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Archive => RFF Archived Boards => The Amazing Race 19 Spoilers and Speculation => Topic started by: georgiapeach on October 29, 2011, 02:57:51 PM
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Happy TAR DAY!!!
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Have FUN eveyone and :tu for joining us!
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CBS has the NFL doubleheader this week, and it is looking as though much of the country will have whatever delay that ends up entailing.
http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/2011/wk8.html (http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/2011/wk8.html)
If there is a delay, I will try to post a LIVE STREAM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,26276.msg674358.html#msg674358) that matches the delay, and we will post updates here based on the DELAYED START TIME.
That means that if you are watching in Canada, you will be ahead of the rest of us, so please do NOT post ahead of the others or post ANY outcome spoilers until the East Coast showing is done.
Thanks everyone!!
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Super Excited!
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My connection keeps going in and out so I may not be much help.
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Try the new link I just added...
And go pound on a neighbor's door...we need you!! :lol3:
Y'all remember, ONLY POST if you are on East Coast Time or East Coast thread tonight!!
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I am hereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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Thank God
I am getting about one frame every minute. So unless my speed catches up, I wont be able to help at all.
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YAY I get to watch because I have conjunctivitis! :lol:
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Hopefully Phil tells us that Liz and Marie were back into the game because the last leg sucked so badly. :lol:
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YAY I get to watch because I have conjunctivitis! :lol:
Hope you feel better Aussie! Maybe the Race will help!
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The race always helps!
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Hopefully Phil tells us that Liz and Marie were back into the game because the last leg sucked so badly. :lol:
Always the optimist.
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Hopefully Phil tells us that Liz and Marie were back into the game because the last leg sucked so badly. :lol:
Always the optimist.
You'll be in my shoes if the team eliminated were male twins who were Derek and Drew-ish. :neener:
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Hello. :waves: I made it before TAR started... thank goodness for the delay.
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Tar is almost on. And for the last 5 minutes I have got the feed.
Crosses fingers!!!
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Previously on The Walking Dead; Liz & marie were hours and hours and hours behind, like seriously hours and hours.
Dead Team Walking, and Walking, and Walking.
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There's a new way to watch 60 Minutes
Please, god no, one is bad enough.
Yeah Phil!!!!
And even Phil calls it local transportation.
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Time for Joab to cry again.
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7 teams remain who will be eliminated next....
New Screen caps for intros.
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Time for Joab to cry again.
It must be Sunday!
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New screencaps... OH WHY DID I CHANGE MY ANSWER.
And Liz and Marie are so happy with their new caps. :lol:
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The twins' intro shot is the best one ever
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Well you did get season 17 (was that the one cry free season)?
Siri you are such a whore. I love you!
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Oh man, a slightly new intro. I wasn't paying attention until halfway through.
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WTF was with Kaylani and Lisa's intro cap? :umn:
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iPhone Siri... have no life, talk to your phone.
I got my iPhone Siri on Saturday and let me tell you it feels stupid to talk to your phone in public.
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The twins' intro shot is the best one ever
Captures them very well. :)
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New caps!!
Liz and Marie - at the Speedbump
Amani and Marcus - first at pitstop
Bill and Cathi - on the elephant
Ron and Bill - Indonesian detour (drumming and dancing one)
Kaylani and Lisa - "IM NOT GOING ANYWHERE BECAUSE YOU DONT HAVE A PASSPORT" :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Dropping their passport and screaming at each other in the airport.
I Kid
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Amani & Marcus
7:22am
Fly to Malawi
and go get lung cancer.
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Bill & Cathi depart at 7:23 AM.
Ernie & Cindy depart at 7:24 AM... SO CLOSE.
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Justin & Jennifer depart at 7:29 AM.
Andy & Tommy depart at 8:06 AM. They failed at ripping the clue.
Laurence & Zac depart at 8:07 AM. Laurence is a little bit warm.
Jeremy & Sandy depart at 9:22 AM.
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Bill & Cathi
7:23am
Ernie & Cindy
7:24am
Justin & Jennifer
7:29am
Andy & Tommy
8:06
Laurence & Zac
8:07 365 dollars for this leg
Jeremy & Sandy
9:22am
Yes they did suck.
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One flight, everyone will be on it.
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Hey Singapour, did you see that Joab!
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Amani and Marcus - 7.22am
Fly to warm hearted Malawi, 5000 miles.
Make their way to Tobacco Warehouse at Gate 7.
Amani and Marcus has screentime again, TAR milking the NFL team to the maximum.
Bill and Cathi are excited to start the morning.
7.24am Ernie and Cindy... mistakes every leg except the first!
7.29am Justin and Jennifer talk about Jenn being a special need kid teacher.
Andy and Tommy 8.06am.
Zac and Laurence 8.07am
Last team Jeremy and Sany 9.22am (IT'S 2 HOURS)
Oh my god, I just realized Zac and Laurence gets no screentime again...
Only one flight... everyone's going to be together!!
I SEE SINGAPORE ON THE MAP AGAIN!!
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Jeremy & Sandy first out.
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Cindy: Over 60% of the country's income comes from tobacco leaves.
Interesting...
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YES. CATHI FOR THE TITLE. :yess:
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Amani & MArcus #6 out of airport
Bill & Cathi last
Cathi for the title.
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Ernie and Cindy, Cindy being intellectual and talks about why they're going to the Tobacco Warehouse.
Amani and Marcus sucking in 6th place.
Bill and Cathi in 7th... a place which they haven't been in.
Cathi - We like your country already, it's very spacious.
Oh dear, interesting Cluebox place.
ROADBLOCK - Who's willing to put up Bale.
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Jeremy & Sandy are first to the roadblock.
Roadblock: Wearing a workman's uniform, teams must... transport tobacco with dollies. They have to transfer 10, 200 lbs bags.
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Jeremy & Sandy
Roadblock - Jeremy Move tobacco once they have moved 10 200 pounds bales they get their next clue.
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Justin & Jennifer - Justin
Ernie & Cindy - Ernie
It's crazy busy.
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The tobacco men are completely like... crazy and happy.
Jeremy and Sandy still first.
Justin and Jennifer second.
Ernie/Justin starting the RB.
Jeremy having funwith the Roadblock, now that's a change!
Ernie and Justin both have a fallen bale!
Jeremy has 1 bale.
Ernie has 1 bale.
Justin has one bale.
Laurence and Zac 4th place.
Andy and Tommy 5th.
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Laurence is doing the roadblock. There's this one turn that everyone seems to be failing at.
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Laurence & Zac - Laurence
ANdy & Tommy - TOmmy
Amani & MArcus Bill & Cathi stuck in traffic
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Andy: YEAH, BUMPER CARS.
Tommy is doing the roadblock.
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Amani and Marcus stuck in the traffic.
Tommy and Laurence both have one bale.
Amani and Marcus still stuck on cab.
Bill and Cathi completely stuck in the engagement jam too!
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Bill & CAthi are right behind Amani & MArcus in traffic.
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Hey Singapour, did you see that Joab!
:groan:
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Noooo...Red and Kitty and Amani and Marcus stuck in traffic... :groan:
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In other news, I really like that everyone seems to (so far) be respectful to the locals and are even enjoying what I'd probably find smelly and insufferable (tobacco warehouse).
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It seems the first teams to get a ticket were sent to the back. At least I think that would explain why Jeremy & Sandy are in the lead and Marcus & Amani and Bill & Cathi are last.
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Everyone seems to love the atmosphere. :hrt:
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Bill & Cathi at Roadblock - Bill
Amani & Marcus are just getting there - Marcus
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Bill does the roadblock for Cathi to make up time.
Marcus does the roadblock for Amani. The jumpsuit for Marcus... doesn't really fit. :lol3:
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Brook & Claire would love this task... Brook maybe. :lol:
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Jeremy finishes the roadblock first. Lots of high fives!
Make your way to Memorial Tower.
Ernie is done.
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And we're back!!
Cindy: Ernieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
Tommy with 4 bales. That's like quick edit?
Laurence has like... a screentime!
The African warehouse people are happy.
Bill and Cathi in 6th. THAT'S ALOT OF CLUES???
Bill has 1 bale.
Amani and Marcus having fun!
Justin going to have his 7th one...
Jennifer: "That smell was like at home"... smells like dad huh?
Marcus has 3 bales.
Jeremy's last one.
Ernie has 9.
Justin has 9.
JEREMY DONE WITH 10. FIRST ROADBLOCKKKKKKKKK!
ROUTE INFO: MEMORIAL TOWER (SEARCH NEXT CLUE)
Ernie is second to be done with Roadblock!
It's hard to breath in there... : Cindy
Justin and Jennifer (3rd Place)
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Jeremy finishes 1st
make your way to memorial tower.
Ernie
Justin
Tommy
Jeremy & Sandy Detour Clue - All Sewn up or all Not Grown up.
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Tommy done with 10 bales!
Andy and Tommy in 4th place.
Special cluebox yet again!
Jeremy and Sandy: Detour... (All Sewn Up) or (Not Grown Up)
Oh dear... Not Grown Up is fun! <3333333333333333333333333333333333333333
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Justin & Jennifer finish in 3rd.
Andy & Tommy finish in 4th.
The atmosphere is amazing.
Jeremy & Sandy get their clue at Memorial Tower. Detour! (No U-turn?) All sewn or not grown up.
All Sewn Up: They have to finish stitching a suit and pant legs.
Not Grown Up: They have to create two carton trucks.
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Finish a suit or build two trucks
Jeremy & Sandy Trucks
Laurence done
Ernie & CIndy Sew
Justin & Jennifer Trucks
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Andy & Tommy picking not grown up... Because they're not grown up yet. :lol3:
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Andy & Tommy Trucks
Laurence & Zac
Trucks
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Man Laurence looks beat up.
Both the detour tasks look super fun.
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Bill finishes the roadblock before Marcus. Not too shabby.
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Bill completes Roadblock
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Ernie and Cindy: Second
Justin and Jennifer: Third
Jennifer getting a good edit and mention that she's a teacher again. Lol
Andy and Tommy 4th
Laurence and Zac 5th
Many teams choosing All Grown Up.
Bill and Cathi done with 10 bales!
Amani and Marcus might be first to last... now?
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MArcus struggles and of course we go to commercial break, which means he finishes right when we come back.
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I think Bill and Cathi chooses to sew.. :lol: :neener:
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I wouldn't do sewing. I'm not that good at it. Besides, making toy trucks seems like a lot of fun!
Belle Book
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Man, did anyone else see that fancy, new special effect they used to highlight the taxi? That oval is obviously a show of the HD cameras.
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And we are back. He just finishes the 9th and 10th
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Amani: Rock it baby, rock it!
I don't think you want Marcus to rock the dolly around and make the bale fall!
Marcus finishes and all the workers dance behind him.
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Jeremy & Sandy are making the toy. All the children... :hearts:
Jeremy has a 6 year old son...? What?
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School
Jeremy & Sandy arrive, yeah that would be awesome.
Ernie & Cindy are lost
Bill & Cathi sew which we knew
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Amani and Marcus finally done with Roadblock.
African man completely dancing and supporting Marcus. Like what the hell?
That was a crazy scene.
Well done African tobacco factory guys!
Jeremy and Sandy in first place at making truck detour.
Bill and Cathi... (All Sewn Up) LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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Justin is a physician. He talks about breaking things and building things up... What a scary doctor.
Sandy wants to play soccer with the children. :hrt:
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Justin & Jennifer get to school.
Amani & Marcus take sew
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Laurence & Zac have a scary taxi driver. He drove in the middle of the road...
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Jeremy & Sandy are making the toy. All the children... :hearts:
Jeremy has a 6 year old son...? What?
So?
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Laurence & Zac are going to die driving.
School
Andy & Tommy
Laurence & Zac
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Teams are making fun of Sandy for not being able to sew, even though she's a nurse practitioner.
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Jeremy & Sandy are making the toy. All the children... :hearts:
Jeremy has a 6 year old son...? What?
So?
I just didn't know he had a son.
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Cathi & Bill completely catch up to Ernie & Cindy
Which we knew
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Cathi tearing it up.
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Sewed an entier leg with no thread.
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Ernie & Cindy mention teh express pass.
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Amani & MArcus arrive.
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Cathi KICKING ASS on the machine :yess:
Sandy playing soccer :lol:
Jennifer developing a curriculum :hrt:
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Teams are making fun of Sandy for not being able to sew, even though she's a nurse practitioner.
Justin was just joking, I'm not so sure about Laurence.
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Jeremy & Sandy are done. Find the R-K Furniture Shop. Sandy plays soccer. :hrt:
Justin & Jennifer are out in 2nd.
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Jeremy &Sandy first done with Detour
Sandy plays a little with the kids
Justin & Jennifer done
Andy & Tommy done
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Ernie: Cindy usually holds the pants in our relationship.
Ernie & Cindy are done the detour. They're in 4th.
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Ernie & Cindy done
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First two teams get to bed frames.
Take two beds to Phil at Pit Stop.
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ANd yes the beds are for them.
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NO JUSTIN & JENNIFER. NO. JEREMY & SANDY HAVE TO GET FIRST.
Take 2 beds to the pit stop. Beds will be used for their overnight stay.
They can call a driver to help them transport the beds.
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ANdy & Tommy Arrive
Laurence & Zac complete detour in 5th
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Bill & Cathi complete in 6th
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Bill & Cathi finish the roadblock in 6th.
NOOOOOOOOOO. JUSTIN & JENNIFER ARE GETTING ON A TRUCK. GAH. ANDY & TOMMY STEAL JEREMY & SANDY'S TRUCK. NOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Oh wait. The person apparently told Andy & Tommy to take the truck. :(
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Laurence & Zac arrive
Jeremy & Sandy having trouble with getting a truck to help.
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Ernie & Cindy arrive.
Bill & Cathi arrive
Armani & MArcus just finish
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Laurence & Zac try to use a cab.
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Cathi: You better sit down before you fall down.
Amani & Marcus are in last place right now.
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Amani & MArcus are last
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All vehicles can't go past a certain point. They have to carry the beds to the pit stop.
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Justin & Jennifer arrive and have to carry
ANdy & Tommy arrive to carry
Jeremy & Sandy arrive to carry
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Amani and Marcus sewing...
Andy and Tommy and Laurence and Zac still on the road.
Ernie and Cindy completely lost.
Bill and Cathi reached together with Ernie and Cindy.
Jennifer talks about bringing it to her own classroom. <3
Bill and Cathi and Ernie and Cindy getting lost.
They're talking about the Express Pass now.
Cathi is killing the Detour.
Amani and Marcus at the Detour.
All the teams are doing the DETOUR now.
Jeremy and Sandy first Detour, DONE! Great job!
Oh dear, Sandy taking time off to have soccer with the boys. <3 already
Justin and Jennifer done.
Andy and Tommy 3rd done.
Andy and Tommy have a kick with the boys too.
Ernie and Cindy: 4th place.
Justin and Jennifer are now first!
Take two beds to Phil next pitstop.
Peach you're right! KUMBALI VILLAGE: PITSTOP!
Jeremy and Sandy: 2nd place.
Andy and Tommy 3rd place!
Zac and Laurence 5th!
Bill and Cathi are 6th!
Amani and Marcus still in last...
Justin and Jennifer first off to the pitstop!
Andy and Tommy took Jeremy and Sandy's truck. WTF?
Bill and Cathi caught up with Zac and Laurence.
Amani and Marcus finally done.
Bill enjoying the ride on the truck!
Amani and Marcus 7th place... caught up with Zac and Laurence.
NOW I SEE A FOOTRACE. Seriously!!
Andy and Tommy (sneaky) catching up with Justin and Jennifer in first.
Jeremy and Sandy fighting...
Amani and Marcus cab died. -.-
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Amani & MArcus cab breaks down (why are they in a cab, what did I miss).
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I'm liking this leg... :hrt:
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This has to be one of the best legs ever.
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I'm liking this leg... :hrt:
Last episode was so much better!!!!
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Go Bill/Cathi! But I want Ernie/Cindy to win the leg so I can get points :lol:
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I'm liking this leg... :hrt:
Last episode was so much better!!!!
<--Disagrees :lol:
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Back on the truck, why were they using the cab.
Justin & Jennifer you are team #1
Andy & Tommy right behind as team #2
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DARN IT JUSTIN AND JENNIFER. DARN IT. DARN IT. DARN IT. DARN IT. DARN IT.
Justin & Jennifer didn't pay their truck driver. OUCH. WOW.
Andy & Tommy are now 1st.
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Andy and Tommy are first. :groan: Get out. Get. Out. I. Said. Get. Out.
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Damn Justin & Jennifer are not team #1, didn't pay fair. ANdy & Tommy team #1, win a trip to virgin isalnds (that can't be fun), where is teh Tramp Islands.
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And we're nearly back!
Justin and Jennifer!! <3
Omg, I'm loving this leg, AMAZING PITSTOP! IT'S SO CRAZY!
Justin and Jennifer did not pay their cab driver? WTF?
Andy and Tommy are now first again!?!?!
WTF. FIRST AGAIN BECAUSE OF A TEAM'S MISTAKE. I really dislike that!
THEY TOOK JEREMY AND SANDY'S CAB. MAJOR DISLIKE.
Seriously!
Bill and Cathi didn't pay their cab. Oh my god.
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Cindy and Jail
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ANotehr team didn't pay.
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Cindy gets stuck under her bed. She's in jail. :lol3:
Bill & Cathi pass Jeremy & Sandy. Wow. Power to them!
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Did J/J just pay Bill and Cathis truckie?
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Bill & Cathi pass Jeremy & Sandy
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Ernie & Cindy got passed by Laurence & Zac.
GROSS. JUSTIN & JENNIFER GOT 2ND.
Bill & Cathi are 3rd... but they didn't pay their driver!
Jeremy & Sandy are 3rd.
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Justin & Jennifer jump right in front of Bill & Cathi
Jeremy & Sandy
are team #3
Bill & Cathi didn't pay cab.
Job Cries
Laurence & Zac #4
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Laurence & Zac are in 4th.
Ernie & Cindy are 5th.
And there goes so many of my points for mswood's game...
Race between Bill & Cathi and Amani & Marcus... That wasn't much of a race.
Bill & Cathi are 6th.
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NON ELIMINATION! :yess:
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Ernie & Cindy #5
Bill & Cathi pass Amani & Marcus #6 Yeah!!)
Amani & Marcus team #7
Non Elimination leg
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Amani & Marcus arrive in last. Non-elimination... sigh.
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Bill and Cathi passed Jeremy and Sandy? WTF.
Bill and Cathi has to go pay their cab?
Amani and Marcus paid their cab. Omg WTF.
Bill and Cathi might be last place now.... Seriously. TIGHT RACE.
Ernie and Cindy are team number five.
Amani and Marcus in 6th.
Two of my favourite teams in last :(
Go anyone team. Non-elimination please!
Bill and Cathi are team number six.
Amani and Marcus are the last team to arrive.
Amani and Marcus getting a non-elimination leg. <3
The non-elimination legs fell on all my favourite teams this season!! <3
Go Amani and Marcus! Stay strong!! <3333
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ANd my God does every team in this race have kids?
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ANd my God does every team in this race have kids?
Jennifer is a teacher.. maybe no kids! :lol:
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Thank GOD for the NEL :hearts:
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God I can't wait to actually watch this episode.
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I'm seriously disliking the fact Andy and Tommy come in first, they didn't deserve it. They stole Jeremy and Sandy's truck!
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ASOGDKJASODIGJADSGOIDSAGNOIDSAGNSIADOGNSADOIGJSADGIOASDJG SALGIJASDOIGNSADOGIHADOIGUHSADOIBHADSOIBASDOIBNADS @ Andy and Tommy coming in 1st after STEALING Jeremy and Sandy's truck
I need them GONE
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Time for a U-Turn me thinks!
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OK, this is four wins for Andy & Tommy and only one of them was completely due to their own racing. That's so unheard of. Seriously.
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Next week...
Teams are taxi drivers, African style.
Jeremy & Sandy battle it out on Lake Malawi.
Marcus... hauls something?
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Amani & Marcus are totally getting a winner's edit. Jeremy & Sandy are finally getting an edit, as small as it may be. Also, Andy & Tommy have only won one leg on their own, correct?
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OK, this is four wins for Andy & Tommy and only one of them was completely due to their own racing. That's so unheard of. Seriously.
Precisely. And that's not like they deserve their win this leg!!!!! :res: :res: :res: :res:
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I'm seriously disliking the fact Andy and Tommy come in first, they didn't deserve it. They stole Jeremy and Sandy's truck!
Yep we need a U-Turn on Andy and Tommy. They NEED to go!
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Next Week, as bike taxi's. Canoe anger.
Marcus and Amani doing something I didn't see.
Ok, time to watch, and then Walking Dead. Awesome night of TV.
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Then again, I only really dislike Tommy (I think... I never cared enough for them to figure out which one's which). Andy doesn't seem too bad but I haven't watched all the episodes yet.
Come on TAR, let's invent a 1/2 U-Turn :lol3: :lol3:
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Omg... I'm glad i'm not alone in disliking Andy and Tommy! #lovedandnotalone :lol3:
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I don't know why... but Zac and Laurence seemed to have even lesser edit than Ethan and Jenna. :lol:
It's like Survivor where Christine has more edit than Whitney and Rick. :lol:
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Well beside the bit last week about other religions there hasn't been a single negative moment for me with Andy & Tommy. Got along with each other, get along with other teams, don't stress out under pressure, and get along with locals.
That's a keeper for me.
And since so many of their wins have been due to others errors it isn't like they are an Eric & Jeremy and just kicking other teams asses left and right.
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IMO, not making errors is a very valuable racing skill
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^Absolutely.
It's not like the team that made a dumb mistake deserved to win just because they arrived first. It's not a stolen win when a team does something wrong. If you can't avoid errors you won't survive and I can't think of team that is more error free than Andy and Tommy.
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They didn't steal the win from Justin and Jennifer. The point here is, rushing for a truck which is probably not meant for them. They need to keep in line. I don't know, I just think it is not right for them to rush for a truck they probably know belonged to others. (They gave the guilty face and talked about how when the people pointed them to the truck, they just ran and took it)
They didn't even care if Jeremy and Sandy got there before them or not!
On a side note, the last 3 teams were the first 3 teams for last leg.
And Bill and Cathi, passing so many teams = <3
Bill and Cathi, they're impressing me with their racing skills at their age. Like seriously, they may be old and everything.. but Cathi on the way to the pitstop is just amazing and I had no idea how they did that. LESS MISTAKES = BETTER LEG PLACINGS! GO BILL AND CATHI!
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They said the man at the store pointed them to the truck. They did not arrive on the trucks, how does someone know which is theirs? :duno:
They all seemed to get random different looking trucks, some teams were stopping trucks that were driving by.
Besides I was also referencing mswood who said they only earned one of their wins.
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They indeed only "earned" one of their wins, isn't that the case? The rest of it was based on other's mistakes. Not saying that there's anything wrong with it, but the only leg they won based on their "own efforts and not by the mistake of others" was the Phuket leg.. so mswood's technically right.
I think they just got lucky the man pointed them to the truck before Jeremy and Sandy got a chance to see their own truck. I'm not even a Jeremy and Sandy fan... I just felt that somehow Andy and Tommy knew the truck that they took shouldn't be theirs and they jumped upon the chance nevertheless. At least the edit felt that way.
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They indeed only "earned" one of their wins, isn't that the case? The rest of it was based on other's mistakes. Not saying that there's anything wrong with it, but the only leg they won based on their "own efforts and not by the mistake of others" was the Phuket leg.. so mswood's technically right.
I think they just got lucky the man pointed them to the truck before Jeremy and Sandy got a chance to see their own truck. I'm not even a Jeremy and Sandy fan... I just felt that somehow Andy and Tommy knew the truck that they took shouldn't be theirs and they jumped upon the chance nevertheless. At least the edit felt that way.
Well, it would have been way different if Jeremy and Sandy confronted them and claimed the taxi as theirs, but Andy and Tommy just found a truck and kept racing.
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I just felt that somehow Andy and Tommy knew the truck that they took shouldn't be theirs and they jumped upon the chance nevertheless. At least the edit felt that way
That is an assumption you are making that wasn't supported by anything that the editors included in the episode. No penalty was announced, and no instruction was referenced in the clue about how to get a truck to transport the bed frames. And Andy and Tommy did make up time carrying the bed frames from the road to the pit stop mat. Had Jennifer-Justin stopped and paid their truck first, they would not have been first, Andy and Tommy would have been since they did pay for the truck before they left the driver. So I don't think the win (or the truck) was "stolen."
As additional support for my view of this, go back and look at the leg in Indonesia involving getting water and using only two buckets. Laurence-Zac were penalized 15 minutes even though they arrived before Andy-Tommy in that leg because they used more than two buckets to draw the water. That, to me, is pretty strong evidence that Andy-Tommy did not err in this leg, as Phil would have mentioned it and announced some sort of penalty if they had.
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Prophet
I wasn't trying to say they didn't deserve to win any of there legs, only that they had due to others errors. I tired to point out that it's not that they have won 4 legs because they were racing circles around the other team (like Eric and Jerermy had managed by their sixth episode).
Just trying to point out that teams have been much closer then the wins suggest.
As for a local telling them a truck was there's, sorry but locals win over other racers. And they were told by the local that it was for them. While it might have been Jeremy and Sandy they have no way of knowing. After all it could very well be like calling cabs, you can have ten people calling cabs and the cabs don't necessarily come in the order you call them. This wasn't something where pick a number and proceed in that order.
Sure they got lucky in that, but luck and public transport are hardly something new to Tar.
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I understand Mswood. :tup:
But I don't understand all the Andy and Tommy hate. :(
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(Joab) I just felt that somehow Andy and Tommy knew the truck that they took shouldn't be theirs and they jumped upon the chance nevertheless. At least the edit felt that way
(theschnauzers) That is an assumption you are making that wasn't supported by anything that the editors included in the episode. No penalty was announced, and no instruction was referenced in the clue about how to get a truck to transport the bed frames.
Sandy is shown reading from the clue "You should ask the shop owner to call a driver" to transport the bed.
Andy (or Tommy) are shown, as they drive away, saying "That guy said to take the truck so we ran over. This could have been their truck, who knows."
So they did have an idea they were taking someone else's truck. Can't say they made a mistake by taking the chance when offered; we've seen this (and worse!) in other seasons. It was one of the shop people who apparently told them they could have it.
What I wondered about was why Laurence and Zac didn't get a penalty for what appeared to be just flagging down a truck passing by and using that as transport.
Not to mention that, yet again, they failed to fully read the clue - especially after first trying to get the beds into/onto the taxi.
(Sorry if I didn't do the quotes right, still a little new at this.)
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Amani & MArcus cab breaks down (why are they in a cab, what did I miss).
mswood,
The cab was to take them to follow their truck. Apparently they did not want to hang off the truck or in the bed of the truck so they probably kept their previous taxi and used it.
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Damn Justin & Jennifer are not team #1, didn't pay fair. ANdy & Tommy team #1, win a trip to virgin isalnds (that can't be fun), where is teh Tramp Islands.
mswood,
It's a private island in the British Virgin Islands named Scrub Island Resort, Spa & Marina. You can look at it on www.scrubisland.com.
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Andy (or Tommy) are shown, as they drive away, saying "That guy said to take the truck so we ran over. This could have been their truck, who knows."
So they did have an idea they were taking someone else's truck. Can't say they made a mistake by taking the chance when offered; we've seen this (and worse!) in other seasons. It was one of the shop people who apparently told them they could have it.
I don't think Andy or Tommy had any knowledge that they were taking someone else's truck, they were told by the person at the bed frame place to take that truck, and that's what they did. If there was a mistake, it was a production mistake, not a Racer mistake. And it's very rare for the show to make any announced adjustment for it. (The last one I can remember was a detour task involving pianos and music in Russia; I'd have to look up which Race and leg that was.)
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(The last one I can remember was a detour task involving pianos and music in Russia; I'd have to look up which Race and leg that was.)
TAR17 Leg 6. Nick & Vicki came in last that leg and didnt had to perform a SpeedBump during the next one.
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(The last one I can remember was a detour task involving pianos and music in Russia; I'd have to look up which Race and leg that was.)
TAR17 Leg 6. Nick & Vicki came in last that leg and didnt had to perform a SpeedBump during the next one.
That's because there were quite a few people who got the piano music right and weren't properly told that.
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Andy (or Tommy) are shown, as they drive away, saying "That guy said to take the truck so we ran over. This could have been their truck, who knows."
So they did have an idea they were taking someone else's truck. Can't say they made a mistake by taking the chance when offered; we've seen this (and worse!) in other seasons. It was one of the shop people who apparently told them they could have it.
I don't think Andy or Tommy had any knowledge that they were taking someone else's truck, they were told by the person at the bed frame place to take that truck, and that's what they did. If there was a mistake, it was a production mistake, not a Racer mistake. And it's very rare for the show to make any announced adjustment for it. (The last one I can remember was a detour task involving pianos and music in Russia; I'd have to look up which Race and leg that was.)
Have to respectfully disagree; I do think they had an idea it might be someone else's truck based on their comment, plus the fact they would've seen Jeremy and Sandi when they got to the shop and knew they were ahead of them.
However, agree that it wasn't their mistake, if they were told by the people at the shop to take it. In fact, to me it's always been part of the game to take whatever chance you can, so even if they had taken it without being told to, that's part of how things are played. It's always hard to tell from the editing, but it looked like things were moving fast; a truck came, they were told to take it, and didn't wait around to sort out what was doing with the other teams.
Rather than reminding me of the Russia/piano situation this reminds me more of the Cowboys last season - didn't they take the Globetrotters' waiting cab at one point?
I was originally responding to posters upthread who thought it was really bad for Andy and Tommy to take the truck. It might not come across as the most polite thing to do, but unless there's a penalty, it's allowed.
Still a little confused about Laurence and Zac's situation though.
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I don't think Andy & Tommy were intentionally stealing the truck from Jeremy & Sandy, but rather taking the truck assigned to them by the guy at the shop. If I was in a race for a million dollars and was told that was my truck, I'd take it. There isn't any time to play wait in line and pass up a truck because it's polite. Who could know when the next truck would arrive.
lovetherace, the clue said you should call a truck, not you must. Teams were free to transport their beds to the pitstop however they needed to. It was obvious that every team would have a truck driver transport them, just how they got it was open for the team to decide. At least thats my interpretation.
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Yeah, I can't see how any rational being would think that Andy & Tommy took another's truck.
They don't go for it, until the local tells them too. Even Jeremy & Sandy just say it might be there truck (they have no knowledge on if it is theirs). Andy & Tommy after that occurs and the truck is pulling away say it might have been the other teams.
Might doesn't mean it is. If you are told by the local it's your's the it's yours. Period. Thats the way the race has always occurred.
There isn't a que. There isn't a line, nor do they draw a number. They are entirely dependent on what the locals tell them.
I mean seriously how many episodes have occurred where some one calls for a cab, and it isn't the first one to arrive? Ever been a group where that happens, I have.
First you would have to know where those trucks were dispatched from (which we don't). Then we would have to know if this truck was even one of the ones which were dispatched (which we don't know).
Season Nine Fran and Barry call and reserve a cab, Joseph calls a cab later. Guess what Fran and Barry accuse Mojo of stealing their cab. But what happened is their cab never arrived (and it cost them the race). And its not the first time, cabs from a later caller arrived first.
It is not nor has it ever been up to the racers to get clarification from another source that the local is in fact correct or in error.
Simply thinking Andy & Tommy took it, is irrational. Pure and simple. Or that it was done with advance knowledge. No facts that are present support that belief.
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What I wonder is how Jeremy and Sandy had laid some mysterious claim to that particular truck. Sandy seemed to think that since they arrived second they had a right to that one. But it wasn't some kind of pull of numbers task. It was a very chaotic environment where people were stopping trucks in the road and there were trucks being called. It's just the way things work in Africa. It seems like Andy and Tommy were trying to go tell the guy to call them a truck and he pointed out that there was one over there so they took it. The later teams to arrive seemed to abandon the idea of calling one.
Besides all that, it is a race and I would take anything I could to get ahead being in their shoes. You never know if you are in a race with whoever you can see for last place. No one has time to stop and have an argument about the semantics of truck calling :lol:
IMO, those trying to accuse Andy and Tommy of such a thing are those who hate\dislike them for no particular reason. I would like someone to give me a legitimate reason to hate\dislike them.