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Archive => RFF Archived Boards => The Amazing Race 12 Archive => Topic started by: puddin on July 09, 2007, 10:01:27 PM
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Contestants :
Ari Bonias and Staella Gianakakos/Best Friends (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,13777.0.html) -- Eliminated :yes:
Kate Lewis and Pat Hendrickson/Married Ministers (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,13780.0.html) -- Eliminated :yes:
Marianna Ruiz and Julia Ruiz/sisters (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,13778.0.html) -- Eliminated :yes:
Lorena Segura and Jason Widener/Dating (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,13775.0.html)-- :yes: Eliminated --Taiwan? (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg235640.html#msg235640) X
Shana Wall and Jennifer McCall/Friends (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,13773.0.html) -- Eliminated
* there were the girls who were wearing tight warm-up pants -- Burkina Faso (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg233588.html#msg233588)
*There were at least one F/F team. --Dubrovnik X
Azaria Azene and Hendekea Azene/ Brother & Sister (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,13774.0.html) --- Eliminated last of the final 6 out in (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg232476.html#msg232476) -- Dubrovnik (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg232437.html#msg232437) ? :yes:
Kynt Cothron and Vyxsin Fiala/Dating (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,13770.0.html) -- in the final 6 --Dubrovnik (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12522.0.html)-- Eliminated
Jennifer Parker and Nathan Hagstrom/Dating (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,13771.0.html)-- Taiwan? (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg235640.html#msg235640)-- Winners? (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg243458.html#msg243458) X eliminated :hides
Ronald Hsu and Christina Hsu/ Father & Daughter (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,13772.0.html)---in the final 6 --Dubrovnik (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg232437.html#msg232437) :yes:
Rachel Rosales and TK Erwin/Dating (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,13779.0.html) in the final 6 --Dubrovnik (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg234077.html#msg234077) --Taiwan? (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg235640.html#msg235640) :yes:
Nicolas Fulks and Donald Jerousek/Grandson-Grandfather (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,13776.0.html) in the final 6 --Dubrovnik (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg232437.html#msg232437)--Alaska?? (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12523.msg238617.html#msg238617) :yes:
* based on descriptions/sightings
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LAX to Ireland July 8-10th
Startline! Playboy Mansion (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12682.msg235274.html#msg235274) credits to Slowhatch and Kogs!
WAMgirl posts at Twop's (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=2666383&view=findpost&p=8663903) ,LAX, July 8th (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=2666383&view=findpost&p=8681781) to Ireland
*We were at LAX this July going on our honeymoon, and we met a team from the upcoming season. The team consisted of a younger guy and his grandfather. They were headed to Ireland and were looking for guidebooks and people to exchange dollars for euros on a one to one ratio.
More from WAMgirl here (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=efa1c91be1b970a26e1ff993520b6f11&showtopic=2666383&st=6195&p=8681781&#entry8681781).
more LAX:
Newbie tarrules00 posts at sucks: (http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/sreply/1940013/t/TAR-12-SPOILERS-and-nothing-but-SPOILERS-.html)
*i was IMing the other night with a friend who actually WORKS at LAX airport, she was there when the Amazing Race teams passed through and she got a clear look at all of the teams from very close proximity.
*she said that most of the teams were "standard" (yawn) Amazing Race teams - the dating couples, MACTORS, etc,but the team that struck her eye the most, by far, was a team consisting of two GOTH girls (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/misc/25Sep0010.jpg) . she got a great look at them and said they were absolutely beautiful, but not in the standard "mactor" kind of way!
Confirmed:
Joan Lyne (http://www.kerrycoco.ie/artsfilm/Joan%20Lyne%20CV%20_3_.pdf)
WORK EXPERIENCE
1. Location Co-Ordinator on Irish leg of American Reality TV Series “The
Amazing Race”, facilitated by Vision Independent Productions.
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Amsterdam, Netherlands July 11th
Two blogs mention seeing Amazing Race teams.
First blog (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg233185.html#msg233185):
*We just got done with a walking tour of Amsterdam. Unfortunately it was not as good as the Berlin tour but it was still very interesting. We think we saw some participants from the Amazing Race running through town with a cameraman and sound guy following close behind.
Next Blog (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://p-a-r-entesis.blogspot.com/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DViaje...continuacion%2By%2Bfin%2B%252B%2BActualizacion%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4GGIH_enUS207US208):
*I saw to 3 pairs that were competing in my reality favorite show “the amazing race”
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Burkina Faso, West Africa July 13th - 16th?
plurie (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=2666383&view=findpost&p=8353800) @ Twop's post's on July 16th:
*A friend of a coworker was recently on a flight to Burkina Faso with contestants and camera crews who claimed to be filming TAR. (He'd never seen the show, so he didn't know to ask any other questions.)
*According to my coworker, the contestants and camera crews were initially coy about what program they were working on, but eventually some of the contestants said it was TAR.
This blog (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg233588.html#msg233588) entry confirms Paris to Burkina Faso on July 13th
*We are happy to report that we and the Johnsons made it to Burkina Faso at around 5pm local time on Friday (1PM on the east coast).
*We arrived safely in Burkina Faso on July 13th
*Our biggest news of interest is that it appears that the Amazing Race teams and crew were on our plane from Paris to Burkina.
*We have no clue what they could find interesting to do in Burkina but we noticed the flight was very full and it turns out that there were 40-50 people on the plane associated with the production.
*We were sitting in Paris waiting to board and we kept seeing guys with really big video cameras, running up and then turning around to get video of two people coming towards them.
*We talked with a couple of people who said that they couldn’t say who they were with but they didn’t deny it either.
There is a chance that we are in the background of several shots at the Paris airport or on the plane.
Also, the SIM missionary from Ouaga who met us at the airport was definitely on camera giving directions to a team (Tim? & Don) who we had met and helped on the plane.
*Anyway, I think they are shooting for the fall or the spring and they said that they were in the middle of the race.
*There was at least one team that was “goth.” They had either dyed their hair pink or were wearing a wig.
*Several of the teams were not quite dressed appropriately to handle the heat or the cultural requirements, so it will be interesting to see what they do (there was a goth team (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/misc/25Sep0010.jpg) and the guy was wearing white face paint!).
*there were the girls who were wearing tight warm-up pants…very shocking to the conservative Burkinabe culture where women wear skirts and dresses that go below the knee in public.
*One of the contestants and his father were from Chicago and they sat across the aisle from us, so we got to talk to them a little bit
Slowhatch -- evidence for Burkina Faso (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,13733.msg235233.html#msg235233)
Slowhatch-- (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,13733.msg235968.html#msg235968) Dourtenga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Burkina-faso-dourtenga.jpg), southeast of Ouagadougou.
Slowhatch --It's Naba Koom (http://www.mairie-ouaga.bf/Vie%20Municipale/Placefemme.htm), located just outside the railway station.
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Vilnius and Kaunas *thanks to Boingo* (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,13733.msg236261.html#msg236261), Lithuania Date July 17th - 18th
puddin's speculation:
long shot--Vilnius, Lithuania (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trakai_National_Park)
CBS Press:
*This season, teams will travel approximately 50,000 miles, covering five new countries including Ireland, Lithuania and Croatia
(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/337/l296b4bd79bdbb45ce9585aww6.th.jpg) (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=l296b4bd79bdbb45ce9585aww6.jpg)*Trakai castle also from our image source*
(http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1236/indexqs4.th.jpg) (http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexqs4.jpg)(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9400/indexdz3.th.jpg) (http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexdz3.jpg) Rumsiskes Folk Museum, Kaunas, Lithuania (http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Rumsiskes/) *thanks to Boingo and our image source*
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Duprovnik, Croatia on July 19th
Big shout out to Eilan (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg234474.html#msg234474) for all the Amazing info and photo's throughout this thread :jam:
first brought to us by peach (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg205000.html#msg205000). Picture /Evidence in this thread (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg232437.html#msg232437)
peach:
*I had previously received (from an extremely reliable source) that Croatia was a very probable TAR 12 location.
*But based on my information and this information, I believe that there is a very good chance that this IS TAR 12 and not TARA. The dates of this sighting also coincide with the dates I was told.
peach adds : (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg232529.html#msg232529)
Okay, I have a bit more info on the teams.
*There were probably 6 to 7 teams seen.
*They came in a group of 3 or so, then one, then the rest.
*There were at least one F/F team. And at least one M/F team who were close in age so could have been boyfriend/girlfriend or brother/sister, etc. That team was in the middle of the pack.
"Vance" from Toronto-- LINK (http://tapeworthy.blogspot.com/2007/08/amazing-race-12-possible-spoiler.html)
*My friend may have just witnessed part of the race for the next season of The Amazing Race 12.
*My friend was in Duprovnik, Croatia on July 19th and saw groups of two's running followed by a camera.
* then we saw a camera man appear and then the two pple ran back the way they came and cameraman followed..
*it they also saw pple zip cording
*The one couple racing, that my friend remembers, was a dirty blond guy and a girl with dark hair and both were wearing green headbands.
Eilan @Twop's (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=2666383&view=findpost&p=8599469) :
*We were on holiday this summer and happened to see a leg being filmed. We spent the better part of the afternoon chatting with various crew members, and met and had a brief chat with one of the teams.
*I promised the crew/producers I wouldn't say anything, but I think I can confirm the spoiler from RFF that auntieB linked to above without quite breaking that promise. And the team we met were definitely Americans.
Slowhatch July 18th
Just one photo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bleary/1513065156/) in the album; a different part of Dubrovnik, but also a different date.
*The Amazing Race was filming while we were there in Dubrovnik!! We saw some camera men, but no teams.
*We were really excited anyway. We also talked to some people from England who didn't know what the show was, but told us they had seen two couples in row boats being videotaped.
*They weren't sure, but thought one couple (team) seemed to be doing well and the other (who they thought was male-female) was having a lot of difficulty.
Thanks to peach & Eilan, more picture/team evidence here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg234077.html#msg234077).
Slowhatch hits the motherload! Team pictures as well as zipline rigging--Here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg234514.html#msg234514) & Here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg234516.html#msg234516)!
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4108/23oct00082xl2.th.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=23oct00082xl2.jpg) Fort Canon
(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/834/l05791039ca17f643b0dac7ap5.th.jpg) (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=l05791039ca17f643b0dac7ap5.jpg)(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/995/sunsetec6.th.jpg) (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sunsetec6.jpg)
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Florence, Italy Date July 21-22?
Boingo -- Duomo of Florence, Italy (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,13733.msg235344.html#msg235344) :tup:
(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3221/italygx8.th.jpg) (http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=italygx8.jpg)
puddin
(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1406/23oct00052ur9.th.jpg) (http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=23oct00052ur9.jpg) (http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3209/bobolisunsetcw0.th.jpg) (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bobolisunsetcw0.jpg)Boboli Gardens.
(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3826/boboligardensin0.th.jpg) (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boboligardensin0.jpg)
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Mumbai, India date July 23-24
(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6649/30oct0014ye0.th.jpg) (http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=30oct0014ye0.jpg)(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5766/yogixq0.th.jpg) (http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=yogixq0.jpg)
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Osaka, Japan Date July ?
Boingo -- Osaka, Japan
China? I did hear about some "Asia's" or was that Cro-Asia? lol (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg213706.html#msg213706)
Lynn/Alex (http://laragmag.com/2007/08/14/amazing-race-12-is-at-the-starting-line-but-the-gun-wont-go-off/) make an unsubstantiated claim ("we also heard from a little bird") about China, thanks to Slowhatch. (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg213671.html#msg213671)
Boingo -- Osaka, Japan Kishiwada Castle (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12682.msg235262.html#msg235262) Osaka Clown (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12682.msg235236.html#msg235236)
Slowhatch --source page (http://picasaweb.google.com/akwawka/OsakaMay2007/photo#5098747894078333266)). It's somewhere in Osaka.
(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6519/23oct00022bn7.th.jpg) (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=23oct00022bn7.jpg)(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/579/23oct00042yo5.th.jpg) (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=23oct00042yo5.jpg)
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1528/23oct00092ir9.th.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=23oct00092ir9.jpg)(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3627/dudeyw4.th.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dudeyw4.jpg)
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Taipei, Taiwan Date July 26-27 ?
China? I did hear about some "Asia's" or was that Cro-Asia? lol (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg213706.html#msg213706)
Lynn/Alex (http://laragmag.com/2007/08/14/amazing-race-12-is-at-the-starting-line-but-the-gun-wont-go-off/) make an unsubstantiated claim ("we also heard from a little bird") about China, thanks to Slowhatch. (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg213671.html#msg213671)
Thank you to Newbie huholah (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg235640.html#msg235640)
*HEY I KNEW THEY WERE COMING TO TAIPEI:
*My friend told me that he thinks he saw teams on the amazing race approaching Taipei 101.
*So here it goes: around 26,27 of July as I remember- sorry I couldn’t remember the EXACT dates, he was shopping with his girlfriend in xin guang shan uiah beside Taipei 101.
*When he was planning to shop in 101 at noon, he saw this man and women (couples) ran out of the taxi and looked up at Taipei 101.
*He also saw 2 camera men running with them.
*However, he found it weird that the couples did not enter the Taipei 101 and were actually waiting for someone.
*He describes the couple as a brunette woman and a man. He said that the man seemed very athletic and fit.
*Since he saw that there were camera men around, he notices that this might be on TV.
*He continued to stay for 10 minutes and another group came which he describes as another couple which consists of a blond girl.
*He THINKS that there was an Asian team far behind or eliminated already because he was a good listener.
*When he was walking into Taipei 101, he was literally 2 feet away from the blond racer and he heard the girl say something like “I wonder what the Asians would say if they came to this place”.
*At first, I thought this was amazing race asia because I didn’t expect amazing race 12 to contain another asian team ever since the cho’s. Now after the official list of teams came out, I strongly believe my friend’s sightings because there were asian teams.
*He only saw 2 teams each holding a blue form on their hands.
*he thinks that Lorena and Jason were in but is not sure because he could only recognize the long hair.
*He says that he is not at all confident with what he saw with the second team.
*He jst notices a blond woman with a man(he didnt really see the man's face).
*He was pretty sure it was friday that he saw them because he was only advailables on fridays to go out.
*He said that he saw the first group heading the direction of getting to the top of 101-elevator. And the second group, he didnt see because when he walked into the building the second group was still outside(possibliy asking how to get up to the tower). I would assume there is a clue box up at the tower because I asked my frend if he saw anything else on the racer's hands, but he only saw a blue piece of paper..
*I'll ask my friend tomorrow......All I can say is..I think Taipei locatin was either 26th of July or 27th.....And since he only saw 2 teams on a spand of 10 minutes, it has to be a leg with very few teams because if it was one of the beginning legs, more than 2 teams would appear in a span of around 10 minutes.....
*my friend was not sure who he actually saw because it was 3 months ago.....he only THINKS its jenn/nathan because of the blunette hair of the woman -- huholah (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=5024)
Taiwan
(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6532/23oct00072yv5.th.jpg) (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=23oct00072yv5.jpg)schwarzmoor and Kogs -- Taipei Taiwan (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12682.msg235271.html#msg235271)
(http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/2356/01jan0007zs0.th.jpg) (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01jan0007zs0.jpg)Boingo --Taipei taxis
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1705/templeeb7.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=templeeb7.jpg)Boingo--- National Theater Concert Hall in Taipei, Taiwan
(http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/5781/11nov0016qc0.th.jpg) (http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11nov0016qc0.jpg) --Taipei 101
(http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/48/11nov0018pg5.th.jpg) (http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11nov0018pg5.jpg) Neobie: Danshui River biking trail in Taipei
(http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4737/01jan0001yy8.th.jpg) (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01jan0001yy8.jpg)Boingo: Sky lanterns, Taiwan
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Girdwood, Alaska on July 29th in this thread (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg217015.html#msg217015), first brought to us by anon1akacolby and PDF documents (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg225211.html#msg225211) posted by peach and the Amazing Race detectives.
anon1akacolby :
*I just received an IM from a co-worker asking me when the next TAR is going to be on.
*"yup, at least part of it was in alaska. 2 of the people who did tours my parents went on this past week particpated in part of it up there.
one was a guide up a glacier or something like that and one drove a boat up a river that was use."
*"girdwood was the city. she couldn't remember the name of the glacier."
*At first I took that to mean that alaska was on their way to the final destination. But I asked her if she meant that Alaska is
Possibly the final destination. **She said:
"i think so, she said she only remembers him mentioning 3 boats (not sure if it was 3 boats besides his or including his)."
peach:
*We know that the leg was filmed on July 29, 2007. (And since we also know that the race was completed no later than August 3 and probably a day or so earlier, that makes this one of the last possible legs.)
*The leg was filmed in the Chugach National Forest (http://www.fs.fed.us/r10/chugach/centennial/visitors/index.html) on the Twenty Mile River and on the Twenty Mile River Glacier.
*Teams travelled on the Twenty Mile River in boats provided by Glacier Jet, starting at Glacier Jets' launch site (http://www.glacierjetalaska.com/images/gallery/Strat%20of%20the%20Trip.JPG) (eyewitness source). See a sample river tour video HERE (http://alaska.org/videos-photos/videopop3.jsp?glacier_jet_medFL8.flv,glacier_jet_hiFL8.flv) (thanks Slowhatch for the links!). Sample River photos here (http://www.glacierjetalaska.com/photo_album.php).
*They did an ice climb on the Twenty Mile River Glacier with technical support provided by The Ascending Path (http://www.theascendingpath.com/). (link thanks to Colby!)
(http://i2.uploadem.com/09252007/th/2003622781965282799r2.jpg) (http://i2.uploadem.com/view/167691)(http://i2.uploadem.com/09252007/th/2003618251442329935r1.jpg) (http://i2.uploadem.com/view/167690)(http://i2.uploadem.com/09252007/th/2003924123209671728r3.jpg) (http://i2.uploadem.com/view/167692)
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Media
From the Jonathan Littman interview (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2007/07/cbs-party-offer.html): (thanks to Slowhatch)
Littman:
*"The Amazing Race": The Emmy-winning reality show is not on the fall schedule and will return later.
*"The countries are very exotic," Littman says.
*"We're going to a couple of places that I don't even know where they are on the map. I've had to go look them up."
*As for the teams? Lively.
*"This is a tough group," Littman says. "They'll be younger. We still have a good balance."
*The show will will do two fewer episdoes and drop the noneliminations to create more excitement.
CBS Press:
*"If there ever was a season that I consider one of the best, it's this one," said Bertram van Munster," executive producer, director and co-creator of THE AMAZING RACE. "It's insanely funny, fast-paced and dramatic all at once. Teams are in hot pursuit of one another at every location and its reality television at its nail-biting best."
*This season, teams will travel approximately 50,000 miles (or is that 30,000?), covering five new countries including Ireland, Lithuania and Croatia.
*This year's race includes stops in Croatia, Burkina Faso and Alaska and features the first-ever Goth team. --ocregister (http://www.ocregister.com/column/watcher-night-abc-1902241-fox-race)
RTVW (http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/the-amazing-race-producer-upcoming-twelfth-edition-is-nail-biter-6023.php)
* Doing away with non-elimination legs means there will also be no more penalties
*Ireland is one of five new countries The Amazing Race 12 filmed in, along with Croatia, Lithuania and two African countries with names that van Munster said most people can't pronounce.
*"It's very exciting to go to new locations because we have gone to places where people have never seen a television camera or have never seen television"
*The Amazing Race 12's course will span approximately 30,000 miles in 21 days, making it one of the shortest courses in the show's 12 seasons
ocregister (http://www.ocregister.com/column/watcher-night-abc-1902241-fox-race)
*This year's race includes stops in Croatia, Burkina Faso and Alaska and features the first-ever Goth team.
rockymountainnews (http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/movies/article/0,2792,DRMN_23_5735396,00.html)
*5 countries where The Amazing Race had never been will be featured in this season's trek, including Ireland, Lithuania and Croatia. Other locales include Burkina Faso, West Africa, and Taiwan.
AOL (http://television.aol.com/feature/amazing-race-12-preview)
*The show will crisscross the world, from Holland to India to Croatia, and head to a few off-the-beaten-track towns that will send viewers grabbing for their globes.
*"There are probably four places that the average person is going to hear and say, 'They're going where?' And they're going to have to get out a map to know where it is. They are very remote," said Bertram Van Munster, the other half of the executive producing team. "We hit most of the continents, except Antarctica."
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I found this:
http://twitter.com/SandersMusic
one of his entries says:
The Race is officially underway—1st batch of cues is delivered, and I just kicked out 4 more min.s for next week. In the zone! 11:01 PM July 16, 2007 from web
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received a tip:
Cast and crews left via airplanes between aprox. July 2-3rd .
puddin, I wonder if your tip really applied to Amazing Race Asia 2 because July 2-3 is when that race started.
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We'll I can't say to much but we are pretty sure its our race.
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Nice find, Michael! :gj:
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I have been informed that TAR 12 completed filming on or before August 3 -- and yes, I trust this information 100%.
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Thanks for the info, Peach. :tup: :tup:
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For further confirmation of our info that the race ended on or before 8/03--
Phil was spotted on the way home to Auckland-- (and being met by family...) yesterday.
A blog mention of a Phil spotting in Auckland (http://acurrie.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/nz-day-1/).
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An update on what we do and do not know so far:
Possible start date of July 1-3. (source: private info--puddin)
Definitive end to the race on or before August 3. (source: private info--peach)
July 19 Dubrovnik,Croatia leg: (95% sure based on separate three way confirmations) including eyewitness accounts reported by Vance from Toronto (http://tapeworthy.blogspot.com/2007/08/amazing-race-12-possible-spoiler.html), direct observation by Eilan (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=2666383&view=findpost&p=8599469), and private info (peach) of a TAR technical member working in Croatia on the above date. (more discussion starts HERE (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg205000.html#msg205000)).
July 29 Alaska leg: 100% confirmed more info here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg225211.html#msg225211)
Quite possible: Ireland with teams seen at LAX on July 8, based on eyewitness account by WAMgirl here (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=2666383&view=findpost&p=8663903) and here (http://). (secondary confirmation ie film permits,photos etc still needed)
Interesting but no further confirmation: Burkina Faso (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=2666383&view=findpost&p=8353800)
Now not believed to be true: Malaysia
Nothing but a rumor: China (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg213671.html#msg213671)
From the Jonathan Littman interview (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2007/07/cbs-party-offer.html): (thanks to Slowhatch)
"The Amazing Race": The Emmy-winning reality show is not on the fall schedule and will return later. "The countries are very exotic," Littman says. "We're going to a couple of places that I don't even know where they are on the map. I've had to go look them up."
As for the teams? Lively.
"This is a tough group," Littman says. "They'll be younger. We still have a good balance."
The show will will do two fewer episdoes and drop the noneliminations to create more excitement.
More contestant info to follow... ;)
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wow - I've been away for so long!
I can't believe we know all of this stuff already...I can't wait until the teams are revealed..
Thanks for the info peach :wohoo:
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Duprovnik, Croatia on July 19th (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg205000.html#msg205000), first brought to us by peach.
;) Hungry for some spoilers? Found something!!!!!!!!!!!!
Click Click Click the pictures for large pictures :
The Race!
As some of you may know, something absolutely incredible happened while we were in Dubrovnik, Croatia- we were on the set of The Amazing Race!! For avid fans like us, this was the ultimate experience.
It all started when the owner of our guesthouse told us about a rumour he had heard- something about the filming of a TV show that was to take place in the bay outside our seaview room window tomorrow. He thought it was 'fear factor', or something.
We decided to check out the view in the morning and this is what we saw...
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/th_1-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/1-1.jpg) It was initally covered up with a garbage bag, but we knew what that shape was... and soon a clue box was revealed in all its red and yellow glory!
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/th_2-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/2-1.jpg) Before too much longer a team came sprinting down an alley leading to the bay, followed by their crew- instructed to wait until their crew was ready before opening and reading their clue
Needless to say, we followed the making of the episode around the whole town and saw quite a few of the challenges. Not to give too much away, but here are a couple more glimpses of what we saw...
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/th_3.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/3.jpg) One of the teams completing a Roadblock ("a task that only one team member may perform") - that is the directors/producers (or at least someone importants) hand blocking Trent from taking a close up
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/th_4.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/4.jpg) And now here is Trent (the next day) re-living the challenge, something to do with reconstructing part of Dubrovnik's old walls
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/th_5-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/5-1.jpg) A young (but perhaps illegitimate Racer) tries to collect a clue
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/th_6.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/6.jpg) A fun looking flying fox from the old city walls into Dubrovnik's clear blue waters... would have been a cool relief as the temperature was pushing 40 degrees
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/th_7.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/7.jpg) And then a boat ride around the city walls... unfortunately this team got off to a tangled start as, unknown to them, they were still roped up to another boat
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/th_8.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/8.jpg) Looking back to our room from the citywalls, we saw another team arrive
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:jumpy: :yess: :gj: Congratulations! USA TAR, almost certainly. Was this from Vance?
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Zoom
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/misc/25Sep0009.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/misc/25Sep0010.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/misc/25Sep0011.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/misc/25Sep0012.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/misc/25Sep0013.jpg)
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Did you see Slowhatch! They are using the old fannypacks :yess: , therefore the "flag tags"
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/misc/25Sep0014.jpg)
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Whoo-Hoo!
Our first look at a TAR 12 challenge and teams!!
Oh Yay for puddin!!!
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Puddin, you rock! So now we know that they definitely go to Croatia.
Is anyone starting to piece some of this stuff together, possibly getting the race all spread out?
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You've got to hand it to the minders and security people: they keep a low profile. What's to keep that kid from running off with a clue? :lol:
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Red clue?? Roadblock? The wall thing?
And maybe a wedding ring?? Husband/wife??
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Notice the zipline--that is a no harness--hang on for dear life--oh my aching arm muscles zipline.... :lol:
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Nice work Puddin n' Peach :yess: :yess:
From your lead...
This shot was taken here from here between 5:58 and 6:10 pm (assumes July 19th)
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This shot was taken between 12:29 and 12:37 pm (assumes July 19th)
For the late team (above) it looks like an elimination vantage shot to me!
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Chateau is in the house :yess:
picture insert from TAR10 Ushuaia, Argentina thread (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg174561.html#msg174561), could be the same sound man?
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Are we sure it's not the asian version?
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Are we sure it's not the asian version?
Why would we think that? Pretty sure we've done our homework on this.
Check out this (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg205000.html#msg205000) and this (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg213706.html#msg213706) as well as the TARA2 video (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12553.msg219098.html#msg219098)
eta: Eilan at Twop (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=2666383&view=findpost&p=8599469) confirmed as well.
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Just want to be sure, I guess. They were both filming in Europe at around the same time, right?
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Just want to be sure, I guess. They were both filming in Europe at around the same time, right?
Exactly and I suppose they could have crossed (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg213891.html#msg213891)?
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I found a GE Panoramio shot that can help to locate the place of our spoiler shots.
By matching the profile of the rock in the background of this shot it looks like the wall building Roadblock takes place here.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/chateau/index.jpg)
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(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/chateau/3.jpg)
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Thanks Chateau! :wohoo:
Chateau times and beautiful pics! :hearts:
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So now the shadow from the corner can give the time.
This shot was taken here between 12:38 and 12:51 pm (assumes July 19th)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/chateau/4.jpg)
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I have been trying to get a location for the zipline and this may be a stretch, but I see some late-in-the-day shadows in this shot. Times to follow. The reason I think it is late in the day as opposed to early in the day is just because out photographer said they watched the box in the morning. So this shot had to come later on past noon. That helps me to pick where it was taken.
I found a Panoramio shot of a suitable TAR destination. It is some kind of diving spot too. It has a high place where the photographer could have taken the shots of the zipline and the boats by the raft. The sun is shining from the West on the team. They are headed to the main old port 'around the city walls'.
As Peach noted, no harnesses on the team. So they are always over safe, soft water. The zipline must go out to a large watercraft. They are told to ride out and drop!
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/chateau/1.jpg)
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(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/chateau/3-1.jpg)
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The shadow on this flotation barrel is as good as looking at a clock!
This shot was taken between 5:04 and 5:48 pm (assumes July 19th)
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The zipline must go out to a large watercraft.
Like this one?? :lol:
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Only if it moves.
Did you ever ask TAR10 teams about the copper hulled dhow in Kuwait City?
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No--refresh my memory? We talked about the unaired boat task in Mauritius though...
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Only if it moves.
Thanks to a link from Slowhatch--it moves! AND has "teambuilding" exercises!
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/chateau/peach1.jpg)
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There was an exit interview of Peter & Sara. They were sitting under the copper hull.
Puddin knows about it.
We should have asked Kentucky about it at TARcon.
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Oh yes! I remember that! But Peter went to the West Coast party and I don't think Sara was at TARcon either that season...
:ot: and now we are messing up our lean, mean spoiling machine here! :lol: PM me?
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Are we sure it's not the asian version?
the clue would have Asia on the envolop in silver if it was asia race
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Peach, your inbox is full, so I'll post the list here.
- Houston (http://filmhouston.texaswebhost.com/)
- DFW (http://www.filmdfw.com/permit_info.php)
- DC (http://www.film.dc.gov/film/site/default.asp?filmNav=|30703|)
- NYC (http://www.nyc.gov/html/film/html/office/office_home.shtml)
- Orlando (http://www.filmorlando.com/About%20Us/Contact%20Us/contactus.shtml)
Georgia doesn't require permits, but you need one in Atlanta if you're using a park.
Wherever it is, it has to be close to an international hub. TAR2 had the longest start-drive of any season (I think); I doubt if they'll make people drive that far again.
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Peach, your inbox is full, so I'll post the list here.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/millan/noooway.gif)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/millan/inboxsmiley.gif)
I hosted your attachments incase they get lost if your all wondering why your posts are edited :yaya:
Chateau :yourock:
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Three cheers for Chateau! This is going as smooth as clockwork here. I think we may have part of a leg figured out! Nice work, everyone!
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Okay, I have a bit more info on the teams.
There were probably 6 to 7 teams seen. They came in a group of 3 or so, then one, then the rest. There were was at least one F/F team. And at least one M/F team who were close in age so could have been boyfriend/girlfriend or brother/sister, etc. That team was in the middle of the pack.
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My grammar sucks at 3 AM! :lol3:
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I am going to speculate (oh my gosh) here since it is the right place to do so. The green cap and orange shirt team seen on the zipline and in the rowboat appear to be the grandfather/grandson team that was mentioned by the woman starting her honeymoon(WAMgirl) in LAX who saw the grandson begging for a 1:1 exchange rate on pounds for dollars so they could fly to Ireland.
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There were probably 6 to 7 teams seen. They came in a group of 3 or so, then one, then the rest. There were was at least one F/F team. And at least one M/F team who were close in age so could have been boyfriend/girlfriend or brother/sister, etc. That team was in the middle of the pack.
Nicely done, GP! :yess: Where'd you find this information?
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There were probably 6 to 7 teams seen. They came in a group of 3 or so, then one, then the rest. There were was at least one F/F team. And at least one M/F team who were close in age so could have been boyfriend/girlfriend or brother/sister, etc. That team was in the middle of the pack.
Nicely done, GP! :yess: Where'd you find this information?
A good detective never reveals His/Her source :dancer:
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Source? What source? :lol:
I "had a VISION!" :angel:
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I "had a VISION!" :angel:
Did your "vision" have any other legs in it? ;D
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This fits in with our lady with the pink hat :)
Newbie tarrules00 posts at sucks: (http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/sreply/1940013/t/TAR-12-SPOILERS-and-nothing-but-SPOILERS-.html)
i was IMing the other night with a friend who actually WORKS at LAX airport, she was there when the Amazing Race teams passed through and she got a clear look at all of the teams from very close proximity. she said that most of the teams were "standard" (yawn) Amazing Race teams - the dating couples, MACTORS, etc,but the team that struck her eye the most, by far, was a team consisting of two GOTH girls. she got a great look at them and said they were absolutely beautiful, but not in the standard "mactor" kind of way! i certainly hoped this was true, and by the looks of the girl in the spoiler pics with the BLACK hair, BLACK dress, and pink hat, it looks like my friend has come through with some NEW info! it's great to see the new photos and see different people represented on the show. i think i have a FAVORITE team for Amazing Race 12 already and i haven't even seen a single episode
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OK so....a F/F team that sounds like the opposite of Dustin and Kandice ... I don't know how I feel about a goth girl team :'(
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I thought she looked more Emo. Oh well, showing my age I guess... :grins:
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Hell I didn't even know what "emo" was Slowhatch so I googled it ;)
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Well, as near as I can tell, it looks like team Goth is in second place in Dubrovnik. Pretty good for a couple of girls ;D ;)
And their second place is just a few minutes from the first place team.
I put my comparison out and say she reminded me of Abby on NCIS.
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Watch it Chateau! :knuckles: Couple of girls indeed!
But great match with Abby! :lol: Hmmm...where is SHE lately??
And boy, I'm not far from a punk/gothic hotspot (or used to be one) but I had to Google EMO too! :lol3:
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And I like the little pink skulls with cross bones going across her shirt.
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Oh boy! We can use our Pirate Master smileys again!
:jolly
Hope the girls are as much fun as they look!
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2nd?! I hope this season has another kick ass F/F team.
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Yes, I would love to see another strong all female team. And I think its a great plus, that they don't appear to meet the media's idea an ideal attractive women.
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Are we sure it's not the asian version?
the clue would have Asia on the envolop in silver if it was asia race
Kogs is right I was wrong, I was looking through TARA1 photos and yeah some of them did use the TAR flagged fanny pouch.
:tup: to Kogs
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Yes, I would love to see another strong all female team. And I think its a great plus, that they don't appear to meet the media's idea an ideal attractive women.
Agreed. I think I could like them.
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reposting this here
:jumpy:
posted on 14 July 2007 (http://www.ergatai.com/wp/?p=269)
Our biggest news of interest is that it appears that the Amazing Race teams and crew were on our plane from Paris to Burkina.
We have no clue what they could find interesting to do in Burkina but we noticed the flight was very full and it turns out that there were 40-50 people on the plane associated with the production. We were sitting in Paris waiting to board and we kept seeing guys with really big video cameras, running up and then turning around to get video of two people coming towards them.
We talked with a couple of people who said that they couldn’t say who they were with but they didn’t deny it either.
There is a chance that we are in the background of several shots at the Paris airport or on the plane.
Also, the SIM missionary from Ouaga who met us at the airport was definitely on camera giving directions to a team (Tim? & Don) who we had met and helped on the plane.
Anyway, I think they are shooting for the fall or the spring and they said that they were in the middle of the race. If anyone could record it for us, that would be great. I’m sure there would be some interesting things about Burkina and you might get to see a little bit of our airport and what it’s like to arrive here.
Several of the teams were not quite dressed appropriately to handle the heat or the cultural requirements, so it will be interesting to see what they do (there was a goth team and the guy was wearing white face paint!).
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BS?
This fits in with our lady with the pink hat :)
Newbie tarrules00 posts at sucks: (http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/sreply/1940013/t/TAR-12-SPOILERS-and-nothing-but-SPOILERS-.html)
i was IMing the other night with a friend who actually WORKS at LAX airport, she was there when the Amazing Race teams passed through and she got a clear look at all of the teams from very close proximity. she said that most of the teams were "standard" (yawn) Amazing Race teams - the dating couples, MACTORS, etc,but the team that struck her eye the most, by far, was a team consisting of two GOTH girls. she got a great look at them and said they were absolutely beautiful, but not in the standard "mactor" kind of way! i certainly hoped this was true, and by the looks of the girl in the spoiler pics with the BLACK hair, BLACK dress, and pink hat, it looks like my friend has come through with some NEW info! it's great to see the new photos and see different people represented on the show. i think i have a FAVORITE team for Amazing Race 12 already and i haven't even seen a single episode
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:wohoo: :jumpy: :yess:
The Blog Queen Rules! Another Fabulous Find! :happy:
That blog appears to be from the Walshes, who also said:
We are happy to report that we and the Johnsons made it to Burkina Faso at around 5pm local time on Friday (1PM on the east coast). It was in the mid 90’s and very humid.
That would have been on Friday July 13th.
So with that info, can we identify the carrier and the flight?? I'll bet so!
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I'll put it here too since it's real.
Air France #732
Do they have any more pictures?
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Well, that was fast! :lol: Who needs seat covers, right?
Sadly, that seems to be it for the in flight photos...
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Hereis a little from their write up: It's a Dad & son team! I like that.
One of the contestants and his father were from Chicago and they sat across the aisle from us, so we got to
talk to them a little bit.
And this: "tight warm-up pants" It's sounding better all the time
There was at least one team that was “goth.” They had either dyed their
hair pink or were wearing a wig (couldn’t tell from where I was standing) and were wearing white face paint. You couldn’t tell the
gender of the person very well, either, and I kept thinking that they looked very hot and ridiculous. Then, there were the girls who
were wearing tight warm-up pants…very shocking to the conservative Burkinabe culture where women wear skirts and dresses that go
below the knee in public.
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I may be guessing a little but...
Meet Tim and Don from Chicago:
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What about this?/
the layover in Paris and the stop we made in Niamey, Niger to drop off some passengers .............. Still, that’s pretty good for having traveled a total of 18 hours.
and more:
On the flight from Paris to Niamey/Ouagadougu, we noticed a TV crew that kept
filming different odd things at the airport and on the plane. Turns out that they were filming a
“race” of some sort. They weren’t allowed to tell us if it was THE race (the Amazing Race),
but unless there’s going to be a spin-off sometime soon, I’d bet on it. So, who knows…we
may end up in the background of some shots that make it onto the TV footage.:0) One of the
contestants and his father were from Chicago and they sat across the aisle from us, so we got to
talk to them a little bit. We were surprised that the show would send the contestants to Burkina – there’s not much here and it’s not
well known – but on second thought, I guess that makes sense.:0) So, whenever the next season of the Amazing Race airs, make sure
you watch it! I believe there’s a season currently running, so it may not be ‘til this fall/winter or maybe next spring. Aside from
looking for us, the missionary stars on the show, it’ll be interesting to see what they show of Burkina Faso, and to see some of the
contestants as well. It was amusing, standing in the line for passport check in the airport and seeing some of the…costumes…I’m sure
the Burkinabe were amused and maybe even shocked, too. There was at least one team that was “goth.” They had either dyed their
hair pink or were wearing a wig (couldn’t tell from where I was standing) and were wearing white face paint. You couldn’t tell the
gender of the person very well, either, and I kept thinking that they looked very hot and ridiculous. Then, there were the girls who
were wearing tight warm-up pants…very shocking to the conservative Burkinabe culture where women wear skirts and dresses that go
below the knee in public.
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A conservative view of AR12 stops is as follows:
July 3 or earlier ? to Belize City
July 5 Belize City to San Salvador or northwest Mexico
July 8 San Salvador or northwest Mexico to Los Angeles
July 10 Dublin to Amsterdam
July 12 REST DAY
July 13 Amsterdam to Paris CDG (possibly by train)
CDG to Ougadougou, Burkina Faso
July 15 OUA to ?
July 17 REST DAY
July 18 ? to Dubrovnik
July 20 Dubrovnik to Vilnius, Lithuania
July 22 to 29 Who Knows?
July 29 Girdwood Alaska
August 1 or 2 FINAL DESTINATION CITY
I've listed 10 destinations above and there can be a maximum of 11 according to the statements by CBS. If there are any TBCs, each one will probably mean one less destination. A 7 day period is a long time for one or no new destinations. I find this problematical.
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I'm going to speculate too that since that flight leaves at 10:53 AM on the 13th--and knowing what a nightmare CDG is--I think 7/12 will be used in part for travel to Paris so that they will be there in plenty of time.
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okay--a little more info on Ireland.
So far, our Ireland spoiler has been based on an airport sighting and conversation heard by Wamgirl in LAX on July 8.
While we don't yet have any permit or photogaphic evidence for Ireland, I believe teams may have gone via Dublin and may have done tasks in County Wicklow.
I have spoken personally to several people in official positions around Ireland asking for filming information, and in one of those locations I was told that "hmmmmm...., I see that we were asked to keep that information confidential, so I will be unable to release that info."
So is a miss as good as a hit? :lol: Y'all can decide!
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And now about LAX.
Slowhatch, puddin, kogs and I have have been working behind the scenes in an attempt to track down our teams for some time.
We can now tell you that we do have confirmation by LAX that filming was done there by WRP.
But even more interesting is what we don't have.
After hours on the phone with various officials in the film world, and a site visit by Slowhatch to EIDC, we do NOT have any evidence that film permits were obtained for LA, and have in fact been told that no permits were issued.
I have also been assured that there was no support arranged with/by the CHP, who would have been involved had the teams been on the highways.
All of these conversations have been with the people who either issue the permits or would have known had a permit been issued.
What does this mean? Well, if we believe these assurances, and I have no reason to think otherwise, then LA could not have been the start city. No permits--no filming.
So how did teams get to LAX and why were they seen in an Internationl Terminal?
The most obvious answer is that they were in transit thru LAX from somewhere else, and the start city has yet to be found.
This also fits with our earlier possible start dates of July 1-3, and new reports of team sightings in Belize.
For completeness sake, I can also tell you that Boston, Baltimore, Annapolis, Chicago and Houston and Houston airport have all been pretty much ruled out as well, although it is important to remember that that refers to within the city limits of those cities ONLY.
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I didn't help at all with LAX peachs, that was all you, Slowhatch & Kogs :kuss:
And I'm looking through County Wicklow pictures and it is simply breathtaking :jumpy:! Good job peachs !!!
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And now about LAX.
Slowhatch, puddin, kogs and I have have been working behind the scenes in an attempt to track down our teams for some time.
We can now tell you that we do have confirmation by LAX that filming was done there by WRP.
But even more interesting is what we don't have.
After hours on the phone with various officials in the film world, and a site visit by Slowhatch to EIDC, we do NOT have any evidence that film permits were obtained for LA, and have in fact been told that no permits were issued.
I have also been assured that there was no support arranged with/by the CHP, who would have been involved had the teams been on the highways.
All of these conversations have been with the people who either issue the permits or would have known had a permit been issued.
What does this mean? Well, if we believe these assurances, and I have no reason to think otherwise, then LA could not have been the start city. No permits--no filming.
So how did teams get to LAX and why were they seen in an Internationl Terminal?
The most obvious answer is that they were in transit thru LAX from somewhere else, and the start city has yet to be found.
This also fits with our earlier possible start dates of July 1-3, and new reports of team sightings in Belize.
For completeness sake, I can also tell you that Boston, Baltimore, Annapolis, Chicago and Houston and Houston airport have all been pretty much ruled out as well, although it is important to remember that that refers to within the city limits of those cities ONLY.
We still can not overlook the possibility that the teams were all flown independently to Belize City or Mexico and upon arrival began the Race there which would account for no USofA airport sightings. If teams flew independently without camera crews shooting they could very easily slip through our nets.
Agree that the sighting in LAX Interntional terminal was that of a transition site between arriving from Mexico and getting on Aer Lingus flight to Dublin. No shooting in LAX so no film permits required.
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And now about LAX.
Slowhatch, puddin, kogs and I have have been working behind the scenes in an attempt to track down our teams for some time.
We can now tell you that we do have confirmation by LAX that filming was done there by WRP.
But even more interesting is what we don't have.
After hours on the phone with various officials in the film world, and a site visit by Slowhatch to EIDC, we do NOT have any evidence that film permits were obtained for LA, and have in fact been told that no permits were issued.
I have also been assured that there was no support arranged with/by the CHP, who would have been involved had the teams been on the highways.
All of these conversations have been with the people who either issue the permits or would have known had a permit been issued.
What does this mean? Well, if we believe these assurances, and I have no reason to think otherwise, then LA could not have been the start city. No permits--no filming.
So how did teams get to LAX and why were they seen in an Internationl Terminal?
The most obvious answer is that they were in transit thru LAX from somewhere else, and the start city has yet to be found.
This also fits with our earlier possible start dates of July 1-3, and new reports of team sightings in Belize.
For completeness sake, I can also tell you that Boston, Baltimore, Annapolis, Chicago and Houston and Houston airport have all been pretty much ruled out as well, although it is important to remember that that refers to within the city limits of those cities ONLY.
We still can not overlook the possibility that the teams were all flown independently to Belize City or Mexico and upon arrival began the Race there which would account for no USofA airport sightings. If teams flew independently without camera crews shooting they could very easily slip through our nets.
Agree that the sighting in LAX Interntional terminal was that of a transition site between arriving from Mexico and getting on Aer Lingus flight to Dublin. No shooting in LAX so no film permits required.
or they started in a small city away from a major airport and then made a connection to goto the first city
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No shooting in LAX so no film permits required.
LAX requires an airport film permit for filming done there and one was issued.
As best as we know however, there were no film permits issued for LA itself.
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Just one photo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bleary/1513065156/) in the album; a different part of Dubrovnik, but also a different date.
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Just one photo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bleary/1513065156/) in the album; a different part of Dubrovnik, but also a different date.
:yess: Nice find Slowhatch! updated on page 1.
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St. John's fortress (http://galenfrysinger.us/gc09/dubrovnik1047.jpg)
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Hey ...
Joan Lyne (http://www.kerrycoco.ie/artsfilm/Joan%20Lyne%20CV%20_3_.pdf)
WORK EXPERIENCE
1. Location Co-Ordinator on Irish leg of American Reality TV Series “The
Amazing Race”, facilitated by Vision Independent Productions.
Vision Independent Productions. (http://www.visionindependentproductions.com/)
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:yess: :jumpy: :wohoo: :tup: :gj: Nice! Ireland's solid.
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Oh Slowhatch! peach will be so happy :hearts:
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Oh Slowhatch! peach will be so happy :hearts:
:jumpy: for joy! Oh great job! Heee...I believed!!
Now...notice that a lot of her experience is in Kerry (http://www.kerry-insight.com/info/towns.html) where there is The Ring of Kerry Drive (http://www.lakehotel.com/Ring_of_kerry.htm) and The Dingle Peninsula (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/03/photogalleries/irish/photo3.html)--two of my most favorite places!!
West Coast Ireland...now that would be spectacular!
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I too grasped the significance of Kerry when seeing Joan Lyne's background. On the surface that would appear to favor Shannon airport as the arrival airport for The Amazing Race. However, Ireland is so compact that even from Dublin airport there would be only a 2.5 hour disadvantage in getting to southwestern Ireland. Also, the disadvantages and extra flying time to connect anywhere to get into Shannon would still argue for arriving in Dublin airport on the nonstop from LAX cited in one of my previous posts.
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I too grasped the significance of Kerry when seeing Joan Lyne's background. On the surface that would appear to favor Shannon airport as the arrival airport for The Amazing Race. However, Ireland is so compact that even from Dublin airport there would be only a 2.5 hour disadvantage in getting to southwestern Ireland. Also, the disadvantages and extra flying time to connect anywhere to get into Shannon would still argue for arriving in Dublin airport on the nonstop from LAX cited in one of my previous posts.
I am glad to see that TPTB finally followed our suggestion of a leg in Ireland. How long ago did we first suggest the Irish countryside as a TAR location? At least three or four TARs ago.
Where else should we be pushing: Prague, Transylvania, Ukraine?
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AR10 went to Kiev, Ukraine, but Prague is long overdue (although ARA2 has just gone there) and Transylvania could be interesting. The way back from Ouagadougou to Dubrovnik has not been determined yet, so Bucharest is a possible stop (although one of about 100 such possibilities).
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:wohoo:
I'm proud to introduce the next team in the line-up for TAR 12!
We're calling them the Green-Headband team until we can get some real names.
But here they are doing tasks in Dubrovnik.
He is tall with reddish hair and she is tiny but quite strong!
The crew guy apparently works for Embassy Films (http://embassyfilms.com/flash/index.html).
( and thanks to puddin for help with the pretty thumbnails and for the embassy link!)
Pictures are thumbnails--click for the large economy size!!
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/th_img0149.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/img0149.jpg)
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I didn't do anything peach! It was your hard work :thankyou:
:wohoo:
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The green headrags match the description, so redhead="dirty blond."
Just a little more resolution, and we could have read the Detour card. ;D
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I have been trying all day to read that! :lol: I've asked someone else to try too....
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Scratching my head over this one too!
But it's definitely a typical "[verb] It" versus "[verb] It" Detour... They're not too creative with regards to naming Detours after "Freak Out" and "Seek Out" eh?
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Well--thanks to kogs we at least have it right side up!
(http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/29323/2000379243204442928_rs.jpg)
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:jumpy:
Great shots Peach. You've done it again!
I finally got locations for them: Very close to the other shots of cluebox and Roadblock.
Note that I added in the placement of the zipline. The team that was shown on it and then shown in row boats had to have wasted a lot of time getting into the boats.
Times to follow.
GE Croatia locations zip.jpg
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/chateau/index-13.jpg)
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It's possible that the zipline could have gone like this.
This new orientation would explain why the zipline does not show up in the shot of the Goth team doing the Raodblock.
GE Croatia locations zip2.jpg
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/chateau/index-12.jpg)
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What took peach :hugs: and I hours to find probably took you 10 minutes Chateau :jam:
fwiw~
Bokar fortress and the Lovrijenac on the right background
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Bokar fortress
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Thank you Chateau for those!
I think I like the first zip line--how long can one be before it sags in the middle?? :lol:
We don't want late zipliners knocking over the clue box! :snicker:
And beautiful pictures puddin! Really shows the place well!
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Thanks Puddin, but actually I was stumped for quite a while by this.
Don't you wonder how our photographer got this shot? Did someone hold their heels?
spoiler looking down.jpg
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/chateau/index-11.jpg)
tourist view of wall.jpg
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Here is another view of Bokar Fortress.
And Chateau--could our zipline go here--or is it too far?
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/chateau/index-10.jpg)
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Yes, I think that looks like the best place.
One thing that kept me from liking it is that I thought the lines should appear in this shot of the Goth team dong the wall building Roadblock.
But I suppose the lines may have been too high for the frame, or just out of focus.
view of Roadblock location.jpg
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/chateau/index-9.jpg)
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I really need to know where that raft was when they were going off in the row boat. :(
It was taken either 8:30 to 9:30 AM or 4:30 to 5:30 PM.
The current best guess of where the zipline goes argues for the PM time due to the sunshine on their backs as they zip down from the old fort.
GE Croatia locations zip3.jpg
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/chateau/index-8.jpg)
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For the skeptics ;)
You can kind of see the round steps when you zoom in on the shot.
Also, remember they are opening the Roadblock clue at that cluebox that is nearby.
view of Roadblock location2.jpg
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/chateau/index-7.jpg)
croatia spoiler early team.jpg
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Okay... :hearts: I have a fair bit more info on the team above, how they were doing, some on the other teams, and more on the task itself.
On the TEAM: (until we know their names, let's call them GHB {Green-Headband team} for short)
** He had red hair, and she was a tiny (but strong) brunette.
** Assumed to be boyfriend/girlfriend, as they were close in age, but they could be brother/sister.
What about the other teams?
** also seen were a M/F and a F/F team (plus we have other team photo evidence from puddin's discovery)
** there were either 6 or 7 teams left
** there were a group of 3 teams (who caught the earliest flight) that arrived first
** That group included the Goths
** then Team GHB
** then either 2 or 3 further teams arrived about an hour later.
How was Team GHB doing at that point?
**they had been in first place the day before, then missed their flight connection by 5 minutes.
**Their cab driver took them to Cluebox # 2 location first by mistake, making them even later.
**They were now somewhere in the middle, but closer to the last group of teams than the first, and probably did not know the other group was that close behind
them.
On the TASK:
** (order of tasks is not entirely clear, but based on the fact that team GHB were taken to the "wrong" location first, it is presumed that the following is correct)
** First Cluebox was near the base of the Fort (that would be here)
(http://aycu27.webshots.com/image/32066/2002195528361184607_rs.jpg) Roadblock card? (http://aycu28.webshots.com/image/29427/2005912828811262336_rs.jpg)
(Roadblock may come first here) (10/16)
** From the clue box they next run up the hill (stairs in picture) to the Fort and do the zipline.
**All teams do the zipline not clear at this time--there appears to be TWO ziplines (10/16)
(http://aycu39.webshots.com/image/29158/2002101283501609050_rs.jpg) Thumbnail--click me! (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/th_img0149.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/img0149.jpg)
** Zipline went from the Fort and then hooked up to one of the towers on the city walls.
(http://aycu26.webshots.com/image/30505/2005192808400860652_rs.jpg)
Next the Detour:
**sign seen with two arrows, names of tasks not recalled.
** teams either did a task we can call for now: " ROW it " or "ROPE" it
** GHB team rappelled down the side of the walls, then waded over to another section of the wall and climbed up using rope ladders.
** picture of GHB team woman is after she has climbed up onto the wall via the rope ladder and while she and the crew guys are waiting for her partner to finish his climb
thumbnail--click me! (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/th_img0179.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/img0179.jpg)
** it is then thought that teams may have gone to the other cluebox at the port but this is not clear--other cluebox could be something with rowboats?
(http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/32041/2002997437328629749_rs.jpg)
** It is thought that Roadblock task followed the Detour/Wall Climb not clear at this time (10/16)
What happened next??
** on a predawn flight Dubrovnik--Zagreb on July 20: There were a number of crew on the flight, recognized from tasks on July 20, including one who may have been a producer. They made an ongoing connection in Zagreb. (possible Croatian Air #319 depart 6:25 AM arr 7:20 AM)
** There were NO teams on that flight or seen in the airport at that hour.
Thanks to puddin for this MAP which we thinks shows the possible task locations--and for Chateau's great location work seen above!
(http://aycu16.webshots.com/image/31815/2002189079368951339_rs.jpg)
and just for fun--look hard and you can see:
(http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/30242/2005159314399767337_rs.jpg)
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A photo of Fort Bokar (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tripoverseas/1089835051/in/set-72157601382322656/) taken on 20 July showing some kind of rigging/scaffolding. For a zipline? For a concert? I don't know.
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COOL! Another great find!
I'll ask....
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Could these wires be our actual zipline?
For sure!
I think the rigging structures that Slowhatch found on the two towers are in the right places but they both look too weak for a zipline that is up to TAR standards.
They usually use the welded box structures. Very Beefy.
(http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race5/show/episode01/photos/ep01_26.jpg)
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The only thing with that is that the date of July 19 is definite.
Scaffolding could of course be still there on 7/20 or camera date could be funky.
This kind of box, Chateau?
Dubr--box welding.jpg
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/chateau/index-6.jpg)
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And Chateau--did your pic of the Roadblock location come with a date on it?
Because looks like there was some wall building going on there for sure!
Dubr wall building.jpg
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/chateau/index-5.jpg)
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Yea, and that is there just for climbing a silly rope ladder!
To hold 400+ pounds up on cables stretched over 386 feet (I just measure the span using Google Earth) is going to be a really impressive piece of engineering.
But the clue box by Fort Revelin is very puzzling. All tasks are done when the rowers arrive at the docks or the ropers arrive over land. Is it a general TAR rule that every clue that tells teams to go to the Pit Stop comes from a task such as a Roadblock or a Detour?
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The picture was from you!
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From me? ummmmm.....
I have no clue!
There are 2 pictures sets--one from puddin with cluebox arrivals
one from me of GHB team
where is that house picture? :lol:
Did see this though! from puddin's set...
Dubrov wall building maybe.jpg
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/chateau/index-4.jpg)
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From Puddin's set of pix, I get the impression that the wall building was done to the other side. There is a shot of Trent at the wall.
I don't know why the wall is being supported by a wooden frame.
Maybe the extra thickness of the wall at that spot was done just for the TAR task. Tourists shots from later on may show the added parts gone.
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here is Wall building reenactment the next day...from puddins set
Here is YOUR picture of harbour--now where did that come from? :lol3:
DUBROV wall building re-enactment.jpg
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/chateau/index-3.jpg)
Dubrov --view of Roadblock location.jpg
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NEVERMIND!!! I just found it in puddins source photos!
thank goodness--I thought I had lost my mind! :rotf:
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Oh and I nearly forgot the BEST site!!
Go to this site>>look for this map>>click on marked spots and you get a beautiful panoramic tour! And you can pause and zoom in and everything!
http://www.tzdubrovnik.hr/virtualtours.shtml#
Just like being there....well--almost! :lol:
(http://aycu24.webshots.com/image/30623/2004445499188864436_rs.jpg)
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And Vance's original sighting does report people in the center of the Old Town as well--so we have that to look forward to as well!
Her husband was waiting in the center of the old city and he saw pple running down the street with cameramen following along and he also saw cameramen and others with walky-talkys tracking other pple and talking btwn eachother with directions that pple were running.
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I really need to know where that raft was when they were going off in the row boat. :(
It was taken either 8:30 to 9:30 AM or 4:30 to 5:30 PM.
The current best guess of where the zipline goes argues for the PM time due to the sunshine on their backs as they zip down from the old fort.
well I found (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=887017858&size=l) the raft, at least we know it wasn't put there by the crews :lol:~
Beautiful view from Dubrovnik city walls - Croatia
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Here is where I think the raft was. South of the City Wall Tower. This location gives the right sun angles to match the above shot for end-of-day sun.
GE Croatia locations zip4 raft
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New Pictures! :hearts: Now we can perfectly see how the task progressed! :wohoo:
THUMBNAILS--click-click!!
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more coming...
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Overall View:
(http://aycu08.webshots.com/image/29967/2002689288615008794_rs.jpg)
Close up view of Zipline ending point
(http://aycu33.webshots.com/image/31352/2002655919453286570_rs.jpg)
Close up view of the Rope Ladder
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But LOOK at this!
This zipline is a lean onto and in a harness Zipline!
(http://aycu30.webshots.com/image/29309/2002625262475371559_rs.jpg)
And this one is a hang by your wrists Zipline!
(http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/36819/2000685052758386859_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000685052758386859)
They look like entirely different zipline set-ups to me!
So...does each Detour have its own Zipline?? ???
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and these inserts (thank you puddin!) show Slowhatch's scaffolding with that of the task. Looks like a match to me! :yess:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/peachs.jpg)
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And just in case you were wondering ;) ---How DID they get that shot? Here you go! (or something almost like this!)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/peach.jpg)
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Great find peach!
I'm impressed :jumpy:
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Thanks Michael!
But really, I am being saved by an :angel: !
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Did I say good job peach! You have earned your freedom and are saved!!
Thanks to Slowhatch --flickr batch dated July 20th (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1089825107&context=photostream&size=l)
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Oh so NICE Slowhatch! I had been all through that set--I remember "Mum" --but never even came close to seeing that! Good pickup! And eyes! :lol3:
And speaking of eyes--here is a close up!
(http://aycu33.webshots.com/image/31072/2004317604996973876_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004317604996973876)
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Not me! Puddin found it; I missed the second rigging as well. :-[
(It makes a bit of puzzle out of this viewpoint. Top of the steps area, maybe?)
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Not me! Puddin found it; I missed the second rigging as well. :-[
(It makes a bit of puzzle out of this viewpoint. Top of the steps area, maybe?)
Well good job puddin :hearts:--sorry--I thought it was your find Slowhatch.
This whole zipline thing is making me nutso.
The first set of spoiler pics that we have which includes this M/M team are all taken over by the tasks--same location as our zipline. . BUT--look at the rigging--this is a totally different set up. Would there be a different setup entirely based on weight or something? I don't know. But in this shot they are just hanging on--no harness--and in the sunset pic they are in a harness and the suspension above their heads is totally different. Could there be TWO ziplines?
According to an eye witness there was quite a drop from the Fort on that zipline and a just "hanging on " rigging does not seem safe. And from the fort they go over rocks too--so seems like the harness set up makes sense. And the only teams observed doing the zipline from the Fort by our photographer were in the harness--not hanging on.
Second zipline? Different place? Help??
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I am so pleased to FINALLY be able to introduce you all to Eilan!
Eilan is a huge TAR fan, loves spoilers, and was the person lucky enough to be in Dubrovnik at just the right time to capture all the wonderful pictures of the Detour locations and tasks you have been enjoying. :thankyou:
She has been so generous with her time and insights, and has helped us enormously as we attempted to sort all of this out---please give her a big round of applause! :yourock:
And she is a fountain of information--so now you can all ask her yourselves to clarify anything I didn't get quite right! :lol:
:cheer: :welcome2: :cheer:
Now stand by--because we have a special treat on the way!
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Hello Eilan! :D Thank you for all the awesome stuff you did! :jam:
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Different view of the Detour location--showing our first look at the cluebox on the tower--and a new ladder and zipline--and possible teams down at the cluebox on the pier--and best of all--Roadblock in progress! 3 cheers for Chateau who identified this exact place as the location! :cheer:
THUMBNAIL!
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/th_img_0147.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/img_0147.jpg) CLICK ME!
Closeups:
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(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/pt3.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/pt4.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/pt6.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/pt8.jpg)(http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/32726/2006248482221411466_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2006248482221411466)
(http://aycu17.webshots.com/image/30416/2006210147506921362_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2006210147506921362)
More coming!
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Welcome to the forum Eilan and thank you for sharing all those wonderful pictures and details with us :hearts:!
---and lucky you! What a beautiful place to have a vacation :luvu: !
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Another team? Or teams? Or not? Mr. Yellow shirt appears to be trying to keep them in line...
(http://aycu39.webshots.com/image/32558/2005584610170151107_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005584610170151107)
still more to come...
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Of course, we have all seen our M/M team in the rowboats.
(http://aycu26.webshots.com/image/29825/2004503414791248219_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004503414791248219)
But Eilan has been kind enough to also share this: I think the boat I took the picture of was crew, not teams.
Maybe setting up a Detour? Someone is in the water!
THUMBNAIL!(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/th_img_0191.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/img_0191.jpg) CLICK ME!
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/pt5.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/pt7.jpg)
as always, thanks to puddin for the picture help! And a HUGE thank you to Eilan!
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Awwww, :-[ You guys are too kind. :jam:
Dubrovnik is a lovely spot - I recommend it to all.
I feel compelled to add, however, that it is entirely possible that that last picture of the boat may well be other tourists. Or locals, out enjoying a lovely day.
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Hello Eilan :hithere: I'm just a blabber mouth and saw you that you posted and had to jump in to say nice to meet you and can't thank you enough :jumpy:
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Google for images of "sea kayak dubrovnik" and you can pull up some red/yellow boats; most are solid colors, but some are mixed. Not much video gear or lifejackets can be seen. On the other hand, everyone seems oblivious of the cluebox, which would be very strange for non-crew.
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I had found this earlier and the pictures/location fits with the kayaks we saw in our first cluebox pictures.
Sea Kayaking - DUBROVNIK
DUBROVNIK, Full day tour
Description of excursion
Your sea adventure begins with rowing from the beach situated between the citadels Bokar and Lovrijenac. Easy rowing in kayaks and visiting the famous City Walls offers the opportunity to experience Dubrovnik from the sea side. The magnificent walls above you and the view of the old city haven will create moments to remember. After visiting the walls we row to and Island Lokrum.
I'm still wondering where they go in those rowboats. Think they just do a water based task?
Or maybe they go to this Island Lokrum (http://www.dubrovnik-guide.net/lokrum.htm), only 10 minutes away.
But thanks to Eilan's new picture--I think it is safe to say that there is a second zipline which goes from the tower .....out to sea? Or onto that raft and then to the rowboats?
But so far we seem to have a LOT of clueboxes! Is there a standard usual number per episode? I don't think I have ever counted before! :lol:
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Heeee....
Rowboats may navigate at a distance less than 50m from the coast.
Boating regulations (http://www.dubrovnik-guide.net/croatiaboating.htm)
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:waves:
Hi Eilan, thanks for bringing all your good photos and info to our little discovery party. It's a long party too! Take a peek at the archived threads to see what can happen. :rotf:
Your shots will help us figure out the order of team arrivals for this leg of the race. Do you remember if the red and yellow sea kayaks were there as a matter of local routine. Or, did they just appear for the TAR activities. They look like they are in the kind of arrangement that is often used for the race. But sometimes things are just set up for a contingency should there be a problem with another activity. The premiere of TAR5 had sea kayaks in place for a task but they did not use them due to a storm.
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Chateau, I think there are a couple of Kayak rental places that operate out of our little beach, so they may belong to them.
Here's one of them. (http://www.crochallenge.com/eng/dalmatia05.shtml)
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Hi Eilan! Welcome to RFF! Great pictures and great job in pinpointing locations in Dubrovnik. :tup: :tup: :tup:
Glad you're here. As you can plainly see, you've got a lot of fellow TARfans here. :wohoo: :wohoo:
Can't wait for the new season to begin! :jam: :jam:
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kayaks from my travels through flickr fwiw
here (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1051074463&size=o) and here (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=491936632&size=l) << love the hobbit house, its where they store the gear (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1120007215&size=o).
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:lol: Hobbit House--and it is so perfect!
I want a Hobbit House....
(http://aycu34.webshots.com/image/28673/2003672685207773975_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003672685207773975)
(http://aycu22.webshots.com/image/29301/2003609032595894299_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003609032595894299)
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I should check Picasa more often. A honeymoon album here (http://picasaweb.google.com/kaiser.amanda/HoneymoonCroatiaAndMontenegro) (we get some of our best stuff from honeymooners :beer:) that includes cluebox and "fake wall" shots as well as rigging shots (http://picasaweb.google.com/kaiser.amanda/HoneymoonCroatiaAndMontenegro/photo#5095250203039359298).
(Another interesting shot here (http://picasaweb.google.com/radivoje.andric/FotosiZaSlanjeIzZatona/photo#5111786341170918834) (July 13?), but I can't read it.)
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I should check Picasa more often. A honeymoon album here (http://picasaweb.google.com/kaiser.amanda/HoneymoonCroatiaAndMontenegro) (we get some of our best stuff from honeymooners :beer:) that includes cluebox and "fake wall" shots as well as rigging shots (http://picasaweb.google.com/kaiser.amanda/HoneymoonCroatiaAndMontenegro/photo#5095250203039359298).
(Another interesting shot here (http://picasaweb.google.com/radivoje.andric/FotosiZaSlanjeIzZatona/photo#5111786341170918834) (July 13?), but I can't read it.)
Very nice detective work Slowhatch! :wine: ( and here I was seaching smugmug! darn !)
eta: :yourock: :jumpy:
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An interesting album here (http://picasaweb.google.com/BrianThomeczek/BrianOnTheAmazingRace), including Green Headrag Guy. There's also a photo of ziplines leading to the boat float. (well maybe not ziplines, but something ???)
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(Another interesting shot here (http://picasaweb.google.com/radivoje.andric/FotosiZaSlanjeIzZatona/photo#5111786341170918834) (July 13?), but I can't read it.)
pripreme za snimanje americke serije Amazing race, or pozadini Lovrjenac
preparations for shooting america series Amazing race or blueprint? Lovrjenac
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my Croatian translator gave me this:
to prepare for recording America serial Amazing race , in the background Lovrjenac
SLOWHATCH!! :luvu:
These are fabulous!! WE have the GHB mid ladder!
We have SOMEONE zipping alone!
Oh please--can't we share??
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Heres your raft pictures (http://picasaweb.google.com/kaiser.amanda/HoneymoonCroatiaAndMontenegro/photo#5095257749296901234) Slowhatch! How about that Chateau!! :yourock:
Here is where I think the raft was. South of the City Wall Tower. This location gives the right sun angles to match the above shot for end-of-day sun.
GE Croatia locations zip4 raft
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/chateau/index-1.jpg)
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How about that Chateau!!
He had everything nailed down: both riggings, the fake wall and the float. :bow:
There's also a few pics of the Karaka ship, but I'm not sure if it's connected with the rest.
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I'm loving it!! We zip to the raft!
But now we have a third kind of Zipline? What's with the guy all by himself?
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Great work everyone !!!
Now I finally see how they held the other end of the zip line: It goes to an anchor :groan:
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I'm tryiing to track this picture (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/t82991.jpg) down~
eta: forget all that it looks like Rectors Palace
(http://i24.[banned image hosting site].com/wtici.jpg)
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puddin--this is Dubrovnik Main Square--notice the arches? nevermind--yours is much better!
(http://aycu13.webshots.com/image/32412/2004466042292382187_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004466042292382187)
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This (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/misc/index.jpg) shot was taken here between 4:20 and 4:31 pm (assumes July 19th)
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Good stuff over in MAPS! :lol:
http://www.dubrovnik-online.com/maps/old_town.php?l=
(http://aycu29.webshots.com/image/31308/2003922391209512178_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003922391209512178)
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Chateau--remember Eilan told us that Team GHB's cabbie took them to the wrong location first? They went down to the Old port first before the zipline!! Is this before or after the zipline??
puddin--depending on the time they could be on their way to the Old Port Cluebox!!
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This shot was taken here between 4:25 and 4:36 pm (assumes July 19th)
It's the Dubrovnik Ploce. The tourista shot is a Panoramio from GE
These shots are before the zip line. They are a little lost because here they are back tracking to the clue box by the big tree.
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This shot was taken between 5:04 and 5:21 pm (assumes July 19th)
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(Another interesting shot here (http://picasaweb.google.com/radivoje.andric/FotosiZaSlanjeIzZatona/photo#5111786341170918834) (July 13?), but I can't read it.)
What did we ever decide about this?
(http://aycu28.webshots.com/image/30227/2003907612420506089_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003907612420506089)
Crew testing the zip line perhaps?
Also dated July 13 which can't be right...
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There is no quesstion from the photos that the Amazing Race left Ouagadougou the evening of July 14(after arriving the afternoon of the 13th) for Frankfurt. Peach has done a fine job of providing the basic flight information. I have more detail here:
AF735 departs Ouagadougou 1045pm July 14 arrives Paris-CDG 0615 July 15 (Note: Saturday night is one of two weekly departures so all teams had to be on this)
There are 4 possibilities for CDG to FRA and which ones they were allowed to book in OUA will differentiate the positions of the teams:
AF1418 departs 0735 arrives 0900
LH4211 departs 0910 arrives 1025
AF1618 departs 0945 arrives 1110
LH4213 departs 1020 arrives 1155
Something is funny here. If your times are right, the TAR12 teams travelled a mightly long way from Amsterdam, via Paris to OUA and then only spent a little over 24 hours there. And a 12-hour pit stop should be included, before another long flight back to CDG and on to FRA. So much for a grand old time in glorious, heart-warming, magnificant Ouagadougou!!
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For the arrivals into Dubrovnik:
It's looking like the first teams arrived from London (Luton Airport) on TOM3443 which left London at 8:45 am and arrived in Dubrovnik at 12:10 pm. That and an efficient debarking & Taxi for 12 miles would get them to the stone pier at 12:30 pm.
For the GHB team, it looks like they arrived also from London (Gatwick Airport) on BA2882 which left London at 11:55 am and arrived in Dubrovnik at 3:45 pm. That and a Taxi for 12 miles would get them to the incorrect cluebox by the port at 4:20 pm.
There are a bazillion flights fron Frankfurt to London. Six flights can be taken with arrivals between 6:40 and 9:00 am. Obviously they would have to do some intracity transport to get to the right London airport for their flight to Dubrovnik.
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Oh crap !
What are the odds? :groan:
Well, I'll stick with my London-based arrival flights in Dubrovnik. :snicker:
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That works for me then--thanks guys--good pickup Slowhatch--darn it! :lol:
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Oh crap !
What are the odds? :groan:
Well, I'll stick with my London-based arrival flights in Dubrovnik. :snicker:
Chateau, I am not saying you are wrong. However, please examine the information below and draw your own conclusions:
There are many flights every day from Zagreb into Dubrovnik. they start at 0545 and end at 2120. Any flight arrivals into Zagreb an appropriate connect time ahead of any of those flights will allow a single connection from an originating city to Dubrovnik. The list of cities from which you can fly nonstop to Zagreb is huge:
Major European Capitals/Cities
Amsterdam
Budapest
Cologne
Frankfurt
Istanbul
London Heathrow
Milan Malpensa
Moscow
Munich
Paris - CDG
Prague
Rome - Fumicino
Vienna
Zurich
Cities of Forner Yugoslavia
Belgrade
Split
Sarajevo
Pula
Ljubljana
Skopje
Other Cities
Nuremburg
Bergamo
Altenrheim
Zana
Tirana
Varazdin
There is no need for teams to fly nonstop to Dubrovnik. If so, the above indicates a wealth of places they could originate from.
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Camera clocks may be off by a day or two (check the time of day on this photo (http://www.flickr.com/photo_exif.gne?id=1513065156) ;D), but I'll just take everything at face value: in other words, the rigging was up a few days before the race and maybe a few days after.
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I gave in and left a comment and asked morbleary about the date :angel: :-[
(Another interesting shot here (http://picasaweb.google.com/radivoje.andric/FotosiZaSlanjeIzZatona/photo#5111786341170918834) (July 13?), but I can't read it.)
What did we ever decide about this?
(http://aycu28.webshots.com/image/30227/2003907612420506089_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003907612420506089)
Crew testing the zip line perhaps?
Also dated July 13 which can't be right...
peach for what its worth, taken from the Slowhatch book of school :tup: --this ladies pictures (http://16th
http://picasaweb.google.com/ncylieu/ContikiEuropeanTrip2007Part3MontenegroAmsterdam/photo#5105395944630822834) show the zip set up on the 16th.
You can see
(http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/searchbrowse?q=dubrovnik+amazing+race&uname=&psc=G&filter=1#1) what a hard job it is setting this up--lol at the guy taking a break.
I'll guess this cutie is the same guy from Eilan's pictures~
(http://i23.[banned image hosting site].com/24yuz9j.jpg)
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beat me to it peach :lol: ! did you see theres a video of crew too?
I certainly have missed something, and I am too lazy to go back through all of these marvelous posts to learn where these photos orginated from. They must be the best shots we have ever had of teams actually doing tasks during a TAR race. Someone, please make my day.
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There is no need for teams to fly nonstop to Dubrovnik. If so, the above indicates a wealth of places they could originate from.
I agree that incoming flights from Zagreb would be the logical choice, however, the only flights from Zagreb that showed up for yesterday, Friday 10/19/07, were 6:40 am, 3:10 pm, 3:15 pm, and 10:15 pm. Zracna Luca Dubrovnik Arrivals (http://www.airport-dubrovnik.hr/dolasci.php)
None of those would qualify for Team delivery times of 12:30 pm, 4:20 pm, or 6:00 pm. If you can find any flight arrivals 15 to 45 min prior to those times I'll give you a sucker. ;)
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beat me to it peach :lol: ! did you see theres a video of crew too?
I certainly have missed something, and I am too lazy to go back through all of these marvelous posts to learn where these photos orginated from. They must be the best shots we have ever had of teams actually doing tasks during a TAR race. Someone, please make my day.
Slowhatch found them Gman :jumpy:!
I should check Picasa more often. A honeymoon album here (http://picasaweb.google.com/kaiser.amanda/HoneymoonCroatiaAndMontenegro) (we get some of our best stuff from honeymooners :beer:) that includes cluebox and "fake wall" shots as well as rigging shots (http://picasaweb.google.com/kaiser.amanda/HoneymoonCroatiaAndMontenegro/photo#5095250203039359298).
(Another interesting shot here (http://picasaweb.google.com/radivoje.andric/FotosiZaSlanjeIzZatona/photo#5111786341170918834) (July 13?), but I can't read it.)
An interesting album here (http://picasaweb.google.com/BrianThomeczek/BrianOnTheAmazingRace), including Green Headrag Guy. There's also a photo of ziplines leading to the boat float. (well maybe not ziplines, but something ???)
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I gave in and left a comment and asked morbleary about the date :angel: :-[
Can you tell me if the picture of the cluebox was taken on the 18th or 19th?
Sweet, just to confirm~
You know, I'm not sure I can. The whole trip was such a blur - and since we traveled from Seattle to Croatia, I'm sure the timestamp on the picture is off. If you think it should the 19th instead of the 18th, you are probably right.
link, again to the cluebox picture (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bleary/1513065156/) thanks to Slowhatch.
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There is no need for teams to fly nonstop to Dubrovnik. If so, the above indicates a wealth of places they could originate from.
I agree that incoming flights from Zagreb would be the logical choice, however, the only flights from Zagreb that showed up for yesterday, Friday 10/19/07, were 6:40 am, 3:10 pm, 3:15 pm, and 10:15 pm. Zracna Luca Dubrovnik Arrivals (http://www.airport-dubrovnik.hr/dolasci.php)
None of those would qualify for Team delivery times of 12:30 pm, 4:20 pm, or 6:00 pm. If you can find any flight arrivals 15 to 45 min prior to those times I'll give you a sucker. ;)
CHATEAU, the information in your link for 10/22 is consistent with my Zagreb departures for weekdays. I also have taken a look back to 7/18/2007 and found these scheduled flight arrivals in Dubrovnik from Zagreb:
OU660 815am
OU384 325pm
OU664 905pm
OU668 1040pm
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Close, but no sucker !
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The Dubrovnik airport is quite a ways outside town. I'd give it a half hour or so, depending on traffic. And it's all narrow, windy, two-lane highway, and the roads into/near town are one-way, and even one tourist bus (or airport bus) could create a real problem.
For what that's worth.
(And yes, that is my cutie crew guy. He was indeed quite pleasant to look at. And he had a very slight accent, for those of you (us) who appreciate such things.)
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There is no need for teams to fly nonstop to Dubrovnik. If so, the above indicates a wealth of places they could originate from.
I agree that incoming flights from Zagreb would be the logical choice, however, the only flights from Zagreb that showed up for yesterday, Friday 10/19/07, were 6:40 am, 3:10 pm, 3:15 pm, and 10:15 pm. Zracna Luca Dubrovnik Arrivals (http://www.airport-dubrovnik.hr/dolasci.php)
None of those would qualify for Team delivery times of 12:30 pm, 4:20 pm, or 6:00 pm. If you can find any flight arrivals 15 to 45 min prior to those times I'll give you a sucker. ;)
CHATEAU, the information in your link for 10/22 is consistent with my Zagreb departures for weekdays. I also have taken a look back to 7/18/2007 and found these scheduled flight arrivals in Dubrovnik from Zagreb:
OU660 815am
OU384 325pm
OU664 905pm
OU668 1040pm
Any chance that the teams may have picked up a car at the Zagreb airport an driven to Dubrovnik?
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I think Eilan reported that they came by taxi.
Eilan, so do you think the taxi from the airport would be half an hour? I guess you just said that. :lol: I just want to be sure. It will help us narrow down the field of previous pit stop locations.
I may need to revise my flight synchronizations. ???
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GMAN, anything is possible. However, it's close to 300 miles from Zagreb to Dubrovnik by road and I consider it unlikely. Since it is on the back end of connecting flights, there is no reason to believe that the producers would have written the clue to give them that latitude. Remember that in a much more sensible situation on Zanzibar teams could not use alternative transportation(high-speed ferry) and had to stick to flying.
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OK, what is the fifth "NEW COUNTRY"?
We already spotted Ireland, Lithuania, Croatia and Burkina Faso. Belize?
50,000 miles seems to indicate that TAR teams travel somewhere in Asia on the way to Alaska.
I strongly favor a direct move of the teams independently to an overseas start city
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OK, what is the fifth "NEW COUNTRY"?
We already spotted Ireland, Lithuania, Croatia and Burkina Faso. Belize?
50,000 miles seems to indicate that TAR teams travel somewhere in Asia on the way to Alaska.
I strongly favor a direct move of the teams independently to an overseas start city
i have had some speculation on my part that it maybe tawain as the fith country, they have a direct flight to alaska from tapia
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Puddin, you can delete this after you see it!
I'd tried some sun angle work and this location is perfect!
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Puddin, you can delete this after you see it!
I'd tried some sun angle work and this location is perfect!
More on this later, thank you Chateau!
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Yes, Chateau, I'd give it half an hour. But when we arrived, we'd been traveling (with two children) for about thirty-six straight hours. And when we left, it was two short days later and about four in the morning. It wasn't a quick trip, but it wasn't ridiculous.
Helpful am I, neh? ???
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Thanks Eilan,
Quick question: How long did it take GHB to assemble their rope ladder?
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This I cannot tell you either, Chateau. Sorry. I don't think it was too long, as we saw them run up to the Fort, then do the zipline, then rappell, then climb up the wall. And we weren't there for hours and hours. I actually thought, until seeing pictures, that the ladders were already assembled. Perhaps they only had to put a few final rungs on?
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Thanks for all the info you provided Eilan
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HEY I KNEW THEY WERE COMING TO TAIPEI: My friend told me that he thinks he saw teams on the amazing race approaching Taipei 101. Since he wasn’t a fan, so he didn’t bother to follow them. But he DID remember a few things. When he told me his findings, I immediately grabbed him and forced him to tell me EVERYTHING because I was such a huge fan. So here it goes: around 26,27 of July as I remember- sorry I couldn’t remember the EXACT dates, he was shopping with his girlfriend in xin guang shan uiah beside Taipei 101. When he was planning to shop in 101 at noon, he saw this man and women (couples) ran out of the taxi and looked up at Taipei 101. He also saw 2 camera men running with them. However, he found it weird that the couples did not enter the Taipei 101 and were actually waiting for someone. He describes the couple as a brunette woman and a man. He said that the man seemed very athletic and fit. Since he saw that there were camera men around, he notices that this might be on TV. He continued to stay for 10 minutes and another group came which he describes as another couple which consists of a blond girl. He THINKS that there was an Asian team far behind or eliminated already because he was a good listener. When he was walking into Taipei 101, he was literally 2 feet away from the blond racer and he heard the girl say something like “I wonder what the Asians would say if they came to this place”. At first, I thought this was amazing race asia because I didn’t expect amazing race 12 to contain another asian team ever since the cho’s. Now after the official list of teams came out, I strongly believe my friend’s sightings because there were asian teams. He only saw 2 teams each holding a blue form on their hands.
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Hi Huholah!
:welcome2: to the Forum and thanks so much for sharing! :waves:
Was the 2nd team a man/woman couple? With the woman a blonde?
And is there any chance you could show your friend some pictures and see if he recognizes anyone?
And how sure are you of those 2 dates? Does your friend remember what day of the week it was?
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he thinks that Lorena and Jason were in but is not sure because he could only recognize the long hair. He says that he is not at all confident with what he saw with the second team. He jst notices a blond woman with a man(he didnt really see the man's face). He was pretty sure it was friday that he saw them because he was only advailables on fridays to go out.
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That's great, huholah!
What kind of store is TAipei 101 please?
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ITS THE tallet buildng in the world......
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oh...sorry!
But your friend didn't see/hear what they did there?
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He said that he saw the first group heading the direction of getting to the top of 101-elevator. And the second group, he didnt see because when he walked into the building the second group was still outside(possibliy asking how to get up to the tower). I would assume there is a clue box up at the tower because I asked my frend if he saw anything else on the racer's hands, but he only saw a blue piece of paper..
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uh-oh----sounds like something scary is coming! :lol:
Anything else you can think of to add?
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not that I can think of now ><...I'll ask my friend tomorrow......All I can say is..I think Taipei locatin was either 26th of July or 27th.....And since he only saw 2 teams on a spand of 10 minutes, it has to be a leg with very few teams because if it was one of the beginning legs, more than 2 teams would appear in a span of around 10 minutes.....
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You were wonderful! Thank you again for sharing with us and thank your friend too! I don't suppose he took any pictures? :lol:
Please come back and help us with this--I'm excited to get to see Taipei!
Maybe you'll be able to help us with the other place we know they go? Long Shan Temple?
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,13733.msg235271.html#msg235271
It will be such a help to have some one who knows their way around the city!
We may move this to the Amazing Race Spoilers thread--so look for us there okay? http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.0.html
Thanks again! :waves:
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Here you go Peach!!! :lol:
Taipai 101
It's a class :snicker:
Nice work Peach, in mining the info and thanks huholah! :jumpy:
(http://www.lehrassoc.com/images/projects_thumbnails_taipai101.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/00/101.portrait.altonthompson.jpg)
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Thanks Chateau!
I'll see if puddin wants to move this to the spoiler thread...
Pretty building! Some death defying stunt?
Dates work...
Not so sure about the blonde girl/couple though....Unless that is Nathan/Jennifer? And their promo didn't inspire confidence that they would be around that long...
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Thanks Huholah! :tup: Here's a map (http://www.dot.taipei.gov.tw/dot2004/EN/web/map_en921103.jpg) for Peach (warning--large file); Longshan is on the far left and Taipei 101 is on the right, over by Four Beasts Mountains. The Kmzs are below.
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Thanks for the info huholah and welcome to the site like puddin said!
My monitor has a huge crack in the middle of it and until I get a new one I have to deal with it :(
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my friend was not sure who he actually saw because it was 3 months ago.....he only THINKS its jenn/nathan because of the blunette hair of the woman. It could be another team he saw. Again, he is not a fan of amazing race so he wouldn't pay much attension to it. He only kind of payed attension because there were camera man around which inicates that it was going to be on TV.
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Hi huholah! Thanks for checking back with us!
You actually said yesterday that your friend thought it could be Lorena/Jason because she is brunette. (I'm still learning their names too!) I was the one who proposed Nathan/Jennifer because she is the only blonde in a couple. Athough we do have other blondes--they are part of all female teams.
We know we can't be SURE of the teams your friend saw--we are just excited!
Did you have a chance to see if your friend remembered anything else?
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nope, today when I asked him, he said he didn't remember much....it WAS 3 months ago. ><
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That's okay! We are just glad to have the information on the sighting at all--thank you again for sharing with us!
We hope you'll stay and help us with this leg--we are bound to have questions that someone in Taipei can help us with!
Will you be able to see the show?
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Lets get this back on track for spoilers only please :waves:, I'm going to delete some chit chat including my own B:) B:)--
speculation goes here --
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12523.0.html
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Amazing work on the locations here! I've been following this thread closely and decided to make a Google Map for Amazing Race 12 based on the incredible information here. If you're interested, head over to the Amazing Race 12 Map http://brentevans.blogspot.com/2007/11/amazing-race-12-mapping-amazing-race.html
- I'll update it during/after each episode and will try to keep it ahead by at least one episode using the info in this thread.
Thanks for the incredible information here!!!
http://brentevans.blogspot.com/2007/11/amazing-race-12-mapping-amazing-race.html
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Very nice Brent! Welcome aboard! :jumpy:
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Wrong Thread! see other
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Was just browsing through Innertube, but watch the last line of Kynt & Vyxsin's video - Is "U-Turn" the new Yield?
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hey...since I don't know how to upload pictures...butif you go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reajQvddI5s, on 28 seconds, it shows a picture of TAIPEI 101!!!!HAHAHA just to make sure my friend was telling the truth :P
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huholah, nobody doubted you or your friend, particularly not since it was discovered that the only nonstop flight from Asia to Alaska departs from Chiang Kai Shek International Airport.
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actually, I doubted him.....for some reason....
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did anyone notice that on the last page of the episode 1 recap on cbs.com, they talk about a "u-turn" and a "speed bump"? any idea about what these new twists are!?
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Hi moox! :waves:
Have a looky over here: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,13321.msg237286.html#msg237286
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huholah:
Sending you some picture posting love! Check your PM's....
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the airport in Taipei is no longer CKS
BUT Taiwan Taoyuan I A
I'm Back!! :lol:
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qing_her, I have just learned something that is not being reflected in some important international flight information sources. Indeed, you are correct that the name Chiang Kai Shek was changed to Taiwan Taoyuan on Sept. 6, 2006. Fortunately for me, the airport code of TPE was not affected.
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What are the odds? Too bad the girl is a blurr when you zoom in but you can see a pink shirt.
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I don't think so because I have Ronald and Christina arriving at about 12:30 to the cluebox for that Roadblock.
The shadows in that picture indicate a time of 2 to 4 pm (maybe even later).
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Thanks Chateau so we'll keep our eyes open for a dark haired girl w/ what looks like a pink shirt and we know its not Rachel , Vyxsin , or Christina for sure or Hendkea because she arrives at the cluebox much later. The only ones left are the Ruiz sisters/ or Lorena i guess.
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Why not Rachel?
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I thought we already did this once? ???
off to look....
I guess we did it just in general terms..
Rachel did not have on pink that day.
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Does it have to be a racer?
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I guess that could be TK leaning against the wall? I dont know why I'm seeing a pink shirt :P ?
OK more riddles -- why 6 boats if we think there are 7 racers left -- we "think" but aren't sure.
This is the raft I found at flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coccinella169/887017858/in/datetaken/) but at the time didn't realize it was part of the race set up
Taken on July 18, 2007
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/EilanRFF/887017858_d5ff24e9ef.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/EilanRFF/07Nov0036.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/DSC02955.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/EilanRFF/06Nov0013.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/EilanRFF/06Nov0014.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/EilanRFF/06Nov0015.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/EilanRFF/06Nov0016.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/EilanRFF/06Nov0017.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/EilanRFF/06Nov0018.jpg)
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TK maybe?
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/TKmaybe-1.jpg)
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yeah that has to be TK -- the clothes match - and the pink shirt could really be a grey shirt ?
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OK I give in on this one -- its probably Rachel doing the RB with TK watching and the camera dude looks the same --
so now do we think there are 6 teams left in Croatia? I mean lets say there was a Fast Forward option .. still there should be 7 boats set up not 6 right?
That would give us 5 known of the final 6 with the last team being in their 30's? M/F close in age could be brother & sister or a couple. Also a decription of a couple here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bleary/1513065156/) at Slowhatch's find.
We also talked to some people from England who didn't know what the show was, but told us they had seen two couples in row boats being videotaped. They weren't sure, but thought one couple (team) seemed to be doing well and the other (who they thought was male-female) was having a lot of difficulty
here it is ~ From Eilan:
*There were probably 6 to 7 teams seen.
*They came in a group of 3 or so, then one, then the rest.
*There were at least one F/F team. And at least one M/F team who were close in age so could have been boyfriend/girlfriend or brother/sister, etc. That team was in the middle of the pack.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/06nov0024.jpg)
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Are we sure that there wasn't already a team that passed through and that's why there are only 6 boats?
What about this picture:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/EilanRFF/06Nov0013.jpg)
There's that boat out in the distance?
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I assume hes guarding the dock Michael and these pictures came from 3 different sources so what are the odds of 6 boats everytime?
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We just don't know about those boats. One team could already be gone, one boat could be still being brought in, or of course, we could be down to 6.
last team being in their 30's? M/F close in age could be brother & sister or a couple
The quote about "could be a brother =/sister or a couple" was in ref to TK/Rachel.
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The main reason I have been thinking it was Rachel was Peach, I think, originally called it as a "girl with a green headband" (maybe the green was left out) I don't remember. :lol:
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GHB--green headband team--came initially from Eilan as a description....
I'm thinking it looks like TK and therefore could be them--would the times fit for them Chateau?
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Hmm, wouldn't that Taiwan "spoiler" be wrong if there are indeed no more than 7 teams in Croatia?
Think about it, 6 teams are accounted for in Croatia:
Ronald/Christina
Nicholas/Donald
Kynt/Vyxsin
Azaria/Hendekea
TK/Rachel
And a female team(either Shana/Jennifer or Marianna/Julia)
Room for only one other team.
The Taiwan guy said Lorena/Jason and another couple with a blonde girl(Nathan/Jennifer are the only ones that fit) were there. If there are 7 teams in Croatia, this spoiler is false.
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This is a tough one. The shadow seems kind of close to the wall (that TK is leaning against). I know from their other shadows that they were there around 4:30 to 5:30. But to call the time of the shot as 4:30 is on the edge of hard-to-believe. I will have to do a cosine correction to sort it out. And... I can't do that right now. It will have to wait until the w/e.
Sorry.
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Hmm, wouldn't that Taiwan "spoiler" be wrong if there are indeed no more than 7 teams in Croatia?
Think about it, 6 teams are accounted for in Croatia:
Ronald/Christina
Nicholas/Donald
Kynt/Vyxsin
Azaria/Hendekea
TK/Rachel
And a female team(either Shana/Jennifer or Marianna/Julia)
Room for only one other team.
The Taiwan guy said Lorena/Jason and another couple with a blonde girl(Nathan/Jennifer are the only ones that fit) were there. If there are 7 teams in Croatia, this spoiler is false.
I wouldn't quote the Taiwan sighting -- he now says hes not sure that it was too long ago.
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Was there a F/F sighting in Croatia? I didn't know that =/
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here:
He describes the couple as a brunette woman and a man. He said that the man seemed very athletic and fit. He continued to stay for 10 minutes and another group came which he describes as another couple which consists of a blond girl. He THINKS that there was an Asian team far behind or eliminated already because he was a good listener. When he was walking into Taipei 101, he was literally 2 feet away from the blond racer and he heard the girl say something like “I wonder what the Asians would say if they came to this place”.
he thinks that Lorena and Jason were in but is not sure because he could only recognize the long hair. He says that he is not at all confident with what he saw with the second team. He jst notices a blond woman with a man(he didnt really see the man's face). He was pretty sure it was friday that he saw them because he was only advailables on fridays to go out.
my friend was not sure who he actually saw because it was 3 months ago.....he only THINKS its jenn/nathan because of the blunette hair of the woman. It could be another team he saw. Again, he is not a fan of amazing race so he wouldn't pay much attension to it. He only kind of payed attension because there were camera man around which inicates that it was going to be on TV.
today when I asked him, he said he didn't remember much....it WAS 3 months ago
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oh -- thanks puddin!
if any f/f team make it to the f6 I hope its the blondies because the other ones are to manly.
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Something interesting that I noticed after re-watching the first episode. Phil essentially said that there would be 11 legs (he states, "the first to cross the finish line after 11 legs..." at the starting line). Did anyone else catch this? Is this a mistake? I want to say no, only becuase I recall that at the beginning of Season 10, when they cut two teams in the first leg (and there were 12 teams to begin with), Phil said that "eight legs" would be elimination legs (essentially giving away the double-elimination leg twist).
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The show will will do two fewer episodes and drop the noneliminations to create more excitement. ;)
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puddin:
My simple analysis of how many teams should be left says this:
after Ireland 10
after Netherlands 9
after Africa 8 or 7, depends on whether TBC is used there
after Florence 7 or 6
Going into Dubrovnik, the correct number of teams therefore depends on the use of the TBC in a prior leg. If it was used as I predict it should be, then there will be 7 teams going into Dubrovnik. If it wasn't used, then all prior legs would be elimination points and there would be 6 teams going into Dubrovnik.
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I remember what the press release stated; I'm just noting, however, that Phil said "eleven legs" specifically (not episodes). I also recall that Phil got defensive on a news program when the interviewer asked if they were dropping nonelimination legs.
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I remember what the press release stated; I'm just noting, however, that Phil said "eleven legs" specifically (not episodes). I also recall that Phil got defensive on a news program when the interviewer asked if they were dropping nonelimination legs.
Yea they coulding make it more obvious its 11 legs [mean 2 non eliminations legs], and i dont remember ever reading they dropped all non-elims, they said they dropped 2 [4-2=2] Now they have never counted TBC's as legs [well in AR9 they did], but i really think there are deffinally non elims!
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Hello all!! :jumpy:
I am new here. This is my first post. Just getting into the spoiler aspect of this show and I am wondering if there are any speculations this year as to who are in the final 3 or 4 or 5, etc....
Any help would be MUCH appreciated! Keep up the great work you all do. :tup:
--TheWolveye
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Hello all!! :jumpy:
I am new here. This is my first post. Just getting into the spoiler aspect of this show and I am wondering if there are any speculations this year as to who are in the final 3 or 4 or 5, etc....
Any help would be MUCH appreciated! Keep up the great work you all do. :tup:
--TheWolveye
No one is answering because no one knows Wolveye at least I think no one knows :D? In my mind I have a final 3 but thats speculation and something I'm keeping to myself :).
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something you're keeping to your self, eh?
Whatever, I see how it is -- but my Goths better be involved in this "something" because we all know that your information is never wrong.
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Hello all!! :jumpy:
I am new here. This is my first post. Just getting into the spoiler aspect of this show and I am wondering if there are any speculations this year as to who are in the final 3 or 4 or 5, etc....
Any help would be MUCH appreciated! Keep up the great work you all do. :tup:
--TheWolveye
No one is answering because no one knows Wolveye at least I think no one knows :D? In my mind I have a final 3 but thats speculation and something I'm keeping to myself :).
Keeping it to yourself, eh wench? Not last time when you gave us the pecking order weeks before TAR11 started? :hearts:
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I agree with the non-elim legs being where askip has them placed. With that being said, I am confused on the number of boats, but you really can't depend on them to give an exact number. If they are from test runs, maybe they used one to test. In the pictures, it seems they have more than enough room for one more. Also, just because we have shots of 5 teams and know of the girls as the 6th, the person visiting Croatia at the time, didn't see them all. She easly could have missed 2 teams. Or another thing to consider, the fast forward. There is always one team that goes for it when its offered. Maybe the producers thought that only 6 boats would be needed because one team would inevidably go for the FF. With Taiwan, they could have mistaken TK/Rachel for Lorena/Jason
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So do we have any idea which of the F/F teams make it to Croatia?
Blondes or Brunettes?
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So do we have any idea which of the F/F teams make it to Croatia?
Blondes or Brunettes?
No idea, back to spoilers please :carryon:
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Eilan sent us all some presents! :hearts: In the hopes we can figure out who is zipping...
and say thank you to puddin and Rob for Veoh'ing them for us! :ty3: :yess:
Rachel rapelling:
Online Videos by Veoh.com
Zipline duo:
Online Videos by Veoh.com
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Nicely done!
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12 seconds in to the zip video, I think you can see that one person has long hair while the other has short hair. So if that is correct, it's not one of the girl teams or Nicholas/Donald.
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Remember they are wearing helmets. I'm leaning towards the siblings myself.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/misc/25Sep0013.jpg)
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On first view, I thought I saw hair too...here is the 12 second capture...
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They are black? its just too hard to say.
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Actually, I think they are white. The arms seem relatively light in contrast to the rest of the body.
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Well Azaria has on a gray jacket light blue? I dunno?
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it looks like a black blob to me :(
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The flight of the Blob! :lol3:
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:lol3: peach!
anyways I had a crap day so i'm going to sleep early for once, good luck figuring this out tonight guys!
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I'm new. Don't shoot. I can't get the videos to play. Is there a secret handshake I don't know about? :lol:
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I'm new. Don't shoot. I can't get the videos to play. Is there a secret handshake I don't know about? :lol:
Did you try the big blue arrow in the middle of the screen?
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I clicked it and nothing happens.
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I clicked it and nothing happens.
Dial up? AOL?
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Well--I'm the really un-techy one... :lol:
But don't you need some kind of flash player installed to see videos? Seems like I had to reinstall something after my hard drive crashed...Is that what my Adobe Flash Player does? (clueless here :lol:)
Come on you techies--help the new guy gal!
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Actually it's just showing a question mark. And I'm a girl. An un-techy girl. I'll try some other stuff and see what I can do.
Do you guys have a list of who you think will win each week and who you think will be eliminated?
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well hows this?
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR12/misc/zip-1.jpg)
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GUIDANCE NEEDED IN The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
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Those are nice puddin! I want to learn how to do that! :lol:
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Puddin posted a video that is in Croatia?
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They are both right at the top of the page! :lol: :waves:
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Where are betting spoilers when you need them?! :knuckles:
If the blondes win I don't know how i'd feel -- the first F/F team has to be...them...
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Where are betting spoilers when you need them?! :knuckles:
If the blondes win I don't know how i'd feel -- the first F/F team has to be...them...
Say what? Who says a F/F team wins? I--Don't--Think--So :cmas3
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no no no LOL I was just saying if they did win figures they would be the F/F team to win because the team I really don't like always wins
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Oh nice spoiler :cmas13
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:lol3:
sorry, I have to stop doing that LOL
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I can't get into this without a subscription :meow: but this fits our Girdwood spoiler:
Idaho goes Hollywood
Three welded-aluminum boats will appear in the last episode of the "Amazing Race" on CBS-TV, says Doug Riddle, owner of Riddle Marine, which constructed the vessels. And the Travel Channel will air a "Cash and Treasures" segment about ...
Lewiston Tribune Online - Top Stories - http://www.lmtribune.com/
That gives us more confirmation of Girdwood (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg225211.html#msg225211) as the last episode.....
Might look like this:
(http://aycu17.webshots.com/image/37736/2005319661901024336_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005319661901024336)
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Which tells me the last three teams either drive or are driven in a boat to the last task like TARFE when the three families were in the lake in upstate NY.
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We have all the boat info in the spoiler already...We know where, when, and exactly WHAT they do...we only don't know WHO does it! :cmaslol
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg225211.html#msg225211
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Good find peach :cmas16
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I'm a newcomer to Reality Fan Forum, and I found a link to a possible spoiler on who wins the Amazing Race on another website. You might find this very interesting. As this possible spoiler might involve one of my favorite teams, I certainly hope it's the case.
http://www.forumsnet.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=tarspoilers;action=display;num=1197848466
Belle Book
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Last season Dustin and Kandice were listed as the main stars too
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Welcome Belle Book :xmas49, I was just beginning to like Ron & Christina but sadly, I don't think they win :faint:
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I didn't know Dustin & Kandice were the stars last season, and I don't think the person who suggested that the fact that Ronald & Christina were the stars means they might've won knew that -- or perhaps remembered it. In any case, I wonder what caused people to start thinking that Ronald & Christina might've been shortly eliminated before Taiwan. The last thing I heard was that Ronald & Christina had made it to Taiwan, and then the next thing I heard people were suggesting that either they had been eliminated just a little bit before or they were way behind.
Belle Book
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^^ from this post~
HEY I KNEW THEY WERE COMING TO TAIPEI: My friend told me that he thinks he saw teams on the amazing race approaching Taipei 101. Since he wasn’t a fan, so he didn’t bother to follow them. But he DID remember a few things. When he told me his findings, I immediately grabbed him and forced him to tell me EVERYTHING because I was such a huge fan. So here it goes: around 26,27 of July as I remember- sorry I couldn’t remember the EXACT dates, he was shopping with his girlfriend in xin guang shan uiah beside Taipei 101. When he was planning to shop in 101 at noon, he saw this man and women (couples) ran out of the taxi and looked up at Taipei 101. He also saw 2 camera men running with them. However, he found it weird that the couples did not enter the Taipei 101 and were actually waiting for someone. He describes the couple as a brunette woman and a man. He said that the man seemed very athletic and fit. Since he saw that there were camera men around, he notices that this might be on TV. He continued to stay for 10 minutes and another group came which he describes as another couple which consists of a blond girl. He THINKS that there was an Asian team far behind or eliminated already because he was a good listener. When he was walking into Taipei 101, he was literally 2 feet away from the blond racer and he heard the girl say something like “I wonder what the Asians would say if they came to this place”. At first, I thought this was amazing race asia because I didn’t expect amazing race 12 to contain another asian team ever since the cho’s. Now after the official list of teams came out, I strongly believe my friend’s sightings because there were asian teams. He only saw 2 teams each holding a blue form on their hands.
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I wasn't go to say anything because I don't want anyone to hate me and it was suggested to me that this might ruin the show for some people by having a crappy end to such a great season, but the evil inside makes me want you all to suffer with me, from a reliable source, again remember I wasn't at End City and wasn't a witness so I can't confirm whether this is true or not, but I was told who wins .. :hides
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Jennifer & Nathan win "muhahahahaha" :sera:
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muhahaha is what you say after posting such horror?!
SHAME ON YOU!
:cmaslol
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Ah, I see. Well, I'll just hope that Ron & Christina are behind them and not already eliminated.
And as for your claim that Nathan & Jennifer will win, Puddin ... I seriously hope you're joking! Otherwise, this is what I'd say to that kind of news: :dick
Belle Book
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Don't worry Belle Book -- i've known for a couple of days now and it gets easier to accept :(
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I can't believe that after what happened with the Shana/Jennifer in Croatia stuff, people so easily accept other spoilers with absolutely no picture evidence whatsoever.
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I can't believe that after what happened with the Shana/Jennifer in Croatia stuff, people so easily accept other spoilers with absolutely no picture evidence whatsoever.
Don't you remember the last time puddin received a spoiler from a reliable source without pictures?
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tbh I think I would rather any other remaining team to win before N&J do, but that is the beauty of reality shows, it is unscripted, and not always the nicest, best or most deserving who win the prize.
if this spoiler is true, then I wonder if the money was the making, or the breaking of their rather shaky looking relationship. ???
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I can't believe that after what happened with the Shana/Jennifer in Croatia stuff, people so easily accept other spoilers with absolutely no picture evidence whatsoever.
If it was a new member, and this claim was their first posting, then it would be reasonable to question their source. But puddin has proved before that she has some pretty good anonymous sources, and while you can never be 100% certain on any spoiler until after the show has aired, I reackon there's better odds that she might be right, than most other posters around here.
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I was referring more to the Taiwan spoiler and the Nicholas/Donald thing in Alaska.
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Thanks Mrs Shrek & Michael :cmas20
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Jennifer & Nathan win "muhahahahaha" :sera:
nooooooooo say it isn't so :cmas4
I hope its like the Amanda spoiler for survivor which proved to be wrong.
Why do these annoying teams always win hmmmpfh
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My only comment is that it helps explain why Nathan and Jennifer still have a relationship when the evidence for leg 1 through leg 6, Dubrovnik, would indicate Jennifer's death stare and extreme disappointment at their fractured relationship would have led to their disintegration as a couple. Winning $1 million provides one of the few rationales for them to still be together.
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I doubt the quote-unquote spoiler based on the information on the "stars" of TAR. My DirecTV guide lists Kynt & Vyxsin and main stars each week. Based on that, do I think they're in the Final 3 and thus, likely winners? I'd like to, but I can't.
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So now that we know that NATHAN AND JENNIFER WIN I say the pecking order goes something like this:
Kynt and Vyxsin (although I still think that the episode eight title could pertain to them)
Ron and Christina
F3:
Gramps
Rachel and TK
JenNate
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Oh HELL NO. Nate/Jen!?
Well at least that settles their whole "WE WANT TO COME IN 1st!" edit.
They don't win any legs until the last one. Now i'll just go slit my wrists now.
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oh, very sad to hear that Nathan/Jennifer are going to win... though I am not surprised that they would.
I think their edit now is like Freddy/Kendra, while TK/Rachel are Kris/Jon to me, so it makes sense if the outcome of this season will be the same as season 6.
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:cmas4 i am in official mourning now if this is true which i have little doubts that it is, sigh.
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This is definitely the truth? Or at least the truth as we know it?
I guess this will give us all time to get used to it before it happens. This is a sad, sad day. What bothers me the most is why can't the editors portray them as at least tolerable?
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You know it probably IS true they win cause I seem to like all the teams that everyone else doesn't and they WIN!!! Hahaha! Or at least are in the F3.
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This is definitely the truth? Or at least the truth as we know it?
I guess this will give us all time to get used to it before it happens. This is a sad, sad day. What bothers me the most is why can't the editors portray them as at least tolerable?
Just you wait. I predict that their edit gets more and more positive as the F3 approaches.
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I still want as many of Jen's Death Stares as possible as long as she and Nate are in the race. They're the best. :cmaslol :cmaslol :cmaslol :lol3: :lol3:
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ugh. no other comment than "ugh".
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You mean this isn't a joke? It's real?! If I was suicidal, I'd really be tempted to slit my wrists! I simply can't stand Nathan & Jennifer! (:;) I hope Puddin's wrong and they don't win!
Belle Book
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This is definitely the truth? Or at least the truth as we know it?
I guess this will give us all time to get used to it before it happens. This is a sad, sad day. What bothers me the most is why can't the editors portray them as at least tolerable?
Just you wait. I predict that their edit gets more and more positive as the F3 approaches.
Exactly - the write-up says that a normally bickering team works together well in Italy, which would be Nate/Jenny - that'll be the foundation for them to have a healthier relationship through the race all the way to the finish line (:;) Pretty much like when Kendra won.
The alternative is that everyone else gets more of a loser edit - Nick/Gramps bickering, Kynt/Vyksin hitting the skids - it would be tough with Ron/Chris given their reconciliation and for TK/Rachel given their...blandness and general niceness towards each other.
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Initially when Puddin said that Nathan & Jennifer won, his/her "Muhahaha!" bit convinced me it might just be a joke. But now that others are thinking it's serious, I must ask Puddin what evidence there is that actually suggests a Nathan & Jennifer win.
I guess I'm just finding it very hard to accept that a team I so thoroughly dislike might actually win. Sure, there have been teams I didn't like a whole lot, but I wound up accepting it largely because I didn't see the people as complete asses or bitches. In fact, while I didn't like Freddy & Kendra (whose win most people are comparing to a possible Nathan & Jennifer win) and I certainly didn't like Kendra's attitude in Senegal, I didn't hate them half as much as Jonathan & Victoria, so I was able to accept their win more easily.
Belle Book
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Evidence? Well ...I don't have pictures, I wasn't there as in "not" an eyewitness, but what I do have is a reliable source that passed something onto me.
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puddin we want photos, arrival of the teams, AND if possible a video of them checking in! :jam:
no I'm joking, obviously, but can relate to Belle Book desperately hoping it is wrong.
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Belle Book, please note that puddin has over 50,000 posts on RFF. She is the moderator for The Amazing Race and she has an incredible track record over the years of preciting what happens in Amazing Races. In addition, she was the author of the infamous BootList for AR11(All Stars) which was unfortunately all too accurate.
There is nobody that has more credibility on predictions than puddin. The old phrase "when E.F.Hutton talks, people listen", is transposed here into "when puddin predicts, take it to the bank."
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Puddin..... for as long as I have reading your posts for TAR ALL STAR and TAR 12, I place my trust on your source. :xmas49
However, it will be awfully NICE if we have even a slightnest of evidence in the upcoming days.... I guess that will satisfy everyone :yess:
As for "I hate you with a passion" winning, personally I am not as disappointed as Belle Book is.. I think Belle Book is upset cuz of what was a complete "a$$clown" image of Nate/Jen. But I think this is mostly due to the editing of CBS. If we look closely into the Inside Videos, most of the Videos show that they are just normal couples. So I guess the bickering part (which was/are going to be Single out by CBS) aren't that unacceptable afterall if you factor those clips in.
My 2 cents :cmas51
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i mean i hate to not support Puddin, but just to give us all hope isnt the winner supposed to be "surprising" by what Lorena and Jason said, Phil also said how this is one of the best seasons, and how he said "any team can win" and i dont see how Nate/Jenn winning supports any of that.
I'm just going to say it Ron and Christina win.
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Pretty much like when Kendra won.
I do not refer to this woman by name. From now on, please refer to her as Jabba the Hut.
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I'm just going to say it Ron and Christina win.
If you keep telling yourself that you might actually think it's going to happen only to have it ripped away from you due to a stupid "safe" task in the final city causing the team that was in first to fall into second place and then losing.
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I'm just going to say it Ron and Christina win.
If you keep telling yourself that you might actually think it's going to happen only to have it ripped away from you due to a stupid "safe" task in the final city causing the team that was in first to fall into second place and then losing.
What "safe" task? All-Stars ended in Guam, Michael ;) There was no kayaking or safes, only orienteering and plane washing :lol3:
I get and love puddin's credibility but I understand where Belle is coming from, especially given the odious winner - much like on ANTM where there was a pretty big spoiler midway through the competition which unfortunately turned true. Still, pictures and video wouldn't hurt ;)
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I guess if Puddin had said that the winners were anyone else but JenHate, then we wouldn't want proof and would believe her.
I have come round to the idea of them winning now. Not happy but c'est la vie.
And although they get odious edits on the show on the insider videos they don't seem that bad (can't believe i'm typing this)
maybe this next episode will be the start of a turnaround in their relationship. :cmas18
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i mean i hate to not support Puddin, but just to give us all hope isnt the winner supposed to be "surprising" by what Lorena and Jason said, Phil also said how this is one of the best seasons, and how he said "any team can win" and i dont see how Nate/Jenn winning supports any of that.
It can be surprising that the team that is the most hateful towards each other somehow manage to win. The other 4 teams, with some varying degrees of bickering, are pretty solid in terms of their relationship. Those two just yell and screech. The "we wanted to be first!" debacle seems to be a foreshadowing as to what's to come, and that can include a turnaround in their racing. Sure I would love to have prrof. But I've been reading spoilers here for a longer than I've posted here and I normally take her word for it.
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I really do think that im the only happy one with the final three :lol: I like the grandpa and I like Jen/Nate. Maybe with the fights they got it out of their system and knew they could win this and decided to work together. I def. believe the spoilers here, I love it!
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Belle Book, please note that puddin has over 50,000 posts on RFF. She is the moderator for The Amazing Race and she has an incredible track record over the years of preciting what happens in Amazing Races. In addition, she was the author of the infamous BootList for AR11(All Stars) which was unfortunately all too accurate.
There is nobody that has more credibility on predictions than puddin. The old phrase "when E.F.Hutton talks, people listen", is transposed here into "when puddin predicts, take it to the bank."
Actually, Apskip, I'd be more willing to believe Puddin if her source had named any other team. If the source named Kynt & Vyksin, Rachel & T.K., Ron & Christina, or even Nicholas & Donald as the winners, then I'd go along with it. It's just that the source named Nathan & Jennifer as the winners! It's just too much for me to accept without a massive struggle! I guess I'm just going to hope the source accidentally misled her for once. I just can't accept the alternative. Sorry.
Belle Book
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I guess if Puddin had said that the winners were anyone else but JenHate, then we wouldn't want proof and would believe her.
I have come round to the idea of them winning now. Not happy but c'est la vie.
And although they get odious edits on the show on the insider videos they don't seem that bad (can't believe i'm typing this)
maybe this next episode will be the start of a turnaround in their relationship. :cmas18
If you're referencing my comment, I was being sarcastic. I haven't accepted it yet (much like last time) but...yeah, they win (paddles up The Nile, waving at Chip/Kim in the process). What I would like to know is if their relationship is so healthy, then why make it look like they're about to break up? No redemption edit can cover how much J/N sucked in the beginning (spitting on the ground, calling the other girls bitches, etc) or their clear distate for each other at times ("DONT COMPARE ME TO OTHER GIRLS!" "I hate you with a passion" and the like).
I'm anticipating the turnaround of their relationship to start next episode. I also expect them to not get first until the final leg (or the first part of a TBC).
So from all the focus on the Goths, could that mean that Ron/Christina get philiminated next? They get hit with a speed bump and the possible delay puts them in last.
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Zack not your comment - but general consensus of boo hiss to jenhate
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I really don't dislike Nate. And Jenn is okay until she bugs me, then she bugs the hell out of me.
Really the only reason I don't want this team to win is due to Jenn's comments in Africa about being upset that Azaria & Hendekea won already, so they should let the other teams get a chance.
WTF....Yeah thats how you compete.
As to Puddin, well since I have been posting here, she hasn't been wrong about who wins. Starting with TTOW beating my beloved Eric & Jeremy, then her saying how she heard Tyler & James won, then getting the whole damn boot list for All Stars.
And frankly with the rumored final three, I always thought Jenn & Nate had the best chance out of those three teams.
1. They hustle and generally do tasks well.
2. Rachel & Tk get lost everywhere, and there history with tasks go from really good to terrible.
3. Nicolas & Don, sorry guys but you are just okay at tasks and don't have real hustle. And in a final leg, being quick on your feet is huge.
So really not surprised. Soon as we found out they weren't eliminated in Lithuania, I knew they very well might have won.
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The list puddin got for All Stars was so accurate, it was scary. I can't go against her if she got info about JeNation.
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:cmas18 Well puddin, you just made my day. I just picked the winners again? wow! but I agree mswood, Nate is great but Jen is just annoying. They would have been a better team if he had dumped her!
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wats up im new to the board but I have some information that I think that everyone would like to know. I currently work at the St. Regis in Dana Point, CA. And I saw TK and Rachel!!!! They checked in on December 7th and i believe they checked out on December 16th. Well anyways, the reason I believe they won was because they stayed in the presidential suite ($1600+ a night) and ran a total bill close to $15,000. As far as I am concerned this is not the lifestyle of a substitute teacher and a flower shop owner. anyways they seemed really really nice as I got to speak a few words to T.K.; and rachel is so pretty in real life. I had to tell them I was a fan of TAR and they just smiled and T.K. said cool. hahah but i am used to seeing famous people, i saw jennifer aninston and reese witherspon just to name a couple! feel free to ask me questions
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Were they able to find the room?
Each night?
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Hi Dolfan! :welcome2: :xmas49
Anything more you would like to add? Could this have been a comped or reward stay? Any idea what they were doing there? Any pictures?
Chateau! :lol3:
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wats up im new to the board but I have some information that I think that everyone would like to know. I currently work at the St. Regis in Dana Point, CA. And I saw TK and Rachel!!!! They checked in on December 7th and i believe they checked out on December 16th. Well anyways, the reason I believe they won was because they stayed in the presidential suite ($1600+ a night) and ran a total bill close to $15,000. As far as I am concerned this is not the lifestyle of a substitute teacher and a flower shop owner. anyways they seemed really really nice as I got to speak a few words to T.K.; and rachel is so pretty in real life. I had to tell them I was a fan of TAR and they just smiled and T.K. said cool. hahah but i am used to seeing famous people, i saw jennifer aninston and reese witherspon just to name a couple! feel free to ask me questions
Welcome dolfan from Atlanta? :xmas49
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Well, I hope Dolfan's assumption is correct! I'd rather have T.K. & Rachel win than Nathan & Jennifer -- I'd rather have any team win than the bickering dating couple! I've seen enough bickering couples to last a lifetime, and every time I see one I get bad flashbacks of Jonathan & Victoria!
Belle Book
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Were they able to find the room?
:cmas50 :cmas50 :cmas50
You rock, Chateau! :jam: :jam: :jam:
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I've been to the St. Regis and I can attest it is an awesome hotel. I had relatives staying there and this is truely a 5star hotel. The rooms, the entire grounds are amazing. Here's the website: http://www.stregismb.com/ (http://www.stregismb.com/)
My first thought when reading this was that perhaps it was a prize they won for coming in first on a leg. But are the racers given their vacation prizes before the finale airs on television? For some reason I thought that they couldn't cash in their prizes until after the show aired? Of course I could be wrong.
Were they able to find the room?
:cmaslol Chateau that was hilarious. I will add this though, it can be hard finding a room in that hotel. seriously. When my relatives where staying there, they gave me the room number and I proceeded to get lost in trying to find it. There are two different wings and I went right (when I should have gone left) and 20 minutes later I was as confused as could be because I was on the right floor but I couldn't find the room number. I had to ask one of the housekeeping staff where the room was. The problem for me was that if you headed left off the entrance of the hotel it takes you past shops and to conference rooms. so it can seem you are headed in the wrong direction if you don't keep on going and see the turn off to the other wing of the hotel. So yeah, finding your room is not an easy task. At least it was for me. :cmaslol
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no unfortunately I never got any pictures :cmas4 . I wish I would have whipped out my cell phone. However I do know that the stay was not comped or a reward, as T.K. used a mastercard or visa according to my manager (who is also a big fan). But I was thinking, don't they get paid after the show is done being aired? or are they just spending because they know they will be receiving the money soon?
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They get paid after the finale aired, so my guess is that it's anticipatory spending. Mind you, second place still gets 25 grand, not to mention they may have changed jobs since the race started (perhaps TK got a promotion or something).
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They get paid after the finale and all prizes are awarded after the race is finished I think.
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They get paid after the finale aired, so my guess is that it's anticipatory spending. Mind you, second place still gets 25 grand, not to mention they may have changed jobs since the race started (perhaps TK got a promotion or something).
Rumors are second-place prize for some seasons has been $25,000 or $50,000, still a nice chunk of money.
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Is that before or after taxes?
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Is that before or after taxes?
before
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And CBS does not pay the taxes. Yes, I'm talking to you, Richard Hatch.
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Yeah it sucks to be a team that wins a lot of legs yet doesn't win the race. Your split prize money gets to cover your taxes on your prizes. Isn't that awesome..... :groan:
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If Puddin says she has a reliable source, Puddin had a reliable source. If Puddin says the sun will come up tomorrow, the sun will come tomorrow.
Note that Nathan and Jennifer are getting a much better edit now; and they worked well together in Italy winning the Roadblock with ease and Nate listened well as Jenn explained how to wave and throw the flag. So they won the Detour with ease. Then went on to the pit stop only to be second to the fast forwarders, they are working well togehter and I would not be surprised at all if they win the big one million.
Your favorite team may not be a winner, but the team which runs the race well usually wins. The New England Patriots play well, but they still may lose the Super Bowl.
And a Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night :cmas10
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Your favorite team may not be a winner, but the team which runs the race well usually wins. The New England Patriots play well, but they still may lose the Super Bowl.
Well actually most of the time the team that does better during the race comes in 2nd. Dustin and Kandice -- Colin and Christie -- Rob and Amber -- Tara and Will -- Kris and Jon -- Eric and Jeremy (well they were pretty tied with the hippies actually) -- im sure there are more.
I obviously know now based off of last year that puddin wouldn't post a spoiler she thinks is not true. I'm just hoping it isn't lol.
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Actually I have to agree with G-Man and with Michael. Usually the team that races better gets 2nd, with a few exceptions. Reichen & Chip were the first team to win that actually had the best average performance in a season the next time that happened was season 10's Tyler & James.
But usually that typical race well do win (just not usually the best).
You can be a rather poor racing team and as long as you aren't last (or are saved by non elimination or multiple non eliminations yeah Flo & Zach and BJ & Tyler I am talking about you), all you really need to is run an ok final leg, and typically do well once you reach the destination city.
To keep the possibility of a photo finish they try and assure that all teams are equalized far more then in a typical leg making it anyones game.
As to the edit, of Jenn & Nathan. I don't think they were edited in a positive light this last episode, I think they were just much more positive. Even in clips they never lose it even when frustrated with being lost. And this does happen. Now obviously they could have been doing a smackdown on each other and never make the aired footage or the online material (nature of the program), but I don't believe this was the case in this episode. Usually when they are doing well and not having big problems they tend to get along much better. Now if they had gotten passed, by other teams I would imagine the stress to get far greater and see more frustration and anger. This episode was much closer to episode #2, 3, and 4 where they typical were in or near the front of the pack. Episode 1 when they went from 2nd to having no luck (or skill with animals) to next to last, hell yes tempers were up. Episode 5, when they go from front of the pack to mid pack and have trouble with navigation and with tasks the anger and frustration comes out. In #6, while they were in near the front of the pack they didn't know it, they didn't know where the other teams were. And this seems to be a team when they have problems they fight.. When things go well, they usually are pretty descent to each other.
I think India might be a huge shock for them....he, he.
India is great for that.
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I thought Flo and Zack too had the best average of the final three in their season, maybe not but i thought after looking back they actually kicked butt most of that season. Rob and Brennan were better than Frank and Marg too, but who really knows they were so close it wasnt as obvious. and the LINZ family was the best too i believe. But thats like ages ago!
With the TK and Rachel thing you never know, for all we know they can be natuarally rich [rich mommy or daddy] or maybe even they won the trip who knows. So i dont know if we can really trust that. However if people know they win they will splurge before they get the money. I believe Sandra in Survivor PI was spending up the wazoo cause she knew she had at least 100K.
I mean between TK and Rachel's lameness and Nathan and Jen's nastiness i dont know what one is worse!
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I know this isn't a spoiler but a fun little fact.
Averages from the F3 in the order they finished along with the most legs they won. The team in bold is statistically the best team that season.
TAR1
Rob & Brennan: 2.5 (5)
Frank & Marg: 2.5 (3)
Joe & Bill: 2.8 (1)
TAR2
Chris & Alex: 3.4 (3)
Tara & Wil: 2.5 (3)
Blake & Paige: 3.7 (2)
TAR3
Flo & Zach: 2.7 (2)
Teri & Ian: 4.5 (3)
Ken & Gerard: 2.7 (3)
TAR4
Reichen & Chip: 3.2 (2)
Kelly & Jon: 3.8 (1)
David & Jeff: 4 (4)
TAR5
Chip & Kim: 3.4 (4)
Colin & Christie: 2.5 (6)
Brandon & Nicole: 3.3 (2)
TAR6
Freddy & Kendra: 3.7 (2)
Kris & Jon: 2.2 (4)
Adam & Rebecca: 4.6 (1)
TAR7
Uchenna & Joyce: 3.2 (3)
Rob & Amber: 2.4 (4)
Ron & Kelly: 3.1 (2)
TAR8
Linz: 2.8 (2)
Bransen: 3.2 (3)
Weaver: 3.3 (1)
TAR9
BJ & Tyler: 2.3 (5)
Eric & Jeremy: 1.8 (5)
Ray & Yolanda: 4.3 (1)
TAR10
Tyler & James: 2.7 (4)
Rob & Kim: 3 (2)
Lyn & Karlyn: 5 (0)
TAR11
Eric & Danielle: 3.6 (1)
Dustin & Kandice: 2.9 (4)
Charla & Mirna: 4 (2)
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Oswald & Danny: 2.7 (3)
Number of Times the best team has finished in......
1st: Four Times
2nd: Five Times
3rd: Once
4th: Once
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Tyler, that is an interesting analysis. When I look at AR11 and compare Dustin and Kandice to Oswald and Danny I conclude that Dustin and Kandice, with their 4 leg wins and only 0.2 worse on total average, was the superior team. All the rest appear to be non-controversial for which team was statistically best.
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Puddin...what do you think about TK and Rachaels expensive stay at the hotel?
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Puddin...what do you think about TK and Rachaels expensive stay at the hotel?
I think its about a 20 some mile drive from where Rachel & TK live (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/millan/coloreyes.gif)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/millan/explanation.gif)
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We all need to pick an offical "I'm depressed because Nate and Jen won" song!
I vote for Losing My Religion - REM
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I've got some suggestions.
"Hit Me with Your Best Shot"
"Saturday's Night Alright for Fighting"
"Mama Said Knock You Out"
"War"
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How about "The Lady Is a Tramp"?
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I'll pick an "I'm depressed because Nate & Jen won" song only after it happens. I guess I'm still not willing to believe the spoiler Puddin got -- but it's not because I think the source is lying, just because I think (or hope) that the source for once got things wrong. That can happen, of course.
Belle Book
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Belle Book you are going to be disappointed :(
Believe me, I was exactly in the same position as you are in May when I was hoping that the source got the winners of TARAS wrong.
I'm not saying it's impossible that the source was wrong this time, but I just don't see it happening -- every time puddin posts something it ends up being right lol
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Belle Book you are going to be disappointed :(
Believe me, I was exactly in the same position as you are in May when I was hoping that the source got the winners of TARAS wrong.
I'm not saying it's impossible that the source was wrong this time, but I just don't see it happening -- every time puddin posts something it ends up being right lol
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Puddin you are so nice, I would have been down right evil.
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whatever, you guys need to go eat some grated oranges...especially YOU puddin :snicker:
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not sure where to put this, but whatever happened to the monsoons in India if they're heading to Japan next week >:(
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more lies from the sneaksters
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not sure where to put this, but whatever happened to the monsoons in India if they're heading to Japan next week >:(
I will never EVER believe anything that BVM has to say again :D
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Do Uall believe that Nate and Jenn win I CANT BELIEVE IT !!!!!!!!!!
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Well!!! YES I DO BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shucks it sucks
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Hell yeah we cant doubt Puddin Pie lol so if Ron and Chris out in final 4 then Nate and Jenn first second T.K and Rachel or Nic and Don aye!!
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Puddin...what do you think about TK and Rachaels expensive stay at the hotel?
I think its about a 20 some mile drive from where Rachel & TK live (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/millan/coloreyes.gif)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/millan/explanation.gif)
You're too much, puddin!!! :lol3: :funny: :rotf:
With that, I hit the sack smirking! :zzz
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HEY I KNEW THEY WERE COMING TO TAIPEI: My friend told me that he thinks he saw teams on the amazing race approaching Taipei 101. Since he wasn’t a fan, so he didn’t bother to follow them. But he DID remember a few things. When he told me his findings, I immediately grabbed him and forced him to tell me EVERYTHING because I was such a huge fan. So here it goes: around 26,27 of July as I remember- sorry I couldn’t remember the EXACT dates, he was shopping with his girlfriend in xin guang shan uiah beside Taipei 101. When he was planning to shop in 101 at noon, he saw this man and women (couples) ran out of the taxi and looked up at Taipei 101. He also saw 2 camera men running with them. However, he found it weird that the couples did not enter the Taipei 101 and were actually waiting for someone. He describes the couple as a brunette woman and a man. He said that the man seemed very athletic and fit. Since he saw that there were camera men around, he notices that this might be on TV. He continued to stay for 10 minutes and another group came which he describes as another couple which consists of a blond girl. He THINKS that there was an Asian team far behind or eliminated already because he was a good listener. When he was walking into Taipei 101, he was literally 2 feet away from the blond racer and he heard the girl say something like “I wonder what the Asians would say if they came to this place”. At first, I thought this was amazing race asia because I didn’t expect amazing race 12 to contain another asian team ever since the cho’s. Now after the official list of teams came out, I strongly believe my friend’s sightings because there were asian teams. He only saw 2 teams each holding a blue form on their hands.
Outstanding spoiler huholah :jam:!! Kudos! and thank you for bringing it here :wtg: :cheer3: :gj:
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Greenraven at sucks pointed something interesting out.
It is possible for Ron and Christina to be in the F3 now that we know they DO make it into Taiwan. We've been assuming that they are out because of that spoiler.
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PLUS, they have a huge advantage over that rest of the teams because they speak Chinese. So who knows, they may be ahead of nate and jen when they mull over where the father/daughter team might be at Taipei 101 (according to the spoiler given by huholah :D) .
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Yeah if all the spoilers are accurate from this point on. It is possible that its Nate & Jenn, Ron & Christina and Don & Nic.
But I hope not.
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Yeah if all the spoilers are accurate from this point on. It is possible that its Nate & Jenn, Ron & Christina and Don & Nic.
But I hope not.
Don't you want N/J to get to F3 only to get second place again? :snicker:
It seems like Taipei 101 is for a route info and nothing else. It would've been interesting to have them bungee jump off of (or rappel down) it instead :lol:
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It is totally possible for ANY team in the final 4 to be in the final three, Michael.
But in this case----I'm going to say that I do not believe they go further. ;)
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yeah I don't see them being in the F3 either,
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They seem to hate each other but what is breaking them up is not as strong as whats keeping them together
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OOPS :hides but YAY! :angel: :keeta:
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OOPS :hides but YAY! :angel: :keeta:
no1 ever bats 1000 on spoilers. we love you puddin
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It's okay, I'm happy it didn't work out ;)
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puddin never have i been so happy your spoiler was wrong
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Most of the viewers, yeah.
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We love you anyway! :kuss: :hugs: :kuss:
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:jam:
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Welcome to our world, Puddin; me and Peach were consistently lied to before and throughout the season. If you need defense from the lynch mob, let us know. :js: :killme:
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Welcome to our world, Puddin; me and Peach were consistently lied to before and throughout the season. If you need defense from the lynch mob, let us know. :js: :killme:
Thanks guys but its okay, we might get the happy ending we were looking for afterall :kuss:
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i honestly thought ron and chris were going to get lost on the way to the pitstop. i was expecting it until they came in 1st
when it came down to gramps and nic and nate and jen
i knew nate and jen were gone unless the alaska spoilers were bs
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hey Slowhatch!! it is almost time to start all over again!
Should we :hides: or be :happy: ??
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Don't worry, Puddin. I'm not going to rag on you -- much. :lol3:
I'm just going to celebrate the long-awaited elimination of Nathan & Jennifer and hope for a Ronald & Christina win! I'm not going to hide under a chair -- and I probably wouldn't have even if Ron & Christina had been eliminated and not my least-favorite team!
Belle Book
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So at least we know that TK and Rachel have enough money to pay for their fancy hotel stay.
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You rock, puddin. Still. :jam: :jam: :jam: :jam:
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I really don't think I was lied to, I honestly believe that the person passed on what they were told was in good faith, so someone lied but really its over what can I say? And yeah I had a gut feeling the past few days that something was wrong, just little things I heard but stood behind the spoiler but really is it so bad? Like most of you I didn't want them to win. Now its anyones game.
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puddin you don't even need to justify yourself to us!
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Should we :hides : or be :happy: ??
Go ahead, just keep the bag handy. :lol:
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That's some grains there for sure! :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
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Maybe that info about TK/Rachel staying in that expensive hotel DOES mean something and they do win. Boy, that would suck. Most boring team ever.
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Maybe that info about TK/Rachel staying in that expensive hotel DOES mean something and they do win. Boy, that would suck. Most boring team ever.
F3 gets $10,000 and even after taxes that's enough for a night or two in a nice hotel (or maybe he was there for part of a teaching inservice and he brought Rachel along with him). Loose spending isn't necessarily anticipatory.
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NONE of the prizes are awarded until after the race airs on TV, at least that's how it was in the past.
Just because they stayed in an expensive hotel does not indicate that they win.
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Yeah but think about it. Taxes will leave roughly 60% of that income. And that isn't a lot. YOu also have to consider that most teams also loose revenue from missed work roughly a months pay (unless they can or have vacation time to use). That cuts into it even further.
And teams are known for being a little more free with money after they have won the million, so its very possible.
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Would they spend almost all of their money on some hotel if they won the 10K(more like 6k after taxes)? No, it seems like something someone would do if they anticipated getting one million dollars pretty soon.
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or maybe they just wanted to use some of their own money to go to an expensive hotel and have sex!!
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I recall Tyler, TAR10 winner, was rumored to have bought a house ....before the finale aired.
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Posting about spending lots of money in a fancy hotel would be an excellent planted smokescreen..... :angel:
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or maybe they just wanted to use some of their own money to go to an expensive hotel and have sex!!
for all that money, it must of been one hell of a night
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I know here in Rhode Island, Richard Hatch was seen remodeling his house before the Survivor I finale aired.
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I know here in Rhode Island, Richard Hatch was seen remodeling his house before the Survivor I finale aired.
times have changed, he had the money then. they dont do that anymore
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back to spoilers or non-spoilers
as much as I love them
I am glad that there was no leaked "boot-list" for this series :wohoo:
I love the where spoilers but as for the who i like the nail biting - like tonight
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I've got some terrible news. As most of you guys love TK & Rachel as well as myself. I have now found out by the manager who told me the cost of their stay and all the details was messing with me because he knew how much I was into the show. I called him right after the episode as I was in disbelief on how he could be correct, he then revealed to me that TK was there with some teaching friends and they were there at the restaurant. I CANT BELIEVE HE LIED TO ME!! oh well, they still have a chance to win. But there was no $15,000 stay. I only saw them when they first checked in so I never could see how long the duration was. SO, bottomline is that they were there for a measly 2 hours!! I hope I didnt bum you guys. You can thank my manager.
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Wow, that's harsh, but I'm glad you got that cleared up.
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I've got some terrible news. As most of you guys love TK & Rachel as well as myself. I have now found out by the manager who told me the cost of their stay and all the details was messing with me because he knew how much I was into the show. I called him right after the episode as I was in disbelief on how he could be correct, he then revealed to me that TK was there with some teaching friends and they were there at the restaurant. I CANT BELIEVE HE LIED TO ME!! oh well, they still have a chance to win. But there was no $15,000 stay. I only saw them when they first checked in so I never could see how long the duration was. SO, bottomline is that they were there for a measly 2 hours!! I hope I didnt bum you guys. You can thank my manager.
Thanks for clearing that up and coming clean dolfan, I highly respect you for that.
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im just glad he admitted it cuz watching the show sucks when u think u know the winner. thats why i am happy that everything is clear. the nate and jenn thing turned out to be a bust and the tk and rachel thing was falsely reported to me. i just cant wait till the final episode!!!
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Thanks for sharing dolfan!
IA with you -- it's much more exciting watching without knowing anything.
My heart was racing tonight when it was down to Nick and Don vs Nate and Jen since we had a sighting of Gramps but a spoiler for Nate and Jen to win.
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Oh thank god. I don't think I would be able to stomach a TK/Rachel win.
Unless, of course, you're trying to cover your tracks now :lol:
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Oh thank god. I don't think I would be able to stomach a TK/Rachel win.
Unless, of course, you're trying to cover your tracks now :lol:
tk and rachel were really really really cool even though i only got to say hello. they are by far my favorite. btw, thank god ron was driving the car on top of the ramp, or they would have been eliminated. haha jk.
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You rock, puddin. Still. :jam: :jam: :jam: :jam:
Indeed! :keeta:
:wohoo: to the most wrong spoiler ever!
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Oh thank god. I don't think I would be able to stomach a TK/Rachel win.
Unless, of course, you're trying to cover your tracks now :lol:
tk and rachel were really really really cool even though i only got to say hello. they are by far my favorite. btw, thank god ron was driving the car on top of the ramp, or they would have been eliminated. haha jk.
Surely and probably you jest. None of the stunts let any of the Roadblock contestants anywhere near the wheel. Ronald was in the right hand seat in a country with left hand drive(just like most of the non-British world). The stunt driver did all of the "rocking". The same happened underwater. The woman stunt driver did all the navigation and making sure that it was exactly 17 seconds under water.
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im so happy that nate and jen was eliminated... puddin, u did a great job of misleading us! hahahahah!!!! im so scared that nick and don will be eliminated bcoz of the spoiler but its all fake!! hahaha!!! im excited for the final leg!!!
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im so happy that nate and jen was eliminated... puddin, u did a great job of misleading us! hahahahah!!!! im so scared that nick and don will be eliminated bcoz of the spoiler but its all fake!! hahaha!!! im excited for the final leg!!!
Seriously, do us all a favor and go back where you came from flipadfoot, your so clueless.
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im so happy that nate and jen was eliminated... puddin, u did a great job of misleading us! hahahahah!!!! im so scared that nick and don will be eliminated bcoz of the spoiler but its all fake!! hahaha!!! im excited for the final leg!!!
Seriously, do us all a favor and go back where you came from flipadfoot, your so clueless.
You tell 'em :yess: Even if you mean you're the thought is the same. Amen :lol3:
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I just dropped by to say that we ought to start taking that St. Regis spoiler more seriously. Ha! Oh, well. There's something fun in not knowing *every* time. I got nothing from the Nate & Jen party last night, spoilerwise.
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if nate and jenn did win, they could be sued for lots of money for letting go of the truth or revealing. or puddin's reliable source could be in serious trouble. I know that TAR and several other similar shows make the contestants sign a contract for any information getting leaked. So, it was after all i good thing that the source was wrong...although i would have liked to have seen the money taken away from nate and jenn!
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Well, sources aren't generally in trouble because their identity is kept hidden for that very reason. Keep in mind, some sources can be lied to or believe something they are saying to be 100% true only to find out that they have been fooled all along.
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I really don't think I was lied to, I honestly believe that the person passed on what they were told was in good faith, so someone lied but really its over what can I say? And yeah I had a gut feeling the past few days that something was wrong, just little things I heard but stood behind the spoiler but really is it so bad? Like most of you I didn't want them to win. Now its anyones game.
No, I never thought you were being lied to. You both were misinformed, that's all. Anyway, the only reason why I didn't want to believe your spoiler was because the possibility of those two winning was too horrible to contemplate, but even then I thought you were just misinformed.
Belle Book
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But I know. :neener:
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But I know. :neener:
Be careful Chateau, they will come out of the wood work, through holes in the ground ..just wait, you'll see, lol
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But I know. :neener:
Be careful Chateau, they will come out of the wood work, through holes in the ground ..just wait, you'll see, lol
like cloverfield?
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But I know. :neener:
Be careful Chateau, they will come out of the wood work, through holes in the ground ..just wait, you'll see, lol
....cockroach's
like cloverfield?
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Remember this:
But I know. :neener:
I had it right! Ask Peach. :jam:
Rachel in Long Beach: "I'm not saying a word because I don't want to break the confidentiality agreement" was written all over her body. :snicker:
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heres the lithuana film permit site.
Production : The Amazing Race
Client: World Race Productions
Producer: Bertram van Munster
Director: Bertram van Munster
Year: 2007
Location: Lithuania
Link: http://alpha.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race12/
Synopsis
WRP’s Emmy Award winning series comes to Lithuania. Teams of couples race around the world to win one million dollars.
http://www.bfs.eu.com/index.php?cid=1055