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Why are the Oscars airing at the same time... :'(
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Previously on The Amazing Race...
Bopper couldn't compete because he's not healthy enough, but Mallory stepped in to form a new Team Kentucky.
Jet & Cord got to a fast start in China, while Twinnies struggled. Cord flipped into first place, helping the cowboys win 2 express passes.
Team Kentucky had some growing pains, but in the end, the Twinnies were eliminated.
10 teams remain... Who will be eliminated next?
WHAT JUST HAPPENED WITH THE INTRO???
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OMG NO INTRO, WHAT IS GOING ON!?!?!?!?!?
Taking the wrong page out of Survivor's book. :stare :stare :stare :stare :stare :stare :stare :stare :stare :stare
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No intro this week? Well ok then.
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An intro without showing the teams......now that's new. That 35 seconds must have been really needed tonight.
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Oh yeah, I was watching Episode 2 of Season 20 yesterday since it only aired in NZ on Saturday for the first time and Mark said "baby bear's soup" in that episode so I guess he will say it in this episode.
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My goodness, Jet sounds like he just doesn't care. At least Cord shows he wants to run the show.
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Jet & Cord won the first leg of the race and will depart 1st at 8:16 AM. Make your way to Chen Clan Academy. Stand still in front of the master to receive the next clue. Jet & Cord don't really know what to do with the EP that they have to give away. A local is trying to give Jet & Cord instructions, and he's trying to say 50 minutes. Jet & Cord think it's 15 minutes... They end up running.
Brendon & Rachel depart at 8:23 AM. Rachel runs through a tree thing? HAHAHA Brendon makes a joke about Rachel not crying for 1 leg. They are going by metro.
Margie & Luke kiss before pit start. Aw. They depart at 8:39 AM. Margie tries to get a taxi, but Luke doesn't think the driver knows where to go. They argue a little.
Dave & Connor leave at 8:46 AM.
Jet & Cord are told that it's too far to run.
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What is up with weird departure order... ???
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I didn't realize it started. No intro?! :'(
Brendon & Rachel, Team Cancer Survivor, and Margie & Luke get their V8 moment.
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Joey and Meghan leave in eighth and J/J leave in ninth? What happened?
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We flirt with life. <3
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Brenchel and Dave & Connor are both taking metro. It's very crowded.
Leo & Jamal depart at 8:53 AM. Mark & Mallory depart at 8:56 AM. Afghanimals like Team Kentucky, so they're working together. Mark & Mallory don't know each other.
Globetrotters depart at 8:57. Joey & Meghan at 9:09 AM. Jessica & John at 9:13 AM.
Teams get off the metro. Brenchel and Dave & Connor are standing in front of people doing tai chi. Someone inprints something onto their head... Brenchel get their clue first. Dave & Connor get it after. Margie & Luke arrive.
Brenchel are trying to ask for directions to wherever they're supposed to go. They're just pointing to their head. Dave & Connor get a cab.
Caroline & Jennifer depart at 9:19 AM. "I'm not boy crazy anymore, but we're going to flirt."
Jet & Cord get a cab.
Afghanimals and Mark & Mallory arrive at tai chi. They're now 4th and 5th. Brenchel finally gets a taxi.Globes are 6th. Joey & Meghan 7th. Jessica & John 8th.
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Dave & Connor arrive at a place with a lot of children. There's a clue box. Roadblock. Teams will have to build a kiddy car. When the toy soldier says it's ready, they will receive their next clue.
Dave & Connor have to find a toy car. They see a bunch of children with luggage. :lol: Dave is doing the roadblock. He thinks this will be easy. There's lots of little parts and the instructions are in Chinese...
Margie & Luke arrive in 2nd. Margie is doing the roadblock because in season 14, she built a boat propellor and in season 18, she built a dinosaur so Luke thought she would be good at this.
A little girl drove up to Dave and said hello. :lol:
"It's like a kid amusement park." Afghnimals arrive at the roadblock in 3rd. Jamal is doing the roadblock. They ask where the cowboys are. Brenchel arrive. Brendon's doing the roadblock. Mark & Mallory arrive, and Mark is doing it.
Rachel says it's awesome that Brendon is building the car because that's what he'll be doing for their kids on Christmas morning. :lol: Globes arrive and Big Easy is doing the roadblock.
Joey & Meghan arrive at the roadblock and Meghan is doing it. Jessica & John and John is doing the roadblock. Everybody talking about how cowboys and country aren't at the roadblock yet.
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The Chinese kiddies are so adorable! :hearts: It's the best quote starter so far.
"In season 14, she fixed a boat's propeller; in season 18, she made a dinosaur..." (I don't know, I found this pretty funny) :funny:
"Like Chuckie Cheese on steroids..."
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Caroline & Jennifer arrive at tai chi before Jet & Cord. Cowboys go from 1st to last. :funny:
Commercial.
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Still confused why YouTube started 16 minutes ahead of Country Singers... ??? ???
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So far I am liking Leo & Jamal as well as Brendon & Rachel this season!
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Two questions:
1. Why were there no teams in the intro?
2. Why did Joey & Meghan depart in 8th? I'm not complaining, but did they get a time credit?
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Two questions:
1. Why were there no teams in the intro?
2. Why did Joey & Meghan depart in 8th? I'm not complaining, but did they get a time credit?
Margie and Luke departed in third when they checked in as fourth.
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Why is country girls the last to depart?
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Still confused why YouTube started 16 minutes ahead of Country Singers... ??? ???
They probably overslept.
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Brendon, Rachel wants a baby! <3
Caroline: Hey cowboys!
Jennifer: Caroline, focus on us! <3333333333
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We're back at tai chi with Jet & Cord finally getting their clue. Caroline: "HI COWBOYS!!!" Jennifer tells Caroline to focus on getting a cab first lol.
At Edaytown, teams are still working on the roadblock. Margie says that the biggest distraction were the kids. Rachel says the little kids were adorable. "I want babies so much!" Mallory: "RACHEL WANTS A BABY!" :funny:
Oh, Flight Time is doing the roadblock. This one girl keeps bothering him. :lol:
Jet & Cord get to the roadblock in 9th. Jet is doing it. Everyone is surprised cowboys are at the back now.
Mark is doing very well at this roadblock. "Just like baby bear's soup, baby!" Mark with the title. Mark & Mallory are done in 1st!!! Mallory is so happy. Take a taxi to Guanzhou Children's Cultural Center to deliver the car. Mark puts the car into the trunk of a taxi.
Margie is done in 2nd. They're off to deliver their car.
Caroline & Jennifer arrive at the roadblock.
Not sure whose bag it is, but Mark or Mallory's bag is left behind... It's highlighted with editing.
Dave & Connor leave the roadblock in 3rd.
Caroline & Jennifer decide who to do the roadblock.
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We're back at tai chi with Jet & Cord finally getting their clue. Caroline: "HI COWBOYS!!!" Jennifer tells Caroline to focus on getting a cab first lol.
At Edaytown, teams are still working on the roadblock. Margie says that the biggest distraction were the kids. Rachel says the little kids were adorable. "I want babies so much!" Mallory: "RACHEL WANTS A BABY!" :funny:
Oh, Flight Time is doing the roadblock. This one girl keeps bothering him. :lol:
Jet & Cord get to the roadblock in 9th. Jet is doing it. Everyone is surprised cowboys are at the back now.
Mark is doing very well at this roadblock. "Just like baby bear's soup, baby!" Mark with the title. Mark & Mallory are done in 1st!!! Mallory is so happy. Take a taxi to Guanzhou Children's Cultural Center to deliver the car. Mark puts the car into the trunk of a taxi.
Margie is done in 2nd. They're off to deliver their car.
Caroline & Jennifer arrive at the roadblock.
Not sure whose bag it is, but Mark or Mallory's bag is left behind... It's highlighted with editing.
Dave & Connor leave the roadblock in 3rd.
Caroline & Jennifer decide who to do the roadblock.
I think Mallory dropped Mark's bag.
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This just proves Caroline & Jennifer can't do anything on their own. :groan:
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Leo & Jamal are out of the roadblock in 4th.
Caroline is doing the roadblock. Country singers are a mess right now.
Mallory is worried about the car that they tied to the trunk. Mallory: "Is your backpack back there?" Mark says it's not. Mallory has his passport... Mark doesn't have his bag. The backpack was left on the ground. Seems like Mallory thought he would notice it, but Mark didn't pick it up.
Jennifer tries to ask Cord for the Express Pass... Joey sees this happening and he doesn't think that Cord will give it... Big Easy sees it too... Jennifer is begging for it... Jessica comments about it too. Brenchel are out of the roadblock. Jennifer is still trying to convince Cord... Brenchel are done the roadblock in 5th. Jennifer still trying to convince Cord... Jet is done the roadblock in 6th. Jennifer asks Jet if they can have the EP...
Globetrotters finish the roadblock in 7th? or 8th? AND THE COWBOYS GIVE THE EXPRESS PASS. WOW. Cowboys are the only ones with an EP now. SHOCKING.
Leo tries to give his taxi driver a high five, but he doesn't understand lol. Mark is the first one to deliver the car. THey get their next clue and it's a detour.
Detour:
Featherball. Teams will have to make 10 passes with a shuttlecock. When they do, they will get their next clue.
China Cup. Receive a traditional Chinese therapy.
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I can see people being angry but it is legitimate strategy. I don't blame the girls for doing what they needed to do to get the express pass.
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Cant watch it live, HAVE FUN EVERYBODY :)
Reading polaroid's summary looks like position are changing everywhere already, this should be interesting.
Thanks polaroid!
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Mark insists on going back to get the backpack.
Margie & Luke get the detour clue.
Mark insists on going back... Mallory has his passport. Mark says he needs his medicine... Mallory has his medicine... Mark says he doesn't have clothes... Mark says he has to go back... Oh man they're bickering bad.
Mallory is asking Dave & Connor if they've seen Mark's backpack. Mallory is trying to see if she can send a taxi driver to get his backpack. Mark insists on going back. Mark gives a taxi driver directions to go back... Mark refuses to go without his backpack??? WHY.
Dave & Connor get the detour clue in 3rd.
Mallory insists it's not her fault... She also says that she would go without her backpack. WHAT IS MARK DOING omg.
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CaroJen pulling off the impossible! Such stars! <3333333333333333333333333333333333
This Mark & Mallory stuff is just tragic. I can't believe this... :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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This just proves Caroline & Jennifer can't do anything on their own. :groan:
RRRRGGG I'm sick of their flirtatious strategy. First with the Hockey Bros now the Cowboys.
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I can understand Mallory's frustration with Mark... Seems like they have everything needed to keep racing. :res:
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I can see people being angry but it is legitimate strategy. I don't blame the girls for doing what they needed to do to get the express pass.
Smart move from the cowboys too. The second EP is gone on the hands of a "weak" team so none of the most competitive ones have it - and therefore threat them -, and now they are the only ones with that power to use.
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This just proves Caroline & Jennifer can't do anything on their own. :groan:
RRRRGGG I'm sick of their flirtatious strategy. First with the Hockey Bros now the Cowboys.
I can't wait until they get U-Turned and start singing the blues. (Anger sarcasm)
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And we're back. Mallory & Mark still arguing. Mark says he doesn't have anything so I guess that's why he wants his stuff... Mallory says she'll buy him a new backpack and stuff. They have separate confessionals I guess, or it's edited to look that way.
Margie & Luke arrive at featherball. You can't use arms or hands. Dave & Connor arrive at featherball too.
Brenchel get their detour clue. They pick featherball.
Afghanimals see cowboys and Caroline & Jennifer. They figure out that an EP was used.
Caroline & Jennifer, Jet & Cord and Afghanimals all pick featherball. Globes are in 8th and they pick featherball.
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This is so tragic :/ I feel sorry for both of Mark and Mallory. Things aren't looking good and their relationship isn't great :/
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If we're seeing a different departure order than an arrival order, without an explanation, then we're almost certainly dealing with production time credits. I can't imagine penalties being applied and not being announced.
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Back at the roadblock. Joey says it looks like it's a race between them and Jessica & John. Looks like Meghan got it. And she did. Meghan's helping John?????????? WHAT. Wow. I can't believe this is happening???
John & Jessica are out of the roadblock in last. They're having trouble getting a cab.
Mark & Mallory get back to the backpack. They get it. Mallory says she'll take all the blame. Mark says his opinion didn't matter to Mallory. More arguing.
Teams having trouble with featherball.
Mark says Mallory is getting upset with no reason. Wow. This is real bad. Mallory arrive at featherball.
Margie & Luke were at 9, but Margie missed on the last one. YouTube and John & Jessica both pick to do featherball.
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whoo retro race music
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Margie misses on her last again. Dave & Connor finish the detour in 1st. Pit stop: Shamian Island. The last team to check in may be eliminated.
WOW WHAT. CAROLINE & JENNIFER FINISH THE DETOUR IN 2ND. Margie & Luke finish in 3rd.
Jet & Cord finish the detour in 4th. Cord had an incredible save. Brenchel finish shortly after. Globes finish the detour in 6th. Afghanimals finish in 7th.
Looks like a huge race to the pit stop. Mark & Mallory are still at the detour. Joey & Meghan arrive at featherball. Jessica & John arrive. Mark seems pissed at Mallory when she misses. This is crazy.
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CaroJen queens <3
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I did so bad at guessing in Jobby's game =))
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I wonder if this season will be all about how teams melt down and implode
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Caro and Jen did a great job at the Detour! It was a very good move to get the Express Pass and use it right then.
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And we're back with Mark & Mallory, Joey & Meghan and John & Jessica trying to do the roadblock. Mallory doesn't know if they should switch detour.
At Shamin Island, Dave & Connor get out of their taxi first. Caroline & Jennifer get out of their taxi. Brenchel are here too. Jet & Cord and Globes here too. Afghanimals here too. Margie & Luke arrive too... Brenchel see a sign with pictures. Margie & Luke see it? They starty running... Brenchel and Margie & Luke are running for it... Brenchel beat Margie & Luke to the mat.
Brenchel are team #1. Their first leg win! Margie & Luke are team #2. Caroline & Jennifer arrive on the mat. They're team #3. Phil asks about the Express Pass. Another team arrives. Dave & Connor arrive on the mat in 4th. Globes arrive in 5th. What a crowded mat. Phil says that Dave & Connor are team #5, but they're not. He gets corrected. :lol: Jet & Cord arrive on the mat too. This time, Phil counts to 6. :funny: Leo & Jamal arrive too. They're team #7.
Brenchel won $2500 each.
Pit stop:
1st - Brendon & Rachel
2nd - Margie & Luke
3rd - Caroline & Jennifer
4th - Dave & Connor
5th - Flight Time & Big Easy
6th - Jet & Cord
7th - Leo & Jamal
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Phil signing to all the teams while Luke is still there! Good guy Phil!
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I think that is a record for the most teams checking in at one time, I believe the record was Leg 3 in TAR 12?
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Back at the roadblock, lots of teams getting close. YouTube finish in 8th. Jessica & John finish in 9th. Mark & Mallory look shocked.
Jessica & John get to the pit stop before Joey & Meghan. John & Jessica are team #8. Joey & Meghan are team #9. Meghan says she learned a lesson to not help when it's not to their advantage.
Pit stop:
1st - Brendon & Rachel
2nd - Margie & Luke
3rd - Caroline & Jennifer
4th - Dave & Connor
5th - Flight Time & Big Easy
6th - Jet & Cord
7th - Leo & Jamal
8th - Jessica & John
9th - Joey & Meghan
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This Pit Stop looked like TAR12 Leg 3 but with more teams. :lol:
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Mark & Mallory finally finish the detour. They arrive at the pit stop and all the other teams are standing behind Phil. They are in last place and they've been eliminated from the race.
Mark shakes Phil's hand and thanks him. Mark says he doesn't think he could travel the world without Bopper. Mallory cries. They still look pissed in their confessional. Mark says he thinks it wasn't meant to be.
Pit stop:
1st - Brendon & Rachel
2nd - Margie & Luke
3rd - Caroline & Jennifer
4th - Dave & Connor
5th - Flight Time & Big Easy
6th - Jet & Cord
7th - Leo & Jamal
8th - Jessica & John
9th - Joey & Meghan
10th - Mark & Mallory (ELIMINATED)
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Very sad elimination, but Mark & Mallory really didn't work well together in my opinion. They are distant opposites. :'(
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Such a sad ending :( Can we please get Bopper and Mark back again? It's a shame that it didn't work out as people hoped. I hope this is a lesson to not do hybrid teams especially at the last minute :/
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Very sad elimination, but Mark & Mallory really didn't work well together in my opinion. They are distant opposites. :'(
I agree completely. I was rooting for them because I like them both, but they messed up getting Mark's backpack. There was a lack of communication.
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Next Week: Malaysia. Cord climbs up a waterfall, Globetrotters dance with the locals, Brenchel are having trouble rafting.
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Next week on The Amazing Race...
Cord is going down a waterfall or something? Globetrotters are dancing with locals while Brenchel fall out of a canoe in a creek... Oh my.
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I would have left the back pack.
I would have also give them $2,500 to Bopper if I had just won it.
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I would have left the back pack.
I would have also give them $2,500 to Bopper if I had just won it.
I was expecting Rachel to give Mark some $$$ when I saw her crying.
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Very sad elimination, but Mark & Mallory really didn't work well together in my opinion. They are distant opposites. :'(
I agree completely. I was rooting for them because I like them both, but they messed up getting Mark's backpack. There was a lack of communication.
There was a massive lack of communication, but I also feel that Mallory showed a lack of empathy. I think the way she said she'd buy Mark another backpack might have offended him.
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Look like Gary is the only one know how to calm Mallory down and Bopper is the only one know how to cheer Mark up.
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Seriously he should've left his bag. Anyone remember Steve & Allie - they were in first, they didn't go back for theirs.
People had no bags all the time on earlier seasons and did just fine...
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Very sad elimination, but Mark & Mallory really didn't work well together in my opinion. They are distant opposites. :'(
I agree completely. I was rooting for them because I like them both, but they messed up getting Mark's backpack. There was a lack of communication.
There was a massive lack of communication, but I also feel that Mallory showed a lack of empathy. I think the way she said she'd buy Mark another backpack might have offended him.
I think so too. I think he took it as an indirect insult, with her having money and him with not so much, to say the least.
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Such a sad ending :( Can we please get Bopper and Mark back again? It's a shame that it didn't work out as people hoped. I hope this is a lesson to not do hybrid teams especially at the last minute :/
I think hybrid teams are great, we've just had one dysfunctional one and one despicable one, so they just need to be more selective...
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Look like Gary is the only one know how to calm Mallory down and Bopper is the only one know how to cheer Mark up.
A reminder that if a team wants to race again, they do it with their original teammate. They were a train wreck in the 1st leg, and just miserable to watch in the 2nd leg. I guess they were one of those teams that may have looked good on paper to come back, but just crashed and burned quickly. I guess every returnee season has to have one of those teams.
But kudos to Big Brother for finally winning a leg, after never winning a single one in their original season.
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Mark and Mallory had too little time to understand each others. Next time, if there is a hybrid team, they should have time to make friend before the race.
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Such a sad ending :( Can we please get Bopper and Mark back again? It's a shame that it didn't work out as people hoped. I hope this is a lesson to not do hybrid teams especially at the last minute :/
I think hybrid teams are great, we've just had one dysfunctional one and one despicable one, so they just need to be more selective...
Eric & Danielle somewhat worked because at least they knew each other. Mallory didn't even know Mark's last name. The race is hard enough as it is, I don't think racers need to add the difficulty of having to learn how to deal with their teammates (leave that to the dating teams that want to see if they're fit for marriage), take TAR17's Andie & Jenna as an example, they just couldn't hit their stride because they had just recently met.
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Such a sad ending :( Can we please get Bopper and Mark back again? It's a shame that it didn't work out as people hoped. I hope this is a lesson to not do hybrid teams especially at the last minute :/
I think hybrid teams are great, we've just had one dysfunctional one and one despicable one, so they just need to be more selective...
Eric & Danielle somewhat worked because at least they knew each other. Mallory didn't even know Mark's last name. The race is hard enough as it is, I don't think racers need to add the difficulty of having to learn how to deal with their teammates (leave that to the dating teams that want to see if they're fit for marriage)
I hope this is the last time hybrid teams appear in the race ever. So far in race history, there was one that faked their relationship just to get in the race, and another that basically did not know each other at all.
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Such a sad ending :( Can we please get Bopper and Mark back again? It's a shame that it didn't work out as people hoped. I hope this is a lesson to not do hybrid teams especially at the last minute :/
I think hybrid teams are great, we've just had one dysfunctional one and one despicable one, so they just need to be more selective...
Eric & Danielle somewhat worked because at least they knew each other. Mallory didn't even know Mark's last name. The race is hard enough as it is, I don't think racers need to add the difficulty of having to learn how to deal with their teammates (leave that to the dating teams that want to see if they're fit for marriage), take TAR17's Andie & Jenna as an example, they just couldn't hit their stride because they had just recently met.
Yeah they knew each other but Danielle deserved no place on All-Stars TBH. Mark & Mallory could have worked given time, but we only got two legs. :(
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And on a personal note, I prefer watching teams whose bond is strong, like Zev & Justin's friendship, the Twinnies' quirky way of insulting each other to keep going, Ken & Tina's rekindled romance, Tim & Marie's weird relationship.
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I think if Meghan didn't help John, John & Jessica would be the one got eliminated and complain how they are at the mental challenges or If Mark just left his bag, Joey & Meghan would be the one got eliminated and Meghan would kill herself for making that stupid move. Either way, far more interesting resulf than this.
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Tim & Marie's relationship remind me of Jack Donaghy & Liz Lemon's relationship, They really understand and care each other but they don't really fond to each other and keep bugging each other. That's interesting to watch so it isn't that weird.
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LEG 2 (China) EPISODE ANALYSIS:
We've seen teams' emotional ups and downs, hackysacks left and right, and John bumping directly into a cameraman. However, we did not see the intro. What's up with that? I felt this Leg was better than the premiere, but I realized what HD seasons have lacked in editing that made the Race less motivational over the years... screentime. It's not as fast-paced and energetic like it used to be. Now, we just see teams WALK most of the time and chat like they are one big happy family. It seems like editors also stick on one team for too long. As for the route, that'll be broken down here. ;)
ROADBLOCK/ROUTE INFO: As much as the kids tempted me to give a flying score for assembling a toy car and giving it back to the community, I just can't. :'( I really do feel ashamed of myself for this, but the Roadblock was boring for me to watch. You couldn't tell who was close to finishing the final product since the child safety barriers were obstructing the view and the building area didn't have good lighting. As a viewer, all the parts looked uniform making the task nondescript. Giving the toy car to the kids at a community organization was pretty sweet though.
ROADBLOCK/ROUTE INFO SCORE: 5/10
DETOUR: "Kick Back" or "Relax"
The Detour option this Leg brought me back to the pioneer TAR seasons when teams chose between a physical/mental strength task and a self-stimulating task that may take longer. I'm surprised nobody took the cupping therapy option though as the shuttlecock game made teams fall flat on their glutei maximi. The task everyone performed provided excitement in rooting for your team, but there wasn't much variety going on except hitting a birdie that makes you fall down. The cupping therapy had no potential though. Nothing interesting about watching teams' backs turn into a vermilion pattern. :res:
DETOUR SCORE: 7/10
OTHER SCORES
LEG DIFFICULTY SCORE: 5/10
TEAM DRAMA SCORE: 8/10 (Sadly, all centering around Mark & Mallory)
CHUCK-E-CHEESE'S ON STEROIDS: 1/10
EPISODE 2 OVERALL SCORE: 6/10
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I think if Meghan didn't help John, John & Jessica would be the one got eliminated and complain how terrible they are at the mental challenges or If Mark just left his bag, Joey & Meghan would be the one got eliminated and Meghan would kill herself for making that stupid move. Either ways, jar more interesting resulf than this.
Either option sounds better than what we got, even though I like Jessica & John.
This leg is just tragic - haven't been this upset at someone booted within two legs other than John Vito & Jill... :'(
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rachel should keep her feet up next week! :lol:
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As much as I have loved both Gary and Mallory and Bopper and Mark, I really did not like the mash up at all because I just hated seeing great stars at their worst and I think that was all we got from the editing. There was just something about their dysfunction that I did not like seeing, probably just their bitterness to each other, which is why I was sort of glad to see them go so I didn't have to watch that anymore yet sad at the same time because it was really sad because Mark didn't get to race with whom he wanted to.
On a side note, they really should have left his bag like other members have said, like it was once an NEL penalty to lose everything and I think producers would make sure it would have too much of an effect.
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It's been exceedingly rare that all of the teams would be at the mat for the eliminated team to arrive and give them a standing ovation; in fact the only time that pops up in my memory is in TAR 1 in Tunisia's first leg, when Dave and Margaretta were eliminated.
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I can see people being angry but it is legitimate strategy. I don't blame the girls for doing what they needed to do to get the express pass.
I do understand both sides of the issues (although I see it as a weak on CaroJen's fault). Yes, it was strategic for the Cowboys to burn the second Express Pass. Although I am not a Cowboy fan, I did see the move as smart (I would give the second EP away to a weak team to burn as well in that situation). However, I think it could have further repercussions later on. CaroJen were lucky to have the Cowboys there, but this could be trouble for them if a similar situation occurs and the Cowboys aren't there. Also, since it was in plain view of most (if not all) of the teams there, this places huge targets on both Cowboys and CaroJen (will anybody help CaroJen after that? The cowboys could be the target of a U-Turn, now that teams know it's the only one in play). All in all, the move was a calculated risk, but one that could haunt them in the long run.
That being said, (gets on soapbox), I wasn't happy with Caroline complaining about how that "was a man's thing." It was a look at the instructions, and for me, that had some unfortunate implications (although it could have been the editing as well).
The bag incident (possible unpopular opinion coming up), I though both were to blame. I was curious to as why Mallory had put the bag down in the first place, and personally, both should have double checked before they left. I understand both of their frustrations as well, but the issue here was trust. There was virtually no trust between the two, due to how they were partnered up in the first place. All said and done, both were at fault (personally) and both should have made efforts to not blow each other off like they way they did. We saw what happens when there's a huge breakdown in communication (NaNa from leg 1), and it violates a fundamental rule of the race - listen to your partner.
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One thing I noticed. No mention of the Achilles heel or cancer from Dave and Connor this episode! A lot of the edit was geared towards Mark and Mallory this leg and a lot of the edit last leg was geared towards Natalie and Nadiya.
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Personally i love Carol & Jen more after this episode as the express pass thing is the smartest move they have made ever :hrt:
Cowboys made a smart move as well by giving the EP to a weak team
I don't understand why teams thought it was a dirty move , i thinks everyone would do so if they had the chance . :ascared
For the elimination of Mark & Mallory , i don't understand the sadness . It is basically the fault of Mark (yelling for getting the backpack )
We have seen so many times that teams can go without their backpacks !
Losing the opportunity for getting one million dollars because of a backpack ? It is definitely not worthwhile ! :gaah:
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The bag incident (possible unpopular opinion coming up), I though both were to blame. I was curious to as why Mallory had put the bag down in the first place, and personally, both should have double checked before they left. I understand both of their frustrations as well, but the issue here was trust. There was virtually no trust between the two, due to how they were partnered up in the first place. All said and done, both were at fault (personally) and both should have made efforts to not blow each other off like they way they did. We saw what happens when there's a huge breakdown in communication (NaNa from leg 1), and it violates a fundamental rule of the race - listen to your partner.
I re-watched the episode and in their confessional before they began Leg 2 they literally said there was no trust between them.
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The idiots on Facebook are even worse. They're blaming poor Mallory on everything. :res:
And they still keep calling Brenchel a "crybaby" "horrible" team. HAVE THEY NOT BEEN WATCHING TAR24 AT ALL? BRENCHEL HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT AN AMAZING TEAM HERE AND HAS BEEN SUPER LIKABLE I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THOSE IDIOTS ARE SMOKING :res:
But seriously...
Mallory :torche
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The idiots on Facebook are even worse. They're blaming poor Mallory on everything. :res:
And they still keep calling Brenchel a "crybaby" "horrible" team. HAVE THEY NOT BEEN WATCHING TAR24 AT ALL? BRENCHEL HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT AN AMAZING TEAM HERE AND HAS BEEN SUPER LIKABLE I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THOSE IDIOTS ARE SMOKING :res:
But seriously...
Mallory :torche
Its a lost cause tbh. The fans on Facebook are really annoying!
IKR. Thank god some (Like 5%) people on there at least make sense. :res:
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The idiots on Facebook are even worse. They're blaming poor Mallory on everything. :res:
And they still keep calling Brenchel a "crybaby" "horrible" team. HAVE THEY NOT BEEN WATCHING TAR24 AT ALL? BRENCHEL HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT AN AMAZING TEAM HERE AND HAS BEEN SUPER LIKABLE I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THOSE IDIOTS ARE SMOKING :res:
But seriously...
Mallory :torche
Its a lost cause tbh. The fans on Facebook are really annoying!
IKR. Thank god some (Like 5%) people on there at least make sense. :res:
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Mark & Mallory got off to such a good start, but resulted in such a sad ending, so that's a real shame.
Is anyone else liking the Afghanimals more this time round?
and as for the Blondes... wow. Even though they seem to be the most unassuming team, someone needs to keep their eye on them!
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Episode 1: All about Twinnies
Episode 2: All about Kentuckey
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Mark & Mallory got off to such a good start, but resulted in such a sad ending, so that's a real shame.
Is anyone else liking the Afghanimals more this time round?
and as for the Blondes... wow. Even though they seem to be the most unassuming team, someone needs to keep their eye on them!
I am liking the Afghanimals a lot more. They started to come around in their last leg. It can be the most unassuming team that wins it all. *cough* Josh and Brent *cough*
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Episode 1: All about Twinnies
Episode 2: All about Kentuckey
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Let's be real, those were two of the best teams in this "All Stars" cast. So I can't really blame them.
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I wasn't happy with this elimination, but didn't expect the Globes, Brenchel, or Cowboys to falter just yet. At the end of the day, I was happy to take team YouTube and John/Jess over Kentucky, but poor Mallory! They should have definitely double checked and would have been nice if Rachel had donated their leg winnings to Mark for Bopper (who knows! Maybe she did off-camera.)
Another fairly linear second half of the leg, hence all the teams showing up like, at the same time. I don't blame the Cowboys for handing over the Express Pass, good strategy. The country gals are getting sooooo much trash on twitter for not attempting to finish the building roadblock, I do feel bad for them and don't hate them, but wish they stayed longer to give it a shot.
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Episode 1: All about Twinnies
Episode 2: All about Kentuckey
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Let's be real, those were two of the best teams in this "All Stars" cast. So I can't really blame them.
Or because they're eliminated
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This elimination felt like a mercy kill. Even if they beat Joey and Meghan to the Pit-Stop, I think things wouldn't of improved too much. They were just two completely opposite people on a team for the first time who barely knew each-other. They were racing for the right reason but in the end they just didn't work together.
With that said, I have no objections for a true Bopper & Mark return. The producers took a gamble here which unfortunately didn't pay off.
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This elimination felt like a mercy kill. Even if they beat Joey and Meghan to the Pit-Stop, I think things wouldn't of improved too much. They were just two completely opposite people on a team for the first time who barely knew each-other. They were racing for the right reason but in the end they just didn't work together.
With that said, I have no objections for a true Bopper & Mark return. The producers took a gamble here which unfortunately didn't pay off.
Bopper & Mark and Gary & Mallory for All Stars 3 with Twinnies <3
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This elimination felt like a mercy kill. Even if they beat Joey and Meghan to the Pit-Stop, I think things wouldn't of improved too much. They were just two completely opposite people on a team for the first time who barely knew each-other. They were racing for the right reason but in the end they just didn't work together.
With that said, I have no objections for a true Bopper & Mark return. The producers took a gamble here which unfortunately didn't pay off.
Bopper & Mark and Gary & Mallory for All Stars 3 with Twinnies <3
Bopper & Mark absolutely yes, Gary & Mallory and Twinnies, I'd have no problem with.
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I don't like casuals beating up on Mallory but I also don't like people blaming Mark for what happened. It was a unfortunate situation what happened but they just didn't know each-other enough to come an agreement which was their downfall. I can understand Mallory being frustrated with Mark and I can understand Mark being frustrated with Mallory.
I think Mark took some offence to some of the comments Mallory made in the taxi about getting a new backpack and the clothes even though I doubt there would be any malice behind those words. Partially I think when I heard about the backpack belonging to someone else I think getting it back was more of a honour thing to Mark, safely returning something that belonged to someone else.
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I don't like casuals beating up on Mallory but I also don't like people blaming Mark for what happened. It was a unfortunate situation what happened but they just didn't know each-other enough to come an agreement which was their downfall. I can understand Mallory being frustrated with Mark and I can understand Mark being frustrated with Mallory.
I think Mark took some offence to some of the comments Mallory made in the taxi about getting a new backpack and the clothes even though I doubt there would be any malice behind those words. Partially I think when I heard about the backpack belonging to someone else I think getting it back was more of a honour thing to Mark, safely returning something that belonged to someone else.
Mallory was WISE to ATTEMPT to hire a taxi just to get the bag, but Mark wouldn't hear any of it. I personally would rather race in dirty dirty clothes if it was for a million dollars.
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I don't like casuals beating up on Mallory but I also don't like people blaming Mark for what happened. It was a unfortunate situation what happened but they just didn't know each-other enough to come an agreement which was their downfall. I can understand Mallory being frustrated with Mark and I can understand Mark being frustrated with Mallory.
I think Mark took some offence to some of the comments Mallory made in the taxi about getting a new backpack and the clothes even though I doubt there would be any malice behind those words. Partially I think when I heard about the backpack belonging to someone else I think getting it back was more of a honour thing to Mark, safely returning something that belonged to someone else.
Mallory was WISE to ATTEMPT to hire a taxi just to get the bag, but Mark wouldn't hear any of it. I personally would rather race in dirty dirty clothes if it was for a million dollars.
It was a wise move but as I said, they just didn't get along unfortunately :/ It was a gamble by the producers and casting that didn't pay off.
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For me it wasn't so much the backpack fiasco that eliminated Mallory and Mark but their inability to perform the detour fast. Despite going back to the RB location (and apparently getting somewhat lost before finding the park?) they still arrived at the detour location before YouTube and John/Jessica. So they still had a chance to survive but they just couldn't make it ( and we could see that Mallory by that stage was really frazzled.)
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Thoughts on The Episode:
I personally thought it was MUCH better than Leg 1. The Roadblock was a bit eh, but the kids saved it by a lot. (I loved the kids just staring at them, the one who said hello in that adorable voice to Dave, and much more). The Detour, meanwhile, was also eh. I have played a variation of the Shuttlecock Detour in our P.E class, and I have to say, it is much easier on TAR, where other people kick it to you and you just kick it back to the locals, and not directly to your partner. It was slightly entertaining, but SOME teams should have at LEAST done the cupping, simply because it would have been interesting to watch, like the "Light Brigade" Detour from TAR 23. However the 7 teams on the mat <3
Team Rankings:
LOVE:
Brendon & Rachel: I loved them last week, and I still love them this week. Rachel running to the woods so no teams could see her was hilarious, Rachels reaction to the clue being stamped on their foreheads was entertaining, and they just overall worked really well this leg. A very VERY well-deserved first place. Not to mention Rachels Pit Stop reaction is gonna be EPIC as a gif :lol:
Caroline & Jennifer: To all the people saying they have no personality and no good racing skills, take that back right now. They literally just morphed into manipulative, flirtatious girls, and it will be very VERY interesting to see more of that later in the season. Not to mention that they finished the Detour. IN SECOND. Wow. CaroJen <333333333
Mallory: She was her usual self, perky and excited. Unfortunately for her, the bag incident happened. So sad she has to go :( Her Pit Stop crying was heartbreaking OMG </3 And her "I'm sorrys!" were very very heartbreaking as well.
Side Note: (Brendon and Rachel Want a BAAABY! <3) Mallory needs to go back on another season with her dad <3
Joey & Meghan: They seemed to focus on Meghan a LOT MORE this time around, of whatever little screen time they had, and they just became a tad more likable on this leg. Meghans story of the car being on Christmas morning with the barbie stickers was good too. :lol: Meghan also throwing shade at CaroJen <3 Their decision to help J/J was pretty weird though. I would have totally left J/J though if I were in their shoes. Their racing skills is much worse this time than TAR 22 though, so unfortunately I dont think they will last much longer.
Jessica & John: They sure are running things differently now. They are much more likable than Joey & Meghan, but I would love to see them be more self-depracating like Leg 1. And who knows, with their placements, they just might be the bottomgods of the season :lol:
Leo & Jamal: They are much more fun this time around, they actually dont GRATE and are a fun M/M team (The best of the four M/Ms we have) and they have an even better potential title quote. (Chuck-e-Cheese on Steroids <3) I hope to see them continue to be fun to watch.
LIKE:
Margie & Luke: WOW. I have never seen a team do a complete turnaround like them. I really really liked Margie this leg, and Luke wasnt as grating. They are actually reverting to their TAR14 <33333 selves, and they are much more likable this time around . The only thing off beat from them is their Pit Stop reaction, which weirdly reminded me of Ernie & Cindy losing to Andy & Tommy, but oh well. Still like them.
Dave & Connor: They had more screen time this week, and they are currently a very simple, boring father/son team. No problem with that, but it is much better than all the Cancer talk from TAR 22, and they are a lot better now.
DISLIKE:
Mark Jackson: Mallory has been nothing but supportive and a fun team-member, but ugh. This is one of the worst eliminations we have ever had. The medicines were with MALLORY. The passports were with MALLORY. Those are what you basically need to RUN THE RACE. Besides, Im pretty sure production would let them go back anyway to get their clothes, but oh well. People from Kentucky dont act this way is just seriously disgusting and mean. People dont get upset for no reason. :res: Also, once he DID get his bag, he refused to run and just dragged his feet along. :res: Not to mention him at the Detour getting mad at Mallory.
I would still like him to return soon with Bopper though for a future UB season.
OTT HATE GET OFF MY SCREEN EW:
Flight Time & Big Easy: Them with the kids. Ugh. :res: It felt so forced and fake, like nails grinding on a chalkboard. Their loudness too at the Detour finishing :res: Thank god they have a more INV edit this time around.
Jet & Cord: If only they walked the whole way to Eday Town. Ugh. And while almost everyone cheered on Mark for finishing it first, they were complaining about not being first. :res:
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One thing I noticed. No mention of the Achilles heel or cancer from Dave and Connor this episode! A lot of the edit was geared towards Mark and Mallory this leg and a lot of the edit last leg was geared towards Natalie and Nadiya.
DON'T. Don't even mention. It will come. Let it rest for now.
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All hail the blondes!!!
It's kinda a low move on their part but It paid off eventually.
Besides, The blondes are generally one of the weakest teams so far.
it's only fair to give it to them
why risk having them going home and would have to give it to another team besides them
this leg is soooooo messy I can't even ...
what with the different placements at the starting point from last week's pit stop and the seven teams at the pit-stop and the mark-mallory going at it ...
the only highlights were the kids and Brenchel finally winning a leg. They're one of the only few teams in the race that hasn't won a leg at all. So pumped they finally won one. Hopefully more to come
Brenchel seemed to be more in sync this time around. Although I am not surprised because compared to season 20, Brenchel should have this season way easier than 20. I wish I could speak the same for Mark since he actually won a leg in 20.
And to be quite honest, I don't really see Mark and Mallory as a compatible team for this race. It was a failure attempt and oddly it just seemed so ... forced. Not that I dislike any of them, even Bopper, but I kinda wish they just cast another team. I feel like either they "really" want to have Mark in the race, or they "really" want to have Mallory in the race, but either's partner is eligible to come back... just saying...
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Just like everyone else, I think this episode is better than the previous one, sad elimination though. :(
- I liked seeing the cowboys fall from first to last. Just like what I said last season about the Exes falling from 1st. Too bad the cowboys caught up. :lol: After all, it's a fun part seeing them climbing out of last.
- I only like seeing teams go from 1st to last when it doesn't get the team eliminated. For Team Kentucky unfortunately... :torche
- Rb was nice with the kids around. :)
- Team Kentucky: Imo, I don't know who to blame, because their opinions are different. They bickered all the way to the detour. Just like everyone else said, they look good together as a hybrid team, but they don't work well. :( From last leg's stadium-trust thingy, all the way to this. It's sad seeing them go, but they really don't work together, since they didn't know each other much before the race. Their trust and communication to each other was... trainwreck.
- Honestly, I don't like Rachel, but she has changed, in a likable way. She's not a crybaby anymore unlike back then in TAR20. So I will now put away my hate from this team. Good thing that they finally won a leg too. Poor Margie & Luke though, but they've won at least a leg before, and it's their 3rd time anyway.
- On the other hand, the Country Singers: :groan: :tantrum (:;) I wanted them out :( and they should've gone home this leg instead of Team Kentucky. They way they begged for the EP: :gaah: Although the Cowboys made a smart move by giving it away to a weak team, I just don't like them surviving. I even want to question why they're in all-stars, but I just let it be, and I don't like them. :( From TAR22's u-turn alliance, and now this EP thing. :gaah: I wanted them out soon, but the spoilers... :( but I think what they'll be doing on the cowboys will be fun to watch. :lol:
- Meghan helping out Team JJ was a selfless move for an alliance, but they were fighting for last. It's a good thing that they didn't get eliminated for that, but it was a close one.
- The 7 teams on the mat almost simultaneously. :hrt: It was awesome, and record breaking! :conf: :hearts:
- The tasks were much better than last leg's. Too bad we didn't get to see the therapy detour.
- The placement changes during and between the tasks were great. They weren't linear. :)
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Bringing in Mallory as Mark's partner was a terrible idea imo. Remember how Brook & Claire couldn't race because of Claire's pregnancy (though I believe they also couldn't race due to contract issues) - they didn't just drop Claire, they dropped the whole team and replaced them with someone else. Why couldn't they do the same? And bring in GARY & Mallory (who I'm sure would be nice enough to race for the same cause: Bopper.)
Someone else said it a few posts earlier than me, but I think both of them are to blame in this particular situation.
- They should check their stuff before taking off..? I know the Race is stressful and stuff, but how did neither of them notice that Mark's bag wasn't put into the trunk?
- I noticed that a majority of you guys love Mallory (who doesn't?! Well.. the Facebook casuals :res: ) and are taking her side because she brought up the fact that she has the medicine Mark needs and offered to buy a new backpack. But let's face it - what would happen to Mark when he needs a nice warm jacket in, [let's say,] the Arctic? And honestly I wouldn't want to race with one set of clothes for 20+ days straight.
- Mallory should have handed his bag to him at least.
- Mark was getting frustrated with EVERY single thing Mallory did which made me feel bad :(
Their communication was a big, big mess. This is obviously due to the fact that they are practically STRANGERS and don't have much trust in each other.
- If GARY had left his backpack lying around in the same situation, I think Mallory would have understood a bit more. Mallory, as the daughter, would have listened or showed some understanding/care. Since Mark was her partner and NOT her dad, she fought for what she felt was right (to leave the bag and go).
- The same goes for Mark except I don't think he would have been so aggressive towards Bopper.
I feel sosososo bad that Mark and Mallory were put into this mess. :'(
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Episode 1: All about Twinnies
Episode 2: All about Kentuckey
:res:
Let's be real, those were two of the best teams in this "All Stars" cast. So I can't really blame them.
Or because they're eliminated
It was all about them because they were eliminated??? Because that would be crappy editing on the producers' part.
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Also, Mark & Mallory joins the ranks of Kevin & Drew and Mike & Mel as teams that were enjoyable the first time around, but miserable disasters the 2nd (or 3rd in Mallory's case) time around, that I wanted their elimination so badly. Just so freaking painful to watch. While I would assumed it would have been the same for Mark, even if he was racing with Bopper, I don't think it would have been the case with Mallory if she raced with Gary.
Also, any wishes for racers from different teams racing together, will be put to rest (does anyone really want to see a Colin/Jonathan teamup?)
For the rest of the season, you better be entertaining! Anything less than that, will be highly unacceptable.
Bringing in Mallory as Mark's partner was a terrible idea imo. Remember how Brook & Claire couldn't race because of Claire's pregnancy (though I believe they also couldn't race due to contract issues) - they didn't just drop Claire, they dropped the whole team and replaced them with someone else. Why couldn't they do the same? And bring in GARY & Mallory (who I'm sure would be nice enough to race for the same cause: Bopper.)
I wonder how many cases of that happening, as I can think of a few others where one could not do it, so the whole team was not brought back. But since they are from the single-digit seasons, I guess no chance of coming back at all.
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I don't know what's up with the Intro and the starting order but... It was confusing. @.@
Well... the last week I said that I dont' like the Country Singers... I say it again. :/
If Jet & Cord didn't give the Express Pass to them, they were the eliminated team. Stupid Cowboys... args!!
Well, the leg was ok, but I want more... the same feelings like the Leg 1.
I really love Jessica & John, Joey & Meghan and Margie & Luke. I like Brenchel too. I'm sad because my two favorites teams (J/J & J/M) are in the back of the pack again but... they're still racing... YET! T_T
So, now:
LOVE: Jessica & John, Joey & Meghan, Margie & Luke.
LIKE: Brendon & Rachel.
NEUTRAL: Dave & Connor, Flight Time & Big Easy, Leo & Jamal, Mark & Mallory (I don't like their behavior... I don't like so much in this Leg, but I'm sad because they were eliminated).
DISLIKE: Caroline & Jennifer (nearly in HATE).
HATE: Jet & Cord.
I love they go to another country, because these two China leg's was a little bored. I think Malaysia leg's have better scenery. We go to the jungleee! :D
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There's soooooooo many Posts I want to reply directly to, but there's just too many, so I'll get all my thoughts out here.
From following the Spoiler thread during filming, I remember being THRILLED when it was revealed Mark & Mallory finished the RB first, but that slowly turned to devastation, and when it was confirmed they were eliminated I was majorly pissed! :'(
BUT now after watching both episodes so far, this team has been a train wreck. :groan:
I'm annoyed with both of them. As they stated themselves, they had no trust, Mallory forgot the bag, it was her fault but she shouldn't be condemned for it because Mark could have easily went on and finished the leg and then return for the bag after. I did feel sorry for him though, when he said he had nothing and all he had was in that bag, which makes his determination to get the bag understandable.
The thing that's really got me is that I think the majority of us that followed the spoilers believed that the bag incident was the reason for their elimination? I don't think so.
Honestly, I think had they not forgot the bag, or just left it, they still would've been the last to finish the detour.
If I was to choose anyone for Mark & Mallory's elimination it'd be the Cowboys. :funny:
If the girls wern't given the EP, then they def would have been out.
Ultimately, I'm sad as hell that Mark & Mallory are gone, but at the same time I'm happy as I'll not be worrying about them the rest of the season. They're still my favourite team from this entire cast but it just wasn't meant to be.
They were seriously annoyed with each other, and on a side note, I see that Mallory and Mark arn't friends on Facebook, even though they're friends with quite a few other racers. I know it means very little but thought it was an interesting note.
As I said on another thread, and I see a few people mention it here, All Stars 3 NEEDS Bopper & Mark, but also I'd love to see Gary & Mallory return, just to see the dynamics between the two teams when they're competing against each other, having raced together prior.
BRIEF EPISODE REVIEW
Where the hell was the intro?? I really missed it. :( :lol:
And the departure times were all messed up? I assume it was production time credits, but I'd love to know where the production errors occurred? Possibly at Canton Tower? ???
The whole EP fiasco is exactly that. I can't get my head around the Cowboys just giving it away? Sure the girls are a weaker team, but don't give it to a team you know could pass you once you hand it to them? Either way, I still LOVE CaroJen. :luvya:
As for the overall episode, it had everything the race is about. The Meltdowns, EP Drama (Although not as epic as S23), constant position changes, flat out excitement, especially at the Pitstop, and most importantly, it was emotional. Whether you liked Kentucky or not, you couldn't help but feel some sort of emotion for them.
I'm putting this down as one of my Top 5 all time great eps. :conf:
Ahhhhh, I'm glad to get that off my chest! :colors
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Mark could have easily went on and finished the leg and then return for the bag after.
They can't.
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Mark could have easily went on and finished the leg and then return for the bag after.
They can't.
Really?? Why? I'm sure production wouldn't stop him from going back and getting his bag? I mean he has 12 hours to do it?
Even if he wasn't allowed, crew members that were at the RB location could have picked it up, kept it and gave it back to him after the race is over? Well at least that's what should happen if he isn't allowed to go back for it himself had he decided to continue.
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Mark could have easily went on and finished the leg and then return for the bag after.
They can't.
Really?? Why? I'm sure production wouldn't stop him from going back and getting his bag? I mean he has 12 hours to do it?
Even if he wasn't allowed, crew members that were at the RB location could have picked it up, kept it and gave it back to him after the race is over? Well at least that's what should happen if he isn't allowed to go back for it himself had he decided to continue.
Yes, crew members MIGHT BE able to pick it up and keep it for him till the end of the race. But we will never know unless some racers speak out. Just in case you didn't realize, in TAR 13... the cameraman knew Dallas left his passport pouch behind, but let the cab drive off with it anyway. I am more incline to think that production WON'T pick up anything for them.
During the 12 hours or pit-stop rest time, it's always time for interviews and they will always be in their hotel rooms/some place to do their interviews and will be isolated from the other teams. They won't get to go out and shop or tour or sightsee.
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Mark could have easily went on and finished the leg and then return for the bag after.
They can't.
Really?? Why? I'm sure production wouldn't stop him from going back and getting his bag? I mean he has 12 hours to do it?
Even if he wasn't allowed, crew members that were at the RB location could have picked it up, kept it and gave it back to him after the race is over? Well at least that's what should happen if he isn't allowed to go back for it himself had he decided to continue.
Yes, crew members MIGHT BE able to pick it up and keep it for him till the end of the race. But we will never know unless some racers speak out. Just in case you didn't realize, in TAR 13... the cameraman knew Dallas left his passport pouch behind, but let the cab drive off with it anyway. I am more incline to think that production WON'T pick up anything for them.
During the 12 hours or pit-stop rest time, it's always time for interviews and they will always be in their hotel rooms/some place to do their interviews and will be isolated from the other teams. They won't get to go out and shop or tour or sightsee.
I didn't know about the TAR 13 incident, but in TAR 19 the camera crew saw Kaylani's passport at the Gas Station and said nothing either. I was under the impression that production couldn't pick up "essential" items that teams drop such as Passports, Money or Clues, but I would have assumed they could get the backpack and keep it away from the team till after the race.
As for the 12 hours, I know the teams are to be "sequestered" and kept away from anyone but their partners, etc.. but again I thought they may have made an exception for Mark to go and get his Backpack.
The first option of getting a crew member to get the backpack is the probably the most likely outcome if they were to retrieve the pack, but I still can't help but think that Mark made the wrong decision to go back for it? Although I do understand why he went back.
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I thought Mark was wrong on insisting on going back for the backpack. Given the other teams reactions to Bopper having to withdraw and to Mark and Mallory's elimination, I suspect the other teams would have chipped in enough money to buy Mark a few tee shirts and a pair of pants. I've also read around here somewhere that Leo and Jamal were spending an hour or so before each leg in the hotel lobby asking people for money and generally getting as much from that as they were given for each leg. Being poor, Mark might have had some issues with begging, but he would have at least still been in the race. If they would have done that for a few legs, I think Mark would have been able to replace all that he lost. I'm wondering if there was something else in the backpack that he needed or refused to let go of. That said, surviving the leg probably would have just delayed the inevitable. They were too mismatched and dysfunctional to last for long.
I also think they hurt themselves by doing the Featherball instead of the cupping massage. Neither of them seemed very athletic or agile and I suspect the massage would have been faster. Several of the teams might have benefitted by this as some of their Featherball attempts were kind of painful to watch.
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OMG NO INTRO, WHAT IS GOING ON!?!?!?!?!?
THIS. I JUST WATCHED. THIS. AFTER 24 SEASONS AND THEY CUT A 35 SECONDS INTRO?
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Can somebody make a moving gif of Luke's expression when they open up the clue to discover they are still racing in China?
I think that's just priceless. He would have agreed wholeheartedly as well. Get me out of China! :funny:
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Can somebody make a moving gif of Luke's expression when they open up the clue to discover they are still racing in China?
I think that's just priceless. He would have agreed wholeheartedly as well. Get me out of China! :funny:
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
I didn't think someone would point that out, but I also caught that and it was hilarious xD
Luke has ran 19 legs up until now, 6 of them were in China lol :funny:
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I thought Mark was wrong on insisting on going back for the backpack. Given the other teams reactions to Bopper having to withdraw and to Mark and Mallory's elimination, I suspect the other teams would have chipped in enough money to buy Mark a few tee shirts and a pair of pants. I've also read around here somewhere that Leo and Jamal were spending an hour or so before each leg in the hotel lobby asking people for money and generally getting as much from that as they were given for each leg. Being poor, Mark might have had some issues with begging, but he would have at least still been in the race. If they would have done that for a few legs, I think Mark would have been able to replace all that he lost. I'm wondering if there was something else in the backpack that he needed or refused to let go of. That said, surviving the leg probably would have just delayed the inevitable. They were too mismatched and dysfunctional to last for long.
I agree with you about Mark making the wrong decision, but I just listened to Mark & Mallory's elimination interview with Rob Cesternino on his website, and Mark said that leaving the Backpack wasn't an option because he borrowed it from someone that had already won the race using it, so he thought it would be good luck. He hints towards it belonging to Rachel & Dave, so I guess that explains why he didn't want to leave it behind.
Here's the link to the interview if you want to hear it. :)
http://robhasawebsite.com/amazing-race-all-stars-exit-interview-mark-jackson-mallory-ervin-kentucky/
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Can somebody make a moving gif of Luke's expression when they open up the clue to discover they are still racing in China?
I think that's just priceless. He would have agreed wholeheartedly as well. Get me out of China! :funny:
(http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/3-03-2014/YMTwgA.gif) (http://www.makeagif.com/YMTwgA)
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I goofed earlier and managed to miss some of the posts in the middle, so I apologize if someone has already mentioned this. I can't fault Mark for wanting to go back and get the bag. It's easy to say that it wasn't much and that he can buy new clothes or whatever else was in there. It's easy to say it because many of us (I'll refrain from using all as I don't personally know everyone here) are in a position where we can just replace a backpack and the items in it. From what I've heard and read, Mark is not only not a wealthy person he is poor. When someone is or has been poor, things that seem to hold little value to us are worth a fortune to them. He is probably very accustomed to not spending money on himself because he doesn't have anything left after he takes care of his family's needs. So to him, spending even $50 on a couple new shirts and a pair of pants is $50 less that he has to take care of his family. I can absolutely understand why the bag was so important to him. I also get the feeling that he is a proud man that would be extremely uncomfortable asking others for handouts. I kind of get the feeling that he's the type of person who wouldn't be terribly comfortable taking money from others if they offered. While I could see him accepting the offer to help his family, I get the impression that he wouldn't feel good about it and certainly wouldn't accept it so that he could spend it on himself. That's just the impression I get. I don't know the guy, but he gives off that vibe.
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I'm late to the party but, let me start from the top...
Guangzhou Opera House
I have personal issues with the Opera House, with the architect actually but why don't we just not talk about that...
I usually don't mind teams departing in a different order as long as it is explained because overall this is a race and you should respect the order of teams.
Chen Clen Academy
I thought this was a really cool way to give the clue to the teams while showing us another side of chinese culture.
It also a struggle for the teams because of the language barrier, the cowboys were the only ones to be affected by this though...
Roadblock
oh man, I have issues with this...
In one way this was interesting to see because we get to see them struggle to put something together while being distracted, Mark getting it before everyone else was impressive and got excited for them, then lack of communication started to affect the team and it was all downhill from there. Language barrier trying to figure out the schematics...
Is always nice to see the race giving something out to the city they are using to race, so I aprove of the car delivery.
Express Pass
I see this as a two way move... From Caroline&Jennifer perspective, yes they did the right move to ask the EP to Jet&Cord but I thought they were not gonna use it right away, it would've been nice to see them at least try to do the roadblock instead they just gave up on it right away... From Jet&Cord perspective, they didn't care about the EP, they've always race on their own, no alliances and no favors, so they were not gonna do anything with it, giving the EP away, they take pressure out of their shoulders and it did not affect them at all considering it was wasted rightaway and they had a lot of teams behind them...
Now that the 2nd EP is gone, we are not gonna get a repeat from last season where the EP was the main focus for a long time.
One Sided Detour
Oh man, after 23 seasons, you would expect whoever put the legs together to predict this sort of things. Teams have learn in multiple ways that they always need to be in control of their race, when you put therapy+sauna it just a waste of time for someone that is in a hurry, the featherball thing can be done really fast or at least you can try and get lucky with it and finish it... It sounds boring but it was actually fun to watch all the teams try to do it at the same time, the idea that everything can happen and they are all there to watch it happen is great.
Pitstop
It was great to see all the teams get there so close to each other, but the location wasn't really that interesting, maybe a view from the sky would've make it more interesting. It allow us to have a race to the mat though and that's nice. It was fun to see Phil get the order wrong for I think the first time in 24 seasons, it reminds of the Pool Pitstop in one of the earlier seasons, don't remember which one, but it was equally funny...
Mark&Mallory
It was sad to see them go but I was fine with it, they didn't have good communication, they didn't know each other, they didn't have good teamwork, they were destined to fail from the beginning. They are the proof that you have a rule from season 1 and you should respect that rule "... teams with a pre-existing relationship...". I love the way teams were standing behind Phil to say goodbye to Mark&Mallory and even though I'm not fan of Mark&Bopper they totally deserve to comeback next season, they were promised to race together and I would be fine to see them race again on Season 25 as a especial case.
TL,DR:
- Language barrier finding locations and putting the toy car together was nice to see.
- Got excited for Mark&Mallory after the roadblock but it went downhill from there.
- 2nd EP situation worked for both teams and for me as a viewer.
- One sided detour was predictable, althuogh it made it exciting to see all the teams doing the same task at the same time.
- Boring Pitstop. But it allowed for a foot race to the mat.
- Mark&Mallory are the reason why "...teams with a pre-existing relationship..." is a rule that should not be broken.
- I would be ok with Mark&Bopper comeback to race again in season 25 as a especial case.
Luke has raced in China 7.2 legs (s18 first task on leg 6 included). Almost a full season of China :lol:
Oh My God I'm Dying :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:
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Can somebody make a moving gif of Luke's expression when they open up the clue to discover they are still racing in China?
I think that's just priceless. He would have agreed wholeheartedly as well. Get me out of China! :funny:
(http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/3-03-2014/YMTwgA.gif) (http://www.makeagif.com/YMTwgA)
Luke, I hope you are seeing this! I'm gonna use this as my avatar. THANKS Alenaveda!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mark could have easily went on and finished the leg and then return for the bag after.
They can't.
Really?? Why? I'm sure production wouldn't stop him from going back and getting his bag? I mean he has 12 hours to do it?
Even if he wasn't allowed, crew members that were at the RB location could have picked it up, kept it and gave it back to him after the race is over? Well at least that's what should happen if he isn't allowed to go back for it himself had he decided to continue.
Yes, crew members MIGHT BE able to pick it up and keep it for him till the end of the race. But we will never know unless some racers speak out. Just in case you didn't realize, in TAR 13... the cameraman knew Dallas left his passport pouch behind, but let the cab drive off with it anyway. I am more incline to think that production WON'T pick up anything for them.
During the 12 hours or pit-stop rest time, it's always time for interviews and they will always be in their hotel rooms/some place to do their interviews and will be isolated from the other teams. They won't get to go out and shop or tour or sightsee.
I didn't know about the TAR 13 incident, but in TAR 19 the camera crew saw Kaylani's passport at the Gas Station and said nothing either. I was under the impression that production couldn't pick up "essential" items that teams drop such as Passports, Money or Clues, but I would have assumed they could get the backpack and keep it away from the team till after the race.
As for the 12 hours, I know the teams are to be "sequestered" and kept away from anyone but their partners, etc.. but again I thought they may have made an exception for Mark to go and get his Backpack.
The first option of getting a crew member to get the backpack is the probably the most likely outcome if they were to retrieve the pack, but I still can't help but think that Mark made the wrong decision to go back for it? Although I do understand why he went back.
Refer to season 13 when Dandrew left their shoes behind at the cow task in Almaty. Once they finish the leg, teams are not allowed to backtrack.
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Or in TAR 16, Steve and Allie refused to back track to get their bags and won the leg.
A dinner on the beach on Praslin, Seychelles, massages, all the 7-Up the team could drink (at the Pit Stop), and $7,000 for each team member
They didn't get to go back either.
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So many comments on Mark & Mallory. :lol: I'm pretty sure TAR is seeing this. I think we won't have another hybrid team for all-stars, although I'm not against hybrid teams. :)
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by the way , the following clip from episode 2 actually showed Hong Kong instead of Guangzhou !
What a big mistake......
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7397/12925865395_92552ba0a3_b.jpg)
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Sorry, gotta post this here, too.
I can totally understand why someone would hate on Rachel or disliked the (annoying) twinnies, but how can they bitch about Mallory in the last episode all over facebook? (:;):groan:
Like, SERIOUSLY?! :tantrum
I get that Mallory was responsible for the lost bag, but where did she whine and bitch about it? (Yes, lots of people are saying that) Did she not even offer Mark to buy him a new bag lol?
AND ON TOP OF ALL THIS, PEOPLE ARE BLAMING MALLORY FOR LOSING THE RACE AT THE DETOUR. :umn: And that SHE was losing her temper, like what the heck? Mark was everything but supportive with his facepalmy behaviour. Oh, and when was that? I believe, when Mark had already received his bag :groan: :groan:
And by the way, I guess S16 isn't that far to be forgotten? What about Steve & Allie and both of their lost bags? People should be complaining about Mark, not Mallory, if they choose a single person to blame :umn:
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Ok. I just watched the entire episode two today and surprising I like this episode.
The dynamic is so great. The position keeps changing and I have no idea how Brendon & Rachel can finish first but leaving detour in 4th? Are all the 7 Teams position that close? Anw, I am glad that finally Brenchel wins a leg! :lol:
I also like Cowboys strategic move by giving the EP to Caro & Jen. That wouldn't cost them a race and make sure that the 2nd EP has gone and they are the only teams who had that. Kuddos to both of them to make that quick yet great move. And I am surprised that Caro & Jen are so fast finishing that Shuttle-Cock Detour :o
The Highlight for me is when Meghan helps John. I am so rooting for both team in Season 22 and love their alliances (except Mona & Beth). Realising that they are the last two teams, but still helping John? OMG! I don't know wheter Amy would even do that to Nicole. I love both of them in Season 22 and love them even more, esp John & Jessica. Hope they stay longer than in previous race <3
Basically, I don't really care abt Mark & Mallory idk why. If I were in that position I would make sure that we still keep racing despite my bag has gone. But, I am not in the same position like Mark. So, sorry for him by getting back the backpack, but lose the chance to keep racing :(
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i'm so sad and MAD because everyone's blaming Mallory on Facebook :dick :dick
Yes, the bag was Mallory's fault but they could escaped elimination if they racing without it.
I understand that people love Mark, Bopper, & their story, but blaming everything and calling Mallory moron, dingbat, etc is just sad :'( :'( :'(
i bet most of them are TAR's new fans. They don't even know who Mallory is. If they watch season 17 & 18 i believe they have different perspective about her.
GARY & MALLORY FOR ALL STARS 3 PLEASE...!!!
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Several teams left in a different order at the start of Leg 2 than they arrived at the end of Leg 1. Dave & Connor originally arrived in 3rd place but were 4th to leave, Margie & Luke came in 4th but left 3rd, Jessica & John came in 8th but left 9th, Caroline & Jennifer came in 9th but left 10th, and Joey & Meghan came in 10th but left 8th. No on-air explanation for the changes was given. Placements above reflect the corrected order.
why!!! :( i want to know.. boo! :(
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I didn't know about the TAR 13 incident, but in TAR 19 the camera crew saw Kaylani's passport at the Gas Station and said nothing either. I was under the impression that production couldn't pick up "essential" items that teams drop such as Passports, Money or Clues, but I would have assumed they could get the backpack and keep it away from the team till after the race.
As for the 12 hours, I know the teams are to be "sequestered" and kept away from anyone but their partners, etc.. but again I thought they may have made an exception for Mark to go and get his Backpack.
The first option of getting a crew member to get the backpack is the probably the most likely outcome if they were to retrieve the pack, but I still can't help but think that Mark made the wrong decision to go back for it? Although I do understand why he went back.
Refer to season 13 when Dandrew left their shoes behind at the cow task in Almaty. Once they finish the leg, teams are not allowed to backtrack.
From all these posts I realise now that there was no way production were gonna pick up the backpacks. :funny:
GARY & MALLORY FOR ALL STARS 3 PLEASE...!!!
^^^ This soooo much!! I think I've said I want Gary & Mallory and Mark & Bopper back for the next All Stars on nearly every relevant thread on here, but it's just to increase the chances of CBS seeing it. :lol: - God I LOVE these teams! :funny: :funny: :colors
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I believe Andrew & Dan also lost there shoes in TAR 13. They had to buy knew ones at the airport.
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In terms of the departure order being different from the arriving order, I think it has to do with time credits that get calculated after they arrive. For example, teams shouldn't be penalized for time that is sucked away by their production team, like if they have to stop for their crew to use the washroom, or change the camera batteries, or stuff like that. I am pretty sure I read about this online somewhere, and Jessica L. talked about it on RHAP this week.
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Mark & Mallory :(
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I think production would have tried to bring the bag with them. Like they did when Steve & Allie forgot their bags in the Seychelles in season 16. They got their bags back once they were eliminated.
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I just rewatched the episode and I saw that after Mark & Mallory got the backpack, Mallory was showing the next destination on the clue to the taxi driver and when Mark was trying to point to it, she shoved his hand away. :(
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:( Another reason why I'm embarrassed to see Mark & Mallory end up like this, especially Mallory who was so likeable in TAR 17 & 18. Not that I hate her here, but this season we saw a different side to her :(
I think she just didn't wanna hear anything/associate with Mark (as she was fed up) anymore so she just shoved his hand away. Just like when Mark complained that she was running to the Detour ( :res: ), she said "If you say one more thing to me, Mark... we went back and got your bag!" (something along the lines of that).
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:( Another reason why I'm embarrassed to see Mark & Mallory end up like this, especially Mallory who was so likeable in TAR 17 & 18. Not that I hate her here, but this season we saw a different side to her :(
I think she just didn't wanna hear anything/associate with Mark (as she was fed up) anymore so she just shoved his hand away. Just like when Mark complained that she was running to the Detour ( :res: ), she said "If you say one more thing to me, Mark... we went back and got your bag!" (something along the lines of that).
TBH, I would be very very pissed too if that happened to me. I would have DEFINITELY have hustled more to the Detour since I would be in definite last. Since according to sightings they were only 10 minutes behind Joey & Meghan/Jessica & John, imagine if they had run all the way to the Detour. They could have made up time and stayed in it.
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I think production would have tried to bring the bag with them. Like they did when Steve & Allie forgot their bags in the Seychelles in season 16. They got their bags back once they were eliminated.
Production NEVER interferes with the race as it happens. They cannot. That is why so many teams have had miserable things happen.
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Yea, Steve and Allie got their bags back.
http://www.tvguide.com/news/amazing-races-steve-1016973.aspx
TVGuide.com: Did you ever get back your bags that you left in the Seychelles?
Allie: Yeah, after we were eliminated in Malaysia, they gave them back. They were always going to give them back [after our run on the show]. We didn't even know they had them. We were just like, "Oh, we lost our bags."
All Mark had to do was to race around without new clothes. That's all. And I don't know what his fuss was all about. After watching the episode, I'm even more frustrated with everyone who's slamming Mallory.
It was both of their mistake that they didn't see the bag that was left behind. And Mallory offered everything she could do (except to go back), which is stupid and pointless.
I just DON'T UNDERSTAND Mark. It's just so annoying he keeps on saying nobody understands him and even said nobody in Kentucky would act like this. And he kept going on and on about needing the money. BUT, you don't behave like a man on a race who needed the money.
The first time round, I liked Bopper more than Mark and now I know why. I just don't get this guy.
This is just so disappointing. Instead of saying Mark needed a better team mate, I would have otherwise think that Mallory deserves better as well.
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:( Another reason why I'm embarrassed to see Mark & Mallory end up like this, especially Mallory who was so likeable in TAR 17 & 18. Not that I hate her here, but this season we saw a different side to her :(
I think she just didn't wanna hear anything/associate with Mark (as she was fed up) anymore so she just shoved his hand away. Just like when Mark complained that she was running to the Detour ( :res: ), she said "If you say one more thing to me, Mark... we went back and got your bag!" (something along the lines of that).
TBH, I would be very very pissed too if that happened to me. I would have DEFINITELY have hustled more to the Detour since I would be in definite last. Since according to sightings they were only 10 minutes behind Joey & Meghan/Jessica & John, imagine if they had run all the way to the Detour. They could have made up time and stayed in it.
But Mark & Mallory got to the Detour before Youtube and John & Jessica, so they still had a chance to make up the time they lost and stay in it.
Mallory said in the RHAP interview that the demonstrators they chose were sooo relaxed and didn't seem to care whether they got the challenge finished or not. She then said that once Youtube and John & Jess finished, they changed demonstrators and got the clue straight away! :groan:
If only they'd changed sooner!!! :'(
I went back and re-watched the detour, and the demonstrators they're with when they finish the task are different from the ones they first choose. (The ones they change too were the ones that John & Jess were with)
It just wasn't their day, but I truly believe this was Mark & Mallory's Leg. If they hadn't had the communication problems this would've been their Leg for the taking.
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Maybe Mark didn't know that he'd get the bag back after the race. ???
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There is no guarantee that he would....
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I just thought that going back for the backpack killed them ultimately. And that, was Mark's insistence and Mark's fault for me. Sorry, just a stubborn guy here who just didn't see Mark's point and insistence of going back for the bag, then kept harping on the fact that his opinion doesn't matter.
Did Mallory's opinion mattered to you? No doubt Mallory wanted another cab driver to go back and get the bag then meet them at the Detour location and wasted time, but that was just sad. I'm even more surprised they didn't go back half way when they realized it and go get the bag immediately.
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I just thought that going back for the backpack killed them ultimately. And that, was Mark's insistence and Mark's fault for me. Sorry, just a stubborn guy here who just didn't see Mark's point and insistence of going back for the bag, then kept harping on the fact that his opinion doesn't matter.
Did Mallory's opinion mattered to you? No doubt Mallory wanted another cab driver to go back and get the bag then meet them at the Detour location and wasted time, but that was just sad. I'm even more surprised they didn't go back half way when they realized it and go get the bag immediately.
THIS!
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I just thought that going back for the backpack killed them ultimately. And that, was Mark's insistence and Mark's fault for me. Sorry, just a stubborn guy here who just didn't see Mark's point and insistence of going back for the bag, then kept harping on the fact that his opinion doesn't matter.
Did Mallory's opinion mattered to you? No doubt Mallory wanted another cab driver to go back and get the bag then meet them at the Detour location and wasted time, but that was just sad. I'm even more surprised they didn't go back half way when they realized it and go get the bag immediately.
THIS!
Completely agree - Mark is a good guy and I get that since it wasn't his backpack and there was no guarantee it would be found/returned/picked up by another team, he wanted to save face and still return the bag if they didn't win the million or any cash prizes.
Since it was still there, chances are it would have been turned into a nearby building or lost and found by the time they checked into the pit stop (if not, it may have still been sitting there.) Mallory was right to try and send someone back to grab it or to just move on.
I can't say I'm disappointed though and hope Joey/Meghan and John/Jess get out of the back of pack and take advantage of avoiding elimination.
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PS: Margie and Luke owning most part of this leg and barely getting any screen time. They whored the screen time out of Cowboys on Leg 1 as they were leading throughout.
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PS: Margie and Luke owning most part of this leg and barely getting any screen time. They whored the screen time out of Cowboys on Leg 1 as they were leading throughout.
HAHAHAHA :funny: :funny: I Lol'd quite a bit at that and I don't even know why :lol: - But yes, I totally agree, and for the 2nd episode in a row I think the Globes got the least screen time, but from the promo I think that'll all change for Leg 3.
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I think production would have tried to bring the bag with them. Like they did when Steve & Allie forgot their bags in the Seychelles in season 16. They got their bags back once they were eliminated.
Production NEVER interferes with the race as it happens. They cannot. That is why so many teams have had miserable things happen.
audio file where Phil discusses this:
https://soundcloud.com/siriusxmentertainment/phil-keoghan-from-the-amazing?in=siriusxmentertainment/sets/entertainment-weekly-radio-on
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Production NEVER interferes with the race as it happens. They cannot. That is why so many teams have had miserable things happen.
I still think that, assuming Mark & Mallory had left their bag. Then once they had reached the Pit Stop production could pick up the bag and carry it with them. Production could then give the bag back to Mark once he is eliminated or the race is over. I wouldn't count that as interfering with the race. And don't forget that this is exactly what happened to Steve & Allie.
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OMG, finally was able to watch this. i had to be in the wilderness of east java (indonesia) last 5 days, as my study tour. the good thing is i only have to wait for 2 days for the next episode ( waiting for a whole weak for each episodes feels like hell)
this episode is so much better than the premiere. although the tasks are not very difficult, but it scrambles the placement of the teams. i would want to have not very difficult but non linear task instead of very difficult but also very linear. i always love china legs and it's one of those very good china legs i think. the first leg of this season and shanghai leg in season 21 just sucked completely. season 18 leg 5 in kunming just completely rocked
the Roadblock was actually quite challenging physically and mentally. all the teams are discouraged by the instruction manual written in chinese.
the detours are also great. i guessed the shuttlecock would be so much harder when you play your own. moreover, it also changes the placement of teams
i'm not a fan of brenchel, but i'm glad they finally won, although i would have prefered margie and luke to win it, i loved seeing margie dealing with "building" or "putting something together" she always excels on those sector. moreover, margie and luke always had good legs in China
i was excited seeing jennifer's struggle in getting the express pass. meghan helping john was interesting, but i wouldn't do that if i were her. i'm glad that Flight time and Big easy do not really talk much during the race. i just want them to shut up the whole amazing race. they didn't bring significant effect to the race. despite my hate towards cowboys, they did something significant and contributed towards the excitement rating of the race
TBH, i don't mind seeing Mark and Mallory leaving (don't judge me LOL) since the very first episode, they were seen very incompatible, i wouldn't like them running a long race while holding grudges due to their differences and seeing them mocking each other.
overall, i love this episode, it's been a long time since i don't see a very Thrilling China legs. i wish all legs were pretty much like this.
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Production NEVER interferes with the race as it happens. They cannot. That is why so many teams have had miserable things happen.
I still think that, assuming Mark & Mallory had left their bag. Then once they had reached the Pit Stop production could pick up the bag and carry it with them. Production could then give the bag back to Mark once he is eliminated or the race is over. I wouldn't count that as interfering with the race. And don't forget that this is exactly what happened to Steve & Allie.
That is a possibility, but NOT a guarantee. Others have lost/left items that were not returned. Interesting to wonder if a camera crew was stationed by the bag though, in addition to the team's own.
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Production NEVER interferes with the race as it happens. They cannot. That is why so many teams have had miserable things happen.
I still think that, assuming Mark & Mallory had left their bag. Then once they had reached the Pit Stop production could pick up the bag and carry it with them. Production could then give the bag back to Mark once he is eliminated or the race is over. I wouldn't count that as interfering with the race. And don't forget that this is exactly what happened to Steve & Allie.
That is a possibility, but NOT a guarantee. Others have lost/left items that were not returned. Interesting to wonder if a camera crew was stationed by the bag though, in addition to the team's own.
That I agree with. They could pick it up but don't have to. And they may very well not have the manpower to do it.
Regarding the camera crew. I suspect that some of the shots of forgotten items, like Kaylanis passport or Dallas fannypack, are staged after the fact. I mean that the event happened but if the camera failed to film it they can recreate it afterwards. If the shot is small enough then this can be done without involving the racers.
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Found something, a bit too late though
https://twitter.com/jenwayne/status/441581295710113793
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Found something, a bit too late though
https://twitter.com/jenwayne/status/441581295710113793
Nice!
Jennifer Wayne@jenwayne ·
@94_Canuck a few teams got time credit because of production, so we got 9th, but ended up technically leaving last.
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Found something, a bit too late though
https://twitter.com/jenwayne/status/441581295710113793
Nice!
Jennifer Wayne@jenwayne ·
@94_Canuck a few teams got time credit because of production, so we got 9th, but ended up technically leaving last.
I don't think we've ever encountered a time credit since season 2 if I remember correctly.
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Every season has piles of them...whether we see them or not is another story!
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I think we have seen them in a way that changed the order of departure a few times, but I don't track them for my team average placements. It's much harder to detect with times of departures that don't affect the order, but they are frequent from what I've understood. With so many teams arriving so close to each other at the pitstop for leg 2, it's possible we'll see this again this week as a result.