Chateau and I made a field trip yesterday to some of our projected Finale City locations. We pretty much hit all the sites at just about the same time teams would have been there as well. Some new info!!
Based on this tweet:QuoteStorm Troopers are escorting 'Amazing Race' contestants through the Letterman Digital Arts Center
10:25 AM Dec 20th from txt --dylbeck
Our first stop was right here:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%2012%20FINALE/Fieldtrip/TAR16Lettermancenter.jpg)
We managed to get DIRECT CONFIRMATION (two sources) that yes, TAR 16 was filming there on Sunday AM 12/20. Teams entered thru the main visitor parking lot, and apparently went directly to YODA. Storm Troopers were definitely involved as well. And best of all, GEORGE LUCAS and other key executives were there as well.[/size]
Sunday, May 9 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) THE AMAZING RACE 16 - The end city is in sight for the remaining teams as they make their way from Shanghai to San Francisco. The first team to cross the finish line wins the million dollar prize. Phil Keoghan hosts.
I think this is the 1st official word from CBS that the finale is in SF?
http://www.cbspressexpress.com/div.php/cbs_entertainment/release?id=24786 (http://www.cbspressexpress.com/div.php/cbs_entertainment/release?id=24786)QuoteSunday, May 9 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) THE AMAZING RACE 16 - The end city is in sight for the remaining teams as they make their way from Shanghai to San Francisco. The first team to cross the finish line wins the million dollar prize. Phil Keoghan hosts.
ROUTE INFO: Find and climb Coit Tower
EVIDENCE: Team spotted, confirmation of crew dismantling equipment
OTHER POSSIBLE TASKS:
ROUTE INFO: Carry large locked trunk to…?
EVIDENCE: Probable decoy team (Mike & Louis) spotted with large trunk at California and Larkin streets (around noon)
So, judging from the preview for the finale episode, can we assume that whatever 30 minute lead Dan/Jordan had on the other two teams is rendered irrelevant?? I only assume this because Cord and Jordan are shown performing (presumably) the Virtual Reality task simultaneously.
Oh my gravy!! Did teams CHECK their bags?? Is that an airline tag on the Cowboys bags??
That could kill a lead as weell...
Thanks puddin!! :hearts:
And Coit Tower was gold all along.... :yess:
And the tower must be the dreaded ascender RB!! We only see one team member doing it, right?
Wonder if the virtual reality task involves a memory task?? ??? Y'all know that was at Lucas Films right?? :vader:
Maybe the VR thing is the RB
Oh my gravy!! Did teams CHECK their bags?? Is that an airline tag on the Cowboys bags?? :vader:
Oh my gravy!! Did teams CHECK their bags?? Is that an airline tag on the Cowboys bags?? :vader:
Some airports make you get tags for your carryons...............
This could be it Cord. Jet and Cord won!
Ditto :lol: but so long as it's jet n cord ftw, I dun really care :pThis could be it Cord. Jet and Cord won!
Didn't you say Dan & Jordan won in an earlier thread and am I reading you correctly?
Maybe the trunk is a memory task - it kind of looks like an old fashioned travel trunk. It could be full of items representing various locales and tasks, and when they arrive at their destination the memory task begins?? :duno:I wonder if this task involves the pioneer trunk factory (also known as c.a. malm&co.) on folsam street?? It is a Heritage site.... Trying to set up a link but having computer troubles :(
That's not a label for a checked bag, looks more like an airline label used for carry-on bags which some airlines require you to put on your bag.,
That's not a label for a checked bag, looks more like an airline label used for carry-on bags which some airlines require you to put on your bag.,
Agree, the blue one on cowboys' bag is just a name tag, with words "Name Label" and Chinese 姓名牌 on it, probably just those you could get in airport check-in counter
Which team won the race?
Which team won the race?
Its Jet and Cord/Dan and Jordan/Brent and Caite (45/45/10)
No. Jet and Cord won.
Its a fact that Dan and Jordan won.
... most probably Dan and Jordan will win. Jet and Cord 1st runner up, Brent and Caite 2nd
... Brent and Caitlin is definitely 3rd.
Speculated Finale Placements
1st: Jet and Cord
2nd: Dan and Jordan
3rd: Brent and Caitie
The bottom line is that Jet and Cord won. END
Maybe the trunk is a memory task - it kind of looks like an old fashioned travel trunk. It could be full of items representing various locales and tasks, and when they arrive at their destination the memory task begins?? :duno:I wonder if this task involves the pioneer trunk factory (also known as c.a. malm&co.) on folsam street?? It is a Heritage site.... Trying to set up a link but having computer troubles :(
Oh my gravy!! Did teams CHECK their bags?? Is that an airline tag on the Cowboys bags??I noticed that the cowboys had tags on their bags during both Shanghai legs - maybe they were practicing to be decoys :lol:.
That could kill a lead as weell...
nvm
nvmWhat does nvm mean? :idgit
I think its safe to assume it comes down to Jet and Cord vs. Dan and Jordan. If the cowboys are at least 30 minutes ahead of Brent and Catie and the brothers are also ahead, that already puts them in last. We also don't see them with any other teams in the promos. I can also see the cowboys cutting in line and upseting Brent and Catie. I have yet to see the brothers loose it with another team outside of confessionals.
:lol: We already knew this, but The Boyz are at LucasFilms ILM "motion capture and creature integration" studio. (ping pong ball unitards).
Here's a BBC article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6571491.stm) (tour) of the Letterman facility at The Presidio. :snicker:
Hmmm...I still think the VR simulation is the Roadblock since both Cord and Caite are doing it...
Hmmm...I still think the VR simulation is the Roadblock since both Cord and Caite are doing it...
My take is that Jet and Cord won. Look at the 1 of the photos where they are smiling happily while running to the finish line. Its kinda obvious though.
Where they ever NOT smiling in (at least on tv) during the entire season? They've shown their positive attitudes the entire way! :lol3:My take is that Jet and Cord won. Look at the 1 of the photos where they are smiling happily while running to the finish line. Its kinda obvious though.
When are Jet and Cord not smiling though?
My take is that Jet and Cord won. Look at the 1 of the photos where they are smiling happily while running to the finish line. Its kinda obvious though.
My take is that Jet and Cord won. Look at the 1 of the photos where they are smiling happily while running to the finish line. Its kinda obvious though.
We never see them running to the finish line. The one of them running is at the Letterman Center, the first task.
I think Brent and Caite win.
Jet and Cord 2nd, Dan and Jordan 3rd.My take is that Jet and Cord won. Look at the 1 of the photos where they are smiling happily while running to the finish line. Its kinda obvious though.
We never see them running to the finish line. The one of them running is at the Letterman Center, the first task.
Peach/Puddin, can we get some more caps of the Star Wars parody words swirling behind the VR Jordan? Wondering if they have any significance?
I think Brent and Caite win.
Jet and Cord 2nd, Dan and Jordan 3rd.My take is that Jet and Cord won. Look at the 1 of the photos where they are smiling happily while running to the finish line. Its kinda obvious though.
We never see them running to the finish line. The one of them running is at the Letterman Center, the first task.
I have to agree with JGR (even though I don't want to). If you notice Carol and Brandy in the screencaps, they seem sort of unhappy, they're not clapping enthusiastically. My guess is that either A) they're still bitter about being eliminated or B) Brent and Catie get first.
Peach/Puddin, can we get some more caps of the Star Wars parody words swirling behind the VR Jordan? Wondering if they have any significance?
Could you upload the cbs promo video again such that everyone can watch it?
Could you upload the cbs promo video again such that everyone can watch it?
I found it on Sling, but I don't want to embed it from there. It's still the CBS version, but I don't know if it has the same viewing restrictions.
You can give it a try.
http://www.sling.com/video/show/316191/57/The-Amazing-Race---Huger-Than-Huge
PS - I'll let someone else decipher the whole thing, but the end of the text is "They built this Polynesian haven and they called it Tonga!"
I still cant watch it. Could anyone upload the new cbs finalew promo preview on youtube? thanks
I still cant watch it. Could anyone upload the new cbs finalew promo preview on youtube? thanks
Hmmm.... I have no idea about the order of the tasks, but at the top of the hill where they are carrying the trunks are several old historic hotels. One of them (the Fairmont?) has a famous bar/entertainment lounge called the Tonga Room. That could be where they are going with the trunks. Or I could be grasping at a coincidence.
I'm at work, so I can't look into this. I'll leave that as an exercise for the readers. :lol:
Plaidmoon
Hmmm.... I have no idea about the order of the tasks, but at the top of the hill where they are carrying the trunks are several old historic hotels. One of them (the Fairmont?) has a famous bar/entertainment lounge called the Tonga Room. That could be where they are going with the trunks. Or I could be grasping at a coincidence.
I'm at work, so I can't look into this. I'll leave that as an exercise for the readers. :lol:
Plaidmoon
Plaidmoon, I'm thinking the Tonga is maybe where they get the trunks? ??? Since we know they don't have them when they get to Lucas and they go to Tonga right after Lucas?
I'm thinking the Tonga is maybe where they get the trunks?Agreed. The Tonga faces California street (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=37.791905,-122.410258&spn=0,0.013937&z=17&layer=c&cbll=37.791923,-122.410119&panoid=78O6atU_0mfrsUrN3nCS2A&cbp=12,55.58,,0,5.76); one team heads west, the other south.
Thanks, Peach! :waves:
"A long time ago, on a hill far, far away, soldiers returning from the South Pacific demanded a place where they could relive perfumed nights spent beneath palm trees and cooled by the fierce ocean winds. They built this Polynesian haven and they called it Tonga!"
Thinking that the goal of the VR game could be to find and read this message to give them the location of their next clue?
The Tonga Room (http://www.tongaroom.com/) makes most sense to me -- it's a landmark and matches the description in the clue (it opened in 1945, just after WW2). :tup: to plaidmoon and jerseydude.
Just took another look...Tower done by 1110-1130.
Trunks after tower per Chateau.
Tweets:
Tower 1110 for Brent and Caite finish
Trunks around noon
Letterman tweet at 125!!!!!!!
:idgit
Storm Troopers are escorting 'Amazing Race' contestants through the Letterman Digital Arts Center
10:25 AM Dec 20th, 2009 via txt
Darn...WHere are they going then?? ???
I loved the idea they were full of stuff for a memory challenge, and The Tonga room seems like a nice private place for that. Darn....
So...we think they GET them at the Tonga Room...so we need to know where they are going with them....Where is the Great American Music Hall in relationship to all this?? They were seen near there...
Thanks slowhatch! :jumpy:
The plane landed at 845.....and it is a 30 minute drive to Letterman according to Google earth. About 915 is quickest they could get to Letterman, without taking into account Immigration and Customs at SFO.
I can't believe that a team that passes the U-Turn mark and opted not the anyone can still be U-turned how could that be?
Darn...WHere are they going then?? ???
I loved the idea they were full of stuff for a memory challenge, and The Tonga room seems like a nice private place for that. Darn....
So...we think they GET them at the Tonga Room...so we need to know where they are going with them....Where is the Great American Music Hall in relationship to all this?? They were seen near there...
Thanks slowhatch! :jumpy:
A hair over a mile away, Peach. It's possible they hoofed the trunks from Tonga to there.
ETA: And the teams we see (D/J, B/C) are taking different routes, but both are headed in the direction of the GAMH.
I can't believe that a team that passes the U-Turn mark and opted not the anyone can still be U-turned how could that be?
We do have a spoiler about Dan and Jordan being moved to business class just before deplaning which enabled them to exit the plane first (which I think shows excellent strategy and someone did some charming of a flight attendent! ). Now...would that be considered cutting in line?? Might more likely be something at Coit Tower.
No, that couldn't happen. Buying Business class tickets gives you a 24 hour penalty. You wouldn't do that in the final leg.
No, that couldn't happen. Buying Business class tickets gives you a 24 hour penalty. You wouldn't do that in the final leg.
No, that couldn't happen. Buying Business class tickets gives you a 24 hour penalty. You wouldn't do that in the final leg.
So Dan and Jordan is in the lead?At least they were after e flight to san fran. But e cowbros caught up at e star wars vr task. (Cord pops his head over to dan's controller booth)
Not sure if we have this ... from ET
I just have a feeling that the final tasks are going to end up favoring Jet-Cord for the win. The more information that comes out from the promos and tweets, and the excellent analysis work by the TAR Detectives Team reinforces in my mind that even if they're the last out of the airport, they still will pull out a win in the final leg. And I doubt they'll have any trouble with cabdrivers getting to Candlestick Park, one of the iconic locations in American sports history. (And if there is a memory task of some sort at the finish, I think that will favor Jet-Cord as well.
(For the record my guts says Jordan and Dan for second, Brent and Caite for third.)
Just a small sidebar to help you young ones with ancient history. Looking closely again at the picture published earlier in this thread and some of the buildings now making up the Star Wars complex look like the old barracks I lived in while I was stationed at the Persidio in 1946. I was a cinematographer assigned to the Sixth Army headquarters and waiting orders to embark with Admiral Byrd to film his trip to Antarctica and the South Pole. Some of the film I shot on Operation Highjump was used by MGM in their Academy-award winning documentary "The Secret Land."
So Dan and Jordan is in the lead?At least they were after e flight to san fran. But e cowbros caught up at e star wars vr task. (Cord pops his head over to dan's controller booth)
2. It was also the site of the 10/17/1989 Loma Prieta Earthquake at 504pm PDT interrupting pre-game ceremonies and postponing the start of the third game1989 Bay Area World Series between the Giants and the Oakland Athletics for 10 days.
I managed to watch the videos with proxies....
The 2nd preview of the finale shows the cowboys really close to finishing the VR task (Jordan is in the way between Jet and the task goal). Dan shouts at Cord when he asks Dan to move Jordan out of Jet's way lol
I'm guessing the cowboys left the VR first (tied in the worst scenario: Jordan could be done and trying to read the Tonga message as he is spinning...)
If the final task really does involve music, that will be a challenge for the cowboys :D
Nope. You can't do that. If you do, it fails.
Nope. You can't do that. If you do, it fails.
I've read on WIKIPEDIA that you can do that.....
This shot was taken here
It was taken between 10:37 and 10:46 am (assumes December 20th).
I think I just spotted the winners of this season of Amazing Race!! :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
(http://img.skitch.com/20100507-bxr9t3xqbrn26u7y6exw6x1ruk.jpg)
I think they're leaving - since they don't seem to be escorted by Stormtroopers anymore.This shot was taken here
It was taken between 10:37 and 10:46 am (assumes December 20th).
:hearts: :<3
So that would be them running in towards Yoda from where we parked?? ??? So the start of this task??
or not..... :lol:
I was thinking that the VR task might just be the "cut in line" deal. If the Cowboys get frustrated waiting on Jordan.......they might see a gap and sneak throught and get ahead there. Jet seems to be just waiting for Jordan to move and Jordan doesnt have a clue with way to go. He seems to be just blocking Jet to me.
Phil was on Bonnie Hunt today and showed a clip of the Coit Tower ascender task. He did mention it was the final task.
--They'll also continue "The Amazing Race" finale tradition of having their memories of the race tested.
--Keoghan foreshadowed that Upton and Horne are confronted by another team at the mat.
"This season," he teased, "we have a very tense finish."
The McCoys, who came in first place during the last episode,
Is there any evidence on the time when teams were spotted at Coit Tower?
Personally I think this looks like the first task since the producers usually don't want many people to see teams in a public place, so put this as first task can avoid most people seeing them, especially when there will be more tourists later.
Amazing Race contestants just completed near-final stage by rappelling up San Francisco's Coit Tower! http://twitpic.com/udts2 11:14 AM Dec 20th, 2009 via Echofonhttp://twitter.com/joelwhitaker
Notable info from 'Amazing Race' host promises 'tense' finish (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100507/ap_en_tv/us_tv_amazing_race16)Quote--They'll also continue "The Amazing Race" finale tradition of having their memories of the race tested.
--Keoghan foreshadowed that Upton and Horne are confronted by another team at the mat.
"This season," he teased, "we have a very tense finish."
After reading the article, and the fact that the ascender and trunk tasks require strength, I'm feeling better about Jet & Cord's chances of winning.
Phil was on Bonnie Hunt today and showed a clip of the Coit Tower ascender task. He did mention it was the final task.
Interesting. Where does the trunk stuff fit in then? Chateau's shadow magic says that the trunks come after Coit.
Not sure if these particular photos have been shared.....
CBS posted them on TwitPic (http://twitpic.com/1lw7hb)
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk59/suzukensg/97240799.jpg)
Did anybody see Phil on the Bonnie Hunt show? They showed a clip of this episode---it showed Dan pulling himself up the tower, he is almost at the top when it shows the cowboys showing up on the scene and when the cowboys show up it says they are in second place. Hope this is the correct place to post this, have been reading the forums when I got obsessed with this show a couple of weeks ago and decided to register now to post this.
oh! so that photo of the brothers is taken at Coit Tower?
confirmation of that being a roadblock would explain how brent and caite would have fallen behind. since we have eye witness reports that BOTH brent and caite were seen doing this RB, let me guess that B/C DIDN'T keep count of how many RBs each of them has done so far, and Brent gets volunteered to do the climb up (him being tall and lanky would have some advantage in doing it quickly). HOWEVER, since he has already completed 6 RBs, they are not allowed to open/retrieve the clue after his climb up and Caite has to do the RB instead..... :lol3:
though I thought that if this were to happen, aren't they supposed to be issued at penalty at the pitstop?
could be, we've had a lot of race's "firsts", so why not add, "oops, we accidentally went over the RB limit"?oh! so that photo of the brothers is taken at Coit Tower?
confirmation of that being a roadblock would explain how brent and caite would have fallen behind. since we have eye witness reports that BOTH brent and caite were seen doing this RB, let me guess that B/C DIDN'T keep count of how many RBs each of them has done so far, and Brent gets volunteered to do the climb up (him being tall and lanky would have some advantage in doing it quickly). HOWEVER, since he has already completed 6 RBs, they are not allowed to open/retrieve the clue after his climb up and Caite has to do the RB instead..... :lol3:
though I thought that if this were to happen, aren't they supposed to be issued at penalty at the pitstop?
anybody else have any thoughts on this?
Not sure if these particular photos have been shared.....
CBS posted them on TwitPic (http://twitpic.com/1lw7hb)
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk59/suzukensg/RealityFanForum%20-%20TAR/97240799.jpg)
Not sure if these particular photos have been shared.....
CBS posted them on TwitPic (http://twitpic.com/1lw7hb)
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk59/suzukensg/RealityFanForum%20-%20TAR/97240799.jpg)
First post here so hopefully I'm doing this correctly. I found this forum around episode 9 and its made the show more interesting. Figured I should give back...
If the first picture is from here, then it is around 10:50ish
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zPt8lRgi4dg/S-UET1TyG-I/AAAAAAAAABY/aBdTpHQlLnM/s640/Letterman%20Art%20Studio.jpg)
The other times I figured based on the shadows....
Brent on tower is ~11:10
Dan and Jordan carrying trunk ~11:33
Brent and Caite carrying trunk ~12:08
Now that would really suck to climb that tower then be told it didnt count.
oh! so that photo of the brothers is taken at Coit Tower?
confirmation of that being a roadblock would explain how brent and caite would have fallen behind. since we have eye witness reports that BOTH brent and caite were seen doing this RB, let me guess that B/C DIDN'T keep count of how many RBs each of them has done so far, and Brent gets volunteered to do the climb up (him being tall and lanky would have some advantage in doing it quickly). HOWEVER, since he has already completed 6 RBs, they are not allowed to open/retrieve the clue after his climb up and Caite has to do the RB instead..... :lol3:
though I thought that if this were to happen, aren't they supposed to be issued at penalty at the pitstop?
anybody else have any thoughts on this?
Keoghan, who was at the finish line when the show was filmed late last year, would not reveal the winner, of course, but he does believe that the show’s fans are rooting for the beloved professional bull riders to win and that the ending isn’t necessarily happy for everyone. Keoghan foreshadowed that Upton and Horne are confronted by another team at the mat.
“This season,” he teased, “we have a very tense finish.”
I could be way off, but this could possibly explain why Brent is doing the Road Block:
In Shanghai, when we had two Road Blocks, maybe they didn't count the second one int o the overall tally, because the person was forced to do it.
Is that possible, or do we know that the two Shanghai Leg #1 Road Blocks both count. :duno:
This is an untrue statement. The epicenter of the Loma Prieta earthquake is at ......Loma Prieta Peak, California, about 70 miles south as the crow flies from Candlestick Park. Candlestick Park is famous that day because Al Michaels was on an open mike talking about the upcoming World Series game when the earthquake occured.
2. It was also the site of the 10/17/1989 Loma Prieta Earthquake at 504pm PDT interrupting pre-game ceremonies and postponing the start of the third game1989 Bay Area World Series between the Giants and the Oakland Athletics for 10 days.
I kept looking at Candlestick to try to figure out how those guys, Bonds, etc are able to hit the baseball into the ocean. Then it dawned on me that ATT Park was built.........lol.......oh well, senility is fun.
Now that would really suck to climb that tower then be told it didnt count.
QuoteKeoghan, who was at the finish line when the show was filmed late last year, would not reveal the winner, of course, but he does believe that the show’s fans are rooting for the beloved professional bull riders to win and that the ending isn’t necessarily happy for everyone. Keoghan foreshadowed that Upton and Horne are confronted by another team at the mat.
“This season,” he teased, “we have a very tense finish.”
Boy what a misleading quote by the writer. I finally figured out that the "not happy for everyone" reference isn't about the Cowboys, but the confrontation Brent-Caite have with both Joe-Heidi and Carol-Brandy; and the possibility that Brent might have violated the six roadblock rule. The fact that Caite is presumably obligated to do the roadblock has been a factor in my mind that they wouldn't win the final leg.
There's always been a question about how Phil would handle a penalty on the final leg, and the way this season has gone, that possibility playing out would fit right in.
im probably wrong on this, but these are the best guesses i have as to what the tasks are:
Letterman Digital Arts Center: Detour- both Dan and Jordan and Jet and Cord are seen doing it. We know it can't be a roadblock because Jet(walker) and Brent(commander) both already have done six roadblocks so if only one position counted as a roadblock at least one team would be over the limit.
Coit Tower: Route Info- brent is doing this and he already did 6 roadblocks. if this is a roadblock then catie definitely failed in her mission. :lol:
Tonga Room: Roadblock- it's the task we know least about and pretty much the only one that fits.
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CBS posted a twitvid of TAR. Don't know if anything new is shown as I can't play vids on my stupid computer.
After seeing this, the highlight of Brent/Caite keep making mistakes may suggest that they will make mistakes again in the final leg.
But if the hit the 6-roadblock rule is broken, I guess there should be some sort of penalty instead of just let another teammate to finish it? Anyway, they may let them continue the race first and give the penalty in the end.
After seeing this, the highlight of Brent/Caite keep making mistakes may suggest that they will make mistakes again in the final leg.
But if the hit the 6-roadblock rule is broken, I guess there should be some sort of penalty instead of just let another teammate to finish it? Anyway, they may let them continue the race first and give the penalty in the end.
I guess in this case forcing Caite to do the roadblock would be a more severe penalty than a standard time-based one. I'm sure it would take her more than 30 mins to do it. And a huge time penalty would just spoil all their presence in the finale...
One thing I'm wondering is: Do we know (or is it possible to know) the time when the cowboys were seen near GAMH?
I never seen such thing before nor read it anywhere, so I don't know what is the exact penalty. But 30mins would be a 'help' for B/C, and 4 hours would be too much and it would surely ruin the finale for B/C. Forcing Caite to do it just seem to be the best option here. To be sure: Isn't the 4 hours penalty for skipped/forfeited tasks?
The crew could have changed the clue envelope after finding out that Brent was doing it....they should be prepared to everything, specially in the last leg :P
Going way back to TAR 1 in the first Paris Leg. Dave & Margaretta incurred a penalty because they both performed the roadblock together. Phil told them they could have avoided the penalty if only one of them re-did the task. So it's probable that Caite had to re-do the Roadblock to avoid incurring a penalty. Though we haven't heard the Roadblock limit rule for a while, haven't we? ???CBS posted a twitvid of TAR. Don't know if anything new is shown as I can't play vids on my stupid computer.
After seeing this, the highlight of Brent/Caite keep making mistakes may suggest that they will make mistakes again in the final leg.
But if the hit the 6-roadblock rule is broken, I guess there should be some sort of penalty instead of just let another teammate to finish it? Anyway, they may let them continue the race first and give the penalty in the end.
I've just watched Phil on Bonnie Hunt show and the clip confirms Coit Tower as Roadblock and Cowboys behind Brothers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNhBPi4ii4o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNhBPi4ii4o)
I still think Coit Tower is the first task, not the last, unless all the other tasks took less than 2 hours to complete (memory task included)
I've just watched Phil on Bonnie Hunt show and the clip confirms Coit Tower as Roadblock and Cowboys behind Brothers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNhBPi4ii4o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNhBPi4ii4o)
I still think Coit Tower is the first task, not the last, unless all the other tasks took less than 2 hours to complete (memory task included)
Hmm..... but didn't Phil say that the clip they showed of the 2 set of brothers climbing Coit tower was their last task? This also implies that D/J and J/C are basically neck & neck toward the pitstop!
Not sure if these particular photos have been shared.....
CBS posted them on TwitPic (http://twitpic.com/1lw7hb)
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk59/suzukensg/RealityFanForum%20-%20TAR/97240799.jpg)
This shot was taken here
It was taken between 10:37 and 10:46 am (assumes December 20th).
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%2012%20FINALE/PROMO/TAR16FinalePromo0645.jpg)
Could Catie and Brent be so far behind that when they arrived at Coit Tower the Cowboys and Dan/Jordan had crossed the finish line aldreay.
So TPTB asked Catie to repeal after Brent to act as decoys?
That would go along with the tweet about both Catie and Brent doing that task.
I think the rule about each team member having to complete 6 RB's went out the window several seasons ago.
Based on the posts, tweet times, sunlight estimations and google earth travel times:
- 08:45 AM Plane Landed.
- 09:00 AM Frantic couples with backbacks running thru SFO followed by film crew. Great Race contestants? (Brothers?)
- 09:15 AM Just went through customs on San Francisco, standing in line with two guys from Amazing Race and their camera crew. (Cowboys?)
- 09:22 AM Cowboys(?) leave SFO.
- 09:30 AM Brothers(?) arrive at Coit Tower.
- 09:50 AM Cowboys(?) arrive at Coit Tower.
- 10:15 AM Brothers(?) leave Coit Tower.
- 10:25 AM Storm Troopers are escorting 'Amazing Race' contestants through the Letterman Digital Arts Center. (Brothers?)
- 10:27-46 AM Cowboys(?) leave Coit Tower.
- 10:37-46 AM Cowboys arrive at LDAC.
- 11:14 AM Amazing Race contestants just completed near-final stage by rappelling up San Francisco's Coit Tower! (Models)
- 11:58 AM The Amazing Race contestants scaled the tower then hopped in a SF cab, but I didn't see which team it was. (Models)
According to Google Earth:
- 27 Mins from SFO to Coit Tower.
- 10 Mins from Coit Tower to LDAC.
Any thoughts?
Yes, the Globetrotters mentioned this at the dreaded Kafka Road Block. They chose Big Easy to do it, becuase they wanted Flight Time to do the last one. Shame they didn't know the last one was rappelling... :umn:Could Catie and Brent be so far behind that when they arrived at Coit Tower the Cowboys and Dan/Jordan had crossed the finish line aldreay.
So TPTB asked Catie to repeal after Brent to act as decoys?
That would go along with the tweet about both Catie and Brent doing that task.
I think the rule about each team member having to complete 6 RB's went out the window several seasons ago.
It was only explicitly mentioned in TAR 6, but I believe it's still retained. Otherwise, why has not one team broken down the rule.
I also believe the Globetrotters mentioned it sometime last season.
Looks like Coit Tower -> LDAC -> Tonga -> Music Hall -> Candlestick Park, with a memory task sometime during or after music hall.
Yes, the Globetrotters mentioned this at the dreaded Kafka Road Block. They chose Big Easy to do it, becuase they wanted Flight Time to do the last one. Shame they didn't know the last one was rappelling... :umn:Could Catie and Brent be so far behind that when they arrived at Coit Tower the Cowboys and Dan/Jordan had crossed the finish line aldreay.
So TPTB asked Catie to repeal after Brent to act as decoys?
That would go along with the tweet about both Catie and Brent doing that task.
I think the rule about each team member having to complete 6 RB's went out the window several seasons ago.
It was only explicitly mentioned in TAR 6, but I believe it's still retained. Otherwise, why has not one team broken down the rule.
I also believe the Globetrotters mentioned it sometime last season.
Looks like Coit Tower -> LDAC -> Tonga -> Music Hall -> Candlestick Park, with a memory task sometime during or after music hall.
Teams have still referenced it between the show, clips and interviews after the fact. For example in All Stars Eric brought it up a couple times in trying to get Danielle to agree to do RB's (she didn't) thus putting that team in a position were Danielle was forced to do the last two. Eric was upset because one that he tried to get her to do was passive (just sump), and the next leg was a compass task that he knew how to use and Danielle never learned. This was either in clips or the episodes.Could Catie and Brent be so far behind that when they arrived at Coit Tower the Cowboys and Dan/Jordan had crossed the finish line aldreay.
So TPTB asked Catie to repeal after Brent to act as decoys?
That would go along with the tweet about both Catie and Brent doing that task.
I think the rule about each team member having to complete 6 RB's went out the window several seasons ago.
It was only explicitly mentioned in TAR 6, but I believe it's still retained. Otherwise, why has not one team broken down the rule.
I also believe the Globetrotters mentioned it sometime last season.
Looks like Coit Tower -> LDAC -> Tonga -> Music Hall -> Candlestick Park, with a memory task sometime during or after music hall.
well well well....after weeks of silence..it is confirmed that the winner team is: JET AND CORD..!!
(highlight to see it)
sucks right??
thanks to spiderracer(from buddy tv)
How do we know if that person is reliable? Did he back it up with evidence or an explanation of this result? To me that's still speculation unless it's proven otherwise.well, there's a 60% possibility of this is right...otherwise the winning team is dan/jordan...(but i don't think so)
That spoiler from Buddy TV is wrong because he first wrote Catie and Brent's name as the team that wins. We know it is between the cowboys and the other brothers so I say he doesn't know who wins and is just guessing like we all seem to be doing.well, spiderracer never said miss dumbie and his bf will win, and he also predicted that mario and luigi (from mario bros, LOL) would be the team who's out from the final three, so......
well well well....after weeks of silence..it is confirmed that the winner team is: JET AND CORD..!!
(highlight to see it)
sucks right??
thanks to spiderracer(from buddy tv)
Second place used to be $100,000, but I don't know if that's still true.
Second place used to be $100,000, but I don't know if that's still true.
Really? I thought it was 25k.
But 100 grand...dang!
Thank you SO much mswood!!
I think our whole team was awesome this season!! Everyone did a fabulous job and it was that teamwork that made this so special!!
I could never thank each of you, I would be bound to forget someone...but from the first sighting onwards y'all have been a joy to work with and one heck of a Spoiler Team!!
Thanks everyone for a great season!! Now....on to TAR 17!! :yess:
For those that are interested - here is a collage of files provided by CBS with the exif date to put them in order.
Looks like Jet and Cord weren't that far ahead of Brent and Caite...
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_oPVvcstV3B0/S-nSupR7KqI/AAAAAAAAA7A/Fn79Dv0H3wA/s800/timelineEXIF.jpg)
Hope this link works - its a large file...
They came from CBS "indirectly" :-XFor those that are interested - here is a collage of files provided by CBS with the exif date to put them in order.
Looks like Jet and Cord weren't that far ahead of Brent and Caite...
Hope this link works - its a large file...
Anyway to make this readable?? When I enlarge it, it blurs out... And did CBS provide the exif data? ??? Way cool!
Thanks WalkingPneumonia!I was wondering that myself - I think CBS messed with the EXIF data to throw us off - the first batch shows stuff out of order as well.
Question: Why are Jet/Cord running to the finish line at 1.08pm and Daniel/Jordan at the club at 1.11pm?
I have surmised that most of those times are one hour off. If you subtract an hour, leaving the few that don't seem to fit, they will all fit together.I like my theory that CBS is conspiring against me better :browsie:, but you're probably right. Maybe there were 2 cameras - one that was off by an hour.
For example, Dan & Jordan doing the memory challenge should be 12:11 not 13:11.
Hmm, so Jet and Cord really won but they edited it to show otherwise? :snicker:
So much for that. Who said Brent could not do the Roadblock? Or that after he did it Caite would also have to climb the tower. And we had a spoiler who claimed that both Caite and Brent climbed Coit Tower. False. If there is a rule that says that Roadblocks have to be done equally by the team members, I would like some one to quote chapter and verse (not on spec.) And if there is a fast and true rule that RBs have to be done equally, then rules can be broken just as the rule about you must be 21 to compete was waived so that Caite could participate. Special rules for this team? Dam. cost me points!The finale didn't show Brent and Catie completing every task, maybe they had to go back and do it but the producers knew everyone had would have already counted them out by then, so they didn't show it.
Caite has said in an interview that they could do 6-6 or 7-5. ???
Caite has said in an interview that they could do 6-6 or 7-5. ???I'm starting to think the puzzle Roadblock didn't count for the limit because they didn't have a choice of which racer would perform it
Caite has said in an interview that they could do 6-6 or 7-5. ???I'm starting to think the puzzle Roadblock didn't count for the limit because they didn't have a choice of which racer would perform it
I haven't been on this thread for over a week, so I have no idea of whether someone has already posted this. If so, forgive me in advance. I want all those who say that the ROADBLOCKs have to be evenly split or the ROADBLOCK count cannot go above 6 in a 12 leg season to note that Brent performed 7 ROADBLOCKS in AR!6.Caite stated in an interview that they were allowed to either split the RB's 6-6 or 7-5. Some probable explanations, IMO, are:
I don’t want to start rumor or conspiracy but something doesn’t look right in the last leg of the Amazing Race 16. The problem is in the United flight from Shanghai to San Francisco. There is no way, the brothers can talked a flight attendants to allow them to be in business class (not first class as commented by the winners). I fly United all the time between San Francisco and Shanghai – the plane is the Boeing 777. The first class seats are lay flat 180 degrees version and they were not those in the show. They were clearly in the business class section. I was on the same flight they were on. I am a high level United mileage member and I was on standby for an upgrade from economy to business (which I did not get). The only way United would hold 3 business class seats without putting revenue customers in them is someone buying the business class tickets (3 of them since the camera man also went up to business class section). United never leave the business seats empty when there are revenue customers and upgrade standby customers. The brothers were not an upgrade since the they moved from economy to business right before the landing during final approach into San Francisco. All of the other team members are up when they moved so they did not sneak into business class while they were asleep. The ability to exit the plane first is what gave them the lead and ultimately won the race. So did CBS purchased the business class tickets?Wow.
Airport -> Coit Tower -> Letterman -> Tonga -> Trunk Place -> Candlestick Park seems to be the likely order. If they throw in a memory task, it should be at Hunter's Point (which is adjacent to Candlestick Park).
Do we know when the flight from Shanghai landed? We could then trace the teams' movement from there.
EDIT: Airport -> Letterman -> Tonga -> Coit Tower -> Trunk Place -> Candlestick Park now seems more likely.
In season 7 Deana and I worked on a flight attendant for much of the early part of a flight, complimenting her and flirting as well. We then made up a bogus issue about our tv not working properly and used that in our argument to get moved up to first class. This was a long transcontinental flight from South America to South Africa. Although we did not mention the Race or a million dollars, they had to take note when we told them our camera and sound man had to be provided seats as well or we couldnt make that move. Once the camera crew started filming us enjoying the benefits of traveling in first class, the flight crew realized something of significance was happening. The co-pilot came out and we struck up a conversation with him - still not telling him why we were traveling with a camera crew. He agreed to lead us out of the plane first, before ANY passengers, and he walked us down as we opened and read our next clue. It involved a Fast Forward and he was able to give us directions to get there first. We won two vehicles on that leg by accomplishing the fast forward (crossing cooling towers) first. Our negotiations got us great food and comfort on that flight, and an invaluable contact that gave us his cell phone number, and even agreed to meet us in the middle of the next night so we could follow him to our next roadblock. Finally I called him on the way to the airport from that roadblock, and even had him book our next tickets for us while we were on the road. I am still in touch with this co-pilot today! This was an agressive but effective move that paid off hugely for us. We did it all within the restrictions of our race.
Airport -> Coit Tower -> Letterman -> Tonga -> Trunk Place -> Candlestick Park seems to be the likely order. If they throw in a memory task, it should be at Hunter's Point (which is adjacent to Candlestick Park).
Do we know when the flight from Shanghai landed? We could then trace the teams' movement from there.
EDIT: Airport -> Letterman -> Tonga -> Coit Tower -> Trunk Place -> Candlestick Park now seems more likely.
Caelestor, UA858 from Shanghai to SFO landed 20 minutes behind schedule on 12/20/09 at 845am. I realize that 2 weeks later this information may not be significant to most and that someone may have already posted it.