to be teachers. Furthermore, they stayed out of most of the squabbles. In the eyes of the producers/editors, this made them relatively boring and undeserving of screen time, especially at the beginning when there were plenty of absurd drama moments from other teams who later went out.

(From the very beginning, the clowns were an exception to this drama dynamic, and also obviously had no hope of contending vs most of the other teams. I wonder if the producers hoped and hunted for a different sort of team and were unable to find one.)

The Clowns were eliminated due to Dave's inability to do math in his head. It's hard to say how well they might have done if that had not happened.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: slayton on April 17, 2012, 05:27:46 PM: http://www.realitywanted.com/newsitem/5309-the-amazing-race-20-exclusive-interview-with-nary-ebeid-and-jamie-graetz

The Amazing Race 20: Exclusive Interview with Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz

Posted on 04/17/2012

by Gina Scarpa

Going into this week's leg of The Amazing Race, Nary and Jamie knew they had their work cut out for them. After coming in last and survivor a non-elimination leg, they had a Speed Bump to complete and a lot of time to make up. Despite two teams being U-Turned, the federal agents couldn't make up enough time to stay in it and they were eliminated. Today, we talked to them in an exclusive interview about lying about their profession, the team they did not want to work with, and whether or not they could've stayed in The Amazing Race.

Q. Gina, RealityWanted: Whose idea was it to try out for The Amazing Race?
A. Jamie: I think it was my idea initially. I basically printed out the application and told Nary to fill it out. It all happened so fast! I went online and it was due within an hour. I panicked and filled it out like a crazy person.

Q. Gina, RealityWanted: Why did you feel lying about being federal agents was a good move, especially with the Big Brother team in the mix? They definitely had the biggest target on their backs.
A. Nary: The main reason why we lied to begin with was that people perceive law enforcement very differently. We wanted people to meet us as individuals and not portray us as federal agents. That was one reason and then, we felt like we could also be looked at as a threat. Stuff like that. Most people like teachers and that's why we decided to use that profession. In regards to the other contestants, we didn't know we would have other law enforcement agents, military, Big Brother players. That's something we planned out in advance.

Q. Gina, RealityWanted: Art and JJ figured out that you guys were agents. Do you think that, because you had law enforcement in common, you could have worked together?
A. Jamie: I mean, in hindsight, people would think, "They're federal agents, they're federal agents. Why not work with them?" They made me dislike them. I don't care if I'm knee deep in quicksand, I'm going to look to Nary for help. Trying to work with them... no. We can handle it on our own. That's kind of how we operate. Yes, we were great friends with Mark and Bopper and we got along with Brendon and Rachel. We did so much better operating on our own. Calling it an alliance is a strong word but when we got a chance to help Mark and Bopper, we did. Same thing with Brendon and Rachel.

Q. Gina, RealityWanted: People have had strong opinions of Brendon and Rachel ever since they first appeared on Big Brother. Why do you think everyone had such a problem with them - because of their strong personalities or because they've already been on a reality show, twice, and Rachel won?
A. Nary: That, for sure, is one. Yeah, she won on Big Brother. People were like, "She already won something," and people already had a bad taste in their mouths. Knowing them as people, from what you see on tv, they're actually really nice people.
A. Jamie: We had never seen them when she was whining and crying. We were doing our own tasks at the time. Seeing that on tv was totally new for us. Did it drive me bananas? Absolutely! It's like, "Girl, you're better than that!" She knows how to get their airtime. She knows what she's doing.

Q. Gina, RealityWanted: One thing that is rough about watching The Amazing Race is listening to the couples fight with one another. It seems much better to run with a friend, like the two of you or Mark and Bopper.
A. Nary: We actually did say that! We said it would be really tough on a relationship. Jamie and I probably did annoy each other and it happens! That's gonna happen! But do it with a significant other, seeing it, we're like, "Oh my god! Thank god!" JJ said it right. He said, "And this is why we're not here with our wives!" It's gotta be tough on those relationships.

Q. Gina, RealityWanted: Teams didn't U-Turn you this week because you were so far behind but you did come close to catching up. Are you glad you weren't targeted?
A. Jamie: You could tell we were behind. We were hours behind but we made up great time. Without a stabilizer like a train station or an airport, it was really against us. When Mark and Bopper had their Speed Bump, eventually, we all caught up together at a train station. Those are the only ways you're really going to catch up. It would've been silly for Art and JJ to U-Turn us. Would it have changed the ending? Not a bit.

Q. Gina, RealityWanted: How did you handle your elimination?
A. Nary: I mean, at that point, we could've been eliminated the episode prior. We knew that if we came in last this time, we'd be eliminated. We knew our chances were slim. It was emotional because we're still competitive and hate to lose but when we look back on it, it's like, "There's nothing we could've done better. We ran a really good race and we're proud of ourselves and we're happy." If we had to go out like that, there's nothing we could've done.

Q. Gina, RealityWanted: Of all the countries you visited along the race, which one would you most want to go back to?
A. Jamie: I think I'd go back to Africa. I'd go back and go on a safari.
A. Nary: Tanzania was just amazing! I'm so glad we got to see it. It's something I've always wanted to do. I actually liked Paraguay too.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Bluesky on April 17, 2012, 05:37:50 PM: Quote from: apskip on April 17, 2012, 04:08:21 PM
Quote from: Bluesky on April 17, 2012, 09:33:30 AM
Quote from: Theodorus on April 17, 2012, 05:22:04 AM
They are definitely a funny team :lol: I wonder why they didn't show how funny this team is at the beginning of the race :duno:

Precisely because they went undercover.

Obviously this season was set up to be one of controversy, drama and inter-team squabbles (unfortunately; although I know some members delight in the drama, I detest it).

You can see how the producers set up multiple potential dynamics - Kentucky boys vs. Mississippi girls; three young(ish) male/female teams guaranteed to squabble among themselves and hopefully with each other; two young male teams vs each other; two young male teams vs two young female teams; etc, etc. Some worked, some did not.

And two male law enforcement types vs two female law enforcement types.

However, Jamie and Nary removed that dynamic by pretending to be teachers. Furthermore, they stayed out of most of the squabbles. In the eyes of the producers/editors, this made them relatively boring and undeserving of screen time, especially at the beginning when there were plenty of absurd drama moments from other teams who later went out.

(From the very beginning, the clowns were an exception to this drama dynamic, and also obviously had no hope of contending vs most of the other teams. I wonder if the producers hoped and hunted for a different sort of team and were unable to find one.)

The Clowns were eliminated due to Dave's inability to do math in his head. It's hard to say how well they might have done if that had not happened.

Apskip, you are absolutely right. Anything might have happened had they not gone out in that task, "obviously had no hope" is an overstatement on my part.

I should have said something more like from day one, to those of us here at bluesky central, that team just didn't seem to fit the same pattern as the other teams. Almost like they would have fit better on the prior season.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2012, 05:51:39 PM: :tu SO much Slayton for all the Interviews!! That is a huge help!!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2012, 05:52:58 PM: Quote from: Bluesky on April 17, 2012, 09:33:30 AM
Precisely because they went undercover.

Obviously this season was set up to be one of controversy, drama and inter-team squabbles (unfortunately; although I know some members delight in the drama, I detest it).

Me too!!

:bigwelcome to RFF, Bluesky!!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: slayton on April 17, 2012, 07:11:50 PM: http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/the-fien-print/posts/hitfix-interview-jamie-nary-talk-the-amazing-race

HitFix Interview: Jamie & Nary talk 'The Amazing Race'

The federal agents talk tent-building and teacher-playing

By Daniel Fienberg

There are two very different approaches to touting your credentials as a federal agent on a reality TV show.

There's The Phillip Sheppard Method: The "Survivor" contestant announced his credentials as a former federal agent so early and so often and with such outspoken enthusiasm that his fellow contestants either doubted his background or doubted his sanity. He made it to the end of the season in part because Boston Rob knew he couldn't possibly win and carried him along.

Then there's The Jamie & Nary Method: The "Amazing Race" team decided they were going to tell their competition that they actually worked as teachers, rather than as federal agents. This strange plan sprung a leak when another team, border agents, began to suspect them of being in law enforcement. This led to fighting and variably passive aggressive hostilities, but not much else.

Jamie Graetz & Nary Ebeid were able to weather their difficulties with Art & JJ, but the federal agents were unable to overcome a multi-hour deficit and a Speed-Bump on last Sunday's (April 15) Leg of "The Amazing Race."

It was still a solid run for Jamie & Nary, who made it through more than half of the Race without internal bickering and definitely came out of FederalAgentGate looking saner than Art & JJ.

In their exit interview, Jamie and Nary discuss the strategy behind their professional obfuscation as well as the difficulties of the tent-building challenge that ultimately proved to be their undoing.

Click through for the full interview...

HitFix: You guys came into this last Leg with a major time deficit. Did you know exactly how far behind you were?

Jamie Graetz: Yeah. When we started the last Leg of the Race, we knew we were hours behind. Everybody did that crater, which took about an hour, and that was great, because we could enjoy it and take our heads out of the game for a minute, but then we knew as soon as that was over that we had to hit the ground running and make up some serious time.

HitFix: What does it do for your mindset going into a Leg with that sort of deficit, knowing that you have no margin-for-error, but also that you've got a bigger deficit coming because of the Speed-Bump?

Nary Ebeid: I think Jamie and I always had a good attitude about everything we did. So knowing we were still behind, we always knew that there was room for error from the other teams. We also knew that there was a U-Turn and we pretty much had a feeling that two teams were going to be U-Turned. so we knew that there was still potential for us to catch up. We never put it in our heads that, "We're done and we're going to do this slow and we don't care and we're going to walk to the Pit Stop. We don't care. We're gonna take our time." We never had that in our head. We ran all the way through. We raced the entire way, no matter what, because something can happen along the way. You never know. And that's how we were racing all the way through to the end.

HitFix: And was it easy to set the Race aside to actually enjoy that hour ride through the crater?

Jamie: I think that for us, it was pretty easy to. We kinda were already in a certain place and we were like, "OK. Today's gonna be a tough day, but we're OK with however it ends, as long as we're safe and we have a good time." So we were taking it all in and it was probably pretty hard not to. You can't really explain with words the scenery and the animals. It was really an amazing, unbelievable experience. We really appreciate that the show did that for us. You come and go from these countries so quickly and sometimes it's only at night and you don't really get to see much, so I was super-appreciative that the show gave us that time to appreciate where we were. It was very likely that none of us will ever get back there again.

Nary: The Ngorongoro Crater is just a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and it's just an absolutely breathtaking thing to see. The wildlife is just right next to your vehicle and it's something I've always wanted to do and I got to check it off of my bucket list that I went on an African safari. It was just an amazing, amazing experience. Just being able to take your head out of the game and enjoy what you were doing was just an unbelievable experience.

HitFix: What went through your heads when you spotted the other teams in Karatu and you realized that at least you were going to see them and maybe even have a chance to catch up?

Jamie: We did run into Brendon and Rachel and they had confirmed, after we chose to do Air Supply, the bike challenge, they did confirm that that was the easier one to do, but besides seeing them, which was a great feeling, the big thing was when we were doing the Speed-Bump and we saw Ralph and Vanessa. That was like a huge eye-opener. We were like "Wow. The only thing that separates us right now is the Speed-Bump." That probably took us maybe 15 or 20 minutes to do. If you watched the previous episode, you saw that we beat the Mississippi Girls because they got lost, so I had in my mind, "Well shoot. What if the tax cab doesn't know where to go? Or what if it breaks down?" So the 15 or 20 minutes that were separating us, i.e. the Speed-Bump, that was pretty impressive. We made up hours worth of time. So that was a little spark under our butts.

HitFix: And then was there a moment when you saw what the Roadblock actually was and you saw that the bees and honey harvesting weren't going to be challenging? Was there a moment of disappointment when you saw it wasn't going to be more time-consuming than that?

Nary: It was a fast challenge. It actually went faster than I thought. Then, of course, we were the only ones there and it was like, "OK. Maybe they did come through and they're already at the Pit Stop" or "Maybe they didn't find this place." Because we completed that task so fast, we thought, "Wow. We did this quick. Maybe somebody else took a longer time." So seeing that challenge didn't stop us in any way or mess with our heads in any way. It was just, "We have a task. We need to finish it. And we need to keep moving." So that's just how we had it in our heads the whole time.

HitFix: What are your thoughts now reflecting back on the tent-building task? That's pretty much what did you guys in, right?

Jamie: Yeah, that was a doozy. It was tough. It set us back. We both feel like it was hard for many reasons. We're not very big people. It was hard for us to get the structure set. It was also tough because, you kinda tell, but they're just canvas bags full of poles. There's no instructions on how to put it up. You're just looking at a ton of poles and they're rusty and they don't fit in together well and there's no oil. Everything was not easy, I guess you can say. Every part of that was hard. Everything was heavy. Not to complain, because we got it done, but when you look at it, it just wasn't an easy task and it did slow us down. Then, unfortunately for us the next day, we didn't end up meeting at an airport and waiting for a flight or anything, which ultimately gives teams time to catch up. In a lot of circumstances they do. Mark & Bopper were living to see another day because they caught up at a train station. We just never got that opportunity. It unfortunately went to another Pit Stop and, for us, there was just not enough time in the day to catch up.

HitFix: You mentioned that you guys are not the biggest team. Did you feel like there was, I don't want to say "gender bias," but did you guys feel like you guys were at a disadvantage that there was nothing you could do about?

Nary: I wouldn't necessarily say that there was "bias," but then on the flip side, if there were other female teams, they probably would have had just as hard a time as we did. This thing was super-tall. The pieces were heavy. Ralph just threw the thing over his shoulder and walked away. Jamie and I had to carry them together, because they were heavy. And reaching up for the pieces, we were stepping up on a wobbly table to try to reach. Putting some of these pieces together, like Jamie said, they're rusty. They're hard. It's tough. Some of the stuff, I felt like I was using all of might and I was like, "OK. If I can't get these pieces together, I don't know what we're going to do," because they were tough to get together. Getting that base, in and of itself... And then it's so high and you're trying to throw the tarp over it. There was a lot that came into play and if you had somebody taller and maybe somebody stronger, yeah, that would have helped. But I don't know if I would necessarily say "gender bias," because what if you had a woman who was really tall or really big and strong?

HitFix: OK. Talk me through the decision to not tell the other teams about your actual jobs?

Jamie: It was just our strategy. We came up with the strategy prior to the beginning of the Race. In our experience -- I've been on over eight years and Nary's been on over six years -- you come across people who don't know anything about you, but when they find out that you work for the government or in law enforcement, they already have stereotypes and a lot of those are bad, or skewed. So we thought that to get on a more even playing field and people can get to know us for who we are and based off of our actions and what we say, they'll be like, "Oh, Nary and Jamie are like this, because this is what we've seen." That's all we really wanted. It wasn't that we thought we were better than anybody. That was just our strategy. We didn't know U-Turns were going to come into the game pretty late, towards the end. We also didn't know and it turned out that there were several people in law enforcement and the military. That can be seen as A) "Oh, we can all work together" or it can also be B) The opposite, where you can be like, "Oh, well they too are federal agents and if we get beaten by two female federal agents, we're never going to live this down at work." I think that's probably why Art and JJ wanted us out towards the end. They were conspiring with Bopper to try to get rid of us and Bopper wasn't having it. They probably were like, "Man, if we get beaten by two women, we're never gonna hear the end of it." If nothing else, I thought it was funny. I think it's funny when we were stacking watermelons and Art & JJ were like, "Go teachers!" That made me laugh. I thought it was funny. We I had to do it again, I'd do it again. I thought it was funny.

HitFix: It seemed like you guys might have been perfectly happy to admit what you did, but you objected to the way Art & JJ sorta tried to out you. What did you guys think about their approach in that circumstance?

Nary: Jamie and I said if from beforehand: If they approached us in a professional manner and they were like, "Hey. This was said. That was said. We came up with this conclusion. Is it true?" in a more cordial manner, we probably would have said, "Yes we are. It was a strategy and that's why we lied and said we were teachers." But the way it was approached... Vanessa and Rachel were fighting and it's embarrassing, in the airport, and we were extremely embarrassed for them, so we were like, "We're gonna stay far back away from this nonsense." And then it was really literally minutes after that argument that he comes and tries to stir another pot and we're like, "Come on. This is what you're doing? This is child-like behavior. You're trying to stir more of a pot here." So that's why we didn't tell them off-hand at that moment. We were like, "You know what? Let their brains go crazy. Let them think, 'Oh. Are they local cops? Are they federal agents? I don't know.'" We were like, "Let them go crazy trying to figure it out." So that's why we kept it that way. It was because of their approach. It just wasn't a nice approach.

HitFix: Were there skills from your professional skill-set that you hoped maybe would be more of an asset on the Race and that maybe didn't come into play as much as you hoped?

Jamie: Maybe. I think overall who we are and why we do what we do, it takes kinda a certain individual who's willing to kinda be willing to potentially be shot at and carry a gun and it's not normal and I get that, but I think overall, it really did do us justice. You didn't ever hear us fighting and bickering and berating each other. When you give us a mission, we're gonna get it done. It might take us a little bit longer. or we might even be quick, but whatever the case, we're gonna get it done and we're gonna figure it out and we're gonna see it to the end and that, overall, I think is very much what we do. We do function a lot on little sleep and on maybe not very much food sometimes and that you might not see so much on camera, it might not be so apparent, but as soon as people started getting tired and hungry, it was weird. You'd see people start to fight and you'd see weird things happen because they're not used to it. On TV, you don't really know that we haven't slept and we haven't eaten, so you wouldn't maybe attribute that to being sleep-deprived, but certain things like that. I think our skill-set really did carry us through. When I jumped over and rappelled down that parking garage, should I have gotten it on the first try? Absolutely, but I couldn't reach the rope. So in certain regards like that? Yeah. I kick myself in the ass every time I think about out, but I think overall it did us justice and it really helped us through the game.

Nary: Like Jamie, doing what we do for a living brings a lot of skill-sets, mental and physical. We're in pretty good physical shape, so that helped us. Mentally, there are times where we don't sleep for days, so that helped us out, even though we don't sleep for days for almost a month at a time, we get to rest it off, it catches up to you. Stuff like that. And just being mentally strong. In certain things we have to do, we have to be mentally strong, because we don't know what's on the other side of something. So for us, it's like you have to try to stay as calm as possible, because the more angry you get and the more you're gonna fight, the worse the situation is gonna be. That's why Jamie and I work well and work the way we did and just supported each other, because yelling at each other wasn't going to get us anywhere and that's the same with our profession as well.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: slayton on April 17, 2012, 07:14:56 PM: http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/s66/the-amazing-race/interviews/a376837/amazing-races-nary-jamie-qa-we-got-so-close.html

'Amazing Race's Nary, Jamie Q&A: 'We got so close'
Published Tuesday, Apr 17 2012, 7:37pm EDT | By Catriona Wightman

Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz had a lot of ground to make up in the latest leg of The Amazing Race after being saved by a non-elimination leg the previous week. Unfortunately, despite a valiant effort, they couldn't quite do it and became the latest team to get sent home.

Digital Spy recently spoke with the duo, so read on to find out how they feel about their elimination, why they pretended to be teachers, and which team Jamie would have used the U-Turn on...

You were obviously at such a disadvantage going into this leg. What was your attitude going in? Did you think you'd already been eliminated or did you have an open mind?
Nary: "Of course when we first started the leg we were hoping we were going to go to an airport and have some type of equalizer - instead we were racing, we're still in Tanzania, and we're like, 'Oh no, this is not looking good', because we already started two hours after the last team took off, so we knew there was going to be a lot of catching up to do. We just had to keep our hopes up. We were just going to race - we were just hoping something happened to another team. We knew there were the U-Turns coming up and we were hoping the other half of the U-Turn was difficult and we would be able to catch up. And we did end up catching up which was nice, but then we had our Speed Bump. So right when we got to our Speed Bump our hope kind of went down a little. We knew our chances were slimmer but we still had hope and it didn't matter, so we were still going to fight all the way through the end."

Was it frustrating having to do the Speed Bump when you knew you were close to Vanessa and Ralph by that point?
Jamie: "Yeah, absolutely, because we knew if we hadn't had to do that Speed Bump we would have been completely neck and neck. But it wasn't terrible. It was definitely doable. I think we did it in maybe 15, 20 minutes or so - it was just a bit windy. But still, we're not very tall people and some of those things had to be hung very high, so we're stacking a chair on top of a table! It was a little frustrating, but we did it I think as fast as you could do it. We were trying to make up hours of time and that's hard to do unless you have a meeting point like an airport or a train station where everybody catches up, and we never got that opportunity."

You did get very close, like you said - were you proud about how close you came?
Jamie: "Oh yeah. I mean, we got so close. I think we were within 20 minutes of Vanessa and Ralph hitting the mat. I think we were really close, so that's a nice feeling. But at the end of the day, it just doesn't cut the mustard. You just have to take it and we had a great run, so I think it was kind of bittersweet knowing that we finished last."

You had a good attitude throughout the Race - you didn't really argue or complain. How did you keep that up?
Nary: "Our friendship has never entailed any of that - if we're annoyed with each other we just stay quiet and then deal with it. But never the arguing, the screaming, because you don't get anywhere doing that. We didn't even have to tell ourselves, 'No arguing, no screaming', we just knew, 'Hey, we know we're going to be tired, we know we're going to be cranky, we've just got to do it'. And rooting for one another and cheering the other on, that really helped. When I was struggling with the gnome, she's like, 'Come on, you got it', knowing we were the last team. I know Jamie was like, 'Oh my God, I wanted to cry!' But it just was great to know Jamie was like, 'Don't worry about it, you got it, you're still going to get it' and lo and behold, like three gnomes later. The support really, really helps and screaming at each other's really not going to get you anywhere - then I'm going to be like, 'Screw you, I don't want to do this, I don't want to put this tent up together!' So that's just how we work - we're just more professional. That's how we deal with it."

So do you think the Race brought you closer together?
Jamie: "Yeah, absolutely. We're super tight - we've both said before we consider each other like a sister and that's how we treat each other. But you can grow together and still learn about each other. It just reinforced the fact that we're there for each other 110% and never going to leave you behind or leave you hanging. That's why I feel like you don't see us fight, because we're so similar in the fact that you give us a mission, you give us a task, and we're going to get it done. I don't care if we're bleeding, sweating, hungry, tired - we're going to get it done and I'm going to make sure she does her best and she's going to push me to do my best. Those qualities just reinforced what we already knew about each other. It was fun to see how far we could be pushed because we were doing things we've never done before, so it was fun to watch each other grow through the experience as well."

Did you have a chance to enjoy this leg? You had so much time to make up but there was that amazing safari at the beginning of the leg.
Nary: "Yeah. I mean, our first task was to go on a safari in the Ngorongoro Crater - it's an unbelievable sight. You forget that you're racing and that we definitely got to enjoy. Not only did we get to enjoy elephants when we were in last place and we took advantage of that, but then we go on this safari, this amazing, beautiful safari, and it's like we forget we were racing. It was an amazing feeling and then the moment we were out of there we were just straight racing and it's like, 'Oh my God, we're so far behind'. That's the only time we really got to enjoy it because our focus was just completely on the safari and not on the Race. It was just a great feeling."

I've got to ask about your decision to pretend you were teachers - what was your reasoning for that?
Jamie: "It was something we had come up with before the Race started. We figured, 'Hey, we don't know who these contestants are - we've seen them, we're unable to talk to each other'. A lot of stigma, a lot of stereotypes come with people who worked in law enforcement and some of those are good and some of those are bad, so it was just our strategy for saying, 'Hey, we just want to start off on an even playing field with everybody else where they just see us as who we are based off of our actions and what we say'. That was pretty much our main reason for doing it. We didn't know that the U-Turn was going to be so late in the game, where people kind of already know this far down the line who's who. Had a U-Turn come earlier on, you don't know. OK, there's other people in law enforcement but they might see that as a threat because they might say, 'I don't want to get beaten by another agency because I'll never live that down'. So it could work either way - you've just got to take a risk. If nothing else it was funny and it was funny to us and we had a good time with it. Those that matter to us, i.e. Mark and Bopper and our friendship with Brendon and Rachel, they didn't care at all. They just wanted to know, 'Hey, was everything else you told us truthful?' And once we told them 110% it was, it was like we hadn't skipped a beat. They didn't care at all. So that was our strategy."

Did you ever consider revealing the truth - maybe when Art and JJ called you out?
Nary: "Our strategy from the beginning was, 'We will reveal it at the very end, at the last leg when everything's done'. But once Art and JJ approached us, the way they approached us we weren't happy with it. So we were like, 'No, we're not going to tell you, so let them go crazy in their heads still trying to figure out what we do for a living'. But once it got out and Brendon and Rachel and Mark and Bopper were like, 'Hey, is this true?' then because they're our friends we felt like we owed it to them to tell the truth. Those were the only two teams up until the very end that knew what we did for a living."

Hypothetically, if you'd reached the U-Turn before the other teams, would you have used it? And if so, which team would you use it on?
Jamie: "Um, I think I would have used it on Art and JJ."
Nary: "Ha! See, and I wouldn't! I probably wouldn't have. Knowing that we were first, I wouldn't care."
Jamie: "I think I would have just to have them eat something foul just for a little bit! And I would have been fine with that. I don't think I would have done it for anybody else though. Especially if we were way ahead, there's no reason to but just for s**ts and giggles I think I would have done it for Art and JJ."

So were Bopper and Mark and Rachel and Brendon the teams you were rooting for when you left?
Nary: "Absolutely. Once we were interviewed and they were like, 'Who are you rooting for?', of course Mark and Bopper were our first choice, and Brendon and Rachel were our second. We were like, 'If Mark and Bopper don't win, we want Brendon and Rachel'. Only because we have a friendship with those teams. I mean, Art and JJ we didn't want to at all, and Dave and Rachel, I mean they're a strong team and we knew they were a strong team - we just didn't have much of a relationship with them, so that's why we didn't choose them or anybody else or Ralph and Vanessa. We didn't have much of a relationship with the others, so that's why we picked those two."

If you could do the Race again, would you do anything differently?
Jamie: "You know, there isn't much I would change. I mean, I would bring ear plugs, and I would have brought a little air pillow! And that I regret. Besides that, I think we had a mission in mind - we wanted to win $1m, we wanted to make sure we took the time to enjoy and appreciate where we were and every country and our surroundings and the people, and then third have fun - like, have the time of your life. I feel like except for the million dollars, we accomplished that 110%. I'm thoroughly satisfied with how we played the game - we stuck true to who we were, we stuck true to who we are as agents and what we stand for and the type of agency we work for and we learned a lot about each other. And in the end, we left with an even stronger relationship. That's worth more than $1m to me, realistically."

You did seem like one of the teams who had the most fun and appreciated it the most - what was your favorite moment, if you could choose one?
Nary: "I have to say stopping and watching those elephants."
Jamie: "Yeah!"
Nary: "Only because it's one thing that sticks out because it's more recent. It really is - knowing we were last and then seeing that and just taking it in. A lot of times when you're in these countries you're racing and racing and you want to be able to take things in. Sometimes you just can't. In Argentina, they're dancing while we're making piñatas and we want to just stop and watch them dance because it's just so beautiful, but we're like, 'We're racing here and we're moving and we're moving'. To be able to stop and just enjoy it along with going into the Ngorongoro crater, it's amazing stuff like that where you're able to stop and take a breath and take it all in. Tanzania did it for us - we were happy we were able to see Tanzania. It was a beautiful, beautiful place and the wildlife was unbelievable."

I think that was a good moment for viewers as well.
Jamie: "Yeah! I mean, because I think you could hear the surprise in our voice and whatnot, that it was like it just took our breath away. We were like, 'Wow, we need to jump out of the truck for a minute and take this in'. It really was just a special moment."

If you had the chance, would you go on the Race again?
Jamie: "At first I said, 'I don't know'. I was so tired and so hungry! But that drive inside me would say 110%. Whether my work would allow it is a whole other story but in my heart I would love to run again with her!"
Nary: "Absolutely and I agree - I mean, this is an experience of a lifetime and to be able to do it a second time, that's just amazing. Absolutely."
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: slayton on April 19, 2012, 08:10:37 PM: http://shows.ctv.ca/TheAmazingRace/article/Persistence-couldne28099t-save-Jamie-and-Nary-a-second-time-on-the-e28098Racee28099

Persistence couldn’t save Jamie and Nary a second time on the ‘Race’

by: Sheri Block
Date: 4/18/2012 3:19:00 PM

After starting the leg in Tanzania almost two hours after all the other teams, Jamie and Nary knew staying in “The Amazing Race” would be an uphill battle.

But the federal agents from Los Angeles, Calif., who were saved from elimination on the previous leg, say they never even considered giving up despite all odds being stacked against them.

“Jamie and I never, ever were the type to give up. Just how long we were at the tent challenge (on the previous leg) alone tells you. We knew every team was gone and we were there two hours after they all left until we completed that thing,” says Nary.

The team got a small glimmer of hope during the current leg as well, after catching up to competitors Vanessa and Ralph, who had to perform the U-turn and encountered bad luck with a cab.

But because Jamie and Nary had to complete a Speed Bump challenge (a task only they had to do because they were saved from non-elimination on the previous leg) it put them behind another 20 minutes. When they finally got to the Pit Stop host Phil Keoghan confirmed they were the last team to arrive and this time had been eliminated.

“I think it was bittersweet because we were really pleased with how we played the game,” says Jamie. “We’d been asked before, what would you do differently? And I don’t think we’d really change anything. I was happy with how we played, how we represented ourselves. We didn’t put on a show for TV, that’s exactly how we are with each other.”

They weren’t completely honest with the other teams, however, at least when it came to their careers. The federal agents thought they might be seen as more of a threat if they revealed what they really did for a living so passed themselves off as teachers instead.

“The whole point of us lying about our professions was the whole U-turn thing. People might have perceived us in different ways (as) a strong team or (maybe they) just don’t like law enforcement, so they might choose to U-turn us . . . but the point where the U-turn came into play it didn’t really matter,” says Nary.

But border patrol agents Art and JJ almost blew their cover in a previous leg when the guys said they suspected the girls also worked in law enforcement.

Jamie and Nary didn’t flinch and stuck to their story.

“I don’t think we really cared,” says Jamie. “It didn’t really matter at that point . . . they thought they kind of got us, like, ‘Oh we’re stirring the pot,’ but they kind of approached us in a foul manner, after all the commotion, everybody’s fighting and we were pretty embarrassed . . . had they approached us as friends, like, ‘Maybe we know a lot of the same people, we’re interested,’ then we probably would’ve told them but that didn’t happen so we told them to suck rocks basically.”

Nary says they did end up telling JJ after the whole “Race” was over what their real professions were.

So were there any hard feelings between the two teams?

“We don’t really care for them. How about that?” says Nary with a laugh. “We’re not friends with them. We don’t really care to speak to them.”

Nary and Jamie say their skills as federal agents did come in handy on the “Race” in terms of being able to focus on the task at hand.

“I think what you see is, probably a lot in part why we’re federal agents is because we are the way we are, the A-type personality, you give us a mission and we’ll die trying to get it done,” says Jamie.

“Sometimes when we do search warrants or enforcement ops, we’re hungry, we’re tired, we’re out on the street for several days at a time so we’re used to operating under sleep deprivation and what not and it’s hard for a viewer to determine that because you just see people bickering.”

Even so, being on the “Race” has been an incredible experience for both Jamie and Nary, who say it only strengthened their already close friendship.

“Running a race around the world just brings you so much closer and being able to say you experienced that with (such a good friend) is just an amazing feeling,” says Nary.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: maxen on April 19, 2012, 08:19:07 PM: Really good job slayton. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: AR FAN on April 19, 2012, 08:58:24 PM: Never liked them, Good Riddance. :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: georgiapeach on April 28, 2012, 11:10:28 AM: One of my favorites. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Jobby on April 28, 2012, 11:23:36 AM: Quote from: georgiapeach on April 28, 2012, 11:10:28 AM
One of my favorites. :tup:

One of the BETTER racers with AWESOME attitude in recent seasons... sounds better.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: Jobby on June 03, 2012, 01:22:25 AM: Highly unlikely we will see them in Allstars/UB... But if Amanda and Kris were given a second chance, I think they should too!

They were more interesting than other all-female teams and... to be truth, they were really ripped off by a gender discrimination random weird task. Building a tent in Africa??

Please give them another chance to be on the show CBS! :hrt:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: maxen on June 13, 2012, 09:54:23 AM: Quote from: Joab on June 03, 2012, 01:22:25 AM
Highly unlikely we will see them in Allstars/UB... But if Amanda and Kris were given a second chance, I think they should too!

They were more interesting than other all-female teams and... to be truth, they were really ripped off by a gender discrimination random weird task. Building a tent in Africa??

Please give them another chance to be on the show CBS! :hrt:

X2... i understand some people don't want them back but if there is a WTF choice i want these two for a second chance.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
Post by: AR FAN on June 14, 2012, 11:40:33 AM: Quote from: -mxn- on June 13, 2012, 09:54:23 AM
Quote from: Joab on June 03, 2012, 01:22:25 AM
Highly unlikely we will see them in Allstars/UB... But if Amanda and Kris were given a second chance, I think they should too!

They were more interesting than other all-female teams and... to be truth, they were really ripped off by a gender discrimination random weird task. Building a tent in Africa??

Please give them another chance to be on the show CBS! :hrt:

X2... i understand some people don't want them back but if there is a WTF choice i want these two for a second chance.
No thanks, they were a waste of space the first time. Hopefully Clarie would be available, with Brook, next time.