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Title: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 05, 2010, 11:59:12 AM
The teams continue to race in France.  Thanks to Evan for the head's up!


CHAMPAGNE ON THE BRAIN LEADS RACERS TO THE WRONG CITY, AND ONE TEAM'S POSITION IN THE RACE IS SECURED  BY A ROLL OF DUCT TAPE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, MARCH 21
ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK

"Cathy Drone?" (France) – Racers are less than bubbly after sprinting to the wrong Detour location, and one Racer tests the power of duct tape after their car becomes a casualty of the Race, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 21 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.

ROUTE SUMMARY: Upcoming Episodes From woden's TIMELINE Thread:
EP06: Verdun/Wargemoulin, France to Rheims, France
EVIDENCE: Press releases

Route:
ROUTE INFO: Find Rheims Cathedral (Notre Dame)/Joan of Arc statue at Place du Parvis (near cathedral)
EVIDENCE: CBS commercial

DETOUR?: Make/fill pyramid of champagne glasses OR search vineyard for marked bunch of grapes?
EVIDENCE: CBS promo

ROADBLOCK?: Rappel into Tattinger chalk caves, find correct champagne bottle and open it using a sword
EVIDENCE: CBS commercial

Air Date: MAR 21

Film Dates: DEC 9-10








Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "title to be determined (France)
Post by: pdson2 on March 05, 2010, 02:52:23 PM
The teams continue to race in France.  Thanks to Evan for the head's up!

Is this correct EP6.  What happened to EP5?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "title to be determined (France)
Post by: Sailing on March 05, 2010, 02:56:20 PM
The teams continue to race in France.  Thanks to Evan for the head's up!

Is this correct EP6.  What happened to EP5?


http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21726.0.html

Click on the link and it will take you to the thread for episode 5

 :bigwelcome
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "title to be determined (France)
Post by: pdson2 on March 05, 2010, 03:12:43 PM
The teams continue to race in France.  Thanks to Evan for the head's up!

Is this correct EP6.  What happened to EP5?


http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21726.0.html

Click on the link and it will take you to the thread for episode 5

 :bigwelcome

Thanks. Sorry just didn't look down far enough
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "title to be determined (France)
Post by: Zack. on March 05, 2010, 05:16:19 PM
Given that leg 5 has our WWII re-enactment, would it be safe to speculate that we're finally getting another Paris leg, making it easier to fly to the Seychelles?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "title to be determined (France)
Post by: Hooky on March 12, 2010, 02:15:44 AM
What's taking the title so long?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "title to be determined (France)
Post by: Cocoa on March 12, 2010, 02:17:51 AM
What's taking the title so long?

fishy?  :umn:  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "title to be determined (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 12, 2010, 06:47:21 AM
It should be out soon, I looked yesterday and didn't see it, sometimes they only come out near the airing of the preceding ep...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "title to be determined (France)
Post by: DianeC on March 12, 2010, 03:45:43 PM
03/21  Amazing Race 16 - Cathy Drone? (France)

Found this...CBS Press Bundle
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "title to be determined (France)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 12, 2010, 04:25:20 PM
03/21  Amazing Race 16 - Cathy Drone? (France)

Found this...CBS Press Bundle
Yeah, I saw that just now. Preetty random title, if you ask me! :res:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "title to be determined (France)
Post by: Neobie on March 12, 2010, 04:33:56 PM
Sean Penn, Cambodia? Look for a mispronounced place name! Cathedral? Castillon? Challes-les-Eaux? Chateauroux?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "title to be determined (France)
Post by: chill_sd on March 12, 2010, 04:36:35 PM
I had the same thought, a malapropism.

Perhaps something to do with a cathedral or the Rhône?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "title to be determined (France)
Post by: DianeC on March 12, 2010, 04:45:31 PM
I had the same thought, a malapropism.Perhaps something to do with a cathedral or the Rhône?

A what? God Bless You!LOL
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "title to be determined (France)
Post by: Sailing on March 12, 2010, 04:45:57 PM
What about Chartres Cathedral?

http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/Chartres_Cathedral.html

or

NOTRE-DAME CATHEDRAL, PARIS

http://www.discoverfrance.net/France/Cathedrals/Paris/Notre-Dame.shtml
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "title to be determined (France)
Post by: b4us on March 12, 2010, 04:47:53 PM
"Cotes du Rhone" wine region and Paris neighborhood near Eiffel Tower
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "title to be determined (France)
Post by: topaz on March 13, 2010, 06:49:22 AM
"Cotes du Rhone" wine region and Paris neighborhood near Eiffel Tower
and here's the info from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%B4tes_du_Rh%C3%B4ne_AOC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%B4tes_du_Rh%C3%B4ne_AOC)

btw, who do you think gonna say this episode?  Is it Jordan of Big Brother or Ms. Teen USA who doesn't know about geography?  Hmmm...  :flirt:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 13, 2010, 06:52:03 AM
"Cotes du Rhone" wine region and Paris neighborhood near Eiffel Tower
and here's the info from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%B4tes_du_Rh%C3%B4ne_AOC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%B4tes_du_Rh%C3%B4ne_AOC)

btw, who do you think gonna say this episode?  Is it Jordan of Big Brother or Ms. Teen USA who doesn't know about geography?  Hmmm...  :flirt:

Linking to wiki here is unneccessary, they get their info from us. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: puddin on March 14, 2010, 08:12:45 PM
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Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: ZBC Company on March 14, 2010, 08:14:28 PM
i think it winner late me see the close winner in france form
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 14, 2010, 08:18:02 PM
Proper technique here (http://www.champagnesabering.com/index.php?id=59), parody video here (http://vimeo.com/9217570).  :jam:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2010, 08:18:38 PM
Taittinger's!! Champagne!!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Neobie on March 14, 2010, 08:19:03 PM
Their vineyard's in Rheims, I believe!

Just one set-up. Fast Forward?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Dånooky on March 14, 2010, 08:20:16 PM
Quote
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep6/rff-0012.jpg)

<3!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: ZBC Company on March 14, 2010, 08:22:14 PM
Guys think find lead on the E
Taittinger family
he Taittinger family are a French wine family who are famous producers of champagne. Headed by Claude Taittinger (born 1927), a member of the consultative committee of the Banque de France, the Taittinger Group is ranked in the top 250 businesses in France.[citation needed] Its diversified holdings included Champagne Taittinger, Societe du Louvre and Concorde Hotels, whose flagship is the famed Hotel de Crillon on the Place de la Concorde in Paris, France as well as the Loire Valley wine producing firm of Bouvet-Ladubay, and a partnership in Domaine Carneros in California, until it was sold to Starwood Capital in 2005.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Taittinger1.JPG
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: ZBC Company on March 14, 2010, 08:24:33 PM
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/2624042.jpg
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Dånooky on March 14, 2010, 08:24:54 PM
Their vineyard's in Rheims, I believe!

Just one set-up. Fast Forward?
There's a table with glasses behind, maybe the have to set up the pyramid as part of their task?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2010, 08:25:08 PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%206%20Cotes%20du%20Rhone/TAR16ep6lady.jpg)

Don't know who she is, but think she is the same as in puddin's cap.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: ZBC Company on March 14, 2010, 08:26:45 PM
Guys think find lead on the E
Taittinger family
he Taittinger family are a French wine family who are famous producers of champagne. Headed by Claude Taittinger (born 1927), a member of the consultative committee of the Banque de France, the Taittinger Group is ranked in the top 250 businesses in France.[citation needed] Its diversified holdings included Champagne Taittinger, Societe du Louvre and Concorde Hotels, whose flagship is the famed Hotel de Crillon on the Place de la Concorde in Paris, France as well as the Loire Valley wine producing firm of Bouvet-Ladubay, and a partnership in Domaine Carneros in California, until it was sold to Starwood Capital in 2005.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Taittinger1.JPG

Peach  this  something look for
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: b4us on March 14, 2010, 08:30:32 PM
some info:
Champagne. The Champagne region, centered on the towns of Reims (Rheims) and Epernay, is the most northern of France's major vineyards. Unlike most of the best French wines, champagnes are blended in order to produce either non vintage champagnes (blended from different years) or vintage champagne, blended from wines of the same harvest. Consequently, since the quality of the champagne ultimately depends on a balance between the quality of the grapes and the skill of the blenders, Champagnes are also ranked and promoted by producer, not by any more finely delimited appellation . Possibly the most highly rated of blends is Krug; other well appreciated brands include Mumm, Bollinger and Heidsieck, not to mention the very well known brands of Moët & Chandon and Taittinger.The distinct taste and purity of real champagne is certainly due to the chalky soil and the continental growing conditions that abound in the Champagne region. Several of the main French Champagne producers have set up branches and vineyards in California, but in spite of bringing over their best master-blenders, have never been able to achieve quite the same result.
Although many people imagine that Champagnes are all white, this is not quite true. Rosé champagnes also exist.
Finally, please, the correct way to open a champagne cork is to ease it very gently out of the bottle. It is not to imitate a victorious Formula One racing driver and spray the contents of the bottle all over one's guests.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Cocoa on March 14, 2010, 08:50:47 PM
A Wine or Vine Detour? But I wish it is a Fast Forward.  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2010, 11:07:33 PM
Thanks for the screencaps puddin!! :hearts:

Here is the Preview:


Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Boingo on March 14, 2010, 11:38:14 PM
 :lol:  Just throwing this out there... while the Taittinger (Champagne Cellers) may be in Reims, the most famous of their vineyards is near Pierry (about 15 miles to the south) at Château de la Marquetterie.  We do see Caite and the other one romping around the vines, so maybe the glass pyramid is in a "carriage house" style structure at the vineyards.   :keeta:  carry on... *hic*
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2010, 07:03:19 AM
Just an FYI...thanks Boingo!!

Taittinger Champagne
In 1734, Jacques Fourneaux, a merchant of champagne wines, established the company that would some day become Taittinger.

In that early part of the XVIIIth century, the Benedictine abbeys of Hautvillers, Pierry, Verzy, and Saint-Nicaise in Reims, owned the best vineyards in the Champagne region. They cultivated the vines and pressed the harvest to produce the first sparkling wines which they either sold themselves, or through agents in Epernay or Reims.

Jacques Fourneaux therefore joined the great adventure of the champagne trade...cautiously at first.

The House of the Counts of Champagne
The company prospered throughout the XIXth century and after the First World War moved to the fine XIIIth century historical residence located on rue de Tambour: "The House of the Counts of Champagne". This was the home of Thibaud IV, known as the Singer, who brought back from Cyprus the vines which are the ancestors of today's Chardonnay.

It is at this time that the merger occurred between the company, which had come to be known as Fourneaux-Forest, and the Taittinger family, which would ultimately take control.

Fourneaux-Forest label, 1839 vintage
The Taittinger family had its roots in Lorraine, but left its native province in 1870 following the Treaty of Frankfurt and settled in the Paris area in order to retain its French nationality.


Château de la Marquetterie
In around 1912, Pierre-Charles Taittinger was running a business involved in the distribution and export of champagne with one of his brothers-in-law. A young cavalry officer during the First World War he made his first visit to the Château de la Marquetterie near Epernay, at that time the headquarters of General de Castelnau and Marshal Joffre. He instantly fell in love with this magnificent property in the purest XVIIIth century style, anchored to the slope of one of the finest Champagne hillsides; its vineyards, unusually, planted partly with white "Chardonnay" grapes and partly with red "Pinot", giving the vineyards the appearance of a huge chessboard in the weeks leading up to the harvest. The vineyards of la Marquetterie had been run by Friar Oudart, one of the founding fathers of champagne.

In 1932 Pierre Taittinger succeeded in acquiring the great residence, which had formerly been home to the philosopher Cazotte, who was sent to the guillotine during the French Revolution for his loyalty to King Louis XVI.

Something of an innovator and visionary, Pierre Taittinger decided that Chardonnay was to be the dominant grape for the brand. This has been a wise choice since the modern consumer enjoys the lightness, finesse and elegance afforded by this variety. From 1945, François, the third son of Pierre Taittinger, along with his two brothers Jean and Claude, oversaw a period of remarkable growth for the champagne house which for a number of years had carried their family name and began operation in the cellars of the Saint-Nicaise monastery, built in the XIIIth century on magnificent Gallo-Roman chalk cellars dating from the second century. A tragic car accident in 1960 cut short his brief but prolific career. Since then Claude Taittinger has presided over the destiny of one of the last great champagne houses to bear the name of the family that runs it, himself overseeing the quality of its products in line with tradition.

http://www.taittinger-champagne.sparklingdirect.co.uk/
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: serendipity on March 15, 2010, 08:22:09 AM
Their vineyard's in Rheims, I believe!

Just one set-up. Fast Forward?

Agree! The champagne thing looks like Fast Forward, just wondering why Caite/Brent can get to that before other teams, maybe a bunching at the start?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: DrRox on March 15, 2010, 10:54:24 AM
So is "Cathy Drone" the name of the particular vineyard that Brent/Caite are wandering around in, trying to find the location of the carriage house?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Boingo on March 15, 2010, 11:26:09 AM
 :lol:  My guess it's a Methuselah (6 liter) or Salamanzer (9 liter) bottle (non-vintage prices approx. $600-$1000) used in the pyramid pouring.

IIRC, Taittinger uses the Chardonnay varietal in it's champagnes.   :keeta:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: gator27 on March 15, 2010, 12:25:51 PM
So is "Cathy Drone" the name of the particular vineyard that Brent/Caite are wandering around in, trying to find the location of the carriage house?

Someone messing up French words - cafe du Rhone?  cote du Rhone?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 15, 2010, 12:30:46 PM
some info:
Champagne. The Champagne region, centered on the towns of Reims (Rheims) and Epernay, is the most northern of France's major vineyards. Unlike most of the best French wines, champagnes are blended in order to produce either non vintage champagnes (blended from different years) or vintage champagne, blended from wines of the same harvest. Consequently, since the quality of the champagne ultimately depends on a balance between the quality of the grapes and the skill of the blenders, Champagnes are also ranked and promoted by producer, not by any more finely delimited appellation . Possibly the most highly rated of blends is Krug; other well appreciated brands include Mumm, Bollinger and Heidsieck, not to mention the very well known brands of Moët & Chandon and Taittinger.The distinct taste and purity of real champagne is certainly due to the chalky soil and the continental growing conditions that abound in the Champagne region. Several of the main French Champagne producers have set up branches and vineyards in California, but in spite of bringing over their best master-blenders, have never been able to achieve quite the same result.
Although many people imagine that Champagnes are all white, this is not quite true. Rosé champagnes also exist.
Finally, please, the correct way to open a champagne cork is to ease it very gently out of the bottle. It is not to imitate a victorious Formula One racing driver and spray the contents of the bottle all over one's guests.

From my knowledge, which comes from a tour of the champagne region 25 years ago, b4us has the most succinct handle on the Champagne region. It is extensive, but the centers of it are Rheims and Epernay. The most prominent producers with major tour operations of their storage areas and tastings are:

Rheims - Krug, Mumm, Piper Heidsieck, Veuve-Cliquot, Tattinger
Epernay - Heidsieck & Co., Moet & Chandon, Perrier-Jouet

All of the producers have vineyards scattered around the region, so a chateau stacking wine glasses for show could be located anywhere.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 15, 2010, 12:35:06 PM
:lol:  My guess it's a Methuselah (6 liter) or Salamanzer (9 liter) bottle (non-vintage prices approx. $600-$1000) used in the pyramid pouring.

IIRC, Taittinger uses the Chardonnay varietal in it's champagnes.   :keeta:

One of the things I learned on my tour of the Champagne region is that French champagne makers blend anything they wish to get a year-to-year uniform taste. They are not required to exclusively use champagne grapes(Chardonnay, Pinot noir and Pinot Meunier) from the Champagne region. What masters is consistency of taste.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 15, 2010, 01:47:29 PM
I am going to make a guess that this title is a reference to Notre-Dame de Rheims (Our Lady of Rheims) the Roman Catholic cathedral  of Rheims, where the kings of France were once crowned. A major site for tourism in the Champagne region, it accommodated about half a million visitors in recent years.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: slpdx on March 15, 2010, 02:56:55 PM
There is a new :30 clip posted at CBS (sorry, I can't bring it over from the computer I'm on).  It's not just C/B doing the champagne tower, so it definitely looks like a detour task.   The RB may be going down into the cellar looking for a specific bottle.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Sailing on March 15, 2010, 03:02:24 PM



The Amazing Race 16 - Cathy Drone?

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Zack. on March 15, 2010, 03:15:40 PM
That's a nice shot of the Rheims Cathedral (http://www.inspiredinfrance.com/?Region=the-north&SubRegion=champagne-ardenne&Article=reims-cathedral) at the start. Near there is a statue of Joan of Arc, so I guess we're definitely in Rheims.

Detour - Pluck or Place?

I have a funny feeling this entire leg will center around Tattinger's vineyard.



Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: caper on March 15, 2010, 03:48:24 PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%206%20Cotes%20du%20Rhone/TAR16ep6lady.jpg)

Don't know who she is, but think she is the same as in puddin's cap.

check this site out:http://www.zazzle.com/linstant_taittinger_binder-127398744672694993
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: puddin on March 15, 2010, 03:54:55 PM
CHAMPAGNE ON THE BRAIN LEADS RACERS TO THE WRONG CITY, AND ONE TEAM'S POSITION IN THE RACE IS SECURED  BY A ROLL OF DUCT TAPE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, MARCH 21
ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK

"Cathy Drone?" (France) – Racers are less than bubbly after sprinting to the wrong Detour location, and one Racer tests the power of duct tape after their car becomes a casualty of the Race, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 21 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: gator27 on March 15, 2010, 06:42:30 PM
CHAMPAGNE ON THE BRAIN LEADS RACERS TO THE WRONG CITY, AND ONE TEAM'S POSITION IN THE RACE IS SECURED  BY A ROLL OF DUCT TAPE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, MARCH 21
ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK

"Cathy Drone?" (France) – Racers are less than bubbly after sprinting to the wrong Detour location, and one Racer tests the power of duct tape after their car becomes a casualty of the Race, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 21 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.


Hmmm.  We saw Steve and Allie mash their car's fender.  Now they will apply duct tape.
Who goes to the wrong Detour location?  J&J are not too swift directions and there's the whole Caite and geography thing.

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Boingo on March 15, 2010, 06:52:54 PM
 :lol: How to open a champagne bottle with a sword (http://www.wikihow.com/Open-a-Champagne-Bottle-with-a-Sword) instructions.  :keeta:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: DianeC on March 15, 2010, 06:58:55 PM
CHAMPAGNE ON THE BRAIN LEADS RACERS TO THE WRONG CITY, AND ONE TEAM'S POSITION IN THE RACE IS SECURED  BY A ROLL OF DUCT TAPE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, MARCH 21
ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK

"Cathy Drone?" (France) – Racers are less than bubbly after sprinting to the wrong Detour location, and one Racer tests the power of duct tape after their car becomes a casualty of the Race, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 21 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.



Hmmm.  We saw Steve and Allie mash their car's fender.  Now they will apply duct tape.
Who goes to the wrong Detour location?  J&J are not too swift directions and there's the whole Caite and geography thing.


Lord, this 1st part says RACERS go to the wrong CITY...then it says RACERS sprint to the wrong DETOUR location.....So does it appears to be more than one team or are they using RACERS to mean "the team"? And do they go to the wrong city & detour location? Geesh
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: gator27 on March 15, 2010, 07:43:50 PM
:lol: How to open a champagne bottle with a sword (http://www.wikihow.com/Open-a-Champagne-Bottle-with-a-Sword) instructions.  :keeta:

Awesome.  I'm sure Dan & Jordan would thank you.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2010, 09:56:56 PM
I'll get them screencap'd in a while!! :hearts:

Meanwhile...I see a gate with a B ....what's that all about??
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 15, 2010, 10:14:24 PM
My memory of French history is that in 1431 Joan of Arc drove out the British from the French mainland. The uncrowned King Charles VII sent her to the siege at Orléans as part of a relief mission. She gained prominence when she lifted the siege in only 9 days. Several more swift victories led to Charles VII's coronation at Rheims and settled the disputed succession to the throne.

There is a definitive tie between Joan of Arc and that cathedral"Cathy"). I still can't figure out where drone comes in=, as there are several different definitions of drone, none of which appears to make any sense in this context.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2010, 10:28:25 PM
Screencaps: :hearts: with BIG thanks to a friend!!


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MORE COMING....
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: gingerman28 on March 15, 2010, 10:31:55 PM
My memory of French history is that in 1431 Joan of Arc drove out the British from the French mainland. The uncrowned King Charles VII sent her to the siege at Orléans as part of a relief mission. She gained prominence when she lifted the siege in only 9 days. Several more swift victories led to Charles VII's coronation at Rheims and settled the disputed succession to the throne.

There is a definitive tie between Joan of Arc and that cathedral"Cathy"). I still can't figure out where drone comes in=, as there are several different definitions of drone, none of which appears to make any sense in this context.

Later she was captured by the British (betrayed by her own countrymen, Jealosy?), tried as a heritic, condemed and burned at the stake.  The actual spot in Rheims is marked by a plaque and monument. Not actually in front of the Cathedral, but nearby.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Snooky on March 15, 2010, 10:34:29 PM
Yay @ Notre Dame!
 :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2010, 10:36:28 PM
MORE:


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Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2010, 10:45:38 PM
Is Jeff holding a FF clue??

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%206%20Cotes%20du%20Rhone/TAR16ep6JeffholdingFF.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2010, 10:46:32 PM
Yay @ Notre Dame!
 :hearts:

Think it is Rheims Cathedral....
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2010, 10:47:54 PM
My memory of French history is that in 1431 Joan of Arc drove out the British from the French mainland. The uncrowned King Charles VII sent her to the siege at Orléans as part of a relief mission. She gained prominence when she lifted the siege in only 9 days. Several more swift victories led to Charles VII's coronation at Rheims and settled the disputed succession to the throne.

There is a definitive tie between Joan of Arc and that cathedral"Cathy"). I still can't figure out where drone comes in=, as there are several different definitions of drone, none of which appears to make any sense in this context.

Thinking this is just someone who can't pronounce something like Cotes du Rhone....
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Snooky on March 15, 2010, 10:53:21 PM
Yay @ Notre Dame!
 :hearts:

Think it is Rheims Cathedral....
Yeah it's the Reims Notre Dame..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_Reims
And the horseman statue screencap is joan d'arc by the cathedral.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2010, 10:53:56 PM
From a friend:

"FWIW, the cathedral shown is the cathedral of Reims, where kings of France were crowned. It was here that Joan of Arc brought Charles VII after liberation to have him crowned. Heavily damaged during the war, and rebuilt with money from the Rockefellers. The statue of Joan of Arc is located on the Place du Parvis in Reims. Parvis is the empty square in front of the cathedral. The Place du Parvis is just north of that. When looking at the vidcap of the Cathedral, the parvis is the empty space in front of the cathedral. If you turned 90 degrees to the left you would see the statue of Joan of Arc. "
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2010, 11:34:16 PM
Looks like a match to the Caves Tattinger to me??

http://www.pbase.com/oliviermondet/taittinger
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2010, 11:42:35 PM
from Grape Radio:

The roots of Taittinger date back to 1734, when Champagne merchant Jacques Fourneaux established his company. The business prospered through the 19th century, ultimately Fourneaux-Forest merged with the Taittinger family, who retained control.

Join us as we accompany Cellarmaster Loïc Dupont through the famous Taittinger cellars, located in Reims on the site of Gallo-Roman chalk mines dug during the 4th century, and enlarged in the 13th century by the Saint Nicaise Abbey monks to provide storage for the Champagne wines which they traded in. Remains of the Abbey, which was destroyed during the French Revolution, are still visible today throughout the tunnels, in an excellent state of preservation.

For More Information on Champagne Taittinger: www.taittinger.com


Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2010, 11:52:49 PM
45 minutes Reims to Paris by TGV?

http://www.bookrags.com/news/new-high-speed-train-to-champagne-moc/
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: DianeC on March 15, 2010, 11:53:12 PM
Is Jeff holding a FF clue??

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%206%20Cotes%20du%20Rhone/TAR16ep6JeffholdingFF.jpg)

Aren't FF's all green?
 clue envelopes with the green Fast Forward marker can usually be spotted by the viewers(Googled this).

This looks like it has a compass or something on it...Is that a Roadblock sign?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2010, 11:56:07 PM
Is the RB a rappel down to the chalk caves?

Taittinger
The oldest parts of Taittinger’s caves (called crayères in Champagne, from the French craie, chalk) were first excavated by Gallic slaves under the fourth-century Roman occupation to provide building materials for the growing city above. Look for the many curious grotesques carved into the chalk.

In the thirteenth century, the caves were enlarged by the monks of the Abbey of Saint Nicaise, who used them to store the champagne in which they traded. While the abbey was destroyed in the French Revolution, well-preserved portions still remain visible in the tunnels.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: b4us on March 16, 2010, 01:09:18 AM
45 minutes Reims to Paris by TGV?

http://www.bookrags.com/news/new-high-speed-train-to-champagne-moc/


Yes.  Also this train goes to Gare de I'Est station in Paris and from there one can go by walking/metro/taxi to many famous places for pitstop; also connector to CDG.   I'm lovin the France legs.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Zack. on March 16, 2010, 01:14:32 AM
Peach, I think that's just the bottom of the RI; I think they're headed to the Pit Stop.

And is Allie holding a Detour clue or a map when they crash? We do know one team gets lost on the way to the Detour.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: caper on March 16, 2010, 05:49:14 AM
The B is the symbol used for Bordeaux
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 16, 2010, 07:33:28 AM
Yay @ Notre Dame!
 :hearts:

Think it is Rheims Cathedral....
It is, but also named Notre-Dame just like the more famous one in Paris.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 16, 2010, 08:34:56 AM
45 minutes Reims to Paris by TGV?

http://www.bookrags.com/news/new-high-speed-train-to-champagne-moc/
No trains go to CDG from Reims, but the new champagne-Ardennes TGV station is only 5km from Reims, so that is where AR16 teams are very likely to have boarded the TGV direct to CDG. It takes only 30 to 34 minutes because CDG is 16 miles NE of Paris center and Reims is ENE of Paris center
Here is the official current schedule and it is probably quite close to the one in effect in the first week of December:

GV number       2778 2760 5420/1 5486/7 5420/1 5450/1 2662 5470/1 2664 5486/7 5422/3 2672 2784 5424/5

Bar-le-Duc         6.14    .    .    .    .    .    .        .    .    .    .                                                        17.13    .
Vitry-le-François           .    .    .    .    .    .        .    .    .    .                                                        17.38    .
Meuse TGV         6.39 7.19           .                     9.10      9.50           11.12    .                  16.19    .    .
Châlons-en-          6.57                                                                                                            17.57                 
Champagne
Reims         .    .        .    .    .    .    .    .        .    .    .    .
Champagne-
Ardenne TGV         7.20       7.34   8.28      8.57   9.44           10.49    .       11.20    13.47    .       18.19  20.57
Marne-la-Vallée - Disney         .     8.57              10.13           11.18   .         11.49
Massy TGV                                                                          11.58             12.26    .    .    .    .
Airport CDG-TGV         .       8.08              9.27    .           .      .    .                         14.19    .    .            21.28
Paris Est              8.00 8.19     .    .    .                           10.49    .       12.11    .    .             17.20 19.00    .
 
Days of Non-Op    Sun SaSun Sun SaSun    6        NONE   6      NONE      6      M-F   NONE   NONE   NONE   Sun
        
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 16, 2010, 11:11:50 AM
If you study the above rail schedule, a few aspects are paramount:

1. Although there are trains to Paris-Est, from which teams could catch a train to CDG airport 16 miles away, I doubt that they will do that.
2. Trains from the Champagne- Ardennes TGV station direct to CDG are at 734am, 827am, 147pm and 857pm. I think teams will take one of these.
3. You might think that a reasonable alternative to the Champagne-Ardennes TGV station is the Meuse TGV statio or the Massy TGV station. However, Meuse is 100 km east of Reims in precisely the wrong direction and neither one has trains to CDG..
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: gator27 on March 16, 2010, 11:30:20 AM
MORE:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%206%20Cotes%20du%20Rhone/TARwebcathydrone45.jpg)

Roadblock in the cellar finding the right wine bottle
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: gingerman28 on March 16, 2010, 03:03:54 PM
Is Jeff holding a FF clue??

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%206%20Cotes%20du%20Rhone/TAR16ep6JeffholdingFF.jpg)

Aren't FF's all green?
 clue envelopes with the green Fast Forward marker can usually be spotted by the viewers(Googled this).

This looks like it has a compass or something on it...Is that a Roadblock sign?

It could be a FF clue covered up by driving instructions which would be in white.  It sure looks like a compass, but it didn't do Jeff much good the last time he tried to use it in Argentina.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Plaidmoon on March 16, 2010, 06:52:04 PM
The B is the symbol used for Bordeaux

It looks like they are doing the more flamboyant and flashy style of opening a Champagne bottle using a sword. The trick is to hit the cork hard enough to make it pop from the bottle but not so hard that you break the neck of the bottle. It looks like Cord (or is it Jet?) is doing it correctly.

Plaidmoon
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Belle Book on March 16, 2010, 07:11:53 PM
My memory of French history is that in 1431 Joan of Arc drove out the British from the French mainland. The uncrowned King Charles VII sent her to the siege at Orléans as part of a relief mission. She gained prominence when she lifted the siege in only 9 days. Several more swift victories led to Charles VII's coronation at Rheims and settled the disputed succession to the throne.

There is a definitive tie between Joan of Arc and that cathedral"Cathy"). I still can't figure out where drone comes in=, as there are several different definitions of drone, none of which appears to make any sense in this context.

Later she was captured by the British (betrayed by her own countrymen, Jealosy?), tried as a heritic, condemed and burned at the stake.  The actual spot in Rheims is marked by a plaque and monument. Not actually in front of the Cathedral, but nearby.

The Burgundians captured Joan -- they were allied with the British, so it wasn't jealousy.

Belle Book
 
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Plaidmoon on March 16, 2010, 07:27:05 PM
MORE:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%206%20Cotes%20du%20Rhone/TARwebcathydrone45.jpg)

Roadblock in the cellar finding the right wine bottle

Those racks are the riddling racks where the bottles are stored during aging. They turn each bottle a quarter turn each week or so to get the yeast sediment to settle into the neck of the bottles. Later they will freeze the neck of the bottle, remove the cork and let the internal pressure force the frozen champagne with the sediment out of the bottle and quickly reseal it. It makes for clear and uncloudy champagne. It might have been a fun and messy roadblock to have the teams try to do that process, but I imagine any bottles they did would have been ruined (or at least unsuitable for selling), so perhaps the company didn't want to do it unless WRP paid a few thousand dollars for the wasted bottles.

Notice that those bottles are unlabeled. They probably have some distinguishing chalk mark they are looking for.  The search should be a challenge because as you can see in the background, there are many, many racks like the one he is looking at.

Plaidmoon
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: gingerman28 on March 16, 2010, 09:28:48 PM
Sorry, I got my French cities mixed up.  Joan de Arc was tried and executed in Rouen not Reims.  Who can tell one French city from another? Especially in medieval times.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: mariamindy on March 17, 2010, 12:18:28 AM
I know this is completely irrelevant, but... mistaking Joan of Arc with Noah's arc!?
I'm still laughing my socks off!!!   :lol3:

Seriously??? how does she live without "contaminating" herself with knowledge??   :groan:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 17, 2010, 02:34:26 AM
I know this is completely irrelevant, but... mistaking Joan of Arc with Noah's arc!?
I'm still laughing my socks off!!!   :lol3:

Seriously??? how does she live without "contaminating" herself with knowledge??   :groan:
I Still can't believe it, myself! This is just epic! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: ZBC Company on March 17, 2010, 05:23:13 AM
Right know this legs is all about wine and champange
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: amazingracer24 on March 17, 2010, 06:43:28 AM
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Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: gator27 on March 17, 2010, 07:14:43 AM
Screencaps: :hearts: with BIG thanks to a friend!!

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%206%20Cotes%20du%20Rhone/TARwebcathydrone09.jpg)

MORE COMING....

When watching/coaching someone how to open a champagne bottle with a sword, it is not smart to stand in a location where you could also be opened by the sword.  If Jordan gets a chance with the sword, that dude should be behind the gate!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 17, 2010, 11:18:24 AM
Both Brandy and Cord are wearing the wireless mics (to hear them while being lowered down the shaft, I suppose), so the sword thing must be the last part of the RB.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: gator27 on March 17, 2010, 11:28:38 AM
Both Brandy and Cord are wearing the wireless mics (to hear them while being lowered down the shaft, I suppose), so the sword thing must be the last part of the RB.

Good eye!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: gingerman28 on March 17, 2010, 02:12:50 PM
Both Brandy and Cord are wearing the wireless mics (to hear them while being lowered down the shaft, I suppose), so the sword thing must be the last part of the RB.

Good eye!

and if you break the bottle, you have to go back down the well, look through the cellars and find another bottle?

A two part RB?  Knock the cork off a bottle, receive second clue sending you down into the cellars to find a bottle marked with the TAR symbol.???
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Mattjimf on March 17, 2010, 03:14:10 PM
Maybe they have to open the bottle to get the clue out.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: DrRox on March 17, 2010, 03:19:52 PM
I think they get to knock the cork off AFTER they find the bottle in the cellar. That's why the Cowboys are smiliing.....they are finished!!!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2010, 04:04:17 PM
A three part RB??

Rappel down into the cellars? (whatever happened to taking the elevator? :lol: )
Find a specailly marked bottle (don't mess with the good dtuff!)
And chop the head off that bottle!

Heee...throw in some caviar and this is SO the leg for me!! Yum!!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: gingerman28 on March 17, 2010, 10:34:29 PM
Both Brandy and Cord are wearing the wireless mics (to hear them while being lowered down the shaft, I suppose), so the sword thing must be the last part of the RB.

What does Brandy have in her left hand?  She seems to be turning off her headlight with the right hand.

There are going to be many a happy team with all that champagne waiting to be consumed by someone, some time :yess:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: amazingracer24 on March 18, 2010, 03:38:40 AM
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Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: gator27 on March 18, 2010, 07:02:55 AM
Both Brandy and Cord are wearing the wireless mics (to hear them while being lowered down the shaft, I suppose), so the sword thing must be the last part of the RB.

What does Brandy have in her left hand?  She seems to be turning off her headlight with the right hand.

There are going to be many a happy team with all that champagne waiting to be consumed by someone, some time :yess:

It looks like a bottle to me.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 18, 2010, 09:24:20 AM
This is probably obvious - but this photo of Jeff driving is on Rue Victor Hugo - just before the entrance to Tattinger.
He's going the wrong direction if he is driving directly from Wargmoulin though - which leads me to believe that the task in the vineyards comes before the Champagne tasks.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: DianeC on March 18, 2010, 10:05:23 AM
This is probably obvious - but this photo of Jeff driving is on Rue Victor Hugo - just before the entrance to Tattinger.
He's going the wrong direction if he is driving directly from Wargmoulin though - which leads me to believe that the task in the vineyards comes before the Champagne tasks.

Well the promo clue says racers get lost on the detour..Are you saying that JJ are lost by going in the wrong direction here?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 18, 2010, 10:44:29 AM
This is probably obvious - but this photo of Jeff driving is on Rue Victor Hugo - just before the entrance to Tattinger.
He's going the wrong direction if he is driving directly from Wargmoulin though - which leads me to believe that the task in the vineyards comes before the Champagne tasks.

Well the promo clue says racers get lost on the detour..Are you saying that JJ are lost by going in the wrong direction here?
What I'm saying is that Jeff is driving in Reims in a direction that is not consistent with him coming directly from Wargemoulin to Tattinger's Saint Nicaise chalk caves. So either they were a little lost, or there was something that took them in another direction before the tasks at Tattinger Reims.
My guess is that they visit one of Tattinger's vineyards as part of a general task, find the special grapes, then travel to Reims for the Roadblock.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: DianeC on March 18, 2010, 11:00:36 AM
OK thanks... :tup:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Zack. on March 18, 2010, 11:19:01 AM
I think the grapes are a part of the Detour.

They mention Joan of Arc in their car, so they might be going to that statue by the Cathedral (my guess is for a Pit Stop, but it could also be for a general RI)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 18, 2010, 11:20:45 AM
This is probably obvious - but this photo of Jeff driving is on Rue Victor Hugo - just before the entrance to Tattinger.
He's going the wrong direction if he is driving directly from Wargmoulin though - which leads me to believe that the task in the vineyards comes before the Champagne tasks.

Really nice pick up, wp!! Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: DianeC on March 18, 2010, 04:24:40 PM
This is probably obvious - but this photo of Jeff driving is on Rue Victor Hugo - just before the entrance to Tattinger.
He's going the wrong direction if he is driving directly from Wargmoulin though - which leads me to believe that the task in the vineyards comes before the Champagne tasks.

Any idea what those papers say on the car windshields? Just maybe Taittinger ID's or TAR related?? I can't get to read close-up....or maybe just flyers to "EAT AT JOE'S!Ha JK
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: DianeC on March 19, 2010, 12:22:08 PM
I can't bring this here but here is the New Episode 6 Promo Video

https://www.cbsmediamanager.com/video_download/index.php

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 19, 2010, 01:17:05 PM
Hello Jeff and Jordan!
What are you doing outside Vogue Urban Clothing in Reims? And more importantly - when did you get there and where were you before???

I note that Jeff is driving and does not have his coat on...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Sailing on March 19, 2010, 01:29:03 PM
When Brent and Catie are stacking the wine glasses and then Brent pours the wine and they fall. Does that mean they fail the Fast Forward task or can they try and re-stack them to complete the task?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Boingo on March 19, 2010, 01:30:46 PM
 :yess:  had it the first time... the pyramid pouring is at the Taittinger vineyards of Chateau de la Marquetterie carriage house in Pierry.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: chill_sd on March 19, 2010, 01:55:22 PM
When Brent and Catie are stacking the wine glasses and then Brent pours the wine and they fall. Does that mean they fail the Fast Forward task or can they try and re-stack them to complete the task?

I believe the glass stacking/pouring is one side of the Detour.  Brent mentions that they might have already been able to find the marked cluster of grapes (which would be the other side of the Detour).
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Boingo on March 19, 2010, 02:05:37 PM
Hello Jeff and Jordan!
What are you doing outside Vogue Urban Clothing in Reims?

 :lol:  close... but it's Vogue Urban Clubbing (http://maps.google.com/places/fr/reims/boulevard-du-g%C3%A9n%C3%A9ral-leclerc/93/-vogue-urban-clubbing?cid=8177253480162681898&fb=1&hl=en&gl=us) ...  a nightclub  :snicker:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: gator27 on March 19, 2010, 02:18:23 PM
:yess:  had it the first time... the pyramid pouring is at the Taittinger vineyards of Chateau de la Marquetterie carriage house in Pierry.

Pierry is about 30 km south of Reims (and the Champagne caves) based on GE.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: chill_sd on March 19, 2010, 03:18:29 PM
Here's the new preview:


Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Boingo on March 19, 2010, 03:33:44 PM
 :lol: given there are about 3 square miles of vines surrounding the chateau (not really sure how many of them are Taittinger's), the pyramid pouring task doesn't sound all that tough...  :lol3:

..I'm sure they will limit the grape searchers to a pre-defined area..  :res:  :keeta:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Sailing on March 19, 2010, 04:27:43 PM
When Brent and Catie are stacking the wine glasses and then Brent pours the wine and they fall. Does that mean they fail the Fast Forward task or can they try and re-stack them to complete the task?

I believe the glass stacking/pouring is one side of the Detour.  Brent mentions that they might have already been able to find the marked cluster of grapes (which would be the other side of the Detour).


So there might not be a Fast Forward used this leg of the race? If Jeff does have a Fast Forward clue maybe they get lost on the way there? While the other teams decide to not try the FF task.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 19, 2010, 04:34:56 PM
We don't hsve any firm evidence of a FF...except one corner of a clue that could be green OR blue.

I'll do the screencaps on these tonight after work!! Thanks for the video!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 19, 2010, 07:01:48 PM
Just got this from CBS (for the first time this season):

Quote
CBS Sports live coverage of the NCAA Basketball Championship Tournament on Sunday, 3/21 could delay start times for 60 Minutes (7pm ET), Amazing Race (8pm ET), Undercover Boss (9pm ET) and Cold Case (10pm ET).

If so, you'll receive a new message on Sunday with exact details of revised start times.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 20, 2010, 06:05:37 AM
Sorry for the delay...had some computer issues.

Clock:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%206%20Cotes%20du%20Rhone/marked%20web%20promo%20caps/clock.jpg)


Other teams??

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Screencaps:

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Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 20, 2010, 06:46:11 AM
Just got this from CBS (for the first time this season):

Quote
CBS Sports live coverage of the NCAA Basketball Championship Tournament on Sunday, 3/21 could delay start times for 60 Minutes (7pm ET), Amazing Race (8pm ET), Undercover Boss (9pm ET) and Cold Case (10pm ET).

If so, you'll receive a new message on Sunday with exact details of revised start times.

CBS EYE-lerts do provide that service, but it cannot predict how long the delays will be. Based on experience from the last several years, I estimate that the East Coast delays for both March 21 and March 28 only will average about 15 minutes and top out at 30 minutes unless there is a multiple overtime NCAA game.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 21, 2010, 12:23:58 AM
We'll still have about an hour's heads up, as 60 Minutes will still air before TAR. But I'll do my best to relay their information Sunday night once something comes in my inbox.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: mswood on March 21, 2010, 12:29:39 PM
Do we see Louie & Michael in the footage of the detour and roadblock (I don't remember seeing them or Steve & Allie),  with the possibility of a fast forward I wouldn't be surprised at all if either of those teams went for it (or Jeff & Jordan, but since we don't think they survive this leg, then it would mean they really screwed up a fast forward).
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 21, 2010, 01:47:51 PM
We see Steve and Allie in the Vineyards...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Hooky on March 21, 2010, 02:06:06 PM
Do we see Louie & Michael in the footage of the detour and roadblock (I don't remember seeing them or Steve & Allie),  with the possibility of a fast forward I wouldn't be surprised at all if either of those teams went for it (or Jeff & Jordan, but since we don't think they survive this leg, then it would mean they really screwed up a fast forward).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Louie & Michael are the only team we don't see in any previews for this leg. Hmmm...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: mswood on March 21, 2010, 02:14:21 PM
We see Steve and Allie in the Vineyards...
Thanks Peach.

If that green clue was the Fast Forward clue (and it very possible is at this stage of the race, lately its been early to middle of the season), then I would assume that someone would go for it.

Usually teams that go for it are desperate to stay alive or the first team to get the clue.

If there is no equalizer at the start of the leg then it would be stupid for Louie & Michael to not go for it.  And of course it is possible even with an equalizer that they happen to get to that clue either first or before most teams.

Of course, it is possible that Jordan & Jeff go for it, either not realizing someone else went for it, or getting to the clue first and then screwing up on something basic like being able to find it (which I would laugh my ass off).
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: caper on March 21, 2010, 02:27:42 PM
Do we see Louie & Michael in the footage of the detour and roadblock (I don't remember seeing them or Steve & Allie),  with the possibility of a fast forward I wouldn't be surprised at all if either of those teams went for it (or Jeff & Jordan, but since we don't think they survive this leg, then it would mean they really screwed up a fast forward).
In the u-tube vid on page 1, at 11 seconds, someone says "you've got to be kidding me" as they are going into the vineyards - It looks like maybe  Louie and Mike???
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: NoLongerLurking on March 21, 2010, 02:53:52 PM
New CBS tweet:

  http://www.twitvid.com/9F682 
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: mswood on March 21, 2010, 03:05:06 PM
Well that certainly rules out a fast forward for Jordan & Jeff and the appear to be ahead of Steve & Allie.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: mswood on March 21, 2010, 03:07:55 PM
Do we see Louie & Michael in the footage of the detour and roadblock (I don't remember seeing them or Steve & Allie),  with the possibility of a fast forward I wouldn't be surprised at all if either of those teams went for it (or Jeff & Jordan, but since we don't think they survive this leg, then it would mean they really screwed up a fast forward).
In the u-tube vid on page 1, at 11 seconds, someone says "you've got to be kidding me" as they are going into the vineyards - It looks like maybe  Louie and Mike???
That very well might be Louie & Mike (Certainly their voice) and looks to big to be Dan & Jordan or Jet & Cord.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: DrRox on March 21, 2010, 03:51:37 PM
Seems to be crazy audio editing to me.  It seems to be Steve saying.........."We have to find a bunch of grapes" and then Mike says......."You got to be kidding".........It seems there is an audio splice between the two, to me.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 21, 2010, 04:03:14 PM
:yess:  had it the first time... the pyramid pouring is at the Taittinger vineyards of Chateau de la Marquetterie carriage house in Pierry.

Pierry is about 30 km south of Reims (and the Champagne caves) based on GE.
Pierry is only 2 miles from the center of Epernay and the distance gator27 says from Reims. I am hypothesizing that the sequence of tasks will start in Reims and then finish in or near Epernay.

That gives teams some options in getting to CDG airport. Backtracking to Reims does not make sense. It would be preferable to go to the 22 km Chalons-en-Champagne TGV station. With its direct trains to CDG, that would appear to be the quickest way to CDG.

I will add more after I do some train research. Her are the schedules for the TER trains Epernay to Paris-Est:

Epernay     Departure     5.22     6.34     6.56     8.07     8.38     8.56     9.47     09.59     10.48     12.56     12.56     13.06     15.19     16.42      16.53     17.45     17.45     18.43     19.03     19.31     20.47     20.24     21.33     21.57
PARIS-EST    Arrival    6.42    7.50    8.17    9.21    9.52    10.13    10.59    11.11    11.58    14.10    14.14    14.26    16.29    17.54    18.07    19.04    19.04    20.05    20.16    20.50    22.06    21.37    22.45    23.10

I am not providing the days-of-the-week because it gets complex and almost all trains run 7 days.
This obviously takes a maximum of 1.5 hours  and as little as 70 minutes.

There are options to get from Paris-Est to CDG. The best route is get to Gare-du-Nord and take the RER B which runs many times every hour. By cab if not in the afternoon rush hour it should not take more than 10 minutes by taxi. There are no direct buses. RER-B does not stop at Paris-Est. From Gare-du-Nord to CDG-Roissy takes about 15 minutes and RER-B runs from 455am until 1215am. It runs ab out every 3 minutes from 7am until 9pm and then is about 12 trains per hour druing the other operating hours.

From Chalons-en-Champagne TGV station, schedules are:

05:19   06:14   06:57   07:15   08:15   10:19   10:22   10:23   12:12   14:24   16:16   17:16   17:57   18:16   19:07   20:19
                                             
06:53   07:53   08:00   08:53   09:53   11:53   11:53   11:53   13:53   15:58   17:53   18:53   19:00   19:53   20:41   21:53

Again, most of these trains run every day, so I have not tried to copy over the complex details (it took me hours the last time I tried).

  
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: caper on March 21, 2010, 04:08:15 PM
In the above twitvid, Jeff and Jordan are entering Maison champagne Leclerc-Briant in Epernay. I'm not having any luck copying links
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 21, 2010, 04:09:19 PM
We'll still have about an hour's heads up, as 60 Minutes will still air before TAR. But I'll do my best to relay their information Sunday night once something comes in my inbox.

and I will do my best to figure out ahead of CBS when 60 Minutes will tip off. The "5pm" games are now revised to 508pm, 520pm and 525pm, but only the latest-finishing of them matters as CBS has shown that its telecasts will catch all possible game endings in a time slot. There may be Overtime in any of the games, which could extend them beyond a "normal" 2 hours with all those timeouts at the end of each half. I will guess that the Duke/California game will NOT be the last one finished, as Duke has a big edge and the game should not have as many starts/stops as the other 2 games. That means that I see a 725pm 60 Minutes start tonight unless there is Overtime.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: DeafRacer on March 21, 2010, 04:21:29 PM
I would love to share something with y'all that I just posted on facebook that angered a lot of BB fans!  :lol3:

Dear Jordan & Jeff,

Do me a favor? Please come in the last place tonight so I don't have to deal with your stupidness on the race anymore. AND, get eliminated! Then, we can really enjoy the AMAZING Race! K, thanx.

Love, Luke (I'm not a fan of crossover teams)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 21, 2010, 04:28:03 PM
Here is the road route from Pierry to CDG, Roissy:

151 km – about 1 hour 46 mins
   

1.   Head west      
1.9 km
2.   Exit onto Rue de Madrid      
0.3 km
3.   Slight right at Place de Madrid      
92 m
4.   Place de Madrid turns slightly right and becomes Rue de Madrid      
95 m
5.   At the traffic circle, take the 1st exit onto Rue de New York      
1.2 km
6.   At the traffic circle, take the 2nd exit onto Rue de la Fossette      
0.6 km
7.   At the traffic circle, take the 1st exit onto D212/Route Périphérique Aéroport de Paris-Roissy-Charles de Gaulle
Continue to follow D212
Go through 1 traffic circle
      
3.3 km
8.   Merge onto N2 via the ramp to A4/A1/Marne-la-Vallée/Villepinte      
4.9 km
9.   Take the exit onto A104 toward Marne-la-Vallée/Mitry-Mory/Villeparisis      
19.5 km
10.   Take the exit onto A4 toward Metz/Nancy/Reims
Partial toll road
      
89.4 km
11.   Take exit 21-Dormans toward Epernay/Fismes
Partial toll road
      
1.3 km
12.   Keep left at the fork, follow signs for Ville-en-Tardenois      
36 m
13.   Turn left at D980      
0.4 km
14.   Take the 1st right onto D23e      
2.8 km
15.   Continue straight onto D23      
6.1 km
16.   At the traffic circle, take the 3rd exit onto D1      
3.0 km
17.   Turn right at D601      
0.7 km
18.   Take the 1st left onto N3      
12.0 km
19.   At the traffic circle, take the 1st exit onto Avenue Jean Jaurès/D951 heading to A4/A26/Châlons-en-Champagne/Sézanne
Continue to follow D951
      
0.6 km
20.   Turn right at Boulevard du Cubry/D951
Continue to follow D951
Go through 1 traffic circle
      
1.9 km
21.   At the traffic circle, take the 1st exit onto Rue Jules Lobet      
0.4 km
22.   Continue onto Rue du Général de Gaulle      
0.3 km

Not too complex and doable in less than 2 hours, so that means if they have U-drive vehicles they might do that. Or they could take a taxi that distance, quite expensive but very fast.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 21, 2010, 04:48:26 PM
I would love to share something with y'all that I just posted on facebook that angered a lot of BB fans!  :lol3:

Dear Jordan & Jeff,

Do me a favor? Please come in the last place tonight so I don't have to deal with your stupidness on the race anymore. AND, get eliminated! Then, we can really enjoy the AMAZING Race! K, thanx.

Love, Luke (I'm not a fan of crossover teams)
Gosh, I guess I'll have to tell Robyn Kass not expect you to audition for the next BB...
 :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 21, 2010, 05:12:11 PM
In addition to the basketball, there's also a chance that the votes in the US House on the health care bill may also cause some interruptions in prime time tonight (and the White House has already announced that there will be a statement from President Obama after the final House vote on the Senate bill (even before the House votes on the second bill sometime this evening.)

I may have to control the recorder manually tonight. Seems as if CBS News would interrupt TAR the ways things are developing.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 21, 2010, 05:14:23 PM
Here is the latest NCAA timing:

Duke/California just went to the half with Duke up by 13.
Pittsburgh/Xavier went to the half quite a while ago and it is a 9 point game.
Texas A&M/Purdue has just gone to the half. It is a 7 point game.

This looks possible for a 715pm 60 Minutes start.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Dånooky on March 21, 2010, 05:26:10 PM
I would love to share something with y'all that I just posted on facebook that angered a lot of BB fans!  :lol3:

Dear Jordan & Jeff,

Do me a favor? Please come in the last place tonight so I don't have to deal with your stupidness on the race anymore. AND, get eliminated! Then, we can really enjoy the AMAZING Race! K, thanx.

Love, Luke (I'm not a fan of crossover teams)
Gosh, I guess I'll have to tell Robyn Kass not expect you to audition for the next BB...
 :lol3:
sinister deaf kid strikes again :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: NoluckBoston on March 21, 2010, 05:27:53 PM
My local news said that after tonight's Health Care Reform bill passes President Obama will be speaking out to the nation that will be carried live.

I hope it does not interrupt TAR.

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Boingo on March 21, 2010, 05:31:51 PM
In the above twitvid, Jeff and Jordan are entering Maison champagne Leclerc-Briant in Epernay. I'm not having any luck copying links

Champagne Leclerc Briant link (http://www.leclercbriant.com/index-uk.php3)   :snicker:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Boingo on March 21, 2010, 05:35:10 PM
 :lol:  looks like JJ confessional is outside...  perhaps by the pitstop location.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Hooky on March 21, 2010, 05:43:24 PM
My local news said that after tonight's Health Care Reform bill passes President Obama will be speaking out to the nation that will be carried live.

I hope it does not interrupt TAR.

Will there still be a statement if the bill doesn't pass?

*please don't pass, PLEASE don't pass* :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Boingo on March 21, 2010, 05:45:41 PM
 :lol3: hmmm.... loses something in the translation @ Leclerc-Briant
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: DianeC on March 21, 2010, 05:45:51 PM
I thought there was a JJ thread for all the JJ-bashing.... :'(  I happen to like them and don't apreesh!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Hooky on March 21, 2010, 05:46:30 PM
New CBS tweet:

  http://www.twitvid.com/9F682 

Welcome to RFF, NoLongerLurking! We're glad that you're not lurking anymore. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Hooky on March 21, 2010, 05:47:58 PM
I would love to share something with y'all that I just posted on facebook that angered a lot of BB fans!  :lol3:

Dear Jordan & Jeff,

Do me a favor? Please come in the last place tonight so I don't have to deal with your stupidness on the race anymore. AND, get eliminated! Then, we can really enjoy the AMAZING Race! K, thanx.

Love, Luke (I'm not a fan of crossover teams)

:lol3:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: b4us on March 21, 2010, 05:58:54 PM
My local news said that after tonight's Health Care Reform bill passes President Obama will be speaking out to the nation that will be carried live.

I hope it does not interrupt TAR.

Will there still be a statement if the bill doesn't pass?

*please don't pass, PLEASE don't pass* :lol:



Unless basketball pushes back the east coast viewing,  TAR viewing should not be interrupted.  There are 2 roll call votes and 2 hours of floor debate, beginning at 6:43 ET before the President speaks.


Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 21, 2010, 06:04:13 PM
Here are the schedules through mid-afternoon from Epernay to Paris-Est (all using TER rail system):

Depart    06h32      07h31     08h32      10h35   12h31     14h31
Duration  01h20      01h22      01h21    01h18    01h22     01h22
Arrive      07h52     08h53      09h35    11h53    13h53      15h53

Depart     14h31      16h31      17h31     18h32     20h36
Duration   01h22      01h22    01h22     01h21     01h17
Arrive       15h53      17h53    18h53    19h53     21h53

So, these trains depart around 31 after most hours and all arrive at 53 after the following hour.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 21, 2010, 06:19:00 PM
It's not clear if President Obama would speak once the "Senate bill" is passed even if the House has not yet voted on the "Reconcilation Bill." (The "Senate bill" can go directly to the President for signature.)

The first of the two real Roll Calls could start at about 8:40 pm ET and that would take no more than 15 minutes. (And that's likely to be right in the middle of TAR.) If they do wait until the second bill is passed, then it'll be close to 11 PM ET before the House is finished (and that could delay TAR on the West Coast, instead.)

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 21, 2010, 06:29:46 PM
So...which is closer to the trains?? The RB or the Detour? ???
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 21, 2010, 06:32:48 PM
Looks like our friends in Canada and elsewhere will see the whole episode before the East Coast -- NCAA game just went to overtime (7:30pm ET.)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 21, 2010, 06:34:44 PM
The LIVE episode thread is now open! :waves:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 21, 2010, 06:45:04 PM
PURDUE BEAT Texas A&M in OT. 60 Minutes will probably nto start until 750pm because I expect a long CBS wrap-up
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: GonzaloChileno on March 21, 2010, 06:46:24 PM
The LIVE episode thread is now open! :waves:

where?  :duno: please give me a link
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Caelestor on March 21, 2010, 06:51:47 PM
I would love to share something with y'all that I just posted on facebook that angered a lot of BB fans!  :lol3:

Dear Jordan & Jeff,

Do me a favor? Please come in the last place tonight so I don't have to deal with your stupidness on the race anymore. AND, get eliminated! Then, we can really enjoy the AMAZING Race! K, thanx.

Love, Luke (I'm not a fan of crossover teams)
Gosh, I guess I'll have to tell Robyn Kass not expect you to audition for the next BB...
 :lol3:

Get ready to see your wish come true.  :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 21, 2010, 06:51:55 PM
From CBS:

Quote
Revised start times for tonight's CBS programs: 60 Minutes (7:50pm ET), Amazing Race (8:50pm ET), Undercover Boss (9:50pm ET) and Cold Case (10:50pm ET) due to CBS Sports live coverage of the NCAA Basketball Championship Tournament.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: NoLongerLurking on March 21, 2010, 06:57:25 PM
New CBS tweet:

  http://www.twitvid.com/9F682 

Welcome to RFF, NoLongerLurking! We're glad that you're not lurking anymore. :lol:

Thank you, Hooky  :waves:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 21, 2010, 07:22:25 PM
:bigwelcome  NoLongerLurking!! Best kind of name!! :waves:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: GonzaloChileno on March 21, 2010, 07:41:24 PM
Please someone give me a link to the livestream!!! Please!!!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 21, 2010, 08:08:48 PM
Please someone give me a link to the livestream!!! Please!!!

That info is in the Watch Amazing Race live thread here:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21687.msg514076.html#msg514076
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 21, 2010, 08:41:58 PM
You know the episode hasn't finished airing here yet.  :knuckles: :knuckles: :knuckles:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 21, 2010, 09:56:59 PM
You know the episode hasn't finished airing here yet.  :knuckles: :knuckles: :knuckles:

Don't worry...the live link was time matched with NYC, so right with us, not ahead.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: NoLongerLurking on March 21, 2010, 10:26:36 PM
:bigwelcome  NoLongerLurking!! Best kind of name!! :waves:

Thanks for the welcome, Georgiapeach!  I have been a long time admirer of all the clever folks here.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 21, 2010, 10:38:00 PM
Always nice to have more help, so please join in the fun!! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Evan_Weinstein on March 22, 2010, 12:17:38 AM
yea, welcome NoLongerLurking to this community

here is the leaderboard as on the 6th episode
(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb135/Evan_Weinstein/TAR16.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Evan_Weinstein on March 22, 2010, 02:24:31 AM
just realised that this episode had the new intro, nice-ed
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Jobby on March 22, 2010, 09:53:07 AM
Great episode! Except with the fact that the detectives did a hat trick.. everything else was great!!

Great Detour choices, great Roadblock!

Self-driving for the entire leg!

Ambiguous clues! The bottle cork and the piece of clue that direct teams to Tattinger. And the Joan of Arc! Very well-planned leg!

I would have personally done the finding the grapes detour... building a pyramid worth of glasses... that's crazy. My respect goes out to Dan and Jordan for even completing that. I even think it's worth giving up 3 race placings to complete a feat like that.

Dan and Jordan were really great to watch this leg. I like the fact that the cowboys deal with setbacks with smiles. The duct tape that Steve used was great! Carol and Brandy were not being b***hes because they were obviously at the front of the pack...

As for Jeff and Jordan elimination... it was overdue. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 22, 2010, 03:12:14 PM
I see the glass stacking/champagne pouring exercise as foremost  a mathematical challenge. If I were running the race and had that task, the first thing I would ask for is calculator (even though I did not use on in what I describe below), pencil and paper tp figure out the theoretically strongest arrangement of glasses. I did this and it took me 12 minutes to get the soundest mathematical solution. My sense is that there are multiple solutions that work but one is probably optimum. Can you figure out the optimum without outside assistance and how long did it take you?

There is much more in this task than just the mathematical solution since how well the structure supports itself depends on how good you are building it (Boston Rob would excel at this part) but since I might have a half dozen champagne glasses available I don't expect to test my mathematical solution any time soon.

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: chill_sd on March 22, 2010, 03:37:05 PM
My guess would be a tetrahedral shape, rather than a pyramid.  The base would be a triangle with 15 glasses on each side, then 14, 13, etc.  This would total 681 680 glasses.  Each glass would rest on 3 below it, providing greater stability.



Edit: After reviewing the episode, I thought I would have to leave out one glass to make it 680, but I discovered I had miscalculated one of the levels, so the total of a triangular pyramid with 15 glasses at the base is 680, as stated by Phil.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 22, 2010, 03:57:43 PM
My guess would be a tetrahedral shape, rather than a pyramid.  The base would be a triangle with 15 glasses on each side, then 14, 13, etc.  This would total 681 glasses.  Each glass would rest on 3 below it, providing greater stability.
The example pyramid created by the "sommeliers" has a triangular base, whereas both sets of racers created theirs with a square base. Unfortunately neither team had the benefit of seeing the example and couldn't think outside the box.
I'm still having problems with the math though - how would you calculate this other than drawing it out level by level?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Belle Book on March 22, 2010, 04:00:05 PM
I would've gone with the grapes task.  Sure, it's a luck-based task but I don't think I'd have the skill to do the glasses one.  In most cases, it's better to go with skill than luck but there are exceptions -- and this is one of them.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: chill_sd on March 22, 2010, 04:10:42 PM
I'm still having problems with the math though - how would you calculate this other than drawing it out level by level?

There are some shortcuts for adding up triangular numbers, but as you can see from the edit above, I made a small mistake.  When I went back, I used a spread sheet to count all the glasses that would be in each row.

A quick explanation of the shortcut:  The bottom level would have rows of glasses starting with 1 at the top of the triangle and progressing to 15 at the bottom.  The top and bottom rows add up to 16, as do the 2nd and 14th rows.  So you have 7 pairs of rows adding up to 16 glasses each pair, and 8 in the middle row.  7 times 16 plus 8 = 120 glasses in the bottom layer.


PS - I would have used a similar trick to add up the numbers on a clock face (I don't remember which season, but it was part of a task involving finding numbers to open a safe).  The clock has 12 numbers, which can be paired up 1-12, 2-11, 3-10, 4-9. 5-8 and 6-7.  Six pairs that add up to 13.  6 times 13 = 78, which is the sum of the numbers 1 through 12.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Hooky on March 22, 2010, 05:04:13 PM
PS - I would have used a similar trick to add up the numbers on a clock face (I don't remember which season, but it was part of a task involving finding numbers to open a safe).  The clock has 12 numbers, which can be paired up 1-12, 2-11, 3-10, 4-9. 5-8 and 6-7.  Six pairs that add up to 13.  6 times 13 = 78, which is the sum of the numbers 1 through 12.

Season 3. :tup:

Great episode! Except with the fact that the detectives did a hat trick.. everything else was great!!

Great Detour choices, great Roadblock!

Self-driving for the entire leg!

Ambiguous clues! The bottle cork and the piece of clue that direct teams to Tattinger. And the Joan of Arc! Very well-planned leg!

I would have personally done the finding the grapes detour... building a pyramid worth of glasses... that's crazy. My respect goes out to Dan and Jordan for even completing that. I even think it's worth giving up 3 race placings to complete a feat like that.

Dan and Jordan were really great to watch this leg. I like the fact that the cowboys deal with setbacks with smiles. The duct tape that Steve used was great! Carol and Brandy were not being b***hes because they were obviously at the front of the pack...

As for Jeff and Jordan elimination... it was overdue. :lol:

This week (out of laziness) I will forego my usual rant/opinion about the leg and agree with everything you said. This was a great leg, and it managed to make up for being the second leg in a row without any bunching points. :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: cosmophobia on March 22, 2010, 08:08:49 PM
I'm still having problems with the math though - how would you calculate this other than drawing it out level by level?

There are some shortcuts for adding up triangular numbers, but as you can see from the edit above, I made a small mistake.  When I went back, I used a spread sheet to count all the glasses that would be in each row.

A quick explanation of the shortcut:  The bottom level would have rows of glasses starting with 1 at the top of the triangle and progressing to 15 at the bottom.  The top and bottom rows add up to 16, as do the 2nd and 14th rows.  So you have 7 pairs of rows adding up to 16 glasses each pair, and 8 in the middle row.  7 times 16 plus 8 = 120 glasses in the bottom layer.


PS - I would have used a similar trick to add up the numbers on a clock face (I don't remember which season, but it was part of a task involving finding numbers to open a safe).  The clock has 12 numbers, which can be paired up 1-12, 2-11, 3-10, 4-9. 5-8 and 6-7.  Six pairs that add up to 13.  6 times 13 = 78, which is the sum of the numbers 1 through 12.


Oh, it's quicker with a summatory formula. The number you want to add up to, multiplied by its succesor and divide by 2
so: (12x13):2 = 6x13= 78!
I LOVED that switzerland detour.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 22, 2010, 09:23:26 PM
OK, it's time to reveal in two parts what I know about the Champagne Pyramid Trick.

First you have to have a stable formation, a tetrahedron or triangular pyramid  that will use up 680 wine glasses. This is a lot harder than it sounds. I did a little by trial and error:
1. I looked at an extended bowling pin arrangement and discovered that with 15 glasses in the bottom triangle the total in the stack of having one less in each ascending row would be 666. Unless a square pattern fits better (which as you will see in #2 is not the case)you have to add glasses into the formation somewhere, which is one for each level except the top one (which has to be just 1)
2. You must switch to a square pattern and start the same way with a level 1 square of 9 x 9. Level 2 is 8x8, 64. Level 3 is 7x7, 49. Level 4 is 6x6, 36. Level 5 is 5x5, 25. level 6 is 4x4, 16, level 7  is 3x3, 8. level is 2x2, 4. level 9 is 1. Add them up quickly and you get 819, so level 1 must start with 12 and not 13. then you add them up to get 650. You can't get there from here on this one either.
3. A hybrid approach appears the only one that can work but I have to back off and say that the mathematical closure on this just isn't there. My mistakes in the earlier two approaches led to inaccurate conclusions, but I hope you had some fun trying out your mathematical dexterity. If anyone did better let's hear about it.


The other side of the equation is how to actually stack the glasses. Heresay has it that if you take out one glass from most many levels, the champagne will be able to drain through there. Here is what a professional bartender who has done this trick has been reported about the proper way to do it:

You know that the glasses have to be stacked in a pyramid.
Now here's the trick to filling all the glasses and not pouring your Champagne all over the table top....make sure your glasses are about a fingers width apart all around. If they're touching each other, the Champagne will follow the rims and stems and just dribble all over the place(not good). By keeping the glasses from touching each other, the Wine will follow the stems and bases of the glass just like the little waterfall you want to have.
You won't even need a tray under glasses.  No wine will wet the table as long as the glasses are not touching each other.

No doubt there will be those dissatisfied with this analysis. I say you should go out and buy 660 wine glasses and try it out.

I expect all of you will enjoy this demonstration of a tetrahedron shape with about 5000 glasses, which is totally amazing:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/343130/pyramid_of_glasses/

Try it at your next party.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Dånooky on March 22, 2010, 09:29:34 PM
OK, it's time to reveal in two parts what I know about the Champagne Pyramid Trick.

First you have to have a stable formation, a tetrahedron or triangular pyramid  that will use up 680 wine glasses. This is a lot harder than it sounds. I did a little by trial and error:
1. I looked at an extended bowling pin arrangement and discovered that with 15 glasses in the bottom triangle the total in the stack of having one less in each ascending row would be 666. Unless a square pattern fits better (which as you will see in #2 is not the case)you have to add glasses into the formation somewhere, which is one for each level except the top one (which has to be just 1)
2. You must switch to a square pattern and start the same way with a level 1 square of 9 x 9. Level 2 is 8x8, 64. Level 3 is 7x7, 49. Level 4 is 6x6, 36. Level 5 is 5x5, 25. level 6 is 4x4, 16, level 7  is 3x3, 8. level is 2x2, 4. level 9 is 1. Add them up quickly and you get 819, so level 1 must start with 12 and not 13. then you add them up to get 650. You can't get there from here on this one either.
3. A hybrid approach appears the only one that can work but I have to back off and say that the mathematical closure on this just isn't there. My mistakes in the earlier two approaches led to inaccurate conclusions, but I hope you had some fun trying out your mathematical dexterity. If anyone did better let's hear about it.


The other side of the equation is how to actually stack the glasses. Heresay has it that if you take out one glass from most many levels, the champagne will be able to drain through there. Here is what a professional bartender who has done this trick has been reported about the proper way to do it:

You know that the glasses have to be stacked in a pyramid.
Now here's the trick to filling all the glasses and not pouring your Champagne all over the table top....make sure your glasses are about a fingers width apart all around. If they're touching each other, the Champagne will follow the rims and stems and just dribble all over the place(not good). By keeping the glasses from touching each other, the Wine will follow the stems and bases of the glass just like the little waterfall you want to have.
You won't even need a tray under glasses.  No wine will wet the table as long as the glasses are not touching each other.

No doubt there will be those dissatisfied with this analysis. I say you should go out and buy 660 wine glasses and try it out.

I expect all of you will enjoy this demonstration of a tetrahedron shape with about 5000 glasses, which is totally amazing:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/343130/pyramid_of_glasses/

Try it at your next party.

Nice geometrical analysis, and I really want to try it myself (with plastic glasses, mind you :lol:). However, considering the average "apparent intelligence" (smarts shown on-screen) of this season's cast, grape-finding was obviously the safest choice. Kudos to the brothers for completing it even though they had to lose 2 positions.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 22, 2010, 11:31:36 PM
Grapes may have been the needle in the haystack task, but it certainly led to better efficiency as we found out. As we saw with Brent & Caite that stacking the glasses was practically a disaster waiting to happen. Although Dan & Jordan figured it out and did a great job with it.

I do like the increased self-driving this season and increased difficulty in the clues. Reminds me of the first two seasons. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: chill_sd on March 23, 2010, 12:34:16 AM
OK, it's time to reveal in two parts what I know about the Champagne Pyramid Trick.

First you have to have a stable formation, a tetrahedron or triangular pyramid  that will use up 680 wine glasses. This is a lot harder than it sounds. I did a little by trial and error:
1. I looked at an extended bowling pin arrangement and discovered that with 15 glasses in the bottom triangle the total in the stack of having one less in each ascending row would be 666. Unless a square pattern fits better (which as you will see in #2 is not the case)you have to add glasses into the formation somewhere, which is one for each level except the top one (which has to be just 1)

This is not accurate.  A tetrahedral stack with a base of 15 has the following number of glasses, starting at the top:

1+3+6+10+15+21+28+36+45+55+66+78+91+105+120 = 680 exactly.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 23, 2010, 03:00:57 PM
chill_sd,
You are correct. When I did that addition (by hand) I somehow left off 45 (9th level going up) from the cumulative addition of that sequence due to having the 9 in my first column but not putting anything across from it in the second column and not being able to find that mistake. That explains why I could not make it add up exactly. Thanks for getting it right.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Cocoa on March 25, 2010, 06:54:56 PM
I calculated and wondered how to stack 680 glasses in 15 levels while in the hospital, and I cannot seriously get it! Kudos chill!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Dånooky on March 25, 2010, 09:05:23 PM
I calculated and wondered how to stack 680 glasses in 15 levels while in the hospital, and I cannot seriously get it! Kudos chill!
Try this:
In a triangular fashion
1st level: 1
2nd level: 1 + 2
3rd: 1 + 2 + 3
...
15th: 1 + 2+ 3 + ... + 13 + 14 + 15

If you sum all levels you get (levels * glasses):
15*1 + 14*2 + 13*3 + ... + 9*7 + 8*8 + 7*9 + ... + 3*13 + 2*14 + 1*15
Which equals
2*[15*1 + 14*2 + 13*3 + ... + 9*7] + 8*8 = 680
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: mswood on March 29, 2010, 12:49:06 AM
Since I was so hard at Louie & Michael and ragging on them for winning a leg, when only Joe & Heidi actually took longer to perform that leg.

With times we can now say that Louie & Michael did in fact run the fastest leg (in fact the only time they have, even with 3 wins, go figure).

They finished the leg 1 minute faster then Carol & Brandy, and with the trouble they had in getting the first half of the leg done, I think they need to give a big thanks to the the lady giving them not only the correct directions (which Carol & Brandy were the only other team to get), but having someone drive them there.  I am willing to guess that was the deciding factor in their winning the leg, not just their performance.

Can I reiterate how much I hate it when teams get someone to lead them the whole way.  Directions I don't mind (as everyone does this), but drive yourself for christ sake.

Oh and Dan & Jordan while it was great that you guys manage to complete the detour.  Boy's it was the single dumbest thing you have done on this race, as that cost you roughly an additional 2 and a half hours over the team that got to the site after you did.  Its the first time they have been the team to actually take the most time to complete the day's task (I would guess that even Jordan & Jeff finished the leg faster).

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: BritishTARFan on May 20, 2015, 02:53:42 PM
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Title: Re: TAR16 - EP6: "Cathy Drone?" (France)
Post by: Alenaveda on May 20, 2015, 03:23:25 PM
If you want to test something, there's a topic in the support board, ok?

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,5502.0.html