Hi Guys, I Read It In The Amazing Race Wiki: I live in Ticino, the southern part of Switzerland. Today I saw two separate groups of two people with backpacks running around town, followed by a cameraman and a 4th person. I noticed they were speaking American English.
This was especially strange because I normally hear American-accented English perhaps once or twice a month, even though this place is pretty touristy. Additionally, I saw these Americans talking to a PRIEST outside of church and being filmed doing so. Seriously, what tourists talk to a priest (on camera)? :yess:
So... One Of The Destinations Is Locarno, Switzerland. :tup:
Awesome find Mrs Shrek! And don't listen to her, I deserve no credit it was all Mrs Shreks doing!!
:jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:
Mornig in Locarno, train Station, y help the couple Dustin & Kandice to go in Verzasca Valley. You see the the show and you see my .....
And don't listen to her, I deserve no credit it was all Mrs Shreks doing!!
Sounds like hes a fan of the show Michael and perhaps helped 2 girls? He says hes a cop and heres his profile pic (http://i33.[banned image hosting site].com/bcw09.jpg)QuoteMornig in Locarno, train Station, y help the couple Dustin & Kandice to go in Verzasca Valley. You see the the show and you see my .....
what?!
You know that can never happen Mrs Shrek :lol: :hugs: :kuss:
so what you gonna do? Ban me? LOL :meow:
:angel:
QuoteAny underground news?Nope; if anybody knows, he (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/5/3AB/448) does.
Countries on Hit List: Nepal, Laos, Brunei, Tahiti, Fiji, Jamaica, Bermuda, Uruguay, Paraguay, Belize
The first spoiler of a season is always what gets me jumpy and breathless! You guys are great!
Hmm, a 7/4 split for the first flight?
The Portland > Frankfurt plane is simply the reverse of TAR 13's final flight, isn't it? That's LH469, departing at 1.35pm to 9.05am the next day, a flight duration of 10h 30min. Portland, Maine doesn't have a direct flight to Frankfurt - and it'd take a much shorter time too if it did!
Only Lufthansa and Swiss Air for the Frankfurt > Zurich leg, and it looks like they're running codeshare. Here're the possible options:
LH5052/LX1071, 1015-1120
LH3726/LX3605, 1200-1255
LH3728/LX3607, 1305-1400
And... There're plenty of trains (departure times differ by less than an hour) from Zurich Airport to Locarno, taking a little over 3 hours with a couple of connections. They'd be able to make it there the same day, albeit in the afternoon. First one gets them in at 1606, provided they can hop on by 1147.
Frankfurt is the airport serving the most destinations worldwide. Not much hope of finding where they start, eh? But if we assume it's straight from the US to Frankfurt, we have the following 21 cities as candidates, with all flights getting in before noon:
The good news? Looks like the LA flight gets in too late for the racers to be lounging around before Matty gets to Frankfurt!
Lufthansa: Atlanta (1810-0900), Boston (1635-0525), Chicago (1433-0545, 1545-0710, 1848-1015), Dallas (1620-0905), Denver (1715-1100), Detroit (1810-0755), Houston (1630-0905), Los Angeles (1435-1025), Miami (1605-0650), New York (1550-0525, 2145-1110), Newark (1810-0750), Orlando (2030-1125), Philadelphia (1635-0615, 1805-0805), Portland (1335-0905), San Francisco (1348-0945, 1430-1020), Seattle (1455-1005), Washington DC (1722-0710, 1750-0730, 1914-0915, 2155-1140)
*deep breath*
United: Chicago (1433-0545, 1545-0710, 1848-1015), San Francisco (1348-0945, 1430-1020), Washington DC (1722-0710, 1750-0730, 1914-0915, 2155-1140)
American: Chicago (1930-1105), Dallas (1445-0705)
Delta: Atlanta (1635-0740), Cincinnati (1925-0955), New York (1910-0930)
Northwest: Detroit (1710-0720)
Continental: Newark (1915-0915)
US Airways: Charlotte (2015-1050), Philadelphia (1635-0615)
Singapore: New York (2100-1050)
The Portland > Frankfurt plane is simply the reverse of TAR 13's final flight, isn't it? That's LH469, departing at 1.35pm to 9.05am the next day, a flight duration of 10h 30min. Portland, Maine doesn't have a direct flight to Frankfurt - and it'd take a much shorter time too if it did!
The Portland > Frankfurt plane is simply the reverse of TAR 13's final flight, isn't it? That's LH469, departing at 1.35pm to 9.05am the next day, a flight duration of 10h 30min. Portland, Maine doesn't have a direct flight to Frankfurt - and it'd take a much shorter time too if it did!
Are there no other possible non stop flights with other airlines? The reason I ask is that it doesn't seem to fit with the evidence in the blog: The sister said "Matty left last night. We all went to the airport to see him off."
It would be a real stretch to describe a 1:35pm departure as 'night', especially as he would probably have had to say goodbye to them before heading thru customs, probably 1 hour before departure at least, so I would have expected her to use the words 'lunchtime', or similar. And from the photo of the family, the watch really does look like 1:50pm.
Also Matty mentions in his own blog that he was only "able to sleep for the first two hours of the flight". Even seasoned travellers would find it hard to dose off at midday in their own timezone at the beginning of their first flight.
The only reason it is impt either way is because it changes the window of time for when the racers would have been seen at Frankfurt. :duno:
Peach, I do not understand your comment "Oh and it is definitely Portland, Oregon.....no doubts." unless this comment is limited to the departure of the blogger's relative from Portland to Frankfurt. Is there something else about AR14 that has been connected to Portland OR?
The Portland > Frankfurt plane is simply the reverse of TAR 13's final flight, isn't it? That's LH469, departing at 1.35pm to 9.05am the next day, a flight duration of 10h 30min.
Would that make Romania Leg 3? Given the late afternoon arrivals at Locarno, it would most likely encompass a 'draw a time and wait for the next morning' bit, making the Pit Stop sometime on the 2nd of November.
Add a 12-hour Pit Stop and you get a morning of the 3rd departure. A one-day Leg Two, followed by another 12-hour Pit Stop, gives you arrival in Munich on the night of the 4th.
Alternatively, add a 36-hour Pit Stop, and you get a morning of the 4th departure. We'd test this scenario (36h Pit Stop, then Locarno > Zurich > Munich > Bucharest).
If teams depart before 8am from Locarno, they'd be able to take:
Train from Locarno to Zurich Airport: 8.53am to 12.13pm
LH3743 from Zurich to Munich: 1.10pm to 2.10pm
RO312 from Munich to Bucharest: 4.45pm to 7.45pm
They instead take the next Munich-Bucharest flight at 9.30pm, indicating that they'd check in after 8pm in Leg One. After half a leg on 1 Nov, would we have activities in Locarno on 2 Nov dragging into the night? I'd say doubtful.
ETA: Assuming Locarno is Leg One. But if it isn't, please just add X to the leg number!
Grrr, kept eyes peeled all day and no more AR sightings in my little corner of Transylvania. Sorry guys. I was really enjoying feeling useful and having info to share! Camping out at the departures area was considered, Michael (seriously!), but unfortunately probably won't happen. And apskp - we had made the same prediction ourselves this afternoon about the People's Palace being a filming location in Buc. I've always felt that even finding an address among the jungle of concrete blocs would be an AR-worthy task, too! As for Peles, would be cool but it's closed all of November for cleaning and maintenance. I suppose anything's possible, though!Doesn't mean you have to leave us romaniafan, we'd love to have you stick around and see how all this unfolds :hearts:
One last little tidbit: My friend said the racer sitting next to her on the plane had mentioned that others "from our group" had been on an earlier flight that day. Maybe these were just the stragglers? And as I may have already mentioned, she was wearing a t-shirt with a picture of her daughter that said "I love you wherever I go". Think that's it for now!
Grrr, kept eyes peeled all day and no more AR sightings in my little corner of Transylvania. Sorry guys. I was really enjoying feeling useful and having info to share! Camping out at the departures area was considered, Michael (seriously!), but unfortunately probably won't happen. And apskp - we had made the same prediction ourselves this afternoon about the People's Palace being a filming location in Buc. I've always felt that even finding an address among the jungle of concrete blocs would be an AR-worthy task, too! As for Peles, would be cool but it's closed all of November for cleaning and maintenance. I suppose anything's possible, though!
One last little tidbit: My friend said the racer sitting next to her on the plane had mentioned that others "from our group" had been on an earlier flight that day. Maybe these were just the stragglers? And as I may have already mentioned, she was wearing a t-shirt with a picture of her daughter that said "I love you wherever I go". Think that's it for now!
venzin77 RE: Is the Amazing Race in Locarno, Ticino?
Today, 3:52 PM EST
Yes the amazing race is in Switzerland y help one couple, y make police man job.
Mornig in Locarno, train Station, y help the couple Dustin & Kandice to go in Verzasca Valley. You see the the show and you see my ..... :)
Wiki/Wetpaint (http://amazingrace.wetpaint.com/thread/2031565/Is+the+Amazing+Race+in+Locarno,+Ticino%3F?t=anon)
I'm confused batchick...
Were those banners in the picture we saw at the entrance to Rhodes Memorial or at one of the University entrances?
From: SwissMiss08
I first approached the plaza piazza sant'antonio around 6pm (it gets dark here around 5:30pm now). It is a little plaza in the old city (citta vecchia) which has some parking spots. I tried to park my car and was waved away. And there was a priest standing in front of the church, outside. They did not appear to have been standing there for long. It looked like they were just getting set up.
Around 7, I was again heading up towards the plaza AGAIN when we were passed by a team heading down the street, towards the vicinity of the Piazza Grande or the castle, we thought. This team was two younger people (early to mid 20s). I think the woman I saw was blond, but not sure. She was definitely pretty and tall - guessing 5'9 or more. The "producer" (ie 4th person in group, not carrying a backpack or camera) stopped her to adjust her shirt or necklace as they walked down the street.
Around 7, I was again heading up towards the plaza AGAIN when we were passed by a team heading down the street, towards the vicinity of the Piazza Grande or the castle, we thought. This team was two younger people (early to mid 20s). I think the woman I saw was blond, but not sure. She was definitely pretty and tall - guessing 5'9 or more. The "producer" (ie 4th person in group, not carrying a backpack or camera) stopped her to adjust her shirt or necklace as they walked down the street.
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November 6, 2008 in général
But the show exploits more than the vampire legend. The most intriguing element of The Amazing Race episode in Romania relates to the gypsy village, which was, strangely, a fake. Constructed specially for the show in an area with a relatively low gypsy population, the artificial village was “populated” with ethnic Romanians dressed up in gypsy attire. Yes, even the supposed gypsies were impostors, as authentic as their costumes may have appeared. All this was done for the benefit of a reality television show. And tourism, of course.
I really hope that this is not true, cuz I'll be really disappointed.
I also have to say that one of the most exciting points of the day was when we saw signs for the show "The Amazing Race." It was being filmed at the palace where the famous Sound of Music gazebo now is. I took a picture of one of the signs that I saw, but there also were about 15 matching white Mercedes out front that were supposed to belong to the people in the amazing race. After I took a picture, an angry man came and put a garbage bag over the sign.
The driver pulled down the window and asked a young Austrian man for directions. I recognized right away that the driver spoke American English, so being the helpful American I am, I pulled around the front of the car to see if I could help. The Austrian man was fishing for his English vocabulary. Both the front and rear driver's side windows were down. A young man was driving, what I guess was his wife or girlfriend was behind him.
"How do you get to Schloss Hellbrunn?" the man asked me. He and the woman were frazzled, amazingly desperate! And they were covered in what looked like an amazing amount blood, guts, and pumpkin rot. But it all looked fake. Plus they had tons of make-up on.
I explained that they needed to turn back onto the major road they had just left, Alpenstraße, and head straight down until they passed underneath and underpass. Then they should take the very next right which would lead them down a wooded country lane.
By the time I had finished my first sentence, out of the car from the front and back passenger seats raced the camera man and the boom (sound) man, and they were both on me. I was good. Amazingly enough, I didn't look into the camera! I put a foot on my peddle to push off and ride away when the boom man caught my eye. He shook his head quickly as if to say, "Don't race off!"
The camera man turned off his camera and the boom man, an American, explained to the Austrian and me that we had to sign a release or this footage couldn't be used.
While we signed the paperwork, the woman in the backseat swore. They were in an amazing rush! The boom man turned to her and said, "Look, I told you. If you ask people questions, we have to do this. If you don't like it, don't ask for help."
"What kind of show is this?" I asked.
"A travel show," he replied.
"What channel?" I asked.
"I'm not sure," he said. Amazing, if that were true!
"What's the show called?" I asked.
Then he (sort of) came clean. He said, "I can only tell you that it's a pretty popular one!"
Off into the car they went. I wave and they raced off.
So this was some sort of race! Amazing, I thought, that I was caught in the middle of it.
I swore myself to secrecy--this was big stuff--I couldn't tell people about this! In two minutes I was home and spilling my guts to Jenny. Then one of my students came over 15 minutes later to pick up some soup, and I was telling her before she even sat down.
After my student left, Jenny suggested we head to Hellbrunn (only 5 minutes from our apartment) to see what we could see. There's a huge playground there and we promised Nikolas he could play there a bit (he said 40 minutes, and we said about 10--hey, it was getting dark!).
When we got to Hellbrunn, I noticed not one, but three cars that looked like the one I'd seen earlier. They each had numbers in the back window. The highest number I saw was 11.
When we tried to enter the castle grounds, we were immediately forced to make a U-Turn by a staff member. "Das Schloss ist zu wegen Dreharbeit." Closed due to filming...hmmm.
Just then, another white car pulled into the parking lot. A different set of people but with camera and boom men. They held each other's hands and headed right past us through a different door than the main entrance. I wanted to tell them that the path they were taking was a Detour, but I figured it wasn't my place.
In fact, a staff member came up to us a short time later and asked us in German if we'd said anything to the couple. "Nein," we answered. Dang, can't we be friendly?
Jenny decided to take Nikolas down that path to see where the couple was headed. I waited in case more white cars appeared in the parking lot. None did, and soon Jenny was back to tell me that she's seen "things." Well, I wanted to see things, too, so off I went along the path. The pathway was heavily wooded so it was even darker. Up ahead I could see huge lights, the kind you see on film sets. But there was a Roadblock between lights and me: a gate and a staff member. I spoke to the staff member for a moment. I asked him if they were filming an advertisement (playing dumb I was) and he spilled his guts. And while he spilled, I looked through the gate and saw "things."
Fast Forward to me catching up with Jenny and Nikolas in the park. We saw bobbing through the trees what looked like a TV camera light. Two women were running together. One was hobbling. The other said, "I'm going ahead a bit," and the other countered with, "OK, go ahead." Off into the park they went, clueless as the day was long.
Satisfied with the afternoon's excitement, we headed home and made a Pit Stop at Rossbräu, a local restaurant. No one recognized me from TV and I didn't tell anyone who I was.
Another GREAT find Mrs Shrek! :jumpy: and Michael!!QuoteI also have to say that one of the most exciting points of the day was when we saw signs for the show "The Amazing Race." It was being filmed at the palace where the famous Sound of Music gazebo now is. I took a picture of one of the signs that I saw, but there also were about 15 matching white Mercedes out front that were supposed to belong to the people in the amazing race. After I took a picture, an angry man came and put a garbage bag over the sign.
Salzburg Austria Posted 11/06/08 Image date 11/03/08
Why is that blog written with every possible TAR term?
U-turn
Roadblock
Detour
Pit Stop
Fast Forward
any more?
I guess it's just a stylistic tongue-in-cheek way of writing
first of alllllll, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO JOLINE LIM JIAJING! haha i shall give you your angsana card likeeeeee, the next time i see you, which is likeeeee, um, heheh.
today's training was quite relaxed coz everyone was damn high? coz beatrice kept saying the word 'high'. like aim high, look high, throw high, jump high. then we became really really high. and nicole and i were the only ones who did a proper cooldown coz the rest were too high to function as per normal. and after trng i cheonged home to change and eat then went to Bishan to meet the throwers for Eugenia's surprise barbecue thing and they were half an hour late. and while waiting for them, i was approached by two groups of people doing some amazing race thing and an aunty who was selling pens.
:funny: Looks like a "musical theme" for the Salzburg leg of the next TAR season. From the "Sound of Music" to who knows what in the birthplace city of Mozart (http://www.ennstalerhof.com/en/mozarts-geburtshaus.shtml). Maybe Julie Andrews will be the pitstop greeter. (:;) :knuckles: :groan: :res: :meow:
Very little chance that this is our race but I might as well post it:
Bishan is in Singapore right; I'm pretty sure they have their own race type thing.
I am holding out for the SALT MINES (http://www2.salzburg.info/sehenswertes_salzburg_salt_mines.htm) myself--I remember having a blast doing those!
The funicular ride to the top of the fort could be good too...
So let's see if I've got the timing right (adding to above):
Oct 31 - Leave US (maybe SFO) - via Frankfurt/Zurich or Milan - to Locarno, Switzerland
Nov 1- 2: tasks around Locarno, drive to Salzburg
Nov 3: Tasks around Salzburg (Mirabell Gardens/St. Peter's Cemetery/Schloss Hellbrunn), drive to Munich
Nov 4: Fly from Munich to Bucharest (racers seen on direct flight, but others maybe via VIE or FRA)
Nov 5: Tasks around Brasov, Romania.
This is so weird, it's almost real time!
:lol: Did a quick check of the license plate on the white Mercedes the blogger photographed as a TAR car in Salzburg (Austria). It appears to be a German license plate. Note the font, the Euro blue, the similar graphics consistent with a German plate. So if it's not Swiss, and not Austrian, did they drive it all the way from Germany? :angel: How does this figure into the flight schedules? :umn: Or did they ship these cars in from Germany just for the product promotion. So many questions.... :funny:
tar 14 started in los alamitos, california at the military base 100% correct my friends dad works at the military baseI was just coming to post the link (http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/3679930/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html), I believe it.
posted by future contestant. Post 20 in the Survivor Sucks TAR14 Spoiler Thread. Could be total bull but thought I would post it! :duno:
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TAR 7 Spoiler - Submitted on the News site!
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This was submitted on the news site, and thought that the forum would be a better place! This is about TAR 7, NOT the Race that is starting in November:
The race will start at Edwards AFB in California. I heard from a friend who works there the show is working with Public Affairs from the base. The taping should be near the end of November.
Yes, it was November 3. Whoever guessed the time of 4:45-5:15 was just about spot on. It was indeed a Pitstop because we could see through a side gate the check-in mat, a greeter dressed as Mozart (I'm assuming a man), and Phil. Phil was dressed in jacket, hat, and gloves and looked cold. It was chilly that night but it was a good chilly!
The exact location of the Pitstop was just inside the inner courtyard on the left-hand side. In the Forum Hellbrun overview photo, you see four photo icons/squares in a line across the courtyard when you enter it from the long entry road. The Pitstop was located between the first and second icons on the left.
I'm including two more photos of the team of two women. Not very good ones, but then again, your photo people might have some fun. Finally, there's a photo of the cars the next morning. My wife went jogging out to Hellbrunn at about 6:30am. She said that they'd closed up shop, so it looks like there were no day-late stragglers like there sometimes are (which must drive them insane).
What else? I overheard camera/sound folks expressing frustrations about their teams not having a clue but nothing very specific. It seems after teams check in, their camera/sound folks are done for the day. At different times, crews climbed into a black van and were whisked off into the Hellbrunn grounds, I'm assuming to wherever there was a buffet for staff since it was dinner time, but I have no proof of that.
All the best and good luck with your research!
No photo of Phil, sorry! I could've been a punk and whipped out my camera while the man guarding the gate was telling me all about what was going on, but I didn't have the nerve.(I sent Chateau's pic for confirmation--peach)
The Pitstop pinpointing is good.
Regarding the gory slime: at first, I thought they'd been involved in a Halloween event even though it was Nov. 3. Halloween is celebrated here but not like it is at home. They sell some "Scream" masks in the stores--that's about it. Anyway, my wife guessed that they could've been taking part in some local custom, maybe something with beer brewing or cheese making. BUT the woman in the car I first saw as well as the older man and woman whom we saw at Hellbrunn had the stuff on them in places you'd figure you would clean up right away, like on your face. It's almost as if they were made up like that and were expected to leave it on. But again, I have no proof. There was some slime on one of the cars that I passed by. I should've taken a sample! By the way, the team of two women appeared to have no slime on them whatsoever which would imply they had a choice in a previous activity. A Detour?
As I thought more about it today, I do remember a crew member saying something about climbing a mountain earlier in the day. Something how his team person saw arrows pointing downward, but she thought it was a trick, so she went back up the mountain. Again, that was a fleeting conversation and I may be messing up the details.
could do 4. Doubt it though!! The f/f team are african american. Are they or is it just the photo!
The girls were nowhere near last! When we left Hellbrunn, there were only five or six white cars there. The next day, my wife took the photo with some dozen cars. No, I have a feeling that it was going to be a late night because we left at 6 p.m. or so and there had been no sign of anyone else arriving. Again, my wife is sure that by 6:30 a.m. the next day, all had been wrapped up. She ran through the courtyard where the Pitstop had been, and it was all cleaned up.
more just in: :lol:QuoteThe girls were nowhere near last! When we left Hellbrunn, there were only five or six white cars there. The next day, my wife took the photo with some dozen cars. No, I have a feeling that it was going to be a late night because we left at 6 p.m. or so and there had been no sign of anyone else arriving. Again, my wife is sure that by 6:30 a.m. the next day, all had been wrapped up. She ran through the courtyard where the Pitstop had been, and it was all cleaned up.
:duno: What the heck is the dude/dudette with the backpack carrying? (long, cylindrical, silvery thingie). The other couple seem to be carryinfg something also. Too early for the Travelocity gnomes, ya think?
The girls were nowhere near last! When we left Hellbrunn, there were only five or six white cars there. The next day, my wife took the photo with some dozen cars. No, I have a feeling that it was going to be a late night because we left at 6 p.m. or so and there had been no sign of anyone else arriving. Again, my wife is sure that by 6:30 a.m. the next day, all had been wrapped up. She ran through the courtyard where the Pitstop had been, and it was all cleaned up.
Guess I'd put this here! CBS must either be very impressed or very angry...
Yay!! More dirt!! Thought the well had run dry on info from here in Romania, but just got this email from a friend here in Brasov:
"So I sat next to a guy at the wedding yesterday who is a cop in brasov and was assigned as a driver to some of the supporting crew for the amazing race when it came through. from bucharest they had to take the train to brasov, and they went to the black church where they found out their road block. i don't remember what the first one was but the second was something to do with a gypsy village. he didn't know what else they did in brasov but from brasov they went to bran and he said he didn't think they went to Bran Castle but they did have their pit stop. in all he said they spent about 3 days in romania and from here they went to russia."
The crazy thing is I was eating lunch about a minute's walk from the Black Church on Wednesday - if we'd timed it a little better, I might've seen some more action!!!
Yay!! More dirt!! Thought the well had run dry on info from here in Romania, but just got this email from a friend here in Brasov:Oh thank you romaniafan! You rock!! :yess: and Russia again! Wow!
"So I sat next to a guy at the wedding yesterday who is a cop in brasov and was assigned as a driver to some of the supporting crew for the amazing race when it came through. from bucharest they had to take the train to brasov, and they went to the black church where they found out their road block. i don't remember what the first one was but the second was something to do with a gypsy village. he didn't know what else they did in brasov but from brasov they went to bran and he said he didn't think they went to Bran Castle but they did have their pit stop. in all he said they spent about 3 days in romania and from here they went to russia."
The crazy thing is I was eating lunch about a minute's walk from the Black Church on Wednesday - if we'd timed it a little better, I might've seen some more action!!!
I'd been hoping for maybe Turkey, or Scandanavia, but Russia is good too.
Sochi will be good because that city will host the 2014 Winter Olympics there. And here's the info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sochi#2014_Winter_Olympics :tup:I'd been hoping for maybe Turkey, or Scandanavia, but Russia is good too.
I would be surprised if they go back to St. Petersburg or Moscow. I think it will probably be somewhere in southern Russia, like Sochi. Some of Southern Russia borders the eastern part of the Black Sea and Romania borders the same body of water on the west, so it wouldn't be that far.
I have heard rumors of Turkey being visited.
I bet he read it here, and psssst its password ;)I have heard rumors of Turkey being visited.
Cool. Where did you hear these Rumours?
I bet he read it here, and psssst its password ;)I have heard rumors of Turkey being visited.
Cool. Where did you hear these Rumours?
I have heard rumors of Turkey being visited.I've also heard rumors the racers are eating turkey somewhere on this race, but nothing confirmed. :P
Amazing Race (http://seriouslyromania.com/2008/11/06/amazing-race/)
November 6, 2008 in général
And for those of you who are fans of the show, the Romania episode will be full of classics: gymnasts, gypsies, and vampires. Through some connections of mine here, I found out that the cast travels to nearby Bran Castle, engages in a challenge that included coffins and stakes, and visits a gypsy village (possibly in search of a clue). Of course, some of it plays off of the cultural myths about Romania. There is no question that some Romanians are interested in selling vampire kitsch to spook-seeking tourists, regardless of the relative lack of native tradition actually concerning the monsters. Much of the rest of the population at least tolerates it. And The Amazing Race clearly aims to take advantage.
But the show exploits more than the vampire legend. The most intriguing element of The Amazing Race episode in Romania relates to the gypsy village, which was, strangely, a fake. Constructed specially for the show in an area with a relatively low gypsy population, the artificial village was “populated” with ethnic Romanians dressed up in gypsy attire. Yes, even the supposed gypsies were impostors, as authentic as their costumes may have appeared. All this was done for the benefit of a reality television show. And tourism, of course.
could do 4. Doubt it though!! The f/f team are african american. Are they or is it just the photo!
I can't tell Kiwi... In this one she sort of looks African American:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14SalzburgPitstopfmChase2.jpg)
They were definitely not African American. I would guess that they were mid- to late- twenties, but it was getting dark so I could be totally off. The one in the pink had brown hair, the other had lighter hair, but not blond. The one in the pink dropped her water bottle, which was white. The camera man got the drop and the pick up on film, then they all started off again. They were totally heading the wrong way, convinced that lights on a pond area must be lighting the Pitstop. It took them a good five minutes to figure out where they really needed to be.
I worry that Michael will pre-jinx them :'(
I worry that Michael will pre-jinx them :'(
I took this picture too, I believe these are the cars they were driving. The dates that they were there: Nov 2nd and 3rd. Glad to be a help!
I think you raised the issue tonight. :lol:I worry that Michael will pre-jinx them :'(
NOT SAYING A WORD.
(until I see their pictures and decide which one is hottest)
Geez, what's with everybody turning all the threads into the michael is a curse thread tongiht lmao
For those who have not been to Salzburg (and even those that have), the Travel Channel from 12:00 to 12:30pm today is reprising the Salzburg episode of Samantha Brown's Passport to Europe. I don't remember it that well from an earlier viewing, but all of these Passport to Europe episodes follow a formula that is pretty good.
Locarno
Salzburg
Romania
Somewhere in Asia
Somewhere Else in Asia
Hong Kong
Bali
Alice Springs, Australia
Canberra, Australia
Christchurch, New Zeland
Wellington New Zealand
U.S. Finish
By the way, mention some spoilers for The Amazing Race on your blog and watch your traffic double.
That would truly be aDon't forget the European version if it ever gets off the ground! :groan:nightmarespoiling opportunity. Fixed! :funny:
Just went through all in this thread .... so TAR14 & TARI is filming right now ...We're already 15 days into TAR14 and have not had a sighting since Brasov Romania on Nov 5th and thanks to romaniafan's info they stayed there for 3 days then, whether production crews or teams went to Russia, again thanks to romaniafan, remains to be seen. We have lost the trail *sigh* but more sightings will be discovered our detectives are :jam:.
WOW! :hearts:
The PROD Team become bigger and bigger ....
While TARA3's finale is next week and TAR13 is also almost to the end .... now they are filming ....
so RFF Detectives are also start to work ......... right?
Soon later TARA4 is coming too ....
yeah, there could be spoilers out there right now we just can't find them. hopefully some more are found soon :'(
:wohoo: :jumpy: :jumpy: :wohoo:Oh someone would have found it eventually. Thanks to dhall's sighting this has to be us!!
So TAR 14? In Phuket?? Oh happy days!!
Good job puddin!! :hearts:
And as I expected it's all a shameI wonder if sham was meant.
Why do I think I've seen them before?
Ahem. Auburn is Alabama, lol. And we just beat the pants off them today in football! :yess:Oh I'm so dumb! And I watch college foot ball all the time! lol
TOI is Tourismus Interlaken, and "care," I'm guessing, is the group or committee that's tasked with handling WRP.
Thanks for your e-mail and excitement and I'm glad to be able to help
patching some of your Amazing Race puzzle!
We were on a train on Nov 2 to Spiez, Switzerland (and then transferring to
another train to Interlaken) when flocks of cameras and people got on in
Domodossola, Italy. I thought some sort of Italian celebrities were getting on
or something, but apparently they were Americans. They came around in our car
asking a few people 'around' us who were the locals from Italy (we boarded in
Milan) talking in a quiet manner, telling them that they are doing a travel show
without saying what it is. But it was obvious from their questions that for
people doing a travel show they had done NO research about where they were
filming (that's when we figured out what show it really was.)
We overheard they were quizzing people on the train for a certain name or place
in Interlaken, including talking to the Italian couple (both of whom spoke good
English and were well-traveled) sitting next to us. The team in on our car was
the ones in the photo, wearing orange shirts. We all rode to Spiez, and got off
and transferred to the train to Interlaken. It was probably a little after noon
when they boarded and it was about 2.30-3pm when we all got off in Interlaken. I
took photos of them at the train station when they were rushing into taxis and
heading somewhere. Each team seems to have a cameraman and a sound engineer
assigned and closely followed.
I also saw other 3 teams that got off (I don't really know how many are there in
total though). One older couple looking less agitated than the rest, another one
of looking-like sisters wearing green shirts, and the other team with an African
American lady. It's kind of funny that when we got off at Spiez awaiting quietly
to get on the next train, these teams all seemed scrambled and almost 'acted'
like they were going to miss a train and ran all over to get to the right
platform.. which was the one right next to where we got off. It was a tiny
station!
I'm attaching you another non-zoomed photo at the station too, taking at the
same time. I'm guessing that the older guy in there was the taxi driver.
I also saw other 3 teams that got off (I don't really know how many are there in
total though). One older couple looking less agitated than the rest, another one
of looking-like sisters wearing green shirts, and the other team with an African
American lady. It's kind of funny that when we got off at Spiez awaiting quietly
to get on the next train, these teams all seemed scrambled and almost 'acted'
like they were going to miss a train and ran all over to get to the right
platform.. which was the one right next to where we got off. It was a tiny
station!
Interlaken has 2 train schedules, East and West. It is the East which is most relevant to arriving from Spiez.
I meant they were looking alike, but perhaps they are just friends.
I didn’t really hear what they were asking for during that time, but my husband thinks he heard they were asking how to find a person in Interlaken.
What about the old couple what were they like. Gosh I hope they make it far!!
Heee... to you guys, old is probably thirty! :groan:
Heee... to you guys, old is probably thirty! :groan:
30 is anicent. Old is like 24 for me. (just kidding LOL)
*back to searching blogs*
New Blog.........
Sunday, November 16, 2008
I love it here
This place is amazing.
Ok. I had always heard that and went "yeah yeah it's probably ok", but it really is a great place.
Beautiful view, cool people and great food.
Oh yeah, plus I was drinking $3 Long Island Iced Teas last night.
I am in the hotel internet, so it is kind of expensive and I don't want to be long.
Exciting news- on my domestic flight going Bangkok- Phuket, the Amazing Race contestents caught the same flight. And as I expected it's all a shame. Camera crews set up and take multiple shots of them running to the ticket counter, and then they got off the plane and ran down the stairs, only to get held up by customs. Stupid f'cking Americans.
Ahh they were wankers. They yelled at the Air stewardess because their large cameras didn't fit in the overhead lockers, they walked around the plane the whole flight to be sure no one was filming them and they were the biggest bunch of knobs.
But hey what do you really expect from American reality shows??
Hope everything is good back in Brisbane...
Peace.
eta: posted at 10:15 AM
....
And I must admit it wasnt so much the contestants who were jerks, more the production crew. I spoke to one of the contestants, an asian looking man with his girlfriend.
Nice guy.
Also two older men.
The camera guys and production bothered me though, they seemed very pretentious, roaming around the plane like they owned it. As an Australian I do not appreciate this, as i believe everyone is the same, regardless of their fame, wealth, etc.
They all had a picture of a monkey and were looking for that.
our flight details were:
15/nov
Bangkok- phuket
thai airways
flight TG203- 0730
Sorry no pictures the camera crew acted like body guards.
Yes they did do multiple takes, one funny incedent was when we arrived all the teams ran, just to be held up by crowds and customs..that made me laugh.
...
hope this helps,
Nothing more... descriptive? 'Cause if that's all the teams had they'd be running around in all directions! (Like we are...)
Would it be a statue or something? (I know, I know, girl on a swing in Auckland...)
Found this (http://bp2.blogger.com/_cLbKNlAvgiY/Ro9RTLl1s3I/AAAAAAAAARs/SA5cX1dhqkA/s1600-h/Statue-Phuket.jpg) in Phuket and this in Krabi town...
(http://thestar.com.my/archives/2008/8/23/lifetravel/f_23monkey.jpg)
I'm asking, I'm asking! :groan: :pull :lol:Please ask him "Did you see or touch any monkeys?" :monkey
While waiting at the Delhi airport on Thursday night Nov.13, I spotted Phil sitting by himself at our boarding area.
He was on his way to Bangkok, but said he was scouting a location in Delhi.
We talked about the show, his career and family, and he asked us what we were doing in Delhi.
Told him we are real fans and he thanked us for that.
I was very impressed with how friendly he was. Got two great pictures with him.
We talked for about ten minutes, but his flight was leaving, so he had to return to his boarding area.
What a nice guy !!!!
Lucky ME !!!!!!!
From TWoP!A Phil sighting! Nice!! Thanks peach and thanks to ChristineC :)
http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=2667921&view=findpost&p=11051412
Thanks to ChristineC
Just Tuned InQuoteWhile waiting at the Delhi airport on Thursday night Nov.13, I spotted Phil sitting by himself at our boarding area.
He was on his way to Bangkok, but said he was scouting a location in Delhi.
We talked about the show, his career and family, and he asked us what we were doing in Delhi.
Told him we are real fans and he thanked us for that.
I was very impressed with how friendly he was. Got two great pictures with him.
We talked for about ten minutes, but his flight was leaving, so he had to return to his boarding area.
What a nice guy !!!!
Lucky ME !!!!!!!
Remember that we had a rumor of them going on into Russia?? He could be connecting from there, right?Romania, if details are correct, they spent 3 days there so Nov 5 6 7 then off to Russia. Gosh looking at a map and there are so many options. How about Turkmenistan?
New Blog.........
Sunday, November 16, 2008
I love it here
This place is amazing.
Ok. I had always heard that and went "yeah yeah it's probably ok", but it really is a great place.
Beautiful view, cool people and great food.
Oh yeah, plus I was drinking $3 Long Island Iced Teas last night.
I am in the hotel internet, so it is kind of expensive and I don't want to be long.
Exciting news- on my domestic flight going Bangkok- Phuket, the Amazing Race contestents caught the same flight. And as I expected it's all a shame. Camera crews set up and take multiple shots of them running to the ticket counter, and then they got off the plane and ran down the stairs, only to get held up by customs. Stupid f'cking Americans.
Ahh they were wankers. They yelled at the Air stewardess because their large cameras didn't fit in the overhead lockers, they walked around the plane the whole flight to be sure no one was filming them and they were the biggest bunch of knobs.
But hey what do you really expect from American reality shows??
Hope everything is good back in Brisbane...
Peace.
eta: posted at 10:15 AM
Our Aussie blogger has been kind enough to share some more info with us-- :ty3: !!
I asked was it production or the teams who were being jerks, :lol:
(bolds are mine)Quote....
And I must admit it wasnt so much the contestants who were jerks, more the production crew. I spoke to one of the contestants, an asian looking man with his girlfriend.
Nice guy.
Also two older men.
The camera guys and production bothered me though, they seemed very pretentious, roaming around the plane like they owned it. As an Australian I do not appreciate this, as i believe everyone is the same, regardless of their fame, wealth, etc.
They all had a picture of a monkey and were looking for that.
our flight details were:
15/nov
Bangkok- phuket
thai airways
flight TG203- 0730
Sorry no pictures the camera crew acted like body guards.
Yes they did do multiple takes, one funny incedent was when we arrived all the teams ran, just to be held up by crowds and customs..that made me laugh.
...
hope this helps,
I don't think they're going to skip Africa again. Also, they haven't done the Africa-Asia connection since TAR 7 (or TAR10 going in the reverse), so I think the somewheres are in Asia could be in Africa instead. We haven't done North Africa in ages - maybe Tunisia or (if they're really adventurous) Libya.
Welcome to the forum selkie :hithere:
Catching up on "Destination Unknown" (http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/earlyshow/main500202.shtml#)
• Maggie's Dubai Adventure
• Russ in Athens
• Russ enjoys Greek food -- in Greece!
• Julie in Paris
The only one that has not had a destination is Harry Smith I guess? So with that I'll guess we should keep our eyes on the Early Show next week for Phil's return? to perhaps wrap up the series.
:whoop: I saw reindeer being chased by a fat guy in a red suit on Bloor street - oh wait - that was the Santa Claus parade.
I live in Toronto and I have seen clueboxes downtown and i believe some are posted on this siteI dunno if that's a USA or Israel version, but you'll might get a clue on this link:
When i went for a close look it looked like an AMAZING RACE USA one
:hearts: :wohoo: :hearts:probably that was a non-elimination and a 9th out of 11 legs on Phuket, Thailand if it was 4 teams remained was sighted on that race. And going from that city to the US for the final race is too far, I think. If so, then the 10th leg is located somewhere in the North Pacific Rim countries but since none form my country [the Philippines] haven't sighted and heard the news yet that they'll gonna make a race again since season 5, and the possible places for the 10th leg of the race before going back to the US are Canada, South Korea, China, Japan, Saipan, Northern Marianas, Marshall Is., Papua or even in Vladivostok, Russia.
Thanks puddin!!
Oh why does the camera have to block the other team member, lol?
Only 4 teams left???
Finish line should be anytime now...
:hearts: :wohoo: :hearts:Referring to my timeline on the Timelines, Timetables and Flight Information thread, I have Phuket as the 8th leg of 11. There are 3 legs left after Phuket if I have made correct assessments of AR14. It is a given that there are 3 teams left for the final leg. So if one of leg 9 or 10 is NEL or TBC, then the inference that the 4 teams seen in Phuket are what is left appears to be true. The other possibilities is that both of those legs are elimination, in which case there are 5 teams and one was not seen by the observer, or double non-elimination legs in which case there are only 3 teams left..
Thanks puddin!!
Oh why does the camera have to block the other team member, lol?
Only 4 teams left???
Finish line should be anytime now...
based on the legs that looks like a F/F team to me....(the legs of the hidden teamate)Of course you think that it looks like 2 females Michael, now get your head out of your pants. :colors
rob007
11-20-08, 05:22 PM (EST)
"Amazing Race 14 Started today in Seattle"
Hey guys I'm new to the forum, but I am a huge fan of the show and after what happened today I had to just join and share with someone. The Amazing Race 14 started today in Seattle, WA. I am on travel in Seattle and while at the Public Market this morning I had the chance to see 5 teams come through the market headed for Pier 66. I actually had one team stop and ask for directions. What a thrill. I love the show and just had to tell someone. By the way I wish they would do an eposide where they reveal all the behind the scenes information such as what happens at pit stops and so on....
the finale 2 days ago?Cute and can count, your going to make a fine husband someday Michael :kuss:
that would make it a 21 day race (oct 31st - nov 20)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/phuket.jpg)You find the best stuff Slowhatch! :yess: :jam:
I'm reasonably certain they're entering Rama IX park off of Chao Fah road; there's no Rama V park in Phuket that I could find. Compare the plants and the orange/rattan looking building in the background to this (http://www.mapjack.com/?iQdwT3PLXcwD).
It's possible that the male guy isn't heavily built. In any case, we either have an all-female team or the Asian couple -- and I think somebody said the Asian couple makes it to Phuket.From the eyewitness/on the Phuket flight *one of the contestants, an asian looking man with his girlfriend. Nice guy
Belle Book
See and that is why Michael is beloved on this board.....Heee... to you guys, old is probably thirty! :groan:
30 is anicent. Old is like 24 for me. (just kidding LOL)
*back to searching blogs*
One reader tells TV Tonight, “I was in Sydney this weekend and they were filming new Amazing Race. They were at the Opera House. Two teams came up running with camera crews -I was so excited! I think they were after Mrs Macquarie’s Chair. I wanted to follow, them I love the show!”
According to news.com.au it was also in Manly: ….for an hour or so there was a sudden stampede of earnest, sweaty, tired types with backpacks clambering on the sand.
It’s not the first time TAR has visited Sydney, previously visiting the Harbour Bridge and Harry’s Cafe de Wheels. It’s also raced through Brissy, Perth, Adelaide, Cairn, Coober Pedy and Darwin.
Of the 14th season, Keoghan has said, “It’s incredible. It’s amazing, quite frankly. We’ll be heading out for the 14th time to go around the world. We keep having this opportunity and for me, it’s the best job I’ve ever had and I love it. And thankfully the viewers love it and it’s always nice to be employed and when you get employed. You get to go around the world and shoot great adventures with people and with an audience, there’s nothing more exciting than that.”
Source: news.com.au, CBS
Today @ 11:27 am Post#26
From the very unlikely but let-it-be-known department:
I'm driving into Tacoma, WA this morning along WA-509 around 8am when I saw boards saying "Filming in progress along 509, 6:30 -11:30am". Save for some cops waiting at the edges of this area, I saw no signs of a major film crew or anything they looked like fixed cameras in place. The area right before 509 dumps into downtown Tacoma (crossing to 705) was wetted down, however.
(Downtown Tacoma map; the 509 is the far right of it)
Now, again, this could be a legitimate film shoot, but the schedule is 1) about 23-24 days after the race started in late October, so returning to the US about now would be correct and 2) this follows the usual TAR tradition of an early morning Sunday end date. If I wasn't busy, I would have checked out a few places for TAR flags but I didn't see anything.
Now, why'd they be on the 509 would be likely one of two things (as if they were coming in from anywhere else, they'd be on the I-5): they could have had a task at one of the dockyards to the east, and then had to travel to a point proper inside Tacoma (for example, Defiance Park , which is the upper left part of the map), which makes the 509 appropriate, or they are trying to get to downtown Tacoma proper (like, for example, the Glass museum, a block away from 509/705) which they would come up I-5, onto the 705, and then onto 509 and into the city.
Again, I saw no flags, no film crew, no circling copters, so this simply could be a real film shoot, however it can't hurt to hope :-) (unfortunately today is really foggy, so panaramic shoots would not be great).
More Filming in Downtown Tacoma - Tomorrow
(20. November 2008, 13:19 ) ~
A film crew will shut down Commerce Street between S. 15th and S. 17th Streets on Friday, Nov. 21. The time frame the production coordinator has provided is 2 p.m. 5 p.m. However, closure could occur as early as 1 p.m. During the closure, Pierce Transit will operate the Tacoma Link service using Pierce Transit buses.
Heres the word:
Itll be a Toyota commercial. Theyll be shooting in front of the Convention Center on Friday. Then, on Sunday, theyll be down at the 21st Street Bridge and the Museum of Glass
http://www.exit133.com/4876/more-filming-in-downtown-tacoma-tomorrow
I went to a local net-forum of TAR fans in china and someone posted saying TAR14 was visiting china. they saw Phil and the production crew. more than 40 people replied (that's a large number of population in the forum)Thanks for the info TARA! I believe this is true. Can you provide a link to the China forum?
and more detailed information was post out
sorry, phil and Mr. Van Munster. I love your show so much, but people here just want to know more about it.
so here it is:
date: nov.18th
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ocation: Guilin, Guangxi Province, China
a beautiful city with world famous
official tourisim site http://www.guilintourist.com/
Two crusted movements of earth took place about 200 and 180 million years age thrusting the limestone sediments out of the sea bottom. They were forced upwards more than 200 meters to the surface. This Karst formation was molded through many years of erosion by the wind and rain to become the hills and rocks with bizarre shapes. There are numerous complete Karst (limestone sites), which are of high scientific value and tour value.
Strongly recommended by the World Tourism Organization (WTO), Guilin is one of the most picturesque places in the world, making it one of the most ideal tourist destinations. With such an abundance of attractions, it has always possessed a special charm and appeal to visitors, especially to foreign visitors.
a girl said her boyfriend helped the production, seemed like to be one of the local assistant.
she claimed that when her bf told her that, she instantly thought about TAR and could confirm that.
they lived in Sheraton and the pit top was Sun-Moon-Tower.
and a mountain named Di-Tsai was also visited.
They also have been to a steel factory.
It was also said teams had to go to a hair salon to wash their hair.
Phil was described very tall and handsome by her bf.
And for security reasons, all assistants have been asked to remain their position after everyone is on the plane, the left the same day.
so far, no photo evidence.
P.S some others said people see a lot of foreign people running in the subway in Shanghai days b4 that which the city was visited in season 6.
pure spec. but
Leg 1: L.A to Locarno, Switzerland
Leg 2: Switzerland to Domodossola, Italy and Interlaken, Switzerland
Leg 3: Switzerland to Salzburg, Austria
Leg 4: Austria to Brasov/Bucharest, Romania
Legs 5/6: African Countries
Leg 7: Russia: Unsure of timeline?
Leg 8: Phuket
Leg 9: Bangkok
Leg 10: Guilin, China
Finale: Back to homesoil!
I am searching amazing race 14 while i was seeing this sentences in wikipedia.
People in australia have spotted racers in Sydney filming for the 14th season at the Sydney Opera House
Three airlines, twelve customer service representatives and multiple people yelling at each other in Mandarin later we found ourselves on an Air China flight back to Tokyo. Were still not sure why or what they were screaming but it seemed to be the norm for the airport. That said, it was a lovely airport.
During this ordeal we couldnt help but notice two groups of travelers flashing American passports being flanked by their own teams of cameramen looking a little too giddy to be at the airport in Beijing at 8am. Oddly enough, it seems that we found ourselves in the middle of CBS Amazing Race with two teams on our flight. Without giving too much away, I can assure you that all of the panic and suspense of the actual show comes from some really great editing. On this particular day we found ourselves watching the double mint twins in matching sweatshirts, bleached teeth and badly dyed red hair preen the entire time for the cameras.
M had to remind me a few times that something are better thought than said aloud and that when calling people twits and such its best to do it at a volume they cant hear you.
Forthunately the flight itself wasnt bad as a nap and bag of M&Ms calmed me down considerable after being cut in front of by the camera crew multiple times had me rather annoyed.
Still we had quite a ways to go and even bumped into the host Phil Keoghan as he waited for his flight to film the finale in Hawaii. Its important to note that the running, fighting and begging for seats that you see on TV didnt really happen and oh yeah, Phil flies business class.
I was just about to post that one.
Bet they're glad not to be in Bangkok this week...
I wonder is that is the new 2nd Fast Forward.......instead of shaved head, now it is a bad red dye job!per the Guilin info posted by TARA maybe? http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17941.0.html
wow! after 9 seasons we will have a "new" twin team hmmm but what's with the double mint remark? I don't get it...hopefully it's a FF team ;p remember the poster who said that he saw a "sister looking team" maybe that's them or probably a new one that hasn't been spotted yet! ^^ hopefully CBS will show a TAR14 preview in the finale *crossed fingers ^^
peach and I were just on the phone saying " I wonder when Michael would write......" OMG F/F FTW :lol:
oh BOY!!!
From a blog dated 11/25 but describing events that occured 11/21-23 as best as I can tell: Starts at Beijing airport!QuoteThree airlines, twelve “customer service” representatives and multiple people yelling at each other in Mandarin later we found ourselves on an Air China flight back to Tokyo. We’re still not sure why or what they were screaming but it seemed to be the norm for the airport. That said, it was a lovely airport.
During this ordeal we couldn’t help but notice two groups of travelers flashing American passports being flanked by their own teams of cameramen looking a little too giddy to be at the airport in Beijing at 8am. Oddly enough, it seems that we found ourselves in the middle of CBS’ “Amazing Race” with two teams on our flight. Without giving too much away, I can assure you that all of the panic and suspense of the actual show comes from some really great editing. On this particular day we found ourselves watching the double mint twins in matching sweatshirts, bleached teeth and badly dyed red hair preen the entire time for the cameras.
M had to remind me a few times that something are better thought than said aloud and that when calling people “twits” and such it’s best to do it at a volume they can’t hear you.
Forthunately the flight itself wasn’t bad as a nap and bag of M&Ms calmed me down considerable after being cut in front of by the camera crew multiple times had me rather annoyed.
Still we had quite a ways to go and even bumped into the host Phil Keoghan as he waited for his flight to film the finale in Hawaii. It’s important to note that the running, fighting and begging for seats that you see on TV didn’t really happen and oh yeah, Phil flies business class.
And no surprise to those of us who are following the TIMELINE thread, but I am pleased to be able to confirm from an independent source, that the race did finish 100% on or before 11/23, and almost certainly either on or just before 11/22. :angel:
You know how astronomers find new stars by looking where there's a blank spot in the night sky? Yeah that's kind of the way it is with TAR.Your awesome Neobie! thank you for the new info!
Popped by the Phuket Zoo, and the staff there were very reluctant about saying anything to do with filming! There were some pretty lame excuses ("Oh there are many people." "Oh I forget."), so I can pretty much confirm that this is one of our racers' locations!
Which, sad to say, kind of means a monkey show is slated to appear on our TV screens soon.
I have some information regarding TAR 14, but unfortunately the website won't send me an activation email, so I am passing this info on the only way possible for me at the moment.
One of my mothers friends saw several teams in Thailand and because she is a TAR fan, she recognized them straight away and began talking to them.
One of the teams was the father/son team
One was the young dating team in orange, one of whom was deaf.
The third team was a team of two male dwarfs (possibly the 'two short men')
She spoke with the deaf woman for a long time in the airport, and she whispered 'we're in a race' to her. The deaf woman also said to trip the dwarfs, they aren't nice people.
There were camera men with every team who were being very careful about people taking photos. In spite of this, she said she managed to get several good photos of the teams she saw.
I will send the photos when I can get my hands on them.
She "talked" a long time w/ the deaf woman? Not unless she she signs! :snicker:We don't know that she doesn't sign? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, I don't think someone would go through so much trouble to make up a story you know? If its fake I'll take the blame so says Michael :D
Notice in the picture that they are taping her, but the sound guy is occupied with the other van.2 vans because there are several teams. And who says because she is deaf she cannot speak? even so wouldn't the male be recorded...
Maybe the sound guy isn't recording her because she isn't speaking - just pointing out stuff on the paper.
And why are there two vans?
Hello everybody, Michael's emailer here.
Unless my mum is lying to me, and that would mean in turn that mum's friend is lying to her, the info is legit.
It came from a fan of the race, that's why she took all the photos.
And RE: The deaf girl, do we all remember Christa from Survivor a while back who spoke and read lips?
I think this woman would speak to most people because, let's face it, how many people know how to sign?
About that filming crew, well two braided pigtailed twins in backpacks ran by us as a film crew chased them —we were watching the Amazing Race!! We figured it was the German television version.
Found this from a blog...not sure exactly WHERE or WHEN, but it was posted on Nov 26th..Already posted Michael, in the Israel thread.QuoteAbout that filming crew, well two braided pigtailed twins in backpacks ran by us as a film crew chased them we were watching the Amazing Race!! We figured it was the German television version.
I dont want to sound off, but when i look at the girl in Orange she just looks deaf to me idk why.What the hell? How does someone look deaf? *groan*
But many deaf people dont wear hearing aids [Marlee Matlin doesnt wear any, Christie on Survivor Didnt]. Also she didnt say how deaf the girls was, she could just be deaf in one ear.
Found this from a blog...not sure exactly WHERE or WHEN, but it was posted on Nov 26th..Already posted Michael, in the Israel thread.QuoteAbout that filming crew, well two braided pigtailed twins in backpacks ran by us as a film crew chased them —we were watching the Amazing Race!! We figured it was the German television version.I dont want to sound off, but when i look at the girl in Orange she just looks deaf to me idk why.What the hell? How does someone look deaf? *groan*
But many deaf people dont wear hearing aids [Marlee Matlin doesnt wear any, Christie on Survivor Didnt]. Also she didnt say how deaf the girls was, she could just be deaf in one ear.
Wow, you guys are really good TAR detectives!
Do we have a temporary map in place for the destinations so far?
Sukhothai, Thailand Novemeber 18th
"We ran into The Amazing Race Asia 4 and gave these 2 racers a lift"
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/tar.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/tar2.jpg)
AR14 Timeline(revised 11/26):
Nov. 14 leg 8 leave unknown location #3 to arrive Bangkok the next morning
Nov. 15 fly Bangkok to Phuket apparently on TG203 0740 0850, then tasks in Phuket area
Nov. 16 leg 9 fly from Phuket to ?
Nov. 18 leg 10 fly from ? to Guilin
Nov. 20 leg 11 Guilin to Beijing, then tasks in Beijing and start pitstop
It's really such a pity to be looking at the board, not looking at the city...
We await with bated breath on those Photos, and as soon as somebody ID's the places, we can look at potential tasks in those places.Those too Coutzy! Then we can put the pieces together! :yess:
I'm afraid we have no other information. The production crew would not
reveal anything.
The reporter followed the couple pictured until they arrived at their
destination, where it seemed as if the other contestants had already
arrived and moved on to their next tasks.
Regards
Nice overnight research Coutzy!
No wonder y'all were so chipper! :funny:
Alright guys, I'm out of Thailand! *phew* Thanks for everyone's concern!Good stuff Neobie :jumpy:, Guilin confirmed :jumpy:!
Called up the Sheraton in Guilin, and they've been nice enough to tell us that production started arriving in dribs and drabs on the 10th, and they all left on the 20th. Remembering Salvador's whiteboard, that means teams would most likely have taken flights out on the 20th as well. How does that fit in?
Also called up the Sheraton and Meridien in Shanghai, but they have no record of WRP Group. Any other ideas we could try, or should we rule Shanghai out?
Pssst.... the answer to the mystery location is in the Seychelles.
Not yet. Hopefully I'll be seeing her Saturday at a function for the tennis club.
Mum's friend said that she'll send em to us.I'm excited! I can't wait to see them Coutzy!!
Unfortunately, she also said that a month ago, so now I'm growing less and less excited about the photos.
:welcome2: to RFF pashy!
We have a TAR Israel thread here:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17852.0.html
As long as you fully credit us for any info you use, AND provide a link back to us, we are pretty happy to share!
Good luck! :waves:
Heee...kogs? You have to translate for us!
oh. But ours is like 1 month before not a week before lol!!
Must be my American Version mind thinking. Speaking of that! Spoilers seem to have dimmed down havent they! :cmas4
Dubai was also used in TAR10. How can we forget the demise of Peter/Sarah there?!
Both Georgia and Uzbekistan remain on the State Dept warning list, so I would think those might be unlikely.
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_1764.html
Just a speculation here: Is it possible that before going to China, teams go to an Oceanian country, say Australia or even Papua New Guinea before going to Guillin, China?Alvin06, I will do my best to give you my takes on your questions:
Another question, as for the country before Thailand, is it possible to have a northeast African country like Egypt (since geographically, it's quite near Romania and perhaps other intermediate countries in between?)
I also feel Georgia, USA is not a site for this year's race simply due to the fact the producers do not know any other section of the country besides Los Angeles. :P
How do you guys and gals find your information? I have always been fascinated by the extreme amount of data that is placed on the site. I want to help, but have no earthly idea how to even begin.Thanks for the kind words Brian, our detectives are the best of the best :yess: :jam:
Keep up the grand work!!
Happy Holidays to all!!!
Brian
Just bringing this over from Sucks:I don't know what to make of it either hakushu but thanks for bringing it over. If I were Nickasingh I probably would have swiped it :lol:
Start with Post 224: credit to Nickasingh (http://www.survivorsucks.com/topic/41155?page=12)
Kinda weird that a month AFTER filming, the flag is still there. But it's at Bangkok, compared to Phuket were the sightings were held. Thoughts?
For mine:
1. I don't think it's any other race other than TAR14.
2. Red herring. Or not related to TAR at all.
3. Flag that was completely forgotten. Uh oh.
pictured here, a remnant of the old walled city of Guilin, the south gate entrance to the city...! This old gate, now restored to pristine condition, was built all the way back in the Tang Dynasty! It sits right next to Rong Hu and there is a long tunnel hidden behind the gate itself which you can actually walk through to get an idea of what it was like to enter the city in ancient times...!
Only the top post of importance:
在地铁一号线转二号线八号线的转换大厅里看到Phil和一群外国人...
但是没看到选手...
估计是在录制Phil讲述任务的片段吧
人上人下的可惜没几个人在关注Phil....
自己留心拍了照片!
"Saw Phil and a bunch of foreigners in the interchange hall between Lines 1 and 2/8...
No contestants though.
I think Phil was probably explaining a task.
People were coming and going, but no one was paying attention to Phil..."
Can't interpret the last line - something about taking a photo? But I don't see any photo there, do you?
Oh, the interchange station is Renmin/People's Square.
According to an interview with BVM in TV Guide (for week of January 5) teams will be visiting fewer airports (rah rah) and will suffer through a blizzard in Central Siberia and will have "Olympic-themed challenges in BeijingDamn my tvguide wasn't there today but thanks for the info Gman :jumpy: "Central Siberia" !!!!!!!!!!!
That can account for two missing locations. Central Siberia could mean a visit to either Novosibirsk or Irkutsk or Ulan-Ude or perhaps Krasnoyarsk And these three cities are connected to Beijing by a major rail link.
With the Beijing to Honolulu sighting, would that mean Phuket-Guilin-Beijing-Hawaii, with Central Siberia coming before all of this? Would this also be the "Russia" that's supposed to come after Romania (edited, can't keep my E Europe countries straight)?Yes Neobie! Siberia after Romania unless of course they went somewhere Russia before Siberia. And as mentioned in the other threads, longer legs in 1 place which if course means less flying ( rah rah Gman :lol: )
Beijing again, huh? (This makes Shanghai unlikely...)
According to an interview with BVM in TV Guide (for week of January 5) teams will be visiting fewer airports (rah rah) and will suffer through a blizzard in Central Siberia and will have "Olympic-themed challenges in BeijingDamn my tvguide wasn't there today but thanks for the info Gman :jumpy: "Central Siberia" !!!!!!!!!!!
That can account for two missing locations. Central Siberia could mean a visit to either Novosibirsk or Irkutsk or Ulan-Ude or perhaps Krasnoyarsk And these three cities are connected to Beijing by a major rail link.
Anything else Gman?
According to an interview with BVM in TV Guide (for week of January 5) teams will be visiting fewer airports (rah rah) and will suffer through a blizzard in Central Siberia and will have "Olympic-themed challenges in Beijing
That can account for two missing locations. Central Siberia could mean a visit to either Novosibirsk or Irkutsk or Ulan-Ude or perhaps Krasnoyarsk And these three cities are connected to Beijing by a major rail link.
Leg 12? sorry am I being an idiot. This is a 11 leg race :umn:
12/17/2008 19:23:36
Subject: Re:DONT SHOOT ME -TAR 14 has started filming
TARinChina
CBS Community Member
Joined: 12/17/2008
We were in the Guangzhou China airport November 17th around 11pm and saw a team of two caucasian men wearing backpacks running through the airport with a cameraman and producer in tow. They were in the baggage claim area and were in a hurry to find something and stopped at hte information desk to ask directions. The cameraman was working to capture every move. The men were both short and appeared to be related. One had a fanny pack that was visible with red/yellow/back horizontal stripes on it. We went up to them and said "Are you with the Amazing Race?". They said "No", but we are waiting for cast pictures to see if they were telling the truth or not.
Do we believe BVM? Remember the so called Monsoon in India, TAR12, which never happened? :lol:
venzin77 RE: Is the Amazing Race in Locarno, Ticino?
Today, 3:52 PM EST
Yes the amazing race is in Switzerland y help one couple, y make police man job.
Mornig in Locarno, train Station, y help the couple Dustin & Kandice to go in Verzasca Valley. You see the the show and you see my ..... :)
Wiki/Wetpaint (http://amazingrace.wetpaint.com/thread/2031565/Is+the+Amazing+Race+in+Locarno,+Ticino%3F?t=anon)
People, when I joined last week pointing out it's been a while since they've been to Switzerland I was just joking! :lol:
This post above caught my eye - I've been to Verzasca valley myself on an excursion during my time as geology student at the Swiss federal institute of technology in Zurich.
There's Lago di Vogrono, a reservoir lake and the dam bordering its end, Dam Verzasca was featured in a James Bond Movie ("Goldeneye"). 007 does a bungy-jump from that dam, which is a very popular thing to do among tourists! There's not really anything else thrilling going on in that valley (except for geology of course ;) ) so I'll pick up that spoiler/speculation and, if correct, guess we'll see some bungee jumping as a task or a maybe even a roadblock?
By boat
You can get to Guilin by cargo boat from Guangzhou via Wuzhou, but there are no passenger boats to Guilin anymore, except the boats to and from Yangshuo. You can take a cargo boat if you want to at almost no cost from Wuzhou to Yangshuo.
According to a TV Guide interview, Bertram van Munster, the executive producer of the show, revealed that the countries of the People's Republic of China and Russia will be visited as he states that the racers in this season will be "suffering through blizzards in Central Siberia" and will be involved with "Olympic-themed challenges in Beijing".[3]:browsie:
Furthermore, he also promised that this season will feature "less airports".[3]
According to a TV Guide interview, Bertram van Munster, the executive producer of the show, revealed that the countries of the People's Republic of China and Russia will be visited as he states that the racers in this season will be "suffering through blizzards in Central Siberia" and will be involved with "Olympic-themed challenges in Beijing".[3]
Furthermore, he also promised that this season will feature "less airports".[3]
According to a TV Guide interview, Bertram van Munster, the executive producer of the show, revealed that the countries of the People's Republic of China and Russia will be visited as he states that the racers in this season will be "suffering through blizzards in Central Siberia" and will be involved with "Olympic-themed challenges in Beijing".[3]
Furthermore, he also promised that this season will feature "less airports".[3]
When he says "less airports", does this actually mean their will be less airports visited during the race, or during the episodes, will they just show less of the "airport scene" and focus more on the actual tasks, because there have been some past episodes where up to 15 minutes were based in the airports?
According to a TV Guide interview, Bertram van Munster, the executive producer of the show, revealed that the countries of the People's Republic of China and Russia will be visited as he states that the racers in this season will be "suffering through blizzards in Central Siberia" and will be involved with "Olympic-themed challenges in Beijing".[3]
Furthermore, he also promised that this season will feature "less airports".[3]
When he says "less airports", does this actually mean their will be less airports visited during the race, or during the episodes, will they just show less of the "airport scene" and focus more on the actual tasks, because there have been some past episodes where up to 15 minutes were based in the airports?
I have some information regarding TAR 14, but unfortunately the website won't send me an activation email, so I am passing this info on the only way possible for me at the moment.
One of my mothers friends saw several teams in Thailand and because she is a TAR fan, she recognized them straight away and began talking to them.
One of the teams was the father/son team
One was the young dating team in orange, one of whom was deaf.
The third team was a team of two male dwarfs (possibly the 'two short men')
She spoke with the deaf woman for a long time in the airport, and she whispered 'we're in a race' to her. The deaf woman also said to trip the dwarfs, they aren't nice people.
There were camera men with every team who were being very careful about people taking photos. In spite of this, she said she managed to get several good photos of the teams she saw.
I will send the photos when I can get my hands on them.
A disclaimer of sorts .....I read elsewhere that rff is getting credited with spoiling 2 dwarfs as contestants as well as the girl in orange from Auburn (in orange) being the deaf contestant BUT we have no proof of this, this quote below came from Coutzy! We have no photos from Coutzy's moms friend, no proof what so ever, just hearsay so with that said, its pure speculation until we get some real proof. We don't want other forums/blogs quoting us as saying "rff says, the deaf female contestant is from Auburn, and 2 dwarfs...." etc.
Sorry for the confusion people :waves:
Okay, I want to give y'all a couple of updates.
It is being reported elsewhere that the deaf person on the race is a male, not a female as I was told.
I will again say that I am being told that the deaf person is a woman who relies primarily on signing for communication.
Additionally, this post (as reported to Michael by Coutzy) suggested the possibility of two male "little people"...
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg362349.html#msg362349
I think we can all agree that there are two short men on the race, based on several sightings. However, I am NOT being told that there are two "male little people" on the race, and I truly do think that that would have been mentioned by one of our other sources by now were that the case.
So in the absence of further proof (photos, etc) , I am going to ask that we do NOT assume that the the two short men seen are "little people"--as of this writing I do NOT believe that they are. Just want to be clear here because I keep reading elsewhere that RFF says there are "dwarves" on the race, and RFF is saying no such thing. :groan:
I would of course be delighted to see photo evidence confirming this, it would be wonderful casting!
From Phuket they could have got a ferry from the boat terminal to one of a number of spots on the water, eg. Phi Phi Island, Krabi etc.
There is an airport in Krabi to get back to Bangkok and then onto China.
Teams were stuck on long local bus rides, had long tasks in each place, and were exhausted from that, and I certainly never ever missed any airport drama.I find long bus rides (of the 10+ hour variety, certainly not local) to be the most boring part of Amazing Races that have them. Witness the ride from Bangkok to Chiang Mai in Episode 1 of ARA3. Contrast that with long train rides. Because of the different interior layout of trains vs. buses, train rides allow teams to socialize and "mingle". Airplane flights are quite boring, but the drama at the travel agent or the airline reservations agent can make that the most compelling drama of the three modes of transportation, although frequently it too is boring.
walkingpneumonia,According to this: http://www.s7.ru/en/flight_info/our_cities/index.html (http://www.s7.ru/en/flight_info/our_cities/index.html) S7 flies from Irkutsk and Novosibirsk to Bangkok - has this flight been discontinued? Its only once a week (Mondays) from Irkutsk so its probably not practical for TAR purposes - but its 3 times a week from Novosibirsk.
I appreciate the research you have done on the weather in the correct time frame. Your airline information needs a bit of updating. There are no direct flights form Irkutsk to Bangkok, nor are there any from Novosibirsk. Those cities, which I agree with you are probably the most logical of those on my list above, require complex flight combinations involving 2 or more airlines and flights from Novosibirsk and 3 or more airlines and flights from Irkutsk to reach Bangkok. The other Siberian cities would probably be the same, although I have not checked them. None of those places will have a direct flight to Bangkok. There just isn't the combination of income and demand to support that.
If anything, airport drama has already decreased to an unacceptable low. :(From the recap point of view, airport drama is never fun and decreasing it is welcomed at this end. Airport drama to me has become so boring that you can skip that part of the show and not miss anything.
I've been reading through this forum, and I apologise if this information is already on here, but I should mention it in any case:
The father/son team that has been sighted in Phuket could possibly be Mel White and Mike White, the latter of which wrote the movie "The School Of Rock". They are also both gay. This information comes from tvsquad.com, and I should point out that it is speculation. :duno:
And once again, I apologise if that was already on here, but I did not see anything. :ascared
I've been reading through this forum, and I apologise if this information is already on here, but I should mention it in any case:Mel and Mike White originated here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17789.msg364845.html#msg364845), by us, and has come full circle racer,I hope that helps :lol:
The father/son team that has been sighted in Phuket could possibly be Mel White and Mike White, the latter of which wrote the movie "The School Of Rock". They are also both gay. This information comes from tvsquad.com, and I should point out that it is speculation. :duno:
And once again, I apologise if that was already on here, but I did not see anything. :ascared
Because of the TAR14 stuff, I was curious about Destination Unknown and kept track of the videos. Phil was phoning it in of course, but I looked to see if it was all prepared on the same day. So far, it seems that way: the clothes, the lighting (slightly above and to his left) and the backdrop are the same.
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17788.0;attach=110915;image)
Heres the tv guide quip ..
Phil infront of a Jet? Engine. Maybe Los Alamitos Airfield isn't too far off the mark?
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/rff-0000.jpg)
Koeghan, who was in Los Angeles, is about to start shooting the next "Amazing Race" and he is keeping mum on all of the juicy details.
We assume the race got underway on Friday October 31 thanks to various (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15486.msg358081.html#msg358081) reports.
Not Confirmed:
futurecontestnat sucks posts (http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/3679930/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html):
tar 14 started in los alamitos, california at the military base 100% correct my friends dad works at the military base
Can't find this..Will this (http://flickr.com/photos/stevenpam/458346000/) work?
(...)The problem is with Phil, because he would not want to be traveling with the teams. (...)Although they try to keep Phil ahead of the teams, I remember having read that there's been several times when Phil travels in the same flight with the contestants (albeit in First Class), so perhaps this is the case?
OK. Way too much info, I know. You just can't shut up me or my brother when we're talking about things we're into.
My brother flies 757s and 767s, so I asked him to take a look. According to him, it could be a 757 or possibly a 737 engine. He doesn't usually do the walk-around and there are several different engines certified to be used for 757s. He 's fairly sure that it's not a Rolls Royce engine, but thinks it might be a Pratt & Whitney with a small possibility that it's a GE. He said he could tell better if he could see the cone that Phil is blocking. He's pretty positive the engine is not from the military plane because he thinks those engines are actually bigger than the one in Phil's picture.
He thought the picture could have been an engine at a maintenance facility (the engine would be detached from the plane and easier to get to - and easier for a picture to be made); or it could be a prop from a studio lot; or possibly a privately-owned jet (there's a private 757 at the Burbank airport that parks next to where my brother parks when they land that is available to be leased). Or as one poster mentioned, it could be from a museum.
If I remember correctly, they released the TAR cast like 2 days before the Survivor cast last time.Something I read but, the boats can also be used for any leg of the race, I'm guessing here.
So, why boats?
Actually CBS/BB10 used Catalina island for a private/reward so thats not a bad guess colby.
Hmmmm, how about this....(thinking outside of the box).....since the final destination appears to be Hawaii, how about they start on an island? Catalina island. It's just off the coast. There are boats/ferries that take people to and from the island daily. I think it takes about an hour. Those boats go to Marina Del Rey, Long Beach, and Newport Beach. Though I can't say how often they run. Of course they could rent them out and allow only the first 5 to come to the mainland on the first one at a set period and the other to leave 15-30 min later on the next one. Or they could have boats with captains ready to take them to the mainland and it's a race to a set point on the mainland with a bunch of boats. There they would have cars waiting for them so they could drive themselves to the airport.
puddin, boats are probably going to be used on either a large lake or on the ocean. If we examine the known places already known for AR14, I coclude that the Salzkammergut adjacent to Salzburg and Phuket on the Gulf of Thailand and any island of Hawaii are the most probable places for use of a boat. The start of the race also provides such an opportunity.If I remember correctly, they released the TAR cast like 2 days before the Survivor cast last time.Something I read but, the boats can also be used for any leg of the race, I'm guessing here.
So, why boats?
So basically, it is starting in the LA area once again, for the 3rd straight season. Maybe it's just me, but this, along with reduction of number of legs, and ending in a place that the race has been to 5 times, just shows the race could be reaching the end of the line.
What ever happened to starting in great places like the Nevada desert or the Everglades, or a variety of cities like Chicago or Denver? Now it has been reduced to Playboy Mansion, the LA Coliseum (which was a copycat of the TAR4 starting point), or an airfield (copycat of TAR12 ending point).
Kinda weird that a month AFTER filming, the flag is still there.
If I were Nickasingh I probably would have swiped it :lol:
Tell us more!! :jumpy: Where/what are those places?? 'Phayathai Palace' ?? Who did you talk to? When/where/what/how??Neobies going to make us search? I can't find these places!! :lol:
What does this say?:lol: that we need a magnifying glass?
Crap, that was supposed to be bigger! :lol:What does this say?:lol: that we need a magnifying glass?
Crap, that was supposed to be bigger! :lol:What does this say?:lol: that we need a magnifying glass?
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14BangkokNeobies1bigger-1.png)
Might have a reason why Pit Stop arrivals are so late in Guilin...
Post 223 by Nickasingh, from Sucks (http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/41155/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html?page=12) (thanks hakushu8 for bringing it over!)
Had the incredible luck to connect in Bangkok for a couple of hours, and was able to gather that an "adventure company" was holding an event here at the Phayathai Palace on the 16th of November, and that the point of contact worked for... World Race Productions! (This is our race, guys!)
Other places which may or may not be locations (I can't tell for sure if I completely understood the lady I talked to, but it's worth a look) are...
(http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/5286/thisplacejz5.jpg) this place... and
(http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2562/thatplaceie1.jpg) this place!
It's a huge rush getting from Phuket on the 15th, Bangkok on the 16th, to Guilin on the 17th - but it's possible, and the whole point of the race, isn't it? More info in the timetables thread!
Might have a reason why Pit Stop arrivals are so late in Guilin...
Post 223 by Nickasingh, from Sucks (http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/41155/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html?page=12) (thanks hakushu8 for bringing it over!)
Had the incredible luck to connect in Bangkok for a couple of hours, and was able to gather that an "adventure company" was holding an event here at the Phayathai Palace on the 16th of November, and that the point of contact worked for... World Race Productions! (This is our race, guys!)
Other places which may or may not be locations (I can't tell for sure if I completely understood the lady I talked to, but it's worth a look) are...
(http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/5286/thisplacejz5.jpg) this place... and
(http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2562/thatplaceie1.jpg) this place!
It's a huge rush getting from Phuket on the 15th, Bangkok on the 16th, to Guilin on the 17th - but it's possible, and the whole point of the race, isn't it? More info in the timetables thread!
Neobie, I absolutely agree that Amazing Races are sometimes scheduled with two legs on back-to-back days, but I have never seen it three legs back-to-back. A possible answer is my friend the TBC, which hasn't been seen since AR6. With a TBC e nding the Phuket leg, there is no pit stop to slow teams from getting to Bangkok. Another possiblity beyone that is the split leg in 2 different places. That has been used recently, including in ARA3 with Bangkok plus chiang Mai, ARA2 where they did Hong Kong (what a farce), then New Zealand and ARA1 where the infamous Singapore Caltex task was sandwiched between departure from Auckland and arrival in Bangkok.
There's a difference between a TBC and a 'superleg'. The TBC leg in TAR6 was in Hungary when teams went to an internet cafe to find a video message of Phil giving them their next clue, which turned into another leg. The actual 'superleg' concept where either Phil gives racers their next clue (7, 8(?), 9) or they find their next clue in a cluebox (10) wasn't used until season 7. So there is a possibility it could be either/or.Might have a reason why Pit Stop arrivals are so late in Guilin...
Post 223 by Nickasingh, from Sucks (http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/41155/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html?page=12) (thanks hakushu8 for bringing it over!)
Had the incredible luck to connect in Bangkok for a couple of hours, and was able to gather that an "adventure company" was holding an event here at the Phayathai Palace on the 16th of November, and that the point of contact worked for... World Race Productions! (This is our race, guys!)
Other places which may or may not be locations (I can't tell for sure if I completely understood the lady I talked to, but it's worth a look) are...
(http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/5286/thisplacejz5.jpg) this place... and
(http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2562/thatplaceie1.jpg) this place!
It's a huge rush getting from Phuket on the 15th, Bangkok on the 16th, to Guilin on the 17th - but it's possible, and the whole point of the race, isn't it? More info in the timetables thread!
Neobie, I absolutely agree that Amazing Races are sometimes scheduled with two legs on back-to-back days, but I have never seen it three legs back-to-back. A possible answer is my friend the TBC, which hasn't been seen since AR6. With a TBC e nding the Phuket leg, there is no pit stop to slow teams from getting to Bangkok. Another possiblity beyone that is the split leg in 2 different places. That has been used recently, including in ARA3 with Bangkok plus chiang Mai, ARA2 where they did Hong Kong (what a farce), then New Zealand and ARA1 where the infamous Singapore Caltex task was sandwiched between departure from Auckland and arrival in Bangkok.
I think you meant AR 10. Just to clarify. :tup:
Thank you, Hooky and bag, for your clarifiactions. The situation in question is the 9th leg of AR10 at the Helsinki Olympic Tower. I went back and looked at it. it ends with James/Tyler getting a Keep Racing! instruction. Is that a TBC or a superleg? I think it is probably both. I define TBCs whether the action is continuous and you go to a second leg without a pit stop. I don't have a definition for a superleg.I don't even really know after that what exactly is a TBC or a superleg. :lol: But anyway, I don't think it'll be used because they haven't used it since season 10. If they haven't brought back the yield, I don't think they'll bring back TBCs, anyway, though again it would be nice.
In any case, my memory which told me that there were no TBCs since AR6 was incorrect. I had remembered episode 9 as a double-sized leg, but it isn't. Thank you for the udpate.
I too always saw them as the same thing...I now know. Yields changed to Speedbumps in Series 11-12 transaction didnt they??They changed to U-Turns, not speed bumps.
Yikes, forgot the attachment!
Here it is!
(http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2562/thatplaceie1.jpg) this place!
It's a huge rush getting from Phuket on the 15th, Bangkok on the 16th, to Guilin on the 17th - but it's possible, and the whole point of the race, isn't it? More info in the timetables thread!
The Vimanmek Mansion is often called the "King Rama V House" and is the world's largest golden teakwood mansion.
Amazing Race promo! Amazing Race promo! Right during halftime of the AFC Championship! Right after The Mentalist promo! :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:
Starting's line at the air tarmac where I believe Phil did the photo shoot. Plenty of stuff to go over. puddin? Birthday girl? Did you get this? I might do a quick recording and try to do some vidcaps.
omg....green teaaaaaaamNo rooting! :funny: :funny:
My program could not get that shootaround clearly. I'm glad you could get that, puddin.Oh no you did good Ken :yess: :jumpy:
and I'll rewind ..You're kind. :lol:
Three fit-looking all-female teams, an young asian team, deaf contestant?
SIGN ME UP!
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0025.jpg)
LOL, they really are short, the men I mean, my babies in green tower over them.
AND PUDDIN, I SEE NO MIDGETS! HINT HINT. :lol:
It almost seems like TPTB cast this race to thwart the spoilers (us).No the Munoz brothers? have not been ruled out, we just don't have a photo of them that I know of, until maybe now?
Two couples with blonde haired females and one FF team blonde. All the same shade of blonde.
Two short men teams.
Two tall women teams.
One of the shorter alpha male teams, the ones next to the tall redheads, appear to me, to be hispanic. Did the "Munoz" connection get ruled out?
This promo was truly a surprise. Thank goodness I had the CBS halftime show on otherwise I would have changed the channel and missed it.
This promo was truly a surprise. Thank goodness I had the CBS halftime show on otherwise I would have changed the channel and missed it.I wasn't even paying attention Ken! Just recorded just incase. Thank you again!! :hearts:
The DVR is truly a great invention. I was able to rewind live TV, then record it to my DVD to do the vidcaps. :jam: :jam: :jam: :yess: :yess: :yess:This promo was truly a surprise. Thank goodness I had the CBS halftime show on otherwise I would have changed the channel and missed it.I wasn't even paying attention Ken! Just recorded just incase. Thank you again!! :hearts:
Beautiful, puddin!! :kuss: Is the video in our future?? :hearts:
Zipline? Is this old footage? ???
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14promo1zip-1.png)
Horses! (finally, :lol: !) Could this be old? Didn't Dustin/Kandice ride in Mongolia?
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14promo1horses.png)
Neobie, could this be Guilin? Or maybe Interlaken lakes?
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14promo1maybeGuilin.png)
So Sea Stallions are the entry vehicles. And they ride horses (or maybe that's contestant bio footage).I agree with Slowhatch, the horses could be contestant bio footage/B-Roll. Say for instance the blonds, Jodi and friend are from Texas so maybe thats it. The so called zipline looks like an ascender to me, maybe season 5 or 10, Vietnam or El Nido, Palawan.
^^ Budget reasons I suppose? The tight purse strings and all ..........
This probably doesn't need to said but the starting line is definitely Los Alamitos Base. In the screenshot of Phil saying "Go!" the building right behind him matches with the building on the base in the picture below.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/anon1akacolby/losAl-1.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/th_rff-0008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0008.jpg)
Very possibly KSLI Los Alamitos. Compare the building and palm tree with this (http://www.flickr.com/photos/senoritafish/357526177/sizes/o/).
A different view of the tower area here (http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5963997&nseq=6). Good enough to call it, I think; futurecontestnat gets the credit.
:jam: Hope so too...Cast release in 2 days we hope :wohoo:
:jam: Hope so too...Cast release in 2 days we hope :wohoo:
Sorry kiwi!
Cast Release is going to be on Monday, Jan 26. ;) :angel:
:jam: Hope so too...Cast release in 2 days we hope :wohoo:
Sorry kiwi!
Cast Release is going to be on Monday, Jan 26. ;) :angel:
WOW!
They picked Australia Day!
This is surely a sign that CBS will make an Australian edition!
(Well, I can dream, cant I?)
Isn't it speculated they took trains in Romania too.......it might be there. But sure seems we are going to see some trains this race........hoorayyyyy!!!Dr. Rox, it's a nice thought. The train route in Romania has mountains but only one small passage along a lake. As others(including me) have said the railway line shown could be the Trans-Siberian Express, which is a high probability when teams are in Siberia as it is one of the few reliable means of transportation(although it limits you to cities on that line). However, my best guess is still Switzerland, home of alps and many fabulous train routes. I got to ride many of them using a 8 day Swiss rail pass and know the diversity of possilbilities, with the line from Domodossola to Interlaken the most likely.
:hearts: That has to be the coolest program ever! Two of my favorite things, trains and MAPS! :ty3:What? No FART love? :umn:
Guess this means I better get to work on the new MAP thread, huh? :funny:
:jam: Hope so too...Cast release in 2 days we hope :wohoo:
Sorry kiwi!
Cast Release is going to be on Monday, Jan 26. ;) :angel:
WOW!
They picked Australia Day!
This is surely a sign that CBS will make an Australian edition!
(Well, I can dream, cant I?)
Isn't it speculated they took trains in Romania too.......it might be there. But sure seems we are going to see some trains this race........hoorayyyyy!!!Dr. Rox, it's a nice thought. The train route in Romania has mountains but only one small passage along a lake. As others(including me) have said the railway line shown could be the Trans-Siberian Express, which is a high probability when teams are in Siberia as it is one of the few reliable means of transportation(although it limits you to cities on that line). However, my best guess is still Switzerland, home of alps and many fabulous train routes. I got to ride many of them using a 8 day Swiss rail pass and know the diversity of possilbilities, with the line from Domodossola to Interlaken the most likely.
We were on a train on Nov 2 to Spiez, Switzerland (and then transferring to
another train to Interlaken) when flocks of cameras and people got on in
Domodossola, Italy
that makes sense Gman!I now know more about Italian trains than is healthy...
from NijjyQuoteWe were on a train on Nov 2 to Spiez, Switzerland (and then transferring to
another train to Interlaken) when flocks of cameras and people got on in
Domodossola, Italy
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg360511.html#msg360511
The helmets on the middle-aged man and woman look like Soviet era cosmonaut headgear. However, the only training facility I can find in russia is the cosmonaut training program in Star City, a suburb of Russia. I doubt that AR14 went there.
Sorry, I screwed up the image link at first -- working now?
I can't remember if we had nailed down the Siberia location or not, but the eBay pictures of Bonnie Hunt's mat show the mat's carrying case with a Krasnoyarsk airport tag.Eagle eye! Great catch mwooden! :yess:
Here is the LINK (http://cgi.ebay.com/Amazing-Race-Mat-Signed-by-Phil-Keoghan_W0QQitemZ230319761859QQihZ013QQcategoryZ18839QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting) to the pictures, and here is this too in case it helps. (embedding so this treasure is never lost, lol!)
They use the giant mat for the finale.GMTA :lol:
It could be said that this is not the finale mat, they use that large one at the finishine. I hardly think they had time to have a regular "pitstop" in Hawaii. Perhaps they just sent the regular pitstop mat ahead? ..to LAX.
It could be said that this is not the finale mat, they use that large one at the finishine. I hardly think they had time to have a regular "pitstop" in Hawaii. Perhaps they just sent the regular pitstop mat ahead? ..to LAX.
OK, never mind...
So this would be the Traveling Matt ?
Could this be off the coast of California? Maybe are they helicoptering in off the coast on the way to Los Alamitos? ???
Could this be off the coast of California? Maybe are they helicoptering in off the coast on the way to Los Alamitos? ???
Agreed, the heli is for filming the action/bungee only
I was thinking that death defying stunt was the bungee off the dam, their first morning in Europe.
Nice job, Chateau!!
So on the way from________ to Los Alamitos?
Or maybe they just did a circuit Los Alamitos>>Los Alamitos
Or maybe they just did a circuit Los Alamitos>>Los Alamitos :lol:It's possible, even probable. Entry vehicles have been used in the past for show, rather than actual transport; there's no reason this season shouldn't be any different than TAR7 (if you look closely at the Queen Mary footage, you'll see most of the teams jumping out of the same helo).
I don't think so. I would lean towards Paragliding being a Detour Choice and bungee jumping being either a detour choice or an additional task :yess:I agree, clearly the Bungee is a Roadblock, red clue card, and the gliding looks like a duo of racers.
One more thing about this shot is that if it is Fermin Point then it was taken really late in the day. Something like 2 to 3 pm. Too late for a typical TAR start time.
This shot was taken between 2:14 and 2:53 pm (assumes October 31st)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0017-1.jpg)
??? I'm confused. Where does Edwards come in? The Bell helos in TAR7 flew around the Palos Verdes peninsula, and the promo caps look similar (compare with the Portuguese Bend (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jw-jets/2133060732/) area). But I haven't seen an assembly point. Producers like to drop the racers out of the sky, then show the bio clips.
I am obliged to believe that Margaret is holding an 8. 8th place?? what does it mean!
but that is usually times. I can only see 8 there!
OK, just had to check something.... as I was saying, according to GE, it's 29.2 miles from Los Alamitos, AAF to LAX, with an approximate driving time of 37 mins. Just two major freeways, but I would have thought that the San Diego Freeway was a more direct route. go figure...
Reality check time: All this assumes that the racers take a "commercial flight" out of LAX. (I don't recall any airport sightings) Just wondering....
Some interesting stuff in the "Amazing Race Montage" at the CBS site: pie throwing, carrying cheese downhill, elephant cyclists, segway navigation, ballerinas, etc.
??? No idea where this is. Someone should have it spotted by the time I get back from work. :tup:
??? No idea where this is. Someone should have it spotted by the time I get back from work. :tup:
thats the birdsnest aka olympic stadium in beejing
??? No idea where this is. Someone should have it spotted by the time I get back from work. :tup:
These contestants will travel one of the most grueling courses ever assembled on the Race - spanning 40,000 miles and nine countries in just 22 days. Teams will be faced with a multitude of extremes, including the world's second tallest bungee jump, bone-chilling Siberian temperatures followed by the suffocating heat of India, and an Olympic-sized challenge that leaves Teams gasping for air. For the first time in the history of the Race, Teams will travel to Romania and Siberia.
Thanks Uncle Bll and Boingo for that info! That's some lotta beer :jam:, and German beer is strong, As I can attest to after having survivied a week at Oktober fest with a bunch of Aussie's years ago, :funny:
Bavaria would be fabulous!
Russia ballet, could St Petersburg be possible? :duno:
We need to have 9 countries this time:
Switzerland
Austria
Romania
India
Russia
Siberia
Thailand
China
USA (Hawaii)
So if we don't count Russia/Siberia as 2, we are still missing one.... ???
Olympic-sized challenge that leaves Teams gasping for air shouts swimming challenge to me, hopefully at the Olympic pool site: the "Water Cube".
I vote Austria for cakes!
Göschenen is a municipality in the canton of Uri in Switzerland.
It is located at the northern end of the St. Gotthard Tunnel and the Gotthard Rail Tunnel in the canton of Uri. It is in the German-speaking part of Switzerland.
The racecourse spans 40,000 miles and nine countries in only 22 days, according to the release. Along the way, teams — which include stuntmen brothers, a pair of former NFL cheerleaders, two female flight attendants, a brother-sister duo with Harvard law degrees and the show’s first-ever deaf contestant and his mother will face the world’s second tallest bungee jump, the “bone-chilling cold” of Siberia followed by the “suffocating heat” of India, stops in Romania and Serbia and an “Olympic-sized challenge that leaves teams gasping for air” among other challenges
Did an editor slip up here and really mean Siberia? ??? :duno: Or do we need to have a look-see? ???
Olympic-sized challenge that leaves Teams gasping for air shouts swimming challenge to me, hopefully at the Olympic pool site: the "Water Cube".
Maybe as a possible task, teams have to swim and complete all eight Olympic races that Phelps won gold in.
This was based on a press release and NOT an interview, and all of the press releases should be the same, and no one else's (including ours) says Serbia.
So really, I think it is a mis-hearing/understanding of Siberia.
But since you never know, I am working on follow up.
I have been trying to find out more about the wooden backpacks they are using here
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/promo1/rff-0051.jpg)
I haven't been able to find a really close match yet, but it seems that they are a traditional Swiss German Räf defined here (http://www.heidiland.com/en/navpage.cfm?category=heidimagazinhl&subcat=heidimagazinhl&id=321887) as
"A frame for carrying objects on one’s back, with which one can balance cumbersome and heavy loads over the centre line of the body, thus making them easier to carry."
The picture on this page here (http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:tN33IH9YjFsJ:photo.net/photodb/photo%3Fphoto_id%3D7660219+%22wooden+backpack%22+Switzerland&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=nz) has been removed, but I think the comment is referring to the same piece of apparatus
"The wooden backpack is also used for carrying the large cheeses down into the valley."
That's a very strange combination: umpah band, beer, and tortes (cakes) all in one location. Is there a choice of tasks? Guzzle x number of steins of beer or smash x number of cakes? In any case, what a waste. And look at all the cakes, a heck of a lot more than one per team.
Sadly, no on could be bothered to listen as we sprinted between two terminals (sent from one to the other and then back via a 10 minute shuttle bus each way). Three airlines, twelve “customer service” representatives and multiple people yelling at each other in Mandarin later we found ourselves on an Air China flight back to Tokyo. We’re still not sure why or what they were screaming but it seemed to be the norm for the airport. That said, it was a lovely airport.
During this ordeal we couldn’t help but notice two groups of travelers flashing American passports being flanked by their own teams of cameramen looking a little too giddy to be at the airport in Beijing at 8am. Oddly enough, it seems that we found ourselves in the middle of CBS’ “Amazing Race” with two teams on our flight. Without giving too much away, I can assure you that all of the panic and suspense of the actual show comes from some really great editing. On this particular day we found ourselves watching the double mint twins in matching sweatshirts, bleached teeth and badly dyed red hair preen the entire time for the cameras.
Still we had quite a ways to go and even bumped into the host Phil Keoghan as he waited for his flight to film the finale in Hawaii. It’s important to note that the running, fighting and begging for seats that you see on TV didn’t really happen and oh yeah, Phil flies business class.
A rough estimate, using Delhi as the Indian location, gives us 22225 miles. (All predicted flight connections, through Frankfurt, Munich and Moscow for example, HAVE been included.) Novosibirsk, which has direct flights to Delhi, has been placed after Krasnojarsk, which doesn't.
Adding a flight back to Moscow before heading to India pumps the figure up to 24797 miles. Adding another return trip from Delhi to the bottom of the subcontinent makes it 27255.
Previous CBS estimates have been generous, but we're still far from 40000 miles. What could account for those missing frequent flier points? A finish line that comes AFTER Hawaii in the Continental US?
(http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gcmap?PATH=lax-fra-lszl-lsmi-szg-muc-otp-dme-kja-ovb-del-bkk-hkt-bkk-kwl-pek-hnl&PATH-COLOR=red)
Olympic-sized challenge that leaves Teams gasping for air shouts swimming challenge to me, hopefully at the Olympic pool site: the "Water Cube".
Maybe as a possible task, teams have to swim and complete all eight Olympic races that Phelps won gold in.
That would be an Olympic-sized task -- and one that would leave teams gasping for air -- literally!
Belle Book
The blogger never got back to us Neobie .... maybe Phil was fliming final stand ups in Hawaii? And why would Phil give out that info or any of his crew?QuoteSadly, no on could be bothered to listen as we sprinted between two terminals (sent from one to the other and then back via a 10 minute shuttle bus each way). Three airlines, twelve “customer service” representatives and multiple people yelling at each other in Mandarin later we found ourselves on an Air China flight back to Tokyo. We’re still not sure why or what they were screaming but it seemed to be the norm for the airport. That said, it was a lovely airport.
During this ordeal we couldn’t help but notice two groups of travelers flashing American passports being flanked by their own teams of cameramen looking a little too giddy to be at the airport in Beijing at 8am. Oddly enough, it seems that we found ourselves in the middle of CBS’ “Amazing Race” with two teams on our flight. Without giving too much away, I can assure you that all of the panic and suspense of the actual show comes from some really great editing. On this particular day we found ourselves watching the double mint twins in matching sweatshirts, bleached teeth and badly dyed red hair preen the entire time for the cameras.
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Does this point a finger at the "double mint twins" as being one of the final 3 teams on the way to Hawaii? Or are have they been eliminated and just travelling along with the final three? Two teams and Phil? This almost seems more like two eliminated teams rather than final three teams.
Olympic-sized challenge that leaves Teams gasping for air shouts swimming challenge to me, hopefully at the Olympic pool site: the "Water Cube".
Maybe as a possible task, teams have to swim and complete all eight Olympic races that Phelps won gold in.
That would be an Olympic-sized task -- and one that would leave teams gasping for air -- literally!
Belle Book
Considering how many competitive swimmers would struggle to complete a long coures 400 IM or 200 fly, my guess for a swimming-based task would be some short relay like they did with the kids running in Arfica in TAR 6, or else something like doing 800 meters of freestyle, which is far more doable for a casual swimmer if they take their time and rest on the walls or lane lines as needed. That one could not only really separate out the field because ability levels can vary so much, but you can also make the other racer hold the lap cards and that makes for a fun visual.
The blogger never got back to us Neobie .... maybe Phil was fliming final stand ups in Hawaii? And why would Phil give out that info or any of his crew?QuoteSadly, no on could be bothered to listen as we sprinted between two terminals (sent from one to the other and then back via a 10 minute shuttle bus each way). Three airlines, twelve “customer service” representatives and multiple people yelling at each other in Mandarin later we found ourselves on an Air China flight back to Tokyo. We’re still not sure why or what they were screaming but it seemed to be the norm for the airport. That said, it was a lovely airport.
During this ordeal we couldn’t help but notice two groups of travelers flashing American passports being flanked by their own teams of cameramen looking a little too giddy to be at the airport in Beijing at 8am. Oddly enough, it seems that we found ourselves in the middle of CBS’ “Amazing Race” with two teams on our flight. Without giving too much away, I can assure you that all of the panic and suspense of the actual show comes from some really great editing. On this particular day we found ourselves watching the double mint twins in matching sweatshirts, bleached teeth and badly dyed red hair preen the entire time for the cameras.
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Does this point a finger at the "double mint twins" as being one of the final 3 teams on the way to Hawaii? Or are have they been eliminated and just travelling along with the final three? Two teams and Phil? This almost seems more like two eliminated teams rather than final three teams.
hey guys i've been following you up for spoilers & i have to say i'm impressed, keep it up :tup:. in regards to cara & jamie being on the flight to hawaii, imo i think they are on the final 3, cause pointed out they were being tagged by the cameras the whole time..wouldn't that be a little off if the camera were focused on them if they have been eliminated already...just a thought
Welcome to the forum spont ... :waves:
hey guys i've been following you up for spoilers & i have to say i'm impressed, keep it up :tup:. in regards to cara & jamie being on the flight to hawaii, imo i think they are on the final 3, cause pointed out they were being tagged by the cameras the whole time..wouldn't that be a little off if the camera were focused on them if they have been eliminated already...just a thought
Spont,
Welcome to the forum. Thanks for the that tidbit, but as we have seen, decoy teams have had camera crews follow them especially when TAR gets to the final five or so. The eliminated teams do not go to Sequesterville and basically follow the remaining teams to the finish line. And the decoys go through the route to throw off any people (like the Detectives) from finding out the final three.
Last season, one of the remaining teams played the decoys in Portland. This we know from the Detectives' great work and from our talk with the teams during the lunch before the season finale. :tup:
Believe me, I would love to see it. I would love another all-female make it to give them a chance. Dustin & Kandice were so close in All-Stars.Spont,
Welcome to the forum. Thanks for the that tidbit, but as we have seen, decoy teams have had camera crews follow them especially when TAR gets to the final five or so. The eliminated teams do not go to Sequesterville and basically follow the remaining teams to the finish line. And the decoys go through the route to throw off any people (like the Detectives) from finding out the final three.
Last season, one of the remaining teams played the decoys in Portland. This we know from the Detectives' great work and from our talk with the teams during the lunch before the season finale. :tup:
yeah, maybe. .. i'd just like to think the fact that another female team made it to the final 3. hehe... oh well
Well we are having a bad ice storm here in the Big D, so I have nothing else to do and came up with this. You guys shoot it down all you like, it will only help.
Possible opening scenario of TAR14.
Oct 31, 2008—Leave Los Alamitos JRTB and make way to LAX for flights to Europe. Nov 1, 2008-- Possible
termination points of trans-Atlantic flights at Zurich and Milan.
Teams make their way by train to Locarno, Switzerland and arrive at
overnight sleep over point and leave the next morning at designated time.
This is not a pit stop, but a continuation leg which is common on first leg
of TAR
Nov 2, 2008—Teams make their way to the Verzasca Dam and do the bungy jump roadblock.
After the roadblock, teams are told to go to Interlaken, Switzerland by
train. Depending on arrival at train station in Locarno, there are two routes
to Interlaken, either through the Gotthard Tunnel or Simplon Tunnel.
Teams would have to determine which routing would get them to
Interlaken soonest. On arrival in Interlaken, teams encounter a detour. I
think the detour would be snow related (we had the company of the guy
that specializes in filming snowboarding). So detour is maybe
snowboarding or segway After completing detour, teams make their way
to the Pit Stop around Interlaken. It is presumed that some teams will
arrive at the Pit Stop before dark, meaning that they will leave the next
morning before sunup.
Nov 3, 2008—Leave pit stop and drive to Obermaiselstein. Along the way teams will
have to go through Lucerne. This city has similar waterfront as Interlaken
and could be site for Segway task to get clue to go to Obermaiselstein. The
cheese deal looks like a roadblock to me. All pics are of a single team
member that I can tell. So somewhere along the way, they should do the
cheese task in Switzerland to me. I mean we order Swiss cheese, not
Austrian cheese or German cheese….lol…..but that is just a guess. After
completion of roadblock, proceed to Obermaiselstein for detour,
paragliding or pie throwing. After completion of detour, drive to Schloss
Hellbrum in Salzburg for pit stop.
Nov 4, 2008--(Possible moved Pit Stop mat from night before like in Moscow) Teams
leave Salzburg Pit Stop for tasks in Salzburg then make their way to
Bucherest and Translvania arriving early morning of Nov 5th. This comes
from the fact that the lady jogged by the Schloss Hellbrum the next moring
and nothing was happening. All the cars were still parked there and nothing
where the Pit Stop mat had been the night before.
Nov 5, 2008--Teams make their way by trains to Translvania and either tasks or 36 hour
pit stop.
Your thought that teams will make their wasy to Locarno, arriving mid-afternoon after a flight and train and/or bus combinations, and then go to sleep needs improvement. I think teams will do tasks in Locarno to until there is a "pick a number" board which will be the setup for the following morning at Verzasca Dam, then they will rest. In the morning I see Verzasca Dam and then the end of leg 1 with a TBC so they can keep going and arrive in Interlaken in the early afternoon. In Interlaken teams will do the full range of tasks for leg 2(including cheese) and have a pit stop. For leg 3 the tranportation mode to Salzburg could be car (it's more efficient than I originally thought), train to the plane via Zurich, and even train all the way. I see no big favorite here, but the self-navigation is always fun to watch, so I hope that it is by car. I know that this concept puts a ROADBLOCK into leg 1 but you can't do both Verzasca Dam and cheese in leg 2.
From the CBS message boards (http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/list/25532.page), does this work with our Guilin info? plus short men :yess:Quote12/17/2008 19:23:36
Subject: Re:DONT SHOOT ME -TAR 14 has started filming
TARinChina
CBS Community Member
Joined: 12/17/2008
We were in the Guangzhou China airport November 17th around 11pm and saw a team of two caucasian men wearing backpacks running through the airport with a cameraman and producer in tow. They were in the baggage claim area and were in a hurry to find something and stopped at hte information desk to ask directions. The cameraman was working to capture every move. The men were both short and appeared to be related. One had a fanny pack that was visible with red/yellow/back horizontal stripes on it. We went up to them and said "Are you with the Amazing Race?". They said "No", but we are waiting for cast pictures to see if they were telling the truth or not.
They were both rarther short (5 ft 5 or less my guess) with brownish red hair. They looked like they were related. I think at least one of them wore glasses. They were "thick" build but not fat. They were wearing shorts and tshirts and both had on back packs. They were very much in a hurry and looked stressed. There was a camera man that was filming their every move and a person carrying a microphone that was stuck in front of their faces as well. Hope that helps
It very well could have been Mark and Michael.
Olympic-sized challenge that leaves Teams gasping for air shouts swimming challenge to me, hopefully at the Olympic pool site: the "Water Cube".
Maybe as a possible task, teams have to swim and complete all eight Olympic races that Phelps won gold in.
That would be an Olympic-sized task -- and one that would leave teams gasping for air -- literally!
Belle Book
Considering how many competitive swimmers would struggle to complete a long coures 400 IM or 200 fly, my guess for a swimming-based task would be some short relay like they did with the kids running in Arfica in TAR 6, or else something like doing 800 meters of freestyle, which is far more doable for a casual swimmer if they take their time and rest on the walls or lane lines as needed. That one could not only really separate out the field because ability levels can vary so much, but you can also make the other racer hold the lap cards and that makes for a fun visual.
The asian siblings look like they are first at the cake fight, while Marge and Luke are a lot later (judging by the mess on the floor)You are smart Mrs Shrek! So that is Mel White in the coveralls :jam:
Also, I thought the paraglider pilot would be at the top/back like parachuting (they have their hands on the the handles for controlling the wing), which would make the guy in light brown our racer....
I think the source meant there that they were not going the right (most direct) way to the PitStop....
So did one of them hurt themselves falling on that Segway? :'(
And the cakes have to be JUST before the PitStop, or they would have been cleaned up before the source saw them, right?
^^ thats why I'm wondering if Cara and Jamie switched detours?Quote from Michael's Salzburg blogger:
A few comments are in order at this time:
1. The scene of the beergarden is typically German, not Austrian(even though Salzburg in on the border). It's very easy to cross over to Bertechsgaden, maybe 25 miels from Salzburg. I predict that that task will be in Germany.
2. The ballet is quintessentially Russian. I predict we will see it in one of the Siberian cities.
A few comments are in order at this time:
1. The scene of the beergarden is typically German, not Austrian(even though Salzburg in on the border). It's very easy to cross over to Bertechsgaden, maybe 25 miels from Salzburg. I predict that that task will be in Germany.
2. The ballet is quintessentially Russian. I predict we will see it in one of the Siberian cities.
Dr. Rox, I agree with Bertechsgaden and even predicted it as one possibility.
BG is definitely involved here. The banner in our screen caps belongs to Hoffbrauhaus Berchtesgaden (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/3728782) And their website (http://www.berchtesgadener-bier.de/brauerei.html).Good job Chateau :jumpy:! Honestly i was looking for German beer labels and couldn't connect any with the banner then lost interest, thought I was on the wrong track!
(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/3728782.jpg)
I can't find where they have the big tent on GE.
A map thread sure would be nice *cough*ahem*cough* :neener:
Offers puddin a laryngectomy.... :touche:A map thread sure would be nice *cough*ahem*cough* :neener:
Offers puddin cough lozenge ;D
Offers puddin a laryngectomy.... :touche:A map thread sure would be nice *cough*ahem*cough* :neener:
Offers puddin cough lozenge ;D
I think the source meant there that they were not going the right (most direct) way to the PitStop....
So did one of them hurt themselves falling on that Segway? :'(
And the cakes have to be JUST before the PitStop, or they would have been cleaned up before the source saw them, right?^^ thats why I'm wondering if Cara and Jamie switched detours?Quote from Michael's Salzburg blogger:
By the way, the team of two women appeared to have no slime on them whatsoever which would imply they had a choice in a previous activity. A Detour?
I went back and read this guy's blog and correspondence. The first team, young couple, he encounters, the one asking directions, has to be either Preston/Jennifer or Amanda/Kris. He says they are a young couple. And they have slime. He also comments on two other things......"lots of make-up and the woman swore" Well, being from the SOUTH, this just shouts Jennifer to me. The same as Jodi/Chrissy putting on make up for landing in Bucherest, lol Southern women dont do anything without their face on. I know first hand, I used to be married to one. The other thing was the girl "swore." Again, for some reason, and I admit not having seen them in action yet, I think that was Jennifer. Just a hunch. It just doesn't hit me as a California deal, which would be Amanda.
Then at the Schloss, he saw a girl/girl team with dark hair and no slime. That had to be Cara/Jamie. One was hobbling, so looks a little like a segway accident as has been speculated above. No slime = no detour switch.
The last team he saw was an older couple with slime and from the pics it seems to be Brad/Victoria, since they are tall
I too think the "slime" event is real close to the Pit Stop or they would have cleaned up.
Whoever was corresponding with that guy in Salzburg might shoot him an email and ask him what color the team in the car was wearing, the one he gave directions too. or send him the pic of Preston/Jennifer and Amanda/Kris and let him identify them. Either orange or the light blue would be my guess and he might remember that if prompted. Heck, maybe he is reading this and might just post.
GE says it is 23.3 km (16 miles) 25 min. from Schonau am Konigssee, German (segway event) to Schloss Hellbrunn. I would think the torte (cake throwing) event to be in Berchtesgardener Land too. Maybe we can match up that flag in the tent with one of those villages around Berchtesgaden. MsShrek in post 117 in the Promo Screencaps identified a town in Austria wiht a similiar flag, but the colors are reversed. I think we need to find a village in Berchtesgadener Land with red on the right and blue on the left. Again from MsShrek in post 135 in the Promo Screencaps thread, bavarian tents are blue/white striped and Austrian tents are red/white striped.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0027-2.jpg)
What peach, no Hoffbrauhaus Berchtesgaden history lesson? :word:
:neener:
The CBS press release said they would visit 9 ountries and the second tallest jump, presumably a bungee jump. This is loacted in ZAMBIA which could be the missing country and leg since there is 12 of them.
We think the slime wasn't exactly slime afterall, more like cakes.
In TAR All Stars' the Macau jump wasn't a bungee jump if you remember. It was a descender cable jump. They may have changed it since them. I don't mean to be picky, but that might be why Zambia is listed as 2nd highest bungy jump.
Ms Bell Book......I was just using the word the blogger in Salzburg used. Since the promos have come out, it appears the "slime" is just left over cake parts. I am sorry for the confusion.
At 233 meters, the Macau Tower's tethered "skyjump" and Bungee jump by world renowned AJ Hackett [1] from the tower's outer rim, is the highest in the world.
The World's Highest Bungy Jump at Macau Tower will take its guests on a free fall at a speed of up to 200km/h for the ultimate extreme journey! Plunging from a platform 233m high, challengers will experience a 4-5 second freefall before stretching the 50 meter bungy cord nearly four times its unloaded length and rebounding at approximately 30 meters above the ground. Using a guide cable system, bungy jumpers will be able to safely experience a few rebounds before slowly landing onto a specially designed airbag.
Whoever was corresponding with that guy in Salzburg might shoot him an email and ask him what color the team in the car was wearing, the one he gave directions too. or send him the pic of Preston/Jennifer and Amanda/Kris and let him identify them. Either orange or the light blue would be my guess and he might remember that if prompted--DrRox
The one in the pink dropped her water bottle, which was white. The camera man got the drop and the pick up on film, then they all started off again. They were totally heading the wrong way, convinced that lights on a pond area must be lighting the Pitstop. It took them a good five minutes to figure out where they really needed to be.
puddin, a good historical overview. However, there is one additional thing that Interlaken is noted for (besides being a cute Swiss town with a major railroad connection and lake connections to Thun and Spiez for which the 2 lakes are named). That is the fabled trip to the Jungraujoch, my reason for being there. The train near the top goes through an ice tunnel and there is an ice palace besides an incredible view from above 11,000 feet. I reacted to being the highest (at that point) in my life by nearly passing out, but that is easy enough to avoid if you are expecting altitude sickness.It would be a shame to take the show to Interlaken and not show the ice palace or the Sphinx Observatory on
I hope this doesn't make it to air, as Cara & Jaime are my favorite team, and seem like the best bet for a women's team to finally win. This being shown might mean the editors want to make them the "stupid team," and the "stupid team" doesn't win. (Though then again, T.K. & Rachel had a bumper crop of stupid moments, yet still won TAR12.)QuoteThe one in the pink dropped her water bottle, which was white. The camera man got the drop and the pick up on film, then they all started off again. They were totally heading the wrong way, convinced that lights on a pond area must be lighting the Pitstop. It took them a good five minutes to figure out where they really needed to be.
He also said they were nowhere near last...
Provided things are kept very friendly here.
:welcome2: to RFF, Ashe! I know you from elsewhere, and am glad you de-lurked.Really? Where? And who?
:welcome2: to RFF, Ashe! I know you from elsewhere, and am glad you de-lurked.Really? Where? And who?
The couple he gave directions to in the car: It was actually Amanda and Kris! The women look similar (Jennifer and Amanda), but the guy was definitely Kris. They seemed to be very tanned when I saw them, but it may have been make-up now that I think about it.
Yes, the older man and woman are the ones we saw (she was limping). ...but she does look good for her age. {this was Brad/Victoria}
Yes, the two young redheads are the women who got lost in Hellbrunn park.
Presents!! :hearts:
I heard back from our Salzburg source and he was able to confirm that: italics mineQuoteThe couple he gave directions to in the car: It was actually Amanda and Kris! The women look similar (Jennifer and Amanda), but the guy was definitely Kris. They seemed to be very tanned when I saw them, but it may have been make-up now that I think about it.
Yes, the older man and woman are the ones we saw (she was limping). ...but she does look good for her age. {this was Brad/Victoria}
Yes, the two young redheads are the women who got lost in Hellbrunn park.
The limping makes sense since we know Victoria has had foot surgery...
I guess that what I am saying is that with hip dysplasia and extensive foot surgery, it is possible that she has some degree of a baseline limp. I don't think they were commented on about slime...but it was dark and would have been difficult to tell. But I'll ask! I am not sure that they would have chosen Segways though, unless they already knew how? Seems hip risky to me....
The tent is situated between Interlaken and Wilderswil -- 800m from the Balmer's Herberge & Guest House, and has a spectacular view of the mountains of the Jungfrau Region.
The guy gave directions to Amanda & Kris? I'd have thought it was Preston & Jennifer since they do wear orange.
A young man was driving, what I guess was his wife or girlfriend was behind him.
"How do you get to Schloss Hellbrunn?" the man asked me. He and the woman were frazzled, amazingly desperate! And they were covered in what looked like an amazing amount blood, guts, and pumpkin rot. But it all looked fake. Plus they had tons of make-up on.
I explained that they needed to turn back onto the major road they had just left, Alpenstraße, and head straight down until they passed underneath and underpass. Then they should take the very next right which would lead them down a wooded country lane.
By the time I had finished my first sentence, out of the car from the front and back passenger seats raced the camera man and the boom (sound) man, and they were both on me. I was good. Amazingly enough, I didn't look into the camera! I put a foot on my peddle to push off and ride away when the boom man caught my eye. He shook his head quickly as if to say, "Don't race off!"
The camera man turned off his camera and the boom man, an American, explained to the Austrian and me that we had to sign a release or this footage couldn't be used.
While we signed the paperwork, the woman in the backseat swore. They were in an amazing rush! The boom man turned to her and said, "Look, I told you. If you ask people questions, we have to do this. If you don't like it, don't ask for help."
So do we have a bootlist yet? sorry if this being asked alreayNo and we haven't had the so called bootlist since season 11. How I hate the word "bootlist" !! Sorry, I had to rant :carryon:
Yeah, no bootlist, but if I had to speculate, based on the info and evidence known and given, I'd say this:So do we have a bootlist yet? sorry if this being asked alreayNo and we haven't had the so called bootlist since season 11. How I hate the word "bootlist" !! Sorry, I had to rant :carryon:
EP11: Beijing, China to Hawaii (USA) (Unknown location)Problem is, are they still in the game, or just decoys?
Air Date: MAY 3
Film Date: NOV 21-22
Tasks:
Evidence: Witness at Beijing airport spots Phil flying to Hawaii and “doublemint twins”
Possible Teams: Cara/Jamie
Oh, was that source who spotted Amanda & Kris someone in Germany, Peach? If so, yeah, the picture of Preston & Jennifer was likely from the first leg, while Germany is on the second.Yeah, no bootlist, but if I had to speculate, based on the info and evidence known and given, I'd say this:So do we have a bootlist yet? sorry if this being asked alreayNo and we haven't had the so called bootlist since season 11. How I hate the word "bootlist" !! Sorry, I had to rant :carryon:
11th: Steve & Linda
10th: Preston & Jennifer/Mel & Mike
9th: Mel & Mike/Preston & Jennifer
8th: Christie & Jodi/LaKisha & Jennifer/Brad & Victoria
7th: Christie & Jodi/LaKisha & Jennifer/Brad & Victoria
6th: Christie & Jodi/LaKisha & Jennifer/Brad & Victoria
5th: Margie & Luke
4th: Mark & Michael
3rd: Amanda & Kris/Cara & Jaime/Tammy & Victor
2nd: Amanda & Kris/Cara & Jaime/Tammy & Victor
1st: Amanda & Kris/Cara & Jaime/Tammy & Victor
Could be totally different from tenth and up, but that's what I love about speculation. :lol:
eta: I just went and reread the blog and there is mention of 2 teams on the blogger's plane. I couldn't tell if Phil was actually on the same plane. Just that blogger saw Phil waiting for his flight. At the beginning of the blog there's mention of Three Airlines.Maybe . . . Cara & Jaime are in the F3, and are one of the first two teams on the first plane (for still-in-the-game teams) out of Beijing, and there's a team in third place stuck on the third of the three flights. Likely the team that's pretty much fallen out of it and will be ultimately finishing in third place. Hey, it's happened every season.
Ready for mine with spoilers taken into account?
11: Steve & Linda (no evidence beyond leg one)
10: Amanda & Kris (no evidence beyond leg two)
9: Mel & Mike (guess)
8: LaKisha & Jennifer (guess)
7: Brad & Victoria (guess)
6: Christie & Jodi (guess)
5: Margaret & Luke (guess)
4: Preston & Jennifer (orange was spotted, though not deaf)
3: Mark & Michael :groan:
2: Cara & Jaime :groan:
1: Victor & Tammy (surprise, surprise) :res:
I would rather see Mark & Michael or Cara & Jaime win, so this would just be the fifth disappointing ending in a row if they didn't! :'(
*Crosses fingers already*
Ready for mine with spoilers taken into account?
11: Steve & Linda (no evidence beyond leg one)
10: Amanda & Kris (no evidence beyond leg two)
9: Mel & Mike (guess)
8: LaKisha & Jennifer (guess)
7: Brad & Victoria (guess)
6: Christie & Jodi (guess)
5: Margaret & Luke (guess)
4: Preston & Jennifer (orange was spotted, though not deaf)
3: Mark & Michael :groan:
2: Cara & Jaime :groan:
1: Victor & Tammy (surprise, surprise) :res:
I would rather see Mark & Michael or Cara & Jaime win, so this would just be the fifth disappointing ending in a row if they didn't! :'(
*Crosses fingers already*
Hey, I like Asian Americans -- have a soft spot for them, so I'd be thrilled if Tammy & Victor won! But I'd also like to have Cara & Jamie win if only because we've never had an all-female team win and they seem like the most likely all-female team to be in the Final 3. Besides, I like red hair on women.
Belle Book
Ready for mine with spoilers taken into account?
11: Steve & Linda (no evidence beyond leg one)
10: Amanda & Kris (no evidence beyond leg two)
9: Mel & Mike (guess)
8: LaKisha & Jennifer (guess)
7: Brad & Victoria (guess)
6: Christie & Jodi (guess)
5: Margaret & Luke (guess)
4: Preston & Jennifer (orange was spotted, though not deaf)
3: Mark & Michael :groan:
2: Cara & Jaime :groan:
1: Victor & Tammy (surprise, surprise) :res:
I would rather see Mark & Michael or Cara & Jaime win, so this would just be the fifth disappointing ending in a row if they didn't! :'(
*Crosses fingers already*
Yeah, if either young couple goes out early this season, I see it more likely being Preston & Jennifer rather than Amanda & Kris. The latter just looks like they'll be more cooperative than the former, which always helps.Ready for mine with spoilers taken into account?
11: Steve & Linda (no evidence beyond leg one)
10: Amanda & Kris (no evidence beyond leg two)
9: Mel & Mike (guess)
8: LaKisha & Jennifer (guess)
7: Brad & Victoria (guess)
6: Christie & Jodi (guess)
5: Margaret & Luke (guess)
4: Preston & Jennifer (orange was spotted, though not deaf)
3: Mark & Michael :groan:
2: Cara & Jaime :groan:
1: Victor & Tammy (surprise, surprise) :res:
I would rather see Mark & Michael or Cara & Jaime win, so this would just be the fifth disappointing ending in a row if they didn't! :'(
*Crosses fingers already*
Guess you didn't read Peach's post after she got the email from the blogger in Salzburg. He identified Amanda/Kris as no worse then 3rd on that leg.
Guess you didn't read Peach's post after she got the email from the blogger in Salzburg. He identified Amanda/Kris as no worse then 3rd on that leg. Peach's post is #902 in this thread and your prediction is #925. Well you have time to change your prediction before the race starts.
Presents!! :hearts:
I heard back from our Salzburg source and he was able to confirm that: italics mineQuoteThe couple he gave directions to in the car: It was actually Amanda and Kris! The women look similar (Jennifer and Amanda), but the guy was definitely Kris. They seemed to be very tanned when I saw them, but it may have been make-up now that I think about it.
Yes, the older man and woman are the ones we saw (she was limping). ...but she does look good for her age. {this was Brad/Victoria}
Yes, the two young redheads are the women who got lost in Hellbrunn park.
The limping makes sense since we know Victoria has had foot surgery...
Yeah, if either young couple goes out early this season, I see it more likely being Preston & Jennifer rather than Amanda & Kris. The latter just looks like they'll be more cooperative than the former, which always helps.Ready for mine with spoilers taken into account?
11: Steve & Linda (no evidence beyond leg one)
10: Amanda & Kris (no evidence beyond leg two)
9: Mel & Mike (guess)
8: LaKisha & Jennifer (guess)
7: Brad & Victoria (guess)
6: Christie & Jodi (guess)
5: Margaret & Luke (guess)
4: Preston & Jennifer (orange was spotted, though not deaf)
3: Mark & Michael :groan:
2: Cara & Jaime :groan:
1: Victor & Tammy (surprise, surprise) :res:
I would rather see Mark & Michael or Cara & Jaime win, so this would just be the fifth disappointing ending in a row if they didn't! :'(
*Crosses fingers already*
Guess you didn't read Peach's post after she got the email from the blogger in Salzburg. He identified Amanda/Kris as no worse then 3rd on that leg.
However, I worry about them having so many fans already before the show has even started (check the CBS site).
As for Tammy & Victor being like Nick & Starr, I don't think that's gonna happen since, you know, Tammy & Victor actually look like they'll be interesting. Nick & Starr started out as interesting, to me, but Nick's constant talking about how great he was for doing things he thought were clever but were really just unnecessary, Starr's constant talking about their "adult" relationship and how great it was, and basically them making the season boring with their repetitive winning pretty much killed all my interest them.
Then again, I'm probably the only one here on RFF who despised the Spanglers and wishes I could erase them from my mind permanently.
The source's only words about placement that I recall were that the "girls" (ie Cara and Jaime) were "no where near last". The placement of Amanda/Kris was never discussed, that I can recall, but swearing makes me think they were in quite a hurry...
In his orginal blog, he gave the couple directions to the Schloss, then he went home and got his wife and son. Then they went to the Schloss and when they arrived at the Schloss there were only 3 cars there at that time. So the couple he gave directions to, were one of the first 3 cars there and therefore one of the first 3 teams to check in.
"When we got to Hellbrunn, I noticed not one, but three cars that looked like the one I'd seen earlier. They each had numbers in the back window. The highest number I saw was 11."
When he and his family left the Schloss, he said there were 5 or 6 cars there.
MORE FROM SALZBURG :wohoo:
The driver pulled down the window and asked a young Austrian man for directions. I recognized right away that the driver spoke American English, so being the helpful American I am, I pulled around the front of the car to see if I could help. The Austrian man was fishing for his English vocabulary. Both the front and rear driver's side windows were down. A young man was driving, what I guess was his wife or girlfriend was behind him.
"How do you get to Schloss Hellbrunn?" the man asked me. He and the woman were frazzled, amazingly desperate! And they were covered in what looked like an amazing amount blood, guts, and pumpkin rot. But it all looked fake. Plus they had tons of make-up on. (In an email to Peach, he identified this couple as Amanda/Kris)
I explained that they needed to turn back onto the major road they had just left, Alpenstraße, and head straight down until they passed underneath and underpass. Then they should take the very next right which would lead them down a wooded country lane.(This sounds like 5-10 minutes maximum driving time to me.)
By the time I had finished my first sentence, out of the car from the front and back passenger seats raced the camera man and the boom (sound) man, and they were both on me. I was good. Amazingly enough, I didn't look into the camera! I put a foot on my peddle to push off and ride away when the boom man caught my eye. He shook his head quickly as if to say, "Don't race off!"
The camera man turned off his camera and the boom man, an American, explained to the Austrian and me that we had to sign a release or this footage couldn't be used.
While we signed the paperwork, the woman in the backseat swore. They were in an amazing rush! The boom man turned to her and said, "Look, I told you. If you ask people questions, we have to do this. If you don't like it, don't ask for help."
"What kind of show is this?" I asked.
"A travel show," he replied.
"What channel?" I asked.
"I'm not sure," he said. Amazing, if that were true!
"What's the show called?" I asked.
Then he (sort of) came clean. He said, "I can only tell you that it's a pretty popular one!"
Off into the car they went. I wave and they raced off.
So this was some sort of race! Amazing, I thought, that I was caught in the middle of it.
I swore myself to secrecy--this was big stuff--I couldn't tell people about this! In two minutes I was home and spilling my guts to Jenny. Then one of my students came over 15 minutes later to pick up some soup, and I was telling her before she even sat down.
After my student left, Jenny suggested we head to Hellbrunn (only 5 minutes from our apartment) to see what we could see. There's a huge playground there and we promised Nikolas he could play there a bit (he said 40 minutes, and we said about 10--hey, it was getting dark!).
When we got to Hellbrunn, I noticed not one, but three cars that looked like the one I'd seen earlier. They each had numbers in the back window. The highest number I saw was 11.
That would seem to make sense...whose team numbers do we have so far? Since we haven't seen the entry order yet?
The problem this season is that based on what we have seen so far, I really LIKE them all, and don't want anyone to go home first... :'( :'( :'(
More from SwissMiss08 in reply to my questions.
From: SwissMiss08
I first approached the plaza piazza sant'antonio around 6pm (it gets dark here around 5:30pm now). It is a little plaza in the old city (citta vecchia) which has some parking spots. I tried to park my car and was waved away. And there was a priest standing in front of the church, outside. They did not appear to have been standing there for long. It looked like they were just getting set up.
I drove past, parked, and walked back past around 6:15. I saw a team, a short woman and a tall man with backpacks, frantically talking to the priest (or perhaps frantically talking to each other near the priest). The woman was the one talking. They may have been middle aged, not sure, I was never very close.
The restaurant I was heading to was closed until 7pm, so I turned around and walked past the church/plaza again, this time only the priest and a few others were standing around. I went down to the Piazza Grande and sat in a bar waiting for the restaurant to open.
Around 7, I was again heading up towards the plaza AGAIN when we were passed by a team heading down the street, towards the vicinity of the Piazza Grande or the castle, we thought. This team was two younger people (early to mid 20s). I think the woman I saw was blond, but not sure. She was definitely pretty and tall - guessing 5'9 or more. The "producer" (ie 4th person in group, not carrying a backpack or camera) stopped her to adjust her shirt or necklace as they walked down the street.
After this second encounter we figured out it was the amazing race, so we walked back to the plaza, yet AGAIN after dinner around 8:45. The plaza was empty, no priest. But all the parking spots were cordoned off. This was not the case previously. So we wondered if more teams were coming, and the "priest" had just gone inside to get warm.
We then walked down to the Piazza Grande and the Castle, but neither of those locations was in use.
I drove past, parked, and walked back past around 6:15. I saw a team, a short woman and a tall man with backpacks,
7:00 She was definitely pretty and tall - guessing 5'9 or more.
I drove past, parked, and walked back past around 6:15. I saw a team, a short woman and a tall man with backpacks,
7:00 She was definitely pretty and tall - guessing 5'9 or more.
Well, I don't think anyone seeing Brad/Victoria standing next to each other would say she was short and he is tall. They are close to same height. The only couple with really difference in height is Linda/Steve. Linda is 52, older than Victora.
I think somewhere I read that Jennifer is tall, 5'9" tall. I don't think Amanda is anywhere near that tall, but we will see soon.
I doubt it is Steve and Linda ! I suspect it is Amanda and Kris!
A fwiw, because we already know they went to Germany.. I think its new? I don't recall running across it before?Nice!
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I doubt it is Steve and Linda ! I suspect it is Amanda and Kris!
Are Amanda and Kris middle aged?..... The witness described them as, short woman, tall man and middle aged.
Nah, I think it's either Steve & Linda or Brad & Victoria. Both Steve and Brad are taller than Linda and Victoria, respectively.I doubt it is Steve and Linda ! I suspect it is Amanda and Kris!
Are Amanda and Kris middle aged?..... The witness described them as, short woman, tall man and middle aged.
That's way better than the postcard! They should put that on the website!Agreed! It's a lot more eye-catching than that last one was! I'll definitely take that over TAR13's postcard!
Preston & Jennifer (orange was spotted): that spoiler was unable to be confirmed, unfortunately, so take it with a grain of salt....
I am also being told that car #'s should be considered random, darn it! It was a good thought, though!
TAR to premiere in Romania? IN Romanian...
http://www.cotidianul.ro/amazing_race_a_filmat_in_premiera_in_romania-71475.html
Taken from the spoilers I assume ..
I was just about to suggest the same thing. Movies seem to be connected with most the locations so far:What about the Heidi movies? They were filmed in Switzerland. Isn't there one where Heidi's friend Peter the goatherder carries the cheese from the mountain into the city? Can we dare to hope there might be some yodeling!?!?!?
1A Golden Eye
1B On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2. The Sound of Music
3. Dracula
4. Doctor Zhivago
5. The Lives of the Bengal Lancers
or
Slumdog Millionaire
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. The Last Emperor
11. Hawaii
Just a coincidence? Who knows
"
The Bridge on the River Kwai" for Thailand
Belle Book, I don't hate asians, but I am just afraid they will be too Nick & Starr-ish, and I also want to wipe the Spanglers from my memory just like you, Ashe.Disliked them for the same reasons as I did, I wager, Hooky?
reposting these here so they don't get buriedGee, I hope they didn't inadvertently give away the F3 by so far having them be the only three teams with their own promos.
The Amazing Race 14 Mike & Mel White Promo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mTMu-dy6cs
The Amazing Race 14 Margie & Luke Promo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE2eyi3Iq38
The Amazing Race 14 Tammy & Victor promo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjik9xMjM-w
Ready for my list with spoilers taken into account? (Revised!)
11: Steve & Linda (no evidence beyond leg one)
10: Mel & Mike (guess)
9: Amanda & Kris (I just feel an early elimination from them, for some reason) (guess)
8: LaKisha & Jennifer (guess)
7: Brad & Victoria (guess)
6: Christie & Jodi (guess)
5: Margaret & Luke (guess)
4: Preston & Jennifer (orange was spotted)
3: Mark & Michael
2: Cara & Jaime
1: Victor & Tammy
Belle Book, I don't hate asians, but I am just afraid they will be too Nick & Starr-ish, and I also want to wipe the Spanglers from my memory just like you, Ashe.
There's still an unknown team in the F4. I just wonder why we don't have much Lakisha and Jennifer news.Right. We already know it's potentially Tammy & Victor, Mark & Michael, and Cara & Jaime, but who could the last one be? Maybe Margie & Luke got by the F5, after all? Maybe Amanda & Kris? But it would be nice to find out it was LaKisha & Jennifer.
I was just about to suggest the same thing. Movies seem to be connected with most the locations so far:
1A Golden Eye
1B On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2. The Sound of Music
3. Dracula
4. Doctor Zhivago
5. The Lives of the Bengal Lancers
or
Slumdog Millionaire
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. The Last Emperor
11. Hawaii
Just a coincidence? Who knows
Belle Book, I don't hate asians, but I am just afraid they will be too Nick & Starr-ish, and I also want to wipe the Spanglers from my memory just like you, Ashe.Disliked them for the same reasons as I did, I wager, Hooky?
read the summaries, makz3d, they are the most helpful, thanks to puddin.
Sweet!Belle Book, I don't hate asians, but I am just afraid they will be too Nick & Starr-ish, and I also want to wipe the Spanglers from my memory just like you, Ashe.Disliked them for the same reasons as I did, I wager, Hooky?
Yep. Exact same reasons. :lol:
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The Bridge on the River Kwai" for Thailand
That would be Kanchanaburi rather than Puket and Bangkok though wouldn't it?
I was just about to suggest the same thing. Movies seem to be connected with most the locations so far:imo, these lists could be connected to this season:
1A Golden Eye
1B On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2. The Sound of Music
3. Dracula
4. Doctor Zhivago
5. The Lives of the Bengal Lancers
or
Slumdog Millionaire
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. The Last Emperor
11. Hawaii
Just a coincidence? Who knows
Sweet!
Oh, and btw, if the teams selected in your signature end up being the actual F5 rather than the generally-speculated one, then it'd be a pretty good one, I'd definitely say.
and there are also the two "older" men on the Bangkok to Phuket flight:yeah that too, lol
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg360806.html#msg360806
Yeah, everyone has their speculations, and that's cool. I'd put a few of those teams in my f5 guess also.I guess it's also kind of an assumption, considering at least one young, fit couple makes it far each season.
But for most of it I don't think there are any confirmed f5 lists or even any 'generally speculated' ones, and the M/F teams mentioned (A/K, J/P V/B) haven't been 'seen' since about leg 3. That doesn't mean they didn't make it to the final 5, but I didn't think I'd seen any evidence in the spoilers to support them making it that far, apart from a few people recently listing them in their top 5 guesses
Wait a minute Phuket is leg 7 I need a recap!!!!!!!!!Phuket could be leg 7 or 8, we shall see? It all depends on what country the double/triple? legs are.
Ashe:
Do not take that to the bank just yet. I believe there have to be 4 legs in Europe, so that means if it isn't two in Austria/Germany it will be two in Romania. Once you get to Russia, there is hardly time for more than 2 Russia, 1 India, 2 Thailand, one Guilin and one Beijing before the final leg. Count that out and you get Phuket as the 8th leg. There are different points of view than mine, but those people think AR14 will be a total of 11 legs and I think theyare kidding themselves. We'll see soon enough, probably at the start of the race when Phil summarizes the scope of the race.
Yeah, everyone has their speculations, and that's cool. I'd put a few of those teams in my f5 guess also.
But for most of it I don't think there are any confirmed f5 lists or even any 'generally speculated' ones, and the M/F teams mentioned (A/K, J/P V/B) haven't been 'seen' since about leg 3. That doesn't mean they didn't make it to the final 5, but I didn't think I'd seen any evidence in the spoilers to support them making it that far, apart from a few people recently listing them in their top 5 guesses
Yeah, everyone has their speculations, and that's cool. I'd put a few of those teams in my f5 guess also.
But for most of it I don't think there are any confirmed f5 lists or even any 'generally speculated' ones, and the M/F teams mentioned (A/K, J/P V/B) haven't been 'seen' since about leg 3. That doesn't mean they didn't make it to the final 5, but I didn't think I'd seen any evidence in the spoilers to support them making it that far, apart from a few people recently listing them in their top 5 guesses
Exactly why I still insist that Preston & Jennifer can easily outlast Amanda & Kris, who just look to me like they're going home earlier.
yup its all speculation, nothing is a sure thing
* based on photo and witness evidence
Linda & Steve Cole no evidence beyond leg 1
Jennifer Hopka & Preston McCamy no evidence beyond leg 1
Mel & Michael White photo evidence in Germany/Salzburg (leg 2)
LaKisha & Jennifer Hoffman last witnessed in Romania (leg 3)
Amanda Blackledge & Kris Klicka last witnessed in Romania (leg 3)
Victoria & Brad Hunt last witnessed in Romania (leg 3)
Jodi Wincheski & Christie Volkmer last witnessed in Romania (leg 3)
Mark Michael Munoz last witnessed in Romania (leg 3) & "maybe" China/airport heading to Guilin (leg 10)
Tamara & Victor Jih last witnessed on a Bangkok to Phuket flight (leg 7)
Margie & Luke Adams Phuket, photo evidence (leg 7)
Cara Rosenthal & Jaime Edmondson eyewitness reports spotted in China airport heading to Hawaii (final leg 11)
But the first one we'll see at the finish line will... be phil....and don't forget the 8 already eliminated teams also...unless one of them 'does a dallas' :lol:
So often we've seen one of the seemingly 'strong teams' fail early either due to a silly mistake, or the inability to work well together.Or an inattentive travel agent's silly mistake. (Still bitter about poor Azaria & Hendekea. :()
I have always liked the first few legs of the The amazing Race! Although the second legs have proved to be boring to me. Hopefully this one will prove to be a better one! I hardly even remember some of the second legs of some seasons!Here are the second legs I remember:
Do not take that to the bank just yet. I believe there have to be 4 legs in Europe, so that means if it isn't two in Austria/Germany it will be two in Romania. Once you get to Russia, there is hardly time for more than 2 Russia, 1 India, 2 Thailand, one Guilin and one Beijing before the final leg. Count that out and you get Phuket as the 8th leg. There are different points of view than mine, but those people think AR14 will be a total of 11 legs and I think theyare kidding themselves. We'll see soon enough, probably at the start of the race when Phil summarizes the scope of the race.
So hold on, with the cars, do the teams pick the car with their team number? Because if they do, that would pit Tammy & Victor as one of the first 3 teams at the Schloss.
I am also being told that car #'s should be considered random, darn it! It was a good thought, though!
I have analyzed the numbers long enough to notice that the car numbers are not in any way significant (the first team to get a car doesn't even have to take #1), so that idea can be considered dead.
Dr. Rox,
I have taken a look at my Timeline for clues on whether an extended pitstop is possible in Salzburg. The earliest drive yourself option would arrive maybe 1pm (due to rental car agency not open until 7am). Getting the first possible flight would get them there at 915am. First trains would get them to Salburg around 3pm. In all cases there is room for either a 24 hour pitstop after Salzburg area tasks and with the flight option there is even room for a 36 hour pitstop.
A fwiw, because we already know they went to Germany.. I think its new? I don't recall running across it before?:groan: The link to TAR is gone now.
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Well, that hotel Alpenhof looks car friendly as does the town of Stechelberg. This gives apskip's and my idea of a driving leg in Ep2 some posibilty. They can start out on leg 2, without being bunched up by train or plane schedules. I was sort of worried about all those mountain villages like Murren that are not car friendly and only accessible by train or cable car, which I would think would bunch them up. Now it looks like they can get in a car and start driving toward Bavaria as soon as released from the Pit Stop. It will be interesting to see if that actually happens.
That's good speculation, but it doesn't always happen that way. Although for TAR Asia, the teams that get a Sony video camera ad have been in the final three. I think CBS would be a bit more careful.
I have a new bit of speculation, though I'm not totally going to take it to the bank just yet. Could there be any chance that the four teams with promos -- Tammy & Victor, Mel & Mike, Margie & Luke, and Cara & Jaime -- were given promos because they're going to be the actual F4, and CBS was trying to hint at that?
If so, I'd find that to be an awesome F4! A women's team, a brother/sister team, and not one, but two parent/child teams being the last four teams standing? I think TAR14 will be made of win if something like that happens!
So hold on, with the cars, do the teams pick the car with their team number? Because if they do, that would pit Tammy & Victor as one of the first 3 teams at the Schloss.
I am also being told that car #'s should be considered random, darn it! It was a good thought, though!
I have analyzed the numbers long enough to notice that the car numbers are not in any way significant (the first team to get a car doesn't even have to take #1), so that idea can be considered dead.
I am going to revise this info:
I am being told that the backpack numbers DO correlate to car numbers. (http://www.smileys4msn.com/displaysmiley.php?show=1005)
However, it is also possible that the backpack #'s may be random this year and not correlate to the team entry's, so ???
So hold on, with the cars, do the teams pick the car with their team number? Because if they do, that would pit Tammy & Victor as one of the first 3 teams at the Schloss.
I am also being told that car #'s should be considered random, darn it! It was a good thought, though!
I have analyzed the numbers long enough to notice that the car numbers are not in any way significant (the first team to get a car doesn't even have to take #1), so that idea can be considered dead.
I am going to revise this info:
I am being told that the backpack numbers DO correlate to car numbers. (http://www.smileys4msn.com/displaysmiley.php?show=1005)
However, it is also possible that the backpack #'s may be random this year and not correlate to the team entry's, so ???
Just to clarify, I KNOW for a fact that in Tar 12 Leg 5 they did NOT have to take the cars with their numbers. Nathan & Jennifer did not take #1, etc. But Aja & Ty did take #4 in Leg 4 (which was their tag #), so I guess the rules could have been changed beginning in TAR 13. But it certainly wasn't that way in TAR's 5-12 (excluding FE which I didn't see).
I'm sure the backpack numbers don't match the website, because the website bios are in ABC order, and the numbers don't appear to put the teams in ABC order ever (although I have yet to find out with TAR 1-4). blahblah
Trust me, you could ask me and I could give you all or most of the numbers of teams in TAR's 6-13 (again excluding FE). TAR ADDICT! :groan: :lol:
I have a new bit of speculation, though I'm not totally going to take it to the bank just yet. Could there be any chance that the four teams with promos -- Tammy & Victor, Mel & Mike, Margie & Luke, and Cara & Jaime -- were given promos because they're going to be the actual F4, and CBS was trying to hint at that?
If so, I'd find that to be an awesome F4! A women's team, a brother/sister team, and not one, but two parent/child teams being the last four teams standing? I think TAR14 will be made of win if something like that happens!
Did either you or Mike get recognized during filming?
I don’t see myself as a celebrity, but people recognize Mike all over. Back home, he has paparazzi shooting and asking him questions. When we were going through India, this woman leaned over to us on a bus and said to him, “I like your movie.” I’m a dad, so of course I got a puff of pride. I mean, I don’t see him as an actor or screenwriter, I just see him as my kid. When I see him on the screen, I don’t see the character, I see Mike. Which was really uncomfortable when I saw Chuck & Buck. [Laughs] I was so taken aback.
Being focused is a gift. There’s a moment where there was real risk, and the whole race was at stake. I sat down and did my meditation.
Gosh I hope the India thing is true!
What’s scarier -- running through a third world country with no money or going on an Equality Ride to Liberty University?
To be surrounded by fundamentalists is much scarier than being surrounded by pygmy warriors or whomever. The fundamentalists are so blind, so dogmatic. I have to have police guards at universities. I had 40 Baptist clergy marching into a classroom demanding they must be heard. They just lose their cool completely.
Note, they do not have Maui listed as a leg so will we have 11 or 12 episodes?
Okay, i think this is abit disappointing. Why do we have 2 legs in Russia again? And 2 legs in Thailand.. and THREE in China? And we're only going to 3 continents? I can't believe they are entirely leaving out Africa, South America and Australia! And i can't believe they are spending more than 50% of the race in 3rd world countries just to cut down the cost..If you have been keeping up with the spoilers you would not be so disappointed or all that surprised Joab. We knew India but, not where and all the other locations were pretty much spoiled before the map release.
I hope the cast really make up the loss then.. :( :duno:
Note, they do not have Maui listed as a leg so will we have 11 or 12 episodes?
Start: Los Alamitos, California, United States
1. Stechelberg, Switzerland
2. Salzburg, Austria
3. Bran, Romania
4. Krasnoyarsk, Russia
5. Novosibirsk, Russia
6. Jaipur, India
7. Phuket, Thailand
8. Bangkok, Thailand
9. Gurlin, China
10. Beijing, China
11. Beijing, China
Finish: Maui, Hawaii, United States
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/tar_14_route.jpg)
This particular race is Asia-heavy, but I like that. Some seasons are Euro-centric. It all balances out.Although many say that season 8 was too America-centric ;)
And in cosmetic fixes, Race's route will be updated with Google maps, the show will sport new graphics and a new opening sequence, and the musical score will get a tuneup. "We had a little too many cymbals crashing," van Munster says.
"Siberia was cold, and I don't care for the cold at all," said Lakisha. "In Romania, the people live such a different life than what I'm used to seeing. It really gives you a greater appreciation for what you have."The last confirmed sighting of this team had been Romania, but I guess this suggests they make it at least 1 or 2 legs further on, in to Siberia
Okay, i think this is abit disappointing. Why do we have 2 legs in Russia again? And 2 legs in Thailand.. and THREE in China? And we're only going to 3 continents? I can't believe they are entirely leaving out Africa, South America and Australia! And i can't believe they are spending more than 50% of the race in 3rd world countries just to cut down the cost..If you have been keeping up with the spoilers you would not be so disappointed or all that surprised Joab. We knew India but, not where and all the other locations were pretty much spoiled before the map release.
I hope the cast really make up the loss then.. :( :duno:
Good catch Mrs Shrek :tup:Quote"Siberia was cold, and I don't care for the cold at all," said Lakisha. "In Romania, the people live such a different life than what I'm used to seeing. It really gives you a greater appreciation for what you have."The last confirmed sighting of this team had been Romania, but I guess this suggests they make it at least 1 or 2 legs further on, in to Siberia
Great! That means they'll either get bumped off on at least leg four or five, unless they make it farther.Good catch Mrs Shrek :tup:Quote"Siberia was cold, and I don't care for the cold at all," said Lakisha. "In Romania, the people live such a different life than what I'm used to seeing. It really gives you a greater appreciation for what you have."The last confirmed sighting of this team had been Romania, but I guess this suggests they make it at least 1 or 2 legs further on, in to Siberia
Great! That means they'll either get bumped off on at least leg four or five, unless they make it farther.Good catch Mrs Shrek :tup:Quote"Siberia was cold, and I don't care for the cold at all," said Lakisha. "In Romania, the people live such a different life than what I'm used to seeing. It really gives you a greater appreciation for what you have."The last confirmed sighting of this team had been Romania, but I guess this suggests they make it at least 1 or 2 legs further on, in to Siberia
This now makes me think things'll go like this:
11th: Steve & Linda (them being so hopelessly lost in that preview makes me think they won't live past the first leg)
10th: Preston & Jennifer
9th: Amanda & Kris
8th: LaKisha & Jennifer
7th: Brad & Victoria
6th: Christie & Jodi/Mel & Mike/Mark & Michael/Margie & Luke
5th: Christie & Jodi/Mel & Mike/Mark & Michael/Margie & Luke
4th: Christie & Jodi/Mel & Mike/Mark & Michael/Margie & Luke
3rd: Christie & Jodi/Mel & Mike/Mark & Michael/Margie & Luke
2nd: Tammy & Victor/Cara & Jaime
1st: Tammy & Victor/Cara & Jaime
I don't know why, but it's just a gut feeling I have that made me put down my speculated top two. They just feel like it to me. I could be wrong, but I'm gonna throw it out there, anyway.
The answer to Sukhothai (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9kin_Express_4,_la_route_des_Dragons_(France)#Le_parcours)...I forgot about that picture, thanks Neobie!
(Thailand has had a very busy year - the races' cumulative curse effect?)
Probably means 11 legs. It said the Pit Stop was there twice because the Finish Line is not a Pit Stop, maybe?
Or maybe there really are two legs in Beijing, like Moscow in TAR13. Which means 12 legs!
It's really sort of ridiculous to have 3 legs in one country though. Hoping for expansion next season but it's looking unlikely. I hope the new redesigned intro and other things will be awesome! We'll see.
And i can't believe they are spending more than 50% of the race in 3rd world countries just to cut down the cost..
And i can't believe they are spending more than 50% of the race in 3rd world countries just to cut down the cost..
That's the price for racing in Switzerland! ;D
Great! That means they'll either get bumped off on at least leg four or five, unless they make it farther.Good catch Mrs Shrek :tup:Quote"Siberia was cold, and I don't care for the cold at all," said Lakisha. "In Romania, the people live such a different life than what I'm used to seeing. It really gives you a greater appreciation for what you have."The last confirmed sighting of this team had been Romania, but I guess this suggests they make it at least 1 or 2 legs further on, in to Siberia
This now makes me think things'll go like this:
11th: Steve & Linda (them being so hopelessly lost in that preview makes me think they won't live past the first leg)
10th: Preston & Jennifer
9th: Amanda & Kris
8th: LaKisha & Jennifer
7th: Brad & Victoria
6th: Christie & Jodi/Mel & Mike/Mark & Michael/Margie & Luke
5th: Christie & Jodi/Mel & Mike/Mark & Michael/Margie & Luke
4th: Christie & Jodi/Mel & Mike/Mark & Michael/Margie & Luke
3rd: Christie & Jodi/Mel & Mike/Mark & Michael/Margie & Luke
2nd: Tammy & Victor/Cara & Jaime
1st: Tammy & Victor/Cara & Jaime
I don't know why, but it's just a gut feeling I have that made me put down my speculated top two. They just feel like it to me. I could be wrong, but I'm gonna throw it out there, anyway.
I pretty much agree with you, and I'm going to go a little farther based on what Spontaneouss suggested:
11. Linda & Steve
10. Jennifer & Preston
9. Amanda & Kris
8. LaKisha & Jennifer
7. Brad & Victoria
6. Christie & Jodi
5. Mel & Mike/Margie & Luke
4. Margie & Luke/Mel & Mike
3. Mark & Michael
2. Tammy & Victor/Cara & Jamie
1. Cara & Jamie/Tammy & Victor
The names I put first are those I suspect will be in the position that I put them in. So if I think that Mel & Mike will be in fifth but I'm not certain, I'm putting their names first followed by Margie & Luke's.
Belle Book
Thailand! That is a surprise! Didn't we have something that said Portugal? ???I don't recall anything about Portugal? and the sightings we have around Thailand, besides Coutzys fake spoiler, look legit as in race mode not decoys or whatever.
Any racer sightings out of Koh Samui will need to be looked at w/ suspiscion, I guess~!
OK well, I was sent this on facebook,I know we never saw the proof for this spoiler - but maybe what was seen was teams either on their way to sequesterville or on their way from sequesterville to Hawaii? They at least described the teams correctly back before we had much information.
take it for what it's worth ....QuoteI have some information regarding TAR 14, but unfortunately the website won't send me an activation email, so I am passing this info on the only way possible for me at the moment.
One of my mothers friends saw several teams in Thailand and because she is a TAR fan, she recognized them straight away and began talking to them.
One of the teams was the father/son team
One was the young dating team in orange, one of whom was deaf.
The third team was a team of two male dwarfs (possibly the 'two short men')
She spoke with the deaf woman for a long time in the airport, and she whispered 'we're in a race' to her. The deaf woman also said to trip the dwarfs, they aren't nice people.
There were camera men with every team who were being very careful about people taking photos. In spite of this, she said she managed to get several good photos of the teams she saw.
I will send the photos when I can get my hands on them.
If this were true that would mean the F4 is: two short men, father/son, orange auburn couple, and a f/f team ....
I'm not buying it, but i wanted to post it anyways just in case lol.
Thailand! That is a surprise! Didn't we have something that said Portugal? ???I don't recall anything about Portugal? and the sightings we have around Thailand, besides Coutzys fake spoiler, look legit as in race mode not decoys or whatever.
Any racer sightings out of Koh Samui will need to be looked at w/ suspiscion, I guess~!
fwiw I just sat through the Insider clips and Cara/Jamie Victor/Tammy Marge/Luke have an alliance and it looks like Michael & Mark are in that alliance as well.
Amanda & Kris were aligned with Preston & Jen who were also aligned with Mike & Mel
No one wants to be aligned with Linda and Steve because they are too slow
Amanda & Kris were aligned with Preston & Jennifer, who were also aligned with Mel & Mike.That makes sense, as the three of their teams were all on the first airport shuttle together when they got to LAX.
they lived in Sheraton and the pit top was Sun-Moon-Tower- spoiler for Guilin, China leg.
and a mountain named Di-Tsai was also visited.
Leg 5 quote's - "They Did The Double On Us!"
4. To replace an actor in the actor's absence or in a certain scene.
知道23日下午接到旅行社的电话,并按要求在当天晚上7点半去到大宇饭店,才知道原来是要做T.A.R.节目制片组的PRODUCER ASSISTANT(P.A.)。那天晚上的JOB就是接机。
23日晚上11点40分左右终于到了两江机场。晚上的郊区真的好冷,而我只有身上的两件薄薄的衣服,明明冷得发抖还不得不死命装做还撑得住。终于在24号凌晨0点30分左右接到了我负责的PRODUCER,J.R..那天晚上回到住的地方已经是凌晨2点多了。
J.R.和SETH是ART DEPARTMENT的,下午回到饭店后,我和NORA就一直在帮忙做道具。确切点来说,NORA一整天都在做道具。后来J.R.说,道具要在晚上9点半前全部运到叠彩山顶并且摆好装饰好,然后我们四个,再加两个桂林方面负责道具的师傅,不得不放弃好好吃饭的想法,赶做道具。8点多的时候,道具还没全部完成,但是也要把完成的那部分运去山顶了。
最后做完道具回到住的地方,已经是凌晨4点了。
6点再次出现在饭店。我真是超人,连续工作20个小时,WITH一个小时的睡眠。
去到OFFICE的时候发现有人比我更超人,SETH一个晚上都没睡。
25日THE SHOW正式开拍。而我又在风中度过AWFUL的大半天……
If she made the post on the 21st, that fits :jumpy: because we believe teams were in Guilin 18-20. So she is talking about something that already has happened? So that all fits...
Not sure why she has the other dates wrong? Are we losing something in translation? ???
fwiw I just sat through the Insider clips and Cara/Jamie Victor/Tammy Marge/Luke have an alliance and it looks like Michael & Mark are in that alliance as well.
Amanda & Kris were aligned with Preston & Jen who were also aligned with Mike & Mel
No one wants to be aligned with Linda and Steve because they are too slow
On the 24th morning, she reached the hotel at 7.30am in the morning and started working. Because filming will begin on the next day, they have to finish all the preparation by today and ensure that nothing goes wrong. She talks about how the foreigners (production team) does not have the habit of taking an afternoon nap and some of them didn't even take their lunch. She worked for the entire day and only ate a few biscuits and felt awful.We were able to make contact but she was unable to tell us more:
kept ourselves busy with making the props. J.R told us that the props must be done by 9.30pm and transported up Die Cai Shan to be prepared and put into place. Then the four of us (Seth, J.R and Nora), together with another 2 masters at making props from Guilin, had to give up the idea of eating a proper meal to rush out the props. At around 8pm, the props were still not done but they had to move them up to the mountain already.
Hello,
Looks like you guys are big fans of the show!
I'm not very good with dates; usually just remember which day of the week it is. Thinking back, I'm not very sure with the dates, sorry!
... we couldn't know exactly what the activities are.
Good detective work Joab :jam:
Good detective work Joab :jam:
:jam: Nothing compared to what you guys have done. The only thing i confirmed was they did when to the mountain for a task.
呃……好像是15吧,不太记得了,好久咯,而且我一般对日期不是很有概念,只记得星期几,呵呵~
I have absolutely no luck with Beijing. I don't think they went to the Olympic Stadium. It would have been a crazy sighting and people would have at least posted it.
Hmmm, there would be obvious sightings if they did went.. there's too many people in China. I don't think there have been any sightings in Beijing yet right?
Hmmm, there would be obvious sightings if they did went.. there's too many people in China. I don't think there have been any sightings in Beijing yet right?Well in the insider clips teams are sitting around LAX waiting for their flights. People are just walking around them like its not a big deal. Some even borrowed laptops to find the best directions the church in Ticino. Not one reported sighting this time around in LAX.....Whats up with that?
Perhaps the producers swore people to those non-disclosure agreements? :duno: :duno: :meow: :meow: :meow:All those people? Did you watch the insider clip? There are people everywhere. I guess in LA when people are being filmed in an airport its no big deal? to them :meow:
From wikipedia -QuoteLeg 5 quote's - "They Did The Double On Us!"
Totally sounds like a Mark and Michael quote to me.
From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/doubleQuote4. To replace an actor in the actor's absence or in a certain scene.
Sounds like a stuntman term, since a stuntman.. is sometimes a double.. to help the actors/actresses perform dangerous stunts that they cannot do.. and Mark and Michael are highly to be the team using the term?
And they.. i'm speculating that they are refering to a team who look really alike each other?? Cara and Jaime?? :duno:
Yes, the preliminary title of Episode 2 called, "Linda and Steve Get Eliminated" was not official. :lol::lol: your killing me here
Yes, the preliminary title of Episode 2 called, "Linda and Steve Get Eliminated" was not official. :lol:
You know you love me. :neener: :neener: :waves: :waves: :waves: :<3 :<3 :luvu: :luvu: :luvu: :luvu:Yes, the preliminary title of Episode 2 called, "Linda and Steve Get Eliminated" was not official. :lol::lol: your killing me here
The others must be on an earlier flight to Romania, especially considering what I saw tonight.It makes sense now :tup:
Belle Book
The others must be on an earlier flight to Romania, especially considering what I saw tonight.It makes sense now :tup:
Belle Book
shush you :lol:The others must be on an earlier flight to Romania, especially considering what I saw tonight.It makes sense now :tup:
Belle Book
:lol:
shush you :lol:The others must be on an earlier flight to Romania, especially considering what I saw tonight.It makes sense now :tup:
Belle Book
:lol:
It could, but I think at this point it's highly unlikely. :\ I don't think they'd suddenly reintroduce the yield after being gone for two seasons.
In Romania, Romaniafan has given us Tammy/Victor Jodi/Christie Kisha/Jen Michael/Mark & Cara/Jamie.
Hi guys, thanks for all the warm welcome! :waves:
Just a tad information, while I was re-watching episode 2, A Tammy/Victor confessional stood up my sight, not because of what they have said, rather probably a spoiler, It came in the first half of the race and the location of their confessionals looked like in the final leg/city in Maui. (Its a place outside... Not snowing - Not probably in Romania, as they are wearing the same clothes on the first leg... It doesn't look like Thailand, India or China either... ) When I figure where that clip is, I'll post more information. Thanks!
NEW EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZOpff2V_YE
You can see the image at 3:52 - 3:53 minutes
Hi guys, thanks for all the warm welcome! :waves:
Just a tad information, while I was re-watching episode 2, A Tammy/Victor confessional stood up my sight, not because of what they have said, rather probably a spoiler, It came in the first half of the race and the location of their confessionals looked like in the final leg/city in Maui. (Its a place outside... Not snowing - Not probably in Romania, as they are wearing the same clothes on the first leg... It doesn't look like Thailand, India or China either... ) When I figure where that clip is, I'll post more information. Thanks!
NEW EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZOpff2V_YE
You can see the image at 3:52 - 3:53 minutes
Quite frankly, the brownish swaying things look either like tall grass infloresence or bamboo. So you gotta take all those three places into consideration again. Also, talking about "unprogramming decades of blah blah" doesn't equate for a finale confessional, because you can't unprogram at the end (unless you had a very INV edit in the beginning and your story arc just got going in the finale).
Also, since you mentioned that they had their leg 1 clothes, it "may" have been a leg 1 confessional.
It looks to me that it could really be in, lets say .... Los Angeles, California
Hi guys, thanks for the comments.
It looks to me that it could really be in India (but where? pitstop maybe? Is there somewhere in Jaipur that would look like that?), or completely a pre-race interview -
We have no further spoilers for A/K we keep telliing y'all, so no they cannot be speculated to go far based on spoilers.
We have no further spoilers for A/K we keep telliing y'all, so no they cannot be speculated to go far based on spoilers.
oh, for some reason I was under the impression that they made it far, my bad!
However, Mel & Mike were shown in that intro, so they might make it far, as well.We have no further spoilers for A/K we keep telliing y'all, so no they cannot be speculated to go far based on spoilers.
oh, for some reason I was under the impression that they made it far, my bad!
Somehow I think Amanda and Kris won't make it that far. Although the other three may make it that far... Who knows, they could have been like Joe and ABill and were a day behind forever. I don't think that the producers would allow that anymore though.
;D :lol:
Just based on the promo that you posted, puddin, the order of finish looks totally wrong for Sunday's leg.Especially since Mike is doing the Roadblock and the FAKE wiki has Mel 2 Mike 1.
^^ You've lost weight Michael! :jam:
^^ You've lost weight Michael! :jam:
please stay on topic puddin!
Not to mention Mel & Mike seem way too happy at what seems to be the Pit Stop to be getting eliminated.Just based on the promo that you posted, puddin, the order of finish looks totally wrong for Sunday's leg.Especially since Mike is doing the Roadblock and the FAKE wiki has Mel 2 Mike 1.
Anyway, based on the edit.. that is starting to come out.. it's really quite obvious that producers are trying to focus on the storyline of Tammy/Victor, Margie/Luke and Mel/Mike. And Jaime/Cara's alliance with Margie/Luke is starting to come out as well..I can see the M&M teams in the final 5 along with Cara/Jamie Luke/Marge Tammy/Victor. I don't know where to place Kris and Amanda though .....in my mind anyway.
I don't really see much of Kisha/Jen, Christie/Jodi and Mark/Michael... or even Amanda/Kris.. unless they are getting a TK/Rachel edit? :duno:
Anyway, based on the edit.. that is starting to come out.. it's really quite obvious that producers are trying to focus on the storyline of Tammy/Victor, Margie/Luke and Mel/Mike. And Jaime/Cara's alliance with Margie/Luke is starting to come out as well..I can see the M&M teams in the final 5 along with Cara/Jamie Luke/Marge Tammy/Victor. I don't know where to place Kris and Amanda though .....in my mind anyway.
I don't really see much of Kisha/Jen, Christie/Jodi and Mark/Michael... or even Amanda/Kris.. unless they are getting a TK/Rachel edit? :duno:
I still can't see how Cara/Jaime manage to (possibly) get to the final three...They have been in the bottom half of the teams for the first three legs haven't they? Hopefully they kick it up soon.Chip & Kim were in the bottom the first three legs before kicking it up, too.
I spoke to one of the contestants, an asian looking man with his girlfriend.
Nice guy.
Also two older men.
our flight details were:
15/nov
Bangkok- phuket
thai airways
flight TG203- 0730
Yes they did do multiple takes, one funny incident was when we arrived all the teams ran, just to be held up by crowds and customs..that made me laugh.
Thanks for clearing that up peach, I know you worked hard to get that info :jam:
I spoke to one of the contestants, an asian looking man with his girlfriend.
Nice guy.
Also two older men.
our flight details were:
15/nov
Bangkok- phuket
thai airways
flight TG203- 0730
Yes they did do multiple takes, one funny incident was when we arrived all the teams ran, just to be held up by crowds and customs..that made me laugh.
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.200.html
The two older men have now been confirmed as MEL AND MIKE.
I spoke to one of the contestants, an asian looking man with his girlfriend.
Nice guy.
Also two older men.
our flight details were:
15/nov
Bangkok- phuket
thai airways
flight TG203- 0730
Yes they did do multiple takes, one funny incident was when we arrived all the teams ran, just to be held up by crowds and customs..that made me laugh.
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.200.html
The two older men have now been confirmed as MEL AND MIKE.
The two older men on the Phuket plane have been confirmed as Mel & Mike, but has the "asian looking man with his girlfriend" been confirmed as Victor & Tammy?:lol: I'm sure Kris would find this amusing IF he were to read this.
I'm starting to think this "asian looking man with his girlfriend" is actually Kris & Amanda. First, Victor looks clearly Asian... you'd describe him as an Asian man, not an Asian-looking man. The person who saw them on the plane also said he/she spoke to this Asian-looking man, but still said his partner was his girlfriend rather than his sister and didn't call her an asian-looking girlfriend.
Kris has dark hair and a baby face and looks like a "nice guy". He could easily be mistaken for being "Asian-looking" by someone who's had a little too much free booze on the plane!
The two older men on the Phuket plane have been confirmed as Mel & Mike, but has the "asian looking man with his girlfriend" been confirmed as Victor & Tammy?:lol: I'm sure Kris would find this amusing IF he were to read this.
I'm starting to think this "asian looking man with his girlfriend" is actually Kris & Amanda. First, Victor looks clearly Asian... you'd describe him as an Asian man, not an Asian-looking man. The person who saw them on the plane also said he/she spoke to this Asian-looking man, but still said his partner was his girlfriend rather than his sister and didn't call her an asian-looking girlfriend.
Kris has dark hair and a baby face and looks like a "nice guy". He could easily be mistaken for being "Asian-looking" by someone who's had a little too much free booze on the plane!
Yeah. That's reading a bit too much into it. Hell, I'm Asian, but I often get confused for a Swede.The two older men on the Phuket plane have been confirmed as Mel & Mike, but has the "asian looking man with his girlfriend" been confirmed as Victor & Tammy?:lol: I'm sure Kris would find this amusing IF he were to read this.
I'm starting to think this "asian looking man with his girlfriend" is actually Kris & Amanda. First, Victor looks clearly Asian... you'd describe him as an Asian man, not an Asian-looking man. The person who saw them on the plane also said he/she spoke to this Asian-looking man, but still said his partner was his girlfriend rather than his sister and didn't call her an asian-looking girlfriend.
Kris has dark hair and a baby face and looks like a "nice guy". He could easily be mistaken for being "Asian-looking" by someone who's had a little too much free booze on the plane!
Yeah. That's reading a bit too much into it. Hell, I'm Asian, but I often get confused for a Swede.The two older men on the Phuket plane have been confirmed as Mel & Mike, but has the "asian looking man with his girlfriend" been confirmed as Victor & Tammy?:lol: I'm sure Kris would find this amusing IF he were to read this.
I'm starting to think this "asian looking man with his girlfriend" is actually Kris & Amanda. First, Victor looks clearly Asian... you'd describe him as an Asian man, not an Asian-looking man. The person who saw them on the plane also said he/she spoke to this Asian-looking man, but still said his partner was his girlfriend rather than his sister and didn't call her an asian-looking girlfriend.
Kris has dark hair and a baby face and looks like a "nice guy". He could easily be mistaken for being "Asian-looking" by someone who's had a little too much free booze on the plane!
So Mel & Mike do make it to Bangkok! I thought they might do so.
Belle Book
Well, I like Mel & Mike well enough, so it's great hearing they get to Bangkok as well as Phuket. This will officially make them the highest-placing father/son team in TAR history now (although they already guaranteed that by making it through the F9 in the last episode, as TAR3's Dennis & Andrew finished tenth, and TAR4's Steve & Josh finished ninth).We don't know that Mel & Mike make it to the leg in Bangkok as that leg comes after Phuket. They were witnessed flying from Bangkok to Phuket only.
But as for being the highest-placing parent/child team ever? Well . . . they'd have to win to beat Ronald & Christina's record. But with Mel's injury, they won't. I still see them going out in fourth.
From Bangkok to Phuket? Doesn't the former come second on the route?Well, I like Mel & Mike well enough, so it's great hearing they get to Bangkok as well as Phuket. This will officially make them the highest-placing father/son team in TAR history now (although they already guaranteed that by making it through the F9 in the last episode, as TAR3's Dennis & Andrew finished tenth, and TAR4's Steve & Josh finished ninth).We don't know that Mel & Mike make it to the leg in Bangkok as that leg comes after Phuket. They were witnessed flying from Bangkok to Phuket only.
But as for being the highest-placing parent/child team ever? Well . . . they'd have to win to beat Ronald & Christina's record. But with Mel's injury, they won't. I still see them going out in fourth.
:waves: hi ready rock thank u for the post. r u talking about the last leg caus they end some where i think sibera, is that in inda?? if so the last leg the team u refer too came in second and there was a stage with a lot of danceing ppl on it..but it is only the 4 th leg of the race. i think they finish the race in hawie??
Alright Guys, We’re At War! (India)we're probably looking at some sort of military themed tasks.
Hey Texas Lady and Tory thanks for ur warm welcome Also wishing u all a happy holi!!! i hope u people know about holi remember tina in green in the last season ok now coming to my point tory i'm not talking about the last episode what i wanna say is that even before the new season went on air back in india they use to show a promo of amazing race where they had clips from previous seasons put together but towards the end i cud see two african ladies in their white jackets running towards phil with teams standing on each sides and cheering them as i mentioned earlier this makes me feel that kisha and jen may definitely be in top 3 unfortunately they have stopped showing that promo now and also the channel's website doesn't feature that video anymore hence i'm not in a position to put forth some concrete proof confirming my info...Anyways once again Happy Holi!!! :jumpy:
Also, during my vacation, i was in China, a city called Dalian, and there are flights from Beijing, to Tokyo(http://)butlanding here first, and i was at the airport around Nov.20 2008 and i saw people running, and they had backpacks and a camera crew ..i think... and at first i thought they were people late for their flight, but in fact, they were racers...well adleast i think they are....anyway, they were asian so thats y i thought it was just people hurring to board. I can say they could be Tammy and Victor.Tokyo?
Also, during my vacation, i was in China, a city called Dalian, and there are flights from Beijing, to Tokyo(http://)butlanding here first, and i was at the airport around Nov.20 2008 and i saw people running, and they had backpacks and a camera crew ..i think... and at first i thought they were people late for their flight, but in fact, they were racers...well adleast i think they are....anyway, they were asian so thats y i thought it was just people hurring to board. I can say they could be Tammy and Victor.Tokyo?
Aha! I've got it! If the race was still going on according to the dates, maybe that explains why only one team other than Jaime & Cara were spotted on their flight out of Beijing. Unless their flight was straight to Maui, maybe the last team took a different flight to a different destination, and the three teams all met up in Tokyo for the final leg of the flight (since lately, the producers seem to want the F3 teams all on as even ground as possible en route to the final city)?
Also, during my vacation, i was in China, a city called Dalian, and there are flights from Beijing, to Tokyo butlanding here first, and i was at the airport around Nov.20 2008 and i saw people running, and they had backpacks and a camera crew ..i think... and at first i thought they were people late for their flight, but in fact, they were racers...well adleast i think they are....anyway, they were asian so thats y i thought it was just people hurring to board. I can say they could be Tammy and Victor.
If not, they could be crew of the amazing race china or something.... :neener: the last part was just guessing
Hey Texas Lady and Tory thanks for ur warm welcome Also wishing u all a happy holi!!! i hope u people know about holi remember tina in green in the last season ok now coming to my point tory i'm not talking about the last episode what i wanna say is that even before the new season went on air back in india they use to show a promo of amazing race where they had clips from previous seasons put together but towards the end i cud see two african ladies in their white jackets running towards phil with teams standing on each sides and cheering them as i mentioned earlier this makes me feel that kisha and jen may definitely be in top 3 unfortunately they have stopped showing that promo now and also the channel's website doesn't feature that video anymore hence i'm not in a position to put forth some concrete proof confirming my info...Anyways once again Happy Holi!!! :jumpy:
Hi ready2rock! Welcome to RFF too! Hehe
I would just like to comment that, could it be from a different season? I cant seem to recall Kisha/Jen wearing white jackets over the course of the race, even in Siberia already (I see them wearing red all the time...), especially the finish line which is in Maui, Hawaii, which we all know is a tropical and warm, humid place, which makes me think that they wouldn't wear jackets either. ;D
Hey guys, what do you think?
But I'm really really rooting for a T/V, C/J, C/J Final Three... :jumpy:
Hey Texas Lady and Tory thanks for ur warm welcome Also wishing u all a happy holi!!! i hope u people know about holi remember tina in green in the last season ok now coming to my point tory i'm not talking about the last episode what i wanna say is that even before the new season went on air back in india they use to show a promo of amazing race where they had clips from previous seasons put together but towards the end i cud see two african ladies in their white jackets running towards phil with teams standing on each sides and cheering them as i mentioned earlier this makes me feel that kisha and jen may definitely be in top 3 unfortunately they have stopped showing that promo now and also the channel's website doesn't feature that video anymore hence i'm not in a position to put forth some concrete proof confirming my info...Anyways once again Happy Holi!!! :jumpy:
Hi ready2rock! Welcome to RFF too! Hehe
I would just like to comment that, could it be from a different season? I cant seem to recall Kisha/Jen wearing white jackets over the course of the race, even in Siberia already (I see them wearing red all the time...), especially the finish line which is in Maui, Hawaii, which we all know is a tropical and warm, humid place, which makes me think that they wouldn't wear jackets either. ;D
Hey guys, what do you think?
But I'm really really rooting for a T/V, C/J, C/J Final Three... :jumpy:
I think K/J making it to the end is possible, however very unlikely.
there have been teams that have made it all the way to the end under the radar. (dan and andrew were last spotted in india, yet made it all the way to the finale) K/J could be the same situation to a greater extent (not seen since romania)
and jackets could mean a lot of things, do you think they could be windreakers?
i think it would be pretty cool to have a suprise team make it to the end
wow thx neobie!
ok...its maybe a little too early to say this, but i think tammy and victor will do pretty well in the two legs in china, (if they make it, which will probaly happen) cause tammy speaks mandrian and victor somehow planned a trip to china all by himself or something...(its in their bio)
Belle Book,
Frank took a long time discussing his route with the Newark Airport taxi driver. If he hadn't done that before getting in the taxi and chose to do it en route, Frank/Margarita would probably have gotten on the same subway run as Rob/Brennan.
Wil spent time trying to cut the taxi line at Oakland International Airport. If Wil/Tara had just gotten into that line when they arrived, nobody could have caught them and the slower speed of Tara would have been irrelevant.
The factors you cite for Colin/Christie at Calgary and in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area are true. Here are two more factors that influenced the outcome. Once the fog came in after Colin/Christie and Brandon/Nicole had started to rest in the Calgary airport hotel, Chip/Kim were incredibly lucky to be in the right place at the right time. They caught a small window of available flight reservations for the Denver to Dallas flight that closed and could not be attained by the other two teams. That still would not have mattered if the American Airlines agent had not recommended that both teams check their excess luggage on the American flight. That did not matter for the Calgary to Denver flight but airport officials in Denver applied strict guidelines and prevented them from going standby on the United Denver to Dallas flight, the one Chip/Kim were on. The American flight from Dallas to Denver got them in just over 10 minutes behind.
So these things are complex and you can't say that any team lost as a result of hometown knowledge.
Belle Book,
Frank took a long time discussing his route with the Newark Airport taxi driver. If he hadn't done that before getting in the taxi and chose to do it en route, Frank/Margarita would probably have gotten on the same subway run as Rob/Brennan.
Wil spent time trying to cut the taxi line at Oakland International Airport. If Wil/Tara had just gotten into that line when they arrived, nobody could have caught them and the slower speed of Tara would have been irrelevant.
The factors you cite for Colin/Christie at Calgary and in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area are true. Here are two more factors that influenced the outcome. Once the fog came in after Colin/Christie and Brandon/Nicole had started to rest in the Calgary airport hotel, Chip/Kim were incredibly lucky to be in the right place at the right time. They caught a small window of available flight reservations for the Denver to Dallas flight that closed and could not be attained by the other two teams. That still would not have mattered if the American Airlines agent had not recommended that both teams check their excess luggage on the American flight. That did not matter for the Calgary to Denver flight but airport officials in Denver applied strict guidelines and prevented them from going standby on the United Denver to Dallas flight, the one Chip/Kim were on. The American flight from Dallas to Denver got them in just over 10 minutes behind.
So these things are complex and you can't say that any team lost as a result of hometown knowledge.
That's what I was trying to say, even if some of the details weren't quite accurate -- the curse of the hometown team doesn't really exist because other factors came into play.
Belle Book
*Praying Tammy & Victor won't be another reincarnation of "Team Domination"*If that's the Spanglers, then I hope they are, minus a victory on the final leg. That'd knock Victor down a few pegs.
*Praying Tammy & Victor won't be another reincarnation of "Team Domination"*
I failed to interpret anything significant from any of the interviews...Exactly, so whats the point?
Yes, so what exactly are you confused about, ready2rock?
Mel and Mike and Jaime and Cara, Tammy and Victor and Mark and Mike onwards and Margie and Luke look safe so Kisha and Jen are my next boots!No good. According to puddin, the sisters actually get past the Phuket leg and make the F5. So it's one of the other five who won't be around for the Bangkok leg.
Mel and Mike and Jaime and Cara, Tammy and Victor and Mark and Mike onwards and Margie and Luke look safe so Kisha and Jen are my next boots!No good. According to puddin, the sisters actually get past the Phuket leg and make the F5. So it's one of the other five who won't be around for the Bangkok leg.
Mel and Mike and Jaime and Cara, Tammy and Victor and Mark and Mike onwards and Margie and Luke look safe so Kisha and Jen are my next boots!
Besides, carrying two buckets is not a punishable offense, you just drop one and move on.
Taking private transportation is considered a no-no most of the time (although Linda rode in a private car earlier this season and we didn't see any penalty assessed) and also, taking a taxi or bus when the clue clearly states "walk" and we saw that with Heather & Eve in TAR 3.
I think Kris said he did the same thing as Linda....at same spot.....just earlier......from his interviws........but they were not penalized.
It also seems that penalties are given to Teams but not told to the audience.
Mel and Mike and Jaime and Cara, Tammy and Victor and Mark and Mike onwards and Margie and Luke look safe so Kisha and Jen are my next boots!
At the terminal we discovered we had ended up on the same flight as the cheerleaders (Cara/Jaime) and the Mom/son (Margie/Luke). To the annoyance of the airline ground staff the film crew kept trying to jump ahead in line and was filming other passengers boarding the plane. I pray my exhausted scowl does not make national television. It would not be an attractive moment to have aired.
We then came across Phil at the JAL transfer desk in Tokyo. He was actually traveling with Tammy/Victor and BVM. insert: They were ahead of us in line.
... (basically the whole story above)
Phil didn't really interact with anyone besides an older man who I would assume was a producer of some sort. Photo confirmation that this was Bertram Van Munster—insert: And it definitely was Bertram Van Munster that was with them, he and Phil didn't really interact with anyone but each other.
The crew and such traveling with Phil/BVM/Tammy/Victor were considerably nicer than the ones on her flight and were discussing how they had been celebrating someone's birthday a few days prior and someone had accidentally ruined the surprise cake by letting the secret slip.
Re-read the post Mooyou, it is all there. :)
T/V are not far ahead, all three teams are in Tokyo airport.
And she was so sorry, but there are no pictures.
The decoy teams are traditionally teams 4 and 5, although there have been a few exceptions.
Speculate away... :waves:
I do recall Victor was very nice to the crew and was trying to get the crew members window seats to sleep by to their next destination...Honolulu. They did film them at the counter if I recall.
Decoys absolutely get filmed AND have camera crews.
So you all saw T/V in confessional clearly in China!!!
So you all saw T/V in confessional clearly in China!!!What time Chateau?
Wel wrong thread but this one?
Wel wrong thread but this one?
That's the one! China huh?
I was thinking it was Europe! LOL .. okay moving this to the spec thread okay?Wel wrong thread but this one?
That's the one! China huh?
More often than not the teams have been bunched together on the flight to the final destination, either through an early morning/late night pit start (Russia last year being a good example), an extended pit stop (Guam), or various tasks in the intermediate destination (Paris, Puerto Rico, Hawaii all those times)I agree. I could see it happening through a U-Turn on leg ten and coming in last on an NEL, and then being unable to make up the time following their Speed Bump on leg eleven. I don't think they'd be traveling with Phil if they were still in the race. But if they are, then I assume something would bunch them up.
I really think T/V are the decoys in this instance.
I agree. I could see it happening through a U-Turn on leg ten and coming in last on an NEL, and then being unable to make up the time following their Speed Bump on leg eleven. I don't think they'd be traveling with Phil if they were still in the race. But if they are, then I assume something would bunch them up.
So if they go out, I think Mark & Michael will be that last F3 team since they slowly seem to be turning into the villains of the race.
Tammy is talking about nothing specific so I guess it could be from a previous pit stop. :duno:I'm looking Chateau,, was it the bob sled in Novosibirsk ?
Huh? When was this law passed? They could be eliminated any leg due to a random chance task or a penalty. They are unlikely to be eliminated on a task involving physical action or brains.Decoys absolutely get filmed AND have camera crews.The only way T/V could be eliminated in China is if one of the other teams (C/J to be more specific) U-turn T/V.
but i think Tammy/Victor might be the decoys in this instance
Not necessarily. If they're decoys, they do everything as if they're still in the race including buying tickets.
Not necessarily. If they're decoys, they do everything as if they're still in the race including buying tickets.
We did have Kelly and Christie just watching Andrew and Dan doing their speed bump last season, so they might not always do the exact same as the other teams. They should have been doing the roadblock or the detour.
If the spoilers are to be believed and we're left with a F3 of T/V, M/L and C/J, I pray to the sweet baby Jesus that we're spared a Tammy/Victor win....but mostly because I cannot stand Victor. I know that Margie/Luke (can be cloying and fishing for sympathy) and Jamie/Cara (ugly americans) have their faults and all...but they must have worked damn hard to get where they got if the spoilers are correct and they were all spotted going from China to Hawaii.
More than all that, it would be SUPER refreshing to see a team that wasn't so. ****ing. inevitable. Last season wasn't necessarily a turd, but it was too damn predictable with Nick & Starr winning nearly every damn leg and then the whole thing. I guess a season cannot be so unpredictable...as it has been up till now.
If all of this is the case, then Kisha and Jen are most likely 5th.Agreed. It's looking more and more like Kisha & Jen go out in Guilin (since Bangkok will obviously be an NEL), and then either Tammy & Victor or Mark & Michael go out on the second Beijing leg, leaving the other in the F3, possibly as the fall-behind team that finishes after both the first- and second-place teams.
Hey everyone!!! i found this on one of the websites thought of sharing it with you all.
"Teams eliminated early in the race are then flown to a common location known as "Sequesterville" where teams are allowed to relax and sight-see (though with restrictions), until they are then flown to the final city for the very end of the Race. The 4th, 5th, and 6th place teams do not necessarily go to Sequesterville; instead, they may either accompany production through the last few legs and meet up with the rest of the eliminated teams at the finish line (in order to cut down on travel costs), or they may be asked to perform "decoy runs", usually flying into the final city or a different city with a camera crew, a day or so before the final three teams arrive, in order to throw off potential spoilers for the final teams."
With all this info i am quite sure that T/V are not one of the final 3 teams...what do u'll say???
And wiki is often wrong about TAR so while the above info is generally correct, we have to take what is on there with a grain of salt.
Hey everyone!!! i found this on one of the websites thought of sharing it with you all.
"Teams eliminated early in the race are then flown to a common location known as "Sequesterville" where teams are allowed to relax and sight-see (though with restrictions), until they are then flown to the final city for the very end of the Race. The 4th, 5th, and 6th place teams do not necessarily go to Sequesterville; instead, they may either accompany production through the last few legs and meet up with the rest of the eliminated teams at the finish line (in order to cut down on travel costs), or they may be asked to perform "decoy runs", usually flying into the final city or a different city with a camera crew, a day or so before the final three teams arrive, in order to throw off potential spoilers for the final teams."
With all this info i am quite sure that T/V are not one of the final 3 teams...what do u'll say???
ready2rock, thanks for the information, but many of us already know this, what bothers most is why all three teams, including the producers are all in one place at the same time - producers and decoys must or most likely to be ahead of actual teams. That article also states how decoy teams and production perform decoy runs a day before or hours before, not with the actual teams. Peach's spoiler goes only to show a proof of two teams coming to the final 3, with another one bickering. There is really no proof to which T/V really is eliminated or is the final member of the Final 3. Only time and the eleventh episode would tell. :)
And your source is wiki, almost anyone known to the race have might as well read the article there.
Hey everyone!!! i found this on one of the websites thought of sharing it with you all.
"Teams eliminated early in the race are then flown to a common location known as "Sequesterville" where teams are allowed to relax and sight-see (though with restrictions), until they are then flown to the final city for the very end of the Race. The 4th, 5th, and 6th place teams do not necessarily go to Sequesterville; instead, they may either accompany production through the last few legs and meet up with the rest of the eliminated teams at the finish line (in order to cut down on travel costs), or they may be asked to perform "decoy runs", usually flying into the final city or a different city with a camera crew, a day or so before the final three teams arrive, in order to throw off potential spoilers for the final teams."
With all this info i am quite sure that T/V are not one of the final 3 teams...what do u'll say???
I am totally confused now. ??? I'm fairly new to TAR so I'm not up to speed on NEL's, buying tickets for the camera people etc. etc. but it does seem odd that T/V would be on the same plane as Phil. OTOH, he wasn't talking to them, so.... :umn:If they were in that close proximity with him, they've gotta be decoys, whether they actually directly interacted or not. I'd believe they weren't if they weren't anywhere near Phil, or were on a flight with at least one other team. Still, the penultimate episode will help determine which is the case, so I can't wait to see what it'll have to say.
Usually, Phil tries to fly ahead to the next destination ahead of the teams so he can tape his introductions to the Road Block, Detour and Pit Stop. However, sometimes the teams do catch up. It's rare but it does happen. Do teams often interact with Phil at locations other than the mat? No, but maybe this was one of those rare oddities when Tammy & Victor actually caught up with BVM and Phil. You never know.
Usually, Phil tries to fly ahead to the next destination ahead of the teams so he can tape his introductions to the Road Block, Detour and Pit Stop. However, sometimes the teams do catch up. It's rare but it does happen. Do teams often interact with Phil at locations other than the mat? No, but maybe this was one of those rare oddities when Tammy & Victor actually caught up with BVM and Phil. You never know.
Usually, Phil tries to fly ahead to the next destination ahead of the teams so he can tape his introductions to the Road Block, Detour and Pit Stop. However, sometimes the teams do catch up. It's rare but it does happen. Do teams often interact with Phil at locations other than the mat? No, but maybe this was one of those rare oddities when Tammy & Victor actually caught up with BVM and Phil. You never know.
In season 9 in Italy, BJ and Tyler were ahead of Phil, and Eric and Jeremy were with him. Phil was almost too late for BJ and Tyler at the mat.
Usually, Phil tries to fly ahead to the next destination ahead of the teams so he can tape his introductions to the Road Block, Detour and Pit Stop. However, sometimes the teams do catch up. It's rare but it does happen. Do teams often interact with Phil at locations other than the mat? No, but maybe this was one of those rare oddities when Tammy & Victor actually caught up with BVM and Phil. You never know.
In season 9 in Italy, BJ and Tyler were ahead of Phil, and Eric and Jeremy were with him. Phil was almost too late for BJ and Tyler at the mat.
Were Eric/Jeremy just on the same plane as Phil, or were they travelling with him?
What I got from the spoiler, Tammy/Victor were travelling with Phil and that group, not coincidentally on the same flight
Are we absolutely positive that the person who gave RFF the spoiler is 100% reliable? Remember that we had spoilers about the deaf "girl" in the race, I believe it was Jen, that they had pictures to support and everything. If they are indeed decoys, why have them travel with production? Kind of gives it away.
:duno:
If I remember right, the teams were in coach while Phil was in First Class.
Are we absolutely positive that the person who gave RFF the spoiler is 100% reliable? Remember that we had spoilers about the deaf "girl" in the race, I believe it was Jen, that they had pictures to support and everything. If they are indeed decoys, why have them travel with production? Kind of gives it away.The info comes from this (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg362033.html#msg362033) blogger. I can't see her/him making this up .......
:duno:
oh BOY!!!
From a blog dated 11/25 but describing events that occured 11/21-23 as best as I can tell: Starts at Beijing airport!QuoteThree airlines, twelve “customer service” representatives and multiple people yelling at each other in Mandarin later we found ourselves on an Air China flight back to Tokyo. We’re still not sure why or what they were screaming but it seemed to be the norm for the airport. That said, it was a lovely airport.
During this ordeal we couldn’t help but notice two groups of travelers flashing American passports being flanked by their own teams of cameramen looking a little too giddy to be at the airport in Beijing at 8am. Oddly enough, it seems that we found ourselves in the middle of CBS’ “Amazing Race” with two teams on our flight. Without giving too much away, I can assure you that all of the panic and suspense of the actual show comes from some really great editing. On this particular day we found ourselves watching the double mint twins in matching sweatshirts, bleached teeth and badly dyed red hair preen the entire time for the cameras.
M had to remind me a few times that something are better thought than said aloud and that when calling people “twits” and such it’s best to do it at a volume they can’t hear you.
Forthunately the flight itself wasn’t bad as a nap and bag of M&Ms calmed me down considerable after being cut in front of by the camera crew multiple times had me rather annoyed.
Still we had quite a ways to go and even bumped into the host Phil Keoghan as he waited for his flight to film the finale in Hawaii. It’s important to note that the running, fighting and begging for seats that you see on TV didn’t really happen and oh yeah, Phil flies business class.
Mooyou,apskip, I also think that they'ed be bunched up in Tokyo, but what I was saying in my previous post is one of I think a reason for Cara/Jaime to say that there is a third team fighting with each other to Margie/Luke, which could probably "prove" Tammy/Victor's "exsitence" still in the game hopefully.. although I may be wrong, because this spoiler made waves... Could C/J and M/L were just lost in Narita Terminal 1? (But I don't really know since I myself couldn't tell cause I haven't been to Japan), but sadly, we probably wouldn't know what the actual scenes are unless from the interviews, since BVM is cutting almost all airport scenes this season.
If you have watched past Amazing Races, one of the things you come to expect as a given, unless a team is lagging too far behind to be bunched with the other two teams, is that World Race Productions forces all 3 teams onto the same flight to the destination. Now, since Honolulu to Kahului, Maui has flights every 20 minutes throughout the day, the Honolulu segment effectively becomes that flight. I expect out of Tokyo all teams will be on the same flight, which is in complete agreeement with your thinking. Now, there are 9 daily nonstop flights from Tokyo-Narita to Honolulu so I am not sure how WRP is going to acoomplish it this time. But you can be assured that they will, as they want all teams to be equal as they arrive at the final place. It brings much more drama to the Finale. What happens from Beijing to Narita is irrelevant as long as a team does not fall too far behind.
That was it. Phil was in Business Class. It appears everyone caught up with Phil/BVM. I'm going to say Tammy & Victor are not eliminated and are in the Final 3.
Mooyou,
If you have watched past Amazing Races, one of the things you come to expect as a given, unless a team is lagging too far behind to be bunched with the other two teams, is that World Race Productions forces all 3 teams onto the same flight to the destination. Now, since Honolulu to Kahului, Maui has flights every 20 minutes throughout the day, the Honolulu segment effectively becomes that flight. I expect out of Tokyo all teams will be on the same flight, which is in complete agreeement with your thinking. Now, there are 9 daily nonstop flights from Tokyo-Narita to Honolulu so I am not sure how WRP is going to acoomplish it this time. But you can be assured that they will, as they want all teams to be equal as they arrive at the final place. It brings much more drama to the Finale. What happens from Beijing to Narita is irrelevant as long as a team does not fall too far behind.
As you all know, RFF first brought you the info about C/J on the flight from Beijing on towards Hawaii.
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Aside from the camera crew cutting in various lines and being a touch rude, I don't honestly remember much else aside from the fact that the cheerleaders were glad another team was fighting and said as much to the Mom/son team. I will say I was surprised at how open the crew was about needing to get certain shots like "the waiting for the plane door to close shot."
Those two teams split in a different direction once we left the plane in Tokyo as we went for our (personal info removed) flight and they went to Hawaii (overheard them saying) and they went onward.
We then came across Phil at the JAL transfer desk in Tokyo. He was actually traveling with Tammy/Victor and BVM. insert: They were ahead of us in line.
<SNIP>
The crew and such traveling with Phil/BVM/Tammy/Victor were considerably nicer than the ones on her flight and were discussing how they had been celebrating someone's birthday a few days prior and someone had accidentally ruined the surprise cake by letting the secret slip.
Once past the transfer desk we had to go downstairs to the Bus station to transfer to another Terminal where we again came across Phil and Tammy/Victor. We rode the bus with them to the other terminal and then lost them in the chaos that is Narita airport. <SNIP>
The crew and such traveling with Phil/BVM/Tammy/Victor were considerably nicer than the ones on her flight and were discussing how they had been celebrating someone's birthday a few days prior and someone had accidentally ruined the surprise cake by letting the secret slip.
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The other thing is it appears T/V were in one the discussion about the birthday party. It almost sounds like something with production and that's where T/V had been. I have a feeling T/V are decoys except that the 5th place team didn't seem to be with production. Although is Phil and BVM considered production? Maybe the 5th place team was already in Hawaii along with the Eliminated teams and that's where Kisha started the laughing at Preston because of the bungee cord.
did we see J/C or M/L get on the same flight to Hawaii as T/V?
i don't remember reading that, but i could be mistaken
if they are susposed to be on the same flight, and since we don't have any spoilers of C/J or M/L getting on the T/V flight, I think that T/V being decoys is still a major possibility
Are we absolutely positive that the person who gave RFF the spoiler is 100% reliable? Remember that we had spoilers about the deaf "girl" in the race, I believe it was Jen, that they had pictures to support and everything. If they are indeed decoys, why have them travel with production? Kind of gives it away.
:duno:
I don't think we were saying you implied that, LW, it just got us to thinking again. With no episode this week, we have a lot of time to speculate.
That bunching is not going to occur in Honolulu as flights to Kahului, Maui are about 3 every hour. It has to happen if at all (and it always does for an Amazing Race finale unless a team is way behind) in Tokyo-Narita airport since doing it in Beijing does not accomplish much unless it is again done in Narita.
Cara and Jamie were with camera's! On camera. I dont think they were decoys!
zackattack308,
With the continuous schedule of flights to Kahului (actually only sometimes 3 per hour; it averages 2), teams can leave from 520am until 940pm from HNL to Kauhului. Why would they go anywhere outside the airport where they could have been spotted?
There is a possibility I have discovered. It is flights to Maui-Kapala airport, a much less busy one. There are only four 30 minute flights on Saturdays(like Nov.22):
0700
0950
1135
1645
If they went there then all teams could be bunched on HA3852 the 0950 flight arriving 1022. Since that allows for a more orderly transfer of cameras, sound equipment, etc., it does had some sense vs. the pell-mell rush to the next Kahului flight.
What if the converse is true (probably not, but humor me)? Couldn't T/V be in the F3, but M/L and C/J be decoys? Mark/Mel went to sequester so it's a good chance that 5th and 4th are decoys. And from what I've heard in prior seasons, decoys fly together/travel together (TARAS had the Chas, U/J and Guido on one flight, TAR12 had the Goths and Az/Hendi together in Japan).
Though I think it's more likely that the three we saw are our final three (and that there's probably bunching involved at some point).
Cara and Jamie were with camera's! On camera. I dont think they were decoys!
Decoys are filmed too, kiwi., so you can't use that to judge.zackattack308,
With the continuous schedule of flights to Kahului (actually only sometimes 3 per hour; it averages 2), teams can leave from 520am until 940pm from HNL to Kauhului. Why would they go anywhere outside the airport where they could have been spotted?
There is a possibility I have discovered. It is flights to Maui-Kapalua airport, a much less busy one. There are only four 30 minute flights on Saturdays(like Nov.22):
0700
0950
1135
1645
If they went there then all teams could be bunched on HA3852 the 0950 flight arriving 1022. Since that allows for a more orderly transfer of cameras, sound equipment, etc., it does had some sense vs. the pell-mell rush to the next Kahului flight.
Which airport is closer to the known Pitstop?? I know there will be things in between, but maybe that will help??
I keep thinking of AllStars when they used the helicopters (charter) not scheduled flights...
Dr. Rox,
When I was there at Haleakala National Park, going down into the volcano was only by foot. The 37 mile bicycle ride is along the outside edge of the volcano.
Although inside the volcano during an eruption might be cool. :lol:
Although inside the volcano during an eruption might be cool. :lol:
Then they wouldn't air this season!
:funny:
I am guessing J/C will U-TURN T/V if they get ahead of them in china~I won't be surprised at all if that happens. Remember Margie and Jaime's confessionals saying they don't think they can trust Victor? I do have a feeling that's gonna be addressed again, possibly on the first Beijing leg, and that it'll be one of the main reasons Jaime & Cara U-Turn Tammy & Victor (since Margie & Luke can't, having used theirs already on Amanda & Kris). That, and them being a generally strong team, of course.
If that really happen, J/C/M/L can be named U-turn alliance~
^^ Yeah, I won't be surprised too, if that happens. And if the U-turn is on an elimination leg, perhaps Tammy and Victor are really going out at fourth.
^^ Yeah, I won't be surprised too, if that happens. And if the U-turn is on an elimination leg, perhaps Tammy and Victor are really going out at fourth.No, I think it'll be on the first Beijing leg, an NEL, and then Tammy & Victor may get Speed Bumped out of the race on the final elimination leg, the second Beijing leg.
^^ Yeah, I won't be surprised too, if that happens. And if the U-turn is on an elimination leg, perhaps Tammy and Victor are really going out at fourth.
Perhaps this will be one of the few times a team makes the right decision with the Yields/U-turns! That would be interesting to watch!
That was only speculation, though. I admit I could totally be wrong, though I could see what I threw out there actually happening.^^ Yeah, I won't be surprised too, if that happens. And if the U-turn is on an elimination leg, perhaps Tammy and Victor are really going out at fourth.
Perhaps this will be one of the few times a team makes the right decision with the Yields/U-turns! That would be interesting to watch!
Well, Margie & Luke also made the right decision with the U-Turn, but yeah it would also be a time when a team made the right decision if Cara & Jamie used it on Tammy & Victor.
And incidentally, I agree with Ashe that Cara & Jamie will U-Turn Tammy & Victor on the non-elimination leg, while the Speed Bump ultimately takes the brother & sister out of the race (kind of like what happened in my Fantasy Amazing Race when Heather & Karen U-Turned Dylan & Jason, although my episode was a TBC leg and didn't have the Speed Bump).
Belle Book
Hold you horses there Ashe. That source you cited ALWAYS says one team is eliminated. They have said it in the past when it was actually a NEL. It is their standard copy. Rather than saying that an elimination is a FACT, would be much better to say that Zap2it.com reports that is it an elimination.I'll believe there's no elimination when I see it, thank you.
A U-Turn being used on T/V remains complete speculation at this point.
A U-Turn being used on T/V remains complete speculation at this point.
We know. We're just enjoying a nice dream... :pfight: :zz:
Hold you horses there Ashe. That source you cited ALWAYS says one team is eliminated. They have said it in the past when it was actually a NEL. It is their standard copy. Rather than saying that an elimination is a FACT, would be much better to say that Zap2it.com reports that is it an elimination.
And as I said before, I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, I don't.Hold you horses there Ashe. That source you cited ALWAYS says one team is eliminated. They have said it in the past when it was actually a NEL. It is their standard copy. Rather than saying that an elimination is a FACT, would be much better to say that Zap2it.com reports that is it an elimination.
Thank you DrRox, you are completely correct.
And as I said before, I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, I don't.Hold you horses there Ashe. That source you cited ALWAYS says one team is eliminated. They have said it in the past when it was actually a NEL. It is their standard copy. Rather than saying that an elimination is a FACT, would be much better to say that Zap2it.com reports that is it an elimination.
Thank you DrRox, you are completely correct.
Re: TAR14 EP9: 'Our Parents Will Cry Themselves to Death' (China)
Charla and Mirna makes a cameo at the finish line of TAR 14, that i'm pretty sure off.
Hold you horses there Ashe. That source you cited ALWAYS says one team is eliminated. They have said it in the past when it was actually a NEL. It is their standard copy. Rather than saying that an elimination is a FACT, would be much better to say that Zap2it.com reports that is it an elimination.I'll believe there's no elimination when I see it, thank you.
Fine. Yes, I am.Hold you horses there Ashe. That source you cited ALWAYS says one team is eliminated. They have said it in the past when it was actually a NEL. It is their standard copy. Rather than saying that an elimination is a FACT, would be much better to say that Zap2it.com reports that is it an elimination.I'll believe there's no elimination when I see it, thank you.
I guess you are a believer now, eh?
Speculation:Wow. That'd be a . . . really awful F3, because it'd be too damn obvious Tammy & Victor would win.
Cheerleaders suffer Taxi problem in china and eliminated at 5th, M/M survive!
Magrie Luke lost alli and were U-turned and eliminated at 4th!
LOL, Then F3 will be Brothers & Sisters, Sisters Win :sucks[Kisha Jen Tammy], Brothers Lose :meow:[Victor, M/M] :umn:
I am trying to go against the spoilers we have right now :P
We were flying on an Air China/ANA code share from Beijing to Tokyo on the 21st of November, flight later ID’d as CA925/NH5702 0930-1350.
At the terminal we discovered we had ended up on the same flight as the cheerleaders (Cara/Jaime) and the Mom/son (Margie/Luke).
Once we got on the plane, ...... I don't honestly remember much else aside from the fact that the cheerleaders were glad another team was fighting and said as much to the Mom/son team.
We then came across Phil at the JAL transfer desk in Tokyo. He was actually traveling with Tammy/Victor and BVM. insert: They were ahead of us in line. I do recall Victor was very nice to the crew and was trying to get the crew members window seats to sleep by, to their next destination...Honolulu. They did film them at the counter if I recall.
The crew and such traveling with Phil/BVM/Tammy/Victor were considerably nicer than the ones on her flight
So this is MY SPECULATION only and only MINE.Yep. I think this is it, too. If this ends up being the second time two women's teams make the F3, I'll have a complete orgasm that'll be heard from miles away. An orgasm to end all orgasms.
Margie/Luke, Jamie/Cara and Kisha/Jen for Final 3 and Tammy/Victor for a decoy team.
What is really amazing to me, is how two 6'+ slender, young, attractive, American black females can go from Romania to Hawaii, without apparently being noticed or seen. They really have flown UNDER THE RADAR.
(Puddin and Peach: Did I make that clear enough?)
We were flying on an Air China/ANA code share from Beijing to Tokyo on the 21st of November, flight later ID’d as CA925/NH5702 0930-1350.
At the terminal we discovered we had ended up on the same flight as the cheerleaders (Cara/Jaime) and the Mom/son (Margie/Luke).
Once we got on the plane, ...... I don't honestly remember much else aside from the fact that the cheerleaders were glad another team was fighting and said as much to the Mom/son team.
So, which is the "other team fighting"? Is it Kisha/Jen or Tammy/Victor?
We then came across Phil at the JAL transfer desk in Tokyo. He was actually traveling with Tammy/Victor and BVM. insert: They were ahead of us in line. I do recall Victor was very nice to the crew and was trying to get the crew members window seats to sleep by, to their next destination...Honolulu. They did film them at the counter if I recall.
The crew and such traveling with Phil/BVM/Tammy/Victor were considerably nicer than the ones on her flight
I don't see anything in her statements to suggest that T/V were fighting, either amongst themselves or with another team, at all. Quite the contrary, Victor's demeanor seems quit calm and reserved from her observations. To me, the "other team fighting" is probably much more likely to be Kisha/Jen, especially from the previews for Episode 9. Add the fact that T/V are on the same exact flight with PK/BVM, when there are so many flights to Hawii, at the same basic times, just "ain't right" if they are racing. With so many flights, I just think that TPTB would "prohibit" travel on the same flight with the big wigs, in the travel instructions, ie "You may not use JAL flight xxxx."
So this is MY SPECULATION only and only MINE.
Margie/Luke, Jamie/Cara and Kisha/Jen for Final 3 and Tammy/Victor for a decoy team.
What is really amazing to me, is how two 6'+ slender, young, attractive, American black females can go from Romania to Hawaii, without apparently being noticed or seen. They really have flown UNDER THE RADAR.
(Puddin and Peach: Did I make that clear enough?)
We were flying on an Air China/ANA code share from Beijing to Tokyo on the 21st of November, flight later ID’d as CA925/NH5702 0930-1350.
At the terminal we discovered we had ended up on the same flight as the cheerleaders (Cara/Jaime) and the Mom/son (Margie/Luke).
Once we got on the plane, ...... I don't honestly remember much else aside from the fact that the cheerleaders were glad another team was fighting and said as much to the Mom/son team.
So, which is the "other team fighting"? Is it Kisha/Jen or Tammy/Victor?
We then came across Phil at the JAL transfer desk in Tokyo. He was actually traveling with Tammy/Victor and BVM. insert: They were ahead of us in line. I do recall Victor was very nice to the crew and was trying to get the crew members window seats to sleep by, to their next destination...Honolulu. They did film them at the counter if I recall.
The crew and such traveling with Phil/BVM/Tammy/Victor were considerably nicer than the ones on her flight
I don't see anything in her statements to suggest that T/V were fighting, either amongst themselves or with another team, at all. Quite the contrary, Victor's demeanor seems quit calm and reserved from her observations. To me, the "other team fighting" is probably much more likely to be Kisha/Jen, especially from the previews for Episode 9. Add the fact that T/V are on the same exact flight with PK/BVM, when there are so many flights to Hawii, at the same basic times, just "ain't right" if they are racing. With so many flights, I just think that TPTB would "prohibit" travel on the same flight with the big wigs, in the travel instructions, ie "You may not use JAL flight xxxx."
So this is MY SPECULATION only and only MINE.
Margie/Luke, Jamie/Cara and Kisha/Jen for Final 3 and Tammy/Victor for a decoy team.
What is really amazing to me, is how two 6'+ slender, young, attractive, American black females can go from Romania to Hawaii, without apparently being noticed or seen. They really have flown UNDER THE RADAR.
(Puddin and Peach: Did I make that clear enough?)
I agree with you -- Cara & Jamie, LaKisha & Jen and Margie & Luke make the Final 3, leaving Tammy & Victor and Mark & Michael out of luck. I'm not upset about Mark & Michael -- they're idiots of the first order, but I am a little sad about Tammy & Victor.
Belle Book
I don't agree. Twice, they should've gone home. They've only been saved by Christie & Jodi's incompetent driver first getting lost in India, then stopping for gas. (And the Speed Bump didn't help, either.) Second, this past leg's performance should've been elimination-worthy, and it wasn't only because it was the standard NEL.We were flying on an Air China/ANA code share from Beijing to Tokyo on the 21st of November, flight later ID’d as CA925/NH5702 0930-1350.
At the terminal we discovered we had ended up on the same flight as the cheerleaders (Cara/Jaime) and the Mom/son (Margie/Luke).
Once we got on the plane, ...... I don't honestly remember much else aside from the fact that the cheerleaders were glad another team was fighting and said as much to the Mom/son team.
So, which is the "other team fighting"? Is it Kisha/Jen or Tammy/Victor?
We then came across Phil at the JAL transfer desk in Tokyo. He was actually traveling with Tammy/Victor and BVM. insert: They were ahead of us in line. I do recall Victor was very nice to the crew and was trying to get the crew members window seats to sleep by, to their next destination...Honolulu. They did film them at the counter if I recall.
The crew and such traveling with Phil/BVM/Tammy/Victor were considerably nicer than the ones on her flight
I don't see anything in her statements to suggest that T/V were fighting, either amongst themselves or with another team, at all. Quite the contrary, Victor's demeanor seems quit calm and reserved from her observations. To me, the "other team fighting" is probably much more likely to be Kisha/Jen, especially from the previews for Episode 9. Add the fact that T/V are on the same exact flight with PK/BVM, when there are so many flights to Hawii, at the same basic times, just "ain't right" if they are racing. With so many flights, I just think that TPTB would "prohibit" travel on the same flight with the big wigs, in the travel instructions, ie "You may not use JAL flight xxxx."
So this is MY SPECULATION only and only MINE.
Margie/Luke, Jamie/Cara and Kisha/Jen for Final 3 and Tammy/Victor for a decoy team.
What is really amazing to me, is how two 6'+ slender, young, attractive, American black females can go from Romania to Hawaii, without apparently being noticed or seen. They really have flown UNDER THE RADAR.
(Puddin and Peach: Did I make that clear enough?)
I agree with you -- Cara & Jamie, LaKisha & Jen and Margie & Luke make the Final 3, leaving Tammy & Victor and Mark & Michael out of luck. I'm not upset about Mark & Michael -- they're idiots of the first order, but I am a little sad about Tammy & Victor.
Belle Book
I think it a little much to be saying they are idiots of the first order. Give credit where credit is due. They have raced well enough to secure their current positions. They may have been a little over the top, but they are certainly not idiotic. (Remember editing is everything) That being said, I'm not sure if they will recover from the penalty imposed.
There is the remote possibility that Guilin may be the second of two consecutive NELs. In that case Mark and Michael could make it to Beijing.If they go 10 hours behind the 4th place team in the next leg as speculated, they might as well go home. It's possible they could make up time, but it's awfully hard as the race stands now.
With Mark/Michael's penalties + their speedbump alongside the little snippet from the preview showing us three (supposedly) safe teams checking in together they are practically doomed this next leg.
What I also found interesting is all this talk about Victor and Tammy's horrible Romania leg. They just won't let us forget that a team can go from the top of the pack to the bottom. What does this spell out? A Victor and Tammy elimination of course. (or a last placement on a non-elimination is possible too)
Speculation:Wow. That'd be a . . . really awful F3, because it'd be too damn obvious Tammy & Victor would win.
Cheerleaders suffer Taxi problem in china and eliminated at 5th, M/M survive!
Magrie Luke lost alli and were U-turned and eliminated at 4th!
LOL, Then F3 will be Brothers & Sisters, Sisters Win :sucks[Kisha Jen Tammy], Brothers Lose :meow:[Victor, M/M] :umn:
I am trying to go against the spoilers we have right now :P
. . . With Jaime & Cara in third possibly (and this is only speculation) because Jaime's taxicab driver treatment karma comes back to bite her sometime on the final leg, and one driver refuses service to her and Cara. Margie & Luke and Kisha & Jen, based on the upcoming scuffle and subsequent feud, fight it out for the top two spots instead.
I bet that Jamie would have taxi cab problems on Calle Ocho in her hometown.
I bet that Jamie would have taxi cab problems on Calle Ocho in her hometown.
Actually, I think Jaime is just suffering from an accumulation of too much non-English. She was mostly ok in the beginning, but her temperament has gotten progressively worse each eposide. Of course, the escalation could just be editing and she was really nasty at the start.
I just found a you-tube clip that may shed some light on the issue. Apparently Jaime gets carsick. So between nausea and failure to communicate, Jaime is not a happy traveler. Why someone that gets car sick and can't deal with non-English wanted to travel the world is beyond me!
Good point on the Romania leg! I never thought about that idea. CBS certainly has been messing with our heads a whole lot better than last season.
I dare not hope it, but I think Tammy & Victor are out in fourth. But! Next week's preview has no sign of Jaime & Cara, so there is a very slight possibility that something awful happens to them and then Margie & Luke are out after that. But I also think that Mark & Michael are as good as gone now. It's too bad because I thought they would be different than they have turned out.
I actually have no clue as to who goes in 4th. I almost sense that Mark/Mike are next to go, but for 4th:
Tammy/Victor could be U-Turned for being a threat next leg and end up in 4th for failing to catch up on Beijing 2.
Jaime/Cara could end up having more language issues and end up in 4th.
Kisha/Jen could make a Bangkok-like fatal mistake and end up in 4th.
Margie/Luke could produce more conflict and get U-Turned, end up in 4th for failing to catch up on Beijing 2.
I actually have no clue as to who goes in 4th. I almost sense that Mark/Mike are next to go, but for 4th:
Tammy/Victor could be U-Turned for being a threat next leg and end up in 4th for failing to catch up on Beijing 2.
Jaime/Cara could end up having more language issues and end up in 4th.
Kisha/Jen could make a Bangkok-like fatal mistake and end up in 4th.
Margie/Luke could produce more conflict and get U-Turned, end up in 4th for failing to catch up on Beijing 2.
Unless the three-team pileup on the mat is third through fifth place, and Tammy & Victor are last (which would also explain the title of the next episode -- their parents probably would be unhappy about them being eliminated in the country of their ancestry). Of course, that would mean Mark & Michael catch up again somehow, probably through a bunch-up. And supposedly, they had no chance of doing so (though it hasn't been confirmed that everyone arrived FAR ahead of them, and I'm still waiting for it to be confirmed, since there was more than likely a chance for them to catch up if the flights were in the middle of the night).I actually have no clue as to who goes in 4th. I almost sense that Mark/Mike are next to go, but for 4th:
Tammy/Victor could be U-Turned for being a threat next leg and end up in 4th for failing to catch up on Beijing 2.
Jaime/Cara could end up having more language issues and end up in 4th.
Kisha/Jen could make a Bangkok-like fatal mistake and end up in 4th.
Margie/Luke could produce more conflict and get U-Turned, end up in 4th for failing to catch up on Beijing 2.
Since Cara & Jamie and Margie & Luke were spotted on the same plane, I'm assuming that neither one winds up in fourth. I think it's between Tammy & Victor being U-Turned and possibly getting further bad luck in Beijing or LaKisha & Jen making a fatal mistake for the fourth place position. Since Tammy & Victor were spotted in the same area (at least) as Phil and the executive producer, I'm going with Tammy & Victor being U-Turned and maybe having further bad luck, leaving LaKisha & Jen to be in the Final 3.
Belle Book
Possible, but highly unlikely Ashe, for the simple reason that the eliminated team hasn't said the title in any episode that I remember. Has any eliminated team said the quote that became the title in any season?you decide
Belle Book
Unless the three-team pileup on the mat is third through fifth place, and Tammy & Victor are last (which would also explain the title of the next episode -- their parents probably would be unhappy about them being eliminated in the country of their ancestry). Of course, that would mean Mark & Michael catch up again somehow, probably through a bunch-up. And supposedly, they had no chance of doing so (though it hasn't been confirmed that everyone arrived FAR ahead of them, and I'm still waiting for it to be confirmed, since there was more than likely a chance for them to catch up if the flights were in the middle of the night).I actually have no clue as to who goes in 4th. I almost sense that Mark/Mike are next to go, but for 4th:
Tammy/Victor could be U-Turned for being a threat next leg and end up in 4th for failing to catch up on Beijing 2.
Jaime/Cara could end up having more language issues and end up in 4th.
Kisha/Jen could make a Bangkok-like fatal mistake and end up in 4th.
Margie/Luke could produce more conflict and get U-Turned, end up in 4th for failing to catch up on Beijing 2.
Since Cara & Jamie and Margie & Luke were spotted on the same plane, I'm assuming that neither one winds up in fourth. I think it's between Tammy & Victor being U-Turned and possibly getting further bad luck in Beijing or LaKisha & Jen making a fatal mistake for the fourth place position. Since Tammy & Victor were spotted in the same area (at least) as Phil and the executive producer, I'm going with Tammy & Victor being U-Turned and maybe having further bad luck, leaving LaKisha & Jen to be in the Final 3.
Belle Book
SPECULATION!!
The way I see it, M/M are eliminated in the next episode, # 9. M/M don't make the same flight as everyone else due to the 3 hour penalty that has been added to the release time. I think they are so far behind that they aren't even given a chance to do the speed bump. That gives the show more time to concentrate on the mat meltdown. I think J/C may arrive first at the mat this time. According to what I have read here, the mat meltdown appears to be very long. Since you only see K/J, M/L and T/V, I am going to assume that J/C have already checked in and "left". Since dancing or some kind of routine is apparently involved, J/C should have an edge. M/L will finally arrive something beside 1st or 4th. No guess as to which though.
Episode 10 and 11 are both in Beijing. So possibly 10 is a continuation, i.e. no elimination. However, either a U-turn or something else happens in 10 or 11 to cause T/V to fall so far behind that they are eliminated in episode 11. If it is a U-turn, since K/J would probably U-turn M/L, it must be J/C that U-turns T/V since at this moment T/V are the strongest team.
T/V being eliminated is purely based on them being on the same plane as Phil and BVM. I don't see how they would be allowed to travel on the same plane. Phil needs to get there ahead of the other teams to do his set up.
SPECULATION!!
It sounds plausible, but Jaime/Cara could very well end up 4th. I mean, they may do well at the dance, but the locals they may have major issues with, per preview.
SPECULATION!!
It sounds plausible, but Jaime/Cara could very well end up 4th. I mean, they may do well at the dance, but the locals they may have major issues with, per preview.
I considered that. However, the clues imply that Jaime gets frustrated with the dancing judge not understanding her question. Other than that, they should do well with a dance routine. We already know from the Romania episode that most of the others lack the ability to learn a routine quickly and/or are handicapped with a lack of physical co-ordination. Of course, the dance activity may be a detour and the others do something else.
Or J/C could be soooo far behind at 4th, that the mat meltdown is over with before they arrive.
Also, sorry for a second post, the possibility of a U-Turn in the next leg is great, seeing that M/M has a GREAT disadvantage should there not be one. Maybe C/J gets the U-turn and are sent home?
Also, sorry for a second post, the possibility of a U-Turn in the next leg is great, seeing that M/M has a GREAT disadvantage should there not be one. Maybe C/J gets the U-turn and are the decoys?
FINALLY! Bird's Nest Stadium!! And a swimming "Olympic" challenge!! :hearts:
But poor Jen.... :'(
karma karma karma for her
agreed - really not feeling pity for her here
Hi I'm new here.
I agree that karma strikes back for K/J. Also, I think that K/J were not laughing at Luke. She smiles everywhere. Yeah...
My friend, Caryn Bland, she works at a airport in Hawaii.
She said she saw Kisha and Jen there a few months ago. I made her watch the show with me tonight and she said she recognized them.
So 4th place-Tammy/Victor??
Getting off episode nine, which is now over, I found a few interesting tidbit from coolboy66 on Sucks:QuoteMy friend, Caryn Bland, she works at a airport in Hawaii.
She said she saw Kisha and Jen there a few months ago. I made her watch the show with me tonight and she said she recognized them.
So 4th place-Tammy/Victor??
http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/sreply/4316465/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html (http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/sreply/4316465/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html)
Neobie, puddin, georgiapeach, make of it what you will.
Getting off episode nine, which is now over, I found a few interesting tidbit from coolboy66 on Sucks:QuoteMy friend, Caryn Bland, she works at a airport in Hawaii.
She said she saw Kisha and Jen there a few months ago. I made her watch the show with me tonight and she said she recognized them.
So 4th place-Tammy/Victor??
http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/sreply/4316465/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html (http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/sreply/4316465/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html)
Neobie, puddin, georgiapeach, make of it what you will.
I apologize if the answer is posted elsewhere, but I've been searching for awhile and can't find it.
We had reports that Michael and Mark were spotted on a certain flight for this leg, I believe 11:00 PM. After viewing last nights show was that spotting proven correct or a case of misidentification?
Kind of a newbie here, so I am still trying to determine how much faith to put into all these spottings, spoilers and speculations.
Thanks!
Again, doesn't mean a thing at this point. I do remember in an interview that Preston & Jennifer did saying he was joking with Kisha & Jen at Elimination Station about the time it took him to do the bungy jump. Now, Preston's memory could be sketchy on when that joking took place, but until I hear otherwise, I'm thinking Kisha & Jen are out next.Preston never said that Jennifer or Kisha for that matter joked with him at the ES! All he said was that she laughed for weeks. Gosh ..............
I apologize if the answer is posted elsewhere, but I've been searching for awhile and can't find it.Seeing as all teams flew threw Guangzhou I think the odds are good that it was indeed Mark and Michael. The time and date and description matches perfect.
We had reports that Michael and Mark were spotted on a certain flight for this leg, I believe 11:00 PM. After viewing last nights show was that spotting proven correct or a case of misidentification?
Kind of a newbie here, so I am still trying to determine how much faith to put into all these spottings, spoilers and speculations.
Thanks!
We were in the Guangzhou China airport November 17th around 11pm and saw a team of two caucasian men wearing backpacks running through the airport with a cameraman and producer in tow. They were in the baggage claim area and were in a hurry to find something and stopped at hte information desk to ask directions. The cameraman was working to capture every move. The men were both short and appeared to be related. One had a fanny pack that was visible with red/yellow/back horizontal stripes on it. We went up to them and said "Are you with the Amazing Race?". They said "No", but we are waiting for cast pictures to see if they were telling the truth or not.
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They were both rarther short (5 ft 5 or less my guess) with brownish red hair. They looked like they were related. I think at least one of them wore glasses. They were "thick" build but not fat. They were wearing shorts and tshirts and both had on back packs. They were very much in a hurry and looked stressed. There was a camera man that was filming their every move and a person carrying a microphone that was stuck in front of their faces as well. Hope that helps
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It very well could have been Mark and Michael.
Maybe my memory on that was sketchy. :lol:Again, doesn't mean a thing at this point. I do remember in an interview that Preston & Jennifer did saying he was joking with Kisha & Jen at Elimination Station about the time it took him to do the bungy jump. Now, Preston's memory could be sketchy on when that joking took place, but until I hear otherwise, I'm thinking Kisha & Jen are out next.Preston never said that Jennifer or Kisha for that matter joked with him at the ES! All he said was that she laughed for weeks. Gosh ..............
There is no more ES! Mark and Michael did not go as we see on the Insider clips but we already knew that there fore Kisha and Jen never went to ES so that rumor should be squashed .....gosh!
Getting off episode nine, which is now over, I found a few interesting tidbit from coolboy66 on Sucks:maybe just running as decoys...QuoteMy friend, Caryn Bland, she works at a airport in Hawaii.
She said she saw Kisha and Jen there a few months ago. I made her watch the show with me tonight and she said she recognized them.
So 4th place-Tammy/Victor??
http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/sreply/4316465/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html (http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/sreply/4316465/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html)
Neobie, puddin, georgiapeach, make of it what you will.
Well, I think LaKisha & Jen will make the Final 3, so Tammy & Victor will be out, sad to say.I agree. It's the only thing that'd make their blossoming feud with Margie & Luke make any sense.
Well, I think LaKisha & Jen will make the Final 3, so Tammy & Victor will be out, sad to say.I agree. It's the only thing that'd make their blossoming feud with Margie & Luke make any sense.
Now, if it does happen, it'll be interesting to how Tammy & Victor screw up so badly.
I apologize if the answer is posted elsewhere, but I've been searching for awhile and can't find it.
We had reports that Michael and Mark were spotted on a certain flight for this leg, I believe 11:00 PM. After viewing last nights show was that spotting proven correct or a case of misidentification?
Kind of a newbie here, so I am still trying to determine how much faith to put into all these spottings, spoilers and speculations.
Thanks!
Since there isn't very much showing of Tammy and Victor, is it possibe that they come in last and are eliminated on leg 10? I don't see it very likely since they have 2 legs in Beijing back-to-back, but is there still a slight chance?
I copied and pasted this from another thread:No, I think the one who spotted them went in a different direction from them. Either that, or they did split because they had different connecting flights.
"At the terminal we discovered we had ended up on the same flight as the cheerleaders (Cara/Jaime) and the Mom/son (Margie/Luke). To the annoyance of the airline ground staff the film crew kept trying to jump ahead in line and was filming other passengers boarding the plane. I pray my exhausted scowl does not make national television. It would not be an attractive moment to have aired.
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Those two teams split in a different direction once we left the plane in Tokyo as we went for our (personal info removed) flight and they went to Hawaii (overheard them saying) and they went onward. "
Now, why would C/J and M/L split up? I thought they were in an alliance? Could it possibly be Margie/Luke as a decoy and Lakisha/Jen in the Final 3? Mother and son finish 4th place like Toni/Dallas?
The way I read it the spoiler went one way and C/J and M/L went the other way when they got off the plane.
Phil did travel with several teams on the same flight before. If I remember correctly, Lena/Kristy (from Amazing Race 6) mentioned that Phil did travel with them on the same flight to Sweden; however, he was flying business class. (Thats Phil for ya)I don't think he'd fly with the F3 teams on the flight to the final destination city, though. He needs time to get ahead and tape his Detour spots, and then pre-tape his finish line spot.
Phil did travel with several teams on the same flight before. If I remember correctly, Lena/Kristy (from Amazing Race 6) mentioned that Phil did travel with them on the same flight to Sweden; however, he was flying business class. (Thats Phil for ya)I don't think he'd fly with the F3 teams on the flight to the final destination city, though. He needs time to get ahead and tape his Detour spots, and then pre-tape his finish line spot.
Phil did travel with several teams on the same flight before. If I remember correctly, Lena/Kristy (from Amazing Race 6) mentioned that Phil did travel with them on the same flight to Sweden; however, he was flying business class. (Thats Phil for ya)I don't think he'd fly with the F3 teams on the flight to the final destination city, though. He needs time to get ahead and tape his Detour spots, and then pre-tape his finish line spot.
Phil did travel with several teams on the same flight before. If I remember correctly, Lena/Kristy (from Amazing Race 6) mentioned that Phil did travel with them on the same flight to Sweden; however, he was flying business class. (Thats Phil for ya)I don't think he'd fly with the F3 teams on the flight to the final destination city, though. He needs time to get ahead and tape his Detour spots, and then pre-tape his finish line spot.
I believe you are right, but that only applies to the Honolulu to Maui leg. There is no way Phil could get way ahead this time since he is sighted in Tokyo airport with several teams in the are at about the same time. The flights from Tokyo to Honolulu arrive between 630am and 950am. That is not enough to build the time gap Phil needs to do those tasks right.
Getting off episode nine, which is now over, I found a few interesting tidbit from coolboy66 on Sucks:QuoteMy friend, Caryn Bland, she works at a airport in Hawaii.
She said she saw Kisha and Jen there a few months ago. I made her watch the show with me tonight and she said she recognized them.
So 4th place-Tammy/Victor??
http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/sreply/4316465/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html (http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/sreply/4316465/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html)
Neobie, puddin, georgiapeach, make of it what you will.
Depends on what airport (Maui or Oahu) it was. That the spoiler appeared so late in the race doesn't give me much confidence.I agree with Neobie and have some examples to flesh his concept out:
Have you got ideas for the final task of the F3?Yeah . . . but the Phuket, Thailand, greeter didn't seem to have anything special going on.
There is someting fishy wth the pitstop greeters in the race: The eating couple im Gulin, China. The bird man in Bangkok, the Yodelers (I think they are called) in Leg2 Switzerland, the Ballet dancers and dancers in Siberia legs...
Depends on what airport (Maui or Oahu) it was. That the spoiler appeared so late in the race doesn't give me much confidence.Really, would you give out your friends name? "Caryn Bland"
Getting off episode nine, which is now over, I found a few interesting tidbit from coolboy66 on Sucks:QuoteMy friend, Caryn Bland, she works at a airport in Hawaii.
She said she saw Kisha and Jen there a few months ago. I made her watch the show with me tonight and she said she recognized them.
So 4th place-Tammy/Victor??
http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/sreply/4316465/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html (http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/sreply/4316465/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html)
Neobie, puddin, georgiapeach, make of it what you will.
Hi guys, coolboy66 has again posted another info... apparently, Kisha and Jen was spotted by her friend in Hawaii around mid-day, coolboy66 said specifically around 1 pm... What could be our take on this? Isn't this a little late for teams to arrive in order to reach the finish line, complete the roadblock, detour and other tasks and then proceed to finish? Could K/J be actually seen a day before the final 3 teams arrived or could they be way way way behind? What's your shot guys? :lol:
coolboy66's reply can be found here...
http://survivorsucks.com/topic/41155?page=63
..or way ahead
I think that LaKisha & Jen are simply way behind the other two teams, if they made the Final 3 (which I think they did). Cara & Jamie and Margie & Luke got an earlier flight while LaKisha & Jen got a later flight, possibly delayed as well.
Belle Book
...... or decoys.or are just visting Michael Munoz in Maui
...... or decoys.or are just visting Michael Munoz in Maui
.. I predict any of the scenarios posted above will be correct
Well their are so many scenarios posted through out this topic I was being safe so I'll stick with "any" :lol:.. I predict any of the scenarios posted above will be correct
I predict ONE of the scenarios will be correct. :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
I read this at jokers...
There are no more non-eliminations, they were only 2 this season..but they could do the "to be continued" ep NT
I'm trying to figure out if it is fact or speculation. Has anyone heard /read this?
That's why I thought it sounded wrong. I asked the poster, and when they went to verify they found it was stated as 12 legs, with 8 elimination legs. So, yes, we have either a NEL or a TBC. I would guess it is this week. Just trying to decide if they will sneak a TBC in on us.TPTB most certainly could very well sneak in a TBC, really I don't know? I just think no one leaves this week no matter what TPTB have planned as the consensus agrees.
I read this at jokers...
There are no more non-eliminations, they were only 2 this season..but they could do the "to be continued" ep NT
I'm trying to figure out if it is fact or speculation. Has anyone heard /read this?
I think that LaKisha & Jen are simply way behind the other two teams, if they made the Final 3 (which I think they did). Cara & Jamie and Margie & Luke got an earlier flight while LaKisha & Jen got a later flight, possibly delayed as well.
All 3 teams are required to take only one flight to prevent one team from taking a say, very early flight and being way in the lead...
Raymond, that's a decent summary of the history of the finale of Amazing Races with certain exceptions l will address below, but first I want to address your inference that seasons 1, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 10 all had trailing teams and that's why it was a 2 team race to the Finish Line. World Race Productions clearly has a goal reinforced by constant bunching throughout each race to reach a 3 team competition in the finale. The only instances with only 2 teams and extraneous factors were not responsible is "None of the above":
AR1 - Joe/Bill were 24 hours behind and had no chance of catching up
AR4 - Dave/Jeff fly to Sydney instead of to Tokyo and take themselves about 24 hours out of contention
AR5 - the infamous disallowal of Colin/Christie and Brandon/Nicole on the United flight Denver to Dallas only due to the baggage check-in issue; also the fact that this is a genuine 3 team race with Nicole/Brandon maybe 10 minutes behind Colin/Christie at the finish line
AR6 - Adam/Rebecca lag slightly behind in Hawaii
AR7 - Ron/Kelly were even until they miss the exit ramp for San Juan International Airport
AR10 - Lyn/Karlan could not get a seat on sold-out Air France flight CDG to JFK and had to settle for an earlier leaving connection through Dublin to Newark
On the question of your season-by-season summary:
AR1 to 4 - OK
AR5 - Colin/Christie and Brandon/Nicole were denied the right to fly on the United flight Denver to Dallas due to baggage regulations and their checking of their stuff back in Calgary on American Airlines, on whom they were originally ticketed to fly. They were on the same flight from Calgary to Denver as Chip/Kim. It was the flight and not the limo driver problems that caused Colin/Christie being behind.
AR6 - you have cause and effect wrong. The cause of Jon/Kris being behind was their poor decision on which flight to take from Honolulu to Hawaii. The train was superfluous and merely reflected the difference in flights.
AR7 - Uchenna/Joyce and Rob/Amber were able to take the same flight from San Juan to Miami. Soon after arriving, they took different paths through Miami's Little Havana Cuban section. Uchenna/Joyce gained about a 45 minute lead there, most of which they used up in trying to beg for the remainder of their taxi fare from Miami to Ft. Lauderdale. From Little Havana to Ft. Lauderdale and from the bridge jump back almost to San Juan International Airport are the only 2 points where where Uchenna/Joyce were actually ahead in the finale of AR7
AR8 - there was no footrace that I remember. Nick Linz had to run for a very minor amount of yards to reach the Finish Line while Wally Branson had to finish the puzzle.
AR9 - OK
AR10 - the lead for Tyler/James over Rob/Kimberly developed as a results of the EZPass incident at a tollbooth in Queens on the way to Manhattan. They kept this lead for about 30 minutes in Manhattan and maybe 90 minutes driving to Garrison.
AR11 - it depends on what you mean by neck-and-neck. Eric/Danielle won by about 10 minutes over Dustin/Kandice, who were ahead of Charla/Mirna by about 15 minutes at the Finish Line. To me, that is not like AR2 which was real neck-and-neck.
AR12 - from the scale ROADBLOCK on, I saw no neck-and-neck here. I reemmber TK/Rachel winning by at least 10 minutes.
AR13 - this really was neck-and-neck in downtown Portland; you are correct that after Voodoo Doughnuts it widened to 5 to 11 minutes for Nick/Starr over Ken/Tina.
Season 7: Uchenna/Joyce were way ahead of Romber
I asked the poster, and when they went to verify they found it was stated as 12 legs, with 8 elimination legs. So, yes, we have either a NEL or a TBC....Just trying to decide if they will sneak a TBC in on us.
I asked the poster, and when they went to verify they found it was stated as 12 legs, with 8 elimination legs. So, yes, we have either a NEL or a TBC....Just trying to decide if they will sneak a TBC in on us.
A little too late for this now, maybe, but assuming you mean a "To Be Continued" leg, if next leg were one of those, then there wouldn't be 12 legs, would there? There would be 11. :tup:
I asked the poster, and when they went to verify they found it was stated as 12 legs, with 8 elimination legs. So, yes, we have either a NEL or a TBC....Just trying to decide if they will sneak a TBC in on us.
A little too late for this now, maybe, but assuming you mean a "To Be Continued" leg, if next leg were one of those, then there wouldn't be 12 legs, would there? There would be 11. :tup:
No, because both ends of a TBC leg count as 1 leg, giving you a total of 2 for Beijing I and Beijing II if a TBC happens.
The problem with this is that CBS never released how many legs there would be, we had to figure it out on our own through the time/episode threads. I've never read any release where it was stated 11 or 12 legs so as far as we know there are 12 episodes for sure and if there are 12 legs it remains to be seen and of course tonight it will be pretty clear either way.I asked the poster, and when they went to verify they found it was stated as 12 legs, with 8 elimination legs. So, yes, we have either a NEL or a TBC....Just trying to decide if they will sneak a TBC in on us.
A little too late for this now, maybe, but assuming you mean a "To Be Continued" leg, if next leg were one of those, then there wouldn't be 12 legs, would there? There would be 11. :tup:
AR5 - Colin/Christie and Brandon/Nicole were denied the right to fly on the United flight Denver to Dallas due to baggage regulations and their checking of their stuff back in Calgary on American Airlines, on whom they were originally ticketed to fly. They were on the same flight from Calgary to Denver as Chip/Kim. It was the flight and not the limo driver problems that caused Colin/Christie being behind.
Once more: :lol:
Decoys have flown with Phil, Racers have flown with Phil.
Decoys have not flown with Phil, Racers have not flown with Phil.
There is no rule that I am aware of that says racers or decoys can't fly with Phil.
Decoys are filmed, racers are filmed.
Being with or without Phil means nothing.
Phil and Bertram not interacting with racers and/or decoys while the show is filming makes perfect sense.
Period.
With that said, what should "we" assume, speculate, matriculate, etc next?Once more: :lol:
Decoys have flown with Phil, Racers have flown with Phil.
Decoys have not flown with Phil, Racers have not flown with Phil.
There is no rule that I am aware of that says racers or decoys can't fly with Phil.
Decoys are filmed, racers are filmed.
Being with or without Phil means nothing.
Phil and Bertram not interacting with racers and/or decoys while the show is filming makes perfect sense.
Period.
And that's your Race Rule of the Day with your host, georgiapeach! :lol:
Tune in next time as we discuss how it is possible for there to be a TBC in the next 3 episodes! :funny: ;D
Everyone, congratulations on a very successful season.I think it's the former. They might be the only team who doesn't get lost for hours looking for the U-Turn in the next episode and finish hours ahead of everyone else, giving them time to make Phil and Bertram's flight.
I like Tammy and Victor but there's no evidence to determine how they finished. Maybe the design of the upcoming leg allowed them to use their language skills to such an advantage that they finished so far ahead of the others that they ended up on a flight with Phil and BvM. Or, they could have had another catastrophic failure as they incurred in Romania and were eliminated. I hope that it's the former and not the latter, but that's my wishful thinking.
Everyone, congratulations on a very successful season.I think it's the former. They might be the only team who doesn't get lost for hours looking for the U-Turn in the next episode and finish hours ahead of everyone else, giving them time to make Phil and Bertram's flight.
I like Tammy and Victor but there's no evidence to determine how they finished. Maybe the design of the upcoming leg allowed them to use their language skills to such an advantage that they finished so far ahead of the others that they ended up on a flight with Phil and BvM. Or, they could have had another catastrophic failure as they incurred in Romania and were eliminated. I hope that it's the former and not the latter, but that's my wishful thinking.
They'd better somehow get equalized with everyone else, though.
Hooky,It was close to happening in Season 7, but Uchenna and Joyce got lucky...How far behind was the second flight in that season, 2 or 3 hours?
No F3 team in the history of the Amazing Race has ever been able to zoom ahead of the other 2 F3 teams. World Race Productions carefully designs the finish of the penultimate leg and then they typically have massive bunching through one airplane flight at the beginning of the final leg.
sparkling,Then it's one or the other who makes it, not both?
The final 2 legs are the next one to eliminate one team plus the final leg to the Finish Line. That statement is entirely conistent with one of those 2 teams being eliminated in the upcoming episode.
From Phil's blog
Margie-Luke vs. Kisha-Jen continues to fester. They aren't putting aside their differences, which could definitely come into play as they head into the final two legs. As we've seen in all the seasons, it's essential to try and ignore personal feelings when you get to this point in the race. If you don't, you'll definitely lose focus and make mistakes.
Does this imply that M/L & K/J are in the F3?
Images of the fence have made their way onto the walls of art galleries, onto glossy pages of surfing magazines and calendars, and have been used as a backdrop for various television shows. Look for it in an upcoming edition of "Ripley's Believe It or Not!" book and a cameo appearance in the May 3 episode of CBS' "The Amazing Race."source http://www.mauinews.com/page/content.detail/id/517845.html
Unless it is the most elaborate decoy ever, it looks like the sisters are the next to go from this photo taken at the Maui airport.
Thanks to blogger Twice as Nice
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And YES the finale has something to do with surfboards!QuoteImages of the fence have made their way onto the walls of art galleries, onto glossy pages of surfing magazines and calendars, and have been used as a backdrop for various television shows. Look for it in an upcoming edition of "Ripley's Believe It or Not!" book and a cameo appearance in the May 3 episode of CBS' "The Amazing Race."source http://www.mauinews.com/page/content.detail/id/517845.html
I think they may have got the date wrong, but the Surfboard Fence looks like a cool place to put a clue box. http://www.surfboardfence.com/
Now that my friend is what we call spoiling :jumpy:
Yeah. It's over for Kisha & Jen.
But why is it Christie & Jodi rather than Mel & Mike?
Mike is behind. Wearing sandals.:winner :cheesehead :bounce
That boy knows how to race. :groan:
And, er, OMG! It's a surprise twist brings back the eliminated racers, and LaKisha/Jennifer must beat all of them to claim the 1 million dollars!
Cue Puddin... :angel:
Now that my friend is what we call spoiling :jumpy:
Finally!! Welcome back to DETECTIVE Pedaler! :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
......now watch the mass go insane :lol: :popcorn:
Bring on TAR 15!! :wohoo:
Oh my Pedaler... you really made our day! :hearts: :jumpy: I gotta see the ending no matter what place I am in the world during that episode now! (sadly it's almost impossible now... :'( :'( :'()Okay, Mooyou. You got what you wanted. You friggin' happy?
I used to not like Tammy and Victor, but now they are the only team that hasn't had nervous breakdowns, so I am starting to like them the best!Oh my Pedaler... you really made our day! :hearts: :jumpy: I gotta see the ending no matter what place I am in the world during that episode now! (sadly it's almost impossible now... :'( :'( :'()Okay, Mooyou. You got what you wanted. You friggin' happy?
Uh, Romania?I used to not like Tammy and Victor, but now they are the only team that hasn't had nervous breakdowns, so I am starting to like them the best!Oh my Pedaler... you really made our day! :hearts: :jumpy: I gotta see the ending no matter what place I am in the world during that episode now! (sadly it's almost impossible now... :'( :'( :'()Okay, Mooyou. You got what you wanted. You friggin' happy?
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i am sure this will be the most brilliant, eye-opening, 1st reply ever...
but, the second i saw that photo, i thought the guy in right, with A hat on, was LUKE. And i think the A cap looks fake, pasted on... Maybe this picture is AFTER the race is done...but why would they be holding those papers and filming them....????
I know -- doesn't make sense...but i just think it looks like Luke, doctored.....and doesn't he have a gray fleece pull-over??
I have never set my clock camera and would have no idea if it is right? Or suppose that is an EST visitor?
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I'm confused now.
The race ended on Nov. 21 around 11 am ( http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg380845.html#msg380845 )
The photo was taken Nov. 21 at 5:41 pm
If the picture is post final mat then it really doesn't spoil anything. Its just a photo of various racers enjoying some down time after the race - waiting for a taxi or something. It doesn't tell us who the final 3 are at all.
Or am I missing something here?
Nov. 22
leg 12 return from Beijing to U.S. for Finish Line in Hawaii via Tokyo
PEK to NRT:
JL780 0825 1255
NH956 0830 1300
NW30 0900 1340
CA925 0925 1355
CA167 1325 1800
NH906 1445 1915
JL782 1520 1950
CA421 1640 2100
NRT to HNL
JO76 1845 0645+1
UA880 1945 0736+1
NW30 2000 0805 Note that this is a continuation of the ealier flight from PEK to NRT with 6 hour 20 minute layover
NW22 2055 0845+1
NH1052 2055 0915+1
JO74 2100 0900+1
JO72 2200 1000+1
Continuing on from Tokyo-Narita to Honolulu (NRT to HNL), there are 9 choices with departures between 645pm and 10pm. With the 6 hours 45 minute flying team and 5 hour time difference, these flights arrive HNL 0630 to 0950. The most logical choice to me would be UA880 NRT HNL 1925 0710+1. All these are same day due to crossing the International Date Line.
Finish Line on Maui, so teams will take a 36 or 37 minute flight Honolulu to Kahului or to Kapalua. There is at least one every hour from 5am to 9pm and several in some hours.
tasks
Finish Line
EP12: Beijing, China to Maui, Hawaii (USA)
Air Date: MAY 10
Film Date: NOV 22
Tasks:
[Route Info]: Fly to Maui, Hawaii (USA)
[Route Info]: Find Surfboard Fence
[Finish Line]: Kahili Golf Course (18th Green)
Evidence: Witness at Beijing airport spots Phil flying to Hawaii and “doublemint twins”, Maui confirmed as pitstop by CBS map
Possible Teams: Cara/Jamie, Margie/Luke, Tammy/Victor
Is there a disconnect somewhere? Both Puddin and mwoden show the end date as Nov 22. It makes sense to me that the racers would arrive in Maui a day before the end. The lady who took the photo was waiting for their rental car. I assume the racers were waiting for their transportation.
From Puddin :QuoteNov. 22
leg 12 return from Beijing to U.S. for Finish Line in Hawaii via Tokyo
PEK to NRT:
JL780 0825 1255
NH956 0830 1300
NW30 0900 1340
CA925 0925 1355
CA167 1325 1800
NH906 1445 1915
JL782 1520 1950
CA421 1640 2100
NRT to HNL
JO76 1845 0645+1
UA880 1945 0736+1
NW30 2000 0805 Note that this is a continuation of the ealier flight from PEK to NRT with 6 hour 20 minute layover
NW22 2055 0845+1
NH1052 2055 0915+1
JO74 2100 0900+1
JO72 2200 1000+1
Continuing on from Tokyo-Narita to Honolulu (NRT to HNL), there are 9 choices with departures between 645pm and 10pm. With the 6 hours 45 minute flying team and 5 hour time difference, these flights arrive HNL 0630 to 0950. The most logical choice to me would be UA880 NRT HNL 1925 0710+1. All these are same day due to crossing the International Date Line.
Finish Line on Maui, so teams will take a 36 or 37 minute flight Honolulu to Kahului or to Kapalua. There is at least one every hour from 5am to 9pm and several in some hours.
tasks
Finish Line
From mwodenQuoteEP12: Beijing, China to Maui, Hawaii (USA)
Air Date: MAY 10
Film Date: NOV 22
Tasks:
[Route Info]: Fly to Maui, Hawaii (USA)
[Route Info]: Find Surfboard Fence
[Finish Line]: Kahili Golf Course (18th Green)
Evidence: Witness at Beijing airport spots Phil flying to Hawaii and “doublemint twins”, Maui confirmed as pitstop by CBS map
Possible Teams: Cara/Jamie, Margie/Luke, Tammy/Victor
Is there a disconnect somewhere? Both Puddin and mwoden show the end date as Nov 22. It makes sense to me that the racers would arrive in Maui a day before the end. The lady who took the photo was waiting for their rental car. I assume the racers were waiting for their transportation.
From Puddin :QuoteNov. 22
leg 12 return from Beijing to U.S. for Finish Line in Hawaii via Tokyo
PEK to NRT:
JL780 0825 1255
NH956 0830 1300
NW30 0900 1340
CA925 0925 1355
CA167 1325 1800
NH906 1445 1915
JL782 1520 1950
CA421 1640 2100
NRT to HNL
JO76 1845 0645+1
UA880 1945 0736+1
NW30 2000 0805 Note that this is a continuation of the ealier flight from PEK to NRT with 6 hour 20 minute layover
NW22 2055 0845+1
NH1052 2055 0915+1
JO74 2100 0900+1
JO72 2200 1000+1
Continuing on from Tokyo-Narita to Honolulu (NRT to HNL), there are 9 choices with departures between 645pm and 10pm. With the 6 hours 45 minute flying team and 5 hour time difference, these flights arrive HNL 0630 to 0950. The most logical choice to me would be UA880 NRT HNL 1925 0710+1. All these are same day due to crossing the International Date Line.
Finish Line on Maui, so teams will take a 36 or 37 minute flight Honolulu to Kahului or to Kapalua. There is at least one every hour from 5am to 9pm and several in some hours.
tasks
Finish Line
From mwodenQuoteEP12: Beijing, China to Maui, Hawaii (USA)
Air Date: MAY 10
Film Date: NOV 22
Tasks:
[Route Info]: Fly to Maui, Hawaii (USA)
[Route Info]: Find Surfboard Fence
[Finish Line]: Kahili Golf Course (18th Green)
Evidence: Witness at Beijing airport spots Phil flying to Hawaii and “doublemint twins”, Maui confirmed as pitstop by CBS map
Possible Teams: Cara/Jamie, Margie/Luke, Tammy/Victor
Okay what if I just flat out tell you that no one in that photo is a part of the final 3?the photo data is DateTimeOriginal : 2008:11:21 17:41:15
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I'm confused now.
The race ended on Nov. 21 around 11 am ( http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg380845.html#msg380845 )
The photo was taken Nov. 21 at 5:41 pm
If the picture is post final mat then it really doesn't spoil anything. Its just a photo of various racers enjoying some down time after the race - waiting for a taxi or something. It doesn't tell us who the final 3 are at all.
Or am I missing something here?
We know the race ended on the 21st
Okay what if I just flat out tell you that no one in that photo is a part of the final 3?But. But. But... Nevermind....
Notice that none of the decoys has a race fanny pack. :tup:
And.. Christie & Jodi didn't have their stroll bags with them.Oh, they ditched them long ago. Right before they left Siberia.
QuoteWe know the race ended on the 21st
Puddin, if that's true and the date on the camera is correct, then possibly it's just a decoy photo and not a spoiler one. A speculative time line could be pit stop at 11 am., film for an hour or two, then go to the airport, do some decoy stuff at the airport, and then fly to Honolulu for the night. I don't think the racers would fly home that same day.
Seeing all of the Amazing Race paraphernalia out in the open if they were arriving seems kind of strange. Why call attention when it's not needed?
My guess is that few teams hung around Hawaii after being away from home well over 3 weeks. They would preferentially have flown out on the afternoon or evening of Nov. 21, depending on where they were going.
quote from graytex: "And who are they looking back toward? It looks like Jodi & the bros are looking back at the guy in the "A" ball cap. Wonder if he's with them."
i am sure this will be the most brilliant, eye-opening, 1st reply ever...
but, the second i saw that photo, i thought the guy in right, with A hat on, was LUKE. And i think the A cap looks fake, pasted on... Maybe this picture is AFTER the race is done...but why would they be holding those papers and filming them....????
I know -- doesn't make sense...but i just think it looks like Luke, doctored.....and doesn't he have a gray fleece pull-over??
While we work on a true time for this photo......where was this photo actually taken, geographicly, that is. Here are some things to take note of in the pic. There is a car, parked, over Mike White's right shoulder. The road sign indicates a two lane road. There is a very brisk wind blowing those palm trees. Trade winds are from the E/NE. How many rows of cars are there in the parking lot? There are cross walk signs, just beyond the racers.
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Was it taken here, at Airport 1????
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Or was it taken here, at Airport 2???? The yellow pin is misplaced. It should be between the two cross walks.
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Is it possible the racers were arriving then also, and the finish was actually a day later?
I don't see any backpack straps and where would the pull-along suitcase come from.
Christie changed out of her pretty purple dress between the Koh Samui airport and the Kahului photo. Mike (the son) changed his shirt, but has kept his cargo pants. I'm thinking this means the teams didn't just arrive. It'd be hard to coordinate Michael/Mark and LaKisha/Jennifer to join the Elimination Station teams, unless they held everyone at Honolulu (where there isn't, presumably, a production base).
Is it possible the racers were arriving then also, and the finish was actually a day later?
No, sorry.
But :welcome: to RFF, glad to have you!
If it helps us figure out anything about the race...
Christie changed out of her pretty purple dress between the Koh Samui airport and the Kahului photo. Mike (the son) changed his shirt, but has kept his cargo pants. I'm thinking this means the teams didn't just arrive. It'd be hard to coordinate Michael/Mark and LaKisha/Jennifer to join the Elimination Station teams, unless they held everyone at Honolulu (where there isn't, presumably, a production base).
The earliest that ES teams could have arrived in Hawaii is on the morning of the 20th, and it is highly unlikely they waited until the 21st to arrive (also, they'd have been seen in Tokyo too). The earliest that Kisha/Jen could have arrived is on the morning of the 21st, together with the Final 3. Would they have had enough time to stage a decoy before the race finished?
My guess is they ran decoy after the Finish Line.
I don't see any backpack straps and where would the pull-along suitcase come from.
If you look at the last elimination station, all the teams were packing up their luggage. Some had the pull along suitcases and others had large duffle bags. Last race, TAR13, when Bill and Mark got to the elimination station in Mexico, their pull along suitcases were waiting for them in their room at the foot of their beds.
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I don't see any backpack straps and where would the pull-along suitcase come from.
If you look at the last elimination station, all the teams were packing up their luggage. Some had the pull along suitcases and others had large duffle bags. Last race, TAR13, when Bill and Mark got to the elimination station in Mexico, their pull along suitcases were waiting for them in their room at the foot of their beds.
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Well, the same thoughts I have had. Maybe that is where those numbered tags come in. When team #6 is eliminated, the the luggage with #6 tags are pulled out of the pile and sent with the respective team to ES. Personally, I don't think those two guys have anything to do with the race. But I do like the idea of after finish line decoying by the group. They could have had the other 4 eliminated teams somewhere else doing the same thing.
That will be a good question for TARcon. Do the teams have access to their "associated luggage" while still in the race?
I assumed that any additional luggage and such, not designated as backpack / race items, would only appear in your hotel room during the rest breaks, if or as allowed. The racer would NOT be respsonsible for retrieving them, nor transporting them. So why would a racer have regular luggage at that point? If anyone else had suitcases or such, I would agree.
I took a group bus tour several years ago. When I checked in at the tour, I was given luggage ID tags for each piece of non-hand carry items. These tags were placed on the luggage. Every morning that we traveled, you placed your labeled lugguage outside your hotel room, dropped your key off at the hotel desk, and went to breakfast with your hand-carried items. While the group ate, the luggage was retrieved and place on the bus. Once everyone ate we started touring. As long as you and your lugguage were OUT of your room by the appointed time, you never had to worry about your luggage. I basically assumed that any allowed additional personal luggage would be treated the same by race support staff - whether you got to see it during rest breaks or not at all until you were eliminated.
My guess is that this group of racers came straight from the finish line, possibly while the final 3 were conducting their post race interviews.
I gotta be honest...win or lose (and frankly at this point the edit and other sources point to an obvious V/T win here, which is cool)No, it's not. Because the key word is "obvious." I hate "obvious."
I gotta be honest...win or lose (and frankly at this point the edit and other sources point to an obvious V/T win here, which is cool)No, it's not. Because the key word is "obvious." I hate "obvious."
I gotta be honest...win or lose (and frankly at this point the edit and other sources point to an obvious V/T win here, which is cool)No, it's not. Because the key word is "obvious." I hate "obvious."
I think there is no such think as an "obvious" edit. If not TK and Rachel would not have won. So what's the big deal with "obvious" and hating it, when there's no such thing as an "obvious" edit on TAR? :res:
Got my copy of the latest Entertainment Weekly today. Their 'tv picks for the week of May 4-10' section has a big mention and picture of Margie and Luke in the recommendations for the May 10 episode, and EW has had those kind of light spoilers before this season in that section (ie. the magazine showing showing Mel and Mike would make it to Russia #2 arrived at my house before Russia #1 aired)The problem being Kisha and Jen are not in the final 3.
In their Must list section earlier in the issue, Luke, Margie, Jamie, and, oddly enough, Kisha and Jen get mentioned as part of Must #4 for the week. (Race season finale) Tammy and Victor are mentioned in neither blurb. So Margie and Luke are almost certainly through to the finale, and I'd say that if Must #4 is referring to the actual finale episode (and they seem to be getting earlier screeners this year) then the picture upthread might indeed be a shot filmed after the finish.
I gotta be honest...win or lose (and frankly at this point the edit and other sources point to an obvious V/T win here, which is cool), but the best thing about C/J in the Final 3?!...*FINALLY* getting to see Jaime and Cara in glorious HD on the Early Show Monday morning!! ;D
Even if the segment will only last 4 minutes and no one can really look their best getting up before 6:00 am.
I know some of u will say where is the soundman if Keisha & Jen are in the final 3. If u look closely to the cameraman, there's already a microphone on the cam and the sound man is needed when teams are making audible dialouges.
I think the sound man could be in front of the closest cameraman. Check the cameraman's legs. There you can see an ankle and foot for a male's right leg and then a smidgen of the left leg by the knee of the closest cameraman.
The Shanghai spoiler. (http://www.icshanghai.com/shanghairush/about.shtml)
That is all.
The Shanghai spoiler. (http://www.icshanghai.com/shanghairush/about.shtml)
That is all.