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TAR 35 (formerly called 36): Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Zack.:
To what purpose would the show have to have a misogynistic edit (noting that editing is different from the actual casting or production of the race)? I recognize and agree with many of the criticisms levied against the show for how it casts all-female teams and to an extent how the challenges are structures but I can't agree with the editing being pro-this final three solely because they're all-male teams. In the last two weeks alone, Joe & Ian got a terrible edit while Liam & Yeremi got a good edit but even then the show was emphasizing how bad they were at the actual racing elements. My memory of modern seasons of TAR also do not suggest the show is edited to be pro-male (if anything it may be in the opposite direction, with people like Akbar and Dusty or teams like Will & James or Leo & Jamal having their better moments edited out or Raquel & Cayla's increasingly tense interactions edited out).
From what the cast has suggested, Anna-Leigh's competitive nature, Morgan & Leana's bickering, Robbin & Chelsea's brusque nature are the only real sources of conflict (and honestly these all pale in comparison to the conflict seen in the past) and even with that, the edit has shown multiple facets of all of these women - Anna-Leigh's relationship with her father went on a journey throughout the course of this episode, Morgan & Lena's bickering is a manifestation of their admitted issues in communication which I daresay they were cast for, and Robbin & Chelsea have had opportunities to explain why they come across as brash to other racers.
I recognize there are multiple ways of watching a season of TAR, but I think there's no point to watching the episodes if you already knew the final three in July and have deemed the season to be irredeemable as a result. I know the thread that I'm in so seeing bitching and moaning is par for the course but the argument of the edit being misogynistic feels rooted in bad faith. I could be wrong, and respect your ability to have an opinion either way.
kyleisalive:
--- Quote from: Zack. on November 12, 2023, 10:04:14 PM ---To what purpose would the show have to have a misogynistic edit (noting that editing is different from the actual casting or production of the race)? I recognize and agree with many of the criticisms levied against the show for how it casts all-female teams and to an extent how the challenges are structures but I can't agree with the editing being pro-this final three solely because they're all-male teams. In the last two weeks alone, Joe & Ian got a terrible edit while Liam & Yeremi got a good edit but even then the show was emphasizing how bad they were at the actual racing elements. My memory of modern seasons of TAR also do not suggest the show is edited to be pro-male (if anything it may be in the opposite direction, with people like Akbar and Dusty or teams like Will & James or Leo & Jamal having their better moments edited out or Raquel & Cayla's increasingly tense interactions edited out).
From what the cast has suggested, Anna-Leigh's competitive nature, Morgan & Leana's bickering, Robbin & Chelsea's brusque nature are the only real sources of conflict (and honestly these all pale in comparison to the conflict seen in the past) and even with that, the edit has shown multiple facets of all of these women - Anna-Leigh's relationship with her father went on a journey throughout the course of this episode, Morgan & Lena's bickering is a manifestation of their admitted issues in communication which I daresay they were cast for, and Robbin & Chelsea have had opportunities to explain why they come across as brash to other racers.
I recognize there are multiple ways of watching a season of TAR, but I think there's no point to watching the episodes if you already knew the final three in July and have deemed the season to be irredeemable as a result. I know the thread that I'm in so seeing bitching and moaning is par for the course but the argument of the edit being misogynistic feels rooted in bad faith. I could be wrong, and respect your ability to have an opinion either way.
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I feel much the same as this and echo my sentiment from a couple months ago. It’s a massively problematic take to approach a program by insisting it tips the scales for women, providing a disingenuous result to support FF teams just because equality. Similarly, spitting in the face of a season which has shown us a number of nuanced stories of complex women is crazy to me. I don’t particularly care for Robbin and Chelsea (due to their approach to the race), but they made the choices they did this season. And more than that, I think Robbin’s story is inspirational. She’s a fascinating person with a tumultuous history persevering through life.
But OP would never know. It’s more important not to prop up the existing casting choices because not only did they jump the gun and spoil the season for themselves months in advance, but they can’t come to terms with a result that don’t fit their take that FF teams are the only ones who should benefit. This becomes a show, to them, that’s no longer about the race, but about combatting inequality. Unfortunately, the producers aren’t aware of this.
That, or like I’ve been saying, it’s facetious. But since I’ve been told otherwise, it’s just a deceptively non-feminist take. More problematically, it’s an uninformed take. It’s like never having had a woman doctor in your life and assuming there’s never been a woman doctor, so the world needs to change.
georgiapeach:
It also shows clearly that the final 3 is determined by whoever ran the best. Production isn't knocking out a male team to give us a variety finale.
The Finale is whatever three teams get to the end. Period.
Maanca:
Yeah, I give them credit. The FF teams in this season are definitely trying their hardest (Robbin & Chelsea won a leg), so they don't feel like "cannon fodder" casting. I'd agree more with Brannock if they all went out early.
kyleisalive:
--- Quote from: Maanca on November 13, 2023, 03:55:14 PM ---Yeah, I give them credit. The FF teams in this season are definitely trying their hardest (Robbin & Chelsea won a leg), so they don't feel like "cannon fodder" casting. I'd agree more with Brannock if they all went out early.
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The first five legs of the race had at least one female racer arrive on the mat in first place.
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