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8/5 Friday updates cont.......
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{l{ Janelle just told James that she pretended she was eating .
They are in the HOH room Maggie is in the HOH bathroom sick . She cant eat dairy products and feels awful .
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sorry, I had a T-Storm and the power went out ......
HOH room chat
April asks if things are the same as they were last night with voting:
Rachel: You guys screwed it up last week, plain and simple, and we took a loss. Because he didn't go out the door.
April :they wanted him out.
Rachel: Why didn't you put him and Sarah both up?
April says she doesn't know.
Rachel: It was a big mistake, and we took a loss because of it
Howie says that strategically, he sat down with Maggie and had a good talk, about how they wanted to go back to playing a good, clean game
Howie: Eric could come back...sounds good now, but you guys have a good friendship.
You are inseperable., the problem is what protects us ?
April: We have all said, number one, let's say I have HOH next week, you know I'm going to put him up. Bottom line, yes, he is going to backstab us and he is gonna backstab you guys. Yes, I'm friends with Maggie and those guys, just like I'm friends with ya'll
Rachel asks how they can possibly risk giving James a chance to save himself with POV?
Howie says what if they put up James and Sarah, and then he get POV, they say they will get rid of him the next week, but who is to say that they won't do the same thing and miss taking him out again that week? Who is to say James won't take himself off again with POV?
April says that the other group never made any alliance. They only said they would be truthful with each other. She says that she never promised anything, so if she has to put up Beau or Ivette, she will.
Howie: But you will put up Howie, Rachel and Janelle before you will do that.
April: I know it seems like that, but..
Howie tells her that it is a game to him, and he wants to win the same as she wants to win!
April says that they shouldn't feel like James won't put them up, he swore on the Bible that he would! Rachel and Howie say they KNOW James will put them up, won't hesitate to do it.
Rachel: Maggie is the one who screwed it up. She screwed it up,sheshould have put them both up together, and she screwed it up.
April says she knows that there will be a double eviction week.
Rachel: OK, say James goes up and we take him out? What if Sarah comes back? Where is out guarantee she won't come after us?
April: If I win it, I swear on my life I am going after Sarah.
April: I don't want this to be a numbers game, guys.
Maggie comes to the bed to talk, with Rachel, Howie and April.
Howie: We took a hit because of it. If we do this and Eric comes back.
Howie says that they have all developed a bond, although they don't want to admit it, the next week it will be Janelle, Rachel or Howie that will be gone.
Maggie: I'd agree. We all hate him. I know he is bad. I know he is bad. I just don't want to be played. He is still here. What if he wins it.
Rachel: Sorry. The way I see it, we're screwed and we have a double-edged sword. We have to figure out which edge is the sharpest.
Maggie asks if they are saying they are the sharpest edge? Rachel says that they are worried about themselves, just as Maggie would be. She says that if Eric comes back in the house, then who is to say he will go after Sarah? How would that benefit him? Because that is the agreement we made
Maggie says that she can understand and see their point that it would benefit them to have one of them gone, she won't deny that, but......
James called to DR.
Maggie says she wants James and Sarah out, and if they want her to she will stand up and say so. April says they all will.
April says that if Sarah is taken out, next week James is after Howie. Howie agrees and says he knows it!
Maggie:That's not gonna happen. As soon as he goes up, he will become the angriest person you have ever seen
April: He will still wheel and deal. He didn't even know Kaysar and right after he went up he came up here
Rachel says that she never felt she had any support. Maggie says she thought they knew because of what she said. Rachel says they walk into the room and the others changed the subject.
April tells them that James was saying Howie and Rachel are the most dangerous people in the house.
Howie says that last night was his most stressful time in the house.
April: OK, what can I promise to get that mo ****er out of the house next week
Rachel: We want to make sure we both get to the sequester
Maggie: Oh. done is that what you all want ?
Rachel: That's the minimum
Maggie: Ok, so two weeks? Done.
April says that if Eric comes back and they put Sarah up, if she volunteers to be the pawn, they have to swear they will keep them and not Sarah.
April says Sarah came up there and did all of James' dirty work. She says they should all be civil, but...
April: I can deal with her. James, I can't even look at because of all he has done to people in this house.
Rachel says that James ability to win POV are strong
April: Then we'll all fight together to get him out next week
Rachel: See, we're saying two weeks. Next week and another week. We're safe this week already
Maggie:I gotta be honest. You're asking for a lot
April: Kaysar tried to plan for three weeks
Maggie: I have to be honest, I can't blame them for asking that. I haven't done it, but I can't blame them for doing it. That means that in three weeks, one of us is going home
April says that bad things happen when you preplan too many weeks.
Jen is in the room now.
Rachel says that Michael could come back, or Eric could, and they have to consider that now.
Maggie says that Eric doesn't know any of the things that happened with James
Rachel: Maggie gets it. I mean, you understand where we are coming from
Maggie: You have to understand that puts us in a bind, asking for three weeks
Rachel says yes, and you will have James and Sarah gone
Maggie: You are asking us to put up one of our own people
April says she doesn't like to think in terms of our people and your peopl
Rachel says they need to understand their position
Maggie says that they need to understand that James is not part of their group. He is not one of their voters in their group
Rachel says that he is in his OWN group, but he could vote with them.
Beau bangs on the door, and comes into the room
James and Janelle break up the convo. They come in talking loudly about chess.
Maggie whispers: I don't blame you guys for wanting something...I don't know.. I can't speak for these people
April: Don't talk about us as a group.
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Rachel says that they felt that the other team knew about what James was doing. Maggie says they didn't. She says that Rachel and Howie stopped talking to her. Rachel says Maggie stopped talking to them
Rachel points out that they celebrated when James won POV. Maggie and April deny this. They point out that Ivette did
Maggie: And that was a problem
Beau says it was even a problem for him
Maggie says that they sat around Ivette talking to her, and she was nearly in tears because they were asking her what the ****
April says that Ivette proved herself by taking out James in the HOH comp. She took him out.
Howie: I told you before that I am a strategical player
He tells them that he will look at all moves and decide on the ones that are to their best advantage.
Rachel says that they all have to expect a ****storm if they put James on the block. They all say they don't care. They are prepared for it. They say that if Kaysar comes back, James will be talking to him and offering him people.
April says to keep in mind that they never said they wanted Howie and Rachel out.... James said that
April: He even was selling out Janelle, he was selling out Janelle, as well
Howie: He'd sell out his own mother to stay in the game
Maggie: Here's what I want, I want people in the house that when they make a promise, you can believe them.
Janelle comes in and they all greet her, saying they are having a great conversation
April: That mother ****er
Janelle asks what they are talking about, and Howie says they are talking about putting James on the block. <laughs>
Maggie: We are talking about the biggest problems in this house, the two of them are probably downstairs right now ****ting in their pants. Because we are all up here talking.
Rachel: It's a big fricking mess, and we talked about how we wanted to backdoor him
Ivette: We're not gonna do that?
Rachel: It's not a guarantee that we can do that. It's a risk, and he is gunning for us.
Maggie: Howie, you are a great competitor when you want to be. Are you gonna pick Rachel to play for you?
Janelle: You can pick me if you want to
Maggie: I understand the situation, but it wouldn't be that horrible of a thing if Sarah went home.
Beau says it is best if Sarah and James can't play for each other with POV.
April says it is best if they know for sure that one of them is going home. Then the next week they will work on getting out the other one.
Janelle: What if the person who wins won't do that? What if Eric comes back and gets HOH?
Maggie; He wouldn't have a f 'ing choice , I gave you my word, and he knows what that means.
Janelle: Michael will want James gone
April says Kaysar wants James gone
April: He said that you have to get Sarah and James out back to back
Jen: Here comes James again
James comes in the room and asks how Maggie feels , she says horrable
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