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Title: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Kaylynn on October 22, 2010, 11:38:24 PM
title via TV Guide http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/Amazing-Race-2010/episode-7-season-17/want-circus-thats/306700 (http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/Amazing-Race-2010/episode-7-season-17/want-circus-thats/306700)


"The Race Continues in St Petersburg, Russia"

so two legs in Russia? or or a double leg over 2 eps?
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: theschnauzers on October 22, 2010, 11:47:55 PM
A second leg in Russia would make sense from the way the Race is time compressed for filming, and especially with the two-day pit stop in Ghana.

My cable provider should have something by morning, I'll check and see what it says then.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on October 23, 2010, 12:37:24 AM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2017/ep%207%20St%20Petersburg%202/TAR17ep7TvGuideTitle.jpg)


TEAMS GO TO THE CIRCUS IN RUSSIA, BUT IT'S NOT ALL FUN AND GAMES WHEN MULTIPLE TEAMS MISREAD A CLUE, ULTIMATELY THREATENING THEIR POSITIONS IN THE GAME,
ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, NOV. 7

"I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong" (Russia) — Teams are clowning around when they learn a traditional Russian circus act, but it's no joke when multiple teams make a critical error and misread a clue, jeopardizing their positions in the Race, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, Nov. 7 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on October 23, 2010, 12:37:47 AM
Promos and Vids will go here!

PREVIEW:




PROMO 1: Thank you Slowhatch!


Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on October 23, 2010, 12:38:31 AM
**reserved**
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: redskevin88 on October 23, 2010, 01:14:58 AM
And St. Petersburg has a famous circus. Bolshoy St. Petersburg circus....


http://reserve.sp.ru/circus/index_e.htm



Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Kaylynn on October 23, 2010, 01:28:45 AM
And St. Petersburg has a famous circus. Bolshoy St. Petersburg circus....


http://reserve.sp.ru/circus/index_e.htm




uh oh its an animal circus, lets hope no one gets screwed by the animal that refuses to work. or they have to be one of clown hosts.....
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Paron on October 23, 2010, 01:51:51 AM
Really?  Two Russia legs?  I guess there's no Oman leg, then?
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on October 23, 2010, 02:17:38 AM
Really?  Two Russia legs?  I guess there's no Oman leg, then?

Not necessarily....

There should be plenty of time in St Pete for two regular legs with Pitstops. The real question seems to be could we still squeeze in Oman as an actual leg, which would make Bangladesh one leg as well.

Off hand, without rechecking all the sightings tonight, my guess would be that Oman is transit only.

But that is speculation until we relook at all the times of the sightings, and see what looks best. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Jobby on October 23, 2010, 08:27:19 AM
Really?  Two Russia legs?  I guess there's no Oman leg, then?

Not necessarily....

There should be plenty of time in St Pete for two regular legs with Pitstops. The real question seems to be could we still squeeze in Oman as an actual leg, which would make Bangladesh one leg as well.

Off hand, without rechecking all the sightings tonight, my guess would be that Oman is transit only.

But that is speculation until we relook at all the times of the sightings, and see what looks best. :tup:

Any possibilities of 13 legs?
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: redskevin88 on October 23, 2010, 08:43:54 AM
And St. Petersburg has a famous circus. Bolshoy St. Petersburg circus....


http://reserve.sp.ru/circus/index_e.htm




uh oh its an animal circus, lets hope no one gets screwed by the animal that refuses to work. or they have to be one of clown hosts.....

I'll look again... it has to be some kind of circus... thanks for pointing that out.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Kaylynn on October 23, 2010, 09:49:45 AM

Quote

Any possibilities of 13 legs?

I would love to have 13 legs, I feel like that is the classic amazing race  :grins:
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: theschnauzers on October 23, 2010, 10:32:12 AM
Phil did say 12 legs at the start. But an uber-leg can't be ruled out as long as the finale date schedule is not certain.

And my cable DVR listing is the same as Katelyn's and georgiapeach's.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Belle Book on October 23, 2010, 10:46:03 AM
Looks like one of the St. Petersburg legs is a non-elimination one or maybe a TBC.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: jerseydude on October 23, 2010, 10:56:24 AM
Looks like one of the St. Petersburg legs is a non-elimination one or maybe a TBC.

Belle Book


Actually I think that the NEL comes in Leg 8 (either Oman or Dhaka) because both Gary and Mallory and Michael and Kevin and last seen en route to St. Petersberg. (We assume that both are eliminated here.)
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on October 23, 2010, 11:00:30 AM


Actually I think that the NEL comes in Dhaka because both Gary and Mallory and Michael and Kevin and last seen en route to St. Petersberg. (We assume that both are eliminated here.)

Not being seen is not the same as gone. There were several other sightings of teams around St Pete...I'll make one last ditch effort to get their pics.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: jerseydude on October 23, 2010, 11:49:17 AM


Actually I think that the NEL comes in Dhaka because both Gary and Mallory and Michael and Kevin and last seen en route to St. Petersberg. (We assume that both are eliminated here.)

Not being seen is not the same as gone. There were several other sightings of teams around St Pete...I'll make one last ditch effort to get their pics.

My speculation is based on not being seen=being gone and I understand that it might not necessarily be so (that what there's an I think in front ;) )
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: mjriches2005 on October 23, 2010, 05:52:06 PM
title via TV Guide http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/Amazing-Race-2010/episode-7-season-17/want-circus-thats/306700 (http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/Amazing-Race-2010/episode-7-season-17/want-circus-thats/306700)


"The Race Continues in St Petersburg, Russia"

so two legs in Russia? or or a double leg over 2 eps?

I think it's two legs, but the double-leg can't be ruled out.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: north09 on October 24, 2010, 11:54:39 AM
Without a second leg in St. Petersburg, I only counted 11 legs. If this is a short leg, there is still time to squeeze in Oman and be back in LA by the 15th.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on October 24, 2010, 12:50:36 PM
Not if Bangladesh is two legs...have a look at the Timeline and see what you think?
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Kaylynn on October 24, 2010, 02:34:32 PM
Not if Bangladesh is two legs...have a look at the Timeline and see what you think?

With two legs in Russia, and two in Bangladesh, we have 13 legs?
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on October 24, 2010, 02:56:30 PM
There are only 12 legs in TAR 17 -- direct from Phil.

We don't know for sure that there are 2 legs in Bangladesh I don't think? But not looking good for getting to Oman as a leg...looks as though that may be transit only. STill working it out.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: DrRox on October 24, 2010, 04:33:18 PM
We will know in a week when TV Guide tells us what Episode 8 title is. Maybe sooner if Neobie figures it out.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Kaylynn on October 24, 2010, 06:24:13 PM
There are only 12 legs in TAR 17 -- direct from Phil.

We don't know for sure that there are 2 legs in Bangladesh I don't think? But not looking good for getting to Oman as a leg...looks as though that may be transit only. STill working it out.

So right now it looks like this?

Leg 1 USA-England
Leg 2 England to Ghana
Leg 3 Ghana
Leg 4 Ghana to Sweden
Leg 5 Sweden to Norway
Leg 6 Norway to Russia
Leg 7 Russia
Leg 8 Russia to Bangladesh (via Oman?)
Leg 9 Bangladesh
Leg 10 Bangladesh to Hong Kong
Leg 11 Hong Kong to South Korea
Leg 12 South Korea to USA

if our sightings only see teams in Muscat airport, they could be looking for their connecting flight.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on October 24, 2010, 06:40:53 PM
As I said, still working on it. Have to see if there are flights that would allow timing for there to be an Oman leg...which I doubt.

If no Oman leg, then yes, that is correct.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Kaylynn on October 24, 2010, 08:57:18 PM
As I said, still working on it. Have to see if there are flights that would allow timing for there to be an Oman leg...which I doubt.

If no Oman leg, then yes, that is correct.

we'll just have to wait and see
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: apskip on October 25, 2010, 12:35:36 PM
I would like to poke a big hole in the st. Petersburg to Dhaka via Muscat theory. It makes absolutely no sense based on real flight possibilities. Please see this posting I just made on    
Re: AR17 Flight Information
« Reply #7 on: Today at 12:32:16 PM »
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Kaylynn on October 25, 2010, 07:09:49 PM
I would like to poke a big hole in the st. Petersburg to Dhaka via Muscat theory. It makes absolutely no sense based on real flight possibilities. Please see this posting I just made on    
Re: AR17 Flight Information
« Reply #7 on: Today at 12:32:16 PM »

Yeah I agree, there may be an Oman leg, dropping the Bangladesh legs to 1 leg.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on October 26, 2010, 09:13:10 PM
From CBS:
Quote
Sunday, Nov. 7 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT)
THE AMAZING RACE-In a final showdown to avoid elimination, two racers struggle to master a traditional Russian lawn game.  Phil Keoghan hosts.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Cocoa on October 26, 2010, 09:32:49 PM
two racers means that the Russian Lawn task is a Roadblock. (I guess? :lol:)
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prama on October 27, 2010, 06:12:40 AM
"In a final showdown to avoid elimination.."

Does it means that the previous leg (leg 6) was the Non-Elimination Leg? So in leg 7 we will have elimination round with 6 teams left. Gosh, i guess we'll have another linear leg.. russia to russia.. i hope not  :(
Well, i'm just guessing  :duno: ;)
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: theschnauzers on October 27, 2010, 12:09:03 PM
In recent seasons, when there has been two legs in the same city (and not just the same country), there seems to be an NEL associated with one of the two legs.

The way I'm reading the episode descriptions for both St. Petersburg legs, I'm guessing the first leg may be an NEL.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: DrRox on October 27, 2010, 01:57:33 PM
One of the patterns I have seen on TAR....is they use the first 6 episodes to get rid of 5 teams.....then the next 5/6 episodes to get rid of 3 teams......then the finale. They move the NELs around.......but seems to work out pretty close.

Sort of like chess...........the opening, the middle game, the ending.

If anything, I would think Russia I is elimination and Russia II is NEL.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: TarJunkie999 on October 29, 2010, 08:19:49 PM
From CBS:
Quote
Sunday, Nov. 7 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT)
THE AMAZING RACE-In a final showdown to avoid elimination, two racers struggle to master a traditional Russian lawn game.  Phil Keoghan hosts.

wonder if this could be "Gorodki" or "Bunnock", both variations of the Swedish lawn game called Kubb.

info here (http://www.tradgames.org.uk/games/Kubb.htm)

Gorodki World Championships 2006 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfDXWfo7kxg)

Constanta-sport (http://www.const-sport.ru/review_eng.php?subaction=showfull&id=1116179288&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1&)

YouTube - Gorodki in St. Petersburg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-zF7EOUftA&feature=related)

YouTube - Everything you ever wanted to know about playing Gorodki (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8wi4QCbC7o&feature=related)  :lol:

who knew    :groan:    even Lenin played Gorodki (http://strange-games.blogspot.com/2007/10/gorodki-russian-street-skittles.html)   :lol3: 

wonder if TAR filmed at the Gorodki Courts at the Peter and Paul Fortress (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/26810451)   ;)
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on October 30, 2010, 09:24:04 PM
Very nice, TarJunkie!! Thanks for all the info!!
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on October 31, 2010, 09:10:29 PM
From CBS:
Quote
Sunday, Nov. 7 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT)
THE AMAZING RACE-In a final showdown to avoid elimination, two racers struggle to master a traditional Russian lawn game.  Phil Keoghan hosts.



wonder if this could be "Gorodki" or "Bunnock", both variations of the Swedish lawn game called Kubb.

info here (http://www.tradgames.org.uk/games/Kubb.htm)

Gorodki World Championships 2006 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfDXWfo7kxg)

Constanta-sport (http://www.const-sport.ru/review_eng.php?subaction=showfull&id=1116179288&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1&)

YouTube - Gorodki in St. Petersburg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-zF7EOUftA&feature=related)

YouTube - Everything you ever wanted to know about playing Gorodki (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8wi4QCbC7o&feature=related)  :lol:

who knew    :groan:    even Lenin played Gorodki (http://strange-games.blogspot.com/2007/10/gorodki-russian-street-skittles.html)   :lol3: 

wonder if TAR filmed at the Gorodki Courts at the Peter and Paul Fortress (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/26810451)   ;)

I think you have the game based on the preview!!
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on October 31, 2010, 10:14:36 PM
Preview is up in post #3!!

Caps to follow in awhile....
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Slowhatch on October 31, 2010, 10:58:09 PM
Based on the photos of this page (http://www.const-sport.ru/review_eng.php?subaction=showfull&id=1116179288&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1&) and the promo caps, it looks like the gorodki takes place at the Peter and Paul fortress courtyards.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on October 31, 2010, 11:22:54 PM
You are sooooo GOOD, Slowhatch!!


CAPS: should have one or two of Claire's watch for time...



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Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Dånooky on October 31, 2010, 11:32:03 PM
looks like it's the home shoppers vs the Jumbas in the showdown for elimination :(
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on October 31, 2010, 11:53:30 PM
Nope. Check the Timeline...
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Dånooky on November 01, 2010, 12:17:23 AM
Nope. Check the Timeline...
the timeline lists the Jumbas as possibly eliminated on Russia II
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Paron on November 01, 2010, 12:32:21 AM
Nope. Check the Timeline...
the timeline lists the Jumbas as possibly eliminated on Russia II
Except they're decoys.  This is the final elimination leg for the Elimination Station teams.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 01, 2010, 12:54:21 AM

Except they're decoys.  This is the final elimination leg for the Elimination Station teams.

Okay Paron...want to prove that for us all?

That pre-supposes that
1) you have evidence of there being THREE decoy teams? That would be news to me...

2) You have proof that K/M are decoys? You have been persistently quoting this here and elsewhere so let's review your evidence... :tup:

:popcorn:
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 01, 2010, 12:59:47 AM
looks like it's the home shoppers vs the Jumbas in the showdown for elimination :(

Home shoppers =Brook/Claire.



the timeline lists the Jumbas as possibly eliminated on Russia II

Sure does...one of TWO possible teams.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Dånooky on November 01, 2010, 01:04:50 AM
looks like it's the home shoppers vs the Jumbas in the showdown for elimination :(

Home shoppers =Brook/Claire.



the timeline lists the Jumbas as possibly eliminated on Russia II

Sure does...one of TWO possible teams.
I don't get it why it's not compatible with the timeline. They could still be competing against Michael & Kevin for last place in Russia II, with the latter obviously being the losers if that's the case. I base this on Kevin being pessimistic on the preview and that, according to the timeline they have a 50% chance of being out. So far this Season has been full of flips already...
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 01, 2010, 01:10:36 AM
Brook and Claire were confirmed spotted both in Hong Kong and in Korea. They are not going anywhere this week.

I think perhaps you may mean Mallory and Gary? Very sadly, they have not been seen past this point...



Oh...okay, I think I get you. do you mean the CBS press promo mentioning two teams battling for elimination? Not the real/actual elimination? ??? 

In that case, I see what you are saying...but take a look at the cap that has Michael still trying with no one in the next lane just then. Looks like Brook is gone...
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Dånooky on November 01, 2010, 01:15:09 AM
Brook and Claire were confirmed spotted both in Hong Kong and in Korea. They are not going anywhere this week.

I think perhaps you may mean Mallory and Gary? Very sadly, they have not been seen past this point...

I think you are not understanding what I mean. I know perfectly well that B&C were seen in Hong Kong. I'm just saying that in this particular leg, they could have accidentally slipped to the bottom of the pack, climaxing in the Roadblock showdown foreshadowed by TV Guide (Cap 15) in which the girls beat the boys to the Pit Stop. This statement does not imply in any way that the girls are eliminated at any point, sorry if I did not make myself clearer.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Coutzy on November 01, 2010, 06:48:17 AM
For the time, in cap 9 it looks like either 3:30 or 6:15. Unable to tell which without enhancing the image.

EDIT: Working on enlargement now, trying to avoid pixellation as much as possible.

EDIT EDIT: Upon further review- The second hand is pointing roughly to the 3. The hour hand is in the general direction of 9 & 10 and the minute hand is somewhere around the 6.

I hypothesize the time is 9:30 and approx. 15 seconds. Whether it is AM or PM is another story.

(12 is to the bottom left in the pic, the watch is beginning to slide down her wrist as she struggles with the plate)
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: DrRox on November 01, 2010, 08:06:43 AM
Dånooky

I think your intrepretion from the previews is valid. To me, it shows that M/K got there early along with B/C. But as Peach has pointed out, Brooke finishes and leaves. I suspect that Michael had a really hard time and all the other teams came and went, except for the "other" team, mentioned in the press release. I think production wants us to think it is B/C. It may very well be B/C there at the end....I just dont think so. I think this will be like Lena/Kristie at the haybales.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 01, 2010, 09:23:23 AM
From CBS:
Quote
Sunday, Nov. 7 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT)
THE AMAZING RACE-In a final showdown to avoid elimination, two racers struggle to master a traditional Russian lawn game.  Phil Keoghan hosts.

Okay, sorry Dan, I wasn't getting your point.  :tup:

But let's look back at the actual quote anyway...it is two RACERS not two TEAMS.... which is moot since we know the lawn game will be a RB.

But pretty much the promos never give away the outcome for a particular team....

I read this as elimination leg, two racers struggling, and possibly suggesting the RB comes last. And infer that the whatever team is shown struggling may be safe.  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Coutzy on November 01, 2010, 09:27:23 AM
From CBS:
Quote
Sunday, Nov. 7 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT)
THE AMAZING RACE-In a final showdown to avoid elimination, two racers struggle to master a traditional Russian lawn game.  Phil Keoghan hosts.

Okay, sorry Dan, I wasn't getting your point.  :tup:

But let's look back at the actual quote anyway...it is two RACERS not two TEAMS.... which is moot since we know the lawn game will be a RB.

But pretty much the promos never give away the outcome for a particular team....

I read this as elimination leg, two racers struggling, and possibly suggesting the RB comes last. And infer that the whatever team is shown struggling may be safe.  :lol:

Don't the promos usually do that anyway?
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: katrinaplee on November 01, 2010, 10:19:27 AM
Would Kevin and Michael end up last place in Episode 7?  :'(

I wouldn't want that to happen. Is this true?
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: DrRox on November 01, 2010, 11:01:23 AM
CBS and WRP are very good at putting out short press releases and then putting "other" people in the preview to make viewers think their fav team is about to be eliminated. I doubt very seriously that either Brooke or Michael are the two racers alluded to in that press release.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Benedicto on November 01, 2010, 11:16:19 AM
Jill & Thomas hadn't been sighted like as obvious as the 2 F/F's on the final leg? Here's hope to them being eliminated  :groan: Actually, anyone winning except them would be one of the bests.

I hope Gary & Mallory survives though the preview shatters any hopes of them surviving but maybe hello, reverse-psychology? <3 and this leg they also got a foreshadowing confesh but it was Nick/Vicki who succumbed.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 01, 2010, 01:53:17 PM
CBS and WRP are very good at putting out short press releases and then putting "other" people in the preview to make viewers think their fav team is about to be eliminated. I doubt very seriously that either Brooke or Michael are the two racers alluded to in that press release.

Exactly.

Remember last week we saw Mallory going "Why is this so hard??" during the film detour...when she actually said it during her search for Duck End. Creative editing...
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 01, 2010, 01:59:09 PM
Would Kevin and Michael end up last place in Episode 7?  :'(

I wouldn't want that to happen. Is this true?

:welcome: to RFF Katrina! You can catch up on our spoilers in the TimeLine Thread, right   HERE    (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21999.msg524127.html#msg524127)  if you would like!
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: katrinaplee on November 01, 2010, 10:56:19 PM
Would Kevin and Michael end up last place in Episode 7?  :'(

I wouldn't want that to happen. Is this true?

:welcome: to RFF Katrina! You can catch up on our spoilers in the TimeLine Thread, right   HERE    (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21999.msg524127.html#msg524127)  if you would like!

Hello! Okay, I will. Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 01, 2010, 11:01:06 PM
TEAMS GO TO THE CIRCUS IN RUSSIA, BUT IT'S NOT ALL FUN AND GAMES WHEN MULTIPLE TEAMS MISREAD A CLUE, ULTIMATELY THREATENING THEIR POSITIONS IN THE GAME,
ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, NOV. 7

"I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong" (Russia) — Teams are clowning around when they learn a traditional Russian circus act, but it's no joke when multiple teams make a critical error and misread a clue, jeopardizing their positions in the Race, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, Nov. 7 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: theschnauzers on November 02, 2010, 12:29:23 AM
"Misread a clue."  Where have we heard that one before? :)
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Belle Book on November 02, 2010, 10:04:55 AM
TEAMS GO TO THE CIRCUS IN RUSSIA, BUT IT'S NOT ALL FUN AND GAMES WHEN MULTIPLE TEAMS MISREAD A CLUE, ULTIMATELY THREATENING THEIR POSITIONS IN THE GAME,
ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, NOV. 7

"I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong" (Russia) — Teams are clowning around when they learn a traditional Russian circus act, but it's no joke when multiple teams make a critical error and misread a clue, jeopardizing their positions in the Race, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, Nov. 7 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.


I sure hope the teams that misread a clue don't include Nat & Kat!  Of course, even if they do, I still believe they'll survive.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: north09 on November 02, 2010, 11:56:24 AM
Jill & Thomas hadn't been sighted like as obvious as the 2 F/F's on the final leg? Here's hope to them being eliminated  :groan: Actually, anyone winning except them would be one of the bests.

I hope Gary & Mallory survives though the preview shatters any hopes of them surviving but maybe hello, reverse-psychology? <3 and this leg they also got a foreshadowing confesh but it was Nick/Vicki who succumbed.

You may want to go back and check the photo of the three teams running in Hong Kong. It isn't clear, but the blue backpacks and clothes of the 3rd couple match Thomas & Jill. No one was actually seen on the final leg though. It is speculated that these would be our final three since the 4th place team is said to be hours behind. I personally find all 3 of the final teams worthy of winning this race.

I would love to see Gary & Mallory last longer than they do as well, but this would appear to be the end of the road for them.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 02, 2010, 01:08:49 PM
We also have the sightings in Korea...
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 02, 2010, 01:58:52 PM
Who have you seen in Korea?
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 02, 2010, 02:38:21 PM
Perhaps you can check the first post in the Timeline thread? All the info is there. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 02, 2010, 07:32:13 PM
Has anyone seen this new promo:
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/video/?pid=tmfm_lYlTez_qaMGORE1tYCWJdyNGz_P&vs=homepage&play=true (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/video/?pid=tmfm_lYlTez_qaMGORE1tYCWJdyNGz_P&vs=homepage&play=true)
Anyone want to break this down frame by frame?
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: tarobbsessed24 on November 02, 2010, 07:43:41 PM
if nick and vicki lie to michael and kevin .... (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;)
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 02, 2010, 08:14:36 PM
Thanks, Prophet. Going by the artwork in the background (photo source (http://bagatitsa.com/eng/projects.php)), they're at the Avtovo circus (location (http://maps.yandex.ru/-/CRXMUtR))
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Paron on November 02, 2010, 08:37:04 PM
if nick and vicki lie to michael and kevin .... (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;)
Nick's under-the-breath "moron" sounds like anger over being accused, so I think (and hope!) he didn't lie.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 02, 2010, 08:44:32 PM
And it looks like they're waiting to board a City Tour (http://www.citytourspb.ru/en/routes) bus at a stop next to the Church of the Savior on Blood (http://maps.yandex.ru/-/CRXMeut).
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Zack. on November 02, 2010, 10:29:01 PM
I think there might be an HoO bunch at the circus? Thomas/Jill, Kevin, and Claire are all running towards an outdoor cluebox together and I don't think that taxis would be enough to get them all there at the exact same time.

eta Nevermind that the caps have Jill/Thomas and Nick/Vicki performing the plate spinning at the same time  :groan:

But I get the feeling that circus might be a general task. Thomas is doing both the spinning and the accordion playing (though no one else is seen doing this), and unless they switch or get U-Turned, I don't see why he'd have to do both.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 03, 2010, 09:50:39 AM
The shot of teams walking was taken here (http://maps.yandex.ru/-/CRXCIwQ), about a block away from the church; I'm guessing when "multiple teams make a critical error" they got the wrong address or church name.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 03, 2010, 10:07:57 AM
Caps coming shortly...that means 30+ minutes :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 03, 2010, 10:10:01 AM
promo going up upstream!! post 4

Thanks for the help Slowhatch, you are a wonder!!
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 03, 2010, 10:11:05 AM
The way he's jumping (and the teams behind him) make me think they got hit with HoO at Avtovo. Also, I thought this season might set a record with two fake bears; but that bear might be real (see the ppt presentation here (http://www.russkie-prostori.com/ppt_item.aspx?ID=56)).
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 03, 2010, 10:13:29 AM
Just was going to say the BEAR is back!! :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 03, 2010, 11:01:44 AM
Has anyone seen this new promo:
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/video/?pid=tmfm_lYlTez_qaMGORE1tYCWJdyNGz_P&vs=homepage&play=true (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/video/?pid=tmfm_lYlTez_qaMGORE1tYCWJdyNGz_P&vs=homepage&play=true)
Anyone want to break this down frame by frame?

SURE!! :hearts:

Thanks for the link!


CAPS! Quality not as good as I would like, but will have to do for now...

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Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: milanissimo on November 03, 2010, 12:04:25 PM
I think that in cap 31 and 32 there  is ..Michael  ( next to Thomas)...he is the only one who  wear  grey trousers and dark shirt(brook wears red shirt ,kat wears dark trousers,stephanie wears dark shirt and dark trousers)Nick wears red shirt ,vicky  is total black(gary and mallory  :duno:)..compared to cap 17  I think he is Micheal
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 03, 2010, 02:29:15 PM
Lots of pretty shadows for you at the church, Chateau!! :luvu:

Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: TexasLady on November 03, 2010, 02:40:12 PM
It looks like they have to lift the plate and balance it on the pointed sticks placed around the arena barrier.

Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Chateau d If on November 03, 2010, 02:50:57 PM
And keep them spinning!
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: TexasLady on November 03, 2010, 03:12:15 PM
And keep them spinning!

 :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 03, 2010, 03:49:09 PM
Here is a slide of photos with text from promo 2. It appears that Nick decieves Brooke\Claire and Michael\Kevin, but this could be a fabrication.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: TarJunkie999 on November 03, 2010, 04:45:19 PM
Number 37 has me confused.  If that's really Phil, why is he standing at the gorodki courts (roadblock)?   :groan:  We never see the host at a roadblock, let alone anywhere else but the pitstop during the race (unless if he is coming to tell the last place team that everyone else has finished and they have been eliminated).   :duno:

Oh, OK, must be recording his stand-up... intersting, showing a stand-up in with the previews.  LOL  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 03, 2010, 04:47:07 PM
Well, now...I had expected the cap below to be near the church. But it's actually at Muchnoy bridge (http://www.saint-petersburg.com/bridges/muchnoy-bridge.asp), quite a bit farther down the canal. (map and viewpoint (http://maps.yandex.ru/-/CRX9Ztt)) The only other church, if you continue down the canal, is the Sailor's Cathedral, and the names are not similar. ???
(And he seems to be headed in the opposite direction--away from the church/bus stop ???)
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Belle Book on November 03, 2010, 06:29:47 PM
Here is a slide of photos with text from promo 2. It appears that Nick decieves Brooke\Claire and Michael\Kevin, but this could be a fabrication.

It's also possible that Nick didn't intentionally mislead Brook & Claire and Michael & Kevin, but Kevin mistakenly believes that Nick did so.  But I doubt Michael & Kevin are the ones going home, fortunately for them.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 03, 2010, 06:33:46 PM
Well, now...I had expected the cap below to be near the church. But it's actually at Muchnoy bridge (http://www.saint-petersburg.com/bridges/muchnoy-bridge.asp), quite a bit farther down the canal. (map and viewpoint (http://maps.yandex.ru/-/CRX9Ztt)) The only other church, if you continue down the canal, is the Sailor's Cathedral, and the names are not similar. ???

Good job on noticing that. I don't know what Nick is doing down there.

The teams are clearly seen at the Church of the Savior on Blood in several of those caps. How early in the leg do you guys think this is?

One interesting fact is that this site: http://www.sacred-destinations.com/russia/st-petersburg-church-of-savior-on-blood.htm (http://www.sacred-destinations.com/russia/st-petersburg-church-of-savior-on-blood.htm) lists the hours of the church as opening at 11am. If this clue is first they may have to wait. Almost all of the shots in that promo are from outside the church, so they may be there a while.

It looks like that Mike and Kevin confront Nick and Vicki there too.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 03, 2010, 06:36:19 PM
Here is a slide of photos with text from promo 2. It appears that Nick decieves Brooke\Claire and Michael\Kevin, but this could be a fabrication.

It's also possible that Nick didn't intentionally mislead Brook & Claire and Michael & Kevin, but Kevin mistakenly believes that Nick did so.  But I doubt Michael & Kevin are the ones going home, fortunately for them.

Belle Book


You may be right, a lot of times the editors sort of magnify these little issues to get more viewers.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: NoluckBoston on November 03, 2010, 06:52:06 PM
Please excuse me if i missed this in this thread,

Any chance that there is a Intersection and that why we see Brook and Kevin together and The Docs and Bikers?
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 03, 2010, 06:56:41 PM
Please excuse me if i missed this in this thread,

Any chance that there is a Intersection and that why we see Brook and Kevin together and The Docs and Bikers?

No, there are seven teams. If those you said are together and Chad/Stephanie were with Jill/ Thomas (as an example) who do Gary/Mallory go with?

However, there could be one in Oman as they usually do it when there are six teams.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Cocoa on November 03, 2010, 07:46:49 PM
Number 37 has me confused.  If that's really Phil, why is he standing at the gorodki courts (roadblock)?   :groan:  We never see the host at a roadblock, let alone anywhere else but the pitstop during the race (unless if he is coming to tell the last place team that everyone else has finished and they have been eliminated).   :duno:

Oh, OK, must be recording his stand-up... intersting, showing a stand-up in with the previews.  LOL  :lol:

You are thinking waaay too much. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Levi Rinno on November 03, 2010, 08:07:18 PM
Please excuse me if i missed this in this thread,

Any chance that there is a Intersection and that why we see Brook and Kevin together and The Docs and Bikers?

No, there are seven teams. If those you said are together and Chad/Stephanie were with Jill/ Thomas (as an example) who do Gary/Mallory go with?

However, there could be one in Oman as they usually do it when there are six teams.
New here, but didn't they do that when there were eight once before?
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 03, 2010, 08:12:51 PM
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New here, but didn't they do that when there were eight once before?
  :tup: I think it was the bungee jump at Hamburg.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 03, 2010, 08:19:02 PM
New here, but didn't they do that when there were eight once before?
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I think you may be right but the point is there has to be an even number and there are not this time.

BTW
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Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Zack. on November 03, 2010, 11:26:34 PM
With the Intersection talk and the multiple promos, one question comes to mind: where's Gary/Mallory?

I know they're likely to be eliminated here, but what if it's the opposite? What if they're ahead, either from a FF or just plain skill (and then get bunched in Oman and lose next leg). Did Phil explicitly state that the sheep head was the only FF this season?
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 03, 2010, 11:32:31 PM
Gary and Mallory are only one POSSIBLE elim...
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Zack. on November 03, 2010, 11:47:02 PM
Gary and Mallory are only one POSSIBLE elim...

I understand that  :tup:

My thinking was that every other team is in a promo but them, which I initially thought implied their boot (rather than Michael/Kevin who were heavily featured, or even Chad/Stephenie who had at least one clip) since the things that the previews build up aren't usually fatal.

But now I think that they aren't showing Gary/Mallory because they don't want to spoil the use of the FF. I'm pretty sure Meghan/Cheyne got ignored in the previews before they won their FF, as did Ken/Tina, so that it wouldn't be completely obvious they got it. Unlike in previous editions (15 and 8 come to mind, as does 16 I think), Phil didn't explicitly state that this was the only FF in the race, which suggests that there's another one attempted/completed somewhere.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: tarflyonthewall on November 03, 2010, 11:56:38 PM
Doesn't suggest a thing to me -- they could just be cutting the explanation they way they got rid of "a Road Block is a task that only one person can perform" and "a Detour is a choice between two tasks, each with its own pros and cons".
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 04, 2010, 07:27:44 AM
With the Intersection talk and the multiple promos, one question comes to mind: where's Gary/Mallory?

I know they're likely to be eliminated here, but what if it's the opposite? What if they're ahead, either from a FF or just plain skill (and then get bunched in Oman and lose next leg). Did Phil explicitly state that the sheep head was the only FF this season?

I suppose it is possible that they force one team to do a FF in order to have the other six do an Intersection. However, this sort of conclusion seems to me to be the result of over-analyzation.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Jobby on November 04, 2010, 07:35:46 AM
With the Intersection talk and the multiple promos, one question comes to mind: where's Gary/Mallory?

I know they're likely to be eliminated here, but what if it's the opposite? What if they're ahead, either from a FF or just plain skill (and then get bunched in Oman and lose next leg). Did Phil explicitly state that the sheep head was the only FF this season?

I suppose it is possible that they force one team to do a FF in order to have the other six do an Intersection. However, this sort of conclusion seems to me to be the result of over-analyzation.

Highly doubt so.... :groan: :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: gator27 on November 04, 2010, 07:38:33 AM
With the Intersection talk and the multiple promos, one question comes to mind: where's Gary/Mallory?

I know they're likely to be eliminated here, but what if it's the opposite? What if they're ahead, either from a FF or just plain skill (and then get bunched in Oman and lose next leg). Did Phil explicitly state that the sheep head was the only FF this season?

I suppose it is possible that they force one team to do a FF in order to have the other six do an Intersection. However, this sort of conclusion seems to me to be the result of over-analyzation.

Because the FF is optional, they could still end up with an odd number of teams at the Intersection.  Then the Intersection would not work.  As said earlier, you won't have an Intersection in a leg with an odd number of teams.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: AmazingRace on November 04, 2010, 07:57:20 AM
I think Mallory says the title!
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 04, 2010, 08:24:32 AM
With the Intersection talk and the multiple promos, one question comes to mind: where's Gary/Mallory?

I know they're likely to be eliminated here, but what if it's the opposite? What if they're ahead, either from a FF or just plain skill (and then get bunched in Oman and lose next leg). Did Phil explicitly state that the sheep head was the only FF this season?

I suppose it is possible that they force one team to do a FF in order to have the other six do an Intersection. However, this sort of conclusion seems to me to be the result of over-analyzation.

Highly doubt so.... :groan: :groan:

This entire conversation is an over-analyzation. Analysis reaches a certain point called pure speculation. When one reaches this point, it is best to just wait for the episode to air.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 04, 2010, 08:25:05 AM
I think Mallory says the title!

Or Brooke; she seems to be their favorite racer to quote.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Cocoa on November 04, 2010, 09:07:23 AM
With the Intersection talk and the multiple promos, one question comes to mind: where's Gary/Mallory?

I know they're likely to be eliminated here, but what if it's the opposite? What if they're ahead, either from a FF or just plain skill (and then get bunched in Oman and lose next leg). Did Phil explicitly state that the sheep head was the only FF this season?

I suppose it is possible that they force one team to do a FF in order to have the other six do an Intersection. However, this sort of conclusion seems to me to be the result of over-analyzation.

Highly doubt so.... :groan: :groan:

This entire conversation is an over-analyzation. Analysis reaches a certain point called pure speculation. When one reaches this point, it is best to just wait for the episode to air.

You hit the nail on the head! :lol3:

Yeah. I was  B:) of a possible FF during Guilin, China leg and that was the result of over analyzation that made me ban for a period of time. ;) It's good, but sometimes, we just have to keep our ideas in mind and wait until it happens on the race. You don't have to let the world know that you had idea. :lol:

Okay, moving on...... :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 04, 2010, 09:41:14 AM
As long as we're changing the subject..

Did anything come of the shadow analysis that would help us understand the timing of arrival at the church?
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 04, 2010, 10:11:14 AM
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Did anything come of the shadow analysis that would help us understand the timing of arrival at the church?
Fwiw Brooke and the Jumbas are approaching from the north side and the doctors and N/V from the south; and N/V are the only ones carrying backpacks for some reason.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 04, 2010, 12:09:12 PM
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Did anything come of the shadow analysis that would help us understand the timing of arrival at the church?
Fwiw Brooke and the Jumbas are approaching from the north side and the doctors and N/V from the south; and N/V are the only ones carrying backpacks for some reason.

If Brooke and Kevin are approaching from the north (caps 24 and 25) then since their shadows fall to their right the sun is still in the east. This would indicate that it is earlier than not. This may be the first location they must go to.

Also, on the second promo Brook is talking about the circus while riding in a taxi. Perhaps they take the bus to the church and then a taxi to the circus.

Does anyone have any ideas on why Nick was down the road from the church in that one shot?
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 04, 2010, 12:21:06 PM
In case anyone didn't know the last Pit Stop, St. Isaac's Cathedral is just down the road from the The Church of the Savior on Spilled Blood. In the picture here the cathedral is A and the arrow points to the church.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on November 04, 2010, 01:54:21 PM
In case anyone didn't know the last Pit Stop, St. Isaac's Cathedral is just down the road from the The Church of the Savior on Spilled Blood. In the picture here the cathedral is A and the arrow points to the church.
Your red arrow is off just a bit
The Church of the Savior on Spilled Blood (sic) is actually where my stylish blue arrow is pointing...
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 04, 2010, 02:06:06 PM
In case anyone didn't know the last Pit Stop, St. Isaac's Cathedral is just down the road from the The Church of the Savior on Spilled Blood. In the picture here the cathedral is A and the arrow points to the church.
Your red arrow is off just a bit
The Church of the Savior on Spilled Blood (sic) is actually where my stylish blue arrow is pointing...

Thanks pneumonia.

Since they are so close can it be assumed that they go to the church first? Also does anyone know where the circus is in relation to the church?
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: apskip on November 04, 2010, 03:26:00 PM
It's probably st. Petersburg State Circus, Address: Fontanka embankment, either 3 or 65 with its 2345 seats. Metro stop is: Gostiny Dvor

Here is a Cyrillic language description of this circus. I don't remember seeing any Cyrillic readers in the new Languages thread.

The metro map to get there is: http://www.saint-petersburg.com/images/transport/saint-petersburg-metro-map.gif

Gostiny Dvor is at the intersection of the M2 and M3 lines near the center of this map




  
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on November 04, 2010, 03:33:32 PM
It's probably st. Petersburg State Circus, Address: Fontanka embankment, 65 with its 2345 seats. 
Slowhatch figured it out back here:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23560.msg570513.html#msg570513
Автово Circus
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 04, 2010, 03:35:47 PM
It's probably st. Petersburg State Circus, Address: Fontanka embankment, 65 with its 2345 seats.

Where is the RB assumed to be?
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on November 04, 2010, 03:40:28 PM
My mappage... discuss.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 04, 2010, 03:43:13 PM
So its not the St Petersburg Circus as someone speculated?
It would appear from this that the Roadblock occurs before the Detour.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 04, 2010, 03:49:52 PM
It's definitely Avtovo; you can see most of the name in the cap.
I haven't seen any red cards, but the gorodki is the RB? And since they take taxis to the circus, I have no idea what the bus is for.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 04, 2010, 04:52:28 PM
Why would the gorodki not be the RB? Only one member from each team is seen doing it. The DT is a choice between the plate spinning and the accordion playing.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 04, 2010, 04:56:36 PM
It's definitely Avtovo; you can see most of the name in the cap.
I haven't seen any red cards, but the gorodki is the RB? And since they take taxis to the circus, I have no idea what the bus is for.

It doesn't look like the bus is even used by the teams as everything is too close together for that. I can definitely see how the leg could work out like this:

1. Teams go to the Church first and wait for it to open (some teams may get lost or misdirect others between the PS and the church)
2. They do the RB at Gorodki all arriving at similar times
3. Some teams take longer than others there
4. They do the Detour at the circus
5. The Pit Stop is somewhere closer to the circus
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: mswood on November 04, 2010, 09:49:55 PM
Jill & Thomas hadn't been sighted like as obvious as the 2 F/F's on the final leg? Here's hope to them being eliminated  :groan: Actually, anyone winning except them would be one of the bests.

I hope Gary & Mallory survives though the preview shatters any hopes of them surviving but maybe hello, reverse-psychology? <3 and this leg they also got a foreshadowing confesh but it was Nick/Vicki who succumbed.
Why the dislike of Jill and THomas.  They seemed to be above average racers, they haven't been rude or mean to other racers or locals, and they certainly haven't behaved as badly as many, many teams have over the years.  In fact so far this season has had fairly well behaved teams across the board.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Cocoa on November 04, 2010, 11:57:23 PM
Jill & Thomas hadn't been sighted like as obvious as the 2 F/F's on the final leg? Here's hope to them being eliminated  :groan: Actually, anyone winning except them would be one of the bests.

I hope Gary & Mallory survives though the preview shatters any hopes of them surviving but maybe hello, reverse-psychology? <3 and this leg they also got a foreshadowing confesh but it was Nick/Vicki who succumbed.
Why the dislike of Jill and THomas.  They seemed to be above average racers, they haven't been rude or mean to other racers or locals, and they certainly haven't behaved as badly as many, many teams have over the years.  In fact so far this season has had fairly well behaved teams across the board.

Because they're boring? :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: DrRox on November 05, 2010, 12:23:05 AM
Jill & Thomas hadn't been sighted like as obvious as the 2 F/F's on the final leg? Here's hope to them being eliminated  :groan: Actually, anyone winning except them would be one of the bests.

I hope Gary & Mallory survives though the preview shatters any hopes of them surviving but maybe hello, reverse-psychology? <3 and this leg they also got a foreshadowing confesh but it was Nick/Vicki who succumbed.
Why the dislike of Jill and THomas.  They seemed to be above average racers, they haven't been rude or mean to other racers or locals, and they certainly haven't behaved as badly as many, many teams have over the years.  In fact so far this season has had fairly well behaved teams across the board.

Because they're boring? :lol:

How do you know? Have you meet them?
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: mswood on November 05, 2010, 12:23:59 AM
Really thats never been a criteria for myself on who I want to win (or who I want more then anyone else to lose).  That would be the rough equivalent of saying the racer I want to win the most is Jonathan (as he was never boring, an unmitigating ass and a blight on humanity perhaps but not boring).

Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 05, 2010, 12:34:35 AM
Jill & Thomas hadn't been sighted like as obvious as the 2 F/F's on the final leg? Here's hope to them being eliminated  :groan: Actually, anyone winning except them would be one of the bests.

I hope Gary & Mallory survives though the preview shatters any hopes of them surviving but maybe hello, reverse-psychology? <3 and this leg they also got a foreshadowing confesh but it was Nick/Vicki who succumbed.
Why the dislike of Jill and THomas.  They seemed to be above average racers, they haven't been rude or mean to other racers or locals, and they certainly haven't behaved as badly as many, many teams have over the years.  In fact so far this season has had fairly well behaved teams across the board.

Because they're boring? :lol:

NOT boring. :lol: At all.

Remember Terence's edit? About as far from the real life Terence as it is possible to be. Editing can do whatever it wants... remember that what you see is often nothing like what happened.  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Cocoa on November 05, 2010, 03:54:12 AM
My sentence ends with a question mark. I didn't really mean I don't like them because they are boring. I just took the common answer when one is asked why are they disliked. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Jobby on November 05, 2010, 04:13:14 AM
Jill & Thomas hadn't been sighted like as obvious as the 2 F/F's on the final leg? Here's hope to them being eliminated  :groan: Actually, anyone winning except them would be one of the bests.

I hope Gary & Mallory survives though the preview shatters any hopes of them surviving but maybe hello, reverse-psychology? <3 and this leg they also got a foreshadowing confesh but it was Nick/Vicki who succumbed.
Why the dislike of Jill and THomas.  They seemed to be above average racers, they haven't been rude or mean to other racers or locals, and they certainly haven't behaved as badly as many, many teams have over the years.  In fact so far this season has had fairly well behaved teams across the board.

Because they're boring? :lol:

NOT boring. :lol: At all.

Remember Terence's edit? About as far from the real life Terence as it is possible to be. Editing can do whatever it wants... remember that what you see is often nothing like what happened.  :tup:

I knew TAR was trying to screw up Terence and Sarah's edit and in real life the two are no where near what they're edited to be.

As for Jill and Thomas, maybe let's not say they're boring.. but rather.. the other teams are relatively more entertaining and fun to watch? :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: gator27 on November 05, 2010, 06:48:24 AM

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2017/ep%207%20St%20Petersburg%202/TAR17ep7capspr10037.jpg)3

It's definitely Avtovo; you can see most of the name in the cap.
I haven't seen any red cards, but the gorodki is the RB? And since they take taxis to the circus, I have no idea what the bus is for.

It doesn't look like the bus is even used by the teams as everything is too close together for that. I can definitely see how the leg could work out like this:

1. Teams go to the Church first and wait for it to open (some teams may get lost or misdirect others between the PS and the church)
2. They do the RB at Gorodki all arriving at similar times
3. Some teams take longer than others there
4. They do the Detour at the circus
5. The Pit Stop is somewhere closer to the circus

The way he's jumping (and the teams behind him) make me think they got hit with HoO at Avtovo. Also, I thought this season might set a record with two fake bears; but that bear might be real (see the ppt presentation here (http://www.russkie-prostori.com/ppt_item.aspx?ID=56)).

Based on vidcaps and the comments of others, it seems the Hours of Operation (HoO) bunching is at the circus.

And we need to fit a SpeedBump in there somewhere.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 05, 2010, 07:52:57 AM
We had all forgotten about the speed bump, gator. However I thought the working assumption was that the detour was the last task as it is much farther from the PS than the RB is.
Remember the church museum opens at 11 am and it looked the the sun was still in the east on caps 24 and 25.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Belle Book on November 05, 2010, 10:01:06 AM
Jill & Thomas hadn't been sighted like as obvious as the 2 F/F's on the final leg? Here's hope to them being eliminated  :groan: Actually, anyone winning except them would be one of the bests.

I hope Gary & Mallory survives though the preview shatters any hopes of them surviving but maybe hello, reverse-psychology? <3 and this leg they also got a foreshadowing confesh but it was Nick/Vicki who succumbed.
Why the dislike of Jill and THomas.  They seemed to be above average racers, they haven't been rude or mean to other racers or locals, and they certainly haven't behaved as badly as many, many teams have over the years.  In fact so far this season has had fairly well behaved teams across the board.

I don't really dislike Jill & Thomas -- or at least Jill.  I mildly dislike Thomas when he's acting superior because he had a college education, but the main reason why I don't love them is because I like most of the other teams more.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 05, 2010, 10:08:13 AM
I think we need to get back on track on this thread. We were talking about the order of tasks in Episode 7.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: DrRox on November 05, 2010, 10:31:11 AM
Slowhatch......

I think the backpacks are already on the bus. I think teams without backpacks got there early, put their backpacks on the bus, then went sightseeing to wait out the departure time. Screencaps 18,19,20 look like a queue to get on the bus. Maybe one of those........."Get a departure time and take a charter bus" deals to another location. I see no indication of anything to do with that church or its museum. I think it is get a charter bus in the square in front of the church. Four teams are seen.....N/K, N/V, M/K, and B/C. Since the Peter and Paul Fortress is on its own little island, there may be driving restrictions there. So Production gets them charter buses to take them there? The teams without backpacks could just be sightseeing around the area waiting for the bus to leave at a certain time. If that is the case, then it appears that K/N helped Nick and Vicki find the location of the bus.

I think it is...detour first, then roadblock. The preview from last week sort of spells that out......with two racers fighting it out with the lawn game to escape elimination.

Looks like Jill/Thomas tried both sides of the detour.......plates or accordian. Stephanie is seen at the P and P fortress. No Gary or Mallory in any shots that I could see.

The 3 missing teams could be sitting on the bus for all we know.


Btw, St Petersburg is @ 60 degrees North Latitude. The sun will go down, but it will not get dark at that time of year. Pretty much the same as Anchorage, Ak at that time of year.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 05, 2010, 11:33:39 AM
Slowhatch......

I think the backpacks are already on the bus. I think teams without backpacks got there early, put their backpacks on the bus, then went sightseeing to wait out the departure time. Screencaps 18,19,20 look like a queue to get on the bus. Maybe one of those........."Get a departure time and take a charter bus" deals to another location. I see no indication of anything to do with that church or its museum. I think it is get a charter bus in the square in front of the church. Four teams are seen.....N/K, N/V, M/K, and B/C. Since the Peter and Paul Fortress is on its own little island, there may be driving restrictions there. So Production gets them charter buses to take them there? The teams without backpacks could just be sightseeing around the area waiting for the bus to leave at a certain time. If that is the case, then it appears that K/N helped Nick and Vicki find the location of the bus.

I think it is...detour first, then roadblock. The preview from last week sort of spells that out......with two racers fighting it out with the lawn game to escape elimination.

Looks like Jill/Thomas tried both sides of the detour.......plates or accordian. Stephanie is seen at the P and P fortress. No Gary or Mallory in any shots that I could see.

The 3 missing teams could be sitting on the bus for all we know.


Btw, St Petersburg is @ 60 degrees North Latitude. The sun will go down, but it will not get dark at that time of year. Pretty much the same as Anchorage, Ak at that time of year.

DrRox, you have a lot of good info there. The idea about boarding the bus in front of the church actually makes a lot of sense and explains a few things. It looks like G/M C/S and J/T may be behind the first group although they could be on the bus.

Why do you think that the detour is first? It looked like on the map that it would make more sense for them to go over to Gorodki and then head south towards the circus. I know the promo made it look that way but I have found that those can be deceptive.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: gator27 on November 05, 2010, 11:45:37 AM

Why do you think that the detour is first? It looked like on the map that it would make more sense for them to go over to Gorodki and then head south towards the circus. I know the promo made it look that way but I have found that those can be deceptive.

If you visit the TAR 17 Maps Thread, you will see many excellent maps created by Neobie.  You will notice that many routes loop back on themselves.  In short, the order of an episode is not designed to make "map sense".  The producers have other reasons for their construction of a TAR leg.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 05, 2010, 11:56:51 AM

Why do you think that the detour is first? It looked like on the map that it would make more sense for them to go over to Gorodki and then head south towards the circus. I know the promo made it look that way but I have found that those can be deceptive.

If you visit the TAR 17 Maps Thread, you will see many excellent maps created by Neobie.  You will notice that many routes loop back on themselves.  In short, the order of an episode is not designed to make "map sense".  The producers have other reasons for their construction of a TAR leg.

That's very true, but the only problem I see is that that explanation almost makes the leg too easy to figure out. I find it hard to believe that Brook and Claire and Michael and Kevin are fighting it out at the end. If that is true then we know that B/C will not be eliminated and having the promo basically telling us who will be eliminated does not make sense to me.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Coutzy on November 05, 2010, 12:00:12 PM

Why do you think that the detour is first? It looked like on the map that it would make more sense for them to go over to Gorodki and then head south towards the circus. I know the promo made it look that way but I have found that those can be deceptive.

If you visit the TAR 17 Maps Thread, you will see many excellent maps created by Neobie.  You will notice that many routes loop back on themselves.  In short, the order of an episode is not designed to make "map sense".  The producers have other reasons for their construction of a TAR leg.

That's very true, but the only problem I see is that that explanation almost makes the leg too easy to figure out. I find it hard to believe that Brook and Claire and Michael and Kevin are fighting it out at the end. If that is true then we know that B/C will not be eliminated and having the promo basically telling us who will be eliminated does not make sense to me.

You forget that the promo does not tell the average person who is getting eliminated.

If you did not look at this forum, or indeed any spoilers, you wouldn't know that B/C make it to the top 3, thus it would all be up in the air. You're overthinking things, Prophet. Just relax.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 05, 2010, 12:24:48 PM
You forget that the promo does not tell the average person who is getting eliminated.

If you did not look at this forum, or indeed any spoilers, you wouldn't know that B/C make it to the top 3, thus it would all be up in the air. You're overthinking things, Prophet. Just relax.

I don't think the average fan would have even noticed that Brooke could be seen in that shot and thus would assume that Michael's ineptitude at tasks would lead to their elimination. Especially considering that they included and highlighted the overly dramatic quote by Kevin "we're going to be last because of this."
I think that if the average viewer saw M/K eliminated in Ep. 07 they would find it to be anti-climatic and be surprised that so much had been revealed in the promo.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: gator27 on November 05, 2010, 12:29:36 PM
:badhorse: Video evidence shows Michael struggling at the Roadblock.  The written promo says 2 teams struggle at the Roadblock.  Who is the second team?  My speculation is that is one of the teams not shown at the Roadblock.  I suspect Brook waltzes into the task, promptly knocks down the blocks, does her little dance and heads off.  Translation - Brook does not struggle with the Roadblock.

We will find out this Sunday.  Don't forget the time change!
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Coutzy on November 05, 2010, 12:34:06 PM
You forget that the promo does not tell the average person who is getting eliminated.

If you did not look at this forum, or indeed any spoilers, you wouldn't know that B/C make it to the top 3, thus it would all be up in the air. You're overthinking things, Prophet. Just relax.

I don't think the average fan would have even noticed that Brooke could be seen in that shot and thus would assume that Michael's ineptitude at tasks would lead to their elimination. Especially considering that they included and highlighted the overly dramatic quote by Kevin "we're going to be last because of this."
I think that if the average viewer saw M/K eliminated in Ep. 07 they would find it to be anti-climatic and be surprised that so much had been revealed in the promo.

But it hasn't. All that's been "revealed" is that Mike misses a couple of shots and that Kev thinks they are going to come last. Although I suppose that is a big deal considering they are literally the only team ever to face that situation.  :colealert:

Why are we making such a big deal of the promo? They do this nearly every week, yet we find that the team that was seemingly in so much trouble pulls through. I repeat: You are over thinking things
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 05, 2010, 12:37:26 PM
Video evidence shows Michael struggling at the Roadblock.  The written promo says 2 teams struggle at the Roadblock.  Who is the second team?  My speculation is that is one of the teams not shown at the Roadblock.  I suspect Brook waltzes into the task, promptly knocks down the blocks, does her little dance and heads off.  Translation - Brook does not struggle with the Roadblock.

We will find out this Sunday.  Don't forget the time change!

I definitely agree with that assessment. I too felt from those pictures that Brooke performed well.
We know that Stephanie, Thomas, and Kat do the task. I would guess that Gary does because it is his turn, and Vicki because she has only done two RB's.
Enjoy the show everyone!
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 05, 2010, 12:39:03 PM
You forget that the promo does not tell the average person who is getting eliminated.

If you did not look at this forum, or indeed any spoilers, you wouldn't know that B/C make it to the top 3, thus it would all be up in the air. You're overthinking things, Prophet. Just relax.

I don't think the average fan would have even noticed that Brooke could be seen in that shot and thus would assume that Michael's ineptitude at tasks would lead to their elimination. Especially considering that they included and highlighted the overly dramatic quote by Kevin "we're going to be last because of this."
I think that if the average viewer saw M/K eliminated in Ep. 07 they would find it to be anti-climatic and be surprised that so much had been revealed in the promo.

But it hasn't. All that's been "revealed" is that Mike misses a couple of shots and that Kev thinks they are going to come last. Although I suppose that is a big deal considering they are literally the only team ever to face that situation.  :colealert:

Why are we making such a big deal of the promo? They do this nearly every week, yet we find that the team that was seemingly in so much trouble pulls through. I repeat: You are over thinking things

We have all made too big of a deal out of this one leg for no particular reason. However your second paragraph proves my point that M/K will not be eliminated this week.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 05, 2010, 12:39:18 PM
The promo actually says two RACERS, not teams. They could be using the royal "we" to mean one team, or there really could be two teams struggling. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: apskip on November 05, 2010, 12:53:17 PM
It's probably st. Petersburg State Circus, Address: Fontanka embankment, either 3 or 65 with its 2345 seats. Metro stop is: Gostiny Dvor

Here is a Cyrillic language description of this circus. I don't remember seeing any Cyrillic readers in the new Languages thread.

The metro map to get there is: http://www.saint-petersburg.com/images/transport/saint-petersburg-metro-map.gif

Gostiny Dvor is at the intersection of the M2 and M3 lines near the center of this map

It appears that my hypothesis is incorrect. The Avtovo Circus is at Avtovskaya ul 1A Avtovo, metro stop Avtovo, second from the last to the south on line M1 (see above Metro map).  A map of that is here: http://www.lonelyplanet.com/russia/st-petersburg/entertainment-nightlife/circus/circus-in-avtovo


The St. Petersburg State circus has a huge performance space. The tent I see in the above photos of the Avtovo Circus is not going to hold 2345 people.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 05, 2010, 01:17:25 PM
It's probably st. Petersburg State Circus, Address: Fontanka embankment, either 3 or 65 with its 2345 seats. Metro stop is: Gostiny Dvor

Here is a Cyrillic language description of this circus. I don't remember seeing any Cyrillic readers in the new Languages thread.

The metro map to get there is: http://www.saint-petersburg.com/images/transport/saint-petersburg-metro-map.gif

Gostiny Dvor is at the intersection of the M2 and M3 lines near the center of this map

It appears that my hypothesis is incorrect. The Avtovo Circus is at Avtovskaya ul 1A Avtovo, metro stop Avtovo, second from the last to the south on line M1 (see above Metro map).  A map of that is here: http://www.lonelyplanet.com/russia/st-petersburg/entertainment-nightlife/circus/circus-in-avtovo


The St. Petersburg State circus has a huge performance space. The tent I see in the above photos of the Avtovo Circus is not going to hold 2345 people.

I thought someone had seen the word Avtovo in one of the caps.

update: it was Slowhatch here: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23560.msg570763.html#msg570763
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: DrRox on November 05, 2010, 02:21:52 PM
TEAMS GO TO THE CIRCUS IN RUSSIA, BUT IT'S NOT ALL FUN AND GAMES WHEN MULTIPLE TEAMS MISREAD A CLUE, ULTIMATELY THREATENING THEIR POSITIONS IN THE GAME,
ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, NOV. 7

"I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong" (Russia) — Teams are clowning around when they learn a traditional Russian circus act, but it's no joke when multiple teams make a critical error and misread a clue, jeopardizing their positions in the Race, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, Nov. 7 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.



From CBS:
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Sunday, Nov. 7 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT)
THE AMAZING RACE-In a final showdown to avoid elimination, two racers struggle to master a traditional Russian lawn game.  Phil Keoghan hosts.

I think to many people are doing like the racers.....not reading the clues, plenty of information there.

Remember from that movie, St Petersburg is famous for its "White Nights." I think Phil filmed his gorodki footage at "night."(no shadows)

Thanks to Peach, WP and thanks to Slowhatch and apskip for the circus info.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 05, 2010, 04:55:26 PM
I think the white nights theory is correct, but I am not sure how it helps to know when he is filming those.

Anyway I agree with peach that the statement about two racers may just mean that Mike and Kevin struggle with that task. The reason being that I don't think Gary will struggle with it and we know none of the other teams are eliminated here. (Unless the Chad/Stephanie sighting in Oman is false, because otherwise I could see them losing this one)

I think the eliminated team will be one of the ones who misreads a clue and "jeopardizes their position in the race." According to the timeline that should be G/M and they have already had some trouble finding things.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 05, 2010, 05:28:52 PM
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According to the timeline that should be G/M and they have already had some trouble finding things.

??? ??? ???

The Timeline doesn't say that at all, I don't think.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Belle Book on November 05, 2010, 05:50:05 PM
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According to the timeline that should be G/M and they have already had some trouble finding things.

??? ??? ???

The Timeline doesn't say that at all, I don't think.

Well, it doesn't specifically say that Gary & Mallory are the team that goes home.  All it says is that Gary & Mallory and Michael & Kevin weren't spotted beyond St. Petersburg.  Thus one of those two teams head for Elimination Station after St. Petersburg.  However, there are rumors that Michael & Kevin were doing a decoy run in South Korea, which indicates that they didn't go to Elimination Station.  Because of what we learned about the other teams (Chad & Stephanie being seen in Muscat, Nick & Vicky being seen in Hong Kong and the other three teams apparently being the Final 3 teams), that leaves us with Gary & Mallory.  Also, the promos often focus on a team who's safe.  No mention of Gary & Mallory -- but plenty of focus on Michael & Kevin.  It all adds up.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 05, 2010, 06:09:41 PM
Sadly, I agree, Belle Book. Gary and Mallory, despite being one of my favourite teams this season, look to be the next team to be Eliminated. Nick and Vicki, may I ask, how can these (sorry) idiots, make it so far. They probably haven't a clue what The Amazing Race is after that FastForward fiasco in the last leg (or one before?)
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 05, 2010, 06:38:53 PM
Well said Belle and Kiwi, exactly what I was thinking on all counts :tup:. I don't understand how it happens, but somehow they must get tripped up. The only way I see them lasting a little longer is if the C/S sighting in Muscat is flawed; all the other evidence looks solid.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Levi Rinno on November 05, 2010, 06:48:26 PM
I think Nick & Vicki, now that all the cannon fodder teams (and the stronger, but screwed Katie & Rachel) are gone, are pretty much Dandrewing or Brian & Ericka-ing their way through the race -- getting by only because someone makes a more egregious error than they do.  But unlike either of those teams, they don't see it unjustly rewarded with a F3 finish.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 05, 2010, 07:02:10 PM
I think Nick & Vicki, now that all the cannon fodder teams (and the stronger, but screwed Katie & Rachel) are gone, are pretty much Dandrewing or Brian & Ericka-ing their way through the race -- getting by only because someone makes a more egregious error than they do.  But unlike either of those teams, they don't see it unjustly rewarded with a F3 finish.

I like to call those kinds of teams cockroaches. This term was coined by Karlyn of Lyn and Karlyn in season 10 referring to themselves. They too went to the F3, anybody remember them or that quote?
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 05, 2010, 07:16:42 PM
I had forgotten that that was actually the title of an episode in season 10. It is the F4 leg of that year and is the leg with the famous tomato throwing task in Spain.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 05, 2010, 09:20:25 PM
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Teams are clowning around when they learn a traditional Russian circus act, but it's no joke when multiple teams make a critical error and misread a clue, jeopardizing their positions in the Race on the next episode of The Amazing Race.

So the critical error appears to happen during the circus challenge?
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Zack. on November 05, 2010, 09:48:28 PM
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Well, it doesn't specifically say that Gary & Mallory are the team that goes home.  All it says is that Gary & Mallory and Michael & Kevin weren't spotted beyond St. Petersburg.  Thus one of those two teams head for Elimination Station after St. Petersburg.  However, there are rumors that Michael & Kevin were doing a decoy run in South Korea, which indicates that they didn't go to Elimination Station.

TPTB can and have changed the number of teams that do decoy runs for whatever reason - Mel/Mike went to Sequesterville (though that was because they were *right* there) in TAR 14, and Marisa/Brooke did decoy runs in Portland in TAR 13. Geographically, it makes sense that they continue, but (and I think this goes for a lot of our spec based on spoilers) WRP can/will/and have changed protocol often.
Irregular pit stops. Random forced trasport, often inefficient. Airline connections through specified cities. NEL structure. More isolated task areas (though this season they're a lot better in that respect) - I don't think we can simply rely on precedent alone nowadays :(

(With all that said, Gary/Mallory are my pick for the boot  :'( )
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: DrRox on November 05, 2010, 10:04:14 PM
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Teams are clowning around when they learn a traditional Russian circus act, but it's no joke when multiple teams make a critical error and misread a clue, jeopardizing their positions in the Race on the next episode of The Amazing Race.

So the critical error appears to happen during the circus challenge?

That could be true Peach, but that pesky little comma in there makes me think it is a different event.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 05, 2010, 10:07:24 PM
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So the critical error appears to happen during the circus challenge?
I'm still guessing it pertains to the walkabout (although if they all get on the same bus I don't see how their positions would be "jeopardized"). Also, unless they did some photo-trickery, Nick is walking west: his "moron" comment might be self-chastisement.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: DrRox on November 05, 2010, 11:39:52 PM
I am with you slowhatch. I think something happens between the circus and the church. We get the teams bunched at the HoO at the circus. Then we could end up with a 5-2 or 4-3 split getting on the shuttle busses to the RB. I like shuttle bus better than my previous charter bus. TPTB could have just one bus making a couple of round trips to the fort. It's not that far away.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: theschnauzers on November 06, 2010, 12:11:36 AM
I think that comma makes the reference to the error separate from whatever task the teams are learning at the circus.  It's very cleverly worded to make one think that the error(s) by the teams are at the circus, but unless the rules of punctuation have changed, that comma separates two distinct clauses in the sentence.

Misreading the clue suggests teams went to the wrong place at some point, and that several teams made the same mistake.  Whether it's one joint error, or the same error by teams separately isn't clear, and it may be something where several teams reach the pit stop and have to go back and do something correctly.  (We're overdue for one of those, aren't we?  Just for the entertainment value.)
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Levi Rinno on November 06, 2010, 12:47:05 AM
Well, Nat & Kat and Nick & Vicki seem to be together at that church, so maybe their teams made the mistake?
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 06, 2010, 08:04:33 AM
Well, Nat & Kat and Nick & Vicki seem to be together at that church, so maybe their teams made the mistake?

I can see that happening as they seem to be wondering around looking frustrated, and I also agree with slowhatch that Nick could be criticizing himself.

The whole comma thing is getting a little carried away. 
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Belle Book on November 06, 2010, 09:12:54 AM
Well, Nat & Kat and Nick & Vicki seem to be together at that church, so maybe their teams made the mistake?

I agree that Nick & Vicki make the mistake but perhaps Brooke & Claire and Michael & Kevin are the other teams that make the critical mistake and Nat & Kat merely catch up to them and point out the right way.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 06, 2010, 11:54:06 AM
Well, Nat & Kat and Nick & Vicki seem to be together at that church, so maybe their teams made the mistake?

I agree that Nick & Vicki make the mistake but perhaps Brooke & Claire and Michael & Kevin are the other teams that make the critical mistake and Nat & Kat merely catch up to them and point out the right way.

Belle Book


There are obviously multiple different things that could happen in this case. It will be really hard to determine which idea is correct from the info we have.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 06, 2010, 01:34:04 PM
We should maybe have a twitvid today..could y'all watch please? If we have one, I can do caps tonight after work...
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: TrueNorth on November 06, 2010, 03:34:26 PM
Is it possible that misreading the clue could be forgetting to bring something with them to the pitstop therefore forcing them to either take a penalty or go back and get it?
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 06, 2010, 10:33:26 PM
Got some better caps...

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Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 06, 2010, 10:36:40 PM
# 1 and 2...red team and then Kevin behind Jill and Thomas

#3: Can we find the exact location of this wall?? Can someone find a matching pic? If so, we may be able to tell WHEN Thomas was there.

#4 and 5... Is this Nick and Vicki?? These frames come JUST before the caps of Steph and Chad spinning their plates...

The rest are to see if anyone can make out the destination on the front of the bus?? ???
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 06, 2010, 10:41:08 PM
Something TOUR? ???

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2017/ep%207%20St%20Petersburg%202/TAr17ep7busdest.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: DrRox on November 06, 2010, 10:45:40 PM
City Tour
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 07, 2010, 01:21:49 AM
If you add some brightness to the cap, the Pinkies can be seen behind Jumba. With the first three teams running in, I think it's like the Russian sub from an earlier season: the leading teams arrive very early in the morning and have to wait for the circus to open.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 07, 2010, 01:44:50 AM
Thanks Slowhatch!!
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 07, 2010, 06:59:39 AM
If you add some brightness to the cap, the Pinkies can be seen behind Jumba. With the first three teams running in, I think it's like the Russian sub from an earlier season: the leading teams arrive very early in the morning and have to wait for the circus to open.

Can we assume that the detour may be before the scene outside the church?
If so then N/K, N/V, M/K and B/C would finish the detour before the the others. This theory is supported by the fact that Jill and Thomas switch on the Detour tasks. This would also make it possible for C/S to be eliminated because Micheal will take a long time at the RB allowing C/S to catch up but she will not overtake him.
Here is my speculated order to the leg:

1. Detour; N/K, N/V, M/K and B/C have no trouble (the other three may get behind by misreading a clue)
2. Probably picking up several clues before getting to the RB
3. Those four arrive at about the same time
4. All but M/K finish and leave to check in to the PS
5. G/M, C/S and J/T arrive at the RB
6. G/M and J/T finish the RB leaving "two racers to battle it out"
7. Chad and Stephanie are eliminated and M/K slide several spots to sixth.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 07, 2010, 07:05:35 AM
Not sure if this matters but the circled team looks like Brooke and Claire.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: gator27 on November 07, 2010, 07:18:28 AM
Not sure if this matters but the circled team looks like Brooke and Claire.

To me the circled team looks more like Nick & Vicki.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 07, 2010, 07:23:36 AM
Not sure if this matters but the circled team looks like Brooke and Claire.

To me the circled team looks more like Nick & Vicki.

I can see that being a possibility. We already know both of those teams are there at the same time as M/K.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Cocoa on November 07, 2010, 08:19:02 AM
Not sure if this matters but the circled team looks like Brooke and Claire.

To me the circled team looks more like Nick & Vicki.

I second the motion. :lol: :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: DrRox on November 07, 2010, 08:25:46 AM
The circled team has backpacks on.........
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Jobby on November 07, 2010, 09:35:27 AM
Not sure if this matters but the circled team looks like Brooke and Claire.

To me the circled team looks more like Nick & Vicki.

I second the motion. :lol: :tup:

Wasn't the entire preview showing M/K running to N/V and asking them if they lied to them? The circled team has to be... Nick and Vicki? :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 07, 2010, 11:54:19 AM
Not sure if this matters but the circled team looks like Brooke and Claire.

To me the circled team looks more like Nick & Vicki.

Me too.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 07, 2010, 11:54:59 AM
I sent Chateau some shadow pics, hopefully he can help with the time question.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Levi Rinno on November 07, 2010, 11:58:37 AM
Not sure if this matters but the circled team looks like Brooke and Claire.

To me the circled team looks more like Nick & Vicki.

Me too.
I agree, too.  One of the team members looks too tall to be Brook or Claire, but seems to have Nick's frame.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Chateau d If on November 07, 2010, 12:52:25 PM
This shot was taken here thanks to Slowhatch between 12:21 and 12:55 pm (assumes June 6th).

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2017/ep%207%20St%20Petersburg%202/TAR17ep7preview0534.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Chateau d If on November 07, 2010, 01:19:21 PM
This shot was taken here between 10:20 and 10:58 am (assumes June 6th).

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23560.0;attach=170392;image)
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Chateau d If on November 07, 2010, 02:00:43 PM
This shot was taken here, thanks to Slowhatch,  between 10:40 and 10:59 am (assumes June 6th).

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23560.0;attach=170423;image)
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Chateau d If on November 07, 2010, 02:37:12 PM
This shot was taken here, thanks to Slowhatch, between 11:14 am and 12:08 pm (assumes June 6th).

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2017/ep%207%20St%20Petersburg%202/TAR17ep7capspr10165.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: colav10 on November 07, 2010, 02:42:33 PM
Just saw a promo for The Amazing Race during the Pats/Browns game. You can see Gary briefly at the Russian Lawn Game (Roadblock?) and he doesn't appear to have a problem with it.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: milanissimo on November 07, 2010, 02:43:55 PM
First Photo: There  are Michael  and another racer(I think Kat or Stephanie)

Second Photo:  There are  Thomas and Micheal
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 07, 2010, 02:53:11 PM
If those are from the promo I capped earlier...they may just be production people...lots of them about. I put anyone in a cap I wasn't sure about, up.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Chateau d If on November 07, 2010, 03:04:05 PM
This shot was taken between 11:16 and 11:50 am (assumes June 6th).

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2017/ep%207%20St%20Petersburg%202/TAR17ep7capspr10275.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: colav10 on November 07, 2010, 04:34:28 PM
It was a brief promo (voiceover was done by football announcer) between plays. Anyway, here is a picture of Gary from the promo (sorry for the bad image quality).

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/colav10/SDC10633.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: furybaby on November 07, 2010, 05:04:49 PM
You forget that the promo does not tell the average person who is getting eliminated.

If you did not look at this forum, or indeed any spoilers, you wouldn't know that B/C make it to the top 3, thus it would all be up in the air. You're overthinking things, Prophet. Just relax.

I don't think the average fan would have even noticed that Brooke could be seen in that shot and thus would assume that Michael's ineptitude at tasks would lead to their elimination. Especially considering that they included and highlighted the overly dramatic quote by Kevin "we're going to be last because of this."
I think that if the average viewer saw M/K eliminated in Ep. 07 they would find it to be anti-climatic and be surprised that so much had been revealed in the promo.

But it hasn't. All that's been "revealed" is that Mike misses a couple of shots and that Kev thinks they are going to come last. Although I suppose that is a big deal considering they are literally the only team ever to face that situation.  :colealert:

Why are we making such a big deal of the promo? They do this nearly every week, yet we find that the team that was seemingly in so much trouble pulls through. I repeat: You are over thinking things

his name is not Mike, it's Kevin  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 07, 2010, 05:08:21 PM
The father is Michael, furybaby.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: furybaby on November 07, 2010, 05:23:19 PM
The father is Michael, furybaby.

Yeah that XD I got mixed up since i was thinking about Kevin and then replying this comment o3o
Thanks~  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 07, 2010, 06:48:55 PM
Thank you Chateau!! You are AWESOME!!

Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: furybaby on November 07, 2010, 07:50:10 PM
Chad and Stephanie looks like their getting frustrated again. . . .  B:)
I would be upset if Gary And Mallory is eliminated .__. Their like the sun :OO
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: apskip on November 07, 2010, 09:15:25 PM
At the end of the prior episode, I could not believe that Phil made no mention of the SpeedBump that is supposed to be automatic for the last-place finisher in an NEL leg. This leg showed no SpeedBump at all, so someone at World Race Productions may have forgotten to put one in. How is this possible from a fairness point of view. Now, due to the penalties of Michael/Kevin and Chad/Stephanie (thanks, redskooky for the correction), Nick/Vicky would not have been eliminated by doing a task taking approximately 30 minutes. However, there's something rotten in Denmark( Or was it St. Petersburg?).
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Dånooky on November 07, 2010, 09:19:19 PM
At the end of the prior episode, I could not believe that Phil made no mention of the SpeedBump that is supposed to be automatic for the last-place finisher in an NEL leg. This leg showed no SpeedBump at all, so someone at World Race Productions may have forgotten to put one in. How is this possible from a fairness point of view. Now, due to the penalties of Michael/Kevin and Brook/Claire, Nick/Vicky would not have been eliminated by doing a task taking approximately 30 minutes. However, there's something rotten in Denmark( Or was it St. Petersburg?).
they probably edited out the Speedbump reference on the last episode after the editors chose to cut it from this one
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: DrRox on November 07, 2010, 09:23:56 PM
I would suspect that the speed bump was before the circus detour....Then with all the other drama in this episode....as Danoosky said......they just didnt show it. I feel sure that the interviewers will ask that after Nick/Vicki get eliminated. We will just have to wait till then to find out for sure.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Dånooky on November 07, 2010, 09:45:08 PM
**The following is just something I read and is by no means official**

There are rumors at s***** that there was no Speedbump as a credit due to a production mistake during the last leg in which one of the judges at the Piano Detour had told Nick & Vicki they were wrong when they were in fact right. They say Nick posted it in his FB.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: theschnauzers on November 07, 2010, 10:39:57 PM
Quote
There are rumors at s***** that there was no Speedbump as a credit due to a production mistake during the last leg in which one of the judges at the Piano Detour had told Nick & Vicki they were wrong when they were in fact right. They say Nick posted it in his FB.

That could well be the case, although its been a long time since a production credit was mentioned on air.  However, I'm not sure Nick could even post anything about it on FB without running afoul of CBS until they are eliminated, or the final episode has aired.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: DrRox on November 08, 2010, 01:01:51 AM
CBS posted a disclaimer in the ending credits about production hangups and team time credits. Doesnt mention Nick/Vicki by name, though.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: redskevin88 on November 08, 2010, 06:47:01 AM
At the end of the prior episode, I could not believe that Phil made no mention of the SpeedBump that is supposed to be automatic for the last-place finisher in an NEL leg. This leg showed no SpeedBump at all, so someone at World Race Productions may have forgotten to put one in. How is this possible from a fairness point of view. Now, due to the penalties of Michael/Kevin and Brook/Claire, Nick/Vicky would not have been eliminated by doing a task taking approximately 30 minutes. However, there's something rotten in Denmark( Or was it St. Petersburg?).

It's Michael & Kevin and Chad & Stephanie. And yeah, was there a speed bump? (I haven't watched the episode yet, football overruns suck)

Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: AmazingRace on November 08, 2010, 07:04:54 AM
I think Nick & Vicki did their Speedbump. The reason why they probably did'nt mention that there will be a Speedbump in Episode 6, could be because they planned to edit out the Speedbump task in this episode, as it was probably something insignificant(i.e Took less than 15 minutes to complete) and did not affect their placement anyways.  :duno:

Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 08, 2010, 07:37:17 AM
Can we assume that the detour may be before the scene outside the church?
If so then N/K, N/V, M/K and B/C would finish the detour before the the others. This theory is supported by the fact that Jill and Thomas switch on the Detour tasks. This would also make it possible for C/S to be eliminated because Micheal will take a long time at the RB allowing C/S to catch up but she will not overtake him.
Here is my speculated order to the leg:

1. Detour; N/K, N/V, M/K and B/C have no trouble  :yess:
2. Probably picking up several clues before getting to the RB  :yess:
3. Those four arrive at about the same time at the RB  :duno:
4. All but M/K finish and leave to check in to the PS  :yess:
5. G/M, C/S and J/T arrive at the RB  ;)
6. G/M and J/T finish the RB leaving "two racers to battle it out"  :groan:
7. Chad and Stephanie are eliminated and M/K slide several spots to sixth.  :groan:

Well at least I was close.  :'(
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 08, 2010, 09:28:40 AM
Fwiw, the Bank bridge is on the left and 1 Vladimirskiy prospekt is on the right.
Nat/Kat's taxi driver must have been a patient fellow, waiting all that time with their bags.
Also, the price of the Jumba taxi, even though he stayed with them from beginning to end (below), does seem excessive. (they just kept getting in and never bothered to check the meter/bargain/ask?)
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: mariamindy on November 08, 2010, 09:53:42 AM
I think Nick & Vicki did their Speedbump. The reason why they probably did'nt mention that there will be a Speedbump in Episode 6, could be because they planned to edit out the Speedbump task in this episode, as it was probably something insignificant(i.e Took less than 15 minutes to complete) and did not affect their placement anyways.  :duno:



May be true, but remember Michael and Kevin's speed bump in the Arctic? it was LITERALLY a 15 min wait and still, they made it from last place to first so those things can't be ignored... it looks fishy to me.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Jobby on November 08, 2010, 10:10:04 AM
**The following is just something I read and is by no means official**

There are rumors at s***** that there was no Speedbump as a credit due to a production mistake during the last leg in which one of the judges at the Piano Detour had told Nick & Vicki they were wrong when they were in fact right. They say Nick posted it in his FB.

I can't wait to hear about what Nick and Vicki has to say regarding this!!
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: DavidJunior on November 08, 2010, 10:24:16 AM
could it have been a task they had to do before the detour and maybe that's why it was edited out?

if they arrived at the detour, and the clue happened to be out in front of the circus gate, then they could very likely go, perform the task, and then make it back to the circus before it opened.

and they edited it out because it had no weight in the actual leg itself
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: DrRox on November 08, 2010, 10:58:34 AM
**The following is just something I read and is by no means official**

There are rumors at s***** that there was no Speedbump as a credit due to a production mistake during the last leg in which one of the judges at the Piano Detour had told Nick & Vicki they were wrong when they were in fact right. They say Nick posted it in his FB.

I can't wait to hear about what Nick and Vicki has to say regarding this!!

I am on Nick's facebook and fan page.....I do not see it posted on either one. He could have posted that and then deleted it. I would think that posting something like that would go against the confidentially agreement though, at least till they are eliminated or the race ends.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 08, 2010, 12:22:39 PM
could it have been a task they had to do before the detour and maybe that's why it was edited out?

if they arrived at the detour, and the clue happened to be out in front of the circus gate, then they could very likely go, perform the task, and then make it back to the circus before it opened.

and they edited it out because it had no weight in the actual leg itself

That makes more sense than anything else I have heard, but I still don't know why they didn't just show it or why Phil didn't say they had to do it. I just looked back at the leg on cbs.com and Phil said: "This is a non-elimination leg, so you will live to race another leg." And that was it.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: theschnauzers on November 08, 2010, 04:20:54 PM
Rob has obtained an official statement in another thread that confirms "production glitches" involving time credits for multiple teams and no speedbump.

As to the statement about production credits and penalties in the closing credits, that has been there going all the way back to the the first season.  I can't recall an instance though where so many teams were apparently affected.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Neobie on November 08, 2010, 04:36:03 PM
Production could have owned up to screwing up at the end of the last leg, like when they did in the leg ending with Sarah in Bologna...

That also explains why none of the second-half of the pack got departure times.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 08, 2010, 04:37:44 PM
HAve to really wonder if the leg was meant to be a NEL or not....
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: theschnauzers on November 08, 2010, 09:51:27 PM
I suspect the leg that was intended to be the NEL was the NEL. That way, leg 3 and leg 6 were the first two NELs, and I wouldn't be surprised if leg 9 is the third NEL this season, and given the likely location it would make sense for that to be the case.

I've gone back to my recording and freeze-framed the final end credit. It's the standard "time credits and penalties" language they've had all these years; and what we have in legs 6 and 7 was a perfect example.
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Neobie on November 16, 2010, 08:33:35 PM
Thanks to Chad/Stephanie sleeping in, we have the Pit Stop Hotel for Legs 6 and 7!

The Angleterre Hotel, right across from St Isaac's Cathedral. (The Pit Start for Leg 8 returned to the Cathedral for release.)
Title: Re: TAR 17 Ep 7 " I Want To Be In The Circus, That's Where I Belong!" (Russia)
Post by: Prophet on November 16, 2010, 08:35:50 PM
Very cool, Neobie!