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Title: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on October 27, 2008, 09:41:37 PM
11/06   Survivor: Gabon -- Earth's Last Eden - Apple in the Garden of Eden
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on October 30, 2008, 08:58:50 PM
Next time on Survivor:

JP: theres a new leader in Africa
Randy: roarrrr
JP: and they call him...... Randy
Randy: I am king of Gabon, sorry, but I rule. This ocean, its mine. All the Fang and Kota members, they know the power is shifting. I'm king! Cheers.

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Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on October 30, 2008, 09:07:57 PM
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Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on October 30, 2008, 11:26:56 PM
Next on Survivor: Gabon
The Apple in the Garden of Eden
The tribes come together for a surfside feast with a tempting twist.
The castaways decide to make a shocking sacrifice that many regret.
One castaway takes the game into his own hands and lets the power go to his head.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on October 31, 2008, 10:37:24 AM
From JP's EW blog (http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/10/jeff-probst-b-3.html), seems hes rooting for Fang plus Randy & Corrine ........

Matty, Matty, Matty. He's like a Billy Joel song. Wearing his heart on his sleeve. He must stay in this game a long time. Along with Kenny, Crystal, Corrine, Randy, and Sugar.

next week – we finally pull one over on this group of Survivors. A small victory, but it felt so good that I want to brag about it early. I think you'll love it and you will shake your head in amazement at the "never happened before" moment that occurs as a result.

Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on October 31, 2008, 01:29:18 PM
The castaways decide to make a shocking sacrifice that many regret.

I read an idea at sucks and like it, Immunity challenge endurance, choose feast or chance for Immunity and the regret is that someone that chose feast, thinking they are safe, later regrets it and is voted off
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: s1 on October 31, 2008, 01:46:50 PM
puddin - what if it was an all or nothing option.  Everyone eats or everyone competes.  We've seen all the wine flowing on the beach . . . could be interesting
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on October 31, 2008, 02:18:16 PM
Maybe something to do with the surprise twist that JP menions in his blog? Something that hasn't been done before?
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on October 31, 2008, 10:43:05 PM
preview

Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on October 31, 2008, 11:18:09 PM
OMG its not a merge its a swap!
thanks to MayanSun survivorfever  (http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/sreply/3649442/t/S17-Week-7-Solving-Riddles.html)

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Tribal Swap !!!!!!!!!!

Episode Press Images - small ones for now

All captioned Episode 8

Fang: Sugar, Charlie Corinne, Matty + Randy or Crystal

Kota: Kenny, Marcus Susie, Bob + Randy or Crystal

Corinne has been swapped to Fang
 
Charlie with Corinne

 Kenny = Kota

 
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Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: bee1233 on November 01, 2008, 12:06:11 AM
Wow that would be a big surprise.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: Belle Book on November 01, 2008, 03:40:16 PM
The Onion Alliance can't be too happy with that turn of events!

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 01, 2008, 06:32:48 PM
Well that answers the question on Crystal

Voiceover: The Survivors think its a merge, they think they know the game. But whats in this box will shock everyone. New Survivor CBS Sunday.

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Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 01, 2008, 07:21:13 PM
small pic in pics

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Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: RealityFreakWill on November 01, 2008, 08:00:24 PM
I bet Charlie is heartbroken being separated from Marcus.  :'(
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 01, 2008, 08:08:17 PM
promo/commercial thanks to survivorphoenix


Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 01, 2008, 08:12:20 PM
So it appears Randy is on Fang! I now have a favorite tribe! FANG!! minus Crystal! :yess:
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: RealityFreakWill on November 01, 2008, 08:20:14 PM
Did I get this right....

New Fang:

Charlie
Corrine
Matty
Randy
Sugar

New Kota:
Marcus
Bob
Susie
Crystal
Kenny
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 01, 2008, 10:13:30 PM
looks right to me Will :)
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: RealityFreakWill on November 01, 2008, 11:00:45 PM
Here's is what I'm thinking will happen....

Kota loses IC, Susie gets voted off (new tribes will only last for one episode)

Episode 9, final 9 will merge, since 7 will be jury and then have F2

Charlie will be stoked to be reunited with Marcus again, LOL
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 02, 2008, 12:27:54 AM
Marcus Bob Susie have the numbers, makes more sense for them to take one of old Fang out no? Same for NuFang. Susie is expendable at anytime, why not keep her for a vote?
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: RealityFreakWill on November 02, 2008, 12:42:09 AM
Marcus Bob Susie have the numbers, makes more sense for them to take one of old Fang out no? Same for NuFang. Susie is expendable at anytime, why not keep her for a vote?

Very true, Puddin...didn't think of that....then I predict Crystal's toast!
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: s1 on November 02, 2008, 08:36:55 AM
If Kota goes to TC it could be interesting.  Crystal/Kenny will definitely vote together and so will Marcus/Bob.  This leaves Susie as the swing vote.  She has said she didn't like the people at old Fang - Crystal/Kenny, but then she was almost voted out by nuKota at the last TC.  Will she jump back to Fang and vote out Marcus/Bob or stay with nuKota and vote out Crystal???

If Fang goes to TC  it doesn't bode well for Matty.  Randy the king will see him as a future threat (which he is) and oust him from his kingdom.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: Texan on November 02, 2008, 12:05:50 PM
I see Randy not competing for immunity, the previews show him as saying he is King.  Would the boot Randy over Matty?  Sugar has the HI, no way Matty is sitting out or Corinne or Charlie.    Susie did not like the other fang, but will she know that merge will still be coming soon and take out a strong competitor in Marcus?  Remember she said Corinne was weak not Bob.

Sugar was not high on the totem pole at Kota and they did keep sending her to exile. Will she bond with these people?  She was not close to matty.  will Matty be stupid enough to tell them Sugar has the idol?
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 02, 2008, 12:52:44 PM
JP on the HII play fwiw

Exile:
The biggest twist of Survivor: Gabon involves Exile (formerly Exile Island). "When you go to Exile this time you can either get a clue that will help you find the hidden immunity idol, or you can get 'instant comfort' - a nice thing to sleep on, some food, some fruit," explains host Jeff Probst. "Depending upon the time, we'll make the temptation bigger and bigger. The idea was to see if anybody would be dumb enough to choose comfort over the only thing that guarantees you to stick in the game, which is immunity." Okay, did it work? "By the time this season is over, you can make the case that maybe this is the dumbest team when it comes to idol play."


Hidden Idols:
The show's addition of a hidden immunity idol (which Probst describes as "one of the best inventions we've ever come up with") has also prompted some of the game's most ingenious strategic moves. In this respect, Probst promises that viewers can expect more of the same from Survivor: Gabon – Earth's Last Eden. "This season, the idols get played in a way they’ve never been played before," he reveals. "It astounded me what happened this time. This has never happened. It's that power of the idol that confuses everybody. Nobody's quite sure how to handle it. It gets to a point where it's almost too much power and it does you in. I find that fascinating. This is the one thing that can keep you safe in the game and yet – if you're not careful – it’s the thing that will get you voted out the fastest.'

http://www.survivorfever.net/s17_spoilers.html
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: s1 on November 02, 2008, 01:09:56 PM
Is it possible that if Sugar had picked clue over comfort everytime she could have had 5 immunity idols now?  Has it ever been said there was only 1 HII available that goes back into play after it gets played at TC.

I thought Kota kept sending Sugar to EI to help her find the HII . . . so she would be safe at TC . . . did I misread their intent???
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 02, 2008, 01:45:08 PM
Last episode Kota thought Dan might have the HII, I know that doesn't answer your question s1.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: Texan on November 02, 2008, 03:27:34 PM
I think they thought she was clueless.  Then kept sending her so no one else could try.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: kitkaat on November 02, 2008, 08:45:42 PM
They kept sending her so no one else could have the chance. With another swap it sure mixes up the game. I don't thin Susie is going anywhere. She is definetly a swing vote, and if anything she is going to go with Kenny and Crystal over Marcus and Bob. They were ready to get rid of her last tribal, and i doubt she is going to forget that. 
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 02, 2008, 09:59:52 PM
Yeah Marcus could seriously be in trouble, I would laugh if he goes.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 03, 2008, 12:28:47 PM
thanks again to survivorphoenix

Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 03, 2008, 12:32:42 PM
larger press photos thanks to survivorphoenix  (http://resources.survivorphoenix.com/graphics/gallery/S17E08Press).
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 03, 2008, 12:33:35 PM
........
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: RealityFreakWill on November 03, 2008, 12:47:49 PM
thanks again to survivorphoenix


What did Marcus say in the confessional clip of this video?
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 03, 2008, 01:03:43 PM
He says "this is me crumpling up my play book .., throwing it out the window."
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: RealityFreakWill on November 03, 2008, 01:08:07 PM
He says "this is me crumpling up my play book .., throwing it out the window."

Thanks, Puddin! I figured it was something like that.  Judging from the new pictures, there are many unhappy campers there after the tribal swap. I can't wait to watch the episode on Thursday! Will be interesting to see who is the next victim.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 03, 2008, 01:09:55 PM
I'm actually looking forward to this episode as well, something I thought I might not after Ace's boot.

No press release yet but, this from tvguide

Episode Detail: The Apple in the Garden of Eden - Survivor: Gabon---Earth's Last Eden
The two tribes come together for a feast. They are offered a tempting decision and make a surprising sacrifice that many soon regret; and Randy lets his newfound power go to his head. At tribal council, another castaway is voted out of the game.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: Belle Book on November 03, 2008, 06:40:38 PM
I think Fang goes to Tribal Council ... again.  And in that case, bye-bye Matty.  Poor guy -- he just couldn't get a single break.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: bee1233 on November 03, 2008, 07:18:27 PM
Remember Kota now has crystal, kenny and susie who have not done well at challenges.  It might be time for Fang to win something.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: kitkaat on November 03, 2008, 11:15:43 PM
So they must choose a feast or something and then because they chose the feast they all get mixed up again instead of merging. I don't know, but i'm really excited for thursday!
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: Texan on November 04, 2008, 12:27:19 PM
Okay could the pic of the 4 fang be a telling photo?  They are not happy and we have seen previews of Randy saying he is the king.  remember Ace thought he was in control too.  Maybe they boot randy for being so obnious.  I would think the young ones would want Matt over Randy and we know Sugar hates him.  Maybe Fang throws the challenge to save Marcus?  Sugar could use her idol to save her or Matty.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 04, 2008, 01:09:47 PM
press release:

THE TRIBES COME TOGETHER FOR A SURF-SIDE FEAST WITH A TEMPTING TWIST AND THEY MAKE A SHOCKING SACRIFICE THAT MANY REGRET,
ON "SURVIVOR GABON – EARTH'S LAST EDEN," THURSDAY, NOV. 6

"The Apple In The Garden Of Eden" — After one power drunk castaway decides to take the game into their own hands, the tribes are faced with a brutal endurance challenge that comes down to a nail-biting showdown, on SURVIVOR: GABON — EARTH'S LAST EDEN, Thursday, Nov. 6 (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 04, 2008, 04:00:59 PM
New Fang:      Charlie, Corinne, Matty, Randy, Sugar

New Kota:      Bob, Crystal, Ken, Marcus, Susie

 
 
Charlie Herschel
 Charlie Herschel - Fang Tribe (swapped)
For Boot:
- lawyer (if made known to others)
- Med Profile

Against Boot:
- athletic (marathoner)
- personable, good social skills
- weight loss
- Kota MySpace friend list (MySpace)
- Onion alliance (Marcus/Charlie/Corinne+Bob)
- flirted w/Marcus(E1-E2)
- Low Facetime
- Onion alliance members survive to Jury (Paloma interview implication; BuddyTV)

Vulnerability: Safe
 

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Corinne Kaplan


 Corinne Kaplan - Fang Tribe (swapped)
For Boot:
- 'playa'
- Kota MySpace friend list (MySpace)

Against Boot:
- Onion alliance (Marcus/Charlie/Corinne+Bob)
- flirted w/Marcus(E1-2)
- Low Profile
- strategic confessionals
- Onion alliance members survive to Jury (Paloma interview implication; BuddyTV)
- Med-Low Facetime

Vulnerability: Safe
 

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Matty Whitmore
 
 Matty Whitmore - Fang Tribe
For Boot:
- trustfund baby (if made known to others)
- Med-High Facetime
- Med Profile
- physical threat target if Randy stays aligned with Corinne and Charlie

Against Boot:
- athletic (surfer/trainer)
- personable
- JP favorite(mentioned several times)
- Highlighted in Toronto Metro commuter ad (speedyforme)
- good performance in RC3/IC3/IC4/RC6/IC6

Vulnerability: Very Vulnerable
 

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Randy Bailey
 
 Randy Bailey - Fang Tribe (swapped twice)
For Boot:
- aggressive personality
- mouthy
- loner
- Med-High Facetime
- Med-High Profile
- target if Corinne, Charlie align with Sugar

Against Boot:
- strong
- possibly makes FV (JP interview)
- multiple strategic confessionals
- good performance in IC4/IC5
- bonded w/NuKota majority

Vulnerability: Vulnerable
 

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Jessica "Sugar" Smith
 
 Jessica "Sugar" Smith - Fang Tribe
For Boot:
- poor camp worker
- weak in chals
- actress (if made known to others)
- High Facetime
- Med-High Profile

Against Boot:
- good social skills
- Kota MySpace friend list (MySpace)
- has HI

Vulnerability: Safe
 

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Bob Crowley
 
 Bob Crowley - Kota Tribe
For Boot:
- older cast
- not in Kota MySpace friend list (MySpace)

Against Boot:
- outdoor skills
- tribal pick'em leader
- good camp worker
- Onion alliance 4th wheel (Marcus/Charlie/Corinne)
- Low Facetime
- Med-Low Profile

Vulnerability: Safe
 

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Crystal Cox
 
 Crystal Cox - Kota Tribe  (swapped)

For Boot:
- Olympic Gold Medal winner (if made known to others; note: Dan knows)
- aggressive personality
- Med-High Facetime
- Med Profile
- target if Susie aligns with Marcus/Bob

Against Boot:
- athletic (Olympian)
- strong
- aligned w/Ken

Vulnerability: Very Vulnerable 

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Ken Hoang
 
 Ken Hoang - Kota Tribe (swapped)
For Boot:
- Med-High Facetime
- Med Profile
- target if Susie aligns with Marcus/Bob

Against Boot:
- gamer skills
- aligned w/Crystal
- good performance in IC3
- strategic confessional
- good performance in IC6

Vulnerability: Safe
 

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Marcus Lehman
 
 Marcus Lehman - Kota Tribe
For Boot:
- doctor
- target if Susie flips to Ken/Crystal

Against Boot:
- athletic
- strong (tennis player)
- personable
- Kota MySpace friend list (MySpace)
- Onion alliance (Marcus/Charlie/Corinne+Bob)
- highlighted in Toronto Metro commuter ad (speedyforme)
- Onion alliance members survive to Jury (Paloma interview implication; BuddyTV)
- good performance in IC4/IC6
- Med-Low Profile

Vulnerability: Very Vulnerable
 

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Susie Smith
 
 Susie Smith - Kota Tribe (swapped)
For Boot:
- poor performances in chals
- got to know Kelly (realityblurred)
- poor performance in IC3

Against Boot:
- significant weight loss
- UTR Facetime
- UTR Profile
- good camp worker

Vulnerability: Vulnerable
 

http://www.survivorfever.com/s17_bootsheet.html
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: Belle Book on November 04, 2008, 07:06:49 PM
If Susie got to know Kelly, maybe she's the next one to go.  Unlikely but possible.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 04, 2008, 07:55:03 PM
If Susie got to know Kelly, maybe she's the next one to go.  Unlikely but possible.

Belle Book

I read somewhere at sucks that the Kelly interview was a bogus/fake Kelly so anything about her and Susie getting to know each other is no longer a good spoiler.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: kitkaat on November 04, 2008, 10:55:38 PM
Charlie,Corinne,Matty,Randy & Sugar: Randy is completely going to annoy people and i could see this making him very vulnerable. COrinne and Charlie wil lfor sure stay together. Matty and Sugar never did get along, so they won't allign. Sugar with the immunity idol will be safe on this first vote because there isn't enough numbers to risk voting her out and having her use the idol. Hopefully this tribe won't even have to go to tribal.

Bob,Crystal,Ken,Marcus & Susie: Clearly this is all going to be on Susie. Either those four will unite and vote her out, or she will join Bob & Marcus, or Ken & Crystal. The rumor is that the "onion" alliance makes it to the merge,(minus Jacqie) so assumingly she makes the choice and votes off Crystal.

Then hopefully we will have a merge of 9 contestants.  With that the onion alliance of Marcus, Charlie,Corinne and Randy the 5th Bob, they should be able to take it till the end. Hopefully, Randy will switch it up and go with the others to get rid of Marcus, Corinne and Charlie because they are so boring.... i really just want Kenny & Sugar to make it till the end  :hearts:
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 05, 2008, 12:54:28 AM
Matty for the title?

thanks again to survivorphoenix

Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 05, 2008, 03:22:13 PM
 :jumpy: Jeff Probst preview when ready, its a rough copy but better than nothing

Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 05, 2008, 05:21:11 PM
Sweet! survivorfever transcribed and there are screencaps for Jeffs preview as well~
http://www.survivorfever.com/vc_s17_ep8_jp_preview.html


Survivor: Gabon Episode 8 Jeff Probst Preview Video Captures

Airdate:  11.05.08

 

Promo Transcript:

Jeff Probst:   One of the hardest things on this show for us to do is to outfox the Survivors.  We've done so many twists they predict them all.  Every so often we get lucky that's what happens this episode.  They think a merge is coming.  They may be wrong, for once they actually may be wrong.

Charlie (confessional):  I thought there were going to be 10 new buffs in the box and that we were going to be a merged tribe.  I just never in a million years predicted it.

Randy:  The game has changed once again, enjoy the adventure.

Jeff Probst:  There's also one of the most interesting things that's ever happened with an immunity idol happens in this episode and it will leave you scratching your head much the same way you scratched your head when Erik gave up immunity in last season's Survivor, Fans Vs. Favorites.  And a big theme begins to emerge and this is one that's going to carry out for the rest of the season and it's good versus bad.  There are some people that decide, "you know what, we are good people and one of us should win, they're bad people and they shouldn't."  That is a battle that will play out now, the bad, mean, ugly people versus the pretty, nice, good people.  Who do you want to win?

Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 05, 2008, 05:29:51 PM
a better copy of the preview, when ready ..

 
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: Belle Book on November 05, 2008, 06:07:20 PM
Well, so much for Kelly getting to know Susie.

If Fang goes to Tribal Council, bye-bye Matty.  If Kota goes to Tribal Council, I don't think Susie will align with Crystal & Ken, so bye-bye Crystal.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: Alan on November 06, 2008, 11:49:45 AM
Quote from Survivor Sucks, foulmouthedleon: I've got a little inside info. on what goes down tonight (if it is indeed tonight). Trust me, once that box is open, prepare to laugh your collective asses off.

Anyway on Jeff's preview, does Sugar really give up the idol? :duno:

Gonna be a great episode! Can't wait! ;)
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: TKM809 on November 06, 2008, 12:17:10 PM
Well, so much for Kelly getting to know Susie.

If Fang goes to Tribal Council, bye-bye Matty.  If Kota goes to Tribal Council, I don't think Susie will align with Crystal & Ken, so bye-bye Crystal.

Belle Book




iTA with you if fang go to TC Matty is a goner IDA with you one Crystal i do think Susie will align with Crystal & Ken either Bob or Marcus will be voted out if they go to TC thats JMHO will see tonight
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 06, 2008, 01:06:14 PM
Susie, Matty, Randy and Dan aligned themselves and were going to get rid of GC, Crystal and Kenny. Although it is possible for Sue to align herself with the fang memebers I can see her going with Bob and Marcus!
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 01:19:48 PM
I'll go with Sugar giving Matty the HII and Sugar gets the boot.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: RealityFreakWill on November 06, 2008, 01:37:31 PM
I'll take a stab at predicting tonights show

Kota wins IC (I think Charlie and Corinne purposely throws the comp in order to save Marcus)

Due to Randy's behavior, I think he gets the boot

Does the other sites have any boot predictions for tonight?
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 01:42:55 PM
Not yet Will but I'll look around.

http://www.survivorfever.net/s17_predictions.html
http://www.acmebraintrust.com/
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 01:44:08 PM
If your good at clues check out survivorphoenix. Mouse over the pictures for clues :)

http://resources.survivorphoenix.com/postnuke/html/index.php
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 01:48:27 PM
Messhall picks

MESS GUT
Immunity: KOTA
Boot: SUGAR
http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/41031
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: Alan on November 06, 2008, 01:54:55 PM
RTVW SOTS(Fun speculation), http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID2/7069.shtml

Immunity:Kota
Boot:Matty
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: Rorys clan on November 06, 2008, 02:26:28 PM
Messhall picks

MESS GUT
Immunity: KOTA
Boot: SUGAR
http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/41031

What's with the scene of Randy digging in the sand? Is that the idol? :duno:
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 02:28:05 PM
ACME
Our picks for the Survivor: Gabon November 6 Episode  7 8 are:


Reward: Our reward is getting to watch the Castaways get drunk and stupid at their fake merge feast.
Exile: Nobody, but when the Fangs get tired of "King Randy" they'll wish they had been exiled.
Immunity: The curse of Fang continues... New! Improved! Kota! wins again.
Boot: A palace coup deposes King Randy
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: RealityFreakWill on November 06, 2008, 02:36:25 PM
ACME
Our picks for the Survivor: Gabon November 6 Episode  7 8 are:


Reward: Our reward is getting to watch the Castaways get drunk and stupid at their fake merge feast.
Exile: Nobody, but when the Fangs get tired of "King Randy" they'll wish they had been exiled.
Immunity: The curse of Fang continues... New! Improved! Kota! wins again.
Boot: A palace coup deposes King Randy

I'll go with this one.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 02:37:55 PM
All I know is I can't wait to see this episode!
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: s1 on November 06, 2008, 03:07:36 PM
Am I seeing something wrong in that last clip puddin posted?  About 21 seconds in the survivors are standing on the beach in 2 groups still with Jeff talking to them.  There appears to be 7 survivors in each group.  There are only 10 remaining survivors . . .  ???
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 03:26:15 PM
It's a recycled clip of the first swap s1.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: s1 on November 06, 2008, 03:38:56 PM
Thanks puddin, the eyes aren't what they used to be and I couldn't make out who was in the clip.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 04:01:56 PM
Thanks puddin, the eyes aren't what they used to be and I couldn't make out who was in the clip.
I have that problem too s1 :D.

Well survivorfever isn't up yet but I see Blindfreddy (http://www.survivorfever.net/s17_predictions_blindfreddy.html) picked Sugar

and zinc  (http://www.survivorfever.net/s17_predictions_zinc.html) picks Sugar
Predictions:

- The Producers swap around the teams once again.
- Marcus, Matty, and Sugar have the most to lose from this twist.
- Crystal, Ken, and Susie have the most to gain from this twist.
- KOTA wins IC.
- Sugar is TC victim.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 06:45:15 PM
Episode 8
RC:  None
IC:  Kota
Boot:  Sugar
http://www.survivorfever.net/s17_predictions.html
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:04:03 PM
Kota camp , night time.
Randy first conf.
Kota calling out Susie for voting for Corrine last week.
Susie feels that right now shes in with the 6 Kota alliance but she feels she has the power.

credits roll




Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:10:53 PM
Moon
Fang camp
talking about the last TC
Matty conf, glad he stuck to his promise to Ace
Sugar trusts Kenny way more than Ace
Matty concerned that Crystal is gunning for him, prays for a merge ..tomorrow.
Sugar: you guys cannot tell them I have the HII
Crystal hoping the merge will crack Kota

Kota camp
Corrine bitching to Marcus, wants revenge on Susie.

Treemail! Brand new tribe brand new game
they think its a merge , moving to the beach .. they are Kota 6 to the end says Randy

Tribes come together on the beach
endless amounts of food
Box, open after feast
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:11:27 PM
oh they are making me hungry!
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:16:48 PM
under a bowl Kenny sees a HII clue
Charlie points it out
Keep it secret or share it, Kenny lost his chance
Clue tells where to find it
Randy asks who wants it? its over my shoulder
Randy: I don't need no stinking idol
Randy digs it up
sets it on the table says in conf hes king of Gabon
Randy announces he does not want it
Matty: apple in the garden of Eden
everyone afraid to claim it
they tie it to a bottle and set it afloat! lol!
Randy again says he is the president, king of Gabon!
HII set afloat, group effort
Marcus says they are all stupid, he got 1o people to throw away the HII
Feast over
Box open
pick stones, 2 new tribes (see above)
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:19:08 PM
Marcus banking on Kotas on both tribes, does not need the HII
Susie thinks she has the power

New Fang:  Sugar, Matty, Randy, Corinne, Charlie

New Kota: Crystal, Marcus, Bob, Susie, Ken
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:28:52 PM
NuKota camp
 Bob welcomes Crystal and Kenny
Kenny in conf: only has Crystal
Marcus finds out that Crystal is a cousin of one of his best friends
Marcus to Crystal: I wan to keep good people around
Crystal and Marcus make a pact not to write each other names down
Crystal in conf: don't trust me

Nu Fang
Sugar knew it would happen
Charlie feels confident former Kota will stick together up 3 people
They know Sugar has the HII
Corrine & Charlie want Matty gone

Matty guilt tripping Sugar for voting Ace out that Kenny is the reak bad guy
Sugar feels duped by Crystal and Kenny, cries, made a bigmistake
Matty and Sugar make a pact to help eacj other

Kota camp
Marcus in conf says Susie makes him nervous
Marcus is paranoid
Susie wants to be in the top 3 says she has the power to cut Marcus's head off
commercial
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:35:09 PM
NuFang treemail

Randy Charlie Corrine whispering about taking Matty out, Sugar has HII or might have it.

Matty in conf very concerned


challenge!!

Matty feels trapped in the ghetto, only original Fang

endurance challenge

last person left standing wins immunity for their entire tribe

Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:36:10 PM
after 1 second Crystal is out

Sugar out after 10 seconds

Susie out, Kota down to 3

Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:36:25 PM
Randy is out, Corrine is out
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:36:39 PM
Kenny is out
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:37:50 PM
Marcus is out!
Bob fighting for Kota
Matty and Charlie fighting

Charlie is out

show down

Matty and Bob
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:39:17 PM
Matty getting cocky and laughing
Jeff tells him to shut up and concentrate

Matty in trouble!

BOB drops the pole! MATTY wins IC for his tribe! oh BOY!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:40:00 PM
Randy in conf says its good to win but doesn't matter Matty was going anyway
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:41:10 PM
Hah! I love their are no out in the open spoilers this season! I will LOL if Marcus gets voted out!
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:49:26 PM
Kota camp .. Marcus conf Kenny or Crystal going home, would prefer Kenny and tells Crystal that shes now part of Kota 6 replacing Susie.
Crystal in conf, not pleased at all, hes a schemer
Marcus and Susie, she says take Crystal out
Marcus convinces Susie its Ken tonight
Kenny to Crystal ..does not want him to vote Marcus
Crystal to Susie, I'll write Marcus's name down hes a liar, Corrine doesn't like you
......
Susie not comf voting Marcus out

Susie holds the power!!
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:52:45 PM
TC
Marcus us cocky
Kenny gives him hell for wanting to pick old Fang out
Susie has made her decision is okay with it

we see Marcus vote Ken
Crystal vote Marcus, not the Kota God
Bob votes Ken
Ken votes Marcus, lol
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:53:56 PM
tally the votes

votes
Marcus
Ken
Ken
Marcus
TIED
VOTED OFFFFFFFF MARCUS  :wohoo:
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:54:37 PM
Ba bye cocky Marcus  :funny:  :hoot: :elvis: :lolmao:
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: michael on November 06, 2008, 07:55:05 PM
LMAO
i love crystal and ken and their  constant flipping the votes.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:57:25 PM
haha, good for Susie! she really did have the power! Girl power!!
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:58:23 PM
screen caps later for next week
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: michael on November 06, 2008, 07:58:46 PM
haha, good for Susie! she really did have the power! Girl power!!

best final three IMO, would be: Kenny/Crystal/Susie lol...
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:58:47 PM
Oh and Marcus is the first juror
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 07:59:22 PM
haha, good for Susie! she really did have the power! Girl power!!

best final three IMO, would be: Kenny/Crystal/Susie lol...
Well you can keep Crystal, she still annoys me, lol
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: michael on November 06, 2008, 08:00:44 PM
she only annoyed me up until last week haha

yay, 100 posts to 5000!
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 08:02:24 PM
So many people thought Marcus would win Survivor thats why I am glad he is gone, hes just so boring.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: bee1233 on November 06, 2008, 08:04:39 PM
crystal and randy annoy me
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: patlini on November 06, 2008, 09:15:01 PM
I have to hand it to survivor each season they deliver

that was an awesome episode - watched TC about  5 times and made hubby sit through it

I love a blindside as much as JB

pretty obvious who he is rooting for


Randy must go next

and i love Corrine's reaction at her beloved marcus being gone
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: Texan on November 06, 2008, 09:31:07 PM
ARRGG I had Marcus going then listened to spoilers... should have known... now must go watch the show I just got back from seeing BOLT.  We saw it as a premeir.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 09:38:06 PM
Randy must go but my oh my Corrine is just as cocky. I bet they are setting Corrine and Susie up so that we see Susie beat Corrine at something in a future challenge.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: michael on November 06, 2008, 09:39:07 PM
Randy must go but my oh my Corrine is just as cocky. I bet they are setting Corrine and Susie up so that we see Susie beat Corrine at something in a future challenge.

I hateeee Randy but Corrine is sort of hot so I'm letting her cockiness slide....but I would love to see some SUSIEowange on corrine.  :lol:
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 09:41:27 PM
Randy must go but my oh my Corrine is just as cocky. I bet they are setting Corrine and Susie up so that we see Susie beat Corrine at something in a future challenge.

I hateeee Randy but Corrine is sort of hot so I'm letting her cockiness slide....but I would love to see some SUSIEowange on corrine.  :lol:
Well I'm not a Susie fan but some whoop ass SUSIEowange would be  :jam:
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: michael on November 06, 2008, 09:49:47 PM
LOL, due to the crystalownage tonight I feel that this should be posted:

Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: patlini on November 06, 2008, 10:11:30 PM
i liked crystal tonight, she was funny
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: kitkaat on November 06, 2008, 10:56:58 PM
I am so over Marcus, Corinne, Bob, Charlie and Randy. I really thought Susie was going to go with them... I actaully screamed for joy when Susie did not. people may think Susie is not smart or whatever but she is awesome! The smug look on Marcus and Bobs face was hilarious. I freaking love blindsides. Basically, its Kenny, Crystal,Sugar,Susie and Matty till the end for me! Its so weird this season how my opinion has changed through out the season.
By the way, Sugar so should have grabbed that idol .She then would have had two. Who cares if they know you have it. I can't beleive none of them grabbed it.
I also think its hilarious that so many people had Marcus pegged as the winner. I love Survivor.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: michael on November 06, 2008, 10:59:59 PM
I love it to kitkaat -- Survivor is the only reality show I started watching from it's FIRST season in 2000....i was TEN YEARS OLD lol! My entire family used to watch it but I'm now the only one left that watches it  :lol:
I really like Crystal, Ken, Sugar, and Matty -- I hope one of them win....oh and after tonight I wouldn't mind seeing Susie win...

I can't wait to see the look on Charlies face when he sees that Marcus was voted out  :lol: :yess:
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: kitkaat on November 06, 2008, 11:03:38 PM
ARRGG I had Marcus going then listened to spoilers... should have known... now must go watch the show I just got back from seeing BOLT.  We saw it as a premeir.


haha. Just wait till we get to see Charlies reaction. He will be bawling. He isn't as bad as Corinne, randy and Marcus, but he is pretty boringly horrible. haha
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: Texan on November 07, 2008, 09:38:03 AM
Okay how stupid were they to get rid of the idol!  I would have said whatever it gets me another week.  OOOHH Corrine is such a b#@##.  ANd next week when she finds out marcus is gone she will get the rep that we have been waiting for.  I hope Randy in his cocky I do not need the idol gets booted!!!  Corrine's we are not clalign it fAng as we do not like that we call if FONG and even corrected Jeff after the IC.

Sugar thinks Kenny tricked her, I hope they can talk soon.  I would love for Sugar, Kenny, Matty and crystal to get far.  yeah crystal has a chip on her shoulder, if i ws not eating  I would get a total b@##@#

One other note... Marcus is the first jury that must mean final 3 as there were 10 left last night.  And poor marcus I do nto forget.  You were out played DUDE and your alliance was not smart enough to want to throw the challenge.  Guess you should have grabbed the idol.
Title: Re: EP8: Apple in the Garden of Eden
Post by: kitkaat on November 07, 2008, 01:06:15 PM
I thought that was the funniest thing, how Marcus was the first one to want to throw the idol away and he thought he was so smart snd had it all figured out.
I also can't wait till Corinnes true colors come out. I really can't believe how much her and Randy hate Susie. Susie may be quiet and not look like she knows how to play the game, but i think she is finally starting to get it. Who really wants to settle for sixth?