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Title: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: puddin on October 24, 2009, 10:44:17 PM
11/08 Amazing Race 15 - This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life (Sweden)
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Stockholm, Sweden 8/1
Blog by sparkibaken.se (http://sparkibaken.se/hemma-igen/) The first team in front the wide counter in order to try few tickets to the air transport. After a long air trip, I am now home again. The air trip did not become however entire ointressant. In Amsterdam so came it first forward a guy and girl and called out about it there some that wanted to transfer its tickets to them then they were with in a TV programme and needed come to Stockholm fastest possible. No bitten however, but they succeeded nevertheless to come with on their stand village tickets. Apart from the team with the pair (that also are visible on the picture) had time to three other teams with product in photographer and sound guy with. A team asked me about I where from Stockholm, and when I said that I where it became I filmed when I portrayed the fastest road to take themselves from Arlanda to green grove. I might also type on a paper that I the my approved possible participation. I asked what the where pursues programmes, and I did not get the name on it, but they come in all cases from USA. Reminded little about Amazing race thought I. It was in all fall comfortabley with little performance after it 10-timmars the long first flight.
Terese @ sparkibaken.se kindly repiles (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,18840.msg438010.html#msg438010) The teams I saw was the boy and the girl (that are in the first picture), a african american team with two guys with Harlem Globetrotter-jackets, a team with a guy with pink(?) hair and then the last team with two black haired guys (I think one or two of them had glasses). It was the last couple who asked me about the fastest way to Gröna Lund and they wondered what was the highest point there.
For those unfamiliar with the reference Arlanda is the name of the Stockholm International Airport (hence airport code ARN) and Grona Land is an amusement park in Stockholm. Here is a description of a visit there, including a picture desribed by Richard Bannister:
Grona Land Visit (http://www.bannister.org/coasters/trips/2007/0716.htm)
A little insider info for all TAR fans: Season 15 will buy you a visit to everyone's favorite Stockholm! Detailed fixed Gröna Lund. Saw it with my own eyes
Just passing thru :lol:
update..
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Russia bastard
It was very hush hush over the whole. The few people who were involved were forced to sign confidentiality papers (I am not one of those, however, so I can babble freely ). ****ing fast to cover up the envelope box with black refuse sacks, they were also, as soon as the participants were not in the vicinity.
What I understood the whole situation as it was a "Detour" (only a few were run), the task was to go tilt. A strange detail is that there is still something on the roof at Jetline: an arrow in the TAR colors that point in the direction of the Jet Rock. What it used to, I know not ...
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Quote: Originally Posted bySnotric You stole clue?
No, even if it scratched in the fingers. Before the park had opened the box was relatively unguarded with only a few camera people with their backs on it, but I dared not look into the
A Grona Lund sighting (http://www.bukefalos.com/f/showthread.php?p=12635138); Peach agrees with me that it refers to a 1 p.m. sighting of two men with backpacks.
I heard from someone that was a witness @ Grona Lund .. she/he states the Globe Trotters were among the first to arrive and Brian & Ericka among the last. I know it doesn't help much though.
eta: she/he wrote "I think Brian/ericka gets eliminated but i might be wrong."
Not exactly sure what she/he witnessed though
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They took a boat from Stockholm sweden to Estonia.I live in Stockholm and spotted few of the teams few days ago it was exciting but won't tell about them else than that their next destination was Estonia.
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Sweden it is. But it's one of the later legs. It's gonna be a good leg since i happen to know what they are doing there There is this kind of park but didn't think this park was gonna be in the race but yah.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: puddin on October 24, 2009, 10:44:24 PM
Zapit
The Amazing Race 15: This Is the Worst Thing I've Ever Done in My Life One team encounters a speed bump while racing through Stockholm; a team returns to the site of a roadblock. ------------------------
CBS Sunday, Nov. 8 THE AMAZING RACE (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) —While racing through Stockholm, one unlucky team faces a speed bump and, for the first time in the series' history, teams return to the site of an infamous roadblock. Phil Keoghan hosts
Revised: ONE TEAM STRUGGLES WITH COOPERATION AT AN EXPLOSIVE DETOUR AND THE RACERS RETURN TO ONE OF THE MOST INFAMOUS ROADBLOCKS IN SERIES' HISTORY, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, NOV. 8 ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK
"This is the Worst Thing I've Ever Done in My Life (Sweden)" — The lack of cooperation hinders one teams efforts at an explosive Detour, and during the series' first ever "Switchback," Teams return to one of the most infamous Roadblocks in the history of the show, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, Nov. 8 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Phil Keoghan is the host.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Hooky on October 25, 2009, 12:24:47 AM
What could be the worst thing someone has ever done in their life? I'm feeling a hay bales vibe.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: theschnauzers on October 25, 2009, 12:38:23 AM
What could be the worst thing someone has ever done in their life? I'm feeling a hay bales vibe.
Exactly what I was thinking. And now, is it possible that the quote was recycled from the first time?
Maybe. And this airs here on my birthday. I better not get what I don't want to happen. :groan:
You have the same birthday as me!
But if this is the Switchback and it is the hay bales, I still don't think it's going to be a big unlucky incident for one team. More likely they will just do it and move on. Just throwing that out there.
And just so you know, I doubt that the quote comes from Season 6, if that's what you meant. In aired footage nobody ever said that exact quote, to the best of my remembrance.
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Post by: theschnauzers on October 25, 2009, 12:30:01 PM
There's also the possibility that BVM would pull out unaired TAR 6 footage to use for the black and white flashback and possibly that quote. If they're going to do this, they might as well ramp up the suspense and prolouge as much as possible.
I might have to pull out my copy of that episode and check during this coming week. (Not today, it's my little schnauzer's seventh birthday and I need to go do something with her; I keep getting a paw on my leg.)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Hooky on October 25, 2009, 05:28:17 PM
There's also the possibility that BVM would pull out unaired TAR 6 footage to use for the black and white flashback and possibly that quote. If they're going to do this, they might as well ramp up the suspense and prolouge as much as possible.
That could be a possibility as well, since there was not much aired complaining from Lena & Kristy.
Or perhaps another team said that quote? ???
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Zack. on October 26, 2009, 01:31:34 PM
IIRC, there was something in the Tallinn sightings about Brian/Ericka being far behind. Maybe they get bad luck at the haybales and end up leaving last, a la Adam/Rebecca every leg?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: theschnauzers on October 27, 2009, 02:46:06 PM
CBS has just issued a press release bundle that includes a press release on the highlights of the November sweeps month (link) (http://www.cbspressexpress.com/div.php/bundles)to the CBS Press Express website (click on press bundles link and look under October 27 to download the Word document.):
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Sunday, Nov. 8 THE AMAZING RACE (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) —While racing through Stockholm, one unlucky team faces a speed bump and, for the first time in the series' history, teams return to the site of an infamous roadblock. Phil Keoghan hosts.
So we have confirmation of the Switchback task and an NEL for the leg in The Netherlands.
There's also this for the Estonia leg, which a mod can move when there's a thread for it:
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Sunday, Nov. 15 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) THE AMAZING RACE —Teams travel to Estonia and decipher a message in an ancient brotherhood lair and then slog through the bogs to play a wild muddy game of volleyball. Phil Keoghan hosts.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 27, 2009, 05:08:36 PM
The haybales is in my mind the perfect RB to revisit, difficult but doable. Can't wait to see it again, and oh please TPTB, bring back LENA as the greeter!! :jumpy:
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Post by: Chateau d If on October 27, 2009, 06:29:02 PM
And they should have her hide the clues in the hay bales too !
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: redskevin88 on October 28, 2009, 07:21:40 PM
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: kwando1313 on November 01, 2009, 08:00:32 PM
Yeah... OK. Next week on the Amazing Race. Teams have a blast in Stockholm (cue explosion) and the Switchback Roadblock. And there's a Travelocity roaming gnome.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: puddin on November 01, 2009, 08:06:17 PM
gnomes
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: autowil on November 01, 2009, 08:12:48 PM
The Title quote mean the Haypales Task alright!! :funny: :funny: :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: puddin on November 01, 2009, 08:15:01 PM
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Dånooky on November 01, 2009, 08:20:17 PM
If I remember correctly...there was a Yield before the Haybale task...could it be that there will be a Switchback near and the other team mate will be forced to do the roadblock?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: topaz on November 01, 2009, 08:22:40 PM
Do we know for sure that Hollnd is a NEL? There's nothing in that quote that suggests it to me.
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While racing through Stockholm, one unlucky team faces a speed bump
Unless its an actual speedbump in the road that Maria runs over going too fast and damages her vehicle... :neener:
OK, since the Netherlands leg is a NEL but the problem is both Maria and Tiffany failed to attempt on both detour tasks, is there a time penalty for them after that?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: puddin on November 01, 2009, 08:24:25 PM
Topaz, Maria and Tiffany are not coming back, they quit :waves:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: autowil on November 01, 2009, 08:25:15 PM
Is this the same place it occured in season 6?? Or a new place??
Think they go somewhere get the gnome and do the RB..
Just realise the explosives, they are holding the gnome.. Hmmm.. So Detour first or RB??
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: puddin on November 01, 2009, 08:31:56 PM
They also go to Gröna Lund for a task, the first task as they asked the witness at the airport in Amsterdam for directions ..read the first post please.
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Post by: colav10 on November 01, 2009, 08:32:05 PM
Finally figured out how to embed the video. Enjoy!
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Post by: NoluckBoston on November 01, 2009, 08:32:42 PM
Looks like the Farmers are in the back ground with Brian. Same grey top and red shorts
They also go to Gröna Lund for a task, the first task as they asked the witness at the airport in Amsterdam for directions ..read the first post please.
Ooooo thanks puddin.. i din read the whole thread.. Sorry..
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: mswood on November 01, 2009, 08:35:36 PM
I am really curious if Dan is telling Sam additional clue info, or if he just remembers the episode. Because if its off memory good for Dan awesome for being a terrible brother.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: mswood on November 01, 2009, 08:37:37 PM
Maybe the have to unroll the hay and find Lena.
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Post by: Dånooky on November 01, 2009, 08:37:51 PM
I am really curious if Dan is telling Sam additional clue info, or if he just remembers the episode. Because if its off memory good for Dan awesome for being a terrible brother.
maybe each leg they go for a different race archetype, dubai 2 they were alpha male, netherlands they were the token gay team, and in sweden they'll be the psycho siblings
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: NoluckBoston on November 01, 2009, 08:38:18 PM
From the Screen Grabs you can tell Sam and Dan must make it to the Hay first. As none are unrolled yet.
But when i see this picture of Meghan it looks like Sam is still in the back ground.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: puddin on November 01, 2009, 08:43:42 PM
My first thought was that is Sam in the background as well :tup:
Anyway this leg has to be the NEL! WE have the final 5 racing thru Tallinn the next leg. And for some reason my witness, not sure what she witnessed .. she does not want to be spoiled :lol: , thinks Brian and Ericka were last.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Dånooky on November 01, 2009, 08:45:40 PM
My first thought was that is Sam in the background as well :tup:
Anyway this leg has to be the NEL! WE have the final 5 racing thru Tallinn the next leg. And for some reason my witness, not sure what she witnessed .. she does not want to be spoiled :lol: , thinks Brian and Ericka were last.
That...or is there a chance of it being a TBC?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: puddin on November 01, 2009, 08:48:50 PM
My first thought was that is Sam in the background as well :tup:
Anyway this leg has to be the NEL! WE have the final 5 racing thru Tallinn the next leg. And for some reason my witness, not sure what she witnessed .. she does not want to be spoiled :lol: , thinks Brian and Ericka were last.
That...or is there a chance of it being a TBC?
TBC and take a leisurely ferry ride to Tallinn? I think Prague might be the TBC but thats off topic.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Dånooky on November 01, 2009, 08:50:36 PM
My first thought was that is Sam in the background as well :tup:
Anyway this leg has to be the NEL! WE have the final 5 racing thru Tallinn the next leg. And for some reason my witness, not sure what she witnessed .. she does not want to be spoiled :lol: , thinks Brian and Ericka were last.
That...or is there a chance of it being a TBC?
TBC and take a leisurely ferry ride to Tallinn? I think Prague might be the TBC but thats off topic.
I mean, it would make sense since they could easily use the ferry ride to rest
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: kwando1313 on November 01, 2009, 08:51:22 PM
Yup, there was a yield (that wasn't used).
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Post by: mswood on November 01, 2009, 08:52:10 PM
My first thought was that is Sam in the background as well :tup:
Anyway this leg has to be the NEL! WE have the final 5 racing thru Tallinn the next leg. And for some reason my witness, not sure what she witnessed .. she does not want to be spoiled :lol: , thinks Brian and Ericka were last.
That...or is there a chance of it being a TBC?
TBC and take a leisurely ferry ride to Tallinn? I think Prague might be the TBC but thats off topic.
Well all but one TBC leg (Season 14's) featured long equalizer to attempt to put the teams on equal footing again. So it is completely possible.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Dånooky on November 01, 2009, 08:53:20 PM
My first thought was that is Sam in the background as well :tup:
Anyway this leg has to be the NEL! WE have the final 5 racing thru Tallinn the next leg. And for some reason my witness, not sure what she witnessed .. she does not want to be spoiled :lol: , thinks Brian and Ericka were last.
That...or is there a chance of it being a TBC?
TBC and take a leisurely ferry ride to Tallinn? I think Prague might be the TBC but thats off topic.
Well all but one TBC leg (Season 14's) featured long equalizer to attempt to put the teams on equal footing again. So it is completely possible.
actually, according to an interview with one of the teams, they were artificially bunched (stopped by production)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 01, 2009, 08:59:01 PM
actually, according to an interview with one of the teams, they were artificially bunched (stopped by production)
What are you talking about? What interview? What bunching? ???
I remember someone (I think Luke) mentioning they had an HoO bunch at the Beihai Mall in Beijing 2.
Sam/Dan and FTBE are together at the explosives, while Gary/Matt and Brian/Ericka and together at the explosives. Meghan/Cheyne are...doing the other Detour choice I think, based on how they're clean compared to Gary.
Sam/Dan and Meghan/Chyene are together at the RB (at least; there are a lot of opened hay bales when they're searching).
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 01, 2009, 09:24:20 PM
Judging from the Red Barn in the photo below and the Red Barn in the Season 6 task, they are both the same place which rocks :lol:
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Post by: Zack. on November 01, 2009, 09:29:30 PM
That looks like Brian (minus yellow overshirt) to the left of Sam, no?
It's either him or a boom mic operator, and I don't think they would need to be crouching.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: NoluckBoston on November 01, 2009, 09:46:09 PM
actually, according to an interview with one of the teams, they were artificially bunched (stopped by production)
What are you talking about? What interview? What bunching? ???
I remember someone (I think Luke) mentioning they had an HoO bunch at the Beihai Mall in Beijing 2.
I knew I wasn't crazy! I'm desperately trying to find my source. I remember they were complaining they had to wait and KJ caught up co it probably was JC or ML
edit: officially my 4000th post
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Post by: Hooky on November 01, 2009, 11:36:43 PM
This brings back so much nostalgia? The very same post with the cluebox in front of it had the Yield attached! It is so weird to actually see the teams of this season in the exact place that Season 6 teams visited. Not much has changed, although it looks a little clearer on camera! :lol:
I hope it's the same ratio, 270 bales to 20 clues.
This preview also shows just how wimpy and whiny our teams are this season. All are complaining about how difficult the task is, whereas most of the Season 6 teams just came and killed it.
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Post by: Coutzy on November 01, 2009, 11:39:14 PM
This brings back so much nostalgia? The very same post with the cluebox in front of it had the Yield attached! It is so weird to actually see the teams of this season in the exact place that Season 6 teams visited. Not much has changed, although it looks a little clearer on camera! :lol:
I hope it's the same ratio, 270 bales to 20 clues.
This preview also shows just how wimpy and whiny our teams are this season. All are complaining about how difficult the task is, whereas most of the Season 6 teams just came and killed it.
Even after Sam/Dan (I don't know one from the other) makes a reference to 'one racer (being) here for 8 hours' and they STILL complain.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Jobby on November 01, 2009, 11:57:53 PM
Eh, anyone is thinking in tune with me?
Why the hell did Meghan choose to do it? :groan:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: chill_sd on November 02, 2009, 12:03:54 AM
I am really curious if Dan is telling Sam additional clue info, or if he just remembers the episode. Because if its off memory good for Dan awesome for being a terrible brother.
maybe each leg they go for a different race archetype, dubai 2 they were alpha male, netherlands they were the token gay team, and in sweden they'll be the psycho siblings
Weren't Lena & Kristy sisters? :funny:
And for the explosives: where in Sweden could they possibly do it? And what does it have to do with friggin' Sweden? The invention of the dynamite? :P
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: TARAsia Fan on November 02, 2009, 12:31:20 AM
Yup, Lena & Kristy were and probably still are sisters. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Moo on November 02, 2009, 12:54:27 AM
I think Meghan says the title quote... Uhoh... She's the only woman doing the task this time...
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Moo on November 02, 2009, 01:01:26 AM
I think this could be a TBC,
BUT, as we all know... Phil told the teams, whoever crosses the finish line after TWELVE legs will win the 1 M Dollars... so chances are, we might have only 12 single legs this season too...
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: puddin on November 02, 2009, 01:36:20 AM
opps
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: apskip on November 02, 2009, 08:05:03 AM
I bet Maria's going to do the roadblock. Just like the female team before them, that will be their downfall. :'(
The strategy of Tiffany doing all the tough ROADBLOCKs is about to have its ugly consequences exposed. The RB balance count is after episode 7 Tiffany 5 Maria 2. That means it is almost certain that Maria will be doing the next ROADBLOCK whatever it is.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: apskip on November 02, 2009, 08:20:05 AM
Raymond, you are right on the money. Doubtless you have heard of the Nobel Prizes in selected fields. They are funded by a trust fund set up initially by Alfred Nobel, the inventor of dynamite, patented in 1867 and still a huge seller worldwide. Alfred Nobel was Swedish and his first factory was in Sweden. I have no doubt that the World Race Productions are honoring him with a general task or DETOUR involving dynamite. Actually, I think that will make a poor task because there is lengthy safety instructions needed, there will be to no opportunity for little place changes among the teams. So what if there is a big bang that is visually appealing.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Coutzy on November 02, 2009, 08:21:22 AM
I bet Maria's going to do the roadblock. Just like the female team before them, that will be their downfall. :'(
The strategy of Tiffany doing all the tough ROADBLOCKs is about to have its ugly consequences exposed. The RB balance count is after episode 7 Tiffany 5 Maria 2. That means it is almost certain that Maria will be doing the next ROADBLOCK whatever it is.
Was I the only person that watched yesterday's episode? Tiffany and Maria are gone folks.
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Post by: Snooky on November 02, 2009, 08:21:50 AM
Not the haybales again! :groan:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Snooky on November 02, 2009, 08:22:51 AM
I bet Maria's going to do the roadblock. Just like the female team before them, that will be their downfall. :'(
The strategy of Tiffany doing all the tough ROADBLOCKs is about to have its ugly consequences exposed. The RB balance count is after episode 7 Tiffany 5 Maria 2. That means it is almost certain that Maria will be doing the next ROADBLOCK whatever it is.
Was I the only person that watched yesterday's episode? Tiffany and Maria are gone folks.
I think that people we really confident it was a NEL...But I watched it! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: apskip on November 02, 2009, 08:28:13 AM
I beleive that all teams except Maria/Tiffany had completed their tasks. remember that they would have arrived in the Groningen area by about 9am. The obvious flight choice from Amsterdam to Stocklholm is nonstop flight:
KL8223 AMS ARN 0715 0915
Should there not be room on that for all 5 or 6 teams on Sunday morning August 2, here are some additional connecting flights to leave at essentially the same time and get there later:
AF8223 AMS CDG 0715 0840 connecting in Paris to CDG ARN KL2062 0940 1210
LH2689 AMS MUC 0715 0825 connecting in Munich to MUC ARN LH3002 1010 1215
KL1141 AMS OSL 0705 0900 connecting in Oslo to OSL ARN SK490 1200 1300
For those of you who join Peach and I as fans of the Bremen route, unfortunately we are out of luck on the flights to Stockholm. There is are no flight combinations out of Bremen to there that make any sense.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: apskip on November 02, 2009, 08:35:48 AM
Coutzy and Snooky,
You have to ask yourself why would the ending of episode 7 not be revealed. Would there be any drama if a team were doing poorly but eliminated at the beginning of telecast #8 (I feel only the part after the REVEAL can be considered episode 8)? No, there wouldn't. There has been ample evidence that episode 7 was a NEL. Would Phil have allowed a team to quit if by taking a DETOUR penalty (usually 24 hours) they will still be in it. That puts them a day behind the other teams, but it is conceivable although unlikely that bunching could get them back in it.
I don't think Phil eliminates them because if he were going to we would have seen that as the end of episode 7. I don't know how he gets them out of this mess, but I predict that WRP/Phil find a way. They can be very inventive.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Coutzy on November 02, 2009, 08:41:24 AM
As per Tiffany Michelle's Blog:
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1.THE QUITTING THING: Technically we didn’t “quit”, we took a penalty for not completing the Detour which happens to be a 24hr penalty (for an unfinished Detour)... mind you, that was AFTER over THREE HOURS of attempting both challenges. Obviously we knew that by giving up on the Detour and asking for the penalty we could VERY likely be eliminated, it was unlikely that we could withstand a 24hr penalty unless it was a non-elimination leg but “quitting the Race” was not what we did, technically we took the penalty (although they worded it differently when Phil came out to the field) and at the point that Brian & Ericka checked in we were then eliminated.
Also, wikipedia has them listed as eliminated (as much as we can trust that), and also has them down for calling the Elimination Station and informing teams of their elimination. (I can't verify this as ES is not available in Australia)
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Post by: apskip on November 02, 2009, 08:59:43 AM
Interesting information, Coutzy. There is two ways to read it:
1. When Brian and Ericka checked in for the pit stop in Vierhuizen Maria and Tiffany were eliminated, which does not seem possible since that had not stated a desire to take thet 24 hour penalty.
2. When Brian and ericka checked in for the pit stop at the end of episode 8 in Sweden Maria and Tiffany were eliminated. This is what I think happened. How can you have SpeedBump in Sweden if there is no teams that earned it?
We will see at the beginning of telecast 8.
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Post by: Zack. on November 02, 2009, 09:28:25 AM
I suspect that TPTB planned for it to be an NEL, but that with the super penalty, figured that the other teams would be able to finish the leg in Stockholm before M/T departed from Groningen and so decided to eliminate them outright (much like U/J in All-Stars).
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Post by: kwando1313 on November 02, 2009, 10:12:25 AM
1.THE QUITTING THING: Technically we didn’t “quit”, we took a penalty for not completing the Detour which happens to be a 24hr penalty (for an unfinished Detour)... mind you, that was AFTER over THREE HOURS of attempting both challenges. Obviously we knew that by giving up on the Detour and asking for the penalty we could VERY likely be eliminated, it was unlikely that we could withstand a 24hr penalty unless it was a non-elimination leg but “quitting the Race” was not what we did, technically we took the penalty (although they worded it differently when Phil came out to the field) and at the point that Brian & Ericka checked in we were then eliminated.
Also, wikipedia has them listed as eliminated (as much as we can trust that), and also has them down for calling the Elimination Station and informing teams of their elimination. (I can't verify this as ES is not available in Australia)
Yup. Just watched ES and they phoned in. But like what zackattack said, probably this was an NEL before and then they had to shift the NEL to this leg.
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Post by: DrRox on November 02, 2009, 10:24:17 AM
Maria/Tiffany are gone, kaput, TOAST!!!!!
They will not be reincarnated next week. They have already called into the Elimination Station.......Pooffffff......they are history!!!
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Post by: chill_sd on November 02, 2009, 10:39:20 AM
I believe we have confirmation that the speed bump (no CAPS) referred to in the press release is actually the new feature, the Switchback (Capital S).
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Post by: georgiapeach on November 02, 2009, 10:40:58 AM
I bet Maria's going to do the roadblock. Just like the female team before them, that will be their downfall. :'(
The strategy of Tiffany doing all the tough ROADBLOCKs is about to have its ugly consequences exposed. The RB balance count is after episode 7 Tiffany 5 Maria 2. That means it is almost certain that Maria will be doing the next ROADBLOCK whatever it is.
Or NOT. :duno:
Extensively discussed in the Ep 7 thread.
Yes, they were eliminated per Tiffany.
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Post by: misterblah on November 02, 2009, 10:47:31 AM
I just noticed tiffany and maria and kelly and christy from season 12 came in 2nd on their previous legs before being eliminated 6th and both are all-female teams. looks like we will have to wait next season if a all-female team finally wins the amazing race. it's been 15 seasons. :(
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Post by: Mandoli on November 02, 2009, 10:49:09 AM
remember that they would have arrived in the Groningen area by about 9am. The obvious flight choice from Amsterdam to Stocklholm is nonstop flight:
KL8223 AMS ARN 0715 0915
Should there not be room on that for all 5 or 6 teams on Sunday morning August 2, here are some additional connecting flights to leave at essentially the same time and get there later:
AF8223 AMS CDG 0715 0840 connecting in Paris to CDG ARN KL2062 0940 1210
LH2689 AMS MUC 0715 0825 connecting in Munich to MUC ARN LH3002 1010 1215
KL1141 AMS OSL 0705 0900 connecting in Oslo to OSL ARN SK490 1200 1300
We have a good bit of info to help with this already, apskip. We KNOW:
Netherlands was a 36 hour Pitstop.
Teams departed August 1, not 2.
We have a spoiler contact on a flight with some of the teams. Here: http://sparkibaken.se/hemma-igen/
And here: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,18840.msg438010.html#msg438010
Some teams were seen changing $$ in Arlanda airport at 9:08AM.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Caelestor on November 02, 2009, 01:21:46 PM
I think Netherlands was supposed to be an NEL, but since the poker girls quiet, Stockholm will be the NEL. I wonder what's going to happen to the speedbump in Sweden, and if there's a speedbump in Tallinn.
This is probably obvious, but I'm going to say we see teams taking a train from Groningen Central to Schipol Station.
Is the roadblock at the same place as last time? This is going to be entertaining if there are still 20 clues in 270 bales, considering there were about 9 teams last time doing the task. :jam:
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Post by: Red_Head_RacerTAR21 on November 02, 2009, 01:30:48 PM
Hey all, long time lurker. I was wondering if there is any confirmation that the Switchback is something similar to a U-Turn (one team has to go back to the Roadblock and have the other person complete it). Or is the Switchback itself the fact that the haybale task is being revisited?
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Post by: TARAsia Fan on November 02, 2009, 01:35:23 PM
Hey all, long time lurker. I was wondering if there is any confirmation that the Switchback is something similar to a U-Turn (one team has to go back to the Roadblock and have the other person complete it). Or is the Switchback itself the fact that the haybale task is being revisited?
It was established in the promo for last night which you can see right here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21004.msg489895.html#msg489895).
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Post by: Red_Head_RacerTAR21 on November 02, 2009, 01:42:16 PM
Hey all, long time lurker. I was wondering if there is any confirmation that the Switchback is something similar to a U-Turn (one team has to go back to the Roadblock and have the other person complete it). Or is the Switchback itself the fact that the haybale task is being revisited?
It was established in the promo for last night which you can see right here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21004.msg489895.html#msg489895).
I realize the haybale task is the Switchback, however what I'm wondering is if the Switchback just the fact that they are going back to the TAR6 task or is it that after the haybale task, teams encounter the Switchback, where one team is sent back to the haybales.
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Post by: Caelestor on November 02, 2009, 02:27:21 PM
The switchback is the haybale task. Probably after they do the detour, they say do this roadblock! (which just happens to be an infamous one done a few seasons prior...)
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Post by: theschnauzers on November 02, 2009, 02:36:25 PM
From what Bertram said before this season began to air, the Switchback is a repeat of the original roadblock at the original location.
Which is exactly what the promo and press releases have described. There has been nothing to suggest that there is any differences from the original haybale roadblock task in TAR 6. I would think that those teams that were familiar with TAR 6 are going to be freaked out enough just knowing this will be the exact same task, and TPTB won't need to amplify it in any form.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Caelestor on November 02, 2009, 02:46:18 PM
Have a taste of what's coming up next episode. Gives you chills doesn't it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ZS6ZPM0Nk
This is classic TAR. Phil introduces the roadblock so dramatically, and the music/editing was perfect for that scene. Poor Lena and Kristy :'(
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Post by: Dånooky on November 02, 2009, 02:53:15 PM
From what Bertram said before this season began to air, the Switchback is a repeat of the original roadblock at the original location.
Which is exactly what the promo and press releases have described. There has been nothing to suggest that there is any differences from the original haybale roadblock task in TAR 6. I would think that those teams that were familiar with TAR 6 are going to be freaked out enough just knowing this will be the exact same task, and TPTB won't need to amplify it in any form.
Hmm...maybe "Switchback" will just be a tag for route markers consisting of a past task revisited. Maybe this time is a Roadblock-Switchback and probably, next season there will be one Detour-Switchback or the likes...
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Post by: georgiapeach on November 02, 2009, 04:44:22 PM
You know, I had forgotten there was a Yield with this RB then.
If they are re-creating the task exactly....then do we also have a YIELD??
Lena was amazing....CBS is missing a classic moment if they don't have them back as the Greeters.
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Post by: Hooky on November 02, 2009, 06:15:53 PM
Have a taste of what's coming up next episode. Gives you chills doesn't it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ZS6ZPM0Nk
This is classic TAR. Phil introduces the roadblock so dramatically, and the music/editing was perfect for that scene. Poor Lena and Kristy :'(
Just about every Roadblock was introduced that way in Season 6. But I agree, the music back then was WAAAY better than it is now. Since season 13, the music they play at the Finish Line when the winning team is told by Phil that they've won has just been the same music as when a team wins a leg. Not monumental like the music played when BJ & Tyler or Uchenna & Joyce won. Bring back that score please!
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Post by: Hooky on November 02, 2009, 06:17:48 PM
You know, I had forgotten there was a Yield with this RB then.
If they are re-creating the task exactly....then do we also have a YIELD??
Lena was amazing....CBS is missing a classic moment if they don't have them back as the Greeters.
I doubt there will be a Yield, but there could always be a U-turn. But wouldn't it be on the same signpost as the Yield in Season 6? Yet in the preview I didn't see a Yield or a U-turn on that signpost.
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Post by: River on November 02, 2009, 06:22:21 PM
You know, I had forgotten there was a Yield with this RB then.
If they are re-creating the task exactly....then do we also have a YIELD??
Lena was amazing....CBS is missing a classic moment if they don't have them back as the Greeters.
I doubt there will be a Yield, but there could always be a U-turn. But wouldn't it be on the same signpost as the Yield in Season 6? Yet in the preview I didn't see a Yield or a U-turn on that signpost.
I think there may be a U-turn this leg, but it may not be there. Also, I think the only point of this switchback is because the TAR crew is getting lazier...and they don't want to do any more searching for new tasks. :(
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Post by: Hooky on November 02, 2009, 06:29:09 PM
You know, I had forgotten there was a Yield with this RB then.
If they are re-creating the task exactly....then do we also have a YIELD??
Lena was amazing....CBS is missing a classic moment if they don't have them back as the Greeters.
I doubt there will be a Yield, but there could always be a U-turn. But wouldn't it be on the same signpost as the Yield in Season 6? Yet in the preview I didn't see a Yield or a U-turn on that signpost.
I think there may be a U-turn this leg, but it may not be there. Also, I think the only point of this switchback is because the TAR crew is getting lazier...and they don't want to do any more searching for new tasks. :(
Well I was just referring to that specific location, but yes, of course there could always be a U-turn somewhere else on this leg, but if there were to be a Yield (I don't believe there will be), it would be at the Switchback as part of the nostalgic aspect. But that Yield was unused, so it probably doesn't count as a nostalgic feature of the task.
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Post by: graytex on November 02, 2009, 10:13:41 PM
I would guess the explosives task has to do with Alfred Nobel, inventor of TNT.
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Post by: georgiapeach on November 02, 2009, 10:22:32 PM
Well, I think a Yield and a NEL are pointless, burt we have seen that before...so?
:duno: It just made me think when I saw the video again.
Wasn't Lena awesome? That still stands as a classic moment of bringing out the best in ordinary people...what makes TAR magical to me.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: ImANewUser on November 03, 2009, 12:08:50 AM
Well, I think a Yield and a NEL are pointless, burt we have seen that before...so?
:duno: It just made me think when I saw the video again.
Wasn't Lena awesome? That still stands as a classic moment of bringing out the best in ordinary people...what makes TAR magical to me.
I had trouble with getting through that leg because I knew that one of Lena/Kristy, Don/MJ & Lori/Bolo were eliminated by the end of it, and I loved all 3. :funny:
In relation to what I quipped and apskip & graytex said, maybe the explosives are part of a War/Peace Detour honoring Alfred Nobel? (dynamite task/Nobel Peace prize task) Just a thought.
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Post by: walkingpneumonia on November 03, 2009, 08:53:04 AM
In relation to what I quipped and apskip & graytex said, maybe the explosives are part of a War/Peace Detour honoring Alfred Nobel? (dynamite task/Nobel Peace prize task) Just a thought.
I agree with this being related to Alfred Nobel. Despite inventing TNT he was very concerned with the implications of his invention - hence the Nobel Peace endowment. The Swedish army is well know for its peacekeeping abilities - and one of the things they excel at is the removal of land mines - usually by blowing them up. They have a training facility in Eksjö "Swedish EOD and Demining Centre - (SWEDEC)" - which may be too far away - 4 hrs from Stockholm. see map.
added - nvm about Eksjö - GE took me to the wrong place - the real Eksjö is 15 hours away...
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Post by: ImANewUser on November 03, 2009, 09:01:23 AM
How about MDR Complete Demining AB? I can't seem to find the main site of the company, but I'll keep looking.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: apskip on November 03, 2009, 09:41:41 AM
Here are 2 alternatives, Test Range Linkoping adn Test Range Karlsborg, Both are a long way from Stockholm although for Linkoping it is 109 miles, which could be doable. Other sites are listed at Alvdalen and Visdel in northern Sweden, both of which are too far.
FOI, Linkoping (Swedish Defence Research Agency) Address: FOI, Olaus Magnus vag 42, 583 30 Linkoping Nearest big towns: Linkoping (150 thousand inhabitants) Website: www.foi.ses
Point of contact Name: Ulf Raaf , Sensor Technology Division Organization: FOI, Swedish Defence Research Agency Function: Senior Research Engineer Phone / Fax: +4613378000 Email: ulf.raaf@foi.se
General information Indoor test area (m2): 100 Outdoor test area (m2): 5000
Particular constraints Working hours: 08:00 to 16:30 Entrance requirements: Non-Swedish citizens must apply for permission in advance
Logistics Mechanical workshop: Engineering workshop available, both mechanical and electrical Explosive allowed: Y/N: No Fragmentation?: No Services supplied: Electricity Fuel Water Compressed air Canteen: Lunch restaurant available Distance (km): Hotel: Many hotels available at less than 5 km Railway station: 5 km Airport: 7 km Remarks: Daily flights to Copenhagen International Airport
List of testing facilities available Indoor test and measurement facilities with sand soil. Outdoor test landscape facilities with various magnetic and gravel soils.
Completed, ongoing and planned test & evaluation projects
Ongoing: Mine Detection using radar. A hand-held mine detection device, Humus, is developed based on radar technique. As opposed to metal detectors, radar equipment can find mines with very little or no metallic content. Choosing the bandwidth of the radar correctly, the risk of metal scrap and fragments causing false alarms can be reduced. In addition to developing detection algorithms, much effort is put into classification of different mines and other objects such as stones, metal fragments etc. using advanced signal processing. This reduces the false alarm rate even further and the information of mine type can be useful when neutralizing it.
Completed: Evaluation of ten handhold metal detectors, commissioned by the Swedish Defence Materiel Administration.
Name: FMV:VoVC Test Range Karlsborg (Swedish Defence Materiel Administration Verification and Validation Centre Karlsborg)
Short description: Military test range for all kind of testing of weapons, ammunition, ballistic protection and vehicles. The test range performs testing for civilian companies and organisations.
Point of contact Name: Roger Larsson Organization: FMV:VoVC Test Range Karlsborg Function: Production manager Phone / Fax: +46 (0)505 45 58 28 / +46 (0)505 45 58 82 Email: roger.larsson@fmv.se Mail address FMV:VoVC Provplats Karlsborg P.O Box 8 S-546 23 Karlsborg
Name: Peter Servin Organization: FMV:VoVC Test Range Karlsborg Function: Production manager Phone / Fax: +46 (0)505 46 55 31 / +46 (0)505 48 32 20 Email: peter.servin@fmv.se Mail address FMV:VoVC Provplats Karlsborg P.O Box 8 S-546 23 Karlsborg
General information Indoor test area (m2) --- none Outdoor test area (m2) Approximately 1.000.000 m2 with different types of terrain Explosive allowed: All types of explosives, all types of mines and ordnance up to 20 Kg of explosives.
Services: Canteen. Hot meals are served for lunch, reservation before 09:00 am.
Working hours: 07:30 am - 04:00 pm (Monday - Friday) Entrance requirements: The test range is a restricted area. Security clearance required.
Logistics
Travel and accommodation Airports: Örebro 100 Km Jönköping 100 Km Göteborg 200Km Railway station: 50 Km Hotels: 5 Km
Infra structure: Trucks, dumpers, ammunition storage, administration service, radio- and wirebased communication system, safety surveillance centre, ambulance and local fire brigade Mechanical workshop: Fully equipped Ammunition workshop: Fully equipped
Description FMV (Swedish Defence Material Administration) Verification and validation centre (VoVC) has three test ranges in Sweden.
FMV:VoVC Test Range Vidsel performs missile and aircraft test.
FMV:VoVC Test Range Linköping performs aircraft and airborne system tests.
FMV:VoVC Test Range Karlsborg performs testing of a wide range of ground warfare systems.
Test Range Karlsborg is located at the west shore of lake Vättern in southern Sweden. The test range is fenced in and is as a designated high security area under close surveillance by armed guard at all time.
Landing of cargo is possible at an air force base 5 Km from the test range.
The test range disposes of a large test area at Älvdalen, 450 Km north of Karlsborg, where test with ordnance with explosive weights over 20 Kg can be performed. At Älvdalen and the northern test range (FMV:VoVC Test Range Vidsel), test can be performed in winter condition (cold and snow).
Test Range Karlsborg have capabilities for: - Photo, witch covers single photos to high speed photo (film and video) and X-ray photos. - Advanced photo and film editing. - Measuring of pressure, acceleration and noise. - Environmental testing. - Data reduction and evaluation. - Test dummies for measuring of impact on human bodies. - Permanent fenced in mine field for live mine bodies.
Past, current and planned test and evaluation activities Several trials with thermite charges have been executed at this facilities.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: puddin on November 03, 2009, 12:41:26 PM
ONE TEAM STRUGGLES WITH COOPERATION AT AN EXPLOSIVE DETOUR AND THE RACERS RETURN TO ONE OF THE MOST INFAMOUS ROADBLOCKS IN SERIES' HISTORY, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, NOV. 8 ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK
"This is the Worst Thing I've Ever Done in My Life (Sweden)" — The lack of cooperation hinders one teams efforts at an explosive Detour, and during the series' first ever "Switchback," Teams return to one of the most infamous Roadblocks in the history of the show, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, Nov. 8 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Phil Keoghan is the host.
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Post by: puddin on November 03, 2009, 12:47:39 PM
So it looks like everyone does the Blast/Detour. We might never know the other option, dang.
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Post by: theschnauzers on November 03, 2009, 01:21:53 PM
And notice that the reference to the Speed Bump is not there.
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Post by: puddin on November 03, 2009, 01:48:13 PM
And notice that the reference to the Speed Bump is not there.
They also fixed the "Sweden" blurb under this past weeks elimination station (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/video/?pid=_ev31xA6bgkfSx3sFAzIhGowItZBh9I4) to "Via The Netherlands".
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Post by: Caelestor on November 03, 2009, 02:43:32 PM
So it looks like everyone does the Blast/Detour. We might never know the other option, dang.
Meghan/Cheyne might do the other option; we never saw them at the blast site and they look cleaner than the others.
Yeah i keep forgetting about them :lol:
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Post by: :jerry: on November 03, 2009, 08:38:23 PM
I would like to point out: 1.During the dynamite task I realized behind racers, there's people(probaly racers?)filling up bags with gunpowder(?), maybe the task is: Fill (number) of bags of gunpowder, and bury it, then let's it explode, once it (reaches a certain level) you will receive your net clue.
2.Where's our TAR stalker? The guy we spotted in Cambodia and Tokyo? LOL :lol: jk
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: puddin on November 03, 2009, 09:26:13 PM
Don't know if anyones mentioned it, just stating the obvious that the Gnomes are most likely what the teams have to spot from the Tilt @ the Jet at Grona Land (http://www.gronalund.com/en/attractions/rock-jet/).
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We were there celebrating my son's birthday and we noticed people running around with big back packs on their backs and I jokingly said, gosh you'd think it was the amazing race... AND LOW AND BEHOLD... out comes the clue box, a person jumps on Tilt, comes down and screams it is at the rocket jet or whatever it was called and off they go running for the next clue! source (http://www.lostinsweden.com/showthread.php?p=506715)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Slowhatch on November 04, 2009, 01:06:00 AM
If the spotters on page 1 are accurate, the teams:
Spot an arrow on top of Jetline while riding the Tilt
The arrow points to Rock-Jet (http://www.gronalund.com/en/attractions/rock-jet/)
Maybe the gnomes are inside Rock-jet, or maybe we just lose the trail there. This viewpoint--taken from Bing--shows the arrow direction (Rock-jet is the circular structure).
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: puddin on November 04, 2009, 01:50:49 AM
I haven't flown around Sweden just yet on GE, thats really clear Slowhatch! Is it GE?
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Post by: Slowhatch on November 04, 2009, 02:02:30 AM
Bing (http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=twmg1vjh75k5&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&scene=42654175&encType=1). There's a similar bird's-eye feature at Eniro (http://kartor.eniro.se/query?mop=aq&mapstate=6%3B18.09508%3B59.32346%3Bs%3B18.07146%3B59.33523%3B18.11870%3B59.31169%3B876%3B824%3B0%3B0&what=map_adr&stq=0&pis=0) (click "Utsikt").
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Caelestor on November 04, 2009, 02:05:20 AM
So, from what I see:
Gnome task
Detour (TNT/?)
Switchback
Pitstop
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: puddin on November 04, 2009, 02:10:08 AM
Bing (http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=twmg1vjh75k5&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&scene=42654175&encType=1). There's a similar bird's-eye feature at Eniro (http://kartor.eniro.se/query?mop=aq&mapstate=6%3B18.09508%3B59.32346%3Bs%3B18.07146%3B59.33523%3B18.11870%3B59.31169%3B876%3B824%3B0%3B0&what=map_adr&stq=0&pis=0) (click "Utsikt").
Sweet! All this time I've had bing on my homepage (MSN default) and I never gave it a chance :tup:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: puddin on November 04, 2009, 02:12:20 AM
The clues are usually in order so I'd guess that's right Caelestor (waits patiently for a commercial or promo)
ONE TEAM STRUGGLES WITH COOPERATION AT AN EXPLOSIVE DETOUR AND THE RACERS RETURN TO ONE OF THE MOST INFAMOUS ROADBLOCKS IN SERIES' HISTORY, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, NOV. 8 ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK
"This is the Worst Thing I've Ever Done in My Life (Sweden)" — The lack of cooperation hinders one teams efforts at an explosive Detour, and during the series' first ever "Switchback," Teams return to one of the most infamous Roadblocks in the history of the show, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, Nov. 8 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Phil Keoghan is the host.
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Post by: redskevin88 on November 04, 2009, 03:36:04 AM
Phil: Sweden is a land of gnomes. Using a binoculars, teams will have to spot a gnome, and have keen eyes to find the Travelocity roaming gnome, among his Swede cousins. The first to help bring the gnome home (by bringing it to the pit stop) will win a prize.
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Post by: puddin on November 04, 2009, 10:04:28 AM
By the way wouldn't the Gnome sighting prove that this leg is not a ToBeCont leg? :gnome
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Post by: Coutzy on November 04, 2009, 11:11:42 AM
I think so, but perhaps since we anticipated that Holland was meant to be an NEL (Do we have any evidence to suggest it was supposed to be, btw?) Maybe they will be making this one a TBC and using the gnome as an easy way to still dish out the first place award?
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Post by: theschnauzers on November 04, 2009, 11:19:10 AM
I still suspect we may hear some sort of explanation from Phil -- perhaps when the last of the five teams reach the pit stop -- that let's the fifth team know they're not eliminated because the Maria/Tiffany 24 hour penalty put them so far behind they are eliminated before they could have started this leg.
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Post by: Coutzy on November 04, 2009, 11:21:58 AM
I still suspect we may hear some sort of explanation from Phil -- perhaps when the last of the five teams reach the pit stop -- that let's the fifth team know they're not eliminated because the Maria/Tiffany 24 hour penalty put them so far behind they are eliminated before they could have started this leg.
I'd be willing to bet the other teams know that Maria and Tiffany are eliminated though, seeing as the ES teams do.
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Post by: Caelestor on November 04, 2009, 11:47:00 AM
I doubt this is a TBC though. Teams arrive in Stockholm and finish the leg on 8/1. They depart on 8/2 (a 24-hour pit stop) to arrive at Tallinn on 8/3.
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Post by: puddin on November 04, 2009, 01:53:53 PM
about time CBS
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Post by: puddin on November 04, 2009, 02:09:17 PM
Can anyone understand Matt and Garys directions? :lol:
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Post by: puddin on November 04, 2009, 02:13:30 PM
well the vidcaps are only as good as the crappy quality video but we finally see the amusement park :yess:
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Post by: georgiapeach on November 04, 2009, 02:34:44 PM
Hallelujah! I thought we would never get one!! Thanks puddin!! :hearts:
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Post by: georgiapeach on November 04, 2009, 02:36:51 PM
Hmmm...they still have that "one team encounters a speed bump" thing on there...
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Post by: Slowhatch on November 04, 2009, 02:48:18 PM
There's a roundabout with a fountain in the middle called Karlaplan (http://www.hitta.se/gatubild/?gvX=6581833&gvY=1629980&gvH=51) (which a team might hit traveling south from the airport to Grona Lunds), but I can't quite match the building with the Dutch gables.
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Post by: puddin on November 04, 2009, 03:14:18 PM
Your pretty Amazing Slowhatch! :jumpy: .. maybe they are at a different roundabout looking for the right roundabout?
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Post by: walkingpneumonia on November 04, 2009, 03:23:55 PM
Hmmm...they still have that "one team encounters a speed bump" thing on there...
Just because I can - the Swedish word for speedbump cracks me up... (http://www.flickr.com/photos/38671293@N02/4075475699/) (http://www.thelocal.se/blogs/bostonblatte/files/2009/09/fart-hinder-with-bumps.jpg)
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Post by: Hooky on November 04, 2009, 03:26:13 PM
Aw, c'mon, the Roadblock question should be "Who's got hay fever?" I knew it wouldn't be a perfect duplicate.
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Post by: NoluckBoston on November 04, 2009, 05:58:40 PM
So from the photos we can see the Trotters behind the Brothers at the detour.
I know this is all speculation but it seems like The brothers are first at the Roadblock and that the Trotters and Meghan Follow behind.
So Zebra and the Farmers are bring up the rear. :girly
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Post by: georgiapeach on November 04, 2009, 10:04:50 PM
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Fritt Fall Tilt (The Giant Drop with Tilt)The world’s highest Giant Drop with Tilt. What can we say? A world-class attraction. You’ll hang in the air without foot support before being tilted forward and plunging freely towards the ground – from 80 metres! Come on….stick out those arms and legs….if you dare!
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Post by: Caelestor on November 05, 2009, 01:32:16 AM
Yay self-driving!
I wounder if they put less clues in the hay bales this time (there are fewer times). :duno:
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Post by: Zatchbellcool on November 05, 2009, 05:56:57 AM
Just a question....
Whats with the Big Red X on the Bottom of Sam & Dan's Gnome? Look at the video, theres a big Red X on the Bottom of the Base of the Gnome....Maybe a twist in the race like in Season 7? :duno:
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Post by: puddin on November 05, 2009, 10:09:22 AM
Yeah, probably like season 7, the gnome with a special marking at the bottom wins that team a trip. I can't recall if the red x is there to cover the marking? Phil removes the tape to reveal the trip or not? Maybe someone with a better memory can recall.
Looks like the brothers and Meg/Cheyne arrive at the Grona Land together. So thanks to the bloggers we know that The Globetrotters arrive first and Brian and Ericka arrive last, fwiw
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Post by: georgiapeach on November 05, 2009, 10:13:09 AM
I don't remember if the big red X IS the special marking or the something to be removed...but somebody gets a goodie!
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Post by: apskip on November 05, 2009, 10:37:18 AM
Could the RED X be marking the winning gnome? or perhaps a losing gnome?
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Post by: Mandoli on November 05, 2009, 10:56:03 AM
I think there was a certain symbol if a team got a winning prize. Red X's might mean you don't get the gnome prize?
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Post by: walkingpneumonia on November 05, 2009, 12:25:47 PM
I wounder if they put less clues in the hay bales this time (there are fewer times). :duno:
Curious how they get to the hay bales task. Don't see any cars or bicycles in the previews. In season 6 they took the metro to Haggvik station and rode bicycles from there.
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Post by: puddin on November 05, 2009, 02:10:23 PM
commercial shown this morning
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Post by: puddin on November 05, 2009, 08:19:48 PM
hhmm well not much new in the commercial during Survivor
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Post by: theschnauzers on November 05, 2009, 08:59:41 PM
Well, notice the bottom of the Trotters' gnome compared to Dan and Sam's.
I have a feeling that red "X" will work in Sam/Dan's favor when they get to the pit stop.
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Post by: DeafRacer on November 05, 2009, 10:25:02 PM
Im gonna throw my 2 cent in that the reason Sam and Dan's gnome got red X is that the gnome may be the replacement? My team's gnome got broken into several pieces during China leg. We got the replacement at the Opera house and it doesn't have the clue on it. I don't think the red X means anything tho. I may be wrong!
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Post by: puddin on November 06, 2009, 12:17:04 AM
Thanks Luke! Your always more than welcomed to put your 2 cents in :hearts:
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Post by: Caelestor on November 06, 2009, 12:01:24 PM
Curious how they get to the hay bales task. Don't see any cars or bicycles in the previews. In season 6 they took the metro to Haggvik station and rode bicycles from there.
Perhaps the train and taxi?
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Post by: littlewop on November 06, 2009, 12:44:17 PM
Whats with the Big Red X on the Bottom of Sam & Dan's Gnome? Look at the video, theres a big Red X on the Bottom of the Base of the Gnome....Maybe a twist in the race like in Season 7? :duno:
The show description said racers have to pick out a travelocity gnome from it's Swedish cousins. Could the red X mean that they picked out one of the wrong gnomes?
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Post by: puddin on November 06, 2009, 02:27:15 PM
Whats with the Big Red X on the Bottom of Sam & Dan's Gnome? Look at the video, theres a big Red X on the Bottom of the Base of the Gnome....Maybe a twist in the race like in Season 7? :duno:
The show description said racers have to pick out a travelocity gnome from it's Swedish cousins. Could the red X mean that they picked out one of the wrong gnomes?
Where did you read that littlewop?
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Post by: littlewop on November 06, 2009, 02:39:35 PM
Phil: Sweden is a land of gnomes. Using a binoculars, teams will have to spot a gnome, and have keen eyes to find the Travelocity roaming gnome, among his Swede cousins. The first to help bring the gnome home (by bringing it to the pit stop) will win a prize.
From here!
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Post by: puddin on November 06, 2009, 02:49:47 PM
:groan: redskevin88 made that up, hes one of those Fantasy Game people I think :lol: ?
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Post by: littlewop on November 06, 2009, 02:55:47 PM
There's a roundabout with a fountain in the middle called Karlaplan (http://www.hitta.se/gatubild/?gvX=6581833&gvY=1629980&gvH=51) (which a team might hit traveling south from the airport to Grona Lunds), but I can't quite match the building with the Dutch gables.
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Post by: Slowhatch on November 06, 2009, 10:25:22 PM
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I heard something-boggan during Matt and Gary's direction confusion
I wouldn't spend extra time on it. I can definitely place them at Karlaplan (compare the windows and flagpole), probably heading south to Grona Lunds (from where the cap was taken (http://www.hitta.se/gatubild/?gvX=6581842&gvY=1629971&gvH=336), all they had to do is take the next right and go south on the alameda). The other buildings and streets were probably just stuff they passed by while lost.
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Post by: georgiapeach on November 06, 2009, 10:57:31 PM
That's really amazing slowhatch, Thank You!!
They can run, but they can't hide from the sharpest eyes in town! :jam:
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Post by: Hooky on November 06, 2009, 11:14:51 PM
In Season 7 Leg 9, teams had to bring their gnome to the Pit Stop. All 4 gnomes had a different form of transportation on them, and the team with the plane on the bottom of their gnome won the prize for that leg (which, ironically, was last place Ron & Kelly).
Just throwing that out for clarification. :tup:
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Post by: Cocoa on November 06, 2009, 11:17:29 PM
From Facebook:
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The Amazing Race On the next Amazing Race: One team encounters a speed bump while racing through Stockholm and & much more! Check out this preview!!
They are emphasizing the speed bump thingy, but I think that does not mean literally. It may be a personal struggle, or just one of the difficult challenges to complete, but NOT the REAL SPEED BUMP!
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Post by: puddin on November 07, 2009, 12:10:45 AM
^^ I'm not going there again uycocoa :groan: :colors :badhorse:
And nice work as always Slowhatch!
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Post by: Cocoa on November 07, 2009, 12:14:04 AM
^^ I'm not going there again uycocoa :groan: :colors :badhorse:
And nice work as always Slowhatch!
oops.. sorry. Im just putting another period in a period. :lol3:
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Post by: georgiapeach on November 07, 2009, 12:19:08 AM
Here are my little mysteries for this leg:
** What sort of explanation re Maria/Tiffany's lack of an official elim will we see?
**Why does a spoiler source, who is on site, call the Grona Land clue a Detour? Sounds like something he would have had to have overheard. (Note that I am not suggesting it is a Detour, just an oddity>)
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It was very hush hush over the whole. The few people who were involved were forced to sign confidentiality papers (I am not one of those, however, so I can babble freely ). ****ing fast to cover up the envelope box with black refuse sacks, they were also, as soon as the participants were not in the vicinity.
What I understood the whole situation as it was a "Detour" (only a few were run), the task was to go tilt. A strange detail is that there is still something on the roof at Jetline: an arrow in the TAR colors that point in the direction of the Jet Rock. What it used to, I know not ...
** Where/What is the other Detour? They need to be not outrageously far away from each other. Are we totally not seeing any of Stockholm this time??
** How do team GET to the RB? Train and bicycles again? Just train? Or a continuation of the self drive??
**Will Lena and Kristy appear as greeters? >> I will never forgive CBS for missing an opportunity if they don't, esp after all the hype.
And hmmm...WHERE is the PITSTOP anyway??
In season 6 it was at Af Chapman. The intriguing thing here is that it is a YOUTH HOSTEL. and I am still looking for the youth hostel Phil told us they stayed in along the way.
Note that I am also not suggesting it is, just wondering.
** And my biggest question! Why does Meghan do the RB?? She and Cheyne are even at 3 each and they have a "spare" since they did the FF> I smell the hand of Bertram in this, I am sure he wanted to see at least ONE female unrolling the bales, since Tiffany and Maria are not here now to struggle at this one. I'll bet TPTB were VERY disappointed to not have a F/F team to do this RB.
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Post by: Jobby on November 07, 2009, 12:27:10 AM
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** And my biggest question! Why does Meghan do the RB?? She and Cheyne are even at 3 each and they have a "spare" since they did the FF> I smell the hand of Bertram in this, I am sure he wanted to see at least ONE female unrolling the bales, since Tiffany and Maria are not here now to struggle at this one. I'll bet TPTB were VERY disappointed to not have a F/F team to do this RB.
Exactly. Are they the victims of the SwitchBack, which is actually a twist which forces the other team member to complete the Roadblock after the first team member has done it? I can totally see one of those all-male teams using it on Meghan and Cheyne to slow them down to kill them out of the race.... because they're simply doing so well and racing so fast.
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Post by: puddin on November 07, 2009, 01:34:35 AM
B:)
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Teams fortunate enough to avoid the surprise elimination and compete for the $ 1 million prize will face the "Switchback," which sends Teams back to the site of one of the series' most infamous Roadblocks
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For the first time, one team will be booted at the start of the trek, and racers will have to tackle the Switchback, a new twist that sends teams back to one of the series' most challenging "roadblocks."
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Post by: Mandoli on November 07, 2009, 01:51:56 AM
I think the Switchback is just another way of saying Roadblock. Meghan's not the only one to become all pissed off while she's working on it. Other RB racers are having trouble.
Maybe it's the way the task is set up. When they first did this, it was 20 clues in the haybales. Maybe there's fewer clues?
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Post by: redskevin88 on November 07, 2009, 05:11:06 AM
I think the Switchback is just another way of saying Roadblock. Meghan's not the only one to become all pissed off while she's working on it. Other RB racers are having trouble.
Maybe it's the way the task is set up. When they first did this, it was 20 clues in the haybales. Maybe there's fewer clues?
Because there are fewer teams this time, I think it's only far, if they either reduce the number of haybales, or increase the number of clues. Of course, the Amazing race is never about being fair.
** And my biggest question! Why does Meghan do the RB?? She and Cheyne are even at 3 each and they have a "spare" since they did the FF> I smell the hand of Bertram in this, I am sure he wanted to see at least ONE female unrolling the bales, since Tiffany and Maria are not here now to struggle at this one. I'll bet TPTB were VERY disappointed to not have a F/F team to do this RB.
Exactly. Are they the victims of the SwitchBack, which is actually a twist which forces the other team member to complete the Roadblock after the first team member has done it? I can totally see one of those all-male teams using it on Meghan and Cheyne to slow them down to kill them out of the race.... because they're simply doing so well and racing so fast.
If Cheyne does the hay bales the first time and then Meghan, it means a team is ahead of C&M to switch them back.
Maybe the bottom of the gnome holds the "info" for the SwitchBack. Sam & Dan have the X and do not have to SwitchBack. Cheyne & Meghan have no X on their gnome and must do the round bales again. Pure speculation on my part!
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Post by: Lucybell on November 07, 2009, 08:18:02 AM
Exactly. Are they the victims of the SwitchBack, which is actually a twist which forces the other team member to complete the Roadblock after the first team member has done it? I can totally see one of those all-male teams using it on Meghan and Cheyne to slow them down to kill them out of the race.... because they're simply doing so well and racing so fast.
If Cheyne does the hay bales the first time and then Meghan, it means a team is ahead of C&M to switch them back.
Maybe the bottom of the gnome holds the "info" for the SwitchBack.
But the gnome is an inshow promotion from Travelocity, that's why they are there. I don't expect the gnome to be anything other than a "who gets a trip" prize.
BUT I am still VERY puzzled by why Meghan is choosing this RB to do. As fans of the show, I would expect all of the teams knew exactly what they were getting into when they saw the haybales.
So a new game twist as Joab and gator suggest could be VERY interesting and might explain Meghan's choice (LACK of choice??) in doing this RB. It also gives the TPTB one more shot at having a woman doing this task again, which I am sure they were desperately hoping for.
Viewers have been proposing a new RB twist for sometime, there are whole threads about it across the boards. Maybe TBTB that be finally paid attention??
We do need to remember that at this point that we have NO EVIDENCE that the switchback is anything other than a revisit to an old RB site. But giving that revisit a name {{Switchback}}} that could fit with Detour/Roadblock/U-turn, combined with the very puzzling (to me) fact of Meghan choosing this RB to do when she clearly doesn't need to, is making me think that a NEW RB twist could actually be possible after all.
It will be fun to see how TPTB handle all this!!
And yes, pure speculation, but in the realm of possibility:
IF this is a new game twist.... WHO would be inclined to "Switchback" Meghan and Cheyne??
A panicked Brian/Ericka who are desperately trying to escape last place? the Trotters, who were foreshadowed in Dubai saying we will do ANYTHING it takes to stay in the game?? Dan and Sam getting competitve??
Okay, I am convinced! :funny: I've gone to the dark side! Now I'll be disappointed if it isn't anything but a RB revisit. :lol:
But not as disappointed as I will be if there is no Lena.
edited to add:
Okay, still thinking this through here.
Would be really have a new RB twist AND a NEL?? Even if the NEL may not have originally been meant for this leg??
More mystery!!
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Post by: Mandoli on November 07, 2009, 10:15:08 AM
I'm pretty much convinced that Meghan is doing this because she wanted to, rather than she was forced to do this, which leads to poor decision making on their part.
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Post by: Lucybell on November 07, 2009, 10:54:02 AM
** And my biggest question! Why does Meghan do the RB?? She and Cheyne are even at 3 each and they have a "spare" since they did the FF> I smell the hand of Bertram in this, I am sure he wanted to see at least ONE female unrolling the bales, since Tiffany and Maria are not here now to struggle at this one. I'll bet TPTB were VERY disappointed to not have a F/F team to do this RB.
Exactly. Are they the victims of the SwitchBack, which is actually a twist which forces the other team member to complete the Roadblock after the first team member has done it? I can totally see one of those all-male teams using it on Meghan and Cheyne to slow them down to kill them out of the race.... because they're simply doing so well and racing so fast.
Aww Well, maybe Cheyne did it the first time and found the rotten clue that now, Meghan had to do it too? But Cheyne looked so pretty at the roadblock watching Meghan. Looked like he hadn't done a 'blasted' thing! Which brings me to... I wonder if they did the Explosive Detour? They were the only team NOT shown in the promo's and commercials. So, either they did something else, or they got there before anyone else and were gone before anyone else or they suffered a terrible fate, yield? OR they were the very last to arrive...
However, the way the teams have talked recently, I think they would all like to see the Trotters gone and if they had a chance to use a yield, it would be on them? JMO
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Post by: puddin on November 07, 2009, 10:59:50 AM
Maybe Cheyne has bad allergies and thats why Meghan choose to do the Roadblock? Or its just that she likes being in control?
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Post by: Lucybell on November 07, 2009, 11:10:04 AM
Maybe Cheyne has bad allergies and thats why Meghan choose to do the Roadblock? Or its just that she likes being in control?
OMG! :faint:
Now I am all muddled again, lol!
I'm still hoping for a Roadblock twist because if we have a U-TURN which sends a team back to do a U-TURN, then a Switchback which forces the other team member to complete the task would be a great idea. But i think i'm probably looking into too much, because they will probably tell and explain to the viewers about the new twist like when the U-TURN was first introduced. Maybe some of the producers read our comments posted and will incorporate our ideas into the race next season... :funny:
OFFTOPIC: I'm starting to miss Intersections. :funny:
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Post by: puddin on November 07, 2009, 02:49:37 PM
UGH I hated the intersections! Cow lips ewwwwwww
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Post by: Dånooky on November 07, 2009, 03:01:42 PM
Maybe Cheyne has bad allergies and thats why Meghan choose to do the Roadblock? Or its just that she likes being in control?
OMG! :faint:
Now I am all muddled again, lol!
Maybe Meghan decided to do it to honor the sisters
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Post by: apskip on November 07, 2009, 03:19:34 PM
I will offer my hypothesis on why Meghan is doing a known potentially difficult ROADBLOCK. The answer is the ROADBLACK BALANCE RULE, which says that there is a maximum in ROADBLOCKS that Cheyne can do. I have never found out what the magic formula is, but I believe that it will result in maybe 7 Cheyne to 4 for Meghan (they have one less in total than other teams due to the FAST FORWARD). With the uncertainties of the last 4 legs ahead, they could be setting their team up to have Cheyne do all the remaining 4 Roadblocks. Or Meghan could do all but one of them. That kind of flexibility is invaluable in the upcoming most competitive legs of AR15. They will be thinking that they will need it to compete against the Globetrotters or Sam/Dan.
Let me move on to the related subject of the number of bales to expect. I think that the relative proportions of clues in the bales to remaining racers will be maintained. There were 270 bales in AR6, ep.3, 20 clues, and 9 racers competing. This time there are 5 racers competing, which scales down to 150 bales and 11 clues if they want the relative conditions to be the same. Remember that all teams except Lena and Kristy had little trouble with this ROADBLOCK. It became epic only because Lena apparently missed a number of clues in her bales (which could happen again). I think Cheyne and Meghan are gambling that Meghan, who appears to be a fairly strong and athletic type, will be able to handle it.
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Post by: littlewop on November 07, 2009, 03:48:13 PM
I agree with apskip. I think Meghan does the roadblock because 1) she thinks she can handle it no problem, and 2) you never know what the RB's will be down the road, so pick 1 now that she feels confident in and have the freedom for her to be able to skip any future ones that may be even worse.
Peach also said that the eye witnessed thought that the amusement park was the detour. He/she may have been confused by hearing the teams mention Detour when reading the next clue. Wouldn't they get the clue after the gnome, stating DETOUR...go to point A for this task OR go to point B for that task? And the fact that they said that there very few detours, there is usually one each leg of the race, so maybe another indication of some confusion on the witnesses part.
And regarding the speedbump this week....Just Kiddin' Puddin'!! :funny:
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Post by: Chateau d If on November 07, 2009, 05:03:18 PM
Puddin, did you notice that these images are recycled from Season 6? (:;)
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Post by: Slowhatch on November 07, 2009, 07:29:03 PM
A different view here (http://kartor.eniro.se/query?mop=aq&mapstate=1%3B17.89541%3B59.44207%3Bo%3B17.89073%3B59.44419%3B17.89914%3B59.44038%3B1244%3B762%3B0%3B1&mapcomp=%3B%3B%3BV%E4sby%20g%E5rd%20MANHUSET%3B%3B%3B19162%3BSOLLENTUNA%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B17.898632337593%3B59.4412054463166%3B0%3B0%3B%3BSOLLENTUNA%3Bmaps_place.15246777.23%3B0&what=map_adr&searchInMap=1&geo_area=V%E4sby%20g%E5rd%20MANHUSET%2C%20SOLLENTUNA&stq=0&pis=0). Apparently the place, called Vasby Gard (farm), is the home of Naturskolan (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=sv&u=http://www.sollentuna.se/Kommunen/Barn--utbildning/Naturskolan-i-Sollentuna/Var-ligger-Naturskolan/&ei=CRv2SoiDLJCgswPcxvUF&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBgQ7gEwAg&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522v%25C3%25A4sby%2Bg%25C3%25A5rd%2522%2Bhaggvik%26hl%3Den) (nature school), where they teach city kids about cows or something.
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Post by: mswood on November 07, 2009, 08:38:15 PM
I think people are over thinking on this.
Some racers just switch one racer to the next, regardless of asks, and some just make decisions based on the clue without thinking about what the task might be.
I think to look for something beyond that when we have no evidence of it being anything besides the two examples above it really reaching.
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Post by: beatlelovr on November 07, 2009, 09:44:19 PM
I think "switchback" will ultimately mean throwback like when NFL teams where the old time uniforms.
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Post by: Hooky on November 07, 2009, 10:48:42 PM
Some racers just switch one racer to the next, regardless of asks, and some just make decisions based on the clue without thinking about what the task might be.
I think to look for something beyond that when we have no evidence of it being anything besides the two examples above it really reaching.
Agreed. The Switchback is not an official "new" type of clue; it just refers to the revisiting of a task from a previous season. It's kind of like an official nickname.
About the only mystery in my mind is what the X on the bottom of Sam & Dan's gnome is for, when clearly Herbert & Nathaniels' gnome doesn't have one.
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Post by: puddin on November 07, 2009, 11:13:28 PM
Why doesn't someone go find season 7, EP9 and see exactly how Phil reveals to Ron and Kelly that they won the trip, he reveals a plane on the bottom of the gnome but I can't recall exactly how it was revealed.
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Post by: Zack. on November 07, 2009, 11:47:52 PM
Why doesn't someone go find season 7, EP9 and see exactly how Phil reveals to Ron and Kelly that they won the trip, he reveals a plane on the bottom of the gnome but I can't recall exactly how it was revealed.
He turned over everyone's gnomes. On Uchenna/Joyce, Meredith/Gretchen, and Romber's gnomes, there was a blank picture of a sky, while Ron/Kelly's had an airplane in it. (incidentally, the airplane was visible as R/K were heading up to the pit stop; I don't know why they were so surprised when they could've easily looked down)
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Post by: Coutzy on November 08, 2009, 01:23:34 AM
I think there were four different modes of transport on the gnomes. The plane was the winner, and I think there was a boat and a car or something.
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Post by: Jobby on November 08, 2009, 01:29:00 AM
I think there were four different modes of transport on the gnomes. The plane was the winner, and I think there was a boat and a car or something.
Yup. I think on the race, they just want to find a gnome and go and really didn't overthink and try to find one with a plane below it...
I don't think they knew which one was the prize winner either.
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Post by: redskevin88 on November 08, 2009, 06:05:05 AM
There are 12 legs and I assume 12 roadblocks, and the roadblock limit is six... M/C -1 and one person can do the most six... if I was them, i'll try to make it 5-5 going into the final leg, so that either of them could do the final roadblock, like what Jamie and Cara did.
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Post by: gator27 on November 08, 2009, 07:16:49 AM
Continuing to over think the SwitchBack B:)
Racers decide who is going to do a Roadblock before opening the clue. What if once they open the clue it says that the other teammate must do the Roadblock.
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Post by: Coutzy on November 08, 2009, 07:41:24 AM
Racers decide who is going to do a Roadblock before opening the clue. What if once they open the clue it says that the other teammate must do the Roadblock.
Different. I like it. Do eet CBS.
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Post by: Cocoa on November 08, 2009, 08:25:16 AM
Racers decide who is going to do a Roadblock before opening the clue. What if once they open the clue it says that the other teammate must do the Roadblock.
Different. I like it. Do eet CBS.
:tup: Like it!
To support the hypothesis:
If you are a racer, and obviously you see haybales around you, you will think its time to do the RB in Season 6. And of course, a racer who is afraid to do it that they may screw the team, will have to force his/her teammate to do it. Its the "Switch" part in the "Switchback". The "back" means to do repeat the challenge again.
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Post by: realshowfan on November 08, 2009, 09:34:35 AM
Okay I am lost at the Switchback thing so what's the list of possibilities? I will be so mad if it's just a term for the task though. (:;)
Extracted from Wikipedia: A hairpin turn (also hairpin bend, hairpin corner, etc.), named for its resemblance to a hairpin/bobby pin, is a bend in a road with a very acute inner angle, making it necessary for an oncoming vehicle to turn almost 180° to continue on the road. Such turns in ramps and trails may be called switchbacks in American English, by analogy with switchback railways. In British English 'switchback' is more likely to refer to a heavily undulating road—a use extended from the rollercoaster and the other type of switchback railway.
So in simple words: A switchback is a very acute turn in trails/ramps in America. A switchback is a roller-coaster shaped road in Britain. But since it's America, we're going with the hairpin, whose angle is so small the turning for vehicles is large. Now we just need to intepret it to make it The Amazing Race-ish. :lol:
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Post by: littlewop on November 08, 2009, 10:43:19 AM
Racers decide who is going to do a Roadblock before opening the clue. What if once they open the clue it says that the other teammate must do the Roadblock.
But then that would mean that Ericka volunteered to do it originally...I do nOT see that happening. But can see Meghan being more confident thinking it's as easy as a roll in the hay.... ;D
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Post by: georgiapeach on November 08, 2009, 11:01:02 AM
Racers decide who is going to do a Roadblock before opening the clue. What if once they open the clue it says that the other teammate must do the Roadblock.
The only problem is that racers get the short version of the clue before, not after, they decide. This time, thanls to the preview, we know that the racers know it has somwthing to do with Hay! My guess is that they all suspected the task would be the haybales...
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Post by: littlewop on November 08, 2009, 11:07:03 AM
Has anyone found the Hours of Operation for Grona Lunds? The only times I could locate (in English) were 12:00AM to 11:00PM. Typo? or just really odd hours of operation?
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Post by: Jobby on November 08, 2009, 11:07:15 AM
All i can say is.. we've waited all season for the haybales. :yess: :funny:
Too bad i have work tomorrow morning!!!! (:;)
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Post by: georgiapeach on November 08, 2009, 11:12:17 AM
But you are really sick....right?? :hearts:
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Post by: Blob on November 08, 2009, 11:38:32 AM
Has anyone found the Hours of Operation for Grona Lunds? The only times I could locate (in English) were 12:00AM to 11:00PM. Typo? or just really odd hours of operation?
Odd hours? Why Odd?
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Post by: Lucybell on November 08, 2009, 12:01:55 PM
Has anyone found the Hours of Operation for Grona Lunds? The only times I could locate (in English) were 12:00AM to 11:00PM. Typo? or just really odd hours of operation?
Odd hours? Why Odd?
Because that would mean they are open 23 hours a day. LOL Seems kinda weird, if they are going to be open 23 hours, why not 24? Do they need to give their rides a lunch break? :funny:
Might be a typo though, I would guess it's more like 12:00PM to 11:00PM?
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Post by: littlewop on November 08, 2009, 12:02:18 PM
Has anyone found the Hours of Operation for Grona Lunds? The only times I could locate (in English) were 12:00AM to 11:00PM. Typo? or just really odd hours of operation?
Odd hours? Why Odd?
It just seems odd to me to open at Midnight, and close at 11:00PM. I wondered if they meant 12:00PM (noon) instead.
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Post by: puddin on November 08, 2009, 12:08:18 PM
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Post by: littlewop on November 08, 2009, 12:12:05 PM
Thanks Puddin' !
:-*
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Post by: Chateau d If on November 08, 2009, 01:18:58 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep8/rff-0093.jpg) The only strategies I can think of for this task are: (and we've had 5 years to think about it :groan:)
1) While unrolling watch both the revealed part that you are walking on and the rising part that you are rolling in case the clue sticks there.
2) Unroll the haybales towards the road. The advantage is to have the sun light shining on your back so the revealed clue will catch more light and be more likely to be spotted. It looks overcast in the promos but the brightest light still comes from the direction from where the sun is. From the promos, it looks like the sun is in the southwest shining perpendicular to the road (3pm ish).
Good luck :tup:
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Post by: theschnauzers on November 08, 2009, 01:52:30 PM
In rewatching the TAR 6 footage, it seemed to me that the clue packets are not buried in the layers of the straw as a bale is unrolled, but is on the surface of a layer as it is exposed.
That could just be editing, but that seemed to be the only constant I saw from the footage.
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Post by: Blob on November 08, 2009, 02:50:02 PM
Has anyone found the Hours of Operation for Grona Lunds? The only times I could locate (in English) were 12:00AM to 11:00PM. Typo? or just really odd hours of operation?
Odd hours? Why Odd?
It just seems odd to me to open at Midnight, and close at 11:00PM. I wondered if they meant 12:00PM (noon) instead.
1st of July they open 11 in the morning and close 10 in the evening. Quite normal for a place like that
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Post by: puddin on November 08, 2009, 02:52:02 PM
Not that it matters but the date we are looking for is August 1st 2009 ^^
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Post by: gator27 on November 08, 2009, 03:30:14 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep8/rff-0093.jpg) The only strategies I can think of for this task are: (and we've had 5 years to think about it :groan:)
2) Unroll the haybales towards the road. The advantage is to have the sun light shining on your back so the revealed clue will catch more light and be more likely to be spotted. It looks overcast in the promos but the brightest light still comes from the direction from where the sun is. From the promos, it looks like the sun is in the southwest shining perpendicular to the road (3pm ish).
Good luck :tup:
The unrolling towards the road sounds good if you choose bales that are already pointed that direction. Turning/spinning one of the very heavy round bales will not be possible.
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Post by: puddin on November 08, 2009, 04:34:07 PM
finally a sports promo and this is all thats new
Brian and Gary at the haybales together
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Post by: puddin on November 08, 2009, 04:44:44 PM
weather underground (http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/ESSA/2009/8/1/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA) 10:50 AM 62.6 °F 57.2 °F 82% 29.92 in 6.2 miles West 3.5 mph - N/A Mostly Cloudy 11:20 AM 60.8 °F 59.0 °F 94% 29.92 in 6.2 miles NW 5.8 mph - N/A Rain Light Rain Showers 11:50 AM 62.6 °F 59.0 °F 88% 29.92 in 6.2 miles WNW 5.8 mph - N/A Mostly Cloudy 12:50 PM 64.4 °F 59.0 °F 83% 29.92 in 6.2 miles WNW 3.5 mph - N/A Mostly Cloudy 1:50 PM 66.2 °F 57.2 °F 73% 29.92 in 6.2 miles North 4.6 mph - N/A Mostly Cloudy 2:20 PM 66.2 °F 57.2 °F 73% 29.92 in 6.2 miles SSE 4.6 mph - N/A Mostly Cloudy 2:50 PM 66.2 °F 55.4 °F 68% 29.92 in 6.2 miles SSW 4.6 mph - N/A Scattered Clouds 3:20 PM 66.2 °F 57.2 °F 73% 29.92 in 6.2 miles South 8.1 mph - N/A Mostly Cloudy 3:50 PM 64.4 °F 55.4 °F 73% 29.92 in 6.2 miles NNE 11.5 mph - N/A Mostly Cloudy 4:20 PM 64.4 °F 55.4 °F 73% 29.92 in 6.2 miles NNE 5.8 mph - N/A Scattered Clouds 4:50 PM 66.2 °F 57.2 °F 73% 29.92 in - East 4.6 mph - N/A Clear 5:20 PM 66.2 °F 57.2 °F 73% 29.92 in - SE 4.6 mph - N/A Clear 5:50 PM 66.2 °F 55.4 °F 68% 29.95 in - SW 3.5 mph - N/A Clear 6:20 PM 68.0 °F 57.2 °F 68% 29.95 in 6.2 miles ENE 3.5 mph - N/A Partly Cloudy
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: redskevin88 on November 08, 2009, 06:06:49 PM
From the promos, it looks as if several teams are ready to take a 4-hour penalty... which could get very interesting.
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Post by: Mandoli on November 08, 2009, 07:12:44 PM
From the promos, it looks as if several teams are ready to take a 4-hour penalty... which could get very interesting.
Mass Roadblock refusal. Not the first time it's happened, but I agree. Could be quite interesting to see what happens.
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Post by: mswood on November 08, 2009, 07:30:13 PM
Actual flight info, I die of shock.
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Post by: apskip on November 08, 2009, 08:57:54 PM
The actual flight information would be unknown for arrival of KL1107 in Stockholm. Departure was 17 minutes late but it could ahve made up time. I would guesstimate arrival around 0900 for the first 3 teams. KL1109 departed a littlelate but arrived 4 minutes early at 1121am. The Saturday/Sunday schedule for the Arlanda Express train to downtown Stockholm's 20 minute ride is 5, 20, 35 and 50 after every hour, which confirms Gary's Statement that it is every 15 minutes.
Sicne the camera/sound crew has to get their equipment before teams can leave the airport, I believe the train that Sam/Dan got was 935am and the one Herb/Nate got was 950am and the one Brian/Ericka got was 1150am and the one Gary/Matt got was 1205pm.
The ferry to Grona Lund goes takes only 5 minutes from Gamla Stand to Djurgarden Island. You can also get there from Slusseen Island in 8 minutes. Which one was correct for teams to get to Grona Lund? I don't know and may not be able to get appropraite information on this.
I have a map of Djurgarden with Tivoli Grona Lund in the loswer left side of the island. The ferry route from Gamla Stan on the left side is obvious but the one form Slussen is not:
Here is a statement about the bus routes to the Silja ferry to Tallinn: The Tallink-Silja ferries arrive at Frihamnen close to central Stockholm every day from Helsinki, Turku, Tallinn and Riga. From Frihamnen you can get to the Gärdet subway station or take busses number 1, 72 or 76 to central Stockholm. More information about stops and timetables can be found on SL’s website www.sl.se.
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Post by: georgiapeach on November 08, 2009, 09:04:26 PM
Thanks apskip!!
Here is what I had on the arrival time for KL 1107. looks like it arrived on time at 855.
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Post by: apskip on November 08, 2009, 09:08:39 PM
Peach:
Please look again. Do you see the words ACTUAL like for the departure time. No, you don't. That is almost surely because your source does not know that one factoid when thye do know the departure time was 712am, 17 minutes late.
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Post by: Chateau d If on November 08, 2009, 09:12:55 PM
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Sicne the camera/sound crew has to get their equipment before teams can leave the airport, I believe the train that Sam/Dan got was 935am and the one Herb/Nate got was 950am and the one Brian/Ericka got was 1150am and the one Gary/Matt got was 1205pm.
Hey Apskip, the camera/sound crew take all their stuff into the cabin just like everybody else! No delays are incurred on their behalf.
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Post by: georgiapeach on November 08, 2009, 09:14:18 PM
oops you are right, they don't have actual. I can ask our source herself if she remembers though, maybe she will?
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Post by: theschnauzers on November 08, 2009, 09:26:20 PM
Jf anything, the haybale roadblock this time was even more difficult, if for no other reason than they had to find TAR flags, and not clue envelopes in plastic sheaths. Those were bigger, flatter, and easier to see/feel than the flags.
What was the purpose for winning the gnomes this time? They all got to the Amazing Mat, but no explanation. And no explanation why Sam/Dan's gnome had a big red "X" on the bottom, and not the others, once the detour clue was removed.
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Post by: apskip on November 08, 2009, 09:27:59 PM
It's time for some statistics. The average probability of a hit with 7 flags and 186 bales is 3.76% per attempt assuming that all teams left no clues in their bales. That means that it would take an average of 26.6 tries before a team found one flag. Although it could vary as flags are actually found, on average it would still stay roughly the same unless there was a "run on the bank". Sam with over 100 tries would have taken 4 times the average. Somebody has to be above average and others below average because that the way a random task works. It is hard to say how long it took to unroll each bale and get to the next one. My guess is that it was about 2 minutes per try. That means that the average time to complete would be about 53 minutes. Meghan reported 2 hours plus. Gary had 2 hours 45 minutes for his. Sam took longer than Meghan and probably longer than Matt. Maybe 3 hours? Big Easy took a short time and so did Brian.
In comparison to the AR6 Ep. 3 Lena effort, the original specs were for 20 clues in 270 bales with 9 teams. This time there were more bales and fewer clues when the number of teams were equalized. The statistics for the original ROADBLOCK were 7.4% hit rate, almost exactly twice the percentage for AR15 ep. 8. The number of bales were 30 per team originally and 37.2 for AR15. On any measure, AR15 Ep.8 was consdeirably tougher than the original.
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Post by: Neobie on November 08, 2009, 09:40:03 PM
Could I request caps for the Arlanda train station? I think we saw a couple of clocks there! ;D
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Post by: puddin on November 08, 2009, 09:43:30 PM
Jf anything, the haybale roadblock this time was even more difficult, if for no other reason than they had to find TAR flags, and not clue envelopes in plastic sheaths. Those were bigger, flatter, and easier to see/feel than the flags.
What was the purpose for winning the gnomes this time? They all got to the Amazing Mat, but no explanation. And no explanation why Sam/Dan's gnome had a big red "X" on the bottom, and not the others, once the detour clue was removed.
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Post by: georgiapeach on November 08, 2009, 10:25:59 PM
Maybe the Big RED X was no more than double sided tape holding the clue in place?
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Post by: autowil on November 08, 2009, 10:30:23 PM
Wow u all guys are so observant.. :ascared
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Post by: redskevin88 on November 08, 2009, 10:41:54 PM
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4 hours, 100 water logged hay bales later...
http://twitter.com/sammcmillen
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Post by: Slowhatch on November 08, 2009, 10:48:41 PM
This week was no exception, so I guess this blog (http://www.theaccordiondiaries.com/2009/11/folk-dance-of-doom.html) has it right: the producers really like the accordion.
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Post by: Chateau d If on November 09, 2009, 12:22:53 AM
It's time for some statistics. The average probability of a hit with 7 flags and 186 bales is 3.76% per attempt assuming that all teams left no clues in their bales. That means that it would take an average of 26.6 tries before a team found one flag. Although it could vary as flags are actually found, on average it would still stay roughly the same unless there was a "run on the bank". Sam with over 100 tries would have taken 4 times the average. Somebody has to be above average and others below average because that the way a random task works. It is hard to say how long it took to unroll each bale and get to the next one. My guess is that it was about 2 minutes per try. That means that the average time to complete would be about 53 minutes. Meghan reported 2 hours plus. Gary had 2 hours 45 minutes for his. Sam took longer than Meghan and probably longer than Matt. Maybe 3 hours? Big Easy took a short time and so did Brian.
In comparison to the AR6 Ep. 3 Lena effort, the original specs were for 20 clues in 270 bales with 9 teams. This time there were more bales and fewer clues when the number of teams were equalized. The statistics for the original ROADBLOCK were 7.4% hit rate, almost exactly twice the percentage for AR15 ep. 8. The number of bales were 30 per team originally and 37.2 for AR15. On any measure, AR15 Ep.8 was consdeirably tougher than the original.
Actually, just multiplying 7/186 to get your odds of success only works for a very small number of trials (like one trial #1 to be exact). The more accurate determination of the odds of finding a hay bale with a flag comes from consideration that the number of remaining hay bales is getting smaller with each successive trial.
Consider the probability of not getting a flag in the 1st hay bale: 1 - 7/186 = 0.9624 Then the probability of not getting a flag in the second hay bale is: 1 - 7/185 = 0.9622
But to get to that point we have to multiply the two probabilities. So the probability that no flag will be found after two tries is: (1 - 7/186)*(1 - 7/185) = 0.9260
Then the probability of not getting a flag in the third hay bale is: 1 - 7/184 = 0.9620
But to get to that point we have to multiply the three probabilities. So the probability that no flag will be found after three tries is: (1 - 7/186)*(1 - 7/185)*(1 - 7/184) = 0.8908
And so on and so on. The probabilities of not getting a flag after the first 100 tries is:
So you can see that the odds are better that 50% that a racer could find a flag after looking through 18 hay bales in tonight's show.
Doing the same analysis with season 6's twenty clues in 270 hay bales results in having to check only 9 hay bales.
So they had it easy back then. Though Lena may differ! :waves:
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Post by: Jobby on November 09, 2009, 05:34:45 AM
Nice statistics there!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: walkingpneumonia on November 09, 2009, 10:59:17 AM
Not sure if this was captured already - but the unused detour I believe was in Sigurdsristning: http://www.sim1.se/swe/mal/sigurd/sigurd_01.html
Still trying to find the exact location in GE
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Ruth on November 09, 2009, 11:37:44 AM
What a haybale of an episode!
Flight Time and Big Easy - Nice work there for the Globetrotters! I had a feeling they'd come in first when at the start of the leg, they mentioned that it was Flight Time's birthday and they'd really love to come in first. And they did! Big Easy made such quick time of the haybales, there really must be some birthday luck there, lol.
Meghan and Cheyne - I wouldn't have expected such a strong finish from them especially when they weren't working too well this leg, coupled with Meghan's struggle at the Roadblock. But wow, wow, wow! They still did so well, it's incredible. Loved the part when Meghan pretended that she was giving up, then showed Cheyne the flag. He was still in a blur state of mind! That was cute. It must have been the first time we've seen Meghan really annoyed with Cheyne, but I love it that Cheyne took it so patiently. This couple will go far, in the race and in life!
Brian and Ericka - I give Ericka some credit for going on that amusement park ride bravely. They worked really well this leg, and can I say that they're one of the luckiest teams I've ever seen? They always seem to surge ahead in these needle-in-a-haystack tasks, all the time! It was another unexpected strong finish this leg.
Sam and Dan - I was so annoyed when Dan wouldn't stop yelling at Sam while the latter was doing the Roadblock. Come on, did he think it was that easy to do it? And then there was a three hundred and sixty degree turn, and Dan all of a sudden became so encouraging. I admit that the pit-stop scene was endearing though, Dan feeling all remorseful and breaking down in tears. That was so awww. I hope that they'll be more loving and understanding towards each other in the subsequent legs!
Gary and Matt - I salute Gary and his perseverance! I mean, I didn't feel as hurt as I did seeing him struggle out there as compared to when Lena struggled out there, I just feel more strongly for girls. But he gets the credit for never giving up! And they were much luckier than Lena and Kristy, they did find the flag eventually! Gosh, I'm really starting to love this father and son team now, their relationship's just getting stronger and stronger each leg. :)
Brian and Ericka to win a leg, they're the only team left who hasn't done so. Go Brian and Ericka! :D
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: apskip on November 09, 2009, 06:01:42 PM
It's time for some statistics. The average probability of a hit with 7 flags and 186 bales is 3.76% per attempt assuming that all teams left no clues in their bales. That means that it would take an average of 26.6 tries before a team found one flag. Although it could vary as flags are actually found, on average it would still stay roughly the same unless there was a "run on the bank". Sam with over 100 tries would have taken 4 times the average. Somebody has to be above average and others below average because that the way a random task works. It is hard to say how long it took to unroll each bale and get to the next one. My guess is that it was about 2 minutes per try. That means that the average time to complete would be about 53 minutes. Meghan reported 2 hours plus. Gary had 2 hours 45 minutes for his. Sam took longer than Meghan and probably longer than Matt. Maybe 3 hours? Big Easy took a short time and so did Brian.
In comparison to the AR6 Ep. 3 Lena effort, the original specs were for 20 clues in 270 bales with 9 teams. This time there were more bales and fewer clues when the number of teams were equalized. The statistics for the original ROADBLOCK were 7.4% hit rate, almost exactly twice the percentage for AR15 ep. 8. The number of bales were 30 per team originally and 37.2 for AR15. On any measure, AR15 Ep.8 was consdeirably tougher than the original.
Actually, just multiplying 7/186 to get your odds of success only works for a very small number of trials (like one trial #1 to be exact). The more accurate determination of the odds of finding a hay bale with a flag comes from consideration that the number of remaining hay bales is getting smaller with each successive trial.
Consider the probability of not getting a flag in the 1st hay bale: 1 - 7/186 = 0.9624 Then the probability of not getting a flag in the second hay bale is: 1 - 7/185 = 0.9622
But to get to that point we have to multiply the two probabilities. So the probability that no flag will be found after two tries is: (1 - 7/186)*(1 - 7/185) = 0.9260
Then the probability of not getting a flag in the third hay bale is: 1 - 7/184 = 0.9620
But to get to that point we have to multiply the three probabilities. So the probability that no flag will be found after three tries is: (1 - 7/186)*(1 - 7/185)*(1 - 7/184) = 0.8908
And so on and so on. The probabilities of not getting a flag after the first 100 tries is:
So you can see that the odds are better that 50% that a racer could find a flag after looking through 18 hay bales in tonight's show.
Doing the same analysis with season 6's twenty clues in 270 hay bales results in having to check only 9 hay bales.
So they had it easy back then. Though Lena may differ! :waves:
Chateau, I think your approach is wrong. You cannot assume that there will be no hits at any point in the process. The real probability does vary a small amount ( as you have proved convincingly) when there is no hit and also when there is a hit, but on average it remains at 3.76% as long as the 5th cumulative hit is around cumulative try #133 (186 - 26.6 x 2). You can run a million accurate probability cases that prove nothing, but this information can be synthesized into something that makes sense and an approximation approach is the right way to go. The AVERAGE number of tries is still 26.6. Your 18 tries to have a higher than 50% probability is true, but so what? That does not mean that the average team will be done after 18 tries beacuse that is not so.
I obviously do agree with you that Lena had it easier than Gary.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: apskip on November 09, 2009, 06:25:32 PM
Skokloster Castle is located on Lake Mälaren between Stockholm and Uppsala. This is one of the Grand Baroque castles of Europe. It has to be located very close to the Bogs Gard Farm in Vasby.
By car From Stockholm: take the E18 for Oslo/Enköping, turning off at Bro onto the 269/263 and following the signs for Skokloster. This is only 70 km, but it will take you an hour or so. Alternatively you can follow the E4 northwards, leaving by the Märsta exit for the 263, which takes you past Sigtuna and from there to Skokloster and Enköping. After you leave the 263 for the Sko peninsula (Skohalvön) you drive for 12 km along a country road traversing historic ground and lined with runestones and lush farmland.
There is an interesting map which puts the above roads into perspective:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: cinelamour on November 09, 2009, 08:10:56 PM
http://www.bogsgard.se/
Bogsgard is in the Upplands Vasby, part of the Solletuna municipality of Stockholms county.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 09, 2009, 08:31:05 PM
Oh :jumpy: JOY!! That is the link I looked for forever!!
Thanks so much for sharing that!! And :welcome3: to RFF cinelamour!!
A map!! pictures of our field! A haybale!! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Chateau d If on November 10, 2009, 12:13:08 AM
Apskip, you're right, I should not assume there are no hits in the process. I was considering the process up to the first hit only. But, it is easy to adapt the analysis for many hits. What I've done is to adjust the number of remaining flags after each flag is found. So, for example, (1 - 7/167) gets replaced with (1 - 6/167) after the first flag is found. I let the flags be found at the 50% point of each sequence of tries.
So the way this works is any or all teams are opening haybales. After the 18th haybale is opened there is a flag (we're going by the 50% rule). Now there are 167 haybales left and 6 flags left. After 19 more haybales are opened someone finds a 2nd flag (still going by the 50% rule). Now there are 148 haybales left and 5 flags left. After 20 more haybales are opened someone finds a 3rd flag (still going by the 50% rule). Now there are 128 haybales left and 4 flags left. After 21 more haybales are opened someone finds a 4th flag (still going by the 50% rule). Now there are 107 haybales left and 3 flags left. After 23 more haybales are opened the last racer finds the 5th flag (still going by the 50% rule). Now there are 84 haybales left and 2 flags left.
As you can see the average number of tries that the 5 racers make is 101/5 = 20.2. I know that this result differs from your average of 26.6. I think this is a somewhat complicated statistical problem. Applying 186 divided by 7 (186/7 = 26.6) to the problem without further accommodations for the changing odds is too much of a simplification that leads to an incorrect result.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Blob on November 10, 2009, 01:35:46 AM
The ferry to Grona Lund goes takes only 5 minutes from Gamla Stand to Djurgarden Island. You can also get there from Slusseen Island in 8 minutes. Which one was correct for teams to get to Grona Lund? I don't know and may not be able to get appropraite information on this.
There are 5 different ferrylines, and dozens of stops around Stockholm
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Slowhatch on November 10, 2009, 09:26:56 AM
It would be interesting to know what their exact instructions were. Most teams took the regular Djurgarden ferry to Allmaana grand landing (seen here (http://www.360cities.net/image/djurg-rdskajen) next to Grona Lunds), but Brian/Ericka took a Hop on Hop off (http://www.stromma.se/en/Sightseeing/Stockholm/Boat-tours/Hop-on-Hop-off1/) sightseeing boat (which included free admission to GL!). Were they told to take a ferry or just a boat? And why no taxis?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: apskip on November 10, 2009, 10:21:52 AM
Slowhatch,
I again do not know for sure, but I am willing to hypothesize that no taxis were needed because the distance from the Arlanda Express to the dock is relatively short and could be done on foot if teams did not wish to take the tunnelbahn. Arland Express has a main station at Klarabergsviadukten 72. Here is a map of central Stockholm:
Central Stockholm Map (http://www.visit-stockholm.com/maps-stockholm/Innerstan60procent.jpg)
The place where the Arlanda Experss train arrives is near the label #53. The public transit network is shown below. It indicates that the Tunnelbahncan be taken from adjacent to Centralterminalen on the T-Centralen line one stop T-Gamla station to Slussen, where a short walk to the Djurgärdsfärjan ferry(dock marked #55 which is ont unique on the lower right of that island) will take them a few hundred yards mostly east to GronaLund.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: puddin on November 11, 2009, 12:45:24 AM
Maybe the Red X was red paint?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: gator27 on November 12, 2009, 10:36:55 AM
In between yelling at your brother about hay bales, you get bored and decide to paint a X on the bottom of your gnome because you are bored. As a hidden benefit, you tweaked a whole bunch of TAR spoilers.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Hooky on November 12, 2009, 11:13:15 AM
In between yelling at your brother about hay bales, you get bored and decide to paint a X on the bottom of your gnome because you are bored. As a hidden benefit, you tweaked a whole bunch of TAR spoilers.
:funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Slowhatch on November 12, 2009, 12:45:10 PM
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I again do not know for sure, but I am willing to hypothesize that no taxis were needed because the distance from the Arlanda Express to the dock is relatively short and could be done on foot if teams did not wish to take the tunnelbahn.
I was just curious about the absence of cabs in general: the only cab I saw in the episode was leading B/E to the detour. I was surprised the 4-pack didn't follow a cab as well, like they did at Groningen (the beginning of the end for Montana, I think). As far the boats go, all the teams took the Djurgarden ferry from Slussenterminal (left), except for B/E which took the HOHO boat from Nybroplan (right). The distance from Central Station is about the same, roughly 4/5 mile.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: Hooky on November 13, 2009, 07:10:55 PM
I'm happy the cabs are gone! :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: bearsfolife on November 14, 2009, 06:50:27 PM
Every time Dan screamed at Sam, I laughed my arse off. That was so funny. He just couldn't shut his mouth until like 2 hrs. later.
If I had been Sam, I woulda threatened to quit if Dan wouldn't quit being a nagging you know what.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: David on November 15, 2009, 10:02:19 AM
In between yelling at your brother about hay bales, you get bored and decide to paint a X on the bottom of your gnome because you are bored. As a hidden benefit, you tweaked a whole bunch of TAR spoilers.
I strongly think it was just glue to stick the clue in the base of the gnome... Sam & Dan unsticked it, and the glue could be seen?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 10:50:14 AM
I dunno theres something whanky with the gnomes, I've watched this episode 10 times or more and everyone's gnome base changes in different scenes.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: littlewop on November 15, 2009, 12:22:05 PM
I dunno theres something whanky with the gnomes, I've watched this episode 10 times or more and everyone's gnome base changes in different scenes.
I noticed that too. And the red X, was definetely bigger than the clue. IIRC didn't it run from edge to edge almost, and the clue didn't look like it did.
Could TPTB be messing with us???
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 12:34:20 PM
I think there was more than one gnome, as Luke has stated, if one breaks it is replaced. They were really pushing the gnome huh? They had to carry it to the detour for product placement when they could very well have left it in their cars.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: CountryT6905 on November 15, 2009, 02:20:43 PM
Every time Dan screamed at Sam, I laughed my arse off. That was so funny. He just couldn't shut his mouth until like 2 hrs. later.
If I had been Sam, I woulda threatened to quit if Dan wouldn't quit being a nagging you know what.
I think Sam was very patient his brother. Dan seems to be too much of a Princess. A 360 degree turn for the cameras. That's what I saw.
Point proved. He is bitching like a little girl tonight. Sam, knock the crap out of him. I think we all would love to see it.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: mswood on November 15, 2009, 08:29:39 PM
Well in fairness for the early half of the season Sam is the more vocal towards his brother and events of the race (at least by footage and clips).
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: apskip on November 15, 2009, 08:47:31 PM
In the Gary/Matt explosion scene, their gnome was shown unprotected (unlike all the prior teams). It somehow made it through the rain of exploded particles unscathed on the telecast, but what if in reality it was busted and had ot be replaced?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Life"
Post by: CountryT6905 on November 15, 2009, 09:10:31 PM