ONE TEAM IS FORCED TO PLAY CATCH UP IN ORDER TO STAY IN THE GAME AFTER MAKING A COLOSSAL MISTAKE AT THE START OF THE LEG, ON “THE AMAZING RACE,” SUNDAY, NOV. 14
“Ali Baba in a Suit” (Muscat, Oman) — Following a huge mistake, one Racer makes an important decision that will impact their team beyond the finish line and for the rest of their lives, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, Nov. 14 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Phil Keoghan is host.
Woden's TIMELINE SUMMARY:
EP08: St. Petersburg, Russia to Oman
EVIDENCE: TV Guide confirmation (Source (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23562.msg570054.html#msg570054)), sighting of teams in Muscat Airport on evening of June 9 looking for flights to Bangladesh (Source 1 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21997.msg527366.html#msg527366)), (Source 2 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21997.msg527374.html#msg527374)), (Source 3 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21997.msg527384.html#msg527384)), Jill/Thomas possibly on 9W 539 from Muscat to Mumbai (DEP: 12:35am 6/9, ARR: 4:35am 6/9) connecting to 9W 276 from Mumbai to Dhaka (DEP: 9:30am, ARR 1:03pm), F/F team possibly on QR 169 (DEP: 11:36pm, ARR 11:48pm 6/8) connecting to UNKNOWN flight (Source (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21997.msg527502.html#msg527502))
Film Date: JUNE 8-9 Air Date: NOV 14
Leg Route/Tasks: ROUTE INFO: Fly to Muscat, Oman and climb steps to Portuguese Watchtower EVIDENCE: Promo (Source (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23562.msg571528.html#msg571528)), photo ID (Source (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23562.msg571537.html#msg571537))
ROUTE INFO: Drive yourselves to Jebel Shams? EVIDENCE: Self driving in promo (Source (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23562.msg571437.html#msg571437))
ROADBLOCK: Rappelling at Jebel Shams; find oil lamp with ring EVIDENCE: Promo (Source (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23562.msg571528.html#msg571528)), photo ID (Source (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23562.msg572589.html#msg572589)) PERFORMED BY: Kat, Jill, Vicki, Chad TIMING INFO: Chad, Jill performing task simultaneously (Source (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23562.msg572510.html#msg572510))
OTHER INFO: Tasks at or near Blue Mosque, Al Qubrah Mosque? EVIDENCE: Promo after EP07 (Source (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23562.msg571437.html#msg571437)), photo ID (Source (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23562.msg571439.html#msg571439)), second promo (Source (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23562.msg571528.html#msg571528))
Safe from Elimination at End of Leg: Brook/Claire: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21996.msg527628.html#msg527628)), (Source 2 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21997.msg527732.html#msg527732)), (Source 3 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21997.msg527795.html#msg527795)) Nat/Kat: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21997.msg527732.html#msg527732)), (Source 2 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21997.msg527795.html#msg527795)) Jill/Thomas: POSSIBLY spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21997.msg527732.html#msg527732)), (Source 2 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21997.msg527795.html#msg527795)) Nick/Vicki: POSSIBLE sighting in Hong Kong (6/12), likely sighting as decoys on flight to LAX (Source 1 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21997.msg569919.html#msg569919))
Possibly Eliminated: Stephanie/Chad: No evidence of sightings from this point on Gary/Mallory: Not seen since flight to St Petersburg 6/5
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8
Post by: georgiapeach on October 24, 2010, 12:40:49 AM
PREVIEW!!Thanks TL!! :hearts:
PROMO! click on thru to YouTube
PROMO 2 click on thru to YouTube
Sports Promo aired 11/13
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8
Post by: georgiapeach on October 24, 2010, 12:41:13 AM
*saved*
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8
Post by: georgiapeach on October 24, 2010, 12:42:04 AM
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Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Kaylynn on October 28, 2010, 10:04:10 PM
I definetly think its in Oman.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Belle Book on October 29, 2010, 10:06:55 AM
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: theschnauzers on October 30, 2010, 12:49:53 PM
We now have confirmation that it is Oman. The episode description on my channel guide says "The Race continues in Oman."
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 30, 2010, 03:41:31 PM
Thanks so much!!
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Paron on November 02, 2010, 05:32:28 PM
Since the F6 has never gone beyond leg eight (though hey, if they could make a change with how far they took the F7, there's always a chance for a change here), I think this leg will be the F6 elimination leg.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Belle Book on November 02, 2010, 06:12:14 PM
Since the F6 has never gone beyond leg eight (though hey, if they could make a change with how far they took the F7, there's always a chance for a change here), I think this leg will be the F6 elimination leg.
Yeah, I'm thinking along similar lines. If there's a leg in Bangladesh before the Hong Kong and South Korea legs, I'm thinking that Oman's the F6 elimination, Bangladesh is the F5 elimination, Hong Kong is the final NEL and South Korea is where Nick & Vicki meet their fate.
Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 05, 2010, 04:53:10 PM
I just can't get over the fact Nick and Vicki make it to the Top4...I really dislike them as racers, just terrible! Glad Oman is the destination, very varied places this season!
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 05, 2010, 04:55:05 PM
The title of this episode could refer to a business-like task. Ali Baba, as you probably know, is a fictional character. Oman has no shortage of industry and business areas (or deserts).
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Levi Rinno on November 05, 2010, 06:54:44 PM
I just can't get over the fact Nick and Vicki make it to the Top4...I really dislike them as racers, just terrible! Glad Oman is the destination, very varied places this season!
I can stand their bad racing for a reason I couldn't stand Andrew & Dan or Brian & Ericka's bad racing -- they're at least self-aware about how their skills pale in comparison to most of the other teams' and know they're not the best ones there, but still willing to try their best to beat them. Compared to the other two teams, who were truly deluded about their abilities (or lack thereof) and that they were the best teams of their seasons.
So, so, so excited to hear about Oman! They haven't been there since season nine, correct?
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 05, 2010, 06:58:24 PM
I can stand their bad racing for a reason I couldn't stand Andrew & Dan or Brian & Ericka's bad racing -- they're at least self-aware about how their skills pale in comparison to most of the other teams' and know they're not the best ones there, but still willing to try their best to beat them. Compared to the other two teams, who were truly deluded about their abilities (or lack thereof) and that they were the best teams of their seasons.
So, so, so excited to hear about Oman! They haven't been there since season nine, correct?
Yes, that was the site of the famous Camel detour and B.J. and Tyler's frustration. That should be the Switchback if there is one.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: DrRox on November 05, 2010, 08:44:53 PM
Yes, that was the site of the famous Camel detour and B.J. and Tyler's frustration. That should be the Switchback if there is one.
Could you refresh our memories concerning this famous camel detour that frustrated BJ and Tyler?
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Zack. on November 05, 2010, 09:56:12 PM
BJ/Tyler got frustrated at that episode's RB. In a field with over 100 underground ovens, teams had to find an oven that had food buried inside (said food would become their dinner for the night :lol: ). BJ/Tyler arrived first or second, but departed in last, during which the food and stress of the task caused them to have a rare argument.
I don't think it's notable enough for a Switchback, but I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a task in the desert again.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: DrRox on November 05, 2010, 09:59:02 PM
BJ/Tyler got frustrated at that episode's RB. In a field with over 100 underground ovens, teams had to find an oven that had food buried inside (said food would become their dinner for the night :lol: ). BJ/Tyler arrived first or second, but departed in last, during which the food and stress of the task caused them to have a rare argument.
I don't think it's notable enough for a Switchback, but I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a task in the desert again.
Thank you Zack, but I was hoping the_pr0phet would give us HIS account.....since he mentined it.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Dånooky on November 05, 2010, 10:08:49 PM
In the Camel Detour, teams had to lift a camel into a pickup truck using a winch. Funny, I had completely forgotten about it until I re-checked Wikipedia. Doesn't look like a memorable task though :/
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: theschnauzers on November 06, 2010, 12:14:28 AM
That was the leg with two tasks with camels. The camels were on the sidelines snarking at the teams during the roadblock. Speaking of which we are way overdue another camel cameo, we haven't had one of those in a few seasons.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Dånooky on November 06, 2010, 12:16:00 AM
That was the leg with two tasks with camels. The camels were on the sidelines snarking at the teams during the roadblock. Speaking of which we are way overdue another camel cameo, we haven't had one of those in a few seasons.
My impression is that Season 17 is Bear season
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 06, 2010, 07:59:42 AM
That was the leg with two tasks with camels. The camels were on the sidelines snarking at the teams during the roadblock. Speaking of which we are way overdue another camel cameo, we haven't had one of those in a few seasons.
That's what I really remembered more than anything else. I had forgotten that there was a RB and a detour choice involving a camel. We are overdue a camel cameo though. That leg was the first time BJ and Tyler came in last on a NEL. They managed to do it again and still win the final.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 06, 2010, 01:45:54 PM
Back to topic please? :res:
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: krabbe on November 07, 2010, 11:32:13 AM
So if Jill/Thomas weren't exaggerating to the guy in Muscat airport (they told him they'd lose if they couldn't get a flight to Bangladesh within 8 hours), does this mean they came in 2nd to last in the 2nd Russian leg? Or am I simplifying things?
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 07, 2010, 01:56:38 PM
So if Jill/Thomas weren't exaggerating to the guy in Muscat airport (they told him they'd lose if they couldn't get a flight to Bangladesh within 8 hours), does this mean they came in 2nd to last in the 2nd Russian leg? Or am I simplifying things?
According to my speculation they may finish in the bottom half in episode 7. However there is a whole leg between that one and the flight to Bangladesh.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: apskip on November 07, 2010, 09:28:39 PM
I think the sleeping-in incident is a classic red herring, typical of a misdirection play by World Race Productions. The teams would have checked in on or before noon at Peter and Paul Monument bastion pit stop. They appear to be released in the daytime, so they could get either a 24 hour or 18 hour pit stop. that would release them + or - noon if a 24 hou8r pit stop. Flight possibilities from St. Petersburg to Muscat all connect in either SVO or DME airports in Moscow. here are the schedules to stay even:
leg 7 6/7 St. Petersburg to Muscat: LED SVO Aeroflot or Rossiya hourly connecting to SU519 SVO DXB 2018 0103+1 connecting to EK866 DXB MCT 0253+1 0348+1 or LED DME S7 Airlines or Rossiya hourly connecting to EK134 DME DXB 1745 2244 connecting to EK866 DXB MCT 0253+1 0348+1 or
So, as long as teams get to LED airport in St. Petersburg before about 5pm for a one hour flight to Moscow they should still be able to make the later connecting flight to Dubai and then from there to Muscat.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: DrRox on November 07, 2010, 09:38:04 PM
On June 7th, 2010 in St. Petersburg, sunrise was at 0441.....Russian White Nights....
Sunset on June 6th, 2010 was 1141 pm.....or 2341....almost midnight.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 07, 2010, 10:04:19 PM
preview up in post #2!! caps to follow in a bit...
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: redskevin88 on November 07, 2010, 11:16:33 PM
BJ/Tyler got frustrated at that episode's RB. In a field with over 100 underground ovens, teams had to find an oven that had food buried inside (said food would become their dinner for the night :lol: ). BJ/Tyler arrived first or second, but departed in last, during which the food and stress of the task caused them to have a rare argument.
I don't think it's notable enough for a Switchback, but I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a task in the desert again.
What if one team had quit the roadblock, would they have had no dinner? or if there had been a fast-forward and somebody took it?
PS: I would love to see it, can u pm me the link
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: guacamole300 on November 08, 2010, 12:10:37 AM
it doesn't look so much like daytime to me when they're released... it looks more like sunrise or sunset
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 08, 2010, 01:43:00 AM
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Cocoa on November 08, 2010, 02:02:49 AM
The mosque in 10-11 is in Mutrah, Oman. It is the Al Lawatiya Mosque (the 'Blue Mosque')
From Virtual Tourist:
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Al-Lawatiya Mosque (Mosque of the great prophet) is located in the beautiful sea front promenade in Mutrah. The blue minaret dominates the skyline of Mutrah. And the top of the minaret is illuminated in the nights. You can hear the prayer on the top of the minaret several times a day.
Address: Al Bahri Road Directions: GPS coordinate: 23° 37' 16.9800" N 58° 33' 45.0500" E
So if Jill/Thomas weren't exaggerating to the guy in Muscat airport (they told him they'd lose if they couldn't get a flight to Bangladesh within 8 hours), does this mean they came in 2nd to last in the 2nd Russian leg? Or am I simplifying things?
According to my speculation they may finish in the bottom half in episode 7. However there is a whole leg between that one and the flight to Bangladesh.
Whoops, just noticed I put in 2nd Russian leg. I meant they came in 2nd to last (barely eliminated) in the Oman leg, hence trailing behind on the way to Bangladesh.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 08, 2010, 07:34:03 AM
All I got out of that preview is what we already know, either C/S or G/M will be eliminated in Oman. Then Bangladesh may or may not be a NEL. Any other thoughts? I still lean towards C/S being eliminated before G/M.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Levi Rinno on November 08, 2010, 12:11:22 PM
All I got out of that preview is what we already know, either C/S or G/M will be eliminated in Oman. Then Bangladesh may or may not be a NEL. Any other thoughts? I still lean towards C/S being eliminated before G/M.
If it's no misdirection and Chad & Stephanie do turn out to be MIA at the start of the next leg and miss the flight to Oman, then I agree. I think Gary & Mallory will struggle on the leg, but not suffer all that much.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Plaidmoon on November 08, 2010, 12:14:36 PM
Is it possible to get a look at 14 & 15 in HD to read the green road sign?
It looks to me like it's in Arabic, so it may be tough to translate since you won't be able to cut and paste.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 08, 2010, 12:44:01 PM
New promo up!! WOW!!
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 08, 2010, 12:51:32 PM
:wohoo:
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 08, 2010, 12:56:29 PM
Why does it say "another team" as if one slept in and another proposes when we know both are the same team?
Some quick observations:
The opening shot is the Sultan Qaboos Grand Mosque in Muscat.
Brooke is driving at night but the RB is in the day.
The task B/C are doing in that apparently quick moving machine could be the detour. I have a feeling that it could be a FF though because no one else is shown doing it and they are not shown doing anything else.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 08, 2010, 01:15:52 PM
I don't tend to believe the "sleeping in" bit, and it's hard to tell whether C\S are eliminated or not. Chad did say he would propose on the race, but if they were suddenly eliminated, he would have to hurry it up. It's hard to tell.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: DrRox on November 08, 2010, 01:54:00 PM
Its a repeat of TAR 9 Oman leg in this promo.....fly into Oman....drive to Riyam Park in Muttah. That is where Chad proposes at sunup. That proposal shot is due North with sun coming up in the east. That's why the other teams are present, they are waiting for the HoO at the Great Insense Burner old Portuguese Watch Tower. The steps they are climbing are the steps up to the Incense Burnerold Portuguese Watch Tower.......same start in TAR 9.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 08, 2010, 02:02:21 PM
It appears that teams drive themselves to the park from the airport in the night and wait for the park to open. Chad proposing during that time makes a lot of sense and the sleeping in looks overplayed by the promos.
Any thoughts on the location of that other task?
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 08, 2010, 02:15:35 PM
Here are some prelim caps till I can download this later on...
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 08, 2010, 02:22:18 PM
Here are some identifications: cap 2=Brooke, Claire, Nat caps 3&4=Jill, Thomas, Chad, Stephanie cap 5=Kat cap 6=Mallory cap 7=Jill, Thomas caps 8&9=Chad, Stephanie
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Dånooky on November 08, 2010, 02:27:25 PM
so Chad doesn't wait for Phil to bless their engagement!?
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: DrRox on November 08, 2010, 02:33:22 PM
Well they are not using the Great Incense Burner for the route info.....they are using the old Portuguese Watch Tower across the highway from it. Its still in Riyam Park. Screencaps 3 and 4. You can see the Great Incense Burner in #3.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 08, 2010, 02:36:53 PM
Well they are not using the Great Incense Burner for the route info.....they are using the old Portuguese Watch Tower across the highway from it. Its still in Riyam Park. Screencaps 3 and 4. You can see the Great Incense Burner in #3.
Great work Dr. I wonder if they don't have to wait for the Incense Burner to open because only J/T and C/S are seen there at that time. The HoO hurdle may be somewhere else in the park or before it.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 08, 2010, 02:40:51 PM
I wonder if they don't have to wait for the Incense Burner to open because only J/T and C/S are seen there at that time. The HoO hurdle may be somewhere else in the park or before it.
Looks like Thomas, Chad, Nat Jill and Gary Stephanie starting the climb in #3.
One would think Chad would propose at the PS, but obviously not.
Looking at the promo, it seemed like all the other teams were sitting on that seawall, with the girls going "Awwww," when Chad proposes. He had an audience. It's a neat spot.....Exotic and Romantic.....Arabia at Sunrise.
Correced the identification with thanks to the_prophet. Lesson to self, do not let 5 year old granddaughter play with my glasses when trying to do photo identification.
It looks like Brooke Jill, Vicki and Nick sitting on the fountain wall, not the seawall, in Riyam Park when Chat proposes. Thanks to Peach for the screencap.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 08, 2010, 04:26:56 PM
I wonder if they don't have to wait for the Incense Burner to open because only J/T and C/S are seen there at that time. The HoO hurdle may be somewhere else in the park or before it.
Looks like Thomas, Chad, Nat and Gary starting the climb in #3.
If this is the one you are referring to, I think the ID's are like so. You can see that those two teams are dressed in those outfits from #7 and #8. Also from #5 Kat does the rappelling for them.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: theschnauzers on November 08, 2010, 04:33:18 PM
Here's an updated episode description as provided by CBS (posted at The Futon Critic):
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ONE TEAM IS FORCED TO PLAY CATCH UP IN ORDER TO STAY IN THE GAME AFTER MAKING A COLOSSAL MISTAKE AT THE START OF THE LEG, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, NOV. 14
"Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman) - Following a huge mistake, one Racer makes an important decision that will impact their team beyond the finish line and for the rest of their lives, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, Nov. 14 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Phil Keoghan is host.
Read more: Listings - AMAZING RACE, THE on CBS | TheFutonCritic.com http://www.thefutoncritic.com/listings.aspx?id=20101108cbs12#ixzz14jV3pwAG
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 08, 2010, 04:37:24 PM
Here's an updated episode description as provided by CBS (posted at The Futon Critic):
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ONE TEAM IS FORCED TO PLAY CATCH UP IN ORDER TO STAY IN THE GAME AFTER MAKING A COLOSSAL MISTAKE AT THE START OF THE LEG, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, NOV. 14
"Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman) - Following a huge mistake, one Racer makes an important decision that will impact their team beyond the finish line and for the rest of their lives, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, Nov. 14 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Phil Keoghan is host.
Read more: Listings - AMAZING RACE, THE on CBS | TheFutonCritic.com http://www.thefutoncritic.com/listings.aspx?id=20101108cbs12#ixzz14jV3pwAG
Once again that sounds like Chad and Stephanie. It seems like we are getting information overload about them. However, that statement may just be a reiteration of what we already know (about the sleeping and the proposal).
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: NumfarPTB on November 08, 2010, 05:17:05 PM
Why does it say "another team" as if one slept in and another proposes when we know both are the same team? Some quick observations:
The opening shot is the Sultan Qaboos Grand Mosque in Muscat. Brooke is driving at night but the RB is in the day.
Possible theory (okay, more like a speculation), teams arrive from flight at night, get clue, but place won't open until morning, but they get to pick numbered order to enter. A team oversleeps and miss their starting slot, which might be the huge mistake described in the synopsis.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: TexasLady on November 08, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Why does it say "another team" as if one slept in and another proposes when we know both are the same team? Some quick observations:
The opening shot is the Sultan Qaboos Grand Mosque in Muscat. Brooke is driving at night but the RB is in the day.
Possible theory (okay, more like a speculation), teams arrive from flight at night, get clue, but place won't open until morning, but they get to pick numbered order to enter. A team oversleeps and miss their starting slot, which might be the huge mistake described in the synopsis.
This certainly sounds plausible.
Welcome to RFF NumfarPTB! :welcome:
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: DrRox on November 08, 2010, 05:53:56 PM
Teams finish Leg 6, Norway to St Petesburg on June 5th in the late evening. After a approx 12 hour pit stop, teams do Leg 7 in St. Petersburg, finishing in early afternoon of June 6,...after another 12 hour pit stop....Teams are released in very early morning (from the screencap in the promo) on June 7th for travel to Muscat, Oman.
As apskip has said, there are hourly flights from LED to either SVO or DME airports in Moscow. The quickest connection from Moscow on June 7th is
DME to DOH QR869 1450-1855 Then DOH to MCT QR168 2015-2235
There is a later connection on the same flight path DME to DOH QR867 2000-0005 (note: on June 7th this flight was 1.5 hours late in taking off and 1 hour 23 minute in arriving in Doha. On this particular date, teams would have had to wait till approx 8 am on June 8th to get the DOH-Muscat connection.
There are other flights from LED to all over the place (SVO, DME, FRA, CDG, etc) that will connect with DXB to MCT (early morning June 8th) EK866 0255-0355.
Even if Chat had overslept...they would still be able to get to Muscat before sunup. I think this leg is pretty fast, with the spoiler sighting of Thomas/Jill in the MCT airport at approx midnight of June8-9 trying for flights to Bangladesh.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: AmazingRace on November 08, 2010, 07:12:30 PM
This looks like their Elimination Confessional(their Russia II confessional is different). But in Oman, Chad was wearing black and Stephanie was wearing grey (unless they changed attire). Does this hint that they make it to Bangladesh at least?
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 08, 2010, 07:16:56 PM
This looks like their Elimination Confessional(their Russia II confessional is different). But in Oman, Chad was wearing black and Stephanie was wearing grey (unless they changed attire). Does this hint that they make it to Bangladesh at least?
I'm not sure; it could. Where did you find this cap, I didn't see that shot in the promo.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: AmazingRace on November 08, 2010, 07:18:51 PM
This was shown after they are checked in(with their bags) in Episode 7.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 08, 2010, 07:27:15 PM
Since two whole teams are seen climbing the stairs at the Incense Burner, I think that the RB clue is at the top. Once they get to the top one team member must rappel down and the other just goes back down the stairs. This fits with the idea that a Route Info clue from the watch tower directed them to the burner.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: TarJunkie999 on November 08, 2010, 08:22:27 PM
:lol: prelim #9 - proposal near Portuguese watchtower
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: DrRox on November 08, 2010, 09:24:50 PM
Since two whole teams are seen climbing the stairs at the Incense Burner, I think that the RB clue is at the top. Once they get to the top one team member must rappel down and the other just goes back down the stairs. This fits with the idea that a Route Info clue from the watch tower directed them to the burner.
They are not climbing the stairs to the Incense Burner. They are climbing the stairs to the Portuguese Watch Tower to get a clue to where to go next, either the detour or RB. That rapelling challenge is not at Riyam Park.
They are climbing the stairs all the way down on the left by the shorter of the two Portuguese Watch Towers. The sidewalk in front of this camera view is where Chad proposes, thanks for the great photo TarJunkie999. The other teams are sitting by the fountain on the right. Car Park is to the far right.
We may have the same thing as in Russia II. They may limit the number of teams that can climb up to the watch tower. Maybe only two teams at a time. One of those pick a number deals when they arrive at Riyam Park.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Zack. on November 08, 2010, 11:05:03 PM
This looks like their Elimination Confessional(their Russia II confessional is different). But in Oman, Chad was wearing black and Stephanie was wearing grey (unless they changed attire). Does this hint that they make it to Bangladesh at least?
But would Chad change into dirty clothing (especially since, as of now, there's no indication of any 'dirty' tasks in Oman)? I think you're right about it being from Bangladesh. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Levi Rinno on November 08, 2010, 11:35:54 PM
This looks like their Elimination Confessional(their Russia II confessional is different). But in Oman, Chad was wearing black and Stephanie was wearing grey (unless they changed attire). Does this hint that they make it to Bangladesh at least?
But would Chad change into dirty clothing (especially since, as of now, there's no indication of any 'dirty' tasks in Oman)? I think you're right about it being from Bangladesh. :tup:
Well, that's unfortunate. I really wanted this next episode to be their final one.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 08, 2010, 11:56:33 PM
This looks like their Elimination Confessional(their Russia II confessional is different). But in Oman, Chad was wearing black and Stephanie was wearing grey (unless they changed attire). Does this hint that they make it to Bangladesh at least?
Can you get a URL for this video now? The bandana that Stephanie has around her neck, she had wrapped around her head when Chad does the proposal thing. It looks like the CBS webmonkeys posted an video one leg to soon. I have looked but I cannot find that video.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 09, 2010, 01:07:27 AM
Here is the clip, but do remember that future confessionals are not infrequently used on TAR.
Whose was it that we saw from the final leg a while back? ??? They are often helpful in pinpointing locations.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: redskevin88 on November 09, 2010, 03:02:04 AM
Do Brooke & Claire get stopped by police?
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 09, 2010, 04:33:03 AM
yes! As Brook says....the PO-Po come!
We don't know why but somehow I am sure they talked their way out of whatever! :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: redskevin88 on November 09, 2010, 06:38:02 AM
We don't know why but somehow I am sure they talked their way out of whatever! :lol3:
Hard too... Arab guys don't kiss kiss with girls, they only kiss men...
huh
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 09, 2010, 07:30:55 AM
The caps I am the most interested in are 5 and 6. Any ideas on what they are in? (Forget my FF idea, Claire is holding a Detour clue.) Maybe #'s 9 and 10 are from the other detour choice.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Coutzy on November 09, 2010, 07:32:06 AM
The caps I am the most interested in are 5 and 6. Any ideas on what they are in? (Forget my FF idea, Claire is holding a Detour clue.)
If I was to hazard a guess, I would say one of the blue trucks seen through the window in those caps.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 09, 2010, 07:37:28 AM
Here are expanded indentifications from the caps: cap 3=Brooke, Claire, Nat, Kat cap 4=Nick, Vicki caps 5&6=Brooke, Claire caps 11&12&13&14=Jill, Thomas, Chad, Stephanie caps 15&16=Kat caps 17&18=Chad cap 21=Brooke cap 22=Brooke, Claire cap 23=Jill, Thomas cap 24=Mallory cap 25=Gary cap 26=Nick, Vicki caps 27&28=Kat cap 31=Chad, Stephanie caps 32&33=Nick, Vicki caps 34&35&37&38&39=Chad, Stephanie
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: milanissimo on November 09, 2010, 09:06:17 AM
Muttrah Fort on Al Barhi Rd
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 09, 2010, 09:17:26 AM
They are not climbing the stairs to the Incense Burner. They are climbing the stairs to the Portuguese Watch Tower to get a clue to where to go next, either the detour or RB. That rapelling challenge is not at Riyam Park.
They are climbing the stairs all the way down on the left by the shorter of the two Portuguese Watch Towers. The sidewalk in front of this camera view is where Chad proposes,. thanks for the great photo TarJunkie999 The other teams are sitting by the fountain on the right. Car Park is to the far right.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 09, 2010, 09:36:50 AM
I have to wonder if that is Brooke in #32 and 33. While driving, at the detour, and in the confessional, she is wearing a black top and cap with a white plastic watch. The person in question here is wearing a pink shirt with a pink bandanna and a yellow watch. Since they are sitting on that wall presumably waiting for HoO this should be before the detour and the confessional and after the "driving and being stopped by cops at night" scene. I am confused. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 09, 2010, 09:40:38 AM
Mallory pic:
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 09, 2010, 09:45:03 AM
Based on this picture from the preview that I adjusted a little, I think that could be Mallory in 32 and 33.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 09, 2010, 09:57:56 AM
Here are expanded indentifications from the caps: cap 3=Brooke, Claire, Nat, Kat cap 4=Nick, Vicki caps 5&6=Brooke, Claire caps 11&12&13&14=Jill, Thomas, Chad, Stephanie caps 15&16=Kat caps 17&18=Mallory cap 21=Brooke cap 22=Brooke, Claire cap 23=Jill, Thomas cap 24=Mallory cap 25=Gary cap 26=Nick, Vicki caps 27&28=Kat cap 31=Chad, Stephanie caps 32&33=Nick, Vicki caps 34&35&37&38&39=Chad, Stephanie
well , pr0phet wrote that : D
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 09, 2010, 01:20:50 PM
Here are expanded indentifications from the caps: cap 3=Brooke, Claire, Nat, Kat cap 4=Nick, Vicki caps 5&6=Brooke, Claire caps 11&12&13&14=Jill, Thomas, Chad, Stephanie caps 15&16=Kat caps 17&18=Mallory cap 21=Brooke cap 22=Brooke, Claire cap 23=Jill, Thomas cap 24=Mallory cap 25=Gary cap 26=Nick, Vicki caps 27&28=Kat cap 31=Chad, Stephanie caps 32&33=Nick, Vicki caps 34&35&37&38&39=Chad, Stephanie
well , pr0phet wrote that : D
I'm sorry, that's a typo. :groan: I never would have mistaken that for Mallory. I think it is Chad because the accompanying audio is him speaking. Thanks for catching that.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 09, 2010, 01:22:41 PM
We've had the worst time with ID's so far on this leg. :-[
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: DrRox on November 09, 2010, 01:24:03 PM
Looking at this pic, I think it is possible that Brooke and Claire might be riding in an ore hauling truck, ie, a huge dumptruck. There are open pit mines in Oman, north of Muscat near Sohar, Oman. I wonder if CBS has fudged out part of the truck in the pic out the window. Sohar is about 120/130 miles from Muscat, but in the same direction as the airport. Sohar has at least one fine hotel, the Crown Plaza for possible pit stop. Also a nice beach resort too. It is Oman's second city according to Wiki. It might only 90 miles from Sohar to the airport. In TAR9 they went south of Muscat, so this time maybe they went north.
Here is a pic of a ore hauling truck. I am not saying it is an ore hauling truck, but just looks like it could be the lower part of the front to me out the window. Something similar to what they changed the tire nuts on in TAR11. There are also mountains in the area where the rapelling task could be done too. Plus it is a good place to hide from us.
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/XRH9r2GiDw8/0.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 09, 2010, 01:27:38 PM
Great work Doc! :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 09, 2010, 01:33:23 PM
Here's a link to a interview with M\K: http://www.realitywanted.com/newsitem/3825-the-amazing-race-17-exclusive-interview-with-michael-and-kevin-wu (http://www.realitywanted.com/newsitem/3825-the-amazing-race-17-exclusive-interview-with-michael-and-kevin-wu) One of their answers may or may not allude to a coming G\M elimination.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: DrRox on November 09, 2010, 01:48:01 PM
This is just a typical Bedouin tent. It is set up for chai (tea). Is that Chad in the background? It could be a drink some tea for route info deal. I think we will have to wait for more info on this.
Here's a link to a interview with M\K: http://www.realitywanted.com/newsitem/3825-the-amazing-race-17-exclusive-interview-with-michael-and-kevin-wu (http://www.realitywanted.com/newsitem/3825-the-amazing-race-17-exclusive-interview-with-michael-and-kevin-wu) One of their answers may or may not allude to a coming G\M elimination.
Do you mean this? ??? I see no hidden meaning...
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Q. Gina, RealityWanted: Is there anyone that you're pulling for now? A. Kevin: We like all the teams but during the race, we sort of grew a liking towards Gary and Mallory. Throughout the race, they were one of the few teams that we could trust.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 09, 2010, 01:54:00 PM
The episode title says Muscat, so I am thinking that the whole leg may take place there.
But could teams have to go by truck to the desert for the tent whatever it is? That is one big pot of tea or coffee...and Bedouins are known for their hospitality.
That could be get a clue, then go to rappell.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 09, 2010, 01:57:44 PM
This is just a typical Bedouin tent. It is set up for chai (tea). Is that Chad in the background? It could be a drink some tea for route info deal. I think we will have to wait for more info on this.
Do you mean the bent over person? And why is that Bedouin holding a megaphone?
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 09, 2010, 02:05:09 PM
I'm not sure about them traveling all the way to Sohar. That is a long drive, especially considering that they are going south to Riyam first. It is possible that there is another mine though, and I do think they are in one of those trucks.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 09, 2010, 02:07:20 PM
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Surmountable obstacles As a destination for rock-climbers, Oman is unmatched in the region for its appeal and many outdoor activities take place around the mountain ranges. More than 160 climbs have been pioneered, and graded from easy to extremely difficult. Jebel Ghul in the Al Dakhiliyah region towers 300 metres and offers Alpine-style climbing at its best. The Jebel Misfah, which is part of the Jebel Akhdar range, features climbs varying from 120 metres to 500 metres.
The best-known site is Jebel Misht in Nizwa, which has the largest rock face in the Arabian Peninsula. It's essential to be in good physical condition in order to negotiate the climb and it's also advisable to engage a local guide familiar with the terrain.
The mountains provide excellent conditions for trekking. Trips to Jebel Akhdar and Jebel Shams in Nizwa can be arranged easily through local tour operators. The Eastern Hajar mountains enable you to combine trekking in the mountains and camping on the beaches. In addition to enjoyable trekking, these spots provide breathtaking views of surrounding areas.
Jebel Shams (Jabal Shams), or "mountain of the sun", is the highest point in Oman at over 3,000 metres. The trek to the Wadi Nakhr Gorge, also known as the Grand Canyon of Oman, is an unforgettable experience. The trek to reach the cliff dwellings in the canyon begins at the village of Al Khateem and the path is littered with rocky rubble. Deep bends, overhanging rocks and panoramic views of the canyon all add to the exhilarating experience.
Situated 145 kilometres southwest of Muscat at the far end of Wadi Bani Awf in the Wilayat of Rustaq is Snake Canyon, which offers once-in-a-lifetime experiences for adventure-seekers. At 1,000 metres, the canyon is a 200-metre deep fissure, approximately three kilometres long, providing an idyllic location where visitors can walk, swim, or climb rocks.
Here's a link to a interview with M\K: http://www.realitywanted.com/newsitem/3825-the-amazing-race-17-exclusive-interview-with-michael-and-kevin-wu (http://www.realitywanted.com/newsitem/3825-the-amazing-race-17-exclusive-interview-with-michael-and-kevin-wu) One of their answers may or may not allude to a coming G\M elimination.
Do you mean this? ??? I see no hidden meaning...
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Q. Gina, RealityWanted: Is there anyone that you're pulling for now? A. Kevin: We like all the teams but during the race, we sort of grew a liking towards Gary and Mallory. Throughout the race, they were one of the few teams that we could trust.
In an interview with Rob and Amber after they were eliminated from the All Stars, they alluded that either Oswald and Danny or Dustin and Kandice would win. Neither won. All I'm saying is that M\K may be playing a reverse psychology game by alluding to a team that will be eliminated. Of course, this may just be over-analyzation.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 09, 2010, 02:34:36 PM
From caps 17 and 18 it looks like they may be on a butte looking formation like Jebel Misht. I don't tend to think that they could go to Riyam, Sohar, and Nizram all in one leg though.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 09, 2010, 02:36:58 PM
Riyam Park is right in Muscat...not sure why that is a problem?
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 09, 2010, 02:40:39 PM
Riyam Park is right in Muscat...not sure why that is a problem?
It's a ways from the airport, which is not really in Muscat, but it could go with either of the others (and we know it is included). I just think including Sohar and Nizram is too much driving. I believe there are some mines around Nizram, can anyone confirm this?
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: David on November 09, 2010, 03:05:49 PM
About Chad & Stephany, is it that they got overslept at the Pitstop as Peggy and Claire did? There's a shot of the pitstart, so that may be a hint?
PS: Had you already told that?
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 09, 2010, 03:07:12 PM
About Chad & Stephany, is it that they got overslept at the Pitstop as Peggy and Claire did? There's a shot of the pitstart, so that may be a hint?
PS: Had you already told that?
We have no proof of this fact; it is merely spec. Personally, I do not think that it affects anything.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: DrRox on November 09, 2010, 03:07:39 PM
Riyam Park is in Muttah, Oman. Muttah is in the state of Muscat. It is due east of the airport on the way to Muscat City. In TAR 9, they left Riyam and drove south along the coast to Sur, for the detour. Btw, BJ and Tyler had no direct interaction with camels in that leg. They did the silver message bottles in the watchtower side of the detour. It was Eric and Jeremy that had trouble finding where to leave the camel. From Sur they drove 90 miles inland, almost due west to Al Hawiyah oasis for the infamous "dig for your dinner" RB and then drove for another 100 miles to the northwest to the Fort at Nizwa, Jabreen Castle. When released from the pit stop, it was about a 120 mile drive north to the airport. Basically they drove a big box around Oman. I also believe it was about the same time frame. In and out in about 36 hours.
There could be mines just about anywhere. The big mining district is near Sohar, where large scale mineralization occured. This is from /geological/technical sites I checked. IF that is not an ore hauler, then looking for mines is just whistling in the wind. The highways in Oman are good, interstate quality. The only problem they had in TAR9 was a bridge washed out by a flood and they meet the Sultan and had to park by the side of the road for awhile.....lol
If you think there are mines around Nizwa, the_pr0phet, then find them. I did not see any mention of that area in the technical/mining pages I checked. The fact that they have adventure companies in Oman doing climbing and rapelling, means to me, that BVM found him some local riggers. He is good at doing that and using them to rig in areas that they don't normally use.
I am not saying that anyplace I mention is THE place....they are posibilities.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 09, 2010, 03:17:34 PM
Wow, I had forgotten how much driving they did on that leg. I also hadn't thought of the possibility of them using an area they don't typically use. I did notice that the roads looked good. It will probably be extremely difficult for us to pinpoint the actual area they use, and it may not matter. Since there is so much mining in Oman and it appears that they are in an ore truck, I am sure that they do a task like this. This company: http://mawaridmining.com/operations_miningomancopper.shtml seems to use these types of trucks and has multiple mining locations in Sohar.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: DrRox on November 09, 2010, 03:42:07 PM
But could teams have to go by truck to the desert for the tent whatever it is? That is one big pot of tea or coffee...and Bedouins are known for their hospitality.
That could be get a clue, then go to rappell.
Both tables I can see in that tent are set up for tea. That is a band in the background to provide music. I was thinking that the guy in all black, might be Chad.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 09, 2010, 04:34:17 PM
Chateau's info over here: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23216.msg571786.html#msg571786 supports the theory of an early morning departure then driving in the dark to Riyam and waiting for it or something there to open.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Cocoa on November 09, 2010, 06:24:42 PM
Maybe after Chad proposed to Stephanie, they go to an Omani wedding with bedouins. LOLJK.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: redskevin88 on November 09, 2010, 06:31:10 PM
We don't know why but somehow I am sure they talked their way out of whatever! :lol3:
Hard too... Arab guys don't kiss kiss with girls, they only kiss men...
huh
Brooke & Claire have kissed their way out of trouble so far, in Oman, it will be very difficult as Arab men don't "physically interact" with women.
I don't really know where you get your info, redskooky. But having lived in an Arab country for 6 years, I find your statements to be totally false and just plain bigoted.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit"
Post by: Prophet on November 09, 2010, 06:40:46 PM
We don't know why but somehow I am sure they talked their way out of whatever! :lol3:
Hard too... Arab guys don't kiss kiss with girls, they only kiss men...
huh
Brooke & Claire have kissed their way out of trouble so far, in Oman, it will be very difficult as Arab men don't "physically interact" with women.
I don't know why you have continued to reiterate this statement when we have repeatedly turned the topic to other more intelligent topics.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 09, 2010, 08:36:23 PM
Moving on....
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: CheyneTAR on November 09, 2010, 09:09:07 PM
oops newbie mistake
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 09, 2010, 09:43:31 PM
I don't know if the Al Qubrah mosque (http://www.edwebproject.org/oman-dubai/muscat.html) seen in the caps (thanks, Peach :waves:) figures into the leg (info stop, maybe?), but some trivia just in case:
It's the only mosque in Oman that admits tourists
According to this article (http://www.metro.co.uk/travel/8069-oh-man-oman), the world's largest carpet was stitched together, then the roof built over it
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 09, 2010, 09:54:02 PM
Nice pics, thanks! Yes, if they show it, it must play a role right? Would they come back to there for the Pitstop, or is it more likely to be an along the way stop?? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: DrRox on November 10, 2010, 06:53:03 AM
As outgoing, liberal (well as far as Arab states go), friendly and hospitable as the Omanis are, I just can't fathom the Grand Mosque to be a pit stop. Well I mean an old style pit stops. I forget about modern pit stops. I guess they could check in on the grounds and then check out. It will be interesting to see how they do use it.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 10, 2010, 07:17:18 AM
These days, PitStops seem rarely to be the same place the racers stay. So I get you. Probably a clue location??
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: DrRox on November 10, 2010, 07:20:40 AM
Possibily........but more than the teams coming in and out.......I would think they wouldnt want so many crew standing around working.....it is a place of reverence. All the behind the scenes stuff we never see. I keep thinking about that pic from Chile when the grandmother/granddaughter got eliminated......They would be upset with all that circus, I think.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 10, 2010, 07:28:34 AM
Good point!
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 10, 2010, 08:03:15 AM
I kind of thought they showed the Grand Mosque on the commercial as a general symbol of Oman.
Anyway, on the original preview the Al-Lawatiya Mosque can be seen in cap 11. The grey taxi in that cap appears to be the same car that is in caps 15 and 17. I think that Gary and Mallory are following this taxi to lead them somewhere when they become lost. Since that mosque is in close vicinity to Riyam park I wonder if they are trying to find wherever they are going after that. We know they found the park in time because Mallory is sitting on the fountain wall.
The first few shots show them in the city but in the last few frames they seem to be in the desert. If they are headed south towards Nizram or up the coast to Sohar, how far can they expect that taxi to lead them? This may indicate another stop somewhere closer to town. My guess is that they are not really all that far behind.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 10, 2010, 09:48:28 AM
When Jill and Thomas are riding in what appears to be a cab here are they on the way to the airport in Russia? Is that a route info clue he is holding? It seems a little bright out for them to be leaving the Pit Start.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 10, 2010, 10:42:21 AM
Does anyone remember Terence and Sarah being penalized for speeding in season 13 leg 5? Wondering if this will befall Brooke and Claire.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: gator27 on November 10, 2010, 10:50:25 AM
When Jill and Thomas are riding in what appears to be a cab here are they on the way to the airport in Russia? Is that a route info clue he is holding? It seems a little bright out for them to be leaving the Pit Start.
Given that Jill is wearing a harness, I think this occurs after repelling in Oman.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 10, 2010, 11:55:41 AM
When Jill and Thomas are riding in what appears to be a cab here are they on the way to the airport in Russia? Is that a route info clue he is holding? It seems a little bright out for them to be leaving the Pit Start.
Given that Jill is wearing a harness, I think this occurs after repelling in Oman.
Well I thought so at first as well, but I thought that the most logical place for them to use a taxi was while they were still in Russia. In cap 26 Nick and Vicki are in a cab but neither one is wearing a harness. N/V clothes in the cab are the same ones they are wearing at the fountain. In the cab J/T are wearing the same clothes they wore at the watch tower but not the same as they wore in the airport (cap 27). This makes it seem like the N/V shot is on the way to the airport and maybe J/T's is not.
Would they let you take the harness with you? If so then what happened to the cars they drove themselves in?
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: TrueNorth on November 10, 2010, 12:11:47 PM
About Chad & Stephany, is it that they got overslept at the Pitstop as Peggy and Claire did? There's a shot of the pitstart, so that may be a hint?
PS: Had you already told that?
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: TrueNorth on November 10, 2010, 12:14:18 PM
Let's see if I can write this time. I believe some artful editing is involved here. It seems to be Gary and Mallory that make the critical mistake in the beginning and Chad/Stephanie sleeping in is a red herring.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: gator27 on November 10, 2010, 12:37:07 PM
When Jill and Thomas are riding in what appears to be a cab here are they on the way to the airport in Russia? Is that a route info clue he is holding? It seems a little bright out for them to be leaving the Pit Start.
Given that Jill is wearing a harness, I think this occurs after repelling in Oman.
Well I thought so at first as well, but I thought that the most logical place for them to use a taxi was while they were still in Russia. In cap 26 Nick and Vicki are in a cab but neither one is wearing a harness. N/V clothes in the cab are the same ones they are wearing at the fountain. In the cab J/T are wearing the same clothes they wore at the watch tower but not the same as they wore in the airport (cap 27). This makes it seem like the N/V shot is on the way to the airport and maybe J/T's is not.
Would they let you take the harness with you? If so then what happened to the cars they drove themselves in?
I suspect that at some point racers change from driving themselves to having a driver take over. They did something similar a few seasons ago; they got a driver to drive them across sand dunes.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: theschnauzers on November 10, 2010, 01:03:42 PM
Regarding the mosque -- There was a mosque in Morocco that served as the site for a clue box; no tasks were performed there but the Racers did not enter the Mosque itself, just the outer courtyard. Both male and female Racers had to make sure they were respectfully dressed (head scarfs for the women as I recall) for that locale.
If a mosque turns up again as a place the Racers are directed to, I doubt it will be anything more that a clue box for a route marker clue.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: DrRox on November 10, 2010, 01:42:20 PM
This is my guess.......
Jill and Thomas are being driving to the top of that cliff for the rapell in a picup it seems. They drive their car to the rigging point and/or RB cluebox.........when Jill gets all rigged up, they are driven to the top of the cliff....Jill starts rapell down...Thomas rides back down in truck. When finished, they get in car and leave.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 10, 2010, 01:45:42 PM
I suspect that at some point racers change from driving themselves to having a driver take over. They did something similar a few seasons ago; they got a driver to drive them across sand dunes.
When Gary and Mallory are lost they are driving themselves. As I already mentioned they are at the park before it opens, as are probably everyone else. This makes it seem like to me that they are headed to either the detour or a transitional Route Info stop.
I wonder if they are looking for the grand mosque in order to get a clue from somewhere around it. Since they appear to be near the Al lawatabi maybe they got their mosques crossed up. These two are pretty far apart and that would be a bad mistake.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 10, 2010, 01:50:14 PM
Jill and Thomas are being driving to the top of that cliff for the rapell in a picup it seems. They drive their car to the rigging point and/or RB cluebox.........when Jill gets all rigged up, they are driven to the top of the cliff....Jill starts rapell down...Thomas rides back down in truck. When finished, they get in car and leave.
It looks more like an SUV but that doesn't matter. What do you think Nick and Vicki are doing?
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 10, 2010, 02:25:50 PM
For what it's worth, I am quite sure from comparing multiple shots, that the teams are driving Toyota Landcruisers. It looks like Jill and Thomas and Nick and Vicki could be in the back of that.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: FLFan on November 10, 2010, 02:46:17 PM
Looks like this might be another opportunity for Vicki to do a roadblock since she is falling behind in keeping the count even. (Haven't seen any promos yet with her doing it but it seems reasonable.)
AND Kat get gets to save Nat from heights!
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 10, 2010, 05:22:02 PM
Looks like this might be another opportunity for Vicki to do a roadblock since she is falling behind in keeping the count even. (Haven't seen any promos yet with her doing it but it seems reasonable.)
AND Kat get gets to save Nat from heights!
Yeah, she's the only racer who has only done two. If each racer can only do six then he can only do one more. The rest of the teams have been taking turns.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: apskip on November 10, 2010, 06:51:40 PM
It was also a stop that was part of Amazing Race Asia 3, episode 10.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: DrRox on November 10, 2010, 07:16:59 PM
Here is a GE of the Muttah area with salient places marked. Well the pic is too small...I will resize it and repost. (http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l573/drrox1/TAR/MuttahOman.jpg)
Here are the TAR9 Waypoints. Start at the Airport in center top and go clockwise till you get back to the airport. (http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l573/drrox1/TAR/TAR9Waypoints2.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 10, 2010, 07:49:34 PM
Jill is wearing a harness that we see in the rappelling task.
ergo...they are either on their way TO the task or returning FROM the task.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: DrRox on November 10, 2010, 08:35:19 PM
This could be a minor spolier, but on CTV (Canadian televison network that shows the show) had a promo in which it stated a team WILL be eliminated at the end of this leg.
I kind of suspected it. Right now, my guess is that Gary & Mallory get the boot, although it could be Chad & Stephanie.
Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 11, 2010, 07:57:36 PM
I saw a promo during "The Talk" (approx. 1:40pm, CST) showing Chad proposing to Stephanie. :hearts:
See if it is the same promo I have up please??
Yes, it is. Sorry, I got excited and posted B4 checking other posts. :-[
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 11, 2010, 08:36:30 PM
Darn...I am ready for a new one. :hugs:
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 11, 2010, 11:49:15 PM
I can't imagine a proposal if it wasn't following an elimination. As far as the snoring goes, they probably spliced in Nick's snoring from the train. :zzz :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Dånooky on November 12, 2010, 12:23:15 AM
I can't imagine a proposal if it wasn't following an elimination.
Maybe, it's the other way around. Picture this: Chad proposes. Stephanie: (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/misc/hahahanogif.gif)
Then Chad gets his heart broken and there is an awkward dynamic during the rest of the leg in such a way that leads to their elimination.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 12, 2010, 08:35:48 AM
Dånooky, that would be funny and actually add a very interesting flavor. You have to admit that most of us want to see Chad get that response. :lol: It would be one of the more interesting legs if that happened at the beginning.
Slowhatch, have we considered the possibility that Riyam park is the Pit Stop? Why is that impossible?
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 12, 2010, 12:47:40 PM
I am not slowhatch, :lol: but it seems as though teams are waiting in the Park for their HOO before climbing the WatchTower. It would be unusual for them to get a clue or start a task and then return there for a PitStop.
Maybe somewhere near the RB? Or back to someplace like the Incense Burner? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 12, 2010, 01:44:26 PM
I am not slowhatch, :lol: but it seems as though teams are waiting in the Park for their HOO before climbing the WatchTower. It would be unusual for them to get a clue or start a task and then return there for a PitStop.
Maybe somewhere near the RB? Or back to someplace like the Incense Burner? :duno:
I know, it does seem that way, especially since it looks like early morning. Several people have expressed their surprise that he would do so before the elimination though.
Maybe the facts back up Danooky's idea. :grins:
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: natalie on November 12, 2010, 08:46:35 PM
Dånooky, that would be funny and actually add a very interesting flavor. You have to admit that most of us want to see Chad get that response. :lol: It would be one of the more interesting legs if that happened at the beginning.
Slowhatch, have we considered the possibility that Riyam park is the Pit Stop? Why is that impossible?
glad I'm not alone :snicker:
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: mswood on November 12, 2010, 09:33:21 PM
Dånooky, that would be funny and actually add a very interesting flavor. You have to admit that most of us want to see Chad get that response. :lol: It would be one of the more interesting legs if that happened at the beginning.
Slowhatch, have we considered the possibility that Riyam park is the Pit Stop? Why is that impossible?
Why would you think most would want to see that? Seriously, is something wrong with people.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: DrRox on November 12, 2010, 09:50:50 PM
Dånooky, that would be funny and actually add a very interesting flavor. You have to admit that most of us want to see Chad get that response. :lol: It would be one of the more interesting legs if that happened at the beginning.
Slowhatch, have we considered the possibility that Riyam park is the Pit Stop? Why is that impossible?
Why would you think most would want to see that? Seriously, is something wrong with people.
Yeah
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 12, 2010, 11:48:28 PM
I would only wish happiness for Chad and Stephanie.
I know VERY well that what you see on TV does not always reflect who racers are in life. Editing is a very powerful tool.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: David on November 13, 2010, 02:40:22 AM
I would only wish happiness for Chad and Stephanie.
I know VERY well that what you see on TV does not always reflect who racers are in life. Editing is a very powerful tool.
That's the only pity of TV... :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: BayBay on November 13, 2010, 06:28:22 AM
This was in the Australian TV Guide: "Travelling 51,500km and covering four continents and 30 cities" Old news???
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2010, 06:56:20 AM
Yes...
CBS Press release:
09.01.2010
CBS ANNOUNCES THE CAST FOR THE NEXT INSTALLMENT OF "THE AMAZING RACE," WHICH PREMIERES WITH A SPECIAL 90-MINUTE DEBUT ON SUNDAY, SEPT. 26 11 Teams Will Travel Over 32,000 Miles, Spanning Four Continents and 30 Cities, with Inaugural Visits to Bangladesh, Ghana and a Trek Deep into the Arctic Circle
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 13, 2010, 08:10:44 AM
Well, its more like a clip. It helps expand our knowledge of the roadblock.
Quick thoughts:
Chad/Stephanie and Jill/Thomas are at the Roadblock at the same general time.
It looks like one racer can rappel at a time. Maybe this is a "pull off numbers" task.
We didn't know about the searching part at all.
Do any of the views help establish where they are or the time of day?
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Lucybell on November 13, 2010, 10:34:36 AM
Forgive me if this has already been brought up (I didn't see it here) but... Chad and Stephanie incurred a 30 minute penalty at the end of the last leg that was going to be applied to their start time for this leg of the race. I am not sure how far behind Jill and Thomas they were but add 30 min. The other teams were wondering where they were but, they may not have been aware of the penalty. In other clips, they had caught up with the other teams (Chad seen with Jill and when he proposes, Brooke, Claire and Nick were seen witnessing it.) One might think that Chad would have proposed after the elimination but they usually do not show post pitstop happenings in the same episode (except for private interviews). Myself, I think they were stuck with the HoO and the location was beautiful, so he decided the time was right.
I am not sure who far ahead of Jill and Thomas that Gary and Mallory were but I believe they caught up at the airport. They are MIA in all the clips of tasks and were very lost so I am, unfortunately calling a Gary and Mallory elimination this week. :'(
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 13, 2010, 11:26:31 AM
Forgive me if this has already been brought up (I didn't see it here) but... Chad and Stephanie incurred a 30 minute penalty at the end of the last leg that was going to be applied to their start time for this leg of the race. I am not sure how far behind Jill and Thomas they were but add 30 min. The other teams were wondering where they were but, they may not have been aware of the penalty. In other clips, they had caught up with the other teams (Chad seen with Jill and when he proposes, Brooke, Claire and Nick were seen witnessing it.) One might think that Chad would have proposed after the elimination but they usually do not show post pitstop happenings in the same episode (except for private interviews). Myself, I think they were stuck with the HoO and the location was beautiful, so he decided the time was right.
I am not sure who far ahead of Jill and Thomas that Gary and Mallory were but I believe they caught up at the airport. They are MIA in all the clips of tasks and were very lost so I am, unfortunately calling a Gary and Mallory elimination this week. :'(
I think that is the general consensus we have come to here. Good sum up of the prediction for this week.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2010, 12:32:08 PM
Thanks! Here it is embedded, and I will do caps when I get home tonight! :jumpy:
For Chateau to do shadow time, it will help him to know where this is...maybe someone could search flickr for the rappelling areas I posted before and see if anything looks similar? I can't today... :(
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2010, 12:34:55 PM
Surmountable obstacles As a destination for rock-climbers, Oman is unmatched in the region for its appeal and many outdoor activities take place around the mountain ranges. More than 160 climbs have been pioneered, and graded from easy to extremely difficult. Jebel Ghul in the Al Dakhiliyah region towers 300 metres and offers Alpine-style climbing at its best. The Jebel Misfah, which is part of the Jebel Akhdar range, features climbs varying from 120 metres to 500 metres.
The best-known site is Jebel Misht in Nizwa, which has the largest rock face in the Arabian Peninsula. It's essential to be in good physical condition in order to negotiate the climb and it's also advisable to engage a local guide familiar with the terrain.
The mountains provide excellent conditions for trekking. Trips to Jebel Akhdar and Jebel Shams in Nizwa can be arranged easily through local tour operators. The Eastern Hajar mountains enable you to combine trekking in the mountains and camping on the beaches. In addition to enjoyable trekking, these spots provide breathtaking views of surrounding areas.
Jebel Shams (Jabal Shams), or "mountain of the sun", is the highest point in Oman at over 3,000 metres. The trek to the Wadi Nakhr Gorge, also known as the Grand Canyon of Oman, is an unforgettable experience. The trek to reach the cliff dwellings in the canyon begins at the village of Al Khateem and the path is littered with rocky rubble. Deep bends, overhanging rocks and panoramic views of the canyon all add to the exhilarating experience.
Situated 145 kilometres southwest of Muscat at the far end of Wadi Bani Awf in the Wilayat of Rustaq is Snake Canyon, which offers once-in-a-lifetime experiences for adventure-seekers. At 1,000 metres, the canyon is a 200-metre deep fissure, approximately three kilometres long, providing an idyllic location where visitors can walk, swim, or climb rocks.
Ghul and Wadi Nakhr photoset: Does this look possible? ??? http://www.pbase.com/bmcmorrow/wadinakhr&page=all
Snake Canyon pics HERE (http://www.google.com/images?rlz=1T4ADFA_enUS391US391&q=snake+canyon+oman&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=tQTfTIqsOIWclge268itAw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=2&ved=0CCkQsAQwAQ&biw=1579&bih=664)
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Chateau d If on November 13, 2010, 04:10:33 PM
All the shots look like high noon.
Also, they are at an open pit mine. I'd stay with that search option.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2010, 04:26:13 PM
Wow...Dr Rox was right then! I never would have spotted that as a mine!! Thanks!! :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Chateau d If on November 13, 2010, 05:03:54 PM
On re-look, the Jebel Shams area does look perfectly likely. :duno:
Sorry for being indecisive!
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: DrRox on November 13, 2010, 05:26:24 PM
It's not the same tent....but shows they are available in Oman. Harkens back to classic TAR. A Bedouin tent in the middle of nowwhere.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 13, 2010, 05:52:31 PM
Since it appears to be high noon (and even my inexperienced eyes would guess so) then this task is probably about four hours separated from the RI at Riyam. To Jebel Shams is about 100 mile trip on the road so that seems to be a likely area. On the other hand they might could make it to the mining region in Sohar by then.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: DrRox on November 13, 2010, 06:05:06 PM
On re-look, the Jebel Shams area does look perfectly likely. :duno:
Sorry for being indecisive!
The rapelling roadblock does appear to be at Jebel Shams area. Those cliffs are to high to be an open pit mine.
"On the next leg of Prof Urai’s geological tour, the audience was introduced to geological quirks in the Jabal Akhdar and Jabal Shams areas that truly attest to Oman’s spectacular geological heritage. Fossils and other geological features dating from the Cretaceous to the Jurassic periods can be found in and around Wadi Nakhr, a dramatic gorge located 3,000 metres above sea level in Jabal Akhdar.
Jabal Shams has its own share of geological wonders, according to Prof Urai. Along the rim of the canyon are Cretaceous and Jurassic era rock layers, while elsewhere can be found rock veins — exposed fractures that have the semblance of rock art. Importantly, the study of Oman’s exceptional geological heritage has benefits that go beyond the search for hydrocarbons, says Prof Urai."
The big blocky rock formation appear to be marine limestones and dolostones of the Cretaceous/Jurassic eras..
IF they go to the open pit copper mines in the Sohar area, there is a major highway due south out of Sohar to the Nizwa/Bahla area, which are the gateways to the Wadi Nakhr/Grand Canyon region. The teams would not have to drive back to the Muttah/Muscat area. Another possible drive a box around Oman.
This article is from Oct, 2003 and could explain the use of drivers. The teams could drive themselves to the Wadi, then have drivers drive them to the top and bottom of the roadblock, then back out of the Wadi.
"Walking time is around three hours one-way. At one point the road leaves the wadi and cuts a twisting swathe through the rugged terrain, skirting small hamlets en route. Work is still under way on a 10km stretch to the summit, a rocky plateau that offers unparalleled views of Wadi Nakhr and its splendid gorge."
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 13, 2010, 07:06:56 PM
I think Chateau has it: the Shams/Nakhur area. I don't have my tools with me, but compare the rockface in the cap with the one in this photo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gregor_samsa/4379600109/). Also, according to this photoset (http://www.flickr.com/search/?ss=2&w=40084918@N03&q=wadi+nakhur&m=text), there's a village near the cliffs that can be reached by car.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2010, 07:28:32 PM
I think we may have it!!
In that photoset I posted above, there are 10 pages of Jabal Sham pics...
including these: A camping/resort where teams could stay, and GOATS!!! :hearts:
Thanks! Here it is embedded, and I will do caps when I get home tonight! :jumpy:
For Chateau to do shadow time, it will help him to know where this is...maybe someone could search flickr for the rappelling areas I posted before and see if anything looks similar? I can't today... :(
Wonder if they're ahead or behind? Previews like these usually only showcase those who are ahead, but you never know. . . .
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:19:55 AM
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:34:13 AM
promo upstream!! ^^
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Cocoa on November 14, 2010, 07:56:58 AM
Chad is looking for a what in one the lamps? Ring? ???
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 08:01:56 AM
??? They were seen looking for a flight to Bangladesh...the ep 8 leg would be over at that time, right? And yes, we know they finished 5th in Russia leg 2.
So if Jill/Thomas weren't exaggerating to the guy in Muscat airport (they told him they'd lose if they couldn't get a flight to Bangladesh within 8 hours), does this mean they came in 2nd to last in the 2nd Russian leg? Or am I simplifying things?
According to my speculation they may finish in the bottom half in episode 7. However there is a whole leg between that one and the flight to Bangladesh.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 08:02:24 AM
Chad is looking for a what in one the lamps? Ring? ???
Yep...a RING!! How funny!
A ring-centric episode tonight. Any chance the ring Chad gets repelling is the same one used in the proposal? It would be odd to have bunching after the Roadblock.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Cocoa on November 14, 2010, 08:14:53 AM
Chad is looking for a what in one the lamps? Ring? ???
Yep...a RING!! How funny!
A ring-centric episode tonight. Any chance the ring Chad gets repelling is the same one used in the proposal? It would be odd to have bunching after the Roadblock.
Nope. But I wish Chad's gonna give the ring to Steph, making Steph having 2 rings and get proposed times two! :lol:
I see, the ring is in connection in Aladdin's story. I don't have to discuss it here, just google those info. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 08:19:57 AM
Nice cocoa!!
Wiki is great for this stuff:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Baba
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aladdin
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: CheyneTAR on November 14, 2010, 08:52:30 AM
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on November 14, 2010, 10:20:24 AM
CBS confirms that its Jabel Shams - The Grand Canyon of Oman".
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CBSTweet CBS Tweet 2nite Amazing Race is going 2 new heights when Racers must repel down the “Grand Canyon of Oman” http://bit.ly/cEXMo8 59 seconds ago
I can't see the video right now so I don't know if its new...
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 11:42:44 AM
Iti s the Jill rap-al clip (promo 1)...SO glad they gave us time to find it first!! :hearts:
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Teams embark on a harrowing plunge down the Grand Canyon of Oman during this Sunday's The Amazing Race, Nov. 14 (8-9PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 14, 2010, 11:56:31 AM
Iti s the Jill rap-al clip (promo 1)...SO glad they gave us time to find it first!! :hearts:
Quote
Teams embark on a harrowing plunge down the Grand Canyon of Oman during this Sunday's The Amazing Race, Nov. 14 (8-9PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network
This confirms Jebel Shams right?
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 14, 2010, 12:19:42 PM
Quote
This confirms Jebel Shams right?
Yep. Wadi Nakhr, Wadi Al Nakhur, Jebel Shams canyon (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/6062870), the Grand Canyon of Oman: all the same.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 02:39:19 PM
We have nothing on a detour unless it is the Bedouin task...so that is my vote. Tea or____?? ??? There is the person with the thing on their head, :lol:
Think the cap of Nick and Vick running is to the Detour maybe...
SO I think the Riyad Park shot is an HOO for Route info at the climb the stairs to the WatchTower.
Detour is Bedouin.
RB is Rapelling.
And PitStop will be with the goats. :funny:
Anybody think differently??
WHat do y'all think causes the police to come to B/C??
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 14, 2010, 03:58:42 PM
We have nothing on a detour unless it is the Bedouin task...so that is my vote. Tea or____?? ??? There is the person with the thing on their head, :lol:
Think the cap of Nick and Vick running is to the Detour maybe...
SO I think the Riyad Park shot is an HOO for Route info at the climb the stairs to the WatchTower.
Detour is Bedouin.
RB is Rapelling.
And PitStop will be with the goats. :funny:
Anybody think differently??
WHat do y'all think causes the police to come to B/C??
As I speculated earlier in the thread, I think it is speeding. Remember when Terence and Sarah sped in TAR 13 and got a penalty? Maybe they will too.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: kim05 on November 14, 2010, 06:06:50 PM
New to RFF: Hi all!! In the pic of J/T in the car with her wearing the harness, I think it has to be after the rappelling. Check out the caps for when she takes off following the guide in the blue shirt to start the "ra-pal" she is not wearing the harness. This makes me think they are in a hurry to catch up after she is done and just doesn't bother taking off all the gear.
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Prophet on November 14, 2010, 06:23:38 PM
New to RFF: Hi all!! In the pic of J/T in the car with her wearing the harness, I think it has to be after the rappelling. Check out the caps for when she takes off following the guide in the blue shirt to start the "ra-pal" she is not wearing the harness. This makes me think they are in a hurry to catch up after she is done and just doesn't bother taking off all the gear.
That's a interesting idea I hadn't thought of. That may be what happens, btw: :bigwelcome
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: Neobie on November 15, 2010, 10:48:32 AM
So with Gary/Mallory starting at 8am and telling the ES teams that the leg took 16h, I suppose they checked in sometime around midnight? Poor Phil missing his flight, I wonder if he made the 1.25am departure to Mumbai?
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: theschnauzers on November 15, 2010, 11:22:35 AM
Add to that, the fact that the first team was released from the pit stop in St. Petersburg at 1 a.m. the previous day, and it's a very long leg (time zone shift as well.)
Title: Re: TAR 17 EP 8 "Ali Baba in a Suit" (Muscat, Oman)
Post by: AmazingRace on November 17, 2010, 07:10:20 AM
Speaking of oversleeping, I just recalled in Season 11, Charla & Mirna overslept in Leg 12, because of a broken alarm.