Post by: puddin on April 24, 2007, 01:43:17 PM
LiquidSapphire (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg183607.html#msg183607) /AFB reports : the demanding blonde's and other contestants on DEC 16th on flight to Narita and then Honolulu.
Final 3 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg173001.html#msg173001)
3rd: Charla & Mirna
2nd: Dustin & Kandice
Winners: Eric & Danielle (?)
A blog entry (http://bettieconfettie.blogspot.com/2006/12/mele-kalikie-maka-merry-christmas-in.html) about Shipwreck beach, with a photo of an "amazing" traffic arrow.(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/th_Maui143.jpg)" Enter Shipwreck Beach. The real, live shipwreck is in the background. The arrow is there to direct teams from that reality show "Amazing Race". Apparently they were filming an episode that weekend." ( posted on Dec 21st )
introflash:
5. (http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/freelancer2k/TAR11spoiler/intro/th_05.jpg) (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/freelancer2k/TAR11spoiler/intro/05.jpg) Slowhatch: An old liberty ship on Shipwreck Beach in Lanai, Hawaii.
Race ends here (http://www.sunsetbeacon.com/archives/SunsetBeacon/2007editions/Feb07/Arboretum.html)
**On Dec. 17, the SF Recreation and Park Department closed Strybing Arboretum in Golden Gate Park from 10 a.m. to approximately 12:30 p.m. for the filming of the reality television show, "The Amazing Race."
( credits to gukfata21 @ tarflies (http://www.tarflies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=991&start=285) )
Phil: next week on the season finale of the Amazing Race..Dustin & Kandices relationship capsizes
Kandice: I have no patience for you right now.
Dustin: you're sayig a lot of hurtfull stuff right now.
Kandice: it isn't true ..you know what? its OK.
Phil: the final 3 teams, swim
Girl Voice: Are you OK?
Phil: drive, fly and run to the finish line.
Mirna: Charla...you have to run!they're going to pass us.
Phil: find out who will win the one million dollars
Charla to driver: just make it as fast as you can and take us there
Post by: puddin on April 24, 2007, 03:30:22 PM
Hello. I'm back from Australia. 24 hours and some minutes ago on Guam I met with Northwest Operations Supervisor Glenn Weber (only one "b" is correct) and his lieutenant Marie Lizama (she actually wrote and sent out the blog in December about what happened on Dec. 15 and 16 that has made Glenn a TAR celebrity). I had a 7.5 hour layover in Guam International Airport and Hakushu8, an RFF member who lives on Guam, graciously deferred to me on this.
MEETING WITH GLENN WEBER AND MARIE LIZAMA
Glenn is expecting to become a local celebrity on Guam as soon as the relevant episode airs (usually within about 10 hours after U.S. East Coast due to time difference). He got a lot of camera time when the F3 teams booked their flights to Honolulu via Tokyo-Narita on the afternoon of Saturday Dec. 16. The previous day was a big day at Guam International Airport as Uchenna/Joyce, the Guidos and Danny/Oswald all departed with Phil on CO904 through Nagoya Japan to Honolulu. Glenn told me he got a brief opportuntiy to chat with Uchenna and Joyce. Dec. 16 had Glenn as the only NW individual on the 2 ticket counters, I believe by choice since he knew what would be happening. First up was Dustin/Kandice, who booked NW 81 mid-afternoon to Narita and NW10 from there to Honolulu. Charla/Mirna actually booked the same flights through Continental's ticket counter. Last was Eric/Danielle, who had run into a NW 747 pilot who convinced them to take the 20 minute later NW73 to Narita to get the comfort of the 747. After Dustin and Kandice heard about this, they decided to change their booking to do the same. The connect time to NW10 was still quite adedquate. Their production crew of cameraman and soundman just barely made it through customs with their equipment to get on the later flight.
TV cameras at the airport caused a great deal of interest from passengers and others at the airport on both days. Recently, the local CBS station on Guam has been showing short advertising clips of some of the local TAR11 action from military bases. Glenn has not been on with Andersen Air Force Base of the Naval Base, but recent info suggests that Andersen is where the action and filming took place. I had as a seatmate from Narita to Newark today a Naval person who was not aware of any rumors about TAR filiming at the Naval Station even though she was not there at the time.
Post by: supsandalee on April 24, 2007, 03:36:31 PM
OK, enough of the B:) B:) B:) :hides
Here is the GE of shipwreck beach and a little info on it: http://lanai.aloha-hawaii.com/tours/shipwreck+beach+lanai/
"Although unsafe for swimming, wild and beautiful Shipwreck Beach remains a favorite stop among many visitors to Lanai, "Hawaii’s Most Exclusive Island." Beachcombers come for the brilliant shells and other treasures that wash up on shore."
At least we know they aren't going to make them swim out to the ship! :lol:
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Post by: puddin on April 24, 2007, 03:48:20 PM
Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2007, 04:06:46 PM
OK, I'll change the subject to Lanai. ;D :ninja Here's a drive-time map (http://www.filmmaui.com/refrence/lanai_mapdr.htm), courtesy of FilmMaui, and the picture below shows some spec spots for the shipwreck parking lot (the arrow from the blog pointed right, towards the beach). The Liberty ship is in the upper-left corner.
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Post by: Rob on April 29, 2007, 08:07:12 PM
Post by: gingerman28 on April 29, 2007, 08:12:10 PM
OR, have we been misled and the final pit stop is still in Hawaii?
Remember no one actualy saw any filming at the Strybing Arboretum in Golden Gate Park, only a report that it was closed "for the filming of the reality showThe Amazing Race" Could this be a masterful bit of misinformation and misdirection put out by TPTB.
Post by: michael on April 29, 2007, 08:13:46 PM
C/M and E/D are in sanfran and D/K are still in Hawaii I think..
Post by: mswood on April 29, 2007, 08:16:22 PM
It looks like this race will be like Season 4 with almost all activities in Hawaii then a flight to the us and then some minor stuff in SF.
Post by: Slowhatch on April 29, 2007, 08:17:28 PM
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Post by: gingerman28 on April 29, 2007, 08:23:25 PM
About the taxi cabs at the end:
C/M and E/D are in sanfran and D/K are still in Hawaii I think..
Cabs don't have to be in the same location at the same time. Could be two different sequences: taking teams from Hawaii airport to first location; and from SFO to Golden Gate Park
Post by: michael on April 29, 2007, 08:24:10 PM
Post by: mswood on April 29, 2007, 08:28:27 PM
Yes Peach, very slow for me too! I think it's getting better though!Its all a ploy to make you imagine them Jell-o wrestling with you as teh Ref. :yess:
WHY ARE D/K FIGHTING :groan:
they'll make up, I know it, and then WIN!
Post by: georgiapeach on April 29, 2007, 08:31:02 PM
Anybody else having Forum problems??
Very, very slow for me too!
Peach once you get to 34 hours of board usage the processor slows your posting time. :lol3:
Thank God! I thought it was if you went over 1500! Heeee....
Here is the probable dive site:
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Post by: puddin on April 29, 2007, 08:34:15 PM
ETA: heres my photobucket (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP13/?start=all)
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Post by: mswood on April 29, 2007, 08:37:08 PM
And yes Michael it does seem like a lot (90 minutes sounds better and better).
And we better get Phil's preview this week or we will all be dying......
Post by: michael on April 29, 2007, 08:38:44 PM
Post by: georgiapeach on April 29, 2007, 08:43:34 PM
Post by: mswood on April 29, 2007, 08:51:11 PM
I will say Eric when driving and on the beach is wearing far less then in the cab.
Hawaii and Guam are probably a bit warmer at the time of the year then SF area. So I could believe that cab shot is in the Bay area and thus the reason for more layers on both racers.
Post by: Slowhatch on April 29, 2007, 08:51:46 PM
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Post by: michael on April 29, 2007, 08:52:44 PM
in this one they have the same clothes on as the Hawaii shots but Dustin has different hair
Post by: musicman85 on April 29, 2007, 09:01:40 PM
Post by: Tyler on April 29, 2007, 09:03:29 PM
Post by: Rob on April 29, 2007, 09:16:37 PM
Post by: georgiapeach on April 29, 2007, 09:18:54 PM
Post by: michael on April 29, 2007, 09:20:47 PM
Post by: down_with_alli on April 29, 2007, 09:45:37 PM
2) I've pretty much succumbed to the fact E/D win a long time ago, seeing as: the bootlist hasn't been wrong, I don't doubt Puddin, and D/K are given a "good team that finish 2nd" edit and C/M "CRAZY CRAZY WOOOOOO" edit.
3) Unfortunately I think the finale is going to be the majority of the tasks in Honolulu/wherever they do it that isn't the final city. Which means if you fall behind in the tasks at Honolulu/wherever they do it that isn't the final city (*cough* MIRNA DIVING/SWIMMING AT THE ROADBLOCK/DETOUR *cough*) then you're pretty much screwed for the 1st and 2nd flights (hence C/M coming in 3rd :'()
Anyway, well done to C/M for getting so far anyway and keep those spoilers coming!
Post by: asamber1 on April 29, 2007, 10:12:37 PM
Everyone knew before the list who came in 4th-8th, so all the list did was give us the first three boots and possibly the last ones. It could have just been a lucky guess?
Post by: georgiapeach on April 29, 2007, 10:20:15 PM
Thanks!
Post by: puddin on April 29, 2007, 10:32:45 PM
Puddin, how sure are you of Eric/Danielle winning? What exactly is it that makes you so sure of them winning. Thanks. ;)I wasn't there at End City Tyler :waves:
Palm tree, lol
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Post by: michael on April 29, 2007, 10:34:29 PM
Dustin's hair is different there then it is while driving and fighting with Kandice
Post by: puddin on April 29, 2007, 10:41:36 PM
Aren't there palm trees in California?I know you already said that, lol.
Dustin's hair is different there then it is while driving and fighting with Kandice
ETA: San Fran weather Dec 17th 2006 (http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KSFO/2006/12/17/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA)
Temperature:
Mean Temperature 46 °F / 7 °C 49 °F / 9 °C
Max Temperature 52 °F / 11 °C 56 °F / 13 °C
Min Temperature 39 °F / 3 °C 43 °F / 6 °C
Post by: apskip on April 29, 2007, 10:58:40 PM
Aren't there palm trees in California?
MIchael D, there are many palm trees in southern California, but very few in the San Francisco area. However, those few are probably concentrated in Golden Gate Park.
Post by: georgiapeach on April 29, 2007, 11:01:26 PM
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Post by: michael on April 29, 2007, 11:04:38 PM
Post by: michael on April 29, 2007, 11:06:09 PM
ooh, thanks puddin, i was about to add a photo in but yours is better !!
I think it's interesting to have a challenge about knowing your teammate right at the end, C/M would be awesome at that, E/D and D/K I'm not so sure about.
* Dustin & Kandice have a rare disagreement which prompts Dustin to be hurt by her friend.
* Charla & Mirna vow to rely on their wit and ability to navigate airline flights in order to beat the physically stronger teams. Will the underdog team prevail?
* A final task puts to the test how well each team member knows each other. Will this put a certain team at a disadvantage?
* Find out which team will win The Amazing Race: All-stars.
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Post by: musicman85 on April 29, 2007, 11:14:36 PM
nothing new about C/M clue...they always try to gain an advantage at the airports.
I think the last clue has to do with E/D. They don't really know each other well I think. It's definetely not about C/M but it MIGHT be about D/K if they play out the whole disagreement thing in the final episode.
Post by: puddin on April 29, 2007, 11:23:39 PM
Pictures (http://www.sfgov.org/site/taxicommission_index.asp?id=45081#abc)
Post by: puddin on April 29, 2007, 11:30:10 PM
Scenic views (http://www.alohafriendsphotos.com/lanai.html) of Lanai.
Nakalele Blow Hole (http://www.hawaiiweb.com/maui/sites_to_see/NakaleleBlowhole.htm)
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 29, 2007, 11:37:45 PM
Post by: puddin on April 29, 2007, 11:46:54 PM
( thanks Kogs!!)
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 29, 2007, 11:49:24 PM
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Post by: Boingo on April 29, 2007, 11:55:20 PM
I agree, JVJ appears to be standing next to the century-old Monterey cypress in the Great Meadow. ;D
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Post by: puddin on April 30, 2007, 12:41:18 AM
I think that shot was from Hong Kong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:HKMarathonCheungTsingTunnel.jpg).nvm ...thanks Chateau :kogs
Post by: schwarzmoor on April 30, 2007, 12:43:42 AM
I think that shot was from Hong Kong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:HKMarathonCheungTsingTunnel.jpg).
Definitely. The buses shown can be another proof. No doubt on that
Post by: georgiapeach on April 30, 2007, 12:49:50 AM
Post by: gingerman28 on April 30, 2007, 09:40:25 AM
Charla has a cell phone :snicker:
That looks awfully big and fat for a cell phone these days. My guess is that this is the radio/phone belonging to the cab driver.
Post by: gingerman28 on April 30, 2007, 09:45:07 AM
web clues are up!
ooh, thanks puddin, i was about to add a photo in but yours is better !!
I think it's interesting to have a challenge about knowing your teammate right at the end, C/M would be awesome at that, E/D and D/K I'm not so sure about.
* Dustin & Kandice have a rare disagreement which prompts Dustin to be hurt by her friend.
* Charla & Mirna vow to rely on their wit and ability to navigate airline flights in order to beat the physically stronger teams. Will the underdog team prevail?
* A final task puts to the test how well each team member knows each other. Will this certain team at a disadvantage?
* Find out which team will win The Amazing Race: All-stars.
This makes it look like one final task does take place in San Francisco. An IQ bit similar to the task that put Eric into second place by the Hippies in TAR 9
Post by: gingerman28 on April 30, 2007, 09:47:21 AM
I get a very early in the morning feeling from this shot.
They (the elims) have been assembled early since TPTB don't know how long the final "intelligent" task will take after the teams arrive early from Honolulu. Also note that they all are wearing jackets as are E/D and C/M in the cabs.
Post by: supsandalee on April 30, 2007, 09:48:28 AM
"To get to the beach it is best to follow Highway 44 form Lanai City for about seven or so miles until there is a dirt road to the left. Take this and continue along it till you find yourself face to face with a parking facility near a ruined lighthouse. The beach is in front of the lighthouse. It is recommended that visitors try and utilize a four-wheel drive to make the journey as road conditions can sometimes overwhelm standard vehicles."
Post by: supsandalee on April 30, 2007, 09:49:47 AM
Charla has a cell phone :snicker:
That looks awfully big and fat for a cell phone these days. My guess is that this is the radio/phone belonging to the cab driver.
Maybe she kept that GPS because she luuuuved pressing those buttons so much. :lol:
Post by: gingerman28 on April 30, 2007, 10:00:25 AM
Shot of helicopter is of it landing at Honolulu International Airport.
Shots of C/M in the helicopter are over water - are they on the way to Lanai or returning to HNL?
The kayak that D/K are paddling in is marked ocean kayak. First shots of them are near the beach with the wreck in the distance. When they capsize they are next to the wreck.
We see D/K driving in jeep along the beach (with dry hair); also E/D driving yellow jeep along bumpy jungle road.
Interesting sequence of a rubber pontoon boat arriving at a pier: E and D (who now has a bathing suit top on and I assume a bottom under the shorts) leading Charla and Mirna up the piier. Indication is that they arrived together at the landing spot (are D/K also there but ahead of the others?)
Some confusing sequences: Beach area (some kind of boat docked behind) one of the BQ's is holding a DETOUR clue in her hand. They don't seem to know where to go.
Rocky sea shore with Charla followed by Mirna running across rocks; ship wrech on the horizon
Rocky sea shore with Dustin and Kandice coming up from behind and passing C/M
Sandy path throughdunes: Eric and Danielle lead Kandice and Dustin down path through dunes - no wreck in background
Somebody swimming or diving or whatnot.
Question: is the DETOUR either Swim or Paddle?
What time do we have flights to SF from HNL? Most likely late evening departures and early morning arrivals.
From the length of shadows at Fort Soledad it looks like there is about a two hour difference between the arrival of the BQ's in first and C/M in third. Chateau I am sure will give us exact times.
Now can anyone put this all together?
Post by: supsandalee on April 30, 2007, 10:07:15 AM
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Photobucket here (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP13/sub/?start=all)
Post by: michael on April 30, 2007, 10:21:40 AM
Post by: puddin on April 30, 2007, 10:46:23 AM
This will work for now
Post by: georgiapeach on April 30, 2007, 11:06:47 AM
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Located on the west coast of Lanai, Kaumalapau Harbor is the main harbor for the island where most fishing boats depart. The area was once a thriving and busy harbor when pineapple was king on the island. Now the harbor is quiet with only an occasional fisherman on the wharf and the Lanai Oil Company in the background.
Directions:
Take Highway 440 west from Lanai City to the end of the road. The harbor is approximately 7.5 miles out of town.
And I'm just saying: :lol3: The Lana'i Dolphin Adventure departs from slip 11 in the Lanai harbor and can be booked at the Korner Store (Dickenson and Wainea, a block inland from Front Street).
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Post by: apskip on April 30, 2007, 11:11:53 AM
FLIGHT OPTIONS HNL TO SFO
1. UA 76 departs 2105 arrives 0501
2. NW 222 departs 2200 arrives 0558
3. either of UA1040 or US8377 departing HNL 2000 or 2005 to Lihue, Kauai, both connecting to UA 4912 codeshared US6712 departing 2115 arriving 0520
4. probably too late to do any good, DL632 departs 2325 arrives 0729
Post by: gingerman28 on April 30, 2007, 11:18:26 AM
GMAN, this one's for you:
FLIGHT OPTIONS HNL TO SFO
1. UA 76 departs 2105 arrives 0501
2. NW 222 departs 2200 arrives 0558
3. either of UA1040 or US8377 departing HNL 2000 or 2005 to Lihue, Kauai, both connecting to UA 4912 codeshared US6712 departing 2115 arriving 0520
4. probably too late to do any good, DL632 departs 2325 arrives 0729
Just like I thought: early evening depart and early morning arrival. So that gives them mucho time to complete tasks in Lanai and then all three teams bunched together on the race to San Fran.
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 30, 2007, 01:46:35 PM
They said in the preview that the teams had to swim and drive...
So what do you all think about this for the drive part?
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The Munro Trail is a nine mile dirt jeep trail that runs along the highest ridge on the island of Lanai in Hawii. The trail twists and turns as it runs along the ridge and it ends at the top of 3370 foot Mount Lanaihale, which is Lanai's highest point.
You need a four-wheel drive vehicle to drive the Munro Trail, and the road can be very muddy. It is also possible to hike the Munro Trail, but it is a hot and difficult hike on steep, uneven terrain. The trail should not be attempted, either on foot or in a 4-wheel drive vehicle, when it has been raining heavily in the mountains.
The Munro Trail was named after New Zealander George Munro, who was the manager of the Lanai Ranch. He planted pine trees on Lanai in the 1950's as part of his Lanai reforestation and watershed program.
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Post by: puddin on April 30, 2007, 02:27:24 PM
Looks like all teams have to Kayak out to the Shipwreck probably to get a clue which looks like it comes first.
The we see E/D and C/M on the pantoon ( Kaumalapau Harbor )and perhaps its the BQ's that we see/hear in the underwater cave" Are you ok?" is it a blow hole? I Dunno? so maybe they are the detours?
Gman suggests the Helo is seen at the Honolulu International Airport. Lets see if we can match it up..
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 30, 2007, 02:55:16 PM
I had been wondering if it made more sense to get the teams to Maui first and then chopter them to Lana'i but looks from that match that they go direct.
I did an ID search on the N-registration # on the copter and found this:
And note the charter prices!
Edited to show that I just saw that Slowhatch beat me to it! HERE (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12083.msg186484.html#msg186484)
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Post by: apskip on April 30, 2007, 04:19:33 PM
Based on the geography of the Hawaiian Islands, there are a number of possibilities. I consider the least likely to be direct from Honolulu Airport by helicopter to anywhere on Lanai. The options I think are more likely are:
1. Scheduled flights from HNL to LNY(Lanai airport) are by Island Air departing at 0635, 0855 and 0955 arriving LNY 30 minutes later. Take the helicopter from there to any the first task.
2. Scheduled flights from HNL to OGG(Maui airport) are by Aloha, Hawaiian, IslandAir and Mesa Airlines. there are 11 flights from 0600 to 0930, clearly many more than possible direct to Lanai. All take 30 minutes. Take the helicopter from there to any first task on Lanai.The distance appears to be about 30 miles to Shipwreck Beach.
3. Scheduled flights from HNL to MKK(Molokai airport) are by Island Air at 0610, Pacific Wings at 0710, Island Air at 0820, Pacific Wings at 0840, and Pacific Wings at 0850. All take 30 minutes.Take the helicopter from there to any firwst task on Lanai. the distance appears to be about 30 miles to Shipwreck Beach.
Post by: mswood on April 30, 2007, 04:57:19 PM
Post by: Boingo on April 30, 2007, 05:27:45 PM
Great match peach! The Lanai harbor is perfect for the pic of E/D on the dingy thingy. :lol: I think the other two pictures (my earlier post) are at a different location though. The Lanai harbor doesn't appear to have an stacks/towers that are in the background shot of the BQ's. Also the shot of E/D running by a large tank doesn't appear to have other tanks immediately behind it like at Lanai harbor.
??? Just thinking out loud, but could the "large tank" be a "water tank" (as I have seen water tanks that look like that). ??? If you buy that, then this quote from a tourist web site's Lanai petroglyphs driving directions may add to the confusion. :angel:
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Another petroglyph reserve is located in the southern part of Lanai. From Lanai City, head toward Manele Bay on Manele Bay Road, then turn left on the first dirt road. The petroglyphs are just beyond the large water tank on the slopes of the hill.
Post by: georgiapeach on April 30, 2007, 06:18:10 PM
Is it this tree?
Chateau--I don't think it is that tree--I have a vague memory of it being not so close to the conservatory--maybe this will help?
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Oh, well--have another!
It was definitely in the meadow....
What we do for Chateautimes!
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Post by: Boingo on April 30, 2007, 06:59:18 PM
360 degree view of Strybing Arboretum main lawn (http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/CentralCalif/SanFrancisco/GGParkEast/StrybingMainLawn_FS.html). I beleve that's Sutro Tower (atop Twin Peaks) in the background.
Note: requires Quicktime plug-in
Post by: gingerman28 on April 30, 2007, 07:41:00 PM
We have all three teams interacting with each other at one time or another:
Eric and Danielle and Charla and Mirna coming up the pier from the boat together
Eric and Danielle leading Dustin and Kandice down the sandy path through the sand dunes
Dustin and Kandice passing Charla and Mirna on the rocky path toward the beach with the wreck in the BG
So it lookis like the three teams are going to be pretty much even throughout the episode
And probably all will be on the same plane to San Francisco
Post by: georgiapeach on April 30, 2007, 07:43:59 PM
I surrender, Boingo! :lol:
But Quicktime is out for me right now....
So--where's the doggone tree?? :funny:
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Post by: Boingo on April 30, 2007, 07:51:21 PM
:faint: :bow:
I surrender, Boingo! :lol:
But Quicktime is out for me right now....
So--where's the doggone tree?? :funny:
:lol: Chateau was close (orange circle), but I think it's the next one over. (white arrow)
note: Centuty-old cypress has an oval shaped canopy, much wider than the small building in the background, So arrow is actually pointing to large oval shaped treetop.
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Post by: puddin on April 30, 2007, 08:30:04 PM
The task in San Fran is most likely the detour (the facts about your partner). Season 9, 8, 3 all ended with puzzles that were roadblocks in the final destination city (though in season 9 you could talk to your partner.
Dustin has a Detour clue ..mswood, maybe you meant Roadblock?
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 30, 2007, 08:33:55 PM
Want to play water tank now? :rotf:
I'm thinking maybe this is near where they get their cars? Airport? Harbor? We need to find a wall in front of a tank!
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Seems like if we are seeing them exiting the zodiac at the harbor--then they are likely to be arriving. Maui--Lanai trips arrive at this harbor.
Or they could be doing the dolphin watching or sea turtle excursions! :lol3:
Possibilities:
Honolulu to Maui by helicopter, Maui to Lanai by zodiac (nice and scenic and we could see spinner dolphins! and explains seeing the teams leaving the zodiacs)
Honolulu to Lanai by helicopter, with another zodiac excursion. (harder to make this one fit)
Honolulu to Lanai by helicopter, and a zodiac excursion back from Shipwreck beach? (there is a round the island trip--but the climbing over the rocks shots means they arrived by car...)
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A bouy clue next to the Liberty ship. (the water doesn't seem so deep; in one of the caps it looks like a BQ is standing up outside the kayak)Good catch Slowhatch! Is that from the online promo? I'm having an awful time with the resolution (:;)
Post by: Boingo on April 30, 2007, 09:09:15 PM
BTW, what's those dome shaped thingies behind the wall ??? space aliens ? :rotf: :lol: :lol3:
sorry....I couldn't resist....I defer to the Hawaii experts. :angel:
:o Oooh..oooh...just noticed the tank in your airport picture, peach. :yess:
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 30, 2007, 09:37:06 PM
I found something today that said the waters around the wreck were not suitable for swimming as the waters are too rough!
Who's good at GE? I tried to look at that tank at the airport but as ususal GE hates me--all I got was a big cloud!
Post by: Uncle Bill on April 30, 2007, 09:53:22 PM
Post by: georgiapeach on April 30, 2007, 10:00:33 PM
I'd really like to see that wall and Boingo's R2D2 thingys behind the wall.
If they really fly into the airport by helicopter or whatever--then we need to figure out what they are doing at the harbor with the zodiac boats--all the way on the other side of the island from the wreck!
Post by: puddin on April 30, 2007, 10:20:21 PM
:tup: Right, it's the web promo. Here's the bouy from a different viewpoint.OK but in the Kayaks they aren't wearing safety helmets just vests but in the caves whatever they are...I think, lol.
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Post by: puddin on April 30, 2007, 10:25:25 PM
Dive gear? and yeah I think its Dustin ..you can see her Nike swoosh.
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 30, 2007, 10:29:20 PM
Post by: puddin on April 30, 2007, 10:30:18 PM
Nice Slowhatch! So maybe they are just going after a buoy clue? Near the shipwreck?Heres a shot (http://local.live.com/default.aspx?cp=20.785611|-156.951418&style=h&lvl=14&v=1) peach fwiw
I found something today that said the waters around the wreck were not suitable for swimming as the waters are too rough!
Who's good at GE? I tried to look at that tank at the airport but as ususal GE hates me--all I got was a big cloud!
is this it?
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Post by: puddin on April 30, 2007, 10:33:29 PM
Maybe it isn't safety helmets---but snorkel gear instead? ;D:ya3: lol ..I don't like the water.
Post by: georgiapeach on April 30, 2007, 10:40:14 PM
I'm a water baby! :diver:
What do you think about the GE shot?
It needs to have road/runway>>trees>>wall>>tank.
That's got it all but is the road/runway too far away from the tank?
Help! :lol: I'm terrible at GE!
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Post by: mswood on April 30, 2007, 11:25:58 PM
You two keep fighting it out, good job :nanaYeah I did, I even typed it correct later in the sentence. I am a dumbass.The task in San Fran is most likely the detour (the facts about your partner). Season 9, 8, 3 all ended with puzzles that were roadblocks in the final destination city (though in season 9 you could talk to your partner.
Dustin has a Detour clue ..mswood, maybe you meant Roadblock?
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The only other puzzle type event was a general task in season five's final.
Post by: michael on April 30, 2007, 11:27:03 PM
Post by: puddin on April 30, 2007, 11:31:31 PM
Michael what about the clue?
* A final task puts to the test how well each team member knows each other. Will this certain team at a disadvantage?
I meant to add this..I was looking for small harbors around Lanai for that shot of D/K with the detour clue in hand.
Manele, small harbor (http://www.vthawaii.com/LANAI/QTVR/SmallBoatHarbor2.htm) ( quicktime needed )
Post by: michael on April 30, 2007, 11:34:13 PM
I'm thinking that's going to be a task kind of like TAR8 and TAR9 where it is right at the finish line and once it is completed you run straight in....woah, it would suck if Eric lost that way again
Post by: puddin on April 30, 2007, 11:36:08 PM
haha, I was joking about the cigar shop :snicker:Well thats the only type challenge it could be? Too bad too sad for the YQ's :happy:
I'm thinking that's going to be a task kind of like TAR8 and TAR9 where it is right at the finish line and once it is completed you run straight in....woah, it would suck if Eric lost that way again
Post by: michael on April 30, 2007, 11:38:18 PM
no but honestly, I'm excited for that last challenge, I didn't like last seasons finale with the "run to the random giant cube and then take a taxi all the way to the finish line"
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OK, unless C/M decide to switch Detours then one of these tasks has to be a "random" task because Charla doesn't have any more RB (she told Mirna in leg 12 that she wanted to save the last RB for her)
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just a thought:
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OK, unless C/M decide to switch Detours then one of these tasks has to be a "random" task because Charla doesn't have any more RB (she told Mirna in leg 12 that she wanted to save the last RB for her)
:-\ Is Charla on a surfboard?
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Oh I see Chateau is here, he's the GE pro
But it does not show up in GE! Under a cloud. But the shot you have up there looks solid. Stuff's moving kind of slow here (:;) connection. I'll look it over some more for the "click".
Post by: puddin on May 01, 2007, 12:50:20 AM
Mirna wears the neck thingy too fwiw..
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2007, 12:53:30 AM
Somewhere I saw an interview about them with a former racer.
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Those neck things are the waterproof mikes the racers have to wear when working around water.Well now you tell me :lol:!!
Somewhere I saw an interview about them with a former racer.
Post by: Slowhatch on May 01, 2007, 01:01:20 AM
(I think I remember that interview: it was about the dentist (Blake?) and the mikes worn during the water polo task)
Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2007, 01:06:23 AM
Found these Zodiac boat's from Captain Steve's and Trilogy--two of the popular companies. But neither are quite right.
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 01, 2007, 01:19:45 AM
Nice work Peach!
And I agree with Boingo's tree pick. The early morning estimate still looks good. That is to say it is consistent with news story about the place being closed from 10:00 to 12:30. Actually the shot looks earlier than 10 am.
Time estimates will be coming in as the days go by. :nitenite:
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I think the water tank shot is a solid match
Nice work Peach!
But it wasn't just me--it took a village! :lol: Boingo, and sups and Uncle Bill and puddin and Slowhatch and Chateau and--who did I forget?
That means we can place the teams at the airport then (you didn't happen to notice what time it was as they ran by, did you Chateau? :lol3:)
So maybe helicopter to Lanai airport, then drive yourself to harbor? or Munro trail? or Shipwreck Beach?
More zodiacs--Ocean Riders is the one known for circumnavigating the whole island. And I think I saw the Blue Water ones on Lanai looking for dolphins...
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Post by: apskip on May 01, 2007, 07:39:50 AM
Here are the logical flights from Lanai back to Honolulu after the tasks have been completed(tasks are designed to assure that no team will reach Lanai airport before the 1540 departure of the next earlier flgiht):
HA3825 1800 1830
HA3849 1805 1835
WP35 1810 1840
WP1655 1955 2025
WP37 2030 2100
The first three flights(and maybe the 4th) above definitely fit with this HNL to SFO flight: UA 76 departs 2105 arrives 0501
If that flight is overbooked, then teams would be wise to take this combination: either of UA1040 or US8377 departing HNL 2000 or 2005 to Lihue, Kauai, both connecting to UA 4912 codeshared US6712 departing 2115 arriving 0520
The last two flights above will have to take either of: NW 222 departs 2200 arrives 0558 OR DL632 departs 2325 arrives 0729
Based on past experience, World Race Productions will have designed this leg to assure that it will be a 3 team race in San Francisco. That means to me that all teams will be on HA3825 or HA3849 or WP35 out of Lanai. All will be also on UA76 out of HNL. In all cases they will be taking slots preserved for AR11 F3 teams. I don't think the producers wanted to experience a repeat of Lyn/Karlan arriving in the New York metro area crucial hours behind. they have worked too hard throughout AR11 to bunch teams that they will not screw up now and let any team get away from the pack or be left behind unless they seriously underperform.
Post by: gingerman28 on May 01, 2007, 08:22:44 AM
:jumpy: Hi everyone I was looking at the picture of the airport in reply 85 and look into the left hand cornor and see the brown tank and how the trees look and then look at the picture in reply 91 and see the brown tank and the trees. Looks like they could be a match since the parking lot would be on that side of the runways and hangers. ???
Another possibility is that they are running toward the admin building with the red roof to the right to get number for the order of chopper flights to Honolulu. Looks like is late in the day, rather than early in the morning which would be the case if they were arriving from Honolulu.
Post by: gingerman28 on May 01, 2007, 08:41:56 AM
Nice Boingo!
Want to play water tank now? :rotf:
I'm thinking maybe this is near where they get their cars? Airport? Harbor? We need to find a wall in front of a tank!
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP13/29Apr0013.jpg)
Seems like if we are seeing them exiting the zodiac at the harbor--then they are likely to be arriving. Maui--Lanai trips arrive at this harbor.
Or they could be doing the dolphin watching or sea turtle excursions! :lol3:
Possibilities:
Honolulu to Maui by helicopter, Maui to Lanai by zodiac (nice and scenic and we could see spinner dolphins! and explains seeing the teams leaving the zodiacs)
Honolulu to Lanai by helicopter, with another zodiac excursion. (harder to make this one fit)
Honolulu to Lanai by helicopter, and a zodiac excursion back from Shipwreck beach? (there is a round the island trip--but the climbing over the rocks shots means they arrived by car...)
Now it looks to me like we have Danielle and Eric running at the Lanai Airport from the arriving helicopter to the rental jeeps. They have all their clothes on and are carrying their heavy back packs (stupid to have this much gear still with them this late in the race.) I do not know the orientation of the airport, but the shadows are long which suggests early morning. When we see Danielle leaving the ocean going Zodiac she is now stripped down to her bikini top and is not carrying a backpack. If they were arriving from Maui for the first time, she would have her backpack with her. This looks like the end of some task which both E/D and C/M did together from the same Zodiac. So teams arrive in Honolulu and get on helicopter for short ride across the ocean to Lanai. The shot of the helicopter at HNL could be taking off, not landing.
And the shot of Charla and Mirna in the helicopter with them doing the Hula seems to be something you would do when first arriving in Hawaii and not something when you are racing to catch the last flight home.
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Dive the hottest spots! Visit Cathedral Caverns on Lanai or the Wall at Molokini. (http://www.divemaui.com/)
This photo shows what the Cathedrals at Lanai looks like. The depths here are in the sixty foot range. You are looking into the entrance of the Cathedral. The Cathedral is so big inside that 20 divers at one time can enter. There are several openings to the rear which can be used for exits. As the light shines through the openings it gives a Cathedral looking effect to the inside of the lava formation. A light may be taken down to explore the ceiling of the Cathedral. There is much color and growth to see. Also one may find an eel or two living here. This is one of our popular dives from Maui. Many divers visit the Cathedral each year. Once the inside is explored you will exit out the rear and explore the outside of the lava formation where an abundance of Marine life can be seen. This dive is fairly easy and Open Water divers who wish to explore the large lava formation can experience this dive as well as Advanced Divers and above. This is a daily 45 minute trip by boat from Lahaina Harbor. As you enter the water you will make a decent to about 25 feet to the top of the lava formation and than follow the dive guide to the opening which is in 55 feet of water. Here you will experience the excitement of The Cathedrals
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2007, 10:39:51 AM
Because if is the same one--they have sea caves!
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Trips to the island of Lanai invite superb snorkeling and spinner dolphin encounters are quite common. Visit a sea cave with us for an unforgettable experience!
http://www.hawaiioceanrafting.com/
Could someone tell me where to find the screencaps/thumbnails for the buoy and cave scenes? Thanks!
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Post by: Boingo on May 01, 2007, 10:47:15 AM
Is that the same as this one Boingo? What an excellent match!
Because if is the same one--they have sea caves!QuoteTrips to the island of Lanai invite superb snorkeling and spinner dolphin encounters are quite common. Visit a sea cave with us for an unforgettable experience!
http://www.hawaiioceanrafting.com/
:angel: ummm....IMHO, rafts appear to be different.... ;) Maybe someone will match my raft with a diving business, cause I can't. ???
Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2007, 10:59:05 AM
What? No dive company that we can email? :groan:
puddins Cathedral Site also had this:
The south side of Lanai is the real reason this island is the dive destination of the underwater explorers and seasoned divers. Here you will find lava formations, caverns, arches, tunnels, swim-thrus, pinnacles and plenty of marine life as they have all the holes and crevasses in the reef to make their home. Few dive operators travel here so it is less crowded than other destinations.
I would love to go to that Cathedral dive--it would be beautiful.
But have the teams ever done scuba? Aside from Adam's closed dive? We did have the rumor of a diving bell task in Mauritius but real scuba would take some orientation. The Dustin cap looks like snorkel gear to me...
But I am missing some screencaps (cave, buoy) if anyone can point me in the right direction.
Post by: Boingo on May 01, 2007, 11:05:04 AM
But have the teams ever done scuba? Aside from Adam's closed dive? We did have the rumor of a diving bell task in Mauritius but real scuba would take some orientation. The Dustin cap looks like snorkel gear to me...
I agree, a 60' dive is 20 meters (or about 2 atmospheres). Too deep for beginners. I vote for snorkeling in a blue grotto/cave thingie.
Post by: puddin on May 01, 2007, 11:18:38 AM
Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2007, 11:22:17 AM
Now I see 'em--and I like 'em! :lol:
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Post by: puddin on May 01, 2007, 11:32:39 AM
They are in my photobucket (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP13/?start=all) and start at 00005-1-2007, then end at the top of the page.
Post by: Boingo on May 01, 2007, 11:43:14 AM
TheCAB (http://www.thecabhawaii.com/) web page. Hear the Jingle (http://www.thecabhawaii.com/contact/) on the Contact Us page. :happy:
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2007, 12:08:27 PM
Do you want me to move them here?
They are in my photobucket (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP13/?start=all) and start at 00005-1-2007, then end at the top of the page.
I'm good now thanks! I just couldn't find them in your album before--but I've got them now and I can use the new BIG ones in the Finale threads! I like the big ones--old eyes and all that!
Okay--now we know they take a cab in Hawaii--why? Where? (and don't you just love the phone with the lei? Heee....)
Honolulu airport to helicopter site? zodiac site?
Surely they don't need one on Lanai becuase they drive themselves, right?
So why do they need a cab in Honolulu?
And Mirna looks pretty relaxed there too.
Post by: Boingo on May 01, 2007, 12:13:57 PM
Okay--now we know they take a cab in Hawaii--why? Where? (and don't you just love the phone with the lei? Heee....)
Honolulu airport to helicopter site? zodiac site?
Surely they don't need one on Lanai becuase they drive themselves, right?
So why do they need a cab in Honolulu?
Mirna doesn't appear to be in a hurry (checking her watch), maybe a HoO, as they appear to be waiting in front of a fence/gate? Maybe first clue in Honolulu?
Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2007, 12:23:22 PM
If they were doing a scheduled flight they would just stay put.
Maybe they have already pulled #'s there for heli flights or something--or like you say it is HoO at the heli place.
But seems like they would be rushing a little more.
Anybody with any other ideas?
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Post by: puddin on May 01, 2007, 02:37:36 PM
here are more pictures
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Post by: puddin on May 01, 2007, 02:39:11 PM
Kaumalapau Harbor - Another paved stretch of Highway 440 which, like the one to Manele Bay, cuts through miles of what used to be pineapple fields and is now hay fields, connects Lanai City with this main island port. Pineapples, vehicles and freight are shipped out from this harbor. Other than this activity the simple harbor is of little interest to outsiders, but the dramatic views of the sea, high bluffs, and jagged cliffs on the stretch of the coast are worth the six-mile ride from town.
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Post by: Uncle Bill on May 01, 2007, 02:52:32 PM
I had fun today looking up sites on Lani can't wait to go. :jumpy: See you guys in about 3 hrs off to watch grandkids play ball.
Post by: puddin on May 01, 2007, 02:56:51 PM
Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2007, 03:13:20 PM
Well puddin, that was a very.......thorough job! I think we can safely say that is the harbor--now we just have to figure out where they went!
Uncle Bill--try this one: ocnraftn@maui.net
That's Hawaii ocean Rafting and might be possible. The best thing would be to email a copy of Boingo's pic to your contact and see if they know who the company is (see reply #137).
Here is the pic ready for email: http://img15.imgspot.com/u/07/120/17/OceanRaftingandSnorkeling.jpg
Good job on getting a reply at all! :lol:
Post by: puddin on May 01, 2007, 03:18:07 PM
:lol3::umn: ..yeah i'm out of the loop :lol:. All I keep thinking is how to get my BF to buy me Windows Vista before X-Mas :groan:
Well puddin, that was a very.......thorough job! I think we can safely say that is the harbor--now we just have to figure out where they went!
Post by: michael on May 01, 2007, 03:20:48 PM
:lol3::umn: ..yeah i'm out of the loop :lol:. All I keep thinking is how to get my BF to buy me Windows Vista before X-Mas :groan:
Well puddin, that was a very.......thorough job! I think we can safely say that is the harbor--now we just have to figure out where they went!
Windows Vista is great because you can print screen in Windows Media Player, my laptop has it!
Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2007, 03:36:05 PM
:lol3::umn: ..yeah i'm out of the loop :lol:. All I keep thinking is how to get my BF to buy me Windows Vista before X-Mas :groan:
Well puddin, that was a very.......thorough job! I think we can safely say that is the harbor--now we just have to figure out where they went!
Mother's Day is May 13th!
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on May 01, 2007, 03:37:08 PM
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Post by: puddin on May 01, 2007, 03:39:38 PM
My first thoughts were that the BQ's look lost.
Post by: michael on May 01, 2007, 03:43:52 PM
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on May 01, 2007, 03:46:23 PM
Post by: gingerman28 on May 01, 2007, 04:08:47 PM
Post by: puddin on May 01, 2007, 04:34:51 PM
So it looks like when the teams get to Kaumalapau Harbor they will find the DETOUR CLUE. Both K/D and E/D seem to have them in hand. So how did they get here? Is this the first location they have to find on Lanai? And, what are the two tasks?They get there by the Zodiac right?
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2007, 04:37:02 PM
It could be possible that they drive themselves to Shipwreck Beach--
do the kayak out to the wreck thing (all teams therefore task?)
and then take a zodiac to the southern part of the island for the sea cave/buoy/snorkel task, (surf or snorkel for Roadblock?)
then continue in the zodiac to the Harbor
then go somewhere? Munro trail?
But which is Detour and which is Roadblock?
OR maybe detour is Dive or Drive--take zodiac to dive site vs drive up Munro trail??? I kinda like this one!
Post by: puddin on May 01, 2007, 04:46:08 PM
Guam to Honolulu -->HofOperation
Fly to Lanai
task all teams/ Drive -->Shipwreck-->clue
Detours Drive/Dive/Swim/ stand up paddle surfing? /Zodiac's not sure other water tasks mixed in there this is the confusing part.
Helicopter back to Honolulu
Honolulu to San Fran Strybing Arboretum
Roadblock end city..how well do you know our partner per clue.
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on May 01, 2007, 04:52:19 PM
Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2007, 05:11:05 PM
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Detours Drive/Dive/Swim/ stand up paddle surfing? /Zodiac's not sure other water tasks mixed in there this is the confusing part.
Well great! Not much left to work on then! :lol3: :rotf: :lol3:
E has the clue, D looking at a map? Then to what?
So far we have for possible detours/roadblocks:
Seen:
Snorkel at buoy--is this the same as the sea cave?
Paddle surf
Unseen but mentioned:
Drive ??Munro Trail?? mentioned in all the guides as a drive/tour thing
Kayaking at Wreck seems to be for everyone...
We know teams are at airport at some point>>running>>maybe to cars?
This would make arrival at Lanai from say Mauii by Zodiac less likely.
Zodiac therefore just transport--Shipwreck Beach to Harbor??
Help please Chateau! ;D
If we knew which comes first--airport or wreck or harbor it would help!
Post by: Boingo on May 01, 2007, 05:18:47 PM
...note, Charla is wearing same "bathing suit" she wears at shipwreck.
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Post by: puddin on May 01, 2007, 05:26:33 PM
...note, Charla is wearing same "bathing suit" she wears at shipwreck.
Because its the only suit she has :lol:? (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/3yqnio2.gif)
Post by: michael on May 01, 2007, 05:27:04 PM
Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2007, 05:52:59 PM
This just occurred to me--do we know for sure that that shot of C/M and the zodiac is at our Harbor? Because it could be another location for surf board? Might not be the harbor?
Post by: puddin on May 01, 2007, 06:18:21 PM
OR is it the Caves/Cavern which I think it is ?
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Post by: Boingo on May 01, 2007, 06:23:11 PM
Why is Dustin wearing pants under water ?
Because she's wearing pants above water? :lol:
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Post by: michael on May 01, 2007, 06:25:48 PM
Post by: mswood on May 01, 2007, 06:29:44 PM
Why is Dustin wearing pants under water ?
Michael demands, DEMANDS Dustin without pants both above and under the water.
Post by: puddin on May 01, 2007, 06:31:08 PM
For the experienced diver looking for the best Lana`i has to offer. This trip travels all the way to the remote Kaumalapau Harbor. Skin Diver Magazine called Kaumalapau Harbor one of the top 10 unknown dives in
Hawaii. Since these are drift dives we are able to combine two sites in one dive. Monolith is a unique lava pinnacle sitting in deep water, and Menpachi Caves has numerous swim throughs and has multitude of aquatic diversity.
Menpachi Cave Video link (http://www.greendiversproductions.com/extendedhorizons.htm) fwiw.
Post by: Boingo on May 01, 2007, 06:44:50 PM
D/K on ocean kayaks are over by the shipwreck, D/K & EDEE are also at Harbor.
OK, :carryon:
Edited to add: Added Menele Bay as possible TAR location.
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Post by: puddin on May 01, 2007, 06:52:48 PM
:touche: :lol:Why is Dustin wearing pants under water ?
Because she's wearing pants above water? :lol:
Did someone beat me to this? Kaumalapau Harbor Virtual tour (http://www.vthawaii.com/LANAI/QTVR/KaumalapauHarbor2.htm) ( quick time needed)
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Some info so I don't have to keep going back and forth.
Kaumalapau Harbor
Shipping, Fishing, Not Much Swimming
End of Kaumalapau Hwy
Lana`i, HI 96763
Location: South
Hours of Operation: 24 hrs
Description:
Although it's often included in listings of Lana'i beaches, this place is primarily used for commercial shipping. Because of the shipping traffic, motorized water activities are not permitted, and only a few people choose to swim in the harbor. However, this is a popular place for fishermen, both local and tourist. Unlike chartered sport fishing, shore fishing on the harbor offers an opportunity to relax, let the mind wander, and enjoy the view.
Manele Bay Harbor
Busy Public Harbor
Manele Rd
(Southern shore)
Lana`i, HI 96763
Location: South
Hours of Operation: 24 hrs
Description:
Kaumalapau Harbor handles commercial shipping, but Manele Bay Harbor handles all traffic from excursions, charters and yachts. The Expeditions ferries chug into the harbor five times daily, and several fishing and snorkel tour boats go in and out on a regular basis. Shuttles carry people from the harbor to Manele Bay Hotel and Lanai City regularly. The little beach in the bay's left corner is a popular snorkel and diving spot, although there are better places to swim and sunbathe.
Shipwreck Beach
Popular Sunbathing Beach
Keomoku Rd
Lana`i, HI 96763
Location: Day Trip
Hours of Operation: 24 hrs
Description:
The same rough waves that gave this beach its name make it a dangerous place to swim. However, the rusting hulks offshore draw plenty of sightseers. One unfortunate Liberty ship ran aground a few hundred feet out and remains there in its entirety. Other bits and pieces of old ships are all around the reefs. This is a good place for walking, beachcombing and exploring. An interesting group of petroglyphs are nearby, and anyone with enough motivation can hike all the way up the coast to Polihua Beach.
Cathedrals - Dive Site
Famous Dive Site
(offshore South Lana'i)
Lana`i, HI 96763
Location: Day Trip
Hours of Operation: 24 hrs
Description:
Of all the dive sites off the shores of Lana'i, this may be the most famous. It has a second dive site named after it. It is actually an enormous lava tube (100 feet long and about 20 feet high). The reflection of sunlit blue water in the tube looks remarkably like a stained glass window. The effect has inspired comparisons to a Renaissance-period Catholic church. Inside the tube live dozens of unusual little fish and crustaceans. The waters outside the tube are also busy with the activity of sea-dwelling creatures.
Post by: puddin on May 01, 2007, 07:10:21 PM
Adding Boingo's GE ...
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Post by: puddin on May 01, 2007, 07:34:16 PM
Booby Prize..
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Post by: michael on May 01, 2007, 07:37:30 PM
They are swimming in the clothes?! Does this mean no bikini?! (:;)
Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2007, 07:44:25 PM
puddin--I take it back! That does look like some kind of helmet+diving mask+I don't see the snorkel....
Post by: puddin on May 01, 2007, 07:47:40 PM
:badhorse:
Scuba Channel
Post by: mswood on May 01, 2007, 07:52:15 PM
Post by: Boingo on May 01, 2007, 08:24:04 PM
Added Manele Bay to Lanai_locations GE map in previous posting above
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2007, 08:45:21 PM
Thanks for tracking that down--it has been nagging at me! :tup:
Okay:
E/D and BQ's at Harbor--on land looking for what? Cars to go driving? Port related task? Or is this after their detour of cave swimming?(doubt)
C/M at Manele Beach for what? Their Detour of paddle surfing?
But what is the Roadblock?
One of the swimming things we see? .......or the Drive thing? .................or something else?
In reading other tourist activities I keep reading about archery and clay shooting. And then there is the cliff jumping competition....oh yeah--and golf....
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Post by: puddin on May 01, 2007, 08:50:30 PM
:-\ Just throwing this out there.... C/M may be at the Manele Bay Boat Harbor :angel:Thats the Small Boat Harbor that I posted yesterday (http://www.vthawaii.com/LANAI/QTVR/SmallBoatHarbor2.htm) , they don't give us enough to match it :meow:
Added Manele Bay to Lanai_locations GE map in previous posting above
Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2007, 09:02:35 PM
Post by: Boingo on May 01, 2007, 09:02:59 PM
Oh Good Job Boingo! :jumpy: :yess: :jumpy:
Thanks for tracking that down--it has been nagging at me! :tup:
Okay:
E/D and BQ's at Harbor--on land looking for what? Cars to go driving? Port related task? Or is this after their detour of cave swimming?(doubt)
C/M at Manele Beach for what? Their Detour of paddle surfing?
But what is the Roadblock?
One of the swimming things we see? .......or the Drive thing? .................or something else?
In reading other tourist activities I keep reading about archery and clay shooting. And then there is the cliff jumping competition....
peach, I think the "driving" challenge is getting from one location to another in Lanai. Looking at the GE map I posted in Reply #180, there just happens to be major roads (?) between the TAR locations on Lanai. Miss a road, and you have to drive the circumference of the island. Evil, evil BVM. :lol:
:meow: oh, excuuuuuuse me, puddin..... :rotf:
Post by: Slowhatch on May 01, 2007, 09:18:35 PM
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Trilogy Ocean Sports Adventure Center is located at Manele Small Boat Harbor.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2007, 09:24:02 PM
I've been stuck on the Munro Trail because everyone talks about the drive--but it does take 2-3 hours so maybe that's too long anyway.
The roads everywhere here are reportedly challenging--I read a blog that talked about 2 jeeps getting stuck in the mud trying to get to Shipwreck Beach.
So if driving isn't a true task but just something to make their lives tough--C/M are sunk! :lol:
Do we think that the sea/ocean kayak we see the BQ's in is a task for everyone?
What about the red kayak we see Mirna in--different task or not?
And I like your Manele Beach find....
When will we get Phil's preview? He wouldn't desert us this last week would he?
Post by: michael on May 01, 2007, 09:30:15 PM
Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2007, 09:35:29 PM
How did they work that Flag thing in season 9? was that a real roadblock? I can't remember....
Just checked: Detour in 9 was that drill holes in ice and push shack or deliver medical supplies (unable due to weather)--2 walk via snow tasks to find clues--and the flag task was a Roadblock. summary here (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race9/shows/ep13/race/story/?id=1)
Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2007, 10:07:08 PM
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And could Mirna be rowing/pulling Charla on that surfboard? :lol:
Post by: michael on May 01, 2007, 10:09:51 PM
Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2007, 10:18:21 PM
That looks like Danielle to me. Could she be doing a RB, we know she has to do the RB.
:pfight: You just convinced me the Roadblock is in SF! Make up your (and my) mind!! :lol3:
Post by: michael on May 01, 2007, 10:22:21 PM
I'm serioulsy not looking forward to sunday night at around 8 50 PM, at least you will be at TARcon anxiously awaiting the arrival of the racers...I'll be at home....possibly crying (probably not since I don't cry, but I'll sure be putting a lot of these on here: :'( )..or a lot of these :lol3: :wohoo: :jumpy:
Post by: puddin on May 01, 2007, 10:24:08 PM
Its eric and hes doing what the other teams are doing ..kayak shipwreck task
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Post by: puddin on May 01, 2007, 10:42:13 PM
Use the shift key to zoom the VRs, Puddin. :jam: source page (http://www.visitlanai.com/mammal.htm)Good eye Slowhatch :ninja and Boingo for you :kuss:QuoteTrilogy Ocean Sports Adventure Center is located at Manele Small Boat Harbor.
Trilogy’s mid-week snorkel & sail is perfect for the guest who wishes to sleep in and still experience the very best that Lana`i’s ocean recreation has to offer. Following a tasty island style lunch at the Hale O Manele Pavilion, guests board one of Trilogy’s spacious sailing catamarans for a 3 ½ hour ocean adventure to some of the islands most unspoiled snorkel sites. Lana`i is also home to one of Hawaii’s largest school of Spinner Dolphins and our Lana`i Captains and Crew can usually find these playful mammals. All masks, snorkels, fins and flotation gear are provided. Following the return to Manele Harbor ....( but you already knew that )
Trilogy Video (http://mauisilv.server320.com/trilogy.wmv)
http://www.sailtrilogy.com/
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Post by: gingerman28 on May 01, 2007, 10:44:33 PM
So it looks like when the teams get to Kaumalapau Harbor they will find the DETOUR CLUE. Both K/D and E/D seem to have them in hand. So how did they get here? Is this the first location they have to find on Lanai? And, what are the two tasks?
Post by: gingerman28 on May 01, 2007, 10:45:59 PM
From these vidcaps it looks like Dustin and Kandice have paddled the kayak out to the liberty ship wreck and are pulling a clue off the side of the ship. So the task is to paddle out through the surf and retrieve a clue, then back to the beach and off again somewhere else.
Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2007, 11:18:46 PM
What VR's are we zooming and where please? :lol:
Post by: Chateau d If on May 01, 2007, 11:25:06 PM
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Post by: Boingo on May 01, 2007, 11:26:23 PM
What VR's are we zooming and where please? :lol:
It's over here (http://www.vthawaii.com/LANAI/QTVR/SmallBoatHarbor2.htm), peach. puddin posted this on previous page (Manele Bay/Trilogy). :snicker:
Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2007, 11:38:53 PM
Hi Chateau! Puddin and I have a list all ready for you--do you have some time? Isn't it nice to be so needed?? :kissy:
Here's the first--it is the airport we think--early AM or PM??
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Post by: Slowhatch on May 02, 2007, 01:17:28 AM
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 02, 2007, 01:25:49 AM
First things first here.
This shot was taken here between 10:43 and 11:01 am (assumes December 15th)
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Post by: mswood on May 02, 2007, 01:29:51 AM
Thanks Peach.Well we see the priority on that shot.
First things first here.
This shot was taken here between 10:43 and 11:01 am (assumes December 15th)
Post by: Chateau d If on May 02, 2007, 01:36:38 AM
This shot was taken between 11:17 and 11:45 am (assumes December 15th)
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 02, 2007, 02:27:42 AM
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Post by: makz3d on May 02, 2007, 08:31:04 AM
This shot was taken at 12:55 pm
Snort
Chateau, just based on watch I think the time is 11:55 AM. Also, could you or someone else check the mat chats for watch times? For some reason every time I try to watch a video (even ABC) my computer shuts down.
For the C/M mat chat Mirna keeps using her watch hand to push her hair behind her ear. Around the 2:50 time of their chat I think a pretty clear picture can be found of Mirna's watch face. After I realized about the watches I tried to re watch the videos and after a few seconds my computer quits. (Of course my computer geek of a son says he doesn't know what the problem would be.)
Post by: georgiapeach on May 02, 2007, 08:55:57 AM
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Chateau, just based on watch I think the time is 11:55 AM.
(makz3d--shhhh....he's teasing mswood who spent all of last episode not convinced that Eric's watch was an hour slow!)
I noticed all those Mirna watch shots too but couldn't capture a pic from a video. Oh, well....maybe someone can?
Post by: gingerman28 on May 02, 2007, 09:09:47 AM
Thanks Peach.
First things first here.
This shot was taken here between 10:43 and 11:01 am (assumes December 15th)
Just noticed something I had not seen in previous vidcaps, and that looks like a chopper taking off behind Kandice. So this is when the BQ's first arrive in Lanai, and she is opening up what we will see later is the DETOUR clue. Now we have a start time on Lanai it looks like.
Scratch all that, we're still back in Guam. But I thought we were trying to figure out times etc. in Hawaii.
Post by: georgiapeach on May 02, 2007, 09:17:33 AM
Post by: Chateau d If on May 02, 2007, 09:29:50 AM
I think we need to get Eric a new watch. His is missing its hour hand :rotf:.
Glad you noticed the time. I wanted to see if Puddin saw it! :snicker:
Post by: puddin on May 02, 2007, 10:17:09 AM
Post by: georgiapeach on May 02, 2007, 10:27:18 AM
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Glad you noticed the time. I wanted to see if Puddin saw it!
Based on past experience? Well.....
I thought Mirna said her alarm didn't work anymore and Charla's watch had died early on in the race. She's still checking her watch at the taxicab in Hawaii.
Post by: Chateau d If on May 02, 2007, 11:22:17 AM
Wait, nevermind, the ratio does not change with view location. :groan:
But at least the circled spot is where GE says the road ends. So I'll go with that. :lol:
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Post by: Boingo on May 02, 2007, 11:40:43 AM
I'm not sure where they got their jeeps. There's only one rental agency--and one gas station--on the island (see here (http://www.hawaiiweb.com/lanai/html/sites/Dollar_rent_a_car.html) and the VR here (http://www.vthawaii.com/LANAI/QTVR/GasStation.htm)), and the standard issue seems to be orange/yellow (rust?).
:js: Looks like you can rent a "silver" jeep in Lanai. :snicker:
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Post by: makz3d on May 02, 2007, 12:20:46 PM
Makz3d, about the watch/time, I am standing by the 12:55 pm time based on shadows. It's just that when I saw that the shadow calcs were ending up at near something:55 I realized that the watch was good for the "55" part.
I think we need to get Eric a new watch. His is missing its hour hand :rotf:.
Glad you noticed the time. I wanted to see if Puddin saw it! :snicker:
Feel like I'm being a pest. I was just watching the show again and paused it several times and now it definitely looks like the time is 11:30 and I feel it's quite clear. In the picture posted I kind of thought there was a hand straight down from the 12. I can copy it to the VCR and check it out frame by frame (tomorrow) and that usually picks up things that the pause of DVR doesn't always show.
However, it is possible Eric's watch is wrong.
Post by: puddin on May 02, 2007, 12:59:08 PM
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Post by: lulu1212 on May 02, 2007, 01:31:10 PM
Also, Mirna's voiceover of "they're going to catch us" is a little more frantic sounding than the tone she uses when she is telling Charla to run on the beach, as if it had been dubbed over the beach scene. If she says this later in the race, it might indicate that all the teams are fairly neck and neck in SF.
Thanks for all the research, everyone =)
Post by: Chateau d If on May 02, 2007, 02:21:08 PM
The hand at the "55" is clear in every frame.
I get fooled by watch shots more often than I can count. There are second hands, extraneous reflections, date windows, decorations on the face, or just really tiny hands. B:)
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HELP!
Post by: puddin on May 02, 2007, 04:11:53 PM
apskip's awesome flight info.
FLIGHT OPTIONS HNL TO SFO (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12083.msg186590.html#msg186590) and more info here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12083.msg186627.html#msg186627).
PUTTING IT ALL TOEGETHER ON FINAL FLIGHTS: LANAI TO HONOLULU TO SAN FRANCISCO (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12083.msg186723.html#msg186723)
More from apskips, here.! (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11991.msg185677.html#msg185677) << Guam flights
Post by: Chateau d If on May 02, 2007, 04:35:42 PM
Airwise doesn't like us anymore. I saw that Mswood could not get info there.
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Post by: Boingo on May 02, 2007, 05:35:18 PM
I'll play later when I'm not at work--but you might want to try the airport air traffic control tower first... ;)
:js: hmmm.....she's good! :lol: Is Tower #2 a match? ???
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Post by: apskip on May 02, 2007, 06:56:45 PM
Thanks Puddin, but still, HELP Apskip, we need the takeoff and landing times.
Airwise doesn't like us anymore. I saw that Mswood could not get info there.
OK, I went back to my post ULTIMATE TIMELINES on page #68 of SPOILERS thread for this. This information is more liekly to be accurate than anything I could pull today off of www.nwa.com or www.amadeus.net:
NW 81 departs HKG 1545 arrives NRT 1835 or NW 73 departs HKG 1615(or 1610, depending on who you believe) arriving NRT 1900
NW10 departs NRT 2010 (or 2030, again, depends on who you believe) and arrives HNL 0730 to 0825 (depending on who you believe).
Post by: gingerman28 on May 02, 2007, 07:19:12 PM
:-\ OK, I'm bored. Looks like we need another challenge till Sunday. Any ideas what the "white" structure behind Mirna & TheCAB taxi somewhere on Oahu is? ??? :angel:
OK, what is Mirna doing in the front seat of a taxicab? Where is the cameraman? There are also other shots of Mirna outside of this same cab looking at her watch. Waiting? Charla is there, but no driver. So is this then a set pickup time she arranged but no cab driver in sight?
Post by: michael on May 02, 2007, 07:26:58 PM
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some of the grey of the car cuts into Mirna's shirt..
Post by: puddin on May 02, 2007, 07:27:03 PM
Post by: Boingo on May 02, 2007, 08:17:49 PM
I think Boingo cropped that picture Gman ,,it sure makes it look like Mirna is in the front seat! Almost like it was faked in a photochop.
:rotf: :lol: Cropped and zoomed, but not chopped. Full size pix is over in the "puting it all together forum". Do your homework, folks, before you claim a "conspiracy theory". I guess everyone else is bored too. Too much time, too little spoiling left to do. ;)
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 02, 2007, 11:01:22 PM
:happy: This view matches nicely. Hickum AFB Control Tower Thanks for the hint, peach. :jam:
I spent way too much time in Hawaii airports and harbors yesterday with not even a suntan to show for it! :lol:
Nice match on the picture Boingo!
The Hickum AFB thing threw me at first but apparently the Int. airport and Hickum share a runway?
Still confused as to why C/M seem so relaxed--there must be an HoO somewhere there--maybe for the helicopters?
Could some one explain how the dateline works for us here? Do they gain 12 hours? I'm a little lost trying to figure out if they will be here tomorrow or yesterday?? :lol3: Mostly to see if they got some extra rest or not.
Mirna's clothes don't match with the beach shots do they?
Post by: Boingo on May 02, 2007, 11:20:46 PM
:happy: This view matches nicely. Hickum AFB Control Tower Thanks for the hint, peach. :jam:
Mirna's clothes don't match with the beach shots do they?
I think you're on to something, peach. Mirma's clothes (next to TheCAB in Honolulu) don't match the helicopter vidcap, but she is wearing the same "green" jacket (?) in the cab that everyone thinks is in S.F. Also Mirma's hair is very "poofy", like she just had a short rest before starting the final dash to S.F. (or did she just get off a plane from Guam looking so fresh). B:) :groan: :-\ Very interesting, but confusing.
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Post by: michael on May 03, 2007, 12:05:50 AM
Post by: georgiapeach on May 03, 2007, 12:40:58 AM
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Mirna's clothes don't match with the beach shots do they?
I think you're on to something, peach.
Heee...I'm taking lessons from Michael.
Wardrobe check please Michael!
Is this Guam or Hawaii?
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 03, 2007, 01:35:21 AM
The AM/PM ambiguity comes from it being an altitude measurement.
Both possibilities are supported by way the docks fanout in different directions.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 03, 2007, 09:47:02 AM
Now we are getting somewhere....
E/D at Lanai airport running about 10+AM
This would fit with apskip's arrival times of about 8:30 if they have to clear customs here (arriving via NRT)
D/K and C/M are running to Shipwreck beach together, suggesting first task of the day.
If Chateau has time to confirm these shots--we can start to figure how to place the Detours time-wise! :happy:
* any of the running to the Shipwreck shots in puds pics (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP13/)
*E/D at the Harbor found here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12083.msg186829.html#msg186829)
*D/K on ground at the Harbor found here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12083.msg186779.html#msg186779)
*We have thanks to Chateautimes--C/M exiting their zodiac between 11:05 and 11:27 am or between 1:20 and 1:42 pm.
I don't think we can do Charla on the surfboard yet because we don't know where she is...
* C/M at the taxi (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12140.msg186756.html#msg186756) (tower shot here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12083.msg186991.html#msg186991))--thanks to Boingo kmz all ready for you!
and we have an outline!
Thanks Chateau--that's as pulled together as I can make it! Anybody else with timesaver pics for Chateau??--he has to pack you know! :lol:
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2007, 09:54:03 AM
Post by: michael on May 03, 2007, 09:59:18 AM
peach - we also have the shot of E/D and D/K running together somewhere on a beach - I wonder where that fits in...
Post by: apskip on May 03, 2007, 10:11:42 AM
Post by: georgiapeach on May 03, 2007, 10:21:41 AM
So when they were booking flights in Guam on Dec16--was that really Dec 15 our time?
Thereby allowing tasks in Hawaii Dec 16 our time
And on to the Finale Dec 17? (sorry--a little peach confusion going on :lol:)
The teams don't really have a day somewhere to rest up--in Hawaii? Is it all monopoly-money make believe time?
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2007, 10:38:19 AM
Phil preview <MAYBE in one of these links..
IGN (http://media.tv.ign.com/media/826/826377/vids_1.html)
Yahoo (http://tv.yahoo.com/the-amazing-race-all-stars/show/40557;_ylt=AgnbH6EQzVk3HDxlnZk5LYcbqdEF)
TV.com (http://www.tv.com/the-amazing-race/show/6686/videos.html?tag=subtabs;all_video)
celebrityspider (http://www.celebrityspider.com/news/may07/article050307-9.html)
cbs4denver search video library (http://cbs4denver.com/video)
MSN search (http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?f=/64&g=1007afe0-1d73-48cd-ae76-4eb6259fcddf&p=&t=&rf=http://tv.msn.com/tv/series/the-amazing-race-all-stars&fg=)
Post by: gingerman28 on May 03, 2007, 11:45:14 AM
We have the following scenes:
Charla and Mirna running on rocks with the ocean in the BG
Dustin and Kandice also running on rocks and passing C/M with Shipwreck in the BG
Eric and Danielle running down path toward beach, D/K follow. No ship in background.
Question: are these three scene related as the teams approach Shipwreck Beach for the first task?
If they are, then this would mean that approaching the Shipwreck task Eric and Danielle are first, followed by the BQ's, and C/M bringing up the rear.
The task seems to be to find a ocean kayak, paddle out to the wreck, and find a clue envelope hidden on the sides of the ship (we have had similar but different tasks in the past)
Post by: iargyrop on May 03, 2007, 12:41:44 PM
Post by: georgiapeach on May 03, 2007, 12:52:56 PM
Never too late to post around here!
But are you puddin in disguise? You are sharing the same avatar :lol:
Post by: Big Papi on May 03, 2007, 12:59:49 PM
:welcome2:
Never too late to post around here!
But are you puddin in disguise? You are sharing the same avatar :lol:
:lol: Somebody messin' with the nics again ???
Post by: georgiapeach on May 03, 2007, 01:08:48 PM
Welcome back BigPapi! Be sure to bring ALL your nics to TARcon! :happy:
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2007, 01:09:33 PM
You guys :D NO I am me, lol!!
Post by: Big Papi on May 03, 2007, 01:13:24 PM
OMG--I'm seeing triplets! :lol3:
Welcome back BigPapi! Be sure to bring ALL your nics to TARcon! :happy:
Even the banned ones ??? :lol3:
I forgot to thank you...my bad :-[ ..Thank You :tup:
Post by: georgiapeach on May 03, 2007, 01:20:53 PM
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You guys NO I am me, lol!!Are you SURE? Prove it! :lol:
And BigPapi: I have the perfect TARcon outfit for the banned one here (http://img15.imgspot.com/u/07/122/15/carmenmirandacostume.jpg) :jumpy:
Post by: Big Papi on May 03, 2007, 01:23:29 PM
QuoteYou guys NO I am me, lol!!Are you SURE? Prove it! :lol:
And BigPapi: I have the perfect TARcon outfit for the banned one here (http://img15.imgspot.com/u/07/122/15/carmenmirandacostume.jpg) :jumpy:
OMG roflmao...it's Chiquito Banano :lol3: It was banned during AR9 ... :lol:
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2007, 02:04:16 PM
How can I prove it? :lol:QuoteYou guys NO I am me, lol!!Are you SURE? Prove it! :lol:
And BigPapi: I have the perfect TARcon outfit for the banned one here (http://img15.imgspot.com/u/07/122/15/carmenmirandacostume.jpg) :jumpy:
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2007, 02:05:44 PM
Post by: supsandalee on May 03, 2007, 02:08:24 PM
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2007, 02:14:08 PM
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Post by: michael on May 03, 2007, 02:18:52 PM
I find it kind of annoying that the press release and Phil's preview completley ignore Eric and Danielle and make it seem like it all comes down to C/M and D/K. What misdirection (:;)
Thanks for the caps Puddin!
aww...our last Phil preview :'(
Post by: georgiapeach on May 03, 2007, 02:29:55 PM
I heard one of the BQ's say "are you deaf?!"
I don't think we got an inch more of location footage darn it all--except maybe cab/car scenes?
iargyrop--hmmm--is it an anagram or am I just dense today? More than usual I mean??
Thank you real puddin for the preview! :flowers:
Post by: michael on May 03, 2007, 02:32:45 PM
*really off topic* I just read that last May TARcon people found out that TAR10 would begin filming soon, maybe some of you can snoop around this TARcon and see what you can find.
Post by: georgiapeach on May 03, 2007, 02:41:40 PM
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Peach - that's Mirna saying "are you deaf"
My bad--you are right.
Post by: georgiapeach on May 03, 2007, 03:18:33 PM
If so, then the Honolulu to Lanai helicopter and directly to Shipwreck beach is probably correct. And I agree with whoever said upsteam that their hula looks like welcome to Hawaii happy dance.
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Post by: michael on May 03, 2007, 03:30:47 PM
Post by: georgiapeach on May 03, 2007, 03:53:42 PM
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2007, 03:57:22 PM
Post by: georgiapeach on May 03, 2007, 04:32:22 PM
It's official--I need to get some new glasses just for here--who can see that tiny? :lol: Now once I enlarge it 500%--I see! I see! :lol3:
At least I'm not seeing triplets anymore!
Post by: gingerman28 on May 03, 2007, 04:48:44 PM
Is that Mirna on the beach with the same top as in the helicopter?
If so, then the Honolulu to Lanai helicopter and directly to Shipwreck beach is probably correct. And I agree with whoever said upsteam that their hula looks like welcome to Hawaii happy dance.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP13/10.jpg)
We have seen an earlier screencap of Eric and Danielle running across a parking lot (pine trees and water tank in BG) which we believe is part of the Lanai Airfield. So the teams most likely take a helicopter hop (not Charla and Mirna going through a happy-time hula hula) and then pick up the rental jeeps to drive to Shipwreck Beach:
We have the following scenes:
Charla and Mirna running on rocks with the ocean and shipwreck in the BG
Dustin and Kandice also running on rocks and passing C/M with Shipwreck in the BG
Eric and Danielle running down path through the sand dunes toward beach, D/K follow. No ship in background.
Question: are these three scene related as the teams approach Shipwreck Beach for the first task?
If they are, then this would mean that approaching the Shipwreck task Eric and Danielle are first, followed by the BQ's, and C/M bringing up the rear.
The task seems to be to find a ocean kayak, paddle out to the wreck, and find a clue envelope hidden on the sides of the ship (we have had similar but different tasks in the past)
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Post by: joemike on May 03, 2007, 05:52:38 PM
Post by: michael on May 03, 2007, 05:53:58 PM
The list was posted - and that was it, no comment on the F3 or anything, all speculation began AFTER the list was out but, we already knew the f5, f4, and f3 before the list came out.
Welcome to RFF by the way! :js:
Post by: joemike on May 03, 2007, 06:05:20 PM
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Puddin! We both deleted our posts LOL :groan:
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2007, 08:45:57 PM
OOPS, for some reason I thought that shot of E/D was at an airport and the shot of D/K was at a different location, my bad!hush let Chateau do his thing :bow: :crown
Puddin! We both deleted our posts LOL :groan:
:lol:
Post by: michael on May 03, 2007, 08:50:57 PM
Post by: gingerman28 on May 03, 2007, 08:53:52 PM
Charla and Mirna are seen by a taxicab at what has been identified as Honolulu Airport. But if they are waiting for a chopper hop to Lanai then something is wrong since although Charla is wearing the same white shift, Mirna at the taxi cab has on a green shirt over a black topper. This is the same outfits we saw when they were getting ready to leave Guam (in a hotel lobby it looks like). But when C/M are on the chopper, Charla still has the white shift, but Mirna now has a green sleeveless body clinging thing on (hell, I don't know what they call it). So, it looks like the two scenes are not related. Somewhere Mirna changed clothes before the chopper hop. When and Where? Ideas?
Post by: Chateau d If on May 03, 2007, 09:05:40 PM
Peach, some ways back (after I got the time for it)you referred to the E&D airport shot as HNL. I'm not even sure where now. But I remember seeing that.
I hope someone can sort out/compile the clothing issues. We have so much water action here you can expect a lot of outfit changes.
And just a red-flag-of-misdirection: in the BQ fight sequence, they are initially headed towards the sun, then in the last part they have the sun pouring in on the lhs. Seems cobbled to me.
And, on the beach run shots, wouldn't you band up your hair when you realize you have a long run to make. Maybe the end of the road caught the BQs by surprise and they hadn't put their hair up yet. The hair-down part of the running is right next to the end of the road. The other shots are farther along towards the ship. :umn:
Post by: michael on May 03, 2007, 09:09:50 PM
I doubt it's going to be big - some people are thinking that this "fight" is why they might lose.
Post by: georgiapeach on May 03, 2007, 09:47:13 PM
Remember when we saw the Mauritius unaired spoiler video? There was a lot of hair tying up going on while the teams were being miked etc so I'm not worried about the hair either.
G-man--you are almost there. We think airline to Honolulu--chopper to Lanai (yes the one with the hula dance}--drive to Shipwreck Beach--run to water/along beach--kayak to wreck to get clue--on to Detours--looks like E/D and BQ's are in the same place at the Kaumalapau harbor and C/M at a different harbor Menele.
The taxi shot is still not timed--but I think it is on their way to catch the evening flights to SF--remember that they will have had prob at least 3-6 hours to freshen up.
Here it is --it was Slowhatch-- here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12083.msg186847.html#msg186847)
Post by: Chateau d If on May 03, 2007, 10:17:22 PM
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E/D at Honolulu airport running about 10+AM
I've got them running at the Lanai airport at that time!
Post by: Chateau d If on May 03, 2007, 10:18:56 PM
Note that the distance from the airport is less than 4 miles
It looks like teams land in Lanai
Go to the dock at Kaumalapau Harbor
Take a zodiac to Manele Bay
Get jeeps and drive to the shipwreck
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 03, 2007, 10:28:11 PM
It was when you wrote this:QuoteE/D at Honolulu airport running about 10+AM
I've got them running at the Lanai airport at that time!
EEK! Of course it is Lanai--I'm hurrying too much!
Post by: Chateau d If on May 03, 2007, 10:31:20 PM
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 03, 2007, 10:40:21 PM
Then they get passed.
This sequencing makes it possible to eliminate the PM option for Charla & Mirna at the dock where they have gotten off the zodiac. Use
This shot was taken between 11:05 and 11:27 am
BTW, the time comes from a shadow line across somebody's left breast. But it's not who you may be thinking. :snicker:
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 03, 2007, 10:50:24 PM
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2007, 10:51:09 PM
Like maybe they stopped to read the clue then pulled their hairback while reading then ran for the kayaks, yeah I can see that happening.
And, on the beach run shots, wouldn't you band up your hair when you realize you have a long run to make. Maybe the end of the road caught the BQs by surprise and they hadn't put their hair up yet. The hair-down part of the running is right next to the end of the road. The other shots are farther along towards the ship. :umn:
Work it Chateau :wohoo:
Post by: Boingo on May 03, 2007, 10:54:14 PM
And we see them running to the shipwreck in their street clothes...... :angel:
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2007, 10:58:02 PM
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2007, 11:12:53 PM
(http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6549/04may0013ve6.th.jpg) (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=04may0013ve6.jpg) Lobby? we should be able to find this?
(http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6057/04may0009dr9.th.jpg) (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=04may0009dr9.jpg)
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(http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6901/04may0011nu0.th.jpg) (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=04may0011nu0.jpg)Hickam Air Force Base, Maui
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Post by: michael on May 03, 2007, 11:14:25 PM
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 03, 2007, 11:18:38 PM
I am confused too though--I really had it in my mind that the wreck was first.
How else can we make this fit?
You know, each team could helicopter to Maui and then zodiac to the respective harbor and then drive to the wreck.
But how do we explain the running past the water tower shot? Are we 100% SURE that that is on Lanai?? Quick--let's look at Maui!
All the tour boat folks are based on Maui and ferry people over there to Lanai in zodiacs every day.
Post by: georgiapeach on May 03, 2007, 11:25:44 PM
Back to the drawing board!
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 03, 2007, 11:32:54 PM
Poor imaging array :'(
I bet it needed a rest after that.
The camera was just tilted with the Kayak. I can't get much from the shot since it is from a wide angle camera and those always trick me. If there was a landmark on the shore or in the profile of the island that may be useful...hmm We could pull a solar azimuth based on the line fron ship to landmark.
Peach, I initially thought the wreck was first too. But the times are coming in with their own agenda! The darkened bulkhead on the wreck is a very strong indicator of a minimum possible time.
And yes, I am 100% sure you nailed the water tower (or fuel tower?) as being at the Lanai airport.
Post by: georgiapeach on May 03, 2007, 11:44:27 PM
Then I really think that the teams choose ONE harbor to go to and maybe they have to do something when they get there--we still have to explain Charla surfing and that Manele Harbor has a kinder gentler beach that would be good for that.
The BQ and E/D Kaunalapau (SP?) harbor is more of a working harbor.
Map so we remember where we are:
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Post by: Boingo on May 03, 2007, 11:54:41 PM
What about thet bouy thingie with D/K (in pants & helmet). Where is that? Probably not the shipwreck task, as they only have to paddle out to the ship, and snag the clue off the side of the boat. Lots-o-tasks in the finale. :o
Post by: Chateau d If on May 03, 2007, 11:58:58 PM
Thanks to Slowhatch's good idea.
I used a dark canyon that is shown in GE and seems to be directly under the Sun.
That and the approximate location of kayak going under gives solar azimuth.
I think you're right guys, I jumped the gun on the drive to the shipwreck. :groan:
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 04, 2007, 12:10:10 AM
The kayak is at the wreck--why doesn't that time still fit?? I could see that kayak thing easily taking a minimum of an hour with those rough seas--remember TnT pulling the boat? They were out there for more than 4 hours!
See how this works--
Manele Bay for C/M: surf board thingy
Kaumalapau (I'm never going to learn to spell that! :lol:) for E/D and BQ's: swim cave/buoy thingy--I like it!
So how do they get to the Harbors?
How does this work?
Honolulu>>Helicopter to Lanai airport>>run to jeeps?>>jeeps to one of the two harbors?>>do water tasks at each?>>drive to Shipwreck Beach?>>kayak to wreck>>back to airport where you have plenty of time to fly to Honolulu and then freshen up for evening flights to SF
Post by: Chateau d If on May 04, 2007, 12:23:41 AM
Post by: puddin on May 04, 2007, 12:25:44 AM
BQ's capsize
Charla can't row...
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Post by: michael on May 04, 2007, 12:27:53 AM
LMFAO, puddin I love that screencap :P
Danielle looks so happy :lol3:
Post by: puddin on May 04, 2007, 12:32:11 AM
I think thats what brings the fight on between the BQ's
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Post by: michael on May 04, 2007, 12:35:25 AM
be careful puddin...she's coming to use your make up without asking you!
Post by: puddin on May 04, 2007, 12:48:11 AM
:hides
Although David and Jeff were in third place at the end of the episode, they did not finish the race. They received a clue in Hawaii telling them the race was over and that Reichen & Chip won.
eta: I'm just joking!! :pfight:
Post by: red_sox on May 04, 2007, 12:52:10 AM
I think that D/K were maybe coming first, but then whilst kayaking they mess up big time, with it capsizing etc.. (when i kayak capsizes it CAN fill with water and take ages to set straight again)
Then they fall behind Eric and Danielle, and possible Charla and Mirna, and Kandice loses it at Dustin. "It's over..."
Why would they say it's over if the fight wasnt about anything important. I think they are referring to "it" as in "our chance at winning" is over.
Post by: michael on May 04, 2007, 12:54:15 AM
red_sox,
i think Kandice's "it's over" is in regards to their fight or their friendship (something often said in a heat of the moment argument)
Regardless of what happens in the Kayak, I'm guessing all teams catch up to each other at one point or the other in the finale.
you best be puddin, 1st or 2nd (hopefully 1st) are great in my eyes, but third, no way :knuckles:
Post by: iargyrop on May 04, 2007, 01:00:11 AM
Post by: georgiapeach on May 04, 2007, 01:00:35 AM
I suspect a VERY close race to the Finish Line.
So far we have Detours and race task for all to get clues (shipwreck) but no Roadblock, which makes me think that the End Task "How well do you know your partner" could be the Roadblock--similar to the flags in Season 9. And could take place right at the finish line in the meadow at the Arboretum. TPTB may have wanted to avoid another run all over the hills of SF knowing that that would put C/M at a serious disadvantage.
C/M would logically do the best on this, esp if Mirna does it.
BQ's next--they probably heard a lot about each other in the pageant bios.
E/D at a disadvantage here as they share very little history.
Post by: georgiapeach on May 04, 2007, 01:03:32 AM
I never meant to create confusion with the avtar. I, like some people here am a fan of Danielle and Eric and I foudn this avtar and used it without checking if it was already in use. Agin I am sorry for upsetting or confusing people.
No No! Don't worry! You gave us a great afternoon of entertainment as *ahem* one of the others has been having great fun lately having new names and avatars. We are glad you are here---and puddin changes her pic every couple of days anyway! :lol:
Post by: puddin on May 04, 2007, 01:21:17 AM
I never meant to create confusion with the avtar. I, like some people here am a fan of Danielle and Eric and I found this avtar and used it without checking if it was already in use. Again I am sorry for upsetting or confusing people.LQQK we are both here at the same time and to think I was just going to sleep :ninja!! Hello again argyrop, they were just having fun with us thats all, you are more than welcome to use that avatar :hearts:
eta: OH NO she left :groan: :lol3:
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Post by: apskip on May 04, 2007, 08:12:57 AM
The probablity that Dustin/Kandice lose a huge enough amount of time in a kayak spill is quite low. Even if they do, they have other flights out of Lanai with connections in Honolulu that will put them one to two hours behind but not totally out depending on how diffidult the MEMORY challenge is.
Post by: georgiapeach on May 04, 2007, 08:42:33 AM
I was thinking that the BQ spat in the car could just as easily be after the swimming/buoy task as after the kayak task.
Are we very sure that E/D are holding Detour clues and not RB clues at the Harbor? (Trying to be sure SF task is a RB)
And does Kandice's hair look wet at the bottom here? Because with the new times--everyone would have done a water task already and theoretically should have wet hair.
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Post by: michael on May 04, 2007, 09:46:27 AM
Post by: Big Papi on May 04, 2007, 10:14:22 AM
If Kayaks are last then thats good with me because E/D are in the lead at this point.
BQ's capsize
Charla can't row...
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Off topic somewhat but thought that I would share this since it has to do with kayaking. Our family went on vacation to my birthplace Vieques Island, a tiny island south of Puerto Rico. If only they had done this here http://www.biobay.com/
We did the biobay "tour" in the same kayaks used in the race and though none of us capsized we did swim in the bay. It was easy getting out of the kayaks and into the water but some of us had a HELL of a time getting back in....myself included. It was hilarious. Hopefully Eric learned something from that experience to put it to use in Hawaii.
http://www.vieques-island.com/index.shtml
Check out our beaches :'(
Post by: Boingo on May 04, 2007, 10:27:11 AM
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 04, 2007, 10:52:26 AM
Don't forget about MAPS! (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11464.msg185001.html#msg185001) too--good maps there.
From the person who originally posted the spoiler:
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It'll be interesting to see if traffic will play a key role in final outcome. Traffic around the area is horrible on Sundays. GG Park streets are closed to cars on Sundays so the surrounding streets are usually congested, a lot of construction going on in and around the park, and the main expressway (19th Ave) from SFO is usually backed up for several miles. Public transportation from SFO would be quicker.
Post by: gingerman28 on May 04, 2007, 11:34:24 AM
Mirna is a quick change artist:
At Guam hotel desk (booking flight to NRT? - earlier post had them getting their own reservation) wearing green shirt over black body shirt.
At Honolulu with Taxicab, still wearing the same outfit
On Helicopter flying to Lanai. Now wears new green halter type top. Charla meanwhile has now on her black with flowers swim suit.
On Rocks running toward shipwreck, Mirna still wears her green top. Charla in black swimsuit over long pants
On the kayak; hard to tell since top is covered by red lifevest
At dock getting off Zodiac, now wearing pink bikini top. Charla still in black swimsuit.
Time guess: Shot of Mirna's watch on helicopter seems to read 11:35.
D/K and E/D are with the detour clue at the harbor; both teams looking around for something or some kind of landmark
Nice shot of D/K and E/D high-fiving on an aircraft. Looks like the kind of plane which they would take from Guam to NRT rather than a 777 or 747. NW flight 81 was a 737 (3 x 3 seating) NW Flight 73 was a Airbus 330 (3 x 3 seating). Neither flight was a 747. Flight from NRT to HNL was a 747-400 and arrived in HNL at 7:40AM December 16 The pilot's reference to a 747 may have been in regards to flight to HNL. Looks like they are celebrating that they are way ahead of C/M not knowing that C/M made different flight out of Guam but all three teams will hook up together in NRT for fllight NW 10 to HN L.
Post by: gingerman28 on May 04, 2007, 11:51:33 AM
Are we very sure that E/D are holding Detour clues and not RB clues at the Harbor? (Trying to be sure SF task is a RB)
I'm 100% sure that K/D are holding a DETOUR clue: you can see the double arrow. Eric holding a yellow card along with his Amazing Race envelope. No red card at all which would be case of Roadblock. So, yes, both teams are lookiing for something in connection with a DETOUR. Whatever it is, neither team is racing off to go somewhere to do something as is the usual case of a Detour.
Post by: gingerman28 on May 04, 2007, 11:54:55 AM
Thanks Boingo!
Don't forget about MAPS! (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11464.msg185001.html#msg185001) too--good maps there.
From the person who originally posted the spoiler:QuoteIt'll be interesting to see if traffic will play a key role in final outcome. Traffic around the area is horrible on Sundays. GG Park streets are closed to cars on Sundays so the surrounding streets are usually congested, a lot of construction going on in and around the park, and the main expressway (19th Ave) from SFO is usually backed up for several miles. Public transportation from SFO would be quicker.
Would this be still true at 5:30AM on a Sunday morning? The final ROADBLOCK task probably also take s place in Golden Gate Park, withing running distance of the final mat (a la TAR 9 at Red Rocks.
Post by: tigress131 on May 04, 2007, 01:39:16 PM
DANIELLE & ERIC FOR THE WIN!!! :hearts: :happy: I LOVE THEM!
Post by: gingerman28 on May 04, 2007, 02:15:05 PM
Arrive by helicopter, pick up Jeep
Paddle Kayak out to ship wreck and remove clue from side of ship.
Dive at bouy to retreave clue
Blue Grotto dive
Paddle while standing on a surfboard
Drive Jeep along sandy road
Ride Zodiac from somewhere to somewhere.
Post by: joemike on May 04, 2007, 02:17:01 PM
Post by: puddin on May 04, 2007, 02:41:35 PM
Of coruse I'm not sure where this is? I suppose one of you will figure it out quickly though?
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Post by: supsandalee on May 04, 2007, 03:48:33 PM
What time is it Chateau :lol: ??
Of coruse I'm not sure where this is? I suppose one of you will figure it out quickly though?
Where is Phil you ask? In my dreams confessing his undying love for me and telling me all the naughty little things he wants to do to me. :hearts: :whips
OK, so it's late Friday afternoon what can I say? :lol:
Post by: supsandalee on May 04, 2007, 04:03:19 PM
Oh my God, what are we going to do once Sunday is over, OK, Monday we will have the interviews and press stuff to keep us busy, but then....no more TAR until TAR12 spoilers begin circulating! :'(
Micheal, didn't they tell you? You will be responsible for staking out all airports in a 300 mile radius of where you live in hopes of spotting the TAR12 teams leaving the country from the starting city. :lol:
Post by: michael on May 04, 2007, 04:19:47 PM
Post by: lulu1212 on May 04, 2007, 04:25:42 PM
Post by: puddin on May 04, 2007, 04:32:57 PM
"I'm Sorry I'm Wearing A Bathing Suit. It Is Very Weird, I Know" -- Host Phil Keoghan waits at the Pitstop on the black sand lakeshore of Lago Todos Los Santos, Chile
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Post by: apskip on May 04, 2007, 05:04:54 PM
Cleveland
Detroit
Pittsburgh
Buffalo
It'll be tough duty, but think of your contribution to AR12.
Post by: apskip on May 04, 2007, 05:07:32 PM
Post by: apskip on May 04, 2007, 05:13:15 PM
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Looks like they are celebrating that they are way ahead of C/M not knowing that C/M made different flight out of Guam but all three teams will hook up together in NRT for fllight NW 10 to HNL.
That fits precisely with my Glenn Weber interview information, which revealed that C/M took the earlier NW 81 by themselves and booked it at Continental. I expect that those smiles will be wiped off their faces when all 3 teams meet up boarding NW10 in Narita.
Post by: puddin on May 04, 2007, 06:00:47 PM
New image of C/M from the finale?: http://tv.yahoo.com/.
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Post by: puddin on May 04, 2007, 06:26:58 PM
The second one is what we assume C/M in a taxi heading for the Strybing Arboretum in Golden Gate Park.
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Post by: gingerman28 on May 04, 2007, 08:29:56 PM
Post by: georgiapeach on May 04, 2007, 08:51:57 PM
Why does she look so relaxed? already has a reservation? There is time for them to catch their breath I think.
Well guys--I'm catching a plane in less than 8 hours for TARcon.
If anyone has any unanswered questions for racers--Post them and I'll do my best!
Spoil well and I'll chime in when I can!
Pictures to come---maybe! :lol:
Post by: gingerman28 on May 04, 2007, 08:59:31 PM
Taxi+air traffic control tower is a match.
Why does she look so relaxed? already has a reservation? There is time for them to catch their breath I think.
Here is another thing to ponder. If the teams fly from Lanai direct to HNL why would they be waiting by a taxi? Wouldn't they make a direct connection through the terminal from one flight to another? Something doesn't seem to ring true. Or are they on the way from the arrival hall to wherever they can catch a helio flight to Lanai. NW10 arrived at 7:40AM so by the time they get through customs there wouldn't be a wait for Hours of Operation for the helio takeoff. And both Charla and Mirna change clothes before the get into the chopper: Charla has her black swinsuit with flowers on over her slacks, and Mirna now wears a tight light green halter type top.
Post by: michael on May 04, 2007, 09:41:27 PM
I hope you post some great pictures of you and you know who!!
Post by: georgiapeach on May 04, 2007, 09:43:19 PM
Post by: michael on May 04, 2007, 09:47:28 PM
Me and the CHA's --right? :lol3:
Yup! :lol3:
Post by: Chateau d If on May 04, 2007, 11:09:38 PM
Note, this gets updated in the next page. This location is incorrect!
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Post by: puddin on May 04, 2007, 11:17:56 PM
I'll miss all of you going to Tarcon but am expecting lots of pictures :happy: :yess:
Post by: michael on May 04, 2007, 11:19:44 PM
OH Good Job Chateau :jam: :jumpy:!!!
I'll miss all of you going to Tarcon but am expecting lots of pictures :happy: :yess:
Looks like it will be just me and you here Sunday night puddin :snicker: ...this may or may not be necessary but how good are you at comforting people?
Post by: puddin on May 04, 2007, 11:27:30 PM
Post by: michael on May 04, 2007, 11:30:10 PM
HaHa I have my flame retardent suit ready Michael, it might be need that needs comforting :lol: :kissy:
you think people will be mad at you if the list is wrong? :jumpy: I'll go easy on you, don't worry, but honestly, we both know you have nothing to worry about. It just can't be wrong. Everything points to that now... :( for me, ;D for Big Papi!
Post by: down_with_alli on May 04, 2007, 11:32:28 PM
The Kayak Paddle to the shipwreck would be compulsory as well, but I think the detour would be something like surf (because Charla on the surfboard boat thing looks completely different to the RED kayak) or dive.
I think the final roadblock would be something along the lines of "finding" your partner who's hidden somewhere by doing something.
I'm not vague at all :lol:
Post by: puddin on May 04, 2007, 11:42:20 PM
This shot was taken here. There is a business there called Offshore Flight School and they do helicopter tours.We'll I can't find pictures just a map http://www.local.com/large_map.aspx
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Post by: puddin on May 04, 2007, 11:50:19 PM
Well all I know is that if I ever hear about the winner or any kind of list again I'm not posting it :lol:! I think it took the fun out of the season sooooo..HaHa I have my flame retardent suit ready Michael, it might be need that needs comforting :lol: :kissy:
you think people will be mad at you if the list is wrong? :jumpy: I'll go easy on you, don't worry, but honestly, we both know you have nothing to worry about. It just can't be wrong. Everything points to that now... :( for me, ;D for Big Papi!
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Post by: down_with_alli on May 04, 2007, 11:59:14 PM
yeah it did - and even if it's wrong all of us went the whole season believing it, but you know...I think secretly we are all glad we knew it because we are spoiler obsessed :lol3:
WHY DO I DO THIS TO MYSELF!?
I think I started spoiler-ing myself after Freddy and KKKendra won. And this is the first time I've actually started participating in spoiler discussion in this season so much love to you all.
Actually I could have really spoiled the F5 in TAR 2 because I was "in the city" (at the centre of Sydney) the day where Blake/Paige and Wil/Tara were running around. I was in the background sliding down the steepy walls built on the side of the Opera House with some of my family/friends and taking photos of us when we noticed these camera/mic crews following two teams and I was like WTF!? because I saw Season 1 but was only 12-13 at the time. So we just hung around and watched as one of the team members left in taxis to go do their RB (which I totally forgot at the time because I SUCK!).
Phew great story. Not.
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Still trying to figure out why they are holding the Cab? They don't know yet that they won't be needing it again?
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Post by: gingerman28 on May 05, 2007, 09:44:42 AM
This shot was taken here. There is a business there called Offshore Flight School and they do helicopter tours.
Didn't we note that the helicopter belonged to someone else?
If they are waiting there must be a time involved when they can leave by chopper (note Mirna consulting her watch).
Still there is the question of where and when they change clothes. On board the chopper Charla has her swim suit on already, and Mirna has her green halter top on; the same outfits they are wearing when going across the rocks toward the shipwreck (later we see her in a red bikinia tip). So a lot of clothes changes going on in this ep
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on May 05, 2007, 10:44:06 AM
God I wish someone @ TARcon would tell D/K bout me && find out some contact info for them...
lol
so
What all do we know about the Roadblock??
Post by: puddin on May 05, 2007, 10:51:34 AM
Post by: Boingo on May 05, 2007, 11:22:17 AM
This shot was taken here. There is a business there called Offshore Flight School and they do helicopter tours.
Didn't we note that the helicopter belonged to someone else?
If they are waiting there must be a time involved when they can leave by chopper (note Mirna consulting her watch).
Still there is the question of where and when they change clothes. On board the chopper Charla has her swim suit on already, and Mirna has her green halter top on; the same outfits they are wearing when going across the rocks toward the shipwreck (later we see her in a red bikinia tip). So a lot of clothes changes going on in this ep
ummm....it's not a stretch to think that the helicopter shot of M/C could be going back to Oahu, after completing the tasks on Lanai. Never occured to anyone that if they arrive by chopper, they could just as easily go back by chopper. Ya think? :groan:
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Well all I know is that if I ever hear about the winner or any kind of list again I'm not posting it ! I think it took the fun out of the season sooooo..
Ya think? What a snoozer of a season due to the list. :rotf: :lol: :snicker: Bad puddin, bad puddin. ;)
Post by: puddin on May 05, 2007, 11:28:28 AM
Sorry if I ruined the season but like my friend on another board says " A spoiler isn't a spoiler untill the show has aired."
I was trolling around CBS and found this fwiw:
Whats on CBS in May (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=136347&ord=76297.74669898854) ( video )
voice over: the unbelievable finish of the Amazing Race All-Stars
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Post by: Boingo on May 05, 2007, 11:30:02 AM
Oh I think they fly back to Honolulu by chopper too Boingo :tup:
Sorry if I ruined the season but like my friend on another board says " A spoiler isn't a spoiler untill the show has aired."
I was trolling around CBS and found this fwiw:
Whats on CBS in May (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=136347&ord=76297.74669898854) ( video )
voice over: the unbelievable finish of the Amazing Race All-Stars
That's the Malaysia pitstop, ain't it? ;D
Post by: puddin on May 05, 2007, 11:33:16 AM
Post by: michael on May 05, 2007, 11:48:30 AM
The only win of the F3 that I would find "unbelievable" would be C/M ???
Post by: joemike on May 05, 2007, 12:03:18 PM
Post by: mswood on May 05, 2007, 12:05:25 PM
Yeah puddin, that's what I've been saying all along, a spoiler isn't a spoiler until it's proven to be right :knuckles: if it's right I think you deserve the best spoiler in the universe award, even if it wasn't your list to begin with.I agree.
The only win of the F3 that I would find "unbelievable" would be C/M ???
I want Eric & Danielle to win, would be happy if Dustin & Kandice win, would go kill myself if Charla & Mirna won.
Post by: mswood on May 05, 2007, 12:08:31 PM
Post by: michael on May 05, 2007, 12:09:38 PM
joemike, usually the team not shown a lot are the ones who do well in the leg, but who knows....all I know is I'm expecting a E/D win, praying for a D/K win, and hoping for an awesome finale.
mswood- that shot of Eric is at the Malaysian pit stop!
Post by: joemike on May 05, 2007, 12:13:13 PM
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Post by: mswood on May 05, 2007, 12:26:35 PM
E/D COULD be unbelievable since they haven't won a single leg this race. But then, DK or CM could both be unbelievable for being the first F/F team to win..That would explain why it looked familiar. :groan:
joemike, usually the team not shown a lot are the ones who do well in the leg, but who knows....all I know is I'm expecting a E/D win, praying for a D/K win, and hoping for an awesome finale.
mswood- that shot of Eric is at the Malaysian pit stop!
Post by: puddin on May 05, 2007, 12:33:05 PM
it looks like e/d are watching another team go. Like they got there after some1
No they have a clue in their hand and are probably looking of for the cave.
Hey thats it! Detour ..Caves or Waves :lol:
And what I'm saying about E/D is that SeeBS is pumping up an all female team in the final 3 (http://www.courant.com/features/lifestyle/hc-final0505.artmay05,0,4539515.story?coll=hc-headlines-life) for ratings and are probably hiding obvious, "you'll be surprised who wins". I think a lot of people are counting out E/D because they haven't won a leg yet and most average viewers will be surprised.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP13/21.jpg) Waves
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP13/01May0009.jpg) Caves
Post by: Chateau d If on May 05, 2007, 12:43:51 PM
This shot was taken here between 8:03 and 9:15 am (assumes December 16th).
I think the other location I put up earlier is incorrect.
This place matches a possible sun angle, the other place was solar impossible.
The location is just further along Lagoon Drive at the intersection with Palekona St.
This one also gives the correct view of the "arms" of the control tower.
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Puddin don't you dare hold out on us! :lol: I luuuuuvvvv the spoilers. :hearts: Bring on the :boot: lists!!!!!!!
Post by: gingerman28 on May 05, 2007, 02:27:34 PM
:lol: FWIW, looks like the helicopter C/M are flying in resembles an A-Star helicopter. Ignoring the fact that Heli USA flies A-Star helos, the windows seem to match. Just one more bit of useless information. :knuckles:I thought early on we had pix of helicopter N4064F taking off at Honolulu airport. This chopper i belongs to Sunshine Helicopters and flies throughout the islands.
Post by: Boingo on May 05, 2007, 02:48:54 PM
I thought early on we had pix of helicopter N4064F taking off at Honolulu airport. This chopper i belongs to Sunshine Helicopters and flies throughout the islands.
hmmm....a quick google search shows Sunshine Helicopters is based in Hilo and Kona, and hard to pin them down to a Honolulu location. BTW, they also fly A-Star helos. Maybe you can track down some additional info to support your case. I don't recall seeing any previews showing the racers actually entering/exiting the N4064F aircraft. Could be stock footage.
Interesting fact #946....sure is expensive to charter a chopper in Hawaii (from Sunshine Helicopter web site):
Private Charter
• Wedding
• Professional Photo Shoots
• Transportation
• Golf Packages or Transfers
• Private Custom Tours
Let our trained staff create a truly unforgettable event for you;
from transfer to outer islands and wedding packages, to
Big Island volcano runs and tours of Molokai's Kalaupapa
Peninsula. Custom picnic baskets can be prepared at your
request. Horseback riding and other combination events
available for groups as well.
ASTAR Helicopters (Up to six passengers):
$1,700.00* per hour (30 minute minimum)
*$1,800.00 per hour (With applicable fees and fuel surcharge) :o
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Post by: michael on May 05, 2007, 04:08:40 PM
PS;
peach is probably living it up in NY right now :lol:
Post by: puddin on May 05, 2007, 06:14:50 PM
The only solo thing we see is Charla doing the standup paddle surfing and we know shes used up all 6 of her Roadblock turns, as already pointed out above somewhere, lol. I dunno..maybe the roadblock is Hula dancing :umn:
lol I bet peach is having a blast, with apskips :lol:!! ...
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:o RFF Arrives in NYC :rfth::lol: :yess:
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Post by: michael on May 05, 2007, 08:11:56 PM
I wonder what she thought Erics thumb was? :snicker:
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Post by: Boingo on May 05, 2007, 08:41:38 PM
thankfully i am in NJ AND NOT NY!!!!! nj is safe for now :yess:
:lol: Yep, everyone's safe with the Toxic Avenger from New Jersey. :rotf: :rfth:
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 05, 2007, 09:02:18 PM
Post by: michael on May 05, 2007, 09:05:19 PM
Post by: supsandalee on May 05, 2007, 09:10:02 PM
Anywho, I know that this Miss Alli is the main mod at TWOP for Amazing Race right? What I don't know is why she is so well hated and what Mirna said about her. Care to fill me in? ---- Off topic I know.
Post by: gingerman28 on May 05, 2007, 09:14:48 PM
I thought early on we had pix of helicopter N4064F taking off at Honolulu airport. This chopper i belongs to Sunshine Helicopters and flies throughout the islands.
hmmm....a quick google search shows Sunshine Helicopters is based in Hilo and Kona, and hard to pin them down to a Honolulu location. BTW, they also fly A-Star helos. Maybe you can track down some additional info to support your case. I don't recall seeing any previews showing the racers actually entering/exiting the N4064F aircraft. Could be stock footage.
Interesting fact #946....sure is expensive to charter a chopper in Hawaii (from Sunshine Helicopter web site):
Private Charter
• Wedding
• Professional Photo Shoots
• Transportation
• Golf Packages or Transfers
• Private Custom Tours
Let our trained staff create a truly unforgettable event for you;
from transfer to outer islands and wedding packages, to
Big Island volcano runs and tours of Molokai's Kalaupapa
Peninsula. Custom picnic baskets can be prepared at your
request. Horseback riding and other combination events
available for groups as well.
ASTAR Helicopters (Up to six passengers):
$1,700.00* per hour (30 minute minimum)
*$1,800.00 per hour (With applicable fees and fuel surcharge) :o
The interior of that AStar sure matches the interior of the chopper that we see Mirna and Charla in. Heck, $1800 an hour is peanuts for TPTB to spend on a show like TAR.
Post by: puddin on May 05, 2007, 10:54:14 PM
Let them eat cake (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Parisinspring/TARCON5/DSCN0492.jpg).Chateau your not going? :-\
Post by: puddin on May 05, 2007, 10:57:34 PM
Just gotta ask. A couple seasons ago I would look at spoilers at ALL the sites but not anymore (because there is no better place than RFF!) :hearts:Try this Sups :hearts:
Anywho, I know that this Miss Alli is the main mod at TWOP for Amazing Race right? What I don't know is why she is so well hated and what Mirna said about her. Care to fill me in? ---- Off topic I know.
Charla & Mirna freshen up for Phil ( OMG they talk about Ms Ali!! and call her a fat ass bitch! Miss Alligator!!)
http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=133365&ord=38977.10018124784
Post by: iargyrop on May 05, 2007, 11:04:44 PM
Post by: puddin on May 05, 2007, 11:07:04 PM
Post by: joemike on May 05, 2007, 11:08:16 PM
Post by: michael on May 05, 2007, 11:08:47 PM
i thought you didn't for some reason, but yay that makes me happy for some reason :D
yes, good luck to all of the teams you guys are supporting, but more good luck to mine, apparently they need it.
It really sucks that this season is ending, but then again...not much longer until the TAR12 spoilers start coming out....around a month!!! :ninja
Then the teams in the summer! I'M EXCITED!
Chateau aren't you going to TARcon? I thought you were sitting with Peach?
Post by: joemike on May 05, 2007, 11:13:08 PM
Post by: michael on May 05, 2007, 11:14:16 PM
God...if you there...remember our deal (:;)
Post by: puddin on May 05, 2007, 11:15:54 PM
Post by: michael on May 05, 2007, 11:17:28 PM
Oh I think the BQ's are really good racers and actually wanted them to win last season because the other 3 teams were a snore.
I know!!! Between the dude's and babes out of Rob and Kims mouth, or the constant rehab talk of Tyler and James, or Karlyn who wouldn't stop bitching, the BQs were clearly the best of the F4.
Post by: joemike on May 05, 2007, 11:18:54 PM
Post by: puddin on May 05, 2007, 11:41:31 PM
i wish kris and john would have been on. I really liked themI think that was like 99.9% of us wanted too :jam: .
Post by: michael on May 05, 2007, 11:43:19 PM
Post by: down_with_alli on May 06, 2007, 12:29:09 AM
Kris and John - my favorite team to never win, but that could change after tomorrow ..I think they should have had John Vito and Jills spot.
(:;)
Take that back! I loved JVJ back then and I lovem now. Jill has such a fire in her. Wish they'd make it further.
Also, :hearts: final 3 as well. Really don't mind who wins.
And also LOL ALLIGATOR!
I dislike her hence my nickname.
Post by: the_headcrusher on May 06, 2007, 12:55:34 AM
we're going to hell :happy:
OH YEAAAAA!!!! I'm impressed you got the kool-aid guy on camera...oh wait.
FWIW (I haven't read through all of this topic yet) anyway, if you want to check the registrations for any American aircraft go here:
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_inquiry.asp (http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_inquiry.asp)
Post by: puddin on May 06, 2007, 01:08:11 AM
OMG I'll never drink Kool-Aid again :lol:we're going to hell :happy:
OH YEAAAAA!!!! I'm impressed you got the kool-aid guy on camera...oh wait.
FWIW (I haven't read through all of this topic yet) anyway, if you want to check the registrations for any American aircraft go here:
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_inquiry.asp (http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_inquiry.asp)
Post by: Chateau d If on May 06, 2007, 01:11:35 AM
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As long as I wake up and make my 6:30 am flight I'll be there :martini:Be safe my friend :hearts:!!
Post by: makz3d on May 06, 2007, 01:37:07 AM
Dang, I'd love to go to TarCon. I'll be going to bed about the time you get up. I'll then be getting up to watch show and then an hour after it's over it's off to work for the night. I'll miss all of the before banter and most of the after. I will have an hour to console myself IF D/K don't win.
When I don't work I'm reading the messages while everyone's asleep or when I'm working I'm reading them when I get home.
Post by: Chateau d If on May 06, 2007, 01:49:31 AM
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Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on May 06, 2007, 10:01:46 AM
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Post by: down_with_alli on May 06, 2007, 10:51:32 AM
I'll be sitting through a lecture in Uni whilst the show goes on.
Bah.
Post by: michael on May 06, 2007, 11:04:30 AM
I probably wont even be paying attention to the show at all. The whole time I will be thinking "GET FAR AHEAD DUSTIN AND KANDICE!" and then at the end after it's done I'll be either very, very sad (but happy since I have no school tomorrow) or really really happy :D
I love Finale time - but I'm sad the season will be over after today :(
$HOP@HOL!C - No, I've never talked to either of them, I'm guessing they must go to sucks (another forum) once in a while as they know me by my user name over there!!! I am quite the D/K defender to the haters on that site.
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on May 06, 2007, 11:10:41 AM
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on May 06, 2007, 11:12:11 AM
That sucks!Yea same (except I'll be doing it while I'm out)
I probably wont even be paying attention to the show at all. The whole time I will be thinking "GET FAR AHEAD DUSTIN AND KANDICE!" and then at the end after it's done I'll be either very, very sad (but happy since I have no school tomorrow) or really really happy :D
I love Finale time - but I'm sad the season will be over after today :(
$HOP@HOL!C - No, I've never talked to either of them, I'm guessing they must go to sucks (another forum) once in a while as they know me by my user name over there!!! I am quite the D/K defender to the haters on that site.
Post by: mswood on May 06, 2007, 12:02:01 PM
To Peach, Chateau and apskip have an awesome time tonight (your all bastards but in the best possible way).
To the rest of us in front of the tv, computer screen or even in Australia and Guam and that damn King in Canada heres to a great finale no matter who wins.
Post by: michael on May 06, 2007, 12:03:59 PM
haha, thanks mswood, yes hopefully no matter who wins the actual finale is awesome :jam:
Post by: puddin on May 06, 2007, 12:27:07 PM
Post by: mswood on May 06, 2007, 12:29:42 PM
At least you had the Hippies to console you.
Post by: mswood on May 06, 2007, 12:30:45 PM
Grabs gun points to head, and pulls trigger. :groan:
Post by: puddin on May 06, 2007, 01:11:08 PM
Yeah, I hope so. I don't think I could stand to see Eric's face again so disappointed and disgusted with himself like in season 9.:-[ :angel:
At least you had the Hippies to console you.
Post by: mswood on May 06, 2007, 01:28:06 PM
Damn that was a freaking awesome day.
This place is going to be lonesome next week, then we have the official CBS pickup announcement on the week of hte the 15th (or so).
AND THERE BETTER BE A PICKUP NOTICE!!!
And then the wait for seasons 12's (hopefully) start up.
God, I might have to start watching Big Brother... :umn:
Now that this season is winding down, still thinks eason 10 was the most spoiled?
Post by: michael on May 06, 2007, 01:29:59 PM
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Puddin just think what e were doing last time their was a season finale.
I wasn't here then, what were you guys doing?
If the boot list is correct then I think that this will have been the most spoiled season ever.
Post by: puddin on May 06, 2007, 01:36:32 PM
Post by: mswood on May 06, 2007, 01:37:00 PM
We got the last episode of season 10 with Tyler & James winning (my picks from t he first episode) so yeah I was happy. And later that night we got Izad's spoilers. Both puddina nd myself were big fans of Eric (though for some reasons she liked BJ & Tyler more), so we were very happy. It was awesome. Pluse beisdes Charla & Mirna I was happy with all the two other teams shown (Oswald & Danny my favorite of the gay teams, and Dustin & Kandice who are my favorite of the female teams).
So it was just an awesome night.
Post by: mswood on May 06, 2007, 01:37:27 PM
Oh I think we will have very very good news, maybe tonight? about Season 12 :yess:You tease.
Post by: puddin on May 06, 2007, 01:38:00 PM
;)Oh I think we will have very very good news, maybe tonight? about Season 12 :yess:You tease.
Post by: michael on May 06, 2007, 01:39:00 PM
It was the greatest day in race history (for me at least).Oh, I remember going crazy on sucks the night Izad posted his photos, It made up for D/K being eliminated the week before when I saw them there :D
We got the last episode of season 10 with Tyler & James winning (my picks from t he first episode) so yeah I was happy. And later that night we got Izad's spoilers. Both puddina nd myself were big fans of Eric (though for some reasons she liked BJ & Tyler more), so we were very happy. It was awesome. Pluse beisdes Charla & Mirna I was happy with all the two other teams shown (Oswald & Danny my favorite of the gay teams, and Dustin & Kandice who are my favorite of the female teams).
So it was just an awesome night.
I was kind of shocked there was no Rob and Amber though..
I hope we here some TAR12 stuff tonight puddin! Didn't we get a lot of confirmation last May TARcon
Post by: puddin on May 06, 2007, 01:43:57 PM
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Post by: michael on May 06, 2007, 01:47:35 PM
Post by: mswood on May 06, 2007, 01:48:06 PM
The questions are:
1. Will it get an official greenlight.
And based on ratings (especially the target ad demo) it should.
2. Will it stay on the same night? I think so.
3. Well we get two seasons next year?
That to me is the real kicker. I could see them saving the show as a mid season replacement or even hold it to fill any early shows that get cancelled. At very worst it would be a good summer show as well.
Post by: michael on May 06, 2007, 01:49:43 PM
Post by: puddin on May 06, 2007, 01:54:08 PM
I'm hoping it will move back to Tuesday nights, but thats just me, lol.
:crown
And back to TAR ..good news I hear season TAR12 has an unofficial greenlight from CBS, whatever that the hell that means.
Post by: Kogs on May 06, 2007, 02:04:10 PM
Oh there is no real question that the producers have geared tehmselves up for season 12.
The questions are:
1. Will it get an official greenlight.
And based on ratings (especially the target ad demo) it should.
2. Will it stay on the same night? I think so.
3. Well we get two seasons next year?
That to me is the real kicker. I could see them saving the show as a mid season replacement or even hold it to fill any early shows that get cancelled. At very worst it would be a good summer show as well.
and we dont know about the writers strike yet, if they strike well we know we will have another season on time, its the spring season to me which may get held back
Post by: michael on May 06, 2007, 05:09:27 PM
on another note: I hope we see Glenn tonight! :lol3:
Post by: Kogs on May 06, 2007, 05:25:28 PM
somebody from TWOP says that the show is going to run late on CBS due to golf, Maybe I'll know the winners before you guys :happy:
on another note: I hope we see Glenn tonight! :lol3:
ummm the cbs evening news is on right now dont know why they assume tar will be late. local news is next here in nyc
Post by: michael on May 06, 2007, 05:26:10 PM
Post by: Kogs on May 06, 2007, 05:36:23 PM
hmm, oops, sorry!
LOL its ok, the people at twop dont know better :lol:
Post by: puddin on May 06, 2007, 05:39:13 PM
Post by: Kogs on May 06, 2007, 05:50:23 PM
Actually I was watching golf, was it cut off and the news came on? I thought Tiger had more shots ???
not sure i think it finished, cause 60 min is on in 10 min here
Post by: anon1akacolby on May 06, 2007, 05:56:29 PM
peach and Chateau, and whoever else have fun at TarCon! If you get to talk to Charla and Mirna, ask them if they remember Izad?! It would be cool to hear if they knew that Izad spoiled their visit to Malaysia and that him and his friends are the people that helped them out. Oh, even if you talked to any of the final 5, it would be interesting to hear what they have to say about Izad's Malaysian spoiler and if they recall seeing him. That would be interesting to hear.
Thanks to everyone for a great season of spoiling. I've enjoyed reading all the hard work you put into spoiling the episodes every week! :tup:
Colby
Post by: gingerman28 on May 06, 2007, 06:10:54 PM
Actually I was watching golf, was it cut off and the news came on? I thought Tiger had more shots ???
not sure i think it finished, cause 60 min is on in 10 min here
Everything is running ON TIME. TAR will start at 2000 hours Eastern Time.
How about Jimmy Johnson, Puddin, winning yet again!
Post by: gingerman28 on May 06, 2007, 06:17:40 PM
Puddin just think what e were doing last time their was a season finale.
Damn that was a freaking awesome day.
This place is going to be lonesome next week, then we have the official CBS pickup announcement on the week of hte the 15th (or so).
AND THERE BETTER BE A PICKUP NOTICE!!!
And then the wait for seasons 12's (hopefully) start up.
God, I might have to start watching Big Brother... :umn:
Now that this season is winding down, still thinks eason 10 was the most spoiled?
Keep an eye on Atlanta Airport May 19. Something newsworthy will happen. :yess:
Post by: puddin on May 06, 2007, 06:17:56 PM
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How about Jimmy Johnson, Puddin, winning yet again!Gotta love those Hendricks motors :grins:
Enjoy the show Gman :kuss: :waves:
Post by: hakushu8 on May 06, 2007, 06:24:04 PM
Keep an eye on Atlanta Airport May 19. Something newsworthy will happen. :yess:
Interesting... hopefully something everyone would enjoy? ???
Post by: michael on May 06, 2007, 06:29:47 PM
Post by: Tyler on May 06, 2007, 06:34:33 PM
Post by: puddin on May 06, 2007, 06:39:57 PM
Ahh Puddin, Hendrick Motorsports is winning all the COT races....it's getting tiresome.Agreed Tyler as well as predictable, someone like Jr needs a win :jam:
Post by: joemike on May 06, 2007, 08:09:43 PM
Post by: gingerman28 on May 06, 2007, 08:51:54 PM
What threw us off quite a bit was the "quick change" artistry of Mirna. To wit:
Drive to Guam Airport - Green top, grey shorts.
Walk to Plane - Green top, grey shorts
On the Plane - Black top, Green sweater
In cab at HNL - Black top, Green sweater
In Helicopter - Green top
Getting on the Zodiac - Green top, black shorts
On the Zodiac - Red bikini top, black shorts
Gettin off Zodiac - Red bikini top, black shorts
Driving Jeep - Green top, black shorts
Getting into Helicopter for return to HNL - Green top, black shorts
In the Helicopter - Red tee shirt, long black pants
San Franisco - Blue sweater over red tee shirt
So the Detour in Lanai was to ride the surfboard or dive in the cave; we had pretty much figured that out.
Final two-way ROADBLOCK (If you want to call it that) was perfectly hidden. There was a hint of what it was going to be, but nothing else.
Why did they only try for flights to Oakland and not San Francisco? Or did I miss something?
Somebody has some pull (perhaps the NW agent in Guam) as D/K and E/D start olff in Tourist Class, on NW 10 from NRT to HNL but after door is shut we now see them in plush Busiiness Class seats for the flight from NRT to HNL
And finally, if Puddin says something, do not doubt her for one minuite. Her boot list was perfect to the end (sorry about that Michael)
All in all one of the best TARs and we had a pretty good time tracing the actual travel in real time and figuring out the rest. TPTB threw us a couple of curve balls, but not too many.
Now a summer of travelling and possible sightings for TAR12.
Ciao
Post by: Slowhatch on May 06, 2007, 09:04:49 PM
Post by: Kogs on May 06, 2007, 09:14:07 PM
I don't understand the connection between Kamaka Air (http://kamakaair.com/index.html?) and Sunshine Helicopters (still haven't seen it yet), but Chateau (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12083.msg187343/topicseen.html#msg187343) was spot-on for the location: 144 Palekona st. :yess:
maybe kamaka air is where sunshine helicopters are????
Post by: iargyrop on May 06, 2007, 10:39:10 PM
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Post by: mswood on May 06, 2007, 11:09:09 PM
I also liked how he choked up talking about Danielle. And look he knows something about her father. Aren't all the haters surprised.
I am also very glad that it wasn't a episode where one team was a head at all points until the very last event and lost because of that.
Even myself a fan of Eric & Danielle wouldn't have wanted them to win in a leg that they were behind in for the wholeleg (or not first for most of it or at least a good part of it).
Post by: Boingo on May 06, 2007, 11:10:11 PM
I don't understand the connection between Kamaka Air (http://kamakaair.com/index.html?) and Sunshine Helicopters (still haven't seen it yet), but Chateau (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12083.msg187343/topicseen.html#msg187343) was spot-on for the location: 144 Palekona st. :yess:
Frankly, I don't see any obvious connection. Maybe they used Sunshine choppers because they don't have their name splashed all over the aircraft, and Kamaka Air just was a convenient location along the small craft runway at HNL Airport. IIRC, Sunshine is based in Hilo and Kona, and don't have a base in Oahu.
Did we miss Manele Bay (wooden) docks? No such docks at the commercial harbor. ???
Post by: mswood on May 06, 2007, 11:12:21 PM
Post by: michael on May 06, 2007, 11:14:02 PM
THANKS KOGS :groan:
Post by: PsychoJason on May 06, 2007, 11:17:58 PM
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Post by: michael on May 07, 2007, 12:53:40 AM
Post by: chris_oclc on May 07, 2007, 03:30:20 AM
Post by: chris_oclc on May 07, 2007, 03:35:14 AM
Post by: apskip on May 07, 2007, 06:44:27 AM
Why did they only try for flights to Oakland and not San Francisco? Or did I miss something?
Somebody has some pull (perhaps the NW agent in Guam) as D/K and E/D start olff in Tourist Class, on NW 10 from NRT to HNL but after door is shut we now see them in plush Busiiness Class seats for the flight from NRT to HNL
All in all one of the best TARs and we had a pretty good time tracing the actual travel in real time and figuring out the rest. TPTB threw us a couple of curve balls, but not too many.
GMAN, I agree that you got us on the right track with the 24 hour pit stop.
I can tell you in retrospect why Oakland. It's because there was only one fly option from HNL and that guaranteed that there would be no possible surprises in teams getting different flights arriving at different times. All teams had a level playing field coming into Oakland. While that would probably have been the case into San Francisco, it was not as sure. Also the later arrival of that flight by 1 hour 56 minutes than UA576 into SFO fit the timing of getting to Strybing Arboretum better. They did not want them there in the dark. The angles of sunlight over the trees were pretty low as it was.
Glenn Weber of Northwest had his 3 seconds of fame on the show. I had hoped he would get more face time. I am guessing that it was the 747 captain in Guam who made the arrangements for that upgrade even though it wasn't his flight.
Post by: michael on May 07, 2007, 07:30:58 AM
all the teams look great! :wohoo:
Post by: apskip on May 07, 2007, 08:26:48 AM
To pull this off, you have to be totally prepared. I have no doubt that Mirna was ready and knew what to look for when they arrived in Narita.
Post by: Riomangatar on May 07, 2007, 09:30:16 AM
Was this a roadblock? Since Mirna was doind it? And I think in the other pic was Danielle? It was probably not aired.
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Post by: Slowhatch on May 07, 2007, 09:40:16 AM
Post by: puddin on May 07, 2007, 10:27:43 AM
No location details...from CBS,
"Finale" -- Teams perform a Road Block in which one team member must jump off a more than 30 foot high cliff in order to receive their next clue on THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS.
Post by: puddin on May 07, 2007, 11:27:07 AM
CBS) "The Amazing Race All-Stars" season finale took the final three teams from Guam to Hawaii to San Francisco. All the teams held the lead in the final leg, but dating couple Eric Sanchez and Danielle Turner cracked the code to make it to the finish line first.
Eric and Danielle, who met while racing against each other during Season 9, beat out two other tough teams, former beauty queens Dustin Seltzer and Kandice Pelletier and cousins Charla Baklayan Faddoul and Mirna Hindoyan, to claim the $1 million dollar prize.
But their final leg was a nail-biter. All three teams were neck-and-neck and Dustin and Kandice nearly made history by becoming the first all female team to win, but Eric and Danielle beat them by less than 10 minutes.
The key, Danielle said, was communication. Eric said Danielle spent a lot of time talking and gossiping. But it came in handy, because the two, who are no longer dating, were on the same page when it came time for them to crack the code. They had to answer questions about the other teams.
Even still, Eric, who lives in Florida, was tough on his ex-girlfriend, but he said she knew what she was getting in to.
"I told Danielle when we started the race, 'I'm going to be tough on you, it's a competition'," he told Early Show co-anchor Julie Chen. "I think she appreciates it. I mean, otherwise, you know, I think we would have been out a lot earlier if I had been yelling at her. I may have been a little rough at times."
"You were definitely a little rough at times," Danielle, of Staten Island, NY, said. "I got upset because I wanted him to enjoy more. Even during our idle time he was so stressed out. It was a lot on me but at the end it paid off."
The former couple, who will split the $1 million, said the race helped them realize that they just were not romantically compatible, though they remain friends.
"We get along now but we realized on the race our relationship really isn't going to really work out too well — two different people," Eric said. "But everything is good. I'm happy for her. She's happy for me. It's not the best place to test your relationship on 'The Amazing Race.'"
Runners up Dustin and Kandice also had their difficult times. They exchanged some heated words in Hawaii but said they remain best friends and even got a little bit of money for coming in second.
"The blonde bickering we had was nothing," Dustin said. "We hate fighting. We didn't want to fight. And so we were trying to hold it in but I think we were so exhausted and hungry."
Cousins Charla and Mirna said they were disappointed by their third place finish, but were excited to have the opportunity to compete again.
"We met so many of our fans along the way - everywhere, Malaysia, South Africa, Hong Kong - and it was an exhilarating experience for both of us," Mirna said. "We're so proud of Eric and Danielle because they worked their butts off, too."
Post by: Riomangatar on May 07, 2007, 02:06:56 PM
Yes, Kogs (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12172.msg187720/topicseen.html#msg187720) mentioned it last night. When the racers finished the detour, the clue card they were given for Shipwreck beach was half-hidden (sorry, no photo yet), which is always a good sign of a missing task.
oh sorry, guess i didnt read that topic yet.
Post by: puddin on May 07, 2007, 02:19:11 PM
Post by: michael on May 07, 2007, 03:54:03 PM
When getting to the airport to buy a ticket to San Fransisco, one of them was like "I wonder if there is an area to buy tickets!"
Post by: anon1akacolby on May 07, 2007, 05:54:16 PM
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In Tokyo-Narita airport, Charla and Mirna pulled the coup of the century! Let me explain. They were supposed to have been on NW81, which left Guam at 1545 and arrived NRT at 1845. Their booked connection was to NW10(leaving at 2030) just like Eric/Danielle and Dustin/Kandice. Perhaps they arrived a little early and decided to try something theoretically impossible. United 880 left at 1900, with a connect time that is not doable. If you have been to Narita (and I have recently) you know that the gate layout for all the airlines from America is reasonably compact, so changing from one gate to another in a short time is conceivable. UA880 had surely been closed by the time Charla/Mirna got to the gate, but it appears that they talked their (and their camera/sound crew) way onto that flight. It should have arrived approximately one hour before NW10. Ultimately the bunching back at Honolulu airport for the Oakland flight would have negated any advantage from this, but it did give them a considerable head start on Lanai.
To pull this off, you have to be totally prepared. I have no doubt that Mirna was ready and knew what to look for when they arrived in Narita.
I CALLED IT!! In the wrong thread of course. I mentioned UA880 back in the episode 12 thread. though I didn't expect Mirna to pull it off! :lol3:
Here's the link to my post: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11991.50.html (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11991.50.html)
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I was just looking for flights from NRT to HNL leaving between 7:00PM and 8:30PM and the only flights that I can find are the following that leave at 7:00PM. There is nothing later. The next best flights are the NWA flights.
UA880
7:00 pm Depart Tokyo (NRT)
Arrive Honolulu (HNL) 7:18 am
ANA7024
7:00 pm Depart Tokyo (NRT)
Arrive Honolulu (HNL) 7:18 am
USAirways 6476
7:00 pm Depart Tokyo (NRT)
Arrive Honolulu (HNL) 7:18 am
Therefore it looks all teams will be neck and neck going into HNL. IF C/M are on that earlier flight into NRT, the gods would have to be shining on them brightly in order for them to try and change tickets and make a 7:00PM flight. That would be amazing if it happened but I don't see it happening. That's almost impossible!
Post by: Kogs on May 07, 2007, 06:39:14 PM
QuoteIn Tokyo-Narita airport, Charla and Mirna pulled the coup of the century! Let me explain. They were supposed to have been on NW81, which left Guam at 1545 and arrived NRT at 1845. Their booked connection was to NW10(leaving at 2030) just like Eric/Danielle and Dustin/Kandice. Perhaps they arrived a little early and decided to try something theoretically impossible. United 880 left at 1900, with a connect time that is not doable. If you have been to Narita (and I have recently) you know that the gate layout for all the airlines from America is reasonably compact, so changing from one gate to another in a short time is conceivable. UA880 had surely been closed by the time Charla/Mirna got to the gate, but it appears that they talked their (and their camera/sound crew) way onto that flight. It should have arrived approximately one hour before NW10. Ultimately the bunching back at Honolulu airport for the Oakland flight would have negated any advantage from this, but it did give them a considerable head start on Lanai.
To pull this off, you have to be totally prepared. I have no doubt that Mirna was ready and knew what to look for when they arrived in Narita.
I CALLED IT!! In the wrong thread of course. I mentioned UA880 back in the episode 12 thread. though I didn't expect Mirna to pull it off! :lol3:
Here's the link to my post: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11991.50.html (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11991.50.html)QuoteI was just looking for flights from NRT to HNL leaving between 7:00PM and 8:30PM and the only flights that I can find are the following that leave at 7:00PM. There is nothing later. The next best flights are the NWA flights.
UA880
7:00 pm Depart Tokyo (NRT)
Arrive Honolulu (HNL) 7:18 am
ANA7024
7:00 pm Depart Tokyo (NRT)
Arrive Honolulu (HNL) 7:18 am
USAirways 6476
7:00 pm Depart Tokyo (NRT)
Arrive Honolulu (HNL) 7:18 am
Therefore it looks all teams will be neck and neck going into HNL. IF C/M are on that earlier flight into NRT, the gods would have to be shining on them brightly in order for them to try and change tickets and make a 7:00PM flight. That would be amazing if it happened but I don't see it happening. That's almost impossible!
back in tar6 freddy and kkkendra try to pull that flight off but went to the gate instead of transfer desk
Post by: joemike on May 07, 2007, 08:55:07 PM
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Post by: apskip on May 08, 2007, 09:01:43 AM
Post by: apskip on May 09, 2007, 12:59:27 PM
The plane arrived Oakland International Airport at 0700. Getting off the plane and out to the taxis with presumably a new camera/sound crew(no desire to wait for the old one to get their equipment) would take maybe 10 minutes. Time from OAK to Old Mint early on Sunday morning would be about 30 minutes. Time at the Old Mint I am guessing at about 15 to 20 minutes for Eric/Danielle and 10 minutes more for Dustin/Kandice and 10 minutes more for Charla/Mirna. I think time from Old Mint to Strybing Arboretum is about 15 to 20 minutes. Time from the taxi to the mat is maybe 2 minutes. Put it all together and you have Eric/Danielle arrival at about 815am. The long shadows from the trees confirm that it is way before the normal opening time of 10am. I estimate the arrival of Dustin/Kandice at 825am and Charla/Mirna at 835am.
I am looking forward to CHATEAU's analysis to confirm or refute these times.
Post by: apskip on May 09, 2007, 01:01:36 PM
does anyone know the time difference of the arrival of the 3 teams at the finish line???
chris_oclc, I don't know for absolute fact, but the time differences are between 5 and 10 minutes between Eric/Danielle and Dustin/Kandice and also between Dustin/Kandice and Charla/Mirna. My personal guess is that it is at the high end of both ranges.
Post by: Chateau d If on May 10, 2007, 01:47:57 AM
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I am looking forward to CHATEAU's analysis to confirm or refute these times.
Well according to Danielle:
This shot was taken between 9:01 and 9:23 am on December 17th.
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 11, 2007, 08:28:51 PM
The rising Sun was a zero deg altitude at 7:24 am.
Dustin's head is making a shadow just above Kandice's eye.
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 11, 2007, 08:41:26 PM
It was on 5th St in front of the Old Mint as they ran around to the back street entrance on Jessie St.
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 11, 2007, 09:00:11 PM
It was on Jessie St in at the Old Mint as they ran around to the front after completing the code task.
Solar azimuth aligns exactly with 5th Street.
Okay, not exactly, this gets corrected in a later post on the next page. The estimate above should be 8:45 to 8:49 am.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 11, 2007, 09:41:06 PM
I am SO going to visit that Mint next trip to SF!
Did anyone get an exact location in the garden? or just in the Big Meadow somewhere?
Post by: Chateau d If on May 11, 2007, 10:03:07 PM
I'm working on a 'missing task' quest. I think they had to go some place before the mint. Taxi cabs are not the same from airport to finish ???
Here is the finish spot:
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 11, 2007, 10:10:58 PM
I am SO going back there again too! That's near your tree, right?
Post by: Chateau d If on May 11, 2007, 10:48:25 PM
Here's what I am seeing: Teams were sent to catch the Powell/Hyde St cable car somewhere back by Fisherman's Wharf. Then they would have to get new taxis at the other end. Charla & Mirna are seen on foot/wheelies in front of the San Francisco Shopping Center on Market St. That is directly across the street from the terminus of the Powell/Hyde ride. And, conveniently, it is fairly close to the Mint too.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 11, 2007, 11:09:07 PM
Gosh--was ALL of SF asleep that morning? No sightings on the cable cars??
Nice work on the locations Chateau!
Post by: Slowhatch on May 11, 2007, 11:25:31 PM
This cap, presumably before the old mint, shows cabs passing the DMV (http://www.dmv.ca.gov/fo/offices/fo.cgi?fo=sanfrancisco503), which is actually on the way to the park. Probably just editing, though.
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 11, 2007, 11:43:17 PM
Trading Places anyone?
And they don't go back to this taxi after all. They are shown getting a big yellow SUV thing after the Mint. And that is located also near the Powell/Hyde terminus! ???
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Post by: apskip on May 12, 2007, 08:25:22 AM
A further issue is that Mirna/Charla complaining about their Oakland airport taxi driver not knowing San Francisco does not ring true. My guess is that virtually all OAK cabbies know downtown San Francisco qutie well as many of their fares go there. I think it is likely that a "missing task" might have accounted for the 15 minute late arrival that Mirna/Charla had at the Old Mint. Any walking task would put them at a big disadvantage. Charla's wheelies would not be very effective up hills and they would be unsafe down hills.
Another thing that bothers me is why Charla/Mirna had to do significant repositioning to find the entrance to Strybing Arboretum, as shown in one of the Insider clips. Did their second cab driver screw up that badly in taking them there that they were on the wrong side to get in?
It's so nice to know that TAR editors have shielded us from all this EXTRANEOUS information that had NOTHING to do with the finish of TAR11! This used to be a show where you could trust that you were getting the straight story on TV, but those days are long gone.
Post by: Chateau d If on May 12, 2007, 04:10:25 PM
This shot was taken between 8:45 and 8:49 am on December 17th.
The shadow just ahead of the word "STOP" on the pavement comes from, not the Mint building but the next one to the east.
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 12, 2007, 04:39:55 PM
This shot was taken between between 8:45 and 8:49 am on December 17th.
The thing to note is the shadow on the building across the street. It is one window away from the iron balcony.
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 12, 2007, 04:47:08 PM
Now the shadow is two windows away from the iron balcony
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The sun is hitting the right edge of the iron balcony across the street (the image is washed out due to over exposure there)
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 13, 2007, 12:03:49 AM
It is because they had to do the task over. I think there was a technical difficulty with the the way the task was set up.
I'll just speculate that it was Mirna who called them on the problem! :rules:
Here's what I think really happened: The BQs and E&D arrived at about the same time and began the task. Both teams were unable to match their codes and clocked out at the 10 minute marks. They got their final clues and headed out for the Botanical Garden in the same taxis that brought them to the mint. Meanwhile, Charla & Mirna arrived (maybe even overlapped a little) and they started the task. But after ten minutes they were also clocked out. Mirna figures out that the reason (or at least an arguable reason) why they could not match the code was because production had indicated the number "10" for the BQs on their list of teams (see the smudged out "1" to leave just "0"). She raises hell (:;) about it and production decides to reel back the other teams for a redo. Just like they did with Season 9's flags. Eric, you are cursed. :lol:
Some supporting evidence for my theory is that shot of Eric & Danielle's taxi through Dustin & Kandice taken along Fell St near Masonic. That location is on the way from the Mint to the Botanical Garden. And in the shot, the BQs are in their original taxi that they got from the airport. The reason this is special is that in the version that was aired we have the BQs leaving 6 min or so after D&E. And we see them have to go across Market St to fetch a new taxi (yellow SUV style) from in front of Renaissance Park 55 Hotel. You can see the difference between the two taxis by the shapes of the windows and the stickers in the windows. So how else could they have ever had a shot of the two teams together in their original taxis over by the Botanical Garden? And for the task redo, maybe production had alternate sets of questions that could be substituted if there was any problems.
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Post by: puddin on May 13, 2007, 12:17:40 AM
Oh and Chateau :luvu: :fan: :flirt:
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 13, 2007, 12:38:07 AM
Micheal needs to ask the BQs who won the first race to the finish mat!
Post by: michael on May 13, 2007, 12:39:37 AM
well...anyways, i've asked Sam to ask Mirna and we'll see if he does!
Post by: georgiapeach on May 13, 2007, 07:15:01 AM
Mirna is fielding questions over in Sam's forum Chateau--go ask!
BigPapi--can you ask Eric?
Darn--wish we could have asked this at TARcon!
Ian said he would be willing to be a resource for us--I'll email him too!
Post by: Chateau d If on May 13, 2007, 01:16:01 PM
Where is this Sam's forum? We should ask Mirna why their taxi was going down those classic "Streets of San Francisco" streets. I don't think that is the way to the Mint or to the Botanical Gardens. ???
Post by: michael on May 13, 2007, 01:21:43 PM
I said: "Was there a task before (or after?) the Mint, and did you have to re-shoot the task at the mint?"
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MichaelD, MIRNA
Looks like Mirna is online! Maybe she will answer!
Post by: Chateau d If on May 13, 2007, 01:39:49 PM
Can you also ask Mirna why they had to change taxis in San Francisco?
Post by: georgiapeach on May 13, 2007, 05:22:14 PM
And to the Mirna Q&A section: http://z4.invisionfree.com/charlaandmirna/index.php?showtopic=14
I think you can post as a guest Chateau--please do ask as I'm sure you can explain it best!
Now I'm so curious!
Maybe Eric will have an answer!
Post by: michael on May 13, 2007, 05:43:08 PM
Post by: Chateau d If on May 14, 2007, 11:21:55 AM
This shot in Charla & Mirna's taxi (when they bumped their heads on the ceiling) was taken here on Oak St going east from the Botanical Gardens BACK to the Old Mint. You can see two tall buildings in the distance that match perfectly with Google Earth's tilt view with 3D buildings turned on. The building that is straight ahead and rotated wrt Oak St stands out clearly. This only can be seen in one place in San Francisco. This view is unique to this exact spot.
At this point, I believe, Charla & Mirna are headed back to the Mint in their 2nd taxi after being told by production that they have to go back to do the task again.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 14, 2007, 11:52:43 AM
Mirna said here (http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/interview-charla-and-mirna-dish-about-being-amazing-underdogs-5146.php) in the RealityTV Interview that:
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And then it was a matter of being at the taxi stands to get the best taxi, and unfortunately our taxi driver had no idea where anything in San Francisco was. He also didn't have a working telephone, so it put us at a disadvantage. It was a little bit of an unlucky situation having to change taxis three times that day. So it really I think shows it a little differently than it truly was. We arrived at [Old Mint, the site of the All-Stars' final challenge] just as [All-Stars' winning duo of Eric Sanchez and Danielle Turner] were finishing up.
Post by: Slowhatch on May 14, 2007, 01:13:55 PM
(Addition: SF is nice enough to put their taxi color schemes (http://www.sfgov.org/site/taxicommission_index.asp?id=45081) on a webpage. I'm not sure I'd want to ride in a cab with a giant grasshopper on the side :lol:)
Post by: georgiapeach on May 14, 2007, 02:15:32 PM
Post by: georgiapeach on May 14, 2007, 03:19:16 PM
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Finally, the last episode...the forced bunching obviously did not help us. When we all arrived in Oakland, it was a race to a clue box at the taxi stands. We were obviously last there and got the worst taxi. Our driver was clueless and his cell phone did not work. Needless to say Eric got first choice of taxis and we knew the Race was basically over for the rest of us. We all finished the Race not more than 2 hrs after arriving in Oakland. No, we did not redo any task, that is pretty absurd, that is never done. Our first clue was a picture of a house and we were supposed to find it. The clue said the house is where the Grateful Dead lived one summer. The house turned out to be on Haight and Ashberry streets, then there you found your next clue to go to the Mint, then from the Mint to the finish line.
For us personally, the day was a nightmare, our driver was not familiar with San Fransisco at all, he would not let us use his radio, and there was no other means of communication in his car, we kept showing the picture to people in cars on the streets until one girl noticed it. Eric later told me his taxi driver let him use his radio and he had the dispatcher use the internet to get the info while the BQs followed his car. Sad part is that we usually didn't like to follow people, so as usual we didn't.
At the house, we just kept asking people for the Mint location and directed our Taxi driver. But he was clueless and took us down a one way street. I finally got out and pulled Charla by the arm and ran the rest of the 1/8 mile to the Mint ourselves.
Everyone was there when we got there. All I saw was that Eric was finishing up when I went into the room. None of us knew that our teammates had to take part in this too. I had been studying every waking minute the last 3 days for a mental challenge (ie. flags, places visited, placing orders etc.) little did we expect a gossip quiz. When I finished (after about 95 seconds), I noticed people calling Charla to come in the room. About 1 minute later Eric and Danielle left. The BQ left about 8 minutes later, and we left a few minutes after that. But our driver had no idea were the botanical gardens were, so we stopped in front of a hotel to change taxis. There the BQs original driver was asking us for money saying they bailed on him without paying their fare. (I assume they changed taxis too). Our new driver insisted he knew where it was but he turned out to be more clueless than the first, luckily he had a map and I pointed where the Garden was. He took us to the wrong entrance and we had a 1/2 mile run on a gravel construction site. It was a nightmare, Charla kept falling on her wheelies and finally a woman came and helped me pull her. (you can seen that on Cbs website behind the scenes) The extra run took us about 12 minutes. The end.
Also about the dhows:
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The weather issue-well what do think? I can tell you we arrived at the dhows around early/mid afternoon (maybe 3pm). pulled a tab (1 of 3sets) and were told the dhow would take off at 10pm. At 10pm, when the next batch of the teams were just arriving at the location (U&J, D&K, Chas), we went back to the dhow to board and were told to come back at 5am the next day. We were not happy, but what could we do? I wondered how that would be pieced together, it was terrible like the rest of the editing. The next day it was totally smooth sailing, not a wave or cloud in sight and I don't remember it ever raining those 2 days. What do you think???
Post by: michael on May 14, 2007, 03:21:32 PM
Post by: michael on May 14, 2007, 03:27:44 PM
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second they stole our flight and Danny and Ozzy's flight in Zanzibar to Poland.
D/K got the the ticket agent as soon as it opened as well, and worked with the manager, and flirting didn't help them kick ass in challenges Mirna :knuckles: AND Dustin pounced on your arm after realizing that she doesn't need to take your crap.
Are we sure this is Mirna? She seems a little to bitter...
Post by: georgiapeach on May 14, 2007, 03:29:54 PM
And the information seems to all fit...
Post by: michael on May 14, 2007, 03:31:55 PM
Post by: strategery on May 14, 2007, 03:43:19 PM
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The clue said the house is where the Grateful Dead lived one summer. The house turned out to be on Haight and Ashberry [sic] streets, then there you found your next clue to go to the Mint, then from the Mint to the finish line.
I think this would explain Chateau's mysterious shot coming east on Oak St. Haight/Ashbury is close to Golden Gate Park so they had to backtrack back to the Mint, and from this map (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&saddr=Haight+St+%26+Ashbury+St,+San+Francisco,+San+Francisco,+California+94117,+United+States&daddr=88+Fifth+St.+San+Francisco&sll=37.77644,-122.426705&sspn=0.029647,0.05785&ie=UTF8&ll=37.776753,-122.427006&spn=0.029646,0.05785&z=14&om=1) Oak St. would seem to make sense. (Sorry to merely link -- I'm not so good with the pics.)
Oh, and there was a clue they actually had to "figger out"? And it wasn't shown? Sigh.
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Also the hood of the mystery car is red, which doesn't match any cab the racers took from the mint (if it's a cab at all).
Could that be one of the Friendly Cabs that (IIRC) E/D and D/K took out of Oakland? I think an example is in one of Chateau's shots -- it is red, white, and green, with the red as the top layer. It's not listed on that cool link to SF Cabs, but per it's own site (http://www.friendlycab.com/friendly_cab_003.htm) it's an East Bay i.e., Oakland not SF company.
ETA: Some info (http://www.inetours.com/Pages/SFNbrhds/Haight_Ashbury.html) about and a pic of the Greatful Dead house -- address is 710 Ashbury, a block south of Haight.
Post by: puddin on May 14, 2007, 05:46:00 PM
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There the BQs original driver was asking us for money saying they bailed on him without paying their fare. (I assume they changed taxis too).Oh they broke a rule :naughty:
Post by: michael on May 14, 2007, 05:50:27 PM
QuoteThere the BQs original driver was asking us for money saying they bailed on him without paying their fare. (I assume they changed taxis too).Oh they broke a rule :naughty:
Those are my little law breakers ;)
I love how Mirna is giving us all this behind the scenes stuff that I'm sure the producers would not want us to know LOL
Post by: georgiapeach on May 14, 2007, 06:03:47 PM
Post by: puddin on May 14, 2007, 06:12:32 PM
Nice detective work you guys & gals :happy:
Post by: michael on May 14, 2007, 06:14:29 PM
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Post by: strategery on May 14, 2007, 09:29:45 PM
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There the BQs original driver was asking us for money saying they bailed on him without paying their fare.
But didn't Mirna remember that she and the BQs had agreed to split cab fares for the rest of the race -- you know, because the BQs happened to be behind her on the same one lane road in South America. Payback's a bitch!
Post by: Chateau d If on May 15, 2007, 12:51:39 AM
So my original suspicion that there was an unshown task was right. I started thinking is was a call'em back/retake on the Mint task due to the locations seen from the taxis. But doing Haight Ashbury gets you going down the same streets (Fell, Oak).
So now we have taxi karma to pin the win on. E&D's driver had all the good stuff for a winning ride. Both the BQs and C&M had such frustrations with their drives that they had to dump them. That eats time.
I wonder if there has been a rule set up that forbids racers from doing what Colin did with the driver "Earl" where they called ahead for a capable and willing driver. That is an advantage worth doing something about.
Post by: Kogs on May 15, 2007, 08:14:16 AM
Hey Hey Strat, good to see you here! :jumpy:
So my original suspicion that there was an unshown task was right. I started thinking is was a call'em back/retake on the Mint task due to the locations seen from the taxis. But doing Haight Ashbury gets you going down the same streets (Fell, Oak).
So now we have taxi karma to pin the win on. E&D's driver had all the good stuff for a winning ride. Both the BQs and C&M had such frustrations with their drives that they had to dump them. That eats time.
I wonder if there has been a rule set up that forbids racers from doing what Colin did with the driver "Earl" where they called ahead for a capable and willing driver. That is an advantage worth doing something about.
chateau rememeber colin had to give them a credit card number and he game them a fake one, i dont think any racer since has been smart enough to come up with the stuff colin did.
Post by: strategery on May 15, 2007, 10:53:35 PM
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So my original suspicion that there was an unshown task was right.
And an awesome find, by the way, on them taking Oak St. east. And thanks also for getting Mirna to answer the question that (mostly) cleared everything up. (I'm still dubious that Mirna and the BQs changed cabs at the exact same place on the way to the finish line -- seems like an improbable coincidence -- but whatever.)
I just asked Mirna (anonymously) several more questions about edited-out tasks on other legs (e.g., fish-drying in Macau) -- we'll see whether it turns up anything.
Post by: Chateau d If on May 16, 2007, 12:27:22 AM
I think the show missed an opportunity to present a cute sequence of mapped Pink and Yellow lines twisting their way through the Streets of San Francisco trying to get to the epicenter of the Hippie culture. Just think of the music that they could use and the shots of Mirna getting slammed into the ceiling of her cab. :rotf:
About the cab changing, I think the BQs cab parked on 5th pointing toward Market while they did the Mint task (as did D&E's cab). They probably got started along 5th, crossed Market and decided to try for another cab as they saw the Renaissance Park 55 Hotel. It now looks like Charla & Mirna's cab made a left from Jessie onto 5th and crossed Market. And it looks like they had the same idea to try for a new taxi at the Hotel. That would become their 3rd cab in San Francisco. I don't know where they dumped the first one. It had to be sometime after the airport and before arriving at the mint.
Post by: red_sox on May 16, 2007, 02:51:03 AM
Post by: Slowhatch on June 03, 2007, 09:50:54 AM
Several months ago I wrote that A9 had given up its maps and that the guy responsible for the street photos had been hired by Google. Last week Google started showing the results: in certain cities a "street-level" function can be enabled. Below is a picture of the Grateful Dead house (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=710+ashbury+st,+san+francisco,+ca&sll=40.98099,-73.68381&sspn=0.074515,0.185738&ie=UTF8&om=1&layer=c&cbll=37.768761,-122.446661&cbp=1,107.305974929662,0.459845331218176,0&ll=37.772937,-122.446661&spn=0.009753,0.023217&z=16) (note the guy talking to the tourists and the police tape on the stairs ;D).
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Post by: puddin on June 03, 2007, 09:56:13 AM
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And the next day's headlines:
Google Crashes! Site mysteriously goes Dark! Camera Lens Shattered! Cause Unknown! :lol3:
Thank goodness they haven't made it to my neighborhood yet....BUT THEY AREN"T FAR!
**cue scary music**