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Title: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: TexasLady on October 17, 2010, 06:04:59 PM
Let's hope we will be on time tonight!

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Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: kwando1313 on October 17, 2010, 06:06:27 PM
I don't think it'll be on time.

It's already past 4 and there's still a game on....but at least it won't be a major delay...

Methinks about a 10-20 minute delay?
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: redwings8831 on October 17, 2010, 06:11:43 PM
Well, only portions of the country have the late game on CBS tonight.

http://the506.com/sports/?p=1003

Looks like Chicago, Detroit, New York, Philadelphia, Atlanta, and New Orleans and surrounding areas are going to be affected.
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: redskevin88 on October 17, 2010, 07:08:01 PM
It's started....

Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: kwando1313 on October 17, 2010, 07:11:35 PM
In Detroit too?
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: redskevin88 on October 17, 2010, 07:13:29 PM
In Detroit too?

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Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: freds on October 17, 2010, 07:14:09 PM
After the sun of Ghana, the snow of Sweden!
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on October 17, 2010, 07:15:21 PM
Please be careful...it is just getting ready to start for me, but the live link I posted is well underway...so please don't update with this!
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: TexasLady on October 17, 2010, 07:21:57 PM
It started here in Austin on time. All I'll say is now I knew the reason for the title.  "We Should Have Brought Gloves and Butt Pads."  :lol:
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: DrRox on October 17, 2010, 07:23:45 PM
Well the delay was 18 min....so just one comment from the beginning. As much as they keep showing that Thomas confessional about not using the express pass until he absolutely has too.....makes me think that he probably uses it pretty early in the race....maybe not this episode......but soon.
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Dånooky on October 17, 2010, 07:27:54 PM
Until what point are we allowed to talk right now?
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: redwings8831 on October 17, 2010, 07:31:42 PM
Until what point are we allowed to talk right now?

Kevin/Michael in the elevator at the airport in Frankfurt.
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Belle Book on October 17, 2010, 07:34:30 PM
We can talk now!

The teams are flying to Kiruna, Sweden!  They have pre-arranged seats on a flight plan.

Michael & Kevin found out on the way to the airport that there's an earlier flight once you get into Frankfurt, but you have only an hour to make it!  They tell Gary & Mallory this.  Nat & Kat also find this out (by going to an Internet cafe) and tell Brook & Claire.  Connor & Jonathan become suspicious that there's an earlier flight but are told that the seats are booked.

And those teams got on the earlier flight!

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Dånooky on October 17, 2010, 07:43:47 PM
OK, the feed is way ahead, so, I'll come back later
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Belle Book on October 17, 2010, 07:48:25 PM
The first four teams went to the storage area for the ice in the Icehotel.  Michael & Kevin did the Speedbump, but they still got to the Roadblock first -- I guess the teams in front got a little lost.

Michael, Claire, Kat and Mallory did the Roadblock but Kat didn't have a great huskie team.  Still, they're way ahead of the others, who just arrived.

So while the first four teams are on their way to a train station, the other five are either doing the Roadblock (Connor & Jonathan, Chad & Stephanie, Katie & Rachel and Nick & Vicki) or really lost (Jill & Thomas).  But now Jill & Thomas are heading back.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Belle Book on October 17, 2010, 07:57:30 PM
OMG!  Nat & Kat chose Sleds and just finished in first!

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: The Amazing Race on October 17, 2010, 08:01:38 PM
I have a question...I live in Virginia and it just finished here why you all have delays?
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: redwings8831 on October 17, 2010, 08:03:52 PM
I have a question...I live in Virginia and it just finished here why you all have delays?

Football. Some areas of the country got the late game which ran over, while others had the early game.
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Belle Book on October 17, 2010, 08:05:09 PM
It's football, The Amazing Race.  Anyway, here's what happened so far:

Brook & Claire and Gary & Mallory just finished Sleds and came in second and third (Gary & Mallory were second).  Michael & Kevin chose Beds and finished in fourth.

Connor & Jonathan are doing sleds but have to do it again.  Chad & Stephanie are also doing Sleds but Stephanie's scared.  She might switch tasks and do Beds.

Jill & Thomas chose Beds -- then chose to hand in their Express Pass!  They're now fifth.  I think Katie & Rachel and Nick & Vicky will choose Sleds but I'm not sure.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: DrRox on October 17, 2010, 08:10:11 PM
If Jill and Thomas had of done the Beds detour....they still would have come in 5th and still had the express pass.......
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Belle Book on October 17, 2010, 08:18:44 PM
If Jill and Thomas had of done the Beds detour....they still would have come in 5th and still had the express pass.......

Yeah, but Jill & Thomas couldn't have known that at the time.  Anyway, as we all know now Chad & Stephanie and Katie & Rachel decided to bail on Sleds pretty quickly.  Connor & Jonathan should've done so quickly as well.  Unfortunately, they didn't and were eliminated.  On the bright side, they went out with a laugh -- for me.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: redwings8831 on October 17, 2010, 08:19:42 PM
Next week:

Nat/Kat eating some Norwegian delicacy - FF?
Claire having trouble climbing up to something - RB?
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Kacper on October 17, 2010, 08:33:15 PM
Next week:

Nat/Kat eating some Norwegian delicacy - FF?
Claire having trouble climbing up to something - RB?

Hhhmm...It might be FF like in TAR 13 where they had to eat a cow or something...lol
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on October 17, 2010, 08:59:29 PM
Let's take discussion of the next episode to that thread please?
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Neobie on October 17, 2010, 11:13:24 PM
Not sure exactly why, but I'm enjoying this new season quite a bit! Perhaps because the racers are too?
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: theschnauzers on October 17, 2010, 11:18:23 PM
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Not sure exactly why, but I'm enjoying this new season quite a bit! Perhaps because the racers are too?

I was thinking during the episode that this season has had an early TAR feel to it we haven't seen in a long time.  The teams seem to have more of the comrade-in-arms of unknown adventure that permeated those early Races. And the tasks also seem to be more thought out and fit the places they're at.

It's definitely has a feel of TAR returning to its roots, something I can easily sign off on.
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Dånooky on October 18, 2010, 12:12:04 AM
Not sure exactly why, but I'm enjoying this new season quite a bit! Perhaps because the racers are too?
I think everybody enjoyed the Roadblock, and even Johnathan & Connor had fun throughout the episode, I think all teams ended the leg on a positive note.
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Ruth on October 18, 2010, 07:49:00 AM
I don't know if it's just me, but this season, I'm practically finding every moment of the race exciting. Right from the start when teams were getting tickets for the flights. We didn't know if any of the teams on the later flights would find out about the earlier one. We didn't know if Michael and Kevin were going to make the connection. And at the end, it was a three-way race to the finish when Jill and Thomas used their Express Pass. Man, I'm SO loving this season! It's just EXCITING! And I love it that they check the first few teams in barely through half of the episode. This way, we get to see more drama among the remaining teams. Awesome!

I believed that Nat and Kat would finally pick themselves up this leg, and they did! Second-last to first place! Yes, I'm really hoping they'll be the first all-female team to win the race. Please!!

I'm really impressed with Michael and Kevin's performance this leg. To an extent I thought that they would do a Jet and Cord and come in first despite a Speed Bump! But them finishing the Roadblock in first was already awesome. I'm loving this father-son team more and more, I love the support and respect they have for each other. Great finish this leg!

I wouldn't have expected Jill and Thomas to use their Express Pass this early. I thought that it'd only be towards the end of the race. But I guess they had to, they were in last place. And this makes things more exciting I guess. Now that the Express Pass is out of the picture, everyone's on equal ground again. And BTW, I actually thought that the scene where they were lost reminded me of the scene Tammy and Victor was lost in TAR14, in one of the earlier legs. De javu?

I didn't expect Connor and Jonathan to come in last. The Detour screwed them over! But I was touched by Connor's attitude when Jonathan struggled. He was really encouraging, in contrast to Chad's behaviour. Man, I'm really sad that they're gone. I cried at their departure, seriously! And I've never done that for an all-male team. They've been a relatively strong team on the race, and a bundle of positive energy. I'm sad they're gone, but I like it that they took it so well. That ending scene when they threw their caps, sang their "swan song" and departed with their joyful faces... Man it really made me cry! Awww. Well as they said... They not only graduated from Princeton, they graduated from the Amazing Race. With a song!
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: apskip on October 18, 2010, 11:01:16 AM
The first four teams went to the storage area for the ice in the Icehotel.  Michael & Kevin did the Speedbump, but they still got to the Roadblock first -- I guess the teams in front got a little lost.

Michael, Claire, Kat and Mallory did the Roadblock but Kat didn't have a great huskie team.  Still, they're way ahead of the others, who just arrived.

So while the first four teams are on their way to a train station, the other five are either doing the Roadblock (Connor & Jonathan, Chad & Stephanie, Katie & Rachel and Nick & Vicki) or really lost (Jill & Thomas).  But now Jill & Thomas are heading back.

Belle Book

Belle Book,

I think it is important to get the time sequences understood better. It is logical to assume that the last 5 teams took the same time to reach the get through the Ice Hotel get clue and dog sled camp ROADBLOCK and then drive to Vassijure station for the DETOURs. My airline arrival information (see AR17 flight Information thread) puts the first group either 2.15 or 2.75 hours ahead of the second. The time to do the DETOUR could have been as little as 30 minutes to go up the chairlift and ride the Techsleds down, but in any event would have been quite a bit faster than 2.15 to 2.75 hours. The only team from the first group who could possibly have seen any team from the second one (and even there I strongly doubt it) was Michael/Kevin if they took more than 2 hours to do Beds.
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Belle Book on October 18, 2010, 03:41:18 PM
The first four teams went to the storage area for the ice in the Icehotel.  Michael & Kevin did the Speedbump, but they still got to the Roadblock first -- I guess the teams in front got a little lost.

Michael, Claire, Kat and Mallory did the Roadblock but Kat didn't have a great huskie team.  Still, they're way ahead of the others, who just arrived.

So while the first four teams are on their way to a train station, the other five are either doing the Roadblock (Connor & Jonathan, Chad & Stephanie, Katie & Rachel and Nick & Vicki) or really lost (Jill & Thomas).  But now Jill & Thomas are heading back.

Belle Book

Belle Book,

I think it is important to get the time sequences understood better. It is logical to assume that the last 5 teams took the same time to reach the get through the Ice Hotel get clue and dog sled camp ROADBLOCK and then drive to Vassijure station for the DETOURs. My airline arrival information (see AR17 flight Information thread) puts the first group either 2.15 or 2.75 hours ahead of the second. The time to do the DETOUR could have been as little as 30 minutes to go up the chairlift and ride the Techsleds down, but in any event would have been quite a bit faster than 2.15 to 2.75 hours. The only team from the first group who could possibly have seen any team from the second one (and even there I strongly doubt it) was Michael/Kevin if they took more than 2 hours to do Beds.

Yeah, but the TV editing just makes it seem like the second group is closer to the first one than they really are.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: apskip on October 18, 2010, 04:00:52 PM
You're quite right, but editors are paid to fake us out. They want it to seem that parts of the race are much closer than they really are, particularly with respect to the time differential for the last place team versus the next-to-last. They never give you that, so you have to use reasonable assumptions to make educated guesses.