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Title: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on February 23, 2009, 03:49:43 PM
March 8
It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots (Siberia) The teams travel from Romania to Siberia on the fourth leg of the race. Once there, they must choose to either stack a large pile of wood or apply shutters to a house. The pairs also learn about a new twist to the race that leaves one duo scrambling to stay in the competition.
Clues: *DURING THE RACE'S FIRST-EVER VISIT TO SIBERIA, TEAMS MUST TRUDGE THROUGH A HARSH RUSSIAN WINTER IN SEARCH OF A FAMOUS PLAYWRIGHT, AND A NEW TWIST LEAVES ONE TEAM FIGHTING FOR THEIR SURVIVAL IN THE GAME *Teams travel to Siberia, the show's first- ever visit, **where a first place team quickly learns how it feels to be last, ***and when a new twist is revealed, one Team is left scrambling for their survival in the game *One team hits another with a Blind U-turn sending shockwaves throughout the Race and teams must make it through a Russian winter.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep4/th_rff-0117.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep4/rff-0117.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep4/th_rff-0119.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep4/rff-0119.jpg) Jennifer and Kisha
Detours thanks to goodyingbadyang
Detour: Stack or Construct Stack- Follow the marked path to the woodwork (?). Then, gingerly build a wall of firewood by stacking one pile of wood into a neat, traditional formation to receive your next clue Construct - Follow the marked path to the workshop. Then, using all the provided pieces, assemble a set of siberian shutters. Then, install them on a nearby house so that they are working properly in order to receive your next clue.
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(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep4/th_rff-0018-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep4/rff-0018-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep4/th_rff-0009.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep4/rff-0009.jpg) Mike & Mel
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep4/th_rff-0008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep4/rff-0008.jpg) Tammy & Victor in the background
I think that since there are 12 legs this season Leg 5 is likely to be a non-elim. Think back to TAR 10 and 11. So they could make it to Leg 6!
Oh, no, I don't think so. There are two Siberia legs, and I think they're supposed to go out on one of these two. I could be wrong and they make it even past here, but I'm doubtful about that, considering Preston all but said Kisha was laughing about him needing an extra bungee cord for weeks in sequester. I think they're going out in Siberia, for sure -- on the second of the two legs there.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Hooky on February 25, 2009, 10:38:40 PM
I agree, Kiwi, Kisha's laugh annoyed me to death! But I just want to see thes teams that aren't getting good story edits to make it as far as possible - I really want to get to know them better.
It would be nice if one of the Siberia legs was a non-elim. I hope that if it's not leg 5, then it's leg 4 instead of waiting until as late as possible.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: gator27 on March 01, 2009, 03:07:59 PM
Google Earth was fuzzy in Romania. What is it going to be like in Siberia?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Boingo on March 01, 2009, 03:38:09 PM
Google Earth was fuzzy in Romania. What is it going to be like in Siberia?
:tup: no worries, gator. A quick check in GE shows the two identified Russian cities of Novosibirsk and Krasnoyarsk are "in the clear". Should be easy to following them there. :snicker:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 01, 2009, 04:10:56 PM
Plus, there's a lot of snow. As long as people don't wear white, they won't blend in. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 01, 2009, 08:15:29 PM
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 01, 2009, 08:39:27 PM
That looks like a ride the little train at a fast speed and spot the clue task. I forget which season where teams had to ride rollercoasters and spot the clue.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 01, 2009, 08:44:10 PM
Agreed, the track looks like a rodelbahn track. The Mole had a similar spot-the-sign rodelbahn task in Santiago.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Kogs on March 01, 2009, 08:47:47 PM
That looks like a ride the little train at a fast speed and spot the clue task. I forget which season where teams had to ride rollercoasters and spot the clue.
tar9 fujiku highlands they had to spot the worker on the 3rd coaster to get the name of the pit stop lake yamanaka
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Boingo on March 01, 2009, 08:52:49 PM
FWIW, here's a view of the River Ob near Novosibirsk for comparison. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 01, 2009, 08:54:08 PM
That looks like a ride the little train at a fast speed and spot the clue task. I forget which season where teams had to ride rollercoasters and spot the clue.
tar9 fujiku highlands they had to spot the worker on the 3rd coaster to get the name of the pit stop lake yamanaka
That was it! Thank you, kogs.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: NoluckBoston on March 01, 2009, 09:12:43 PM
I wonder if you have to remember the order of the shapes and signs and then reassemble them?
In some of those pictures it looks like its some type of ski slope.
I wonder if you have to remember the order of the shapes and signs and then reassemble them?
That combined with the TARA Fukuoka ice cube task?
I see: 'С' 'О' 'Е' 'Н' 'К' 'Н' '?'. Anyone wants to give it a try? ;D
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 01, 2009, 09:32:19 PM
Chekhov?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 01, 2009, 09:34:28 PM
I think you got it, Slowhatch! Was Chekhov from Siberia?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Neobie on March 01, 2009, 09:38:36 PM
Cyrillic "ch" is "Щ" or "Ч" though...
*madly punching in random words ("Victory! Elimination! Win! Race! Bobsled!") into a Russian translator*
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: NoluckBoston on March 01, 2009, 09:41:33 PM
I found a web site with his time line.
"1890 - April 21 Chekhov leaves to travel across Siberia to visit and report on the penal colony on the island of Sakhalin where he arrived on June 11."
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 01, 2009, 10:34:54 PM
There's a rodelbahn in the Bobrovy Log (http://www.nornik.ru/en/press/news/2139/) ski resort/funpark near Krasnoyarsk. (map/photo here (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/10451969)).
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Jobby on March 01, 2009, 10:36:19 PM
Oh dear, doesn't look good for Luke.. :ascared
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 01, 2009, 11:18:42 PM
Next On The Amazing Race It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots (Siberia) One team hits another with a Blind U-turn sending shockwaves throughout the Race and teams must make it through a Russian winter.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: michael on March 01, 2009, 11:20:23 PM
Next On The Amazing Race It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots (Siberia) One team hits another with a Blind U-turn sending shockwaves throughout the Race and teams must make it through a Russian winter.
watching the insider clips, Jaime/Cara said they aren't fond of the blondes because they told Tammy and Victor to "ditch the read heads"...Maybe they use the u-turn?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 01, 2009, 11:20:58 PM
preview The teams are off to Siberia where a detour may crush more than just their dreams. Don't miss The Amazing Race Sundays on CBS!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: mswood on March 01, 2009, 11:22:11 PM
Michael the only team I can think of that would really shock a lot of the other teams is if someone U-Turned Margie & Luke.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: goodyingbadyang on March 01, 2009, 11:28:28 PM
But would that be referred to as a "blind u-turn" ??
maybe the team panics and don't know who to u-turn (not knowing how far behind OR ahead any of the teams are), a-la blondies u-turning lorena/jason and goths u-turning nick/grandpa
Jaimie and Cara are my pick for the U-TURNED based on that preview alone. They look like they're about to cry and if they're having that much trouble with the wood wall detour you'd think that they would just switch.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 01, 2009, 11:37:51 PM
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Ashe on March 01, 2009, 11:44:49 PM
Is that Amanda or one of Christie & Jodi in one of those last shots?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 01, 2009, 11:45:12 PM
Christie ^^^
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: goodyingbadyang on March 01, 2009, 11:47:30 PM
Detour: Stack or Construct
Stack- Follow the marked path to the woodwork (?). Then, gingerly build a wall of firewood by stacking one pile of wood into a neat, traditional formation to receive your next clue
Amanda/Kris alongside Jaimie/Cara (shown complaining about Amanda not doing anything) seperate shot of Mel/Mike but it looks about the same time frame
Construct - Follow the marked path to the workshop. Then, using all the provided pieces, assemble a set of siberian shutters. Then, install them on a nearby house so that they are working properly in order to receive your next clue
Mark/Michael
Roadblock: Speedreader
Victor Christie Luke Jaimie
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Chateau d If on March 01, 2009, 11:51:45 PM
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: goodyingbadyang on March 01, 2009, 11:52:03 PM
According to the stuntmen:
First flight has them, Kisha and Jenn, and Christie and Jodie
while the others "got stuck in the other airport"
and on second thought, Cara's just tearing up because Jaimie's being a bitch :'( :'( :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Kiwi Jay on March 01, 2009, 11:53:54 PM
Very good goodyingbadying!!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 01, 2009, 11:58:51 PM
The brickwork (http://bobrolog.ru/component/option,com_datsogallery/Itemid,43/func,detail/id,49/) and manufacturer (Wiegand) match up; it would seem to be Bobrovy Log (http://wikimapia.org/8691140/ru/%D0%93%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8B%D0%B6%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9-%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81-%D0%91%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B9-%D0%9B%D0%BE%D0%B3) (Beaver Valley).
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Chateau d If on March 02, 2009, 12:27:22 AM
You got it Slowhatch!
Here is a Panoramio (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/17680981) that has some track in it:
"M-something-g-something Attraction - RODELBAHN". Nothing we didn't know?
Is this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdodQp47u2A) the correct one? Nah, signboard at the end is different.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Chateau d If on March 02, 2009, 01:02:29 AM
This shot was taken between 8:20 and 8:40 am (assumes November 8th).
Probably an hours of operation delay and the Roadblock is the first task of the leg.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Jobby on March 02, 2009, 01:53:01 AM
The first thought that came into my mind for a blind U-TURN which sends shocks had two scenarios -
1. One team just U-TURNing another team without any reason - This is a duh-reason, which means it is possible for any team to be U-TURNed by another team next week. No point trying to figure out who.
2. Blind, doesn't even make sense for the decision made to U-TURN the team - Christie/Jodi, Jaime/Cara came into my mind instantly.. because they have been in the back pack for the past 3 legs.. it doesn't even make much sense to U-TURN them.
And who do i see using the U-TURN? Either Cara and Jaime or Mark and Michael. For some reason, i believe Mark and Micael will use the U-TURN.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: CrazyForKahlen on March 02, 2009, 07:37:10 AM
I thought it was most likely the"blind U-Turn" referred to a new twist where teams don't know which team inflicts the U-Turn.
I'm expect this to be an NEL so it doesn't matter much who goes - I could see any of the teams except Amanda/Kris finishing last based on the preview.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Jobby on March 02, 2009, 08:00:25 AM
I thought it was most likely the"blind U-Turn" referred to a new twist where teams don't know which team inflicts the U-Turn.
That's a good one! This might be it! :tup:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: apskip on March 02, 2009, 08:25:11 AM
Typical progression of legs in Amazing Races goes an average of 5 legs before an NEL. However, in this case the timing suggests that a TBC is more likely than a NEL.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: apskip on March 02, 2009, 08:41:24 AM
This looks to be like a diabolical DETOUR. STACK or CONSTRUCT each looks very difficult unless you are a carpenter or a woodsman, which no AR14 racer is. The rodelbahn (presumably) ROADBLOCK looks very easy, so the twist has to be remembering something viewed along the track and then the ability to translate that from Cyrillic into English.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: apskip on March 02, 2009, 09:21:43 AM
Teams did not arrive in Brasov until 0920 and they had the RAODBLOCK and DETOUR to contend with. With the exception of Brad/Victoria, they should finsh at between noon and 4pm. After the pitstop, they have about a 3 hour drive in the middle of the night (more during the day time) to get to Bucharest airport between 3am and 7am. The best route Bucharest to Kransnojarsk after 3am is one of these 3 combinations probably taken by the 3 leading teams:
There are 3 choices for the first flight, OA382 OTP ATH 0940 1115 or OA942 OTP ATH 0945 1205 or TK1444 OTP IST 1050 1215 Second flight is SU296 ATH SVO 1310 1730 or TK1415 IST SVO 1335 1740 Third flight for all 3 is SU779 SVO KJA 1055 0540+1 Note: there are also inferior routes through Paris or Frankfurt requiring leaving earlier.
The next best combination, used probably by all other teams, is: OTP BUD RO9233 1040 1110 BUD DME MA106 1440 1910 Moscow DME Krasnojarsk (KJA) S7071 2220 0645+1
Note for all routes that transportation systems in Russia are set up to funnel through Moscow(logical in the case of goingn from Buchrest to Krasnojarsk but not very logical for Novosibirsk to Delhi.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 02, 2009, 09:36:42 AM
The wooden building must have some local significance, otherwise why put the cluebox there? The closest thing I could find is the church pictured in this album (http://www.ihes.fr/~zinovyev/allalapa/albums/krasnoyarsk/photos/photo_70.html): note the log pattern and the streetlamps. The photos aren't tagged, but I think it's in the Ovsyanka vicinity that Chateau found earlier.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 02, 2009, 10:20:46 AM
Good job everyone. nice match Slowhatch :tup:
Clues:
DURING THE RACE'S FIRST-EVER VISIT TO SIBERIA, TEAMS MUST TRUDGE THROUGH A HARSH RUSSIAN WINTER IN SEARCH OF A FAMOUS PLAYWRIGHT, AND A NEW TWIST LEAVES ONE TEAM FIGHTING FOR THEIR SURVIVAL IN THE GAME, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," MARCH 8 ON CBS
"It Was Like A Caravan Of Idiots" (Siberia) - Teams travel to Siberia, the show's first- ever visit, where a first place team quickly learns how it feels to be last, and when a new twist is revealed, one Team is left scrambling for their survival in the game, on THE AMAZING RACE 14, Sunday, March 8 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Phil Keoghan is host.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 02, 2009, 10:26:59 AM
Typical progression of legs in Amazing Races goes an average of 5 legs before an NEL. However, in this case the timing suggests that a TBC is more likely than a NEL.
But the map tells us there is a pitstop (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17805.msg375693.html#msg375693) in Krasnoyarsk so?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: CrazyForKahlen on March 02, 2009, 11:57:59 AM
Quote
But the map tells us there is a pitstop in Krasnoyarsk so?
And TAR6 had a Leg 4 NEL, so it wouldn't be anything new.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Chateau d If on March 02, 2009, 12:06:32 PM
DURING THE RACE'S FIRST-EVER VISIT TO SIBERIA, TEAMS MUST TRUDGE THROUGH A HARSH RUSSIAN WINTER IN SEARCH OF A FAMOUS PLAYWRIGHT, AND A NEW TWIST LEAVES ONE TEAM FIGHTING FOR THEIR SURVIVAL IN THE GAME, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," MARCH 8 ON CBS
"It Was Like A Caravan Of Idiots" (Siberia) - Teams travel to Siberia, the show's first- ever visit, where a first place team quickly learns how it feels to be last, and when a new twist is revealed, one Team is left scrambling for their survival in the game, on THE AMAZING RACE 14, Sunday, March 8 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Phil Keoghan is host.
Pàvlovič Chéchov, Russian pronunciation: [ɐnˈton ˈpavləvʲɪtɕ ˈtɕɛxəf]) was a Russian short-story writer, playwright and physician, considered to be one of the greatest short-story writers in world literature.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: patlini on March 02, 2009, 12:36:51 PM
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Clues:
DURING THE RACE'S FIRST-EVER VISIT TO SIBERIA, TEAMS MUST TRUDGE THROUGH A HARSH RUSSIAN WINTER IN SEARCH OF A FAMOUS PLAYWRIGHT, AND A NEW TWIST LEAVES ONE TEAM FIGHTING FOR THEIR SURVIVAL IN THE GAME, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," MARCH 8 ON CBS
new twist being the blind U turn though fighting for survial sounds like they make it
Quote
"It Was Like A Caravan Of Idiots" (Siberia) - Teams travel to Siberia, the show's first- ever visit, where a first place team quickly learns how it feels to be last, and when a new twist is revealed, one Team is left scrambling for their survival in the game, on THE AMAZING RACE 14[/b], Sunday, March 8 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Phil Keoghan is host.
to take the quote literally "a first place team" in last
Margie/Luke - he looks like he is struggling big time at the roadblock Mike/Mel Victor/Tammy - though they experienced this in episode 3
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Ruth on March 02, 2009, 12:40:07 PM
I just have this feeling that Christie and Jodie get U-turned. Noooooo~
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 02, 2009, 12:41:05 PM
I would take Mel and Mike in last in this leg.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 02, 2009, 12:41:49 PM
I just have this feeling that Christie and Jodie get U-turned. Noooooo~
Based on the insider clips, there's a little animosity at Team Southwest from the redheads. Women can get catty sometimes. :meow: :meow: :meow:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 02, 2009, 12:49:19 PM
Well, thanks to the video.. the first place teams, by flight in Krasnoyarsk are Michael/Mark Christie/Jodi Kisha/Jen. That is IF this is who the clue is referring to and if their is not bunching. We don't know how the Blind U-Turn works. Can the team that chooses to use it have to randomly pull a teams picture? They don't carry their own picture right? Like a game of chance .. The Munoz brothers don't appear to be U-Turned so?
Amanda & Kris aren't U-Turned either as we see them reading the detour options
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Neobie on March 02, 2009, 01:18:11 PM
What happened to the blizzard? :groan:
Our teams can arrive in Russia earliest on the 6th, and must leave latest by the 11th.
Krasnojarsk had "light snow showers" from the 9th to the 11th. Clear or cloudy otherwise. Novosibirsk had "light snow showers" on the 9th and 10th, "light snow" on the 11th. Clear or cloudy otherwise.
Van Munster lying again?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: michael on March 02, 2009, 01:24:46 PM
Well, thanks to the video.. the first place teams, by flight in Krasnoyarsk are Michael/Mark Christie/Jodi Kisha/Jen. That is IF this is who the clue is referring to and if their is not bunching. We don't know how the Blind U-Turn works. Can the team that chooses to use it have to randomly pull a teams picture? They don't carry their own picture right? Like a game of chance .. The Munoz brothers don't appear to be U-Turned so?
Amanda & Kris aren't U-Turned either as we see them reading the detour options
Puddin, don't teams find out they are U-turned after completing one of he detours?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: hakushu8 on March 02, 2009, 01:30:52 PM
The wooden building must have some local significance, otherwise why put the cluebox there? The closest thing I could find is the church pictured in this album (http://www.ihes.fr/~zinovyev/allalapa/albums/krasnoyarsk/photos/photo_70.html): note the log pattern and the streetlamps. The photos aren't tagged, but I think it's in the Ovsyanka vicinity that Chateau found earlier.
I have found the church. Really, I was bugged when I saw that album. :lol:
http://www.kerpc.ru/hrams/prihodskie and http://www.kerpc.ru/prihoddb/images/i96/picview
... note the bell tower in the background of the 2nd picture.
Description: Манский район. Храм святого Иннокентия Иркутского Автор: Дмитрий Киселев Translation: (by Google translate) Mansky District. Church of St. Innocent of Irkutsk Author: Dmitry Kiselev
Address: 663090, п. Овсянка, пер. 2-й, 6 «А»
Овсянка = Ovsyanka?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: apskip on March 02, 2009, 01:35:06 PM
Typical progression of legs in Amazing Races goes an average of 5 legs before an NEL. However, in this case the timing suggests that a TBC is more likely than a NEL.
But the map tells us there is a pitstop (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17805.msg375693.html#msg375693) in Krasnoyarsk so?
And if you believe everything you read from World Race Productions I have a major bridge to sell you. There are known to be 8 elimination points and 1 finale. That leaves 3 legs for NELS or TBCs. I have been wrong on recent speculations of when a TBC might happen (it hasn't), but I still think it is appopriate to speculate that AR14 will be different.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: hakushu8 on March 02, 2009, 01:38:25 PM
More info, warranting a new post. Sorry for that.
According to this site: http://www.suvenirograd.ru/sights.php?id=650&lang=2
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Church of St. Innocent of Irkutsk in Ovsyanka, which consists of a wooden chapel belfry and a total area of 59.7 square kilometers. m, was built in 1994 on the initiative and with the participation of writer Victor Petrovich Astafijeva.
The author - architect Areg Demirhanov. Other projects of Demirhanov - a librari and church, created at the request Astafijeva in the Ovsyanka.
I searched for the boldened name, and I went to this site:
Writer. Born on May 1, 1924 in the village of Ovsyanka, in the Krasnoyarsk region. In 1942 graduated from the Rail School and worked that year for four months on building a railroad. In 1942 joined the military and went to fight in World War II. Studied at a soldier's school in Novosibirsk in 1942, and in 1943 fought until the end of the war as a soldier. Was given several medals for his bravery at the war.
After the war worked at a railway station, until in the 1950s started writing stories for the Chusovsky Worker. In 1958 became a member of the Soviet Union of Writers, and in 1962 became a professional writer.
Throughout the 1950s and 1960s published books of stories and novels. From 1979 to 1981 four volumes of his collected works was published by the Molodaya Gvardia publishing house.
In 1991 was the Secretary of the Soviet Union of Writers. Died in 2001.
Note the boldened title. It is probable that for the Roadblock, team members had to write the word "Chusovsky Worker" because honestly, Anton Chekhov has no direct link to Krasnoyarsk. What I believe would happen for this leg is:
Teams arrive on Krasnoyarsk RB with speed reading - must form the words Chusovsky Worker Go to place associated with writer of Chusovsky Worker - Orthodox Church in Ovsyanka Detour U-turn afterwards?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Neobie on March 02, 2009, 01:45:32 PM
I'm thinking we have too much time for a TBC?
Now if Romania was extended, teams arrive in Krasnojarsk by the morning of the 8th. A day of tasks, then a TBC and an overnight train to Novosibirsk? They'd be checking in to Novosibirsk around afternoon of the 9th.
Add another extended Pit Stop, and teams depart Novosibirsk early morning of the 11th. They're therefore likely to make a flight (departing at 10.55am) that'd have them checking in at Jaipur on the 12th instead of the 13th (and that's with two extended Pit Stops).
NEL? Probably. TBC? Maybe not.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: apskip on March 02, 2009, 01:49:55 PM
Huh? It's a long way on the TransSiberian Railway from Krasnojarsk to Irkutsk. I think I got a 15 to 16 hour transit time. However there are 2 nonstops each way but only on Mondays:
KJA IKT 7B517 0810 0945 KJA IKT FV577 1100 1345
and one in the return direction only on a Saturday IKT KJA 7B518 1105 1145 and one in the return direction only on a Monday IKT KJA FV578 1540 1635.
This does not mesh well with the potential arrival of teams in Krasnojarsk on Saturday Nov. 8.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 02, 2009, 01:54:28 PM
Well, thanks to the video.. the first place teams, by flight in Krasnoyarsk are Michael/Mark Christie/Jodi Kisha/Jen. That is IF this is who the clue is referring to and if their is not bunching. We don't know how the Blind U-Turn works. Can the team that chooses to use it have to randomly pull a teams picture? They don't carry their own picture right? Like a game of chance .. The Munoz brothers don't appear to be U-Turned so?
Amanda & Kris aren't U-Turned either as we see them reading the detour options
Puddin, don't teams find out they are U-turned after completing one of he detours?
Yeahthatsright :lol: :groan:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Neobie on March 02, 2009, 01:54:40 PM
Huh? It's a long way on the TransSiberian Railway from Krasnojarsk to Irkutsk. I think I got a 15 to 16 hour transit time.
It would be 15-16h if you're headed to Irkutsk, but you'd be lost in Siberia, Apskip! :lol:
It's around 12h from Krasnojarsk to Novosibirsk, for example 6.26pm to 6.47am the next day.
So, yeah. Probably too much time for a TBC.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: apskip on March 02, 2009, 02:16:39 PM
Victor Petrovich Astafijeva, who ever heard of him before today? Now Anton Chekhov I believe most of us have heard of. However, Chekhov was born in Taganov in the Rostov Oblast in southwest Russia, a long way from Siberia.
However, there was a relationship more than Chekhov's references to his "warm Siberia". there must have been a significant relationship. Artist Michael Pennington devised and performed a play titled "Chekhov in Siberia" on BBC Radio in 1986.
That relationship was his trip as part of his medical studies to Sakhalin Island in the far northeast of Siberia (that would be the island whose southern half went from control by Russia to Japan in 1905 and came back in 1944). He surveyed 10,000 convicts sentenced to lifetime quarantine there for his doctoral research.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: apskip on March 02, 2009, 02:20:39 PM
Huh? It's a long way on the TransSiberian Railway from Krasnojarsk to Irkutsk. I think I got a 15 to 16 hour transit time.
It would be 15-16h if you're headed to Irkutsk, but you'd be lost in Siberia, Apskip! :lol:
It's around 12h from Krasnojarsk to Novosibirsk, for example 6.26pm to 6.47am the next day.
So, yeah. Probably too much time for a TBC.
I don't think I am lost in Siberia. If you examine my multiple posts on the subject of TransSiberian Railway schedules, Neobie, you would conclude otherwise. I am quite familiar with the Krasnojarsk to Novosibirsk schedules, as stated in all versions of the Timelines since we knew Krasnoyarsk was a stop for AR14 and perhaps even a little before that. What is going on here is some speculation about teams maybe goign to Irkutsk. I don't think it happened, but it does not hurt to be prepared with the logistics of how they could do it.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Chateau d If on March 02, 2009, 02:24:08 PM
According to this site: http://www.suvenirograd.ru/sights.php?id=650&lang=2
Quote
Church of St. Innocent of Irkutsk in Ovsyanka, which consists of a wooden chapel belfry and a total area of 59.7 square kilometers. m, was built in 1994 on the initiative and with the participation of writer Victor Petrovich Astafijeva.
The author - architect Areg Demirhanov. Other projects of Demirhanov - a librari and church, created at the request Astafijeva in the Ovsyanka.
I searched for the boldened name, and I went to this site:
Writer. Born on May 1, 1924 in the village of Ovsyanka, in the Krasnoyarsk region. In 1942 graduated from the Rail School and worked that year for four months on building a railroad. In 1942 joined the military and went to fight in World War II. Studied at a soldier's school in Novosibirsk in 1942, and in 1943 fought until the end of the war as a soldier. Was given several medals for his bravery at the war.
After the war worked at a railway station, until in the 1950s started writing stories for the Chusovsky Worker. In 1958 became a member of the Soviet Union of Writers, and in 1962 became a professional writer.
Throughout the 1950s and 1960s published books of stories and novels. From 1979 to 1981 four volumes of his collected works was published by the Molodaya Gvardia publishing house.
In 1991 was the Secretary of the Soviet Union of Writers. Died in 2001.
Note the boldened title. It is probable that for the Roadblock, team members had to write the word "Chusovsky Worker" because honestly, Anton Chekhov has no direct link to Krasnoyarsk. What I believe would happen for this leg is:
Teams arrive on Krasnoyarsk RB with speed reading - must form the words Chusovsky Worker Go to place associated with writer of Chusovsky Worker - Orthodox Church in Ovsyanka Detour U-turn afterwards?
I'm going to stick with CHECKOV CHEKHOV (opps!) because it fits the evidence. There is no E in Chusovsky and not enough letter boards to spell out "Chusovsky Worker"
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 02, 2009, 02:38:59 PM
In the video preview Mark & Michael are seen looking for the construct Detour, which they can't find. Anyway, they are spotted here at the wood stack. So did they change minds ....or?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: DrRox on March 02, 2009, 02:54:04 PM
Is Luke's trouble figuring out the word before or after the challenge where they have to stack the wood. Does anyone know?
Chateau states that he thinks the Roadblock is first. It makes sense too because don't U-Turns usually come after the Roadblocks in previous seasons?
Actually...none of the U-Turns have come after roadblocks so far.
And also, doesn't Michael (or Mark) say in the preview that they're looking for the house to put the shutters on? That's the second half of the Construct detour, so if they've been U-Turned, they've probably completed the Stack task and are looking to finish this one, and they've lost their lead because they can't find the house, not because they've been U-Turned.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 02, 2009, 03:28:41 PM
Is Luke's trouble figuring out the word before or after the challenge where they have to stack the wood. Does anyone know?
Chateau states that he thinks the Roadblock is first. It makes sense too because don't U-Turns usually come after the Roadblocks in previous seasons?
Actually...none of the U-Turns have come after roadblocks so far.
And also, doesn't Michael (or Mark) say in the preview that they're looking for the house to put the shutters on? That's the second half of the Construct detour, so if they've been U-Turned, they've probably completed the Stack task and are looking to finish this one, and they've lost their lead because they can't find the house, not because they've been U-Turned.
Yup I'm batting zero today :lol: Plus per clue Michael and Mark are a lead team so if they were U-Turned it would almost have to be the sisters or blonds that have Blind U-turned them don't you think? I could see Jodi doing this .......
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 02, 2009, 03:31:23 PM
This shot was taken between 8:20 and 8:40 am (assumes November 8th).
Probably an hours of operation delay and the Roadblock is the first task of the leg.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: pitt02 on March 02, 2009, 03:37:50 PM
If the roadblock is the 1st task and Luke is having trouble doing that than we can almost be sure that the stacks completed are not theirs. They could have done the other task. The completed task could have came from Jennifer and Lakisha which means they could have been the 1st into the task meaning they could have u-turned Mark and Mike. Or on the other hand that could be completly wrong.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Chateau d If on March 02, 2009, 03:41:42 PM
Here is the location of the Church. Slowhatch had the correct city.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Chateau d If on March 02, 2009, 03:43:18 PM
I also have to correct my location of the other part of the Detour.
I had the wrong side of the river. The Power towers are on both sides of course :groan:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: DrRox on March 02, 2009, 04:08:31 PM
Plus per clue Michael and Mark are a lead team so if they were U-Turned it would almost have to be the sisters or blonds that have Blind U-turned them don't you think? I could see Jodi doing this .......
It has to be one of the other early arrival teams, K/J or J/C, that would have the ability to U-Turn Mark/Michael. Personally, I dont see that type of behavior in Kisha/Jen, but Jodi/Christie have shown that they have a sneaky nature, ie, in the Leg 1 train ride from Zurich to Locarno. They didn't inform anyone else, that the older lady was going to switch trains and get to Locarno faster.
I have looked back for another reference, but I don't seem to be able to locate it at the moment. Maybe I was dreaming, but IIRC didn't Jodi try to get Victor/Tammy, in some way, hinder another team previously?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Max on March 02, 2009, 05:03:03 PM
Maybe the blind u-turn means they do not know who they are u-turning, could be the next team to arrive. Not sure.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: apskip on March 02, 2009, 05:09:04 PM
I think a little more information about Ovsyanka is warranted. A tour company gives this half-day tour as part of a 2 day tour of the Krasnoyarsk area:
Visiting the old authentic Ovsyanka village. Siberian izba, museum, church and library. Visiting observation place Tsar Fish.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 02, 2009, 05:35:10 PM
I know this post: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.1075.html quotes the most times unreliable wikipedia. But it does seem like the title could be attributed to M&M now...
"Doing the double" could mean having to do both "i.e. double" detour tasks?
Quote
From wikipedia -
Quote Leg 5 quote's - "They Did The Double On Us!"
Totally sounds like a Mark and Michael quote to me.
From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/double
Quote 4. To replace an actor in the actor's absence or in a certain scene.
Sounds like a stuntman term, since a stuntman.. is sometimes a double.. to help the actors/actresses perform dangerous stunts that they cannot do.. and Mark and Michael are highly to be the team using the term?
And they.. i'm speculating that they are refering to a team who look really alike each other?? Cara and Jaime??
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: booboobooboo on March 02, 2009, 05:36:24 PM
According to this site: http://www.suvenirograd.ru/sights.php?id=650&lang=2
Quote
Church of St. Innocent of Irkutsk in Ovsyanka, which consists of a wooden chapel belfry and a total area of 59.7 square kilometers. m, was built in 1994 on the initiative and with the participation of writer Victor Petrovich Astafijeva.
The author - architect Areg Demirhanov. Other projects of Demirhanov - a librari and church, created at the request Astafijeva in the Ovsyanka.
I searched for the boldened name, and I went to this site:
Writer. Born on May 1, 1924 in the village of Ovsyanka, in the Krasnoyarsk region. In 1942 graduated from the Rail School and worked that year for four months on building a railroad. In 1942 joined the military and went to fight in World War II. Studied at a soldier's school in Novosibirsk in 1942, and in 1943 fought until the end of the war as a soldier. Was given several medals for his bravery at the war.
After the war worked at a railway station, until in the 1950s started writing stories for the Chusovsky Worker. In 1958 became a member of the Soviet Union of Writers, and in 1962 became a professional writer.
Throughout the 1950s and 1960s published books of stories and novels. From 1979 to 1981 four volumes of his collected works was published by the Molodaya Gvardia publishing house.
In 1991 was the Secretary of the Soviet Union of Writers. Died in 2001.
Note the boldened title. It is probable that for the Roadblock, team members had to write the word "Chusovsky Worker" because honestly, Anton Chekhov has no direct link to Krasnoyarsk. What I believe would happen for this leg is:
Teams arrive on Krasnoyarsk RB with speed reading - must form the words Chusovsky Worker Go to place associated with writer of Chusovsky Worker - Orthodox Church in Ovsyanka Detour U-turn afterwards?
I'm going to stick with CHECKOV because it fits the evidence. There is no E in Chusovsky and not enough letter boards to spell out "Chusovsky Worker"
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: NoluckBoston on March 02, 2009, 08:05:50 PM
I don' think this helps or solves anything.
When I look at this picture I wonder if part of the task is to slip the panels into a slot at the top of the podium. I looks like there is a slot at the top.
When I look at this picture I wonder if part of the task is to slip the panels into a slot at the top of the podium. I looks like there is a slot at the top.
Spelling out, as we assume... C H E K H O V
Just thinking out loud.
I think it's interesting too. It makes me wonder (and it's highly unlikely) if anyone does it backwards. :P
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Belle Book on March 02, 2009, 08:13:35 PM
I know this post: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.1075.html quotes the most times unreliable wikipedia. But it does seem like the title could be attributed to M&M now...
"Doing the double" could mean having to do both "i.e. double" detour tasks?
Quote
From wikipedia -
Quote Leg 5 quote's - "They Did The Double On Us!"
Totally sounds like a Mark and Michael quote to me.
From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/double
Quote 4. To replace an actor in the actor's absence or in a certain scene.
Sounds like a stuntman term, since a stuntman.. is sometimes a double.. to help the actors/actresses perform dangerous stunts that they cannot do.. and Mark and Michael are highly to be the team using the term?
And they.. i'm speculating that they are refering to a team who look really alike each other?? Cara and Jaime??
Yeah, maybe Mark & Michael got the U-Turn. Seems like either Christie & Jodi or LaKisha & Jen did it to them, more likely Christie & Jodi.
Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 02, 2009, 08:21:26 PM
I'm just speculating though. I just maybe that the Brothers switched detours is all .. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Max on March 02, 2009, 08:38:09 PM
Still speculating on the term "blind u-turn". Perhaps TPTB mandated that the first team arriving at the u-turn option MUST u-turn a later team--they would then select next, 2nd 3rd, etc. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: NoluckBoston on March 02, 2009, 08:55:49 PM
I did not see this mentioned in the thread but i might have just missed it.
What if the Blind U-turn was this.
If you chose to use the U-turn this season you do not get to chose who you U-turn. Instead you have to reach in and pull someones picture out of a box. Hence the "Blind" part.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 02, 2009, 09:00:17 PM
:welcome2: to RFF Max and Smith!
We do know that of course about the credits, those are both old.
I'm not sure if the term blind would refer to not knowing who you were going to U-turn? OR who you were being U-turned by? Either could be dramatic!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: michael on March 02, 2009, 09:02:28 PM
Well, I don't think you wouldn't know WHO you're u-turning, because that could lead to a possibly very anti-climatic introduction of a "new twist" if the team that chooses to u-turn accidentally pulls the picture of a team ahead of them.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Max on March 02, 2009, 09:09:06 PM
"picture pulling" or "number selecting"--either way would work. This would avoid the neutralizing effect of selecting a team in the forefront (ala Kynt and Vyxsin selecting Don & Nick)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Max on March 02, 2009, 09:17:10 PM
If the first team to arrive at the u-turn MUST select a team to be u-turned, you could not select a team that was ahead of you. Whether it is a random picture pull or a deliberate number select, the result could impact the outcome of the race.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Jobby on March 02, 2009, 09:33:02 PM
I wouldn't like it if a U-TURN becomes compulsory. I'm pretty sure it might just be a team using their U-TURN on another team for no particular reason. That would be pretty blind and stupid. So i can say Tammy and Victor or any of the top pack teams won't get U-TURNed because it would have then be seen as a strategic move and not a "blind" move.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: SingularStars on March 02, 2009, 09:44:15 PM
Does this mean Christie and Jodi are safe this week, if they're somehow in the front of the pack?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Max on March 02, 2009, 09:49:17 PM
Joab,I know we're a little off topic here since this thread is about the next episode--but my personal opinion is that each racing team should use all the devices available to enhance their standing in the race. In the last few seasons racers have demurred from using the u-turn or it's predecessor "the yield" because they did not want to incur any hard feelings. It's a race, you're in it to win! Use whatever is available. And sometimes things have to change to keep things moving and interesting--like each team member doing an equal number of roadblocks. :2cents:
Anyway, it's only speculation.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Jobby on March 02, 2009, 10:02:33 PM
I know, i just don't like it when people play dirty. If you're good you'll be first anyway without having to slow down another team with the U-TURN.. i know you're talking about scenarios where you're in nearly last and wants to put teams further down.. but i'm now talking about if the U-TURN becomes compulsory for the first team reaching the U-TURN mat.. it will be.. pointless and unfair because you're making the top team who has a considerable lead use your U-TURN.. which maybe the team wants to save for future legs for a more strategic use?
I don't think they will force people to U-TURN.. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Max on March 02, 2009, 10:21:48 PM
I do understand your point of view, Joab. I know strategy wise it is better to get the last team out of the way. But the random selection adds an element of surprise and suspense that may not be available otherwise. 'Nuf said. I guess we'll find out what the "blind u-turn" is on Sunday. Can't wait.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 02, 2009, 10:30:54 PM
Maybe the blind U-turn refers to doing both Detours blindfolded. Now that would add an interesting dynamic. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Max on March 02, 2009, 10:32:39 PM
You're right---that would be interesting :lol: :funny:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 02, 2009, 10:37:19 PM
Phil: The U-Turn only shows up once in the race. In this U-Turn, the teams must drive blindfolded to the task. Once there, the blindfolds will remain while both team members saw a log in half.
When they finish that task, the team will once again drive blindfolded to the next Detour where they must walk on hot coals and still keep their blindfolds on. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: NoluckBoston on March 02, 2009, 10:46:57 PM
It would be even harder if it was Luke. Imagine being deaf and blind.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 02, 2009, 10:47:43 PM
It would be hard, but imagine the comedy! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Jobby on March 02, 2009, 10:48:32 PM
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: NoluckBoston on March 02, 2009, 10:49:49 PM
lol you said it not me. I almost said It would be even funnier if it was Luke. Imagine being deaf and blind. But i did not want to get in trouble for laughing at a deaf guy lol
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 02, 2009, 10:52:34 PM
I'm not laughing at the thought of Luke being blindfolded, just the all over idea of a team being blindfolded and doing the detour and what TARAsia wrote ...... :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Jobby on March 02, 2009, 11:00:19 PM
I'm not laughing at the thought of Luke being blindfolded, just the all over idea of a team being blindfolded and doing the detour and what TARAsia wrote ...... :lol:
Yea, i laughed at it. That would literally be a blind U-TURN. The comment with Luke though evil, was hilarious. (Don't mean to be rude.. but it was really funny) :funny:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Max on March 02, 2009, 11:47:49 PM
:shocking: :carryon:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Moo on March 03, 2009, 06:01:38 AM
Hi guys! Based on everything that the press released, even saying that there would be new twists even before this episode, I think of the following
First placer team experiencing dead last - that more or less must have been Margie/Luke, we see Luke struggle so much in the Roadblock, that must have been them, further, I think that the roadblock itself is a first come first served basis, that is why they suffer being last.
And the new twist is not actually new, rather somehow, a modified version of the u-turn where the first team who reaches the u turn marker is forced to make a mandatory u-turn of another, and that they must randomly pick only one team... I may be wrong and it would actually be like K/V u turning N/D in Season 12, or in TARAsia3, G/T u-turning AD/F not because they hate them, rather to gain time...
The new twist may actually be a new twist?... We'll all find out next week...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: gator27 on March 03, 2009, 09:42:10 AM
DURING THE RACE'S FIRST-EVER VISIT TO SIBERIA, TEAMS MUST TRUDGE THROUGH A HARSH RUSSIAN WINTER IN SEARCH OF A FAMOUS PLAYWRIGHT, AND A NEW TWIST LEAVES ONE TEAM FIGHTING FOR THEIR SURVIVAL IN THE GAME, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," MARCH 8 ON CBS
"It Was Like A Caravan Of Idiots" (Siberia) - Teams travel to Siberia, the show's first- ever visit, where a first place team quickly learns how it feels to be last, and when a new twist is revealed, one Team is left scrambling for their survival in the game, on THE AMAZING RACE 14, Sunday, March 8 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Phil Keoghan is host.
...where a first place team quickly learns how it feels to be last...
I think this refers to Tammy & Victor who were in first after leg 2 and are now in last place.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: gator27 on March 03, 2009, 09:50:42 AM
Teams did not arrive in Brasov until 0920 and they had the RAODBLOCK and DETOUR to contend with. With the exception of Brad/Victoria, they should finish at between noon and 4pm. After the pitstop, they have about a 3 hour drive in the middle of the night (more during the day time) to get to Bucharest airport between 3am and 7am. The best route Bucharest to Kransnojarsk after 3am is one of these 3 combinations probably taken by the 3 leading teams:
There are 3 choices for the first flight, OA382 OTP ATH 0940 1115 or OA942 OTP ATH 0945 1205 or TK1444 OTP IST 1050 1215 Second flight is SU296 ATH SVO 1310 1730 or TK1415 IST SVO 1335 1740 Third flight for all 3 is SU779 SVO KJA 1055 0540+1 Note: there are also inferior routes through Paris or Frankfurt requiring leaving earlier.
The next best combination, used probably by all other teams, is: OTP BUD RO9233 1040 1110 BUD DME MA106 1440 1910 Moscow DME Krasnojarsk (KJA) S7071 2220 0645+1
Note for all routes that transportation systems in Russia are set up to funnel through Moscow(logical in the case of goingn from Buchrest to Krasnojarsk but not very logical for Novosibirsk to Delhi.
PitStop arrivals between noon and 4 pm mesh with Chateau's info from the last leg.
Chateau estimated that Mark and Mike hit the PitStop between 2:14 and 2:33 pm.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: gator27 on March 03, 2009, 09:54:24 AM
Blind U-Turn
While at the PitStop, an unmarked envelope containing the identity (picture) of a team that must complete the U-Turn on the next leg was chosen. Teams must now race quicker in case they were blindly chosen as the ones to complete the U-Turn.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Jobby on March 03, 2009, 10:04:11 AM
While at the PitStop, an unmarked envelope containing the identity (picture) of a team that must complete the U-Turn on the next leg was chosen. Teams must now race quicker in case they were blindly chosen as the ones to complete the U-Turn.
Is this official? A sudden thought came into my mind, i think only in the case when a U-TURN is unused (all teams chose not to utilise their U-TURN), then it will become a "blind" U-TURN, where teams will draw lots (marked envelop) to see who will complete the U-TURN for the next leg. :ascared
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Chateau d If on March 03, 2009, 10:33:54 AM
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Chateau estimated that Mark and Mike hit the PitStop between 2:14 and 2:33 pm.
I may have to redo this.
I made a fundamental mistake and that is when getting time from Solar altitude you have to consider that the sun could be either going up or going down when it is shining form the angle determined. Soo .... That arrival time may well end up being on the other side of noon. More analysis is in the works so stay tuned.
I saw that Kris & Mander completed the Detour at 10:38 am according to the Randy Jackson sized wristwatch on Kris.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: gator27 on March 03, 2009, 10:58:10 AM
While at the PitStop, an unmarked envelope containing the identity (picture) of a team that must complete the U-Turn on the next leg was chosen. Teams must now race quicker in case they were blindly chosen as the ones to complete the U-Turn.
Is this official? A sudden thought came into my mind, i think only in the case when a U-TURN is unused (all teams chose not to utilise their U-TURN), then it will become a "blind" U-TURN, where teams will draw lots (marked envelop) to see who will complete the U-TURN for the next leg. :ascared
Not even close to official. ;D
Just offering my opinions
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: woden on March 03, 2009, 12:59:52 PM
Here's a guess that after unscrambling "Chekhov," teams find the Krasnoyarsk-based cruise ship bearing his name. This would get them to the river area before the detour options. Or if the roadblock is after the detour, this could be a pitstop possibility...
http://raytour.com/html/cruises/Krasnoyarsk_Dudinka.html "The unique cruise Krasnoyarsk-Dudinka goes along the Yenisei river, one of the biggest rivers in the world. The tourists will know about the nature of the Krasnoyarsk Territory and visit the towns: Yeniseisk, Turukhansk, Igarka, Dudinka. Besides, there wilt be the so-called "green stops" where you will see the wild nature of Siberia. You will see the Angara river and the polar day, polar rainbow and tundra in full. "Anton Chekhov" - one of the most comfortable russian ships built in Austria in 1978. European quality service, every cabin with WC, shower, bath, air conditioning. Restaurant, bar, cinema, library, swimming pool, sauna. MS "A.Chekhov" was built in Korniburg, Austria in 1978."
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: apskip on March 03, 2009, 01:07:04 PM
Chateau estimated that Mark and Mike hit the PitStop between 2:14 and 2:33 pm.
I may have to redo this.
I made a fundamental mistake and that is when getting time from Solar altitude you have to consider that the sun could be either going up or going down when it is shining form the angle determined. Soo .... That arrival time may well end up being on the other side of noon. More analysis is in the works so stay tuned.
I saw that Kris & Mander completed the Detour at 10:38 am according to the Randy Jackson sized wristwatch on Kris.
Chateau, I hate to state the obvious, but are you saying that with all the tasks once teams did in Brasov and the Bran area (which is 24 km away), any team was able to complete them before noon? The 630am train from Bucharest Nord did not arrive until 922am!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 03, 2009, 01:19:46 PM
Here's a guess that after unscrambling "Chekhov," teams find the Krasnoyarsk-based cruise ship bearing his name. This would get them to the river area before the detour options. Or if the roadblock is after the detour, this could be a pitstop possibility...
http://raytour.com/html/cruises/Krasnoyarsk_Dudinka.html "The unique cruise Krasnoyarsk-Dudinka goes along the Yenisei river, one of the biggest rivers in the world. The tourists will know about the nature of the Krasnoyarsk Territory and visit the towns: Yeniseisk, Turukhansk, Igarka, Dudinka. Besides, there wilt be the so-called "green stops" where you will see the wild nature of Siberia. You will see the Angara river and the polar day, polar rainbow and tundra in full. "Anton Chekhov" - one of the most comfortable russian ships built in Austria in 1978. European quality service, every cabin with WC, shower, bath, air conditioning. Restaurant, bar, cinema, library, swimming pool, sauna. MS "A.Chekhov" was built in Korniburg, Austria in 1978."
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: woden on March 03, 2009, 01:43:05 PM
Hmm, Puddin, after seeing your site, I think my info might have been out of date...
From your page: "For many years the ship was traveling along the exotic route on Yenisey River in Siberia and starting 2004 it will be used on the most popular Russian cruise line Moscow St. Petersburg."
Although, here's a 2007 article (http://www.departures.com/articles/russia-2007-were-off-to-see-gulag) that says the Anton Chekhov is transporting tourists to the old gulag camps, starting in Krasnoyarsk.
Who knows. :groan:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Chateau d If on March 03, 2009, 02:10:02 PM
Chateau estimated that Mark and Mike hit the PitStop between 2:14 and 2:33 pm.
I may have to redo this.
I made a fundamental mistake and that is when getting time from Solar altitude you have to consider that the sun could be either going up or going down when it is shining form the angle determined. Soo .... That arrival time may well end up being on the other side of noon. More analysis is in the works so stay tuned.
I saw that Kris & Mander completed the Detour at 10:38 am according to the Randy Jackson sized wristwatch on Kris.
Chateau, I hate to state the obvious, but are you saying that with all the tasks once teams did in Brasov and the Bran area (which is 24 km away), any team was able to complete them before noon? The 630am train from Bucharest Nord did not arrive until 922am!
Sure:
Task Dur Start End train to Brasov 9:22 get off train 1 9:22 9:23 get to taxi 1 9:23 9:24 negociate fare 2 9:24 9:26 taxi to Black Church 13 9:26 9:39 run to cluebox 1 9:39 9:40 read clue 1 9:40 9:41 taxi to Gypse detour 40 9:41 10:21 load junk 7 10:21 10:28 pet pony 1 10:28 10:29 roll 300 yards 6 10:29 10:35 unload junk 3 10:35 10:38
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 03, 2009, 02:24:14 PM
Hmm, Puddin, after seeing your site, I think my info might have been out of date...
From your page: "For many years the ship was traveling along the exotic route on Yenisey River in Siberia and starting 2004 it will be used on the most popular Russian cruise line Moscow St. Petersburg."
Although, here's a 2007 article (http://www.departures.com/articles/russia-2007-were-off-to-see-gulag) that says the Anton Chekhov is transporting tourists to the old gulag camps, starting in Krasnoyarsk.
Who knows. :groan:
*tempted to write forced labor joke, but political prisons aren't funny*
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: gator27 on March 03, 2009, 02:30:08 PM
Task Dur Start End train to Brasov 9:22 get off train 1 9:22 9:23 get to taxi 1 9:23 9:24 negociate fare 2 9:24 9:26 taxi to Black Church 13 9:26 9:39 run to cluebox 1 9:39 9:40 read clue 1 9:40 9:41 taxi to Gypse detour 40 9:41 10:21 load junk 7 10:21 10:28 pet pony 1 10:28 10:29 roll 300 yards 6 10:29 10:35 unload junk 3 10:35 10:38
Lucky pony!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: gator27 on March 03, 2009, 02:39:50 PM
Is the spelling of Chekov different in Cyrillic (spelling?)? If so, can anyone post Chekov in Cyrillic?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 03, 2009, 02:48:33 PM
Is the spelling of Chekov different in Cyrillic (spelling?)? If so, can anyone post Chekov in Cyrillic?
From wiki Анто́н Па́влович Че́хов / Antòn Pàvlovič Chéchov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Chekhov
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: raim on March 03, 2009, 02:56:55 PM
I have to think that the "blind" u-turn needs to be taken almost literally. I think it would be so insensitive of TPTB to call something blind when they have a deaf contestant, unless it actually refers to being "blinded". Perhaps the U-Turn team has to select a member to be blindfolded for the task, or even both although TARAsia is right that this would be really unfair for Luke and Margie. Are TPTB so insensitive as to introduce this term this season of all seasons? I guess only time will tell....
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: CrazyForKahlen on March 03, 2009, 03:44:27 PM
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Are TPTB so insensitive as to introduce this term this season of all seasons?
You are forgetting how often they talked about winning a leg in Sarah's season :funny:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 03, 2009, 08:36:33 PM
Quote from: Apskip
I think a little more information about Ovsyanka is warranted. A tour company gives this half-day tour as part of a 2 day tour of the Krasnoyarsk area:
Visiting the old authentic Ovsyanka village. Siberian izba, museum, church and library. Visiting observation place Tsar Fish.
Not much to say, your description just about covered it. Ovsyanka ("oatmeal") started out a settlement guarding the approach to Krasnoyarsk. The Tsar Fish (http://wikimapia.org/4843689/ru/%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BC%D1%8F%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA-%D0%A6%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8C-%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%B1%D0%B5), on a overlook east of the village, is a reference to the most famous work of favorite-son author Victor Astafiev.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 04, 2009, 02:12:49 AM
:groan: I give up..
65 writers gave their names to streets, lanes, passages in Irkutsk. For example, there are streets of Gorkii and Herzen, Goncharov and Dostoevskii, Chekhov
Or let us take A.P.Chekhov. He wrote about Irkutsk from his own experience. The memorial board on the house, along the street Furye, 1, reminds us of Chekhovs staying on June 6, 1890 in the hotel "the Amur yard" to rest on the way to the Sakhalin island. The writer liked the city very much. ... www.manus.baikal.ru/eng/es19.htm
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 04, 2009, 09:47:38 AM
Or there's Ensign Chekov from Star Trek! :P
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Neobie on March 04, 2009, 10:19:34 AM
Can anyone decipher what Mark means in the cab? (Cheers to Puddin for helping me out with that video!)
Quote from: Mark
We're leaving/leading in first place with Jennifer and Kisha and Jodi and Christie. And everybody else actually got stuck back in the other airport.
"The other airport" suggests they're using different airports out of Moscow, not a surprise since Domodedovo, Sheremtyevo and Vnukovo alternate best flights to Krasnojarsk. But are Mark and Michael in a cab going from one Moscow airport to another, or have they already arrived in Krasnojarsk?
Answering this question may help us figure out: > Whether it was dark when the lead teams get to Moscow > Whether Bran was an extended Pit Stop > The flights available from Bucharest to Krasnojarsk > The lead Mark/Michael have over the other teams > When/whether Victor/Tammy get saved by bunching > How long teams spend in Russia > Whether the Jaipur leg was one day or two > Are there likely to be stragglers going into Phuket > How many teams get to Phuket
:groan: I've looked at shots of "the other airport", but I'm going nowhere! I can rule out Sheremtyevo, but it has similarities to all of Bucharest, Domodedovo and Vnukovo...
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep4/rff-0007-1.jpg) (http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6516/captureknu.jpg) Or Bucharest Airport? (Long lights instead of circular ones, yellow on black and white on blue signs)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 04, 2009, 11:04:27 AM
Nice work Neobie ... so many questions!
Commercial during TPIR (video later)
VoiceOver: exhaustion has set in Luke: argghhhhhhhhhh Margie: hes getting very frustrated..I want to help him but I can't
Michael & Mark walking down the street Michael: this is going to take all day VO: Now, can the teams come together in time? Mike & Mel conf (from ep1): some how were going to survive this race ...for a game changing twist?
Tammy watching Victor on the flume thingy: you got it! Michael & Mark: Who got U-Turned? Shots of the Blind U-Turn
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 04, 2009, 11:16:07 AM
There's the evidence of the Blind U-Turn. It's going to be interesting to find out what that means.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 04, 2009, 11:33:42 AM
What if the team that gets Blind U-Turned has to U-Turn the very next team as well?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 04, 2009, 11:34:29 AM
After watching the White's stack fall, I'd be surprised if they didn't switch. Fwiw, Siberian shutters are often ornate (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yokels/1386020141/).
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 04, 2009, 11:58:35 AM
Heres the video of the commercial when ready
OKAY Mike tells Michael & Mark: WE GOT U-TURNED
<< HQ toggle when it kicks in
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Max on March 04, 2009, 12:00:21 PM
What if the Blind U-turn means ALL the teams must do the other task?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Zack. on March 04, 2009, 12:02:04 PM
There isn't a 'Courtesy of' spot on the sticker either; I think it means that if a team uses it, they have to U-Turn the next team that reaches it.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 04, 2009, 12:05:09 PM
What if the Blind U-turn means ALL the teams must do the other task?
That could be it, the teams behind the team that U-Turns all have to do the other Detour option "can the teams come together in time for a game changing twist.."
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: gator27 on March 04, 2009, 12:52:00 PM
What if the Blind U-turn means ALL the teams must do the other task?
That could be it, the teams behind the team that U-Turns all have to do the other Detour option "can the teams come together in time for a game changing twist.."
I do not think one team gets to U-Turn another. I like the idea of multiple teams being U-Turned. Maybe all the Teams are U-Turned and it is a slight advantage to stack wood after the shutter task ... or vice versa.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 04, 2009, 01:26:55 PM
I think when the first team hits the U-Turn, that team must turn around and do both Detours and then passes the U-Turn down. That's one way it could be a "Blind U-Turn".
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: michael on March 04, 2009, 01:37:19 PM
I think when the first team hits the U-Turn, that team must turn around and do both Detours and then passes the U-Turn down. That's one way it could be a "Blind U-Turn".
which would also explain the clue about a 1st place team knowing what it's like to be in last?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: apskip on March 04, 2009, 02:10:00 PM
Neobie,
I have been in the Sheremetveyo Airport (16 years ago and I do not remember it much) and in Bucharest airport 7 months ago (which I do remember well), but never in Vnukovo airport. I think that the pictures fit Bucharest better.
I got confusing results by putting in one Moscow airport at a time, but when I entered "All of them" I got a different picture. There are 3 flights on thursdays from Sheremetyevo to Krasnojarsk. There are 2 flights from Domodedovo. There is even one from Vnukovo. Several of these are just after midnight, which would not be feasible for any team on Nov. 6 since teams have to get to Moscow first and I expect the earliest release to be around midnight if there is no Extended Pit Stop. On Friday Nov. 7 there were 2 flights from SVO, 2 from DME and 1 from VKO.
On Nov. 6 there is only one nonstop from OTP to Sheremeteveyo, but several to both SVO and DME and none to VKO. On Friday Nov. 7 I see no nonstops but an ample number of flight combinations to either SVO or DME, but not VKO.
So, the bottom line is that a cross-Moscow taxi ride is not impossible but it is unlikely. The more likely outcome is that the taxi ride is in Krasnojarsk or even Bucharest.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: gator27 on March 04, 2009, 02:10:30 PM
I think when the first team hits the U-Turn, that team must turn around and do both Detours and then passes the U-Turn down. That's one way it could be a "Blind U-Turn".
which would also explain the clue about a 1st place team knowing what it's like to be in last?
Great interpretation!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: woden on March 04, 2009, 02:23:11 PM
Puddin - sounds like someone asking "who got U-turned?" to me... ?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Chateau d If on March 04, 2009, 02:26:52 PM
Since everybody is doing it I will make my guess for Blind U-Turning:
The Team that implements the U-turn designates who is U-Turned.
They do not post their own picture. That is why it is 'blind'.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 04, 2009, 02:27:22 PM
Puddin - sounds like someone asking "who got U-turned?" to me... ?
Mike might say "you" but I think they, Mike & Mel were U-Turned as well Kris & Amanda and whoever else...howeverthehellitworks
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: DrRox on March 04, 2009, 03:04:04 PM
Maybe the "Blind U-turn" means every one has to do the other detour option, or maybe just some of the next clue envelopes contain the "Blind U-turn." It might just depend on which envelope they pull out of the clue box. Sort of like a lottery. You don't know you get it, till you open the clue.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2009, 03:19:01 PM
Puddin - sounds like someone asking "who got U-turned?" to me... ?
Mike might say "you" but I think they, Mike & Mel were U-Turned as well Kris & Amanda and whoever else...howeverthehellitworks
its deff who got u-turned.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 04, 2009, 03:46:30 PM
:umn: Maybe they don't know "who" got U-Turned until the one detour option is complete? That sure would put some pressure on! So if Mike/Mel Mark/Michael Kris/Amanda switched detours, I guess? then they have to go back and complete the one that they skipped? I dunno :funny: :pull but thanks TPTB for giving us something to talk about!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Chateau d If on March 04, 2009, 06:43:46 PM
If this helps sort out the U-Turning: In this shot Mike & Mel are headed back to the wooden church where they all get the initial Detour information.
If this helps sort out the U-Turning: In this shot Mike & Mel are headed back to the wooden church where they all get the initial Detour information.
:tup: you can see the cluebox
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: NoluckBoston on March 04, 2009, 08:17:19 PM
"I've looked at shots of "the other airport", but I'm going nowhere! I can rule out Sheremtyevo, but it has similarities to all of Bucharest, Domodedovo and Vnukovo..." Neobie
I think all three shots are Bucharest. Here are a few I found.
I found this picture of a sculpture at the airport. Notice the Metal flashin on the corners of the columns.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: apskip on March 04, 2009, 08:50:42 PM
I have found it (Eureka in Greece)! The word Beszallas does not tranlate into Romanian or Russian. There are only a few more possibilities for connecting airports. It does translate into Hungarian, and means "Embarkation" which is pretty close to the English "To Gates". That picture must be in Budapest as Hungarian is not used in airports outside of Transylvania or Hungary.
It occured to me that maybe we are looking at a Brasov aiport, but the closest airport to Brasov is Bucharest. Also, this does not look like a Brasov train station. That leads me ot the conclusion that we are looking at the Budapest airport. One of the options from Bucharest to Moscow-Domodedovo connects through Budapest. Those flights on NOv. 7 only are MA857 OTP BUD 0615 0630 (Budapest is one hour behind Bucharest; it's not a 15 minute flight) to MA104 BUD DME 0850 1320. That would allow teams to connect at DME to S7 071 DME KJA 2220 0645 or to take a taxi ride across Moscow to Vnukovo airport (UT571 2040 0600) or Sheremetyevo airport (SU779 2055 0540) to get there up to one hour earlier.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2009, 09:19:10 PM
Nice work guys!! :jumpy:
I love watching y'all build on each other, great teamwork!! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 04, 2009, 10:07:42 PM
I think all three shots are Bucharest. Here are a few I found.
The floors and ceilings are a good match NoLuck :tup:
Henri Coandă International Airport
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 04, 2009, 10:40:14 PM
As well as the red/white "forbidden" sign matching up. Looks good, Boston. Is it possible the "other airport" remark could be a Otopeni vs. Baneasa issue?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: michael on March 05, 2009, 12:58:15 AM
:umn: Maybe they don't know "who" got U-Turned until the one detour option is complete? That sure would put some pressure on! So if Mike/Mel Mark/Michael Kris/Amanda switched detours, I guess? then they have to go back and complete the one that they skipped? I dunno :funny: :pull but thanks TPTB for giving us something to talk about!
The u-turn is always after one detour is already complete anyways isn't it? You finish the detour and then before the next route marker or at the end of the detour there is a u-turn.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Coutzy on March 05, 2009, 01:11:01 AM
Looking at it, it just looks like if somebody gets U-Turned, they won't know who did it to them.
If this is correct, the bigger question will be whether or not they have to surrender their "courtesy of" sticker.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 05, 2009, 01:19:55 AM
:umn: Maybe they don't know "who" got U-Turned until the one detour option is complete? That sure would put some pressure on! So if Mike/Mel Mark/Michael Kris/Amanda switched detours, I guess? then they have to go back and complete the one that they skipped? I dunno :funny: :pull but thanks TPTB for giving us something to talk about!
The u-turn is always after one detour is already complete anyways isn't it? You finish the detour and then before the next route marker or at the end of the detour there is a u-turn.
That works for me :funny:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: michael on March 05, 2009, 01:32:17 AM
:umn: Maybe they don't know "who" got U-Turned until the one detour option is complete? That sure would put some pressure on! So if Mike/Mel Mark/Michael Kris/Amanda switched detours, I guess? then they have to go back and complete the one that they skipped? I dunno :funny: :pull but thanks TPTB for giving us something to talk about!
The u-turn is always after one detour is already complete anyways isn't it? You finish the detour and then before the next route marker or at the end of the detour there is a u-turn.
That works for me :funny:
I will not explain to you again how a u-turn works LOL :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 05, 2009, 01:38:08 AM
:umn: Maybe they don't know "who" got U-Turned until the one detour option is complete? That sure would put some pressure on! So if Mike/Mel Mark/Michael Kris/Amanda switched detours, I guess? then they have to go back and complete the one that they skipped? I dunno :funny: :pull but thanks TPTB for giving us something to talk about!
The u-turn is always after one detour is already complete anyways isn't it? You finish the detour and then before the next route marker or at the end of the detour there is a u-turn.
That works for me :funny:
I will not explain to you again how a u-turn works LOL :lol:
Well this is a special "blind" U-Turn so :neener: :carryon:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: booboobooboo on March 05, 2009, 06:22:03 AM
What if they pull their own name out of the blind u-turn box?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Moo on March 05, 2009, 06:42:35 AM
With the blind u-turn being shown so much, in promos, in commercials, not even reaching the real episode this sunday, I'm 75% sure that it's an elimination leg. :'(
I also guess that someone's surely u-turned. :yess: We just have to figure it out by the spoilers...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: apskip on March 05, 2009, 09:01:58 AM
As well as the red/white "forbidden" sign matching up. Looks good, Boston. Is it possible the "other airport" remark could be a Otopeni vs. Baneasa issue?
Slowhatch, there is one flight out of Banaesa to Vienna which connects there to Moscow-DME. I actually see that the 930am flight listed in my recent Timelines posting is from Baneasa and not Otopeni airport in Bucharest(I missed that until you raised this issue). That is the second of 3 flight combinations that get to SVO or second of two to DME.
Although it is possible, I do not conisder it likely that any teams went to Banaesa. It is a considerably smaller airport.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 05, 2009, 01:51:35 PM
With the blind u-turn being shown so much, in promos, in commercials, not even reaching the real episode this sunday, I'm 75% sure that it's an elimination leg. :'(
I also guess that someone's surely u-turned. :yess: We just have to figure it out by the spoilers...
99.9% sure a team WILL be eliminated! 100% sure per clues that a team is Blind U-Turned. << how ever that works :groan:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: michael on March 05, 2009, 01:55:35 PM
With the blind u-turn being shown so much, in promos, in commercials, not even reaching the real episode this sunday, I'm 75% sure that it's an elimination leg. :'(
I also guess that someone's surely u-turned. :yess: We just have to figure it out by the spoilers...
99.9% sure a team WILL be eliminated! 100% sure per clues that a team is Blind U-Turned. << how ever that works :groan:
GOOOO TAMMY AND VICTOR!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Ashe on March 05, 2009, 02:24:57 PM
With the blind u-turn being shown so much, in promos, in commercials, not even reaching the real episode this sunday, I'm 75% sure that it's an elimination leg. :'(
I also guess that someone's surely u-turned. :yess: We just have to figure it out by the spoilers...
99.9% sure a team WILL be eliminated! 100% sure per clues that a team is Blind U-Turned. << how ever that works :groan:
GOOOO TAMMY AND VICTOR!
What are you talking about?! . . . Oh, I get it. Never mind.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: honeybee on March 05, 2009, 02:30:21 PM
This shot was taken between 8:20 and 8:40 am (assumes November 8th).
Probably an hours of operation delay and the Roadblock is the first task of the leg.
I have a few comments to make:
- I do think that this shot was taken early in the morning, but it could have been shot before any teams had even arrived in Siberia, for promotional purposes/added shots. Later, all of the shots of teams in the carts are from a camera attached to the front of the cart looking back at them. So this time does not necessarily mean that is when they performed the roadblock.
- In fact, I was trying also to determine if the roadblock or detour comes first by looking at the sky. In some shots of the roadblock with Luke in the cart you can see little breaks of sky, and during the detour shots everything looks cloudy with no breaks. Maybe the roadblock is later in the day when the sun tried to break through a little bit?
- Also in the cab ride where Mark/Michael say they have a lead, it is dark. But both the roadblock & detour have plenty of light, so I think it is very possible that the other teams catch up to the other three, taking away their lead.
- I agree that in the commercial it sounds like "WHO got u-turned", but if not mistaken it sounds very much like Mark's voice to me. In which case Mike pointing behind him could very well be Amanda & Kris. Considering Mel & Mike's entire woodpile tumbling to the ground I would not be surprised if they switched detours at that moment.
Looking at it, it just looks like if somebody gets U-Turned, they won't know who did it to them.
- Definitely only room on that sign for one big picture. I think that the team can pick whomever they want, but since they don't have to post their picture (so no one knows who did it to them) it is "blind". I didn't look it up, but if I remember correctly, no one used the U-turn on anyone last season, right? No one wanted to hurt feelings or have karma to play itself out, so I bet the producers thought it might get used if no one knows who did it. However I'm sure then teams will start speculating conspiracy theories...
- Notice we have no shots of either Amanda or Kris performing the roadblock. Maybe on purpose?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: apskip on March 06, 2009, 07:08:30 AM
Michael, Of course you don't specify where you want Tammy and Victor to go. It's not nice to root against a team by rooting for them. Surely the reality TV gods will see through your strategy and make your mocking wish for Tammy and Victor really come true in a good way.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Snooky on March 06, 2009, 12:19:40 PM
Michael, Of course you don't specify where you want Tammy and Victor to go. It's not nice to root against a team by rooting for them. Surely the reality TV gods will see through your strategy and make your mocking wish for Tammy and Victor really come true in a good way.
I think the same way with Nick and Starr... It doesn't really work. :lol:
Since it is such a BLIND u-turn could Margie and Luke U-turn Cara and Jamie or the other way around?.... Maybe not.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 06, 2009, 06:13:34 PM
Thanks Phil!! Phil traveled about 24 hours straight Teams flying in *tonight*
The Amazing Race 14 - Phil's Diary: Episode 4
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 06, 2009, 06:32:25 PM
Mary's cute!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Zack. on March 06, 2009, 07:49:22 PM
Michael, Of course you don't specify where you want Tammy and Victor to go. It's not nice to root against a team by rooting for them. Surely the reality TV gods will see through your strategy and make your mocking wish for Tammy and Victor really come true in a good way.
But it's Michael. The reality TV gods hate him.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Jobby on March 06, 2009, 09:02:45 PM
With the blind u-turn being shown so much, in promos, in commercials, not even reaching the real episode this sunday, I'm 75% sure that it's an elimination leg. :'(
I also guess that someone's surely u-turned. :yess: We just have to figure it out by the spoilers...
99.9% sure a team WILL be eliminated! 100% sure per clues that a team is Blind U-Turned. << how ever that works :groan:
GOOOO TAMMY AND VICTOR!
:funny:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Snooky on March 06, 2009, 09:14:36 PM
With the blind u-turn being shown so much, in promos, in commercials, not even reaching the real episode this sunday, I'm 75% sure that it's an elimination leg. :'(
I also guess that someone's surely u-turned. :yess: We just have to figure it out by the spoilers...
99.9% sure a team WILL be eliminated! 100% sure per clues that a team is Blind U-Turned. << how ever that works :groan:
GOOOO TAMMY AND VICTOR!
:funny:
Let's just hope! :funny: )-**
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Chateau d If on March 06, 2009, 10:11:01 PM
Hey Everybody!
Meet BAZ !!! :jumpy:
(remember the white board from last season!)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: michael on March 07, 2009, 12:17:21 AM
Michael, Of course you don't specify where you want Tammy and Victor to go. It's not nice to root against a team by rooting for them. Surely the reality TV gods will see through your strategy and make your mocking wish for Tammy and Victor really come true in a good way.
GOOOO APSKIP! WIN RFF!
see it make sence in the afterm ath of the bar haha
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 07, 2009, 10:55:39 AM
99.9% sure a team WILL be eliminated! 100% sure per clues that a team is Blind U-Turned. << how ever that works :groan:
:carryon:
Thursday, March 12, 2009
'Amazing Race' Eliminated Couple: It's Bonnie's favorite reality show and this most recently eliminated couple is here. Hear about all the things that happened off-camera.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Snooky on March 07, 2009, 02:40:44 PM
Christie and Jodi are on the first flight, so they may u-turn someone. They may be the first ones there. We of course know that they aren't u-turned. I don't see who would u-turn them anyway.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 07, 2009, 02:59:23 PM
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: gator27 on March 07, 2009, 03:27:44 PM
Does CBS just like to mess with group? You're headed one way and then you get different evidence and start thinking something else. In the end, it does make watching TAR more entertaining.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: honeybee on March 07, 2009, 05:43:55 PM
Agreed. Here I thought Christie & Jodi might be eliminated this leg. But those shots of them at the blind U-turn surely do throw off that suspicion! What is that at Jodi's feetat the u-turn? It looks maybe like the pictures of the other teams, maybe they are trying to decide who to u-turn. Also in the wood-stacking shots with Christie/Jodi it doesn't look like any of the stacks behind them have been completed or even started.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Belle Book on March 07, 2009, 05:54:26 PM
Well, at least that reassures me that Christie & Jodi won't be out this leg! That leaves us with two possibilities: LaKisha & Jen, who are known to have made it to Siberia, and Amanda & Kris.
Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 07, 2009, 07:07:34 PM
heres that extended commercial , I was hoping to get a better copy.
<< HQ option
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 07, 2009, 07:25:48 PM
Thanks, Puddin.
Quote from: Jodi
Your turn...
I had some guesses about how the blind u-turn would work, but they were wrong. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Jobby on March 07, 2009, 08:32:19 PM
Well, at least that reassures me that Christie & Jodi won't be out this leg! That leaves us with two possibilities: LaKisha & Jen, who are known to have made it to Siberia, and Amanda & Kris.
Belle Book
I always thought Mark and Michael had no solid spoilers and they might be out as well? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Ashe on March 08, 2009, 01:42:40 AM
I'm starting to think Jaime & Cara might be the team who gets U-Turned, just based on Jaime's panic when their wall falls down. And I also fear it might be Christie & Jodi who U-Turn them after the reveal in the episode three Insider videos that Jaime & Cara don't like them.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: ImANewUser on March 08, 2009, 03:03:54 AM
If they show the Christie/Jodi and Jaime/Cara tension at the start of next leg, then we can safely assume that there will be U-Turn-involved drama between the two.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Ashe on March 08, 2009, 04:35:36 AM
If they show the Christie/Jodi and Jaime/Cara tension at the start of next leg, then we can safely assume that there will be U-Turn-involved drama between the two.
I don't know about that. They showed absolutely no tension between Shana & Jennifer and Lorena & Jason in TAR12, but the former still U-Turned the latter.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: gator27 on March 08, 2009, 08:10:19 AM
Maybe the Blind U-Turn is like a version of the Fast Forward. The first Team to arrive at the bU-Turn effectively U-Turns everyone behind them.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: gator27 on March 08, 2009, 08:27:14 AM
Next On The Amazing Race It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots (Siberia) One team hits another with a Blind U-turn sending shockwaves throughout the Race and teams must make it through a Russian winter.
I think my above posting ^^^ is stupid. :groan:
Carry on.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: gator27 on March 08, 2009, 12:20:44 PM
Time change!
I hope everyone remembered to set their clocks forward 1 hour. Otherwise you might be tuning into tonight's show just in time to see the previews for next week.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: littlewop on March 08, 2009, 12:25:34 PM
Okay a newbie here, so be nice please...LOL My take on this week...the blind u-turn, is simply a u-turn and the "blind" part is you don't know who u-turned you. I think since C/J, M/M, and L/J are ahead of the others, one of them uses the u-turn on another. C/J uses it on M/M. Mel & Mike and Amanda & Kris simply switch tasks because their piles keep falling. Since we have no further evidence of Amanda & Kris, I think they are the ones to be eliminated. But then again Lakisha & Jen aren't shown in any of the promos doing the detour yet, maybe CBS is holding out on us, so it could be them that are u-turned and eliminated. Any thoughts, comments?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: littlewop on March 08, 2009, 12:28:19 PM
I am terrible with the Air/train timetables. Has it been established how far behind the first group of 3 the others are? Thanks
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 08, 2009, 01:24:57 PM
You can check out the latest timeline update here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17791.msg381218.html#msg381218) littlewop. It looks like Neobie might have the lead teams 65 minutes ahead of the rest of the pack. I'm not sure who U-Turns who but my guess would be one of the female teams use the U-Turn and the team that is U-Turned will be the team eliminated...sadly :(
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: mswood on March 08, 2009, 01:32:32 PM
I hope everyone remembered to set their clocks forward 1 hour. Otherwise you might be tuning into tonight's show just in time to see the previews for next week.
Thank you Gator27 I completely forgot!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 08, 2009, 02:18:28 PM
Helloooooooo Margie
and if anyone cares ...I HATE BASKETBALL!!!!!!!!! :knuckles:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Hooky on March 08, 2009, 02:36:10 PM
I'm not ready to see Amanda & Kris leave us! Send home Kisha & Jen instead! :snicker:
Oh well, I knew it would come eventually. But it will still be a tough pill to swallow. :(
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2009, 02:43:43 PM
Want to guess the time?? :funny:
Thanks puddin for suffering through basketball to bring us the videos! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Snooky on March 08, 2009, 02:48:08 PM
I'm not ready to see Amanda & Kris leave us! Send home Kisha & Jen instead! :snicker:
Oh well, I knew it would come eventually. But it will still be a tough pill to swallow. :(
No the sisters are great! haha I don't want any team to go! I'm still depressed about Brad & Victoria ...gosh :'( .. Years ago I use to not care which team went as long as a team went .....that was for game purposes only. Now that I am not playing the games I realized that these ARE real, amazing people and its hard to let any team go :crybabe:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: gator27 on March 08, 2009, 02:52:44 PM
Golf I can take but Basketball triple headers are THEE WORST :umn: (:;)
Years ago I use to not care which team went as long as a team went .....that was for game purposes only. Now that I am not playing the games I realized that these ARE real, amazing people and its hard to let any team go :crybabe:
I love the tripleheaders! This is my time of year with the basketball and the beginning of the baseball season, plus The Masters! And I've been noticing in the last three posts, I keep using exclamation points! I have to stop that!
Anyway, the basketball overruns are good for us, not as good as NFL overruns, but they help too! More exclamation points! Nooooo!!!!! :groan:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 08, 2009, 03:33:08 PM
I like "boogity boogity boogity" much better and thats pretty sad :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 08, 2009, 03:34:15 PM
I don't quite get the "chi" of NASCAR, but then again, there's a lot of things I don't get. My goodness! The string of exclamation points stopped!!!! But they've started up again!!!! Damn!!! :groan:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Kogs on March 08, 2009, 03:38:02 PM
I don't quite get the "chi" of NASCAR, but then again, there's a lot of things I don't get. My goodness! The string of exclamation points stopped!!!! But they've started up again!!!! Damn!!! :groan:
nascar= non athletic sad clueless american rednecks
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Belle Book on March 08, 2009, 03:40:14 PM
I kind of eliminated Mark & Michael because there were some rumors that they might've made a plane to Guillin, China. Besides, they're rumored to be in the same group as Christie & Jodi and LaKisha & Jen, which is apparently the first group.
Now that I think of it, that makes LaKisha & Jen an unlikely team to be eliminated as well. So I'm now going with Amanda & Kris, since they're apparently in the second group and the others in the second group all make it farther than Siberia.
BTW, I don't really want Amanda & Kris to go either, but I either like or am neutral on all the teams left (even Tammy & Victor), so it's hard to pick a team I really want to see go home. That's a switch for me -- normally there's at least one team I can't wait to see go home!
Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Snooky on March 08, 2009, 04:10:20 PM
It could always be a surprise like the elimination of Kisha and Jen! Why am I trying to stay positive? :'(
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Ashe on March 08, 2009, 04:40:36 PM
Are we sure someone's getting eliminated? With two Siberia legs, I'm pretty sure this leg will actually be an NEL, with next week being capped off with an elimination.
If someone does get eliminated, though, then yeah, I'll say Amanda & Kris. Or Kisha & Jen, since neither had any evidence of a sighting beyond Siberia. I'd also throw in Christie & Jodi, but they seem to be in first on this leg.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2009, 04:57:30 PM
It is hard to have an eliminated team on the Bonnie Hunt Show if there is no elimination, right? :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Kogs on March 08, 2009, 05:07:33 PM
It is hard to have an eliminated team on the Bonnie Hunt Show if there is no elimination, right? :lol:
my direct guide has this
Quote
Teams travel to Siberia, where a first-place team finds out how it feels to be in last place; one team scrambles for survival when a new twist is revealed; one team is eliminated.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Moo on March 08, 2009, 07:03:32 PM
Of all people, its Margie and Luke who is making a blind u-turn!?!?!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Moo on March 08, 2009, 07:29:55 PM
By far the best episode of the amazing race!! WOOHOO!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Ashe on March 08, 2009, 11:33:39 PM
By far the best episode of the amazing race!! WOOHOO!
I agree, due to two things: the surprising winners and the equally-surprising losers!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Ashe on March 08, 2009, 11:47:54 PM
I am shocked. Just . . . shocked. With two legs in Siberia, I really figured that one would be a non-elimination leg. But when Amanda & Kris gave their confessional how sure of themselves they were (being young and fit and all that), I had a feeling that this leg might be an elimination leg. And then, Margie & Luke got worried about how strong and fast Kris was, and I had a feeling that they'd get U-Turned. Finally, Amanda & Kris bitched about getting U-Turned, and I knew they were toast.
And my thoughts? Good. I liked them okay, but they really were the last generic team left. So now that we've got seven really unique teams left in the race, I'm definitely going to be happy with whomever takes the big prize in the end.
Oh, and Christie & Jodi winning the leg? FINE BY ME! They really earned it! Kisha & Jen would've had Kisha not botched the Roadblock and then missed the entrance to the theater. This is the first time since All-Stars that two women's teams have taken the top two spots on a leg (as Dustin & Kandice and Charla & Mirna had three one-two finishes)! Excellent episode, indeed!
And yes, Poo. The women's teams did do well this week (Jaime & Cara's Detour struggle notwithstanding). Really amazing that they all made it through four legs unscathed! But I think that's as far as they're going before the first one takes a hit.
Okay. Team analysis:
Christie & Jodi: Well-earned victory, indeed. They thought smart in their Detour choice and stayed calm despite Christie's Roadblock struggle. They were also smart to look up flights ahead of time and got ahead because of it. I enjoyed seeing them own this leg, and I hope it's the start of them turning their performances around.
Kisha & Jen: Another really solid leg after last week's great leg. They did just as well as Christie & Jodi save for Kisha's Roadblock brain fart. I think if they'd just run to the right entrance of the theater, they'd have won the leg, for sure.
Tammy & Victor: Nice recovery this week. They made good time with the Detour, Victor did well with the Roadblock, and they made up for their near-elimination the greatest of ease. Congratulations to them. I actually liked Victor a lot better this week, too.
Margie & Luke: Good job at the Detour, and it was smart to U-Turn Amanda & Kris since, as they said, they are strong and threatening (especially Kris). Luke really had trouble with that Roadblock, but good on him to try writing down different combinations of letters. But I hope they don't become the villain team next week.
Jaime & Cara: Jaime really panicked at the Detour when their wall started to fall, but good on Cara for staying as calm as she could, and keeping Jaime from going over the top. But girls, please stop the "no need for boys!" thing. It was cute in your Insider videos, but it could get old here.
Mel & Mike: Lowest finish so far, and all because of a.) messing up at the Stack Detour and b.) messing up at finding the delivery location of the Construct Detour. Mel cleaned up at the Roadblock, though, so of the bottom three teams, they deserved to finish ahead of all of them.
Mark & Michael: They could've easily nailed a place in the top three if they'd just started over with the stacking or just not messed it up. Switching Detours slowed them down, and failing to find the house slowed them down even more. Michael also failed to pay close enough attention at the Roadblock, but good job figuring out the answer right away upon getting all seven letters. I'm sure losing all their money will hurt them going forward, though. They're very lucky Amanda & Kris got U-Turned, or they would've been toast.
Amanda & Kris: Switching Detours was the catalyst for their demise. Not finding the house location in time made things worse for them. Getting U-Turned by Margie & Luke was the clincher. I'm okay with this ending, though. They were a strong, solid team, but also very, very, very generic, and, to be honest, kind of boring. So I'm not sad to see them go.
Oh, and I'd have probably done Stack for the Detour, but wouldn't have been opposed to doing Construct, either.
So . . . after episode four:
LOVE: Christie/Jodi, Kisha/Jen, Tammy/Victor, Margie/Luke, Jaime/Cara, Mel/Mike, Mark/Michael LIKE: No one NEUTRAL: No one DISLIKE: No one HATE: No one
Oh, my God! What a great season, indeed! For me, only loves are left!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 09, 2009, 01:19:00 AM
Did the demonstration stacks use cheats? In this photo (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/photos/photos.php?v=24325&s=7&p=1) you can see "wedge sticks" against the demonstration piles, using the method explained on this page (http://www.woodheat.org/firewood/stacking.htm).
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Ruth on March 09, 2009, 01:25:12 PM
Christie and Jodi - Wow, I never really expected them to come in first but they came from the back and just surprised us! Four episodes now, four different teams coming in first! Now that's what I call awesome. =)
Kisha and Jen - That was a waste, missing the entrance to the theatre. First at the Roadblock, first at the Detour. But that's alright, I'd rather have Christie and Jodi come in first. They worked really well together this episode I must say, and they've been doing well these two legs.
Tammy and Victor - Great recovery, I just love to see them nice to each other and all. Love how they worked so well together at the Detour and just beat everyone else on the second flight. And I thought it was funny when Victor was so eagerly saying at the U-turn, "not our fault, not our fault!" that was cute, lol.
Margie and Luke - They're consistent, fourth place three legs in a row. I wish they hadn't used the U-turn though. Sure, they got rid of a thread, but I always believe that those who use the U-turn will probably not win, hee. They didn't really need to use it in my opinion, they were quite ahead, and if they hadn't used it, Michael and Mark, my least favourite team, could have gone home!
Cara and Jaime - LOL at the Roadblock! Jaime simply assembled those letters, the person told her it was correct, and was she SHOCKED. I just LOVED her expression and how she was cheering over there with Cara asking her to hurry up lol. Love this team!
Mel and Mike - Pity they were walking round in circles, they could've done better. And I thought it was funny that they referred to Mark/Michael as "the little guy". That was really cute! Lol.
Mark and Michael - That was such a missed opportunity for them. First flight, leading, and all of a sudden fell almost to last place. They were lucky that Amanda and Kris were U-turned, otherwise they might have been the ones gone, what with them having problems with paying their cabbie.
Amanda and Kris - That. Must. Really. Suck. I mean, it's just so hard, struggling with the first Detour, changing tasks, struggling again looking for the house, when they were finally done they realised they were U-turned, and had to go back to the difficult task they abandoned in the first place. Sigh, I just felt so sad, and so bad for them! Yet they persevered all the way. Why must my favourite team U-turn the other favourite team! Now I'm reminded of TAR 12 when Lorena and Jason went out the same way... I'll really miss Amanda and Kris, they were so sweet =(
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 09, 2009, 02:41:11 PM
I have a really good copy if anyone has screencap requests?
Amanda and Kris - That. Must. Really. Suck. I mean, it's just so hard, struggling with the first Detour, changing tasks, struggling again looking for the house, when they were finally done they realised they were U-turned, and had to go back to the difficult task they abandoned in the first place. Sigh, I just felt so sad, and so bad for them! Yet they persevered all the way. Why must my favourite team U-turn the other favourite team! Now I'm reminded of TAR 12 when Lorena and Jason went out the same way... I'll really miss Amanda and Kris, they were so sweet =(
That was tempered for me somewhat by their bitching about how "shady" it was, and then totally failing to realize who'd done it to them.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Hooky on March 09, 2009, 04:01:38 PM
I didn't find any of their behavior bad or annoying this leg, Ashe! Had I been in their shoes and gotten U-turned the same way, I know I would've reacted more negatively than that. They just accepted it with minimal squabbling, which only speaks well of them. :'(
And I was very annoyed that CBS continued to make it look like Amanda was being a wimpy, whiny weakling. Many other teams have worked similarly at tasks like the Stack Detour (one grabs a piece of wood, the other stacks), and they weren't edited to look as though one teammate wasn't pulling their weight. (:;)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: tory on March 09, 2009, 04:51:05 PM
all i can picture when i read the title of this thread was mike and mel and mark and mike and who ever the other team was walking down the streets with those doors / window shutters, like gypsie going to build a fourtountelling house..omg lol
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: TexasLady on March 09, 2009, 05:20:10 PM
I didn't find any of their behavior bad or annoying this leg, Ashe! Had I been in their shoes and gotten U-turned the same way, I know I would've reacted more negatively than that. They just accepted it with minimal squabbling, which only speaks well of them. :'(
And I was very annoyed that CBS continued to make it look like Amanda was being a wimpy, whiny weakling. Many other teams have worked similarly at tasks like the Stack Detour (one grabs a piece of wood, the other stacks), and they weren't edited to look as though one teammate wasn't pulling their weight. (:;)
I felt so bad for them. :'( I would have been a lot more vocal and not nearly as nice. :-[
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 09, 2009, 05:31:41 PM
I think its easy to sit on your chair at home and judge the teams when really, we don't know what Kris and Amanda's strategy was. I mean come on........ if a challenge calls for strength then it makes sense for the obvious to use his strength, whos going to get through the challenge faster. Amanda rocked last weeks Roadblock, that is where she shined. Now that they are gone we might never know what else Amanda was capable of.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Belle Book on March 09, 2009, 07:51:12 PM
Here are my rankings of the teams after this leg:
Christie & Jodi -- wow! First place this leg, and it was well-earned! They were right to go to the Internet cafe to get flight information and things only went well for them from there!
LaKisha & Jen -- another fine job from them, but they could've done better with the Roadblock. Still, a fine job from them!
Tammy & Victor -- much better this leg! Nice recovery from the disaster of the previous leg! Did well with the Detour and Roadblock! They regained my affection!
Margie & Luke -- I can see the strategy behind the U-Turn. They hadn't been allied with Amanda & Kris, and the dating couple was stronger than Mel & Mike. Still, it was sad to see them use it on the dating couple.
Jamie & Cara -- a very good job, even when some of the wall went down. And it was real funny to see them pretend to be Lufthansa travel agents! :lol:
Mel & Mike -- didn't do so well because you switched Detours and got lost at the Construct Detour. But you still did a decent job.
Mark & Michael -- wow, you guys really need help both with your navigational skills and with your cluelessness! You got lost on the way to the Detour, you switched Detours and had all kinds of trouble with the Construct one, and finally you ran out of money! You were lucky Amanda & Kris got the U-Turn, or you might've been toast!
Philiminated: Amanda & Kris. Okay, so you weren't the most interesting team, but you didn't fight. Still, it was sad to see you go home.
Love: Cara & Jamie, Tammy & Victor Like: Christie & Jodi, LaKisha & Jen, Margie & Luke and Mel & Mike. Neutral: Mark & Michael
Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 09, 2009, 08:09:58 PM
The sign reads, as best I can figure it: ВСПОМНИТЕ ЭТО ПИСЬМО (Remember that letter) (I used Windows Character Map, plugging in one letter at a time. There's got to be an easier way ;D)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Jobby on March 09, 2009, 09:30:58 PM
Amanda and Kris - That. Must. Really. Suck. I mean, it's just so hard, struggling with the first Detour, changing tasks, struggling again looking for the house, when they were finally done they realised they were U-turned, and had to go back to the difficult task they abandoned in the first place. Sigh, I just felt so sad, and so bad for them! Yet they persevered all the way. Why must my favourite team U-turn the other favourite team! Now I'm reminded of TAR 12 when Lorena and Jason went out the same way... I'll really miss Amanda and Kris, they were so sweet =(
That was tempered for me somewhat by their bitching about how "shady" it was, and then totally failing to realize who'd done it to them.
:res:
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I think its easy to sit on your chair at home and judge the teams when really, we don't know what Kris and Amanda's strategy was. I mean come on........ if a challenge calls for strength then it makes sense for the obvious to use his strength, whos going to get through the challenge faster. Amanda rocked last weeks Roadblock, that is where she shined. Now that they are gone we might never know what else Amanda was capable of.
:tup:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Jobby on March 09, 2009, 09:38:19 PM
Let's look at past Yields and U-TURNs -
When Colin and Christie got Yielded, they got angry for the next few legs with Chip and Kim and wanted to beat them in EVERYTHING.
When Ron and Kelly got Yielded, they drew on Rob and Amber's face.
When Weaver Family got Yielded, they called the Paolos and Linz names and it wasn't very nice.
When Danielle and Dani got Yielded, they cried and broke down.
When MoJo got Yielded, they became very aggressive about it and flipped off BJ and Tyler.
When Lyn and Karlyn got Yielded, Karlyn flipped off Dustin and Kandice.
When Eric and Danielle got Yielded by Dustin and Kandice and Oswald and Danny, you knew they did alot of trash talking and called them some really nasty names.
From past history shows, only Lorena and Jason managed to take their U-TURN with a stride and continue to race well and in peace with each other. A zillion other teams behaved 18409328 times worst than Amanda and Kris. Now, where did the "bitching" and the "shady" part from Amanda and Kris came from? I didn't see it?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 09, 2009, 09:44:45 PM
It's a game, but when you're tired and get to the next clue box, the last thing you want to see is your picture on the sign knowing that you have to wait or you have to do the other detour. It can be very deflating to see you've been Yielded or U-Turned. As we've seen, the Yield or U-Turn can be the death knell, especially in Lorena & Jason's and Amanda & Kris' case. The others? Teams have recovered to come back, especially in Team Alabama's case.
I've talked to Lyn and she now takes it in stride. She says Karlyn is still bitter about the Yield. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 09, 2009, 10:21:44 PM
Yakc's chart for the latest episode (http://homepage.mac.com/yakc/tv/tar14.html#leg4) and confirms, in graphic form, what we saw last night: that the RB made little difference, that most of the flight advantage was gobbled up by HoO, and that changing Detours was the killer.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: apskip on March 09, 2009, 10:48:16 PM
It's a game, but when you're tired and get to the next clue box, the last thing you want to see is your picture on the sign knowing that you have to wait or you have to do the other detour. It can be very deflating to see you've been Yielded or U-Turned. As we've seen, the Yield or U-Turn can be the death knell, especially in Lorena & Jason's and Amanda & Kris' case. The others? Teams have recovered to come back, especially in Team Alabama's case.
I've talked to Lyn and she now takes it in stride. She says Karlyn is still bitter about the Yield. :lol:
Lyn and Karlyn can think what they choose, but the cold fact is that they survived that YIELD in Morocco and although Dustin/Kandice just barely survived that episode they were too far back to catch up the next leg in Barcelona. Editing makes it appear that it was bad karma from the YIELD catching up with Dustin/Kandice but in reality it was just lack of attention to various markers along the road to the olive grinding presses.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Ashe on March 10, 2009, 05:12:16 AM
Now, where did the "bitching" and the "shady" part from Amanda and Kris came from? I didn't see it?
They both called it "shady" the moment they saw they'd been U-Turned, and then called all the other teams (probably because they didn't know the exact culprits) "conniving," and then thought they were entitled to not being U-Turned because they'd been nice to everyone. Had they taken that as flattery for their abilities like Lorena & Jason did, I'd have had more respect for them in that instant.
But you know what? I'll just say one more thing below this sentence, and then you can all return to your Amanda & Kris tongue-bathing.
Oh, whatever. I did like them a lot, in spite of Amanda's "useless team member" edit, but they were the team I liked the least and was interested in the least, so I'm glad they hit the bricks this week.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Jobby on March 10, 2009, 08:53:32 AM
It's a game, but when you're tired and get to the next clue box, the last thing you want to see is your picture on the sign knowing that you have to wait or you have to do the other detour. It can be very deflating to see you've been Yielded or U-Turned. As we've seen, the Yield or U-Turn can be the death knell, especially in Lorena & Jason's and Amanda & Kris' case. The others? Teams have recovered to come back, especially in Team Alabama's case.
I've talked to Lyn and she now takes it in stride. She says Karlyn is still bitter about the Yield. :lol:
Lyn and Karlyn can think what they choose, but the cold fact is that they survived that YIELD in Morocco and although Dustin/Kandice just barely survived that episode they were too far back to catch up the next leg in Barcelona. Editing makes it appear that it was bad karma from the YIELD catching up with Dustin/Kandice but in reality it was just lack of attention to various markers along the road to the olive grinding presses.
This is off-topic. But Dustin and Kandice got pawned by bad karma for all you know for the leg they used their Yield on the Lyns. :funny:
And they lost to Eric and Danielle for Yielding them and buying a Yield on them too. Bad karma as well. Karma bites best. :funny: :yess:
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They both called it "shady" the moment they saw they'd been U-Turned, and then called all the other teams (probably because they didn't know the exact culprits) "conniving," and then thought they were entitled to not being U-Turned because they'd been nice to everyone. Had they taken that as flattery for their abilities like Lorena & Jason did, I'd have had more respect for them in that instant.
:funny: Very shady and bad bitching from Amanda and Kris indeed. Awesome explaination. :res:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: tory on March 10, 2009, 11:54:50 AM
it was shady there was no way to tell who did it so they could have been talking about the prodution team and the fact that it was a blind u turn, shady.. i think they handeled it realy well , i did not realy notice this team that much un till this week , and i realy like them i hope they had fun and can't wait to here ther interview..
love the red heads, and mike and mel like the 2 sisters the blonds r ok so r mike and mark hate tammy and victor
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 10, 2009, 10:32:33 PM
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 11, 2009, 12:30:24 AM
Quote from: Honeybee
- I do think that this shot was taken early in the morning, but it could have been shot before any teams had even arrived in Siberia, for promotional purposes/added shots. Later, all of the shots of teams in the carts are from a camera attached to the front of the cart looking back at them. So this time does not necessarily mean that is when they performed the roadblock.
Nicely done. :tup: We now know the dam opened at 0830 and the RB was last. Even the demonstration shoes matched the promo shoes. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: tory on March 11, 2009, 06:17:12 PM
ty for the leader board. i though marg and luke had come in 4th the last 3 x in a row..i was right. also i for got they one the first leg. so ty ty ty for the leader board... :hugs:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Boingo on March 11, 2009, 07:45:50 PM
The sign reads, as best I can figure it: ВСПОМНИТЕ ЭТО ПИСЬМО (Remember that letter) (I used Windows Character Map, plugging in one letter at a time. There's got to be an easier way ;D)
there is.... :lol: open the "Regional and Language Options" in Windows Control Panel. Click on "Languages" tab. Click on "Details..." button (which opens up "Text Services and Input Languages" box. Click "Add..." and select Russian. This will add a Russian (Cyrillic) keyboard input.
Next Google the web for a layout of a Cyrillic keyboard to see which charcters are assigned to the keys on your keyboard. Switch to the Russian keyboard in Windows and type in the Cyrillic characters with one key stroke. Ta-da!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 11, 2009, 07:54:31 PM
Cool trick боинго!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 11, 2009, 08:06:35 PM
All I've got in the dropdown box is English, no foreign languages. I'm guessing that when I installed Vista I left out foreign keyboard support. I'll grab the install disc and see what I can figure out (something to do ;D). In the meantime, I've found a virtual keyboard (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/paulgor/screen_e.htm) and I plug the results into NiceTranslator (http://www.nicetranslator.com/), my favorite of the moment.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 11, 2009, 08:13:24 PM
The sign reads, as best I can figure it: ВСПОМНИТЕ ЭТО ПИСЬМО (Remember that letter) (I used Windows Character Map, plugging in one letter at a time. There's got to be an easier way ;D)
there is.... :lol: open the "Regional and Language Options" in Windows Control Panel. Click on "Languages" tab. Click on "Details..." button (which opens up "Text Services and Input Languages" box. Click "Add..." and select Russian. This will add a Russian (Cyrillic) keyboard input.
Next Google the web for a layout of a Cyrillic keyboard to see which charcters are assigned to the keys on your keyboard. Switch to the Russian keyboard in Windows and type in the Cyrillic characters with one key stroke. Ta-da!
Well, if I knew where my control panel was, :funny:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 11, 2009, 08:16:10 PM
All I've got in the dropdown box is English, no foreign languages. I'm guessing that when I installed Vista I left out foreign keyboard support. I'll grab the install disc and see what I can figure out (something to do ;D). In the meantime, I've found a virtual keyboard (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/paulgor/screen_e.htm) and I plug the results into NiceTranslator (http://www.nicetranslator.com/), my favorite of the moment.
These are great detective tools Slowhatch and Boingo ,, we really need a place to store these so they don't get lost :jam: And haha I'm bored too, come on CBS give us a preview :crybabe:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 11, 2009, 08:17:26 PM
The sign reads, as best I can figure it: ВСПОМНИТЕ ЭТО ПИСЬМО (Remember that letter) (I used Windows Character Map, plugging in one letter at a time. There's got to be an easier way ;D)
there is.... :lol: open the "Regional and Language Options" in Windows Control Panel. Click on "Languages" tab. Click on "Details..." button (which opens up "Text Services and Input Languages" box. Click "Add..." and select Russian. This will add a Russian (Cyrillic) keyboard input.
Next Google the web for a layout of a Cyrillic keyboard to see which charcters are assigned to the keys on your keyboard. Switch to the Russian keyboard in Windows and type in the Cyrillic characters with one key stroke. Ta-da!
Well, if I knew where my control panel was, :funny:
Try start>>search>>Regional and Language Options :sucks
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 11, 2009, 08:21:03 PM
And since were on this subject this is the translator I "was" using, more so for Chinese. http://www.worldlingo.com/en/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Boingo on March 11, 2009, 08:41:50 PM
:lol: Try Start -> Settings -> Control Panel
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 11, 2009, 08:44:38 PM
Well I'm using Vista so my way works faster for me but either will do :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Boingo on March 11, 2009, 08:49:50 PM
oooohhhh oooohhhh just noticed something cool...!!!!! :sucks Once you setup the Russian keyboard input and select it.... if you go to the Start -> Programs -> Accesories -> Accesibilty -> On-screen Keyboard menu item you get the Cyrillic keyboard. Cool! No need to Google for a keyboard layout. Cool.... I amaze myself sometimes!!! :wohoo:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 11, 2009, 08:58:21 PM
Got it now. спасибо :tup:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Jobby on March 11, 2009, 09:13:29 PM
:funny: Omg you guys just became russians! :funny:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 11, 2009, 09:16:53 PM
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 11, 2009, 10:24:24 PM
Very nice. I like it.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Neobie on March 11, 2009, 11:48:24 PM
Erm, guys - письмо (pismo) means 'letter' as in mail, not 'letter' as in ABC, right?
Should the correct word be буква (bukva) instead?
I'm doubting the professionalism of their translators (currently as accurate as BabelFish)...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 12, 2009, 12:42:05 AM
And what was the point? ??? No racer would have been able to read it (much less decipher it), and the US/Russian PAs would have referred to the signs using their own terms.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: Dånooky on March 12, 2009, 01:02:10 PM
And what was the point? ??? No racer would have been able to read it (much less decipher it), and the US/Russian PAs would have referred to the signs using their own terms.
for the lulz?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP4: 'It Was Like a Caravan of Idiots'(Siberia)
Post by: puddin on March 12, 2009, 06:22:46 PM
I guess this goes here?
The Amazing Race 14 - Phil's Diary: Episode 5
Phil Pit Stops in Russia at the Theatre of Musical Comedy