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Archive => RFF Archived Boards => The Amazing Race All Stars Spoilers/Speculation => Topic started by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 01:37:14 PM
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April 1st Back to Back episodes :
Amazing Race 11, The - "If I Were In Town, I Would Ask For Your Number - Part 1"
Amazing Race 11, The - "If I Were In Town, I Would Ask For Your Number - Part 2"
CBS Press:
Frustration levels hit a high for one team when locals completely ignore then and refuse to help them,while another racer attempts to stop the plane by running out on the tarmac, on a special Two-Hour airing of The Amazing Race : All-Stars Sunday April 1, 8:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT.
"If I Were In Town, I Would Ask For Your Number" -- Teams head to Warsaw, Poland where a disagreement sparks an intense argument and name calling between teammates, on a special two-hour broadcast of THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS, Sunday, April 1 (8:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
Webclues:
* A disagreement sparks an intense argument and name calling between Eric & Danielle.
* Frustration levels hit a high for Charla & Mirna when locals completely ignore them and refuse to help.
*Joe attempts to stop a plane by running out on the tarmac.
Warsaw,Poland
33. (http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/freelancer2k/TAR11spoiler/intro/th_33.jpg) (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/freelancer2k/TAR11spoiler/intro/33.jpg) Boingo: Equestrian statue of King Jan III Sobieski, victor at Battle of Vienna (1683), trampling a vanquished Turk. Łazienki Park. Warsaw, Poland
EP5 gives us a confessional by the Guidos : "Eric & Danielle were kind of competing in a foot race like olympic atheletes ..and we out ran them"
credits to samiam (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg180202.html#msg180202) and the TAR Detectives :)
Lazienki Palace (http://www.lazienki-krolewskie.pl/)
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(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/Daniconfessional.jpg) ( picture credit tarflies)
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part1 nel part2 philimination or
part1 TBC and part2 philimination
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Uber leg?
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if it's an uber leg would that make it all leg 7?
because that would lead up to legs 12 and 13 both being able to air on May 6th for a 2 hour finale!
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No its two seperate legs Michael.. and keep dreaming for that 2 hour finale :angel:
4/1/07 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1107/1108)
Episode Detail: Amazing Race: All-Stars - Amazing Race: All-Stars
The seventh leg of the race. Phil Keoghan is the host.
Episode Detail: Amazing Race: All-Stars - Amazing Race: All-Stars
The eighth leg of the race. Phil Keoghan is the host.
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aww...oh well, i'll still hold out hope for that finale :jam:
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No its two seperate legs Michael.. and keep dreaming for that 2 hour finale :angel:
4/1/07 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1107/1108)
Episode Detail: Amazing Race: All-Stars - Amazing Race: All-Stars
The seventh leg of the race. Phil Keoghan is the host.
Episode Detail: Amazing Race: All-Stars - Amazing Race: All-Stars
The eighth leg of the race. Phil Keoghan is the host.
So let me see if I can figure all this out. :-\
Given the remaining racers on the elimination list:
7th: Teri & Ian
6th: Bill & Joe
5th: Uchenna & Joyce
4th: Danny & Oswald
Final 3: Charla & Mirna
Final 3: Eric & Danielle
Final 3: Dustin & Kandice
If Teri & Ian are toast in Tanzania/Zanzibar next Sunday (3/25), then could the double episodes on 4/1 be in Poland, given we don't have any flash vidcaps left for Africa after Tanzania?
That would mean the Guido's are safe in the first leg and then toast in the second Polish leg (given their confessional in a palace?). That would explain why there are no other Eurorean pitstops.
How does this work out later....5 legs with 5 teams remaining, and 4 known locations(Malaysia, HK/Macau, Guam, Hawaii/SF)
:groan: (that includes two more NEL). :umn: My brain hurts!
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Some thoughts on the time line:
We're pretty darn sure LEG5 ended on DEC 1st or Nov 30th?, TAR real time
that gives us roughly 6 or seven days before the teams hit Warsaw, Poland.
LEG6 Africa part 2, DEC 2nd to lets say DEC 3rd or 4th pitstop "grassy area"
that leaves us with an unexplained say Dec 4th to Dec 6th open time slot
either there is a
- third leg in Africa or
- maybe a mystery destination Europe
- OR 2 legs in Europe/Poland OR
- a extended pitstop somewhere stuck in there
Warsaw, Poland ( 12/7-12/8?)
Warsaw, Poland izad: (http://p085.ezboard.com/fsurvivorsucksfrm23.showMessageRange?topicID=7265.topic&start=1821&stop=1840) one leg Malaysia 12/9 to12/10 then off to Hong Kong
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In D/O mat chat one of them says something like "it's December 1st, world aids day!" so that basically confirms a December 1st finish for leg5.
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;D Given the Guido confessional vidcap at the "ritzy" looking location, we can assume they survived that leg. So if Teri/Ian are eliminated next week, then they have to be leaving Africa for Europe for the Guido confessional to hold up. I agree, there is a lot of extra time to account for. Two legs in Europe/Poland are almost assured before Malaysia, IMHO. ???
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In D/O mat chat one of them says something like "it's December 1st, world aids day!" so that basically confirms a December 1st finish for leg5.
Great!!thanks Michael! I hate Mondays and can't seem to catch up on anything (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/millan/mondaysmiley.gif)
I have some time now and help you look for that mystery Guido confessional place Boingo :happy:
eta: your a good helper Michael :jumpy:
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here's the vidcap of J/B in European location? It's in Poland yeah?
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Some thoughts on the time line:
We're pretty darn sure LEG5 ended on DEC 1st or Nov 30th?, TAR real time
that gives us roughly 6 or seven days before the teams hit Warsaw, Poland.
LEG6 Africa part 2, DEC 2nd to lets say DEC 3rd or 4th pitstop "grassy area"
that leaves us with an unexplained say Dec 4th to Dec 6th open time slot
either there is a
- third leg in Africa or
- maybe a mystery destination Europe
- OR 2 legs in Europe/Poland OR
- a extended pitstop somewhere stuck in there
Warsaw, Poland ( 12/7-12/8?)
Warsaw, Poland izad: (http://p085.ezboard.com/fsurvivorsucksfrm23.showMessageRange?topicID=7265.topic&start=1821&stop=1840) one leg Malaysia 12/9 to12/10 then off to Hong Kong
PUDDIN, you're asking the questions just like I would. My hunch (and it's a strong one) is that the first of the two 4/1 episodes will be in Africa, either Nairobi or Dar-es-Salaam. The second will be Warsaw. It really doesn't matter whether they are structured as NEL or TBC for the first one, since the second one will have to be an elimination to get rid of the Guidos, who do not make the flight to Kuala Lumpur. We know know the 5 teams that do thanks to IZAD.
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Speculation on the Episode Title: There was a helpful Fern for one of the teams in Africa/Poland, and the team would hang out with the Fern next time they come back to the place.
I've a question: are we thinking here that Hong Kong and Macau are two separate legs? Because over at Sucks, the major thought seems to be that both locations are visited in the same leg. So if the theory over at Sucks is true, where in the timeline can another leg be plausible (e.g. could it be two Europe legs after three Africa legs, or maybe another destination after Hong Kong/Macau and before Guam, B:)) I think this has already been discussed, so ignoring my blabbering is okay. ;D
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Speculation on the Episode Title: There was a helpful Fern for one of the teams in Africa/Poland, and the team would hang out with the Fern next time they come back to the place.
I've a question: are we thinking here that Hong Kong and Macau are two separate legs? Because over at Sucks, the major thought seems to be that both locations are visited in the same leg. So if the theory over at Sucks is true, where in the timeline can another leg be plausible (e.g. could it be two Europe legs after three Africa legs, or maybe another destination after Hong Kong/Macau and before Guam, B:)) I think this has already been discussed, so ignoring my blabbering is okay. ;D
hakushu, use this thread (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.0.html) for the time-line reference. Although the dates may not be 100% accurate we do have some good info found through blogs and such...something like this ...
Hong Kong Dec 12th--
Macau Dec 14th sighting
Guam 15?-16th to Hawaii - 16th to San Fran End City-17th
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Speculation on the Episode Title: There was a helpful Fern for one of the teams in Africa/Poland, and the team would hang out with the Fern next time they come back to the place.
I've a question: are we thinking here that Hong Kong and Macau are two separate legs? Because over at Sucks, the major thought seems to be that both locations are visited in the same leg. So if the theory over at Sucks is true, where in the timeline can another leg be plausible (e.g. could it be two Europe legs after three Africa legs, or maybe another destination after Hong Kong/Macau and before Guam, B:)) I think this has already been discussed, so ignoring my blabbering is okay. ;D
My only comment is that Sucks thinking it is so doesn't make it so in the face of evidence to the contrary. Hong Kong and Macau are separate episodes even though it appears that they are both going to be NEL or one TBC and the other NEL or even both TBC.
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I'm much in favor of two legs in Poland. There are umpteen places to go and do stuff in Poland, especially in Warsaw and Krakow. Not to overlook the possible visits to Czestochowa, Auschwitz, and Wieliczka Salt Mine.
Where can I see the Bill and Joe confessional? I might be able to spot the location.
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Where can I see the Bill and Joe confessional? I might be able to spot the location.
Yo gingerman, :yaya: we're over here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.1825.html) spoiling the Guido confessional at the TAR "Antiques Roadshow" Spoilers thread. ;D
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Where can I see the Bill and Joe confessional? I might be able to spot the location.
Yo gingerman, :yaya: we're over here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.1825.html) spoiling the Guido confessional at the TAR "Antiques Roadshow" Spoilers thread. ;D
Is there a link to the video? I've checked CBS and can't find it.
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makz3d there is no video, the confessional was on during EP5.
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makz3d there is no video, the confessional was on during EP5.
Thank you, must have missed. I'll check for it tomorrow when I get home from work.
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My waking moment today was the rationale for why I have the strong hunch that episode 7 is going to remain close by in Africa. There are two parts to this. The first is the report from PHIL that he had to return to a pitstop (it had to be on Zanzibar Island) with mosquitoes from 2 hours away due to late arrivals and a need to change its location. That means that the next pitstop has to be in Tanzania or Kenya. With the time factor critical because teams have to get to Warsaw or "miss the window" to get to Kuala Lumpur on time for when they were spotted there, the only places they could reasonably get to in 2 hours are the Dar-es-Salaam area and the Nairobi area.
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I'm much in favor of two legs in Poland. There are umpteen places to go and do stuff in Poland, especially in Warsaw and Krakow. Not to overlook the possible visits to Czestochowa, Auschwitz, and Wieliczka Salt Mine.
Yep. Me too. I like Europe locations.
With the way things are going, the route for TARAS is basically the same as that of TAR7. There are 4 SA legs, 3 Africa legs, 1 Europe leg, and 3 Asia legs. They just replaced a Caribbean location for a South Pacific one. And for TARAS, the Europe leg was before the Asia legs. :groan:
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I have copied over my post #169 from teh Intro Flash Screencaps thread here:
Stone Town
It may not have a particularly romantic name, but Stone Town is the old city and cultural heart of Zanzibar, little changed in the last 200 years. It is a place of winding alleys, bustling bazaars, mosques and grand Arab houses whose original owners vied with each other over the extravagance of their dwellings. This one-upmanship is particularly reflected in the brass-studded, carved, wooden doors - there are more than 500 different examples of this handiwork. You can spend many idle hours and days just wandering through the fascinating labyrinth of narrow streets and alleyways.
Stone Town was recently and deservedly declared a World Heritage Site by UNESCO. More information can be found at the UNESCO website.
Most of the houses that can be seen today were built in the 19th century when Zanzibar was one of the most important trading centres in the Indian Ocean region. The coraline rock of Zanzibar was a good building material, but it is also easily eroded.
The most visible element of Zanzibar's cultural heritage is represented in some of the outstanding architectural and historical landmarks of the Stone Town.
These include the Portuguese Fort (also known as "Old fort"), the House of Wonders (Beit-el-ajaib), the Palace Museum (formerly known as the Sultan's Palace), the Ithnaasheri Dispensary, Balnara Mosque, Bharmal building, the High Court, the Peace Memorial Museum, the Roman Catholic Cathedral and the Anglican Cathedral....quite a few isn't it!
The High Court, the Peace Memorial Museum, Bharmal Building and Stone Town's unique market, reflect British Colonial taste blended with Arabic architecture.
The intricately carved balconies of the Ithnaasheri dispensary reflect Colonial India's architecture while the Roman Catholic Cathedral reflects European Architecture.
The Anglican Cathedral has a combination of elements of Gothic and Islamic architecture.
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If eps 7 and 8 air on April 1 (or is this a poor April Fool's joke?) that would make the 13th or final ep on May 6 the first Sunday of the critical May sweeps. Not bad timing at all!
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I think:
EP7 - non elim,
EP8 - intersection/FF?
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I think:
EP7 - non elim,
EP8 - intersection/FF?
Yeah with 6 teams left at this point its time for that stupid intersection and for sure either the NEL or Uberleg as well as the Fast Forward..lol remember what happened to Tyler/James & Rob/Kim << they got so screwed with the Fast Forward LIPS! :lol3:
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Double Leg Appreciation BUMP
Man, I'm bored. :rat?:
Hey, double the legs, double the fun!! :yess:
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haha oh yes - that was a great episode :D
Well..... we did lose David & Mary that episode.. :'(
In TAR10 it was long overdue with their two NEL last-place finishes earning thenm Marked For Elimination status. Having the Chos fake out Dustin and Kandice once kept them in, but when on their own after finishing the intersection with Lyn/Karlyn Mary's "let's be nice guys" instincts sunk them. Saying bye-bye to Mary and David in TAR10 was appropriate and their invite to TAR11 was one of the great tragedies of our time.
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(cap 2 is a confessional from the Poland Palace from EP6 )
NEXT TIME ON .. THE AMAZING RACE:
Phil: Danielle loses patience with Eric.
Arguing, talking over each other.
D: Grow up!
Phil: Charla suits up to take on a formidable foe.
Charla trundles around in knight's garb, then gets tossed off a horse
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Video:
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Knights--woodcutter/peasant--dark forest....
Brothers Grimm anyone?
Looks like Black Forest or Eastern Europe, IMO...
:meow: Not much to work with here!
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or Medieval times ...
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This shot is still in Zanzibar at the House of WOnders
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What date are we on in TAR time?
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maybe not .. Medieval times (http://www.glogow.pl/iearn_gallery/index.php?cat=39)?
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Google medieval reenactments--tons of good stuff!
Warsaw medieval reenactments (http://www.warsawvoice.pl/archiwum.phtml/13218/)
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maybe not .. Medieval times (http://www.glogow.pl/iearn_gallery/index.php?cat=39)?
is there dinner and tournament at this medieval times??? :lol: :lol:
And of course--WENCHES! :lol:
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Medieval repro helmets
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Gniew Castle Tournament
The 13th century Teutonic castle in
Gniew, near Gda´nsk, is perched on
top of a hill surrounded by town
houses. Throughout the whole
year re-enactment events are organized
in Gniew: a show presenting
European crusaders recapturing
Christ’s grave in the Holy Land, a
colourful medieval banquet with
period costumes, music and menu,
including a favourite dish of Polish
knights – the “Saracen bone broth”
– jousting tournaments and more.
If you feel confident enough, you
can also try your hand at the bow
or crossbow. A programme called
“Life in a Medieval Castle” con-veys the atmosphere of the place
as it used to be, inhabited not only
by knights, but also monks, flagellants,
traders, beggars and other
colourful types. Every member of
the group can choose a role he or
she would like to play.
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What date are we on in TAR time?
PUDDIN, the Charla/Mirna and Oswald/Danny and Uchenna/Joyce and Dustin/Kandice arrivals at the dock in Dar-es-Salaam were on Saturday Dec. 2. Their trips across to Zanzibar and finsh at the pitstop were all on Sunday Dec. 3.
Eric/Danielle arrived at the dock Sunday late afternoon and finished up 3 hours behind U/J adn D/K Sunday night.
Joe/Bill and Ian/Teri got across to Zanzibar late Sunday night, but hours of operation stopped them until Monday morning Dec. 4 at the museum. After that, they went through the rungu toss and to the pitstop fairly quickly.
I predict that there will be a mass bunching of the top 5 teams getting to the next site, which I still think has to be Africa and probably in the Nairobi area. The Guidos will be left behind because they are almost 24 hours behind C/M and O/D and about 20 hours behind U/J and D/K.
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Gniew Castle Tournament
The 13th century Teutonic castle in
Gniew, near Gda´nsk, is perched on
top of a hill surrounded by town
houses. Throughout the whole
year re-enactment events are organized
in Gniew: a show presenting
European crusaders recapturing
Christ’s grave in the Holy Land, a
colourful medieval banquet with
period costumes, music and menu,
including a favourite dish of Polish
knights – the “Saracen bone broth”
– jousting tournaments and more.
If you feel confident enough, you
can also try your hand at the bow
or crossbow. A programme called
“Life in a Medieval Castle” con-veys the atmosphere of the place
as it used to be, inhabited not only
by knights, but also monks, flagellants,
traders, beggars and other
colourful types. Every member of
the group can choose a role he or
she would like to play.
PEACH, nice stuff and I'm not saying it couldn't happen but GDANSK is about 180 miles from WARSAW. That's a considerable distance to go to and from. Closer alternatives would be a better bet.
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Thanks apskips!!
from Phil's interview...
We were in Europe this last time, and the teams got so spread out, and that's part of what made the whole series tough this time is that the separation was huge.
And there was a spread of seventeen hours from the first team to the last team [one time].
So the first team had left, and I was still waiting five hours in the middle of the night, in this cold location.
The only place to be was on the floor of an old building. This one journalist was like, "Wow, you're on the ground trying to sleep?" And I go, "Yeah, it's not like I can go back and lie down in a hotel."
At one point we didn't get to a hotel for almost four days. When we did get to a hotel, we were checked in for two hours. I took a shower, slept for an hour, got woken up and didn't even have time to unpack my bags, and we were gone again.
You just have to do the math. I still have to get in a vehicle and get from point A to point B, and still wait. The only time we're really stationary is at the pit stops, and the longer they leave us waiting there, the more of a nightmare our schedule becomes. For instance, in that European leg, the first team had a five hour head start on us leaving!
Five hours is a long time.
They get on a flight ahead of you to the next place, and then you get on the ground and I'm meant to go explain the Detail, Roadblock, Yield or Fast Forward before I get to the Pit Stop.
Well, if they've got a five hour lead, they're already through all those challenges, sometimes, and I've got to go straight to the pit stop. Then we've got to work out how I can back track, to go back to these places. Now if it's a two or three hour drive or a plane ride, it becomes a nightmare. It's not a picnic. And I love it, by the way! I carry my own bags and all the rest of it.
IGN (http://tv.ign.com/articles/765/765692p4.html)
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The Guidos will be left behind because they are almost 24 hours behind C/M and O/D and about 20 hours behind U/J and
D/K.
Major Déjà vu moment here for the Guidos. :rotf:
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Okay-- but am I on the right track here?
I think some of the next week will stay in Zanzibar ---swimming with dolphins anyone? :lol: -- henna painting--and then on to Poland...
More Polish medieval reenactment stuff (http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29777)--Battle of Grunwald??
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..JOE :lol3:
* A disagreement sparks an intense argument and name calling between Eric & Danielle.
* Frustration levels hit a high for Charla & Mirna when locals completely ignore them and refuse to help.
*Joe attempts to stop a plane by running out on the tarmac.
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FWIW
Polish Cavalryman stuff (http://www.answers.com/topic/towarzysz-husarski)
Medieval Reenactment stuff:
Brotherhood of Sword and Crossbow
Maciej Wygnanski Dusznicka 46
Warsaw Poland 04-904
Tel : 12-96-87
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Grunwald and Teutonic Castle Tours (http://www.ridingholidays.com/poland.htm) :ride:
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the best I can do ..
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..JOE :lol3:
* A disagreement sparks an intense argument and name calling between Eric & Danielle.
* Frustration levels hit a high for Charla & Mirna when locals completely ignore them and refuse to help.
*Joe attempts to stop a plane by running out on the tarmac.
Jesus The Guidos and Airports......
Thats just :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
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He will be lucky not to get arrested, lol.
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I have a crazy idea about how U/J fall behind in Malaysia!
Next week is a 2 hr episode, first hour = non elimination, and the second hour there is an intersection. C/M, D/O, D/K, E/D, U/J will all be equalized, and J/B will be so far behind still...well, one of these teams is going to have to work with J/B and I bet it's U/J and they get screwed and never catch up - then poof- gone!
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Oh my that would be twisted.....
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Thanks Chateau
Boy they better hope next leg is a non elimination or a TBC. IT looks like they might ned the equilizers from ywo legs to help them.
Of course we still know what happens in the end, but it could be from just poor racing as well.
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Oh my that would be twisted.....
It would, wouldn't it?
But it makes sense if you think about it! Why else would U/J be so far behind in Malaysia? Last season the intersection came on leg 8 also.
Hopefully D/K kick ass on the intersection leg again...and every other leg!
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:jumpy:
Frustration levels hit a high for one team when locals completely ignore then and refuse to help them,while another racer attempts to stop the plane by running out on the tarmac, on a special Two-Hour airing of The Amazing Race : All-Stars Sunday April 1, 8:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT.
"If I Were In Town, I Would Ask For Your Number" -- Teams head to Warsaw, Poland where a disagreement sparks an intense argument and name calling between teammates, on a special two-hour broadcast of THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS, Sunday, April 1 (8:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network
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:wohoo:
nice picture puddin!
where is it from?!
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;D Yep, it's Warsaw.
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charla and mirna carrying more things i love it!!!!!!! :yess: :lol: :lol:
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Can we take the time line to the EP6 thread and keep this for the EP7/8 thread untill it is sorted out :luvya:?
( ETA: I moved the timeline posts to the EP6 thread to be discussed there)
Video (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=127267&ord=97395.53652853638) is up screencaps on the way....
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I like the boat at the Water Palace.
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And piano tuning. Warsaw's airport is named after Frederic Chopin (http://www.lotnisko-chopina.pl/katalog/informacje/en/informacje.php)
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I think ep7 starts out in Zansibar. Note in last night's promo shot of E and D getting into van that matches the vans used in Z from last night (also right hand drive which means former English colony). Can anyone get a good CU of Eric's watch in the van? There is a lot of reflection and the best I can do is estimate that it reads 4:15.
They are casting a fairly long shadow which means either early morning or late afternoon.
In the new sceencaps, we see U and J leaving the Old Fort shortly after or before sunrise which would match their estimated arrival time.
There was mention in the screencap that "while traveling in Poland" and there were references to "the train". So perhaps the teams do go to at least two locations in Poland: Krakow and Warsaw. These two cities are about nine hours apart by road, or two hours by air. So this may have something to do with Phil's previous mention of a "two hour charter plane flight, or nine hours by road."
And note that Phil is seen with the greeter on a vacant "grassy field" which could be in fact part of Lazienki Park. It also looks like it must be at sunset (the sun is lowdown through the trees) and some shots with C/M are at night.
Shot of Mirna and Charla with the Piano certainly relates someway with Chopin. This could be the Ostrogski Palace which is the site for the Fredrick Chopin Museum. Another location could be Myslewicki Palace in Lazienki Park where he gave many recitals.
We also have shot of Danny or Oswald in a rowboat. This looks like lake in Lazienki Park in front of the Palace on the Water.
Now we have two possible ROADBLOCK TASKS: Row a boat on Lazienki Lake and Dress in full armour and take part in a mock tournament. My guess is that one task may happen around somewhre else and the second in Warsaw. Each one would be part of different eps.
So my guess is that Ep7 starts in Zanzibar, goes on to Warsaw by plane. This is a non-elimination ep.
Ep 8 goes to Warsaw, and then perhaps is scheduled to go somewhere else, (perhaps they were going to Krakow, but don't) but since everything is delayed, the final pit stop is on "that grassy field" in Warsaw. The only thing that throws cold water on this scenario is the fact that "they were there all night and pestered by mosiquitos" Mosquitos in Warsaw in December?
Shot of C and M carrying the statue could be in front of either the Zacheta (National Contemporary Art Galllery) National Museum
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Qantas Airlines ? ?
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Ep 8 goes to Warsaw, and then perhaps is scheduled to go somewhere else, (perhaps they were going to Krakow, but don't) but since everything is delayed, the final pit stop is on "that grassy field" in Warsaw. The only thing that throws cold water on this scenario is the fact that "they were there all night and pestered by mosiquitos" Mosquitos in Warsaw in December?
Gman, Phil said this happened in Africa and ...
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whats the last part with phil saying i wouldnt kid you, wonder if they come in 5th this leg
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:jumpy: Mirna & Schmirna are walking past the Holy Trinity Church and Zacheta Art Gallery in Warsaw.
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so I take it charla and mirna arent hours ahead for once?
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Oh I bet they are ahead Michael!! listen to what Phil says ...
Presidential Palace, Warsaw
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it sounds more like a "i wouldn't kid you, you aren't last" kind of thing
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Or they are just team number one again. Don't they maintain a lead for the Batu cave place?
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well - for all we know they pull an africa and just take a risk with another flight going to Malaysia
That shot of phil and the greater in daylight looks like the offical "first team to arrive, first glance at phil" shot.
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How about "I wouldn't kid you--you are STILL racing!" Hence our two hour episode next week--a TBC?
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;D I wonder if the pitstop greeter in Warsaw is suppost to be Józef Antoni Poniatowski, the son of the brother of the last king of Poland. (or just some 19th century military officer....but the blue sash implies nobility) :-\
Poniatowski, Józef Anton, Prince (yū'zĕf än'tôn pônyätôf'skē) , 1763–1813, Polish general and marshal of France; nephew of Stanislaus II. He fought (1792) the Russians in the campaign preceding the second Polish partition and in the insurrection led (1794) by Thaddeus Kosciusko. He became minister of war of the grand duchy of Warsaw set up by Napoleon I and in 1809 led the Polish troops in Napoleon's campaign against Austria. He again commanded under Napoleon in the Russian campaign of 1812. In the battle of Leipzig he covered the withdrawal of the French troops; then, cut off from aid, he plunged his mount into a river and was drowned.
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plus the sun looks like its going down in those shots, i serioulsy doubt mirna and charla managed to get that much of a lead over the other teams again
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How about "I wouldn't kid you--you are STILL racing!" Hence our two hour episode next week--a TBC?
they woudln't have a greater for that peach
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Or they are just team number one again. Don't they maintain a lead for the Batu cave place?
Thats how I took it Chateau..they check in at night and the other teams in the daylight..( silent yay)
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Or they are just team number one again. Don't they maintain a lead for the Batu cave place?
Thats how I took it Chateau..they check in at night and the other teams in the daylight..( silent yay)
would it help if we knew weather it is sun rise or sun set (deja vu?) LOL
if it's sun set i think c/m are behind, if it's sunrise they are clearly ahead
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How about "I wouldn't kid you--you are STILL racing!" Hence our two hour episode next week--a TBC?
they woudln't have a greater for that peach
oh....thanks kogs!
Boingo great intown and greeter pics!
There are cute gondalas for rent at the Palace on the Water--but I can't find pics of ordinary rowboats yet.
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Or they are just team number one again. Don't they maintain a lead for the Batu cave place?
Thats how I took it Chateau..they check in at night and the other teams in the daylight..( silent yay)
would it help if we knew weather it is sun rise or sun set (deja vu?) LOL
if it's sun set i think c/m are behind, if it's sunrise they are clearly ahead
Yep, that's it Mike LOL. I was ready to post that but you beat me to it. :jam: I think that the Chas may have overtaken them.
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I never trust the Phil-on-the-mat-waiting-for-racer shots. Like last night it was going shadow-sun-shadow while teams checked in. They can take those shots all day long with or without a team there.
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Or they are just team number one again. Don't they maintain a lead for the Batu cave place?
Thats how I took it Chateau..they check in at night and the other teams in the daylight..( silent yay)
would it help if we knew weather it is sun rise or sun set (deja vu?) LOL
if it's sun set i think c/m are behind, if it's sunrise they are clearly ahead
:knuckles: Don't even go there Michael !! :lol:
I never trust the Phil-on-the-mat-waiting-for-racer shots. Like last night it was going shadow-sun-shadow while teams checked in. They can take those shots all day long with or without a team there.
No kidding, lol !!
Boingo :waves: , thank you!!
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I think it's definitely...
Phil: Charla, Mirna, you're team number one!
Phil: However, this leg is not over
Charla/Mirna: Are you kidding?
Phil: I wouldn't kid with you!
totally makes sense for a to be continued at this point in the race...plus the double episode...
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There has got to be a FF coming, dont you think?? So maybe the pit stop in the light is because a team got the FF amd came earlier, or maybe not.
Cause with Malaysia coming next where else would two FF, two Yield fit in in 3 legs? There are none in the final leg, and all teams were seen in Guam so at least no FF there right?
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Qantas Airlines ? ?
I am also perplexed by this. It doesn't make sense since Qantas has no African routes and no intra-european routes. They do have long-haul routes from London or Frankfurt to Singapore or Bangkok. these are ideal for the middle leg of a 3-leg trip from Warsaw to Kuala Lumpur. However, that will be in episode 9 unless I am totally confused. What is Qantas doing in this episode? If you have an idea, please speak up.
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Stock photo? :lol:
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Stock photo? :lol:
DING!!!!! they also use stock footage.
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OK, I finally got to watch the promo with sound - now, Mirna does not sound happy - so my guess is either they are very close to the bottom (which would make sense since they are seen doing tasks at around what looks like sun set) or this leg is not over and they must continue (which is also highly likely!)
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No as Kogs said if Phil were telling C/M that it was a TBC he would not have a greeter with him at the pitstop.
Charla/Mirna had a two hour lead in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.0.html), one team..assumes Ucheena & Joyce report to be delayed on their flight.
Yes there could be a Fast Foward Yield on all legs only shown if it is used..
from Phil's interview...
They get on a flight ahead of you to the next place, and then you get on the ground and I'm meant to go explain the Detail, Roadblock, Yield or Fast Forward before I get to the Pit Stop.
Well, if they've got a five hour lead, they're already through all those challenges, sometimes, and I've got to go straight to the pit stop. Then we've got to work out how I can back track, to go back to these places. Now if it's a two or three hour drive or a plane ride, it becomes a nightmare. It's not a picnic. And I love it, by the way! I carry my own bags and all the rest of it.
IGN (http://tv.ign.com/articles/765/765692p4.html)
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OK, I finally got to watch the promo with sound - now, Mirna does not sound happy - so my guess is either they are very close to the bottom (which would make sense since they are seen doing tasks at around what looks like sun set) or this leg is not over and they must continue (which is also highly likely!)
Your insane!!.. :groan:
Charla: are you kidding ?
Phil: I wouldn't kid with you.
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yes but listen to the WAY she says are you kidding me, if he said you are team number one they would most likley sound more excited
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DING!!!!! they also use stock footage.
Yep, all the time. Here's C/M from last night "taking a chance" by going through LA on the way to Dar. ;D
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Lazienki Palace
To be correct, this palace, one of many in Lazienki Park, is known as The Palace on the Water
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Lazienki Palace
To be correct, this palace, one of many in Lazienki Park, is known as The Palace on the Water
:lol: or Łazienki Palace [ɫaˈʑenki] (Polish: Pałac Łazienkowski) also called Palace on the Water (Polish: Pałac na Wodzie) or Palace on the Isle (Polish: Pałac na Wyspie) is a Neoclassical palace in Łazienki Park in Warsaw.
I've even read " Palace on the Lake".
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To me it definitely sounds like Charla/Mirna are happy that they barely survived. Team number 5 or so. Or even perhaps last on a non-elim.
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Okay are we assuming that the Pit Stop we see is the end of the 2cd epiosde?
Where are we expecting the first leg to end?
And do we see the GUidos doing any taks that we assume are int eh 2cd leg?
Because I am working on the assumption of some form of non elimination in episode #7. But if there isn't then, there could certainly be a non elimination round (where we do see the greater) and still be done to the correct number of teams as an option.
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Could be we don't even see the first pitstop? Take for instance Season 6 (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race6/show/ep06/index4.shtml) cliffhanger Budapest.
eta: or Season10 (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race10/shows/ep09/race/story/), internet Cafe
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Yeah, for the double leg 3 times we see a Mat with Phil, twice without.
I am wondering if it is something possible with all the footage we have (espeically one of the interviews) if its possible that The Guidos get booted at the end of leg #7, and that teh Pit Stop we see with Charla & Mirna might be a non elimination leg at teh end of episode 8.
It would allow the possiblitity for them not being in first, and still match the boot list order, and explain why a greater is there (since for non elimination they are, just not TBC).
Also based on the Beach scene, I think its safe to assume at the very least a 24 hour pit Stop, though 36 is certainly possible.
Though of course it is also very possible that Charla & Mirna are in first when they check in and its the later teams that get there when its light out (say The Guidos).
Damn, this is going ot be a rough week, with probably the same number of previews and yet two damn legs to cover.
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Okay are we assuming that the Pit Stop we see is the end of the 2cd epiosde?
Where are we expecting the first leg to end?
And do we see the GUidos doing any taks that we assume are int eh 2cd leg?
Because I am working on the assumption of some form of non elimination in episode #7. But if there isn't then, there could certainly be a non elimination round (where we do see the greater) and still be done to the correct number of teams as an option.
mswood, I hope I don't have to repeat my number of episodes remaining argument to you(it's already in an earlier post). One out of every 2 episodes plus one extra has be to Non-Elim or TBC. There are only 2 teams left to be eliminated before Guam and there are 5 episodes to go. Episode 7 must be non-elim or TBC or somenthing is very rotten in POLAND.
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Schmirna looks fairly happy @ the pitstop, so I take it tht their not last.
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DONT forget tht the sun sets late in Europe, probably, I wood say, uh, around 10 or 11 in Poland.
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It would allow the possiblitity for them not being in first, and still match the boot list order, and explain why a greater is there (since for non elimination they are, just not TBC).
It's not like they have to come first or get eliminated, so even if they are fourth or fifth it would match up with the "are you kidding me" tone from Mirna.
Does the sun set that late even at the beginning of December?
I used a site and apparently the sun sets at 3:22 on December 6th - 2006....that can't be right? Can it?
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It would allow the possiblitity for them not being in first, and still match the boot list order, and explain why a greater is there (since for non elimination they are, just not TBC).
It's not like they have to come first or get eliminated, so even if they are fourth or fifth it would match up with the "are you kidding me" tone from Mirna.
Does the sun set that late even at the beginning of December?
I used a site and apparently the sun sets at 3:22 on December 6th - 2006....that can't be right? Can it?
Absolutely, in Universal time, which is Greenwich mean time. You have to adjust it to the time zone you are in. In this case I presume we are talking Zanzibar, which is GMT + 3. So add 3 hours and you get 622pm which sounds right since Zanzibar is near the far western end of that time zone and they are near the equator.
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Apskip
I understand how many teams have to be eliminated and in what order.
My only question is what precludes teh Guidos from being eliminated in episode 7 as opposed to 8.
As far as I can tell we know we have an extended Pit Stop of at leat 36 hours after leg 6 (thanks to the beach scene, its the only way Eric & Danielle could be there with Charla & Mirna and Oswald & Danny).
It could even be a 48 hour Pit Stop (that has happened a couple times over the years).
Lets use Season 5's format, for example.
In which leg 5 is the first non elimination point, where Uchenna & Joyce are saved.
Leg 6. Teri & Ian are eliminated
Leg 7 (especially if it does get to Poland) could have Joe & Bill eliminated or run over on the tarmac.
Leg 8 Non elimination of some form, I have been assuming that the shot we see is from leg 8 (though it could be leg 7).
Leg 9-Another non elimination of some kind. And this still gives us the Guidos gone in Poland, and UJ in the Baku caves.
Leg 10 a team is eliminated (Uchenna & Joyce and it could be the occurance of the Baku Caves) or one of the other two points (Hong Kong and what is the other possability of a Pit Stop that we haven't for sure nailed down.
Leg 11 a none elimination of some kind. and the Pit Stop at either Hong Kong or that other possable Pit Stop loaction.
Leg 12. Guam with Oswald & Danny eliminated (NOOOOOO!!!!)
Leg 13 final leg with finale three and a stop in San Fran.
That is a copy of the season 5 elimination/Non elimination pattern.
Why wouldn't it work here?
Or I am I just not seeing 2 + 2=4.
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I used this site:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=262
If the sun really does set that early that makes it even more likely that C/M are ahead because that would mean they would have to be there the day before the other teams BEFORE 4 PM
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the weatherunderground is a good site too ..what day are we looking at?
heres DEC 6th (http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/EPWA/2006/12/6/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA)
Astronomy for December 6, 2006:
Actual Time:Rise: 7:28 AM CET Set: 3:24 PM CET
Civil Twilight: 6:48 AM CET 4:05 PM CET
Nautical Twilight: 6:05 AM CET 4:48 PM CET
Astronomical Twilight: 5:24 AM CET 5:29 PM CET
Moon: 4:04 PM CET (12/6) 9:37 AM CET (12/6)
Length Of Visible Light: 9h 16m
Length of Day: 7h 56m
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OK - what would REALLY help would be if we had a shot of C/M with any of the other teams! Then we would know for sure if they were all on the same day or if C/M are a day ahead or not!
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Could this be the Chas running to the pit stop:
(notice the white building in the back of both photos)
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also note: the sky appears to be the same colour
I think this shot of the BQs is at the detour since she has a detour card in her hand, but it could also be them going to the pit stop I guess, because Oswald also has a race card in his hand:
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I'm using small pictures heres my photobucket (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/?start=all) and as always your all welcome to it.
"If I Were In Town, I Would Ask For Your Number" -- Teams head to Warsaw, Poland
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Teams trying to get out of Zanzibar, whatever
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* A disagreement sparks an intense argument and name calling between Eric & Danielle.
*Teams head to Warsaw, Poland where a disagreement sparks an intense argument and name calling between teammates.
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*Joe attempts to stop a plane by running out on the tarmac.
*while another racer attempts to stop the plane by running out on the tarmac
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Roadblock
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_26Mar0030.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_26Mar0032.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_26Mar0033.jpg) Charla
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00543-26-2007.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/00543-26-2007.jpg) one of the BQ's?
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Tasks/ Detours
Haul/dress?/deliver a mannequin
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Tune a piano
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paddle ride/ lake in Łazienki Park
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00483-26-2007.jpg) Cha's
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Pitstop
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Pitstop confessionals / Łazienki Palace / Palace on the water
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/th_index-1.jpg) Joe:"Eric & Danielle were kind of competing in a foot race like olympic atheletes ..and we out ran them"
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_Daniconfessional.jpg)Dani:...Eric & I (?developing) is definitely important because Eric & I are both forming opinions about each other..Eric is very stubborn sometimes but I don't just lay back and let it just let him take charge.
picture credits tarflies
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misc~
* Frustration levels hit a high for Charla & Mirna when locals completely ignore them and refuse to help.
*Frustration levels hit a high for one team when locals completely ignore then and refuse to help them.
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Boingo : Mirna & Schmirna are walking past the Holy Trinity Church and Zacheta Art Gallery in Warsaw.
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Oh wait - nevermind :happy:
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I think my hearing is going ..can someone help me fill in the (?) :lol:
eta: nevermind thanks to my laptop
VO: on Sundays Amazing race all-stars tension is high
Mirna: I'm tired of having to do everything for us
VO: the stakes even higher
* Eric/Dee & the Guidos *
Danielle: ..we can't get on the plane thats right in front of us
Joe waving down a plane :HEY..WAIT!!
Bill: I'm telling you something right now, temper
Joe: fine
VO: and when your traveling through Poland, frustration can be unbearable
Mirna: nobody wants to talk to us..maybe they've never seen a little person?
VO: its a two hour special not to be missed!
Charla: are you kidding?
Phil: I wouldn't kid with ya
VO: A new Amazing Race All Stars CBS Sunday
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LOL puddin, i don't know what they are saying there either
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better or no?
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Yeah - I'd say D/O are going to the pit stop. What are my blondies doing though?
I see the guidios catch up to Eric and Danielle.
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They are Rockettes and probably twirling? :elvis:
Since Boingo identified the greeter as Józef Antoni Poniatowski/ look alike :lol: the Pałac Prezydencki or Presidential Palace/ The Polish White House/Radziwill Palace , which I think is the background where the BQ's are twirling? might be the best place to find the pitstop?
heres the eguide tour (http://um.warszawa.pl/v_syrenka/perelki/panoramy/palac_prezydencki_en.php)
see.. (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/00683-26-2007.jpg)
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Yeah - that pole looks about right!
Maybe they are running to the pit stop and are finally going to get first place and I'll be very happy!
PS: only one is a Rockette :P
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3 pages of Lazienki Park (http://www.przedszkole289.pl/fotogaleria/lazienkikrolewskie/index.html) pictures.
eta: pages of pictures...
Łazienki Królewskie galleria (http://www.oeiizk.edu.pl/sztuka/wyczolkowski/lazie/) ( links to the left )
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Wait, I'm confused, what do we think the pit stop is for this episode? That white house thing with the lamp post, or that water palace?
Hopefully it's the white house! MAYBE the blondies will come in first!
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The park is near the palace or the The Royal Route.
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The park is near the palace or the The Royal Route.
what park?
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I agree with the others; (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/00183-26-2007.jpg) that looks like a tuning lever (http://www.piano-tuning.com/Piano-Tuning-Lessons-List.aspx?CategoryID=1) she's holding.
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With the e-map that Puddin provided and the buildings that Boingo found, I've spotted C/M's attempts at hailing a cab to an area just south of Pilsudski place (also called Saxon place). There are Chopin places and theaters and opera houses nearby, but it's hard to tell how long and how far they had to walk to get a cab (they are way behind the Chas at the pitstop, right?)
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Apparently, and from the colour of the sky it looks like "to hot to handle" are behind D/K as well! GO BQs! this is your leg...(i hope) :groan:
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The park is near the palace or the The Royal Route.
what park?
Lazienki Park :waves:
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With the e-map that Puddin provided and the buildings that Boingo found, I've spotted C/M's attempts at hailing a cab to an area just south of Pilsudski place (also called Saxon place). There are Chopin places and theaters and opera houses nearby, but it's hard to tell how long and how far they had to walk to get a cab (they are way behind the Chas at the pitstop, right?)
:-\ Yeah, I spent a couple hours earlier today trying to figure out where they were coming from/going to. The Warsaw University is nearby, so is the National Theatre, and other places they could be tuning the piano. If they are getting a cab, then they will be traveling toward the National Theatre to the north in the map. Anyone know where Lazienki Park is in relation to Saxon Gardens?
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ETA: OK, never mind, I found a map. Lazienki Park is due south via the "Royal Route" ( a major street). Looks like the tasks could be within a very small area.
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Is that the pitstop?
LOL im so lost right now...i woke up really early today sorry!
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Is that the pitstop?
LOL im so lost right now...i woke up really early today sorry!
We don't know yet, but it looks like the Chas go boating in Lazienki Park.
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Complete zoomable Warsaw Map (http://www.euroave.com/maps/00mapx.php?xcity=warsaw)
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lol, I got side tracked looking for the Knight event ??? ..too bad its so dark.
this map has a dropdown
http://www.um.warszawa.pl/v_syrenka/virtual/virtual_panel.htm
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I'm sticking all the good ones in Maps if anyone needs one...
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The floors sure look like the Palace on the lake ..but who knows what other places has the same floors :lol:?
Lord know how hard it is to get inside that place ..right guys?
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The floors sure look like the Palace on the lake ..but who knows what other places has the same floors :lol:?
Lord know how hard it is to get inside that place ..right guys?
:groan: Ha, tell me about it. I've screamed myself silly, yelling at my computer for that dude to take a picture of the fireplace at the other end of the room. :lol:
Not sure about the walls, but the floor sure looks similar. :-\
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I call it as the official Pałac na Wodzie Tune Up Room :rotf:
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The floors sure look like the Palace on the lake ..but who knows what other places has the same floors :lol:?
Lord know how hard it is to get inside that place ..right guys?
:groan: Ha, tell me about it. I've screamed myself silly, yelling at my computer for that dude to take a picture of the fireplace at the other end of the room. :lol:
Not sure about the walls, but the floor sure looks similar. :-\
Will this do Boingo !!
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:wohoo: You got it, great job! I knew they couldn't keep you out. :jumpy: (The clock is showing a different time; it may even be operational ;D)
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tease!! :hearts:
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This picture was taken between 10:53 and 11:10 am (assumes December 3,4,5 ?).
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Thanks Chateau!!
Slowhatch..
Heres the links ..the first set came from here (http://www.lookgaleria.pl/?s=kolekcje&k=00059#top) labeled:
Kominek w Sali Jadalnej („obiadów czwartkowych”), Łazienki Królewskie, Warszawa
The second one from a PDF here (http://www.lookgaleria.pl/katalogi/lazienki_palac.pdf).
And a panorama (http://www.rajnet.pl/panorama04/centrum.htm) of the outside just for the heck of it
eta: I guess the rooms are called:
Warszawa
Pałac w Łazienkach (VIII w. proj. D. Merlini) - Sala Jadalna, Sala Balowa, Sala Salomona, Galeria Obrazów, Gabinet Królewski
and Kominek is a fireplace? imagine that! :lol:
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:wohoo: puddin!
That one officially goes in the "I can't believe you found it" book!
Great (miraculous!) job!
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Apskip
I understand how many teams have to be eliminated and in what order.
My only question is what precludes teh Guidos from being eliminated in episode 7 as opposed to 8.
As far as I can tell we know we have an extended Pit Stop of at leat 36 hours after leg 6 (thanks to the beach scene, its the only way Eric & Danielle could be there with Charla & Mirna and Oswald & Danny).
It could even be a 48 hour Pit Stop (that has happened a couple times over the years).
Lets use Season 5's format, for example.
In which leg 5 is the first non elimination point, where Uchenna & Joyce are saved.
Leg 6. Teri & Ian are eliminated
Leg 7 (especially if it does get to Poland) could have Joe & Bill eliminated or run over on the tarmac.
Leg 8 Non elimination of some form, I have been assuming that the shot we see is from leg 8 (though it could be leg 7).
Leg 9-Another non elimination of some kind. And this still gives us the Guidos gone in Poland, and UJ in the Baku caves.
Leg 10 a team is eliminated (Uchenna & Joyce and it could be the occurance of the Baku Caves) or one of the other two points (Hong Kong and what is the other possability of a Pit Stop that we haven't for sure nailed down.
Leg 11 a none elimination of some kind. and the Pit Stop at either Hong Kong or that other possable Pit Stop loaction.
Leg 12. Guam with Oswald & Danny eliminated (NOOOOOO!!!!)
Leg 13 final leg with finale three and a stop in San Fran.
That is a copy of the season 5 elimination/Non elimination pattern.
Why wouldn't it work here?
Or I am I just not seeing 2 + 2=4.
mswood, you're right technically that nothing precludes it. However, do you want to be the producer who has 3 out of 4 consecutive legs non-elim. I don't think so!
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I used this site:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=262
If the sun really does set that early that makes it even more likely that C/M are ahead because that would mean they would have to be there the day before the other teams BEFORE 4 PM
MICHAEL D, where is this concern coming from? Although it has been second-guessed by longer dhow ride times by CHATEAU due to his shadow analyses, my estimate of when Charla/Mirna finished was around 11am on the same day as all other teams except Joe/Bill and Ian/Teri. If CHATEAU is right and it's a few hours later it's still in the early afternoon.
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I agree with the others; (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/00183-26-2007.jpg) that looks like a tuning lever (http://www.piano-tuning.com/Piano-Tuning-Lessons-List.aspx?CategoryID=1) she's holding.
As the owner of a grand piano that needs to be tuned every 6 months, I can say that this looks like a piano tuning exercise. They are probably being asked to match a specific tone, such as the standard 440 A below middle C, and tune it with the equipment shown to match it perfectly. There may even be an oscilloscope-type meter to show that they have done so or a digital readout or most likely a human with perfect pitch to tell them when it is just right.
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Ep 8 goes to Warsaw, and then perhaps is scheduled to go somewhere else, (perhaps they were going to Krakow, but don't) but since everything is delayed, the final pit stop is on "that grassy field" in Warsaw. The only thing that throws cold water on this scenario is the fact that "they were there all night and pestered by mosiquitos" Mosquitos in Warsaw in December?
Gman, Phil said this happened in Africa and ...
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To me it looks like snow is on the ground. I haven't gone through all of the messages I've missed in the last day or so, so sorry if already brought up. My f-n-l is Polish so I'll ask him about snow in December.
eta: OOPS I relooked at pictures. It isn't snow as there's grass showing in all of the other pictures. However, if it's not the way the picture is presented it could be early morning dew or fog. To me it just looks funny.
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:jumpy:
Frustration levels hit a high for one team when locals completely ignore then and refuse to help them,while another racer attempts to stop the plane by running out on the tarmac, on a special Two-Hour airing of The Amazing Race : All-Stars Sunday April 1, 8:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT.
"If I Were In Town, I Would Ask For Your Number" -- Teams head to Warsaw, Poland where a disagreement sparks an intense argument and name calling between teammates, on a special two-hour broadcast of THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS, Sunday, April 1 (8:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network
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Mirna must be mad about the wheels on Charla's shoes. It looks like Charla's supporting the feet, using her wheels and letting Mirna do all of the work by pulling her along. This could be what the voice over is about.
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Yeah - that pole looks about right!
Maybe they are running to the pit stop and are finally going to get first place and I'll be very happy!
PS: only one is a Rockette :P
Michael, I totally agree. I think they are running to pit stop and really excited because they are in 1st place. GOOOOOOOO BQs
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I wonder where that carrying task comes in - We already saw a roadblock and one of the detour options (knights, tuning the piano) so maybe there are two full episodes in poland?
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The floors sure look like the Palace on the lake ..but who knows what other places has the same floors :lol:?
Lord know how hard it is to get inside that place ..right guys?
:groan: Ha, tell me about it. I've screamed myself silly, yelling at my computer for that dude to take a picture of the fireplace at the other end of the room. :lol:
Not sure about the walls, but the floor sure looks similar. :-\
Will this do Boingo !!
:piano: :wtg: You get a "dancing banana" for that trick. No, better yet, let's have a drink. :jam: :beer2: :martini: :wine: :keeta:
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ok so we know C/M are doing these tasks on the same day as the dark pitstop because they are wearing the same clothes:
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so far the tasks we have seen are:
Knight - Roadblock
Piano tuning - Detour
Rowing - Detour
Manequin - Detour
So there seems to be three detour options, unless the rowing isn't a detour, and C/M just get frustrated with the piano tuning so they switch to the manequin thing?
I wonder if there is an intersection this leg
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ok so we know C/M are doing these tasks on the same day as the dark pitstop because they are wearing the same clothes:
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so far the tasks we have seen are:
Knight - Roadblock
Piano tuning - Detour
Rowing - Detour
Manequin - Detour
So there seems to be three detour options, unless the rowing isn't a detour, and C/M just get frustrated with the piano tuning so they switch to the manequin thing?
I wonder if there is an intersection this leg
I think that the rowboat exercise is the other ROADBLOCK since we only see one of the Chas doing it.
The piano tuning exercise could be at the sit of the Frederic Chopin Society in the Ostrogski Palace
In the background of the BQ's "jumping with joy" there is a statue of someone mounted on a horse. The only similar statue I could find is that of Josef Poniatowski located in front of and in the courtyard of the Radziwill Palace.
The shot of Phil waiting at the pit stop mat, certainly matches the shot of the Chas running up the path. Could even be in the Saxon Gardens.
The only building I can find with greek/roman columes at street level is the Wielki Opera Theatre, across from Saxon Gardens.
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so far the tasks we have seen are:
Knight - Roadblock
Piano tuning - Detour
Rowing - Detour
Manequin - Detour
So there seems to be three detour options, unless the rowing isn't a detour, and C/M just get frustrated with the piano tuning so they switch to the manequin thing?
I wonder if there is an intersection this leg
Maybe some of these tasks are ones every team must complete, thus not a Detour or Roadblock.
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Hi everybody :waves:. I've lurked since the middle of last season (I had never been spoiled before). You guys are amazing :tup:.
I'll jump in with both feet....C & M keep their lead into Poland, complete the knight road block & possibly the piano tuning detour (which could be at night) & arrive at "to be continued" pitstop in the dark (which explains "are you kidding me").
The other two teams seen at pitstop..... D&K & the Chas, arrive in early morning. A semi bunch occurs (since C&M are held up by hours of operation) for the next task (maybe the boat task) after TBC mat. B:)
.......or not. ???
(note - thanks to dvr & GSN i've seen all epys at least twice. I have always loved TAR & I really enjoy your website because it discusses travel, strategy, details etc. as opposed to "I hate so & so....etc." which seemed the norm on other sites. And since I'm a shameless shmoozer, I must say that Puddin - & the rest of you all rock. ;)
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:welcome2: Hi Hound.
If this is really a mountain as some have speculated then I think Mount Meru near Arusha becomes the prime candidate. I haven't found any matching buildings in the area; maybe someone with better resolution can read the building sign. (If it isn't a mountain and they're still on the island, maybe producers decided to skip Arusha altogether and proceed straight to Warsaw.)
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Welcome hound 109 :hearts: nice to meet you!
Gman thanks for the leads and will check them out later although I have checked out the Wielki Opera Theatre (http://www.teatrwielki.pl/index.php?nlang=en) but couldn't find a match.
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:waves: Nice to meet ya, Hound.
We have only one rule for newbies (noobs) here. :angel: (see below)
...he he he, only kidding...welcome
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I can't tell if these are the same minibus's they used for EP6 or not? maybe someone can check id they still have EP6 saved?
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I have episode six on my computer and they look pretty much the same to me puddin!
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In the background of the BQ's "jumping with joy" there is a statue of someone mounted on a horse. The only similar statue I could find is that of Josef Poniatowski located in front of and in the courtyard of the Radziwill Palace.
The shot of Phil waiting at the pit stop mat, certainly matches the shot of the Chas running up the path. Could even be in the Saxon Gardens.
The only building I can find with greek/roman columes at street level is the Wielki Opera Theatre, across from Saxon Gardens.
:o Now there's a coincidence. The statue is of Josef Poniatowski, and the greeter is a Josef Poniatowski "look-a-like". Go figure.
Here's a interactive 360 degree panoramic view from Saxon Gardens (showing the church that C/M are catching a cab by. If the pitstop is in the gardens, then the cab ride will be a short one. ;D
QuickTime Player version (http://www.warszawa-panoramy.art.pl/panoramy360/plac_pilsudskiego_Q.htm)
Java version (http://www.warszawa-panoramy.art.pl/panoramy360/plac_pilsudskiego.htm)
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well as crappy as they maybe ..
they do look different..unless Eric & Dees bus was different?
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Sure look like the same vans, and there is that watch on Erics wrist, that's why they call it a wristwatch, by the way; can anyone make out the time. My best guess is around 4:15.
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Here's a interactive 360 degree panoramic view from Saxon Gardens (showing the church that C/M are catching a cab by. If the pitstop is in the gardens, then the cab ride will be a short one
Thanks as always for the "spins" Boingo :lol:
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In the background of the BQ's "jumping with joy" there is a statue of someone mounted on a horse. The only similar statue I could find is that of Josef Poniatowski located in front of and in the courtyard of the Radziwill Palace.
The shot of Phil waiting at the pit stop mat, certainly matches the shot of the Chas running up the path. Could even be in the Saxon Gardens.
The only building I can find with greek/roman columes at street level is the Wielki Opera Theatre, across from Saxon Gardens.
:o Now there's a coincidence. The statue is of Josef Poniatowski, and the greeter is a Josef Poniatowski "look-a-like". Go figure.
Here's a interactive 360 degree panoramic view from Saxon Gardens (showing the church that C/M are catching a cab by. If the pitstop is in the gardens, then the cab ride will be a short one. ;D
QuickTime Player version (http://www.warszawa-panoramy.art.pl/panoramy360/plac_pilsudskiego_Q.htm)
Java version (http://www.warszawa-panoramy.art.pl/panoramy360/plac_pilsudskiego.htm)
We established earlier that C/M were hailing cab near the Augsburg Protestant Community Church, next to the Zacheta Fine Arts Gallery (that's the building this side of the church. These buildings lie just south of the Saxon Gardens. So the Saxon Gardens may be out just now. Actually there are many "garden" locations in Warsaw; almost every palace has a garden area attached.
By the way: if anyone is travelling to Warsaw, the white building just to the right of the large open paved area is the Sofitel Intercontental Hotel and I can recommend it highly. When I was first there in 1978 with President Carter it was known as the Victoria and it was the most modern hotel in Poland. Stilll a very good hotel in 2002, and very convenient to most places you want to go, and it is in walking distance of Old Town.
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:waves: Nice to meet ya, Hound.
We have only one rule for newbies (noobs) here. :angel: (see below)
...he he he, only kidding...welcome
Thanks for the welcome, guys. Boingo....i'll keep the newbie rule in mind. :o
(kinda looks like that poor insect who got nailed in the RAID commercial ;D)
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is it possible that the roadblock comes the night before the detour?
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GET YOUR RED-HOT AIRLINE FLIGHT INFO HERE:
Part 1 Zanzibar to Arusha (yes, there is one daily nonstop flight, to my delight and surprise)
B4 201 departs Zanzibar 1000 arrives ARK 1130
This could be the route for the top 4 teams to get there on Monday Dec. 4. Eric/Danielle will probably not make it unless they had a swift dhow crossing.
for E/D and Joe/Bill their option will be only slightly better than waiting for the above flight on Dec. 5 -
PW451 departs Zanzibar 2120 arrives DAR 2150, B4 211 departs DAR 0910 Dec. 5 arrives ARK 1120
Part 2 Zanzibar to Nairobi (which with a land connection will be superior for E/D and J/B)
PW451 departs ZNZ 2120 arrives DAR 2150, LX293 departs DAR 2020 arrives NBO 2335, then a 3 hour car trip to Arusha
Part 3 Nairobi to Warsaw (note: there are no flights from Arusha to Nairobi, so one of the above connections or land options or air charters will be needed to get teams to Nairobi)
On Tuesdays or Wednesdays, KQ116 departs NBO 1125 arrives AMS 1850, then either LOT 0268 departs AMS 1945 arrives WAW 2140 or KL1369 departs AMS 1950 arrives 2150.
Every day, KL566 departs NBO 2245 arrives AMS 0530, KL 1363 departs AMS 0925 arrives WAW 1125.
OK, so if there is no episode 7 pitstop in the Mt. Kilimanjaro or Nairobi areas note that the evening flight from Zanzibar through Dar-es-Salaam arrives too late into Nairobi to make the connection for the evening flight to Amsterdam, arriving late morning into Warsaw. If teams were allowed to, taking the morning flight to Arusha and the 3 hour car ride to Nairobi, they could be at Jomo-Kenyatta airport in Nairobi by about 3pm and easily catch that evening flight. Otherwise they will be waiting for the next morning flight and arrive late evening into Warsaw.
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wowzas talk about dead board tonight :(
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I am lost--where did this set of pics of the vans in Africa come from please?
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We're lost too ??? best guesses are either the Arusha area or back on the island (Zanzibar). The sign on the opposite building or these signs might help, but I can't read them.
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We're lost too ??? best guesses are either the Arusha area or back on the island (Zanzibar). The sign on the opposite building or these signs might help, but I can't read them.
I'm guessing they are just on their way to the airport or something because here is a shot of E/D at the airport from the web preview (the guidos can also be seen in other shots)
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Searching Arusha it might as well be Stonetown as it all looks the same, lol.
This is the only evidence of, Stonetown fo' sure looks like the Fort to me.
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OK back to Stonetown/ Kikungwi for me :waves: .........I'm so sick of looking for the Knight/Roadblock place :groan:
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omg puddin - i know! that knight road block had me so frustrated! I just gave up.
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omg puddin - i know! that knight road block had me so frustrated! I just gave up.
I know! It doesn't match any place that shows up :lol: It's that DARN clock!!
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LOL i searched for so many combos involving yellow/white buildings with clocks and gates and all that jazz!
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Searching Arusha it might as well be Stonetown as it all looks the same, lol.
This is the only evidence of, Stonetown fo' sure looks like the Fort to me.
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This looks like they are leaving the Old Fort Pit Stop area (note battlement in right background. If C and J arrived shortly after sundown, then this would match being shortly before sunrise.
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We're lost too ??? best guesses are either the Arusha area or back on the island (Zanzibar). The sign on the opposite building or these signs might help, but I can't read them.
No :lol: I mean what promo/preview? I can only find the first one in Poland with poor Charla being flattened by the horse--clearly there is another one but I can't find it--Help please! :lol:
And I just left that site puddin--I want to go "Into Africa" some more--I'm not ready to leave yet....
But since we have zero evidence of any tasks in Africa it is hard to make a case for a whole leg there--unless there is more on y'alls "secret" promo---I may just have to stay lost... :lol:
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Sorry, I didn't understand :-[. It's the tv preview at the end of the episode.
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Thank you--I'm the dummy for missing that part--off to rewatch--
and love the new avatar! :luvya:
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There are many forest locations near Warsaw.
One good bet might be Czersk, a former capial of the Mazovian Region unil 1413 when Warsaw became the capital. The village includes the ruins of a medieval castle dating from the 14th and 16th centuries.
Other castles and palaces are located in Jablobba, Nieborow, and Opinogora.
Jablonna - The palace is set in a park and had an unusual tower with a sperical roof. Special events are held in the park and palace.
Nieborow - Designed in the Baroque style and is set in a symmetrical garden.
Opinogora - A small neo-gothic palace set in and landscaped park. The park contains a church built in 1885 in the neo-classical style
All are within 50 to 60 miles from Warsaw.
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Just saw one of the videos showing the teams relaxing on the beach in Zanzibar and dining together at the hotel/club. If this is true then for planning purposes the pit stop must last either 36 or 48 hours. Since all six teams are shown togethr including Charla and Mirna who had at least a 14 to 15 hour lead over Bill and Joe if the stop was only 12 hours, then they would have been gone before Bill and Joe arrived.
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Slowhatch..? close or no? this is Zanzibar near the Fort.
supersized click click (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/th_tan045-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/tan045-1.jpg)
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What do you all think of these 2 buildings maybe being the same?
The view with the van isn't the same angle as the one in black and white next to the fort--but I think it could be around the corner--and they wouldn't be far from the fort??
But maybe the overhangs aren't deep enough--but at least the architecture is similar...
I really think that all the van pics are still in Zanzibar--and the mountain maybe? Sorry--I think it is a cloud.
I've been in Arusha--and I don't remember it looking like the van pics...
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haha we are on the same track peach ..
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Boingo! How did you find my picture??! That was my favorite bathing suit too! :lol: :hearts: :lol:
And you boys are looking mighty fine too! Except--four boys--picture of three--hmmm--who's who?? :lol: :lol:
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Thats actually funny Boingo because me and the girls had our picture taken in MGM? I think in that exact photo :lol:
eta: Chateau was holding the camara of course ( damn ) and now you know why Boingo got his nic-name :o
pssssttttttttt Gman is the one in the cheetah thong ..grrrrrrrrrr, what an animal
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How come we can't positively place the mat at the Palace on the Water? It really should be there considering the confessionals inside the palace.
When I look at the place it is 98 % trees! :groan:
I can't find the place in the previews. :(
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It sure look like water :'( ..we need better pictures.
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I spent the night looking at some 104 pix of castles in Poland. Nothing seems to come anywheres near what we see in the Knights-to-be sequence. So it may not be a castle or palace at all; maybe a monestary, or just some old non-descript building in a forsest. Also could be in the Krakow area.
OR, and we haven't thought of this yet; it might be somewhere on the way to Poland such as the Czech Republic.
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I think this is a match!
Building the Cha's run by and this one:
Park łazienkowski, widoczny pawilon zachodni i zwieńczenie pałacu Na Wodzie, Warszawa
Definitely in the park--looking for the place.....
Polish translations:
widoczny=Results: WIDOCZNY
EYESHOT: WITHIN EYESHOT, VISIBLE, PROMINENT, OUTWARD, PRONOUNCED, APPARENT, EVIDENT, NOTICEABLE
zachodni=westerly, western, occidental
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:jumpy: Nice work! :hearts: I'll find that interactive map you provided. It should be in there somewhere.
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Thanks for any help but I've looked all through that but it doesn't show this view by name--unless this is attached here to the star kordegarda??
Guess it isn't called "widoczny Pavilion" :lol: the English ID just says Lazienki Park
Interactive Map (http://www.lazienki-krolewskie.pl/eng/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5&Itemid=68)
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Needs to be nearby this place too....
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Thats actually funny Boingo because me and the girls had our picture taken in MGM? I think in that exact photo :lol:
eta: Chateau was holding the camara of course ( damn ) and now you know why Boingo got his nic-name :o
pssssttttttttt Gman is the one in the cheetah thong ..grrrrrrrrrr, what an animal
Darn, you gave me away, Puddin, now I'll have to disconnect my phone and close down my email sites!!!
Good find on the Palace on the Water; none of my pix were from that angle. From my map of Lazienki Park, it looks like that the pit stop mat is on a wider open path and grassy area that is just off the path from the Palace on the Water towards the building known as The White House. Before you get to the White House there is another unnamed building with a few trees just to its left. This seems to match exactly the shot of Phil and the Greeter which allows a glimpse of the water behind it and another building across the lake.
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HI G-Man! If you have a good map of the park can you give us the link and I'll add it to our MAPS! site?? Thank you! (and I want to know more about the "when I was there with President Carter" comment please!) :luvya:
pics came from puddin's very nice link (http://www.lookgaleria.pl/?s=kolekcje&k=00059#top)
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Maybe we are closer than we think??
See if you think the arrow and the red circle match??
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The map is in my DK Warsaw guide I'll see if I can scan it and send to Puddin.
I was in charge of USIA'S film/videotape coverage of President Carter's trip over New Years (1978/79) to Warsaw, Tehran, New Delhi, Riyadh, Bahrain, Paris and Brussels. That was back in the days when our Presidents like to travel the world, and the press and TV covered their every move.
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With any luck we will be getting Phil's preview tonight!
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Thanks G-man! I could REALLY use that map! ;D
What an interesting life you lead! Antarctica, Presidents, castles (although I'm still not sure that is real ??? :lol:)
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Look back to the page before--but??
ETA: Nope, turns out to be on the left-hand side!
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Nice work peach!! :jumpy: :happy:
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ADDITIONAL FLIGHT INFO
Due to the statement that "it took one hour" to get from Zanzibar by boat (obviously the hydrofoil) back to Dar-es-Salaam, some additional flight info is appropriate. Here it is:
Flights DAR to NBO
KQ 487 0525 to 0640 Monday only(the day C/M and O/D could possibly use it)
PW4481 0915 to 1030
KL4145 1010 to 1125 Monday only(the day D/K and U/J) could possibly use it)
PW4483 1515 to 1630
PW4495 1630 to 1850
PW0725 1800 to 2030 Monday only
LX0293 2220 to 2335 Monday/Wed./Fri.
A Nonstop Flight from DAR to AMSTERDAM KL569 departs DAR 2350 arrives AMS 0715 (note: this might help E/D and J/B get back even with D/K and U/J)
connecting with KL1363 departing AMS 0925 arriving WAW 1125.
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Thanks puddin!
Here is my best guess till we get G-man's map...
I wonder if the pavilion is the red arrow, with the Cha's running in the direction of the yellow line, to Phil who would be the gold star??
I know we thought there was water over Phil's right shoulder before--but after looking at it on the really big screen--I think the "water" is a reflection, and I think he is standing next to a blurred out building--which should be the Kordegarda...
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Almost done!! :lol: :groan:
First pic shows the attached palace (I think) in front of Phil's head
Second:
1)=kordegarda building? (wonder if that is where Phil spent the night on a cold floor in an old building?)
2)=statue or someone (cameraman?) standing on a wall
3)= just a reflection....
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:groan: Who gave peach crayons!?
j/k ..keep it coming peach :happy:
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:groan: Who gave peach crayons!?
j/k ..keep it coming peach :happy:
Heee...Slowhatch taught me!
But no fears--I'm done! :angel:
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to add to your collection..is it the same or no?
if they are repeats sorry in advance
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Thanks for any help but I've looked all through that but it doesn't show this view by name--unless this is attached here to the star kordegarda??
Guess it isn't called "widoczny Pavilion" :lol: the English ID just says Lazienki Park
Interactive Map (http://www.lazienki-krolewskie.pl/eng/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5&Itemid=68)
On this web site (http://www.warsaw-life.com/culture/culture_details/224-Lazienki_Palace) there is an email the Lazienki Palace link if anyone wants to ask the Palace about TAR racers.
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Great work Peach! :happy:
All I could find was trees! I will about a time for the Cha shot when I get home.
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I couldn't wait. I just have to use Google Maps instead of GE:
This shot was taken here between 2:15 and 2:45 pm (assumes December 3,4,5 ?)
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Ans we are glad you couldn't wait :elvis: :yourock:
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And sunset was at 3:26 pm.
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Your crayons are prettier than mine!
Thanks for figuring this out--can you do a "moon" shot for Ch/Mirna? Uh....maybe I'd better rephrase that.... :lol:
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Sure! But there has to be a moon shadow! :lol:
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Thanks puddin!
Here is my best guess till we get G-man's map...
I wonder if the pavilion is the red arrow, with the Cha's running in the direction of the yellow line, to Phil who would be the gold star??
I know we thought there was water over Phil's right shoulder before--but after looking at it on the really big screen--I think the "water" is a reflection, and I think he is standing next to a blurred out building--which should be the Kordegarda...
Peach, you got that exactly right! I sent a map to Puddin, but this one is just as good, mine had lots of more detail, but this shows the spot exactly as I estimated. North by the way is toward the top of frame.
Now to find where that dog-gone Knights in waiting takes place.
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Look back to the page before--but??
Its the pavilion on the other side, the one to the left of the picture.
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Thanks G-man! You are right!
Hopefully puddin will be able to share your map...
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me again :angel: ..we really should find the airport in the pics below
We were in Europe this last time, and the teams got so spread out, and that's part of what made the whole series tough this time is that the separation was huge.
And there was a spread of seventeen hours from the first team to the last team [one time]. ( We know this is Bill/Joe)
At one point we didn't get to a hotel for almost four days. When we did get to a hotel, we were checked in for two hours. I took a shower, slept for an hour, got woken up and didn't even have time to unpack my bags, and we were gone again.
For instance, in that European leg, the first team had a five hour head start on us leaving!
They get on a flight ahead of you to the next place, and then you get on the ground and I'm meant to go explain the Detail, Roadblock, Yield or Fast Forward before I get to the Pit Stop.
Well, if they've got a five hour lead, they're already through all those challenges, sometimes, and I've got to go straight to the pit stop. Then we've got to work out how I can back track, to go back to these places. Now if it's a two or three hour drive or a plane ride, it becomes a nightmare. It's not a picnic. And I love it, by the way! I carry my own bags and all the rest of it.
So the first team had left, and I was still waiting five hours in the middle of the night, in this cold location.
The only place to be was on the floor of an old building. This one journalist was like, "Wow, you're on the ground trying to sleep?" And I go, "Yeah, it's not like I can go back and lie down in a hotel." Five hours is a long time.
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bump..
This picture was taken between 10:53 and 11:10 am (assumes December 3,4,5 ?).
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wtf these time stamps don't make sense! I'd suggest maybe mirna and charla are at another pitstop when phil says he would not kid, but you can see the same greater! I guess the chas are just ahead, because even if C/M were there before the other teams, I doubt it would take them until nightfall for them to check into the pitstop if they are doing tasks at 10 AM....that would also put them 24 hours in front of the Chas.
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Your crayons are prettier than mine!
Thanks for figuring this out--can you do a "moon" shot for Ch/Mirna? Uh....maybe I'd better rephrase that.... :lol:
:ass:
sorry....i'm just having a blast with all the smileys on this board. :happy:
(btw - "moonshadow" by cat stevens ---- pulling the 8 track out of an old shoe box.) :ya3: :geekon:
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wtf these time stamps don't make sense! I'd suggest maybe mirna and charla are at another pitstop when phil says he would not kid, but you can see the same greater! I guess the chas are just ahead
Maybe there is a Fast Foward and this is it? :hides
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strange..
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Take a Bath
I never figured out what this was about. The bar at the hotel I stayed at put this bath tub and mannaquin out every day on the sidewalk to attract customers I guess, and every night would bring him back in. Not sure what they were trying to appeal to, but judging by the business they were getting it didn't work.
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Did I just get mooned by a newbie? :o
Don't worry--I figured that one was coming! :lol: Now I have a Cat Stevens earworm too!
Timewise--remember it gets dark early there--so Ch/Mirna may really not be far "behind" (couldn't resist! :lol:) the Cha's!
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Oh I know, I'm just trying to point out that based on the lighting I think it's safe to say that the Chas and possibly the BQs are ahead of C/M...now if only the BQs are ahead of the chas!
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wtf these time stamps don't make sense! I'd suggest maybe mirna and charla are at another pitstop when phil says he would not kid, but you can see the same greater! I guess the chas are just ahead, because even if C/M were there before the other teams, I doubt it would take them until nightfall for them to check into the pitstop if they are doing tasks at 10 AM....that would also put them 24 hours in front of the Chas.
For starters as we piece this puzzle together, it looks like the teams had a long 24 or 36 hour pit stop in Zanzibar! We have a video of the teams frolliking on the beach and stuffing themselves at the sports bar. But on second look, I did not spot Bill and Joe. Could this be the next morning say just before noon, but Bill and Joe are sleeping in since they didn't get there until 7:30AM or so in the morning.
Remember we are talking about two episodes here. So this may be only one of the times the teams meet up with Phil. Knowing TPTB just to throw people like us off, they may be mixing scenes from the two eps, so, yes the times may seem confusing and mixed up. If it is a TBC, Phil will be at the first stop but not a greeter.
From the looks the scene of Phil and the Greeter on the path by the Palace on the Water in Warsaw may be the final pit stop.
Or just to confuse things more, Phil and the Greeter and Pit Stop Mat could be at the end of Ep7 and the end of Ep 8 is TBC or NEL.
How's that for confusing things this Wednesday afternoon.
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Or just to confuse things more, Phil and the Greeter and Pit Stop Mat could be at the end of Ep7 and the end of Ep 8 is TBC or NEL.
Yeah - that is a possibilty! I would just be very, VERY glad if C/M don't come in first and that's all I'm asking for, it can be any other team but them! I don't completely hate them, but I just don't like it when one team dominates an entire season...especially a team I'm not fond of...I mean, they're hilarious and all..but oh well.
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Maybe there is a Fast Foward and this is it? :hides
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:-\ Or maybe the racers have to row across the lake to get to the "Palace on the Water", instead of taking the bridge across. (Sure looks like the palace behind the cha.) Then just a short run to meet and greet Phil on the mat.
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Hopefully the boats have the big duck on the front!
(http://www.esa.int/home-ind/Image/urlpicturelarge_id_1084173604184_Lake400.jpg) :jam:
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That too Boingo, lol.
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OK so maybe I was reading it wrong :-[
Sounds like Phil is saying that at the Warsaw pitstop he was still waiting 5 hours for the last team to arrive while the lead teams were already headed to Malaysia, 5 hours ahead of him.
"The first teams were leaving and I was still waiting another five hours for the last team to come in"
"For instance, in that European leg, the first team had a five hour head start on us leaving!"
We were in Europe this last time, and the teams got so spread out, and that's part of what made the whole series tough this time is that the separation was huge.
And there was a spread of seventeen hours from the first team to the last team [one time]. ( We know this is Bill/Joe)
At one point we didn't get to a hotel for almost four days. When we did get to a hotel, we were checked in for two hours. I took a shower, slept for an hour, got woken up and didn't even have time to unpack my bags, and we were gone again.
For instance, in that European leg, the first team had a five hour head start on us leaving!
They get on a flight ahead of you to the next place, and then you get on the ground and I'm meant to go explain the Detail, Roadblock, Yield or Fast Forward before I get to the Pit Stop.
Well, if they've got a five hour lead, they're already through all those challenges, sometimes, and I've got to go straight to the pit stop. Then we've got to work out how I can back track, to go back to these places. Now if it's a two or three hour drive or a plane ride, it becomes a nightmare. It's not a picnic. And I love it, by the way! I carry my own bags and all the rest of it.
So the first team had left, and I was still waiting five hours in the middle of the night, in this cold location.
The only place to be was on the floor of an old building. This one journalist was like, "Wow, you're on the ground trying to sleep?" And I go, "Yeah, it's not like I can go back and lie down in a hotel." Five hours is a long time.
Phils TVGuide interview (http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=800009677)
"On one part of the race, the teams were so spread out that there was a 17 hour difference between first and last.
The first teams were leaving and I was still waiting another five hours for the last team to come in.
We always hope that if we have a long spread we're at a nice pit stop.
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The beach and hotel in Zanzibar looks pretty good; perhaps even better than the pitstop would have been in Arusha
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Too bad the twinkies didn't make all stars....they would have SWAM across.
And as far as the timeline....being a double episode with short daylight hours suggest multiple possibilities.
I believed C/M did two tasks at night, then the TBC mat, then off to do two more tasks the next day (after a nights sleep due to hours of operation). Others believe that C/M are checking in the PITSTOP at night after (apparently) Cha (& possibly others).
I do like that boat ride idea...I just wish it was a PADDLE duck though.
& peach.... :flowers:
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:o Interesting....looks like the chas arrive at the palace by boat on the NORTH side. :-\ Could they be coming from the area near the King Sobieski statue on the bridge north of the palace ???
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Chateau - is there any way you can get a time stamp on any of the BQs pictures?
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I think the Stara Kordegarda is used as an art gallery (http://www.warsawvoice.pl/archiwum.phtml/10486/) (last line) so maybe they would have let Phil spend the night inside...
I'm reading the time thing as at one point there was a 17 hour difference (Zanzibar)
But by Warsaw there was only five hours between the first team leaving for Malaysia and Phil being able to leave (way to narrow down the gap!)
& hound--awwww, thanks! :flirt: You're forgiven!
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Everyone wants Chateau's attention :waves:
if we pretend this is Marszałkowska St. could you estimate a time? :luvu:
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So puddin - still think C/M are first? ???
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me again ..we really should find the airport in the pics below
And apskip's nice flight data got lost in the Mat excitement...
ADDITIONAL FLIGHT INFO
Due to the statement that "it took one hour" to get from Zanzibar by boat (obviously the hydrofoil) back to Dar-es-Salaam, some additional flight info is appropriate. Here it is:
Flights DAR to NBO
KQ 487 0525 to 0640 Monday only(the day C/M and O/D could possibly use it)
PW4481 0915 to 1030
KL4145 1010 to 1125 Monday only(the day D/K and U/J) could possibly use it)
PW4483 1515 to 1630
PW4495 1630 to 1850
PW0725 1800 to 2030 Monday only
LX0293 2220 to 2335 Monday/Wed./Fri.
A Nonstop Flight from DAR to AMSTERDAM KL569 departs DAR 2350 arrives AMS 0715 (note: this might help E/D and J/B get back even with D/K and U/J)
connecting with KL1363 departing AMS 0925 arriving WAW 1125.
So which airport matches the pictures?
Options:
Zanzibar (highly doubtful because it is just as easy to take the hydrofoil/catamaran! to Dar es Salaam) --but you know me--I've got pics if we need them!
Dar es Salaam :This gets tricky--remember the Hajj is still on and it will be very difficult to arrange flights for the teams Dar to Nairobi (which is the best option for flights to Warsaw per apskip).
So here is my take on that--we know the teams were meant to be somewhere else for the real Pitstop--possibly Arusha. I think we have no chance of ever seeing whatever tasks were to be done there originally, but I wonder if TPTB had arranged for ongoing transport from there to Nairobi (Car, truck, charter flight, camel--whatever) and since flights out of Dar to Nairobi will be a nightmare--maybe they will still send them to Arusha (?) to take the original transportation on to Nairobi.
So that leaves Dar and Arusha as airport possibilities and I have many non-matching photos (let me know if you want to be PEACHHH'd!)
But Nairobi? It is a match! And fits with the critical need for the Guido's to get on a decent flight.
And just for completeness--I'm in and out of Schipol (Amsterdam) all the time and that doesn't look like a match to me...
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Do we still think the clock is working? Can't be right?
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haha - it looks like it's in the same position to me
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Me too and 3:40 makes no sense.
This could be Oswald/Danny working on the piano task..I don't think Danny would be wearing his heavy hat in Africa,lol.
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Where do you see Danny working on the piano task?!
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As for if the Pit Stop could actually be leg #7.
If it is then, leg 7 must be a transition leg (similar to leg 5).
It could be either a non elimination, TBC, or even an elimination leg.
But for it to e an elimination leg means we are going ot be stuck with teh same teams for three episodes (that has only happened once in season 5).
Hopefully we get some good material on Phil's preview that can clear up anotehr full leg in Africa (as apskip believes) or a partial leg like I believe. If so then we can start arguing which is the elimination or non elimination out of the two legs.
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Damn - it looks like I'm going to have to wait until Basket ball ends this sunday to watch TAR also, since it wont begin on CTV until 9PM now due to the Juno awards! (:;)I guess I'll be just as delayed as all of you!
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Where do you see Danny working on the piano task?!
Because I'm bored and I like to make **** up ;)
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LOL, don't worry puddin, I'm like that too!
:wohoo:Go BQs! (I can't believe I'm saying this, but I like them MORE then I liked ROMBER during TAR7!)
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This could be Oswald/Danny working on the piano task.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/00123-26-2007.jpg) Piano tuning=tension: maybe some humor on their part? ;D
On a different topic, do we know who this is? Someone in a green jacket walks behind.
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Damn - it looks like I'm going to have to wait until Basket ball ends this sunday to watch TAR also, since it wont begin on CTV until 9PM now due to the Juno awards! (:;)I guess I'll be just as delayed as all of you!
Michael, you are clearly not a Final 4 fan. The semifinals are are Saturday and the final game is on Monday. There will be no interference from NCAA men's basketball with TAR this Sunday night.
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yes!! that means I can watch it on CBS at 8! :D
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I can't do the BQs because I don't know where that shot was taken. For that street, maybe later...
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TPTB are real meanies; its hard enough to dope out one ep at a time, but two at once without knowing where one ends and the other begins just makes things rough all around.
The main thing we don't know and I guess we won't know until Sunday at 10PM (or later if the Masters runs over) is where ep 7 ends and whether is is a complete leg with an elimination, or a TBC leading into ep 8, or a NEL. Do we have two pit stops at the mat, or only one?
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TPTB are real meanies; its hard enough to dope out one ep at a time, but two at once without knowing where one ends and the other begins just makes things rough all around.
The main thing we don't know and I guess we won't know until Sunday at 10PM (or later if the Masters runs over) is where ep 7 ends and whether is is a complete leg with an elimination, or a TBC leading into ep 8, or a NEL. Do we have two pit stops at the mat, or only one?
masters is next week g-man
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I want Phil's preview!! :'(
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You are so right, just jumping the gun on the Masters, so hopefully no delays. I'm spending too much time searching for that dag gone Knights in shining armor shindig location.
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I want Phil's preview!! :'(
Is that today? I'm ready too!
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I know it's come out on a wednesday before, because it came out while I was watching ANTM!
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It just dawned on me - Sunday is April 1. And we all know what that means. Are TPTB pulling a fast one on us?
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I think the knight is Bill.
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I was looking for museums, libraries, etc for that white building in the "knight" screencap, but alas, i have found nothing! SOMEBODY HELP! :groan:
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I think the knight is Bill.
omg YOUR RIGHT :jumpy:!!! Good catch Slowhatch and shark :happy:
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LOL - yup, there's joe in the background (I think) good job!
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Also I'm working on the video..its just not up yet. Officialy Survivor's isn't either but I found the code soooooo maybe soon :happy:
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They are Rockettes and probably twirling? :elvis:
Since Boingo identified the greeter as Józef Antoni Poniatowski/ look alike :lol: the Pałac Prezydencki or Presidential Palace/ The Polish White House/Radziwill Palace , which I think is the background where the BQ's are twirling? might be the best place to find the pitstop?
heres the eguide tour (http://um.warszawa.pl/v_syrenka/perelki/panoramy/palac_prezydencki_en.php)
see.. (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/00683-26-2007.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/index.jpg)
I found where the BQ's are but see no shadows so?
anyway it looks like they are going through one of these gates and it looks like they are holding the detour clue so maybe this is where the piano takes place?
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Puddin, I don't think that is the place because the horse's tail does not line up with the end of the building.
And the Cracovie statue is on a higher pedestal.
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hopefully Phil's preview will give us more insight!
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OK I'll look for more :knight
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Are there any black gates around the Palace on the Water?
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:lol: Isn't that the Pesidential Palace? Not likely the girls would be allowed near/inside any gates over there. :angel:
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:lol: Isn't that the Pesidential Palace? Not likely the girls would be allowed near/inside any gates over there. :angel:
FINE then you find the frigging horse :lol:
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This episode is proving to be almost as annoying as the last one.... :wohoo: ... more fun!
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:lol: Isn't that the Pesidential Palace? Not likely the girls would be allowed near/inside any gates over there. :angel:
FINE then you find the frigging horse :lol:
OK, then I will. So there. :neener: Oh wait, I just did. ;D
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:knuckles: About time you did something around here :snicker:
sooooooooo give it up!!
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Yep, that's on the right track. The statue had to have trees around it.
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I wonder if there is an intersection in this episode
it has to either be this sunday, or at F4 if they had one this season!
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:knuckles: About time you did something around here :snicker:
sooooooooo give it up!!
:luvya:
:-[ umm...that's the problem...I don't know the details...the caption on the pix only said "ul. Traugutta", somewhere in Warsaw. Hey, I bust my ass over here, and I don't get any respect. (:;) The balls in your court now, princess. ;)
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I think its a street name?
Pl@net Internet Cafe (0 reviews) +48 (94) 340-56-12
Cafe / Coffee Shop
ul. Traugutta 30 (Zwycięstwa)
10.00-3.00
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ooh, another internet cafe!
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Art Academy of Warsaw. I'm looking for another viewpoint (source (http://www.flickr.mud.yahoo.com/photos/77457694@N00/263229409/))
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Traugutta Park.........
Nevermind Slowhatch found it :elvis:
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eguide (http://um.warszawa.pl/v_syrenka/perelki/index_en.php?mi_id=111&dz_id=12)
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That's less than a block away from where Mirna was hailing a cab.
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That's less than a block away from where Mirna was hailing a cab.
:lol: ....just because I can....
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Don't just sit there Boingo! Find that piano room :umn:
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Don't just sit there Boingo! Find that piano room :umn:
Hey...don't make me get the stick... :lol:
For your entertainment pleasure...
Palac Czapskich (Czapski Palace)
Opposite the University stands the Czapski Palace (formerly the Krasiński Palace ) to which Chopin moved at the age of 17 and resided up until the day he left for Paris for good. In 2004, the palace was painted back to its original color from the monotone beige and is used for the the Academy of Fine Arts at present.
This baby might be tougher to get inside than the Palace on the Water....but we have our Chopin connection. Safe to say this is where they tune the piano. :snicker:
ETA: Academy of Fine Arts in Warsaw web site (http://www.asp.waw.pl/asp/open/open.php)
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Whoa, I go away to crank out a time and every body finds the next spot.
Nice work y'all !
Well here's the old stuff:
Thanks to Puddin's suggestion of streets to look at :tup:
This shot was taken here between 1:05 and 1:27 pm (assumes December 3,4,5?)
The shaded stretch of sidewalk corresponds to the part between the two arrows.
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So I guess the BQs tune the piano too!
There, that's my contribution to this. :lol:
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Nice work guys. Here the time for that location:
This shot was taken here before 10:42 am.
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So I guess the BQs tune the piano too!
There, that's my contribution to this. :lol:
And something tells me that Beauty Queens might have an edge at tuning a Piano :crown. Thanks for the times on the streets Chateau :kissy: Maybe Charla/Mirna did switch Detours as someone posted above?
Still doesn't explain C/M's are you kidding to Phil comment at the Pitstop unless they thought they were last?
But the Guidos at Knight/Roadblock along with C/M at Knight/Roadblock sure makes more sense now. C/M are not first afterall? Most likely the BQ's or the Cha's?
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If they switch then I call the Detour:
Shoppin or Chopin
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:lol: Kinda nice having the forum to ourselves late at night. Lot of progress made in a short time. :tup:
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Nice work everybody! :happy:
In the house on the left, there is a parlour, previously inhabited by Chopin\'s family, with a piano, furniture from the epoch of Chopin and photographs
I found this link to the rooms inside (http://www.chopin.pl/zabytki/muzeum/salonik_en.html), but the pictures of Chopin's Drawing Room don't match the Ch/Mirna picture. Heee...maybe they have remodelled? Or maybe that is some kind of practice room?
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If they switch then I call the Detour:
Shoppin or Chopin
:happy: Love it!! :lol: Kinda nice having the forum to ourselves late at night. Lot of progress made in a short time. :tup:
Rust never sleeps :lol:
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This shot was taken here before 10:42 am.
Chateau you are amazing at how you can figure all this out! Who am I kidding, you all are amazing with what you guys can uncover. :tup:
Chateau, regarding that shot of the BQ's, does this mean, that the location where the BQ's are is not the same location as the pit stop? I've been assuming that is what but from what you have posted it looks like an entirely different area.
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No, we think the pit stop is on a path by the Palace on the Water in Lazienki Park. The shot of the BQ's is in the front of the Czapski Palace which is quite a bit to the noth of Lazienki Park. We see them jumping with joy. Did they solve the tuning of the Piano or are they on the way to the Ostrogski Palace site of the Frederic Chopin Museum which holds the actual piano that Chopin used during the last two years of his life.
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yes!! hopefully they are FINISHED the detour and are on their way to the pit stop!
:) D/K rock!
Still no Phil preview?!
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Oh I'm jumping on the bandwagon that the BQ's come in first Michael :angel:
1st BQ's
2nd Chas
3rd Chmirna?
4th EDEE? U/J?
5th U/J? EDEE?
6th Guidos
and colby we are SO lucky to have the best of the best detectives here :jumpy:! they are all " Gems " :jam:
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Yeah I have to admit - this board and sucks are entirley different, here it's actually more about finding things and nitpicking everything and it's a lot of fun, and at sucks its just fun to make fun of everything!
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Welcome to the bandwagon puddin, I hope you ride it until the finale :P
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I've been concentrating on this videocap (http://www.izadsyah.com/images/charlaouch.gif) that Izad had in his website (photo courtesy of ADC from Sucks). I think it's the Pieskowa Skala, north of Krakow. The clock and the window below it looks very similar.
And from here (http://www.city-discovery.com/krakow/tour.php?id=1302):
Description : 40 minutes drive through a charming Prądnik River Valley, forming Ojców National Park among limestone hills and rocks of incredible shapes (e.g. Hercules Club) and caves.
According to a legend, one of them was a shelter of Polish King Władysław the Short , a refugee at that time.
Visit at Renaissance Castle in Pieskowa Skała, the most beautiful knights' castle in Poland. Founded in the 14th century, rebuilt in Renaissance style with beautiful Renaissance loggia and arcades in the courtyard.
Drive back to Kraków along the Eagles' Nests Track - a group of the 14th century strongholds (now in ruins) founded by Kazimierz the Great to protect the Silesian commercial route: Ojców, Rabsztyn, Olsztyn and the most beautiful one in Ogrodzieniec
The castle is part of the Ojcowski National Park (http://www.staff.amu.edu.pl/~zbzw/ph/pnp/ojco.htm).
Am I wrong or am I wrong?
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omg!
it looks like a match!
the top part is black which would explain why we can't see it in the night sky!
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You can even see the window! Great work!
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Thanks, Michael.
Oh, and as per your question from Sucks, Guam has a tropical climate. ;D
Just comparing a screencap from the preview and the other picture I got from TrekEarth (http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Europe/Poland/East/Malopolskie/Pieskowa_Skala/photo527758.htm). The structure I've pointed out, similar perhaps?
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haha nevermind..I'm going back to Survivor or BED :lol3:
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Wow! Good job hakushu8! :tup:
Perhaps there is two legs in Poland. Krakow is due South of Warsaw. Perhaps there is a leg in Warsaw and one in Krakow? Or maybe they go to Krakow and then go to Warsaw in one uber-leg or vice versa.
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:jumpy: Fantastic find, hakushu! :tup:
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Fantastic job Hakekushu8! Great find! :happy: :happy:
Now we know there are at least 2 areas involved--can we fit in the pretty salt mine on the way too? :lol:
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BQ's seen just completing or heading towards the Detour between 1:05 and 1:27 pm
Puddin - I thought Chateu said that the BQ's were seen arriving/leaving the detour before 10:28AM
Nice work guys. Here the time for that location:
This shot was taken here before 10:42 am.
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you all convinced me WTG hakushu8 !! :jumpy:
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Looking more and more like two legs in Poland.
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Based upon the new info of the knight task being in Krakow and Phil's comment to C/M at a dark pit stop, that perhaps he is telling them that they are still racing and this is a 2 part leg which explains the 2 hour episode this week.
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I don't think so, there wouldn't be a greeter with Phil if this wasn't an actual pitstop
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I don't think so, there wouldn't be a greeter with Phil if this wasn't an actual pitstop
yeah you are right, I forgot about that.
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It's only about 16 miles away from Krakow, peach. :angel:
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:yess: Found it on Google Earth.
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Thanks Boingo!
So now we have Krakow (nearby sights include our Castle, the salt mines are only 15km (9miles) outside of Krakow :happy:, and Auschwitz is nearby too --would they go there? :o...)
And Warsaw, so it looks like 2 legs in Poland for sure.
apskip--would the teams by any chance fly into Krakow and not into Warsaw??
Trying to figure out which comes first--we have a Pitstop with Greeter in Warsaw which suggests an Elim--but seems like they would do that second leg not first, which suggests Krakow as the first leg.
But silly for them to backtrack to Krakow so we need flight help please!
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A quick Airwise check shows many many flights Amsterdam to Krakow leaving every hour or so all day--changing in Vienna, Paris, Munich, and Warsaw--takes about 4 hours or so depending on connection---so very easy to do flight wise....
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So now we have Krakow .... and Auschwitz is nearby too --would they go there? :o...)
And Warsaw, so it looks like 2 legs in Poland for sure.
apskip--would the teams by any chance fly into Krakow and not into Warsaw??
Trying to figure out which comes first--we have a Pitstop with Greeter in Warsaw which suggests an Elim--but seems like they would do that second leg not first, which suggests Krakow as the first leg.....
This is what I was thinking.
And I don't know if there are any Jewish racers, but of course this would be a powerful stop for all (but given the 3rd Reich atrocities to those who were "different") but especially for our 2 gay couples.
And I really think C/M were saying "Are you kidding me...." because it was the TBC bathmat....which means they could (still) be in first place (or not). (greeter or no greeter)
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Yeah - that seems like the most likely possibility, either that or they are 2nd to last ... even Phil, he has the face that he puts on when he tells a team they are CLOSE to being eliminated.
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I'd better let everyone know something about the BQ time estimate at the piano place. That is that the whole thing depends on one fuzzy little judgment call. And it is a call that anybody could make. No trigonometry needed. All you have to decide is whether or not it looks like the sun is shining on one or on two sides of the buildings in the picture. I decided it looks like only one wall (the one on the right of the corner line) is in the sunlight. But if you think the sun is also hitting the other wall then you should not subscribe to the time estimate I made.
And real great work Hakekushu8! That was a hard one to find.
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I think the sun is hitting the building right behind kandice, because you can even see the shadows of the trees, but I think it's only hitting it on the side facing us..Even the sky looks like an early morning sky though
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And I don't know if there are any Jewish racers, but of course this would be a powerful stop for all (but given the 3rd Reich atrocities to those who were "different") but especially for our 2 gay couples.
I was struck at how close the teams would be to Auschwitz geographically, but it would be hard to imagine them actually arranging a task there. It was hard enough for the teams to show respect at the Prisoner of War site last season. Touring Dachau was a profoundly moving experience for me, because it is so important to remember. But somehow I don't see even my beloved TAR going there, although it would be incredibly powerful.
But since I didn't get to go to Antarctica, I at least ought to get to visit the salt mines, right? And they aren't far at all! I want to see the chandelier made out of salt!
And Mirna says "you are kidding me right?" when Phil tells her she's won another catamaran!! :lol:
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And Mirna says "you are kidding me right?" when Phil tells her she's won another catamaran!! :lol:
:funny:
...or one of those $100 cameras that the hippies won. :groan:
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Here's my speculation for the moment:
The race goes straight to Warsaw (because the arrow-on-the-map says so). Uchenna & Joyce are eliminated. Don't hate me Puddin!
Then the second part of the two-leg show has teams going to Krakow, castle etc. Guidos eliminated.
Corrections welcomed!
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Here's my speculation for the moment:
The race goes straight to Warsaw (because the arrow-on-the-map says so). Uchenna & Joyce are eliminated. Don't hate me Puddin!
Then the second part of the two-leg show has teams going to Krakow, castle etc. Guidos eliminated.
Corrections welcomed!
I would jump for joy if that happened! Not because I don't like U/J, but because the boot list would be wrong then! But I don't see it happening since Izad said he is pretty sure U/J are the fifth team in Malaysia and I don't think they'd let go of two teams in 1 week, because that would leave us with the F4 from now until the end of april.
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A quick Airwise check shows many many flights Amsterdam to Krakow leaving every hour or so all day--changing in Vienna, Paris, Munich, and Warsaw--takes about 4 hours or so depending on connection---so very easy to do flight wise....
PEACH, you're a real kidder! "very easy to do flight wise". If so, then Airwise would have been able to do it from Nairobi to Krakow. It couldn't, as it comes only up with the only two leg connection that is possible - through MILAN. Now the complexity of the task becomes apparent when you have to do deal 3 leg connections through Heathrow, Gatwick, Schipol, Munich, Charles de Gaulle, Vienna and Budapest. Unfortunately, the predominance of flights from Nairobi come through Heathrow and Schipol, neither of which has direct flights to Krakow. I have been struggling with all possible combinations and can come up with only these as reasonable:
Eurofly 2240 departs NBO 0335 arrives MXP (Milan) 1325 AZ (Alitalia) 590 departs Milan 1425 arrives KRK 1625 This is the only really good one.
BA64 departs NBO 2320 arrives LHR 0505 LH 4765 departs LHR 0770 to MUC and connects there with LH 3334 arriving KRK 1220
KQ102 departs NBO 2350 arrives LHR 0545 and connects on Luthansa through MUNICH as shown just above
On Mondays, IB7621 departs 0850 and AA6728 departs 0855 and they arrive LHR at 1555, then LH 4754 departs 1720 to MUC and connects there with LH 3336 arriving KRK 2235.
If it's not Monday Dec.4(when Iberia or American clearly make more sense), then the other option is MS(Egyptair) 850 departing NBO 0445 arriving CAIRO 0830 connecting with MS 705 departing 1040 arriving MXP 1500, then AX588 departing 2120 arriving KRK 2320. This shows that not getting too far west makes up for the longer layover in Milan.
We need to remember the one DAR to AMS flight. On Sundays (Dec. 3) it is KL567 departing 1105pm arriving 0710am Dec. 4. If taken by the Guidos 24 hours later then it will be KL569 departing 1150pm arriving 0715am Dec. 5. The best connecting flights for that timing are also via Munich, LH 4611 departing AMS 0835 arriving MUC 1005 connecting with KL 3334 departing MUC 1055 arriving KRK 1220.
I also checked flights from KRK to Kuala Lumpur since we don't know the order of cities visited in Poland. Train, car or bus will be used between Warsaw and Krakow in my opinion, not flying but it is not clear which direction they will be travelling. From KRK to KUL the flights are very similar to out of Warsaw. LO227 departs KRK 0735 arriving VIE 0850 connecting with OS001 dpearting VIE at 1050 and nonstop to KUL at 0445.
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Puddin, have you had any luck with the codes for Phil's preview?
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Here's my speculation for the moment:
The race goes straight to Warsaw (because the arrow-on-the-map says so). Uchenna & Joyce are eliminated. Don't hate me Puddin!
Then the second part of the two-leg show has teams going to Krakow, castle etc. Guidos eliminated.
Corrections welcomed!
I'm still tired ..thanks al lot for making me work :lol:
So you have U/J & Guidos eliminated EP 7 & 8..if what you think is true then...
roughly..
EP9 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia 12-9/12/10 NEL
EP10 Hong Kong 12/11- 12/13? NEL
EP11 Macau 12/13-12/14? NEL
EP12 Yigo, Guam, 12/15- 12/16 Chas eliminated per spoilers (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.0.html)
EP13 Honolulu, HI to San Fran USA 12/16-12/17 Final 3
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Thanks Michael D...and Puddin
I guess there does not have to be two eliminations. I'm just saying that if U&J go in the first part then the Guidos have to go next. The reason I'm going this way is the ID of a Guido in armor.
So how sure is that Izad statement that U&J are the fifth team in town?
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Puddin, have you had any luck with the codes for Phil's preview?
Do you think I wouldn't have posted the preview? :lol:
Something is up ..the video's not available. I don't think the double episode was planned in advance and we know that Phil did all the previews in one sitting SO it just maybe they are still piecing a clip together or they can't show it because of the obvious reasons?
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Ah crap, they better put a preview up x_X
I'm looking forward to it!
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Thanks Michael D...and Puddin
I guess there does not have to be two eliminations. I'm just saying that if U&J go in the first part then the Guidos have to go next. The reason I'm going this way is the ID of a Guido in armor.
So how sure is that Izad statement that U&J are the fifth team in town?
I can't speak for Izad so if you want to read through his thread at sucks here ya go (http://p085.ezboard.com/fsurvivorsucksfrm23.showMessage?topicID=7459.topic) :lol:
izad :
*Those are the orders that they came in. Charla and Mirna got a huge lead. The other three teams came in close within each other.
*There five teams in this leg because I'm a good listener.
*again, since I did not personally see the fifth team, I'm going to take it with a grain of salt..
*from what I 'heard' - an African American couple who got delayed on their flight. with the fifth team, it's not an eye-witness account like the other four, so I can't confirm if what I heard was true.. so y'all can still speculate.
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There is still a lot to work on for this episode!! What and where is the detour for LEG7 ? What and where is the Roadblock for LEG8? Does the Knight Roadblock come before or after the Detours in Warsaw? :umn: Any chance the piano task is in Krakow?
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Wow you were fast puddin! I was just going to post that. :lol3:
I'm fairly confident in Izad's eavesdropping so I tend to believe it is true. It will be interesting to see how exactly they are not able to make the same flight as the majority of the other teams and why they are unable to get on another flight? weather problems perhaps? but I digress, that's a discussion for the next episode.
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I still think that there will be an intersection in one of these legs and U/J will be stuck working with B/J and that will put them so far behind that they wont be able to catch up!
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Here's my speculation for the moment:
The race goes straight to Warsaw (because the arrow-on-the-map says so). Uchenna & Joyce are eliminated. Don't hate me Puddin!
Then the second part of the two-leg show has teams going to Krakow, castle etc. Guidos eliminated.
Corrections welcomed!
That "arrow on the map says so" sure sounds right. (Any previous race w/ a double episode to compare this too?).
This would mean Warsaw first & Krakow second. (Do we know for sure where C/M's mat preview was?).
& since we still don't have visual confirmation of U/J in Poland (or for that matter in Asia).....not unitl they're having a cocktail on a plane over the Pacific. ???
Maybe Chateau is right. (but jeez.... 3 non-elimanation legs in a row would get REAL old) :rolleyes
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Do we know for sure where C/M's mat preview was?
Well, you can see that Phil is standing beside the same greater that he is standing beside during the "daylight shot", which I'm pretty sure has been identified as the palace on the water or whatever it's called in Warsaw.
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Yes OK - confirmed for no 1st for C/M, at least not on one part of the leg.
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What's with the BQs praying, I wonder where they are!
oh yeah - THANKS PUDDIN! :kissy:
What do you know, Phil finally changed his shirt!
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What's with the BQs praying, I wonder where they are!
oh yeah - THANKS PUDDIN! :kissy:
ttly! I thought (& hope) tht the BQ's come in first!!!!
It could be that Shmirna comes 5th
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Chara is wearing different clothes in that cab ride, so it's probably from which ever leg they aren't almost last.
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oh wait, Charla isn't wearing the same shirt here:
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That she's wearing when she checks in at the pit stop....what gives?
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Well, that answers that question.
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What question? wow my bad - i just saw the title of the photo, yeah, and that would explain this as well:
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Well, that answers that question.
:knuckles: damn I'm slow today ...I was just searching that Boingo! :wtg:
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That's going to be an emotional moment I bet. Are there any Jewish racers racing right now?
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:lol: Looks like Mirna picked up a helper...again. She can really schmooze the locals. :rotf:
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oh wait, Charla isn't wearing the same shirt here:
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That she's wearing when she checks in at the pit stop....what gives?
Yep....Charla is wearing the shirt in the cab & at the knight roadblock (which is in Krakow). & the vest when they are tuning the piano (detour) & carrying the life sized doll with their Polish fern. (after leaving the "Doctoro's" office.) She also has the vest on at the pitstop.
Nice to see U/J (finally)...so they...
- Arrive in Krakow.
- Go to Concentration Camp (Auschwiz?) detour? (D&K look appropriately somber.)
- Go to castle for a little knight walking (jousting?)
Then on Warsaw?
(or is the Concentration Camp the location of the TBC mat?)
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Which camp is this? & how far from Krakow?
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I think there are simply two Poland legs, with one being a non-elimination and the other being an elimination. They wouldn't air a TBC episode and air the next part right away, because the whole point of TBC is to get ratings.
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Which camp is this? & how far from Krakow?
It is Birkenau--OMG, I looked at this earlier but never really thought they would go there. Kudos to TAR!
Here is a virtual tour from remember Auschwitz of the Birkenau Camp (http://www.remember.org/auschwitz/bir.php?id=2) , includes scenes from inside the Death Tower
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Wow. Now we have a lot more things to search.
I suspect a clue is hidden inside the mannequin. The racer must have the mannequin x-rayed and then interpret the clue on the radiograph. Fun! Rentgen relates to Conrad Wilhem Roentgen, a German physicist who discovered x-rays.
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pfft, homework, no way :happy:
I'm just glad that there is a 2 hour episode this sunday and that D/K MIGHT come in first!
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The concentration camp is known as Birkenau. It was the death camp where the jews and others were brought for murder. The companion camp was known as Oswiecm better known as Auschwitz and this camp was a work camp where prisoners were worked to death. There were survivors from Auschwitz, but hardly anyone left Birkenau alive. The slogan in Auschwitz was Arbeit macht Frei Work makes Freedom. Both camps are together about 50km from Krakow.
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'To Be Continued' Stops
Season 6 introduced the first double-length "superlegs" shown over two episodes. The televised episode ends with a 'To Be Continued' message instead of a Pit Stop. The second half of the leg featured a second Detour and second Roadblock. Seasons 7, 8 and 9 each had superleg with teams meeting Keoghan on the usual Pit Stop mat at the halfway point, only to have him hand them the next clue instead of checking them in. In Season 10, the superleg did not involve meeting Keoghan, but rather teams were informed to "KEEP RACING!!!" in their next route marker. In addition, the 2-hour finale of Season 8 took place over a superleg similar to Season 6's. Generally, the clues leading up to these longer legs are easy to identify because the teams will read a clue like "Go find Phil at the mat" instead of "Check into the next Pit Stop." While there was no set rest period between the two parts of these legs, there usually is some point for the teams to eat, rest and recover prior to the second set of tasks, either due to waiting for hours of operation with provided accommodations or a long train or plane ride.
"To Be Continued" legs appeared to be born out of sheer luck during Season 6. Leg 6 in Hungary was originally planned to be two legs, with a non-elimination point (with the stripping-of-all-cash rule in place) between the legs. However, the producers discovered during the race that begging is illegal in Hungary, which would have made it nearly impossible for the last place team to acquire the money needed for the upcoming leg, and quickly devised the extended leg to mimic the effects of a non-elimination leg (keeping the same number of teams in the race), and using a simple video message clue to provide teams the goal for the first task of the second half of the leg
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:lol: I see puddin is getting in the 19th century mood. Which Polish nobility did you pick for your new avitar, puddin? ;D
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Which camp is this? & how far from Krakow?
It is Birkenau--OMG, I looked at this earlier but never really thought they would go there. Kudos to TAR!
i found it too. The "Gate of Death" in front of Birkenau. Where the trains came in. :(
The Amazing Race is truly amazing. Good for them that this is a 2 hour episode.
(thanks for the info on TBC episodes, Puddin! Nice Pic, too. BTW)
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Some random Queen of Poland :lol:
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The visit to Auschwitz-Birkenau is going to be a really emotional stop. Auschwitz has been turned into a living museum; you see the cells where prisoners were either starved to death or sealed in to die from lack of air or where 8 prisioners are forced to stand up in a cell one meter in size. And of course there are the original ovens used to dispose of the bodies.
There isn't much left in Birenau just some empty buildings and the ruins where the huge crematoriums were.
I think it would only be fair to give them a tour of the Wieliczka Salt Mines just to give them something to remember Krakow for.
Have we a clue of where C and M are carrying the Manaquen? And what for? If this a detour, what is the other task.
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Have we a clue of where C and M are carrying the Manaquen? And what for? If this a detour, what is the other task.
Just looking into that, now that we have new vidcaps. Given the radiology on the dummy, I'm looking at these possible google phrases:
Madame Curie
University of Warsaw Radiology Dept.
etc., etc. B:) :-\
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The visit to Auschwitz-Birkenau is going to be a really emotional stop. Auschwitz has been turned into a living museum; you see the cells where prisoners were either starved to death or sealed in to die from lack of air or where 8 prisioners are forced to stand up in a cell one meter in size. And of course there are the original ovens used to dispose of the bodies.
There isn't much left in Birenau just some empty buildings and the ruins where the huge crematoriums were.
I think it would only be fair to give them a tour of the Wieliczka Salt Mines just to give them something to remember Krakow for.
Have we a clue of where C and M are carrying the Manaquen? And what for? If this a detour, what is the other task.
Thanks for the info on Birkenau, Gingerman.
Regarding C/M....looks like the pretty "helper" (is "fern" an acceptible term here?) is carrying a backpack. I looked at University of Warsaw (& it's medical school) for pics and havent' found anything yet.
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Detour guess " Picture perfect (dummy)or Pitch Perfect (piano)"
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I wonder why C/M switch
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Yay! I finally watched Survivor today after such a long time!
*completely off topic*
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“The one who does not remember history
is bound to live through it again.”
/George Santayana/
Holocaust Survivor Auschwitz Photo Journal (http://isurvived.org/Survivors_Folder/Lustig_Oliver/Commentary-PhotoAlbum-1.html#Up)
Virtual Tour of Birkenau (http://www.remember.org/auschwitz/bir.php?id=2)
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I've attached a kmz for Birkenau; not much to look at, it's in the fuzzylands about 35 miles from Krakow. (I don't want to be the grouch, so I'll say this about it and shut up: I think the whole idea is rather tasteless. Documentaries? Yes. Game shows? No.)
There's a branch of the Curie Institute (http://www.coi.waw.pl/dojazd/mapa.JPG) in Warsaw (the main one is in Paris) on Roentgen street on the south edge of town, but I don't have any pictures yet.
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Yeah - I really hope that all the other teams do as D/K appear to be doing and take a moment of silence to remember all the people who were murdered.
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Might be the X-Ray Dummy place? I'm still looking for the outside,lol.
Panoramik. NZOZ. Rentgen Stomatologiczny i Ogólnodiagnostyczny (http://www.medserwis.pl/nm.asp?p=4128,1,91907)
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I'm sure there is more then one walkway but the path that C/M are on has no bricks on it, but the other path does
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The video might not pick up the bricks..still looking,lol.
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Thanks everyone. ;D
Oh, wow. Birkenau. Hopefully it's just a Route Info, and they would only stop for a clue. But seeing Uchenna/Joyce reading something, it would seem that they're required to do something in there. Or maybe it's the ground rules of the site. There's only six teams left, and pretty respectful people I believe, so I don't think they would treat the place like "just another Route Info stop."
Yes, peach. The Salt Mines look pretty. Hopefully they do go there.
I'm liking the dummy detour, if it indeed involved getting an X-ray of the clue inside the dummy. Although that sounds expensive. The clue would have to be of something hard in order to be X-rayed, like hydroxyapatite, or something muscly (?) like lung tissue.
Oh, and Gabinet 5 = Level 5? :lol3:
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:angel: OK, just jumping in here to compare maps of detour tasks. If puddin's x-ray place is where C/M take the dummy, then it's not very far from the piano tuning task (just a little more west). Or maybe not. :-\ :carryon:
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hakushu8 you made my day!! that was one of the all time top finds!! :jumpy:
Boingo if my X-Ray place is right its also near the Okie Dokie Hostel :lol:
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lol see what happens when I forget to read my email..
From GMan!! They are Hugh so click click the pics!!
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Hey--I've been waiting for that map! Thanks G-man!
But it is too teeny for me to use and gets all blurry when I make it bigger--any way to enlarge it please? Thanks--MAPS needs it! :lol:
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Help from a fern:
- The first cap shows the fern with her pack and Mirna's (red) pack, Charla is carrying her small black pack
- The second cap shows Charla carrying Mirna's pack. Who's carrying the black pack? Charla? The fern? hard to tell. So far, so good. They pulled this stunt in Uruguay and got away with it.
- The third cap shows the fern helping with the dummy, which probably isn't allowed.
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I am so happy (may not be the right term) that the producers are not going to waste a trip to Poland without some form of rememberance to the horrors that happened there.
Both my sisters and my brother have been to tour concentration camps and all three say its probably the most moving thing htey have ever done.
Hopefully the racers will respect this. And hopefully the producers are smart enough not to make it so much of a task as an event.
A good example of how to handle this was Season 6 when tehy had to go through the final door leading to the ships to sail the slaves away.
Even annoying teams like Jonathan and Victoria and Adam and Rebecca were behaving themselves properly.
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Warsaw University is just across the street from the Czapski Palace (with the Horse statue and the BQ's) and two blocks further up we saw C and M waving for a cab by the Zacheta and Augsburg Protestant Church.
This seems to be the C and M show; way too much emphasis on their deeds and little else of the others.
Detour most likely would not be either tuning the piano or the x ray; UNLESS C and M started one, gave up and tried the next one.
Getting pretty confusing; we need some kind of scenario to hang our hats on:
One Idea:
Day One: Hydrofoil from Zanzibar to Dar es Salaam
Fly Dar es Salaam to Nairobi
Fly Nairobi to Amsterdam
Fly Amsterdam to Krakow
Day Two: Arrive in Krakow
Make visits to places we have not seen (lots of ideas) but most likely the Wawal area and hopefully trip to Wieliczka Salt Mines
Travel to Oswiecim and visit Auschwitz-Birkenau for rememberance visit
Travel to Pieskowa Skala for DETOUR - Knight's Night Off
Pit stop in the Palace: "you got to be kiddin?" because it is TBC
Day Three: Travel to Warsaw
Many places to visit and tasks to do
Ostrogski or Czapski Palace to do the Piano Tune
Warsaw University for the X Ray
Perhaps something at the Memorial to the Heroes of the Warsaw Uprising
Finally to Lazienki Park to find the statue of King Jan III Sobieski (on the bridge of troubled waters) DETOUR find a rowboat and row to the Palace on the Water. Get instructions here to go to pit stop
Pit stop on the path towards the White House in Lazienki Park
Philimination No. 6.
This is just an idea, please feel free to embelish it or tell me it is all wet and I will jump in to Lazienki Lake and cool off.
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Here's a little extra information for those of you not familiar with the double meaning of the word Roentgen (English language spelling):
Roent·gen, Wilhelm Konrad 1845-1923.
German physicist who discovered x-rays and developed x-ray photography, revolutionizing medical diagnosis. He won a 1901 Nobel Prize.
roent·gen A unit of radiation exposure equal to the quantity of ionizing radiation that will produce one electrostatic unit of electricity in one cubic centimeter of dry air at 0°C and standard atmospheric pressure. Obviously named after the discoverer of X-rays.
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What are we looking for? :waves: ..I got off track and am looking for something to do.
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There is still a lot to work on for this episode!! What and where is the detour for LEG7 ? What and where is the Roadblock for LEG8? Does the Knight Roadblock come before or after the Detours in Warsaw? :umn: Any chance the piano task is in Krakow?
:lol: here you go puddin! :lol:
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NO NO I can't look inside one more building for that piano place!! :lol:
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Well--it is either that or go irradiate a couple of dummies! :lol:
Personally, I'm down in the salt mines!
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Finally have the code..you can the Hi-Res Phil preview here (http://tinyurl.com/yqqmpx).
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Just getting some time info straight from Ep6:
This shot was taken here between 1:50 and 1:58 pm (assumes December 3rd)
Using the tall pole that casts a shadow straight to the camera and parallel to the building.
This means it took them 8 hours and 20 min to make the Dhow trip.
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Well--it is either that or go irradiate a couple of dummies! :lol:
Personally, I'm down in the salt mines!
I think my dummy X-Ray, Dentist place is right..even though SeeBS filtered the video the floors match and then theres that radiator :lol:.
another view of my park
( And Chateau :yourock: )
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Nice Chateau!
That was one long ride--no wonder everybody looked sunburned!
And your place looks like a match to me puddin! What led you there?? ???
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This shot was taken between 3:42 and 4:02 pm (assumes December 3rd).
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I'm liking the dummy detour, if it indeed involved getting an X-ray of the clue inside the dummy. Although that sounds expensive. The clue would have to be of something hard in order to be X-rayed, like hydroxyapatite, or something muscly (?) like lung tissue.
A thin piece of metal inside the dummy would be very easy to detect on an x-ray. Many X-ray Departments are digital, so after x-raying the mannequin, the image would show up on a computer screen (vs. developing film). This would not cost very much ... unless you are going to bill an insurance company!
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The yellow lightpoles in Puddin's pics are unique (3 old timey lamps at the top). I couldn't see the tops of the lamps from the video though. (nor could i make out the lamps from puddin's second set of pictures).
Also, when D/K are jumping....is it possible they are in the same park (quadrangle) that C/M are carrying the mannequin in? (Trees look similar)
Rats...for whatever reason, the pics didn't show....I wish i was less of a dork & more of a geek. :pedaler:
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Any chance someone can "read" the tag on the mannequin's pants?
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Warsaw University is just across the street from the Czapski Palace (with the Horse statue and the BQ's) and two blocks further up we saw C and M waving for a cab by the Zacheta and Augsburg Protestant Church.
This seems to be the C and M show; way too much emphasis on their deeds and little else of the others.
Detour most likely would not be either tuning the piano or the x ray; UNLESS C and M started one, gave up and tried the next one.
Getting pretty confusing; we need some kind of scenario to hang our hats on:
One Idea:
Day One: Hydrofoil from Zanzibar to Dar es Salaam
Fly Dar es Salaam to Nairobi
Fly Nairobi to Amsterdam
Fly Amsterdam to Krakow
Day Two: Arrive in Krakow
Make visits to places we have not seen (lots of ideas) but most likely the Wawal area and hopefully trip to Wieliczka Salt Mines
Travel to Oswiecim and visit Auschwitz-Birkenau for rememberance visit
Travel to Pieskowa Skala for DETOUR - Knight's Night Off
Pit stop in the Palace: "you got to be kiddin?" because it is TBC
Day Three: Travel to Warsaw
Many places to visit and tasks to do
Ostrogski or Czapski Palace to do the Piano Tune
Warsaw University for the X Ray
Perhaps something at the Memorial to the Heroes of the Warsaw Uprising
Finally to Lazienki Park to find the statue of King Jan III Sobieski (on the bridge of troubled waters) DETOUR find a rowboat and row to the Palace on the Water. Get instructions here to go to pit stop
Pit stop on the path towards the White House in Lazienki Park
Philimination No. 6.
This is just an idea, please feel free to embelish it or tell me it is all wet and I will jump in to Lazienki Lake and cool off.
Hi G-Man! :waves:
The only problem I see is that your Palace Pitstop on day 1 in Kracow ("you have got to be kidding me") actually occurs at the Mat in Lazienski Park at the Palace on the Water--we aren't sure where the Mat (TBC?) occurs yet in leg 1 although my guess would be at Pieskowa...
So here is my guess:
Thanks apskip for all the great flight work--I didn't think it would be so hard! I knew you had us to Amsterdam and from there it looked pretty easy! Sorry about that... :lol:
Here's what I think might happen:
Teams leave Zanzibar, probably via hydrofoil for Dar.
I still think flights out of Dar are at a premium due to the Hajj, so I wouldn't be surprised if the teams went via whatever was supposed to be the lost Pitstop (maybe Arusha?) and took whatever transport TPTB had planned --to get to Nairobi--(could be ground or air)--or a charter flight...
A task is possible but not probable.
Off to Nairobi and per apskip's flights, possibly via Amsterdam to Warsaw and on to Krakow.
I suspect flights Warsaw to Krakow, but we haven't done a train trip yet either!
Start in Krakow and on to The Salt Mines (total wishful thinking with no supportive evidence whatsoever! :lol:) and then to Birkenau (tasks unknown).
Then off to Pieskowa for the Roadblock--Knight's on Horseback--where Ch/Mirna fall seriously behind because Charla has trouble with the horse.
Luckily they are still racing and it is a TBC. (Pitstop here??)
On to Warsaw next day (Drive or train) where the teams have a choice of Detours:
X-Ray a mannequin for who knows (might be a nod to Marie Curie) why OR
Tune Chopin's Piano.
On to the Palace on the Water and Roadblock Row to Phil (hopefully something a little more exciting here) and then
Run to Phil at the Pitstop at Lazienski Park.
Still no rappelling--no bungee--no skydiving--so much for making it really hard for the All Stars! :lol:
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I don't think it's a TBC when C/M arrive at the pitstop and say "Are you kidding me" because Phil is standing right beside a greater.
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I am so happy (may not be the right term) that the producers are not going to waste a trip to Poland without some form of rememberance to the horrors that happened there.
Both my sisters and my brother have been to tour concentration camps and all three say its probably the most moving thing htey have ever done.
Hopefully the racers will respect this. And hopefully the producers are smart enough not to make it so much of a task as an event.
A good example of how to handle this was Season 6 when tehy had to go through the final door leading to the ships to sail the slaves away.
Even annoying teams like Jonathan and Victoria and Adam and Rebecca were behaving themselves properly.
I agree with your thoughts exactly, mswood.
TAR has always shown respect when appropriate. (except maybe when they were running through the POW museum in N. Vietnam).
Also, a "racearoundtheworld" will take them to places that almost demand a visit (if nearby). Since I doubt that I will ever be able to visit Poland (or Vietnam or Western Africa)....I'm glad that TAR stops there.
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I don't think it's a TBC when C/M arrive at the pitstop and say "Are you kidding me" because Phil is standing right beside a greater.
I agree Michael--I think that is where we lose the Guidos--which is why I put that as the second city in my guess.
I'm saying it may be TBC at the other mat, which I think may end up being at Pieskowa (knight castle) but could certainly be Birkenau as well...
ETA: if anyone is desperate for a Polish translation of anything--let me know. I have someone willing to give it a go tomorrow morning....
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Another reason that Warsaw is after Krakow is that pitstop is where all the "kidding " goes on is right next to Lazienki Palace or Palace on the water whatever you want to call it and inside that Palace is where we have the Guido & Danielle confessionals ...now if it were a TBC at this point then that wouldn't explain the Dani/Guido confessional in the Palace...they wouldn't have time to sit and talk.
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^^^ What puddin said!
In reference to the title of this week's episode:
Do we just get one for both hours?
And since we are going to Birkenau, does anyone else get the sinking feeling that "I would ask for your number" may hve a whole new meaning? :(
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I don't think it's a TBC when C/M arrive at the pitstop and say "Are you kidding me" because Phil is standing right beside a greater.
I agree Michael--I think that is where we lose the Guidos--which is why I put that as the second city in my guess.
I'm saying it may be TBC at the other mat, which I think may end up being at Pieskowa (knight castle) but could certainly be Birkenau as well...
But if these racers saw Phil with NO greeter, then they would KNOW that it is TBC......
BUT.... if after racing from Zanzibar, to Kenya, to the Netherlands, to Warsaw (maybe), to Krakow, 40 miles to a concentration camp, then back to a castle, put on a knight's outfit, ride a horse (fall on your face)...then run to a pit stop with an 18th century prince standing there.....then their reaction (when told it was a TBC)....would likely be "ARE YOU F..... KIDDING ME???" :faint:
and Peach...not only no rappelling, bungee etc., but no hairy lip, ostrich egg, live octopuss, fish eyeball or mountains of caviar "eating tasks"....wimps. 8)
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Since we have no clear cut evidence of a mat in Krakow after the knight roadblock, could it be like last season where the clue states KEEP RACING?? There wasn't a mat in that situation and they just kept a goin..... :dknow
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Another reason that Warsaw is after Krakow is that pitstop is where all the "kidding " goes on is right next to Lazienki Palace or Palace on the water whatever you want to call it and inside that Palace is where we have the Guido & Danielle confessionals ...now if it were a TBC at this point then that wouldn't explain the Dani/Guido confessional in the Palace...they wouldn't have time to sit and talk.
Well....Puddin's logic (and Charla wearing the vest at the "you got to be kidding me" moment)...blows my theory out of the water. :groan: :nm:
Thus...C/M are thinking they are eliminated & the mat is in Warsaw next to the water palace.
I will now sit like a grasshopper & watch the masters at work. :noob:
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^^ Thats why I have been checking AOL for a extra clip, lol wishful thinking. I wonder if the teams aren't directed to an internet cafe? or the case just maybe Phil handing them the " keep racing clue" or the clue just says to keep racing? " I DUNNO" it has to be one of those options.
peach, one title..we might never know what the other one was suppose to be :knuckles:
As far as the title my guess its Mirna/Charla to the lovely fern helping them with the dummy.
Now you all have me wondering when, if at all, we'll see the roaming gnome?
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I think that we are making headway.
End of Ep 7 is a TBC at Pieskowa Skala castle.
If the teams do tasks in Krakow, then go to the Wieliczka Salt Mines,
Then on to Birkenau-Auschwitz,
Then on to Pieskowa Skala
the teams are travelling in a more or less circle around Krakow with a radius of about 50kms.
The next day, teams (or they keep going after they are told TBC)could travel to Czestochowa, stop at the Monastery of Jasna Gora home of the famous "Black Madona" one of the most famous pilgramage sites in Poland. (Also a good "bunching point" waiting for opening hours at 5:00AM). From here there is direct, high-speed train service to Warsaw.
Since we have a visit of Birkenau, perhaps to balance would be either a stop at the Monument of the Fallen Heros of the Warsaw Uprising (that is when the Poles took up the fight agasinst the Germans with the Russians on the other side of the Wisla River but who waited and waited until most of the Polish Resistance fighters were slaughtered by the Nazis) or, the Monument to the Ghetto Heroes. Both important reminders of the Polish World War II experience.
Then we have a DETOUR perhaps of either Tune the Piano, or XRay the manaquin. BUT if this is the Detour than we have C and M starting one task and then doing the other.
But first the teams must locate the monument to King Jan III Sobieski on the bridge in Lazienki Park (this is the statue we have seen in the opening vidpix) and this is where they may get the Roadblock task.
The ROADBLOCK could be doing something with the boats on the Lake in Lazienki Park since we only see one of the Cha Cha Chas in the boat (having a miserable time rowing)
And then, at least one thing we can all agree on, the Pit Stop mat, Phil and the Greeter is on the wide path just west of the Palace on the Water leading to the White House. Looks like the Cha Chas are arriving quite a bit before C and M.
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lets see if this matchs..
The yellow lightpoles in Puddin's pics are unique (3 old timey lamps at the top). I couldn't see the tops of the lamps from the video though. (nor could i make out the lamps from puddin's second set of pictures).
Also, when D/K are jumping....is it possible they are in the same park (quadrangle) that C/M are carrying the mannequin in? (Trees look similar)
Rats...for whatever reason, the pics didn't show....I wish i was less of a dork & more of a geek. :pedaler:
The park-like area that C and M are carrying the dummy is a much larger, more open area that where we see the BQ's jumping with the statue of the man on a horse behind them is situated inside a courtyard of Czapski Palace. So I think it is two different areas.
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Since we have no clear cut evidence of a mat in Krakow after the knight roadblock, could it be like last season where the clue states KEEP RACING?? There wasn't a mat in that situation and they just kept a goin..... :dknow
That's what I think too!
I will now sit like a grasshopper & watch the masters at work
. No way hound--keep it coming--you are doing good!
Now you all have me wondering when, if at all, we'll see the roaming gnome?
He is in the salt mine!
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Wow I can't believe that ride on the dhow was 8 hours!
As for the stop in Birkenau, when I saw the pic of the camp it reminded me of the scene from "Life is Beautiful" with Roberto Beninni, where the little boy is the only survivor and the American tank comes in and finds him. Of course the little boy thinks he has won the tank thanks to his father telling him that they reason they were in the camp was part of a game and the winner wins a real tank. I loved that movie. Anyway, I am sure the racers visiting the camp will be very dramatic and none of these teams seem like the kind that would be disrespectful. I wonder if they will just be picking up a clue there or if they have to perform a task? Is there an area there where you can light a candle to remember those that died there?
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I think hound pointed out something interesting in the other thread, for episode 9. C/M don't have to come in first just because they are 2hr ahead in Malaysia, maybe E/D, D/O, D/K got on an earlier flight and it was just delayed!
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lol on the gnomes in the salt Mines peach :lol:
...and yeah that Hound! keep it coming you help keep us on our toes! we were all n00b's at one time.
..and true that Michael! for all we know C/M come in 5th! Since its the Charla/Mirna show we have no idea, other than the Cha's and BQ's, where the heck Dani/Eric as well as Uchenna/Joyce and the Guidos are in Warsaw. I mean if the spoilers hold up and the Guidos are last then how the heck did they get so far behind the other teams in Warsaw? What could have held them up? Were they so far behind that they missed the train out of Krakow? ( Love the train idea Gman!). Or did they mess up a challenge and then had to go back to complete it?
Whats the Roadblock in Warsaw? the boats just seem too close to the pitstop but maybe thats it and its just the obvious?
Where the heck is the Fast Forward? Why hasn't the Yield come into play?
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This means it took them 8 hours and 20 min to make the Dhow trip.
No wonder the Cha's said (essentially) "Screw the free Catamarans.....let's get some fruit." :dryoff:
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This means it took them 8 hours and 20 min to make the Dhow trip.
The producers at work again. Trying to close he gap between "run-away" teams and the unlucky airline bootees!
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I think hound pointed out something interesting in the other thread, for episode 9. C/M don't have to come in first just because they are 2hr ahead in Malaysia, maybe E/D, D/O, D/K got on an earlier flight and it was just delayed!
Remember that Izad says that Ch/Mirna were 2 hours ahead when they left the Steps, but that he thought this was early in Malaysia with still lots of time for teams to catch up to each other along the way.
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lol on the gnomes in the salt Mines peach :lol:
...and yeah that Hound! keep it coming you help keep us on our toes! we were all n00b's at one time.
....I mean if the spoilers hold up and the Guidos are last then how the heck did they get so far behind the other teams in Warsaw?
...Whats the Roadblock in Warsaw? the boats just seem too close to the pitstop but maybe thats it and its just the obvious?
- Those gnomes cracked me up peach. :lol3:
- Thanks for the encouragement, peach & puddin (& others) :hearts: I figured i'd be kicked out of the sandbox. ;)
- Is it possible that the Guido's are a full day (1/2 day) behind from the get go & stay there? Thus saving Schmirna's bacon. (since they had been apparently bleeding alot of time on the leg.)
- Any reason that the "Roadblock in Warsaw" isn't IN Warsaw? (only the detour) Maybe 3 tasks in greater Crakow, or 2 in Krakow & one half way in between (salt mine / black maddona / "fallen heroes" statue, etc.)?
(I'm gonna go reasearch some more so i can come up with more spellings of Krakow & learn more about the Black Madonna & the Monument to the Fallen Heroes....both of which would be logical & interesting stops.) :bliss:
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Yeah - just like when Peter and Sarah and Dustin and Kandice got onto the 7 50 AM flight to India, they had the "Be back at 11" sign, which drastically cut their lead.
Great questions puddin, I also was wondering all of those things. I'm betting that we can leave the intersection out...unless it happens during the same leg is the knight detour, which is why we haven't seen any photos from the detour from the first poland leg!
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.Just watched CSI from last night, and a new promo gives a lot of new information.
scenes of Bill and Joe and Eric and Dee at an airport. And we see steps being wheeled away from a plane which I can idenify as a KLM flight (typical blue and white). This must be Jomo Kenyatta Int'l airport in Nairobi.. And it is at night. At Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam all planes are loaded unloaded through jet ways not stairs on the tarmac. Also there is no way any one, especially suspicious ones with backpack would ever be allowed onto the tarmac as we see Bill as he trys to wave down the plane. What does he think this is some hackney taxicab?? From the footage it looks like Bill and Joe along with Eric and Dee (and perhaps Uchenna and Joyce) are left behind the others in Nairobi.
In the scene of the BQ's running and jumping at the Czapski Palace, the scene is brighter and you can clearly see that one of BQ's is clutching the DETOUR envelop (two way arrow on the cover). So my guess is that Piano Tuning is one of the two Detour tasks, and they have completed it (perhaps they have to find the one out of tune key among the 88). The site may be the drawing room (salon) in the south wing which was occupied by the Chopin family which has been reconstructed with period furniture and is open to the public. Therefore, it may be that the C and M team tried to do it but quit and went to find the dummy (and nobody would help them find a cab - which by the way do not cruise like they do in the states but are called by phone or picked up at a marked taxi rank)
After the competion of the Detour, I think that the teams must then locate the monument of King Jan III Sobieski on the Agrykola Bridge in Lazienki Park.
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Wow I can't believe that ride on the dhow was 8 hours!
As for the stop in Birkenau, when I saw the pic of the camp it reminded me of the scene from "Life is Beautiful" with Roberto Beninni, where the little boy is the only survivor and the American tank comes in and finds him.
Birkenau was "libeated" by the Russian Army.
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lol on the gnomes in the salt Mines peach :lol:
...and yeah that Hound! keep it coming you help keep us on our toes! we were all n00b's at one time.
..and true that Michael! for all we know C/M come in 5th! Since its the Charla/Mirna show we have no idea, other than the Cha's and BQ's, where the heck Dani/Eric as well as Uchenna/Joyce and the Guidos are in Warsaw. I mean if the spoilers hold up and the Guidos are last then how the heck did they get so far behind the other teams in Warsaw? What could have held them up? Were they so far behind that they missed the train out of Krakow? ( Love the train idea Gman!). Or did they mess up a challenge and then had to go back to complete it?
Whats the Roadblock in Warsaw? the boats just seem too close to the pitstop but maybe thats it and its just the obvious?
Where the heck is the Fast Forward? Why hasn't the Yield come into play?
In the new promo (last night onb CSI) you can see Bill and Joe along with Eric and Dee (and perhaps Uchenna and Joyce as well) all together at Nairobi's Jomo Kenyatta International airport as the KLM plane pulls away and they all are left behind! When is the next plane?
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Yes-It's looking more and more like the BQs come first at least in one part of this leg! :jam:
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I'm with you G-Man!
This must be Jomo Kenyatta Int'l airport in Nairobi
I tried to do some airport matching upstream here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11762.msg181361.html#msg181361)--let me know if you think it is a match.
And I put some pics of the Chopin Museum rooms in the Czapski Palace parlour here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11762.msg181470.html#msg181470) but unfortunately they don't seem to match up with the pics of where Ch/Mirna were--we are still looking for that room if you can help??
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Yes-It's looking more and more like the BQs come first at least in one part of this leg! :jam:
amen to that michael :jam:
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Yes-It's looking more and more like the BQs come first at least in one part of this leg! :jam:
YAY lol
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Wow I can't believe that ride on the dhow was 8 hours!
http://www.zanzibar.org/#guide
At this website it says:
"Boats to or from Dar-es-Salaam, Pemba, Tanga, and Mombasa
A recent law passed in Tanzania prohibits tourists from travelling in wooden crafts, which prevents tourists from taking dhows to or from the Tanzanian mainland. This law was passed after a German tourist pitched overboard from a dhow and drowned, ruining the fun for the rest of us who might want to spend eight to twelve hours on a wooden boat without shelter from the sun and without food, water, or plumbing facilities. It is a silly law and has silly exceptions such as sunset cruises around Zanzibar harbor such as is offered by Mtoni Marine.
Although dhows are no longer a possible means of transport for tourists in Tanzanian waters, there are many other boats to choose from. If you have your heart set on a dhow ride from mainland to island, you can legally board a dhow in Mombasa that will take you, most likely, to Pemba. The dhows have no services, toilets, or cafeterias and can be dangerous in high swells. Some people have had lovely dhow rides but if the winds die or are light, your trip can last well over eight hours."
I saw a lot of mention of at least 4 to as much as 9 hrs. This is the only site that had anything about restrictions of use.
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I'm with you G-Man!
This must be Jomo Kenyatta Int'l airport in Nairobi
I tried to do some airport matching upstream here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11762.msg181361.html#msg181361)--let me know if you think it is a match.
And I put some pics of the Chopin Museum rooms in the Czapski Palace parlour here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11762.msg181470.html#msg181470) but unfortunately they don't seem to match up with the pics of where Ch/Mirna were--we are still looking for that room if you can help??
Try to see if you can find any shots of the Chopin piano in the Ostrogski Palace. This is site of the Frederic Chopin Museum and there is one room hich contains the actual grand piano on which Chopin composed during his last two years in Warsaw. There is one very very small picture in my guide and the room has light yellow walls and wood chair rail about one meter high. The piano is on a oriental rug on a polished wood floor. Can't tell much more.
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I'm with you G-Man!
This must be Jomo Kenyatta Int'l airport in Nairobi
I tried to do some airport matching upstream here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11762.msg181361.html#msg181361)--let me know if you think it is a match.
And I put some pics of the Chopin Museum rooms in the Czapski Palace parlour here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11762.msg181470.html#msg181470) but unfortunately they don't seem to match up with the pics of where Ch/Mirna were--we are still looking for that room if you can help??
In the opening of the CSI promo last night, there is a shot of an airport waiting room with a hiigh wall of windows looking out over the tarmac. This is where the Quantas plane is seen in the background and a two engine prop plane taxies across in front of the windows. Maybe just a "stock\" shot or maybe not.
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Was it like this?
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And for the piano room--I have this from the Chopin Museum which doesn't match where Ch/Mirna are...
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more gnomes via Gman :kissy:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/Saltmines_Gnome.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/Salt_mine_Gnomes.jpg)
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I was watching the video again and was lol ..just for fun! The Roadblock in Warsaw is you have to ride the boat across the lake and your feet aren't allowed to touch the boat ..only with your hands, not feet :lol:
and then theres Gmans blue/white plane.
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LOL, seriously (about the roadblock?)
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LOL, seriously (about the roadblock?)
I'm making stuff up again because I'm bored Michael, lol.
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haha - so am I!
I wish Izad would reveal some stuff about episode 9 to save us!
I think tonight we'll get some E/D photos!
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I've been concentrating on this videocap (http://www.izadsyah.com/images/charlaouch.gif) that Izad had in his website (photo courtesy of ADC from Sucks). I think it's the Pieskowa Skala, north of Krakow. The clock and the window below it looks very similar.
And from here (http://www.city-discovery.com/krakow/tour.php?id=1302):
Description : 40 minutes drive through a charming Prądnik River Valley, forming Ojców National Park among limestone hills and rocks of incredible shapes (e.g. Hercules Club) and caves.
According to a legend, one of them was a shelter of Polish King Władysław the Short , a refugee at that time.
Visit at Renaissance Castle in Pieskowa Skała, the most beautiful knights' castle in Poland. Founded in the 14th century, rebuilt in Renaissance style with beautiful Renaissance loggia and arcades in the courtyard.
Drive back to Kraków along the Eagles' Nests Track - a group of the 14th century strongholds (now in ruins) founded by Kazimierz the Great to protect the Silesian commercial route: Ojców, Rabsztyn, Olsztyn and the most beautiful one in Ogrodzieniec
The castle is part of the Ojcowski National Park (http://www.staff.amu.edu.pl/~zbzw/ph/pnp/ojco.htm).
Am I wrong or am I wrong?
At first I thought it wasn't a match. Then looked further and thought it was. Now I'm not sure since it appears the armor and horses of the challenge are on flat land in from of the "castle". Check out the pictures of the Pieskowa Skala Castle at a message board:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=162039 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=162039)
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Those are nice pictures, thanks makz3d :).
...and YAY Michael! I'm dying to see what izad has :happy:
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Yeah - I can't wait to here what he's been holding back since December, even if it's something tiny, it will be nice to finally know the entire deal with the whole sighting!
Izad is great :jumpy:
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I'm puzzled: If doing the Chopin Chop Sticks is part of a Detour, how can the teams compete if there is only one piano? Or are there several rooms with pianos or several pianos in one room? Or, and this is way out there in outer space somewhere, could this be a Fast Forward? Schmirma try, but give up; the Beauty Queens suceed and go directly to the pit stop :jumpy:
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Or, and this is way out there in outer space somewhere, could this be a Fast Forward? Schmirma try, but give up; the Beauty Queens suceed and go directly to the pit stop
If it is I'd be way happy...BUT, we see Dustin running out of the building holding the Detour task, so I'm guessing they just finished, which is why Kandice is all happy and jumping, maybe they know they're first? I'm guessing C/M just switch detours!
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GMAN, your statement "In the new promo (last night onb CSI) you can see Bill and Joe along with Eric and Dee (and perhaps Uchenna and Joyce as well) all together at Nairobi's Jomo Kenyatta International airport as the KLM plane pulls away and they all are left behind! When is the next plane? is credible."
A later statement was "In the opening of the CSI promo last night, there is a shot of an airport waiting room with a hiigh wall of windows looking out over the tarmac. This is where the Quantas plane is seen in the background and a two engine prop plane taxies across in front of the windows. Maybe just a "stock" shot or maybe not."
Let me assure you that a KLM plane at Nairobi International is routine. However, any shot of Qantas cannot be from anywhere in Africa since Qantas does not have any routes there. It must be from Europe or Asia if it's actually an AR11 location shot and not just stock footage.
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Wow I can't believe that ride on the dhow was 8 hours!
http://www.zanzibar.org/#guide
At this website it says:
"Boats to or from Dar-es-Salaam, Pemba, Tanga, and Mombasa
A recent law passed in Tanzania prohibits tourists from travelling in wooden crafts, which prevents tourists from taking dhows to or from the Tanzanian mainland. This law was passed after a German tourist pitched overboard from a dhow and drowned, ruining the fun for the rest of us who might want to spend eight to twelve hours on a wooden boat without shelter from the sun and without food, water, or plumbing facilities. It is a silly law and has silly exceptions such as sunset cruises around Zanzibar harbor such as is offered by Mtoni Marine.
Although dhows are no longer a possible means of transport for tourists in Tanzanian waters, there are many other boats to choose from. If you have your heart set on a dhow ride from mainland to island, you can legally board a dhow in Mombasa that will take you, most likely, to Pemba. The dhows have no services, toilets, or cafeterias and can be dangerous in high swells. Some people have had lovely dhow rides but if the winds die or are light, your trip can last well over eight hours."
I saw a lot of mention of at least 4 to as much as 9 hrs. This is the only site that had anything about restrictions of use.
makz3d, this is not news as it has been reported weeks ago. Also, it's obvious that the Amazing Race was able to find some way around the restrictions because they did not cross from Mombasa to Pemba(a longer crossing than the one made for AR11); they went from Dar-es-Salaam to Zanzibar Town and this was no sunset cruise around Zanzibar harbor.
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Maybe the QANTAS plane is shows cos they squeeze in an Australian leg after Malaysia! :bunny
*is unrealistically hopeful*
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Now I'm not sure...
I agree that there's problems with the viewpoint, and I'm having problems with the second "tower." But it's the best we've got right now. The task might be on a high point east of the entrance (see the picture here (http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/1163359744048871983ZUBhQb)).
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If this is all leg 7 (because of the TBC) then wouldn't that allow for a 2 hour finale?! :happy:
Leg 7 - Episode 7+8
Leg 8 - Episode 9
Leg 9 - Episode 10
Leg 10 - Episode 11
Leg 11 - Episode 12
Leg 12/13 - Episode 13 ! ! !
Nevermind: apparently Leg 9 is listed as Episode 9. That's retarded! Maybe the descriptions are just wrong. If this is a TBC leg shouldn't it all be considered leg 7 :groan:
(:;) Excuse me Puddin! I do not appreciate that sub title :rotf:
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Now I'm not sure...
I agree that there's problems with the viewpoint, and I'm having problems with the second "tower." But it's the best we've got right now. The task might be on a high point east of the entrance (see the picture here (http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/1163359744048871983ZUBhQb)).
I checked your links and there are some real good pictures . It appears the task is on the same level as the castle. The castle is on a hill. The area level with the side of the castle that has the clock (within walled area) appears to have flowers and shrubs. The area to the right of that is the stone walkway up to that area of the castle. This walkway appears to be an incline. Did you look at all of the Pieskowa Skala pictures at the link you provided?
Here's more pictures from a father/son. They took pictures on the drive up to the castle and then the walk from the parking lot and the rest of the up to the castle. There may be a picture from one of the windows by the clock tower looking out over the landscape (hill). There are separate side of the castle and if I remember right the "out over the hill picture" was from the clock side and not the entrance side. Go to Aug 17th pgs 125-145 http://www.firkowski.com/poland/ (http://www.firkowski.com/poland/)
This castle being on top of a hill just throws me for a loop. :gaah: :dknow
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Slowhatch and all--are y'all really having doubts or just trouble with the viewpoint?
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Maybe the QANTAS plane is shows cos they squeeze in an Australian leg after Malaysia! :bunny
*is unrealistically hopeful*
red sox, nothing would please me more than to see an Australian leg. If you check the SPOILER thread way back, you will find my speculation that there would be an Australian leg to make it a 7 continent race. However, once the sighting for Macau was made the nail was put in that coffin. Simply put, there isn't time to go to Australia between the Dec. 10 sighting at Batu Caves and the Dec. 12 sighting in Hong Kong and there isn't time to go between Hong Kong and Guam because of the Dec. 14 hydrofoil sighting from Macau back to Hong Kong. C'est dommage, as the French would say.
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This is from March 20 posting:
I'm much in favor of two legs in Poland. There are umpteen places to go and do stuff in Poland, especially in Warsaw and Krakow. Not to overlook the possible visits to Czestochowa, Auschwitz, and Wieliczka Salt Mine
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Something tells me that today and tomorrow are going to go by...very...very...slowly :groan:
And although it kills me to say this, but right now we are, or most of us are, saying that D/K come in first in this leg, but do we know for sure that E/D or U/J aren't ahead of D/K?
I wish we had some screen caps of them doing the detours so we can get the time, so now I will just have to pray until I here Phil say "Dustin and Kandice, You're Team Number 1!". :angel:
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Something tells me that today and tomorrow are going to go by...very...very...slowly :groan:
"Likes to play with Barbies" ROFL No you don't :rotf:
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"Likes to play with Barbies" ROFL No you don't
Puddin is so mean (:;)
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Maybe we can change it to wishes he could play with THE Barbies?? :lol:
Cause that is a whole other story!
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or 'wants to play with the barbies' ;D .. or the blondies...BLONDIES!
Barbies does not describe D/K well anyways, you find me a barbie that likes to ski in mud - rock climb - eat fish eyeballs and camel meat !
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or 'wants to play with the barbies' ;D .. or the blondies...BLONDIES!
Barbies does not describe D/K well anyways, you find me a barbie that likes to ski in mud - rock climb - eat fish eyeballs and camel meat !
You'd be shocked if you knew what I put my Barbies through :angel: , lol.
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LOL, now I have twisted thoughts of puddin torturing her barbies in dark basements :snicker:
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:meow: :lol3: puddin is not mean, she's amazing. :bunny :hrt:
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cinniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii :hearts:, I heart you too :luvya:
Michael tell me what you want and I'll change it, lol :lol:
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crap 19 pages of specualtion how the heck can I put this together? :hides
I'll give it a shot but it might take some time :groan:
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bump so i can sort this out errr or try to sort it out :-\
I'm using small pictures heres my photobucket (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/?start=all) and as always your all welcome to it.
"If I Were In Town, I Would Ask For Your Number" -- Teams head to Warsaw, Poland
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/26Mar0034.jpg)
Teams trying to get out of Zanzibar, whatever
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00093-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00443-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00453-26-2007.jpg) Uchenna/Joyce
* A disagreement sparks an intense argument and name calling between Eric & Danielle.
*Teams head to Warsaw, Poland where a disagreement sparks an intense argument and name calling between teammates.
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_26Mar0024.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00443-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00243-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00253-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00273-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00283-26-2007.jpg) Eric/Dee
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00443-26-2007.jpg) Oswald/Danny
*Joe attempts to stop a plane by running out on the tarmac.
*while another racer attempts to stop the plane by running out on the tarmac
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00223-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00323-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00333-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00243-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00363-26-2007.jpg) Bill/Joe
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Krakow Leg 7
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/th_29Mar0000.jpg)
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(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_29Mar0006.jpg)
And now we know the teams go to Auschwitz of the Birkenau Camp
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/th_29Mar0002.jpg) BQ's
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/th_29Mar0003.jpg) U/J
Roadblock
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_PieskowaSkala.jpg)
We now know that the Roadblock is in Pieskowa Skala/part of the Ojcowski National Park. thanks to hakushu
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_26Mar0030.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_26Mar0032.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_26Mar0033.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_29Mar0016.jpg)Mirna: were probably last anyway
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00543-26-2007.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/00543-26-2007.jpg) Joe & Bill ( not the BQ's,lol )
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Warsaw Leg 8
misc~
* Frustration levels hit a high for Charla & Mirna when locals completely ignore them and refuse to help.
*Frustration levels hit a high for one team when locals completely ignore then and refuse to help them.
Chateau d If:
This picture was taken between 10:53 and 11:10 am (assumes December 3,4,5 ?).
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Boingo : Mirna & Schmirna are walking past the Holy Trinity Church and Zacheta Art Gallery in Warsaw.
Tasks/ Detours
Picture perfect or Pitch perfect
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00123-26-2007.jpg) The Cha's ( GUESS only, they are doing Pitch?)
Chateau d If: ( Guess )
This shot was taken here before 10:42 am ( time is iffy? ).
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00373-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00393-26-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00403-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00683-26-2007.jpg) BQ's ( we're guessing the BQ's do Pitch?)
Pitch Perfect
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00193-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00203-26-2007.jpg) (We think C/M switch tasks)
Chateau d If :
This shot was taken here between 1:05 and 1:27 pm (assumes December 3,4,5?)
Picture perfect/ carry your dummy from a shop to a lab and get your dummy X-Ray'ed
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_26Mar0000.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_29Mar0008.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_29Mar0005.jpg)
paddle ride/ lake in Łazienki Park, might be away to the pitstop?
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00483-26-2007.jpg) Cha's
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Pitstop
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00573-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00593-26-2007.jpg) Phil
Chateau d If :
This shot was taken here between 2:15 and 2:45 pm (assumes December 3,4,5 ?)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00413-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00423-26-2007.jpg) Cha's ( maybe the pitstop )
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00603-26-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00613-26-2007.jpg)
Pitstop confessionals / Łazienki Palace / Palace on the water
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/th_index-1.jpg) Joe:"Eric & Danielle were kind of competing in a foot race like olympic atheletes ..and we out ran them"
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_Daniconfessional.jpg)Dani:...Eric & I (?developing) is definitely important because Eric & I are both forming opinions about each other..Eric is very stubborn sometimes but I don't just lay back and let it just let him take charge.
picture credits tarflies
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haha puddin it's OK, I'll stick with this one :rotf: as long as people get that barbies = D/K!
I don't know the answer but maybe you do. IF there is a TBC leg during the first hour, would that make the entire two hour broadcast leg 7? Maybe the listings have it wrong or something.
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crap 19 pages of specualtion how the heck can I put this together? :hides
I'll give it a shot but it might take some time :groan:
I just read that as 19 pages of crappy speculation and was coming out to object! :lol:
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Just a couple more pics for the "where are the horses?" debate...
I think they are out in my little red box somewhere, and i think that your second tower, Slowhatch, might just be the angle of the buildings in a shadow....
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Just for fun--and to add to our antique clock collection--
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No wonder I could not tell what time that clock said when the horse was knocking over Charla!
Those are tiny hands. (:;)
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I like the little zodiac signs!
Now if I take the horizontal angle, and cosine it with the underboob shadow of Mirna, and then biplane it with the glare from Charla's helmet, what will I have?
Peach on the rocks! :lol: :lol3: :lol:
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mmmm a Peach on the rocks sounds good but Sex on the Beach sounds better :keeta:
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24 more hours! :) :bunny
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:bunny Fair warning..Rob won't be around tomorrow to get the preview for us so maybe someone can help out? My crappy cable just doesn't make the cut.
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:bunny (i love that bunny LOL) but I don't know how to, and I'm sure I'm missing cables!
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Anybody bored?
Want to see the upside of living in the South?
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The down side?
My car --after being outside overnight....
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It's still cold here in toronto!
WTF! I want to move to California :(
I was just watching TAR9 finale!
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Lovely flowers, peach. And are you sure that the gunk on your windshield is just pollen? ;D
Someone mentioned somewhere in this thread (20 pages before the show, how awesome is that!) that the teams could take a train ride from Krakow to Warsaw. From here (http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Europe/Poland/Wojewodztwo_Malopolskie/Krakow-490219/Transportation-Krakow-Train-BR-1.html):
I arrived in Krakow by IC train from Warsaw. The almost 300 km trip took less than 3 hours and was 7350 Zloty (2004).
I'm just comparing it to the first TBC in TAR 6, where Lori/Bolo got left by a train in Eger. From here (http://www.tompgalvin.com/places/hu/eger.htm):
Eger is about a 90-minute train ride east of Budapest...
So is it possible that the TBC occurs due to another team being left by a train in Krakow, because all teams were instructed to go to Warsaw by train?
Or maybe teams were not restricted on their means of transportation to Warsaw. Some teams could've gotten a flight, and then some teams took the train. Crazy idea, but could this be the Detour for this leg? Flight It or Freight It? :rotf:
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Very pretty peach, I take it you don't have a Deer problem in Georgia :lol: :tup:. Us mountain people still have mounds of snow that refuse to melt..what ever traces of grass thats showing the Deer are eating :wall:
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Heee...I'm a city girl---but I do have a raccoon in the back jungle and a Hootie-Owl in the hollow tree---but sadly, no deer!
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I live in the city too Peach!
LOL, it's so uncommon for deer to be walking around her...I think people would actually be scared if that happened.
*is amazed at how off-topic we've gone*
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I just saw a picture in picture and all that was new is that Uchenna & Joyce were clearly at the Pitstop in the daylight and very happy!!
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Puddin - where was the picture?!
Yes :bunny that makes me think even more the BQs are ahead since we see the chas and U/J at the pit stop in daylight...unless U/J get the fast forward? But I doubt it since they are so behind Malaysia.
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Let me tell you i've been watching CBS ALL DAY waiting for that picture in picture and was recording up untill about 7:30. Then at 10:10 when I was on the phone OOPS there it was :groan:! But all I saw new was U/J and she had her hand up to her chest like she was relieved and happy and it was light like when the Cha's were arriving so clearly U/J are not eliminated EP7 :neener:
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haha - maybe she thought she was last and is relieved that Phil said they were team number 3, after BQ and Chas of course.
I don't know what a picture is but I'm watching CBS now too! Basketball is on!
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The little tiny ads they run in the left hand corner of the screen :lol: ..or as I call them pic in pics. Hopefully they run it again tomorrow but I like to watch Nascar so we'll see :bunny
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Do we have real evidence that the BQ's are ahead of the Cha's??
Or is it just Michael's dreams?? :angel:
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We just have the time stamp of the BQs arriving or leaving the detour BEFORE 10:40 AM, and a shot of the Chas running to the pitstop at around 2PM, and we see C/M doing a detour at around 1 35 PM so we just assume that the BQs are Ahead, of course, U/J and E/D CAN be infront.
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I'm going with the assumption that Eric/Dee are stuck with the Guidos in Nairobi and arrive together because there is panic on their faces in the car scenes probably traveling through Krakow. Even though Chateau was iffy on the BQ's/Detour time I have a feeling that Pitch/Piano is perfect for ...
Beauty Queens.. so i'll stick with them coming in first followed by
Chas
U/J ( new evidence they arrive in the daylight )
Charla/Mirna
Eric/Dee
Guidos :waves:
of course I'm hoping that I'm wrong and Eric/Dee place better than 5th.
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I have a feeling that Pitch/Piano is perfect for ...Beauty Queens..
And why do you say that Puddin?
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Another invaluable element in Dustin-Leigh’s character was forged through her love for music. In fact, an accomplished pianist, guitarist and mandolin player, she chose to play her fiddle as part of the Miss California competition. “My whole family pursued music,” she says. “We formed the Konzelman Family Band when I was growing up.”
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I don't know? experience :lol:? You know then better than I do Michael..why don't you do some research on what their talents are?
How to Win a Beauty Pageant - ... Examples are playing piano or violin, jazz, tap, or ballet dancing, ...
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Dustin played a chello....I think!
Whatever, it's not like I research them...I just think they're hot and they did so well on TAR10! :angel: they are greatest F/F team ever...them and the bowling moms! I would love for the bowling moms to just show up at the F3 and replace C/M!
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^^^^Look up, Michael! :lol:
And I adore the Bowling Mom's!
Jeez--we need just one more preview! I think we got shortchanged! 2 episodes=4 previews, right? :-\
:hoppy Is this the ice skating bunny? :lol:
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haha! yes! she's a pianist! :hoppy
THEY'LL DO AWESOME AT THAT DETOUR!
the konzlemen family band is so nerdy, i listened to it before!
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Another invaluable element in Dustin-Leigh’s character was forged through her love for music. In fact, an accomplished pianist, guitarist and mandolin player, she chose to play her fiddle as part of the Miss California competition. “My whole family pursued music,” she says. “We formed the Konzelman Family Band when I was growing up.”
There you go!! Thanks peach :bunny
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Heee...guess she didn't win the million:
Got this when I Googled The Konzelman Family Band
This Account Has Been Suspended
Please contact the billing/support department as soon as possible
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haha, even if she did, the cheque would be coming on May 7th :P
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hahaha
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=80062161
such nerds, I love Dustin!
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If it is true that Dustin is an accomplished pianist, and the task at the piano-pitch is to find the one key that is out of tune, she would have no trouble finding the out of key key by just playing each of the 88 in order. The out of tune key would leap out at her like a duck out of water.
Speaking of deer, we have them coming out of the gazoo. They are everywhere and multiply like rabbits. They have no fear and come right up the house or miander right down the middle of the road. Hit one and buy a new car.
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If it is true that Dustin is an accomplished pianist, and the task at the piano-pitch is to find the one key that is out of tune, she would have no trouble finding the out of key key by just playing each of the 88 in order. The out of tune key would leap out at her like a duck out of water.
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hahaha
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=80062161
such nerds, I love Dustin!
OMG they are nerds :lol3:!! Wish I could remember my myspace password the addy I used (:;)
If it is true that Dustin is an accomplished pianist, and the task at the piano-pitch is to find the one key that is out of tune, she would have no trouble finding the out of key key by just playing each of the 88 in order. The out of tune key would leap out at her like a duck out of water.
Speaking of deer, we have them coming out of the gazoo. They are everywhere and multiply like rabbits. They have no fear and come right up the house or miander right down the middle of the road. Hit one and buy a new car.
I feed my deer everyday Gman..they are like my pets, a few have names and when that back door opens the come running to mommy me ;D and eat right out of my hands :bunny
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Puddin - I added you on myspace a couple of days ago! This is the link if that helps : http://www.myspace.com/puddinrff
haha, nerdy families are funny
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The problem is Michael I can't get in :lol3: ..I had some problems so made up a fake Gmail addy and have no idea what the fake one was because I wiped my PC clean back in Febuary and didn't save the notepad ...how stupid was that?
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Well, who ever has a myspace here should add me - since I like to whore my pretty face: http://www.myspace.com/miked19 !
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I added you Michael :bunny
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OH!! now we know why you are such the Babe magnet Michael :kissy:
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hahaha puddin :wohoo: :rotf:
thanks red_sox, i'll accept :bunny
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:rotf:
I HATE YOU ALL!
....APRIL FOOLS!
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I april fooled my dad today haha (we're like a day ahead of you..)
He is growing a watermelon in our bac-yard.. he loves it and like takes a photo of it every day to watch it grow. and i told him a worm had eaten a massive hole into it.. you shoulda seen his face :rotf: :lol3:
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I just fell for the stupidest April Fools joke regarding the 7th Harry Potter book, LOL i'm such a nerd!
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I have the shot of Ucheena & Joyce!! Hang on..........brb :yess:
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YES :yess:
hopefully it doesn't get rid of the chance of D/K getting eliminated
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Very sunny.........
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omg :'(
well actually, that could be just before the sun is setting, it kind of looks like that!...damn now I'm worried!
Well, actually, Joyce reacted pretty amazingly when she came in 2nd, so I'm not THAT worried
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aww Charla's head must hurt from the fall
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No audio..from my crappy cable ..
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OK, with the chas running you can kind of see the sky and it looks just about the same as the sky from U/J, so hopefully the BQs are just earlier!
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omg :'(
well actually, that could be just before the sun is setting, it kind of looks like that!...damn now I'm worried!
Well, actually, Joyce reacted pretty amazingly when she came in 2nd, so I'm not THAT worried
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v365/michael_dimech15/ScaryJoyce.gif)
:lol3: ..that still cracks me up! Be careful, my BF loves Joyce's tata's and watch's Star Trek just so he could drool over them :lol:
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They are quite big aren't they? I noticed it in the Mozambique leg!
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oh wow! Now I am really intriqued on how this Poland leg is going to go. Have we ever had so many shots of racers at the mat before?
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So yeah - the Chas and U/J the sun appears to be mid-afternoon and in the BQs leaving the detour or arriving at the detour it appears to be early morning....I STILL HAVE HOPE!
It actually depends on if D/K are LEAVING or ARRIVING at the detour. OR if they can finish it fast enough! Kandice does look quite happy though.
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I'm no expert but the Phil/Greeter sky looks the same when U/J arrive. Ucheena is doing the tell me the news look (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/millan/allears.gif)
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hmm...yes, but don't they show phil usually everytime before a team runs to a pit stop.. I know they did in a lot of the episodes this season because I have them on my computer!
Of course, for all we know D/K, the Chas, U/J all arrive around the same time!
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Maybe Joyce & Uchenna know something about the piano too (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/millan/organisten.gif) ?
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No. they don't. I'm sorry. D/K are first this leg. SAY NO MORE!
and I really don't think they'd show the first place team at the pit stop!
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They are quite big aren't they? I noticed it in the Mozambique leg!
:naughty: and I have a strong feeling U/J are first..sorry Michael. Will wait and see if out resident shadow expert can pick anything up :popcorn:
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Well, you can't really judge if they are first or not because we haven't seen a shot of D/K near the pit stop yet! But I'm getting a bad feeling now too! :groan: It's ok, I will still have hope. U/J have always been the "big reactions for top three finishes" type of people!
But seriously, would they really show the first place team? Or would they want people like us to BELIEVE that this is the first place team!!!!
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I think U/J are first.. which makes the order of arrival something like this:
1. Uchenna and Joyce
2. Dustin and Kandice/Oswald and Danny
3. Oswald and Danny/Dustin and Kandice
4. Charla and Mirna
5. Eric and Danielle
6. Joe and Bill
But are we even sure that the pitt-stop that has been shown, is the second of the two pitt-stops? It could be the first non-elim one.. Because if it is the second one, and if Uchenna and Joyce do come in first.. that makes it hard to imagine how they could fall so far behind by the Malaysian leg..
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Well, I think they just get a major flight delay on the way to Malaysia, they were probably trying to take a risk since they were tying to get ahead of Dustin and Kandice who beat them to the pit stop in the Poland leg! Tsk tsk Uchenna and Joyce, not smart, not smart at all!
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Actually, the Phil/Pitstop shot HAS to be from the Chas because the sun is EXACTLY in the same location...Look at the white building in the back...the sun is shining directly on it, and it's not in the U/J shot!
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So I guess Chas, BQs, U/J, and E/D(probably not though) all have a shot of coming in first !!
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Well, I think they just get a major flight delay on the way to Malaysia, they were probably trying to take a risk since they were tying to get ahead of Dustin and Kandice who beat them to the pit stop in the Poland leg! Tsk tsk Uchenna and Joyce, not smart, not smart at all!
Serves them right :lol:
well G'nite :waves:
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Guys.. i got it!
First pitt-stop, which is the one we are all studying, goes something like this:
1st. Uchenna and Joyce
2nd. Danny and Oswald
3rd. Dustin and Kandice
4th. Eric and Danielle
5th. Joe and Bill
6th. Charla and Mirna (Phil: this is a non-elim leg / Mirna: Are you kidding me?)
Then in the second leg, Charla and Mirna get to the head of the pack again, Uchenna and Joyce fall behind with the Guidos, and Guido gets eliminated, Uchenna and Joyce miss the first couple of flights to Malaysia and fall far far behind :(
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Well, we know this is the second pit stop because we have identified this as a place in Warsaw Poland, and we know C/M are saying "are you kidding me" at the pit stop in Warsaw because you can see the same greater beside Phil, and Charla is wearing different clothes then she was wearing at the Knight roadblock, which takes place somewhere else in Poland.
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How do we know that Warsaw isn't the first destination in Poland?
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Comcast Cable just posted the following news bulletin this morning:
CBS TO TELECAST ONLY ONE EPISODE OF THE AMAZING RACE: ALL STARS TONIGHT
New York, New York. CBS Television announced early this morning that due to changes in current events and difficulties in re-editing Episode Eight, The Amazing Race: All Stars will only telecast Episode Seven tonight at 8:00ET/PT. Cold Case and Without A Trace will be seen at their normal times.
Source
http://www.comcast.net/home.html
I wonder wha' happin
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You better be April Foolin' us!
Regarding U/J: we don't see them doing anything anywhere, right? That leaves the question of the FF open too....Need me some more Chateautime!
And I can't remember if we said this but anyway:
AMAZING RACE ALL STARS CASTOFFS: The race heats up! Monday morning, we will talk to the latest Amazing Race team to be voted off the All Stars season. We'll have a recap of Sunday's episode and talk to the castoffs about what really went wrong.
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You better be April Foolin' us!
Regarding U/J: we don't see them doing anything anywhere, right? That leaves the question of the FF open too....Need me some more Chateautime!
And I can't remember if we said this but anyway:
AMAZING RACE ALL STARS CASTOFFS: The race heats up! Monday morning, we will talk to the latest Amazing Race team to be voted off the All Stars season. We'll have a recap of Sunday's episode and talk to the castoffs about what really went wrong.
Please note that they say "We'll have a recap of Sunday's episode..."
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that sucks!
wtf is with the 1 hour episode!
Damn - you had me! haha, even my TV schedule was tricking me, it was set to April 15th and only showed a one hour episode!
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Well there might be a FF which could explain a lot, but how do we know E/D don't go for it. We don't see them anywhere in Warsaw either. For now, I'll stick with the BQs coming in first, even though I have a nasty feeling that they don't!
I mean - U/J always have big reactions!
(http://www.tarflies.com/gallery2/d/75633-1/QDVD_1390.jpg)
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How do we know that Warsaw isn't the first destination in Poland?
HaHa Michael :lol: ..and redsox read the thread :groan: all evidence points to Krakow Leg7, Warsaw Leg8
bump so i can sort this out errr or try to sort it out :-\
I'm using small pictures heres my photobucket (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/?start=all) and as always your all welcome to it.
"If I Were In Town, I Would Ask For Your Number" -- Teams head to Warsaw, Poland
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/26Mar0034.jpg)
Teams trying to get out of Zanzibar, whatever
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00093-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00443-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00453-26-2007.jpg) Uchenna/Joyce
* A disagreement sparks an intense argument and name calling between Eric & Danielle.
*Teams head to Warsaw, Poland where a disagreement sparks an intense argument and name calling between teammates.
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_26Mar0024.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00443-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00243-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00253-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00273-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00283-26-2007.jpg) Eric/Dee
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00443-26-2007.jpg) Oswald/Danny
*Joe attempts to stop a plane by running out on the tarmac.
*while another racer attempts to stop the plane by running out on the tarmac
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00223-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00323-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00333-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00243-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00363-26-2007.jpg) Bill/Joe
:bar:
Krakow Leg 7
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/th_29Mar0000.jpg)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/th_29Mar0001.jpg)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_29Mar0006.jpg)
And now we know the teams go to Auschwitz of the Birkenau Camp
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/th_29Mar0002.jpg) BQ's
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/th_29Mar0003.jpg) U/J
Roadblock
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_PieskowaSkala.jpg)
We now know that the Roadblock is in Pieskowa Skala/part of the Ojcowski National Park. thanks to hakushu
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_26Mar0030.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_26Mar0032.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_26Mar0033.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_29Mar0016.jpg)Mirna: were probably last anyway
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00543-26-2007.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/00543-26-2007.jpg) Joe & Bill ( not the BQ's,lol )
:bar:
Warsaw Leg 8
misc~
* Frustration levels hit a high for Charla & Mirna when locals completely ignore them and refuse to help.
*Frustration levels hit a high for one team when locals completely ignore then and refuse to help them.
Chateau d If:
This picture was taken between 10:53 and 11:10 am (assumes December 3,4,5 ?).
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00143-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00173-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00503-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00523-26-2007.jpg)
Boingo : Mirna & Schmirna are walking past the Holy Trinity Church and Zacheta Art Gallery in Warsaw.
Tasks/ Detours
Picture perfect or Pitch perfect
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00123-26-2007.jpg) The Cha's ( GUESS only, they are doing Pitch?)
Chateau d If: ( Guess )
This shot was taken here before 10:42 am ( time is iffy? ).
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00373-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00393-26-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00403-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00683-26-2007.jpg) BQ's ( we're guessing the BQ's do Pitch?)
Pitch Perfect
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00193-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00203-26-2007.jpg) (We think C/M switch tasks)
Chateau d If :
This shot was taken here between 1:05 and 1:27 pm (assumes December 3,4,5?)
Picture perfect/ carry your dummy from a shop to a lab and get your dummy X-Ray'ed
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_26Mar0000.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_29Mar0008.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_29Mar0005.jpg)
paddle ride/ lake in Łazienki Park, might be away to the pitstop?
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00483-26-2007.jpg) Cha's
:bar:
Pitstop
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00573-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00593-26-2007.jpg) Phil
(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2963/01apr0004rk6.th.jpg) (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01apr0004rk6.jpg)
Chateau d If :
This shot was taken here between 2:15 and 2:45 pm (assumes December 3,4,5 ?)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00413-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00423-26-2007.jpg) Cha's
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00603-26-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00613-26-2007.jpg)
Pitstop confessionals / Łazienki Palace / Palace on the water
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/th_index-1.jpg) Joe:"Eric & Danielle were kind of competing in a foot race like olympic atheletes ..and we out ran them"
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_Daniconfessional.jpg)Dani:...Eric & I (?developing) is definitely important because Eric & I are both forming opinions about each other..Eric is very stubborn sometimes but I don't just lay back and let it just let him take charge.
picture credits tarflies
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Puddin - if you think the lighting is the same in the Chas and U/J photo, then shouldn't you still think that the BQs come in first, since you thought they came in first when we only had the Chas photo..hmmm?
I just realized, we COULD have an intersection in leg 7, because we haven't seen any of the detours yet, only the roadblock! There could also be a yield in this episode but I doubt it, last season it didn't show up until leg 11.
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Well, you can't really judge if they are first or not because we haven't seen a shot of D/K near the pit stop yet! But I'm getting a bad feeling now too! :groan: It's ok, I will still have hope. U/J have always been the "big reactions for top three finishes" type of people!
But seriously, would they really show the first place team? Or would they want people like us to BELIEVE that this is the first place team!!!!
Don't forget there is a Roadblock we are missing in Warsaw and even though the daylight might show the BQ's are either on their way to or have just finished the Detour..whatever the case maybe. They might still have to perform the Roadblock and other teams could pass them unless of course the Roadblock is before the Detour.
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Regarding U/J: we don't see them doing anything anywhere, right? That leaves the question of the FF open too....Need me some more Chateautime!
Theres always that chance too..we've been waiting for that darn Fast Forward to show up.
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My bet is it's before since we see C/M doing the road block at around 1 35PM and in every episode this season it's been roadblock -> Detour ... i think
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I'm talking about the Warsaw Roadblock Michael...where do we see Charla/ Mirna doing it? You only see them working together at the Detours. And the we see Charla in Krakow doing the Knight/Roadblock.
eta: The Roadblock does not always come before the Detour.
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oops - i meant we see them doing the DETOUR at around 1 35PM
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oops - i meant we see them doing the DETOUR at around 1 35PM
Which leaves a whole morning or afternoon to do other tasks.
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I don't know then! We'll know tonight :bunny !
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Warsaw Roadblock = Row, row your boat, meerily down the lake
PS: Did I get you, Puddin? Or are you too smart to fall for stuff like that?.
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gman! damn you (:;) haha, that makes 4 internet april fools jokes that I've fallen for since last night at 12!
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I think the Uchenna & Joyce finish is after the Chas. I am going by the sunlight on the grass left of the Chas as they run in. In the U&J shot of the same area (use the tree branch to confirm) you can see that the sunshine is only on the tree tops and not on the grass. That is what happens as the sun gets right down to the horizon.
So U&J's checkin time will be about 3:25 pm.
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So I was right in saying the U/J check in just before sun set?! yay! puddin, I think you need to change your guesses again!
Thanks Chateau!
Maybe the Chas come first, U/J second, BQs third? I hope not :angel:
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OMG I found a shot of the BQ's @ the pitstop && the sun's just setting :'(
APRIL FOOLS!!!! LOL I ttly agree w/ michael, BQ's r the BEST female team EVER!!!
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I think the Uchenna & Joyce finish is after the Chas. I am going by the sunlight on the grass left of the Chas as they run in. In the U&J shot of the same area (use the tree branch to confirm) you can see that the sunshine is only on the tree tops and not on the grass. That is what happens as the sun gets right down to the horizon.
So U&J's checkin time will be about 3:25 pm.
Thanks Chateau :hearts: ..
And NO Gman I didn't fall for you April Fools but wonder if Chateau is fooling me :lol:?
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:rotf: i'm excited
I see you've changed your guess on order of arrival again puddin! :hoppy
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My bet is it's before since we see C/M doing the road block at around 1 35PM and in every episode this season it's been roadblock -> Detour ... i think
Nope.
Out of the 5 episodes with Roadblocks and detours so far this season that we have seen (the first didn't have a detour or at least one seen).
2cd episode Roadblock is first/detour 2cd
3rd episode Roadblock first/detour second
4th episode Detour, then roadblock
5th episode roadblock, then detour
6th episode Detour, then roadblock.
So its so far been a 3 episode with a Roadblock first and 2 with a detour first. Nearly a 50/50 split for the season to date.
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:rotf: i'm excited
I see you've changed your guess on order of arrival again puddin! :hoppy
I'll be cheering for the BQ's with you on thsi one Michael :yess:
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YAY :yess:
you rock Puddin!
and hopefully tonight Izad will give us some more good news on the Malaysian leg!
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:popcorn: I wonder who gets the rusty nail stuck in their :pedaler: ? :lol:
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Well - if Dustin brought along the same driving skills that she had last time I wouldn't be surprised if it was her LOL
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Hi guys, I'm new
anyways what makes you guys so sure that the Warsaw pitstop is the second one, we haven't seen the Krakow pitstop(if there is one) maybe thats the real pitstop!
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:welcome: duchess
Hi guys, I'm new
anyways what makes you guys so sure that the Warsaw pitstop is the second one, we haven't seen the Krakow pitstop(if there is one) maybe thats the real pitstop!
Who wants a go at this question again? :lol:
In Warsaw we know where the pitstop is, thanks to the Amazing Detectives hard work, its at Lazienki Park . See where Danielle & the Guidos are having their confessionals? its at Lazienki Palace, we have evidence that this is in the Palace. Now if Krakow was the last Pitstop and Warsaw was the NonElim or TBC whatever the teams would not have time to sit and talk in Warsaw..they would still be racing.
:bar:
Pitstop
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00573-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00593-26-2007.jpg) Phil
(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2963/01apr0004rk6.th.jpg) (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01apr0004rk6.jpg)
Chateau d If :
This shot was taken here between 2:15 and 2:45 pm (assumes December 3,4,5 ?)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00413-26-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00423-26-2007.jpg) Cha's
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00603-26-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_00613-26-2007.jpg)
Pitstop confessionals / Łazienki Palace / Palace on the water
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/th_index-1.jpg) Joe:"Eric & Danielle were kind of competing in a foot race like olympic atheletes ..and we out ran them"
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP7/th_Daniconfessional.jpg)Dani:...Eric & I (?developing) is definitely important because Eric & I are both forming opinions about each other..Eric is very stubborn sometimes but I don't just lay back and let it just let him take charge.
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2 hours and 40 minutes :yess:
so no delay on CBS tonight right?! :bunny
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I am so mad!!! (:;) Finally Sunday and my crappy cable does not have CBS today. I cannot believe, I am going to miss 2 episodes. HOpefully someone will post the episodes in YouTube and can catch them later. I cannot believe it.
Hope them solve their problem and put it before showtime.
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Do you have a UHF antenna charlierose? :'(
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Unfortunetly I live outside the US and Canada and cannot watch CBS, unless it by cable. I just called them and they told me they are trying to solve the problem before tonight.
I hope so, because if not I am going to miss 2 whole episodes. :'( :'( :'(
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good luck with the TV problems :jam:
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:rotf: i'm excited
I see you've changed your guess on order of arrival again puddin! :hoppy
I'll be cheering for the BQ's with you on thsi one Michael :yess:
heckk yess!!!
&& puddin where the hell do u get all the screencaps?????? Lke the one w/ U/J @ the pistop in daylight???
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U/J came from the tv.
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1 HOUR :yess:
I'm also excited to see the preview for the Malaysian leg! we might be able to see if C/M lose their lead just from the preview!
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I'm also excited to see the preview for the Malaysian leg!
Me too. I'm not sure what I am more excited about, watching this 2 hour episode to see how it all plays out or to see what is in store for Malaysia.
Enjoy the show! I'll be signing off here until it finishes airing here on the west coast.
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Yeah, it'll start in fifteen minutes for me!
I'M SO EXCITED! :happy:
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No fools April, but, guys, I think we are in pretty good shape with the itinerary for tonights double header:
Zanzibar to
Dar es Salaam to
Nairobi to
Amsterdam to
Krakow (via Warsaw?) to
sites around town to
Wieliczka Salt Mines to
Oswiecim-Berkinau to
Pieskowa Skala TBC TO
Czestochowa to
Warsaw (via train) to
Heros of the Polish Uprising Monument to (Path of Rememberance) to
Monument to the Ghetto Heros to
Czapski Palace to
University of Warsaw to
Jan III Sobieski Monument (Lazienki Park)
Palace on the Water
Pit Stop on Path towards the White House
Elimination (Bill and Joe)
So much for dreaming, in 15 minutes we face the cold, hard truth!
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Had to be a 36 hour pit stop with the departure time to allow Eric & Danielle to spend time with CHarla & Mirna and for them to leave in teh morning 12 hours after the arrival times.
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Well we tried, lol. :jam:
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INTERSECTIONS ARE NO GOOD FOR D/K (:;)
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INTERSECTIONS ARE NO GOOD FOR D/K (:;)
:'( :'( thats twice now :( :'(
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It's alright, they still kicked ass in both legs - because they came in first amidst the people who DIDN'T take the fast forward, so they still KIND of came in first in this leg.
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boy - we were wrong LOL
But can I say - I was RIGHT about U/J odd facial expressions with mediocre placings!
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.I'm sorry I am completely losing it with The Amazing RACE. This is not a race, it is a contrived exercise to keep everyone together. Like asking a sprinter to run the 100 meters with a ball and chain around the ankle.
Poor Dustin and Kandice: did well in Warsaw and built up a 19 hour lead over Jim and Bill. BUT they had to wait 14 hours for the first bus and allowed two other teams to catch up and lost the 3:30 lead they had over Uchenna and Joyce. Auschwitz-Birkenau is only 150 miles southeast of Warsaw. But they had to wait 14 hours. I wonder if the rules specifically said they HAD to take the charter bus? Regularly scheduled buses are readily available and the trip is not expensive and would only take abouit 4 hours at the most to get there (even if they had to go through Krakow first then add another hour). So they could have reached there early in the morning still hours ahead. But no, TPTB made them wait.
Then they lucked out at the Intersection (don't know why TPTB would hire taxi drivers from Krakow who did not know the way to the theatre) bad luck with the wrong taxi driver. Then they had to wait another four hours so they eventually lost all of their 19 hour lead over Bill and Joe.
In Ep 7 TPTB edited out the ROADBLOCK which I believe from the evidence shown was to be ROW, ROW YOUR BOAT, MERRILY, MERRILY DOWN THE LAKE FROM THE AGRYKOLA BRIDGE TO THE PALACE ON THE WATER. Actually some very sloppy editing. First you see Kandice and Dustin arriving at the Jan III Sobieski statue on the bridge but when they walk to the clue box there is a bad cut and we see Kandice now with a life vest on, reading the clue while a man holds the bow of the rowboat she most likely had to row the 400 yards from the Agrykola Bridge to the Palace on the Water. The BQ's are now on the steps leading up to the Palace.
We have similar bad cuts with Danny and Oswald. Danny with the hat at one point holds a red clue envelope and wears a tan life vest as they read the clue at the box on the steps of the Palace with a rowboat in the BG. And, if fact, we had a preview shot of Danny rowing as he reached the Palace on the Water. Same with Joyce and Uchenna. And again when Charla and Mirna arrive at the bridge it is now dark and you can see the Palace on the Water lit up behind them, but as they turn they are now actually on the steps of the palace (how did they get there?)
Not a very satisfying ep 7. Funny we had it pretty much but had Warsaw after Krakow and did not anticipate a N EL with the greeter there with Phil. We had DETOUR down to the middle C (Dustin spotted the out of tune Middle C without any difficulty which helped them build up a big lead or was it Kandice)
One thing to have "hours of operation" etc and other bunch points but when it is contrived to get the teams back together, I lost.
I'm sorry, but since we know the boot order, and the lack of a true Race Around the World I've really lost interest in watching much more of this nonsense.
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Common, it's not that bad! AND the order of the final 3 can still always be wrong, you never know!
I agree with you though, poor Dustin and Kandice!
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The editing and the bunching were so frustrating for us (and the BQ's I'm sure!) but I have to say that the comedy (unintentional mostly) in leg 2 will keep me enthralled!
What frustrates me is that I expected more from All Stars--not just more sleeplessness and travel delays but more and better tasks--more excitement! Somehow piano tuning just isn't the same visual as bungee cord jumping over Victoria Falls. I guess they thought the teams had overcome their fears on their original races, but I still think that they have missed a huge marketing tool to pull in millions of new viewers with the most exciting season yet--and this one, while entertaining in its own right, just doesn't do it task wise for me. I bet Mary is sitting at home going, damn--I could have done that!
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Damn, I finally got to watch the first part and what really surprises me is the differnt amount of time it took the teams to complete the days task once in Poland.
It took D & K just 1 hour 41 minutes (they rocked this leg, really rocked it)
Next was Eric & Danielle with a rough estimate (since I don't have a exact time of arrival of nearly 3 hours)
Uchenna & Joyce 3 hours 24 minutes
Oswald & Danny 3 hours and 44 minutes
Joe & Bill close to 4 hours and 40 minutes.
and Charla & Mirna with a unbeliavable 8 hours and 12 minutes. Thats just a tremendous amount of time for this leg.
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How do we know that Warsaw isn't the first destination in Poland?
YAY I was right ;D :bunny
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I was somewhat surprised by KILIMANJARO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT appearing on the show and with some prominence. It does not show up in any of the best route connection information that I developed. However, it is there as GOOGLE EARTH clearly shows it about 25 miles southeast of downtwon Arusha. The Arusha airport is much smaller and is perhaps 10 miles west of downtown Arusha. KILIMANJARO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT (JRO) opened at the end of the 20th century.
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I'm wondering if anyone got a screencap of Danny and Oswald kissing Phil at the pitstop. That was too cute! :lol:
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It took D & K just 1 hour 41 minutes (they rocked this leg, really rocked it)
And then got royally screwed by TPTB who made them wait 14 hours until the first charter bus left at 1:00PM. Wonder why, no I know why, TPTB held up the first bus departure until 1:00PM instead of a more normal departure of 7:00AM. After a four hour drive this would have put the teams into Auschwitz at around 11:00AM instead of after sunset. Then they could have used better all the daylight footage they obviously had shot in preperation for this visit. Of course, if the second bus left four hours later (11:00AM) only C/M would have been on that one: then TPTB would have to charter another bus which would leave another four hours (3:00PM) later which would include E/D and then still another bus at 7:00PM for tailendersanJ/B who didn't leave the pitstop until 3:32PM.
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I'm wondering if anyone got a screencap of Danny and Oswald kissing Phil at the pitstop. That was too cute! :lol:
Welcome! pikachuFL! :waves:
Here you go! (Thanks to TARflies!)
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Thanks, peach! I guess I got my teams mixed up. I only started watching TAR from the time Colin & Christie were on (season 5, I think???) so I'm not real good at remembering who's who from earlier seasons.
BTW, I've been lurking at this board for several seasons of TAR now. I could swear I posted once or twice before but maybe not.
Do you have to have a certain number of posts before you can send a pm? I tried to send a pm to puddin recently and it wouldn't go through. Just curious.
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Welcome pikachuFL :hithere:. Acutually I don't know the pm rules :-[? but you can email me? puddin.pies@gmail.com < don't laugh :lol:
Congrats on your 1000 post peach :dancer: :pickle: :rat?: :congrats:
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Congrats Peach! I'm catching up! :knuckles:
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Thanks puddin and Michael!
I should be at 2000 in another day or so..... ;)
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It took D & K just 1 hour 41 minutes (they rocked this leg, really rocked it)
And then got royally screwed by TPTB who made them wait 14 hours until the first charter bus left at 1:00PM. Wonder why, no I know why, TPTB held up the first bus departure until 1:00PM instead of a more normal departure of 7:00AM. After a four hour drive this would have put the teams into Auschwitz at around 11:00AM instead of after sunset. Then they could have used better all the daylight footage they obviously had shot in preperation for this visit. Of course, if the second bus left four hours later (11:00AM) only C/M would have been on that one: then TPTB would have to charter another bus which would leave another four hours (3:00PM) later which would include E/D and then still another bus at 7:00PM for tailendersanJ/B who didn't leave the pitstop until 3:32PM.
GMAN, my hypothesis for why is that there are a lot of tourists in the areas that the Amazing Race wanted to use for fliming during daily open hours. To avoid that and preserve the dignity of the brief interlude at Auschwitz/Birkenau, they scheduled the visit for 5pm and later. The use of the charter bus guaranteed that the first 3 teams would not arrive before 5pm. I actually don't believe that it was a deliberate attempt to minimize the time gaps between teams.
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some pictures
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Though I thought the bunching with the charters was a bit hairy, I "think" ??? the reason behind it was because they wanted them to arrive at night as to not disrupt the normal hours of opperation/other tourists. They probably didn't want the other daytime tourists to be distracted at such a sacred sight......just a thought :dknow
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It took D & K just 1 hour 41 minutes (they rocked this leg, really rocked it)
And then got royally screwed by TPTB who made them wait 14 hours until the first charter bus left at 1:00PM. Wonder why, no I know why, TPTB held up the first bus departure until 1:00PM instead of a more normal departure of 7:00AM. After a four hour drive this would have put the teams into Auschwitz at around 11:00AM instead of after sunset. Then they could have used better all the daylight footage they obviously had shot in preperation for this visit. Of course, if the second bus left four hours later (11:00AM) only C/M would have been on that one: then TPTB would have to charter another bus which would leave another four hours (3:00PM) later which would include E/D and then still another bus at 7:00PM for tailendersanJ/B who didn't leave the pitstop until 3:32PM.
GMAN, my hypothesis for why is that there are a lot of tourists in the areas that the Amazing Race wanted to use for fliming during daily open hours. To avoid that and preserve the dignity of the brief interlude at Auschwitz/Birkenau, they scheduled the visit for 5pm and later. The use of the charter bus guaranteed that the first 3 teams would not arrive before 5pm. I actually don't believe that it was a deliberate attempt to minimize the time gaps between teams.
Sorry, but I think it was a deliberate attempt to "bunch up" the teams. As it was the BQ's in effect had a 26 hour pit stop! (a 12 hour mandatory rest period and then waiting 14 hours for the bus.) If TPTB wanted to delay arrival at Auschwitz (a good idea) why not have a 24 hour pit stop? Trouble there is that while the first two teams could be together on the first bus leaving at say 2:00PM, and two teams leaving at 6:00PM, the final two teams if they travelled together would not leave until 10:00PM. Or, they could have early departures and gone to Krakow first to do the tasks there and then on to Auschwitz and then the castle. No, it was an attemapt to bunch up so the last place teams would not fall that far behind.
Note to future racers: when having the choice stay away from any kind of food challenge (ask Rob about that) in every case it has been a disaster. Wlhy not go on to the bakery, you didn't have to eat anything there. Especially with Charla, and the teams did know what they had to do before they chose the detour task they wanted.
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Well GMan it does happen and it generally happens in every season. Season 9 Eric & Jeremy had a ten hour lead. That got immediately eat up in waiting for arranged buses (when teams could have drove themselves to teh airport). Then teams had another few hours ate up at the airport, teams tehn had an immediate hoh hold up over nearly 10 hours. For a total of nearly 24 hours of equlilzers before the first tasks of that leg started.
So it does happen, and it is planned in advance to give massice bunch up points to teh teams. I mean even in the first season in India their was a huge planned bunch. So its happen from the very first season.
Now do we know they do this before or during the race, who knows but it is clearly a part of the race.
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I should be at 2000 in another day or so.....
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I believe it!
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Now do we know they do this before or during the race, who knows...
I'll pitch my tent in Gman's camp on this issue. The phony bad weather is proof enough that nobody wanted a time-spread like that. I'll guess that while the racers were relaxing in Zanzibar the production staff was in panic mode, spending half their time re-confirming reservations/commitments/resources and the other half in "what do we do now?" meetings.
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Now do we know they do this before or during the race, who knows...
I'll pitch my tent in Gman's camp on this issue. The phony bad weather is proof enough that nobody wanted a time-spread like that. I'll guess that while the racers were relaxing in Zanzibar the production staff was in panic mode, spending half their time re-confirming reservations/commitments/resources and the other half in "what do we do now?" meetings.
This is EXACTLY what i think too.
And of course even THOSE plans were possibly screwed up when Guido & E/D missed the plane at Kiliminjaro.
The Bus Ride to Birkenau provided the ultimate bunch....but based on the hours of operation (mentioned on another thread) at Birkanau, it's possible even those bus rides were likely pushed back. (since the hours of "closing" was 3pm) B:)
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Okay--I totally can't remember if we ever figured out about how far apart the teams checked in at the "knightly" roadblock. Does anybody have an idea? Did we ever figure this out--since it was night I'm guessing we didn't have any Chateautime.... ???...
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I'm not sure peach, but the good thing is we will know by tonight! :yess:
I'm so excited! And thanks to Easter I don't have school tomorrow so I can stay up late and watch the insider videos and elimination station, AND tomorrow I can watch the finish line and the mat chats and pit stop cams and the web promo....
Talk about obsessed. I got all my friends into TAR though, so that's cool.
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I got all my friends into TAR though, so that's cool.
Took me years, but one by one, I finally got my family into TAR as well. My husband is a piano technician, so he loved the tuning detour. He was impressed with D/K and grimaced hugely when O/D cranked the tuning hammer about 90 degrees. And laughed at C/M's antics -- they sure left a mess behind!