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Archive => RFF Archived Boards => The Amazing Race 20 Spoilers => Topic started by: georgiapeach on May 05, 2012, 12:24:34 AM
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As most of you know, Bill Spencer is the talented photographer who was in just the right place at just the right time to catch all of the TAR 20 Waterfront Towers action!
Our Michael first reached out and made contact with Bill. Thanks to Michael, Bill agreed to very generously share with RFF the rest of his photographs to examine and discuss. One of the NICEST people ever!
So HUGE KUDOS for Michael for initiating and following through on this, without his input we would not have this great treasure to see.
And a very special HUGE THANKS to Bill for lending RFF all these to enjoy!
The ones you will see below are the best of the best, a grouping of some of Bill's and our favorites, the ones that best tell the story of the day.
TexasLady has done a phenomenal job of collating and watermarking all of these in order to protect Bill's copyright. This was a big and labor intensive job! She gets ALL of the credit for figuring out a way for us all to be able to see and appreciate these HUGE files! Additionally, becaue due to RFF's formatting the exif data is lost on upload, she has also made the fabulous Photo Time line you will see below!!
So :ty to Michael for the foresight to reach out to Bill!
And :tu to Bill for trusting us with these incredibly detailed photos.
And :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou: a million times to TL for the hard work involved in getting these files from Bill to RFF's pages!
The photos below are presented IN ORDER. Some have been zoomed in on to focus on details. Hopefully these will answer some of the questions that have been a mystery from Dec 19!!
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1>15:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4317.jpg)1(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4323.jpg)2(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4324.jpg)3(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4328.jpg)4(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4341.jpg)5(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4344.jpg)6(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4346.jpg)7(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4349.jpg)8(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4356.jpg)9(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4358.jpg)10(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4368.jpg)11(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4369.jpg)12(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4374.jpg)13(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4375.jpg)14(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4386.jpg)15
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16>25:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4392.jpg)16(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4395.jpg)17(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4397.jpg)18(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4400.jpg)19(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4402.jpg)20(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4405.jpg)21(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4412.jpg)22(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4413.jpg)23(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4414.jpg)24(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4416.jpg)25
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26>35:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4417.jpg)26(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4418.jpg)27(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4421.jpg)28(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4422.jpg)29(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4424.jpg)30(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4427.jpg)31(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4430.jpg)32(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4434.jpg)33(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4441.jpg)34(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4448.jpg)35
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35>45:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4449.jpg)36(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4451.jpg)37(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4452.jpg)38(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4455.jpg)39(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4456.jpg)40(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4457.jpg)41(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4458.jpg)42(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4459.jpg)43(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4460.jpg)44(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4461.jpg)45
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46>55:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4462.jpg)46(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4467.jpg)47(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4472.jpg)48(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4473.jpg)49(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4476.jpg)50(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4477.jpg)50(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4477.jpg)51(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4482.jpg)52(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4484.jpg)53(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4485.jpg)54(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4486.jpg)55
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56>65:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4490.jpg)56(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4493.jpg)57(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4498.jpg)58(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4499.jpg)59(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4503.jpg)60(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4518.jpg)61(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/IMG_4521.jpg)62(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/L1050656.jpg)63(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/L1050664.jpg)64(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/Cropped_4452.jpg)65
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TEXASLADY'S FABULOUS TIMELINE/EXIF DATA SUMMARY:
* = a Bill Spencer favorite
Photo # Racer/Racers EXIF Time Description
4317 Helicopter 10:08:57
*4323 Rachel/Dave 10:13:14 Rachel and Dave enter
*4424 Rachel/Dave 10:13:31 Briefing, Rachel with Clue
4328 Rachel B 10:14:21 Rachel on scale
4341 Rachel B 10:21:31 Rachel ready
4344 Dave 10:23:33 Dave being rigged up
4346 Rachel/Brendon 10:26:06 Rachel and Brendon enter the courtyard
4349 Rachel/Dave 10:26:49 Rachel /Dave still on ground
4356 Rachel/Brendon 10:33:19 Rachel/Brendon, getting rigged
4358 Rachel/Dave 10:33:52 Starting up
4368 Dave 10:35:46 Dave moving on up
4369 Rachel B 10:36:03 Rachel below Dave
4374 Dave 10:37:24 Dave-near top of last set of shutters
4375 Rachel B 10:37:29 Rachel below Dave
4386 Dave/Rachel 10:39:03 Both, nearing the top
4392 Dave/Rachel 10:39:43 Rachel caught up with Dave (he waited)
4395 Dave 10:40:53 Dave nearing the top
4397 Dave/Rachel 10:41:39 Dave almost at the top
4400 Dave 10:42:23 Dave inches from the top
4402 Rachel B 10:42:42 Rachel even with the last set of shutters
4405 Rachel/Brendon 10:44:32 Starting ascent, past the 1st part of bldg.
4412 Brendon 10:45:36 1/3 of the way up?
4413 3rd Helicopter 10:45:46
4414 Brendon 10:45:53 Looking up
4416 Rachel B 10:46:05 Nearing the top
4417 Rachel B 10:46:21 Almost there
4418 Rachel B 10:46:33 Few more feet to go
4421 Rachel B 10:47:19 On top
4422 Brendon 10:47:30 1/2 way?
4424 Rachel R 10:47:38 Just below Brendon
4427 Brendon/Rachel 10:48:08 Comparison shot
4430 Brendon/Rachel 10:48:34 Rachel passes Brendon
4434 Rachel/Brendon 10:50:34 Rachel nearing the top level
4441 Rachel/Brendon 10:54:55 Close-up of both, nearing the top level
4448 Rachel R 10:57:18 Climbing to the top, workers and rigging
4449 Rachel R 10:57:35 Standing at the top
4451 4th Helicopter 10:58:12
4452 Rachel /Rachel 10:58:47 Rachel B being filmed on right
4455 Brendon 10:59:58 Brendon nearing top
4456 Brendon 11:00:18 Better shot of him climbing to platform
4457 Brendon/Rachel 11:00:44 Brendon & Crew, Rachel on the deck
4458 Camera Crew 11:03:33 Off to the left of the scaffolding. R/D?
4459 Art/JJ 11:04:30 Entering courtyard
4460 Art/JJ 11:04:41 Briefing?
4461 Art/JJ 11:05/27 Weighing in
4462 Art/JJ 11:27:29 Ascending the building
*4467 Art/JJ 11:29:01 Close-up
4472 Art/JJ 11:30:44 Long shot of building and progress
*4473 Art/JJ 11:31:51 Long shot -
4476 Dave/Rachel 11:33:03 Leaving?
4477 Brendon/Rachel 11:34:55 Preparing to descend
*4482 Brendon/Rachel 11:37:40 Preparing to descend
4484 Brendon 11:38:30 Preparing to jump
4485 Brendon 11:38:40 Jumping off
4486 Brendon 11:38:45 Descending face forward
4490 Brendon/Rachel 11:39:00 Descending, Rachel at top
4493 Brendon 11:39:41 End of the overhang,
4498 Brendon 11:40:25 Still descending
4499 Rachel R 11:40:32 Descending
*4503 Rachel R 11:40:56 In distress, crying out?
4518 Rachel R 11:41:51 Nearing the bottom
4521 Rachel R 11:42:20 3 floors to go
L1050664.JPG Building 09:38:35 Long shot, (Leica camera)
L1050656 Rainbow 09:40:40 Landscape view
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Quotes from Bill:
It was very interesting to watch this process. Much care was taken to prepare for the finale at our condo. I was also surprised to see that the actual physical effort on the part of the participants was minimal at best. There was a counter weight that virtually pulled them up to the top, whether they used any effort on their own or not. Likewise, the descent was very carefully managed by the highly skilled support team.
It was cool to watch and I was glad to have the photo opportunity.
I have 19 shots of the first place (team), 16 of the second place (team) and 7 of the third place (team). I only have pictures of the 2nd place (team) rappelling down the side of the building, as 1st and 3rd rappelled down the opposite side out of range.
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Wow!
I suspected that Bill Spencer had probably taken more pictures than were on his Flickr account, but this is amazing!
Thanks for sharing Bill!
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:colors :colors :colors :colors :colors :colors :colors
Amazing work guys!!
Red Rachel's descent is interesting :lol3:
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:yess: :yess: :yess: :yess: :yess: :conf: :conf: :conf:
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Thank goodness he copyrighted them. ;)
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The timeline is there are all to see, but I find the most interesting information is this:
4421 Rachel B 10:47:19 On top
4476 Dave/Rachel 11:33:03 Leaving?
46 minutes is a long time for a team to get down and out of their harnesses. It took 13 minutes to get ready for the ascent and only 21 minutes for the ascent. Why so long going down?
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Let's fix the timeline! :lol: The * photos are Bill Spencer's favorite photos.
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/Timeline1.png)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Stuff/Timeline2.png)
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Thanks for the hard work TL!! :hearts:
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So Chateau's work on the Brenchel caps at Sand Island Beach Park is wrong?
"Quote from: Chateau d If on May 02, 2012, 09:37:23 PM
This shot was taken between 11:18 and 11:32 am (assumes December 19th).
note correction :)"
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The timeline is there are all to see, but I find the most interesting information is this:
4421 Rachel B 10:47:19 On top
4476 Dave/Rachel 11:33:03 Leaving?
46 minutes is a long time for a team to get down and out of their harnesses. It took 13 minutes to get ready for the ascent and only 21 minutes for the ascent. Why so long going down?
It does seem like it took them awhile to get to the ground. At 10:58 (4452) you can see both Rachel's on top, RachelB at the right. At 11:03 (4458) the camera crew is filming Dave and Rachel, I presume, towards the right side of the building where it was not possible for Bill to get any shots. So it did take quite a period of time for them to descend.
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The timeline is there are all to see, but I find the most interesting information is this:
4421 Rachel B 10:47:19 On top
4476 Dave/Rachel 11:33:03 Leaving?
46 minutes is a long time for a team to get down and out of their harnesses. It took 13 minutes to get ready for the ascent and only 21 minutes for the ascent. Why so long going down?
It does seem like it took them awhile to get to the ground. At 10:58 (4452) you can see both Rachel's on top, RachelB at the right. At 11:03 (4458) the camera crew is filming Dave and Rachel, I presume, towards the right side of the building where it was not possible for Bill to get any shots. So it did take quite a period of time for them to descend.
Consider you see B/R finish climb around 11:00 but don't start descending until 11:38.
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When they arrive on the scene it took them about 20 minutes to get geared up. Once the reach the top they appear to change gear for the descent. On the way down they are wearing those pads and things that they don't have on the way up. They may even have to change their harness.
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When they arrive on the scene it took them about 20 minutes to get geared up. Once the reach the top they appear to change gear for the descent. On the way down they are wearing those pads and things that they don't have on the way up. They may even have to change their harness.
It does seem that either 1) R/D took less time to get rigged to descend or 2) were speed demons descending.
10:47 D/R finished climb, 11:33 seen departing
11:00 B/R finished climb, 11:42 rachel still descending (3 floors to go)
Only 4 minutes to finish the descent and get out of the rigging and leave to equal D/R time.
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I think it is quite possible they had a second briefing on the descent while they were at the top, before being allowed to descend...
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Thank you Bill for these photos!
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It does seem that either 1) R/D took less time to get rigged to descend or 2) were speed demons descending.
I know that at least in earlier season they have had fixed times for the rigging and safety briefing. That is when teams arrive the clock start ticking and they may not start ascending until a certain number of minutes have passed. That is so that nobody is tempted to skimp on the safety briefing.
I assume the same procedure still applies.
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Amazing pictures! Thank you, Bill. Texas Lady, thanks for organizing them so well. :hrt:
Just speculation: I have been wondering if there was anything about Sand Island Beach Park that was supposed to be discovered by the racers before descending. That could explain a difference in their time spent up top, if R&B took longer to figure it out than R&D did. :duno:
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When they arrive on the scene it took them about 20 minutes to get geared up. Once the reach the top they appear to change gear for the descent. On the way down they are wearing those pads and things that they don't have on the way up. They may even have to change their harness.
It does seem that either 1) R/D took less time to get rigged to descend or 2) were speed demons descending.
10:47 D/R finished climb, 11:33 seen departing
11:00 B/R finished climb, 11:42 rachel still descending (3 floors to go)
Only 4 minutes to finish the descent and get out of the rigging and leave to equal D/R time.
bcp19,
I think you may have misinterpreted some of the data from Bill Spencer's timeline as sorted out by Texas Lady.
The way I look at it, we know that Rachel and David were both of top by 1147. However, we do not know when they actually started down. There is an indication that they left at 1133.
They arrived 9 minutes before Rachel and Brendon. Rachel and David reached the top at 1101 so they lost about 4 minutes in rigging and ascent. We do not know precisely when Rachel and Brendon finished their descent and were able to leave. What we do know is that it had to be several minutes after 1142 since Rachel was still 3 floors above the ground and she still had to unrig from her harness. This means that Rachel and David did indeed gain a little time on this task vs. Rachel and Brendon.
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Amazing pictures! Thank you, Bill. Texas Lady, thanks for organizing them so well. :hrt:
Just speculation: I have been wondering if there was anything about Sand Island Beach Park that was supposed to be discovered by the racers before descending. That could explain a difference in their time spent up top, if R&B took longer to figure it out than R&D did. :duno:
We don't know; but in the picture number 20 Rachel B. seems to be looking at some place. But maybe she was just watching the landscape.
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Since we have to do something until tomorrow night, here are some shots with closeups of the clue and something Dave and Brendon are reading, instructions?
(Sorry I couldn't get them as clear and large as RachelB's.)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/clue.png) (RachelB)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/dave.png) (Dave)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/Brendon_clue.png) (Brendon)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/MissyPhont/JJ.png) (JJ)
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So they get a route info card and a sheet with 10 lines of directions. That is a lot of instructions for a simple climb up and over task. Maybe there is more to it. boston_jen's theory is interesting.
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So they get a route info card and a sheet with 10 lines of directions. That is a lot of instructions for a simple climb up and over task. Maybe there is more to it. boston_jen's theory is interesting.
Amazing pictures! Thank you, Bill. Texas Lady, thanks for organizing them so well. :hrt:
Just speculation: I have been wondering if there was anything about Sand Island Beach Park that was supposed to be discovered by the racers before descending. That could explain a difference in their time spent up top, if R&B took longer to figure it out than R&D did. :duno:
We don't know; but in the picture number 20 Rachel B. seems to be looking at some place. But maybe she was just watching the landscape.
If it possible to see Sand Island Beach Park from the face of the tower they were doing the climbing - again, watch Rachel B. in picture 20 -, boston_jen could have hit the bull's eye.
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So they get a route info card and a sheet with 10 lines of directions. That is a lot of instructions for a simple climb up and over task. Maybe there is more to it. boston_jen's theory is interesting.
Amazing pictures! Thank you, Bill. Texas Lady, thanks for organizing them so well. :hrt:
Just speculation: I have been wondering if there was anything about Sand Island Beach Park that was supposed to be discovered by the racers before descending. That could explain a difference in their time spent up top, if R&B took longer to figure it out than R&D did. :duno:
We don't know; but in the picture number 20 Rachel B. seems to be looking at some place. But maybe she was just watching the landscape.
If it possible to see Sand Island Beach Park from the face of the tower they were doing the climbing - again, watch Rachel B. in picture 20 -, boston_jen could have hit the bull's eye.
They should not have the sand island park clue until they get to the bottom, so doubtful she is looking for the next area.
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So they get a route info card and a sheet with 10 lines of directions. That is a lot of instructions for a simple climb up and over task. Maybe there is more to it. boston_jen's theory is interesting.
Amazing pictures! Thank you, Bill. Texas Lady, thanks for organizing them so well. :hrt:
Just speculation: I have been wondering if there was anything about Sand Island Beach Park that was supposed to be discovered by the racers before descending. That could explain a difference in their time spent up top, if R&B took longer to figure it out than R&D did. :duno:
We don't know; but in the picture number 20 Rachel B. seems to be looking at some place. But maybe she was just watching the landscape.
If it possible to see Sand Island Beach Park from the face of the tower they were doing the climbing - again, watch Rachel B. in picture 20 -, boston_jen could have hit the bull's eye.
They should not have the sand island park clue until they get to the bottom, so doubtful she is looking for the next area.
We're talking about TexasLady's closeups of pictures 3 (Davechel), 7 (Brenchel) and 47 (Art & JJ).
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Thank you Bill!
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So they get a route info card and a sheet with 10 lines of directions. That is a lot of instructions for a simple climb up and over task. Maybe there is more to it. boston_jen's theory is interesting.
Amazing pictures! Thank you, Bill. Texas Lady, thanks for organizing them so well. :hrt:
Just speculation: I have been wondering if there was anything about Sand Island Beach Park that was supposed to be discovered by the racers before descending. That could explain a difference in their time spent up top, if R&B took longer to figure it out than R&D did. :duno:
We don't know; but in the picture number 20 Rachel B. seems to be looking at some place. But maybe she was just watching the landscape.
If it possible to see Sand Island Beach Park from the face of the tower they were doing the climbing - again, watch Rachel B. in picture 20 -, boston_jen could have hit the bull's eye.
They should not have the sand island park clue until they get to the bottom, so doubtful she is looking for the next area.
We're talking about TexasLady's closeups of pictures 3 (Davechel), 7 (Brenchel) and 47 (Art & JJ).
So, you are thinking something like when they go up in a structure and have to look around to find a marker to the next location. I can only think of one thing to refute that, and that is the 4 square press photo showing D/R reading the clue while Dave is taking off the gloves from the rappel. If the teams knew where they were headed from looking around, why stop to read a clue after the decent? Also, using pic 63/64, the only way these pictures could have been taken is if the photographer was facing south and west from the northern tower, this would mean the teams would be ascending the east side of the southern building, and would be unable to see Sand Island until they were on the top. Chances are she was looking at Diamond Head, which would be an awesome view from there.
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Let me add my thanks to Bill Spencer for what I think is the best series of photographs an outsider has ever managed to take of a task on TAR, especially a finale.
The time stamps are an outstanding resource for this; while we've had similar time elements from some episodes involving ascent or descent equipment in the past; it's never been this clear cut (even though we know less about Art-JJ than the other two teams.
A schnauzer bark for a job well done by both Bill and TexasLady!
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Let me add my thanks to Bill Spencer for what I think is the best series of photographs an outsider has ever managed to take of a task on TAR, especially a finale.
The time stamps are an outstanding resource for this; while we've had similar time elements from some episodes involving ascent or descent equipment in the past; it's never been this clear cut (even though we know less about Art-JJ than the other two teams.
A schnauzer bark for a job well done by both Bill and TexasLady!
you talk about time stamps on the photos but I don't see any..........could you please explain?
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So they get a route info card and a sheet with 10 lines of directions. That is a lot of instructions for a simple climb up and over task. Maybe there is more to it. boston_jen's theory is interesting.
Amazing pictures! Thank you, Bill. Texas Lady, thanks for organizing them so well. :hrt:
Just speculation: I have been wondering if there was anything about Sand Island Beach Park that was supposed to be discovered by the racers before descending. That could explain a difference in their time spent up top, if R&B took longer to figure it out than R&D did. :duno:
We don't know; but in the picture number 20 Rachel B. seems to be looking at some place. But maybe she was just watching the landscape.
If it possible to see Sand Island Beach Park from the face of the tower they were doing the climbing - again, watch Rachel B. in picture 20 -, boston_jen could have hit the bull's eye.
They should not have the sand island park clue until they get to the bottom, so doubtful she is looking for the next area.
We're talking about TexasLady's closeups of pictures 3 (Davechel), 7 (Brenchel) and 47 (Art & JJ).
So, you are thinking something like when they go up in a structure and have to look around to find a marker to the next location. I can only think of one thing to refute that, and that is the 4 square press photo showing D/R reading the clue while Dave is taking off the gloves from the rappel. If the teams knew where they were headed from looking around, why stop to read a clue after the decent? Also, using pic 63/64, the only way these pictures could have been taken is if the photographer was facing south and west from the northern tower, this would mean the teams would be ascending the east side of the southern building, and would be unable to see Sand Island until they were on the top. Chances are she was looking at Diamond Head, which would be an awesome view from there.
That's why I used the "if" and the "could".
So it's probable that, as I said in my reply after boston_jen post "she was just watching the landscape"
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Let me add my thanks to Bill Spencer for what I think is the best series of photographs an outsider has ever managed to take of a task on TAR, especially a finale.
The time stamps are an outstanding resource for this; while we've had similar time elements from some episodes involving ascent or descent equipment in the past; it's never been this clear cut (even though we know less about Art-JJ than the other two teams.
A schnauzer bark for a job well done by both Bill and TexasLady!
you talk about time stamps on the photos but I don't see any..........could you please explain?
From the first set of posts from Georgiapeach on the first page of this thread:
TEXASLADY'S FABULOUS TIMELINE/EXIF DATA SUMMARY:
* = a Bill Spencer favorite
Photo # Racer/Racers EXIF Time Description
4317 Helicopter 10:08:57
*4323 Rachel/Dave 10:13:14 Rachel and Dave enter
*4424 Rachel/Dave 10:13:31 Briefing, Rachel with Clue
4328 Rachel B 10:14:21 Rachel on scale
4341 Rachel B 10:21:31 Rachel ready
4344 Dave 10:23:33 Dave being rigged up
4346 Rachel/Brendon 10:26:06 Rachel and Brendon enter the courtyard
4349 Rachel/Dave 10:26:49 Rachel /Dave still on ground
4356 Rachel/Brendon 10:33:19 Rachel/Brendon, getting rigged
4358 Rachel/Dave 10:33:52 Starting up
4368 Dave 10:35:46 Dave moving on up
4369 Rachel B 10:36:03 Rachel below Dave
4374 Dave 10:37:24 Dave-near top of last set of shutters
4375 Rachel B 10:37:29 Rachel below Dave
4386 Dave/Rachel 10:39:03 Both, nearing the top
4392 Dave/Rachel 10:39:43 Rachel caught up with Dave (he waited)
4395 Dave 10:40:53 Dave nearing the top
4397 Dave/Rachel 10:41:39 Dave almost at the top
4400 Dave 10:42:23 Dave inches from the top
4402 Rachel B 10:42:42 Rachel even with the last set of shutters
4405 Rachel/Brendon 10:44:32 Starting ascent, past the 1st part of bldg.
4412 Brendon 10:45:36 1/3 of the way up?
4413 3rd Helicopter 10:45:46
4414 Brendon 10:45:53 Looking up
4416 Rachel B 10:46:05 Nearing the top
4417 Rachel B 10:46:21 Almost there
4418 Rachel B 10:46:33 Few more feet to go
4421 Rachel B 10:47:19 On top
4422 Brendon 10:47:30 1/2 way?
4424 Rachel R 10:47:38 Just below Brendon
4427 Brendon/Rachel 10:48:08 Comparison shot
4430 Brendon/Rachel 10:48:34 Rachel passes Brendon
4434 Rachel/Brendon 10:50:34 Rachel nearing the top level
4441 Rachel/Brendon 10:54:55 Close-up of both, nearing the top level
4448 Rachel R 10:57:18 Climbing to the top, workers and rigging
4449 Rachel R 10:57:35 Standing at the top
4451 4th Helicopter 10:58:12
4452 Rachel /Rachel 10:58:47 Rachel B being filmed on right
4455 Brendon 10:59:58 Brendon nearing top
4456 Brendon 11:00:18 Better shot of him climbing to platform
4457 Brendon/Rachel 11:00:44 Brendon & Crew, Rachel on the deck
4458 Camera Crew 11:03:33 Off to the left of the scaffolding. R/D?
4459 Art/JJ 11:04:30 Entering courtyard
4460 Art/JJ 11:04:41 Briefing?
4461 Art/JJ 11:05/27 Weighing in
4462 Art/JJ 11:27:29 Ascending the building
*4467 Art/JJ 11:29:01 Close-up
4472 Art/JJ 11:30:44 Long shot of building and progress
*4473 Art/JJ 11:31:51 Long shot -
4476 Dave/Rachel 11:33:03 Leaving?
4477 Brendon/Rachel 11:34:55 Preparing to descend
*4482 Brendon/Rachel 11:37:40 Preparing to descend
4484 Brendon 11:38:30 Preparing to jump
4485 Brendon 11:38:40 Jumping off
4486 Brendon 11:38:45 Descending face forward
4490 Brendon/Rachel 11:39:00 Descending, Rachel at top
4493 Brendon 11:39:41 End of the overhang,
4498 Brendon 11:40:25 Still descending
4499 Rachel R 11:40:32 Descending
*4503 Rachel R 11:40:56 In distress, crying out?
4518 Rachel R 11:41:51 Nearing the bottom
4521 Rachel R 11:42:20 3 floors to go
L1050664.JPG Building 09:38:35 Long shot, (Leica camera)
L1050656 Rainbow 09:40:40 Landscape view
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Thanks Bill. This just proves that Vanessa & Ralph don't make it!! :wohoo: :conf: :yess:
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Thx Bill , and HOW COOL to be a small part of the race. I hope the race goes through Baltimore or Annapolis next season and the great detectives here at RFF get a heads up before they arrive so I can chase them around all day taking pictures . WOW , that would be sooo exciting. Ya never know , it could happen.
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Thx Bill , and HOW COOL to be a small part of the race. I hope the race goes through Baltimore or Annapolis next season and the great detectives here at RFF get a heads up before they arrive so I can chase them around all day taking pictures . WOW , that would be sooo exciting. Ya never know , it could happen.
Not going to happen now,because the cats out of the bag. :lol:
:'(
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Thx Bill , and HOW COOL to be a small part of the race. I hope the race goes through Baltimore or Annapolis next season and the great detectives here at RFF get a heads up before they arrive so I can chase them around all day taking pictures . WOW , that would be sooo exciting. Ya never know , it could happen.
Not going to happen now,because the cats out of the bag. :lol:
:'(
If it is already planned they wouldn't change it because of that :lol: They still start in LA year after year despite the fact that Chateau lives at LAX :lol:
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Thx Bill , and HOW COOL to be a small part of the race. I hope the race goes through Baltimore or Annapolis next season and the great detectives here at RFF get a heads up before they arrive so I can chase them around all day taking pictures . WOW , that would be sooo exciting. Ya never know , it could happen.
Not going to happen now,because the cats out of the bag. :lol:
:'(
If it is already planned they wouldn't change it because of that :lol: They still start in LA year after year despite the fact that Chateau lives at LAX :lol:
:lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
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So they get a route info card and a sheet with 10 lines of directions. That is a lot of instructions for a simple climb up and over task. Maybe there is more to it. boston_jen's theory is interesting.
Amazing pictures! Thank you, Bill. Texas Lady, thanks for organizing them so well. :hrt:
Just speculation: I have been wondering if there was anything about Sand Island Beach Park that was supposed to be discovered by the racers before descending. That could explain a difference in their time spent up top, if R&B took longer to figure it out than R&D did. :duno:
We don't know; but in the picture number 20 Rachel B. seems to be looking at some place. But maybe she was just watching the landscape.
If it possible to see Sand Island Beach Park from the face of the tower they were doing the climbing - again, watch Rachel B. in picture 20 -, boston_jen could have hit the bull's eye.
They should not have the sand island park clue until they get to the bottom, so doubtful she is looking for the next area.
We're talking about TexasLady's closeups of pictures 3 (Davechel), 7 (Brenchel) and 47 (Art & JJ).
So, you are thinking something like when they go up in a structure and have to look around to find a marker to the next location. I can only think of one thing to refute that, and that is the 4 square press photo showing D/R reading the clue while Dave is taking off the gloves from the rappel. If the teams knew where they were headed from looking around, why stop to read a clue after the decent? Also, using pic 63/64, the only way these pictures could have been taken is if the photographer was facing south and west from the northern tower, this would mean the teams would be ascending the east side of the southern building, and would be unable to see Sand Island until they were on the top. Chances are she was looking at Diamond Head, which would be an awesome view from there.
That's why I used the "if" and the "could".
So it's probable that, as I said in my reply after boston_jen post "she was just watching the landscape"
We were right! :yess: :yess: :yess: :yess: :yess:
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Aloha All!
I am so thrilled that you enjoyed my photos. Mahalo for your thanks!
It is probably moot by now, as the show has already aired in the east coast, but the teams went up the east side of the building and could not see Sand Island until they got to the top. The first team and third team repelled down the south side of the building so I did not get shots of them, only the second team went down the north side of the building. I didn't happen to get any shots of sand island that day other than the part you can see in the rainbow photo.
As far as I could tell they were all given enveloped to ready before the ascent.
Happy to answer any other questions.
Again, glad you liked the photos.
Warmest Aloha,
Bill Spencer
Honolulu, Hawaii
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Aloha Bill! The photos were fantastic, thank you so much for sharing them, and I'm sure there will be a lot of questions for you.
Welcome to RFF! :bigwelcome
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Aloha All!
I am so thrilled that you enjoyed my photos. Mahalo for your thanks!
It is probably moot by now, as the show has already aired in the east coast, but the teams went up the east side of the building and could not see Sand Island until they got to the top. The first team and third team repelled down the south side of the building so I did not get shots of them, only the second team went down the north side of the building. I didn't happen to get any shots of sand island that day other than the part you can see in the rainbow photo.
As far as I could tell they were all given enveloped to ready before the ascent.
Happy to answer any other questions.
Again, glad you liked the photos.
Warmest Aloha,
Bill Spencer
Honolulu, Hawaii
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:bigwelcome Bill!!
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Bill,
Your pictures added a great deal to the experience of RFF members getting ready for the finale. We have never had anything quite like them. I found the timeline generated from them to be most valuable to me.
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Thank you Bill! You just entered to the RFF history! :jam:
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Bill, what color were the envelopes that they were given before they started their ascent? I found this information very interesting.
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The envelope was yellow.
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The envelope was yellow.
Ah! Ok, In the series that are online, we can see 2 teams holding the envelope. Thanks for clearing that up. I thought they had them when they ran in.
(Sorry to be so late answering, we've had 5 days of storms here in Texas, lots of thunder and lightening.)