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The Amazing Race: Design Challenge VIII - Final Round Design Show on Page 50!
BourkieBoy:
Well, I thought my leg was pretty good, until I crashed and burned once I read Gamer's comments! :lol: :funny:
It's been fun! Designing in a rural area is pretty hard, so I'm pretty happy with my work! :)
Thank you for your comments Gamer, it's certainly something to work on for Design Challenge 9! :funny: :lol:
Air:
I just want to point out that there has been a bit of a judging discrepancy in the judges' comments from what I've seen, particularly between the judging of established users and new ones. It seems that in the comments provided so far, established users are able to skate by when new users are not. I'm writing this particularly concerning totumo's leg, who got a lukewarm reception and were given critiques such as "not providing estimates for how long you think the task should be", and betheactress' leg, which was critiqued as "not providing enough details", and regarding a search Roadblock in which a team needs to search through a specific area to find specific objects, were posed questions like "How big of an area are teams searching in?" and "Are they given a map or told the boundaries of the area?". This is compared to the reception of (sorry to pick on you) Declive's leg, which did not get these criticisms despite not providing estimates of how long each task will take, and having a similar search Roadblock which again did not have a map or provide details of a boundary. It's disheartening to see these critiques applied selectively to new users, as it discourages them from continuing to participate in the future of RFF.
I think it's important to remember that longevity of time spent on RFF does not equate to a good design, and that judges should not let their personal relationships or unconscious biases that they may have after spending time on RFF together get in the way of their judging.
Pi:
Air, thanks for bringing this up. For me personally, details are very important to understand the leg from the perspective of a judge. Different judges may have different criteria for how they view a leg; for some, envisioning how the leg would appear on TV is most important, or maybe potential for drama is key to another. This is why we have 4 different judges and 4 different viewpoints and 4 different scores to average together when all is said and done.
The goal of this round in particular is for the designers to improve, so I always try to ask questions or find places where they could add more explanation whether it's a design I would give a 49 or a 4.9.
--- Quote ---Try to think of any questions that might arise when someone else looks at your design, then answer them somewhere in your presentation.
--- End quote ---
My comments are attempting to encourage designers to think of their design from every angle and include ample details. Just because I ask one designer a lot of questions doesn't mean they will necessarily get a low score. My scoring criteria is based on 10 different categories, and I of course make every attempt to be as objective as possible when scoring. Specifically in regards to comments on Declive's leg, that was the first set of comments I wrote as he was the first to submit his leg, so they may not include questions from vantage points I had gained after reading other designs. In regards to betheactress' leg, I thought there could have been a couple more details in a few small areas. They ended up scoring highly in details overall, and omitting a small detail here and there isn't something that I thought dragged down the presentation significantly or anything.
I can't give away too much here, but for the designs I have scored so far, there's less than a 2 point difference between average scores of vets and average scores of newbies. None of the comments are meant to come across as harsh, they're all about constructive criticism and growth. I hope this clears things up, and feel free to raise more concerns if you have them! :)
Declive:
I'm fine with the comment, Air.
I want fairness in the game as well.
I also think all criteria must apply to everyone as well.
If you criticized someone because they forgot X, make sure to criticize everyone else who forgot X as well.
Kamineko:
ZBC Company's leg just edited in here. :tup:
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