Daniel Pious Age: 24 Hometown: Barrington, R.I. Connection to your teammate: Brother Current Occupation: Financial Advisor Pet peeve about your teammate: He is very intense Favorite hobbies: Watching and playing sports Achievements: Being at the Winter Classic when the Bruins won in overtime Lifelong to do list: Get a job with a major Boston sports team, get married, have kids and make them huge Boston sports fans If I could switch places with someone: Theo Epstein (GM of the Red Sox) Role Model/Hero: My dad and my grandfather What are you passionate about? Boston sports What would you do if you won the million dollars? I’d save and invest it. People would be surprised to learn: That I really dislike traveling and it will probably be the most difficult part of the race for me Favorite place you have ever visited: Fenway Park Biggest challenge you and your teammate will face on the Race together: Staying under the radar and not rubbing the other teams the wrong way, and finding food that I like What do you hope to accomplish by running the Race (other than winning one million bucks)? Jordan always wanted to be on the Race because it was his #1 dream in life. All I really want is to make it far enough so Jordan feels as if his dream is achieved
Jordan Pious Age: 22 Hometown: Barrington, R.I. Connection to your teammate: Brother Current Occupation: Strategic Consultant Pet peeve about your teammate: He hates to travel Favorite hobbies: Tennis, New England Patriots, dancing to my own beat Achievements: Graduating from Emory University’s Goizueta Business School with High Distinction in May 2009 Lifelong to do list: Travel the world, meet Tom Brady and start my own company. If I could switch places with someone: I wouldn’t Role Model/Hero: My parents. Their love for each other and our family, their work ethic, and the way they have supported me have really shaped who I am today. Also, Karen Rein, my best friend and life partner. She is what life is all about, love, happiness, and laughter What are you passionate about? Tackling life challenges and chasing after new ones and Boston sports What would you do if you won the million dollars: Save the money and use it to pay for my MBA People would be surprised to learn: I was considerably overweight during a decent portion of my teenage years. I weighed 200 lbs and was only 5'1". Favorite place you have ever visited: Israel Biggest challenge you and your teammate will face on the Race together: Focusing our intensity and competitive spirits on the Race itself rather than on each other What do you hope to accomplish by running the Race (other than winning one million bucks)? I want to create memories with my best friend and show my brother that there is more to our world than what we see at home
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Post by: RealityFreakWill on January 21, 2010, 01:01:51 PM
I'm totally rooting for them! Go Dan & Jordan!
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Post by: RealityFreakWill on January 21, 2010, 01:31:09 PM
They both approved me on FB and Dan was so nice to send me a PM thanking me for supporting them. He was very appreciative. I really do think they are going to be a fun team to watch.
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Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 21, 2010, 01:56:55 PM
A second team from RI! :yess:
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Post by: ZBC Company on January 21, 2010, 04:08:31 PM
I love this team but how going to tell whcih jordan i was shock a nother gay brother cbs as been doing lot casting for gay brothers but he is not gay i think we find nother dan and sam
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Post by: Hooky on January 21, 2010, 04:17:01 PM
I love this team but how going to tell whcih jordan i was shock a nother gay brother cbs as been doing lot casting for gay brothers but he is not gay i think we find nother dan and sam
I sure hope not.
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Post by: David on January 24, 2010, 09:52:54 AM
I'm sure JorDaniel will do well this season! When I see them, Derek and Drew come to my mind. Not physically, but they look like a F4 bet.
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Post by: theschnauzers on January 24, 2010, 03:43:07 PM
Another brother team where one of the brothers is a longtime fan of the show. Since this brother team is eight years younger than Jet and Cord, there isn't as much of a track record to go on. But it they communicate and work well together, they can be in the mix towards the end as well. (But I do worry that Dan's self-admitted need to be a control freak could pose problems.)
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 25, 2010, 01:49:21 PM
Dan and Jordan have started a Facebook Fan Page and have kindly given permission for us to have the link here:
While the info from this page is public, and we are allowed to share, please remember that all the other FB rules regarding their own personal FB pages still apply. That means no pictures, comments, quotes, or updates are ever brought here from any of the racers' pages unless they give written permission. If you are ever in doubt, please check with puddin or me before posting. :tup:
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Post by: RealityFanWA on January 29, 2010, 03:55:35 PM
I love this team but how going to tell whcih jordan i was shock a nother gay brother cbs as been doing lot casting for gay brothers but he is not gay i think we find nother dan and sam
I sure hope not.
I'm on the same page as you. I thought both brothers were gay until I read their bios and watched the video. I hope the do well.
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 12, 2010, 08:20:21 PM
Hopefully these guys don't repeatedly harp on Miss Teen USA, or they WILL start grating.
It was funny the first time, but then he kept doing it and it got old. When he ran to tell Carol and Brady about it at the airport then it was just annoying.
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Post by: Hooky on February 15, 2010, 01:14:58 PM
I just can't stand Jordan's voice. That's the thing that is getting old for me.
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Post by: Sailing on February 15, 2010, 01:17:46 PM
I just can't stand Jordan's voice. That's the thing that is getting old for me.
I forgot to add that. He whines too much. :'(
Houston, we've found this season's whiner :lol:
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Post by: redskevin88 on February 15, 2010, 11:20:06 PM
At least Sam & Dan were quite cute...
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 20, 2010, 09:08:52 PM
Why are so many Rhode Islanders on reality-TV shows?
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we do know four Rhode Islanders who are getting lots of air time. Jordan and Daniel Pious of Barrington are brothers and one team on this season’s “The Amazing Race.” Another team is Louis D. Stravato of Bristol and Michael Naylor of Warwick.
For the Barrington brothers, going on the show was not Daniel’s idea. “I hate to travel, but I hate it a little bit less now.”
Going on the show was Jordan’s idea. He has watched every episode of the show since it started.
“I was enamored with the premise of the show,” Jordan, a strategic consultant, says. “You get an opportunity to travel the world and the chance to win $1 million. Sign me up.”
So Jordan signed up, and Daniel agreed to be his teammate. In auditions, both were simply themselves.
“We’re the same people at all times,” Daniel, a financial consultant, says. “That’s the real us. Casting saw that.”
But even people who are themselves don’t get cast in reality shows. There has to be something more, which apparently the Pious brothers have got.
“We have similar personalities yet extremely different interests,” Jordan says. “That makes for an interesting dynamic. I like boys. He likes girls. But it goes beyond that. It creates an interesting relationship.”
hmm, what an unique name Shue, looks Chinese to me
Yeah it's unusual and Jordan's middle name is Solomon. At least they have normal first names, lol!
Evan, turns out Shue is not his middle name. Dan PM'd me on FB telling me it's Benjamin (thank god) and he says that Jordan calls him all kinds of names and Daniel Shue was one of them. I have since modified my birthday wish post on here with the proper name.
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Post by: Evan_Weinstein on February 28, 2010, 11:46:55 PM
hmm, what an unique name Shue, looks Chinese to me
Yeah it's unusual and Jordan's middle name is Solomon. At least they have normal first names, lol!
Evan, turns out Shue is not his middle name. Dan PM'd me on FB telling me it's Benjamin (thank god) and he says that Jordan calls him all kinds of names and Daniel Shue was one of them. I have since modified my birthday wish post on here with the proper name.
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Post by: heyhay28 on March 23, 2010, 08:24:36 PM
They made the Soup for their Episode Quote this Week "Cathy Drone"
These guys are growing on me. It's clear they're not grumpy or malicious, just doing their own thing and trying to survive in the race.
So, did you finally realize that they are, actually, malicious and underhanded? They just kept it hidden until the final episode.
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Post by: Sandra1991 on May 10, 2010, 01:27:03 PM
Congratulations, Dan and Jordan! They deserved to win! A dream came true ;)
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Post by: RealityFreakWill on May 10, 2010, 01:29:54 PM
I missed The Early Show this morning but did get to watch Dan and Jordan on Live with Regis and Kelly. They were funny. My question about the Early Show, did Jet and Cord and Caite (I know Brent was not at NYC) appear with Dan and Jordan or was it just the brothers getting their blown up check?
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 10, 2010, 01:30:57 PM
:bigwelcome to RFF Sandra!
Caite was not on TES, the Cowboys and Brothers were.
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Post by: RealityFreakWill on May 10, 2010, 01:41:12 PM
Thanks, Peach! And congrats on your 22 thousandth post! Can't wait to see your TARcon pictures! The ones you did from TAR15 was very good and I look forward to this season's pictures. I bet you had a blast.
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Post by: Dånooky on May 10, 2010, 04:00:12 PM
It sounds like lingering resentment between Jet and the Pious brothers to me, but the rodeo world isn't the most gay friendly atmosphere (and I live in a rodeo town), so it isn't too shocking to me to find out that Jet might have some homophobia. It is disappointing though. Too bad we're unlikely to hear more about this from an uninvolved 3rd party.
Plaidmoon
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Post by: redskevin88 on May 11, 2010, 06:30:27 AM
It sounds like lingering resentment between Jet and the Pious brothers to me, but the rodeo world isn't the most gay friendly atmosphere (and I live in a rodeo town), so it isn't too shocking to me to find out that Jet might have some homophobia. It is disappointing though. Too bad we're unlikely to hear more about this from an uninvolved 3rd party.
Plaidmoon
The cowboys also upset Carol & Brandy. I'm not surprised if they got they instead of Brent & Caite, they would have u-turned the cowboys (No point u-turning the detectives, u can easily beat them in a footrace). I'm 200% sure Dan & Jo would do the same thing.
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Post by: RealityFreakWill on May 11, 2010, 12:05:24 PM
Another great interview with People:
How Amazing Race Winners Went From First Class to First Place
After traveling 40,000 miles across 5 continents, Dan, 25, and Jordan Pious, 23, were the first of the final three teams to arrive at the finish line on the finale of The Amazing Race. The Barrington, R.I.-based brothers dished with PEOPLE about the brilliant moves that scored them the $1 million prize, the play they aren’t proud of and their quest to clear Caite’s name of Brandy and Carole’s accusations. –Carrie Bell
When you started in L.A., did you think you were going to win or were you surprised to the end? Jordan: I’d watched 15 seasons and I think it’s safe to say that the younger and more physically fit your team is, the better chances you have to win. At 23 and 25 and with my brother being as athletic as he is, we thought we had a good chance going into it. But at the end of the day, even though it’s a little cliché, every single one of those teams had an equal shot of winning.
Getting moved to first class mid-flight in order to exit the plane first is one of the best strategies ever seen on the Race. Dan: Amazingly, we were off the plane, through customs and into a taxi coming from a communist country in about three and a half minutes. We kept the lead throughout. While the cowboys physically caught up to us at Coit Tower, there was a mandatory 15-minute waiting period to get harnessed and do a safety thing. I was 80 percent done when they showed up. At the motion-capture thing, they were next to us but we were getting the clue when they were still on the first level. We ended up beating them by 25 minutes. Jordan: Daniel’s only now realizing how big of a move that was. In that clip, I had the biggest smile on my face because I knew how big of a coup that was. And to clarify, you can’t buy first-class tickets but there’s no rule that you can’t befriend a flight attendant and get upgraded for free. Dan: Special love to Karen from US Airways.
The other brilliant play was writing everything down in case of a final memory task. Dan: Jordan wrote the most meticulous, organized, neat, highlighted notes. You haven’t seen notes like this in a Harvard class. The challenge turned out to be fairly easy, but even if it’d been the hardest memory challenge in Race history, we had the notes to bang it out. Jordan: I studied on the plane because nine times out of 10, they have a memory challenge. I made sure I knew where all of the information was and I’d put the elimination order in a highlighted box. You have no idea how excited I was when I read that clue and realized taking notes paid off. Dan: We probably finished in 45 seconds.
What about the slimy airport line cut? Do you regret doing that, especially because it didn’t accomplish anything? Dan: We shouldn’t have done it. It had zero impact on the game and made us look bad. But at that point, you gotta make the big moves … Bottom line is that kind of stuff happens because it’s a game for a lot of money. In the heat of the moment, you have to try everything to git it done. Jordan: Because there was no benefit, I wish we hadn’t. But I stand by that choice because I wanted this more than anything. If only two teams had gotten on that plane, we’d be geniuses. Rich … geniuses!
Caite got a bad rap especially from former couple Carole and Brandy. Jordan, as the only other gay contestant on the show, is that a fair label? Jordan: Caite isn’t homophobic. We roomed together the last three nights and we became good friends. So let’s dispel that rumor right now. It would have been strategically more sound to u-turn the cowboys, but Caite had butted heads with Carole and Brandy from day one, they constantly fueled the fire and it was a no brainer when they picked them.
Plans for the money? Dan: Step one: Uncle Sam. Step two: save and invest.
Favorite place or moment? Jordan: Seychelles was paradise with a capital P — screensaver paradise. I would have never gone if it wasn’t for the Race. I didn’t know it existed. Dan: He stole my answer. But bungee-jumping, playing soccer and drinking beer in Germany on a Saturday night was cool.
Did it change you or your relationship? Jordan: It made me feel so fortunate to have a big brother and best friend like Dan. It was a big asset because we’d already had every argument under the sun. The edit and the fan reaction have shown us how special our relationship is.
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Post by: Dånooky on May 11, 2010, 01:35:56 PM
(http://i42.[banned image hosting site].com/20qnxo0.jpg) Truer words have never been said
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 11, 2010, 09:34:58 PM
The Amazing Race 16: Exclusive Interview with Winners Dan and Jordan Pious Posted on 05/11/2010 by Gina in The Amazing Race and Cast Interviews
by Lindsay Strouse and Gina Scarpa
The Amazing Race came to an exciting conclusion Sunday night, with brothers Dan and Jordan Pious crossing the finish line first to claim the million dollar prize. It was younger brother Jordan's dream to not only run, but win, The Amazing Race and with help from Dan, he was able to achieve it. Today, Dan and Jordan spoke to RealityWanted in an exclusive interview about their big win, the alliances they formed along the way, and the highs and lows of the race.
Q. Lindsay, RealityWanted: Dan, when Jordan asked you to be his teammate on The Amazing Race, were you on board right away or did it take a little convincing? A. Dan: In all seriousness, I needed a lot of convincing. Jordan tried to get me to do season 15 but I didn't want to. Then, he sent me a big long email begging me to do it which was really convincing and I decided to do it!
Q. Lindsay, RealityWanted: Jordan, do you think that being such a big fan of the show helped you and your brother along the way? A. Jordan: It's interesting. My knowledge of the race really helped us in preparing and helping our strategy. We did a lot of preparation mentally and strategically so we knew how to handle roadblocks and whatever else we had to face. Knowing the race and that there was probably going to be a memory challenge. I brought a notebook to take notes. I took notes on everything and that really helped.
Q. Lindsay, RealityWanted: The race can definitely take its toll on teams. Which leg was the most stressful for you? A. Dan: Probably the most stressful was the first night. I was very sick for the first leg so it was really tough to get through. The race is hard enough when your 100 percent. It becomes mentally draining so adding sickness on top of that can really take a toll on you. A. Jordan: The one that was most stressful for both was the last leg in China. The language barrier was very difficult and stressed us both out.
Q. Lindsay, RealityWanted: Some alliances were formed this season. Did you have anything set in stone with any of the teams? A. Dan: There was a lot of stuff that wasn't shown for alliances. It's not as much of a big thing as Survivor. At the end of the day, you're still going your opposite way. We worked with Mike and Louie and Monique and Shawne at the beginning of the race. We called it The East Coast Alliance! That wasn't really shown though. We started working with Brandy and Carol and then with Mike and Louie again. At the end of the day, everyone is lost and out of their element.
Q. Lindsay, RealityWanted: How do you feel about the way that Joe and Heidi and Carol and Brandy were eliminated, because of U-Turns? A. Dan: Brandy and Carol had their own personal issues and Katie decided to U-Turn them. Joe hurt his knee but then he when he was getting theVIP treatment on the bus and began talking about how he didn't see any of the teams as a real threat, he kind of rubbed teams the wrong way. He didn't think that was a big deal and ultimately both U-Turns were done for personal reasons. That's why we tried to be friendly with everyone.
Q. Lindsay, RealityWanted: Do you think that cutting in line at the airport in China, ahead of Jet and Cord, is one of the major reasons you won the race? A. Dan: The cut in line in no way, shape or form affected the outcome of the race. Brent and Caite were first in line. It had absolutely no affect. Our move to the front of the plane would have happened no matter where we were originally sitting on the plane.
Q. Lindsay, RealityWanted: What has it been like to watch yourselves on tv? A. Jordan: This has been so exciting. It's been exciting to watch. With each leg of the race I get to share that experience with my family and friends and tell them how unbelievable that place was. We got to relive these memories over again.
Q. Lindsay, RealityWanted: Have you given thought to what you want to do with the prize money? A. Dan: We are both in agreement that after paying Uncle Sam, we're going to put in for an investment. We're going to do the responsible thing-no houses or luxury cars.
Q. Lindsay, RealityWanted: What was the best part of being on The Amazing Race? What will you remember most? A. Dan: For me, I'm such a big sports fan and so when I realized we were going to Candlestick Park, home of the San Francisco 49ers, it was the coolest thing. To be on the 50 yard line of an NFL field for the end of the race was incredible. A. Jordan: I would second that. But also the best part of the race was when we went to Seychelles. It's seeing places like that that made me always want to do The Amazing Race. Being in a tropical paradise with my brother on the show made me quite happy.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 11, 2010, 09:46:05 PM
Interview With 'Amazing Race 16' Winners by Audrey Fine, posted May 10th 2010 6:30PM
At the outset of the 'Amazing Race 16,' brothers Dan and Jordan Pious were in it for one reason -- and it wasn't the $1 million. They wanted to realize Jordan's "lifelong dream" of being a contestant.
And boy did they ever. After logging 22 days on 5 continents, the final leg for the "bros" began with them sweet-talking their way into first class on a flight from Shanghai to San Francisco. Then, with a significant lead, the final few challenges saw Dan climbing to the top of the iconic Coit Tower, the pair guiding each other through a virtual 'Star Wars' world at Industrial Light & Magic and then making their way to Candlestick Park to be hailed the big winners by host Phil Keoghan and all of the eliminated contestants.
Does actually winning the 'Amazing Race' live up to expectations? Do these Rhode Island boys feel they played an honorable game? And what on Earth are they going to do with all that cash? Let's find out ...
TV Squad: Dan, you made no bones about hating to travel and looked overjoyed to find out that the final leg would be back in the States. Are you more or less of a travel fan now? Dan: I would say neither. I am as much of a non-travel fan now as I was six to eight months ago. Although, I do have to say that a two-hour flight down to Florida seems like nothing after what we clocked during the race.
TV Squad: You're also a notoriously picky eater. Was the food worse or better than you'd expected? Dan: It was pretty much what I expected. It was really bad in some places, better in others. I was really on a Snickers-only diet. Whenever I had an extra dollar to spend -- because we were on a super-tight budget -- I'd buy a Snickers. I'd seen the commercial, "Hungry? Buy a Snickers," and that's what I did.
TV Squad: We saw you struggle with composure a few times when cab drivers weren't getting you where you needed to be quickly enough. In real life, are you one of those people who's always on time? Dan: I'm definitely one of those people but that's not what was the problem was in that one [crazy] situation. We had called a translation service, told them where we needed to go and they told the guy in perfect Chinese where he was supposed to go. And he just didn't go there. So, it was a matter of a guy just messing up and with the race hanging in the balance, that gets incredibly frustrating.
TV Squad: Jordan, did you think for one second that Jet and Cord would actually get physical with you for having "cut" the line at Shanghai airport? Jordan: Yes. But I wasn't scared. Listen, here's the thing, at the end of the day it's a race for a million bucks. We laid low, we didn't piss anybody off for 11 legs of the race and then when the end was in sight we made our play. As I said on the show [last night], "Hate the game, don't hate the player."
TV Squad: You also said that if you won, you'd save the money to pay for your MBA. You're not going to splurge on anything? Jordan: I'm not going to splurge. The only "extravagant" thing I'll spend it on is going to Australia. I've always wanted to go and so in a few months I'll probably plan a trip. The rest I'll save and use it to pay for me to get my MBA in a couple of years.
TV Squad: You really seemed miserable during the noodle making challenge in China. Was it just the editing or were you really hating it? Jordan: I was more miserable than the editing showed! I was so baffled by how much I was struggling with it and before I knew it my hands were plastered with the flour and water and I couldn't make the noodles. I was worried that this would blow it, blow our chance to win. But then before I knew it, my brother was there with a hug and [calming] words and it was ok.
TV Squad: What happened to the motorbikes you won in Singapore? Jordan: We haven't gotten them yet, but when we do, we won't have them for long. We were not kidding at all when we said that our mother would kill us if we ever rode them. When we get them, we'll be gracious. But then there's eBay and Craigslist!
TV Squad: Which of the eleven teams was your favorite? Dan: Looking back, it was probably Steve and Allie [Smith] -- their father/daughter relationship reminds me of our family and how close we are. They are so close and would do anything for each other. Plus, he's just hilarious. I wish they'd shown more of what a funny guy he is.
TV Squad: Who was more obnoxious in real life than on TV? Dan: Joe [Wang]. He's incredibly obnoxious on the show -- and even more so in real life. And, it's funny because [his wife] Heidi is amazing. Total yin/yang.
TV Squad: At the end of his and Jet's race, Cord said, "In the end, having our character and integrity intact, we can walk out of here with our heads held high." Do you think that was intended as a slight towards you guys? Dan: I think that Jet and Cord think that they're high and mighty and they like to act like they're the good guys. Overall, we ran a really clean race. Jordan: Listen, I think you only make that comment if you need validation. It's a game. We're proud of the way we played regardless of Cord and Jet's opinion. Everyone runs their race a different way and all of our friends and family and fans are proud of how we played, and that's what matters to us.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 11, 2010, 10:01:03 PM
reposting this in it's entirety. I think itis important to show that the racers, in lter interviews in particular, are being somewhat censored by production in what they are and are not allowed to say.
Exclusive: Dan Pious and Jordan Pious talk 'The Amazing Race' win
By Reality TV World staff, 05/10/2010
Although they finished a distant third in The Amazing Race's penultimate sixteenth-season leg, Dan Pious and his brother Jordan Pious never stopped giving the competition their all, and that attitude paid off in the final leg.
Dan, a 24-year-old financial advisor from Barrington, RI, and Jordan, a 22-year-old strategic consultant who currently resides in Atlanta, GA, won The Amazing Race's sixteenth season during last night's finale broadcast of the CBS reality competition.
Dan and Jordan defeated Jet McCoy and his brother Cord McCoy -- who finished second and were better known as "the cowboys" -- and "dating models" Caite Upton and Brent Horne to claim the competition's million dollar prize.
On Monday, Dan and Jordan talked to Reality TV World about their The Amazing Race experience -- including why they were confident their third-place gap wouldn't be a hindrance in the final leg, what they thought their key winning move was, how they feel about Caite's feud with previously eliminated racers Carol Rosenfeld and Brandy Snow, and which racer they allege really "hates gays."
Reality TV World: You guys arrived at the Shanghai Pit Stop more than three hours behind Brent and Caite and almost three hours behind Jet and Cord.
Jordan Pious: That's right.
Reality TV World: So leaving there, did you think you still had much of a chance of winning at that point or did you figure the other teams were probably already boarding a pre-dawn flight?
Dan Pious: When we left it was about 6AM so almost all airports don't open until then at all. But one major consistency throughout the Race was that the flights really bunched everyone together, even if you finished in first place.
When we finished in first place in Singapore, we left a couple of hours, because of the Fast Forward, ahead of someone but our flight wasn't for six hours at that until everyone had left the Pit Stop and got on the flight.
Jordan Pious: It's part of the Race.
Dan Pious: It was interesting I felt like this season -- and Jordan can probably speak to this a little more -- but this season kept people bunched up flight-wise most of the time.
Reality TV World: Except for Europe... (laughs)
Jordan Pious: Right, except for Europe.
Dan Pious: Right, exactly. It's funny you should mention that, that was the one time -- the one flight from South America to Europe -- that was the one time you had to make a flight decision. Aside from that, everyone was actually on the same exact flights.
Jordan Pious: And then those legs in Europe, which you may have been alluding to as well.
Reality TV World: Yeah, I was talking about [those European legs] where [dating former Big Brother houseguests Jeff Schroeder and Jordan Lloyd] were never had a chance to get [bunched back up] basically.
Jordan Pious: Oh yeah, and those legs in Europe, ["Detectives" Michael Naylor and Louis Stravato] came in first each time because where you started off had a big effect on where you finished. Really when you eliminate those big transportation -- those big flights or big [train rides] or whatever -- you do tend to have [prior] placement have more of an effect on [the next leg].
Reality TV World: The Race seemed pretty close at the end. Do you guys have any idea about how far ahead of Jet and Cord you got to the finish line?
Dan Pious: We were ahead of them by about 25 minutes. Maybe just a little bit more, but about 25 minutes.
Reality TV World: So not that close at all then.
Dan Pious: No, it really wasn't.
Reality TV World: I know you guys had figured it was probably going to be a memory challenge at the end of the Race, but were you surprised how simple it ended up being?
Jordan Pious: Yeah, it's interesting because I think we had that question before. I watched The Amazing Race for 15 seasons and I knew that I was going to be taking really, really good notes because if we're in the final leg there's going to be a memory challenge more than likely.
And I think that it was definitely much easier than any memory challenge that I had seen before, but when you take a look at the leg and how taxing it was -- with climbing Coit Tower and then with the virtual world challenge and then lugging around that trunk 20 blocks in downtown San Francisco -- I mean it was definitely a long leg and so it kind of made sense to us that it was a pretty quick final piece before you could get to the finish line.
Reality TV World: Given you never fell out of first place after that, how big of a role do you think the fact that you guys were able to move up to first class and be the first ones off the plane [in San Francisco] played in your win?
Jordan Pious: There was a flight attendant that really took a liking to my brother and he milked it for all it was worth, and that's what you've got to do in the final leg of The Amazing Race. I mean at the end of the day, that fifteen minute lead that we had getting off the plane, we never lost that.
I mean we were in first throughout the final leg and you know, we sat in first class for the last 30 minutes because that flight attendant let us move up to first class. We were the very first people off the plane and we really never looked back.
Reality TV World: So I just want to be clear, even though the rules don't let you buy first class seats, there aren't any restrictions about what you do once your on the plane, right?
Jordan Pious: No, in fact you can have first class tickets if you pay the economy price, or the coach price.
Dan Pious: Right, you can't pay to get an upgrade but if the airline's willing to give you an upgrade -- and that never happened -- but what you're saying and what we did is 100% right. If you're anywhere on the plane, you can move anywhere else on the plane if the flight attendants will let you.
Reality TV World: Given that move seemed so crucial, do you think we might see more of that [from other racers] in the Race going forward?
Jordan Pious: Yeah, to be honest I think teams in the past seasons have looked for those opportunities, and it's hard to capitalize on those opportunities. But my brother did a phenomenal job with capitalizing on a good relationship that he had with that flight attendant and realizing that there were some seats in first class that were open for us to move up to.
So I'm sure other teams have tried to make moves like that but I will say it's hard to get a lead like that and we were fortunate enough to have my brother have that type of relationship with the flight attendant.
Reality TV World: Jordan, after you found out you were going to San Francisco you made a comment about the city "is a very gay friendly place." Was there any particular reason you mentioned that -- had you had some problems in "unfriendly" places earlier in the Race?
Jordan Pious: No, you know what I think it was, I think we were in China and there was such a language barrier and the locals there really weren't helping us really in any way in that leg. And so when we opened up the clue and we saw San Francisco, I was like, "Great, not only is it on U.S. territory but it's also a gay-friendly place so if we see people on the side of the street then they're maybe going to be more prone to help us."
You know listen, there are certain teams here who have, you know, different opinions on homosexuality and what not and I think they've been voiced throughout the season and all that. And I think it was just a very comforting thing to see that we were going to a city that I knew was very accepting of that and that it wouldn't be a hindrance to our final leg.
Reality TV World: What happened during the backpack incident at the airport? I mean Dan, you seemed to admit it was kind of a "dirty" move afterward but and it didn't seem like the kind of move that was going to make any difference in the Race unless you guys really thought there might only be two sets of seats on that flight so...
Dan Pious: Could you repeat the question? You said something about I said it was a dirty move afterwards, I just want to understand you.
Reality TV World: Well that's what I said. What I said was you seemed to admit afterwards that it was kind of a dirty move or considered it kind of a dirty move. I thought that [was a direct quote from last night's episode], no?
Dan Pious: When was that on? I must have missed that part.
Reality TV World: Okay, you're saying you didn't feel it was a dirty move, I guess?
Dan Pious: No listen, I'll answer your question first.
Reality TV World: Okay.
Dan Pious: It made obviously no difference whatsoever, so that's the important thing When it's all said and done, if Jet and Cord were sitting right next to us -- Jet would probably be sitting away from Jordan -- but I think it would be made very clear that it had obviously zero impact.
Funny enough, the three teams sat in three rows consecutively in the very back of the plane [and] all middle seats. And Brent and Caite, who actually were first in line, actually for some reason had the third row all the way closest to the back.
And just so you know, we were forced to take that plane from Shanghai. There was actually another plane from Shanghai that all of us could have gotten on but we were required to take a certain flight, and the actual seats on that flight had absolutely no impact. What did have an impact was moving up to first class, which would have happened regardless of where we sat in the plane. Jordan Pious: Right, and I just want to add that I wasn't intending that move to be malicious or nasty in any way. And I actually put my bag down and sat next to Caite and talked to her and was hanging out with her. And you know, next thing you know, the ticket counter opened up...
Dan Pious: Yeah...
Jordan Pious: And I stood up and then I think it was just kind of we all knew we were getting on the same flight, we all knew we were getting on the same area of the plane and that seats didn't really have an impact, and so I didn't see it as a big deal and I certainly...
Dan Pious: And I think it's important to note, you can go and look at us cutting as being a dirty move but I think you can probably say the same for Cord coming in and trying to distract me and just talking aimlessly when I was trying to direct Jordan on the virtual reality thing or whatever.
You know, at the end of the day it's a Race for a million dollars and when you're that close you're playing to win the game. I think some people will say "play with dignity" and other people say "win at all costs" and some people sit on the fence.
But we made moves and they made moves and at the end of the day, our moves impacted them zero percent and their moves, well it got to us a little more than that, but still made no difference. I mean that's fair enough, right?
Reality TV World: Dan, I think you're misunderstanding. I was just quoting what I thought you had said on the episode last night. I wasn't calling it a dirty move myself.
Dan Pious: No, no, no. You know what it is, we've been getting the question a lot, so I keep kind of blending it together, you know what I mean? And it's an important point and I think it's an interesting aspect.
Reality TV World: No, I understand that, but we only have I think about five more minutes so I have some other things I'd like to get to if we could.
Dan Pious: Sure.
Reality TV World: When you two were at Lucasfilm, you had that other kind of little incident where it looked like Jet and Cord had a chance to catch up and maybe even pass you guys but Jet seemed kind of passive and waited for Jordan to be done before moving forward in the virtual room. Were you surprised they weren't more aggressive?
Jordan Pious: [Unintelligible] touch us
Dan Pious: Yeah, I mean I think Jet wants to stay as far away from Jordan as possible, but really what I thought was interesting about that particular aspect was that Jet had seen Jordan spinning so we could read the clue on the computer screen and yet when it was their time to read the clue they sat there for what looked like several minutes totally confused on how to read the clue and Jet didn't spin or anything.
I was surprised because, who knows, maybe they could have really made up some time there. I was surprised to see them not start spinning to read the clue so that Cord could see it on the screen slower.
Jordan Pious: Yeah, they must have realized that I wasn't spinning for no reason.
Reality TV World: That's a couple of different times now in this interview that you guys have mentioned Jet apparently having some problem with Jordan. We really didn't see much of that on the show, can you elaborate on that a little bit?
CBS publicist: Let's talk about their strategic play on the show.
Dan Pious: Jet hates gays, yeah.
Jordan Pious: I mean, but he made comments about Carol and Brandy on the show.
Dan Pious: Yeah, Jet called Jordan a "fag" Saturday night for absolutely no reason and Jordan just said hello to him, so there was something on the Race and I guess, in all fairness, there's some stuff that isn't shown and I think it's an important thing to get out.
Because I don't think there's any doubt that certain things happened and it all plays a part in everyone's reaction. I don't remember exactly what was said on this past episode, but when Jordan was walking away from the counter I believe Jet said something to Jordan.
I'm totally drawing a blank now, but he said something. I'll have to watch the episode again, because I've only seen it once because I'm in New York.
So listen, I think there's some animosity but it really goes one-way. But we'll focus on the positive.
Reality TV World: Okay, well I guess let's focus on [the animosity] we definitely did see on TV, which was Caite's dislike of Carol and Brandy. Jordan, when you guys were on the bus with them, you seemed to think that dislike was possibly just because they were gay.
Jordan Pious: No, yeah, I'm definitely glad you're giving me the opportunity to clarify this. I did not hear what Caite said and you can see I said, "Do you mean you U-Turned them because they are lesbians?" It was a question, because I didn't hear what Caite said.
I will tell you because Caite -- I mean I was just rooming with her in New York. She definitely is not homophobic. I mean she loves me, and if she was homophobic then she wouldn't like me and she wouldn't spend time with me and she wouldn't be a friend of mine, but she is.
I think it was just a matter of not hearing what she said and you know what, it was a personal issue between Carol and Brandy and Caite and it kind of bubbled up and came to the surface at the finale at the finish line. And it was I guess kind of their time to get it out there, and it is what it is.
Reality TV World: I thought we had a couple of more minutes but I've been told we're out of time, so can you tell me how you were cast on the Race? I know Jordan was obviously the one that had been pushing for it, but how did it come about?
Jordan Pious: I sent in an audition video with my brother -- I tried to get him to do a video with me for [Season] 15 but I had to do about another six months of convincing.
Dan Pious: (laughs)
Jordan Pious: I finally got him to do an audition video with me and we applied just like anybody else.
Dan Pious: And I'm glad I did!
Jordan Pious: Yes. It was just a great experience. Yeah, we applied just like anybody else, got a call, went to the semifinals and then the finals and the rest is history, I guess.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: georgiapeach on May 11, 2010, 10:32:36 PM
Amazing Race's Daniel and Jordan: First-Class Move "Made All the Difference in the World" May 10, 2010 05:18 PM ET by Joyce Eng
It became a battle of the brothers at the end of The Amazing Race 16, with the Rhode Island-bred Daniel, 25, and Jordan Pious, 23, edging out cowboys Jet and Cord for the $1 million — without any advantage from cutting in line at the airport. "We were in the same exact plane at the same exact time, all middle seats in three consecutive rows. Caite and Brent, who were first to get tickets, were in the row furthest from the front," Dan tells TVGuide.com. "If people want to be up-in-arms about cutting, I can understand that, but don't think that it affected the Race. ... And Cord did a good job of getting revenge and distracting me at the virtual challenge, so I guess we're even." It was, rather, the move up to first class that ensured the Piouses a lead that they never relinquished. So how did they smooth-talk their way up front?
TVGuide.com: What was your tactic behind cutting the cowboys? Jordan: We had not done one single thing on the entire Race to piss off another team. We were not that team. But fans have to understand that it's the final leg. You have a one in three chance of winning $1 million. At the end of the day, it's a game, so you have to make moves. That move didn't make a difference and we kind of knew that. I was just hanging out with Caite, so that was where I was in line. But it kind of riled us up and got us excited to put the pedal to the metal in the final leg.
TVGuide.com: The game-changer was when you, Dan, coaxed the flight attendant to move you to first class. What did you say to her? Dan: Aw, man! What I said is a little X-rated. [Laughs] No, I'm joking! She was a really sweet girl and we hit it off. Personalities clicked and the wedding's next week! No, no. She was really enthralled by the cameras and was willing to help us out, and it made all the difference in the world. That put us ahead. We cut it close [the last two legs] — certainly not as close as it looked, but it was close. We were lucky to be able to survive, and that was our strategy the whole race: just survive. It doesn't matter what place we're in, just don't be last, and then on the last leg, get first.
TVGuide.com: Did it really take you that long to find a cab after the memory task? Dan: It was literally three minutes, but they made it seem a lot longer. We knew we had a solid lead. We ended up beating the cowboys by about 25 minutes. They weren't even close to the memory challenge when we left. ... We told the cab driver, "We'll give you $100. Just get us to Candlestick Park." I think the rate was $20, and he's like, "Wait, are you really going to give me $100?" I said, "I gave you my word." At that point, we had, like, $400 saved up. Jordan: We're also very stingy! I wouldn't let Daniel, like, eat. You never know when you need your cash, so I wanted to make sure we had enough to handle whatever came our way. But you can kind of tell that we were not too stressed. At one point, I'm like, "Daniel, this is it!" It was an exciting moment, not because I was panicking. They showed every single second of the three minutes that we looked for a cab.
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TVGuide.com: The cowboys caught up to you at almost every task. Were you worried about them overtaking your lead? Dan: We're always worried about them, but even though they caught up physically, at Coit Tower, there was a mandatory 15-minute wait. You had to go over safety and get harnessed, so I was about 80 percent done with my ascension as they were arriving, so they had to wait 15 minutes. At the virtual tour, we were getting our final clue [at the second goal] and they were just starting the first goal. While they were physically next to us, we were always still ahead.
TVGuide.com: Jordan, this was your dream. What was going through your mind when you realized you won? Jordan: From watching the show for 15 seasons, I knew when I came out of that helmet, you look at Phil and ask "Are there any teams next to him?" The answer was no, then it's like "Holy crap! You're the Amazing Race 16 winners and you just won $1 million." Between the end of that helmet and probably the 20-yard line, I blacked out and don't remember anything. I was living my dream and trying to enjoy it, but was so overwhelmed by emotion and excitement. ... I was literally having an out-of-body experience.
TVGuide.com: Dan, some fans think you weren't into the Race because you did it for Jordan and hate traveling. What have you gotten out of it besides $1 million? Dan: My brother's dream is achieved, and I saw things in the world that I've never seen. When we were leaving the Seychelles at night ... we saw the Milky Way galaxy. You see shooting stars every four-to-five minutes. It was the most beautiful thing ever. ... I certainly did my share of complaining on the Race, but when there was a challenge, you'd be hard-pressed to find someone more focused on getting the job done. ... It was a great opportunity to be on The Amazing Race. I've never said otherwise. I'll admit I wasn't a gigantic fan going into it, but I think the die-hard fans will be glad to know that there is one more die-hard fan in myself now that I've done it. Jordan: People are questioning whether Daniel was really invested in this. There is a reason I chose him. I knew he was going to take this Race seriously and do everything he could to win and to make my dream come true in every way. He is the most competitive person I know. If that [last] cab ride isn't an indication of how committed he is, then quite frankly, I don't know what is.
TVGuide.com: In the online extras, there are videos that reference Joe making negative comments to Jordan. Jordan: Joe made some negative comments toward me, but I've got to be honest, Joe made some nasty comments to a lot of teams. He's a very abrasive and confrontational individual who would find any excuse to almost put somebody down. At the airport in Argentina ... I was having a really rough day. I was emotional and crying — I mean, gosh, I'm sure we saw that a couple of times! Joe comes up to me and goes, "You done crying?" He just has a way with words and really puts his nose where it doesn't belong. Dan: He had a problem with Jordan, he had a problem with Mike and Louie, he had a problem with Jeff. I don't know if you've seen the Elimination Station videos ... but it's like The Joe Show. He called his wife — who is a gorgeous, smart, amazing woman — a "PTA mom." He did it twice! He actually called his wife that, which is the most absurd thing.
TVGuide.com: What are you going to do with the $1 million? Dan: We're going to give some to Uncle Sam and we'll put the rest in the bank and save it, invest it.
TVGuide.com: And you're not going to ride your motorcycles? Dan: [Laughs] There's no chance! We were not lying about that. We will never, never — I'll get on it once and snap a picture, but that's it. If you know anyone who's in the market for a motorbike, we have two for sale.
TVGuide.com: After your champagne glass-stacking prowess in France, has anyone contacted you for bar or bat mitzvahs? Jordan: [Laughs] I think every Jewish person that we know in this world told us that they were laughing their asses off when we referenced that. Dan: We've had no calls. I think Jordan's comment about us being very expensive may have turned some people away. Jordan: You said "expensive" and I said, "very expensive." Dan: OK, I'm forgetting. But we've had no requests at this point, but if you know anyone, send them our way!
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: RealityFreakWill on May 12, 2010, 02:32:28 AM
First of all, thanks Peach for posting articles....you saved me from the trouble!
Here's another one....
The Amazing Race: A First Class Finish with Dan and Jordan
Although The Amazing Race brother team of Dan and Jordan Pious were in the thick of competition during the entire season of The Amazing Race 16, Dan and Jordan still had to catch the Cowboy team of Jet and Cord. In the final leg of The Amazing Race 16, Dan and Jordan stepped up their Amazing Race game by beating both the Cowboys and Brent and Caite out of the plane in San Francisco and into a cab to take the lead in the Amazing Race quest to win the million dollars.
Despite being Amazing Race underdogs to the heavily favored cowboys, Dan and Jordan took command of the race and never let go, as Dan quickly guided Jordan through a video game maze at the famous George Lucas owned ILM (Industrial Light and Magic). Although the Cowboys were hot on the heels of Dan and Jordan while Brent and Caite had to backtrack in third, Dan and Jordan crossed The Amazing Race finish line in first to not only become winners of The Amazing Race 16 but also to land the million dollar prize.
When we caught up with Dan and Jordan the very next morning, the guys were still reeling from their Amazing victory.
THE DEADBOLT: So now that you've won, I hear you guys are starting your own cab company.
DAN PIOUS: Oh, you heard about that. Yeah, "angry cab drivers.com" [laughs].
THE DEADBOLT: Prior to the last leg, did you guys know or plan that you had to be more aggressive to beat the cowboys?
[The Amazing Race] DAN: We definitely planned that we were going to be more aggressive on the final leg. In our season there were two U-turns, and those U-turns resulted in eliminations in those legs for those teams, so we were very weary of getting on people's bad sides. In the final leg, with the game on the line, we definitely wanted to step up our game. But it was just as much to beat Brent and Caite as it was the cowboys, because any one of the final three - and really the final five or six teams for that matter - could've easily won The Amazing Race.
THE DEADBOLT: How did you guys get into First Class without the other teams seeing you?
JORDAN PIOUS: Daniel worked his magic. There was a flight attendant who took a liking to Daniel and he really capitalized on that. I think that she saw the cameras, and got excited to maybe have an opportunity to help someone out. Daniel was really, really sweet to her and they had some good conversation. With thirty minutes to go in the flight, they said we can move you up and you can just sit in First Class for landing so that you can be the first ones out of the plane. Sure enough, those doors opened and Daniel and I were one and two off that plane and sprinting through customs and trying to get a decent lead for the final leg of The Amazing Race.
THE DEADBOLT: How did you feel about how Carol and Brandy handled the tiara issue? Jordan, you initially told them about it, didn't you?
[The Amazing Race] JORDAN: Yes. Well, okay, so I initially told them who Caite was, but in my opinion I simply reiterated what Caite had said in her YouTube clip. I love Caite and I'm actually good friends with her now. Basically, I told them about the clip, they realized it, and then they made a comment apparently about the tiara. But they had some issue ...
DAN: It was Mike and Louis who brought the tiara comment up to Caite.
THE DEADBOLT: How do feel about how it got so out of hand?
DAN: I mean, it's all right. We're trying to focus on the positive. It's unfortunate, but everything is all settled now. I think everyone is pretty much over it. If they're willing to move on, so are we.
THE DEADBOLT: What was the deal with the peach comment at the end? Why was she so bitter about that?
JORDAN: Well, basically, for some reason I called Caite "peach" on the race, because she looked like a little peach. She's from South Carolina and I'm living in Atlanta now and they both have peaches. Anyway, I said that and Brandy gave me this look like, "why are you cheering for her?"
DAN: Because we were friends with Brandy and Carol, Brandy was just like, "why are you being nice to Caite?"
JORDAN: Yeah. So I said, "this is my little peach." Basically, we liked all of the other teams and we didn't want to create any problems. No big deal.
THE DEADBOLT: So what was it like after the race and after her comment? Was everybody cool?
[The Amazing Race] DAN: Oh yeah, everyone was great. We were all focusing on the good stuff.
THE DEADBOLT: Is there one thing you wish we saw that didn't get aired?
JORDAN: Gosh. I'm going to give you the official award for best question of the day. [laughs] I wasn't prepared for that one. Can we get a few seconds to think?
THE DEADBOLT: Sure. Any moment at all that didn't make it to air.
JORDAN: This is kind of a little bit for selfish reasons: But considering the edit in the second Shanghai episode when Daniel was really frustrated with that cab driver, I wished they had included the part where we specifically had our cab driver on the phone with the translation service who explained to him in full, in Chinese, not only where we were going and how to get there, but also that he had to follow the cab in front of him, including the license plate number of the cab in front of him - again, all in Chinese.
I wished they had shown that part because then people would've realized that my brother didn't have a problem with him not understanding English but had a problem with him not listening and understanding his own native language, Chinese.
THE DEADBOLT: Well, that's interesting. Louis told me last week that he had a problem because he thinks you guys didn't call the translation service.
[The Amazing Race] DAN: We were with Mike and Louis, we called them together. It was actually the four of us calling together.
JORDAN: Oh, I think what he was referencing was in the two hours that we had spent prior to meeting up with them. We had not called the translation service at that point. He was under the impression that we had done that when, in fact, we had not done that.
THE DEADBOLT: So how is the win going to change your lives?
DAN: Well, it's changing it on days like today where we're doing interviews and we're on Regis and Kelly and all that kind of fun stuff. For a little while here, it'll be a little crazy and fun and all that good stuff. Certainly for two young guys to have this kind of money at this stage is really great thing to start as a foundation in life, but Jordan is going to continue his job and hopefully I can get a job with Boston Sports, which is a dream of mine, and we can go on. But for the big picture, things will all remain the same. We consider ourselves normal guys, so hopefully we'll be able to get back to that.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: RealityFreakWill on May 13, 2010, 12:48:20 AM
Video interview
credit to tvguidemagazine
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: georgiapeach on May 13, 2010, 01:08:08 AM
Excellent Interview !
Interview with "Amazing Race" winners Dan & Jordan Pious by Michael Jensen, Editor May 12, 2010 Daniel and Jordan Pious
Twenty-two-years old might seem awfully young to make a dream of a lifetime come true, but on Sunday's season finale of CBS' The Amazing Race that's exactly what Jordan Pious managed to do. When the Emmy Award-winning show kicked off its 16th season last February, Jordan immediately fulfilled part of his dream not just by competing on the show, but by doing so so with his older brother Daniel. With each subsequent leg of the racing taking Daniel and Jordan through countries including Chile, Argentina, Germany and Seychelles, the two Rhode Island natives played a solid, clean game that kept them out of the bottom for most of the race.
While the extraordinarily close brothers only managed two first place finishes the entire season, the second came when it mattered most — the final leg of the race which concluded in San Francisco. By finishing first and winning the million dollar prize, Jordan's Amazing Race dreams were actually exceeded as the week before he'd expressed how happy he was just to have made the final three.
While the race can be extraordinarily taxing both emotionally and physically, the two brothers managed to weather most every challenge thrown at them and to do so without losing their cool or turning on each other. Dan especially personified that grace under pressure during the second to last episode when a Chinese taxi cab driver seemed to willfully hinder their progress and nearly caused them to be eliminated.
AfterElton.com chatted with the siblings two days after their win to discuss their close relationship, Dan's reaction to Jordan's coming out to him and much more. One topic we did not discuss, however, were reports that Jet called Jordan "a fag" and "hates gays." I attempted to ask the question but was told by a CBS publicist that the interview was only about the race.
AfterElton.com: First of all, congratulations. That last leg was absolutely amazing. Dan, at the start of the race, it seemed as if you were doing Jordan a huge favor in making his dream come true. Now that you've come out of this with half a million dollars, I'm wondering if maybe Jordan did you the favor. How much did your opinion of the race change from start to finish? Dan Pious: Well, you know, for me, at the beginning — or really throughout — I just wanted to make Jordan's dream come true. Really, the greatest point was when we reached the final three and Jordan got emotional on the mat. You could tell he'd realized he was going to be able to run the whole Amazing Race. That was a great moment for me.
Really throughout, I think I adjusted to the race a little more. I think people might have mistaken my relaxed mentality at the beginning as not caring as much, where in reality I was just trying to keep gas in the tank. I think it's important in The Amazing Race to take it easy towards the beginning, not to wear yourself out, and then when it all comes down to it, really put the pedal to the metal in the final legs.
AE: When we interviewed Jordan back before the race began, he promised you were a really competitive guy, and toward the end, we really saw that kick in. I felt so bad for you in the second to last episode when I thought you were going to murder that taxi cab driver who was completely fouling things up for you guys. You could see how competitive you were but I was impressed how much you restrained yourself and didn't actually go after him. Dan: I appreciate that. That's very sweet. The frustrating part about that particular incident is that we had used the translation service that you can call up for taxi drivers and he was told specifically what to do in Chinese. It kind of made it look on TV like I was pissed at him because he didn't know English. Of course, I don't know any Chinese; I wouldn't expect him to know English.
But yes, I am very competitive. I want to win and do well at everything I do in life. The Race was no different.
AE: After you won and people were commenting on the CBS website, I started to get a little nervous about doing this interview, because you guys are obviously so ruthless and lacking in integrity. I was worried you guys might swindle me out of everything I own. Jordan Pious: [laughing] Well, yeah. We are vicious cheaters. Moving up to first class, how dare we use such good strategy?
AE: In all seriousness, how frustrated are you by those comments, that thread that you guys cheated to win? Jordan: I think when we read the first few articles, we were frustrated by them, and a little hurt, because we don't want things to take away from this moment and this experience. We don't want the focus to be on the negative rather than completing the race like we did. With that said, I think with some of the press releases and answers that CBS and The Amazing Race has given, the people that have inquired about the rules, that may help remedy the situation so people can understand that we did not break the rules or cheat in any way.
[A CBS publicist confirmed that in no way did the brothers cheat by moving up to first class.]
AE: I don't know if you read any of the comments on those articles or on the TAR boards, but some of them were laced with a surprising amount of homophobia. Does that surprise you at all? Jordan: Obviously, I was hurt by that as well. I think a lot of the comments that we're seeing are from some pretty devout cowboy fans who were really rooting for the cowboys throughout the season, and quite frankly were probably really bummed when the cowboys didn't come out on top and have found different ways to express how they're upset with the outcome. Everyone has different favorites.
I wish they could share their opinion and viewpoints without getting sexuality involved in their opinions. Dan: I think a difference in culture is something to really look at too. By no means is any of it right. It's very wrong. Everyone knows clearly where I stand on the gay/homosexual subject, but the cowboys come from a certain area, and their fans might come from a certain area that may be less accepting of the homosexual lifestyle, and however sad that may be for some of it, it's also a reality.
AE: Dan, what exactly did you do to charm your way into first class? How long did it take? Dan: It took several hours on a 13 hour transpacific flight. I probably talked to Karen for about six hours or so. You build a relationship with someone over a time period like that. We really hit it off. Our personalities just clicked and she wanted to help out a new friend. She did that in a huge way.
AE: Not to accuse you of being Machiavellian or ruthless, but when you started talking to her, was that the goal in mind? To get in first class? Dan: To be honest, I think I was always looking for an opportunity to help us in the race, but I can't sleep on planes, as is well-documented. I was just looking for someone to talk to. Jordan was sleeping, and I just wanted to talk to people. A lot of people were sleeping, and Karen was just walking around, so it was more of a friend to talk to than anything else. It led to the ultimate moving up to first class, which was good, and she gave me some extra mashed potatoes, so she fed me well too.
AE: I hope if she ever has a layover in Barrington you'll take her out for a nice dinner. Dan: We spoke to her last night, and I told her, if you ever come to the area, dinner is on me times a million.
AE: You mentioned the cowboys, and they were actually fan favorites on our site. Before the race ended, a lot of people were saying they would have been happy if either you or they had won. I also thought they were great, but then I read an interview last night where you, Daniel, talked about Jet, and you were saying that Jet seemed to have a problem with Jordan. At one point, you even said he "hates gays" and used the word "fag." How much of that went on? Editor's note: CBS asked Dan and Jordan to not answer the question preferring that the interview stay "positive" and be about the race..
AE: One of the things I really liked about this season was getting to see some relationships we don't usually see. You guys and Jet and Cord both had these great sibling relationships. Dan: My brother and I have an incredibly close bond. I love him more than anything, and I will protect him and be his best friend for all of our lives. It's always been that way. As long as I can remember, he was my little buddy who I played little games with and ran around the house and grew up and all of that.
As far as being emotional and hugging and all that, we come from a very loving family. My little brother is my best friend and I will love him forever. It was just amazing. We were doing an incredible thing together, and we loved each other throughout.
AE: Daniel, I know Jordan came out to you when he was 14, which means you would have been 16, and he said you were immediately accepting. Was it hard for you at all? Was it a surprise? Dan: Like I said before, we're best friends, and I know him better than anyone. To be completely honest with you, I knew he was gay and it never mattered at all. He's still my brother a hundred percent. And really, who cares whether you like guys or girls? He's my friend and friends love each other unconditionally. And more than that, he's my brother, he's my blood, and I knew it and I accepted it 100%. Really, honestly, what difference does it make? The answer is none. He's just a guy.
AE: Caite really did change her image during the show, but I'm not sure she changed in the way she meant to. In the last episode, I lost track of how many times she said she was going to punch Brent in the face. Jordan, I know you've become friends with her. Is she like what we saw on the Race? She came across pretty harsh during most of it. Jordan: It's an interesting question, and I have to say that now that we've been contestants and we've participated in The Amazing Race, I think it's easy to pass judgment when you're sitting on your couch watching, but when you're running the Race and you're competitive, and there's a million dollars at the end of the Race, sometimes you say and do things you wouldn't normally say and do.
I know for myself, in retrospect, if I could do it all over again, I probably wouldn't cut the cowboys in line, because it didn't help us in any way, it had zero effect on the outcome of the race, and some people saw that as kind of a dirty move. I certainly wouldn't want that to be a display of my character, and I think the same goes for Caite. I think it was the final leg of the race, they were in last, they kind of got unlucky with their cabdriver, and it gets very frustrating. Emotions get involved and we're all competitive and wanted to win. She's a good person. All the other teams are good people deep down. Sometimes, the game just gets the best of you.
AE: What was the hardest challenge for each of you? Jordan: The scariest challenge for me was the Singapore flyer, hands down. I have a fear of heights and then having to deal with that right away ... but the hardest challenge would have to be the pasta making in Shanghai. It was a combination of dealing with my nerves: it was down to four teams, and the other three teams had left and I was still there. It was freezing cold. My hands were basically plastered with this combination of flour and water, and I felt the pressure there.It was really challenging for me to overcome my nerves and finish that task. Dan: For me, no doubt in my mind, the first challenge in Chile, the wire cross. It wasn't so much the task as I was incredibly, incredibly sick. It turns out I had strep throat, which was diagnosed after that episode, after that leg, I should say. It was really tough. I was dehydrated, and my throat was in rough shape. It was, by far, the toughest.
AE: What was the most surprising thing about the race for each of you? Dan: I was really unable to sleep on planes. I figured if I was really tired and worn out from the Race I'd be able to go and sleep on the plane, but I wasn't. A large percentage of your sleep time needs to occur on planes, which was probably the surprising thing for me, and it didn't happen for me. Jordan: I'd say the most surprising aspect of the Race for me was how difficult it was. For fifteen seasons I've been sitting on the couch yelling at the TV. "Why did you choose that detour? Get out of the cab! Turn left! Look behind you!"
It's a lot harder than it looks on TV. It's easy to pass judgment from home, but when you're running the Race and you're dealing with the elements, you're in different countries, people who don't speak your language, it gets a lot harder. It's a difficult race. It was a testing experience for us, for sure.
AE: Jordan, given that running the Race was your dream, what does it mean to have actually run it and won? Jordan: It's an interesting question because there was a comment in the finale that maybe Daniel and I were in it for the money, and I actually kind of laughed that off a little bit, because I think I made it abundantly clear from the beginning that the reason for doing this was the experience and running the Race, because I am such a big fan. It was such a distant dream of mine to be on The Amazing Race, it was an even more distant dream to finish the Race and actually cross that finish line.
To say it was a pipe dream would be an understatement to win The Amazing Race, and with my brother, who I thought I could never convince to actually do this with me, and yet all of those things happened. I am completely on Cloud 9 right now. I'm the luckiest person in the world to have a brother like Daniel who supports me, and accepts me for who I am, and loves me unconditionally, to have had this experience and be walking away with a million dollars ... this is quite the ride, and I, quite frankly, can't stop smiling.
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Post by: RealityFreakWill on May 13, 2010, 01:41:22 AM
Thanks, Peach for posting that excellent interview, I think that one was the best one so far, more informative and it almost brought me to tears! I love those boys to death! Dan sent me a very nice PM on FB today thanking me for my undying support the whole season!
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: georgiapeach on May 13, 2010, 06:49:07 AM
FoxProvidence, the RI boys!
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: RealityFreakWill on May 15, 2010, 09:42:58 AM
Jordan need our votes....please vote for him, he's currently in 2nd place and catching up....
It would be great if Dan & Jordan came here, to RFF!
I know for a fact they do lurk here. Next time I write to them, I'll ask them to sign up here so we can interact with them.
And BTW, I'm getting an autographed picture from them and I'm so excited. I'm gonna frame it and set it next to the one I got from Sam and Dan! My four favorite TAR boys! :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: David on May 16, 2010, 01:07:18 PM
It would be great if Dan & Jordan came here, to RFF!
I know for a fact they do lurk here. Next time I write to them, I'll ask them to sign up here so we can interact with them.
And BTW, I'm getting an autographed picture from them and I'm so excited. I'm gonna frame it and set it next to the one I got from Sam and Dan! My four favorite TAR boys! :yess:
I'm not the fifth favorite TAR boy? :-p
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: RealityFreakWill on May 16, 2010, 03:22:25 PM
It would be great if Dan & Jordan came here, to RFF!
I know for a fact they do lurk here. Next time I write to them, I'll ask them to sign up here so we can interact with them.
And BTW, I'm getting an autographed picture from them and I'm so excited. I'm gonna frame it and set it next to the one I got from Sam and Dan! My four favorite TAR boys! :yess:
I'm not the fifth favorite TAR boy? :-p
Yes you are. I don't know if I told you before, you are the reason why I started watching TAR. I had never watched the show until your season. Puddin' told me that there was a deaf racer and I then decided to watch it to see you race and guess what? I got hooked on the first episode and have been watching ever since. Now I wish I had started with season 1. I was lucky to be able to watch season 9 on another channel that did a marathon of that season over two days! You and your mom was the ones I was rooting that season and you finished 3rd, then rooted for Sam and Dan and they finished 2nd and then now with Dan and Jordan finishing 1st.....I get better with every season and now it'll probably go downhill, lol!
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: heartz on May 17, 2010, 07:58:43 AM
found it~
Dan & Jordan on Regis & Kelly
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: RealityFreakWill on May 17, 2010, 11:22:08 AM
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: RealityFreakWill on May 18, 2010, 09:51:06 AM
Jordan is very appreciative of the honor and thanks everybody that voted!
I personally thank everyone who took a moment and voted for him as well and am happy it paid off and he won the honor for the week. You guys rock! :tup: :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: David on May 18, 2010, 12:00:10 PM
Will he come here after seeing our love to him? :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: RealityFreakWill on May 18, 2010, 12:07:20 PM
Will he come here after seeing our love to him? :hearts:
I'll ask him and Dan as well, next time I write to them.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: RealityFreakWill on May 18, 2010, 01:35:11 PM
I messaged Dan and Jordan about coming here on RFF so we shall see if they do. Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: RealityFreakWill on May 19, 2010, 01:24:26 AM
Dan wrote back to me today. He said things are very hectic now, understandbly so but he said when things cool down, he would love to sign up and chat with us here! :yess: I haven't heard from Jordan yet. I will keep you posted about them.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: David on May 19, 2010, 07:49:33 AM
<3!!
I can foresee a RFF Fatasy Game, with Luke and Dan, and all the forumers who want to do something cool over this site, joining a GREAT game, and making it the coolest TAR game ever on the net.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: georgiapeach on May 19, 2010, 08:19:56 PM
Something AMAZING is coming our way........ :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: JordanPious on May 19, 2010, 08:23:52 PM
My FIRST EVER RFF POST!! :tup:
This is Jordan Pious, and I am SO excited to FINALLY be a part of the RFF community! You guys are AWESOME, and all of the love and support you have shown my brother and I throughout this season has been incredible and overwhelming in the greatest way possible. WILL, I love your avatar. hehe.
... and to my PEACH!!! THE REAL PEACH!! (the PEACH that is my neighbor in GEORGIA!!) You are amazing (pun intended) and with the help of this outstanding RFF community, you guys put together some really good spoilers!! Quite impressed!
LOVE TO YOU ALL!
JP :waves:
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: georgiapeach on May 19, 2010, 08:30:54 PM
:bigwelcome Jordan!! :hearts:
I can't tell you how wonderful it is to welcome you in particular here!!! :jumpy:
You won our hearts by your clear love for the game. It is a true pleasure to have a winner who loves and knows and appreciates the race, and is a true fan yourself!!
Now look out...your fans await you!! :lol:
:<3
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Cocoa on May 19, 2010, 08:53:50 PM
Hello and welcome to RFF, Jordan! I'm excited to see you here! :jumpy: :hearts: :wohoo: :jam: :colors
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: graytex on May 19, 2010, 09:10:23 PM
Hi Jordan! Peach told me to come and say hi but I missed you!! :'(
It's great to have a racer and a huge fan here with us!
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: TexasLady on May 19, 2010, 09:36:48 PM
Hi Jordan! Welcome to RFF!
:welcome: :bigwelcome :welcome:
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: RealityFreakWill on May 20, 2010, 12:04:44 AM
Jordan sent me a message while I was at work tonight and said he was gonna sign up here. Dan will be following suit soon! Jordan said he'll try to chat with us this weekend, he's busy and so is Dan.
WELCOME TO RFF, JORDAN!
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: chill_sd on May 20, 2010, 12:07:59 AM
:welcome2: to RFF, Jordan. :yourock:
If you ever come to San Diego, I'll buy you a :margarita:
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: redskevin88 on May 20, 2010, 03:10:53 AM
... and to my PEACH!!! THE REAL PEACH!! (the PEACH that is my neighbor in GEORGIA!!) You are amazing (pun intended) and with the help of this outstanding RFF community, you guys put together some really good spoilers!! Quite impressed!
LOVE TO YOU ALL!
JP :waves:
Are you talking about Caite or our Georgiapeach?
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: heartz on May 20, 2010, 06:13:49 AM
hey jordan :waves: :wohoo:
:bigwelcome
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: David on May 20, 2010, 08:20:32 AM
Jordan! Congrats on getting as much money as I can imagine, and I'm extremely pleased we can have you here to chat and get some info not shown on TV, if you don't mind. Thanks for coming here, and this is the 1st time ever I'm happy with the winners of the season.
Welcome here, and spend a nice time in here!!
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: RealityFreakWill on May 20, 2010, 09:34:04 AM
Are you talking about Caite or our Georgiapeach?
Our GeorgiaPeach, of course! They both live in Atlanta.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Hooky on May 20, 2010, 01:50:41 PM
Welcome to RFF, Jordan! Nice to meet you (online that is)! :wohoo:
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Post by: apskip on May 20, 2010, 03:12:51 PM
I have had some difficulty understanding how the USAir flight attendant Karen credited by Dan and Jordan for their strategic move can be at work on UA858. I may have the answer. UA858 was code-shared with 4 different airlines:
(US) US Airways 6803 (FM) Shanghai Airlines 8661 (CO) Continental Airlines 6012 (CA) Air China International 885
I have not heard of code-sharing airlines supplying flight personnel but this is apparently what happened since there is no other reasonable way to explain it. From what I can discover, the reference by I think Jordan to other flights would all point back to the same United flight at the same time since there were no comparable alternative flights they could have used.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: apskip on May 20, 2010, 03:23:24 PM
Intrigued as I always am by international air route questions, I decided to see what alternatives Dan and Jordan (as well as Jet/Cord and Brent/Caite since CBS and World Race Productions were not going to let any team be on a different real flight from the others) had to UA858 and its codeshare partners. There are codeshare variations, but these essential core flight options all left earlier and arrived later, which is appropriate versus a nonstop flight:
I was definitely referring to GEORGIA PEACH!! Can't wait for TAR17 to start filming!!
Congrats on winning TAR, you and your brother were an amazing team, I hope if they have an allstars they invite you both back. I thought the way you both acted in that warzone thing was awesome, you know with the planes and bombs overhead, good viewing lol
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Jobby on June 07, 2010, 10:50:20 PM
I have a dream to run The Amazing Race too.. but i'm not even 21 yet.
And i haven't found a good partner yet..
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: RealityFreakWill on June 10, 2010, 01:13:02 PM
My autographed picture from Dan and Jordan came in the mail today and I love it. Thank you, bros! :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: georgiapeach on June 25, 2010, 09:18:05 AM
How NOT to cash a one million dollar check! :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: David on June 29, 2010, 06:14:53 AM
:lol: <3 it!!
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Guillo on February 14, 2011, 01:07:48 PM
Hey! This was my favourite AR season. I can completely relate to viewing this show as a dream! I haven't been able to build up the courage to try and sign up yet... gotta leave the job and stuff behind, and it's not easy. But it would surely be awsome! Too bad I missed Jordan online :'(
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Prophet on February 14, 2011, 01:13:05 PM
Hey! This was my favourite AR season. I can completely relate to viewing this show as a dream! I haven't been able to build up the courage to try and sign up yet... gotta leave the job and stuff behind, and it's not easy. But it would surely be awsome! Too bad I missed Jordan online :'(
Welcome to RFF, guillo! If you want more info about signing up for TAR, get in touch with georgiapeach!
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 14, 2011, 09:14:46 PM
Or better yet...visit the CBS website. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Jobby on February 15, 2011, 05:10:49 AM
I don't remember peach being a casting officer for TAR. Please don't treat her as a Know-It-All because she's definitely not.
Please go to CBS. CBS = Know It All for TAR.
Kthxbye.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: K2Review on February 22, 2011, 03:00:01 PM
If you were following past racers on Twitter during the TAR18 premiere, you would have seen some fascinating tweets from Jordan regarding the Cowboys, Phil and CBS. He's apparently not too happy about the way the Cowboys' "unfinished business" has been portrayed in the new season.
I won't post anything here, but check out @JordanPious
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Peace, Love, TAR! :D on February 22, 2011, 07:36:29 PM
He's apparently not too happy about the way the Cowboys' "unfinished business" has been portrayed in the new season.
I won't post anything here, but check out @JordanPious
Not too happy is an understatement..........no offense to Dan and Jordan fans, but boy were some of the posts MEAN! I know that the reason Jet and Cord lost the race was not because of the cutting incident, but still, calling them stupid, gross, that they were born losers, and saying Jet is homophobic is beyond "not too happy"....... Jordan needs to :chillpill:
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Prophet on February 22, 2011, 07:43:01 PM
Not too happy is an understatement..........no offense to Dan and Jordan fans, but boy were some of the posts MEAN! I know that the reason Jet and Cord lost the race was not because of the cutting incident, but still, calling them stupid, gross, that they were born losers, and saying Jet is homophobic is beyond "not too happy"....... Jordan needs to :chillpill:
Amen to the chill pill!
And I wonder why I never liked them...
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: phant0m on February 22, 2011, 07:47:08 PM
maybe they have a reason to not like the cowboys? hmm? maybe?
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Prophet on February 22, 2011, 07:47:50 PM
What have the cowboys done to get so much hate? Nothing like what Dan and Jordan are doing to them that's for sure! And Jordan won, you can't even call him a sore loser! There is no explanation for his issues, he got the million!
For anybody who thinks they somehow offended the brothers b/c of a rumor, Jordan has now made up for it and then some.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Mug Costanza on February 22, 2011, 08:38:06 PM
Let's just point something out for the folks keeping score at home.
None of us have met Dan & Jordan. None of us have met Jet & Cord. None of us saw how these four people interacted for three weeks of constant contact while filming TAR16. And according to several post-race interviews with Dan & Jordan, both of them made very specific claims about things Jet said to Jordan over the course of the race.
Jordan has been a fan of the show since the beginning. It was his dream to get a chance to run the race, as I'm sure it is for many of us here. He finally got his chance, and was fortunate enough (not lucky... luck doesn't win the race) to come away with the top prize. It just so happened that one of the teams he and his brother beat was one of the most popular teams to EVER run the race, and now Jordan has to deal with a tarnished legacy and claims of cheating. Let's make it clear: I don't approve of the name-calling. But other than that, I have to agree with Jordan. He's being made to seem like he's a liar and a cheater, and it's completely without merit.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Prophet on February 22, 2011, 08:42:56 PM
I don't think that the brothers cheated their way to victory, the cowboys loss is their own fault.
However, nothing calls for the kind of attitude Jordan is displaying to the whole world. No one has to say anything against him, he is showing everyone what he is really like as are his fans.
For lack of a better expression, cry me a river about his tarnished reputation no one can tarnish your reputation like you can yourself. He obviously doesn't care about it to be acting like that.
No one has accused them of cheating but I would take the so called allegations and the million dollars they have and be happy.
Not at all trying to wage war with you Mug, just ticked off at Mr. Pious.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 22, 2011, 08:51:34 PM
Beautifully said, Mugs! And some of us have met all of them. :lol:
Nothing like what Dan and Jordan are doing to them that's for sure!
You only know what you were shown, TP...you do not have access to all the info.
I will just say that Jordan has VERY strong and valid reasons for being upset, although perhaps Twitter is not the best outlet. And for CBS to allow the Cowboys to infer cheating when they plain got outsmarted was not exactly great judgement either, IMO.
With that, I would prefer us to move along, this topic cannot be resolved by us, particularly those who do not have all the facts. We all have our own opinions I am sure, but this is not the place to resolve them.
:ghug:
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: LoveRocked on February 22, 2011, 10:18:25 PM
Welcome Jordan! Congratulation!! TAR 17.. AWWW, too bad, I missed Jordan online.. :(
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: JordanPious on February 22, 2011, 10:26:48 PM
Hi All! :<3
Just wanted to thank you all for the support, and even those who don't necessarily agree with all of the decisions Dan or I have made, I appreciate the interest... it's what makes this world a special place. I will admit that my emotions got the best of me Sunday night, and I was a bit over-the-top with my tweets. Being on the Race was truly my #1 dream, and to have had that experience.. well, I am just so incredibly thankful. With that said, it is so very hard to sit at home, watching the show as a fan again, and be called a cheater (direct words out of Jet's mouth). I played that game and ran that Race harder than anything I have ever done in my life. After watching the show for 15 seasons, I knew the intricacies of the Race, and reviewed the rules with my brother on a daily basis before leaving. We would have never done anything to put our team in jeopardy, and never once felt that we cheated or broke a Race rule. While it may not change the minds of those of you who only see the good in Jet and Cord and the bad in Dan and I, I wanted to offer up my perspective on Sunday's episode/our interactions with the Cowboys:
The Cowboys were the first team on The Amazing Race 18: Unfinished Business to be introduced on Sunday, with Phil re-introducing viewers to "Jet and Cord, brothers, who were cut in front of by eventual winners Dan and Jordan at the Shanghai airport." Then Jet explains, "I don't think we have to cheat to win the Race, and I don't think nice guys always finish last."
1.) Did Dan and Jordan cheat? Jet McCoy thinks so. CBS even insinuated that they may think so as well... but Dan and Jordan never got a penalty in that final leg in San Francisco. Don't teams get penalized when they break a Race rule? (as an avid Race fan, I can point to numerous occasions where this theory has been proven true -- TAR 14, Mark and Michael for intentionally tampering with bike pumps that would provide an unfair disadvantage for all teams that followed. TAR 13, Nick & Starr AND Terence & Sarah were penalized for 30 minutes due to breaking a Race rule, "speeding". TAR17 Jill and Thomas were penalized for 30 minutes for paying a taxi driver to lead them to the pit stop, breaking a Race rule... the list goes on). Does this mean that when teams "cheat" or break a Race rule, that they are then penalized for it to eliminate any advantage they got by "cheating"? If Dan and Jordan didn't get penalized in that final leg, then does that mean that Dan and Jordan aren't cheaters?
2.) Did Jordan's emotion-driven cut in line at the airport really give Dan and Jordan an edge over Jet and Cord? Did the physical act of cutting Jet and Cord in line truly give Dan and Jordan a measurable advantage in the final leg? When watching the episode, and understanding the timing of events, it becomes obvious that the real game-changer occurred well after that point, hours into the flight, when Dan convinced a flight attendant to move the brothers up to First Class so that they could be the first off the plane. If this act broke a Race rule (which again, had been utilized by other teams in past Races), then wouldn't have Dan and Jordan gotten penalized?
3.) Did Jet watch Jordan spin in circles for 10+ minutes as Dan wrote down the clue at the Star Wars (Lucas Film/Industrial Light & Magic) challenge? Was Jet not only too timid to make a game-changing move in that challenge by inching closer to Jordan right away to get to the next level of the game, but ALSO completely absent-minded when Cord was baffled by the words flashing across his screen? Did this inability to recognize strategy in a challenge cost Jet and Cord more than 10 minutes, setting them back even more in the final leg? Yes. All true.
4.) When the teams (TAR 18) discussed the reasons for not winning in their previous Races, did 10 out of the 11 teams points to a specific decision or challenge that they faced that lead to their elimination. Was there only 1 team that cowardly pointed to an unsubstantiated event that had absolutely zero effect on the Race outcome so that they could put the blame on someone else, and not admit to their missed opportunities? Yes. Jet and Cord McCoy.
5.) Did Jet McCoy call Jordan Pious a "fag" the night before the finale aired (on Jordan's birthday) and in front of his mother? Yes. Do "nice guys" use derogatory words towards others? No. Do "nice guys" finish "last"? Sometimes.
I apologize for rambling. I just wanted to offer up my perspective on everything. I am so passionate about this show, the Race, the game, and wanted to point out some things that I felt were worth communicating to all of you.
I feel so blessed to have been given this opportunity, and just hope that you all can understand that sometimes you can't get a full picture of a person from a 43-minute edited episode each week. Production looks to display certain characters on the show, and carefully chooses clips to support those characters. I can fully understand why so many of you have fallen in love with the Cowboys, but I ask that you consider the circumstances, and understand that Dan and I had a VERY different experience with Jet and Cord than the characters you have learned to love on the Race.
Again, thank you all for the support. It really does mean the world to me.
Race Love.
Jordan
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: TexasLady on February 22, 2011, 10:39:57 PM
It's our pleasure to welcome you to RFF! It was a brilliant idea to ask to move to first class on the last leg of the race. :tup:
Congratulations on your win.
:bigwelcome
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 22, 2011, 10:44:05 PM
Thank you for sharing, Jordan!
We are passionate about the race here, and sometimes passions do run high.
But I know everyone will be interested to see your point of view, and we appreciate your presenting it!
:bigwelcome
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Mug Costanza on February 22, 2011, 10:45:05 PM
Jordan,
What I like about you is that you can still rattle off all that race info (e.g. penalties). It bothers me when people are thrown on the show without ever having seen a single episode or having any sort of familiarity with the rules whatsoever. You truly are a race superfan! :tup: I admire your gamesmanship and your strategical thinking. Thank you for coming here and clearing the air on this whole dispute. You're always welcome here at RFF! :)
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Peace, Love, TAR! :D on February 22, 2011, 10:46:05 PM
:bigwelcome to RFF Jordan! Congrats on your win and we're glad you're here! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Prophet on February 23, 2011, 07:09:16 AM
I want to take the opportunity to clear up the fact that I don't think D/J cheated their way to victory in any way. The points Jordan made about that are true, Jet should have tried harder on the VR task and the cutting in line incident is not why they won. For CBS to keep referring to that as the reason why J/C lost is tacky.
The only issue I have with Jordan is the way he behaved in a public forum on Sunday night. However, as a Jet and Cord fan I congratulate you on your win. You won fair and square and deserved it. Welcome to RFF!
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Zvarri on February 23, 2011, 09:53:16 AM
You have my support Jordan! CBS shouldn't have portrayed you guys like that. It was just unfair.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Cocoa on February 23, 2011, 11:19:05 AM
Hi Jordan! :waves:
I started to hate the Cowboys since the day I've read about Carol and Brandy's interviews and it got intensified when I read about the "fag" incident. I hate it when they are shown as good guys when really they are not (example: in Seychelles, they gave an attitude to Phil by throwing the map at the host's feet). And I also hate it that CBS editors portray you as the bad guy.
Don't worry, Jordan. CBS' only way to bring back their favorites Jet and Cord is brewing this excuse that they we're cut into line or "cheated" by you guys. Because other than that, those Cowboys will not have any excuse in joining this race. It's like Kisha and Jen's scenario: Jen insists that her pee break didn't affect their placements, but the show said it did.
I guess you were on the wrong side of the rainbow while Jet and Cord enjoy their fake identity. Bottomline is I hate the cowboys, and I hate CBS.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: MamaT on February 23, 2011, 01:01:20 PM
Hi Jordan
I am so glad that you posted and took the time to explain your point of view. As I watched the episode on Sunday night, I was so bummed to hear Phil perpetuate the myth that the Cowboys lost because you and Dan "cut in line". That is absolute BS and I can't imagine how difficult it was for you to hear that, not from the Cowboys but from the show . Taking to Twitter may not have been the best idea, but I'm not sure that I would have done any better. You were being wrongly accused of being a cheater and you defended yourself. Again, hindsight is a wonderful thing, and perhaps you could have chosen different words, but in the heat of the moment I probably would have said worse things.
I watched your season with 2 favorites; you and Dan and the Cowboys. As the season came to an end, you and Dan edged out the Cowboys in my heart simply because you are such a fan. (I am also a fan who dreams of running the Race, so I related to you and was won over by your enthusiasm). Then came TARCon weekend and I had the opportunity to meet all of you. I met one team that was gracious, excited and handled an overwhelming situation with class and grace. I met another team (to be fair, it was half a team. Cord was very pleasant to me) that seemed put out by the attention, was rather surly and proved to me the power of editing. Because the Jet that I met was certainly not the "good old boy" that was presented to us on the show.
The only good thing about the Cowboys returning for their "Unfinished Business" is that perhaps their halos will get a bit tarnished and we will see a more accurate portrayal of them. I think that may be already the case. They did show Jet passively aggressively threatening to kick your teeth out. (What a nice boy!) Already a lot of posters are having a difficult time with the whole "Jordan & Dan cheated thing" and they're speaking out. I think the Cowboy love is starting to wane.
I'm sorry that your experience has been messed with. As a true fan of the show, I imagine it must be difficult to have your reputation tarnished in order to prop up another team. Have faith. You have now joined the ranks of teams like the Guidos, Flo and Terrance that got a terribly unkind edit but overcame it and became fan favorites. I have a feeling the same thing will happen toyou. I hope so, after meeting you a few times and seeing you interact with fans, I know what a great ambassador for the show you are. (and your real affection for our peach earned you my love and respect).
Oh, & :wel1:
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Zvarri on February 23, 2011, 01:59:37 PM
I started to hate the Cowboys since the day I've read about Carol and Brandy's interviews and it got intensified when I read about the "fag" incident. I hate it when they are shown as good guys when really they are not (example: in Seychelles, they gave an attitude to Phil by throwing the map at the host's feet). And I also hate it that CBS editors portray you as the bad guy.
Don't worry, Jordan. CBS' only way to bring back their favorites Jet and Cord is brewing this excuse that they we're cut into line or "cheated" by you guys. Because other than that, those Cowboys will not have any excuse in joining this race. It's like Kisha and Jen's scenario: Jen insists that her pee break didn't affect their placements, but the show said it did.
I guess you were on the wrong side of the rainbow while Jet and Cord enjoy their fake identity. Bottomline is I hate the cowboys, and I hate CBS.
I agree with this 100%. I couldn't have said this better myself. Its absolutely despicable.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Prophet on February 23, 2011, 02:10:00 PM
In the end, TPTB will do whatever they want to market TAR:UB. They will bring back whatever teams they feel will bring them ratings.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: north09 on February 23, 2011, 03:31:12 PM
Jordan -
When CBS released the teams and listed that Jet & Cord were back because you and Dan cut in line, I was outraged at the insinuation that the move had any impact on the final result. You're right that every other team took responsibility for their elimination except the cowboys. It's sad that the network that gave you and your brother this opportunity is overlooking why those two really lost. People say it all the time; it's the last leg that really matters. It just so happened that Dan was smart to talk with that flight attendent to get both of you that 30 minute lead on the cowboys. Even when they caught up, it was their decision to complain about you spinning instead of getting over their grudge and solving the task at hand. I think anyone who is a true fan of the race realizes this. If you look on the comments from fans of Jet & Cord on Facebook, a lot of them are saying that teams cheated for getting help on the code and should be given a penalty. I can only assume that when the cowboys are in last many of their fans like to pull out the cheating card. CBS are only going with it because it justifies bringing back these fan favorites. I'm hoping that they do get eliminated at one point in this race.
I still believe that you and your brother ran the race just as hard and with more heart then any other team on your season. Maybe thats why, when it came down to the final leg, that drive was worth one million dollars over strength and southern charm.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Snooky on February 23, 2011, 05:12:02 PM
I started to hate the Cowboys since the day I've read about Carol and Brandy's interviews and it got intensified when I read about the "fag" incident. I hate it when they are shown as good guys when really they are not (example: in Seychelles, they gave an attitude to Phil by throwing the map at the host's feet). And I also hate it that CBS editors portray you as the bad guy.
Don't worry, Jordan. CBS' only way to bring back their favorites Jet and Cord is brewing this excuse that they we're cut into line or "cheated" by you guys. Because other than that, those Cowboys will not have any excuse in joining this race. It's like Kisha and Jen's scenario: Jen insists that her pee break didn't affect their placements, but the show said it did.
I guess you were on the wrong side of the rainbow while Jet and Cord enjoy their fake identity. Bottomline is I hate the cowboys, and I hate CBS.
Not only that, but they use their corny-ish attitudes to make all the previews, etc. (Even though that may not be their fault)
I was upset yesterday when I saw bashing on Dan & Jordan when we don't even know half the story of the whole race. We get an hour out of two days. :P
I honestly don't see why it is anyone's business what Jordan may be posting because he has his own opinion and it is more reliable than ours. (He has ran the race)
Anyway, you did great on your race Jordan and I'm glad you won! Congrats! (And no, you did not cheat. CBS wouldn't allow you guys to since they wanted their precious cowboys to win.)
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Peace, Love, TAR! :D on February 23, 2011, 06:34:49 PM
5.) Did Jet McCoy call Jordan Pious a "fag" the night before the finale aired (on Jordan's birthday) and in front of his mother? Yes. Do "nice guys" use derogatory words towards others? No. Do "nice guys" finish "last"? Sometimes.
:waves: Jordan, I was just wondering, did Jet just come up to you and call you a "fag" or were you guys talking and it just came up? Thanks. Hope you like it here at RFF!
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 23, 2011, 06:59:47 PM
It was unprovoked.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: AmazingRace on February 23, 2011, 08:07:01 PM
Hi Jordan! :waves: :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: JordanPious on February 23, 2011, 09:21:31 PM
5.) Did Jet McCoy call Jordan Pious a "fag" the night before the finale aired (on Jordan's birthday) and in front of his mother? Yes. Do "nice guys" use derogatory words towards others? No. Do "nice guys" finish "last"? Sometimes.
:waves: Jordan, I was just wondering, did Jet just come up to you and call you a "fag" or were you guys talking and it just came up? Thanks. Hope you like it here at RFF!
It was totally unprovoked, and very embarrassing. I can not thank you all enough for the love and support in these last few posts. I wear my heart on my sleeve and do get emotional (sometimes too often and unsolicited). I am not proud of the tweets I made Sunday night and definitely wish the cutting Jet and Cord in line incident at the Shanghai airport had never happened (especially since it had no effect on the Race and ended up making me look like such an a-hole). Still, I try not to live my life with regrets. I am proud of the way my brother and I ran the Race and promise to all of you that if there is ever a true allstars season where they bring back all the previous winners, and I get blessed with yet another opportunity to live the dream, then I will try harder than ever before to make you all proud, and win the Race for all of the adoring Race fans out there (I have been one for 18 seasons, and will be one until long after the show ends). :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Mug Costanza on February 23, 2011, 09:37:37 PM
I don't think you have anything to regret. You and Dan ran a strong race all the way through (well, maybe except for a few stick shift issues :lol3:), you didn't throw elbows, you took the Fast Forward when you got the chance to secure your spot in the game, and you let your knowledge of the game help you to victory. You ran a solid race and deserved your prize money! :)
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 23, 2011, 09:40:33 PM
And such a joy to have a REAL race fan on the show...that makes up for having to have a lot of recruited mactors!
:<3
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Cocoa on February 23, 2011, 11:09:09 PM
Jordan, there is a thread over at Survivor Sucks wherein almost all of the population of the website hates those Cowburps. You might want to check that out (though beware: Flaming is very blatant there. :lol:)
Plus I don't get the love of Cowboinks at Facebook. I was like, seriously, are you kidding me?
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: GeKKou on February 25, 2011, 03:30:09 AM
TAR 16 is by far my favorite and I think it will always be my favorite.
I'm happy that Dan/Jordan won the race because you guys are so passionate about it. And Jordan you are so funny in every way.
You certainly did better in the virtual task while Jet and Cord looked dumb in that task. (Although they are still my favorite, majorly because of Cord, I think he is really nice and a strong team member.And he had some life or death experiences just like Phil. Maybe that's what made Phil like them too.)
The only thing I don't get is that, you guys seem to be very nice and friendly towards Caite while behind her back you kinda talked something not so nice about her with the lesbians. That might affect the lesbians oppinions' towards Caite.
That's only what we can see from the viewer's perspective, we don't really know what's going on behind the scenes.
My conclusions: We all have our own favorites, we will all be attracted to certain personalities whether they are likeable or not in others' eyes. Besides, some people simly support stronger teams or weaker teams. The viewer psychology is as complicated as consumer behavior. CBS needs to do its show that's why it is bringing 'the cutting in line incident ' over and over again. Although i don't think they truly mastered the viewer psychology. Portraying 'the cutting in line incident' that way might push away more viewers, at least some cowboy fans . Maybe they know better about the market. And you guys got the 1 million dollars and the great experience. So, maybe we should all put that behind and just enjoy the show. Don't hate CBS, if you hate it, then quit watching it.
Anyway, I will support any season 16 teams in S18. Unfortunately there is only 1 team.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Prophet on February 25, 2011, 08:48:39 AM
TAR 16 is by far my favorite and I think it will always be my favorite.
I'm happy that Dan/Jordan won the race because you guys are so passionate about it. And Jordan you are so funny in every way.
You certainly did better in the virtual task while Jet and Cord looked dumb in that task. (Although they are still my favorite, majorly because of Cord, I think he is really nice and a strong team member.And he had some life or death experiences just like Phil. Maybe that's what made Phil like them too.)
The only thing I don't get is that, you guys seem to be very nice and friendly towards Caite while behind her back you kinda talked something not so nice about her with the lesbians. That might affect the lesbians oppinions' towards Caite.
That's only what we can see from the viewer's perspective, we don't really know what's going on behind the scenes.
My conclusions: We all have our own favorites, we will all be attracted to certain personalities whether they are likeable or not in others' eyes. Besides, some people simly support stronger teams or weaker teams. The viewer psychology is as complicated as consumer behavior. CBS needs to do its show that's why it is bringing 'the cutting in line incident ' over and over again. Although i don't think they truly mastered the viewer psychology. Portraying 'the cutting in line incident' that way might push away more viewers, at least some cowboy fans . Maybe they know better about the market. And you guys got the 1 million dollars and the great experience. So, maybe we should all put that behind and just enjoy the show. Don't hate CBS, if you hate it, then quit watching it.
Anyway, I will support any season 16 teams in S18. Unfortunately there is only 1 team.
Gekkou, this is perhaps the best perspective on team issues I have seen in this entire thread, maybe the entire forum. Your conclusions are the best I have seen in a long time, so I applaud you for writing all of this.
Caite's treatment of Carol and Brandy is an interesting issue to bring up, and look forward to see anyone's explination of this.
Nevertheless, your perspective is better than anyone else's so far, including my own.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Jobby on February 25, 2011, 12:59:46 PM
Jordan, you and your brother won my heart with your passion to race and drive to win TAR 16. I was actually rooting for Jet and Cord to win on the finale and guessed what, i ended up feeling happy that you and your brother won anyway! It's always see to see another fan of the show do well and even go on to win, rather than people who're thrown onto the show by casting directors and ended up having no idea on what should be happening on the race or whatsoever.
And throughout the times after TAR 16, i continued hearing bad things about the cowboys and it certainly made me enraged about their attitude. Editing really sucks and i wished you and your brother got such a much positive edit that you two definitely deserved.
Guess what, you guys won the leg in Singapore too. Am definitely glad that a great team and winner ultimately go on to win the race after doing well in my home country! :<3
God bless, i guess we should put everything behind and hopefully more people will read about your perspective. You guys won't be on TAR18 anyway since you guys are REAL WINNERS. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: GeKKou on February 26, 2011, 04:48:08 AM
The Prophet, Thank you for your compliment! :lol:
Cord has been a fan favorite for so many years in PBR, definately he doesn't need CBS to portray or edit to show his certain amazing and good qualities. He just has it. As for Jet, I don't really know about him, a bit short tempered and easily provoked though. But Jeff liked his babyface,haha
I can't believe cowboys are making so little money in PBR and doing such a dangerous job! Not fair, not fair.
As far as that concerned, how lucky would that be to travel around the world and win 1million dollars.
So, don't be a sore loser or a SORE WINNER!
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: apskip on February 26, 2011, 11:53:21 AM
There is one incontrovertible fact that speaks louder than any words: Dan and Jordan have $1,000,000 less taxes and Jet and Cord do not (although they might after AR18). I was unhappy to see Dan and Jordan get the winning time differential from their on-pane move, as I would have preferred to see that from superior transportation around San Francisco, scaling Coit Tower faster, the challenge at Industrisl Light and Motion, or the memory challenge. However, those were pretty much a wash and their margin of victory was about what they earned getting off the plane. So be it. According to World Race Productions Dan and Jordan won without a penalty and that is good enough for me.
The bad thing about that move is what it will cause from teams with their camera and sound guys badgering flight attendants worldwide for similar upgrades. I believe that World Race Productions will have to ban such requests. I want to see that sooner rather than later in addition to banning following taxis and all begging two rules changes that are long overdue.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 26, 2011, 12:17:57 PM
The bad thing about that move is what it will cause from teams with their camera and sound guys badgering flight attendants worldwide for similar upgrades. I believe that World Race Productions will have to ban such requests. I want to see that sooner rather than later in addition to banning following taxis and all begging two rules changes that are long overdue.
I agree with the taxis and begging and maybe upgrades too...but as a Southern woman...you can never ban flirting!! :flirt:
:lol: :<3 :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: theschnauzers on February 26, 2011, 06:52:34 PM
One point does need to be made that hasn't been stated.
From everything I've read, including Jordan's post in this thread, their beef is with Jet, not Cord. I think it's important to note that because I suspect the way the issue has been handled by CBS and WRP is based in part on that distinction.
It's unfortunate that we haven't been able to hear both sides of this, but more importantly, I wish there was a way to put the four of them in a room and hatch this out, once and for all.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 26, 2011, 07:17:33 PM
Let's not! :lol:
Cord and his wife are both as sweet as they can be.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: MamaT on February 26, 2011, 07:25:07 PM
but more importantly, I wish there was a way to put the four of them in a room and hatch this out, once and for all.
Oooh! I wanna be there for that, :pfight:
(I know peach, I know. You're right. But like Ive said before, you are a much better person than I.) :kuss:
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: MamaT on March 02, 2011, 05:13:49 PM
Dan & Jordan were featured as an answer on Jeopardy! last night!
The answer was: “In 2010 Siblings Dan & Jordan hit the finish line in San Francisco to win this CBS show’s $1 Million prize.”
Pretty easy question, but very cool for Dan & Jordan, I'm sure.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Mug Costanza on March 02, 2011, 11:17:50 PM
I saw that as well! Glad to see Dan & Jordan (and TAR as a whole) gettin' some Jeopardy love! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: mungobuh on March 03, 2011, 03:37:03 AM
Thank you, Jordan, for posting here. I was very glad to see you and your brother win two seasons back.
I am fascinated with how CBS has handled the image of the Pious brothers in contrast to the "sainted" Cowboys. What I'm about to say may seem jaded/cynical/negative, but it truly reflects how I feel. The narrative we were force fed in Season 16 was very one-sided. The Cowboys and Pious Brothers were boiled down into such archetypes that it's not hard to see how editors and production were pandering to the lowest common denominator: Cowboys=GOOD; Pious Brothers=EVIL. It's a narrative where the all-American good-ol-boys lose with honor because they didn't cut in line and the winners are young blue-state whippersnappers who didn't have the decency to give up, lie down and let the sainted red-state Jet & Cord trample them to the finish line. HOW DARE THEY WIN?!? THEY GOT FIRST ONLY ONCE!!!1!111!!!
Trust me, this lowest-common-denominator bull**** works. I know it works, because a family member of mine unwittingly bought into this narrative. Over the course of the season, she fell in love with the Cowboys...but never had anything good to say about the Pious brothers. She would give a very bland explanation of her feelings with "they just seem like jerks to me." While watching the finale, she was very pissy when Dan & Jordan cut in line. Things got even worse, naturally, when it was clear that the Pious Brothers were running away with the money. After trying to calmly explain that the Pious Brothers' win had nothing to do with cutting in line and that they were cunning enough to get the plane de-boarding advantage, I didn't get any kind of rational response. In fact, I got some rather irrational, unrepeatable diatribe which seemed to imply that shifty east coasters don't need all that money... oh, and there was more to it than that, but I would rather not repeat such ugliness. To be fair, my family member did apologize later...but guess who she's rooting for once again this season.
Jet's homophobic slur towards Jordan, if indeed true, is sad and unsurprising. Reveals so much about his lack of sportsmanship.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: GeKKou on March 03, 2011, 11:35:52 PM
So many subjective opinions...
Who said CBS only portray cowboys as good and the brothers as bad?
CBS did show that temper Jet gave to Phil on the mat in ep 7. CBS also showed cowboys' somewhat sneaky behavior (the bus, the pullover, the indifference to lesbians, just name a few)
As for Dan/Jordan, CBS showed plenty good things about them. Their passion, their humor, Dan's support for Jordan.
As far as I can see, CBS is pretty fair regarding all the contestants. All they care is to give the audience some dramatic scenes, they didn't twist the contestants' personalities.
Stop blaming CBS. Stop pointing out that CBS is a master in manipulating viewers' feelings towards contestants and portraying in the way they want the viewers to see.
WE ARE NOT STUPID WE CAN SEE THROUGH MANY THINGS as long as you watch it really carefully and with your heart! I just love the cowboys even if they are faking to be nice or even if they are really evil. I don't care. And here is my opinion:Cord's 10 years pro in PBR, he suffered countless injuries,and his career earnings is only 330,000 something, and Dan/Jordan run a race and win 1 million, If I were Cord, and I do care money more than he does, I would say in front of the camera to Dan/Jordan: I don't care if you cheat or not, I don't care if it is against the rule or not, stop explaining because you DID CUT IN LINE.
From the batman, It's not who you are underneath, it's what you do that defines you. Basically, Jordan's post won't influence any real cowboy or CBS fans. And i'm glad we get rid of those fake ones.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: mungobuh on March 04, 2011, 12:44:58 AM
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CBS did show that temper Jet gave to Phil on the mat in ep 7. CBS also showed cowboys' somewhat sneaky behavior (the bus, the pullover, the indifference to lesbians, just name a few)
I'll give you those instances. However, when compared with all of the glowingly positive edits PLUS the incessant, overplayed generic wild-wild-west theme music that seemed to underscore their every move, it's safe to say that the edit was overwhelmingly positive for the Cowboys.
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As far as I can see, CBS is pretty fair regarding all the contestants. All they care is to give the audience some dramatic scenes, they didn't twist the contestants' personalities.
I have to disagree. If CBS was truly fair, their editors and story-writers wouldn't have gone for the lazy narrative of "We lost because Dan & Jordan are meanies who cut in line!!! WAAAHHH!!" The reason they lost was because under the circumstances they didn't think outside the box and get to the front of the plane AND failed to grasp a crucial concept at the VR Task. None of their failure to win can be traced back to a line-cutting. But, of course, I'm afraid that will never assuage the über-fans.
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Stop blaming CBS. Stop pointing out that CBS is a master in manipulating viewers' feelings towards contestants and portraying in the way they want the viewers to see.
Why do you insist I stop blaming CBS? If you think they don't manipulate viewers' feelings, you're kidding yourself. Want a current blatant example? Survivor Redemption Island...where we're supposed to be sooooooooo excited that powerhouses Rob and Russell have returned.
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And here is my opinion:Cord's 10 years pro in PBR, he suffered countless injuries,and his career earnings is only 330,000 something, and Dan/Jordan run a race and win 1 million, If I were Cord, and I do care money more than he does, I would say in front of the camera to Dan/Jordan: I don't care if you cheat or not, I don't care if it is against the rule or not, stop explaining because you DID CUT IN LINE.
This is where you truly lose me. The Amazing Race is not a charity case. Nor is Survivor or Big Brother. None of the teams are more entitled to the money based on life hardships. It's all about who gets to the finish line first. With all due respect, Cord isn't the only guy out there with money problems. Who's to say that Dan and Jordan were super rich before the race, and thus, somehow less deserving? We don't know their financial situation, and it's unfair for people like my relative to assume that east coast = rich. And I don't think Dan and Jordan should feel bad for explaining themselves. I believe Jordan himself has even expressed regret over cutting in line because he is decent enough to realize it cast him in a bad light.
I'm just sick to death of reality shows being turned into huge morality plays. That's all.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Cocoa on March 04, 2011, 01:36:45 AM
GeKKou, I smell some banning in the next few hours. Yum! :snicker:
If you want to flame, go to Survivor Sucks.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: GeKKou on March 04, 2011, 05:08:59 AM
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I'll give you those instances. However, when compared with all of the glowingly positive edits PLUS the incessant, overplayed generic wild-wild-west theme music that seemed to underscore their every move, it's safe to say that the edit was overwhelmingly positive for the Cowboys.
look at your word choice: glowingly positive, overplayed, wild-wild-west theme music, overwhelmingly... all your word choice simply indicates that you try to use descriptive words to stress your points and opinions, there is no evidence, to what level are they glowingly and overwhelmingly positive?? it is just your opinion. Then i have mine, To me, by showing the scene, ' Sir, are you all right, just check on my fellow soldier' that shows really funny side of Jordan by showing Jet throwing the map towards Phil, that also indicates some not so good features of him. You will find plenty of examples in which CBS shows both good and bad of all teams. Beyond all that, all these 'editing, theme music, positive effects' you mentioned are nothing to the fans of Jet and Cord, some of the fans are already Cord's fans in PBR, personally, I started to like him only because of his smile, that's all. Like I said in my previous posts, we all have our own favorites, it doesn't matter how CBS shows it. we are just attracted to that.
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I have to disagree. If CBS was truly fair, their editors and story-writers wouldn't have gone for the lazy narrative of "We lost because Dan & Jordan are meanies who cut in line!!! WAAAHHH!!" The reason they lost was because under the circumstances they didn't think outside the box and get to the front of the plane AND failed to grasp a crucial concept at the VR Task. None of their failure to win can be traced back to a line-cutting. But, of course, I'm afraid that will never assuage the über-fans.
you are exaggerating again, they never used the sentence'we lost because Dan/Jordan are meanies who cut in line' They only flashed back the scene where Dan/Jordan were cutting in line. And Jet called him cheating (I'll explain to you why he called him cheating to your last response. ）
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Why do you insist I stop blaming CBS? If you think they don't manipulate viewers' feelings, you're kidding yourself. Want a current blatant example? Survivor Redemption Island...where we're supposed to be sooooooooo excited that powerhouses Rob and Russell have returned.
i never quoted your response or mentioned your name ,actually, the previous post I said that to everybody posted before who insists CBS are showing favors towards the cowboys and they are manipulating the viewers. Once again, it's just what you think. 'why do you insist I' don't you think its a bit funny by starting your question like that while I wasnt even talking to you
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This is where you truly lose me. The Amazing Race is not a charity case. Nor is Survivor or Big Brother. None of the teams are more entitled to the money based on life hardships. It's all about who gets to the finish line first. With all due respect, Cord isn't the only guy out there with money problems. Who's to say that Dan and Jordan were super rich before the race, and thus, somehow less deserving? We don't know their financial situation, and it's unfair for people like my relative to assume that east coast = rich. And I don't think Dan and Jordan should feel bad for explaining themselves. I believe Jordan himself has even expressed regret over cutting in line because he is decent enough to realize it cast him in a bad light.
I'm just sick to death of reality shows being turned into huge morality plays. That's all.
once again, I never said TAR is a charity case. I certainly did lose you. What i meant was Cord and Jet have every reason to be mad at Dan/Jordan cutting in line. Because it's a serious game, it's about 1million dollars. It's everyone's dream. Let's just imagine, If Cord and Jet were cutting in line in front of Dan/Jordan, and Cord and Jet won Season 16, I'm pretty sure Dan/Jordan would call them cheaters as well, maybe even worse. But Cord and Jet would never do that. They wouldn't even think of taking advantage like that (They would't even ask for help from other teams when they stuck in the flags task for so long in ep1,season 18.And they were even too shy to ask the detectives to team up with them in the intersection task in S16. They had to wave their arms to imply that.) some people may think they are dumb or not as flexible as Dan/Jordan. But that's just the cowboys we(cowboy fans) all love.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: GeKKou on March 04, 2011, 05:17:24 AM
GeKKou, I smell some banning in the next few hours. Yum! :snicker:
If you want to flame, go to Survivor Sucks.
First, I'm not flaming, mungobuh is. I wasn't even talking to him/her in my previous post. I'm just stating my opinon to everybody.
Second, I don't watch Survivor.
Third, if you or the moderator here wants to blame the flame, don't blame me, blame Jordan, he posted here by saying something like that of the cowboys. As a fan, i have to say something that is fair to all the Jet/Cord fans
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: jerseydude on March 04, 2011, 08:01:11 AM
Just inputing my opinion.
1. Editing is ALWAYS unfair. Editors, like us, are people and people are entitled to their opinions. Obviously they (or CBS) may have had a specific team that they like or they think the general public will like, thus the editing is geared towards them. It is impossible to have a complete objective editing of any episode. Personally, I think the Cowboy thing is WAY overboard. It's quite obvious that the editors (or someone else) likes the cowboys a lot and I personally get the feeling that they are being shoved down our throats.
2. Did Dan and Jordan "cheat" by "cutting the line?" Does it say in any rulebook that cutting the line is against the rules (thus can be classified as cheating)? I don't think. In addition, there were many opportunities for the Cowboys the catch up after the "cutting of the line" I feel that Dan and Jordan played it smart by asking for an upgrade. BUT the Cowboys did catch up at the virtual task, which then the Cowboys could of overtaken them. They didn't take the opportunity and thus loss. So therefore, Dan and Jordan cannot be blamed entirely for their loss. I personally think that they are to blame since they did not take the opportunity.
*Note: These are MY opinions and I believe that everyone is entitled to their opinions.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2011, 08:57:47 AM
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"While it is perfectly fine to explain why you think a racer or a team did not do well in a task, or behaved badly, or just isn't your favorite, it is NOT okay to be rude or impolite in doing so. We don't allow personal attacks on each other or on our racer friends. Comments on how they raced are fair, personal attacks are not. "Don't hate on the Racers, hate the game."
This is a topic that still, a year later, is causing a lot of interest and discussion, which is of course always welcome. And everyone has their favorites.
But I want everyone to please continue to remember our RFF guidelines and do NOT make this discussion personal amongst you. You are welcome to express your opinions within our guidelines, but there is no need to let the discussion become about you all and your differences, rather than the teams involved.
And if you are primarily discussing Dan and Jordan you are in the right thread. If you are primarily discussing Jet and Cord, let's use their thread, okay?
Thanks everyone!
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Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: mungobuh on March 04, 2011, 12:07:13 PM
I realize now that what I say and how I say it can be taken personally, and I apologize to all who I might have offended, especially Gekkou. I got fired up by Jordan's outrage because I would react the same way. I'm also--big surprise--not a big fan of the Cowboys and I get frustrated when Dan & Jordan are scapegoated.
I'll watch my phraseology from here on out.
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Jobby on March 05, 2011, 08:23:02 AM
I'm a cowboy turned Dan and Jordan fan. The brothers won me over right on the last leg of TAR 16. I was initially rooting for Dan and Jordan as well this season, meaning i don't mind them winning. But seeing how they're raced on the first leg.. you now know why they lost to Dan and Jordan.
Hopefully people will not buy the Dan and Jordan are "cheaters" story that the producers are trying to put forth. (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) :knuckles: :knuckles:
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Elven6 on May 01, 2011, 07:43:58 PM
It was totally unprovoked, and very embarrassing. I can not thank you all enough for the love and support in these last few posts. I wear my heart on my sleeve and do get emotional (sometimes too often and unsolicited). I am not proud of the tweets I made Sunday night and definitely wish the cutting Jet and Cord in line incident at the Shanghai airport had never happened (especially since it had no effect on the Race and ended up making me look like such an a-hole). Still, I try not to live my life with regrets. I am proud of the way my brother and I ran the Race and promise to all of you that if there is ever a true allstars season where they bring back all the previous winners, and I get blessed with yet another opportunity to live the dream, then I will try harder than ever before to make you all proud, and win the Race for all of the adoring Race fans out there (I have been one for 18 seasons, and will be one until long after the show ends). :tup:
Hi Jordan,
A belated congrats on winning. :)
Just found this thread. Can you clarify something you guys said in an interview?
Dan Pious: Yeah, Jet called Jordan a "fag" Saturday night for absolutely no reason and Jordan just said hello to him, so there was something on the Race and I guess, in all fairness, there's some stuff that isn't shown and I think it's an important thing to get out.
I remember reading on a forum (either this one or another TAR one) from people who were at TARCon where I believe this happened? They said you were blocking Jet's way and that's when he said it. I don't think they said you had said anything? I'll see if I can find the links again.
If Jet and Cord (it doesn't look like a specific one is differentiated against in this context) were saying things about the other teams, why haven't they come forward about it as well? They did so after the Joe and Catie incidents from what I remember. The only thing I can remember is Carol and Brandy talking to each other about it but they assumed he wasn't very social and if he was indeed homophobic he kept it to himself.
In the earlier episodes (going by those unaired Youtube clips on CBS's page) you guys also said you liked the cowboys but in the segment posted from the final episode at the airport where you guys went to talk to Brent and Catie (who seemed to be uncomfortable with the discussion) you said they didn't like you because they were homophobic or something like that. What caused this shift?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXq1sG9DvEE
Thanks,
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: RealityFreakWill on May 07, 2011, 11:34:41 PM
HAPPY 23RD BIRTHDAY, JORDAN!
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: AmazingRace on May 07, 2011, 11:54:45 PM
:party: :hbday: :party:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY JORDAN!
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Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: LoveRocked on May 08, 2011, 12:11:07 AM
:party: :party:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY JORDAN
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: David on May 08, 2011, 03:52:14 AM
YAY! Congrats Jordan!! <3
Title: Re: TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers
Post by: Alfwin on May 08, 2011, 09:08:03 AM