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Title: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Chateau d If on April 25, 2008, 01:19:42 AM
When I was at LAX I took pictures of all of the travel books at the bookstore.
Here is the top of the section. Do you see what is missing? :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: Slowhatch on April 25, 2008, 02:24:12 AM
Visiting the bookstore was a good idea. :tup: By all accounts they weren't rushed at LAX, so some clerk probably knows the books they bought (and first stop).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: Chateau d If on April 25, 2008, 03:45:21 AM
I was unable to get anything out of the clerks there.
But Argentina is missing. ;)
Today, 4/25/08, I had the clerk there check to see if they usually have an Argentina travel book in stock. They don't keep it. So noting it's absence was a red herring.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: apskip on April 25, 2008, 08:31:34 AM
When I was at LAX I took pictures of all of the travel books at the bookstore.
Here is the top of the section. Do you see what is missing? :yess:
Actually, CHATEAU, I don't. There is no space to the left of Australia(where Argentina would logically be placed) and there is none to the right of Australia at the end of that Lonely Planet mini-section. So I conlcude absolutely nothing from that picture.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: Neobie on April 25, 2008, 09:06:29 AM
As the West Coast gateway out of America, it looks like the store has a good stock of books for across the Pacific; China and Australia are the books stacked vertically, and these are also the thicker volumes Lonely Planet prints. Since LAX doesn't have direct flights to Buenos Aires, and the Argentina LP is hardly as thick as China or Australia, I would suppose a Lonely Planet Argentina would have been arranged with the spine facing out.
In that arrangement, I think you could squeeze at the very most one extra book in the middle cell, where Argentina would probably be. But one book missing doesn't mean very much at an airport as busy as LAX.
Going by the rest of the display, only up to three books of the same title would be put on the shelf at one time; if a huge group of the same title is sold from the shelves, the staff would most definitely replenish the shelves with the title (they have massive stocks) instead of shifting up every cell to fill the shelves end-to-end as we see here.
In that scenario, the presence, rather than the absence, of a book would be more indicative of teams all jumping on a book.
I'm not 100% sure on the conclusivity of the photo... We should go back to work some form of torture on the clerk! blahblah
(LP's "Buenos Aires Encounter" has been left untouched on the middle bracket, but really, who buys these mini-guides anyway?)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: georgiapeach on April 25, 2008, 10:26:21 AM
My bookstore has a South America section where the Argentina book would be--hence under S rather than A....
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: Chateau d If on April 25, 2008, 10:36:43 AM
Here is the middle of the section:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: Chateau d If on April 25, 2008, 10:38:38 AM
And the bottom. That is all they had. One section. If someone wants a zoom in I can do that.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: gingerman28 on April 25, 2008, 11:15:49 AM
Visiting the bookstore was a good idea. :tup: By all accounts they weren't rushed at LAX, so some clerk probably knows the books they bought (and first stop).
Perhaps they weren't smart enough to even stop in the bookshop and buy a guide book! Any way to pressure the United clerk to find out where the three teams were buying tickets to?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: apskip on April 25, 2008, 11:29:51 AM
It may not be that teams weren't smart enough to look into Argentina books. Thye may not have had time to do so. traditionally a race begins at 9 or 10am. Getting to LAX then takes time dwepending on the distance. With security and checkin reuirements, they would be pushing these 1pm-odd departures.
Title: Speculation
Post by: apskip on April 25, 2008, 12:59:52 PM
It's a good time to create a pure speculation thread. Teams are about to leave Buenos Aires. Where are they headed? I can state the following:
1. The emphasis in AR11 on Patagonia makes it unlikely that they will go there again. 2. The trip to Mendoza in AR7 makes that area unlikely too. 3. The trip to Motevideo, Uruguay and San Carlos de Bariloche, Argentina in AR5 make those unlikely. 4. The AR11 focus on Quito, Calama, Santiago, and Puerto Montt makes all of Chile unlikely. 5. The previous trip in AR7 to Lima and Cuzco and Arequipa make Peru unlikely except for Iquitos. 6. The previous trips to Rio de Janeiro in AR2 and Sao Paulo in AR9 make those two major cities in Brazil unlikely.
Where in South America does that leave as possible? 1. Paraguay - untouched in its entirety 2. Iguassu Falls - on the border of Brazil, Paraguay and nearly Argnetina 3. Bolivia - untouched in its entirety 4. Brasilia 5. all of the Amazon including Manaus, Belem, Iquitos 6. Salvador, Brazil 7. Recife, Brazil
Where would I go? Iguassu Falls, which is where I think they are about to arrive at right now by bus or plane from Buenos Aires.
When South American legs are done, how would I leave South America? The jump to Johannesburg has been overused. I would go direct to Europe, probably Paris or London or Lisbon or Madrid. Of those Madrid is the only one never on an Amazing Race before so that would be my favorite.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: graytex on April 25, 2008, 01:14:45 PM
Good thoughts! Lately they haven't done much "natural beauty" stuff. How about staying in Buenos Aires? Something to do with Evita Peron? Dancing (although that's been done to death). Soccer & beach volleyball have also been done.
Side note: There have been lots of news stories about the terrible smoke in Buenos Aires over the last few weeks.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: Zack. on April 25, 2008, 01:25:46 PM
I'm thinking Bolivia; it has a variety of climates so that it can provide the contrast between legs that the South American legs tend to use (city vs. jungle in TAR2, TAR9, city vs. mountains in TAR5, and the different parts in TAR7 and TAR11). Second best bet would be northern Brazil in the jungle (Manaus would be fine). If they were to remain in Argentina, perhaps Rosario and other cities along the Rio Parana would be visited?
After South America is done, I also think we'll have a leg in Europe. My top choices in Europe would be either Madrid or London, though I don't think a leg in Germany (perhaps an actual Frankfurt leg) is too out of the question. From there, who knows? I do think that given the emphasis on the Mediterranean in the last race, that there might be some more northern European legs (and maybe TAR will finally go to Belgium or Denmark, whose exclusion in TAR so far has baffled me).
And as far as far out predictions, I suspect there will be a trip to New Zealand near the end of the race - it's been a while since they visited the land of the Kiwi. Perhaps Phil's trip home earlier in the year was for more than just recreational purposes...
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: patlini on April 25, 2008, 01:29:18 PM
How about the Falklands? or Malvina's
and then Peach's long awaited trip to the Antarctic - though Winter is approaching
And i agree re: Northern Europe. I would like to see the UK again for obvious reasons.
So much they've missed (only London and Cambridge) Morris Dancing as it will be May soon.
I definitely expect to see Copenhagen in this one and The Czech republic hopefully Madrid
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: mswood on April 25, 2008, 01:40:24 PM
Also we need to remember I assume that the store was checked when sited on the 23rd), that even when teams can't purchase a guidebook or don't want to spend the money. Every single episode that has footage (or online clip) shows or talks about teams hiding the books of the place they are going so that teams that get their later wont beable to find a copy.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: apskip on April 25, 2008, 01:41:37 PM
Good thoughts! Lately they haven't done much "natural beauty" stuff. How about staying in Buenos Aires? Something to do with Evita Peron? Dancing (although that's been done to death). Soccer & beach volleyball have also been done.
Side note: There have been lots of news stories about the terrible smoke in Buenos Aires over the last few weeks.
graytex, Evita Peron's grave was visited the last time in Buenos Aires, which I recall to be AR5.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: mswood on April 25, 2008, 01:43:35 PM
I think I would like them to play against type and go to the Pacific rim after South America instead of heading to either Europe or Africa.
God knows I miss New Zealand and Australia.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: Kogs on April 25, 2008, 02:12:42 PM
airport departures from yesterday for eze
midnight-3am Madrid- flight UX48 left at 1:25am Santiago- flight LC7410 left at 2:00am Madrid- flight AR1132 left at 2:25am 3-6am Panama City- flight CM 453 left at 3:04am Sao Paulo- flight JJ8803 left at 4:47am Ushuaia- flight AR2850 left at 11:00am scheduled for 5:30am 6-9am Rio De Janerio- flight AR1250 left 10:35am scheduled for 6:10am Lima- flight T022 left 9:11am scheduled for 6:35am Rio De Janerio- flight RG8641 left at 6:45am Rio De Janerio- flight RG8619 left at 9:25am scheduled for 6:50am Sao Paulo- flight AR1240 left at 9:50am scheduled for 6:50am Santiago- flight LA570 left at 7:58am scheduled for 7:00am Sao Paulo- flight RG8631 left at 9:20am scheduled for 7:00am Sao Paulo- flight JJ8007 left at 9:54am scheduled for 7:00am Santiago- flight AR1280 left at 10:20am scheduled for 7:30am Bogota- flight AV88 left at 7:45am scheduled for 7:35am El Calafate- flight AR1892 left at 10:25am scheduled for 8:00am Lima- flight LP426 left at 9:25am scheduled for 8:45am Asuncion- flight AR1260 left at 10:05 scheduled for 8:50am 9-12pm Montevideo- flight PZ703 left at 9:00am Santiago- flight 4M 4630 left at 12:05pm scheduled for 9:05am Lima- flight MP 6713 left at 9:15am Rio De Janerio- flight AR1254 left at 10:30am scheduled for 9:30am Sao Paulo- flight 4M 4550 left at 1:19pm scheduled for 10:05am Ushuaia- flight AR2898 left at 11:10am scheduled for 10:25am Sao Paulo- flight G3 7457 left at 11:00 AM Asuncion- flight PZ 702 left at 11:30 AM Santa Cruz- flight AR 1362 left at 1:45 PM scheduled for 11:30 AM Santiago- flight LA 622 left at 11:32 AM 12:00-3pm PTY Panama City CM 278 COPA 12:10 PM 1:29 PM GRU Sao Paulo BA 246 British Airways 12:15 PM 12:11 PM MEX Mexico City MX 1692 Mexicana 12:20 PM FCO Rome AZ 681 Alitalia 12:20 PM Santiago-XL 1446 12:55PM 12:45PM Rio De Janeiro-JJ 8017 Lleft at 2:06 PM scheduled for 1:00pm Madrid- flight IB 6842 left 1:25 PM Sao Paulo- flight JJ 8019 left at 3:04 PM scheduled for 2:10pm Sao Paulo- flight AR 1248 left at 2:30 PM Santiago- flight AR 1286 left 2:45 PM Porto Alegre- flight JJ 8021 left at 2:57 scheduled for 2:50pm Rio De Janeiro- flight AR 1256 left at 4:25 PM scheduled for 2:55pm Madrid- flight A7 38 left at 12:40 PM Madrid- flight UX 42 left at 12:20 PM Madrid- flight AR 1138 left at 12:40 PM 3-6:00pm Code City Scheduled Actual Status POA Porto Alegre AR 1220 Aerolineas Argentinas 3:10 PM 4:10 PM GRU Sao Paulo RG 8633 Varig 3:20 PM 3:00 PM CCS Caracas AR 1380 Aerolineas Argentinas 3:20 PM 3:20 PM ASU Asuncion G3 7471 Gol Transportes Aereos 3:30 PM POA Porto Alegre RG 8615 Varig 3:50 PM 4:00 PM AGT Ciudad del Este PZ 705 TAM 4:00 PM VVI Santa Cruz 5L 211 Aerosur 4:00 PM VVI Santa Cruz LB 932 LAB 4:00 PM GRU Sao Paulo AR 1244 Aerolineas Argentinas 4:10 PM 5:50 PM GRU Sao Paulo JJ 8005 TAM Linhas Aereas 4:30 PM 4:49 PM SCL Santiago 4M 4634 Lan Argentina 4:45 PM 5:51 PM GRU Sao Paulo G3 7453 Gol Transportes Aereos 4:55 PM CDG Paris AF 415 Air France 5:05 PM 4:54 PM GIG Rio De Janeiro RG 8617 Varig 5:30 PM 5:19 PM SCL Santiago AR 1288 Aerolineas Argentinas 5:30 PM 7:00 PM 6-9:00pm LIM Lima T0 24 TACA Peru 6:00 PM 5:40 PM GRU Sao Paulo JJ 8011 TAM Linhas Aereas 6:10 PM 6:47 PM SCL Santiago LA 532 Lan Airlines 6:15 PM 6:17 PM GRU Sao Paulo RG 8635 Varig 6:50 PM 6:50 PM GRU Sao Paulo AR 1262 Aerolineas Argentinas 7:00 PM 8:35 PM ORD Chicago AA 964 American Airlines 7:35 PM 7:31 PM DKR Dakar AF 6805 Air France 7:35 PM LIM Lima AR 1364 Aerolineas Argentinas 7:45 PM 9:40 PM GRU Sao Paulo RG 8637 Varig 8:00 PM 8:08 PM LIM Lima LP 428 Lan Peru 8:10 PM 8:11 PM JFK New York AA 956 American Airlines 8:20 PM 8:15 PM BCN Barcelona AR 1160 Aerolineas Argentinas 8:30 PM 9:45 PM ATL Atlanta DL 110 Delta Air Lines 8:30 PM 8:23 PM SCL Santiago LA 602 Lan Airlines 8:40 PM 8:42 PM 9-midnight POA Porto Alegre G3 7459 Gol Transportes Aereos 9:00 PM IAD Washington UA 846 United Airlines 9:05 PM 8:57 PM MAD Madrid AR 1134 Aerolineas Argentinas 9:10 PM 9:45 PM MIA Miami AA 900 American Airlines 9:10 PM 9:06 PM SCL Santiago G3 7456 Gol Transportes Aereos 9:20 PM DFW Dallas AA 996 American Airlines 9:25 PM 9:30 PM SCL Santiago LP 429 Lan Peru 9:35 PM 9:45 PM MAD Madrid IB 6844 Iberia 9:45 PM 9:42 PM IAH Houston CO 52 Continental Airlines 9:50 PM 9:46 PM LIM Lima AM 1029 Aeromexico 10:00 PM 10:00 PM MIA Miami AA 908 American Airlines 10:25 PM 10:22 PM MIA Miami 4M 4520 Lan Argentina 10:30 PM ASU Asuncion PZ 700 TAM 10:40 PM MEX Mexico City MX 1694 Mexicana 11:30 PM 11:20 PM
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: mswood on April 25, 2008, 02:57:34 PM
Any thoughts on if we will have a regular season or the reduced length of the last season.
While I really liked last season (much better casting after all then I thought). It just flew by.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: apskip on April 25, 2008, 03:13:11 PM
I noted in Kogs' listing of all flights from Buenos Aires that Asuncion and SantaCruz Bolivia were both there multiple times. His list was developed based only on EZE, the international airport. Newberry (code AEP) is the Buenos Aires domestic airport. It has flights to all over Argentina. It also has some international flights. I found a 2-stop flight to Iguassu Falls and a 1-stop flight to Asuncion. However, I basically agree with the depth of listings that Kogs found from EZE. The could get to Iguassu Falls and many places in northen Argentina by bus, but I don't think that's what they did.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: Kogs on April 25, 2008, 04:18:53 PM
I noted in Kogs' listing of all flights from Buenos Aires that Asuncion and SantaCruz Bolivia were both there multiple times. His list was developed based only on EZE, the international airport. Newberry (code AEP) is the Buenos Aires domestic airport. It has flights to all over Argentina. It also has some international flights. I found a 2-stop flight to Iguassu Falls and a 1-stop flight to Asuncion. However, I basically agree with the depth of listings that Kogs found from EZE. The could get to Iguassu Falls and many places in northen Argentina by bus, but I don't think that's what they did.
:angel: :angel: forgot about the domestic airport lol
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: apskip on April 25, 2008, 07:26:41 PM
1. The emphasis in AR11 on Patagonia makes it unlikely that they will go there again. 2. The trip to Mendoza in AR7 makes that area unlikely too. 3. The trip to Motevideo, Uruguay and San Carlos de Bariloche, Argentina in AR5 make those unlikely. 4. The AR11 focus on Quito, Calama, Santiago, and Puerto Montt makes all of Chile unlikely. 5. The previous trip in AR7 to Lima and Cuzco and Arequipa make Peru unlikely except for Iquitos. 6. The previous trips to Rio de Janeiro in AR2 and Sao Paulo in AR9 make those two major cities in Brazil unlikely.
Where in South America does that leave as possible? 1. Paraguay - untouched in its entirety 2. Iguassu Falls - on the border of Brazil, Paraguay and nearly Argnetina 3. Bolivia - untouched in its entirety 4. Brasilia 5. all of the Amazon including Manaus, Belem, Iquitos 6. Salvador, Brazil 7. Recife, Brazil
Where would I go? Iguassu Falls, which is where I think they are about to arrive at right now by bus or plane from Buenos Aires.
When South American legs are done, how would I leave South America? The jump to Johannesburg has been overused. I would go direct to Europe, probably Paris or London or Lisbon or Madrid. Of those Madrid is the only one never on an Amazing Race before so that would be my favorite.
The above post #10 holds up extremely well despite the shift from Buenos Aires to Sao Paulo. The only thing that changes is the first #6, which changes from Sao Paulo in AR9 to Buenos Aires in AR5.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: Zack. on April 25, 2008, 07:55:55 PM
Given the shift to Sao Paolo, I think that Salvador and Recife are fairly good follow up destinations (assuming Sao Paolo isn't just a transit point to another city).
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: gingerman28 on April 26, 2008, 03:44:03 PM
Given the shift to Sao Paolo, I think that Salvador and Recife are fairly good follow up destinations (assuming Sao Paolo isn't just a transit point to another city).
Don't overlook Manaus or Belem; good locations for a ding on the Amazon to chase piranhas.
Won't deal with ethanol again I am sure.
And good chance they will come back through GRU on April 26; but to where?
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: apskip on April 26, 2008, 04:42:20 PM
GMAN, if you read the Timetables and Flight Information thread, maybe you could answer that question. My answers include:
Madrid Lisbon London Paris Frankfurt
All of these have nonstop flights from Sao Paulo that I have listed in a posting. However, the most interesting possiblity is going to Auckland New Zealand via either Santiago Chile or Buenos Aires, both of which have nonstop service that is also listed in a separate posting.
Of course, my logic of nonstop flights proved faulty on the first flights from LAX, but is less likely to prove faulty going long distances over the Atlantic Ocean or the Pacific Ocean as they are no reasonable transit points along the way. We could easily have a connecting flight to get to Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires, or Rio de Janeiro before hopping over the Atlantic or to Santiago or Buenos Aires before hopping over the Pacific.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: gingerman28 on April 26, 2008, 09:57:32 PM
GMAN, if you read the Timetables and Flight Information thread, maybe you could answer that question. My answers include:
Madrid Lisbon London Paris Frankfurt
All of these have nonstop flights from Sao Paulo that I have listed in a posting. However, the most interesting possiblity is going to Auckland New Zealand via either Santiago Chile or Buenos Aires, both of which have nonstop service that is also listed in a separate posting.
Of course, my logic of nonstop flights proved faulty on the first flights from LAX, but is less likely to prove faulty going long distances over the Atlantic Ocean or the Pacific Ocean as they are no reasonable transit points along the way. We could easily have a connecting flight to get to Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires, or Rio de Janeiro before hopping over the Atlantic or to Santiago or Buenos Aires before hopping over the Pacific.
Flying from S. America to New Zealand would certainly fit into "new twists and turns" for TAR13. So perhaps a visit to either Argentina or Santiago for an elimination before the leap across the pond.
No thougts on a hop to Africa after S. America? How does one get to the Verde Islands? That would be another new location.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: Kiwi Jay on April 26, 2008, 10:11:40 PM
if NZ I can be of help with this, I live in Tauranga about 2 hrs from Auckland, and its no bother to go there!!
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: Zack. on April 26, 2008, 10:38:53 PM
GMAN, if you read the Timetables and Flight Information thread, maybe you could answer that question. My answers include:
Madrid Lisbon London Paris Frankfurt
All of these have nonstop flights from Sao Paulo that I have listed in a posting. However, the most interesting possiblity is going to Auckland New Zealand via either Santiago Chile or Buenos Aires, both of which have nonstop service that is also listed in a separate posting.
Of course, my logic of nonstop flights proved faulty on the first flights from LAX, but is less likely to prove faulty going long distances over the Atlantic Ocean or the Pacific Ocean as they are no reasonable transit points along the way. We could easily have a connecting flight to get to Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires, or Rio de Janeiro before hopping over the Atlantic or to Santiago or Buenos Aires before hopping over the Pacific.
Flying from S. America to New Zealand would certainly fit into "new twists and turns" for TAR13. So perhaps a visit to either Argentina or Santiago for an elimination before the leap across the pond.
No thougts on a hop to Africa after S. America? How does one get to the Verde Islands? That would be another new location.
I think the only thing we could feasibly rule out is yet another trip to southern Africa via Johannesburg. I think Western Africa might be a good choice though I'm not sure if the trip to Burkina Faso last time has put a damper on that. In particular, Ghana and Mauritania or Morocco (as well as the Cape Verdes).
The best way to get to the Cape Verdes would be through Dakar or Paris, perhaps also Madrid.
EDIT: Turns out the islands are a ways more connected than anticipated. The biggies in Europe are covered as are quite a few other European cities (including Verona and Dusseldorf, both places where I'd love to see the race head to), but in more relevant avenues, there's also a direct flight from Fortaleza to Praia. Interesting...
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: gingerman28 on April 27, 2008, 03:08:32 PM
I think the only thing we could feasibly rule out is yet another trip to southern Africa via Johannesburg. I think Western Africa might be a good choice though I'm not sure if the trip to Burkina Faso last time has put a damper on that. In particular, Ghana and Mauritania or Morocco (as well as the Cape Verdes).
The best way to get to the Cape Verdes would be through Dakar or Paris, perhaps also Madrid.
EDIT: Turns out the islands are a ways more connected than anticipated. The biggies in Europe are covered as are quite a few other European cities (including Verona and Dusseldorf, both places where I'd love to see the race head to), but in more relevant avenues, there's also a direct flight from Fortaleza to Praia. Interesting... [/quote]
Now that is real interesting. Fortaleza is easily reached from Sao Paulo. So this would be a really good new wrinkle for TAR to follow. Let's keep our eyes open on this one.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: Kiwi Jay on April 27, 2008, 04:26:07 PM
what is the best flight to reach Fortaleza from Sao Paulo
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: gingerman28 on April 27, 2008, 08:32:50 PM
what is the best flight to reach Fortaleza from Sao Paulo
There are about 20 flights a day between GRU and FOR on the domestic Brazilian airline TAM. First flight is around 1:30PM and the last flight at 11:59PM. The flight time is between 3 hours and 20 minutes and seven hours depending on the number of stops (it is a local airline).
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: apskip on April 27, 2008, 10:23:14 PM
I want to respond to several points raised by GMAN:
I think the only thing we could feasibly rule out is yet another trip to southern Africa via Johannesburg. - I agree.
I'm not sure if the trip to Burkina Faso last time has put a damper on that(Western Africa). - I consider Western Africa unlikely because most flights in are from Paris or other European cities and because it was visited in AR12.
The best way to get to the Cape Verdes would be through Dakar or Paris, perhaps also Madrid. - the best way to get to Cape Verde Islands is through the country that owns them, Portugal. There are 4 daily flights from Lisbon to Praia and 3 daily direct returns. However, why would anybody backtrack over a thousand miles to the southwest once they were is Lisbon? I wouldn't.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: Zack. on April 28, 2008, 10:09:58 AM
I want to respond to several points raised by GMAN:
I think the only thing we could feasibly rule out is yet another trip to southern Africa via Johannesburg. - I agree.
I'm not sure if the trip to Burkina Faso last time has put a damper on that(Western Africa). - I consider Western Africa unlikely because most flights in are from Paris or other European cities and because it was visited in AR12.
The best way to get to the Cape Verdes would be through Dakar or Paris, perhaps also Madrid. - the best way to get to Cape Verde Islands is through the country that owns them, Portugal. There are 4 daily flights from Lisbon to Praia and 3 daily direct returns. However, why would anybody backtrack over a thousand miles to the southwest once they were is Lisbon? I wouldn't.
They've done it as part of the actual race route before in TAR6 going from Stockholm to Dakar and (and to a lesser degree when they went from Quito to Santiago to Calama in AS). As far as for connecting flights, there are the journey between South America and Europe that the show has had as well as going from Kuwait to London to Mauritius (IIRC). Besides, BVM said that the route is intense and extreme and all that. Sure he's a lying liar who lies, but I believe him about that.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: gingerman28 on April 28, 2008, 02:02:45 PM
I want to respond to several points raised by GMAN:
The best way to get to the Cape Verdes would be through Dakar or Paris, perhaps also Madrid. - the best way to get to Cape Verde Islands is through the country that owns them, Portugal. There are 4 daily flights from Lisbon to Praia and 3 daily direct returns. However, why would anybody backtrack over a thousand miles to the southwest once they were is Lisbon? I wouldn't.
TACV the national airline of the Cape Verde Islands now flies direct to three cities in Brazil: Recife, Natal and Fortaleza. They also have direct service to Lisbon and Madrid. And to Senegal. The internatioal airport is in Praia, the capital of CVI, the airport code is RAI.
If the teams are going to another site in Brazil, Recife with its african influence on its culture and the closeness of the Amazon might be a good spot for the teams to travel to from Sao Paulo.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: apskip on April 28, 2008, 03:51:58 PM
I agree with the desirability of visiting the Amazon, which means trips out of Manaus, not Recife on the coast. See my TACV flight schedule in the Timetables and flight Information thread for details on how often TACV flies into the Cape Verde Islands from where. It does NOT include anywhere in Brazil except Fortaleza.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: Zack. on April 29, 2008, 10:30:12 PM
Given the shift to Sao Paolo, I think that Salvador and Recife are (is a) fairly good follow up destinations (assuming Sao Paolo isn't just a transit point to another city).
Well I'll be damned. (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg299771.html#msg299771) Now to see if it was just a lucky guess...we're going to Copenhagen perhaps? :duno:
And if that's true, then we just might finally have an all-female team win :jam:
In slightly more serious news, we're still at square one somewhat; going out of Salvador there are flights out to the usual subjects in the Latin countries - London, Miami, Lisbon, Madrid which, while infrequent (many 1x per week), can all connect to various other cities. Not to mention, they could easily fly back to Sao Paolo and go to lots of places from there. The last time they went to Brazil they followed up with a trip to Russia, though the majority of trips to South America are followed with trips to southern Africa. All I know is, I doubt they're going to India from Salvador :lol:
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on April 29, 2008, 10:51:54 PM
Okay--arr SaoPaulo 4/23 AM and by 4/24 they are in Salvador?
Would they have just transited in Sao Paulo or do we think they may have actually stayed there a day?
Ideas?
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: puddin on April 29, 2008, 11:15:35 PM
Closest I can find at flickr Salvador, elevador lacerda Taken on April 21, 2008 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/flores__paisagens/2444085002/sizes/l/), another (http://www.flickr.com/photos/flores__paisagens/2444085002/sizes/l/)
April 22 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25909999@N03/2434447102/sizes/o/) April 28 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26096507@N02/2449316273/sizes/l/)
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: Zack. on April 29, 2008, 11:28:58 PM
Okay--arr SaoPaulo 4/23 AM and by 4/24 they are in Salvador?
Would they have just transited in Sao Paulo or do we think they may have actually stayed there a day?
Ideas?
It could be like many premieres (TAR 6 and TAR 7 immediately come to mind, though there are others) where there's a task or two (or even a roadblock) in Sao Paolo, then something to carry the racers over through the night, be it charter buses/flights or hours of operation bunching in Sao Paolo and then continuing the leg in Salvador the next morning.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: puddin on April 29, 2008, 11:52:23 PM
Good job apskip & Zach :jumpy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: Mrs Shrek on April 30, 2008, 12:31:47 AM
I've attached a different from normal view of elevador lacerda, and a pic of Terreiro de Jesus
Credit for pics below http://deputy-dog.com/2007/10/02/interesting-elevators/ http://gordonye.com/travels.html
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: mswood on April 30, 2008, 12:46:37 AM
Teams arrive in Sao Paulo on Wednesday morning of the 23rd.
We then have them on the 24th in Salvador.
So the question is this part of leg one or part of leg 2.
So far in the shows 12 season history, teams have arrived and completed a leg on the same day in the following seasons.
Season 9. All others have teams arriving in country and having to to search for clues, do tasks and travel over a two day period.
Out of seasons 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11 and 12. There has never been a detour in during the first day. They typical must find route marker, then travel elsewhere to draw numbers for departures for the next day (Seasons 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 11 and 12). Season 8 at teams automatically get their position when they assembled their camp. Only one season featured teams performing a roadblock on the first day (season 10). Out of these seasons only season 1 has had a shuttle flight ben the method of travel on the 2nd day.
In season 9 (when the leg was the first day teams) teams first arrived at 10:15am and the teams finished between 5:34pm to 7:28pm.
What would help to discover is what type on the 24th teams did tasks. An am time would almost assure us that it was part of the first leg (since between arriving and doing tasks, tehir wouldn't be enough time for the typical 12 hour pit stop).
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: Mrs Shrek on April 30, 2008, 12:51:09 AM
Thursday, 24 of April of 2008 Reality international show records special in Salvador During three days, Salvador will be the scene of reality American show "the Maratona", program produced for the Planet Film Productions and visa for more than 50 million people per year.
From the spoiler thread. It seems like they were there for 3 days, which I would assume would probably include a pitstop then? I guess this might help the scheduling and flight detectives work out when the racers were back on the move again?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: puddin on April 30, 2008, 01:24:07 AM
Oh thank you HiFi :hfive: :yess: and good catch Slowhatch!
*the Salvador ferry boat system is having big problems with maintenance and upkeep, and therefore with the schedule. There are hours-long waits for crossings. Unless you absolutely have to get a car across you are better off taking the pequena lancha from the Terminal Marítimo.*
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: Kiwi Jay on April 30, 2008, 01:50:50 AM
Could they go Sao Paulo = 23rd Salvador = 24th
Episode 2:
Salvador = 2 days? unless they havent got their facts straight
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: Dragoondaniel on April 30, 2008, 04:25:54 AM
Personally, I'm hoping that the pit-stop won't be in Sao Paolo. Leg 1 covering Bahia and Sao Paolo would be awesome.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: Kiwi Jay on April 30, 2008, 04:32:32 AM
I think its Salvador Dragoon since the race started 22 and they were in Sao Paolo early morning 23rd and Salvador is the 24th!
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: apskip on April 30, 2008, 07:42:05 AM
Thursday, 24 of April of 2008 Reality international show records special in Salvador During three days, Salvador will be the scene of reality American show "the Maratona", program produced for the Planet Film Productions and visa for more than 50 million people per year.
From the spoiler thread. It seems like they were there for 3 days, which I would assume would probably include a pitstop then? I guess this might help the scheduling and flight detectives work out when the racers were back on the move again?
Yep. They could also send out some crews in advance to film establishing shots or Phil's task descriptions which could add another day. (hence why the filming job listing that Kogs found mentions starting on the 21st)
I think the article mentioned that they arrived on the morning of the 24th, so it's very likely that they could finish in the afternoon of the 24th/evening depending on the tasks and teams, which would have them leaving in the morning of the 25th. If the 23rd were used for filming purposes, then there's our 3 days.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: puddin on April 30, 2008, 08:16:16 PM
I need something/somewhere to look for :help:, can someone give me ideas please? Way too much time on my hands and I need a lead ??? .......is WRP now running under "The Marathon"? :lol:
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: michael on April 30, 2008, 08:19:55 PM
LOL puddin i;'ve been stpidly searching for "the marathon" thinking that is a code name or something.
I CANT FIND ANYTHING :'( :'(
try searching africa i guess, dont they always go there after SA?
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: puddin on April 30, 2008, 08:21:48 PM
Why would they go to Argentina when they are heading north from Sao Paulo to Salvador de Bahia?
Cou ld be they head next to Fortaleza and then catch a TACV flight on Saturday to the Cape Verde Islandsl. Just to keep the teams headed toward new locations.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: Kogs on April 30, 2008, 09:36:55 PM
i would love for them to goto latvia
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: puddin on April 30, 2008, 09:41:21 PM
Why would they go to Argentina when they are heading north from Sao Paulo to Salvador de Bahia?
Cou ld be they head next to Fortaleza and then catch a TACV flight on Saturday to the Cape Verde Islandsl. Just to keep the teams headed toward new locations.
....hey I'm grasping here Gman :D. I don't want to see Argentina nor Africa.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: Kogs on April 30, 2008, 09:43:59 PM
Why would they go to Argentina when they are heading north from Sao Paulo to Salvador de Bahia?
Cou ld be they head next to Fortaleza and then catch a TACV flight on Saturday to the Cape Verde Islandsl. Just to keep the teams headed toward new locations.
....hey I'm grasping here Gman :D. I don't want to see Argentina nor Africa.
i wouldnt mind namibia if we are talkin africa, but for all purpsoses i hope its europe free even though i would love to see latvia
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: Zack. on April 30, 2008, 10:31:58 PM
I have a feeling about Copenhagen and also non-Athenian Greece (perhaps Crete) in Europe and Mozambique or Seychelles in Africa.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: zacz on May 01, 2008, 12:25:45 AM
I also hope they visit Eastern Russia as it hasn't been visited yet and the scenery is meant to be stunning.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: gingerman28 on May 01, 2008, 10:37:13 AM
How about Algeria and then on to Malta or Gibralta or Crete. All new locations. Who knows :duno:
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: puddin on May 01, 2008, 11:14:20 AM
Maybe this is why or racers did not attract too much attention? Except our racers did the net thing.
Rapel no Elevador Lacerda em Salvador BA BR
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2008, 11:25:44 AM
Cool puddin!
But who are those folks?
Is rapelling a pay option at the elevator rountinely?
Translation needed please!
Face first **shudders**
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: puddin on May 01, 2008, 01:19:21 PM
Is rapelling a pay option at the elevator rountinely?
Translation needed please!
Toggle through this site (http://www.salvadordabahia.ba.gov.br/Template.asp?IdEntidade=3256&Nivel=0007000100230001)
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: apskip on May 01, 2008, 04:30:01 PM
I have no idea of whether AR13 has actually reached Melbourne, Australia, but I do have the grandparents and a cousin of my son-in-law that live there. I have put out an emergency request for assistance. We'll see what comes back.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: mswood on May 01, 2008, 04:59:01 PM
Apskip
Is it at last possible with available flights?
Because I would love them going to that area of the world.
When was the last time?
Oh wait, Season 9. I am sensing a theme.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: Zack. on May 01, 2008, 05:38:25 PM
Because I would love them going to that area of the world.
When was the last time?
Oh wait, Season 9. I am sensing a theme.
Ugh. So pretty soon there'll be like 3 legs without any bunching, leading to the elimination of two likeable teams and one team Michael will possibly root for?
What are the odds of them taking a ferry (or flying) down to Tasmania?
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: michael on May 01, 2008, 05:39:16 PM
Because I would love them going to that area of the world.
When was the last time?
Oh wait, Season 9. I am sensing a theme.
Ugh. So pretty soon there'll be like 3 legs without any bunching, leading to the elimination of two likeable teams and one team Michael will possibly root for?
What are the odds of them taking a ferry (or flying) down to Tasmania?
Don't worry, I'm not rooting for ANY team this season :groan:
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: apskip on May 01, 2008, 10:00:20 PM
mswood, I am going to interpret your question for my own purposes and answer yes. In the Timetables and flight Information thread I am about to place information on the flight connection on either side of the Transpacific flights so that the trip can be made from Salvador to Melbourne, Australia, which may or may not have happened.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: Mrs Shrek on May 02, 2008, 05:46:51 PM
Although it is feasible with the flight options that they went to Australia, I'm not sure that they did, unless it was nearly all based in the outback. A lot of Australians are TAR fans, and if the TWOP spoiler of tasks being seen in the middle of Melbourne was true, there probably would have been at least a few other sightings by now from some one else who had seen it too.... Dunno. jmo :duno:
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 02, 2008, 11:36:21 PM
I personally think that he was bluffing lol!!
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: apskip on May 03, 2008, 09:03:30 AM
I do not agree with Mrs. Shrek or with KiwiJay because Melbourne is the most logical stop on the entire globe, having been long overlooked by prior Amazing Races.
Assuming that they have been to Melbourne last week, I want to devote some attention to where might they have gone next. I think there are 5 prime possibilities:
Now, Canberra is suppopsed to be a dull place, the capital of Australia. The Philippines has a lot of neat places but is has been on the Amazing Race before. Bali has occasional flareups. Brunei is pretty small although very rich and opulent. That leaves the home of the Tasmanian devil(I actually saw one on a travel show recently), the island of Tasmania with its gorgeous national parks and its capital city of Hobart as my prime choice.
There are 10 places where I consider it unlikely that AR13 will go due to prior visits:
1. Japan 2. South Korea 3. Taiwan 4. Vietnam 5. Perth 6. Adelaide 7. Sydney 8. Brisbane 9. Cairns 10. Malaysia
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: KingCrimson88 on May 03, 2008, 09:59:49 AM
They've never been to Adelaide. In TAR2 they simply flew there en route to New Zealand.
If they visit Australia again, Adelaide seems like the most logical place to go to after Melbourne.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: apskip on May 03, 2008, 12:14:07 PM
I accept that as a valid point. I had Adelaide in my head from AR2, but it was just the airport transfer point from the truck convoy from Cooper Pedy to get to NewZealand.
Title: Re: Speculation
Post by: Mrs Shrek on May 03, 2008, 04:39:54 PM
I do not agree with Mrs. Shrek or with KiwiJay because Melbourne is the most logical stop on the entire globe, having been long overlooked by prior Amazing Races.
It could just be professional jealousy that Phil didn't bring them over the ditch to Kiwi-land, :lol: but when I heard that they were supposedly spotted doing a task in Melbourne, I thought :yess: this should be easish to confirm - busy location, English speaking country, lots of TAR fans, maybe a few tourists wandering around with cameras..... I have been doing loads of searches for any traces of another mention of sightings in Melbourne (granted I'm not an expert searcher so I could have missed something) and have found nothing. No more detail has come from the original spoiler either, and the poster did add a disclaimer that his mate could have been pulling his leg, which is why I am a doubter at the moment.... :duno:
I do agree that if they did a really quick splash and dash in Melbourne, and then headed off somewhere like Tasmania, there would be more chance of keeping things quiet, so I'm not ruling Australia out totally yet.....let the search continue!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: gingerman28 on May 08, 2008, 12:58:23 PM
We had six teams leaving through Bangkok airport to Delhi. That assume that the pit stop in Siem Reap was a non-elimination stop.
Probably an elimination stop in Delhi, so that leaves five teams on the way to Dubai.
Two more elimination stops, and probably two more non-elimination stops.
So we have four more locations before the return to USofA
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: georgiapeach on May 08, 2008, 01:08:38 PM
We didn't have non-elims last time at all, did we?? --BVM said they had done away with them? So don't know about this time, but we can't count on non-elims....
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: michael on May 08, 2008, 01:10:48 PM
We didn't have non-elims last time at all, did we?? --BVM said they had done away with them? So don't know about this time, but we can't count on non-elims....
we had two non-elims last season one with kynt and vyxsin and another with rachel and TK
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: georgiapeach on May 08, 2008, 01:12:56 PM
Thanks Michael...I wasn't sure! :hugs:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: apskip on May 08, 2008, 01:21:02 PM
We didn't have non-elims last time at all, did we?? --BVM said they had done away with them? So don't know about this time, but we can't count on non-elims....
No we can't, but I think that there will be multiple TBCs or non-elims. The reason is because if they don't then AR13 with 11 teams will have only 8 episodes. That's a bit few.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: georgiapeach on May 08, 2008, 01:32:50 PM
ooohhhh! Then let's have LOTS!! I want a nice long season please! :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: mswood on May 08, 2008, 02:25:03 PM
Yeah damnit I want both. Still pissed about 11 episodes. I would hope with the ratings success last season they would go back to 13 episodes.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 08, 2008, 03:23:10 PM
I heard somewhere at TAR 13 Wiki that they were going back to 13 legs but that is probably speculation
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: Kogs on May 08, 2008, 03:30:28 PM
We didn't have non-elims last time at all, did we?? --BVM said they had done away with them? So don't know about this time, but we can't count on non-elims....
I believe that they had 3 non-elimination legs, but no taking of money, or backpacks, and no begging. The non-eliminated team just had to win the next leg.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: michael on May 08, 2008, 08:57:28 PM
We didn't have non-elims last time at all, did we?? --BVM said they had done away with them? So don't know about this time, but we can't count on non-elims....
I believe that they had 3 non-elimination legs, but no taking of money, or backpacks, and no begging. The non-eliminated team just had to win the next leg.
they had two
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: mswood on May 08, 2008, 08:59:10 PM
They had two non elimination legs in season 12. And we had a new penalty (that was given in the next episode, sorry Michael couldn't resist). The speed Bump where the teams had an additional task that only they had to do. Those teams were Kynt & Vyxin in India (after last place in Italy), and Tk & Rachel in Taiwan (after last place in Japan).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: puddin on May 08, 2008, 09:00:51 PM
ep1 Ari & Stella ep2 Kate & Pat ep3 the sisters ep4 Lorena & Jason ep5 Shana & Jennifer ep6 the siblings ep7 Kynt & Vyxsin NEL/Speed bump penalty for ep 8 ep8 Kynt & Vyxsin ep9 TK & Rachel NEL/ Speed bump penalty for ep 10 ep10 Jen & Nate ep 11 final 3 winners/TK & Rachel
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: mswood on May 08, 2008, 09:25:50 PM
One or two more locations only before the end? ???
They have been racing 16 days...
That really depends on if an 11 episode season or 13. in a 13 episode season you could still have 5 to 6 episodes left, after the 6th team is eliminated.
Season 1: 6 Season 2: 6 Season 3: 6 Season 4: 6 Season 5: 6 Season 6: 4 Season 7: 6 Season 9: 6 Season 10: 5 Season 11: 5
Now in 12 with 11 episode, Season 12: 5
So if India would be the first leg down to 5 teams, we have anywhere between 4 and 5 episodes / locations. Waiting to discover it the other location was just a flight hub or a actual destination.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: apskip on May 08, 2008, 09:43:40 PM
I think we are going to see a "normal" 28 day race schedule for AR13, not the compressed 21 day schedule for AR12. That means that we have 12 more days to go if I am correct.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: apskip on May 08, 2008, 09:55:15 PM
We had six teams leaving through Bangkok airport to Delhi. That assume that the pit stop in Siem Reap was a non-elimination stop.
Probably an elimination stop in Delhi, so that leaves five teams on the way to Dubai.
Two more elimination stops, and probably two more non-elimination stops.
So we have four more locations before the return to USofA
Here is where the concept of non-elim in Siem Reap was first made public. I just ignored it then because I don't agree, which is probably the best approach now unless we obtain specific supporting information.
Title: Re: Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: TARAsia Fan on May 08, 2008, 11:24:51 PM
I heard somewhere at TAR 13 Wiki that they were going back to 13 legs but that is probably speculation
If this were the case, I would love this. Still needs to be confirmed, though.
Title: Re: Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 09, 2008, 01:10:11 AM
I cannot give you a link sorry because cannot find it but that is what I saw, no I didnt hallucinate and yes it is probably just speculation so please dont get your hopes up
Title: Re: Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on May 09, 2008, 02:40:49 AM
I cannot give you a link sorry because cannot find it but that is what I saw, no I didnt hallucinate and yes it is probably just speculation so please dont get your hopes up
I found a link on the Amazing Race Fan Wiki here (http://amazingrace.wetpaint.com/thread/1135334/suggested+key+cities+to+visit) but it looks more like just one person's random speculation rather than a fact, especially when you read their country predictions based on what we know now :res:
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TAR 13 will be back as standard 13 legs with 2 new twists (U-Turn, Speed Bump), as well 11 contestants with 8 elimination points. Double leg will no longer available on next season.
Title: Re: Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on May 09, 2008, 07:03:34 AM
Uh-0h....if this is who I think it is it is totally safe to disregard the info... :groan:
Title: Re: Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Neobie on May 09, 2008, 07:30:16 AM
Claude! :funny:
(No Beirut?)
Title: Re: Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on May 09, 2008, 11:08:12 AM
:funny: I just spit my drink out reading this someone owes me a new keyboard!!!
:spitcoffee: :colors
Title: Re: Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on May 09, 2008, 11:21:04 AM
You can ask AT about that one! :rotf:
Title: Re: Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: gingerman28 on May 09, 2008, 11:38:02 AM
:funny: I just spit my drink out reading this someone owes me a new keyboard!!!
:spitcoffee: :colors
That's not the first time, Puddin, dear. When you need a new keyboard a drink just "happens to spill" on the old one :kuss:
Title: Re: Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: apskip on May 09, 2008, 01:00:04 PM
Well, the statement by Claude the Apprentice Fan at SUCKS (and typically highly criticized there) was made on Jan. 15, 2008 that there would be 13 legs, etc. It was pure fantasy and Claude is known for that. GeorgiaPeach's suggestion to totally ignore anything from Claude is a good one.
Title: Re: Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: apskip on May 10, 2008, 10:22:03 AM
I have drawn a line on the map of South America from Salvador to Santsa Cruz. Guess what's on it?
Brasilia is! However, I doubt that AR13 really would go there because that means that Elisee doganieri and Bertram van Munster had to go there and they are too smart for that.
Instead, about 200 miles off that line to the south lies Iguassu Falls, one of the most interesting places to visit on the globe(it is on top of my TO SEE list). I believe that would have been an excellent place for AR13 to make a stop.
The flights to get to IGU (the Brazilian side airport) are as follows: 5/24 SSA GRU JJ3859 1055 1315 OR JJ3450 0250 0525 GRU IGU JJ3559 1420 1550 JJ3691 0740 0910
The flights to get from Iguassu to Sanata Cruz turn out to be more difficult but doable:
IGR (Argentinian airport) AEP(Buenos Aires Newberry) AR2743 0935 1125, followed by a transfer to the international airport EZE EZE VVI AR5624 1600 1745
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: puddin on May 10, 2008, 05:08:34 PM
Nevermind!! False alarm!!! What I think the blogger did was watch TARA1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazing_Race_Asia_1) (teams had to climb the steepest slope in Ski Dubai while ) on Star World (http://www.startv.com/feed/80d2cfa53741be232ced72165733a46d)
Is this real? (http://erykahyo.blogspot.com/2008/05/hello-readers-i-caught-amazing-race.html) Theres some pictures as well but who knows of what for sure? Dubai is what caught my attention seeing as we have the report of them at Dubai airport May 7th or 8th? (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg300696.html#msg300696) soooooooooooo
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 9:30 PM Hello readers! I caught Amazing Race yesterday on Star World and there are remainings of 4 team. Enjoyed watching the show and I feel like joining it when i'm legal to join. Even though it may be tiring touring all over the country or that specific country, you'd still have the opportunity to see the country. Sooo yesterday, the contestants were touring at Dubai, masyaallah, really a GREAT place that I wanna go and why not, honeymoon? Hahaha, just kidding. If I were to have the opportunity, I'd want to migrate there. Beautiful place.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: Chateau d If on May 10, 2008, 06:10:47 PM
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...and there are remainings of 4 team.
If this is true then one more team may have been eliminated at the end of that leg (yesterday).
That would mean they will do some kind of quick stop in Europe and bounce on to the finish line as early as tomorrow :ascared
Is this record time or what? I would bet the count is off and the tourist missed some team. I hope they have a real leg somewhere in Europe. :knuckles:
Okay, I did not catch the "Star World" bit. Didn't know what it meant. Ignored it. That's what led to this misconception.
Sorry!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: puddin on May 10, 2008, 06:25:29 PM
TAR12 was 21 days sooooooooo? we are on day 19 wahhhhhhhh!!
Title: Re: Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: mswood on May 10, 2008, 10:59:53 PM
If on the 10th teams were down to just 4 teams (and let us assume that it was the first leg with just four teams), and we are on day what ? (19). Then what are we typically left with leg wise and day wise.
Legs after teams are first down to 4 teams. 1. 3 additional legs (Leg 10 first down to 4). 2. 3 additional legs (same) 3. 2 legs (leg 11 first down to 4) 4. 3 legs (leg 10 first down to 4) 5. 2 legs (leg 11 first down to 4) 6. 2 legs (episode 11 first down to 4) 7. 3 legs (episode 10 first down to 4) 9. 3 legs (episode 10 first down to 4) 10. 2 legs (episode 11 first down to 4) 11. 3 legs (leg 11 first down to 4) 12. 2 legs (leg 9 first down to 4)
So we can assume a minimum of 2 additional legs to a maximum of 3 legs, based on previous seasons.
So unless we get some serious flights and flight delays, or some extended 24 hour or 36 hour pit Stops.
Typically each leg (with Pit Stop and travel time averages to 2 days). So we can assume under fairly normal situations that teams should be back in the US finished on or around the 14th-17th (giving an extra day for one extended Pit Stop or a longer flight schedule.
Putting the time teams were racing between 23-27 days.
Any ideas on the time teams usually take on the typical 13 episode season? I know All Stars was 27 days, while season 10 was 28 days.
Title: Re: Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: apskip on May 11, 2008, 09:56:17 AM
Recent history excluding AR12, which was an anomaly, is about 27 days according to my memory.
Title: Re: Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: swimmer12 on May 11, 2008, 10:38:01 AM
do we know if we are back to using the yield....or are we still using the u-turn?
Title: Re: Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: mswood on May 11, 2008, 12:11:01 PM
^ There is a report in the actual spoiler thread about a sighting of a U-turn sign. I would guess that the Yield, like the Intersection is history.
Title: Re: Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on May 11, 2008, 12:18:29 PM
Updates on our life in Bolivia (La Paz ) (http://truchalibre.blogspot.com/2008/05/winter-is-coming-again.html)
ok, fun tidbits now! The day we took possession of our apartment we were crossing the park in front of our building and noticed a lot of people and some really weird all wood bicycles. I noticed a lot of the people around them looked like the rich gortex-wearing tourist we see and/or the Discovery Channel crew that worked with us last year. Then I noticed it: a yellow signed that said "U-Turn" with a yellow and red flag on it... It was The Amazing Race!!!!! (It's a fun reality show, google it if you don't know what it is) I was sooooooo excited! I was torn between staying there until contestants showed up or going into our apartment. Given Wes' lack of enthusiasm I decided to go back home. But hey, next Amazing Race they will be showing our building and our park!
Title: Re: Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on May 12, 2008, 03:33:44 PM
I'm not putting this in spoilers, cos I have been able to find NO collaborating info apart from a similar post with nothing to back it up at jokersupdates. Do others also believe it's just idle speculation, or is there a very remote possibility that there could be something to it?
Found here (http://community.qvc.com/topic/That39s-Entertainment/Good-News-Tar/5700025724?cm_ven=RSS_FEED&cm_cat=COMMUNITY&cm_pla=FORUM&cm_ite=That%26%2339s+Entertainment!)
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There are numerous reports that The Amazing Race is now filming season 13....*snip*....(Reportedly they were seen filming in Kazakhastan recently.)
Title: Re: Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on May 12, 2008, 04:00:28 PM
I'm not putting this in spoilers, cos I have been able to find NO collaborating info apart from a similar post with nothing to back it up at jokersupdates. Do others also believe it's just idle speculation, or is there a very remote possibility that there could be something to it?
Found here (http://community.qvc.com/topic/That39s-Entertainment/Good-News-Tar/5700025724?cm_ven=RSS_FEED&cm_cat=COMMUNITY&cm_pla=FORUM&cm_ite=That%26%2339s+Entertainment!)
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There are numerous reports that The Amazing Race is now filming season 13....*snip*....(Reportedly they were seen filming in Kazakhastan recently.)
Especially if ithe idea came from here ,, TAR Wiki (http://amazingrace.wetpaint.com/thread/1089896/suggested+key+cities+to+visit+2/post/8492431/suggested+key+cities+to+visit+2?t=anon) but who knows?
or Holiday in Uzbekistan 9 - 17 June 2007 28 Apr 2008 People left the plane like they all are part of the 'Amazing Race'. Anyway we finally got through passport and luggage check got picked up and transported to the hotel that was a very pleasant surprise. It had a lovely garden that the ... Bogar Harrisons' move to Kazakhstan - http://bogarharrison.spaces.live.com/
Title: Re: Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: sayurkangkung on May 13, 2008, 02:18:24 AM
Uhmm, i feel a lil bit sad if ppl still thinking negative about Indonesia, i mean, Indonesia isn't an unsafe or a flareups place to visit, so i rly hope that TAR 14 will visit Indonesia as well.... :tup:
Title: Re: Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Chateau d If on May 13, 2008, 11:34:54 AM
Detour: By Land or By Water
In "By Land" teams must deliver handmade baskets used for transporting pigs.
In "By Water" teams must choose a boat and navigate through the local Floating Village on Tonle Sap Lake in order to locate items from a list of ingredients.
omg if the race came through Toronto I am going to die for two reasons: 1) I COULD HAVE SEEN THE TEAMS 2) MY BROTHER WORKS AT THE AIRPORT.
well go ask him!!!!!!!
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Post by: michael on May 13, 2008, 04:05:33 PM
I just did -- he wasn't working yesterday or today :'( :'( :'( he works customs too so I don't know if that means he would have saw them or not even if he was working
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Post by: walkingpneumonia on May 13, 2008, 07:35:53 PM
While I was wandering aimlessly, a whole crew of contestants for the Amazing Race passed me by! They had on matching denim shirts and yellow arm bands and looked pretty lost themselves. I don’t watch the show much anymore, but I might tune in just to see how Vegas treats ‘em.
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Post by: puddin on May 13, 2008, 07:47:50 PM
While I was wandering aimlessly, a whole crew of contestants for the Amazing Race passed me by! They had on matching denim shirts and yellow arm bands and looked pretty lost themselves. I don’t watch the show much anymore, but I might tune in just to see how Vegas treats ‘em.
There are pictures on flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/10887299@N00/2481643424/) as well, not our racers.
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Post by: walkingpneumonia on May 13, 2008, 07:53:34 PM
blahblah Maybe CBS will reward us for not revealing the final location - how about casting us on the Amazing Race: Fans vs Favourites! blahblah
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: michael on May 13, 2008, 07:54:04 PM
So do you think the 2 pair of racers spotted are legit and were racing for #2 and #3 spot?
I think the decoys were running around downtown and the real final 3 were at Cascade Locks, it makes the most sense...as in the decoys were a distraction.
Title: Re: Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: apskip on May 15, 2008, 07:51:35 AM
How about this for a wild hypothesis:
Could there have been only a Final 2? This would have meant one more elimination point and only one TBC/non-elim.
In thinking about that TBC, I have been fixated on a REST DAY on the western side of the Pacific and I identified Auckland as where it was. However, if the 20 hour stop in Auckland was actually tasks, the only way that could happen would be if it were a TBC; there would not have been time for tasks and a pit stop.
By the way, it looks to me that the numbering 13-1111 confirms the fact that there were 11 episodes in AR13.
Title: Re: Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on May 15, 2008, 01:39:12 PM
I have never posted before but have loved TAR since season 1.
Just talked with a co-worker whose husband was hiking in the Columbia Gorge at about 2:30 pm and saw racing teams, vehicles and a helicopter in the vicinity of Bridge of the Gods. He wasn't sure what it was until she called him about the Portland rumor. Could it be the race?
I work in Cascade Locks, and there is a zip line in place right now from the Bridge of the Gods to Thunder Island. I don't know when they put it up, but it sure wasn't there yesterday! :yess: I got there in time to see the camera crews packing up and loading equipment into vans, but a fellow teacher saw two couples ride the zip line down to the island. This was between 2:30-3:30 this afternoon. There were helicopters circling the site, three camera crews at and around the bridge, and they apparently paid the owners of the Charburger restaurant to close for the day so they could secure the parking lot which overlooks the river and the zip line. There were six yellow cabs at the parking lot where the access to the island is, along with more camera crews, and the officer that I talked to said they always stage it so that people don't know for sure how many couples are left. Does that sound reasonable? The other teacher talked to one of the cab drivers, who said he picked up two people at the airport from an overseas flight, took them to Newberg where they "ran around and looked for a clue", then drove them to Cascade Locks. For some reason someone asked him if this was Fear Factor, but he said it was more like a scavenger hunt. Apparently he has not actually seen Amazing Race himself, so didn't know anything about the usual process. My speculation is Timberline Lodge for the finish?
I saw TAR teams today as well at PDX. I drive the international buses at PDX but not today. However, I was driving the terminal parking lot buses today and saw a camera man /sound man running after a very tan blond woman in a florescent green sporty outfit, backpack and one of those TAR clue cards (?) in her hand just about the time the Germany flight would have landed. They were getting a taxi here at PDX. I had to keep my eyes on my driving but a person in the bus said they were from The Amazing Race.
My next loop around (20 minutes later), I arrived at the terminal and saw more teams grabbing a taxi. Fortunately I was driving the Employee lot bus and one of the supervisors (who got on camera & had to sign a TAR release for TV) confirmed that the teams in fact were from TAR and got off the Lufthansa flight from Germany to Portland OR. They were headed up to Washington state. He also said there were only 4 teams and perhaps the other two teams went up via Seattle first - but that of course is purely speculation.
again, now with Pittock Mansion (this is for my own sanity :lol:)
Cascade Locks Charburger to Pittock Mansion
3531 SE 2nd Ave, Camas, WA 98607 to 3229 NW Pittock Dr, Portland, OR
Newberg is not that far from Portland.... but it's in the opposite direction from the Columbia Gorge (and airport). hmmmmm...... :angel: (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/NewbergPortland.jpg)
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: RichInOz on May 19, 2008, 12:59:37 AM
If the Dubai sighting is correct this could mean two things... They may end up going to another location in the UAE like Sharjah or Abu Dahbi (possibly by car). Otherwise Dubai us a large hub for Emirates airlines.
The only other "safe" Middle East destinations that don't have heavy visa restrictions are Qatar, Bahrain, and possibly Jordan.
I doubt that Colombo would be a destination as there has been recent violence. But there may be a chance of the Seychelles which is close to Sri Lanka and also easy to get to from Dubai.
Europe was done in TAR12 so most likely they will only be one or two desinations this time around. Emirates does fly to several African nations too but the only one they really havent done yet is Uganda.
Don't rule out Kazakhstan too! There is a growing number of tourists to the nation, thanks to Borat!! Also looks really nice despite the jokes.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on May 19, 2008, 01:38:16 AM
Just passing through thought I'd say welcome to the forum RichInOz :welcome:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: sayurkangkung on May 19, 2008, 05:25:37 AM
I agree with Rich, there were some clashes there, or maybe they just passed by from Colombo to another country, im just guessing bcoz if u're live in Indonesia u'll pass through Sri Lanka if u wanna go to middle eastern countries (such as Saudi Arabia, UAE, Jordan etc)
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: KingCrimson88 on May 19, 2008, 02:43:35 PM
I have doubts about this Sri Lanka stuff. They rarely re-use small countries like that on TAR.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: password on May 19, 2008, 03:11:41 PM
I now here the countries are Kazakastan( Astana or Alamty) and Frankfurt (Germany) and another leg in Germany (cologne). source:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: password on May 19, 2008, 03:14:38 PM
it also states that Georgia, Armenia, the Baltic States can be a possibilty also it states to get to portland the teams went through Toronto,Canada or Vancouver, Canada
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Post by: puddin on May 19, 2008, 03:17:31 PM
it also states that Georgia, Armenia, the Baltic States can be a possibilty also it states to get to portland the teams went through Toronto,Canada or Vancouver, Canada
Oh thats us password, most is speculation! :D
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 19, 2008, 03:21:02 PM
Oh password, ALL of that is speculation only...not confirmed info. It is places we are talking about as possibilities only, not any "for sures". That's us here making guesses.
Sorry... :'(
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on May 22, 2008, 11:08:28 AM
Mrs Shrek sent me this ........ Then I was searching Flickr and saw this ......(Taken on May 20, 2008 at 12.49pm PDT) The Flickr picture (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ponyboy101/2513805298/) and blog dates are a match but gosh it can't be us! So a fwiw ...
I don't know where to put this. It can't be "our race" because the dates are wrong, and Bangkok was just a transit point. Could TAR Asia have started filming yet? "I saw the Amazing race being filmed, people eating bugs and throwing them up in the middle of the street" travelblog (http://www.travelblog.org/Asia/Thailand/South/Ko-Samui/blog-278911.html)
"Amazing Race roadblock on Khao San - Bangkok"
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on May 22, 2008, 11:53:30 AM
Is that standard "race" equipment? Whos race is it? :lol:
From Jasons pics (http://bp0.blogger.com/_t0PBWf1GuI0/SCAHVgMcB6I/AAAAAAAABQk/El9SXvegLlg/s1600-h/IMG_3269.JPG)
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on May 22, 2008, 12:52:31 PM
Strange indeed...dates cannot be TAR 13 but I suppose any local crews hired could have similar equiptment.
Is it possible that TARA 3 has started already? I wasn't thinking til June but oh my...
Have asked for more info :angel:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on May 22, 2008, 01:54:54 PM
Could it be TAR Israel? They are suppose to run around Asia? No idea when they are set to kick off? Then TARA3, June filming right?
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on May 22, 2008, 02:39:02 PM
I don't even think TAR Israel is casting yet....maybe kogs knows?
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Kogs on May 22, 2008, 03:26:24 PM
I don't even think TAR Israel is casting yet....maybe kogs knows?
dont think so. I called my friends neighbor over there who is in the know with that show, and things are just getting ready for that. I need to work on my hebrew. :lol:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Mrs Shrek on May 23, 2008, 02:58:41 PM
Strange indeed...dates cannot be TAR 13 but I suppose any local crews hired could have similar equiptment.
Is it possible that TARA 3 has started already? I wasn't thinking til June but oh my...
Just found another TAR reference in a blog that is so vague I probably wouldn't have bothered posting it except for the recent sighting in Bangkok...fwiw
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Friday, May 23, 2008 We finally arrived in UB(Ulaan Bator) after passing the amazing race in Beijing.
Link (http://lotusfansg.blogspot.com/2008/05/finally-arrived-ulaan-bator.html)
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on May 23, 2008, 05:45:10 PM
I'm starting to think this is TAR3 MrsShrek?? We should bring them over to the TARA thread for spec.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Zack. on June 09, 2008, 11:16:30 PM
So, with the knowledge that a) there are three legs in South America, and b) there are 9 numbers for the FF in New Zealand (leg 4) and under the assumption that there are 11 teams as usual, then there must be an NEL in South America, otherwise there would only be 8 teams (and 8 numbers needed) in Auckland. Perhaps they pull a TARAsia and have the first leg be an NEL?
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: apskip on June 10, 2008, 09:47:25 AM
zachattack308, I am with you on your hypothesis that there must be a NEL in South America. There should be 2 NELs/TBCs somewhere during the race and South America is a logical place.
Howver, please consider that the numbers board for the FAST FORWARD IN PROGRESS could just be a standard set of hooks and numbers. With 3 rows and 3 columns, that gives you 9 numbers whether you need 9 or not. What does WRP care if not all the numbers are possible at that point in the race? As I have pointed out elsewhere I have never seen more than 3 actually used for Fast Forwards in other Amazing Races.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on June 11, 2008, 04:40:42 PM
Why can't I find this "former" contestant? anyone..?
Film/Television Sean Rudolph v. Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority. Former “Amazing Race” contestant claims his employer reneged on a promise to give him time off to compete in the show, then fired him for his one-month absence. http://www.entlawdigest.com/(S(dhuxtwaubezghnqnw1jis5jl))/LawReport/Preview.aspx
eta~
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Slowhatch on June 11, 2008, 05:05:48 PM
Sa'eed's last name was Rudolph (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg300644.html#msg300644). He might still be "Sean" on the payroll books.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on June 11, 2008, 05:11:19 PM
Well damn Slowhatch :tup: :jam: thank you!
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Kogs on June 11, 2008, 06:25:15 PM
Sa'eed's last name was Rudolph (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg300644.html#msg300644). He might still be "Sean" on the payroll books.
yup thats him. there muslim names are not there legal names.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: TheScandinavianAmazingR. on June 26, 2008, 12:12:54 PM
I have read on this site, that a all female team makes it to the end. Anybody know if that is true or not? If it is i really hopes that they win, the amazing race needs that a all female team wins ( they only team who had a great chance, was my favorite all female team Dustin and Kandice from seasons 10 and the all star edition).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: north09 on June 26, 2008, 12:49:33 PM
True, we do need an all-female team to win. However, that site is false. We don't evern have any names, and only 2 speculated placings: The black couple eliminated in Cambodia and the couple at the airpor counter in the F3.The site may have thought that an all-female team won by speculating from one being spoted racing in Portland, but they are decoys.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Hooky on June 27, 2008, 10:10:50 PM
zachattack308, I am with you on your hypothesis that there must be a NEL in South America. There should be 2 NELs/TBCs somewhere during the race and South America is a logical place.
Howver, please consider that the numbers board for the FAST FORWARD IN PROGRESS could just be a standard set of hooks and numbers. With 3 rows and 3 columns, that gives you 9 numbers whether you need 9 or not. What does WRP care if not all the numbers are possible at that point in the race? As I have pointed out elsewhere I have never seen more than 3 actually used for Fast Forwards in other Amazing Races.
Hi, I'm new. I have enjoyed reading the spoilers and I have a comment.
That board of numbers doesn't look like it is even made by the Amazing Race staff. After all, in Season 7, they had a board of numbers at the cooling tower Fast Forward and the tags had Fast Forward icons on them.
But if it is the real thing then I agree with you about the standard set thing, because the Season 7 number board did have 9 tags even though there were only 7 teams left.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Dragoondaniel on June 28, 2008, 01:16:12 AM
Would this route be generally correct based on the information that's been gathered?
Leg 1 - Los Angeles, USA to Sao Paulo, Brazil to Salvador, Brazil Leg 2 - Salvador, Brazil to Fortaleza, Brazil Leg 3 - Brazil to La Paz, Bolivia Leg 4 - Bolivia to Auckland, New Zealand Leg 5 - New Zealand to Siem Reap, Cambodia Leg 6 - Cambodia to Delhi, India Leg 7 - India to ?? Leg 8 - ?? Leg 9 - ?? Leg 10 - ?? to Moscow, Russia Leg 11 - Russia to ???(possibly) to Oregon, USA
If that's so... the locations have been disappointing. There's too much Brazil and India was JUST visited. And only 2 new countries (Cambodia & Bolivia) are visited out of the 7 confirmed countries we have so far. There are maximum another 3 more countries that can be visited (provided no double-legs other than Brazil) and here's hoping that AT LEAST 2 of them are new countries and interesting.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: apskip on June 28, 2008, 07:06:23 AM
Would this route be generally correct based on the information that's been gathered?
Leg 1 - Los Angeles, USA to Sao Paulo, Brazil to Salvador, Brazil Leg 2 - Salvador, Brazil to Fortaleza, Brazil Leg 3 - Brazil to La Paz, Bolivia Leg 4 - Bolivia to Auckland, New Zealand Leg 5 - New Zealand to Siem Reap, Cambodia Leg 6 - Cambodia to Delhi, India Leg 7 - India to ?? Leg 8 - ?? Leg 9 - ?? Leg 10 - ?? to Moscow, Russia Leg 11 - Russia to ???(possibly) to Oregon, USA
If that's so... the locations have been disappointing. There's too much Brazil and India was JUST visited. And only 2 new countries (Cambodia & Bolivia) are visited out of the 7 confirmed countries we have so far. There are maximum another 3 more countries that can be visited (provided no double-legs other than Brazil) and here's hoping that AT LEAST 2 of them are new countries and interesting.
That is a pretty good summary. The one thing that is new is that with the Moscow pitstop start time clarified as the afternoon of May 11, then Moscow is the 9th leg and not the 10th. The 10th is somewhere in Europe To Be Determined. Also the recent history of the Amazing Race indicates that WRP likes to go back to countries used before and only allows a small number of new countries each race.
My personal believe is that there cannot be too much Brazil. We have previously had a Sao Paul leg and a Rio de Janeiro leg. Brazil is a huge country with lots of places to visit. Seeing 2 of them is by no means too much. Chile got 4 legs in AR11, so you should be pleased that Brazil gets only 2. India is always a fascinating culture shock. I'd love to see move India. Old Delhi is being visited for practically the first time(there was a minor visit in a leg of AR1).
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on June 28, 2008, 10:15:53 AM
That is a pretty good summary. The one thing that is new is that with the Moscow pitstop start time clarified as the afternoon of May 11, then Moscow is the 9th leg and not the 10th. The 10th is somewhere in Europe To Be Determined. Also the recent history of the Amazing Race indicates that WRP likes to go back to countries used before and only allows a small number of new countries each race.
My personal believe is that there cannot be too much Brazil. We have previously had a Sao Paul leg and a Rio de Janeiro leg. Brazil is a huge country with lots of places to visit. Seeing 2 of them is by no means too much. Chile got 4 legs in AR11, so you should be pleased that Brazil gets only 2. India is always a fascinating culture shock. I'd love to see move India. Old Delhi is being visited for practically the first time(there was a minor visit in a leg of AR1).
The Moscow pit stop was clarified as the afternoon of May 11? I thought it was still up for grabs as May 13th is not out of the question? And you meant New Delhi not Old Delhi right?
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Chateau d If on June 28, 2008, 11:41:05 AM
After the British Raj took control of India during the 19th century, Calcutta became the capital until George V announced in 1911 that it was to move back to Delhi. A new capital city, New Delhi, was built during the 1920s. When India gained independence from British rule in 1947, New Delhi was declared its capital and seat of government. As such, New Delhi houses important offices of the federal government, including the Parliament of India.
The distinction is lost in urban(e) academics. ;)
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: apskip on June 28, 2008, 02:18:45 PM
I meant Old Delhi, which is what I said. For those who don't appreciate the relationship of Old Delhi to New Delhi, this may help a little bit:
Delhi, or Old Delhi (1991 pop. 7,175,000), on the Yamuna River, adjoins New Delhi in the east central part of the state and is a commercial center.
They are separate cities, with New Delhi having its territory more or less around Old Delhi. The airport and the Indian government are both in New Delhi.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on June 28, 2008, 09:24:47 PM
I'll cast my vote for TAR in Moscow on the mat on 5/13....
And this distinction about New vs Old Delhi is kinda interesting...
In practical terms, I don't remember there being much distinction made when I was there..
It was just Delhi mostly although you would get it is in New Delhi for official govt places...and I remember Old Delhi being referred to as mostly within the walls--ie near the Red Fort.
ANd if where Matt went is any indication of where our tasks are, it is all moot anyway because they were well outside both for a lot of the time! :lol:
See Neobie's pretty Map! (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013%20MAPS/TAR13MapDelhiWhereMattwentfromNeobi.jpg)
But do let me know if any of the MAPS! have it wrong!
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: woden on July 03, 2008, 10:37:33 AM
apskip, or some other flight guru -- what are the odds of the Dubai flight connecting into Larnaca (Cyprus)? Just a hunch...
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: apskip on July 03, 2008, 11:28:20 AM
Weeks ago I identified Larnaca as one of a list of about 40-odd places where AR13 teams could fly if they were transiting in Dubai. So let's say 2% probability that it's Larnaca.
However, mwooden, you need to know that Dubai may have been illusory. There is no hard evidence that teams were there. The one report that we had of them at the airport could be bogus. So the real probability of Larnaca is maybe in the 1% range.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: sunnyca on July 03, 2008, 12:19:29 PM
old vs new delhi: on the map above, old delhi is pretty small, starting north of connaught place. roughly speaking it's bounded by connaught place (south), daryaganj (east), kashmiri gate (north) and karol bagh (west) (these "gates" were part of the old city wall). and yes, TAR1 went to the red fort briefly, which is in old delhi - as are most of matt's speculated route in TAR13.
and yes, i agree about india being such a large and diverse place (i guess brazil too but haven't been there) that TAR has barely scratched the surface - would love to see them go to Ladakh (high in the Himalayas close to Tibet), Rishikesh or Naini Tal area in the UP Himalayas, Mt Abu in Rajasthan, Madurai or Trichy (the Fort temple) in Tamil Nadu (south) etc - the north and south are like 2 different countries - but more on this in the Wishlist sometime..
And how about Nepal or Bhutan? TAR's never been in either, I think..
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: apskip on July 03, 2008, 12:22:35 PM
I believe that in future Amazing Races we will see Bangalore and Goa before going to any of the places you mentioned, sunnyca. WRP likes international airports close by.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: sunnyca on July 03, 2008, 12:26:48 PM
correction - a lot of Matt's speculated route is in new delhi except nai sadak - but that nagia park/malka ganj are is pretty much like old delhi too.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: sunnyca on July 03, 2008, 12:31:44 PM
well, yes, i see your point - but they did do that long overnight train ride from lucknow to jodhpur (12), not to mention the beijing to mongolia by bus/train (TAR10), and there was a looong bus ride in argentina one time too..
I believe that in future Amazing Races we will see Bangalore and Goa before going to any of the places you mentioned, sunnyca. WRP likes international airports close by.
well, yes, i see your point - but they did do that long overnight train ride from lucknow to jodhpur (12), not to mention the beijing to mongolia by bus/train (TAR10), and there was a looong bus ride in argentina one time too..
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on July 03, 2008, 01:03:23 PM
Wishlists are fun!
TAR Wishlist - locations, twists, teams, etc. (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15213.0.html) ;)
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: woden on July 03, 2008, 01:05:16 PM
Thanks, apskip
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Zack. on July 04, 2008, 10:11:50 PM
Would it be possible to have a second leg in India? Either a leg in New Dehli (the contrast between Old and New would be a good way to have two legs in India without much work I don't think) or have teams take an uncomfortable train ride to somewhere else (just like in the old days),
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on July 04, 2008, 11:05:45 PM
Would it be possible to have a second leg in India? Either a leg in New Dehli (the contrast between Old and New would be a good way to have two legs in India without much work I don't think) or have teams take an uncomfortable train ride to somewhere else (just like in the old days),
Oh I miss the trains zach. I don't know about trains but I'm leaning towards 2 legs in what I'll safely call India :lol:.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on July 04, 2008, 11:07:35 PM
After Delhi we lose them, so anything goes until Moscow!
But since new countries have been sparse so far--I REALLY hope they went somewhere new!
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on July 04, 2008, 11:12:21 PM
Keeping my fingers crossed for Kazakhstan, hey its speculation so :sucks
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on July 04, 2008, 11:17:40 PM
That's my top choice too!
(At least it will be once I learn how to spell it! :lol3:)
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: mswood on July 04, 2008, 11:53:32 PM
Yeah, thanks you two. I am so looking forward to having to spell that out once the season starts. :pull
But in all honesty would be a nice choice for a new location.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Slowhatch on July 05, 2008, 01:23:28 AM
Normally I'd throw a few chips on the table for Bhutan: it's always been on the wish list of Phil/BVM, and DEL is one of the few gateway airports into PBH. But Druk Air, the national monopoly, was having difficulties during race time: how many airlines take out a webpage for an apology (http://www.drukair.com.bt/apology.htm)? :js: :plane:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: apskip on July 05, 2008, 09:11:01 AM
zachattack308, The answer is yes there could be 2 legs in India. I rate the probability of that as low, however. There are 2 reasons, a WRP desire to feature a few new countries/cities each race and the fact that any second leg would have to leave Delhi and return there or go to a large enough airport (such as to Agra in 3 hours or to Jaipur in as little as 4 hours from Delhi by train) that teams could fly back to Delhi before proceding. In short, it probabilty did not happen although I think Kathmandu Nepal by plane is a distinct possiblity and have speculated that earlier.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: walkingpneumonia on July 17, 2008, 06:09:46 PM
Total speculation here... What did the teams do in NZ? Wouldn't it be great TV if they had to find Phil's house? Spend the night on his sofa? :cook Phil makes pancakes for breakfast...
You heard it here first! blahblah
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on July 17, 2008, 06:51:57 PM
oohh sign me up for that one! :luvu:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on July 17, 2008, 06:55:26 PM
Theres no way in hell I'd be sleeping on Phil's sofa!! Know that!
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: gingerman28 on July 17, 2008, 07:28:02 PM
Phil might invite them into the Big Brother house. :lol: :lol:
forget big brother. jerry jerry jerry
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: georgiapeach on July 26, 2008, 03:34:47 PM
Philiminator @ Sucks has posted this:
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I was in Moscow Russia for a week from 7th of May until 14th. I was informed that a male & female with a camera-crew were nearby. Immediately knew it could be The Amazing Race. I waited around for just 5 minutes, to then witness another possible Amazing Race team, he was being followed by a camera-crew, he was in a blue shirt, looking for something in the 1 mile long hedge, he looked extremely tired and very sweaty. He left after about 5 minutes, after waiting around for 20 minutes I went back to the apartment, I later listened in on a conversation in a resteraunt, there was apparently another male looking in the same hedge, he could have been with another male. There were also rumors that there were a 4th team possibly both being female, but with no evidence I cant really say.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on July 26, 2008, 07:25:05 PM
Any chance we can get a better picture? lol
eta: why would he be looking for a cluebox by hiself? no partner? also wheres the so called second place team picture? I see 1 person. How does he know they are second place?
First he writes (http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/sreply/3221270/t/Official-Pre-Race-TAR13-Spoiler-Thread.html)
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Philiminater wrote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I got an image of the second place teams in Moscow, Russia, how do I insert the image on a reply.
follow up:
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I was in Moscow Russia for a week from 7th of May until 14th. I was informed that a male & female with a camera-crew were nearby. Immediately knew it could be The Amazing Race. I waited around for just 5 minutes, to then witness another possible Amazing Race team, he was being followed by a camera-crew, he was in a blue shirt, looking for something in the 1 mile long hedge, he looked extremely tired and very sweaty. He left after about 5 minutes, after waiting around for 20 minutes I went back to the apartment, I later listened in on a conversation in a resteraunt, there was apparently another male looking in the same hedge, he could have been with another male. There were also rumors that there were a 4th team possibly both being female, but with no evidence I cant really say.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on July 26, 2008, 09:45:52 PM
Well I have asked loads of stuff in PM and online and am hoping to hear something! :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Chateau d If on July 27, 2008, 01:20:31 AM
Also odd that he's solo (Raoadblock?). But then, why would he have on a backpack during a Roadblock? :duno:
Don't forget to ask for camera date info. :waves:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on July 27, 2008, 01:27:14 AM
To Georgia Peach, You asked where the sreet was, after hearing there was a m/f team nearby, I stayed out looking around for a bit, the place was called Tverskoy bulvar, I honestly have no idea about the hedge, the hedge seperates two roads apart that's all, the hedge was also 1 - 2 miles long. I saw them at around 4:00pm, we went to the resteraunt about 7:00pm meaning that if there was a m/m team, it would have been from 4:30 to around 6:30. I say they were the 2nd team because I was told that another team had came through, it could be that they are 3rd or 4th, but there was a team ahead and a team behind, could be two teams behind. I expect it to be a m/f because it is unlikely that two m/m teams are left in the final 3 or 4, but it could well have been m/m. In the resteraunt it was just an ordinary elderly couple who sat next to us.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on July 27, 2008, 12:36:02 PM
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the place was called Tverskoy bulvar
Slowhatch? :lol: Would GE help?
In Maps! I have this handy interactive street locater for Moscow: http://www.euroave.com/maps/00mapx.php?xcity=moscow
To Georgia Peach, You asked where the sreet was, after hearing there was a m/f team nearby, I stayed out looking around for a bit, the place was called Tverskoy bulvar, I honestly have no idea about the hedge, the hedge seperates two roads apart that's all, the hedge was also 1 - 2 miles long. I saw them at around 4:00pm, we went to the resteraunt about 7:00pm meaning that if there was a m/m team, it would have been from 4:30 to around 6:30. I say they were the 2nd team because I was told that another team had came through, it could be that they are 3rd or 4th, but there was a team ahead and a team behind, could be two teams behind. I expect it to be a m/f because it is unlikely that two m/m teams are left in the final 3 or 4, but it could well have been m/m. In the resteraunt it was just an ordinary elderly couple who sat next to us.
:sucks Sounds about right, puddin. :angel:
Tverskoy Boulevard (Russian: Тверской бульвар) is one of the main thoroughfares in central Moscow. It is a part of the Boulevard Ring and begins at the end of the Nikitsky Boulevard, at the crossing with Nikitsky Street. The boulevard ends at the Pushkin Square and Tverskaya Street, one of the busiest places in Moscow. East of Tverskaya Street becomes Strastnoy Boulevard.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on July 27, 2008, 12:45:30 PM
Boingo!! :hearts:
see my map?
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Boingo on July 27, 2008, 01:19:33 PM
any cross street names? Can we see it street level? :jumpy:
I included a link to the GE .kmz file...just double click on the file name, then Open it, and it should startup GE automatically and go right there. Then in GE enable the "Panoramio" anf GE Community" options and you can see street views. I'm looking right now for any match on the hedge.
eta: Just to repeat what I posted before:
Tverskoy Boulevard (Russian: Тверской бульвар) is one of the main thoroughfares in central Moscow. It is a part of the Boulevard Ring and begins at the end of the Nikitsky Boulevard, at the crossing with Nikitsky Street. The boulevard ends at the Pushkin Square and Tverskaya Street, one of the busiest places in Moscow. East of Tverskaya Street becomes Strastnoy Boulevard.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on July 27, 2008, 01:48:58 PM
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Boingo on July 27, 2008, 01:51:01 PM
:groan: No hedges on the Blvd., but Pushkin Square (just north) seems to have some (low) hedges. :knuckles: :duno:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on July 27, 2008, 01:52:23 PM
Thanks Boingo and puddin--that is way cool...but I can't see a hedge either?
It looks fairly urban...let me go see if I can find out any more....
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on July 27, 2008, 01:53:10 PM
Just a thought..but what about near the Museum?
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Boingo on July 27, 2008, 02:06:49 PM
:sucks you're right peach, they seem to be connected... as the Blvd. is very near Matt's Bulgakov House Museum location. :yess:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Chateau d If on July 27, 2008, 02:07:05 PM
It is near the Russian writer's flat (museum).
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Boingo on July 27, 2008, 03:33:40 PM
:lol: just because it's cool... Panoramic view from Pushkin Square (http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/10658596.jpg)
no spoilers, but nice views of the Blvd... looks like Indiana Jones is playing at the Rossiya Theater.. :funny:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: north09 on July 27, 2008, 03:50:18 PM
According to Google, it takes around 4 minutes to get from Pushkin Square to the Bulgakov House Museum by driving, and 13 by walking.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on July 27, 2008, 03:52:03 PM
lots of info here
http://www.passportmagazine.ru/article/101/
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Boingo on July 27, 2008, 04:38:41 PM
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To Georgia Peach, You asked where the sreet was, after hearing there was a m/f team nearby, I stayed out looking around for a bit, the place was called Tverskoy bulvar, I honestly have no idea about the hedge, the hedge seperates two roads apart that's all, the hedge was also 1 - 2 miles long. I saw them at around 4:00pm, we went to the resteraunt about 7:00pm meaning that if there was a m/m team, it would have been from 4:30 to around 6:30. I say they were the 2nd team because I was told that another team had came through, it could be that they are 3rd or 4th, but there was a team ahead and a team behind, could be two teams behind. I expect it to be a m/f because it is unlikely that two m/m teams are left in the final 3 or 4, but it could well have been m/m. In the resteraunt it was just an ordinary elderly couple who sat next to us.
blahblah Hey peach, just for kicks, can you ask your contact if its really Tverskoy Boulevard or another street called Tsvetnoy Boulevard ???
The description of the "hedge" dividing two roads fits Tsvetnoy also. Maybe not, but they both sound the same. Did a quick check and the other boulevard has some interesting shrubbery. :lol:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on July 27, 2008, 04:58:46 PM
I'll ask, but am not getting the quickest replies? :lol:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Boingo on July 27, 2008, 05:31:35 PM
:angel: hmmm... is that a "hedge" behind that guy.... :lol: oh no.... scary clowns (:;) :snicker:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Boingo on July 27, 2008, 05:44:38 PM
:badhorse: Either boulevard is not that far from the Bulgakov House Museum. :lol:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on July 28, 2008, 06:03:15 AM
More info from Philiminater:
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I cant really pinpoit the location anymore, I was only there for 30 minutes, it was probably near the end of the street because his car was parked at the end. I think it was seperating a large road from a smaller road, the smaller road had very large houses on teh outskirts. The date I saw the team was 13th May, which is why I say they were probably on the way out of Russia.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on July 28, 2008, 02:00:20 PM
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his car was parked at the end
We know they took the monorail into Moscow per Robyn, that does not mean that they could not have been instructed to take a car from there but why would he be running with a backpack if his car is parked nearby? unless he had dumped the car at this point but still where is his partner, why no pictures of the camera men. unclear tiny photo no shadows of camera men nor photos no signs of a partner nor did the poster see a partner many things do not add up
== smelling more and more like bull **** to me, nothing more than a wild goose chase imo.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: north09 on July 28, 2008, 02:08:59 PM
This close to the end, it's more likely it is fake. The frat boys were spotted in Portland as decoys. They probably get eliminated before Moscow.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Hooky on July 28, 2008, 02:39:26 PM
We know they took the monorail into Moscow per Robyn, that does not mean that they could not have been instructed to take a car from there but why would he be running with a backpack if his car is parked nearby? unless he had dumped the car at this point but still where is his partner, why no pictures of the camera men. unclear tiny photo no shadows of camera men nor photos no signs of a partner nor did the poster see a partner many things do not add up
== smelling more and more like bull **** to me, nothing more than a wild goose chase imo.
To add to your list I also don't see a yellow tag on his bag. If he has one at all it could be blue - meaning production, but he doesn't look like a production guy either. It could just be that I can't see because the photos are too blurry.
I think it could be false.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on August 01, 2008, 11:45:51 AM
From the BVM interview, we have "cobblestone street" in Bolivia:
Since we know it is La PAz, I am coming up with this so far:
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Acho and other witches, medicine women, folk doctors, astrologers, fortunetellers, and sorcerers live and work on the Calle Linares, a cobblestone street in an old quarter of La Paz known for generations as the Mercado de las Brujas, or Witches' Market.
Calle Jaen with its cobblestone street, balconies and stone doorways makes you think you are in Spain. There are four museums here: Museo del Litoral, Museo de Metales Preciosos Pre-Colombinos, Museo de Instrumentos Musicales, and the Casa de Don Pedro Domingo Murillo (first door on the left in the picture). The Museo Costumbrista Juan de Vargas is on Sucre just to the right from where the picture was taken.
We know they took the monorail into Moscow per Robyn, that does not mean that they could not have been instructed to take a car from there but why would he be running with a backpack if his car is parked nearby? unless he had dumped the car at this point but still where is his partner, why no pictures of the camera men. blahblah
Not to put a too fine point on it, and questionable sighting aside, BVM gave some interesting hints about the Moscow leg. He was quoted as saying " ...A by-train-or-by-bus scavenger hunt in Moscow."
Given the 4.2km monorail connects two Metro stations, could the Moscow leg be something like the previous TAR (Romber) London leg, where the racers were limited to public transportation (subway).
Moscow has a huge subway system and very bad traffic jams. Perhaps they can decide to get from one location to another using either the bus or train (subway/monorail). (Cabs could take too long in this city.)
Just a thought. :bubs
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Boingo on August 01, 2008, 03:13:33 PM
But cobblestone streets seem to be everywhere! :lol:
:funny: maybe they have to "jump the shark" (or rather, jump the rubble in the street) with their wooden bikes... :lol:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on August 01, 2008, 04:14:24 PM
I love the scavenger hunt thing...I have been wondering why out of all the fab places in Moscow they would choose a rather obscure museum? Maybe this explains it...
So we need more Metro info and more bus info...which would be the better choice? I
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: north09 on August 01, 2008, 05:54:22 PM
A good old scvenger hunt around Moscow sounds like a great idea!
So I did some mapping out on google to get the answer on which is faster: bus or subway? I used Pushkin Square as a starting point. By bus, it would take around 54 minutes to get to the All-Russia Exhibition Centre. There are many bus stops along the way, with buses comming every 30 minutes. By subway, it takes 28 minutes. There is only one stop in between, which requires the racers to take another subway. The first trip takes 3 minutes, with a transfer taking only 2 minutes. The 2nd trip takes 10 minutes. Subways run every 2 minutes. The only real problem with taking the subway is that it doesn't drop you off right infront of the pitstop. it takes another 10 minutes to walk.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Boingo on August 01, 2008, 06:53:41 PM
I love the scavenger hunt thing...I have been wondering why out of all the fab places in Moscow they would choose a rather obscure museum? Maybe this explains it...
;) Time to recycle a pix from the spoiler thread. As shown, the monorail (4.2 km) runs between 2 metro stations. (I also read somewhere that the two end stations on the monorail line are not physically connected to the nearby metro stations. You have to physically exit the metro station and walk over to the monorail station).
(Per Robyn's spoilers) my guess is they get on the monorail at the Timiryazevskaya station on the way to the station near the Exposition Center. The VDNKh station is so close to the station entrance of the Exposition Center that they probably don't come from that direction. Sooooo.... racers somehow end up at the Timiryazevskaya (metro) station, but from where. All the spoiled locations are within walking distance of a metro station. Good luck. :lol:
Just guesssing but the challenge with the subway would be reading the signs in cyrillic. :groan:
That's a museum? There is smoke there like it is running...
Most old-timey rail museums have working steam locos. Check out the station using Google Earth and you will see the layout. The railway museum is at Rizskiy railway terminal.
ETA: BTW, all this was previously shown in the "spoiler" thread. :sucks
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on August 01, 2008, 08:09:43 PM
Smoke that peach :sucks :neener: j/k
eta http://picasaweb.google.com/nekh.studio/TheMoscowRailroadMuseum
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on August 01, 2008, 08:21:33 PM
Thanks puddin! :kuss:
:crazy Horrors! I missed a post! :didimiss: :iok
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Boingo on August 01, 2008, 08:26:06 PM
:sucks Birds-eye view of Moscow Railroad Museum (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/3164442)
yet more stuff.... :snicker:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Slowhatch on August 01, 2008, 08:31:50 PM
Until more info comes in, it may be a waste of time looking for a particular cobblestone street. Our blogger friend saw the bikes at Plaza Abaroa (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eastlincolnstreet/220387975/) in the Sopocachi neighborhood, and as this blog (http://blogs.bootsnall.com/theglobaltrip/updates/2004_01.shtml) implies, cobblestone is everywhere:
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I walked up and down the cobblestone streets of Sopacachi...
Street map here (http://ats.abris-a.com/bolivia/map/bol-m-la-paz-3.jpg); in fact, many good South American maps at the source page (http://www.guia4x4.com.ar/mapas_de_sudamerica.html).
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on August 01, 2008, 09:20:14 PM
Perfect timing! I am updating MAPS! as we speak--thank you!!
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: apskip on August 02, 2008, 12:02:42 AM
I am traveling overseas and have unexpected access to a PC. I have been reading the threads of the past 3 days and have a few comments:
1. In Moscow to get around quickly thte metro is the only effective choice. Buses are slowed down by the core traffic that is causing the congestion problems.
2. The discussion on 5 continents gets a definitive answer form me and it is the same ont Peach gave. Oceania is now the releveant continent and New Zealand is part of it. I believe tha rules out Africa from AR13 since teams will ahve to finish in Portland (North America).
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Boingo on August 05, 2008, 08:01:18 PM
:bubs Just checking....yep, there it is, just where it should be. Red Star Train next to the Rizskaya (Rizskiy) Train Station (Musuem). :funny:
...ok, i'm officially bored... :snicker:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on August 05, 2008, 08:35:50 PM
I was in Moscow Russia for a week from 7th of May until 14th. I was informed that a male & female with a camera-crew were nearby. Immediately knew it could be The Amazing Race. I waited around for just 5 minutes, to then witness another possible Amazing Race team, he was being followed by a camera-crew, he was in a blue shirt, looking for something in the 1 mile long hedge, he looked extremely tired and very sweaty. He left after about 5 minutes, after waiting around for 20 minutes I went back to the apartment, I later listened in on a conversation in a resteraunt, there was apparently another male looking in the same hedge, he could have been with another male. There were also rumors that there were a 4th team possibly both being female, but with no evidence I cant really say.
Fake, told you, good thing we have peachytits on board to call out Philiminator aka twoscoops (http://www.survivorsucks.com/topic/28916?page=18) :yikes
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: north09 on August 09, 2008, 11:56:34 AM
Well, I agree that it's a decoy leg, but I don't really see how this twoscoops guy really helped. His post seemed more intended to insult peach!
:funny: at the Bull**** button
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on August 09, 2008, 03:11:40 PM
north--the whole thing is a FALSE SPOILER--there is no truth to it at all--not a decoy--totally 100% false. That hedge is in the western Cotswalds, lol.
And twoscoops IS also Philiminater and is just pissed cuz I called him on it. Too bad his energy didn't go to helping us find spoilers instead of making false ones. :groan:
I think I may need a new avatar involving peach titties though!
:boobs: :boobs: :boobs:
:funny: :funny: :funny:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Kiwi Jay on August 09, 2008, 03:30:23 PM
:funny: what an idiot philiminator is :funny:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: north09 on August 09, 2008, 03:55:12 PM
:funny: god I'm slow!
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Chateau d If on August 12, 2008, 01:30:38 PM
Who wants to speculate with me that TAR13 goes to Tskhinvali, capital of Georgian breakaway enclave of South Ossetia. :ascared
YouTube CNN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biZlqZVrB58&) YouTube BBC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC-KNZryumY&NR=1) YouTube BBC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr1sd0fLqWE)
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: TARAsia Fan on August 12, 2008, 01:33:38 PM
ap? ap? anyone? anyone? :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: GonzaloChileno on August 13, 2008, 09:23:28 PM
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Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on August 13, 2008, 09:33:56 PM
YouTube CNN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biZlqZVrB58&) YouTube BBC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC-KNZryumY&NR=1) YouTube BBC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr1sd0fLqWE)
No way, Jose; arn't you reading the papers. Its a sad state of affairs in Georgia, and it wasn't much better back in April, either. But a trip to Tiflis or Tbilisi would have really been an interesting new place. And certainly not Tskhinvali in any case. :groan:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Chateau d If on August 16, 2008, 01:20:32 PM
Thanks Gman, I was approaching it from the perspective that it would be typical TAR bad luck to visit a location that subsequently experienced a calamity. eg Sri Lanka, New Orleans.
But as you say, if it was a bad-news location in April then it would not be a likely stop. :tup:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: apskip on August 17, 2008, 07:08:57 AM
It's pretty clear to me that Chateau wasn't serious in Tskhiinvali as a ARA13 pitstop. A minor capital of a minor province? No way. However, I agree with GMAN that Tblisi, a major capital of a decent sized country in between Delhi and Moscow, is a possilbity.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: TARAsia Fan on August 17, 2008, 10:37:53 PM
Heck, I would happy if they even considered a start in Providence, but I know that ain't happening.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on August 19, 2008, 03:15:33 AM
Oh wow...look at this! :ascared :'( :ascared
Starting at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, the 13th season of the Emmy-winning reality competition (premiering Sept. 28 at 8 p.m. EDT) will follow the teams as they travel over 30,000 miles in 23 days to countries such as Brazil, Bolivia, Russia, India and Kazakhstan. It's the first time the series visited the landlocked country lampooned by Sacha Baron Cohen in "Borat."
"We shot most of that episode in the capital," said executive producer Bertram van Munster. "People were a little afraid we were going to pull a 'Borat' on them. I told them we weren't doing 'Borat,' but what happened there is very, very funny. It's not easy to shoot in places like that because they practically have no television industry."
Van Munster, who is currently scouting locations in Asia for the 14th season, promised the 13th season will include a series of firsts for the reality competition, including a mistake that ultimately prohibited one team from joining their fellow racers at the finish line, as well as a memorable first-ever stop for "The Amazing Race" in Cambodia.
"The teams have no idea how to get from Point A to Point B there," said van Munster. "They don't know the language. It's very difficult to get through this country. They get so stuck, but they find so many fascinating solutions of how to get through everything. One of the things the teams do there is go to a real-life floating village. It's insane."
http://www.wral.com/entertainment/story/3398259/
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on August 19, 2008, 03:18:24 AM
My first thought was the Frats peachs! They were seen late walking around Portland ..maybe turned into decoys? thats my gut.
• The race takes 23 days, covers nearly 40,000 miles, spans five continents, and features some far-flung locales never before seen on the show, including Angkor Wat, Cambodia and La Paz, Bolivia.
• The youngest team is a tandem of two guys in their early 20s. “They’re made for television,” Van Munster says. “They’re supersmart — and they make terrible mistakes.” A pair of recent divorcees in their late 20s also vie for the million-dollar prize. “They were left with some financial debt, so they really have a motive to run around the world,” he says. And once again, expect a serving of granola — this time with a husband-wife squad of 60-something Oregon hippies. “They’re the real thing,” says Van Munster. “They come right out of the '60s. To a lot of people, it looks almost like they’re from a different planet.”
• One familiar thing actually did happen on this race: The producers didn’t predict the winner. Says Van Munster, “We’ve been wrong every time, across the board.”
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on August 19, 2008, 03:20:46 AM
Okay guys, I AM able to share some more info w/ you!
With many thanks to our incredible Portland photographer who has been hard at work on our behalf!!
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I'm pleased to report that I saw a male-male team in downtown Portland this evening (peach: that would be 5/14) at about 6:00 local time. A cameraman and a sound man were following them.
I saw them head west along Alder, then south on 10th, then east on Morrison. They asked for directions at the food carts that occupy the parking lot north of Alder, and they looked at a metal map kiosk at the corner of 10th and Morrison.
They looked to be mid to late 20s or even maybe early 30s. Both were wearing khaki trousers; the taller one was slightly heavyset and had reddish curly hair and was wearing a baseball cap and a blue T-shirt. The other had blonde to sandy blonde hair and no hat. Both had backpacks.
What struck me, though, was how slowly they were moving compared to my expections. They certainly were not running. I don't know if this means they are a decoy, or that they are real but exhausted, or that they are real and in last place, or what.
I often buy magazines at a store on 9th & Alder, so I asked the cashier there if I knew anything about TAR in Portland. He said, "Oh, is that what that was?" I said, "Is that what WHAT was?" He said he had seen a male and a female plus two-man crew also proceeding along Alder. I asked him when that was. He said about two hours previously, which puts it at around 4:00 p.m. I asked him if he recalled any other details; he said he did not, except that the girl was pretty. :-/
I did not have a camera with me, but where they were is VERY central location; and while Portland is considerably less densely occupied than, say, LA or even Denver, I will be very surprised if no one here managed to take a reasonable picture of at least one of the teams.
I asked our source if these guys could maybe be who he saw?
And so sadly, since we don't even know their names yet (that seems so wrong somehow!), he replied:
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Oooh! Yes, I do think so! Their relative heights and hair colors match!
Sad because this screams decoy to me...and interestingly, I believe it may be decoy being run AFTER the actual finale MAT arrival...
More later on...
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on August 19, 2008, 04:02:35 AM
That in combo with the BVM comment of "terrible mistakes" makes them the prime candidates I think.
I do believe that far more than usual of the teams were utilised as decoys this time due to the incredible publicity the teams received at the time, however--and it is possible that there could have been a decoy run even after the actual finale at the mat for the first time ever as well. So I don't think decoys are going to be much help to us this time.... :angel:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on August 19, 2008, 05:32:44 AM
"We shot most of that episode in the capital." Eh, Astana's been the capital since 1997! Thanks Bertram! :duno:
Well at least we know there's only one leg there...
Team being Guidoed? But that's not a first...
We know from our clues that they were in Alamaty...so is BVM being geographically challenged again or do we have another leg in Astana?
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Dragoondaniel on August 19, 2008, 07:41:57 AM
from...
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/about/
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Eleven teams will compete in THE AMAZING RACE 13, traveling over 30,000 miles, spanning five continents, in 23 days, all starting from the world famous Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, site of the 1932 and 1984 Olympics. Phil Keoghan will host.
The 13th installment of THE AMAZING RACE will feature a variety of firsts, including: Teams traveling to a real-life water world where its inhabitants live upon a floating city; first time visits for the Race to locations such as Cambodia and Kazakhstan; and one Team makes an unprecedented mistake on the road that ultimately prohibits them from joining their fellow Racers at the finish line.
The cast also features couples in various stages of their lives - married beekeepers who have been together for years, a married but separated couple who is looking to rebuild their marriage, a newly dating couple who is still getting to know each other and best friends who are comic book aficionados and describe the Race as "the ultimate game on the biggest game board you can imagine.."
THE AMAZING RACE 13 premieres Sunday, Sept. 28 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) and audiences can watch full length episodes right here on CBS.com!
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: gingerman28 on August 19, 2008, 10:29:18 AM
The only locations not mentioned so far, but targeted by the TAR Detectives are: New Zealand and Chile and, of course, the final mat in Portland, OR. We even had the start location pinpointed before it was announced officially, the Memorial Colesium in LA LA Land. So it goes something like this, I guess:
Los Angeles Brazil Bolivia Chile New Zealand Cambodia India (via Bangkok) Kazakhstan Russia Portland
That's eight locations so perhaps two legs in two countries.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Boingo on August 19, 2008, 10:32:50 AM
"We shot most of that episode in the capital." Eh, Astana's been the capital since 1997! Thanks Bertram! :duno:
Well at least we know there's only one leg there...
Team being Guidoed? But that's not a first...
We know from our clues that they were in Alamaty...so is BVM being geographically challenged again or do we have another leg in Astana?
:groan: ...and both cities have international airports.... Alamaty is nearly 600 miles from Astana (as the crow flies). ;)
...I guess BVM has them fly into Astana (capital city) only because it's the capital, and there are probably a lot of cool things there. How they get to Almaty is anyones guess. Maybe an extended leg before Russia. :duno:
edited to add: Almaty is right up against the Xinjiang Uygur (Uighur) Autonomous Region of China. Interesting coincidence.... :angel:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Boingo on August 19, 2008, 11:05:59 AM
Here's one possibility between Almaty and Astana.... overnight trains :duno:
Kazakhstan Buys Two Talgo Trains (Dec. 2000)
KAZAKHSTAN Railways (KTZ) has awarded a Pesetas 6 billion ($US 32 million) contract to Patentes Talgo, Spain, for the supply of two Talgo 200 sleeping-car trains fitted with Talgo's RD automatic gauge changing system. The deal was signed in Madrid by Mr Ablai Myrakhmetov, president of KTZ, and Mr Lucas de Oriol, vice-president of Patentes Talgo.
Each trainset will have 23 cars. They will operate on the 1334km main line between Almaty and Astana. Tests were carried out in June with a five-car Talgo rake hauled by a 140km/h KTZ locomotive. The train was able to cut eight hours off the journey time. The current fastest journey time is 19h 40min.
So 19.6h - 8h = 11.6h :angel:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Zack. on August 19, 2008, 11:07:06 AM
The only locations not mentioned so far, but targeted by the TAR Detectives are: New Zealand and Chile and, of course, the final mat in Portland, OR. We even had the start location pinpointed before it was announced officially, the Memorial Colesium in LA LA Land. So it goes something like this, I guess:
Los Angeles Brazil Bolivia Chile New Zealand Cambodia India (via Bangkok) Kazakhstan Russia Portland
That's eight locations so perhaps two legs in two countries.
There are two legs in Brazil again, no? (Salvador, Fortaleza). I think that Chile is only a transit point on the road to New Zealand and that Cambodia/Kazakhstan host two legs also.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: patlini on August 19, 2008, 11:16:02 AM
Boingo
i'm liking the train speculation, i think that would work in central asia.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Boingo on August 19, 2008, 11:29:01 AM
i'm liking the train speculation, i think that would work in central asia.
:lol: me too, patlini. ;) Eat your heart out apskip, the Official Astana-Almaty Train Schedule (http://www.astana.kz/eng/city/transport/ghelezz/rrailvays/) site :sucks
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: TARAsia Fan on August 19, 2008, 11:30:57 AM
Tee hee. :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on August 19, 2008, 12:14:53 PM
I'll take India for 2 legs and all of Russia for a total of 3. I'll now pass on Cambodia as 2 pit stops, rather on day 2 in Cambodia teams search for a clue that takes them to obscure India, how else would they know that the place in India was obscure? They must have had a "clue".
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on August 19, 2008, 12:35:49 PM
I love choo-choo's! And we know that TPTB love making them ride trains in India which looked unlikely this time. So I would adore a train trip thru Kazakhstan! We do need to check our times to see if we could squeeze this in though...
Good job patlini and Boingo on your finds! :hearts:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on August 19, 2008, 12:43:18 PM
I'll take India for 2 legs and all of Russia for a total of 3. I'll now pass on Cambodia as 2 pit stops, rather on day 2 in Cambodia teams search for a clue that takes them to obscure India, how else would they know that the place in India was obscure? They must have had a "clue".
Wasn't it an obscure location in Delhi? I thought it was probably the grain place.... ???
From Jason:
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Girls: Um, can you do us a favor? So you're going to India? Me: No, actually Nepal. Girls: Oh. Is that near India? Girls: Well, we need to find something in India and thought you might be able to help since you were going near there. Me: Okkkkkkkkk. But I'm actually going to Nepal. Girls: Well, we're looking for something really obscure in Delhi.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: apskip on August 19, 2008, 01:44:29 PM
boingo, nice work but who cares. Train speculation is not very useful with the distances and times involved in rail travel. Would you put AR13 teams on a 13 hour train from Almaty to Astana just to avoid a one hour plane flight? I don't think so.
What is truly interesting is that Astana has better flights in to Moscow than Almaty does(see my post on this from way back). It is also a major city in its own right and there would be enough of interest to warrant a leg there in addition to the one in Almaty.
I think there is a strong possiblity that my hunch of 2 Kazakhstan legs may come true. It's a lot more probable than two Moscow legs given the several prior Amazing Racae Moscow visits.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: apskip on August 19, 2008, 01:58:29 PM
"We shot most of that episode in the capital." Eh, Astana's been the capital since 1997! Thanks Bertram! :duno:
Well at least we know there's only one leg there...
Team being Guidoed? But that's not a first...
We know from our clues that they were in Alamaty...so is BVM being geographically challenged again or do we have another leg in Astana?
I will bet on the leg in Astana. The reasons are flight availability to Moscow better than Almaty, Astana is a major city in its own right, and another leg in Kazakhstan is way more cool than other alternatives.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on August 19, 2008, 02:16:20 PM
I'll take India for 2 legs and all of Russia for a total of 3. I'll now pass on Cambodia as 2 pit stops, rather on day 2 in Cambodia teams search for a clue that takes them to obscure India, how else would they know that the place in India was obscure? They must have had a "clue".
Wasn't it an obscure location in Delhi? I thought it was probably the grain place.... ???
From Jason:
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Girls: Um, can you do us a favor? So you're going to India? Me: No, actually Nepal. Girls: Oh. Is that near India? Girls: Well, we need to find something in India and thought you might be able to help since you were going near there. Me: Okkkkkkkkk. But I'm actually going to Nepal. Girls: Well, we're looking for something really obscure in Delhi.
The point being is that they normally get a clue, fly to Delhi, India then get a clue in say Delhi to tell them what the first task is not ""go to some place obscure India, get it? Remember they were on flight from Bangkok to Delhi when they talked to Jason, not in Delhi. So I'm thinking the last task in Cambodia was seaching for the faces (brb)
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We didn't manage to take a picture of it but i think we ran into a couple doing the Amazing Race here. We'll have to check out the next season but the couple was being followed by a camera man and they had to find a specific face in the ruins. http://paulmarkthirnan.blogspot.com/2008/05/angkor-wat-cambodia.html
Blog (http://myweirdmindwonders.blogspot.com/2008/05/just-to-catch-up.html)
Tuesday, May 6, 2008 Just to catch up.... So I just got back into Thailand from Cambodia.... which is why i haven't posted in a while. Ends up that Cambodia is not a telecommunications mecca. Anyways, everything has kinda been a whirlwind. Covered 3 countries in 2 weeks and it kinda feels like we are on "The Amazing Race".... and i mean literally. Yesterday we were in Angkor Wat (more of that story later... it is AMAZING... you should look up pictures... seriously a Wonder of the Ancient world--- i thought better than the stuff i saw in Rome) The Amazing Race was filming at Angkor the same day we were there. AND THEN... we end up at the airport to fly to Bangkok from Cambodia... and who was on our airplane.... thats right.... 3 teams competing on the next season of the Amazing Race. We are sitting there and then all the sudden all these camera and sound guys are filming everything. And the producer guy was sitting in the seat right behind me and vida. CRAZY!! So now we consider ourselves official unofficial cast members. And before all this started I was telling vida that i thought it felt like we were on the amazing race.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on August 19, 2008, 02:17:00 PM
boingo, nice work but who cares. Train speculation is not very useful with the distances and times involved in rail travel. Would you put AR13 teams on a 13 hour train from Almaty to Astana just to avoid a one hour plane flight? I don't think so.
I most certainly care.... and as always we ALL try to appreciate each others contributions here. :angel:
And if I was a producer would I want the drama of a train ride compared to just another airport? You betcha. And they have done it before... We of course have no clue as to whether or not they did in this case, but I for one would love it if they did, and in any case love hearing all the options. I agree w/ patlini that we don't want to be watching an episode again w/ egg on our faces because we didn't look at all the options.
So thank you Boingo and Patlini for your speculation! and you apskip for your flights!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: michael on August 19, 2008, 03:57:46 PM
omg I got peach's message today when I was in the gym and I got so excited to come home and see the teams!
I can't wait for TAR to start up again it's going to be so much fun :D
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: gingerman28 on August 20, 2008, 03:18:34 PM
omg I got peach's message today when I was in the gym and I got so excited to come home and see the teams!
I can't wait for TAR to start up again it's going to be so much fun :D
And Michael the producers were good to you again - did you catch the pair of dizzy blondes? Racing just for you. The girls in pink seem to go most of the way, but may be the team that can't finish the race.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: georgiapeach on August 20, 2008, 04:39:49 PM
Just to clarify--we have 5 women seen in pink along the way... :angel:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: Mrs Shrek on August 20, 2008, 05:12:45 PM
Just to clarify--we have 5 women seen in pink along the way... :angel:
So Michael's chance of picking a winner this time are better than average? :flirt: :funny:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: topaz on August 20, 2008, 09:52:44 PM
I heard some speculation that this season might be feature Chile in South America, again. If that's the case, I hope they should go to this place at the world's largest swimming pool located in Algarrobo, Chile, and here's the links and infos:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: georgiapeach on August 20, 2008, 11:30:07 PM
2+2+1=5
and that's only the ones we know about!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on August 21, 2008, 07:30:35 AM
Which leads us to the Psychedelic Furs' "Pretty in Pink" from the great 1980's movie, "Pretty in Pink" starring Molly Ringwald, Andrew McCarthy and Jon Cryer. A TARAsia Fan favorite, btw. :yess: :yess:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: hornean on September 06, 2008, 01:14:59 PM
Okay guys, I AM able to share some more info w/ you!
With many thanks to our incredible Portland photographer who has been hard at work on our behalf!!
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I'm pleased to report that I saw a male-male team in downtown Portland this evening (peach: that would be 5/14) at about 6:00 local time. A cameraman and a sound man were following them.
I saw them head west along Alder, then south on 10th, then east on Morrison. They asked for directions at the food carts that occupy the parking lot north of Alder, and they looked at a metal map kiosk at the corner of 10th and Morrison.
They looked to be mid to late 20s or even maybe early 30s. Both were wearing khaki trousers; the taller one was slightly heavyset and had reddish curly hair and was wearing a baseball cap and a blue T-shirt. The other had blonde to sandy blonde hair and no hat. Both had backpacks.
What struck me, though, was how slowly they were moving compared to my expections. They certainly were not running. I don't know if this means they are a decoy, or that they are real but exhausted, or that they are real and in last place, or what.
I often buy magazines at a store on 9th & Alder, so I asked the cashier there if I knew anything about TAR in Portland. He said, "Oh, is that what that was?" I said, "Is that what WHAT was?" He said he had seen a male and a female plus two-man crew also proceeding along Alder. I asked him when that was. He said about two hours previously, which puts it at around 4:00 p.m. I asked him if he recalled any other details; he said he did not, except that the girl was pretty. :-/
I did not have a camera with me, but where they were is VERY central location; and while Portland is considerably less densely occupied than, say, LA or even Denver, I will be very surprised if no one here managed to take a reasonable picture of at least one of the teams.
I asked our source if these guys could maybe be who he saw?
And so sadly, since we don't even know their names yet (that seems so wrong somehow!), he replied:
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Oooh! Yes, I do think so! Their relative heights and hair colors match!
Sad because this screams decoy to me...and interestingly, I believe it may be decoy being run AFTER the actual finale MAT arrival...
More later on...
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Those guys looks just like Andrew & Dan.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: michael on September 22, 2008, 11:08:02 AM
Wow, so (believe it or not) I *JUST* finally took the time to read this thread (well not all of it cause it's to long, but the important posts) carefully because I felt so lost when I was reading what you guys were talking about. I think I'm finally up to speed now and will be able to follow all the conversation haha
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: puddin on September 25, 2008, 08:32:43 PM
Thanks to USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2008-09-25-amazing-race-route_N.htm).........
Looks like we have all covered here! :yess: and more New Zealand stuff!!
This year's 23-day itinerary, revealed in advance for the first time, covers 30,000 miles and has 11 stops in eight countries: Brazil, Bolivia, New Zealand, Cambodia, India, Kazakhstan, Russia and the USA (the race starts in L.A. and finishes in Portland, Ore.).
•Phil interview: (http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2008-09-25-keoghan-qna_N.htm) •Q: You're also going back to your birthplace, New Zealand, the adventure capital of the world, for the third time. What new thrills can we expect to see? A: New Zealanders are very proud of their indigenous Maori culture, and we were looking to get something of that in the show. We ended up having the teams search for Maori warriors on an extinct volcano (near Auckland), and it was the most magical morning when they arrived: As the sun was rising, there were these warriors doing the haka (a traditional war dance) with a magnificent rainbow over the top of the hill.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: georgiapeach on September 25, 2008, 08:57:54 PM
Finally some NZ news! :hearts:
And look!
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And you'll see my dad make an appearance in this season's New Zealand episode, where I was able to help him celebrate his 66th birthday.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: Neobie on September 25, 2008, 09:06:14 PM
Hmm. We already had all the countries?
Brazil's a double, so where do the other two doubles fit in: Cambodia, India or Kazakhstan?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: georgiapeach on September 25, 2008, 09:13:04 PM
I vote Kazakhstan for the times...
Auckland You haven't seen Auckland until you've checked out its cones When you're sprawled out on the grass at the Auckland Domain, remember that you're perched on a volcano. Along with Albert Park, this was the site of one of Auckland's first eruptions.
The largest, and most recent, eruption was around 600 years ago at Rangitoto. During this time the region was dotted with 48 volcanic cones. You can still spot these cones today – just look for the tell-tale green pastures in an otherwise densely built-up city.
A visit to Auckland is not complete without a trek up at least one of these cones and the two most popular are Mt Eden and One Tree Hill.
Mt Eden is the highest volcano on the Auckland isthmus and provides stunning views over the city and its harbours.
One Tree Hill was one of the largest Maori settlement complexes in New Zealand and has been claimed to be the largest pre-historic earth fort in the world.
Here's three top ways to check out these locations:
Via the Coast to Coast walkway, a half-day walk from the Waitemata Harbour to the Manukau Harbour; courtesy of a guided walk with a local guide from the Ngati Whatua tribe or privately by car, or on foot.
One Tree Hill is one of Auckland's most recognisable landmarks and from its summit you get 360-degree views of the city.
It was formed up to 30,000 years ago and is one of several inactive volcanos in the Auckland area. The others include Mt Eden, Mt Wellington and Rangitoto Island.
Situated within Cornwall Park, One Tree Hill has at its peak a large obelisk that was erected early last century as a tribute to the local Maori population.
On its slopes are more than 170 man-made terraces that formed parts of three old Maori forts or pas. These make up what is believed to be the world's biggest pre-historic earth fortifications.
One Tree Hill has been public land since the 1840s and until recently was topped with a single pine tree. This was attacked and badly damaged by a political activist and was later cut down.
Today One Tree Hill offers Aucklanders and tourists a peaceful place in which to walk, jog, picnic or just sit and relax and enjoy some truly spectacular scenery.
http://www.tikitouring.co.nz/oth.htm
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: georgiapeach on September 26, 2008, 10:05:32 PM
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: Slowhatch on September 26, 2008, 10:21:56 PM
Hamilton Viewpoint park in Seattle, where the media day shots were taken. :waves:
Speaking of which...any guesses for this season? He's used up most of the tall buildings in town. :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: georgiapeach on September 26, 2008, 10:30:56 PM
Thank you! :hugs: I kept looking at that space needle place and it was driving me nuts.
Heee....even old Phil is good Phil! :-*
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: apskip on September 27, 2008, 01:41:31 PM
Let's assume that the CBS map is definitive on where the 2-leg places are. The next question that need to be answered is "Where is/are the NEL/(s) or TBC(s) in AR13?" We know from the fact that in a 11 leg race there are 8 elimination points and 1 final leg, leaving 2 legs for either TBCs or NELs.
Amazing Race history has taught us one thing beyond question, that the next-to-last pitstop is always TBC or NEL so that none of the 3 final teams will be eliminated. That means a TBC or NEL for leg 10 in Moscow.
The other question is then "Where is the remaining NEL/TBC?" It could be in any of legs 1 to 9, but I think the highest probability is for leg 6 (first Delhi area leg) or leg 7 (second Delhi area leg). The reason is that it is easiest to place a TBC leg with adjacent geography coming on the next leg combined with an any-regular leg even probability for a NEL leg.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on September 27, 2008, 02:06:51 PM
Let's assume that the CBS map is definitive on where the 2-leg places are. The next question that need to be answered is "Where is/are the NEL/(s) or TBC(s) in AR13?" We know from the fact that in a 11 leg race there are 8 elimination points and 1 final leg, leaving 2 legs for either TBCs or NELs.
Amazing Race history has taught us one thing beyond question, that the next-to-last pitstop is always TBC or NEL so that none of the 3 final teams will be eliminated. That means a TBC or NEL for leg 10 in Moscow.
The other question is then "Where is the remaining NEL/TBC?" It could be in any of legs 1 to 9, but I think the highest probability is for leg 6 (first Delhi area leg) or leg 7 (second Delhi area leg). The reason is that it is easiest to place a TBC leg with adjacent geography coming on the next leg combined with an any-regular leg even probability for a NEL leg.
Plus we know that 6 of the 11 teams make it to "New" Delhi making the first 5 legs elims, from there we can guess and mine would be the same as yours Apskips.
1. Salvador, Brazil - elim (Anita and Arthur?) 2. Fortaleza, Brazil-elim (the blonds or Anthony & Stephanie) 3. La Paz, Bolivia-elim ( the blonds or Anthony & Stephanie or mark & bill) 4. Te Puke, New Zealand-elim (the blonds or Anthony & Stephanie or mark & bill) 5. Siem Reap, Cambodia-elim (Aja & Ty?) 6. New Delhi, India-non-elim 7. Old Delhi, India- elim 8. Almaty, Kazakhstan-elim 9. Moscow, Russia-non elim 10. Moscow, Russia-elim ( Tina and Ken? I think) 11. Portland, Oregon-winner ( I have my own guess too, I too choose Nick & Starr)
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on October 07, 2008, 07:05:39 PM
I honestly have no idea where to post these, old news I know but since I came across them searching WRP stuff (http://picasaweb.google.com/dwishnuff/SiemReapLeMeridien#) why not.
We know the staff stayed at Le Meridian in Siem Reap so not a spoiler or anything ..for us. But always fun to see ...
A certain reality show that has contestants "race" around the world, staying at my hotel. (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/stills/DSC01107.jpg)
World Race Productions -- hmmm... (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/stills/DSC01108.jpg)
Part of the WRP fleet of vehicles. (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/stills/DSC01244.jpg)
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Kiwi Jay on October 07, 2008, 08:53:58 PM
Plus we know that 6 of the 11 teams make it to "New" Delhi making the first 5 legs elims, from there we can guess and mine would be the same as yours Apskips.
1. Salvador, Brazil - elim (Anita and Arthur?) 2. Fortaleza, Brazil-elim (the blonds or Anthony & Stephanie) 3. La Paz, Bolivia-elim ( the blonds or Anthony & Stephanie or mark & bill) 4. Te Puke, New Zealand-elim (the blonds or Anthony & Stephanie or mark & bill) 5. Siem Reap, Cambodia-elim (Aja & Ty?) 6. New Delhi, India-non-elim 7. Old Delhi, India- elim 8. Almaty, Kazakhstan-elim 9. Moscow, Russia-non elim 10. Moscow, Russia-elim ( Tina and Ken? I think) 11. Portland, Oregon-winner ( I have my own guess too, I too choose Nick & Starr)
You only have one Non Elimination
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on October 07, 2008, 09:24:25 PM
Plus we know that 6 of the 11 teams make it to "New" Delhi making the first 5 legs elims, from there we can guess and mine would be the same as yours Apskips.
1. Salvador, Brazil - elim (Anita and Arthur?) 2. Fortaleza, Brazil-elim (the blonds or Anthony & Stephanie) 3. La Paz, Bolivia-elim ( the blonds or Anthony & Stephanie or mark & bill) 4. Te Puke, New Zealand-elim (the blonds or Anthony & Stephanie or mark & bill) 5. Siem Reap, Cambodia-elim (Aja & Ty?) 6. New Delhi, India-non-elim 7. Old Delhi, India- elim 8. Almaty, Kazakhstan-elim 9. Moscow, Russia-non elim 10. Moscow, Russia-elim ( Tina and Ken? I think) 11. Portland, Oregon-winner ( I have my own guess too, I too choose Nick & Starr)
You only have one Non Elimination
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2008, 08:45:31 PM
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on October 13, 2008, 09:31:04 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one looking for this :jumpy: ..its very green like Russia or Kazakhstan so I think Slowhatch has given us the right direction.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: michael on October 23, 2008, 07:05:50 PM
Here's the description for the Kazakhstan episode...
Sunday, Nov. 16 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) THE AMAZING RACE-For the first time in the history of the series, Race takes teams to Kazakhstan, where the remaining racers have a close encounter of the "bird kind" when they are forced to contend with 30,000 chickens in their path to the pit stop. Phil Keoghan hosts
Sunday, Nov. 2 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) THE AMAZING RACE-As teams race through India, Mother Nature foils one racer when a windstorm blows away their detour, and a budding romance between competing racers causes their teammates to question their focus. Phil Keoghan hosts.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: patlini on October 23, 2008, 08:36:56 PM
budding romance = Starr/Dallas??
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Post by: Belle Book on October 23, 2008, 08:45:45 PM
I think Dallas is the one having a budding romance with someone from another team. The question is who. It could be Sarah or it could be Starr. But it's probably one of those two women. It's most likely Starr because Sarah's dating Terence and because Toni & Dallas seem to be aligned with Nick & Starr, but I'm not 100% certain.
Belle Book
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Post by: georgiapeach on October 23, 2008, 08:54:36 PM
Starr and Dallas were flirting from day one in the jungle tents...seems like I read this or saw an extra video or something? But I do remember it...
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Post by: michael on October 23, 2008, 09:04:40 PM
should we begin looking for chicken related tasks in Kazakhstan lol
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Post by: Boingo on October 23, 2008, 09:16:11 PM
should we begin looking for chicken related tasks in Kazakhstan lol
All those in favor of Michael to look for chicken tasks in Kazakhstan, raise your hands..... (one, two, three...) all opposed (....none). The majority having voted in the affirmative, the motion is passed. Go for it, dude. :tup: :lol:
Here's some links to get you started: Almaty Poultry processing (http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/product-compint-0001244906-page.html) Almaty Kus homepage (http://www.almatykus.kz) Almaty chicken lays special egg (http://www.nowpublic.com/chicken_in_kazakhstan_lays_egg_with_religious_motif)
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Post by: michael on October 23, 2008, 09:24:48 PM
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Post by: georgiapeach on October 23, 2008, 10:39:52 PM
Almaty chicken lays a special egg--oh my word I can't stop laughing helplessly, I think I may have finally lost it as she goes cackling into the corner..
:funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:
and I am off again. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by: michael on October 23, 2008, 10:42:21 PM
OMG i saw it! it said Allah on it!
LOL
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Post by: georgiapeach on October 23, 2008, 10:54:57 PM
Okay, nuff! puddin is going to scramble us all for messing up her spoilers! :lol3:
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Post by: gator27 on October 24, 2008, 01:16:52 PM
Here's the description for the Kazakhstan episode...
Sunday, Nov. 16 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) THE AMAZING RACE-For the first time in the history of the series, Race takes teams to Kazakhstan, where the remaining racers have a close encounter of the "bird kind" when they are forced to contend with 30,000 chickens in their path to the pit stop. Phil Keoghan hosts
Sunday, Nov. 2 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) THE AMAZING RACE-As teams race through India, Mother Nature foils one racer when a windstorm blows away their detour, and a budding romance between competing racers causes their teammates to question their focus. Phil Keoghan hosts.
How about a budding romance with Dallas and one of the Divorcees?!
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Post by: Zack. on October 24, 2008, 05:16:46 PM
Here's the description for the Kazakhstan episode...
Sunday, Nov. 16 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) THE AMAZING RACE-For the first time in the history of the series, Race takes teams to Kazakhstan, where the remaining racers have a close encounter of the "bird kind" when they are forced to contend with 30,000 chickens in their path to the pit stop. Phil Keoghan hosts
Sunday, Nov. 2 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) THE AMAZING RACE-As teams race through India, Mother Nature foils one racer when a windstorm blows away their detour, and a budding romance between competing racers causes their teammates to question their focus. Phil Keoghan hosts.
How about a budding romance with Dallas and one of the Divorcees?!
After the catty remarks next episode? I doubt it.
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Post by: Belle Book on October 24, 2008, 06:06:59 PM
Here's the description for the Kazakhstan episode...
Sunday, Nov. 16 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) THE AMAZING RACE-For the first time in the history of the series, Race takes teams to Kazakhstan, where the remaining racers have a close encounter of the "bird kind" when they are forced to contend with 30,000 chickens in their path to the pit stop. Phil Keoghan hosts
Sunday, Nov. 2 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) THE AMAZING RACE-As teams race through India, Mother Nature foils one racer when a windstorm blows away their detour, and a budding romance between competing racers causes their teammates to question their focus. Phil Keoghan hosts.
How about a budding romance with Dallas and one of the Divorcees?!
Unlikely, considering that the Divorcees annoyed Toni & Dallas with their remark about Dallas's hair. More likely it's Dallas & Starr or maybe Dallas & Sarah.
Belle Book
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Mrs Shrek on October 24, 2008, 07:15:20 PM
Everyone is assuming the guy must be Dallas....surely the Frats deserve a little love too? ;)
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on October 24, 2008, 07:23:30 PM
Not since the Blondes left, sadly... :funny:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Mrs Shrek on October 24, 2008, 08:13:01 PM
Hey I've just had a really great idea......if the Frats just miss out on winning this race, then production could team one of them up with one of the Blondes, and bring them back as a merged team for All Stars....
:lol3:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: georgiapeach on October 24, 2008, 09:25:59 PM
omg...you are a wicked wicked lady! :funny: :funny:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Mrs Shrek on October 24, 2008, 10:25:35 PM
:angel: moi?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: asamber1 on November 11, 2008, 07:09:15 PM
My Spec:
5th: Terrance and Sarah [Lose FF and Dont make it up] 4th: Ken and Tina 3rd: Dandrew [Big Blunder, they dont even finish] 2nd: Nick and Starr [They will come in first place every single leg left in the race aside from the final] Winners: Toni and Dallas
"Seasons of Firsts" -First Time Dandrew Blunder -First Parent/Child Team Wins -Most "First Places" in a row [Nick and Star would have 6 in a row(Cambodia, India, India, Kaz, Russia, Russia] and whatever other first you can think of because this is supposed to be the seasons of firsts.
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Post by: Jobby on November 12, 2008, 08:19:42 AM
I totally forgot about the "season of firsts" thingy. :groan:
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Post by: sunnyca on November 12, 2008, 03:47:06 PM
Somebody posted what is probably a completely fake results table for Amazing Race 13 on Wikipedia, which got taken down seconds later. Fairly plausible one, though! Here's the link - beware - this could be right and you might not want to know!! Although the chances that this is based on anything but guesswork is 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 :lol: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Amazing_Race_13&diff=250976477&oldid=250900084#Results
Actually, it says here they did for TAR14 also, which obviously is clearly fake since they're filming now and NOONE has any idea! But they put some time into, cooking fake names and tasks cobbled together from previous seasons! http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/the_amazing_race_13/2008_Nov_12_wikipedia_results
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 12, 2008, 03:52:34 PM
I just saw that too, sunny!
Clearly TAR 14 is a fantasy, :lol3:
And I'll just bet TAR 13 is too... ;)
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Post by: sunnyca on November 12, 2008, 04:01:21 PM
P'raps, but at least it's in line with *my* fantasy ! ;)
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 11:30:00 PM
I'm watching the insider clips and not surprising, the teams most want Dandrew in the final 3 so they can beat them. I think they will get help to get there, to the final 3 that is.
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Post by: DrAw on November 20, 2008, 08:42:04 PM
i dont know if those results will be up as for when i saw them, but it predicts the standing of the next 3 legs as:
Russia 1: 1 Toni & Dallas (U-Turn >) 2 Ken & Tina 3 Nick & Starr (> U-Turn) 4 Dandrew (NE)
Russia 2: 1. Nick & Starr 2. Toni & Dallas 3. Dandrew 4. Ken & Tina (Elim)
USA: 1. Toni & Dallas 2. Nick & Starr 3. Dandrew
ME LIKEY! meh...coulda been from anyone but sounds good to me
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on November 20, 2008, 09:13:12 PM
If you want I can go over to wiki and edit the results anyway you want them? they might ban me but oh well? wiki is NOT a good source for spoilers! anyone that has internet and can type is able to edit wiki, and there you have it!
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Jobby on November 21, 2008, 10:51:14 AM
No Toni and Dallas spotted in Portland? :'(
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: tory on November 21, 2008, 11:26:53 AM
i hope the wiaped thing is right :tup: but who no's?? i do like that ending toni dallis win love it.. i am a mom and i have a 18 yr old son, so i have been routing 4 them..nick and star r strong also, soo who no's???? :duno:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: jose on November 21, 2008, 04:26:55 PM
my spec:
Portland: Ken and Tina Toni and Dallas Starr and Nick
Andrew forgets everythng, Ken and Tina have been spotted in Portland :yess:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: Belle Book on November 21, 2008, 07:11:14 PM
Here's what I'm hoping for the finale:
1. Toni & Dallas 2. Nick & Starr 3. Dan & Andrew (lose their passports and can't get out of Russia until the other two teams are across the finish line)
Belle Book
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: AbbyNormal on November 22, 2008, 11:08:01 AM
Speculation time. Here goes...
In the Ken confessional already shown which was spoiled to be in Russia, I'm pretty sure that he says at one point that "they have to beat at least one other team". That would not be something that you would say in a final 3 confessional, so I place that interview after this leg, the NEL.
This week: NEL. Ken and Tina come in last but are spared. Thus the tearful confessional.
Next week: Toni and Dallas manage to lose their passports. They were never spotted in Portland. They are unable to continue, and the final 3 are Nick/Starr, Andrew/Dan, and Ken/Tina. If Nick and Starr already knew about Toni and Dallas, it would explain why they are not very excited at the finish mat.
Finale: Dan and Andrew take a risk on a flight, or miss a flight, and are automatically hours behind the other teams. Ken/Tina and Nick/Starr fight it out for the top spot, which is won by ... Ken and Tina. (I believe that would make them the oldest winning team, in a "season of firsts"). Dan and Andrew arrive in Portland and go downtown, but when they get to the cluebox they are told to just go to the pitstop since the race is over.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: apskip on November 22, 2008, 03:44:41 PM
AbbyNormal,
Your hypotheses are all possible. However, the context of Ken's comment is that for every Amazing Race leg a team must place above last to assure that they are eliminated. This does not mandate a NEL on leg 9 (Moscow #1).
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: puddin on November 22, 2008, 05:01:32 PM
In the Ken confessional already shown which was spoiled to be in Russia, I'm pretty sure that he says at one point that "they have to beat at least one other team". That would not be something that you would say in a final 3 confessional, so I place that interview after this leg, the NEL.
This week: NEL. Ken and Tina come in last but are spared. Thus the tearful confessional.
Next week: Toni and Dallas manage to lose their passports. They were never spotted in Portland. They are unable to continue, and the final 3 are Nick/Starr, Andrew/Dan, and Ken/Tina. If Nick and Starr already knew about Toni and Dallas, it would explain why they are not very excited at the finish mat.
Finale: Dan and Andrew take a risk on a flight, or miss a flight, and are automatically hours behind the other teams. Ken/Tina and Nick/Starr fight it out for the top spot, which is won by ... Ken and Tina. (I believe that would make them the oldest winning team, in a "season of firsts"). Dan and Andrew arrive in Portland and go downtown, but when they get to the cluebox they are told to just go to the pitstop since the race is over.
Ken says ...(and we think this is for EP10 and its looking most likely now that it is .......)
Ken: Where travels involved Tina feels like shes always right, you know at least 99.9 % of the time she feels likes shes right. We've got to have a little more give and take , shes got to trust in me when I think I know something I have a pretty strong intuition.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: mswood on November 22, 2008, 05:32:20 PM
Any of the teams could win and it be a team of first.
Nick & Starr First brother and sister team to win (on two person season), youngest racing team to win (combined age, they are the youngest two person team to race).
Ken & Tina First actually separated married team to win, oldest team combined age to win.
Toni & Dallas: First parent/Child team to win. First Mother/Son team to win.
Andrew & Dan: Dumbest team to win. First team that thinks its cool to walk instead of run that wins. :groan:
See all could be first.
Title: Re: Speculation on season 13
Post by: AbbyNormal on November 22, 2008, 08:50:11 PM
Andrew & Dan: Dumbest team to win. First team that thinks its cool to walk instead of run that wins. :groan:
:funny:
Andrew and Dan winning this thing would be the stupidest thing ever to happen on TAR.
Puddin, the part of the Ken confessional that I'm thinking of is not that clip. It is the part where he starts to tear up. I wish I could see the whole thing again, I'll have to try and find it. I just thought that in a confessional where you know you are final 3, you wouldn't say that you need to beat 1 other team to stay in it. So, I'm assuming that confessional takes place after the 1st Moscow leg (the NEL). Maybe I'm remembering it wrong.
If I had my pick, Toni and Dallas would win. I wouldn't mind a Ken and Tina win either.