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The Amazing Race => The Amazing Race Discussion => Topic started by: Neobie on April 23, 2011, 02:54:51 AM
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Hey guys, I'm working on plotting all the historical Pit Stops of TAR to as accurate a point as possible, and right now I'm stuck on the Starting Line of TAR 3 in the Everglades. The credits list "Miccosukee Indian Village", but I'm pretty sure that's not the starting line. Here are some other clues:
1. Behind Phil is an airboat. I can't tell land from water on Google Earth within the Everglades, do you guys know how?
2. The sixth picture listed here is of teams travelling east along Route 41, just before the intersection with Loop Rd.
Any ideas, guys?
(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/2109/everglades.jpg)
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Yes. The start line is near (as in "behind" the village. If you look at the cars the teams drove onto U.S. 41 (Tamiami Trail) there is a dirt road IIRC that they turn off of onto the highway.
I confirmed this with Drew Riker at TARCON 3, when it would have been fresh in his memory.
The other thing to keep in mind is that the location is far more developed now due to the Indian casino than it was in 2002 when the start was filmed.
Edited to add: Neobie, the location would be well to the "west" of the US 41 intersection with Loop Road; If I recall correctly, it was actually west of the county line between Miami-Dade and Collier counties.
There's been some clear development on both sides of the highway, as I do not remember seeing that many structures along that area of 41 at the time. One possibility is a short dirt road that had a camera icon in Google Earth with the address of 54002 US 41 . The one thing I definitely pinned down in talking with Drew about it was that it was past the "Bid Bend" which is where US 41 turns towards the NW for a distance and then back towards the west headed towards Naples.
It other words, the drive was further away out from Miami than the reference to Loop Road.
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This is a great idea! I'd love to be able to just look at a map and tell exactly where TAR has been. Maybe you could include all the route info/roadblocks etc as well afterwards? Let me know if you'd like help doing this!
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This is not a historical pitstop, but I live about 7 miles from the Tillikum Retreat in Newberg, Oregon where the final leg detour of Season 13 was. Its on NE North Valley Road just outside of Newberg.
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Thanks guys, and thanks TheSchnauzers for the help with Miami! There's only one location that matches the clues: a service reservoir just south of the Dade Collier Airport. I now have the locations for all Pit Stops in TARs 1-5, down to an accuracy I'm pretty happy about! (With the exception of Ban Plai Pong Pang, and the boats-floating-in-harbours Pit Stops...)
Now moving on... if anyone can figure out the Ile de Goree Pit Stop in TAR 6, that'd be pretty amazing! It doesn't help that there's no name to it, so I'm randomly searching Panoramio for something that fits...
I'd be happy to move on to other locations once I have all the Pit Stops down!
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There! All 244 of the starting lines, ending points, Pit Stops and faux-Pit Stops over 18 seasons! The two I'm most unsure about still are the ones for Ile de Goree and the Makgadikgadi Pans, but I'm pretty happy with almost everything else!
(Guess which two Pit Stops were closest to each other?)
Let me know if you have anything to add, change, or if you are familiar with any city the race has visited to be able to help pinpoint other locations on the race!
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There! All 244 of the starting lines, ending points, Pit Stops and faux-Pit Stops over 18 seasons! The two I'm most unsure about still are the ones for Ile de Goree and the Makgadikgadi Pans, but I'm pretty happy with almost everything else!
(Guess which two Pit Stops were closest to each other?)
Let me know if you have anything to add, change, or if you are familiar with any city the race has visited to be able to help pinpoint other locations on the race!
If you need anything from TAR18's Sydney/Manly leg I can pinpoint clue locations as well as the pit stop.
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What a labor of love!! This will be the reference to go to for forever....
Wonderful job Neobie!! :yourock:
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There! All 244 of the starting lines, ending points, Pit Stops and faux-Pit Stops over 18 seasons! The two I'm most unsure about still are the ones for Ile de Goree and the Makgadikgadi Pans, but I'm pretty happy with almost everything else!
(Guess which two Pit Stops were closest to each other?)
Let me know if you have anything to add, change, or if you are familiar with any city the race has visited to be able to help pinpoint other locations on the race!
Neobie,
When you said "There." I expected a link a link to your list. Where can I find it?
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Apskip,
The file is attached at the bottom of the post. You must have the Google Earth program to open it.
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As requested by Apskip via PM, a list of the places pinned. (I'm pretty sure it's up on Wikipedia though.)
http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/967/pitstops.jpg
Thanks RealityTVistheBest! I wonder if the Pit Stop was in the cluster of houses near the House of Slaves or near the Fort? I couldn't find photographs that match up perfectly...
I think the closest Pit Stops were the ones in Kolkata, one at the Fountain of Joy and the other at the Victoria Memorial. They're just across the road from each other, less than 100m/300ft apart! DrRox got it right via PM, but you also gave it in a list of five six Pit Stops, so I'm not sure about the prize? :)
Coutzy, I'll let you know once I get to Australia! Thanks for the offer!
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As requested by Apskip via PM, a list of the places pinned. (I'm pretty sure it's up on Wikipedia though.)
http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/967/pitstops.jpg
Very cool Neobie! That is a list we will be able to look back on as a reference for a long time.
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I was taking a look last night and I would have picked Kolkuta, as well; I remember thinking it at the time while TAR:UB was in Kolkuta.
Before last season, my two choices would have been the UAE, and TAR 1 in southern Thailand.
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I think these Pit Stop pairs were also pretty close?
Shanghai, TAR 6 and 16, 1.04km
Prague, TAR 15, 1.08km
Hong Kong, TAR 2 and 17, 1.33km
Seoul, TAR 4 and 17, 1.33km
St Petersburg, TAR 17, 1.53km
Interesting note: Tiantan Park is slightly off the Beijing meridial axis, but if you go from south to north in a straight line you can go through where Kevin/Drew were eliminated, then where Bilal/Sa'eed were eliminated, then the faux Pit Stop in TAR 14, and finally where LaKisha/Jennifer were eliminated...
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I think I've found a match, but it's useless because all the photos are captioned "streets of Goree" or something similar. I agree that it's probably in the warren of small streets in the southeast quarter. (photo source (http://www.routard.com/photos/senegal/92741-petite_rue_de_goree.htm))
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You guys are awesome, we found it! :yess:
Thanks to Slowhatch's photo I found a little cleft in the road where it veers right, and RealityTVistheBest's aerial view helps pick the road out in a way Google Earth doesn't. There's a little plaza Kris/Jon run past as they head to Phil, and it matches up with what we have.
Great job guys!
(Now if anyone can narrow down the Ban Plai Pong Pang, the Breakaways, or the Magkadigkadi Pans Pit Stop I will be suitably impressed!)
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We need some site visits... :lol:
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Could this possibly be the location of the Plai Pong Pang house?
http://goo.gl/maps/wN72
It has a similar name and is near Amphawa and is on a river but maybe there are many places around there like this :duno:
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It's got to be near there, Plai Pong Pang ปลายโพงพาง is the name of the village, and Ban บ้าน pretty much just means 'house'...
Not sure if this map, and the Thai directions to which Google wrings its hands, helps?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9QcwQONKkbs/SqucJ9sOnDI/AAAAAAAAAK0/EQYCq-a85w8/s1600-h/AmpawaMap.jpg
เส้นทางจาก จ.สมุทรสงครามมาได้ 2 เส้นทาง คือ
เส้นทางที่ 1 ใช้ทางหลวงหมายเลข 2 (ถ.พระราม 2) ข้ามสะพานสมเด็จพระพุทธเลิศหล้า แล้วชิดซ้ายเพื่อลอดใต้สะพาน ตรงไปยัง อ. โพงพาง เลี้ยวซ้าย สู่ ถ.แม่กลอง-ปากท่อสายเก่า ตรงไปให้สังเกตซ้ายมือเป็นทางเข้าวัดโคกเกตุตรงเข้าไปจะพบบ้านทรงไทยปลายโพงพาง อยู่ฝั่งซ้ายมือ
เส้นทางที่ 2 จากสี่แยกปากท่อเข้า ถ.แม่กลอง-ปากท่อสายเก่า ราว 11 กม. จะถึงวัดโคกเกตุ เลี้ยวซ้ายตรงไปจะพบจุดหมายปลายทาง
สถานที่
เลขที่ 253 บ้านโคกเกตุ หมู่ 7 ต.ปลายโพงพาง อ.อัมพวา จ.สมุทรสงคราม
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Im Translator comes up with this:
Directions from Mon. Samut have two routes to a route, take Highway No. 2 (Rama 2 rd.) Bridge King Buddha Loet La.
Then left to go under the bridge directly to the message. Phongphang turn left into Rd. Maeklong - Tho old line.
Right to left, note the entrance to Wat Khok note directly to the House for the late Phongphang found. On the left hand path 2.
If the intersection into a mouthpiece. Mae Klong - Tho old line about 11 km.
Is to measure Kok Neptune Turn left at the destination location is found at No. 253 Moo 7, Ban Khok Kate A. Amphawa Samutsongkram Phongphang end.
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:bump for a NEW YEAR!!
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This thread should definitely be kept in a prime position! I've personally found this to be incredibly useful resource :xmas146
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I read this thread before I went back and rewatched every season, and I noticed that only the Pitstops from the American seasons were covered. I'm not a pro at this like Neobie, and many of these seasons aren't in English, but I tried to be as precise as possible There are a few that aren't correct, ranging from a few yards to...having no clue (help would be appreciated, especially with HaMerotz LaMillion's Finish Line.), so I put in parentheses in the names of those that I know aren't perfect a short description of how off they are. So here are the Pitstops from the International Versions for anyone who's interested.
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So one of the things I absolutely love to do is to track The Amazing Race on Google Earth, finding all the places they go to and marking them down. I've made one for every season that's finished airing so far.
I'd love to share them with you, but first someone needs to suggest to me a good file-sharing site that I can upload them to. Preferably one that doesn't take them down after a certain amount of disuse.
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www.photobucket.com should work.
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www.photobucket.com should work.
For .kmz files? They're not images.
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Heh, cool. But this isn't just Pit Stops. It's everything.
I see that I can add attachments to my post. Didn't see that, lol. Anyone have any objections if I make multiple posts in a row to get them all? Combined filesize of them all is 3.5 MB
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rapidshare?
THIS IS AWESOME <3
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Hosting isn't strictly necessary. Say for example I don't have GE and want to view Neobie's project. Here is the URL for his post attachment:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=25196.0;attach=171918
Copy that address and paste it into the search box for Google maps; hit the search button and...there it is.
So once you've finished your project, just attach it to a post.
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I can't attach it to a post, it's too big.
I'm trying to use Rapidshare, but I'm getting incredibly confused. I don't know how to give permission for others to download my file...
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This is terrific! Thank you!
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Aha! Got it with Google Drive!
HERE THEY ARE!!
You can view them on Google Maps just by clicking on them, but to get the full experience I suggest you download them and open them with Google Earth, because then you can see the icons, labels and descriptions I've included.
Now I am just one person. I've done my best, but there's most certainly going to be some mistakes and inaccuracies. Sometimes I simply can't find anything and have to guess. If you have anything significant to bring to my attention about anything I can change or fix, please let me know. But if you just want to say "hey, move that one label a little bit over, it's kinda off", I'm probably not going to bother.
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HaMerotz LaMillion 6 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eXL6ULukEcut9wprK8J7Erz0UTK9bYGk/view?usp=sharing)
HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Csvqvz4Iqb_i8fLFVHNe3MaShSAAQK_v/view?usp=sharing)
HaMerotz LaMillion 8: All-Stars (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jvNFPD2cRD6JpNYujdeiEqskr1I9raSa/view?usp=sharing)
Velyki Perehony (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8s8zJCqz2PzUmxNNUFuaVlIc28/edit?usp=sharing)
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BONUS: Shanghai Rush (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8s8zJCqz2PzQVlHQnNNczJEZVE/edit?usp=sharing)
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Here's Season 22 (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8s8zJCqz2PzOHRYODFQRkc2OWc/edit?usp=sharing)
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They caught their train from Lime Street, not South Parkway jsyk
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They caught their train from Lime Street, not South Parkway jsyk
Thank you, that is very helpful. I get most all of my data either directly from the show or from Wikipedia, so corrections like these are always welcome.
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I got a problem here. After I import the KMZ file in Google Map, it doesn't show the route marker. Does anyone here know how to fix it?
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They caught their train from Lime Street, not South Parkway jsyk
Thank you, that is very helpful. I get most all of my data either directly from the show or from Wikipedia, so corrections like these are always welcome.
Being nitpicky again :lol: The ferry teams took went to Birkenhead, which is just on the outskirts of Liverpool, hence why teams simply couldn't walk from the Port of Liverpool buildings to Lime Street (about a 10 minute walk) and have all of them bunched together on one train to Euston - it's marked as STENA LINE LIVERPOOL on Google Maps :tup:
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I got a problem here. After I import the KMZ file in Google Map, it doesn't show the route marker. Does anyone here know how to fix it?
I don't quite understand your question. If you mean you can't see the icons, names and descriptions, it seems it takes a bit to load in Google Drive. Try it again. Or, otherwise, please clarify.
They caught their train from Lime Street, not South Parkway jsyk
Thank you, that is very helpful. I get most all of my data either directly from the show or from Wikipedia, so corrections like these are always welcome.
Being nitpicky again :lol: The ferry teams took went to Birkenhead, which is just on the outskirts of Liverpool, hence why teams simply couldn't walk from the Port of Liverpool buildings to Lime Street (about a 10 minute walk) and have all of them bunched together on one train to Euston - it's marked as STENA LINE LIVERPOOL on Google Maps :tup:
Nitpicky is good!
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GB, have you compared your locations to the locations mapped by Neobie for TAR 1-19?
There were some locations that, with discussion, Neobie was finally able to locate, such as the pit stop in the native village in northern Thailand in TAR 3, which really took a lot of discussion, and the start line location for TAR 2, which required some knowledge of the Florida Everglades and the cross-state highway US 41 as it was in 2002 and what had changed after that.
I do hope that we can somehow pull into one place all the precise information that has been generated on the date-times and locations for the filming of each Race. There has been a lot of projects that have gathered different pieces of that, but I'd really like to get all of that into a single depository.
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And that should be RFF's new WIKI!!
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/board,142.0.html
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theschnauzers: If you can provide a link directly to wherever he provides insight, I'll be glad to add it, but I'd rather not sift through pages upon pages of a thread if at all possible.
georgiapeach: I did all that hard work on the leaderboards on the wiki and you didn't even acknowledge me. *Anime tear*
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oh sweetie, I AM sorry! I KNOW you did a fabulous job!!
But TAR-time is all consuming this time of year...I save all the fun stuff up for my "down" time! :kuss:
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Heehee, I was just poking fun.
When I end up having to guess while making these TAR KMZ's, it just kills me. But sometimes, it's all I can do.
The earliest example I can think of: Did anyone ever find Songwe Village?
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theschnauzers: If you can provide a link directly to wherever he provides insight, I'll be glad to add it, but I'd rather not sift through pages upon pages of a thread if at all possible.
georgiapeach: I did all that hard work on the leaderboards on the wiki and you didn't even acknowledge me. *Anime tear*
GB, go to the first page of this thread, you'll see the discussion between me and Neobie, and you'll find the attachment with Neobie's GE kmz file with the locations up through TAR 18 (post reply number 5)
If there are differences between what you have and what Neobie has, this thread would be a good place to work those out. And of course, Neobie has posted leg by leg maps of locations in different "map" threads, so for much of that it's a matter of transferring the information into the kmz file. (While I understand what to do, I am not proficient in actually creating those files.
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Oh yeah, oops. I keep forgetting georgiapeach merged my thread with another one :P
Okay, I'll have a look. Are these "map" threads on this site?
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Okay! Fixed up some of the Pit Stop locations!
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GB, you should find a given season's map thread in the archived subforum for that season; I think there was one that covered the seasons before Neobie started mapping in the TAR style for each leg as things went along, but I'm not sure where that one is. You might be able to do a search of the forum threads for the maps as well.
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Okay, I found Neobie's map threads for 15, 17 and 19-22, and updated my KMZ's accordingly (Thanks Neo mah man, if you ever read this)
Are there any more?
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I got a problem here. After I import the KMZ file in Google Map, it doesn't show the route marker. Does anyone here know how to fix it?
I don't quite understand your question. If you mean you can't see the icons, names and descriptions, it seems it takes a bit to load in Google Drive. Try it again. Or, otherwise, please clarify.
I'm so sorry about my bad English. So here's my situation. After I import the kmz file into the Google Maps under My Place-> Create Map -> Import, the icons shown on the map aren't same like the one opened in Google Drive. I cannot see the icons of Roadblock clue, Detour clue, the red and yellow route maker (Route Info), and so on. So my question is how can I fix the icon problem in Google Maps? Is it possible for you to export the file into xml format or other kind of them? Btw, really appreciate your effort for organizing the Races into the map. =]
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^^^Are you using Google Earth? I'm not sure how well Google Maps uses the kmz files.
Okay, I found Neobie's map threads for 15, 17 and 19-22, and updated my KMZ's accordingly (Thanks Neo mah man, if you ever read this)
Are there any more?
I uploaded a file on the top of the second page of the pitstops from the foreign editions where I tried to get as exact as possible, but there are quite a few that I have wrong (I marked them with red and included a short reason, if I recall correctly). Not nearly as many points as what you've done, so I'm pretty impressed that someone took the time to do what you did.
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Okay, I found Neobie's map threads for 15, 17 and 19-22, and updated my KMZ's accordingly (Thanks Neo mah man, if you ever read this)
Are there any more?
I uploaded a file on the top of the second page of the pitstops from the foreign editions where I tried to get as exact as possible, but there are quite a few that I have wrong (I marked them with red and included a short reason, if I recall correctly). Not nearly as many points as what you've done, so I'm pretty impressed that someone took the time to do what you did.
It wasn't all done at once, heh. It's been a running project ever since I joined the TAR fandom.
And yeah hotriceguy, I'd suggest getting Google Earth to view these. It's free.
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Wow, I've forgotten about this thread for a while, but great job GB! I'll spend some time looking over to compare it with what I and you have!
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Wow, I've forgotten about this thread for a while, but great job GB! I'll spend some time looking over to compare it with what I and you have!
Hay dood!
lol, I don't doubt for a single second that there'll be something that's wrong. A lot of something :P
But if you compare the numbers, there's still a lot right :-[
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Checked my "hometowns" of Hong Kong, Singapore, Chicago, and Cambridge; looking good!
Two edits to the Hong Kong maps:
1. Herbal Tea in TAR 2 was on 53 Reclamation St (remembering the street number after 10 years; but I think it's correct), on Kowloon between Saigon and Pak Hoi Sts, not Aberdeen.
2. The tram detour in TAR 19 was on the north side of the island, starting at Hennessy Rd and Queen's Rd E and turning around at the tram roundabout/terminus at the junction of Yee Wo St and Leighton Rd.
I think there was an unaired location in the Chicago finale where the Chicago Fire started... Can someone else verify?
I couldn't access the TAR 16 maps (bounced to TAR 15)... Do you mind checking the link?
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Neobie, I remember the Mrs. O'Leary's barn being a location as well. Wiki gives a sourced address for the barn as 137 DeKoven Street, Google Maps says the address is currently numbered as 558 West DeKoven.
https://www.google.com/search?q=137+DeKoven+Street&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
Hope that helps!
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I couldn't access the TAR 16 maps (bounced to TAR 15)... Do you mind checking the link?
TAR 16 Maps are here:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21546.0.html
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Oops, yes the TAR 16 link was wrong. I fixed it.
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Hi! I'm a little late to the party, but I hope I still have something to contribute!
We recently began a TAR rewatch, and while proofing some spreadsheet info I thought it would be nice to map out locations visited, and it occurred to me that Google Earth would be an excellent medium in which to do so. While I was searching for hints as to where Ban Plai Pong Pang might be, I stumbled across this thread.
Having taken so much from others in various forums, I'd like to give back a little. Here's the work I've completed so far, for races 1-3. Now speaking personally, I love the idea of attaching annotations directly to the kmz entries, but do not love the boxes that float on the screen when flying to the new location. So I have companion annotation spreadsheets for each race. In addition to locations, they contain clue verbage (original and/or reconstructed), confidence ratings (how confident I am that I have located each site correctly), and some justifications (particularly if my choice differs from Neobie's or GB's).
I'd welcome any comments, feedback and corrections as appropriate. My biggest goal is more information for everybody!
Update: See reply #108 for combined files for races 1-10.
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:bigwelcome WCPAMOTM !!
Thank you so much for sharing!
I am so not a GE expert, I will leave it to the others to comment, but many thanks!
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How wonderful!!
Early season KMZs were made by me before TAR10 even aired, using incredibly old and inferior maps. Deshnoke (TAR1) was a big, fat BLOB... I'd never gotten around to updating them, so this is great! Thanks!
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I am having trouble imagining doing something like this with tools that were available when the races originally aired. Street View is a tremendous help, when it is available. Panaramio photos can provide great supporting evidence, though they can also be misleading because they are not always precisely placed.
Also, a fresh re-watch means that I can sometime pick up details that I missed or didn't remember from before. A non-relavent but interesting example: it appears that the during the early morning departure from Kasteel Muiderslot in Race 4 leg 6, the same driver appears to have picked up Millie and Chuck, Monica and Sheree, and Tian and Jaree.
Since the above posting, I've modified one route marker, the Tunisian Desert roadblock. In considering it, it seems unlikely to me that the racers would have been required to make a seven-mile trek across the desert. Locating this off off Piste Ksar Ghilane Douz would make the walk/camel ride about a mile and a half, and that makes more sense to me. Also, I've made a few minor tweaks to the annotations spreadsheets.
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Race 4 files:
Amazing Race 04 - kmz (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B07hhm2EQzfUUWxqUzBjRHI1RFU/edit?usp=sharing)
Amazing Race 04 - annotations (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B07hhm2EQzfUbWRSUDk0ZGZHdW8/edit?usp=sharing)
Race 5 files likely ready in 2-3 weeks.
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Oh lord, TAR 4! LOL!
Yeah, finding anything in India or Kota Kinabalu during 2009? Not likely! Hahaha! It was a big blurry mess.
But, in addition to that, I made TAR4 and 5 before I saw their seasons. So yeah, thanks for helping me make it un-horrible!
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Since the above posting, I've modified one route marker, the Tunisian Desert roadblock. In considering it, it seems unlikely to me that the racers would have been required to make a seven-mile trek across the desert. Locating this off off Piste Ksar Ghilane Douz would make the walk/camel ride about a mile and a half, and that makes more sense to me.
If memory serves me correctly, the information about the location of that task that was not broadcast or included by CBS in its episode summary (that it posted for the early seasons ) came from the post-season reconstruction of the Race that had the assistance of several of the first season teams at TWoP. (Those threads were purged years ago, unfortunately, at a time when server memory was expensive.) You might want to contact those first season teams that have a presence online and see if they can verify the distance question. One alternate possibility is to check Miss Alli's recap of that episode at TWoP, in those days her recaps were about the only alternate source to the CBS summaries.
One reason why I'm not sure the shorter distance fits is the fact that one team got lost trying to reach the RB clue for that leg; the second reason is the broadcast comments of teams during that task, since the team member riding the camel had to spot the oasis for the team member guiding the camel. Since the endpoint wasn't visible when teams started the trek, it is a question of how far in the distance a team member could see to spot the goal, and I suspect that would have been possible when starting out on that task.
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Theschnauzers, I think what you say makes good sense. It's possible that an intervening dune might have prevented direct sighting from the second roadblock point, but in the absense of any other confirmed information, Occam's Razor compels us to assume a longer distance.
I think my flaw is that I was trying to make a false choice between about 7 miles and about a mile and a half. Re-watching the sequence again, it seems certain that Kevin and Drew thought that a vehicle was essential for reaching the roadblock clue, and in all likelihood other teams thought that also. That could shorten the distance.
Maybe Brennan with his journal might have a recollection of that approximate distance, and Bill has always been generous with any information he has that he can share. If I ever get the chance, I will ask either or both.
But for now, I will still rate this location with a low degree of confidence. In my view, this is an ongoing project, and I remain open to adjusting even high-confidence locations when given compelling evidence that it should be.
Aside from that, I have replaced the Excel spreadsheets containing annotations with versions saved in PDF format.
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Velyki Perehony added to the big list on Page 2
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Added links for Race 5 to the original posting above. Also, 1 modification for Race 1: I was never really happy with the location I had picked for Sea, Land and Trek, but with an episode review I chose a better location.
ETA: Race 6 and 7 links also now added.
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hello everyone...
my first post so i hope i do this right. im very late to the party but i hope this is of interest.
i love TAR and GE and this has been a labour of love for me...
too many people to credit and apologies in advance for my mistakes but...
heres my contribution to the TAR GE project. all seasons up to 19. 20 is still WIP... struggling with baku!!
ive tried to plot start lines, airports, detours, roadblocks, route markers and pit stops.
i still remember struggling for hours to fing songwe village!! roll on S23 and the first global TAR so i can enter from Ireland...
all comments more than welcome...
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nickf21, we're always grateful for more complete platting of the exact locations for everything we've seen on TAR.
I hope you took/take advantage of the past work to locate those places, especially those referenced upthread since a lot of contributions were involved to help precisely pinpoint those locations in past years, and when more timely information and input was available. Places change appearance over time, and sometimes makes it harder to locate. (Examples the start line for TAR 3 in the Florida Everglades, and the northern Thailand pitstop in TAR 2). It is important to have your work vetted so that the final results are as accurate as humanly possible.
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hello everyone...
my first post so i hope i do this right. im very late to the party but i hope this is of interest.
i love TAR and GE and this has been a labour of love for me...
too many people to credit and apologies in advance for my mistakes but...
heres my contribution to the TAR GE project. all seasons up to 19. 20 is still WIP... struggling with baku!!
ive tried to plot start lines, airports, detours, roadblocks, route markers and pit stops.
i still remember struggling for hours to fing songwe village!! roll on S23 and the first global TAR so i can enter from Ireland...
all comments more than welcome...
HUGE :bigwelcome To RFF!! We love all contributions, this is def a labor of love for everyone!
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thanks! some of the work above is amazing! wish I had found this forum years ago!
I am in awe of all of you.
you have made an old man very happy. (and my missus very unhappy as I prepare for another TAR marathon.)
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Yay another fan from Ireland! Hi Nick :hoot:
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Welcome to RFF, Nick! Enjoy your time!
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Welcome, Nick! Looking forward to "comparing notes"!
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Added HaMerotz LaMillion 3 to the large list on page 2
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Forgot to add TAR Canada. Oops! It's there now.
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Added The Amazing Race Vietnam 2013 to the large list on page 2
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Ha! YES! I finally have found it! HaMerotz LaMillion's starting line!
(Picture of it in case you don't know or remember)
(http://i.imgur.com/RsoDfor.png)
That is clearly not Ben-Gurion Airport as Wikipedia most incorrectly states. No, it is actually this place (http://www.avenue-l.co.il/), Avenue/Avenue Hall/Avenue Convention Center/Avenue L (I don't know what it's actually called since there isn't much info on the place online in English) in "Airport City", which is about 3 miles east southeast of the airport.
I've placed my point at 31°59'9.82"N 34°54'56.66"E. Time to find the finish line.
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Nice find! Everyone thought it was BG Airport because Raz introduces himself and says "This is BG Airport", and teams are basically shown walking through a door directly to the departure gates.
Cool! I'll update...well, ALL the things I guess. lol.
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Finally, after a brief 2-and-a-half months, I've finished Race 8. Sorry, had a number of disruptions lately! The big post on page 3 is updated with the links.
One thing I've began to notice with this race is leg departures that were significantly displaced from the previous pitstop without any acknowlegement of such, specifically in Panama. So I've began to make note of them.
I hope to get Race 9 done by the end of the year, if the holidays don't interfere too much.
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TAR23 AND TAR Latin America 5 added to the big list on Page 2!
Problems? Let me know!
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At long last, with the help of sveped, I have finally completed my KMZ of TAR Norge 2. Thanks for the hard work, bud!
Note: I basically guessed for the Iguazu Falls, Argentina locations, as I couldn't find any of the places they went to. If anyone would like to help clean those up, please feel free to lend a hand!!
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All-Stars KMZ Added! :D
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KMZ for The Amazing Race Vietnam 2014 added, so that you DON'T have to watch it.
See it on Page 2.
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Added TAR Canada 2. Does anyone happen to know where the U-Turn in Hong Kong was?
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Here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,29939.msg996644.html#msg996644).
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Gotcha, thx!
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Added TAR Australia vs. New Zealand
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Great going, GB!
I'm trying to fill in a couple of the gaps - can anyone figure out where is the "gypsy camp" in Romania in TAR 14?
ETA: Should have looked five minutes longer! It's here (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bran+507025,+Romania/@45.4926736,25.3558161,3a,75y,121.31h,79.74t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZknG-Tt98fx77qVvSD1Gqg!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x40b347e54ce55873:0xb2a3745ffef5cc10)! (Got thrown off by the different colour paint. It's been 6 years already!)
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Hey guys,
I am having absolutely no luck in locating the Casbah d'If. Where is it??
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With help from OvalOrange and Slowhatch, here're the locations from the two Moroccan legs! (The only thing missing is the teaware shop, which doesn't seem to be the El Bahja Souk.)
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Thanks a lot!
Sure about that pottery stand? I thought it was in Amizmiz.
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Sure about the pottery! It's "15km in the direction of Tameslouht," and matches up with several visuals, including http://this one (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,30601.msg1047716.html#msg1047716) Slowhatch found.
Working backwards for the earlier seasons: can anyone figure out the kiwi farm in TAR 13.4? There are crates in the background that say Trevelyan's (http://www.trevelyan.co.nz/) but I can't find the roads they're on, even with Street View!
(Note: No lane markings, power line on left]
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(http://i.imgur.com/kSsJBgj.jpg)
Can any super-awesome detective figure out which building in Jaipur this is?
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It looks like it might be a part of Albert Hall/Museum. Move the camera around here (http://places.wonobo.com/jaipur/albert-hall-central-museum/770) to see if there's a matching viewpoint.
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Are there any plans to at least merge the US TAR Google Earth Map files into one file?
As to other editions, I'd wouldn't mind one file per version (merging all the season files of each version), but at a minimum I'd would love to have TAR US as one file to download.
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Added TAR25 and the new Chinese version (Jisu Qianjin)
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Great work GB!
I've got a few updates, especially for the earlier seasons (only worked back to TAR 12 for now)! Among them:
- The gold-mining and dancing village in Burkina Faso in TAR 12
- The auto-rickshaw yard in Delhi, chicken farm in Kazakhstan, and military camp in Moscow in TAR 13
- The boatyard in Bangkok and swimming pool in Beijing in TAR 14
- The dynamite testing grounds in Sweden in TAR 15
- The farm in Puerto Varas and the bull-lasso restaurant in Bariloche in TAR 16
- The antenna/coffin Detour in Accra and water-pumping station in Oman in TAR 17
- The Detour village on Lake Malawi in TAR 19
- The cattle corral in Buenos Aires in TAR 20
- The rafting locations in Sabah in TAR 24
Hope this helps!
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Added TAR Latin America 6 AKA The Amazing Ecuador Thing.
Page 2 as always
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Sorry for the delay, here is The Amazing Race Philippines Season 2. You know where to find it.
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KMZ for the absolutely spectacular HaMerotz LaMillion 4 added to page two!
Still looking for Bekanaoka Oi... :gaah:
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Not sure how to do this properly (e.g. attach .kmz files), but here, on Google Street View, is GK Teahouse (https://www.google.com/maps/@25.017595,121.532667,3a,75y,270.46h,69.36t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s52qDmE550LSDrLNnT2UJIA!2e0) (TAR12, Leg 10 - Taiwan). It's a chain, but this is the one they visited.
After that, they had to find a clown. Here (https://www.google.com/maps/@25.013336,121.535231,3a,85.7y,231.89h,74.62t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1srseYNAm6T4loesWi2hd7jQ!2e0) is where they found him. (Being daytime in this image, most of the stalls haven't been set up.)
Then they go to Youth Park and walk barefoot along a health path (https://www.google.com/maps/@25.025513,121.504642,3a,75y,176.19h,75.91t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sQAc_PFZHBtZdsD0uY4dhVg!2e0), covered with small, rounded stones (which can cause pain!). It's hard to see, but it's right in the middle of the image to the right of the end of the path leading into the park.
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Updated through Race 10, and combined into one KMZ and one annotations pdf (by popular demand). Some updates from previous submissions; for example I think I have some pretty good evidence as to where the old bridge on Mueng Kut (Race 2) was (note the past tense, as it would no longer exist).
I probably am going to leave it at this, because Neobie will surely finish TAR 11 before I can. He does some amazing work and anything I would do that he's already done would likely be redundant at best.
Perhaps I will spend the time instead searching for Ban Plai Pong Pang.
Amazing Race 01-10: kmz (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B07hhm2EQzfUZTFRRmJCSHRnMEU/view?usp=sharing)
Amazing Race 01-10: annotations (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B07hhm2EQzfURVZ3VHFpT2FpcXc/view?usp=sharing)
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I thought we found Plai Pong Pang...
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Never been very happy with where I've located that pitstop, and reviewing the episode again makes me less confident. It would seem to me that there should be more buildings in the area. And boats carrying Mary / Peach and Oswald / Danny are shown in a leftward bend of the river, though that might not be immediately after departing as is suggested.
Any location I've found is subject to revision on further examination.
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Sorry, I meant to say that someone previously had found it. I can't remember who, it might have been Neobie.
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Added TAR26!
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Finally, a much needed correction has been made to the itinerary of TAR Australia 2. The Detour in Vancouver did not happen at Mount Seymour, and I solved this conundrum by going out to look for it! Haha.
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Updated some of the icons to better match the different Pit Stop mats used in international versions.
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Finally finished TAR 26, thanks for the reference GB!
Managed to find these tough ones!
- The puzzle box Roadblock in Matsushiro
- My Way Cabaret in Phuket
- The snooker club and engine factory in Bangkok
- The Pit Start marina in Monaco
- The salt lick, "San village", and "ranger station" in Erindi, all of which were close to one another in the Old Traders Lodge
- The Roadblock and Detour locations around Swakopmund
- The hot tub canal in Amsterdam
- The sugar cane plantation in Trujillo
- The potato field in Otuzco
- P2 Ranch in Cleburne
I'm working backwards and am at TAR 11; any definite location for Yanahurco Ranch in Cotopaxi? Imagery there is terrible!
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Added TAR Canada 3. Anyone know where the Roadblock in New Delhi was?
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You mean the turban task? I know where the dropoff spot was--see here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,31516.msg1122947.html#msg1122947). Teams had to run down a long "alley" before finding the spot, so I'm guessing it's here (https://goo.gl/maps/jAFngpCzmGS2).
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Updated!
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Where can I actually view this project?
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Where can I actually view this project?
GB's stuff is collected here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,25196.msg867161.html#msg867161). And Neobie...look for his posts that have attachments.
It would probably be easier if "historians" could work with Peach to move their collections to page 1 of the thread and update as necessary. :please:
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It would probably be easier if "historians" could work with Peach to move their collections to page 1 of the thread and update as necessary. :please:
I would like that as well, but I'm not sure it's possible without making a whole new thread...
Regarding collecting things, could someone collect Neobie's stuff even if it's not Neobie? I've been asked if I can incorporate some of his stuff into the wiki, but it's kind of spread all over the place. :didimiss:
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Go to Neobies Profile, click see posts, then you can copy paste what you need. That is the only way I could do it either without moving all his posts to a separate thread, which would make us lose the continuity.
If you need me to do something, please PM me EXACTLY what you want and I will try.
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Ah, I didn't realize I could click to see just the threads he started. That simplifies things a whole lot.
The original request (by theschnauzers), asks me if I can add in Neobie's maps "From 1-19". But I only see 15, 17 and 19-25. Sorry if I'm totally blind to something ^_^;
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Lets see what Neobie says. :tup:
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Added the second season of the Chinese version, also known as "Jisu Qianjin".
Google Earth's depiction of Chengdu in China is massively screwed up. If you see anything wrong there, please tell me. Check either our wiki or the Chinese Wikipedia to get an idea of where they had to go.
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Definitely not as comprehensive as GB's (which includes foreign versions as well as some task information), but I am very confident about the locations for TAR 8-9 and 12-26, cross-referencing against GB's locations and finding some of the more obscure locations along the way (the Thailand cricket-eating Fast Forward in TAR 9, for example; stupid Phil gave the wrong distance and made me search up and down in Lopburi).
I'm slowly working my way to fill in the other seasons!
Since it doesn't add up to be very big I've put all the seasons on the same file.
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Hi Neobie,
We're actually referring to your maps. The images you make with lines and points drawn on them. I think some people were suggesting you had maps for almost all of the seasons, but not all of them are here. Are we mistaken?
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Would the wiki be able to host the map files on a permanent basis? That might be a more practical solution than keeping them in the forum. Peach could just write a sticky with a link to the files, and I could write a post on using kml/kmz/gpx files.
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My own desire is to avoid duplicates for any one season and download the rest to use with Google Earth/Google Earth Pro. I could never be sure which files to download. At a minimum it might be useful to edit the OP to include the links to the specific posts that have the most current files for particular seasons, that for me would work as well until there is a comprehensive file for the US and for the regional editions.
I do know we have an earlier compilation (and I helped place the season three start point in the Everglades, which was insane because the area had been developed greatly between 2002 and 2012 when we were searching. I at least had managed at TARcon 3 to confirm the area of that start with Drew Riker, since we, as having been former residents of Miami could refer to the area the way the locals did. I'm preety sure I still have the old kmz file on the other notebook, but I may post it if I can find it and if it would be of any value. I also recall trying to help to locate a pit stop in northern Thailand in a rural hamlet that was extremely hard to find.
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Added the fourth Vietnam Race. (Yay Laos!)
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Added TAR27
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:cmas26 Awesome!
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Added TAR28
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Added TAR Vietnam 2016 (All-Stars)
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Added Canada 4~
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Added the third Chinese season, AKA Jisu Qianjin (Olympics version)
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Also added HaMerotz LaMillion 5
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Added TAR Asia 5 to Page 2
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Added TAR29. Page 2 as always.
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Added TAR Canada 5
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Trying to upload TAR China 4, but I keep running into problems... For some reason it keeps ending up as an empty KMZ file after upload.
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I'm almost done getting the exact locations for TAR6 (that glacier in Iceland and the "elephant polo field" in Sri Lanka were a HUGE pain to find), but now I'm stuck in American territory!
Kris/Jon picked a Detour in Honolulu that sent them to a Hilo Hattie warehouse, but Hilo Hattie has gone bankrupt twice since 2004 and I still haven't been able to find the exact location! Can anyone identify the taller building in the background on the right? That could narrow the search down!
Other notes: Phil says the warehouse is 10mi from the Tantalus Lookout, but his distances can sometimes be way off the mark.
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Found it! It's on Pahounui Dr and Sand Island Access Rd.
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Thanks to the efforts of GB, Nickf21, and Wcpamotm, I was able to piece together this almost complete dataset for TAR6!
Among the new additions:
- Lews Village near Lalibela, where teams chose to transport a roof or put mud on a wall (DT: raise the roof/mud the hut). This was identifiable by a power line running along the road from the airport, and the slope running down on the left hand side.
- Mahinda College Cricket Ground in Galle, where Freddy/Kendra played elephant polo (DT: elephant trunks). Identifiable in Street View.
- Yangpu Longjiang Vegetable Market in Shanghai, where nobody chose to transport ice from the fish market (DT: ice). Identifiable in Street View.
- Hafei Service Center in Xi'an, where teams spray painted a car (DT: spray). There was a shot with the address written in Chinese on the show.
- Hilo Hattie warehouse, where Kris/Jon searched for Hawaiian clothing to match a model (DT: outfits). Identifiable in Street View.
I'm not sure about the Detour option in Xi'an no one chose (DT: scroll), which Wikipedia shows as "Xi'an Tang Du Factory" but which I haven't been able to cross-reference. Does anyone have more context?
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And here's TAR5! Here are the challenging ones to find:
- Pigeon House Farm in Luxor, where Colin/Christie and Brandon/Nicole used a shaduf to bring water out of the Nile. Contrary to what Phil said, this option was actually further from the other side of the Detour, where teams had to get to (the old) Banana Island and bring sheep across the river. (There's now a new Banana Island, which caused me a lot of confusion.)
- Kibaoni in Tanzania, the Roadblock where teams had to eat an ostrich egg. There were some editing shenanigans here: teams must have been transported between sites; the distances are too large for running.
- Kripamayee Kali Temple in Kolkata, the Fast Forward where Brandon/Nicole refused to shave their heads. Wcpamotm had the right name, but the coordinates on Wikipedia were wrong and pointed to the larger Dakshineswar Kali Temple instead.
- Globe Brick Factory in Kolkata, the Roadblock where teams had to make bricks (Colin: "I'm packing it!"). A sign shown on-screen said it was in Ramchandrapur; from there it's a matter of finding the factory chimney.
- Malagueña Motors in Cavite, where Chip/Kim yielded Colin/Christie. There's a telecommunications tower nearby; finding it would help you find the jeepney shop on Street View.
- The field where Colin's ox was broken, on a rural road in San Benito. It's 4.2km/2.6mi from where teams got off their jeepneys, so the producers must have transported them in.
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This is Europe:
(https://i.imgur.com/ApkGyEX.jpg)
This is Europe on TAR:
(https://i.imgur.com/E90BRQr.jpg)
Any questions? ;)
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wow!
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I read this thread before I went back and rewatched every season, and I noticed that only the Pitstops from the American seasons were covered. I'm not a pro at this like Neobie, and many of these seasons aren't in English, but I tried to be as precise as possible There are a few that aren't correct, ranging from a few yards to...having no clue (help would be appreciated, especially with HaMerotz LaMillion's Finish Line.), so I put in parentheses in the names of those that I know aren't perfect a short description of how off they are. So here are the Pitstops from the International Versions for anyone who's interested.
Coming back to HaMerotz LaMillion 1, do we have an idea on where the finish line might be? Wikipedia says Black Rock Valley but I have no idea where that name came from.
The aerial shots show the helicopters flying north past Moke Lake near Queenstown, but the mountains in the area don't match the much lower hills at the finish line. The shadows suggest the teams pushed the globes east toward the finish line, but other than that I don't have much to go on...
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Thanks GB, Wcpamotm, Nickf21, and others for a great job! I managed to build upon these to precisely locate (almost) all the locations visited on the US version, including:
- The tea shop in Paris where Kevin/Drew got one of the earliest Fast Forwards (TAR 1)
- The Detour in Mexico where Heather/Eve fell off their donkey (TAR 3)
- The field in Kerala where Tian had trouble holding on to a bull (TAR 4)
- The ox-is-broken fields in both TAR 5 and TAR 25 (nowhere near each other!)
- The temple in Jodhpur where Joyce had her head shaved (TAR 7)
- The factory in Macau where teams had to flatten noodles by sitting on a bamboo pole (TAR 11)
- The arena in Bolivia where teams wrestled with the luchadoras (TAR 13)
- The dock in Guilin where teams fished with comorants (TAR 14)
- The wise man in Varanasi which Ron had trouble finding (TAR 18)
- The temple where Mark/Bopper painted tigers on their bellies (TAR 20)
- The wedding venue in Agra serving as the Pit Stop (TAR 27)
- The beach in Cartagena where teams grilled fish and built shelters (TAR 28)
- The workshop in Dar es Salaam where Brooke had trouble making a ladle (TAR 29)
There are still about a dozen places I still can't locate, many of them in the middle of the desert. Some remaining unknowns are:
- Xau Xarra in Botswana where Brian/Greg crashed their car, and the subsequent Pit Stop in Makgadikgadi Pans (TAR 7)
- The plantation in Te Puke where teams crushed kiwis with their feet (TAR 13)
- The arena in Surabaya where Travis/Nicole coaxed a bird to sing (TAR 23)
If you guys can help me with these (marked as "approx" or "spec"), that'd be awesome!
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The finish line of TAR-Israel-1 was 2-3 hours drive from Auckland.
Because of budget issues, the planned final (rumors where - London) was shifted back to NZ with just 2 tasks.
I need to see the episode again in order to find the exact location – Is it available on youtube?
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The finish line of TAR-Israel-1 was 2-3 hours drive from Auckland.
Because of budget issues, the planned final (rumors where - London) was shifted back to NZ with just 2 tasks.
I need to see the episode again in order to find the exact location – Is it available on youtube?
Thanks SO much!! I'll message you.
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As a lover of maps this thread is very cool! I google mapped TAR Canada 7 - https://www.google.com/maps/placelists/list/oIr0QxlJEAnTQ5O3QrnhpU13aUw_nA?hl=en
I’ll have to figure out how to add to Google Earth with labels on roadblocks, detours, pitstops, etc
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The latest version of Google Earth has been so optimized on IPad with the iOS 13 that I finally feel brave enough to download the kHz files without overlapping locations from the same race. At this point is there a current index of the files to avoid any duplicate entries?
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Thanks Ran and Michal! Any clues that can help to narrow it down would be useful!
Does anyone want to try their hand at figuring out these two TAR Asia locations?
In TAR Asia 1 (filmed in 2006), teams were driven from Dubai to "Margham Desert Camp", turning right off the road into the desert. Not much to go on, except the road is a two-lane one, meaning it's most likely the road from Highway E66 through Margham to Nazwa, rather than a main highway.
In TAR Asia 3 (filmed in 2008), teams had to drive to "Wadi Tanuf in al-Jabal al-Akhdar". The directions given by production probably weren't very good, because everyone became hopelessly lost. Ida/Tanya checked in first at 5.42pm, meaning the shot of them at the Pit Stop is facing south. However, I can't find any view that matches in the area. Would you guys have better luck?
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Neobie, I'm in the (slow) process of fixing up my KMZs to match your wonderful, excellent work. I'm on TAR3, and I was wondering if you could explain your reasoning for the airfield on Leg 1 in Mexico. The show calls it the Tequesquitengo Airfield, which Wikipedia points to being the same one that I have marked over in nearby San José Vista Hermosa, just a skip away from Tequesquitengo itself.
Not that I don't trust you or anything, lol, but I was wondering if you'd be able to show your work on that one?
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Coming back to HaMerotz LaMillion 1, do we have an idea on where the finish line might be? Wikipedia says Black Rock Valley but I have no idea where that name came from.
In the opening of the final episode, Raz introduces himself at the finish line and says "זהו עמק הסלע השחור", meaning "This is the Black Rock Valley".
I found a "Black Rock Settlement Road" in Otago, New Zealand located here... (https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Maunsells+Dip+Road,+Lee+Flat+9074,+New+Zealand/@-45.7752972,169.952922,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0xa82c75f40bcd0a25:0xf3404c939289824a!8m2!3d-45.7718897!4d169.9748306) It's over 100km away from where the helicopters took off from (Assuming they actually took off from Nevis Valley and there wasn't some editing trickery). You're a lot better at visually matching up landscapes than I am, but looking at a satellite view does show rolling green fields that somewhat match the location of the final task.
And speaking of HaMerotz LaMillion, Michal & Ran if you're still around, do you recall any information about the forest you visited while in Japan. It was after taking the train out of Tokyo, and it's where the Roadblock took place (The one where Ran had to pass the guards in a certain sequence). We still only have that listed as "Forest" and it bugs me.
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I'm on TAR3, and I was wondering if you could explain your reasoning for the airfield on Leg 1 in Mexico.
No problem!
We start by working backwards from the skydive landing zone at the end of the Detour. The area has changed over the years, but if we roll back Google Earth as far as you can go to 2005, there's a match to a football field in Xochitepec.
That raises some questions. Phil says that the donkey course was 7 miles, but Tequesquitengo is 13 miles by road from the landing zone. It's possible that Phil has got his maths wrong (this happens a lot) or teams choosing the donkeys finished somewhere else (we never actually see them finish on the episode), but that places some doubt on the Detour starting in Tequesquitengo.
Another complication: the episode shows the skydive plane taking off against a backdrop of low hills, but the San José Vista Hermosa airfield is surrounded by flat land. So we need to hunt around for alternatives.
We find that in Chiconcuac, which is 3 miles away from the landing zone by road. The hills to the west match the episode, and more conclusively, Heather and Eve get dumped by their donkey exactly where we expect them to, at the entrance to the airfield.
Thanks GB, I was so focused on the end of the episode in HaMerotz LaMillion that I never bothered to examine the start! Michal/Ran, do you have any other clues for us, like which direction from Auckland you guys travelled for the Finish Line?
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Sounds good. I'll add it to all the edits that I'm re-doing after I got all the way to TAR17 and my motherboard fried, so I had to start all over again. :Y
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Neobie, I think you've made a mistake. Your file for TAR21-31 only has TAR21 on it, and nothing else. I notice now that the filesize is a lot smaller on it, lol
ALSO: I finally got around to updating the BIG LIST on Page 2 with the more recent seasons (30, 31, IS6, IS7, AU4, CN6, CN7 and VN6)
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Thanks, I've fixed the links on the original post (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,25196.msg1265158.html#msg1265158)!
Also fixed the Brussels train station for TAR 19; thanks for the heads-up!
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What's the significance of Grantfield Garage to the 'Light My Fire' Detour in Lerwick? (TAR25)
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If I remember correctly that's where some of the teams parked their cars after picking up their supplies.
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Nice job on the Agra legs in TAR27. I remember those ones giving me the biggest headache when the episode first came out. Nothing was named, and nothing was listed on Google. Looks like I got pretty much everything wrong, but it's right now!
I checked some pictures and images of the lines painted on the street outside, and I'm like 90% sure my marker for Rustaveli Theatre is correct as opposed to the new one you put down.
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Added TAR Israel 8
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Added TAR32
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TAR Australia 5 added
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I’m unable to access any of the files
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I’m unable to access any of the files
They seem to work just fine for me.
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This season wasn't too hard for locations, waiting to see how this matches up with GB's!
If anyone wants a challenge we can go back to the ones I've marked as "spec" or "approx" and find those specific locations!
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Added TAR33 (Haven't looked at Neobie's yet)
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Great job GB! Our maps mostly line up, with these minor differences:
- Phil said the darts in London were in Flight Club Victoria, but the exterior and interior actually match up with Flight Club Shoreditch.
- The promo photos of the Speedbump in St Gallen match up with the topography in Altstätten (https://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,37131.msg1305077.html#msg1305077).
- Slowhatch found the locations for Cafe Jasmine and Ouzeri Tsinari Cafe here (https://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,37131.msg1306765.html#msg1306765), in the Upper Town.
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Added TARC8 and TARAu6
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Hi TAR mappers! Long time reader, first time poster. I so greatly appreciate your work and use it to follow along when I watch the show.
I was curious about the start line of season 2. The consensus seems to be it was on the California side of the line from Pahrump, though the show and other generic online location sources only seem to generically mention Nevada or Pahrump.
My attempt to search the forum for any specific discussion about this location was unsuccessful, so I was just curious how it was determined. It certainly appears legitimate based on satellite imagery, but curious minds want to know.
Thanks in advance!
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Welcome actionjacksonwx! :bigwelcome
I have reached out to Neobie and GB either who hopefully can help!
GB's the RFF Wiki may have the info as well
Reality Fan Wiki (https://realityfanwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page)
Anyone else? If we don't have the info I'll ask a racer, just let me know!
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That was all Neobie. I took it from his KMZ's
https://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,25196.msg1265158.html#msg1265158
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Hi actionjacksonwx! Phil does mention Pahrump at the start of the show (and teams pass through in their cars getting to Las Vegas), so that's where most online sources got their information. However, the start line was actually on the salt flats (no vegetation, even scrub), which Google Maps shows to be located entirely on the California side.
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Thanks for the warm welcome! And thanks Neobie for the explanation. While there is plenty of desert on the NV side, it didn't occur to me there were no large areas without scrub. And now that I'm looking at the most southwestern available street view on the NV side (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0645471,-115.9748406,3a,42.8y,194.26h,92.46t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s2ay2kAiJvdN48wPy8VPdxw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D2ay2kAiJvdN48wPy8VPdxw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D51.14904%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656), I can indeed match the profile of the mountains to Phil's background (https://ibb.co/hdT6xY9) in the introduction. Not that I doubted before, but internally I am more confident now. :jam:
I just wish he wouldn't have muddled things by saying "in southern Nevada".
Thanks again, and take care!
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Thanks for the warm welcome! And thanks Neobie for the explanation. While there is plenty of desert on the NV side, it didn't occur to me there were no large areas without scrub. And now that I'm looking at the most southwestern available street view on the NV side (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0645471,-115.9748406,3a,42.8y,194.26h,92.46t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s2ay2kAiJvdN48wPy8VPdxw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D2ay2kAiJvdN48wPy8VPdxw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D51.14904%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656), I can indeed match the profile of the mountains to Phil's background (https://ibb.co/hdT6xY9) in the introduction. Not that I doubted before, but internally I am more confident now. :jam:
I just wish he wouldn't have muddled things by saying "in southern Nevada".
Thanks again, and take care!
Glad we could help! And with your expertise I hope you'll stick around and help us next time!
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For the pitstop of TAR 11.2 in Valle de la Muerte/Valley of the Dead, there is an image geotagged on Google (https://www.google.com/maps/@-22.902788,-68.2425109,3a,75y,191.21h,90t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipMCyxAVmZg3FCRln_nPsGw6KTfC0eBPcQ51-OpK!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMCyxAVmZg3FCRln_nPsGw6KTfC0eBPcQ51-OpK%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya58.341866-ro-0-fo100!7i11264!8i5632) that helps pin down a more precise location.
The image linked above is just a short distance west-southwest of the mat location. Note the terrain background and downhill view when the camera is pointed from Phil's viewing angle, the mat is near a slight curve to the left (for cars going west), and the expansive dune area at the edge of which the cars parked. I'd estimate the mat to be roughly near -22.9022,-68.2416
Facing west, a sign in the linked image indicating that no vehicle traffic can continue beyond that point perhaps explains why they had to use the eastern entrance.