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Title: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: markushsieh on August 30, 2011, 11:10:05 AM

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2019/Cast%20Reveal%20Dalton%20Ross/ErnieandCindy.jpg)
Photo credit to Sonja Flemming/CBS


ERNIE HALVORSEN
Age: 29
Hometown: Chicago
Current occupation: Project manager

CINDY CHIANG
Age: 30
Hometown: Chicago
Current occupation: Brand manager

Connection to teammate: Engaged

Official reveal credit to Dalton Ross: http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20524230,00.html


(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6071/6097007570_c0447896d6_m.jpg)
Photo credit to Sonja Flemming/CBS
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on August 31, 2011, 10:08:07 AM
http://www.cbs.com/shows/amazing_race/video/2111516624/the-amazing-race-meet-ernie-cindy

http://www.youtube.com/v/33FdY9Zxk5w
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: ZBC Company on August 31, 2011, 11:47:43 AM
nother inertnatoial couple but they great team
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on August 31, 2011, 12:27:34 PM
Brian and Ericka, final 3 material.

Nuff' said. :iok
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Cocoa on August 31, 2011, 07:56:56 PM
Go Cindy! With Ernie, hmmm, not so much. Or am I just biased with Asian girl players? :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Katarzyna on September 01, 2011, 03:14:38 AM
Adorable couple. Cindy doesn't look like a 30. She's so pretty.
top 3 please!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: calphin on September 01, 2011, 10:36:53 AM
Looks like they're nice and one of the top contenders in this season. Totally rooting for them!  :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: north09 on September 01, 2011, 10:45:00 AM
I'm rooting for these two to make the top 3! I can't help but to see them as strong contenders this season. Both appear to be athletic and smart, and also supportive of each other. I also can't help but notice the last time we had an interracial couple they were the yellow team as well!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Flamant on September 01, 2011, 05:23:40 PM
Normally, I don't really like couples on the race but those two look nice, smart and funny. Going to root for them!!!  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: LoveRocked on September 01, 2011, 06:36:05 PM
Cute Couple. I'm rooting for them.  :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: eragon on September 02, 2011, 08:43:17 AM
Go Asian! Very cute couple.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Belle Book on September 02, 2011, 09:59:02 AM
This team might well be one of my favorites!  And I like Asian Americans too -- especially if they're female!   :lol:

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: GabyM on September 02, 2011, 12:48:35 PM
This team might well be one of my favorites!  And I like Asian Americans too -- especially if they're female!   :lol:

Belle Book
I can tell...you seem to be a big fan of Kat :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Belle Book on September 02, 2011, 07:06:13 PM
This team might well be one of my favorites!  And I like Asian Americans too -- especially if they're female!   :lol:

Belle Book
I can tell...you seem to be a big fan of Kat :lol:

Yeah, it's pretty obvious.   :lol:  I liked Tammy too.  I didn't like Victor quite as much, but I liked Tammy.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on September 03, 2011, 11:13:35 PM
I think Cindy might have a few SMALL/SLIGHT temper and tantrums here and there. I THINK.

It's the Asian thing. :lol: :lol: :lol: (NOT TRYING TO BE RACIST)
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Belle Book on September 04, 2011, 03:22:44 PM
I think Cindy might have a few SMALL/SLIGHT temper and tantrums here and there. I THINK.

It's the Asian thing. :lol: :lol: :lol: (NOT TRYING TO BE RACIST)

Did you ever see Kat have any small slight temper tantrums?  I actually think that's a bit more the Asian male thing, as I remember Victor being a jerk on the Romanian leg, but I don't remember Tammy having any temper tantrums on the Race, let alone Kat when she was on the Race!

Still, since I think you're joking, I'll take it in stride.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jareb on September 25, 2011, 09:50:01 PM
I didn't watch any of the previews or cast interviews, but these two were my choice from the introduction of the season.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Aussie on September 25, 2011, 10:37:18 PM
I feel so Asian right now! deserved to be the title quote. These guys are my 2nd favourites! ew, dun' like 'em no more.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: theschnauzers on September 25, 2011, 11:00:09 PM
They had a good first leg. The pre-Race information did not give me a clear feel for their skill set as a team, but they managed to be mid-pack or better the entire leg, so that is a good sign for them.
We'll have to see how well Ernie manages Cindy when the crunch is on.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: georgiapeach on September 25, 2011, 11:34:41 PM
Or it could be Cindy doing the managing. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on September 26, 2011, 09:45:26 AM
They seem to work together well. They balance each other and could go far.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Flamant on September 26, 2011, 07:23:56 PM
Always having a big smile on their face. Love them!!!  :<3 :hrt: :happy:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on September 26, 2011, 11:42:48 PM
I feel so Asian right now! deserved to be the title quote. These guys are my 2nd favourites!

Completely agree! :lol:

I like the fact Ernie commenting that Cindy is a control freak and sometimes make a good team mate. Too funny! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Gengar on October 01, 2011, 09:16:40 PM
Cindy looks a lot like the Egg McMuffin girl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMZMqEWmtE
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: georgiapeach on October 01, 2011, 09:43:34 PM
OMGoodness!! Could it be??

:welcome: to RFF Gengar!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Dom on October 01, 2011, 10:16:41 PM
Cindy looks a lot like the Egg McMuffin girl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMZMqEWmtE

Wow, what a great find! I'm 99% sure you're right! Can't make out the name badge but it definitely ends with a Y!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Aussie on October 01, 2011, 11:37:18 PM
 :ascared That looks just like Cindy!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: tarobbsessed24 on October 02, 2011, 04:13:08 PM
she looks  very  creepy in that video lol
no offense i like her team but at the end she acts like a robot
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on October 02, 2011, 08:57:51 PM
Creepy Asian Girl <3
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on October 03, 2011, 07:05:46 AM
I think they go well together, but I wonder if Cindy will be constantly chastising herself for every mistake. But they remind me of Meghan and Cheyne <3
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on October 03, 2011, 08:28:20 AM
They remind me of Brian and Ericka and Flo and Zach. I'm waiting for Cindy to breakdown... a whole massive breakdown. It's only Leg 2 and she's freaking out. Flo wasn't even so impressive until about the middle legs. :neener:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: georgiapeach on October 03, 2011, 02:33:40 PM
I think she was only freaking out when she couldn't BREATHE. Hence the inhaler we saw.

I like them very much...they are great with each other!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: kiki on October 08, 2011, 03:18:51 AM
 All info from CBS Press Express

Team 1: Ernie and Cindy (Engaged)

Ernie Halvorsen

Age: 29

Hometown: Chicago 

Connection to your teammate: Engaged

Current occupation: Project Manager

 
Describe what you do: I project manage new printing press installations for commercial and sheet fed printers in North America. I bring the sold contract to life by integrating project team members from design, manufacturing and installation, all while being the single point of contact for my customer.

How will these skills help you win The Race? I frequently delegate tasks and have the ability to optimize work by utilizing a person’s skill sets. The majority of my job is dealing with time-critical, problem solving tasks that require urgent responses and decisions.

Three words to describe you: Loyal, comical and energetic.

Favorite hobbies: Traveling, no glove 16” softball, graphic design and origami. 

What famous person reminds you of yourself? Ty Pennington

What famous person reminds you of your teammate? Lucy Liu

What is the accomplishment you are most proud of? I moved to Germany by myself and lived for a year without ever traveling outside of the U.S. prior and without having any knowledge of the local language. I even joined a German baseball team and made some lifelong friendships. 

What scares you most about traveling? Lawless regions where foreigners are not highly regarded.

What excites you most about traveling? Interacting with people and cultures different from my own. Also, getting to experience different sights, smells and tastes that you cannot reproduce outside of the specific country.

Biggest challenge you and your teammate will face on The Race together: I have a roundabout way of explaining my point and my direction can be vague.

Pet peeve about your teammate: Planning – Cindy loves to plan every aspect of our lives and sometimes it can be overwhelming.

What country and place would you most like to visit and why? DPRK/North Korea because so much is unknown about it. I’ve seen videos of the Arirang, which is a great gymnastics and performance display by more than 100,000 North Koreans. I feel like this would be an incredible experience to witness this.

What do you hope to accomplish by running The Race (other then winning one million bucks)? I want to share this once in a lifetime experience of The Race with my fiancé. If we do win, we will have a nice footing to start our social business venture that will be intertwined with the needs that we see around the world.

 

Cindy Chiang

Age: 30

Hometown: Chicago

Connection to your teammate: Engaged

Current occupation: Brand Manager 

 

Describe what you do: I lead a cross-functional brand team. This includes everything from brand strategy, new products, team development, financial management to sales and marketing. 

How will these skills help you win The Race? Through my corporate job, I have been faced with challenging adversity, taking calculated risks and making quick informed decisions. My job is also highly competitive and you must have a strong desire to win with solid performance. All of these skills are vital to winning The Race and I’m confident I can bring it to win it.

Three words to describe you: Determined, dedicated and passionate.

Favorite hobbies: Exercising, cooking and planning. I like to plan anything and everything.

What famous person reminds you of yourself? I’m told that I’m a replica of Lucy Liu, but I would like to be similar to Lauren Conrad from “The Hills.” She is very entrepreneurial, highly accomplished, likeable and friendly.

What famous person reminds you of your teammate? Zach Morris from “Saved By The Bell.” Ernie loves to be the center of the action and he’s a big jokester. 

What is the accomplishment you are most proud of? I was crowned Homecoming Queen at my undergraduate university.

What scares you most about traveling? Lack of control – I’m gluten-free and it can often be a challenge to find suitable foods in new locations, especially places where there’s a language barrier.

What excites you most about traveling? I love meeting local people and understanding more about their culture and daily rituals. I find it fascinating that we are all humans, but have very different ways of living a happy life.

Biggest challenge you and your teammate will face on The Race together: Ernie needs to be more direct with me. He is so easy going that he goes along with what I want, but I don’t know if that’s really what he wants.

Pet peeve about your teammate: He’s a really happy-go-lucky person with a positive attitude and outlook on life, but for some crazy reason he always gives me some round-about answer to any of my questions.

What country and place would you most like to visit and why? India! I love the rich culture and history of India. I would love to see the Taj Mahal, explore the ‘triangle’ and see the white sandy beaches of Goa.

What do you hope to accomplish by running The Race (other then winning one million bucks)? I hope we will learn a lot about each other through this process. Our goal is to become entrepreneurs together and The Race will give us a solid opportunity to test our working relationship and see if we can actually work together.

http://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/shows/the-amazing-race/bios?id=team-bios
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Dom on October 08, 2011, 09:54:21 AM
Describe what you do: I lead a cross-functional brand team. This includes everything from brand strategy, new products, team development, financial management to sales and marketing. 

I wonder if that brand is the Egg McMuffin?!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: TARA on October 17, 2011, 07:42:22 AM
are they getting married on Nov. 15th?
 

Link removed
 
check this out please
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Dom on October 17, 2011, 08:07:31 AM
Aww good for them! I wonder if Ernie did a Chad?!  :lol:

Oh wait, I forgot they were already engaged... :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: georgiapeach on October 17, 2011, 08:24:38 AM
I always feel that weddings are very personal times...we'll see what they might like to share later on, okay?

Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: roddickcn on October 21, 2011, 02:34:19 AM
ew said they are dating not engaged   :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on October 21, 2011, 08:33:42 AM
ew said they are dating not engaged   :duno:

Their subtitle on the show says Engaged, and they said in their bio they were engaged. :js:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: georgiapeach on October 21, 2011, 06:57:32 PM
They ARE engaged.   :hrt:

Engagement photos (by permission):

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2019/TEAMS/e06ea974.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2019/TEAMS/fed7648b.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2019/TEAMS/11aacb52.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Neobie on October 21, 2011, 08:44:19 PM
Congrats in advance! Very pretty couple...

Because my detective itch was kicking in, the photos with the Sears (alright, fine, Willis) Tower were taken at Brownfield, between Roosevelt and Harrison and west of Wellis. I thought that field was fenced up and off-limits!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: banzai on October 22, 2011, 11:32:34 AM
(http://i55.[banned image hosting site].com/29ffgx5.gif)

 :hearts:  :hrt:  :wohoo:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: georgiapeach on October 22, 2011, 12:28:11 PM
Thanks for doing that Banzai!! I LOVED that moment of exuberance!!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Flamant on October 22, 2011, 01:20:02 PM
She makes me think of Brook, Claire and Mallory when she does that  :hrt:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Best Loser on October 23, 2011, 08:46:30 PM
Pictured: Ernie

(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee508/Best_Loser/Nocontract.png)




In all seriousness, at least Colin had a reason why he should pay less. I guess there was more to the argument that we just didn't see.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on October 23, 2011, 08:51:10 PM
Their relationship was not as good tonight. Ernie is always cutting himself down and trying to prove himself to her. But then he wouldn't listen at the second roadblock. Hopefully they can work it out.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Reality_Gal on October 31, 2011, 10:45:47 AM
I love Cindy. I think she has such an adorable face! I like these two as well.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: banzai on November 05, 2011, 10:52:18 PM
(http://i42.[banned image hosting site].com/11h5wcz.gif)
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 05, 2011, 11:12:14 PM
(http://i42.[banned image hosting site].com/11h5wcz.gif)

Omg thank you! :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Saravannan on November 06, 2011, 10:16:43 AM
(http://i42.[banned image hosting site].com/11h5wcz.gif)

LOL My life is made, thank you!  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: BayBay on November 07, 2011, 04:13:20 AM
Dog move by the boys. You deserved the win!! Cindy KILLED the roadblock!!
Don't worry Kisha/Jen didn't win any legs and they owned the finale last season!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Aussie on November 12, 2011, 11:33:27 PM
If they U-Turn Bill and Cathi and they're eliminated, I won't bother with the rest of this season.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: a1mamacat on November 13, 2011, 11:13:02 PM
So, Bert beyotches about the boys outrunning them last time, so she Uturns the older folks!!! (:;)

Let's hope Bill and Cathi beat them to the mat next week, and Bert and Ernie go home...although Ernie is not that bad.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Aussie on November 13, 2011, 11:14:46 PM
Well they've lost me as their fans. Obviously they only care about getting first, not getting rid of the stronger teams. Selfish.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: north09 on November 13, 2011, 11:53:41 PM
Well they've lost me as their fans. Obviously they only care about getting first, not getting rid of the stronger teams. Selfish.

They used the U-Turn on the team closest behind them to win a leg, which is a smart use of the U-Turn considering what happened last time. Using it to get rid of the stronger teams is taking the easy way out.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Aussie on November 13, 2011, 11:56:44 PM
Well they've lost me as their fans. Obviously they only care about getting first, not getting rid of the stronger teams. Selfish.

They used the U-Turn on the team closest behind them to win a leg, which is a smart use of the U-Turn considering what happened last time. Using it to get rid of the stronger teams is taking the easy way out.

But I thought the objective of the race was to win the whole thing, not just a leg. Getting rid of a stronger team would give them a better chance of winning, but obviously they didn't care.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: David on November 14, 2011, 01:14:08 AM
Definitely I'm just hating them so much now. They're just a bit arrogant too, from my point of view. I feel Ernie is only in the team to make Cindy's wishes come true, he doesn't even seem to think by himself. Obviously, they're not a weak team, but if they have almost never won a leg is because they are worse than other teams. And I hope they don't make it to the Final 3.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: north09 on November 14, 2011, 01:25:35 AM
Well they've lost me as their fans. Obviously they only care about getting first, not getting rid of the stronger teams. Selfish.

They used the U-Turn on the team closest behind them to win a leg, which is a smart use of the U-Turn considering what happened last time. Using it to get rid of the stronger teams is taking the easy way out.

But I thought the objective of the race was to win the whole thing, not just a leg. Getting rid of a stronger team would give them a better chance of winning, but obviously they didn't care.

But only one team can win it all. Winning the legs along the way has always been a goal with a prize at the end. Again, U-Turning the stronger teams to win in the long run is taking the easy way out. Do you want to watch a race where its one strong team against 2 weak teams in the end, or three strong teams fighting to win it all?
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Aussie on November 14, 2011, 01:27:59 AM
Well they've lost me as their fans. Obviously they only care about getting first, not getting rid of the stronger teams. Selfish.

They used the U-Turn on the team closest behind them to win a leg, which is a smart use of the U-Turn considering what happened last time. Using it to get rid of the stronger teams is taking the easy way out.

But I thought the objective of the race was to win the whole thing, not just a leg. Getting rid of a stronger team would give them a better chance of winning, but obviously they didn't care.

But only one team can win it all. Winning the legs along the way has always been a goal with a prize at the end. Again, U-Turning the stronger teams to win in the long run is taking the easy way out. Do you want to watch a race where its one strong team against 2 weak teams in the end, or three strong teams fighting to win it all?

Well if they are all strong, boring teams I'd rather not watch it.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: scruffs on November 14, 2011, 02:06:30 AM
Well they've lost me as their fans. Obviously they only care about getting first, not getting rid of the stronger teams. Selfish.

They used the U-Turn on the team closest behind them to win a leg, which is a smart use of the U-Turn considering what happened last time. Using it to get rid of the stronger teams is taking the easy way out.

if this is really a smart use of the U-turn then they should have used it to Andy and Tommy on leg 7, which is obviously a strong team....

and yeah, I'm starting to not like them,...
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: scruffs on November 14, 2011, 02:10:05 AM
I'm seeing a runner up finish to this pair, like they will be in first place for the entire finale leg, then they one of them will get stuck in a memory RB or in a final task,
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Neobie on November 14, 2011, 02:21:28 AM
Can the people who berated them for not U-Turning the second place team last week please raise their hands?

(U-Turning Andy/Tommy would have accomplished nothing this leg.)
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on November 14, 2011, 04:45:17 AM
Can the people who berated them for not U-Turning the second place team last week please raise their hands?

(U-Turning Andy/Tommy would have accomplished nothing this leg.)

I find it weird that the U-TURN this season is used in a very different manner. In past seasons, people use the U-TURN to survive last place.

This season, teams use the U-TURN so that they can win the leg... it's really how you see it. :lol:

ALTHOUGH, I think them U-TURNing Bill and Cathi is completely pointless... but, you never know they might have went in the wrong direction and ended up coming behind Bill and Cathi and not win the leg. Of course... the probability is low, but I guess especially after what they experienced last leg, they're using the U-TURN for sure this time round.

Bill and Cathi U-TURNing Laurence and Zac is <333333333333333333333333333 though. :lol: :neener:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on November 14, 2011, 07:38:49 AM
I think they U-turned them because they were desperate to "win a leg", which I think is ridiculous. They have the wrong attitude and mentality. That said, I must say that I am kind of tired of them. I mean, U-Turning old people? LAME. *sigh*
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on November 14, 2011, 08:05:28 AM
 :lol:I think different teams really appeal to different people. I like their attitude and laughed at how they raced. How Cindy laughed at Ernie throughout the RB and everything. U-TURNing old people is fine, the fact that they wanted to win the leg is understandable especially what happened last leg when they lost their first place with AN EXPRESS PASS. That must have been a blow for them. I'm a Bill and Cathi fan and I think Ernie and Cindy's U-TURN is lame, but the fact that Bill and Cathi have constantly proved to be a team to beat definitely made the other teams worry about them. Therefore, I see it that Ernie and Cindy U-TURNed Bill and Cathi because they feel threatened by them, which is a good thing. :lol: Not because they're old people.... :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on November 14, 2011, 08:06:47 AM
I suppose I'm just biased. :lol: But I still think Ernie and Cindy have the wrong attitude. ;)
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on November 14, 2011, 08:34:55 AM
For me I was kinda turn off when Laurence and Zac and Andy and Tommy were the only 2 teams who were not excited when they ripped open their clue and knew that they'll fly to Copenhagen, Denmark... I wished there was more excitement from them like the other two teams... it's not just about racing and finishing first every like (like Andy and Tommy) but ENJOYING the process. Of course Andy and Tommy have showed how they enjoyed the process at times... but not so much with Laurence and Zac... :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Best Loser on November 14, 2011, 08:38:01 AM
First they call the snowboarders mean for passing them in a foot race, then they throw a fit because Laurence & Zac won't tell them their flight information. This is for a million dollars! Don't act so surprised when other teams don't want you to win!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: krabbe on November 14, 2011, 10:21:12 AM
First they call the snowboarders mean for passing them in a foot race, then they throw a fit because Laurence & Zac won't tell them their flight information. This is for a million dollars! Don't act so surprised when other teams don't want you to win!

Exactly! I don't like their attitude, especially Cindy's. Two times they expected things to be handed to them on a silver platter. To quote her own words, "NOT GOOD"  :neener:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: David on November 14, 2011, 12:05:48 PM
I've rethought.

I have to say that Ernie & Cindy will be great for an overall 5th place.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Aussie on November 14, 2011, 01:22:47 PM
I've rethought.

I have to say that Ernie & Cindy will be great for an overall 5th place.

I agree 100% with this.  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Flamant on November 20, 2011, 01:40:41 PM
I don't get all of the sudden hate for Ernie & Cindy. Is it really because of the uturn?
Like people said about Andy & Tommy passing them at the last second in Malawi, it's a race!
Personnally, I really like them. They are funny to watch, they don't bicker with each other, they are (almost) always smiling/laughing and enjoying the race.  :hrt:
Hope them or Bill & Cathi win!! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: David on November 21, 2011, 08:55:26 AM
I don't really like her nor him. Really! They always keep thinking they are the team to beat, and that really annoys me. I was extremely happy when they lost the tickets, and got angry when a 3-hour train ride didn't include a ticketer going by the train. What are you talking about?

I've been to Germany, and rid 4 trains of DB. The 4 times we needed to show our tickets, and they were short trips, so I'm almost sure production made something in there.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on November 21, 2011, 09:02:11 AM
I've been to Germany, and rid 4 trains of DB. The 4 times we needed to show our tickets, and they were short trips, so I'm almost sure production made something in there.

Sounds fishy to me indeed...

And does anyone else find Ernie to be a bit strange? :umn: I mean, especially at the muscles task.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Dom on November 21, 2011, 09:09:56 AM
I've been to Germany, and rid 4 trains of DB. The 4 times we needed to show our tickets, and they were short trips, so I'm almost sure production made something in there.

Sounds fishy to me indeed...

And does anyone else find Ernie to be a bit strange? :umn: I mean, especially at the muscles task.

Haha I actually think he's kinda funny. He seems a bit crazy but quiet at the same time, and when he gets excited he does some strange things (like tippy-toeing out of the muscles room!)
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: krabbe on November 21, 2011, 09:37:52 AM
OMG they have got to be the luckiest team ever!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Neobie on November 21, 2011, 11:58:01 AM
Not true. I've travelled by train in Germany taking several different trips, and the percentage of times I've got checked by a conductor was only about 30%. No shenanigans needed to be involved.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on November 21, 2011, 12:12:58 PM
I'm enjoying this team each and every time. They give me a very Tammy and Victor vibe. You either hate them or dislike them and I really like them. They do know they're the team to beat because they're indeed the team to beat, but they don't do that all the time... like silly stunts from Andy and Tommy at the Legoland Task, seems to be like taunting Sandy. Major annoyance for me.

They're what makes the race interesting to watch and they work well together as a team!! :tup: :luvya:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Flamant on November 28, 2011, 02:43:10 PM
Looks like I'm one of the last one who likes them. Personnally, I find them entertaining, at least beside the teams left (lets not talk about J/S; A/T are too nice & dominate :lol:; and A/M, entertaining, yes, but not as much). Like I said, they create a lot of drama (U-Turn, someone?). Also love how they interact (sometime, it feels like they are going to bicker, but just don't), how they respond to each other (at the waffle detour, Cindy was how? how? how? at Ernie who answered at all of those questions, the last one being "How do J/S assemble the kiosk that quickly?" with Ernie saying "Because they're taller than us" :lol3:. If they werent there, I would find this season pretty boring.

But I can understand why people dont like them (Cindy is whiny, etc). Personnally, I like teams that puts action in the show.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: claysparks on November 28, 2011, 10:47:47 PM
I hate them both.Annoying & irritating to the max.I can't stand looking at the face of Ernie.lol.His Ray Liotta eyes just freak me out.lol Hate Cindy.She looks like my whiny neighbor here.Wish they got eliminated earlier when their train tickets got lost.Damn!Hope they didn't make it to the Final 3.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Peace, Love, TAR! :D on November 29, 2011, 08:19:49 AM
Ernie and Cindy are awesome!!!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on November 29, 2011, 08:29:24 AM
I don't think they can win if they make the final because though they usually finish tasks in first place they haven't been able to translate that to first place finishes. Many times this season they have finished the roadblock or detour or both in first or second and checked in lower than that at the pit stop. Navigation is not their strong suit apparently. It caused them to be passed on the way to the Pitstop in Phuket, Malawi, and Brussels. In the first Malawi they also ruined a good performance at the Roadblock and Detour with the  bed carrying. They also failed to win a prize at the end of leg 9 despite finishing the last task in first because Amani and Marcus made it to the Pitstop first.

It must be frustrating to be a fan of theirs.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: David on November 29, 2011, 09:47:31 AM
It must be frustrating to be a fan of theirs.

<3

PS: Even though it is more frustrating to have Laurence & Zac in a Prediction Game.



I mainly think those two have tried to be the good team, the kind ones, the sweet ones, and I just don't feel they are that way, IDK. She gets on my nerves, literally, and IMHO, they are getting more airtime than the NFL couple; really.

Great Final 4 bet!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on November 29, 2011, 09:53:59 AM
I'm actually not frustrated by Ernie and Cindy not winning ALL the legs. I like it that they're just like any average team who set high standards for themselves but only fall short of it because they're not perfect. And on the legs they ran a perfect leg, they're thankful for it.

They definitely could have been a team to beat if they maintain their lead all the time, but besides Cindy showing slight frustration at times, this team has been nothing but gracious to one another and enjoy their moments on the race. How many times have we seen Cindy getting excited because Ernie gets to do something cool or challenging? How many times have we seen Ernie just simply being a gentleman to Cindy's behaviour, tolerant to her comments and showing pleasure while completing his tasks.

They may not have been my favourite team this season but I believe they definitely do not deserve all the hate they have been receiving. Comparing them to teams like Jonathan and Victoria, Ray and Deana, Lynn and Alex, Weavers... really? You really hate them? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: autowil on November 29, 2011, 09:57:32 AM
They are getting more and more like  Lily & Jan from China Rush 2...

Cindy look more and more like Lily, getting more and more competitive.. :groan: :groan: (:;) (:;)

But their winning is more better than Andy & Tommy..  ;)
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on November 29, 2011, 10:00:40 AM
True, they aren't a real fighting team; I just don't care for them.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: David on November 29, 2011, 10:00:48 AM
They may not have been my favourite team this season but I believe they definitely do not deserve all the hate they have been receiving. Comparing them to teams like Jonathan and Victoria, Ray and Deana, Lynn and Alex, Weavers... really? You really hate them? :duno:

I definitely loved the Weavers, so...

I never liked these two. That's what I really think. I don't think of them as the team they want to show us. That's my own matter with them.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on November 29, 2011, 10:00:52 AM
And not to mention that Cindy does her share of the tasks really well. Remember Taiwan's Roadblock and the one where she had to recite the poem? She maintained the lead for the team, both times going into the task in first place and leaving/completing in first as well.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Baboo199 on November 29, 2011, 01:45:26 PM
cindy is a bitch,uturning the ma pa wasn't nice
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Aussie on November 29, 2011, 01:52:02 PM
They are getting more and more like  Lily & Jan from China Rush 2...

Cindy look more and more like Lily, getting more and more competitive.. :groan: :groan: (:;) (:;)

But their winning is more better than Andy & Tommy..  ;)

I loved Lily and Jan, but I really don't like Ernie and Cindy.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Belle Book on November 29, 2011, 07:29:01 PM
I'm actually not frustrated by Ernie and Cindy not winning ALL the legs. I like it that they're just like any average team who set high standards for themselves but only fall short of it because they're not perfect. And on the legs they ran a perfect leg, they're thankful for it.

They definitely could have been a team to beat if they maintain their lead all the time, but besides Cindy showing slight frustration at times, this team has been nothing but gracious to one another and enjoy their moments on the race. How many times have we seen Cindy getting excited because Ernie gets to do something cool or challenging? How many times have we seen Ernie just simply being a gentleman to Cindy's behaviour, tolerant to her comments and showing pleasure while completing his tasks.

They may not have been my favourite team this season but I believe they definitely do not deserve all the hate they have been receiving. Comparing them to teams like Jonathan and Victoria, Ray and Deana, Lynn and Alex, Weavers... really? You really hate them? :duno:

I think the main reason why some people hate Ernie & Cindy is because they U-Turned Bill & Cathi.  A lot of people love Bill & Cathi so they hate Ernie & Cindy for U-Turning the older couple.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on November 29, 2011, 07:41:46 PM
And not to mention that Cindy does her share of the tasks really well. Remember Taiwan's Roadblock and the one where she had to recite the poem? She maintained the lead for the team, both times going into the task in first place and leaving/completing in first as well.

They should be congratulated for being so good at tasks but they almost always squander their hard work by making a dumb mistake. It is becoming quite the pattern. They don't have very good race strategy. They make poor decisions regarding race powers and everything that is not tasks. Their strong task performance is probably the only reason they haven't been eliminated.
In this way they are very similar to the cowboys. They get along well and work harder than anyone, only to lose all of that by always finding a silly way to screw up.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Puppet on November 29, 2011, 08:04:58 PM
I'm actually not frustrated by Ernie and Cindy not winning ALL the legs. I like it that they're just like any average team who set high standards for themselves but only fall short of it because they're not perfect. And on the legs they ran a perfect leg, they're thankful for it.

They definitely could have been a team to beat if they maintain their lead all the time, but besides Cindy showing slight frustration at times, this team has been nothing but gracious to one another and enjoy their moments on the race. How many times have we seen Cindy getting excited because Ernie gets to do something cool or challenging? How many times have we seen Ernie just simply being a gentleman to Cindy's behaviour, tolerant to her comments and showing pleasure while completing his tasks.

They may not have been my favourite team this season but I believe they definitely do not deserve all the hate they have been receiving. Comparing them to teams like Jonathan and Victoria, Ray and Deana, Lynn and Alex, Weavers... really? You really hate them? :duno:

I think the main reason why some people hate Ernie & Cindy is because they U-Turned Bill & Cathi.  A lot of people love Bill & Cathi so they hate Ernie & Cindy for U-Turning the older couple.

Belle Book

I agree with this, which is quite sad. Race powers are there to be used. If people don't like their favourite teams getting U-Turned, maybe we can petition for them to remove the U-Turn.

And not to mention that Cindy does her share of the tasks really well. Remember Taiwan's Roadblock and the one where she had to recite the poem? She maintained the lead for the team, both times going into the task in first place and leaving/completing in first as well.

They should be congratulated for being so good at tasks but they almost always squander their hard work by making a dumb mistake. It is becoming quite the pattern. They don't have very good race strategy. They make poor decisions regarding race powers and everything that is not tasks. Their strong task performance is probably the only reason they haven't been eliminated.
In this way they are very similar to the cowboys. They get along well and work harder than anyone, only to lose all of that by always finding a silly way to screw up.

I agree with this too. They are great at tasks and challenges but they are not race-smart. I wouldn't say making a dumb mistake because ultimately, they are still here and many of the other teams aren't, so I wouldn't call them dumb.

Dumb would be those who don't read clues and get unnecessary penalties. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Polaroid on November 29, 2011, 10:24:47 PM
I see no problem with them U-Turning Bill & Cathi... If Andy & Tommy were right behind them, Ernie & Cindy would have U-Turned them. :groan: It's not like Bill & Cathi are immune from being U-Turned... goodness. Besides, it's not like Bill & Cathi were eliminated or got really behind as a result of the U-Turn. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on November 29, 2011, 11:35:02 PM
I see no problem with them U-Turning Bill & Cathi... If Andy & Tommy were right behind them, Ernie & Cindy would have U-Turned them. :groan: It's not like Bill & Cathi are immune from being U-Turned... goodness. Besides, it's not like Bill & Cathi were eliminated or got really behind as a result of the U-Turn. :duno:

Ditto.

U-TURN is part of the game. Tammy and Victor used the U-TURN on Kisha and Jen and wrote "We can't outrun you" on the U-TURN board in TAR 14. It's true that Tammy and Victor did slow down Kisha and Jen, however.. their elimination in the end was because of the navigational problems on that leg. Had they done a Bill and Cathi who didn't get lost in Copenhagen, they would have been fine just like Bill and Cathi, U-TURNed and still second.

The U-TURN on Bill and Cathi was simply a COMPLIMENT that they were directly behind them and based on what happened to them on the previous leg with their WIN snatched from the snowboarders AND having used their Express Pass already. So they really wanted to win the leg just in case in the last moment, they got lost or anything and Bill and Cathi wins the leg. It was purely STRATEGIC. Just as strategic as a SECOND last place team trying to U-TURN a LAST place team because they want to stay alive. Or simply, a team U-TURNing a really STRONG team to make sure that they fall behind and get eliminated (Margie and Luke on Amanda and Kris)

I don't really see the big hooha on this strategic use of the U-TURN? You mean, you really rather see them U-TURN Andy and Tommy instead because they hated them for snatching their win from the previous leg? That would be completely superficial and did nothing at all. Andy and Tommy would not have won the leg nor would they have been eliminated. So the U-TURN would be completely pointless. And this is coming from a Bill and Cathi super fan, so I'm not trying to protect Ernie and Cindy. Just reasoning things out.

Because if you take some time to think... did you believe that Michael and Louie's U-TURN on Joe and Heidi and Brent and Caite's U-TURN on Carol and Brandy were strategic? NO! Because it's completely personal and it made the race SO very hard to watch. Not only that, they ended up not winning because stronger teams like Jet and Cord were always getting in before them. If you give me a choice, I'll rather the U-TURN be used in a strategic THAN personal way..

Just saying.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Aussie on November 30, 2011, 01:07:10 AM
But to me, it seemed they only U-Turned to guarantee first place, and were not thinking into future legs. Maybe it's just me...
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on November 30, 2011, 01:39:49 AM
But to me, it seemed they only U-Turned to guarantee first place, and were not thinking into future legs. Maybe it's just me...

U-TURNing Andy and Tommy would not have done anything.

The rest of the teams are not as good as racing as compared to them. The only team Marcus and Amani who have won a leg, stumbled on a NEL and have not been seen by E/C for the entire leg due to the late flight.

So. It's either they use it or don't use it. They probably anticipate that there's only 2 U-TURNs on the entire race. And if they don't use it now... there probably won't be another one. So the most logical reason would be to use it for a win and try to get first place... right?
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: serendipity on November 30, 2011, 02:01:18 AM
But to me, it seemed they only U-Turned to guarantee first place, and were not thinking into future legs. Maybe it's just me...

U-TURNing Andy and Tommy would not have done anything.

The rest of the teams are not as good as racing as compared to them. The only team Marcus and Amani who have won a leg, stumbled on a NEL and have not been seen by E/C for the entire leg due to the late flight.

So. It's either they use it or don't use it. They probably anticipate that there's only 2 U-TURNs on the entire race. And if they don't use it now... there probably won't be another one. So the most logical reason would be to use it for a win and try to get first place... right?

Joab, I completely agree with you, it's sad that most people don't realize the logic of this U-turn.

It's a plain and easy decision, if Ernie/Cindy wanted to use the U-turn at that time, the most logical choice is Bill/Cathi because:
(1) they wouldn't know what task would be ahead and B/C were like 10 minutes behind them, they might get lost on the way to pit stop (like what happened last leg), so why don't have a longer buffer?
(2) they did not see other teams at that time, so they were only sure B/C were behind them at that point
(3) Andy/Tommy were strong but they were not 100% sure A/T were behind them at that point and they assumed Amani/Marcus were way behind which wouldn't make A/T eliminated even U-turn them
(4) Since they assumed A/M were way behind, it didn't make sense to U-turn other teams like Z/L and J/S

So with all reasons above considered, if they chose to use the U-turn the most sensible choice was on B/C, otherwise there would be no effect at all.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on November 30, 2011, 07:30:12 AM
I agree with Aussie; Ernie and Cindy had the wrong mentality and still have the wrong mentality if they expect to win the Race. They just want to win a leg and they aren't thinking about the most important leg.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on November 30, 2011, 07:59:05 AM
I agree with Aussie; Ernie and Cindy had the wrong mentality and still have the wrong mentality if they expect to win the Race. They just want to win a leg and they aren't thinking about the most important leg.

This discussion is fun. How is trying to win a leg and using a U-TURN to win a leg a wrong mentality? If I get to win a leg and go home with a trip for two, at least I know I won't be going home empty handed even if I don't win right?

I really don't get the comment of "They just want to win a leg and they aren't thinking about the most important leg." So let's say, Ernie and Cindy don't use the U-TURN on Bill and Cathi and they still win the leg.. how would it affect their actions in future of "not thinking about the most important leg"? As with, they did use the U-TURN, so how did it affect their future performance on the race?? This isn't making sense at all.. Prophet? Please explain further because I really would sincerely like to know how did the usage of the U-TURN on Bill and Cathi affected Ernie and Cindy if you said "they aren't thinking about the most important leg"??

This is really confusing. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Dom on November 30, 2011, 08:07:51 AM
What I think Prophet is trying to say is that they seem more concerned about winning a leg than they do about surviving until the final three. They were so utterly heartbroken to be told they were Team Number Three in Brussels, when most Amazing Race teams would say 'That's okay, at least we're in the final four'. When they used the U-Turn in Denmark, they used it solely for the purpose of winning the leg. If they wanted to increase their chances of surviving the leg, they would have U-Turned a team at the back. If they wanted to get rid of a strong team, they would have U-Turned Andy & Tommy. But their priority was to win the leg.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on November 30, 2011, 08:20:32 AM
What I think Prophet is trying to say is that they seem more concerned about winning a leg than they do about surviving until the final three. They were so utterly heartbroken to be told they were Team Number Three in Brussels, when most Amazing Race teams would say 'That's okay, at least we're in the final four'. When they used the U-Turn in Denmark, they used it solely for the purpose of winning the leg. If they wanted to increase their chances of surviving the leg, they would have U-Turned a team at the back. If they wanted to get rid of a strong team, they would have U-Turned Andy & Tommy. But their priority was to win the leg.

But the thing here is... they have no problem surviving each leg and not only that, it's not even the final three yet.. so why should they be concerned about something that's so far away? I mean, all this while they have been at the front of the pack, so their only main concern is about whether they win or not. And when they don't win, they will talk about it naturally... isn't that logical? It's just like Marcus and Amani, they're at the back all the time and when they finally get a break and no longer is the last team at a particular task, they talk about being the underdogs and surviving... and how it's not over until Phil says so. Isn't it the same theory?? :duno: You look at Marcus and Amani and Jeremy and Sandy, they are at one point of time nearly at the back of the pack... or on the brink of elimination. They're not strong teams so if they made it through, it would be natural for them to say "It's okay, at least we're team number four". But all these while, Ernie and Cindy has been in the front pack, so naturally if they don't win, they will be disappointed, but they know they also won't be eliminated because there's always the bottom pack team. You can't expect them to say 'It's okay we're team number four' when they have been first throughout the entire leg and only drop to the back because of one task and not win. I mean, who wouldn't be disappointed? If you play a fantasy game and expected to win because you thought you did well, only to find out you incur a 30 mins penalty for not doing something right and don't win, you'll be pissed with yourself right? I don't get why are you all being so harsh on them when they're just being harsh on themselves? It's not like they blamed other teams for their losses right? Even after Andy and Tommy outran them, they didn't U-TURN them on the next leg just because Andy and Tommy "stole" their win on the previous leg. They used it as a strategic move on Bill and Cathi so that they can secure the win for the leg... what's wrong with that?


If they wanted to increase their chances of surviving the leg, they would have U-Turned a team at the back. If they wanted to get rid of a strong team, they would have U-Turned Andy & Tommy. But their priority was to win the leg.

But, they are really focusing and increasing their chances of winning the leg and NOT surviving it. Why would you want to U-TURN a team all the way at the back if you're trying to win a leg? For Bill and Cathi to catch up... no right?

As what i've said, they probably figured Amani and Marcus WOULD be eliminated because they didn't catch the flight AND they haven't seen them for the entire leg as of then until the U-TURN. U-TURNing Andy and Tommy would be POINTLESS because it does NOTHING at all. They knew that there's no way Andy and Tommy's going to get eliminated, why U-TURN them and make bad blood with the snowboarders? Might as well U-TURN Bill and Cathi and secure your win for the leg right?
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on November 30, 2011, 08:21:04 AM
Yes, Dom, that's what I mean. I just feel that if they want to win the Race, then that's the wrong strategy (I really liked Kisha and Jen's winning strategy). But if Ernie and Cindy just want to win a few legs and win prizes, then they've accomplished their goal. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on November 30, 2011, 08:25:15 AM
Prophet... there is no strategy here?? Ernie and Cindy just want to win each leg of the race? I don't get how trying to win legs on the race becomes a strategy. You mean, you have seen an interview of Kisha and Jen who said that their aim is to get by each leg AND don't win and only win the last one? No right? It's more of Kisha and Jen always did their best but somehow don't win (but they DO want to win each leg for sure) and until it comes to a point they just thought that as long as they win the last one, it's all that counts.

Why are you guys talking about things that doesn't even hold true for Ernie and Cindy? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on November 30, 2011, 08:28:12 AM
Kisha and Jen said at the finish line that their strategy was to win the leg that counted.

I've stated my opinion, and I don't really want to argue any further. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on November 30, 2011, 08:30:18 AM
Prophet, there is no argument.. it's just a pure discussion of ideas and opinions. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on November 30, 2011, 08:32:25 AM
 Everyone always has their own opinion about teams and no one ever changes their mind because of what someone else thinks of a team :lol: It makes for interesting discussion though.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on November 30, 2011, 08:36:32 AM
Yea... I'm just stating my opinions on things which I felt didn't make much fair judgement for team Ernie and Cindy by some of you. If you all are able to have a valid point of view, I may be convinced that their U-TURN used was pointless (which is fairly true that they could have not used it and still win the leg... but you never know) and that they shouldn't always focus on trying to win each leg of the race. Because if I remembered correctly, Ernie and Cindy had always been excited to go to new places at the start of each leg of the race (Laurence and Zac and the Snowboarders were the only two teams who didn't jump with excitement when the race instructed them to go to Copenhagen [EUROPE] at the pitstart) and are seemingly nice to the other teams. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: apskip on November 30, 2011, 09:47:13 AM
I have stayed out of this until now, but it's time to put a few things into perspective. Prophet, how does using a U-turn harm the long-term chances of Ernie and Cindy winning AR19? There are only 2 potential reasons I can think of:
1. Using the U-Turn will prohibit them from using any future U-turns IF THERE ARE ANY
2. Other teams will be pissed off and retaliate in some way

I see both of those as complete red herrings. There wasn't a U-Turn in Episodes 9 and 10 and won't be any more U-Turns in the final 2 legs. Other teams are going to be focusing on making the F3 and not worrying about trying to hurt Ernie/Cindy because they harmed Bill and Cathi by using the U-Turn on them.

My bottom line is that I agree with Joab completely in this argument. The "I hate Ernie and Cindy" crowd does not appreciate that Bill and Cathi put themselves into too big a hole and doing the second DETOUR was not the real cause of it. Their inability to master the BodyBuilding poses quickly was the real cause.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on November 30, 2011, 09:51:02 AM
Using the U-Turn doesn't effect their winning chances at all. :lol: I just think their attitude does. And I don't think it led to Bill and Cathi's elimination either.



My bottom line is that I agree with Joab completely in this argument.

:o
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on November 30, 2011, 10:04:07 AM
 :lol: People, it's really just a friendly discussion. Not an argument okay? :hrt: :hrt: :hrt: (I really don't mean to annoy/piss/intimidate anyone in anyway...)

It's fun to discuss about The Amazing Race and put different perspectives and views on the table! :tup: :luvya:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on November 30, 2011, 10:05:34 AM
It's fun to discuss about The Amazing Race and put different perspectives and views on the table! :tup: :luvya:

I agree! I'm not offended by anyone here, and I hope I'm not offending anyone. :)
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Best Loser on November 30, 2011, 10:59:19 AM
I don't really like Ernie & Cindy, but I'm not upset that they U-Turned Bill & Cathi, they had a reason to use it. What annoys me about them concerning the U-Turn is how they said using it is a dirty move and then threw a fit about Andy & Tommy "stealing" the win.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: David on November 30, 2011, 11:40:13 AM
Good lord I didn't say my opinion, once again.

I'll just say what I think.

ERNIE.AND.CINDY.GO.HOME.NOW.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Dånooky on December 04, 2011, 04:22:34 PM
What I will say is that I think Ernie & Cindy discovered that they are prone to make navigational mistakes. Them U-Turning Bill and Cathi was a safe bet because they could guarantee the outcome "BC won't steal our win". U-Turning any other team wouldn't serve this same purpose. Also, there was no way way that they could guarantee the outcome "a strong team will be eliminated if we U-Turn them".

In conclusion since "thinking about long-term survival and eliminating a stronger team" was not very likely with the U-Turn, it was rational to go for "at least let's win this leg". It was definitely the safest bet.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: paldog123456 on December 04, 2011, 05:38:03 PM
I agree with Danooky. Also, that didn't look like a ver difficult or time-consuming Detour, so anyone could've caught up pretty quickly,
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on December 05, 2011, 04:24:05 AM
I feel like we're back to Season 14, where I didn't mind ANYONE winning. (I liked Tammy and Victor best, hoping that Jaime and Cara can be the first all-female team to win then or Margie and Luke to be the first paren-child team to win)

Ernie and Cindy gives me the Tammy and Victor vibes, here's hoping that they will win the race.

However, the clear emphasis is on Marcus and Amani as the comeback kids and underdogs. So they could be the ones winning too.

BUT, if Jeremy and Sandy win. I'll be shocked beyond words. But I won't be displeased. I think they're an awesome team who worked well together.

But if I have one team to choose, I'll be rooting for Ernie and Cindy. :luvya:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Topita on December 11, 2011, 08:43:21 AM
Not true. I've travelled by train in Germany taking several different trips, and the percentage of times I've got checked by a conductor was only about 30%. No shenanigans needed to be involved.

Sorry for the late response.
I agree with this. I live in the Netherlands and have travelled by train here, in Germany and Belgium a lot!
Sometimes you're on a train for 2,5-3 or 4 hours, and nobody comes to ever check your ticket, sometimes they do a run 3 times.  :cmas11
I do think it's more likely to get checked on an international train but there are no guarantees for sure. I don't think this was 'rigged' by the production or anything they were extremely lucky.

One thing I don't get is how TAR isn't always equally strict on rules I think. Sometimes people do get timepenalties and speedbumps for eg not following part of a clue (taking a taxi instead of walking etc), sometimes they don't like here, driving without a ticket. It's not really illegal but if you get caught you do get a fine from the company that runs the service. So I'm not sure why that doesn't qualify for a penalty of sorts.  :cmas5

Anyway, can't say I have been a big fan of this team this series, probably because of the editting they got maybe..? So somehow I can't see them winning really. I think most likely it will be one of the two other teams. Cindy loses her calm a lot under pressure which could cost them the win for silly reasons maybe. Just my two cents.  :reindeer
(By the way, love the x-mas smileys here!  :cmas16 )
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on December 11, 2011, 10:29:56 AM
I'm going to go with them winning it tomorrow. Although my guts secretly screams Amani and Marcus. :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Flamant on December 11, 2011, 11:24:12 AM
Hope they win!! They were my favourite since the beginning!! :cmas9
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: apskip on December 11, 2011, 11:38:38 AM

I agree with this. I live in the Netherlands and have travelled by train here, in Germany and Belgium a lot!
Sometimes you're on a train for 2,5-3 or 4 hours, and nobody comes to ever check your ticket, sometimes they do a run 3 times.  :cmas11

Topita,
I once knew the answer to this question, but I don't now:
Are you on international trains supposed to punch your train ticket on special machines before entering a train?
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Topita on December 11, 2011, 03:45:20 PM

I agree with this. I live in the Netherlands and have travelled by train here, in Germany and Belgium a lot!
Sometimes you're on a train for 2,5-3 or 4 hours, and nobody comes to ever check your ticket, sometimes they do a run 3 times.  :cmas11

Topita,
I once knew the answer to this question, but I don't now:
Are you on international trains supposed to punch your train ticket on special machines before entering a train?

I think that depends on the country you are in most likely. The last time I was on an international train I went to Paris on TGV, it was an e-ticket I booked and all they did was check it. This was over 2 years ago though but I think this still applies. I don't remember going through any special machines but I suppose it's possible on other international stations. In other travels to Germany and Belgium I just purchased a ticket at the international ticket office and they simply checked it on the train.

On the trains inside the Netherlands you just purchase a ticket usually from a machine and they stamp it with a date/timestamp. You can also buy a ticket without a date but then you have to date/timestamp it on the platform before entering the train else it's not valid and you'll be given a fine.

They have changed a lot in transport in the Netherlands though eg in subwaystations. You need to enter the card before you can actually get on the platform.
There was a plan to use socalled 'ov-chipgate' (i.e. you'd use your public transport chipcard which is now used everywhere here in the Netherlands unless you pay cash which is a lot more expensive) on most trainstations but as far as I know they abandonned that plan since there were too many technical problems/ failures and complaints of malfunction. Not sure how many stations have them at the moment, since nowadays I don't travel as much by train as I did 2-3 years ago.

Typically I don't think they use that sort of system for international trains as it would be too much hassle for tourists to go through. I think it's more common to have someone on the train checking the tickets.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on December 11, 2011, 08:46:05 PM
Take a look at the first page where all the comments were positive for this team. (And they a look at recent pages) :cmaslol

I still think they made a great team, predicted them to be in the final three, predicted them to win. And they did.

Deserving winners, definitely. :cmas16
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on December 11, 2011, 08:50:14 PM
I still don't like them, but congrats anyway :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: paldog123456 on December 11, 2011, 09:08:38 PM
I still don't like them, but congrats anyway :lol:

THIS.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Best Loser on December 12, 2011, 12:21:45 AM
Now that I think of it, had they been on almost any of the other seasons I probably would have liked them a lot more. This season just had such a superb cast with so many likable teams.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Topita on December 12, 2011, 03:51:09 AM
I still don't like them, but congrats anyway :lol:

Yeah.. that..  :cmaslol

@Best Loser:
I haven't seen all the seasons of TAR but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have been their fan had they been on eg season 14,16,17,18 either..
In fact I think all those series had better casts than this one. Just my opinion, sorry!
I did like Bill & Cathi and Andy and Tommy overall (minus the religion-remarks that is), but that was about it for me this season I'm afraid.  :cmas5
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Flamant on December 12, 2011, 09:00:44 AM
Wow. I feel pretty alone here but I'm happy they won!!  :hearts:
Congratulation too both of you!! :cmas9
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on December 12, 2011, 09:06:27 AM
Wow. I feel pretty alone here but I'm happy they won!!  :hearts:
Congratulation too both of you!! :cmas9

You're not alone. :cmas23 :cmas9 :reindeer
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Alfwin on December 12, 2011, 09:40:57 AM
I am also happy that they won!I picked them for the win since leg 1!To be honest, they deserve it. :cmas23
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Squall16 on December 12, 2011, 01:47:13 PM
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Winners-Ernie-Cindy-1040747.aspx
 (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Winners-Ernie-Cindy-1040747.aspx)
http://ernie-cindy.com (http://ernie-cindy.com)
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Squall16 on December 12, 2011, 01:49:25 PM
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Winners-Ernie-Cindy-1040747.aspx
 (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Winners-Ernie-Cindy-1040747.aspx)

http://ernie-cindy.com (http://ernie-cindy.com)

Not to sound rude, or pretentious or anything, but if this is the future site for ernie & cindy's philanthropy. They should stop with the modeling and film resume. It looks bad in my opinion.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Aussie on December 12, 2011, 02:29:52 PM
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Winners-Ernie-Cindy-1040747.aspx
 (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Winners-Ernie-Cindy-1040747.aspx)

http://ernie-cindy.com (http://ernie-cindy.com)

Not to sound rude, or pretentious or anything, but if this is the future site for ernie & cindy's philanthropy. They should stop with the modeling and film resume. It looks bad in my opinion.

Totally agree.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: apskip on December 12, 2011, 02:53:48 PM
“I’m So Glad Cindy Was Such a Planner” – Reality News Online’s Exclusive Interview with The Amazing Race 19’s Winners, Ernie & Cindy
by David Bloomberg -- 12/12/2011
Ernie & Cindy were perhaps the most prepared duo to ever enter The Amazing Race – and it paid off! Why do they think they did so well? How “Type A” is Cindy and did her parents really expect her to win? How did they blow through the final leg so quickly? What are their plans for the prize and their wedding, and what else is going on in their personal lives right now? Find out all of this and more right here!

Reality News Online: Hello, Ernie & Cindy, and thanks for taking the time on what I’m sure is a very busy day to talk to us here at Reality News Online! First and foremost, congratulations on winning The Amazing Race!
Ernie: Thank you!
RNO: You prepared and prepared and prepared – I think it’s safe to say that you believe it was all worth it?
Cindy: (Laughs.)
Ernie: Yes, the amount of preparation that we went into seemed like it panned out at the end. I’m so glad Cindy was such a planner and made me do everything to get on the show and then win the show.
RNO: Is Cindy like that in everyday life as well? And Ernie, does it ever drive you crazy?
Ernie: Cindy is very much our relationship planner. She’s always got something going on, she has an internal drive – I’m always just keeping up. Where I can, I balance her out. It gets into some high-stress situations and I mellow her out.
Cindy: (Laughs.) I’m not that intense 100% of the time. We’re being filmed 24 hours a day, and it’s easy to take a five-minute clip. We like to have fun and laugh and joke around. I’m definitely Type A, but not 100% of the time.
RNO: Cindy, when you said your parents expected you to win, how much were you exaggerating?
Cindy: When we told my parents, we shared the results before last night. My mom was like, “We expected it.” I know them so well, they’re proud of us but they definitely have this expectation that you’ll do your best and it will be good enough to win. We watched the show with our families and other racers last night, and when I made that comment [on the show], my dad made the comment, “Yeah that’s right.”
Ernie: They really expect a lot out of Cindy. I understand the stress that’s putting on her. It’s viewed negatively but they have high goals for their children. I was raised a little more relaxed (laughs).
RNO: You’re both on Twitter and have been active participants in discussions about the Race. How difficult has it been to keep the big secret throughout this whole time?
Cindy: It was actually more difficult to not tell people we’d been on the show until the announcement. When people asked, they understood we couldn’t tell them.
Ernie: Once people knew, we just said you’ve got to watch – just getting people excited to view the show.
Cindy: [Before the show was on,] people wondered where we’d been for a month. They were like, “Is she pregnant and hiding out?” We just had to keep our mouths shut and say, “No, we were just doing our thing.”
RNO: Cindy said that the Race is great premarital counseling – but 18 previous seasons of the show have indicated otherwise. Why do you think it worked well for you two but caused so many other couples to fight incessantly?
Cindy: (Laughs.) Ernie and I did a lot of preparing before the Race. We know how to avoid any blowups. We generally don’t fight at all. We talk things through rationally. If I need a minute, I’ll take a minute and leave the room and not say anything. He’s such a great guy, it’s easy to not fight with him.
Ernie: It speaks a lot for the relationships on the show. Marcus & Amani were great role models, and Bill & Cathi. these were great couples that didn’t fight, worked well together, and we did the same – better than I thought we would. I thought there would be more bickering. But it was kind of cool to see it come together the way it did.
RNO: Cindy discussed some of your plans for the prize money – can you more fully explain what you plan to do?
Cindy: Ernie and I were traveling around the world – we wanted to figure out if we could work together in a business and that’s an emphatic yes. As we were traveling, we know education is so key and vital to the success of a lot of people. We take for granted free public education, but in a place like Cambodia, it costs $25 per year, which many can’t afford. It’s easier for families to put them to work. We’re trying to help out the community from the grassroots [by helping kids go to school] – it’s a cycle we hope to continue. We’re trying to go with the saying, “Give a man a fish he eats for a day; teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime.” We want to be able to share that experience and the opportunity with those who want to go to school but can’t afford it.
We’re also passionate about fitness and health – we’re trying to combine that with childhood obesity and synergize it. We’re going to be developing it more on our website, ernie-cindy.com. Hopefully more people can follow it there and give thoughts on building this business.
RNO: Ernie, from what I’ve seen on Twitter, it seems this is a tough time for you in your professional life – what happened with your job?
Ernie: My company in Germany is a printing press manufacturer – it’s been on the decline. They went bankrupt and I was placed on furlough – nonpaid work. They’re going to decide if I’m going to come back early next year. It doesn’t look good. It’s time for a change to do something different to start up this organization together with Cindy.
RNO: When’s the wedding?
Cindy: In march in Chicago. We’re looking forward to it.
Ernie: Yeah! It’s probably the one thing we’re going to give ourselves from this Race. It will be a great wedding we can share with everybody.
Cindy: We’re excited to have some Amazing Racers there to be part of our big day.
RNO: Looking at the last leg, how quickly did you go through the final map challenge, and were you worried when you saw you wouldn’t be able to use notes?
Cindy: I forgot about the not using notes! I think it ended up taking 10 to 15 minutes. Throughout the course of our flying around, we would use the magazine on the plane and draw our routes and Ernie would be like, “What are you doing?” I was like, “It might be important.” I noticed in the clue they had put a picture of the country in the clue, which I’d never seen before.
Ernie: Ironically enough, I’m with a map we just drew [on the flight to Atlanta] with a red line. It was basically in the bag for Cindy when she went up there.
Cindy: I was like, thankfully it’s not “remember every host,” but something we could actually prepare for while on the Race and still be ready.
RNO: How long did you circle with the GPS annoyingly saying, “Recalculating”?
Cindy: (Laughs) It must’ve been maybe two minutes – but that’s very suspenseful on a TV show when they show the whole thing. We found it pretty quickly.
RNO: How far ahead of Jeremy & Sandy did you finish?
Cindy: We believe we were about an hour and a half ahead and Marcus & Amani came about an hour later. We were really lucky our taxi driver knew the freeway was crowded so he took the back roads I think Jeremy & Sandy said they sat in traffic for a solid hour.
RNO: Who did you call to find out what Margaret Mitchell’s house was called?
Ernie: Before we were in Atlanta, we found a little boy in panama and we asked him to use his computer. We got the phone number for the Atlanta tourism board. The woman on the line was very helpful and knew what the Dump was. That combined with texting Google for info – it was a cinch.
Cindy: We also met a lady on the plane who lived in Atlanta her whole life and we asked what are the historical sites. She was like, “You should see the Margarent Mitchell House and Turner Field. As soon as the woman said that, we were like bingo, it’s like the Race to pick something important in history.
RNO: I’m being told we’re unfortunately out of time – is there anything else you’d like to tell our readers and your fans about your time on the Race?
Cindy: We just appreciate everyone watching and hope they enjoyed the season as much as we did!
RNO: Thanks and congratulations once again! See you on Twitter!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Katarzyna on December 12, 2011, 03:43:01 PM
Wait, what?! Cindy is modeling! And was acting?
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Squall16 on December 12, 2011, 04:06:43 PM
Wait, what?! Cindy is modeling! And was acting?

She's in a lot of great films, mostly as principals or innocent bystander

http://ernie-cindy.com/cindybio/cresume
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: enneiteml on December 12, 2011, 04:09:13 PM
Some people actually DON'T like Ernie and Cindy?  :cmas5

They were one of the best teams this season: competitive, lovable, funny, and amusing! I was very happy when they finished first  :cmas22

Congratulations!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Aussie on December 12, 2011, 04:10:06 PM
OMG, she is the lady from the McDonalds ad which someone posted awhile ago!

Quote
Commercial

McDonalds ”Egg McMuffin” and “Caesar Salad“ (SAG) Principle,  Tribal DDB
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Belle Book on December 12, 2011, 05:46:33 PM
Some people actually DON'T like Ernie and Cindy?  :cmas5

They were one of the best teams this season: competitive, lovable, funny, and amusing! I was very happy when they finished first  :cmas22

Congratulations!

A lot of people liked Bill & Cathi and I suspect they hated Ernie & Cindy for U-Turning them.  I didn't, but I might be in the minority.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on December 12, 2011, 05:50:32 PM
Another thing I forgot to mention was their odd comment regarding "B and C students", inferring that they were above their two competitors. I thought it was odd that the editors left that line in the airing.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: enneiteml on December 12, 2011, 06:05:55 PM
Another thing I forgot to mention was their odd comment regarding "B and C students", inferring that they were above their two competitors. I thought it was odd that the editors left that line in the airing.

... It was funny ...
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: connayyy on December 12, 2011, 07:59:07 PM
I wanted Amani & Marcus to win, but I still liked Ernie & Cindy a lot so I'm happy.  :cmaslol

As for some of the "arrogant" things that they've said -- I do agree that pride is probably one of Cindy's flaws. But at the same time I think some of her comments were taken a little too seriously. The "A-student" thing seems to have been a bit of a joke among everyone, Amani & Marcus said something in an interview teasing Ernie & Cindy about how they wouldn't have caught up to them because they're only "B students."

Anyway, congrats to them!  :cmas19 They did play the game well and deserved the win.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 12, 2011, 09:13:33 PM
Another thing I forgot to mention was their odd comment regarding "B and C students", inferring that they were above their two competitors. I thought it was odd that the editors left that line in the airing.

Quote
Some fans are finding your comment comparing Jeremy and Sandy, and Marcus and Amani to C students off-putting. Do you want to elaborate on that?
Ernie: What was the exact comment? We were partying a little too hard last night. [Laughs]

You said if you lost to them, it would've been like losing to C students because you guys are A+ students.
Cindy: We said that?! Oh my God! How awful! That's so terrible. I can't believe we said that!

You have no recollection of that? Ernie, you also said it would've been like losing to your brother.
Ernie: [Laughs] Oh my God! Oh, man. We don't remember that. I mean, it's not meant to be negative in any way. It was just that it seemed like Jeremy and Sandy were squeaking by here and there. They won the Panama leg, which was awesome for them, and Marcus and Amani were the comeback kids. I think it was like, being ahead of the pack, you would feel pretty much ashamed if you lost to someone who came all the way from the back and beat you.


http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Winners-Ernie-Cindy-1040747.aspx (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Winners-Ernie-Cindy-1040747.aspx)
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on December 12, 2011, 09:18:17 PM
Another thing I forgot to mention was their odd comment regarding "B and C students", inferring that they were above their two competitors. I thought it was odd that the editors left that line in the airing.

Quote
Some fans are finding your comment comparing Jeremy and Sandy, and Marcus and Amani to C students off-putting. Do you want to elaborate on that?
Ernie: What was the exact comment? We were partying a little too hard last night. [Laughs]

You said if you lost to them, it would've been like losing to C students because you guys are A+ students.
Cindy: We said that?! Oh my God! How awful! That's so terrible. I can't believe we said that!

You have no recollection of that? Ernie, you also said it would've been like losing to your brother.
Ernie: [Laughs] Oh my God! Oh, man. We don't remember that. I mean, it's not meant to be negative in any way. It was just that it seemed like Jeremy and Sandy were squeaking by here and there. They won the Panama leg, which was awesome for them, and Marcus and Amani were the comeback kids. I think it was like, being ahead of the pack, you would feel pretty much ashamed if you lost to someone who came all the way from the back and beat you.


http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Winners-Ernie-Cindy-1040747.aspx (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Winners-Ernie-Cindy-1040747.aspx)

There you go, they didn't mean it so stop harping on it. :cmaslol

If you need to find a reason to dislike them.. don't. Just dislike them, don't find excuses for yourself and try to hate them for winning. Because the fact is they did win and they won it fair and square. :cmas16
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 12, 2011, 09:30:59 PM
Really good interview!
Exclusive: Ernie Halvorsen and Cindy Chiang talk 'The Amazing Race'

 
By Elizabeth Kwiatkowski, 12/12/2011


On Monday, Ernie and Cindy talked to Reality TV World about their The Amazing Race experience.

Reality TV World: How does it feel to be the winners of The Amazing Race's nineteenth season?

Cindy Chiang: (Laughs)

Ernie Halvorsen: We're relieved. The cat's out of the bag. We can finally tell everybody that we know that we are officially the champions, because there's so many people that you know that think that you are because everyone's your friend and they think, "Oh, we know you're competitive and we know Cindy is kind of a (laughs) a Type A kind of competitive woman herself." And so, it was just relieving.

Cindy Chiang: It was just exciting because I've loved the show for so many years and to actually be able to get on the Race and then join the ranks of some of our favorite teams like [Victor Jih and Tammy Jih] and [Meghan Rickey and Cheyne Whitney] and [Dan Pious and Jordan Pious], it's just fun.

Reality TV World: When you two approached the finish line and saw everyone cheering you on, Cindy, you looked convinced that you had won before The Amazing Race host Phil Keoghan even had a chance to tell you. But Ernie, you appeared to be unsure and needed confirmation that you had won before getting really excited. Would you say that's accurate? What was going through both of your minds when running to the Pit Stop mat?

Ernie Halvorsen: I would say it's very accurate simply because we had that time in Yogyakarta where we had to go back to the orphanage because we didn't pay all our money. And I feel like ever since that leg, we've always been very cautious about whether we'd have to go back and do something.

And so, we came -- I knew we were in first. I just didn't know if Phil was going to give us the old, "However..." statement at the final Pit Stop. I was a little cautious because I didn't know if we had missed anything, and you never really know until he says it.

Reality TV World: How far ahead of Jeremy and Sandy do you think you finished? How about Amani and Marcus?

Cindy Chiang: I think we were approximately an hour-and-a-half ahead of Jeremy and Sandy and Marcus and Amani came another hour later. It was probably an estimate.

Reality TV World: During the cab ride to the Margaret Mitchell house, Ernie was shown saying that losing to "the boys" would be one thing but it would be different to lose to Jeremy and Sandy or Marcus and Amani. Based on that, clearly you considered Andy Finch and Tommy Czeschin to be the biggest threat. Do you think you still would have won if they hadn't been eliminated right before the final leg?

Ernie Halvorsen: I think Andy and Tommy are great competitors, great guys. They get kind of an edit where sometimes people don't like the religious aspect of them, but I really love Andy and Tommy to death. And to compete with them was awesome.

It feels like if we lost, it would have been terrible with Andy and Tommy because they're such good guys, and even Marcus and Amani and Sandy and Jeremy -- everyone who races us, they're all good people -- and I would have been excited for any of them to win. It would have been a little bit easier if Andy and Tommy -- I should say, if Andy and Tommy -- would it be easier? No, it wouldn't be easier.

Reality TV World: Cindy, you were shown saying last night that losing The Amazing Race would be like losing to "C" students when you guys were the "A+" students. Could you talk a little bit about what you meant by that? It seemed like you didn't really have a very high opinion of Jeremy and Sandy or Marcus and Amani. 

Cindy Chiang: We actually really enjoyed the other teams. We were watching with everybody last night and we were all just kind of joking around and laughing, so we actually missed that comment. I don't remember...

Ernie Halvorsen: It had more to do with the fact that we were running in the front of the pack so often and they were kind of coming in towards the end of the leg, squeaking by.

It was just kind of the feeling where if you're ahead of everybody, and then the people in the back kind of overtake you, then it's that much more upsetting -- that much more devastating. So, we just wanted to make sure that we stayed in the lead.

Reality TV World: Last night's episode showed Jeremy and Sandy saying you two and Amani and Marcus had an advantage in the final leg because all of you were familiar with Atlanta, GA, especially Amani and Marcus since they currently live there. So what is your experience in Atlanta? How much time have you spent there? 

Cindy Chiang: Only as visitors. I've been there a couple times for work. I used to do research down in Atlanta because it's a good mixed city, but other than that, I only knew the Buckhead area. So, we didn't know the broader area at all.

Reality TV World: So would you argue the fact then that you didn't really have an advantage, because the only time it seemed like you might have had a grip on where you were was when Jeremy and Sandy got so confused over the dump location.

Cindy Chiang: We actually called the tourism board, so in the airport in Panama, we found a gentleman with a computer and we looked up a bunch of phone numbers. So, we called the Atlanta Tourism Board and that's how we knew where the Margaret Mitchell home was.

We had no idea -- we read the clue and we were like, "The dump? That's odd." So luckily we had written down a couple key phone numbers in order to get the information that we needed.

Reality TV World: Cindy, you were shown saying that the Race was the "ultimate premarital counseling" and that you both learned so much about each other. Could you give me some specifics on what you guys did learn?

Cindy Chiang: Sure! (Laughs) This was probably a lot of preparation up to the actual running of the Race, but we learned that Ernie and I work together pretty well. He balances me out. I'm clearly a little bit more high strung and Type A, and his laid back characteristics just really helped balance each other.

We also learned that we have a tough time communicating sometimes where I might say something and Ernie will either just completely block it because he didn't hear it or he'll completely block it because he didn't want to hear it. So, we worked a little bit on our communication.

Ernie Halvorsen: It's clear that the dysfunction is on my end. (Laughs)

Reality TV World: Some viewers have been critical that Cindy, you seemed to do a lot of whining during the season. What's your response to that? Do you feel you just responded naturally to the Race's circumstances because it was kind of an emotional and stressful?

Cindy Chiang: Yeah, I have read some of those comments. You know, it's challenging. I guess the only thing is -- I mean, yeah.

I ran the Race as hard as I could, the best that I could and I learned a lot about what I appear to be and how people view me, and the only thing I can do is be better for the future and try to really be a better person. I didn't try to whine. I wasn't intending to come off that way, but I can definitely see how a viewer would view me that way.

Ernie Halvorsen: Was there a specific one that you were thinking about?

Reality TV World: No, there were just some general comments made about it and I wanted to give Cindy the opportunity to comment on them.

Cindy Chiang: Yeah, you know, it's really tough to read those criticisms, because I wasn't intending at all to be whiney or complaining. I just -- I understand where they're coming from and I'm trying to be better about it. So, I guess that's the best I can do.

Reality TV World: During last night's flight simulator task, it showed you guys failing your first attempt at landing the aircraft. Did it really only take two tries until you got it right or did it take more times than that?

Ernie Halvorsen: Oh, no. Actually, it only took us two times. The first time, we stalled out the plane because we weren't going fast enough and the second time, we landed right on end.

Reality TV World: It really looked like the whole season boiled down to Jeremy and Sandy wasting time by traveling to the wrong dump. Did you have any idea you were in first place when you got to the Margaret Mitchell house or did you think Jeremy and Sandy had already come and gone since they had finished the aircraft task before you? 

Ernie Halvorsen: When we were at the Margaret Mitchell house, we didn't see another taxi cab outside, so we knew that they weren't there of course. And then when I went inside and started typing, no one was around. It didn't look like anybody had used any of the equipment, so I kind of had a feeling that maybe we were in the lead at that point.

But then when we got to the map challenge, it was evident that we were in first place there because it takes awhile to actually get rigged up and actually do the map and then demount, and they weren't even there. So, I knew that there was no way they could have possibly completed that before we ever showed up to the map challenge.

Reality TV World: In past The Amazing Race seasons, most teams normally prepared for a task in the finale that would test their knowledge and memory of the prior legs. How much studying had you two done before that final leg or throughout the Race in general? The map challenge seemed to come extremely easily for you, Cindy. 

Cindy Chiang: Yeah, actually every flight that we took, you know those in-flight magazines? They have a map of the world and just a flight route. We would take the magazine every time and we would draw out our path, and so over the course of the 23 days that we were racing, we had drawn that out probably 10 or 15 times. So, as soon as we got to that map, I was like, "Yes! We can do this!"

Ernie Halvorsen: I literally had the map in my back pocket with the red coming from every city just like she drew it up there. It was pretty ironic.

Reality TV World:  How long do you think it took you to complete the map task overall?

Cindy Chiang: Good question. What do you think?

Ernie Halvorsen: Well, you had to get a setup time. I think the setup time was like 15 minutes or something like that, and the demounting time was another 15 minutes, and there was a safety briefing and all that, so as far as the basic map challenge part, I think it took like 10 minutes.

Reality TV World: The clues during this final leg seemed to be very obscure. The dump clue and the Hank Aaron clue were both very vague and it seemed like they could have been easily misinterpreted or researched incorrectly. What are your thoughts about that? Do you think it could have been simple to research the wrong locations based on the information given in your clues?

Cindy Chiang: Yeah, absolutely. I think you could definitely be misled. There was a furniture store called "The Dump" that Sandy and Jeremy ended up going to and you could easily think, "Oh, well it's a furniture store. That makes sense" because you're talking about a home. It is obscure, so yeah. They could easily misinterpret it.

Ernie Halvorsen: The only thing that we knew was that it said, "a residence formerly known..." so we knew we were probably looking for a house, and then the Race likes to go to culturally-specific areas in whatever cities we're in, so I didn't think it would actually be like a Home Depot-type store. We were probably going into downtown Atlanta some way.

Cindy Chiang: We also met a lady on the plane that lived in Atlanta her entire life and so, we basically talked to her about all the historical locations, all the famous locations, anything we should see if we were tourists there, and she literally listed off both Turner Field and the Margaret Mitchell home. She said, "If you could see anything in Atlanta, you should see these places."

Ernie Halvorsen: And so when we heard the dump might be Margaret Mitchell's home, we were like, "That's gotta be it!" Because we were told we totally have to go there by this woman on the airline.

Reality TV World: Wow that's lucky! So Cindy, when you lost your ticket on the train, what was going through your mind when you were on that train? What do you think would have happened if everyone's tickets were actually checked?

Ernie Halvorsen: So we felt actually pretty confident getting on that train ride, because we actually did have our registration number from our tickets. We just didn't have the physical tickets.

So, if they came around and asked us for our ticket, we were hoping that we could just tell the conductor that, "Hey, here's our registration number. Could you do something for us? Could you find our tickets somehow?"

Because I was speaking in German to the woman a little bit on the first train and I asked her for her opinion, and she said, "Well, you could get on the train and you could actually try it. It's all in the conductor's opinion if he wants to keep you on or not."

So, that gave us a little bit of confidence to actually sit on that train without them thinking that we were stowaways or something.

Reality TV World: Earlier this season, you guys chose to U-Turn Bill Alden and Cathi Alden, and then they ended up U-Turning Laurence Sunderland and Zac Sunderland as a result. For the most part, Racers on the show rarely U-Turn other teams just to win a leg when they were already in first place. Why did you guys ultimately decide to do that and looking back, would you still back that decision?

Ernie Halvorsen: Yes, definitely. We had just come from the Malawi leg where we were devastated by not coming in first after using our Express Pass and Andy and Tommy overtook us on the beach. I mean, we were just heartbroken and our morale was down. I think after that leg, I don't even know how much spirit we had in the Race anymore. We were just like torn.

I noticed when we got to Copenhagen and we started getting into the lead a little bit more, we kept telling ourselves, "We gotta keep this lead. We gotta keep this lead." And so then it came to the point where whoever was behind us was going to get U-Turned just so we could keep that lead and then hopefully take that lead into the next leg.

It ended up that we actually did it quite well because we actually got an hour or so lead the next day. So, I mean, that's a huge lead that would only help us to continue on in the Race. When you just think about winning a leg compared to the whole Race, you always want a huge gap.

Any time you can develop a huge gap and look for maps a little bit easier and calm and you can look for directions a little bit without the stress of the other teams coming right down on your back, it just makes the Race that much easier.

Cindy Chiang: We tried to use every leg of the Race as a learning experience and tried to take those lessons that we learned into the next Race. It never had anything to do with Bill and Cathi. They're really nice people. It literally was, "We're in the exact same situation as we were yesterday, and we made the wrong decision, so today we're going to make a different decision."

Reality TV World: Why did you specifically choose to U-Turn Bill and Cathi when it seemed like most of the teams didn't even consider them a threat? Was it the type of situation where they were the only team you knew of that was behind you or what was the reasoning for why you didn't pick another team instead?

Cindy Chiang: Bill and Cathi were literally two minutes behind us and so we thought at that point that it was the exact same situation as the day before.

Ernie Halvorsen: It came down to positioning. We knew we were in the lead and we knew Bill and Cathi were in second at that point, and they were turning out butter just as fast as we were. My racecar driving skills were terrible. I could barely reverse out of the parking lot.

Bill was like a pro at that thing, so I knew it came down to us getting to our cars at the same time because we were just running to it. I think they would have gotten first definitely, because we were that close.

But it had nothing to really do with Bill and Cathi. It had more to do with just wanting to maintain a secured lead, and then of course we just didn't do anything to Andy and Tommy, because U-Turning someone like Andy and Tommy -- who were a bigger threat -- would have just been pointless.

Marcus and Amani were basically a half-day behind -- at that point, we thought that they were like almost a half-day behind us. So if we U-Turned Andy and Tommy, what's that going to do? It's just going to make these guys more upset. It's not actually going to kick these guys out of the Race in any way.

Cindy Chiang: I feel like Bill and Cathi had the chance to use the second U-Turn, so we knew for sure that we weren't marking them for elimination -- that they could literally get back in the game.

Reality TV World: After Phil told you guys you had won the Race, Ernie, you said your family would be in disbelief, while Cindy, you said your parents would probably have expected you to win. Cindy, it seemed like it was an ongoing storyline this season that you wanted your parents to accept you and Ernie as a team, as if you really hoped to receive their approval. What was their reaction when they had discovered you guys won and has the Race changed their outlook on your relationship at all?

Ernie Halvorsen: It was exactly how we described it on TV. (Laughs)

Cindy Chiang: (Laughs) It was exactly how we described it! My parents literally go, "Oh, well we expected that." And Ernie's mom...

Ernie Halvorsen: She literally fainted. She's like a June Cleaver type of woman and she just was in hysteria when we told her about the victory.

Reality TV World: What do you guys plan on doing with your prize money and you guys are obviously engaged, so when do you see a wedding happening? Have you set a date yet?

Cindy Chiang: Yeah, we're getting married in March in Chicago. So that's kind of next on our list. But then, we're actually working on starting a business and we're hoping to raise awareness and help fight childhood obesity in the U.S. and then use the proceeds from the company to support education and developing markets.

Ernie Halvorsen: We'll do this through events that we'll talk more about once we get things more organized, but right now, it's kind of in its infancy. So, we actually have a website -- ernie-cindy.com -- that we're hoping to have people come to so they can follow us, because the process is just starting up.

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Post by: Jobby on December 12, 2011, 09:41:33 PM
Thanks peachies!

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Cindy Chiang: We actually called the tourism board, so in the airport in Panama, we found a gentleman with a computer and we looked up a bunch of phone numbers. So, we called the Atlanta Tourism Board and that's how we knew where the Margaret Mitchell home was.
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Post by: Jobby on December 12, 2011, 10:04:27 PM
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Reminds me of Cindy when I saw this. :cmas50
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Post by: Aussie on December 12, 2011, 10:39:39 PM
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Reminds me of Cindy when I saw this. :cmas50

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Post by: slayton on December 12, 2011, 10:50:05 PM
'Amazing Race' Ernie & Cindy Q&A: 'We did everything right this leg' (http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/s66/the-amazing-race/interviews/a355575/amazing-race-ernie--cindy-qa-we-did-everything-right-this-leg.html)
Published Monday, Dec 12 2011, 4:57pm EST | By Lara Martin |

After four continents, ten countries, twenty cities and more than 35,000 miles, engaged couple Ernie Halvorsen and Cindy Chiang were named the winners of The Amazing Race, scooping the $1 million prize at the finish line in Atlanta, Georgia over second-placed Jeremy and Sandy and third-placed Marcus and Amani.

Digital Spy spoke with Ernie and Cindy today about that final leg, their race highlights, and what the future holds:

What has life been like since it was revealed you had won?

Ernie: "A whirlwind!"
Cindy: "It's been great. We actually watched the show with the other racers and all of our families. It's been really fun to share this experience with everyone we ran the race with."

And it must be a relief not having to keep it a secret anymore!

Cindy: "It is! No more secrets! My co-workers tell me I've become a really good poker face."

Ernie, you said your parents would probably "pass out in disbelief" at learning you'd won. Is that what happened?!

Ernie: "That was definitely the case! My mom was in a frenzy when I told her we'd won. Same with my father. How it was described on TV was pretty much how it went down."

It's almost fitting you guys won because you won the very first leg of the race...

Ernie: "Yeah, it was nice to win the first leg for the tool of the Express Pass to use later on, and then get a little trip to Fiji which we'll hopefully use for honeymoon. To wrap it up with the main victory was outstanding."

It seemed you had a comfortable lead throughout the final leg. How were you feeling heading to the finish line?

Cindy: "We had a pretty good feeling we'd left in first because by the time we'd gotten to the map challenge it didn't look like anyone else had got to the map yet, and by the time we left we still hadn't seen any of the other teams. We were hoping as long as we didn't get lost that we'd get to the pitstop quickly. We did get a little bit lost but it was only for a short amount of time."

When the cab driver missed his turning was that cause for concern or were you feeling pretty confident at that stage?

Ernie: "It was probably the only leg of the race where we did everything right! The taxi driver actually had the GPS unit and it was recalculating like it showed on TV but I don't think it gave us enough sense of worry that we thought we wouldn't find the place. I think my face on TV was more concerned because I didn't want Phil to give me a 'however' at the final pitstop. You never know in this game!"

Were you ever worried you'd get penalized for losing your train tickets on the way to Brussels?

Ernie: "We actually didn't have too much of a worry about that. The tickets were provided by the production so we had the tickets. Physically we didn't have them, but we had the reservation numbers. When I talked to the conductor on the first train she informed me it was in the conductor's opinion on the next train if they want to allow us on. We felt a little bit more comfortable that we could persuade the guy on the second train to let us ride it through because we were with all these other teams that are obviously in our pack. But it never came up. It was a non-issue and we were just glad we didn't get penalized."

You had good luck with people being really helpful in this leg from the cab driver lending his phone to the receptionist at the hotel. How important was that help?

Ernie: "When you're good to people, people tend to do nice things for you too. We tried to stay positive through all of our cabbies and everyone we came in contact with. If you go in there and are pushy or start being negative and harassing then no-one wants to do anything for you, so I wouldn't say it was so much luck as it was being good people and being nice to others. People returned the favor."
Cindy: "They didn't show a lot of the travel in cabs but we had a strategy where we would cheer and high five the cab drivers to make them feel they are part of the race too, part of the team. And they were. They are what can make or break your game."
Ernie: "If they are feeling good then we are feeling good and we're moving forward."

As shown when your cab driver helped you find the pitstop in Panama...

Cindy: "Right, we didn't know what was going on. We went to the Balboa Statue and saw Andy and Tommy there and we're like, 'Shoot, this is not it. We need to go back to the dancers'. The driver was like, 'No, I know where it is'."
Ernie: "We're like, 'How do you know where it is?!'"
Cindy: "We had actually passed Panama Viejo earlier in the day and Ernie had said, 'I bet that's where our pitstop is...'"
Ernie: "Because it was so historic - a relic - and you just figured it would be a great spot for a pitstop."
Cindy: "So as soon as he said Panama Viejo we're like, 'Oh, that makes sense!' Maybe one of his friends saw production setting up or something."
Ernie: "We had no idea how he knew that."
Cindy: "We lucked out and he got a big tip!"

There was a friendly rivalry between you guys and the snowboarders. Were you disappointed not to be racing against them in the finale?

Ernie: "I think we were disappointed they got eliminated just for the simple fact they are good people and nice guys and great competitors."
Cindy: "It took the pressure off a little bit because Andy and Tommy are so competitive and great athletes. If it came down to a foot race there was no way I would beat Olympians on a foot race! It was a little relieving although we love them and they are great people."

Where did the idea for launching a foundation with your winnings come from?]

Cindy: "We had a different idea going into the race, but as we were racing around and had the chance to explore, our idea started to evolve. When we got back from filming we went to Haiti for a weekend and spent time visiting with a bunch of foundations and NGOs. It was our visit to an orphanage that really inspired us to help with the education of children, because we had gone with a mission group to this orphanage. They said the most challenging thing was covering school fees for primary school. As soon as a child is out of primary school they are not going back to school so we thought for sure we wanted to be able to support education for primary school children."

Ernie: "And the cost is so marginal compared to the States. If we can do a little something to offset these costs and provide tuition or scholarships for children that are actually excited and looking forward to going to school to better themselves or their local economies then we want to provide that."

Will you treat yourselves to anything as well?

Ernie: "A wedding! We actually don't treat ourselves too much. It feels better to give back most of the time. I can give Cindy a million diamond rings but I don't think it will make either one of us feel any better than if we put somebody into school."

You said the race was great pre-marital counseling. What did you learn about each other through the experience?

Ernie: "I didn't know Cindy was so funny until I watched the race!"
Cindy: "It's the editing! No, I'm kidding! We learned a lot about how to communicate with each other and work together. I think it was a magnified version of who we are that you saw. Ernie always balances me out. If I'm stressed out he calms me down, if he needs to get revved up a little bit I know exactly how to pump him up."
Ernie: "It's a great team we have here and I'm so glad Cindy was able to convince me to do this."

Aside from winning what was your highlight?

Ernie: "The bodybuilding challenge!"
Cindy: "I think meeting all of the people and the other teams and production. There are so many people that go into making this race happen."
Ernie: "I think the networks you build and friendships you make are lifelong. You can't put a price on things like that and especially seeing the things we saw. How many other people get to travel around the world like that? It's pretty incredible that we got lucky enough to have the chance to do that."

So we'll be seeing some of the former racers at your wedding?

Cindy: "They are all invited and I think most of them plan on coming."
Ernie: "And Justin is speaking so he better show up!"

What is in the immediate future for you?

Ernie: "My company went bankrupt last week so I'm currently out of work, so I'll be working hard on getting this wedding together and our business idea while Cindy is continuing with her corporate life. As soon as the wedding is done we'll be in full business mode trying to get our new organization started. Our ultimate goal is to get that up and running and be the best organization possible."

The Amazing Race airs on CBS
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: David on December 13, 2011, 09:08:26 AM
Yes. I've got a serious problem. Watching the race makes me happy but seeing this team win in the last episode really gets on my nerves. Rooting for TAR20 teams already, :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 13, 2011, 12:49:43 PM
On the Kelly Show:
 
 
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Post by: georgiapeach on December 13, 2011, 02:55:02 PM
The Amazing Race

Amazing Race Winners Ernie & Cindy: We Feel Elated and Relieved
By Dahvi Shira

Monday December 12, 2011 06:00 PM EST

 
Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang

 Engaged duo Ernie Halvorsen and Cindy Chiang covered four continents, 20 cities and nearly 40,000 miles in their quest to win the latest season of The Amazing Race.

Putting their wedding plans aside to complete the competition, project manager Halvorsen, 29 and his brand manager fiancée Cindy Chiang, 30, walked away with $1 million, a group of new friends and an even stronger bond.

PEOPLE caught up with the happy couple, who dished about their win and what's next for them.

How are you feeling right now? What's going through your mind?
Ernie: We just feel elated and relieved. We're just looking forward. We're very optimistic and hopeful for what we can do now that we've won. ... If we could do the whole thing over again without being paid, of course we'd do it.

Cindy: We're excited to have shared this moment with our family and our friends. The experience was invaluable. Just getting to see all these places – literally, there are so few people in the world who got to experience what we got to experience.

What were your lowest moments during the competition?
Ernie: One of the lowest points was definitely in Malawi when Andy and Tommy had beat us to the finish line. We were just so devastated. We thought we'd done everything in our power to beat everyone at the race. And it just never panned out for us. We didn't use our express pass. We didn't use U-turns.

Cindy: The wind was just out of our sails that day. I had, unfortunately, gotten hurt during the roadblock cask, and it was really difficult to run. I was trying to do my best and keep spirits high, but it was a tough day for us.

By the end of the competition, which couple were you closest to?
Cindy: We're definitely closest to Justin and Jennifer. We actually just asked Justin to be part of our wedding. We keep in touch with every single person from the cast. We were watching with them last night. There's a game to be played, but then there's time for fun and enjoyment.

What was your favorite place visited?


Cindy: I loved Taiwan because my parents grew up there. My brother was living there when we actually toured through the town. But I'd never seen it. It was just nice to experience where my parents grew up and where their families were for many years.

Ernie: Every country had good people and nice people who helped us along the way, but for me, I think the people in Copenhagen stood out more than the others. They were very fluent in English, which we were very thankful for.

What was your strangest or most difficult task?
Ernie: Cindy was probably very upset to do the bodybuilding challenge.

Cindy: I didn't want to expose myself like that. All the women were in the dressing room like, "Oh my goodness, I can't believe we're about to do this."

Ernie: On the flipside, I was more than excited to do this. I actually got into my outfit, and couldn't figure out what door I had to go into. I was running around for 15 minutes in my skivvies trying to figure out where I was supposed to put this tanning lotion.

And what are you planning to do with the $1 million prize? Will it go toward the wedding?
Cindy: Ernie and I are actually planning to use the winnings to start a business. We really want to be able to help provide education for children in developing markets. We were running around on the race, and we saw all these kids on the street who weren't in school. We came back and we researched and learned that education is not free everywhere. Even public education costs some kind of fee per year. Education is kind of the thing that alleviates poverty.


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Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: slayton on December 13, 2011, 08:40:40 PM
The Amazing Race Winners Talk Cabbie Controversy and What They Plan to Do With All That Money (http://www.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/amazing_race_winners_talk_cabbie/280072)

Mon., Dec. 12, 2011 2:40 PM PST by Drusilla Moorhouse

The Amazing Race winners Ernie Halvorsen and fiancée Cindy Chiang aren't resting on their laurels.

In addition to planning for their March wedding, the determined couple are establishing a charity—funded by their million-dollar prize—to provide education to impoverished children throughout the world.

Read on to hear what the first-place finishers told us today about their amazing race, Cindy's "negative" edit and that cab-driver controversy…

Many viewers of the Emmy magnet's 19th season were upset that frontrunners Andy and Tommy were booted after their competitors' taxi drivers worked together to get them to the finalist-determining pit stop.

"It just as easily could've been to the wrong place—people don't think about that," Cindy told us about their cabbie's confidence that he was driving them to the correct destination. "We put our life in that gentleman's hands," Ernie added. "In reality he could've taken us to the Panama Canal"—the snowboarders' disastrous detour—"too… Communication was pretty tough." 

Criticized by many fans for her aggressive perfectionism, Cindy admits, "There's a lot of things I wish we had done differently…It's tough to read a lot of the blogs and the reviews because I don't intend to be a bad or negative person or whiny in any way. I knew they cast us because I was so type A and I knew [the editors] would portray it that way, [but] I wish I didn't give [them so much] ammo—you kind of leave it to the editors and the storyline that they want to create for you. The only I can do is learn from this experience and be a better person and be more conscious of the way I may sound to [others]."

Ernie and Cindy credit to their successful race to rigorous and "creative" preparation. In addition to language courses and physical training, they created their own challenge— scarily prescient of the teams' Legoland contest in Denmark. With the TV blasting in the background, the pair tested their teamwork in assembling a Lego toy truck: "We sat back to back and I had to build the truck based on what Cindy [who had the instructions] was trying to tell me. That was probably the most stressful training we did." Cindy agrees: "We really had to work on our communication skills—we're glad we yelled at each other before we went on the show!"

One thing the generous teammates didn't plan beforehand was their idea to establish a charitable foundation. "But when we were traveling around we saw there is such a huge need for education globally," said Cindy. "Here in the U.S. we often take for granted that public school is actually free." Ernie pointed out that many children around the world "actually want to go to school, but they just can't fund it." The couple plan to apply their "passion for doing things like the race… to provide tuition and subsidize education globally."

Ironically, the million-dollar winners have just fallen victim to the economic crisis. "My company just went bankrupt last week, so I'm unemployed at the moment," Ernie, now the default wedding planner, revealed. After their nuptials, he said, "Hopefully we can get back on our feet again and get this business started and helping others out."
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: slayton on December 13, 2011, 09:53:06 PM
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TV_THE_AMAZING_RACE
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But interviewed after the broadcast, the winners said their most unnerving moment was the basic task of getting a cab at Atlanta's airport.

"Nobody wanted to take us," Ernie said. "That was the most stressful thing as we saw the other teams departing."

Finally a driver volunteered, "and we give him all the rest of our money as a tip," said Cindy.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 13, 2011, 10:02:09 PM
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TV_THE_AMAZING_RACE
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But interviewed after the broadcast, the winners said their most unnerving moment was the basic task of getting a cab at Atlanta's airport.

"Nobody wanted to take us," Ernie said. "That was the most stressful thing as we saw the other teams departing."

Finally a driver volunteered, "and we give him all the rest of our money as a tip," said Cindy.

In ATlanta, each airport cab can wait in line a LONG time...usually 3-7 HOURS for a fare. So NO cab  is going to want to take a 3 minute fare when they could get a fare to dpwntown or further. I think the key would have been to say we need you for all day!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on December 14, 2011, 09:37:37 AM
The finale usually involves cabbies right? That could be a tip for all other teams in future... but Kaylani and Lisa were eliminated for keeping the cab. :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on December 14, 2011, 09:48:29 AM
The finale usually involves cabbies right?

Unfortunately. :'( It's what screwed Gallory over :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

They should do what I did in the finale of my first fantasy Race: hire drivers who know where to go beforehand if the teams tell them the correct thing. Surely WRP can afford to pay three safe drivers something for the day. I understand that they can't let million-dollar-pursuing-Racers loose on the roads, so how about hiring trustworthy drivers for the day? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on December 14, 2011, 11:46:19 AM
The finale usually involves cabbies right?

Unfortunately. :'( It's what screwed Gallory over :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

They should do what I did in the finale of my first fantasy Race: hire drivers who know where to go beforehand if the teams tell them the correct thing. Surely WRP can afford to pay three safe drivers something for the day. I understand that they can't let million-dollar-pursuing-Racers loose on the roads, so how about hiring trustworthy drivers for the day? :duno:

That, would be completely boring.. wouldn't it? They can definitely afford to pay three drivers to bring the teams around but what's the point? If you've had cabbies assigned on the last leg, you mind as well have cabbies for all the teams throughout the race? :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on December 14, 2011, 11:47:44 AM
I just think the finale is too important to come down to such random factors. ;D
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: apskip on December 14, 2011, 02:08:06 PM
The finale usually involves cabbies right?

Unfortunately. :'( It's what screwed Gallory over :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

They should do what I did in the finale of my first fantasy Race: hire drivers who know where to go beforehand if the teams tell them the correct thing. Surely WRP can afford to pay three safe drivers something for the day. I understand that they can't let million-dollar-pursuing-Racers loose on the roads, so how about hiring trustworthy drivers for the day? :duno:

That, would be completely boring.. wouldn't it? They can definitely afford to pay three drivers to bring the teams around but what's the point? If you've had cabbies assigned on the last leg, you mind as well have cabbies for all the teams throughout the race? :cmaslol
I am pointing out that this was close to the strategy employed by Colin in AR5's finale when he was desperate to catch up. He somehow made arrangements for a limo pickup at DFW airport. They just might have overcome the time deficit to Chip and Kim if not for the flat tire they got from riding illegally in the breakdown lane on the right side of the road. The difference is that Colin completely controlled this and WRP did not get in the middle of it. I found this quite exciting. However, I also find exciting the "taxi driver makes the difference" situation as with Thomas and Jill in the AR17 finale.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: topaz on December 15, 2011, 10:56:34 PM
hey I'd found this video commercial of McDonalds that featured Cindy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMZMqEWmtE
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Puppet on December 16, 2011, 12:59:15 PM
I actually liked this team alot more after the race! Hooray for winning! :cmas9
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: redskevin88 on December 16, 2011, 07:52:03 PM
I actually liked this team alot more after the race! Hooray for winning! :cmas9

I actually liked this team, until Cindy made the "A-student comment". As a barely C student myself, and an Amazing Race fan, I'm insulted.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Dom on December 16, 2011, 08:22:40 PM
I actually liked this team, until Cindy made the "A-student comment". As a barely C student myself, and an Amazing Race fan, I'm insulted.

I don't think she meant it in terms of academic ability, she was using the metaphor to represent the teams' race ability. Given the average placings of the teams, I guess she was right, but that doesn't make it okay to say!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Flamant on December 16, 2011, 10:49:52 PM
I actually liked this team, until Cindy made the "A-student comment". As a barely C student myself, and an Amazing Race fan, I'm insulted.

I don't think she meant it in terms of academic ability, she was using the metaphor to represent the teams' race ability. Given the average placings of the teams, I guess she was right, but that doesn't make it okay to say!

And they said it was horrible what they said, so...
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Dom on December 17, 2011, 01:26:22 AM
Ernie says:
Funny that on the final show they throw that A student C student comment in there without context. This is reality:
http://www.cbs.com/shows/amazing_race/video/2175720532/the-amazing-race-believing-they-are-the-best

I can't view the video though! Can anyone describe what the intended context was?
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 17, 2011, 01:33:54 AM
 :bump

Another thing I forgot to mention was their odd comment regarding "B and C students", inferring that they were above their two competitors. I thought it was odd that the editors left that line in the airing.

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Some fans are finding your comment comparing Jeremy and Sandy, and Marcus and Amani to C students off-putting. Do you want to elaborate on that?
Ernie: What was the exact comment? We were partying a little too hard last night. [Laughs]

You said if you lost to them, it would've been like losing to C students because you guys are A+ students.
Cindy: We said that?! Oh my God! How awful! That's so terrible. I can't believe we said that!

You have no recollection of that? Ernie, you also said it would've been like losing to your brother.
Ernie: [Laughs] Oh my God! Oh, man. We don't remember that. I mean, it's not meant to be negative in any way. It was just that it seemed like Jeremy and Sandy were squeaking by here and there. They won the Panama leg, which was awesome for them, and Marcus and Amani were the comeback kids. I think it was like, being ahead of the pack, you would feel pretty much ashamed if you lost to someone who came all the way from the back and beat you.


http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Winners-Ernie-Cindy-1040747.aspx (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Winners-Ernie-Cindy-1040747.aspx)
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: RealityFreakWill on December 17, 2011, 09:22:27 PM
Ernie Halvorsen 'Shoots the Puck' at the Blackhawks game

Ernie Halvorsen, winner of the Amazing Race, 'Shoots the Puck' at the Blackhawks game December 16, 2011

Link: http://www.youtube.com/v/DzwysFf_IjY&feature=share

Had trouble posting the video
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: David on December 18, 2011, 11:19:49 AM
Yes, the A-student comment just pissed me off. Who do you think you are to believe you're way better than the rest?

Ernie & Cindy hate forever now. I'm totally loving Freddy & Kendra (worst winners for me till TAR18) comparing them to this team.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 18, 2011, 11:50:57 AM
Did you read their comments on that? Yes, they said it, but in the heat of the moment and they were rather horrified that they did say it.

I am sure we have all said things that we didn't mean, had comments misunderstood or taken the wrong way.

So this, to me, is a blip on the screen compared to a whole race run smartly, with joy, and with positive interactions with the other racers, the people they met along the way, and with each other. A C student comparison is NOTHING to the racist "breeding" comments we had from Kendra.

I think they will represent TAR well, and am proud of them for that difficut final leg!

Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: David on December 18, 2011, 11:55:44 AM
I've read that, and I still keep my opinion. Sorry, it's a team I've never liked, and I'm just showing my opinion which hasn't changed over the race.

Hope TAR20 ends better for me.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Belle Book on December 18, 2011, 02:30:50 PM
Did you read their comments on that? Yes, they said it, but in the heat of the moment and they were rather horrified that they did say it.

I am sure we have all said things that we didn't mean, had comments misunderstood or taken the wrong way.

So this, to me, is a blip on the screen compared to a whole race run smartly, with joy, and with positive interactions with the other racers, the people they met along the way, and with each other. A C student comparison is NOTHING to the racist "breeding" comments we had from Kendra.

I think they will represent TAR well, and am proud of them for that difficut final leg!

I agree with you on the C student comparison being better than the racist "breeding" comments Kendra gave.  Both admittedly were dumb, but Kendra's comments were far worse.  So even if you don't like Ernie & Cindy, Dave the 2nd (and you have a right not to like them), you can't say they made a worse comment than Kendra.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: RealityFreakWill on December 18, 2011, 11:56:08 PM
What is going on with CBS?

Sophie got handed her million dollar check from Jeff on the Survivor Finale Reunion show and Ernie tweeted this:

Ernie_Halvo Ernie Halvorsen
I like how Survivor gets the check handed to them and here I sit wondering if CBS even knows where to send ours. #tar19reunion!?!?

Whatever happened to the Early Show and the blown up checks? Super Fail I say! 
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: RealityFreakWill on December 19, 2011, 12:08:19 AM
Cindy followed up on Ernie's tweet.....

MsCindyChiang Cindy Chiang
Hey @sophiegclarke can we borrow a million bucks? We promise we are good for it, whenever we get our check! lol! congrats girl! @Ernie_Halvo
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 19, 2011, 12:30:57 AM
The Early Show revamped its format sometime ago, and from what I understand, no longer felt that TAR interviews/check presentations fit its new format. I think the loss of Harry and Dave was a big factor, they were big fans. And with Phil currently "not available", that may have influenced the decision to not do the Early Show.

However, Early Show aside, one would think that CBS would make alternate arrangements. Getting the "big" check is part of the fun of winning, and could easily have been done by the local CBS affiliate. Just needs a little organization....
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: RealityFreakWill on December 19, 2011, 12:46:09 AM
The Early Show revamped its format sometime ago, and from what I understand, no longer felt that TAR interviews/check presentations fit its new format. I think the loss of Harry and Dave was a big factor, they were big fans. And with Phil currently "not available", that may have influenced the decision to not do the Early Show.

However, Early Show aside, one would think that CBS would make alternate arrangements. Getting the "big" check is part of the fun of winning, and could easily have been done by the local CBS affiliate. Just needs a little organization....

Peach, I'm just hearing that the Early Show is dying a slow death. A possible cancellation in the near future? Wouldn't surprise me at all when you look at all the daytime cancellations. 
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: David on December 19, 2011, 02:12:47 AM
Did you read their comments on that? Yes, they said it, but in the heat of the moment and they were rather horrified that they did say it.

I am sure we have all said things that we didn't mean, had comments misunderstood or taken the wrong way.

So this, to me, is a blip on the screen compared to a whole race run smartly, with joy, and with positive interactions with the other racers, the people they met along the way, and with each other. A C student comparison is NOTHING to the racist "breeding" comments we had from Kendra.

I think they will represent TAR well, and am proud of them for that difficut final leg!

I agree with you on the C student comparison being better than the racist "breeding" comments Kendra gave.  Both admittedly were dumb, but Kendra's comments were far worse.  So even if you don't like Ernie & Cindy, Dave the 2nd (and you have a right not to like them), you can't say they made a worse comment than Kendra.

Belle Book


I NEVER compared both comments. Just compared both teams, and I'm placing them far far far behind the other winners.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: theschnauzers on December 19, 2011, 10:46:27 AM
The Early Show is already dead.  CBS is in the midst of gearing up a new morning show under a very old name for CBS -- CBS This Morning, with Erika Hill (the lone carryover and who came from CNN earlier this year), Gayle King (yes, that one) and Charlie Rose. Notice who is not there (Julie).
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: apskip on December 19, 2011, 10:50:53 AM
The Early Show revamped its format sometime ago, and from what I understand, no longer felt that TAR interviews/check presentations fit its new format. I think the loss of Harry and Dave was a big factor, they were big fans. And with Phil currently "not available", that may have influenced the decision to not do the Early Show.

However, Early Show aside, one would think that CBS would make alternate arrangements. Getting the "big" check is part of the fun of winning, and could easily have been done by the local CBS affiliate. Just needs a little organization....

A "big fan" of the Amazing Race is Julie Chen.  CBS could have put a winners' check presentation on "the Talk."
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 19, 2011, 10:58:33 AM
okay...back to Cindy and Ernie? This would be interesting to continue elsewhere though...
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on December 20, 2011, 11:18:55 AM
Okay sorry.. but they presented Sophie's check during Reunion show too. Wonder where did Ernie and Cindy got their check presented to them?
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: theschnauzers on December 20, 2011, 12:33:39 PM
Joab, my understanding is that it hasn't happened. And they're waiting for the real checks to show up in the mail as well.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on December 20, 2011, 10:23:38 PM
For the check to show up in the mail? OMG. -.-

That's just so... I don't know... not publicized. The winner should be recognized and awarded their prize in a dignified way... not by mail. :cmas15
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: RealityFreakWill on December 20, 2011, 11:24:46 PM
Ernie and Cindy finally got their blown up check

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Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: RealityFreakWill on December 20, 2011, 11:45:10 PM
Ernie tweeted this pic and said I could share the pic.

Ernie and Cindy having dinner at Sunda in Chicago tonight with Victor, TAR14, Sam, TAR15 and James, BB6/7

(https://p.twimg.com/AhKfi2jCQAEPeP8.jpg)   
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on December 20, 2011, 11:48:10 PM
Whoooooo great to hear Ernie and Cindy already got their check.

I like the ONE MILLION DOLLARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! part on the check! :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on December 21, 2011, 09:38:42 AM
Did you read their comments on that? Yes, they said it, but in the heat of the moment and they were rather horrified that they did say it.

I am sure we have all said things that we didn't mean, had comments misunderstood or taken the wrong way.

So this, to me, is a blip on the screen compared to a whole race run smartly, with joy, and with positive interactions with the other racers, the people they met along the way, and with each other. A C student comparison is NOTHING to the racist "breeding" comments we had from Kendra.

I think they will represent TAR well, and am proud of them for that difficut final leg!

I agree with you on the C student comparison being better than the racist "breeding" comments Kendra gave.  Both admittedly were dumb, but Kendra's comments were far worse.  So even if you don't like Ernie & Cindy, Dave the 2nd (and you have a right not to like them), you can't say they made a worse comment than Kendra.

Belle Book


I NEVER compared both comments. Just compared both teams, and I'm placing them far far far behind the other winners.

What do Freddy and Kendra have to do with anything? We can't dislike Cindy because Kendra is worse? I think Kendra's comment was a blip on the screen too.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: David on December 21, 2011, 04:24:12 PM
^ Prophet, I'm afraid Belle Book could have wanted to quote my post, when I compared ERnie & Cindy with Freddy & Kendra. That may be the doubt?
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: RealityFreakWill on December 21, 2011, 11:25:36 PM
They still haven't gotten the real check yet, anyhow Cindy just tweeted this and she gave me the okay to share:

MsCindyChiang Cindy Chiang
Ernie dreaming about one day getting a big check @Ernie_Halvo #stillwaiting

(http://s1-03.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/477955789.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on December 23, 2011, 04:16:18 AM
Haha! Great photo! Thanks for sharing. :cmas9
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: theschnauzers on December 23, 2011, 10:34:08 AM
Agreed, that is a great photo! Ernie is such a ham!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: RealityFreakWill on December 24, 2011, 07:28:33 PM
Look what Ernie got from his uncle for Christmas!  :cmas50

(https://p.twimg.com/AheP9NnCAAAk_jr.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on December 24, 2011, 07:31:06 PM
That...is embarrassing. :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Polaroid on December 24, 2011, 08:01:41 PM
:cmas50 :cmas50 :cmas50

What a cool uncle.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: RealityFreakWill on March 10, 2012, 02:50:59 AM
 :partie: :partie: :partie: :partie: :partie: :partie: :partie: :partie:

IT'S WEDDING DAY FOR ERNIE AND CINDY!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 10, 2012, 01:43:39 PM
Good for them!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Prophet on March 10, 2012, 01:44:12 PM
congrats!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: LoveRocked on March 10, 2012, 02:22:39 PM
Congrats!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: cattychic on March 11, 2012, 12:19:33 PM
They still haven't gotten the real check yet, anyhow Cindy just tweeted this and she gave me the okay to share:

MsCindyChiang Cindy Chiang
Ernie dreaming about one day getting a big check @Ernie_Halvo #stillwaiting

(http://s1-03.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/477955789.jpg)


His finger's are creepishly long in that pic :sneak
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: RealityFreakWill on March 16, 2012, 01:36:17 AM
CONGRATULATIONS, Mr. and Mrs. Ernest Halvorsen

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Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Polaroid on March 16, 2012, 02:02:00 AM
Those photos are gorgeous and they're both looking great! :colors Congratulations to them.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: LoveRocked on March 16, 2012, 02:03:33 AM
It's great photo but more beautiful! :colors and Congratulation!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Declive on March 16, 2012, 04:10:02 AM
The two dolls on the top of the cake  :lol: <333333333

Congratulations to them , i hope they have a wonderful life together!!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Theo on March 16, 2012, 06:21:18 AM
Congratulations! :colors
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: RealityFreakWill on March 16, 2012, 01:09:54 PM
Life & Style Exclusive: The Amazing Race Season-19 Winners Cindy Chiang and Ernie Halvorsen Tie the Knot!


They conquered The Amazing Race, and now they're ready for their next big adventure: marriage!

Cindy Chiang and Ernie Halvorsen, winners of the show's 19th season, exchanged "I do"s last weekend, Life & Style can exclusively reveal.

"The ceremony took place in one of Chicago's most historically significant buildings, The Rookery," a guest tells Life & Style. "They're so happy!"

Following the ceremony, a post-cocktail reception began at 5 p.m. Guests, including former Amazing Race contestants Ron Zeitz, Bill Smith, Justin and Jennifer Young and Marie and Liz Canavan, were transported via trolley to the gorgeous reception at another famous Chicago landmark, the Chicago Cultural Center.

"Everyone really celebrated and danced the night away," the guest says.

Cindy wore a beautiful Jorge Perez de la Habana gown with sparkly Badgley Mischka heels, while Ernie looked dapper in a traditional black tuxedo. The bridesmaids wore plum-color dresses with gold accents, and all the men wore special socks that looked like the Bavarian flag, in honor of the groom.

"It was a vintage-travel theme, with wedding programs inspired by passports," the guest reveals to Life & Style. "Framed vintage travel posters [decorated the] trays for the hors d'oeuvres during the cocktail reception, and stacked vintage luggage was used for the gift boxes. It was really cool."

For entrees, guests enjoyed herb-crusted filet of bistro beef and chicken breast stuffed with apple, currants, caramelized onions and caraway. Desserts included chocolate wedding cake filled with raspberry custard, milk-chocolate-covered bananas, chocolate-cheesecake lollipops and apple finger bars.

And though everyone was there to welcome the newlyweds, they couldn't let the big Amazing Race win go unnoticed!

"A small cake showcased Ernie and Cindy in their show t-shirts and backpacks," the guest adds. "It was great."

The pair, who were engaged during their time on the hit CBS show, won the $1 million jackpot in December.

http://m.lifeandstylemag.com/entry/view/id/74180/pn/all/p/0/?KSID=eca26157db16485b1f3ddb02a16616dc
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: RealityFreakWill on March 16, 2012, 02:22:34 PM
more pics....more to come later

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Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: choroneko on March 16, 2012, 04:50:00 PM
They are gonna have beautiful kids.  :colors
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: RealityFreakWill on March 17, 2012, 01:15:53 AM
From People Magazine: (Wes Craft, photographer)

The Amazing Race Winners Cindy Chiang & Ernie Halvorsen's Wedding Album

Chiang, in a Jorge Perez de la Habana dress, ties the knot with Halvorsen in Chicago – in amazing style

Bride and Groom

After covering four continents and 20,000 miles to win The Amazing Race (and $1 million) last season, Cindy Chiang, 30, and Ernie Halvorsen, 29, embarked on a new journey March 10, getting married in Chicago.

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A Million Dollar View

Wearing a gown by Jorge Perez de la Habana and sparkly shoes by Badgley Mischka, Chiang's special day took place in two landmark buildings in the couple's hometown. The ceremony happened at The Rookery, followed by guests traveling on a trolley to the Chicago Cultural Center for dinner and dancing at the reception.

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Amazing Setting

In the stunning lobby of The Rookery, the couple were married in front of guests including Amazing Race contestants Ron Zeitz and Bill Smith, Justin and Jennifer Young, and Marie and Liz Canavan. The bridesmaids wore plum-colored dresses and gold accents. The black tux-clad groomsmen donned socks patterned after the Bavarian flag in honor of Halvorsen, who had lived in Germany for work.

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Father of the Bride

Chiang's father Dr. Dalen Chiang walked the bride down the aisle for the wedding with – what else? – a travel theme, with passports for programs, a departure board telling dinner guests where to sit and menu cards that looked like telegrams in vintage envelopes.

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Cake Topper

The bride and groom are depicted in their Amazing Race gear atop a small cake. Guests at the reception enjoyed crusted filet of beef and chicken breast stuffed with apple, currant and caramelized onions and caraway. Desert was chocolate and raspberry custard wedding cake and treats of chocolate-covered bananas and chocolate cheesecake lollipops.

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http://www.people.com/people/gallery/0,,20579308,00.html

Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on March 17, 2012, 05:30:20 AM
Just so beautiful.. makes my eyes watery. :'(

Stay happy, Ernie and Cindy!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Genius on May 07, 2012, 11:53:05 AM
Maybe it's because the season is still quite recent, they are one of my fave teams.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Katarzyna on May 08, 2012, 12:15:59 AM
What a beautiful wedding!  :colors :nuala:
I'm jealous! Now I wanted get married too!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: supah on June 06, 2012, 12:26:36 AM
Ernie and Cindy announced on twitter that they are building a school in Nepal, which I'm sure the money they won is going towards  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: redskevin88 on June 06, 2012, 12:33:21 AM
Ernie and Cindy announced on twitter that they are building a school in Nepal, which I'm sure the money they won is going towards  :conf:

They also also working with an organization to build schools in rural Cambodia!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on June 06, 2012, 02:27:13 PM
Ernie and Cindy announced on twitter that they are building a school in Nepal, which I'm sure the money they won is going towards  :conf:

They also also working with an organization to build schools in rural Cambodia!

 :luvya: :ghug: Go Team Yellow!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: RealityFreakWill on October 12, 2014, 10:29:27 PM
Ernie and Cindy's first child, a boy is due to be born any day soon! Be on the lookout for the birth announcement here! I am going to ask Cindy for permission to share pictures.
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Bookworm on October 26, 2014, 04:16:05 PM
^  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: RealityFreakWill on October 27, 2014, 12:04:35 PM
From People....


Ernie and Cindy Halvorsen Welcome Son Maverick Zhang


It’s a boy!

Ernie and Cindy Halvorsen, who ran away with the Amazing Race‘s million-dollar prize in 2011, welcomed their first child on Wednesday, Oct. 22, they confirm to PEOPLE exclusively.

Maverick Zhang Halvorsen was born at 4:25 p.m., weighing in at 6 lbs., 10 oz. and was 19½ inches long.

Baby Maverick was delivered with the help of a midwife at Prentice Women’s Hospital in Chicago.

“Baby Mav, the world is waiting for you,” says Ernie, 32. “Live in the along.”

Adds Cindy, 33: “We are unbelievably in love with our little guy and excited about our next amazing adventure!”

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The couple wed in 2012.

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http://celebritybabies.people.com/2014/10/27/amazing-race-ernie-cindy-halvorsen-welcome-son-maverick-zhang/
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: RealityFreakWill on October 27, 2014, 01:13:11 PM
MAVERICK ZHANG HALVORSEN

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Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: stekay on October 27, 2014, 02:02:35 PM
What a little cutie! Congratulations to my favourite winners ever!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Bookworm on October 27, 2014, 04:13:59 PM
What a little cutie! Congratulations to my favourite winners ever!
Exactly! Congrats to Ernie & Cindy!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: David on October 29, 2014, 06:00:19 AM
Even though I hated them as a TAR team, they make a great family. You can see tons of love spreading around in that pics. Congrats to both!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Jobby on October 30, 2014, 04:49:23 AM
<333333 :<3
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Genius on November 02, 2014, 03:28:48 AM
Also possibly my fave winners ever. Congrats!  :conf: :hearts: :hrt:
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: RealityFreakWill on July 22, 2016, 01:13:29 PM
Ernie and Cindy Halvorsen Welcome Son Ernest Zhang

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There’s a new arrival in the Amazing Race family!

Ernie and Cindy Halvorsen, who won the long-running reality show in 2011, welcomed their second son, Ernest Zhang Halvorsen, they confirm to PEOPLE.

The new baby joins 21-month-old big brother Maverick Zhang.

Ernest, who was born in Chicago on Tuesday, July 19, weighed in at 8 lbs. and was 20 inches long. He came into the world at 7:06 p.m.

“Our second-born carries the name Ernest into a fifth generation of Halvorsen men,” Cindy tells PEOPLE alongside the exclusive birth announcement. “We’re calling him ‘Finn,’ which is an old nickname for the five-dollar bill.”

Predictably, the family is thrilled with the new addition — but no one is happier than Maverick, who turns 2 in October.

“Maverick is the sweetest big brother,” says Cindy. “He loves to hug and kiss Finn! We’re exploding with happiness as a family of four.”

“Creating our family together is our greatest and most fulfilling adventure,” she continues. “We’re so lucky to be parents to these two amazing little boys who fill our hearts with love and laughter.”

http://celebritybabies.people.com/2016/07/22/ernie-halvorsen-cindy-halvorsen-welcome-son-ernest-zhang/
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: Firestone on July 25, 2016, 01:10:51 AM
So cute!
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: stekay on July 25, 2016, 06:57:10 AM
Fave winners <3
Title: Re: TAR 19: Ernie Halvorsen & Cindy Chiang (Engaged)
Post by: HavaDrPepper on September 23, 2017, 06:40:21 PM
Ernie and Cindy took part in a short 3 day race in Seattle called "The Emerald Race"

Episode 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=EKyRwUPDsyc