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Title: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on September 17, 2008, 10:56:22 PM
This thread is for discussion of Episode 2 and can be posted in immediately AFTER the show has aired at AXN, based on Singapore time. That will be Thusday 9/18 at 10:30 PM Singapore time, or Thursday at 10:30 AM EST for those of us in the US.
Please read the posting guidelines HERE (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17429.0.html) BEFORE you post in this thread please.
Those who will have not seen the show yet will need to ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK! There will be spoilers about who won, and who was eliminated for sure, and other details about the leg.
Spoilers for the second elimination leg. (AXN Leg 2 or 3??) May 22-23
Since it looks like we have a very good handle on Leg 1/2 (whether it ends up being labelled 1/2 or just 1), I thought perhaps it is time to move onto Leg 3?
Some time ago, a new friend (who has requested to remain anonymous) shared some in-depth information about this leg with me. That person has been exceedingly generous with information and time, and I want to say a personal BIG :thankyou: for all the help! :yourock:
Okay then... This leg begins with 9 racers, and sadly neither Natalie or Pailin were seen during this leg, according to the source.
(Note: teams were previously spotted in the Chiang Mai airport on May 22, presumably on the way to Saigon.)
**The racers arrive in HCMC (Saigon) late in the evening. They are first looking for a clue in a flower shop, which does not open until 6AM. At least 2 teams return to wait at the shop by 4AM, but some teams apparently do not arrive until afternoon.
This actually works very well with our first Saigon spoiler brought to us by puddin, HERE (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15379.msg302225.html#msg302225). JonLover was able to reach the blogger and she shared some further info with us HERE (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15379.msg305001.html#msg305001). She saw the teams at the Q-BAR (http://www.qbarsaigon.com/)near the Caravelle Hotel, near Opera House sometime between 10-12PM. (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TARA%203/TARA3Q-barlocation.jpg) Unfortunately, she reported a mistaken date (May 21) for the sighting to us which caused much teeth gnashing, :pull , and :wall:, and :argue: as we struggled to make the dates fit in an already tight schedule. But even though the date was clearly incorrect, I still believe that the sighting has validity.
** Once teams have their clue, they procede to the Ben Thanh market where they catch a bus to the "southwest" of VietNam. (The flower shop may be quite near or across the street from the market. ) The trip is reported to take "some hours".
From Slowhatch: If you have GE this download (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=7e78e6f88aca9073a5eda987f048984a&rtyp=k2&fn=cho+ben+thanh&ctyp=other) will put a 3D model of Ben Thanh market on the map. You can see the buses lined up at the station across the square.
** Once teams reach their location, they have a choice between two Detours. The first is to deliver some goods by boat on a river (assumption of a floating market here) OR chasing and catching some chickens.
Anyone remember this leg in TAR3? Day 23 (9/3): Flights via Kuala Lumpur to Ho Chi Min City, taxis to statue of Bac Ho in Rex Square. Then taxis proceed to floating market in Cai Be (Mekong Delta) for Easy Buy/Hard Sell Detour. Then back to Ho Chi Minh City to 2A Ton Duc Thang, District 1. Cyclo/ferry Roadblock to Café Thu Thiem pit stop [Derek/Drew eliminated].
Day 24 (9/4): Leg 12: Early departures, booking train to Hue. 24-hour train ride begins.
Day 25 (9/5): Taxis to Imperial Palace, then to Nam O Da Nang for Basket Boats/Bikes Detour. To boat quay in Hoi An (fishing platform Roadblock), then to China Beach pit stop [non-elimination].
Day 26 (9/6): Leg 13: Early departures to route marker at Guang Minh Temple in Da Nang, which directs them to arrange flights to Honolulu at a local travel agency before traveling via train to Hanoi.
That has brought up the possibility of Cai Be as the floating market teams may have visited, since we know TARA likes to re-use former TAR locations.
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Cai Be, one of the many well-known floating markets in the western region of southern Vietnam was formed in the Nguyen Dynasty in the 19th century. The Cai Be Floating Market is always busy, bearing all the characteristics of the locals’ life in the western region.
All the goods are transported to the market by rafts and boats. The floating market lies in the Tien River, adjacent to three provinces of Tien Giang, Vinh Long and Ben Tre.
The market is divided into two parts: buying and selling places. Rafts and boats are anchored along the two sides of the river for kilometres. From the floating market, goods are shifted for selling at inland markets or small boats take them for delivery along canals in the Plain of Reeds.
From three 3am in the early morning, rafts and boats are crowded because Cai Be is one of the biggest wholesale markets in the region. Traders live on the river and some link their lives with boats like their mobile house for generations. Cai Be seems to be an inseparable part of their daily lives.
On each boat, goods are hung on poles that are called dialectically “cay beo”. Hundreds of such poles point the sky wards. Boats also operate like “taxis,” very convenient for tourists around the region.
**Following the detours, teams again take a bus back to HCMC, and proceed to the Saigon Zoo (http://www.saigonzoo.net/idx.php?mods=contact) which is also the site of the Pitstop.
One team is eliminated. It seems a little early to me to reveal who this is, but I will say for now that it is a M/M team.
So missing is a Roadblock (unless it is at the zoo?)...but I think this gives us a broad outline of what looks to be a very exciting leg. :hearts:
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Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: puddin on September 17, 2008, 11:23:07 PM
I'm dying to see how this leg plays out :jumpy:, I may actually wake up early :lol:
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: michael on September 18, 2008, 12:06:58 AM
Well, looks like I'm going to like TARA after watching episode 1. Can't wait to see this one.
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: puddin on September 18, 2008, 12:09:02 AM
As they say on the AXN boards, "please spoil us!" :jumpy:
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: Alan on September 18, 2008, 08:04:00 AM
Make their way to the flight of the Gibbon, a thrilling jungle canopy adventure, which will see them soar above 50 metres above the forest.
Mai and Oliver leave at 10.35pm
Geoff and Tisha at 10.38pm
Henry and Bernie at 10.45pm
Pailin and Natalie at 12.18am
Ida and Tania 12.34am
William and Issac 12.41am
Sam and Vince 12.55am
AD and Fuzzie 1.20am
Niroo and Kapil 1.29am
Sam and Vince reaches there first, hours of operation, only open at 7.30am, teams have to take a number first. Mai and Oliver last.
They do a zipline across the forest.
Make their way to Banana Plantation. Taxi race to the plantation.
Commercial break.
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on September 18, 2008, 08:14:50 AM
Keep it coming jonnal--Chateau is going to LOVE these times!! :hearts:
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: Alan on September 18, 2008, 08:19:34 AM
After commercial...
Geoff and Tisha reaches there first. Roadblock. Find a bag pack that contains their clue. They must avoid the paintball or must go back to the start.
Geoff,Bernie,Mai, Fuzzie, Tania, William, Kapil, Pailin, Sam does it for their team. They are hurting.
Tania found it first
Fuzzie second.
Make their way to Ho Chi Minh city, Vietnam
Ida and Tania on the first flight to HCMC.
Mai and Oliver, William and Issac, Pailin and Natalie are taking the same flight to Bangkok first. These 3 teams in trouble?
Rest of the teams are on 2nd flight. They go through Siem Reap.
Commercial.
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on September 18, 2008, 08:21:52 AM
PAINTBALL! :yess: :happy:
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on September 18, 2008, 08:27:16 AM
Flight of the gibbon: http://www.treetopasia.com/
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: TARAsia Fan on September 18, 2008, 08:28:14 AM
A live running blog!!!! Awesome!! :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:
If we can get a live stream like BB, that would be heaven!!!
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: Alan on September 18, 2008, 08:32:26 AM
After commercial...
Ida and Tania reaches.
Make their way to the Saigon opera house for the next clue. Route info.
Make their way to Saigon cafe and play a Nokia game and race in a certain time limit to receive their next clue.
Pailin and Natalie misses the flight out and has to wait until the next day.
Make their way to Ben Tham market and find a flower store to receive their next clue. Hours of operation. Open 6am in the morning.
Commercial break.
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on September 18, 2008, 08:36:13 AM
oh the spoilers are good so far!! FLOWERSHOP!! :whew :hearts:
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: Alan on September 18, 2008, 08:40:51 AM
After commercial....
Travel by bus to the Cai Be bus terminal
Detour. Sampan or Some Walk. Team Korea and the two Thai teams only now on their way to HCMC.
Sampan, load basket of fruits on the Sampan(boat) and paddle their way to the opposite site of the river.
Some walk, catch 20 chickens, put them in some carrying cage device and deliver them to some store.
Henry and Bernie complete it first despite arguments.
Make their way to the church by bus in HCMC.
Commercial
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on September 18, 2008, 08:47:29 AM
Jonnal!
:<3 :<3 :<3 :<3 :<3 :<3
Oh I am so happy, I can't wait to see the spoilers coming true.
Cai Be!! CHICKENS!! :happy:
poor team Korea....
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on September 18, 2008, 08:49:31 AM
No church yet? Hmmmm.... That must come after Cai Be?
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: Alan on September 18, 2008, 08:59:32 AM
After commercial....
Geoff going crazy...
The 3 teams at the back only now reach HCMC.
Natalie complains being dirty and being treated at the lowest form of Human being. Pailin shrugs her off by stating she knew what she signed up for.
Choose a friend in need and given a set of money, they must buy things that are needed for the charity. After that make their way to the Saigon post office.
Commercial.
After commercial..
Henry cries and gets emotional after seeing the church.
Henry and Bernie still first and the clue at the Saigon post office directs them to the pitstop, The Musem of Vietnamese History.
Henry and Bernie first at pitstop! A year of free petrol from Caltex! :lol:
AD and Fuzzie second at pitstop. They are ecstatic and AD dives down and kisses the mat! :funny:
Sam and Vince third.
Niroo and Kapil fourth.
Geoff and Tisha fifth.
Ida and Tania sixth.
The other three teams still trying to catch chickens in Some Walk. I believe William and Issac are eliminated.
Commercial.
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: beyonddbreak on September 18, 2008, 09:15:41 AM
natalie has become annoying..she just keeps on complaining saying she doesnt wanna be dirty & thinks its the lowest form of being human... and pailin was just being quiet the whole time. i feel for her, after working that hard..
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: beyonddbreak on September 18, 2008, 09:22:21 AM
yes! pailin & natalie survives :yess:- 7th! but its gonna be tough for them after that.. seeing they are hours behind after the 6 teams.. well, at least they still have 1 team left..hopefully pailin keeps natalie grounded.. but right now, im only liking pailin from their team..natalie, ur supposed to be down to earth! ur miss universe :duno:
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: Alan on September 18, 2008, 09:22:39 AM
After commercial...
Pailin and Natalie 7th at pitstop.
Mai and Oliver 8th.
William and Issac last and eliminated.
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on September 18, 2008, 09:23:56 AM
Thanks for helping beyonddbreak!!
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Vietnam History Museum is located on No. 2 Nguyen Binh Khiem Street, District 1, Ho Chi Minh City. Through the different exhibits that can be seen, the museum portrays Vietnam’s history from ancient times (approximately 300,000 years ago) up to the 1930s, when Vietnam’s Communist Party was founded.
The History Museum in Ho Chi Minh City was built in 1929 and was called "Musée Blanchard de la Bosse". Until 1956, it was renamed Saigon National Museum, and finally in 1975, after some renovations, the museum was expanded and became the Ho Chi Minh City History Museum.
The museum’s exhibits are divided according to the following topics:
- Rise of the Hung Kings - Fight for Independence (1st-10th centuries) - Ly Dynasty (11th-13th centuries) - Tran Dynasty (13th-14th centuries) - Le Dynasty (15th-18th centuries) - Tay Son Dynasty (18th-19th centuries) - Nguyen Dynasty (19th-middle of the 20th centuries
Other part of the museum displays specific characteristics of the southern area of Vietnam such as the Oc-Eo culture, the ancient culture of the Mekong Delta, Cham art, the Ben Nghe Saigon art, the Vietnamese ethnic minorities, and ancient pottery of various Asian countries.
Housed in a rambling new concrete, pagodalike structure, the museum presents a clear picture of Vietnamese history, with a focus on the south. There is an excellent selection of Cham sculpture and the best collection of ancient ceramics in Vietnam. Weaponry from the 14th century onward is on display; one yard is nothing but cannons. One wing is dedicated to ethnic minorities of the south, including photographs, costumes, and household implements. Nguyen Dynasty (1700-1945) clothing and housewares are also on display. There are archaeological artifacts from prehistoric Saigon. Its 19th- and early-20th-century histories are shown using photos and, curiously, a female corpse unearthed as construction teams broke ground for a recent housing project. There are even some general background explanations in English, something missing from most Vietnamese museums.
HISTORY MUSEUM At the end end of Le Duan St – inside the city zoo (skip it) – the ‘Museum of Vietnamese History’ occupies a great old 1929 French-built place, with Asian-style tiered tower and sunken courtyards Inside a bust of Ho Chi Minh greets you, and exhibits with English subtitles uncovers Vietnam’s past (from mammoth tusks to water puppets). Don’t miss the Tran Hung Dao bits, which show how he mounted wood spikes in the nearby river to pierce Chinese warships in the 13th century – when the tide dropped the Chinese were stuck, and slaughtered. Said one museum attendant: ‘I love Tran Hung Dao for what he did… A great moment in our history, telling the Chinese they couldn’t conquer us. When they got stuck, he sent flamed arrows and they died from fire.’ The museum hosts a water-puppet show at 9am, 10am, 11am, 2pm, 3pm and 4pm (it’s $2 extra). Tel 08-825-8784; corner of Le Duan & Nguyen Binh Kiem Sts; admission 15,000D (US$0.95), plus 8000D (US$0.50) for the zoo; open 8-11am, 1.30-4.30pm Tue-Sun, zoo open 7am-8pm daily
http://www.reidontravel.com/saigon/?page_id=15
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: beyonddbreak on September 18, 2008, 09:24:23 AM
aw..isaac william gone.. next ep, looks like ida & tania had trouble wid their bus.. natalie wants to quit.. fuzzie is tired & teams are having a hard time w/ their bikes.. (including pailin/nat, geoff/tisha??? falling on their bikes..)
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on September 18, 2008, 09:25:47 AM
William and Isaac go...
I don't even care that there was no zoo, :lol:
What about the preview?? We need to know where they go next, please!
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: beyonddbreak on September 18, 2008, 09:27:05 AM
definitely hue, vietnam is next leg! :tup:
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: beyonddbreak on September 18, 2008, 09:29:46 AM
the bikes??? (the spoiler photo of mai/oliver on the bike at hue) are already shown for next epi's preview..back to 1 hour, next leg i think
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on September 18, 2008, 09:30:05 AM
I see them in the Citadel!
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on September 18, 2008, 09:33:02 AM
Neobie too! Y'all are doing great!!
Okay, two choices:
They can take a train to Hue on 5/24 OR 5/24 is an extended Pitstop in Saigon before flying to Hue on 5/25.
Or a BUS!! :jumpy:
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: beyonddbreak on September 18, 2008, 09:34:32 AM
peach there was a zoo, they need to enter the zoo to get to the museum (the pitstop)..
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: beyonddbreak on September 18, 2008, 09:35:51 AM
i think basing on the preview that they will go to hue by bus (just an assumption) because on the preview it seems like ida & tania's bus had some trouble..
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: Alan on September 18, 2008, 09:36:35 AM
Yeah I agree with you beyondbreak. Pailin reminds me of Dustin but Natalie is not anywhere near Kandice standard, so I hope its the editing thing.
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on September 18, 2008, 09:39:18 AM
We get the zoo too? :jumpy: :jumpy:
Oh I may die of happiness right now! I hope the source is as happy as I am --I have been sending word every few minutes, lol!
Jonnal and beyonddbreak--I love y'all forever! You did a wonderful job! Can't wait to see it!
Yeah I agree with you beyondbreak. Pailin reminds me of Dustin but Natalie is not anywhere near Kandice standard, so I hope its the editing thing.
yeah! and im quite surprised with her attitude..she's miss universe.. so she had probably been in more rough places before.. anyways, all the love to pailin, she really is the force to their team! im glad that she was a sport with all the attitude nat was giving
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: TARAsia Fan on September 18, 2008, 09:47:16 AM
I'm sad to hear Natalie wanted to quit. I'll have to watch the episode and I didn't want to criticize her after watching her in the premiere, but if she pulls a Mai, then I'll have no choice but to go after her.
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: beyonddbreak on September 18, 2008, 09:47:28 AM
well the train I think takes about 16 hours so bus would be stressful ...and long!!
But they have all day/night 5/24 to get there by midday 5/25...
:wohoo:
Except for the Chiang Mai pitstop these teams have now been running for 4 days w/ no real rest!
well, they are right when they labled this the toughest race ever..henry even said that if there will ever be a pitstop that leg because they have been running for hours :tup:
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: Alan on September 18, 2008, 09:49:03 AM
Yeah I agree with you beyondbreak. Pailin reminds me of Dustin but Natalie is not anywhere near Kandice standard, so I hope its the editing thing.
yeah! and im quite surprised with her attitude..she's miss universe.. so she had probably been in more rough places before.. anyways, all the love to pailin, she really is the force to their team! im glad that she was a sport with all the attitude nat was giving
Yeah I think many will see why we love Pailin...Shes the best female in the race besides Bernie. Heck, shes better than the males as well! AD and Fuzzie did really great. Sam and Vince also did well. :tup:
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: beyonddbreak on September 18, 2008, 09:51:00 AM
actually pailin & natalie really would have been on 8th place..the thing is they went straight to their charity & just gave the money w/o having to buy anything becoz the director said that she will be the one to buy the things while mai & oliver had to buy a laptop still before going to their charity.. isaac & william got screwed on the chicken detour, labeling themselves as "city boys", they were slow on getting the chickens
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on September 18, 2008, 09:52:51 AM
Pailin sounds wonderful and SO happy for AD/Fuzzie! :jumpy:
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: TARAsia Fan on September 18, 2008, 09:57:12 AM
Natalie should not give up because there's always a point where the racers could get bunched. Good for Pailin for being level-headed. Thanks for providing the info, jonnal and beyondbreak.
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: beyonddbreak on September 18, 2008, 09:58:29 AM
Natalie should not give up because there's always a point where the racers could get bunched. Good for Pailin for being level-headed. Thanks for providing the info, jonnal and beyondbreak.
anytime! :hearts:
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: puddin on September 18, 2008, 10:41:14 AM
Thanks for the updates and spoilers :jumpy:, good job peach's and source on spoilers :jumpy: :yess: :jam: Oh I so want to see this :jumpy:
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on September 18, 2008, 10:44:48 AM
Saigon post office:
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POST OFFICE Whether you’re coming to mail a post card or not is beside the point – this ultra-grand French post office, finished in 1891, is one of Saigon’s great buildings. Inside the ornate peach-and-green interior a huge portrait of Ho overlooks the decidedly colonial-era setting. Note the recently renovated maps of Saigon et sus Environs (1892) and Sud Vietn Nam et Cambodge (1936) on either wall as you enter. Sending a post card or letter to the USA/UK/Australia is 9000/8000/7000D (US$0.55/0.50/0.45). Post cards available. 2 Coq Xu Paris Q1, open 7am to 9pm daily
Thanks for the updates and spoilers :jumpy:, good job peach's and source on spoilers :jumpy: :yess: :jam: Oh I so want to see this :jumpy:
Thanks! I am dying to see it too!
And again, I just want to say a HUGE THANK YOU :ty to our source for letting us be part of this!
And the best ever spoiler...sounds like everything was there!
Flowershop opens at 6 Some teams don't arrive till afternoon Ben Tranh Market Bus to Cai Be Market boat or catch chickens and even the zoo! and William and Isaac eliminated (that info was in the original spoiler but I chose to not say anything other than M/M team until recently, since the show had not even aired at that point and I thought it would be kind of mean, lol.)
But look at what all of the RFF Detectives have done!
Slowhatch found the X-centre puddin found the paintball challenge Chateau's times look right on! Y'all found the church Y'all found the bridge
I am so proud of you all! :ghug:
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: puddin on September 18, 2008, 11:03:29 AM
I want to see I want to see :lol: :jumpy:
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: Slowhatch on September 18, 2008, 11:23:33 AM
I've attached a kmz for the canopy based on the map at the bottom of this page (http://www.thailandresor.se/chiangmai/Flight-of-the-Gibbon/Treetop-Adventure-Tour.html); is there a name for the paintball plantation?
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: puddin on September 18, 2008, 11:35:05 AM
This blog (http://juliansi.blogspot.com/2008/09/amazing-race-asia-3-episode-ii-vietnam.html) has a few pictures, you can see the patterned plaza , thanks Jules.
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Post by: Boingo on September 18, 2008, 11:36:01 AM
HCMC Pitstop :snicker:
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Post by: georgiapeach on September 18, 2008, 11:40:32 AM
Slowhatch here is the zipline http://www.treetopasia.com/
and the paintball plantation is at the X-centre!! http://www.chiangmai-xcentre.com/chiangmai_paintball.htm
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on September 18, 2008, 11:51:39 AM
This blog (http://juliansi.blogspot.com/2008/09/amazing-race-asia-3-episode-ii-vietnam.html) has a few pictures, you can see the patterned plaza , thanks Jules.
I must have looked at 30000 zoo pictures (and I hate zoos. lol! ) But never saw that sidewalk...
so we can say now for sure thanks to banzai's good eye and the show that this was taken at the Saigon Pitstop at the Museum of Vietnamese History?
Flight of the Gibbon Their first task is to travel to the village of Mae Kompong and do the Flight of the Gibbon Treetop Adventure where they will ride zip lines over the rainforest.
Mai and Oliver found a willing passerby to let them stay in her house for the night thinking that the venue won’t open till morning. Geoff and Tisha and Henry and Bernie took their time going there as well.
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Going to Vietnam Next task is to go to the Saigon Opera House in Ho Chi Minh City for their next clue.
Ida and Tania arrived at the airport first and were able to secure the first earliest flight to Vietnam via Bangkok before other teams could arrive.
Next fastest flight is via Siem Reap, Cambodia. Henry/Bernie, AD/Fuzzie, Geoff/Tisha, Niroo/Kapil and Sam/Vince boarded that flight.
Even though Mai and Oliver arrived at the airport early, they weren’t aware of the plane to Cambodia. They got a ticket to Vietnam via Bangkok but it will leave Bangkok in the morning. Fortunately for them, they were joined by the Beauty Queens and the Koreans.
Ida and Tania arrived in Ho Chi Minh early in the evening well ahead of the others and promptly find their next clue.
Please use the link to see the rest and get all the details! :hearts:
Thanks, Calvin!!
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: calv_10 on September 18, 2008, 07:08:19 PM
:ascared Question for TARA3 Leg 2 viewers: I don't see (or hear anything about) taxis...did the racers WALK everywhere in Saigon (HCMC) ? :duno:
there were taxis. there was also some kind of drag racing going on with a bunch of similarly looking taxis when they left flight of the gibbon. they were the only cars on the road and they occupied both lanes trying to outrace each other's taxi. hehehe. fun to watch.
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on September 18, 2008, 07:27:39 PM
Hi calv_10 and :welcome2: to RFF!
(is that you calvin? :lol: ---if so we are doubly glad to see you here and thank you again for the wonderful recaps! They really help to tide us over while we are still waiting....)
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on September 18, 2008, 11:43:06 PM
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so we can say now for sure thanks to banzai's good eye and the show that this was taken at the Saigon Pitstop at the Museum of Vietnamese History?
(is that you calvin? :lol: ---if so we are doubly glad to see you here and thank you again for the wonderful recaps! They really help to tide us over while we are still waiting....)
hi peach, yup this is me. sorry it took awhile to finish the whole thing. it was a really long episode. i'll try to visit next week so that i could participate in the real time posting of spoilers. hehehe.
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: puddin on September 19, 2008, 12:55:00 AM
Nice to meet you calvin :waves:, thank you for sharing :hearts:
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on September 19, 2008, 01:02:30 AM
(is that you calvin? :lol: ---if so we are doubly glad to see you here and thank you again for the wonderful recaps! They really help to tide us over while we are still waiting....)
hi peach, yup this is me. sorry it took awhile to finish the whole thing. it was a really long episode. i'll try to visit next week so that i could participate in the real time posting of spoilers. hehehe.
I was amazed at how quickly you did it! But we would LOVE it if you could join us--those of us who don't get to see right away are relying on y'all for help! And feel free to chime in while we are working on stuff too--all help appreciated!
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on September 19, 2008, 12:48:55 PM
From Allan Wu's blog (http://www.alivenotdead.com/allanwu/blog.html?selection_all_page_1#return-xspace-entry308649) (thanks for the reminder puddin :tup:)
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...especially in this second episode which ended lasting almost two days!
In my three seasons, this is the first episode that got bumped up to a ninety-minute special because there was just too much that happened to these teams. And if you were able to catch it, you'll know what I am talking about. Right from the start, teams had a difficult time getting from one place to another. I think some people might have been surprised to see Mai and Oliver go from first place in the first episode to pulling up the rear in certain portions of the second leg, especially since they are from Thailand too! I think that just goes to show you that "home court (or country) advantage" really doesn't mean that much because anything can happen...at anytime.
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: apskip on September 19, 2008, 03:12:50 PM
I have finally seen the entirety of ARA3 episode 2. It is crammed full of tasks with lots of action. Here are the things that particularly impressed me:
1. Vince and Sam seeing 6am on the Hours of Operation sign at the flower market and then telling themselves it is really 7am. The loss of an hour in a tight, short episode could have resulted in their elimination from this mistake.
2. Geoff trying to get away with stealing a basket of chickens from AD and Fuzzie.
3. Geoff saying "this is starting to annoy me. Let's get out of here" in a very frustrated voice.
4. I hear the clue instruction "travel by bus to" and the video shows everyone taking vans(could they be classified as "buses"?).
5. Natalie was a total pain throughout her time in the Bangkok airport when stranded overnight and Pailin elects to have them sleep there. Natalie was also a pain when making references to minimal cleanliness and wanting to quit as a result. Has she never seen an Amazing Race? Did she think it would be a picnic designed to coddle her? Where are Dustin and Kandace when you need them in ARA3?
6. I thought that the rules of the gift to a charity were broken at least twice. One team gave the balance of their unspent funds to their charity. Although I'm sure that would be the best outcome for the charity, I doubt that that is what the ARA creators had in mind. Why didn't that team get a penalty? Of course the worst offendors were Pailin and Natalie who gave their entire $500. That makes it easy on them but defeats the purpose of the task.
7. Bernie and Henry are tough as I expected they would be. AD and Fuzzie have surprised me by being much quicker to do things than I expected. Natalie has wiped out, but Pailin has the right attitudes and may be able to keep that team on course.
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: puddin on September 19, 2008, 05:18:33 PM
Allan's blog gives us free dates (http://www.alivenotdead.com/viewphotos.php?aid=1184851), why did we not know this? :lol:
The man in the middle is Yves Simard, I'd know him anywhere. He gave us TARA2 spoilers by accident.
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: TARAsia Fan on September 19, 2008, 05:32:29 PM
Now I really have to interview Allan! :lol: :lol:
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TARAsia Fan: So we know you were in Vietnam on May 22.
Allan Wu: How do you know that?
TF: The date is on the file name on your .jpg.
AW: Oh, snap! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on September 19, 2008, 05:33:59 PM
SHHHHHH!! Don't tell, for gosh sakes! :lol3:
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: puddin on September 19, 2008, 05:43:10 PM
Don't tell Ken :lol:
I feel so stupid :funny:
http://www.alivenotdead.com/viewphotos.php?aid=1184850 Picture Owner: Allan Wu Blog Entry: Seoul Long, Team Korea... 5/23/2008 5:18AM
http://www.alivenotdead.com/viewphotos.php?aid=849202 Picture Owner: Allan Wu Blog Entry: It's Official--THE AMAZING RACE ASIA 3 Begins on September 11!!! 5/23/2008 5:18AM
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: TARAsia Fan on September 19, 2008, 05:45:33 PM
Come on, do you think I'd be that stupid?
Don't answer that. :hides :hides
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: banzai on September 19, 2008, 05:58:56 PM
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Picture Owner: Allan Wu Blog Entry: Seoul Long, Team Korea... 5/23/2008 5:18AM
Hahaha, so long team Korea. Hehe.
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: puddin on September 19, 2008, 06:12:59 PM
banzai! lmao :lol: , your silly.
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: apskip on September 19, 2008, 07:16:40 PM
Since 4 teams on camera appeared to fly from Chiang Mai directly to Siem Reap, I want to see how that can be explained. The only airline listed as flying that route is Bangkok Airways and the flight is PG927 arriving at 1830 (and probably departing around 1700). However, it is listed as Thursday and Saturday only. Thursday was May 22 and Saturday May 24. May 22 was the correct day of the week for the flight. However, when I attempt to put Chiang Mai to Siem Reap into the Bangkok Airways reservations system, it will not allow it. I have to believe that those teams booked it anyway.
That fight connects as previously indicated to VN848 REP SGN 2025 2125.
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: Littlemik on September 19, 2008, 10:09:36 PM
actually pailin & natalie really would have been on 8th place..the thing is they went straight to their charity & just gave the money w/o having to buy anything becoz the director said that she will be the one to buy the things while mai & oliver had to buy a laptop still before going to their charity.. isaac & william got screwed on the chicken detour, labeling themselves as "city boys", they were slow on getting the chickens
I was a little surprised that Isaac and William had to buy food. I would have thought the director would have just asked for the money to buy fresh food the next day.
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: TARAsia Fan on September 20, 2008, 03:05:55 PM
After watching this episode, Natalie did not come off well. As badly as Mai came off in the first episode, Natalie comes off even worse! Oliver was absolutely right. He wanted to race and Pailin wanted to race. It looks like Mai came for fun, but at least I give her credit for wanting to be with the kids at the orphanage. If you put Oliver and Pailin together, dropping Mai and Natalie, you'd have one formidable team!
Pailin wanted to save money by staying at Bangkok Airport instead of going to a hotel. I was waiting for Natalie to make a stupid comment like Kendra's "ghetto Africa" in TAR6, but it didn't happen. Natalie & Pailin were lucky the director of their charity just took the money.
And Geoff!!! Where can I begin on this douchebag? Blowing a whistle?? Yelling at Tisha?? I'm thinking about my recap and wondering who's going to get it worse? Geoff or Natalie. It's a tossup right now.
Lastly, I'll have to ask this of Michael McKay later in the season, but I wonder knowing how many people of privilege there are in this season, did he and the production staff decide to ramp up the physical tasks to "knock them down a peg" so to speak. I'm actually enjoying the season to date and liking the fact that so many of the racers are finding this to be very tough.
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: apskip on September 20, 2008, 04:58:50 PM
TARAsia fan, I regard Natalie's statements about and in Bangkok Ariport for the night as classifying her as a total prima donna, a bit worse than Mai who was not obnoxious at all in episode 2 except when refusing to bag chickens. Her statements about needing constant cleanliness are even more absurd in the context of a race which allows time for that at pitstops but seldom in between them. Which race did she think she was doing, the Powderpuff Derby?
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: snap-on on September 24, 2008, 11:21:39 AM
Her statements about needing constant cleanliness are even more absurd in the context of a race which allows time for that at pitstops but seldom in between them. Which race did she think she was doing, the Powderpuff Derby?
Nat should say 'being dirty is the lowest form of human existence' on their audition tape....... :duno:
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: scuzneck on September 25, 2008, 02:51:40 PM
Having to say that I am fully loving TARA and seeing the beutiful Asian countryside as the seasons and episodes have played out...Just wish that one video site had better quality...but hey, at least I can watch it...
Question...Does anyone know the times that each group finished? I have always wanted some sort of time snippet during the show to give viewers a better sense of placement. I know that the producers want the "Surprise Effect." So they edit to their advantage.
It has gotten to the point where I look for shadows or for dwindling sunlight, etc. to prove to my wife that a team is so far or so close behind.
Title: Re: TARA 3 Episode 2 Discussion Thread **HOT spoilers--WILL contain show spoilers**
Post by: bangun on September 26, 2008, 04:50:40 PM
Durin the episode there is no accurate way to know how far teams are apart if you don't see them in the same shot, except the things you already mentioned (shadows). The teams themselves sometimes say stuff like "now we have to wait an hour for the bus" or "we ran around 30mins searching for a taxi" or something like that, so those are clues as well. The only accurate time that is given is in the next episode when they start, so you can see how far apart they arrived at the pitstop.