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Title: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on September 28, 2008, 03:03:02 PM
Leg 4 Auckland, NZ 10/19/08

Auckland, NZ 5/2/08 to 5/3/08

apskip's: (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.275.html)
*I have BIG NEWS from my brother-in-law Ray who works at the Auckland International Airport as reported by my sister who is a big Amazing Race fan after I asked about May 2:
*I just checked with Ray and he said the Amazing Race team did arrive in Auckland, went into the city for the day and came back to the airport late that evening and departed.  He told me he saw Phil Keogan the kiwi who fronts the show waiting for the competitors.
*This fits perfectly with my theory that teams would do a REST DAY or in this case from 0355 until late evening


 apskip's adds:

NEW
New Zealand INFO FROM MY SOURCE

*"Phil Keoghan and team arrived on what I think was the 2 May. I personally saw him only the afternoon/evening of this day
 *However, other staff members report they have seen the team also on this day
*Phil Keoghan flew out in the early hours of the next day (possibly 3rd  of May) - 5am ish.
*Flights leaving that early in the morning are usually just flying to Australia
*Some airport security staff saw the rest of the team fly out in dribs and drabs on the "3rd of May", with the last team around 7pm ish that eveningleaving  ."
*"they left during the course of the day from around 12:30pm onwards - most took Emirates flights (of which there are 3 daily departures each day - all of which go thru Australia. One to Melbourne then Dubai, One to Sydney then Singapore, One to Brisbane, Bangkok. There was still one team here around 7pm waiting to fly out."



mez: (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg300434.html#msg300434)
*Hi, this is completely unconfirmed and comes to me third hand but my mother was listening to a talk show on the radio yesterday here in NZ and there was a woman from Tauranga on who said that a reality show had been through there-well, the Tauranga-Mount Maunganui area (in the North Island, not far from Auckland).  I asked my mother if the woman had said when and she said no but she got the impression listening that it was in the last month.


selwyn: (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg301741.html#msg301741)

*I've spoken to people within the industry who had direct involvement with The Amazing Race in New Zealand.
*They definitely did a leg here, roughly the dates I mention earlier (Apr 30 - May 2) but I think it may have run a day late.
*I am not totally sure where they traveled, but it was out of Auckland south into the North Island (this would fit with Tauranga or Rotorua, or both).  
*And I have no idea where they pit-stopped.
*There were as many a 10 local crews on the job, plus the standard travelling crews. This was definitely the CBS Amazing Race, not a localised variant (the Asian version has been here twice in the past).


selwyn adds:
 
*My informants also tell me that at least one team was quite a way behind at the end of the NZ leg. So it's possible that not all teams land in Cambodia the same time.
 

•Phil interview: (http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2008-09-25-keoghan-qna_N.htm)
•Q: You're also going back to your birthplace, New Zealand, the adventure capital of the world, for the third time. What new thrills can we expect to see?
•A: New Zealanders are very proud of their indigenous Maori culture, and we were looking to get something of that in the show. We ended up having the teams search for Maori warriors on an extinct volcano (near Auckland), and it was the most magical morning when they arrived: As the sun was rising, there were these warriors doing the haka (a traditional war dance) with a magnificent rainbow over the top of the hill.




Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "title?"
Post by: puddin on September 28, 2008, 03:24:07 PM
Clues~

ONE RACER FALLS DURING A DETOUR AND FEARS SHE MAY HAVE BROKEN HER ARM, WHILE ANOTHER TEAM STARTS TO FALL APART EMOTIONALLY, ON "THE AMAZING RACE 13," SUNDAY, OCT. 19

"I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?" -

*Teammates clash as one accuses the other of behaving like a dictator.
**while another Team struggles to keep their relationship intact
*A team is stranded on the side of the road. Will the aid of a local save their Race?
*While navigating a tricky Detour, one Racer takes a hard fall and injures her arm,
**One racer wipes out and fears broken bones. Will they push through the pain to reach the Pit Stop?




Fly to Auckland, NZ

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Airport Drama Equalizer
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Every man for himself .. race to grab a car
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Fast Forward at the Sky City Tower 
production slideshow , again thanks to schwarzmoor's find



Roadblock= who has a eye for detail?
Phil-- We ended up having the teams search for Maori warriors on an extinct volcano (near Auckland), and it was the most magical morning when they arrived: As the sun was rising, there were these warriors doing the haka (a traditional war dance) with a magnificent rainbow over the top of the hill.



(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/th_002510-13-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/th_002610-13-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/th_002710-13-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/th_002910-13-2008.jpg)

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(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/th_14Oct0000.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/th_14Oct0001.jpg) pinky

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/th_000110-16-2008-1.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/?action=view&current=000110-16-2008-1.jpg) Toni




Detours, Blokart or Kiwi stomping ?

Kiwi's
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(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/th_003810-13-2008.jpg) DAndrew




Blokart

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Pitstop, Phil and dad!
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Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "title?"
Post by: puddin on September 28, 2008, 03:25:15 PM
You can read here (http://www.newzealand.com/travel/about-nz/features/the-amazing-race-asia-2007/the-amazing-race-asia---season-2.cfm) when TARA2 went to Auckland.  :sucks
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 04, 2008, 10:06:14 PM
OMG the TITLE!!!!!!!!!!!! "Blondes..."

"I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Hooky on October 04, 2008, 10:44:20 PM
That's a terrible title! I know the spoilers, but that doesn't mean everyone in the world does.

They need some new title making staff. :groan:
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: TARAsia Fan on October 05, 2008, 01:12:24 AM
That could mean Tina. She's a blonde, too. Don't jump to conclusions.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: michael on October 05, 2008, 07:55:47 AM
That could mean Tina. She's a blonde, too. Don't jump to conclusions.

exatamundo.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: north09 on October 05, 2008, 11:38:34 AM
That could mean Tina. She's a blonde, too. Don't jump to conclusions.

I'm kind of hoping it is! The blondes need to go tonight for me to score some more points.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Belle Book on October 05, 2008, 04:14:11 PM
"I wonder if they like blondes in New Zealand?"  Although this could be about Tina, I'll bet it's about Marissa & Brooke -- which means they make it to New Zealand at least.  So much for my theory that they go out tonight.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: north09 on October 05, 2008, 04:18:07 PM
"I wonder if they like blondes in New Zealand?"  Although this could be about Tina, I'll bet it's about Marissa & Brooke -- which means they make it to New Zealand at least.  So much for my theory that they go out tonight.

Belle Book


But would the producers be that dumb as to give it away like that?
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 05, 2008, 04:54:17 PM
They gave the route away so who knows? I mean those that do not read spoilers have no idea that Tina makes it far and the the blonds do not.

eta: and while I'm here I think Dallas & Toni cop the Fast Forward at the tower seeing as they seem to be first doing the Tonle Sap task in Cambodia.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: pyryniemi on October 06, 2008, 12:37:06 PM
Why are there numbers all the way to
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
in "Fast Forward in Progress" signpost?
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: michael on October 06, 2008, 12:42:16 PM
maybe leg three is a NEL?
or a TBC like in TAR9?
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 06, 2008, 01:29:02 PM
maybe leg three is a NEL?
or a TBC like in TAR9?

No, we've been through this months ago, I suggest starting with page 21  or so

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.500.html
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 06, 2008, 01:41:18 PM
I cannot locate the precise post where I went over this, but let me just summarize my hypothesis here. The board for picking numbers already exists from past Amazing Races. It is a simple 3X3. So even if there are less than 9 teams in the competition, there will be nine slots on that board.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Hooky on October 10, 2008, 04:20:38 PM
I cannot locate the precise post where I went over this, but let me just summarize my hypothesis here. The board for picking numbers already exists from past Amazing Races. It is a simple 3X3. So even if there are less than 9 teams in the competition, there will be nine slots on that board.

It happened in leg 5 of Season 7 (there were 9 numbers for 7 teams), so it makes perfect sense.

Of course, since everything is being scaled down and simplified, the one in Season 7 was better and it actually had numbers with Fast Forward icons on them.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 11, 2008, 09:12:50 PM
Look!! Look!!

All this is in speculation (volcano, location, parents, etc)  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15374.msg353173.html#msg353173)  I'll help move it in a minute, but lookee! :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

Here's Phil's Dad as our greeter! :jumpy: :jumpy:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13ep4Philsdadgreeter.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/PhilsparentsBethandJohn.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13ep4Philgoeshome.jpg)

http://tv.yahoo.com/falltv/photos/amazing-race/355
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 11, 2008, 09:17:33 PM
Finally some NZ news!  :hearts:

And look!

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And you'll see my dad make an appearance in this season's New Zealand episode, where I was able to help him celebrate his 66th birthday.

For reference: Phil's parents John and Beth

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/PhilsparentsBethandJohn.jpg)





Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 11, 2008, 09:22:04 PM
Auckland is ringed by inactive Volcanic cones. One of them in particular has strong Maori links, and could possibly be our dawn find a Maori task location.

One tree hill, Māori name is Maungakiekie

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One Tree Hill is one of Auckland's most recognisable landmarks and from its summit you get 360-degree views of the city.

It was formed up to 30,000 years ago and is one of several inactive volcanos in the Auckland area. The others include Mt Eden, Mt Wellington and Rangitoto Island.

Situated within Cornwall Park, One Tree Hill has at its peak a large obelisk that was erected early last century as a tribute to the local Maori population.

On its slopes are more than 170 man-made terraces that formed parts of three old Maori forts or pas. These make up what is believed to be the world's biggest pre-historic earth fortifications.

One Tree Hill has been public land since the 1840s and until recently was topped with a single pine tree. This was attacked and badly damaged by a political activist and was later cut down.

Today One Tree Hill offers Aucklanders and tourists a peaceful place in which to walk, jog, picnic or just sit and relax and enjoy some truly spectacular scenery.

http://www.tikitouring.co.nz/oth.htm

Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: randomnzer on October 11, 2008, 09:27:57 PM
Phil owns a property around Coromandel (if I remember correctly), which fairly close to Auckland. That could be where the pit stop is.

The mountain in the background looks a little like Mt Taranaki (Mt Egmont), which is on the west coast of the North Island. There is a fair bit of forestry around that area (the trees you see in the background are pine plantations rather than natural forest).
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 11, 2008, 09:34:21 PM
 Pretty close to our intro cap:
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#15 sheep, New Zealand
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/smaller/29Sep0105.jpg)


Panorama:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13NZpanoramafromOnetreeHill.jpg)

Some other views from One tree Hill The first shows the Tower, the second i towards Rangitoto:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13NZviewfromonetreehillshowstowe.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13NZviewtowardsrangitotofmonetre.jpg)

One tree hill is not the only possible place, Rangitoto is the largest cone I believe?

Whatever one is ours will need to have a Maori connection....

Now we can try to also match this view for the Pitstop! :hearts:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13ep4Philsdadgreeter.jpg)
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Slowhatch on October 11, 2008, 09:42:09 PM
Didn't CBS put it out (on their map) that the stop was Te Puke? If that's to be trusted, then I've found some shots from the nearby Papamoa hills that bear some resemblance (no match yet).
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 11, 2008, 09:47:52 PM
Slowohatch, you are quite right. Also, if you consult your New Zealand map and look really hard, Te Puke is within 30 km of Tauranga and Mt. Maunganui. Rumors that those are places visited in this leg appear to be true.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 11, 2008, 09:54:36 PM
Yes, we know they go to Te Puke based on Intro caps and their map, but I think that may be  for a task.

Here from the article above:

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We ended up having the teams search for Maori warriors on an extinct volcano (near Auckland), and it was the most magical morning when they arrived: As the sun was rising, there were these warriors doing the haka (a traditional war dance) with a magnificent rainbow over the top of the hill.

So maybe one of the volcanic cones is the very first task "Find the Maori: and get your clue"....

And the Pitstop w/ Phil's Dad comes on those other hills?

Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 11, 2008, 10:09:54 PM
View from Mt Maunganui  in case:

Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 11, 2008, 10:11:53 PM
Peach, Te Puke is a mere 215 km from Auckland, so they don't just zip over and back. That is at least 5 hours on the road going over and back given the limits on time. We know they cannot clear Auckland International Airport before 430am and that teams are supposed to get back soon after midnight, unless it is a TBC(which is distinctly possible). A 12 hour pitstop means teams must be released by about 10pm. That leaves between 430am and 10am to get to all tasks and then to Te Puke. With a 2.5 hour drive over, the chances of that are minimal in my opinion.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 11, 2008, 10:16:34 PM
Here is a list of maybe all possible activities in Tauranga:

Adventure Parks
Hill Hoppers, Longridge Park, SH 23, Paengaroa Tel (07) 5331818 Four Wheel Drive Fun in Suzuki Vitaras
Longridge Park, SH 23, Paengaroa Tel (07) 5331515. Jet boat rides, kiwifruit farm, deer and tamed animals.
Waimarino Canoe Centre (Wairoa river), Taniwha Place, Bethlehem. Tel (07) 576 4233. River and sea kayaking hire and outdoor climbing wall.

Farms
Deer Farm, O'Harar Estate, 540 SH 33 Te Puke, Tel (07) 5738764. Deer Farm Tours
Faraway Farm, 1384, No. 3 Rd, Te Puke, Tel (07) 5735400 or (025) 2805727, Fax (07) 5735402. Guided horse treks, possum shooting and farming activities. Farm-stay and cabin accommodation.
Ostrich and Emu Farm,  Clarke Rd, Te Puna, RD 6, Tel (07) 552 5558

Dolphin Swimming
Gemini Galaxsea Tel (07) 5783197.
Dolphin Seafaris, Tauranga Bridge Marina, Tel 07 5754620
Fishing/Diving Charters

Blue Ocean Charters Ltd, Coronation Pier, Tel (07) 5789685
Fishing and Boating Charters, Coronation Pier, Tel (07) 5776501

Flying, Gliding and Skydiving
Aero Club, Tauranga Airport, Tel (07) 5753210 /5753104. Scenic and charter flights
Gliding, Aerodrome Rd, Mt Maunganui Tel (07) 5756768.....photos
Marine Helicopters, Tel (07) 575 0689. Scenic flights to White Island. (Active Volcano)
Microlight Training Flights, Tel (07) 025 767 194
Tandem Skydiving Tauranga Airport, Tel (07) 576 7990

Golf
Mount Maunganui Golf Club, Fairway Ave, Mt Maunganui, Tel (07) 575 4487
Omanu Golf Club, 97 Matapihi Rd, Mt Maunganui, Tel (07) 5755957
Otumoetai Golf Club, Bureta Park, Tauranga Tel (07) 5769730
Pitch "n" Drive Golf Park, Parton Rd, Papamoa Tel (07) 5422525
Tauranga Golf Club, Cameron Rd, Tauranga Tel (07) 5788465.
Te Puke Golf Club, SH 2, Paengaroa Tel (07) 5331115
Western Bay Golf Links, Links View Drive, Omokoroa Tel (07) 5480384
 
Heated Swimming Pools
Greerton Aquatic Centre, Kiteroa St, Greerton, Tel. (07)5410319
Mount Maunganui Hot Salt Water Pools, 1 Adams Ave, Mt Maunganui, Tel. (07) 5754487
Oropi Spa Pools, 1Warner Rd, Oropi, Tel (07) 5433913
Kaimai Bush Adventures Tel (07) 5525454 or 5480625. Guided tramping in Kaimai- Mamaka State Forest Park

Mayor Island, Uninhabited Island  48 km North East of Tauranga with a camping ground and walking tracks.

Mountain Bike Trails, Oropi Grove, 3kms up Oropi Rd from SH 29. Mountain bike tracks thru native bush

Natural Hot Mineral Spings
Bayshore Leisure Park, SH 29 Windemere, Tel/Fax (07) 5440700.
Fernland Spa Mineral Hot Pools, 250 Cambridge Rd, Tel (07) 5783081.
Sapphire Spings, Hot springs Rd, Katikati, Tel (07) 5490768.
Welcome Bay Hot Pools, Welcome Bay Rd, Welcome Bay. Tel (07) 544 2327.
Pacer Rally Karts (Go Karts), 85 Keith Allen Drive, Tauranga Tel (07) 5776835

Rock Climbing
The Rock House,   9 Triton Ave, Mt Maunganui.  Tel (07) 572 4920. Indoor rock climbing complex
Waimarino Canoe Centre (Wairoa river), Taniwha Place, Bethlehem. Tel (07) 576 4233. River and sea kayaking hire and outdoor climbing wall.

Swimming, Surfing and Windsurfing
Mt Maunganui, Pacific Ocean surf beach
Papamoa, Pacific Ocean surf beach
Omanu, Pacific Ocean surf beach
Maketu, Pacific Ocean surf beach
Matakana Island, Pacific Ocean surf beach
Inner Harbour, Kulim Park, Fergusson Park, Pilot Bay

Swimming Holes
Rerekawau Falls ( Kaiate Falls), Off Welcome Bay Rd. Swimming hole, series of nine cascades and waterfalls......photos
McLarens Falls, Off SH 29. Popular swimming hole, launching spots for white-water rafting and kayaking.......photos
Tour Operators (Local)

Tims Tours, Tel (07) 572 5956, Fax (07) 572 5903. Local and regional tours, golf tours or create your own.
Mount Classic Tours, Tel (07) 574 1779, Fax (07) 574 1775. Luxury Rolls Royce and Damlier limousine tours and weddings.

White Water Rafting
Wairoa River and Kaituna River, Grade 5 white-water rafting and kayaking
Wet 'N' Wild, Tel (07)348 3191
River Rats Rafting, Tel (07) 347 6049

Wineries
Mills Reef, 143 Moffat Rd, Tauranga Tel (07) 5768800
Mortan Estate, SH 2, Katikati. Tel (07) 552 0795


I like the possibility of Kaimai Bush Adventures and of Waimarino Canoe Centre and climbing wall
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 11, 2008, 10:27:09 PM
Peach, Te Puke is a mere 215 km from Auckland, so they don't just zip over and back. That is at least 5 hours on the road going over and back given the limits on time. We know they cannot clear Auckland International Airport before 430am and that teams are supposed to get back soon after midnight, unless it is a TBC(which is distinctly possible). A 12 hour pitstop means teams must be released by about 10pm. That leaves between 430am and 10am to get to all tasks and then to Te Puke. With a 2.5 hour drive over, the chances of that are minimal in my opinion.


Are you saying you don't think they went there? ???

Because we know they do based on the CBS map:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/26Sep0001.jpg)

and on this Intro cap:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/00279-28-2008.jpg)
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Slowhatch on October 11, 2008, 10:29:37 PM
I'll throw in one more activity: the Blokart (http://www.blokartheaven.co.nz/), which originated in the Tauranga area.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 11, 2008, 10:37:17 PM
Could that be Mt Taranaki in the background? Remember, I've never been to NZ.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/th_MtTaranaki_Egmont.jpg)(http://i38.[banned image hosting site].com/2kpvns.jpg)
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 11, 2008, 11:16:37 PM
Here is some more to add to what we know:

Teams arrive 5/2 and depart 5/3 12:30 to 7PM with one team still waiting to fly out at 7 ish

They do a dawn task on an extinct volcano near Auckland.

Crews were hired :
Crew link: http://forums.nzcrews.tv/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1413 (thanks to puddin)

 WANTED 20 Driver/PAs URGENT
Nice to talk to you this morning. We are looking for 20 Driver/PAs.

The job is 3 days and we have a flat rate of $200 / day. Dates are 30 April, 1 & 2 May.

Applicants need to be over 21, hold a full drivers license, and should confirm this in their email when they contact me.

And should send their CV to me at the email address below.

Many thanks,


Alex Campbell

Production Manager

W: 09 950 3908
M: 021 81 3304
E: alex.campbell at paradise.net.nz


GODZONE PRODUCTIONS LTD
T +64 9 950 3910
F +64 9 950 3908
1/20 Central Road, Kingsland, Auckland 1021
PO Box 78186, Grey Lynn, Auckland 1245


From selwyn:
Quote
It was confirmed from very reliable industry sources, TAR was definitely in New Zealand (Auckland and Middle-North Island) - from April 31 to May 2 or 3. A race spoiler I got was that at least one team missed a bus or similar and arrived at a challenge a day behind other teams (well, the following morning anyhow) - I hear this because the local crew hired to do the POV pickup shots had to revisit the location that morning to get matched lighting conditions.


I do believe that they were on schedule in NZ (so based on the request for drivers, that was April 30th (NZST) to May 2nd, however I expect that at least part of the production crew arrived earlier

The word I heard from my source was that a team 'missed the bus' and didn't arrive somewhere (I got the impression is was a cluebox) until the morning after other teams (although no word on what time of day the other teams got there the previous day).



We also had this:

Quote
mez:
*Hi, this is completely unconfirmed and comes to me third hand but my mother was listening to a talk show on the radio yesterday here in NZ and there was a woman from Tauranga on who said that a reality show had been through there-well, the Tauranga-Mount Maunganui area (in the North Island, not far from Auckland). I asked my mother if the woman had said when and she said no but she got the impression listening that it was in the last month.

I took this to Vinnie & Carly
 
93.4 MORE FM TAURANGA  who have a morning call in show.

They did not recall any such call-in but on several occasions between 5/21 and 6/5 were kind enough to take this info to their listeners --but there was no response from anyone in their listening area who saw anything at all.

So based on that, I  think the teams may have done only the dawn task near Auckland , and possibly the FF at the Sky Tower, before moving on to the Te Puke area, where we know the Pitstop was.

There are MAPS! here: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15503.msg301645.html#msg301645

Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: elopes on October 12, 2008, 10:15:23 AM
I didn't see anything speculated here about where the Maori warriors from the intro fit in.  Those are DEFINITELY New Zealand because I saw a show about them once :)
Maybe they're part of the dawn volcano task?  Or do we already know what that is??
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 12, 2008, 10:53:39 AM
Here ya go elopes

Phil interview:
•Q: You're also going back to your birthplace, New Zealand, the adventure capital of the world, for the third time. What new thrills can we expect to see?
•A: New Zealanders are very proud of their indigenous Maori culture, and we were looking to get something of that in the show. We ended up having the teams search for Maori warriors on an extinct volcano (near Auckland), and it was the most magical morning when they arrived: As the sun was rising, there were these warriors doing the haka (a traditional war dance) with a magnificent rainbow over the top of the hill.

Introflash's
#6 Sky City Tower, Auckland
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/smaller/29Sep0072.jpg)


#7 "None tree Hill", Auckland

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/smaller/29Sep0090.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/smaller/29Sep0073.jpg)

#8  Maori men, New Zealand
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/smaller/29Sep0075.jpg)

#15 sheep, New Zealand

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/smaller/29Sep0105.jpg)

#20 kiwi360 in Te Puke, New Zealand
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/smaller/29Sep0085.jpg)
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 12, 2008, 12:10:01 PM
Maybe someome has already posted some of this, but I do not recall so I am doing it:

www.kiwi360.com
Young Rd (PO Box 541), 5 minutes east of Te Puke, off SH 2, Te Puke
admin@kiwi360.com

Kiwi360 celebrates the New Zealand icon, the Kiwifruit. Visitors can experience a kiwifruit orchard tour on our unique kiwikarts, gaining an insight into the very special and unique conditions that enable production of the highest quality kiwifruit in the world. Visitors can enjoy superb café food in the courtyard café or shop for unique gifts and souvenirs in Western Bay of Plenty's largest tourist retail outlet.


puddin, no it cannot be Mt. Taranaki/Egmont seen from Te Puke. Mount Taranaki/Egmont is on the southwest corner of the North Island. It is about 250 km from Te Puke. There may be an initial "hunt for Maoris" on the slopes of the volcano in the Auckland area, but if teams finish as stated by CBS at Te Puke you can bet a lot of money on the proposition that they don't just go 250 km to Te Puke just so they can turn around and go back. That would be totally nonsensical.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 12, 2008, 12:20:36 PM
Kiwi360.com is the most visited attraction in Te Puke, but there are also these:

Longridge Fun Park Jet Boating in Te Puke, Bay of Plenty Region
Jet boat the scenic and narrow Kaituna River and experience our legendary 360-degree spins. Open 9:00am onwards.

Longridge Fun Park Farms in Te Puke, Bay of Plenty Region
This tour is on a working farm and orchard so you get to see and touch everything we talk about.
 
Hairy Berry Backpackers Booking Services in Te Puke, Bay of Plenty Region
10 mins to SURF BEACHES, bush walks and waterfalls. Only 30 minutes to Tauranga or Rotorua. Midway from Auckland or Coramandel to Taupo or East Cape your perfect stopover.
 
Experience Outdoors New Zealand Sports in Te Puke, Bay of Plenty Region
Go archery and pistol hunting without killing anything! Your opportunity to learn and practise skills in a natural "hunting" environment. Suitable for all ages,full instruction given,
 
Briars Seaside Ride Horse Trekking Horse Treks in Te Puke, Bay of Plenty Region
Guide your horse beside the glistening waves of the Pacific Ocean and through New Zealand dairy farmland with breathtaking views of the Coastal Bay of Plenty. A once in a life time opportunity.
 
 
 
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Belle Book on October 12, 2008, 01:39:43 PM
Here ya go elopes

Phil interview:
•Q: You're also going back to your birthplace, New Zealand, the adventure capital of the world, for the third time. What new thrills can we expect to see?
•A: New Zealanders are very proud of their indigenous Maori culture, and we were looking to get something of that in the show. We ended up having the teams search for Maori warriors on an extinct volcano (near Auckland), and it was the most magical morning when they arrived: As the sun was rising, there were these warriors doing the haka (a traditional war dance) with a magnificent rainbow over the top of the hill.

I'm so envious of the teams who arrived during that scene!

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 12, 2008, 08:05:13 PM
It's blokart sailing on wheels. The HQ for this is Blockart Heaven, Papamoa. Papamoa is the largest suburb of Tauranga.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2008, 08:27:50 PM
I'll throw in one more activity: the Blokart (http://www.blokartheaven.co.nz/), which originated in the Tauranga area.

Good job, slowhatch! :hearts:
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 12, 2008, 08:31:15 PM
I'll throw in one more activity: the Blokart (http://www.blokartheaven.co.nz/), which originated in the Tauranga area.
incoming  :yess: you got it Slowhatch!!!!!!

Aja & Ty get too close for comfort ......
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Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 12, 2008, 08:32:10 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/002010-12-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/002110-12-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/002210-12-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/002310-12-2008.jpg)
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 12, 2008, 08:37:20 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/002410-12-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/002510-12-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/002610-12-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/002710-12-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/002810-12-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/002910-12-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/003010-12-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/003110-12-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/003210-12-2008.jpg)


the end
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Slowhatch on October 12, 2008, 08:49:04 PM
176 Parton Road (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=176+parton+road,+papamoa,+nz&sll=-37.718,176.308358&sspn=0.002457,0.005665&ie=UTF8&ll=-37.718013,176.308422&spn=0.002457,0.005665&t=h&z=18), as mentioned by Apskip and others.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 12, 2008, 08:49:33 PM
this will do for now

Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 12, 2008, 09:16:01 PM
The photo of the mountain presented by puddin earlier raises the question of which one. Here are the prominent mountains of the Bay of Plenty region:

Mount Maunganui, Mount Tarawera and Mount Edgecumbe/Putauaki, which also have cultural significance to local Māori. The Kaimai and Mamaku mountain ranges lie at the western border of the region.

On the question of whether any oen of them matches the photo puddin provided in post #29 in this thread, I can say that Mt. Manganui is shaped different and is only 230 meters high. Mt. Tarawera, which was the subject of the Fast Forward to Wil and Tara in AR2, does not look like the photo. Mt. Edgecumbe/Putuaki is the closest to a match and I only have one side view to go on. It is 820 meters high. However, Mt. Edgecumbe is about 50 km from Te Puke.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 12, 2008, 11:20:54 PM
Next on The Amazing Race:
I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?
A team is stranded on the side of the road. Will the aid of a local save their Race?
Teammates clash as one accuses the other of behaving like a dictator.
One racer wipes out and fears broken bones. Will they push through the pain to reach the Pit Stop
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 12, 2008, 11:53:40 PM
EP 4 preview!
Blonds for the the title! Golf? Harbor!


http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/video/video.php?cid=868011752&pid=03h9VT1FJqf_RTtJYjWHzbbPehpS2eXS&play=true&cc=27

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Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 13, 2008, 12:16:03 AM
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Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Slowhatch on October 13, 2008, 12:17:09 AM
There's a Gulf Harbor (http://www.miltonrealty.co.nz/whangaparaoa_peninsula.htm) north of the airport, but it's just a marina and golf course basically.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: michael on October 13, 2008, 12:18:21 AM
And would you look at that, the teams are driving themselves! LOL, mswood  :neener:

LOL, for some reason I thought Kelly/Christy would be left behind and not catch up, so seeing them caught up makes me happy
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Slowhatch on October 13, 2008, 12:30:14 AM
If Gulf Harbor is just a route info stop, would that mean the Detour is nearby (Match the Moko (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C4%81_moko)/Mash the Kiwifruit)? Peach has a bead on the local volcanoes.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2008, 12:31:45 AM
Looks like they are stomping kiwis to me... at Kiwi360 maybe?

and One tree Hill's only tree is long gone :funny:, so maybe Mt Eden or Rangitoto?
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2008, 12:34:41 AM
Wait, there are a couple of trees:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13NZonetreeHill.jpg)

GMTA Slowhatch! Kiwi juice?
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2008, 12:41:19 AM
This looks maybe right? You catch a glimpse of what might be the wall/path  Christy is near...

View from the top of one tree hill--might be Rangitoto in the background of Kelly/Christy


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/002610-13-2008.jpg)

Clip view:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13ep4onetreehillview.jpg)


Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2008, 07:46:06 AM
As most of you know. 4/29 is MIA before our teams resurfuce in Santiago airport 4/30.

Since it now appears that Forteleza was an extended (18 hour?) pitstop, I am relooking at our previous thought that La Paz must be an extended Pitstop. Two back to back seems strange, as Chateau also noted.

So just for completeness, took a quick look at some bus info, but it seems to take too long to me.

HERE (http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa;jsessionid=081F2E8225D19ED7905D2D78D5564F8F.thorntree4?messageID=14495199) and HERE (http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g294072-i5798-k790168-La_Paz_to_Santiago-La_Paz.html)

I still think that TPTB would want the teams in Santiago in good time to avoid any chance of them missing the crucial NZ flight, but can't explain why they are seen arriving at the airport in two waves tired and dirty as per Justin.

Any other ides? I have been obsessing about this missing day for 5 months now, :lol:
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 13, 2008, 11:36:02 AM
Peach and Chateau:

I am not having a problem with the timing of the race and I do nto agree with your views of it. Being very approximate, this is the way it looks to me:

Pitstop in Fortaleza begins around 1pm April 26

Pitstop release in Fortaleza starts around 1am April 27

Flight lands at LPB around 8pm April 27

Pitstop beings before noon on April 28

This can either be an extended 36 hour pitstop, an extended 24 hour pitstop, an extended 18 hour pitstop or a regular pitstop, it doesn't matter. That means release at midnight starting April 30, at noon April 29, at am April 29 or midnight starting April 29. Take your pick! 

That is because teams have to get to Santiago well before the departure of LAN801 at 2245pm April 30. Any time they had extended in LaPaz will mean that much less of an in-place rest activity they will have in Santiago. As to how that unprecedented event would happen, I am not sure but I know it would happen if needed, maybe with a weird hours of operation.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 13, 2008, 02:42:26 PM
Didn't CBS put it out (on their map) that the stop was Te Puke? If that's to be trusted, then I've found some shots from the nearby Papamoa hills that bear some resemblance (no match yet).

nice view, from what I've seen Papamoa Hills it is perfect Slowhatch  :kuss:
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: gingerman28 on October 13, 2008, 02:46:08 PM
As most of you know. 4/29 is MIA before our teams resurfuce in Santiago airport 4/30.

Since it now appears that Forteleza was an extended (18 hour?) pitstop, I am relooking at our previous thought that La Paz must be an extended Pitstop. Two back to back seems strange, as Chateau also noted.

So just for completeness, took a quick look at some bus info, but it seems to take too long to me.

HERE (http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa;jsessionid=081F2E8225D19ED7905D2D78D5564F8F.thorntree4?messageID=14495199) and HERE (http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g294072-i5798-k790168-La_Paz_to_Santiago-La_Paz.html)

I still think that TPTB would want the teams in Santiago in good time to avoid any chance of them missing the crucial NZ flight, but can't explain why they are seen arriving at the airport in two waves tired and dirty as per Justin.

Any other ides? I have been obsessing about this missing day for 5 months now, :lol:

The pit stop in Fortaleza must have been either 12 or 36 hours.  Phil announces that Ken and Tina were the first to arrive at 12:51PM so they will be departing at 12:51AM.  12 seems more likely, with a 36 hour rest after La Paz when teams will surely need it.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 13, 2008, 02:57:45 PM
ONE RACER FALLS DURING A DETOUR AND FEARS SHE MAY HAVE BROKEN HER ARM, WHILE ANOTHER TEAM STARTS TO FALL APART EMOTIONALLY, ON "THE AMAZING RACE 13," SUNDAY, OCT. 19
"I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?" - While navigating a tricky Detour, one Racer takes a hard fall and injures her arm, while another Team struggles to keep their relationship intact, on THE AMAZING RACE 13, Sunday, Oct. 19 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
 
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 13, 2008, 03:54:22 PM
As most of you know. 4/29 is MIA before our teams resurfuce in Santiago airport 4/30.

Since it now appears that Forteleza was an extended (18 hour?) pitstop, I am relooking at our previous thought that La Paz must be an extended Pitstop. Two back to back seems strange, as Chateau also noted.

So just for completeness, took a quick look at some bus info, but it seems to take too long to me.

HERE (http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa;jsessionid=081F2E8225D19ED7905D2D78D5564F8F.thorntree4?messageID=14495199) and HERE (http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g294072-i5798-k790168-La_Paz_to_Santiago-La_Paz.html)

I still think that TPTB would want the teams in Santiago in good time to avoid any chance of them missing the crucial NZ flight, but can't explain why they are seen arriving at the airport in two waves tired and dirty as per Justin.

Any other ides? I have been obsessing about this missing day for 5 months now, :lol:

The pit stop in Fortaleza must have been either 12 or 36 hours.  Phil announces that Ken and Tina were the first to arrive at 12:51PM so they will be departing at 12:51AM.  12 seems more likely, with a 36 hour rest after La Paz when teams will surely need it.
Chateau, I believe it was him, has discovered that the Fortaleza pitstop was indeed 18 hours .. you can't get anything past him, lol
eta: it was apskips not Chateau that gave us the 18 hour pitstop.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 13, 2008, 05:59:50 PM
As most of you know. 4/29 is MIA before our teams resurfuce in Santiago airport 4/30.

Since it now appears that Forteleza was an extended (18 hour?) pitstop, I am relooking at our previous thought that La Paz must be an extended Pitstop. Two back to back seems strange, as Chateau also noted.

So just for completeness, took a quick look at some bus info, but it seems to take too long to me.

HERE (http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa;jsessionid=081F2E8225D19ED7905D2D78D5564F8F.thorntree4?messageID=14495199) and HERE (http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g294072-i5798-k790168-La_Paz_to_Santiago-La_Paz.html)

I still think that TPTB would want the teams in Santiago in good time to avoid any chance of them missing the crucial NZ flight, but can't explain why they are seen arriving at the airport in two waves tired and dirty as per Justin.

Any other ides? I have been obsessing about this missing day for 5 months now, :lol:

The pit stop in Fortaleza must have been either 12 or 36 hours.  Phil announces that Ken and Tina were the first to arrive at 12:51PM so they will be departing at 12:51AM.  12 seems more likely, with a 36 hour rest after La Paz when teams will surely need it.

I have another group of thoughts about this subject. It is not possible that there was an extended pitstop in Fortaleza beyond the 18 hours we are sure of because pitstops have nnever gone to 42 hours and 42 hours is the only way other than 18 hours that fits the available data points. A new idea that occurred to me is having the ride to that dinner of the teams in LaPaz after arrival culminate in a 24 hour rest stop not shown in episode 3. If they start this 4/27 evening they will be taken to the "sleep on the sidewalk" task at the same time the evening of April 28, wake up on 4/29 and complete their LaPaz tasks before noon on 4/29. That makes their release from the pitstop before midnight and their flights out of LaPaz on the morning of April 30.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2008, 06:05:55 PM
Wasn't that dinner in Forteleza though??  ???


Gosh, I need to rewatch everything!! :happy:
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 13, 2008, 06:09:11 PM
Didn't CBS put it out (on their map) that the stop was Te Puke? If that's to be trusted, then I've found some shots from the nearby Papamoa hills that bear some resemblance (no match yet).

nice view, from what I've seen Papamoa Hills it is perfect Slowhatch  :kuss:

From what I know about Mt. Maunganui, the mountain in the background of the photo beneath the one with Phil and his father standing is Mt. Maunganui. It has that odd shape.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2008, 06:16:22 PM
Mt Maunganui:

Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 13, 2008, 06:22:33 PM
Wasn't that dinner in Forteleza though??  ???


Gosh, I need to rewatch everything!! :happy:

Even if it were in Fortaleza, that does not diminsh the possibility that they could have had a 24 hour rest break on arrival in LaPaz. There is ample justification for this special extraordinary action and it has to do with altitude acclimatization. The only chance to acclimatize to 11,000 to 13,000 feet would have been for 24 hours between the evning of April 27 and the evening of April 28.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 13, 2008, 06:43:18 PM
Why is is so important to find out if La Paz is a extended pitstop or not? We know they go to NZ next so whats the point? Maybe you all can take this to the timeline, or the EP3 thread.

So if Kiwi stomping  is a Detour then DAndrew switched tasks?


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/003810-13-2008.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/004510-13-2008.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/004610-13-2008.jpg)
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Belle Book on October 13, 2008, 06:53:04 PM
Next on The Amazing Race:
I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?
A team is stranded on the side of the road. Will the aid of a local save their Race?
Teammates clash as one accuses the other of behaving like a dictator.
One racer wipes out and fears broken bones. Will they push through the pain to reach the Pit Stop

Clue #1 definitely seems like Aja & Ty.  The local probably saves their race.  Clue #2 may also refer to Aja & Ty, considering their friction at the airport, but I'm not certain.  Clue #3 refers to Starr.  I don't think she broke any bones (lucky her), and she and Nick will make the Pit Stop before the last-place team.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: patlini on October 13, 2008, 09:11:12 PM
Teammates clash as one accuses the other of behaving like a dictator.

this is Aja and Ty on the preview he was calling her Castro

also on the latest preview on the cbs site, the roadblock is match a maori print to a maori. 
Christy takes it for the Divorcees, looks like she didn't want to and Kelly had to push her

and i agree puddin that the detours are squish it or wind it, Kiwi wine? or the wind sails thingy. 

also Nick states that they are all on the same flight so it will be a dash for the marked cars
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: michael on October 13, 2008, 09:21:48 PM
can somebody youtube the latest previews for me? I can't view them!
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 13, 2008, 09:25:46 PM
These won't work for you Michael?

this will do for now

EP 4 preview!


Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Boingo on October 13, 2008, 09:29:58 PM
Why is is so important to find out if La Paz is a extended pitstop or not? We know they go to NZ next so whats the point? Maybe you all can take this to the timeline, or the EP3 thread.

So if Kiwi stomping  is a Detour then DAndrew switched tasks?


If the kiwi stomping task is true, then it's a "made for TAR' thing... how lame.  :groan:

Kiwi stomping video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbhPtfdWiyA)   :lol:
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: michael on October 13, 2008, 09:31:09 PM
oh, thanks puddin, that worked for me!

So, does the roadblock or detour come first?

Andrew and Dan appear to switch detours....
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Kiwi Jay on October 13, 2008, 11:10:30 PM
The Pitstop isnt Mt Maunganui. I live around 1 minute from it and the picture of Phil and his dad isnt like the Mount. It is surrounded by water and the only place it isnt is a city so it cannot be. I am sure! If they came to Tauranga

MY HOME TOWN SINCE BIRTH. I WILL  :knuckles: GO FRIGGIN NUTS

I have always dreamed of seeing them racing. So if they came here I will die
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 13, 2008, 11:20:31 PM
The Pitstop isnt Mt Maunganui. I live around 1 minute from it and the picture of Phil and his dad isnt like the Mount. It is surrounded by water and the only place it isnt is a city so it cannot be. I am sure! If they came to Tauranga

MY HOME TOWN SINCE BIRTH. I WILL  :knuckles: GO FRIGGIN NUTS

I have always dreamed of seeing them racing. So if they came here I will die
We don't think the pitstop is Mt Maunganui, we think Papamoa Hills might be and we see Maunganui in the distance. Is that right Kiwi?
........so tell us Kiwi, have you ever stomped Kiwi's? :D

Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Kiwi Jay on October 14, 2008, 01:13:15 AM
I have at Kiwi360 formerly known as Kiwi Country. I loved stomping the Kiwifruit and putting the juices into the jar!
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Kiwi Jay on October 14, 2008, 01:14:51 AM
and puddin omg it is! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: gator27 on October 14, 2008, 06:12:04 AM
Why is is so important to find out if La Paz is a extended pitstop or not? We know they go to NZ next so whats the point? Maybe you all can take this to the timeline, or the EP3 thread.

So if Kiwi stomping  is a Detour then DAndrew switched tasks?


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/003810-13-2008.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/004510-13-2008.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/004610-13-2008.jpg)

Maybe watching Starr almost break her arm convinced them to stomp kiwis!

An alternative would be a U-turn in this episode causing the Frat boys to do the other Detour too (I think this is unlikely).
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 14, 2008, 07:27:48 AM
I have at Kiwi360 formerly known as Kiwi Country. I loved stomping the Kiwifruit and putting the juices into the jar!

Jay,
The question is not whether kiwi stomping is done in the artificial environment of Kiwi360. It is whether kiwi fruit juice is routinely available in grocery stores all over new Zealand. Is it? It sure wasn't long ago when I had my only visit to New Zealand.

I am with puddin on this subject- "If the kiwi stomping task is true, then it's a "made for TAR' thing... how lame." unless you can tell me that grocery stores routinely carry kiwi juice products. I look forward to your answer.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 14, 2008, 08:51:53 AM
I disagree. We know based on the Intro cap that they go to Kiwi360. If kiwi stomping is a routine option there, which it must be if our kiwi has done it there, then it is not a "made for TAR" option, right?

Whether you can buy the juice in stores would seem to have nothing to do with the availability of the chance to stomp, IMO....
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: elopes on October 14, 2008, 01:41:15 PM
It would be a v. interesting twist to the race if there are U-turns in back-to-back episodes... and at the same time I think it's very plausible that the frat boys switched detours after seeing Starr's arm.  My vote is they chickened out  :funny:
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 14, 2008, 02:00:40 PM
Starr & Nick are sneaky, she could have faked she was hurt to make DAndrew switch tasks. Thats something Romber would do and I compare the siblings to them, lol.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: michael on October 14, 2008, 02:05:55 PM
Starr & Nick are sneaky, she could have faked she was hurt to make DAndrew switch tasks. Thats something Romber would do and I compare the siblings to them, lol.

Does the RB or Detour come first puddin? or do we not know?

Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: randomnzer on October 14, 2008, 02:32:38 PM
I have at Kiwi360 formerly known as Kiwi Country. I loved stomping the Kiwifruit and putting the juices into the jar!

Jay,
The question is not whether kiwi stomping is done in the artificial environment of Kiwi360. It is whether kiwi fruit juice is routinely available in grocery stores all over new Zealand. Is it? It sure wasn't long ago when I had my only visit to New Zealand.

I am with puddin on this subject- "If the kiwi stomping task is true, then it's a "made for TAR' thing... how lame." unless you can tell me that grocery stores routinely carry kiwi juice products. I look forward to your answer.

There are a number of smaller juice producers who routinely sell Kiwifruit juice in local supermarkets (grocery stores), cafes, restaurants and so on around New Zealand. They are usually blended with other fruits rather than being sold on its own - i.e. with cheaper juices like apple. Obviously it is processed in clean factories, rather than by using the "stomping" method. Enzafoods (http://www.enzafoods.co.nz/products/Other/Kiwifruit/) is one local producer which exports a lot of juice products offshore, predominantly to Asia.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 14, 2008, 02:51:12 PM
Are we sure that "stomping" is even a Detour?

Could it be a "do this to get your clue" task instead, which might explain seeing the frats doing both....
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 14, 2008, 02:52:46 PM
Starr & Nick are sneaky, she could have faked she was hurt to make DAndrew switch tasks. Thats something Romber would do and I compare the siblings to them, lol.

Does the RB or Detour come first puddin? or do we not know?



Why are you asking me  :lol:? Teams arrive at night, drive to Gulf Harbor, Phil says .............(look below, but do we believe Phil after last week?). So Roadblock first? I haven't thought about it too much, its only Tuesday. We know theres a Fast Forward as well  :sucks

Phil interview:
•Q: You're also going back to your birthplace, New Zealand, the adventure capital of the world, for the third time. What new thrills can we expect to see?
•A: New Zealanders are very proud of their indigenous Maori culture, and we were looking to get something of that in the show. We ended up having the teams search for Maori warriors on an extinct volcano (near Auckland), and it was the most magical morning when they arrived: As the sun was rising, there were these warriors doing the haka (a traditional war dance) with a magnificent rainbow over the top of the hill.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: michael on October 14, 2008, 02:54:08 PM
Are we sure that "stomping" is even a Detour?

Could it be a "do this to get your clue" task instead, which might explain seeing the frats doing both....

That could be it ..
But I say it's a detour because the way Andrew and Dan are complaining about it it makes it sound as though they have another option that they would rather be doing...which could explain why the end up switching?

Starr & Nick are sneaky, she could have faked she was hurt to make DAndrew switch tasks. Thats something Romber would do and I compare the siblings to them, lol.

Does the RB or Detour come first puddin? or do we not know?



Why are you asking me  :lol:? Teams arrive at night, drive to Gulf Harbor, Phil says .............(look below, but do we believe Phil after last week?). So Roadblock first? I haven't thought about it too much, its only Tuesday. We know theres a Fast Forward as well  :sucks

Phil interview:
•Q: You're also going back to your birthplace, New Zealand, the adventure capital of the world, for the third time. What new thrills can we expect to see?
•A: New Zealanders are very proud of their indigenous Maori culture, and we were looking to get something of that in the show. We ended up having the teams search for Maori warriors on an extinct volcano (near Auckland), and it was the most magical morning when they arrived: As the sun was rising, there were these warriors doing the haka (a traditional war dance) with a magnificent rainbow over the top of the hill.

Oh, ok then I'll say the RB is first.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 14, 2008, 02:55:02 PM
Are we sure that "stomping" is even a Detour?

Could it be a "do this to get your clue" task instead, which might explain seeing the frats doing both....
No, no we don't, lol. But this isn't TARA so I would guess its a detour but who knows? We had the random newspaper/hat thing last week so then again ??
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: patlini on October 14, 2008, 03:05:19 PM
guys may have already been referenced

so the FF is the skytower thingy?  and momson do it.

also reading through the notes a team misses the bus so is delayed a day.  yet they are self driving  :duno:

pinks go for the FF and miss it?
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: gator27 on October 14, 2008, 03:07:40 PM
176 Parton Road (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=176+parton+road,+papamoa,+nz&sll=-37.718,176.308358&sspn=0.002457,0.005665&ie=UTF8&ll=-37.718013,176.308422&spn=0.002457,0.005665&t=h&z=18), as mentioned by Apskip and others.

Any idea how far the blokart track is from where they stomp kiwis (?kiwi360?)?

It looks like DAndrew are putting together a blokart when Starr crashes.  If the kiwi stomp is next door, maybe they bail pretty quickly.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 14, 2008, 03:15:49 PM
FF is Skytower but unknown if it is a walk or bungy or whatever.

Where did we hear Mom /son as FF'ers please?? ???  As far as I remember, the only evidence we have of anyone doing it is the number one on the board missing, and it is unclear if that related to the actual in progress task, or the production guys fooling around at some other time beforehand.

I believe it was "missing the bus or something" similar...so bus may not be exact, IIRC.  I'll recheck tonight when I get home.

Re blokart, slowhatch gave us a map and it is VERY close to kiwi360 I think.

(Sorry, I'm at work and can't access my full info/pics here...)
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 14, 2008, 03:16:09 PM
About 15 minutes away from the map that I searched gator.
Driving directions to Kiwi360
9.1 km – about 14 mins
 176 Parton RdPapamoa Beach, Bay of Plenty 3187, New Zealand

1. Head south on Parton Rd toward Bell Rd 1.7 km
2. Turn right at Bell Rd 0.7 km
3. Turn left at SH 2 5.2 km
4. Continue on Jellicoe St 1.4 km
5. Turn right at Cameron Rd 0.2 km
 Kiwi360
State Highway 2Te Puke, New Zealand, New Zealand

and Patlini, the mom/son taking the Fast Forward is my guess but I like your thoughts.

eta: if Papamoa is the pitstop its right there, by the Detours so yeah perhaps Roadblock then Detours.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: michael on October 14, 2008, 03:20:16 PM
I don't even know why I was asking about the order rb/detours lol...

It could be a "make your way on foot to the pitstop" once they complete the detours puddin...

Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 14, 2008, 03:23:55 PM
its not as close as you think Michael (using the Mt as a referrence point only, that is not the pitstop)

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Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 14, 2008, 03:26:28 PM
from One Tree Hill to Mt Maunganui (using the Mt as a referrence point only, that is not the pitstop)

under 3 hours by car



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Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: michael on October 14, 2008, 03:40:08 PM
lol, ok nvm....no making their way on foot then  :lol:
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 14, 2008, 04:04:33 PM
I'm on my laptop Michael and all my good junk is on the desktop, I'll try to do a better map later although I am not a map person so if someone wants a go at it please do.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Kiwi Jay on October 14, 2008, 11:46:21 PM
I asked my parents who have lived in Tauranga for a combined amount of 77 yrs. They have told me that they believe the photo of Phil and his father are indeed atop the Papamoa hills!
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: sayurkangkung on October 15, 2008, 12:07:08 AM
Found this in Kiwilowes.blogspot.com
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd1/grossglockner/simononpaphills.jpg)

Is that the same ?


Here is another one, from Flickr
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd1/grossglockner/2328842024_2a7a802730-1.jpg)
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 15, 2008, 07:17:39 AM
I'm on my laptop Michael and all my good junk is on the desktop, I'll try to do a better map later although I am not a map person so if someone wants a go at it please do.

puddin, I am a map person and will see what I can do. However, the map you provided tells everything that's needed except the distances. I can't find one with distances, so here is a slightly different version of the map you provided:
New Zealand North Island Map (http://www.nztourmaps.com/new_zealand_accommodation.php)

I can center the map on the part west and north from Tauranga but that is not the way it comes(although the resolution is good the way it comes). You have to manually take the control up about 6 times until you are have Hamilton on your view. Then you pan east once until Tauranga is on the right edge.

What that shows is two routes for getting from the Auckland area to Tauranga. The one you showed is:
route 1 south to
route 2 east
after a small distance 2 turns left and route 27 begins
follow route 27 to Matamata and take route 24 there(it cuts the corner)
take route 29 north from its beginning out of route 24 and follow 29 into Tauranga

A probably better alternate(we would need a native such as Kiwijay's parents to say; I will ask my brother-in-law) is:
Continue route 2 east until it turns southeast and then east all the way to Tauranga (and further to Te Puke).
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2008, 10:53:53 AM
The New Zealand MAPS! (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15503.msg301645.html#msg301645) are updated...

Both the GE map and the Interactive Map of the Bay of Plenty have distances, in case that helps.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 15, 2008, 11:24:53 AM
I have carefully listened to the 1 minute CBS preview of episode 4. Kan clearly states that they are driving a marked car to "Gulf Harbour". It took a long time to find out where that is(near Whangaparoa, Bay of Whales) but here is the dirving direction(north):

Gulf Harbour, close to many
wonderful beaches, just 15 minutes from Orewa,
25 minutes from North Shore City and
35 minutes North of Auckland City.

So I believe that the Maori event may not be on a volcano near Auckland but is near Gulf Harbor.

I will work more to get more specific directions from Auckland International Airport
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: snap-on on October 15, 2008, 11:35:49 AM
if Starr really broke her arm then Christy will say Hallelujah  :meow:
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: elopes on October 15, 2008, 11:38:14 AM
Maybe they do something at the Gulf Harbor even BEFORE the Maori thing. From what I read, it really sounded like Maoris are at the volcano...
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: michael on October 15, 2008, 12:08:59 PM
Well, from the preview it looks like Christy and Andrew are doing the roadblock really early in the morning...
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 15, 2008, 12:18:13 PM
Michael, please recall that their plane lands at 355am May 2 at Auckland international Airport. Where else could they go? They almost certainly get right into their tasks.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: michael on October 15, 2008, 12:19:48 PM
Michael, please recall that their plane lands at 355am May 2 at Auckland international Airport. Where else could they go? They almost certainly get right into their tasks.

that's what im saying....
the road block looks really early in the morning (before sun rise) ...
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 15, 2008, 12:21:27 PM
I have found where Gulf Harbour is. It is slightly southeast of Orewa. Here is the map of the Whangaparoa Peninsula, with Gulf Harbour in the middle:
Gulf Harbour New Zealand North Island (http://www.whangaparaoanz.com/)

Driving directions from Auckland International Airport to Gulf Harbour are:

route 20B from the airport to link with route 20 north, which intersects with Route 1 north. Route 1 goes near the center of Auckland, over a bridge to the North Shore, and continues. At Silverdale, turn right on the Whangaparoa road. Gulf Harbour is about halfway out that peninsula.

Here is a link to a good Auckland area interactive map to apply those directions to- http://www.aucklandnz.com/images/uploads/file/Regional%20Map.pdf

If it calls for it(which it almost certainly will), driving directions to connect up with earlier directions from Route 1 on the south side of Auckland are:

reverse the route, taking the Whangaparoa road back to route 1 south. Follow Route 1 back over that bridge and to the south side of Auckland, then continuing on route 2 or route 2, 27, 24 and 29 to Tauranga.

There is a ferry from Auckland to Gulf Harbour, but it is not likely to have played a role in AR13 because teams drive marked cars.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 15, 2008, 12:31:01 PM
I was thinking that they find their first clue box at the Gulf Harbor and again, we encounter some sort of hours of operation. Phil tells us pretty much that the Maori are at One Tree Hill right?

54.3 km – about 1 hour 1 min
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 15, 2008, 12:55:40 PM
I was thinking that they find their first clue box at the Gulf Harbor and again, we encounter some sort of hours of operation. Phil tells us pretty much that the Maori are at One Tree Hill right?

54.3 km – about 1 hour 1 min

puddin:

Yes and either route 20 or route 1 goes adjacent to One Tree Hill on the south side of central Aukland and the other isn't far from it.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: patlini on October 15, 2008, 01:44:12 PM
so the first clue at gulf habour holds the FF clue.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 15, 2008, 01:58:37 PM
Here patlini, if this helps, dug up from the spoilers thread ..

Oh, daylight saving! So he probably didn't adjust his camera clock - it's showing the same time in Russia's DST, all over the world.

Following this, Phil was at Tonle Sap on 4 May at 7.19am, and Mom/Son at 9.26am. Works into the grand scheme of things!

Teams arrive in Auckland morning of the 2nd and have a leg there. While they are having their Pit Stop, Phil sneaks onto a flight on the morning of the 3rd (thanks Apskip). As our racers get released, they take afternoon flights towards Cambodia, and get snagged on Hours of Operation that evening. The Cambodia leg then starts proper on the morning of the 4th - dragging on to give us the 11.30ish sightings at Angkor Wat!

Teams leave on the morning of the 6th, so something must have held up the teams. An extended Pit Stop (as mentioned earlier)? Highly possible.



The blurry Auckland Sky Tower would have been taken at 3am, 28 Apr; the jumpsuit girl at 3.20pm the next day; and Maori guy 7.07pm on 30 Apr. The Fast Forward's ready for use, and maybe even used (missing #1 tag), 2 May 6.51am. Does this make sense? (Something tells me the timings should be slightly later.)



Based on that time offset for his camera, the first blurry photo of the sky tower taken at night is quite likely to be taken when the crew first arrived in NZ cos 18:58 +6hrs gives a time of around 1am on 04/28

The Maori guy's pictures are around 17:00 on 04/30 and may be able to be confirmed from the watch picture below?

But this makes the photos of the Fast Forward and the blonde girl between 04:50am and 6am, which given the sky walk is usually open between 10am to 4.30pm, and it is winter time too, seems a bit unusual. I would have thought doing it in the dark wouldn't be as scarey cos you couldn't see the ground. :duno:

Neobie, I think you have it correct. LAN801 landed around 0355 on May 2 at Auckland International Airport. A Fast Forward dash would have ensued, with arrival in the 5am time frame by whichever teams went fof it. We know that at least one team did and that any others teams did nto stay at the Sky Tower.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: patlini on October 15, 2008, 02:23:20 PM
Cheers puddin

so they get the FF clue in La Paz, then have a lot of time to mull over it...
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2008, 02:37:31 PM
I am having trouble with that Gulf Harbor being so far North?

They have to be on top of whichever extinct Volcano it is (needs to be one with Maori connections as well, that's why I like One Tree Hill but it could be any of them I guess) by DAWN and I don't think they can make it if they drive way up there first, which is what I think Michael is trying to say as well.

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New Zealanders are very proud of their indigenous Maori culture, and we were looking to get something of that in the show. We ended up having the teams search for Maori warriors on an extinct volcano (near Auckland), and it was the most magical morning when they arrived: As the sun was rising, there were these warriors doing the haka (a traditional war dance) with a magnificent rainbow over the top of the hill.

There just is no way they can arr 0355, get thru customs, drive north to Gulf Harbor (which seens to be a golf place and their website is down or they are out of business), turn around and drive back to One Tree Hill (or Mt Eden or whichever) , do a 20-30 minute climb to the summit, and be there by dawn.

So I think either we have the wrong Gulf Harbor or the wrong Volcano--maybe there is a Volcano up there? :duno:

And I think selwyn told us they drive south into the North Island but I need to double check that....  YEP, SOUTH it was:
 "I am not totally sure where they traveled, but it was out of Auckland south into the North Island (this would fit with Tauranga or Rotorua, or both)."
This is based on reports from crews....

Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 15, 2008, 02:47:24 PM
It is logical tha things might go something like this:

1. Teams land at Auckland International Airport and are on their way in marked cars between 430am and 5am
2. Teams drive to Gulf Harbour, arriving at approximately 530am to 6am based on the fact that is is night and traffic is light
3. There may or may not be a task in Gulf Harbor, but teams definitely get a clue there.
4. Whoever reaches the Fast Forward first goes and does that. Is it possible that that task is the SKy Tower jump?
5. Next should be the Maori match on One Tree Hill; if there were no task in Gulf Harbour then teams would be in the morning rush hour and maybe take 1.5 hours to reach it; if so, then they would be on One Tree Hill by about 7am until however long the task took added on to that
6. Teams leave One Tree Hill probably 30 minutes later to get to Papamao on the Bay of Plenty. This should take about 2.5 hours to reach the Blokart track DETOUR (it can't be a Roadblock because both Starr and Nick were doing it). What is the other DETOUR task? Can it be the kiwi stomping at kiwi360 in Te Puke?
7. The pitstop occurs after the detour and would be either 20 minutes away from Papamao or 5 mintues away from Kiwi360

Adding up the best possible  times for Blokart track detour, I add on 3 hours + track time + time to Te Puke. I get as early as about 1130am. With the drive time to TePuke about 15 minutes longer, that is balanced out by the Blockart teams having to drive an extra 15 minutes to reach the pitstop.  The earliest possible completion time from the Kiwi360 DETOUR choice should be about the same 1130am.  

We know that there is a wide variation of actual times to reach Auckland Airport, so the ideal times only apply to some teams. With a 24 hour pitstop and a 2.5 hour drive back to that airport, that puts teams into the afternoon of Sunday May 3 for departures to Cambodia.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2008, 02:51:20 PM
Pitstop?
Papamoa Hills Regional Park (Te Rae o Papamoa)
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From the park visitors can see Mauao (Mount Maunganui) and the Tauranga harbour in the west through to Putauaki (Mount Edgecumbe) and Moutohora (Whale Island) in the east.

Papamoa hill is the highest point on the ridge (224m above sea level).

The Park can be seen from the coastline and from a wide area of the surrounding plains.

The Bay of Plenty’s first regional park, the Papamoa Hills Regional Park or Te Rae o Papamoa, opened to the public in July 2004. The focus of the Park is the rich Maori cultural history. It has a large number of archaeological sites and has many historical and ancestral associations.

http://www.envbop.govt.nz/Parks/Papamoa-Hills.asp


Walking
 
 There is one walking track from the car park to the summit. It takes 45 mins to reach the summit and the track rises steeply through pine forest up to the open ridge.

Visitors may use any of the Park land. Sunscreen and a sun hat for sunny days and good walking shoes are recommended.

There is an information board at the car park that provides further information about using the park.

Opening hours
 

Opens: 7.30am
Closes: 6.00pm (winter)  8.30pm (summer)

How to get there
 

Distance from Tauranga: 20km (20minutes)
Distance from Rotorua: 65km (45minutes)
Distance from Whakatane: 80km (60minutes)

From Tauranga, travel east on State Highway 2 towards Whakatane. About 1 km past the Papamoa/Bell Road turn-off on the left, turn right into Poplar Lane. The carpark access is on the right, before you reach the quarry gate.

From Rotorua, travel towards Te Puke via Tokerau. The park is 5 km after Te Puke on the left. Turn left from SH2 into Poplar Lane.

From Whakatane, follow State Highway 2 towards Tauranga. The park is 5km after Te Puke on the left.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 15, 2008, 02:55:36 PM
Peach:

If you read the above analysis it indicates that teams should reach "the volcano" around 7am. On May 2, 2008 sunrise in Auckland was at 701am which is pretty consistent with what you indicate is needed. And team arrival there might be up to 30 minutes faster if the rush hour traffic from the North Shore into Auckland is better than I expected because it was Saturday and there should be no rush hour. I will ask the expert, someone who lives on the North Shore and works at Auckland International Airport, and let you know.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2008, 03:06:30 PM
I was typing this as you replied, lol. I would love for someone to do a dry run on this and let us know...

SUNRISE/SUNSET 5/2
May 2, 2008 7:01 AM 5:34 PM

But I still don't think they can do it apskip... 

Can't get out of airport, drive NORTH, drive back SOUTH, climb hill, be there by dawn...

Something is wrong somewhere, isn't it?

Remember they have to climb whichever hill which will take 15-45 minutes depending on which one it is...

Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Boingo on October 15, 2008, 03:26:10 PM
 :sucks  pretty map per puddin's request
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2008, 03:43:28 PM
Thanks Boingo! Looks like your maps are in demand today, :lol:

Gulf Harbor:

PICTURES

MAP

but no volcano, lol....

http://www.whangaparaoanz.com/html/gulf_harbour.html

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013%20MAPS/TAR13ep4MAPGulfHarbor.jpg)
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: elopes on October 15, 2008, 04:03:39 PM
I vote for apskip's itinerary, mostly because it will be one of the first things I've been right about since joining this site :)
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: patlini on October 15, 2008, 04:23:35 PM
Gulf harbor sticks out on that map as being the odd man out.

Yet we hear it said by one of the teams in the car in the dark.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 15, 2008, 04:46:26 PM
Peach,
I stand by my analysis. It is less than 50km from Auckland International Airport to Gulf Harbour. It should take slightly less than one hour each way early on a Saturday morning for the leading teams to get to Gulf Harbour and to return from Gulf Harbour to One Tree Hill. Lagging teams will take more time. I am assuming no time at Gulf Harbour other than trivial to locate the cluebox. I would say it's a good bet for the leading teams to make it to One Tree Hill by around 630am. What part of this analysis don't you agree with?
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 15, 2008, 05:12:34 PM
:sucks  pretty map per puddin's request
:jumpy: leapin lizards!! and I thank you very much Boingo  :hearts: :jam:

peach, when selwyn states they drive south that can mean any number of things........

using my crappy map North to South, out of Auckland to Tauranga or Rotorua, or both

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I am not totally sure where they traveled, but it was out of Auckland south into the North Island (this would fit with Tauranga or Rotorua, or both)."
This is based on reports from crews....
 

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17653.0;attach=110693;image)
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: banzai on October 15, 2008, 05:15:09 PM
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v162525537ZRWN9Gm?rank=0&order=

or

http://www.dailymotion.com/banzai2k/video/x7353g_tar-13-phils-diary-3-new-zealand_travel


Phil's diary is up and you can see a little bit of the pitstop.

Barry is back too.  :jumpy: :hearts:
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Slowhatch on October 15, 2008, 05:42:04 PM
Thanks for the video.  :tup: It's edited to to present this farm/grazing area as looking in the opposite direction from the pit stop.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 15, 2008, 06:15:22 PM
haha his dad is great!!  :hearts:

when ready

Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2008, 06:30:00 PM
Hmmm...that makes it look like a private location, doesn't it?

Who can find the sheep in GE? :lol3:

And Phil's Dad is the best!! :hearts:
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2008, 07:21:52 PM
I was thinking that they find their first clue box at the Gulf Harbor and again, we encounter some sort of hours of operation. Phil tells us pretty much that the Maori are at One Tree Hill right?
54.3 km – about 1 hour 1 min

Well, can't deny that we hear them say go to Gulf Harbor, so Gulf Harbor it is.

I just think the time is going to be way tight. But maybe "dawn" was used euphemistically and early AM would have done as well. :duno:

Re the One Tree Hill thing...

Phil tells us that we are going to an extinct volcano near Auckland and they wanted to tie in the maori element.
 
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New Zealanders are very proud of their indigenous Maori culture, and we were looking to get something of that in the show. We ended up having the teams search for Maori warriors on an extinct volcano (near Auckland), and it was the most magical morning when they arrived: As the sun was rising, there were these warriors doing the haka (a traditional war dance) with a magnificent rainbow over the top of the hill.



One Tree Hill is one of the extinct volcano cones AND is an  ancient Maori pa (or settlement) site.
360 view: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzrlUoCPrv8

BUT there is also Mt Eden (http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/whatson/places/parks/mteden.asp) and more here (http://www.viewauckland.co.nz/mt_eden_auckland_index.html).


And Rangitoto (http://www.gns.cri.nz/what/earthact/volcanoes/arc/rang.html) (the largest)

and Mt Wellington in an Auckland suburb:
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Mt. Wellington is situated in the Mt. Wellington Domain. It is one of Aucklands volcano’s, but not so ‘overcrowded’ with tourists and guided tours.

To reach the top and lookout you have to walk a couple of hundred metres, but your reward is a splendid view over the city and the Hauraki Gulf with the islands. Specially Rangitoto and Waiheke are rather close to Mount Wellington.
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/7c27b/1cbfbb/6/

and maybe 50 smaller ones around.

So it would be great if one of the GE guys (Chateau, Boingo, Slowhatch) could compare the sightline of the coast to the views from the tops and confirm. I've put several views from each in the thread already...

I think it is One Tree Hill (I think the Christy on the path shot matches the wall), but I am not as good at the GE stuff to be able to say for sure.


edited to add in Mt Wellington
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 15, 2008, 08:11:29 PM
facing West I think..

(http://i35.[banned image hosting site].com/68d6kn.jpg)
(http://i38.[banned image hosting site].com/10qcv0x.jpg)
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Slowhatch on October 15, 2008, 08:27:28 PM
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Hmmm...that makes it look like a private location, doesn't it?
Private/public, I think. I'll keep the crow handy in case I get hungry Sun. night, but I'm going to go ahead and say it's Summerhill Recreational Farm (http://www.reservenewzealand.co.nz/Tauranga/Summerhill_Recreational_Farm_Tracks_ov=2622_.html) (319 Reid road, about five miles (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=176+parton+road,+papamoa,+new+zealand&daddr=319+Reid+Rd,+Papamoa,+3187,+New+Zealand&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=-37.73451,176.278639&sspn=0.019651,0.045319&ie=UTF8&ll=-37.72633,176.289539&spn=0.039307,0.090637&t=h&z=14) from the Blokart track). More here (http://www.adventurebop.co.nz/Our+Tours/Mountain+Biking+Tours/Summerhill.html), photo here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chalass/1341192442/sizes/o/).
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 15, 2008, 08:40:41 PM
More Blokart when ready

Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 15, 2008, 08:42:27 PM
could one Detour be assemble or do we think they are tied together as one detour?

Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: patlini on October 15, 2008, 09:48:21 PM
i think its assemble and then ride, like the bikes in Geneva in TAR3
and the kiwi juice is fill x bottles

hopefully not drink - ewwwwww
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2008, 10:09:35 PM
Quote
Hmmm...that makes it look like a private location, doesn't it?
Private/public, I think. I'll keep the crow handy in case I get hungry Sun. night, but I'm going to go ahead and say it's Summerhill Recreational Farm (http://www.reservenewzealand.co.nz/Tauranga/Summerhill_Recreational_Farm_Tracks_ov=2622_.html) (319 Reid road, about five miles (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=176+parton+road,+papamoa,+new+zealand&daddr=319+Reid+Rd,+Papamoa,+3187,+New+Zealand&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=-37.73451,176.278639&sspn=0.019651,0.045319&ie=UTF8&ll=-37.72633,176.289539&spn=0.039307,0.090637&t=h&z=14) from the Blokart track). More here (http://www.adventurebop.co.nz/Our+Tours/Mountain+Biking+Tours/Summerhill.html), photo here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chalass/1341192442/sizes/o/).

Slowhatch!! I think you have it!! Oh my!! :jumpy: :jumpy:

AND they are in GE!! I don't know how to attach a kmz but they are there and it looks just like it!!  :wohoo: :wohoo:

Heee....I see sheep!

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13ep4SummerhillFarminGE.jpg)

and that means that the mini mt in the background is Motiti Island...
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2008, 10:12:34 PM
could one Detour be assemble or do we think they are tied together as one detour?



And they have to do 3 laps...
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 15, 2008, 11:07:15 PM
Good job Slowhatch! No reason to eat crow, ever! You rock!  :sucks


there was a short preview during Letterman..lets see if it helps the "hill"

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Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 15, 2008, 11:17:53 PM

from the clip
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Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Chateau d If on October 16, 2008, 12:12:16 AM
This shot was taken here:

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17653.0;attach=110709;image)
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 16, 2008, 06:53:26 AM
It's time for some New Zealand driving time and route advice from an expert:

The journey(Gulf Harbour to One Tree Hill) is probably around 35 to 45 minutes depending on traffic. At 5.30am I would tend to favour the lower time.

Route 2 (all the way) is the popular route for long weekend traffic [from Auckland to Tauranga]. That is the way I  travel when I have gone down there. (It has been some few years since I have driven down there.)

The former comment leads to a timeline like this:

430am leading teams leave Auckland International Airport
515am leading teams arrive in Gulf Harbour
525am assume cluebox easy to find
600am leading teams arrive at One Tree Hill(assuming that it is the site of the Maori task that appears to be a Roadblock)
700am leading teams depart for Tauranga
1000am leading teams arrive in area(an extra half hour inserted for being a Saturday morning with traffic expected in that direction) and choose DETOUR:Kiwi360 kiwi stomping in Te Puke or Blockart cart assembly and 3 laps in Papamoa
1130am approximate DETOUR finish time for leading teams
1140am leading teams reach pitstop at Summerhill Rec Farms
 

Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: elopes on October 16, 2008, 09:04:57 AM
Not to distract from the route-creation, but Brooke is HILARIOUS when she tries to approach the Maori warrior and gets scared when he yells at her  :hearts: HILARIOUS!!

Carry on  :angel:
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 16, 2008, 09:28:42 AM
That scene hits different people in different ways. I don't think Brooke was actually scared, as she laughed in a high-pitched voice. I think she was startled. Maori warriors with all of their markings (like tattoos) on their bodies do look totally fierce, but Halloween was still 6 months away(Halloween is celebrated in New Zealand on Gut Fawkes Day Nov. 5).
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Chateau d If on October 16, 2008, 10:14:50 AM
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but Halloween was still 6 months away(Halloween is celebrated in New Zealand on Gut Fawkes Day Nov. 5).

Google says:  Did you mean Guy Fawkes Day?
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: gator27 on October 16, 2008, 12:56:09 PM
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Hmmm...that makes it look like a private location, doesn't it?
Private/public, I think. I'll keep the crow handy in case I get hungry Sun. night, but I'm going to go ahead and say it's Summerhill Recreational Farm (http://www.reservenewzealand.co.nz/Tauranga/Summerhill_Recreational_Farm_Tracks_ov=2622_.html) (319 Reid road, about five miles (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=176+parton+road,+papamoa,+new+zealand&daddr=319+Reid+Rd,+Papamoa,+3187,+New+Zealand&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=-37.73451,176.278639&sspn=0.019651,0.045319&ie=UTF8&ll=-37.72633,176.289539&spn=0.039307,0.090637&t=h&z=14) from the Blokart track). More here (http://www.adventurebop.co.nz/Our+Tours/Mountain+Biking+Tours/Summerhill.html), photo here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chalass/1341192442/sizes/o/).

Slowhatch!! I think you have it!! Oh my!! :jumpy: :jumpy:

AND they are in GE!! I don't know how to attach a kmz but they are there and it looks just like it!!  :wohoo: :wohoo:

Heee....I see sheep!

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13ep4SummerhillFarminGE.jpg)

and that means that the mini mt in the background is Motiti Island...

Dang!  I was hoping we were going to Phil's parent's house.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: michael on October 16, 2008, 01:00:44 PM
I hope it's a NEL and the girls survive one more week!!! I like them!
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 16, 2008, 01:24:27 PM
I hope that they do not survive, as I rate them as having have no redeeming qualities or abilities other than being cute. Unfortunately, the probability of a NEL is maybe in the 50% range so they have a good chance of surviving. In addition, "everyone makes the plane from Santiago to Auckland", so they get an even start there. I suspect they do not do well on this leg, but they will statistically have only about a 1/16 chance of being eliminated this leg.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: michael on October 16, 2008, 01:28:34 PM
Where do you get 1/16 chance apskip?

We know Marisa and Brooke are eliminated next, and if there's a 50% chance that it's a NEL, that would make their chances 1/2.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: randomnzer on October 16, 2008, 02:37:02 PM
That scene hits different people in different ways. I don't think Brooke was actually scared, as she laughed in a high-pitched voice. I think she was startled. Maori warriors with all of their markings (like tattoos) on their bodies do look totally fierce, but Halloween was still 6 months away(Halloween is celebrated in New Zealand on Gut Fawkes Day Nov. 5).

Halloween is not celebrated on Guy Fawkes day here (NZ) - Guy Fawkes day is about fireworks, not trick-or-treating.

A small minority of the population celebrate halloween on the same day the Americans do, but it is generally viewed as an over-commercialised event which is a reflection of bad American customs.

Guy Fawkes day is a "celebration" of this person: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_fawkes It is not so much a celebration, but more an excuse to set off fireworks.

Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: patlini on October 16, 2008, 02:48:44 PM
yes growing up in england Guy Fawkes is like July 4 for fireworks

and a big bonfire with the "Guy" on it

sorry to digress

Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 16, 2008, 05:09:40 PM


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Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 16, 2008, 05:14:04 PM
Can't tell, but that might look more like Mt Eden than One tree Hill..  :groan:
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Slowhatch on October 16, 2008, 06:48:16 PM
If it is Mt. Eden, here's a map (http://www.maungawhau.co.nz/downloads.html). But I don't know...
"Match the Moko" is best done in daylight (perhaps why production slow-boated the racers over to Gulf Harbor?). But according to this page (http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Australia_and_Oceania/New_Zealand/North_Island/Auckland_Region/Auckland-1884091/Things_To_Do-Auckland-Mt_Eden-BR-1.html) Eden is a popular spot for tour buses (and city buses 274-275-277 are always zipping by on Mt. Eden rd.). Production would be under some pressure to get it done and get out.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 16, 2008, 06:50:20 PM
facing West I think..

(http://i35.[banned image hosting site].com/68d6kn.jpg)
(http://i38.[banned image hosting site].com/10qcv0x.jpg)
:lol:

This is Mt Eden view
(http://i38.[banned image hosting site].com/30cauiv.jpg)
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 16, 2008, 07:00:10 PM
maybe ya all know this but thats Rangitoto Island from Mount Eden

(http://i34.[banned image hosting site].com/33p7yme.jpg)
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 16, 2008, 07:25:58 PM
The problem is that the view from One tree Hill is pretty similar. I've looked at a pile of
My trip to the volcano" You Tubes and I just can't tell.

That view you did  puddin? looks really really close to me but I think this will take the GE boys to be sure.

I'll never have to take the bus tour that's for sure! :lol:
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 16, 2008, 08:01:18 PM
New commercial, Toni doing the roadblock so I guess my guess that she and Dallas take the FF is wrong *hey it was a guess, lol*

brb with screencaps
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 16, 2008, 08:19:46 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/000010-16-2008-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/000110-16-2008-1.jpg)
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 16, 2008, 08:21:29 PM
conf

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/000210-16-2008-1.jpg)
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 16, 2008, 08:23:12 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/000310-16-2008-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/000410-16-2008-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/000510-16-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep4/000610-16-2008-1.jpg)
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: patlini on October 16, 2008, 08:26:46 PM
lol Puddin, i was there with you

so that leaves  Terence/Sarah or Aja/Ty

cause we see

Toni/Christy/andrew or Dan/pink doing the road block

spanglers doing a detour and Terence/Sarah

so Aja/Ty get the FF even after a flat or because of it
 ???

Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Slowhatch on October 16, 2008, 08:35:57 PM
T/S can be seen at the Kiwi mash; I'm thinking Aja/Ty or Ken/Tina for the FF.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 16, 2008, 08:36:16 PM
We haven't seen Tina and Ken patlini  :jumpy:

Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: patlini on October 16, 2008, 08:43:06 PM
We haven't seen Tina and Ken patlini  :jumpy:


oh yes Puddin i knew i'd forgotten someone thanks  I like them better
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 16, 2008, 08:58:19 PM
T/S can be seen at the Kiwi mash; I'm thinking Aja/Ty or Ken/Tina for the FF.
GMTA !
I like them better too patlini, lol
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 16, 2008, 09:13:36 PM
That scene hits different people in different ways. I don't think Brooke was actually scared, as she laughed in a high-pitched voice. I think she was startled. Maori warriors with all of their markings (like tattoos) on their bodies do look totally fierce, but Halloween was still 6 months away(Halloween is celebrated in New Zealand on Gut Fawkes Day Nov. 5).

Halloween is not celebrated on Guy Fawkes day here (NZ) - Guy Fawkes day is about fireworks, not trick-or-treating.

A small minority of the population celebrate halloween on the same day the Americans do, but it is generally viewed as an over-commercialised event which is a reflection of bad American customs.

Guy Fawkes day is a "celebration" of this person: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_fawkes It is not so much a celebration, but more an excuse to set off fireworks.

Randomizer, well somebody in New Zealand thinks Halloween in New Zealand is celebrated on Guy Fawkes Day:

Halloween Traditions

Halloween from Around the World
Halloween in New Zealand

In New Zealand they celebrate Guy Fawkes Day as the day for Halloween. It is popularly a night for mischief and is called Mischief Night or Danger Night, which is on November 5th.

My source is http://www.jackolanterns.net/newzealandhalloween.htm as reported by AustralianMedia.com








Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Zack. on October 16, 2008, 09:40:57 PM
I bet Ken/Tina take the FF. We know that someone's way behind in leaving NZ and that Aja/Ty were most likely in last place in Cambodia - I'd venture to say that they go for the FF because of their flat tire but get aced out by K/T, losing some time in the process (but not enough to get eliminated? someone else must have messed up bad for that to happen).
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 16, 2008, 11:52:29 PM
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From selwyn:

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It was confirmed from very reliable industry sources, TAR was definitely in New Zealand (Auckland and Middle-North Island) - from April 31 to May 2 or 3. A race spoiler I got was that at least one team missed a bus or similar and arrived at a challenge a day behind other teams (well, the following morning anyhow) - I hear this because the local crew hired to do the POV pickup shots had to revisit the location that morning to get matched lighting conditions.
I do believe that they were on schedule in NZ (so based on the request for drivers, that was April 30th (NZST) to May 2nd, however I expect that at least part of the production crew arrived earlier

The word I heard from my source was that a team 'missed the bus' and didn't arrive somewhere (I got the impression is was a cluebox) until the morning after other teams (although no word on what time of day the other teams got there the previous day).


What if a team missed a flight? Could that put them a day behind? Could that happen? Has anyone mentioned how different the lighting is when the blonds are there?

(yes I'll go read the flights apskips :lol: )

hey peach! the thumbnail codes work now  :yess:
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Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 17, 2008, 12:03:19 AM
heres Justin's stuff, so he for sure saw Christy & Kelly, that goes without saying ..

Santiago, Chile 4/30/08

Teams seen in Santiago Airport:
My flight out of Santiago   by Justin Vorel   
*And as a special bonus the several teams from the Amazing Race through the airport while I was there.

More from Jason
*He was in the airport on April 30th.
*He saw teams, each accompanied by a camera and sound guy start arriving in the early evening.
*They all appeared exhausted and after ticketing at different counters, some went for a bite to eat and some just crashed. He emphasized that he didn't know what they had been doing, but all seemed tired and dirty.
*He saw teams arriving in 2 "waves".
*The first prob 5 to 6 teams (some difficulty sorting out camera people from teams) arriving earlier maybe 4-5PM and the second smaller group of 1 or 2-3 arriving an hour or so later.

Re teams:
*He saw 2 girls he called "the sisters" (but could have been friends also) dressed in blue shirts
*2 younger teams --couples he thinks
*One older gray haired maybe 45 yrs man (unclear here whether racer or production)
*He points out that almost all the Int flights leave Santiago in the eve. He thinks most of the teams were going by 7+ or so. His flight left about 8.

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Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: michael on October 17, 2008, 12:08:31 AM
if there are two flights and Kelly and Christy are on the first one, some one must mess up at the airport because Kelly and Christy will be departing last on Sunday's leg
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 17, 2008, 12:17:08 AM
if there are two flights and Kelly and Christy are on the first one, some one must mess up at the airport because Kelly and Christy will be departing last on Sunday's leg
Well the teams don't fly from La Paz directly to Auckland Michael, so anything can change the order.
This is the only flight I could find, Santiago Chile to Auckland ..posted by apskips

LAN801 2245 0355+2 SCL AKL

Just thinking outloud here, trying to figure out how a team got a day behind.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: michael on October 17, 2008, 12:24:51 AM
ohhh how confusing this is for me lol
i didn't even know anybody was a day behind!

Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Slowhatch on October 17, 2008, 12:32:59 AM
The new P&B blast (http://thebiz.fancast.com/2008/10/the_amazing_race_blog_kynt_vyx_2.html) is up; I mention it here because they include a slightly different look at the pitstop.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: patlini on October 17, 2008, 09:22:10 AM
Puddin, i was pondering the exact same thing on my drive to work

Are the pinkies a day behind

when Nick says we're all on this flight is he leaving out marisa/brooke
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 17, 2008, 10:31:58 AM
if there are two flights and Kelly and Christy are on the first one, some one must mess up at the airport because Kelly and Christy will be departing last on Sunday's leg

Michael, given the dependent clause, you are correct on cause and effect. The only way you get somebody one day behind is if they do not make the plane in Santiago. Here are the choices for a problem:

1. A serious weather delay or plane problem LaPaz to Santiago departing at 0715 and connecting through Santa Cruz and Buenos Aires to arrive SCL 1710.

2. A different weather delay or plane problem on LAN365 from LaPaz to Santiago stopping in Iquique and arriving SCL 1745.

Now, there was an alternate possibility 4 days a week(including Wednesdays) on AR2811 EZE AKL 2355 0500+2. The flight combination to EZE from LPB gets in to Buenos Aires at 1710, 6 3/4 hours before the trans-South Pacific departure, so the risk of missing it is small.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 17, 2008, 02:48:10 PM
Phil on Boonie Hunt said that after 10 hours of waiting at the pitstop that his dad wanted to put a jacket on etc, so with that we know it was a very long wait for Phil and dad for teams or a team.

I just walked in the door so will let you all know what other goodies Phil had to say later.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: elopes on October 17, 2008, 02:50:36 PM
Casting my vote that it's Ken and Tina who do the FF... and why would the girls be a whole day behind?  They're not leaving Bolivia that much behind everyone else...
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: michael on October 17, 2008, 03:00:05 PM
oh crap!
i forgot to watch...can you youtube it Phil!
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 17, 2008, 05:05:10 PM
Phil on Boonie Hunt said that after 10 hours of waiting at the pitstop that his dad wanted to put a jacket on etc, so with that we know it was a very long wait for Phil and dad for teams or a team.

I just walked in the door so will let you all know what other goodies Phil had to say later.

This piece is information helps determine what didn't happen. Flights in to Auckland from Santiago or Buenos Aires arrive only in the early morning(between about 4am and 5am). A wide pitstop time range that is less than 24 hours means that all teams must have reached Auckland on the morning of Saturday May 2. Once there, it is clear that something bad happens to at least one team so that they finish well after the others. The total gap from first to last was not necessarily 10 hours(Phil and his dad could have had to start from the nearby Coromandel Peninsula where Phil lives once there were reports of teams nearing the Tauranga area but they would err on the side of being early to arrive for the piststop festivities), but it must have been pretty large.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Slowhatch on October 17, 2008, 09:08:36 PM
Let me throw a few more cents  :2cents: into the gap issue. Phil's exact words from the insider video (http://www.veoh.com/videos/v162525537ZRWN9Gm):
I've got a little separation between...when the teams get here and when I have to get ahead of them so...
For the record, he's at the BurgerFuel at 114 Ponsonby road (compare the cap with this photo (http://picasaweb.google.com/alexghoth/AucklandNZ#5031746860932165922)). It's not really close to any location or task except the SkyTower. The shadows are indistinct and if there was a watch or clock in the video, I must have missed it.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Kiwi Jay on October 18, 2008, 12:58:46 AM
Been scouting  :hearts:

Met a man at Kiwi360 called Phillip, a.k.a Phill. Said he heard about the race heading to Te Puke. Saw Terence and Sarah from what I believe. Task was to squash Kiwifruit which went into a container.  :tup:. The Pitstop is overlooking Mt. Maunganui!! The sign says Mt. Maunganui, NZ. Angry at the fact that I didnt see any of them!! Life goes on. And lastly...roughly 2 hrs to get from Aukland International to Gulf Harbour up north

I CANNOT WAIT FOR TOMORROW. THEY COME TO MY HOMETOWN YAY  :yess:
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Chateau d If on October 18, 2008, 02:28:40 AM
I don't know if this will help but

This shot was taken here between 4:05 and 4:45 pm (assumes May 2nd).
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 18, 2008, 08:03:13 AM
Chateau, that is very interesting. However, it may not have been done on the day of the race. My forecast has the New Zealand portion of the leg ending before noon for the leading teams but lasting until 7pm for the lagging teams. Phil would not have had time for a miod-afternoon snack.  The burger visit (which was with his father) was in Auckland and probably the day before. Phil did not have to depart on April 30 from Santiago with the teams. He could have hustled to LaPaz airport after the morning pitstop checkins were complete and caught LAN965 LPB SCL 1245 1745 and gone trans-South Pacific on the night of April 29 arriving early morning on May 1.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: beau_30 on October 18, 2008, 09:28:37 AM
Im not sure if this is a reference or of some sort. But I've been keeping track of the contestants and when they have been eliminated.

If the couple that spotted the Blondes in Oregon, they make it to the final 6.

From past history, It seems that the 6th, 5th and 4th team to be eliminated are usually the detour teams.

From watching the squesterville the first 6 teams to be eliminated hit squesterville, while the others call, since they started it Since TARAS.

We know that Terrance and Sarah check in at the mat in Moscow, which means they could be either final 3 or final 4 being eliminated.

There was also sightings of Andrew & Dan in oregon. Which means they either make final 3 or final 6.

Now since is there is no sightings of Ken & Tina this leg they could be the eliminated team.

Here is how I came up with this.

There are 8 teams left..
We know that Toni & Dallas, Aja & Ty, Kelly & Christy, Nick & Starr, Andrew & Dan make it to Leg 5 from the pics.

Which leaves open to Marissa & Brooke, Ken & Tina and Terrance & Sarah.

We know that Terrance & Sarah check in to a pitstop in moscow from the video.

Which leaves Marrisa & Brooke and Ken & Tina being the last team to arrive.

If Aja & Ty take the Fast Foward, that leaves Ken & Tina to be eliminated if the source of Marissa & Brooke in Oregon.

The only other option that this could happen is if this is the first Non-Elimination leg.

We have no sightings of either of the two teams in future episode, the only possible reliable source is what the couple saw in oregon that seems to me that Marrissa & Brooke make Final 6.

Which leaves Ken & Tina to be eliminated or Aja & Ty on a Non-elimination leg.

Any thoughts?


Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 18, 2008, 10:01:45 AM
beau_30, I have one right off the top. In AR11 the villa in Acapulco only took 5 teams. Since it is the same sequestervile including the same villa (Casa Legouia which I attempted to find information on but failed), it is logical to assume that its capacity has not increased. There will be the same number of teams(5) there, not 6 teams. It should be remembered that the fourth and fifth teams are goig to have to cross the Pacific Ocean to reach Elimination Station. In AR11, the first four teams were eliminated in South America and the fifth (Ian/Teri) had to fly a much shorter distance across the Atlantic Ocean. I think there is a possibility that teams in epsiodes 4, 5 and 6 might go somewhere other than Acapulco that was near Portland OR rather than all the way down to Acapulco.

EDITOR's NOTE - please note the rather significant alterations.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Neobie on October 18, 2008, 11:27:59 AM
Doesn't add much to the discussion, but makes you go hmm?
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: michael on October 18, 2008, 11:38:03 AM
beau_30, I have one right off the top. In AR11 the villa in Acapulco only took 5 teams. Since it is the same sequestervile including the same villa (Casa Legouia which I attempted to find information on but failed), it is logical to assume that its capacity has not increased. There will be the same number of teams(5) there, not 6 teams. It should be remembered that the fourth and fifth teams are goig to have to cross the Pacific Ocean to reach Elimination Station. In AR11, the first four teams were eliminated in South America and the fifth (Ian/Teri) had to fly a much shorter distance across the Atlantic Ocean. I think there is a possibility that teams in epsiodes 4, 5 and 6 might go somewhere other than Acapulco that was near Portland OR rather than all the way down to Acapulco.

EDITOR's NOTE - please note the rather significant alterations.

isn't it common knowledge that the teams 6-4 just travel with production until the final city?  --unless I made that up :duno:
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: DrAw on October 18, 2008, 01:02:43 PM
Im not sure if this is a reference or of some sort. But I've been keeping track of the contestants and when they have been eliminated.

If the couple that spotted the Blondes in Oregon, they make it to the final 6.

From past history, It seems that the 6th, 5th and 4th team to be eliminated are usually the detour teams.

From watching the squesterville the first 6 teams to be eliminated hit squesterville, while the others call, since they started it Since TARAS.

We know that Terrance and Sarah check in at the mat in Moscow, which means they could be either final 3 or final 4 being eliminated.

There was also sightings of Andrew & Dan in oregon. Which means they either make final 3 or final 6.

Now since is there is no sightings of Ken & Tina this leg they could be the eliminated team.

Here is how I came up with this.

There are 8 teams left..
We know that Toni & Dallas, Aja & Ty, Kelly & Christy, Nick & Starr, Andrew & Dan make it to Leg 5 from the pics.

Which leaves open to Marissa & Brooke, Ken & Tina and Terrance & Sarah.

We know that Terrance & Sarah check in to a pitstop in moscow from the video.

Which leaves Marrisa & Brooke and Ken & Tina being the last team to arrive.

If Aja & Ty take the Fast Foward, that leaves Ken & Tina to be eliminated if the source of Marissa & Brooke in Oregon.

The only other option that this could happen is if this is the first Non-Elimination leg.

We have no sightings of either of the two teams in future episode, the only possible reliable source is what the couple saw in oregon that seems to me that Marrissa & Brooke make Final 6.

Which leaves Ken & Tina to be eliminated or Aja & Ty on a Non-elimination leg.

Any thoughts?




Umm  the video evidence in Russia is Nick & Starr at the pitstop, and Ken & Tina were supposedly spotted in the leg before Russia if i am correct. Just look at the spoilers thread, its all there. I do agree that in order for Marissa & Brooke to be decoys, they would hv to be in the final 6, though. So i agree with the non-elimination idea here.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Kiwi Jay on October 18, 2008, 01:23:39 PM
Taken a look at Google Map.

Mt Eden has the rock wall that Kelly and Christy stand by. The spit seen in the Kelly and Christy roadblock photo is definitely Devonport and the mountain volcano beside it is definitely Rangitoto Island. My father believes that it probably is One Tree Hill because of the rock wall but is confused by the angle. Could be wrong though! Could be Mt Eden though probably not since there isnt a rock wall and even Mt Albert too!

I know peach stated this but I am backing it up

2 hours is roughly guys unsure how true that is!

I was overlooking Papamoa Hills and it does look the same as the pitstop shot. I am not making any promises because I dont want to let anybody down.

And stomping grapes is done all the time in NZ. Not stomping Kiwifruit, so I am looking forward to that!!!

Kiwi
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Chateau d If on October 18, 2008, 02:08:44 PM
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The burger visit (which was with his father) was in Auckland and probably the day before.

Apskip, in general, the assumed date that I use is just for astronomical purposes.  It only needs to be within two or three days to make few minutes difference in the shadow positions.  So the exact date I use really does not matter for the level of (or lack of) precision that I come up with in my time estimates. 

But now that you have opened the date question, let's look at that.  As Slowhatch noted, Phil's exact words are

"I've got a little separation between...when the teams get here and when I have to get ahead of them so..."

That says to me that Phil is talking about the time between when teams get to the place where he is and the time when he has to leave to get ahead of them.  The place where he is:  'here' in his delivery, probably means New Zealand in general but, in all accuracy, we know that he means the Pit Stop location in particular.  And by 'when I have to get ahead of them' he is referring to his need to be at the next Pit Stop location after New Zealand.

With those equivalences in mind I can rewrite what Phil says as:

"I've got a little separation between the time when the teams get to the New Zealand Pit Stop and when I have to leave for the next Pit Stop so..."

It makes it clear that he is talking about the block of time that starts when the last of the Teams have checked in to the New Zealand Pit Stop and ends when he has to leave in order to catch his flight sequence to the next Pit Stop location.  We know that the Teams must check into the New Zealand Pit Stop on May 2nd.  We do not know when they check in.  Where is the proof that the last team checks in at 7:00 pm?  Lacking anything solid on last team check in times I would say that Phil's clip very well could have been taken on May 2nd.  The next day, May 3rd, would also be consistent with the time time block defined by Phil's statement.  However, there is piece of strong evidence in Matt's photo collection that make it impossible for the clip to have been made on May 3rd.  Matt took pictures of Phil in the very early (near sunrise) hours of May 4th while Phil was in a boat in the floating village near Siem Reap.  And, from my own flight figuring (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15365.msg302015.html#msg302015) a few months ago I learned that the best flight sequence from Auckland to Siem Reap on May 3rd left at 4:55 pm and arrived at 7:05 am on the 4th.  That best possible flight sequence would not get Phil to the standup in time.

So I think Phil had to have taken an earlier flight sequence than May 3rd 4:55 pm.  He may even have made the flight on the evening of the 2nd right after finishing the Bastard Burger.

Bottom line is that, I predict that, this timestamp of 4:05 to 4:45 pm will provide the clue that all Teams have checked in well ahead of 4 pm on May 2nd.



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Phil did not have to depart on April 30 from Santiago with the teams. He could have hustled to LaPaz airport after the morning pitstop checkins were complete and caught LAN965 LPB SCL 1245 1745 and gone trans-South Pacific on the night of April 29 arriving early morning on May 1.

No need to speculate on this because we already have a spoiler witness telling us Phil was waiting for his flight on April 29th at VVI.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: michael on October 18, 2008, 02:10:38 PM
I don't think Marisa and Brooke have to be eliminated after final 6 to be decoys. The teams are flown in from sequester before the date of the finale obviously, and maybe the production thought that since they stood out so much (being blond and all) they would catch the most attention?  So they got sent on a decoy run instead of sitting in a hotel waiting for the morning of the finish line.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Belle Book on October 18, 2008, 02:21:50 PM
Casting my vote that it's Ken and Tina who do the FF... and why would the girls be a whole day behind?  They're not leaving Bolivia that much behind everyone else...

I can guess a combination of two situations.  Let's say that they get on a particular flight and something delays the flight so that they fall behind.  And then, if the spoiler indicating that a team misses a bus is any indication, maybe they're the team that misses a bus and they fall so far behind that they get eliminated (and are totally humiliated in front of Phil's dad in the process, poor women).

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 18, 2008, 05:18:13 PM
beau_30, I have one right off the top. In AR11 the villa in Acapulco only took 5 teams. Since it is the same sequestervile including the same villa (Casa Legouia which I attempted to find information on but failed), it is logical to assume that its capacity has not increased. There will be the same number of teams(5) there, not 6 teams. It should be remembered that the fourth and fifth teams are goig to have to cross the Pacific Ocean to reach Elimination Station. In AR11, the first four teams were eliminated in South America and the fifth (Ian/Teri) had to fly a much shorter distance across the Atlantic Ocean. I think there is a possibility that teams in episodes 4, 5 and 6 might go somewhere other than Acapulco that was near Portland OR rather than all the way down to Acapulco.

EDITOR's NOTE - please note the rather significant alterations.

isn't it common knowledge that the teams 6-4 just travel with production until the final city?  --unless I made that up :duno:

No, Michael what is tradition is that the "middle set"(eliminated episodes 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8) of teams are split into two groups. One group goes to a sequester and is not typically used as decoys. The other group, usually the ones eliminated in ep. 6, 7 and 8, does traditionally travel with the teams up until one day before the finish and would be more readily available for decoy work. Your teams 4-6 would equate roughly to the teams eliminated in episodes 6, 7 and 8. You are talking apples (final finish order) and I am talking oranges. My point was that those eliminated in episodes 4, 5 and maybe 6 might be sent somewhere on the eastern end of the Pacific Ocean. That still leaves up to 2 teams for decoy work.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: michael on October 18, 2008, 05:19:52 PM
but we know that Marisa and Brooke are not in final 6, and stacey (the source) saw two BLONDES running around downtown....how do you explain that?
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 18, 2008, 05:39:54 PM
Chateau, you have overlooked an important piece of evidence. That is my reporting of information collected from first-hand sources at Auckland International Airport stating:

Phil Keoghan flew out in the early hours of the next day (possibly 3rd  of May) - 5am ish.

So if we believe that and obviously I do, it sure does point to your "timestamp" applying to May 1 at 405pm to 455pm(since the adjustment between May 2 and May 1 in your system is very small).

If Phil went through SantaCruz on April 29 (which is what the evidence indicates), he would have to get on either:

LAN967 1035 1625 to Santiago  for LAN801 (SCL AKL 2245 0355+2) OR

5L210 1015 1500 to Buenos Aires for AR2801 (EZE AKL 2355 0500+2)

If he did not get to Santa Cruz in time to get on one of those, then there are no other options that I am aware of.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 18, 2008, 05:48:08 PM
Phil on Boonie Hunt said that after 10 hours of waiting at the pitstop that his dad wanted to put a jacket on etc, so with that we know it was a very long wait for Phil and dad for teams or a team.

I just walked in the door so will let you all know what other goodies Phil had to say later.

This piece is information helps determine what didn't happen. Flights in to Auckland from Santiago or Buenos Aires arrive only in the early morning(between about 4am and 5am). A wide pitstop time range that is less than 24 hours means that all teams must have reached Auckland on the morning of Saturday May 2. Once there, it is clear that something bad happens to at least one team so that they finish well after the others. The total gap from first to last was not necessarily 10 hours(Phil and his dad could have had to start from the nearby Coromandel Peninsula where Phil lives once there were reports of teams nearing the Tauranga area but they would err on the side of being early to arrive for the piststop festivities), but it must have been pretty large.

Chateau, as to your contention that teams could have all finished up by 4pm, I have several comments:

1. See the Bonnie Hunt Show information, source Phil Keoghan about how he and his dad were at the pitstop for more than 10 hours.
2. The first teams could not have gotten to the pitstop before 11am in my analysis of the different tasks in New Zealand.
3. Phil and his dad might have gotten there an hour or two early, so let's say possibly as early as 9am.
4. Add 10 hours at a minimum and you get 7pm.
5. If the last team finished by anytime after 4pm near Te Puke, it still take 2 hours or more to return to Auckland. If this case were real (it isn't for the reasons cited above), Phil could not get that burger before 6pm.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 18, 2008, 10:18:19 PM
Whew! I go to work and come back and find you all have been busy with some great speculation! :hearts:

I just want to clarify a few things:

As DrAW said above, It is Nick/Starr in the Moscow video, not Terence/Sarah.

Ken and Tina were also seen in Moscow arr at the Pitstop.

The final #4 and #5 teams have usually run with production acting as decoys. (And frequently are allowed to do all the tasks if they want!) Team eliminated #6 has sometimes been run as a decoy, but has sometimes been brought from a second sequester location to do so. That team has also not always run decoy in the same city as the finale.

BUT!! I am not at liberty to say a lot about this, but we all need to remember that Portland was a VERY different Finale city than any we have ever had. It was the first time in the history of the race that we had the actual finale location BEFORE the finale took place. RFF chose to not share that info at the time in an effort to protect the ending of the race from a frenzy at the mat.

So use your creative thinking here.  ;)  I can tell you that TPTB may well have chosen to run decoys this time VERY differently than they have ever been run before. Including running ANY of the teams in Portland (not just the final 4-5), and also running a group of teams actually AFTER the final mat had occured.  Which could explain why we see some teams wandering Portland late in the day.

As far as NZ goes, here is exactly what we had from our source:

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The word I heard from my source was that a team 'missed the bus' and didn't arrive somewhere (I got the impression it was a cluebox) until the morning after other teams (although no word on what time of day the other teams got there the previous day).


and:

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A race spoiler I got was that at least one team missed a bus or similar and arrived at a challenge a day behind other teams (well, the following morning anyhow) - I hear this because the local crew hired to do the POV pickup shots had to revisit the location that morning to get matched lighting conditions.

Could this team maybe even have a Guido edit?? ???

And FWIW, I don't this is a NEL....  :angel:


Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 18, 2008, 10:38:48 PM
And :welcome: to RFF, DrAw!!
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Slowhatch on October 18, 2008, 11:04:54 PM
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I hear this because the local crew hired to do the POV pickup shots had to revisit the location that morning to get matched lighting conditions.
Matched to what? Now I'm confused (more than usual, anyway  :lol:). It should be interesting to watch the editing tomorrow.  :spy: Terminology here (http://books.google.com/books?id=RA5p7GxIHy8C&pg=PA99&dq=pov+pick-up+shot).
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: michael on October 18, 2008, 11:06:35 PM
Slowhatch, when they have an point-of view shot of the teams it's probably filmed with the same weather/lighting etc...as it is to when the teams are actually there....so if one team is a day  behind and the weather is different they will have to re-do the POV camera as well so the lightning, etc match up.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Slowhatch on October 18, 2008, 11:24:33 PM
OK, but...why? If they're 10 hours behind, then nobody would expect things to be the same. And if they're last, then the "team" cameraman would have lots of time to get lots of shots (and as far as we know, nobody made it to the pitstop in the morning--except the last team). John wanted a jacket, but Phil said No--"continuity." Was the 10-hour wait through the late evening? Through the night?
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
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Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Mrs Shrek on October 19, 2008, 12:11:38 AM
OK, but...why? If they're 10 hours behind, then nobody would expect things to be the same. And if they're last, then the "team" cameraman would have lots of time to get lots of shots (and as far as we know, nobody made it to the pitstop in the morning--except the last team). John wanted a jacket, but Phil said No--"continuity." Was the 10-hour wait through the late evening? Through the night?

I'm no camera expert, but here's my best guess. I suspect they have a couple of separate cameras set up that take blank pictures, ie with no team in them, just to splice and add in later to the edited film. They will probably also take 'dummy shots' of Phil waiting at the mat. They can't necessarily do those shots in real time or there would be too many cameras getting in the way of each other when they are shooting the long shots of the contestants actually making the dash for the mat. If some shots were taken in the afternoon/evening, they couldn't be used for the next morning, as the lighting angles would be totally wrong. While a team's camera crew could do the shots, or even Phil's crew, they have just run a leg, and probably need a rest period too. Most of those blank shots could be taken after everyone, including Phil, has already left the Pitstop. And for continuity, it is probably best to have the same camera man make the new shots, cos he knows what shots he already has from the day before.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Chateau d If on October 19, 2008, 12:54:30 AM
Chateau, you have overlooked an important piece of evidence. That is my reporting of information collected from first-hand sources at Auckland International Airport stating:

Phil Keoghan flew out in the early hours of the next day (possibly 3rd  of May) - 5am ish.

So if we believe that and obviously I do, it sure does point to your "timestamp" applying to May 1 at 405pm to 455pm(since the adjustment between May 2 and May 1 in your system is very small).

If Phil went through SantaCruz on April 29 (which is what the evidence indicates), he would have to get on either:

LAN967 1035 1625 to Santiago  for LAN801 (SCL AKL 2245 0355+2) OR

5L210 1015 1500 to Buenos Aires for AR2801 (EZE AKL 2355 0500+2)

If he did not get to Santa Cruz in time to get on one of those, then there are no other options that I am aware of.

I have no doubt that your source saw Phil at the airport.  But on what day?  Seriously, was it May 2nd or May 3rd?  To me "possibly 3rd  of May" means possibly being the 3rd of May.  Which is when Phil would have caught a flight after eating at Burger Fuel at 5 pm on May 2nd.

There is a reason why the Burger Fuel clip could not have been made on May 1st and that is because the Teams have not yet arrived in Auckland.  We know that they arrive on May 2nd.  And Phil has told us that
"I've got a little separation between...when the teams get here and when I have to get ahead of them so..."
Which means he has already checked in all the teams at the time the clip was made.  So that pins it down to May 2nd.

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Chateau, as to your contention that teams could have all finished up by 4pm, I have several comments:

1. See the Bonnie Hunt Show information, source Phil Keoghan about how he and his dad were at the pitstop for more than 10 hours.
2. The first teams could not have gotten to the pitstop before 11am in my analysis of the different tasks in New Zealand.
3. Phil and his dad might have gotten there an hour or two early, so let's say possibly as early as 9am.
4. Add 10 hours at a minimum and you get 7pm.
5. If the last team finished by anytime after 4pm near Te Puke, it still take 2 hours or more to return to Auckland. If this case were real (it isn't for the reasons cited above), Phil could not get that burger before 6pm.

If the ten hour Pit Stop occupancy is true and fully accurate then I would say Phil started his Pit Stop timer at 4 am and ended it at 2 pm.   Drove the 2 hours to Auckland and started his clip.  So that would make the last team arriving at about 2 pm.  We have Teams expected to be arriving in Auckland at 3:55 am.  And if the flight is half and hour or an hour early then the arrival could be as early as 2:55 am.  Teams could have a clue waiting for them on the provided cars.  That clue could contain the Fast Forward instructions.  The lead team could get to the SkyCity Tower as early as 3:30 am.  They could complete it by 3:50 am.  They could drive to the Pit Stop by 5:50 am.  Maybe Phil just needs to be there 2 hours ahead as a matter of production protocol.  I think it fits as a possibility.  I bet the FF team does not get there until 9 am.  I say that because we know Matt filmed the FF in use at 6:51 am.  But still, Phil may have to be at the Pit Stop much earlier than the lead teams.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Mrs Shrek on October 19, 2008, 01:57:22 AM
Maybe Phil just needs to be there 2 hours ahead as a matter of production protocol. 

Phil has said before that there have been times where he is actually racing the teams to the mat, so I don't think a 2 hr lead would always be possible.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: makz3d on October 19, 2008, 04:26:54 AM
...

There is a reason why the Burger Fuel clip could not have been made on May 1st and that is because the Teams have not yet arrived in Auckland.  We know that they arrive on May 2nd.  And Phil has told us that
"I've got a little separation between...when the teams get here and when I have to get ahead of them so..."
Which means he has already checked in all the teams at the time the clip was made.  So that pins it down to May 2nd.
...

I've watched and rewatched that portion of the video diary.  I feel that the Burger Fuel stop was before the mat check in. I let the video play out and Phil states that his dad WILL be the greeter and "Later that day..." Phil is recorded waiting at the mat with his dad.  I'm suspecting they fueled up as Phil had been informed there would be a long wait at the mat without being able to go for a meal (the peanuts).

This is just my opinion on when the Burger Fuel clip was made.
 
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2008, 05:29:17 AM
...

There is a reason why the Burger Fuel clip could not have been made on May 1st and that is because the Teams have not yet arrived in Auckland.  We know that they arrive on May 2nd.  And Phil has told us that
"I've got a little separation between...when the teams get here and when I have to get ahead of them so..."
Which means he has already checked in all the teams at the time the clip was made.  So that pins it down to May 2nd.
...

I've watched and rewatched that portion of the video diary.  I feel that the Burger Fuel stop was before the mat check in. I let the video play out and Phil states that his dad WILL be the greeter and "Later that day..." Phil is recorded waiting at the mat with his dad.  I'm suspecting they fueled up as Phil had been informed there would be a long wait at the mat without being able to go for a meal (the peanuts).

This is just my opinion on when the Burger Fuel clip was made.
 

I have to say that I interpreted this also as meaning "before the teams arrive here in NZ" and "before I have to get ahead of them as in, I need to beat them to the Pitstop."

Are we sure about the Matt filming the Pitstop as it occured? ???

I thought he was filming the setup and some of the staff fooling around....
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: makz3d on October 19, 2008, 06:00:46 AM

I've read the messages and watched the videos.

For the Maori warriors Dan and Andrew are clean with hair combed.

Later that day they are at the blokart sailing and very dirty and disheveled.

Anyone think Frats went to Kiwi360 first and then left to do Blokart?

It's best to see the dirty clothes by watching the 1st preview at CBS using full screen.  The smaller screens through this thread do not show the dirt as distinctive.

I am so confused.  I've been over and over the messages and can't get things straight in my mind.
              :duno:       :didimiss:        :duno:

I think Ken and Tina do FF.  Doing the FF puts them 10 hrs ahead of the last team to the mat.  Is there a bunching at the airport to negate the FF advantage?

It's a NEL and afterwards the Blondes get in trouble.


They were all on the same plane.  Blondes are at Maori warriors.  So how could Blondes mess up after the Maori enough to put them a day behind?

Am I so mixed up I have the Blondes' mess up in the wrong episode?

My best bet is to just go to bed (work nights) and forget about all this till tonight's episode.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Zack. on October 19, 2008, 09:25:00 AM
Casting my vote that it's Ken and Tina who do the FF... and why would the girls be a whole day behind?  They're not leaving Bolivia that much behind everyone else...

I can guess a combination of two situations.  Let's say that they get on a particular flight and something delays the flight so that they fall behind.  And then, if the spoiler indicating that a team misses a bus is any indication, maybe they're the team that misses a bus and they fall so far behind that they get eliminated (and are totally humiliated in front of Phil's dad in the process, poor women).

Belle Book


Possibility that just hit me now: Blondes go for the fast forward (I guess along with Aja/Ty). The SkyJump, however, opens at 10 am per the official site (http://www.skyjump.co.nz/SkyJump_Ltd/FAQ_IDL=1_IDT=2593_ID=14949_.html), meaning that even with the flat tire/potential navigation woes, they, A/T, and K/T are all there for the opening of the tower. K/T find the number box first and the other two teams leave, having wasted 6+ hours. 
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 19, 2008, 10:45:57 AM
That could be right, except for the waste of 6+ hours. After the initial trip to Gulf Harbour, teams should get back to Auckland at 6 am to 7am. Subtract the earliest 6am from 10am and that is a waste of "only" 4 hours.

Your point about the opening hours for the Sky Train are good and one of the few things that could explain a very wide differential in pitstop arrival times would be startnig the above 4 horus behind. The FF winner will still have to drive to Summerhill Recreationsal Farm (pitstop) 2 hours away.

For an antidote to mak3d's statement "I feel that the Burger Fuel stop was before the mat check in." you need to be aware that the burger place in AUCKLAND is a 4 hour round-trip from the pitstop. You don't just pop over for lunch if Phil and his dad have teams to check in.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: gingerman28 on October 19, 2008, 11:20:44 AM
OK, but...why? If they're 10 hours behind, then nobody would expect things to be the same. And if they're last, then the "team" cameraman would have lots of time to get lots of shots (and as far as we know, nobody made it to the pitstop in the morning--except the last team). John wanted a jacket, but Phil said No--"continuity." Was the 10-hour wait through the late evening? Through the night?

I'm no camera expert, but here's my best guess. I suspect they have a couple of separate cameras set up that take blank pictures, ie with no team in them, just to splice and add in later to the edited film. They will probably also take 'dummy shots' of Phil waiting at the mat. They can't necessarily do those shots in real time or there would be too many cameras getting in the way of each other when they are shooting the long shots of the contestants actually making the dash for the mat. If some shots were taken in the afternoon/evening, they couldn't be used for the next morning, as the lighting angles would be totally wrong. While a team's camera crew could do the shots, or even Phil's crew, they have just run a leg, and probably need a rest period too. Most of those blank shots could be taken after everyone, including Phil, has already left the Pitstop. And for continuity, it is probably best to have the same camera man make the new shots, cos he knows what shots he already has from the day before.

Just for the record, the filming of background scenes, atmosphere shots, etc. is known as the production of  a B Roll
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Chateau d If on October 19, 2008, 01:08:20 PM
I just love Phil's video  :lol:

Peanuts  :lol:

Okay back to business:

This shot was taken between 12:35 and 1:09 pm (assumes May 2nd).

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13ep4Philsdadgreeter.jpg)


"Later that day..."   Just ain't so.  It happened about 4 hours earlier.  The Sun says so.


I know Phil says his 'dad is going to be the greeter for this episode of The Amazing Race' and that is said in the future tense because the broadcast is in the future.  The actual filming of his dad being the greeter has already happened (see the time above).  It's like when they say 'you are going to see teams do incredible things...'   They were hungry, peanuts not substantial enough, so within an hour the last Team has checked in and they can book it up to Auckland for burgers.

I agree with Apskip (for once, I can do that sometimes  :lol:)  that it is unlikely for Phil to leave the mat to go off on a 5-hour jaunt to get burgers.  Here's the line, what does it mean?

"I've got a little separation between...when the teams get here and when I have to get ahead of them so..."
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Belle Book on October 19, 2008, 01:35:57 PM
Or maybe Marissa & Brooke race Ken & Tina to the Fast-Forward but lose out to the separated couple, putting them behind, and then they somehow miss a bus which puts them further behind.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: DrAw on October 19, 2008, 03:19:22 PM
And :welcome: to RFF, DrAw!!

Why Thank You!


Also...is there a possibility that there is a non-elimination here, or is there other evidence on the next or further legs?
And, i am going to have to agree with whoever said the decoys may not just be final 6. It would make sense for the crew to put the whole cast on the final leg, to divert attention, especially since they know of the existence of all these spoilers.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2008, 03:27:21 PM
We have no specific  evidence one way or another for a NEL, but for what it is worth, I do not think this is a NEL. ;) ;)
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 19, 2008, 03:49:20 PM
I believe from piecing together bits and pieces that the transportation for teams not going for the Fast Forward is:

1, they take their marked cars up to Gulf Harbour and then back to the Maori task.
2. when they get there, there is a series of buses set up to transport them to the Bay of Plenty area, to Papamoa or to Te Puke; this necessitates abandoing their cars at the Maori task.
3. after completing their DETOUR, they immediately get a taxi (I will guess that World Race Productions arranges for several to be available at each DETOUR site
4. those taxis will go to the pitstop

For the Fast Forward teams, anyone losing the competition for it must then go to the Maori task, which puts them up to 3 hours behind if they wait at the Fast Forward. I believe that this is what happens to Marisa and Brooke. The winner of the competition for the Fast Forward gets to keep their car and drive directly to the pitstop 2 hours away.


Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Chateau d If on October 20, 2008, 12:10:49 AM
This shot was taken between 8:44 and 9:33 am (assumes May 2nd).

It looks like Phil's burger clip was May 1st  :angel: since the check ins are going to run through the 4 to 5 pm slot.  So y'all were correct in your Kiwi lingo interpretation.  I botched it.

Now I have to figure out why those other teams took so long to do the leg.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Chateau d If on October 20, 2008, 01:35:27 AM
Hi Starr!    :angel:

This shot was taken between 11:27 am and 12:56 pm (assumes May 2nd).
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 20, 2008, 07:35:26 AM
Casting my vote that it's Ken and Tina who do the FF... and why would the girls be a whole day behind?  They're not leaving Bolivia that much behind everyone else...

I can guess a combination of two situations.  Let's say that they get on a particular flight and something delays the flight so that they fall behind.  And then, if the spoiler indicating that a team misses a bus is any indication, maybe they're the team that misses a bus and they fall so far behind that they get eliminated (and are totally humiliated in front of Phil's dad in the process, poor women).

Belle Book


Possibility that just hit me now: Blondes go for the fast forward (I guess along with Aja/Ty). The SkyJump, however, opens at 10 am per the official site (http://www.skyjump.co.nz/SkyJump_Ltd/FAQ_IDL=1_IDT=2593_ID=14949_.html), meaning that even with the flat tire/potential navigation woes, they, A/T, and K/T are all there for the opening of the tower. K/T find the number box first and the other two teams leave, having wasted 6+ hours. 

Maybe true about the SKy Jump opening at 10am, zachattack308, but the Sky Tower opens at 830am, which is when Ken and Tina started climbing since they had been waiting there for about 2.5 hours.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 20, 2008, 07:51:08 AM
This shot was taken between 8:44 and 9:33 am (assumes May 2nd).

It looks like Phil's burger clip was May 1st  :angel: since the check ins are going to run through the 4 to 5 pm slot.  So y'all were correct in your Kiwi lingo interpretation.  I botched it.

Now I have to figure out why those other teams took so long to do the leg.

4 to 5 pm for the last checkins? Where is your vaunted eagle eye, Chateau? The checkins for Aja/Ty and Marissa/Brooke were clearly way after dark. My guess is in the 645pm to 7pm range, but we'll see from the release time for Aja/Ty next week.

I will offer my opinion on why it took them so long. Both teams and known to be poor navigators and that trip would have required turns. I think they got lost a lot on the way from Auckland to TePuke.  Maybe they also stopped for lunch along the way, although I doubt it.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: patlini on October 20, 2008, 08:34:40 AM
I agree with the poor navigation, it seemed that Brooke and Marisa were at the maori's a lot later than the rest of the teams.

plus switching tasks really didn't help aja and ty - i wonder if this late finishing effects their choice of flights on the next leg
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Neobie on October 20, 2008, 09:55:42 AM
Found it on Google Earth! Heliflight (http://www.heliflight.co.nz/) from Ardmore Airport is 16mil/25km southeast of Auckland.

Also got the locations of the gnomes... see attached!

But does anyone know where the "kiwi orchard" is? I'm stuck on this!
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Chateau d If on October 20, 2008, 10:08:12 AM
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4 to 5 pm for the last checkins? Where is your vaunted eagle eye, Chateau? The checkins for Aja/Ty and Marissa/Brooke were clearly way after dark.

That's what 'runs through 4 to 5 pm' means.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Chateau d If on October 20, 2008, 11:43:10 AM
Okay, I see the ambiguity.  For Broadway plays, 'run through some date' means it ends on the date.

But I was thinking along the lines of car running through an intersection.  Sorry about the confusion.

But I did get a flight sequence right.  These were my guesses of the flights Teams take (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15365.msg301631.html#msg301631).  And this screen capture show matches "wave 2"

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Wave 2:
Fly Lan Airlines 965 leaving La Paz at 12:45 pm and arriving in Iquique at 1:50 pm
Continue with Lan Airlines 965 leaving Iquique at 3:15 pm and arriving in Santiago at 5:25 pm
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Chateau d If on October 20, 2008, 12:25:42 PM
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Maybe true about the SKy Jump opening at 10am, zachattack308, but the Sky Tower opens at 830am, which is when Ken and Tina started climbing since they had been waiting there for about 2.5 hours.

I didn't see any waiting.

This shot was taken before 7:03 am (assumes May 2nd).

Sunrise for this location was 7:03 am.  And they are already at the top with the gnome.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: snap-on on October 20, 2008, 01:19:54 PM
what website is that ? Does any1 know ?
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Chateau d If on October 20, 2008, 02:13:17 PM
This shot was taken between 4:15 and 4:38 pm (assumes May 2nd).
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Chateau d If on October 20, 2008, 02:16:18 PM
And this shot from the preview at CBS is most definitely not between 4:15 and 4:38 am.

But it does match perfectly with 10:15 to 10:38 am.   (:;)

So I bet the Pit Stop is another one of the 18 hour kinds.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 20, 2008, 04:20:05 PM
And I bet it is a 24 hour pitstop!
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: michael on October 20, 2008, 04:46:46 PM
And I bet it is a 24 hour pitstop!

if it's 24 hour the lighting would match up to their check in time apskip, so IA with Chateau that it's an 18 hour pitstop
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Slowhatch on October 20, 2008, 10:50:59 PM
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what website is that ?
Racers were shown using the LAN (http://plane.lan.com/index-en-us.html) website.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: snap-on on October 21, 2008, 11:45:31 AM
Racers were shown using the LAN website.

thanks....looks like it's only for South America link.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 21, 2008, 12:14:03 PM
Not quite, snap-on. You can only see the bottom of the request screen. Based on what I see, I am confident that the top of the screen, which is for all international and domestic locations LAN flies to, starts with:

Santiago de Chile
------
Miami
New York
LosAngeles
Buenos Aires
Lima
Santiago de Chile
-----
Adelaide
Albuquerque
Amsterdam
Antofagasta
Arequipa
Arica
Atlanta
Auckland
Austin
and then an additional 140 cities starting with the letters "B' through "Z"

What AR13 teams would logically enter is FROM LaPaz TO Auckland. The To box is blank because it hasn't been filled in yet. Once it is, you get the search results.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 26, 2008, 09:38:34 PM
okay so I'm watching this episode again, does anyone recall this Dan and Andrew confessional? past? future?
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 26, 2008, 09:56:14 PM
Don't remember, but is that a clock tower behind him? ???
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 26, 2008, 10:13:36 PM
*Growns* at the thought of rewatching the insider clips! ................Maybe La Paz?

they say

Dan: I'd like to think that I have a lot of desire some might call it frustration, I just want to take over as a leader so much I often forget that I have a equal opportunity partner
Andrew: this isn't the Dan show this is Andrew and Dan on the Amazing Race
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Mrs Shrek on October 27, 2008, 12:19:17 AM
The yellow bush behind them looks a little bit like gorse - a common weed in NZ
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 27, 2008, 12:40:38 AM
I suppose it could have been taken during their rest period Mrs Shrek?

heres a clip of DAndrew but it seems to me Andrew is mad at Dan for something in the clip I saw on (ep4)

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/video/video.php?cid=868011752&pid=uM7Cwegx1xM4B9Y7x1g_T2lxz8viuV_Z&play=true&cc=27
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Mrs Shrek on October 27, 2008, 01:03:00 AM
CBS blocks me from watching their clips, and I haven't seen episode 5 yet, so can't help you there :duno:

I just know the the majority of NZ farms battle to keep their gorse under control...it's a real pest, but looks pretty when it's in flower
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 27, 2008, 01:08:33 AM
I wish they would show us the clips of the teams on their "mandatory" rest periods like they use to. Thanks Mrs Shrek  :kuss:
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: Slowhatch on October 27, 2008, 01:19:04 AM
Andrew had the same clothes on, and you can see some of the same flowers: it looks like monticulo.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: apskip on October 27, 2008, 07:01:44 AM
I wish they would show us the clips of the teams on their "mandatory" rest periods like they use to. Thanks Mrs Shrek  :kuss:

I disagree. One of the best changes that has been made by World Race Productions/CBS has been the elimination of those scenes of mingling, eating, resting and doing short interviews usually devoid of useful content. That time has gone into showing more race footage, which is a very positive step.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 27, 2008, 08:38:19 AM
But I would love to see it in Insider Clips, just like we get Elim Station. I think that sometimes that is where you get a much better feel for who is getting along with whom...
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: patlini on October 27, 2008, 08:40:28 AM
But I would love to see it in Insider Clips, just like we get Elim Station. I think that sometimes that is where you get a much better feel for who is getting along with whom...


I concur   :jumpy:

going off the show the feud between kelly/christy and the manglers seems silly but there's no smoke without fire
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on October 27, 2008, 11:03:46 AM
Andrew had the same clothes on, and you can see some of the same flowers: it looks like monticulo.
Oh now I see it, Dan changed his wrestling outfit, thanks for clearing that up Slowhatch.
Title: Re: EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Post by: puddin on November 27, 2008, 02:47:55 AM
So I'm messing around in facebook and who do I find?

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/matts/Auckland/th_IMG_0343.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/matts/Auckland/IMG_0343.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/matts/Auckland/th_IMG_0351.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/matts/Auckland/IMG_0351.jpg)