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nrh2110:

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Gamer's Final Judgments:

In third, we have...



Route:

Show contentJapan - Still love this leg. Your best submission and a very very strong start.

Tibet - Removing the Head to Head element out of the monk task is enough to say this leg is already better than the original submission. It is a busy and atmospheric mountain leg that just works.

Brunei - Like your Kite Roadblock and the school bus task. But I’m not sure about the sudden forced bunch at the end. I get that it’s three teams tops, but it still feels off to suddenly force teams to be split into threes 15 minutes apart when the next task is right before the Pit Stop and is just a sports task. Otherwise this is an alright leg that is really hurt by that final structure.

New Zealand - Unfortunately still not a fan of this leg minus the cooking Roadblock and it feels a little bit too short.

Maldives - Not a fan of the Speed Bump, but I like the trash collecting Roadblock. The Detour… I think the time spent on the trip is a little bit too long, and a long boat ride for a Detour choice when we already had a boat ride like that in Brunei feels off. A shame because both options as tasks are actually pretty good. I also heavily appreciate how your leg focused on showcasing the locations, but the tasks aren’t exactly there.

Egypt - This is a heavy Egyptian mythology leg but the papyrus Detour isn’t very exciting, unfortunately. I do love your Fast Forward and Roadblock though!

Finland - Same thoughts as the original submission, but I do appreciate the extra task of eating the local delicacy.

Finland 2 - See, as much as I find this leg objectively not very cultural minus Santa, this leg proves how being cultural doesn’t always mean bad. Absolutely loved this leg as a winter theme. The Detour being luck vs. delivery is a good strategic choice, the Roadblock is a bit too similar to TAR14 Chekhov but works better since there’s a memory element, and the Angry Birds task + huskies just work. It’s not a very original leg, but it’s a ton of fun, and that’s what matters for this leg. Great job.

Three Country Leg - First off, appreciate the concept. Secondly, I’m not sure how to feel about Andorra just being used for a mountain bike task. Ditto with France for the newspaper task. Lastly, your Detour is actually very good but I have issues with feasibility. I get that the difficulty in the dishes is the sheer amount of food + memory, but I think 32/40 is still too much. As for the other Detour, I’m not sure about how the safety will work. I think teams are better off just finding the people to do the stack instead of doing it themselves. As a whole, interesting concept but the execution could have been better.

Peru - Did you forget to include your second Detour option? I don’t see it at all in the Wiki. I can’t judge this properly as a Detour with a U-Turn if I can’t see the other option. Otherwise Lay it Down is a fine task. Your Speed Bump being a leadup to the Roadblock is also good. I appreciate having them be able to see what the Roadblock is presumably while doing their Speed Bump which can help the last place team strategize prematurely. Makes it a bit more fair. I also like your extra tasks! Honestly, just disappointing that the other Detour option isn’t here on the Wiki, because otherwise this is a very very solid leg, and I like that the Speed Bump is nearer to the end of the leg to prevent teams just U-Turning the Speed Bumped team.

Costa Rica - Love the juggling Roadblock. Sip and Serve as a Detour though… while I like Sip a lot, I think Serve is a bit too unfeasible to require teams to cook that much, wouldn’t you say? I think just making an intricate special as a cooking task would work much better. Also not a fan of the limited stations at Final Four when these tasks don’t really feel like they’re that cramped feasibly. The Sack Race ARI is fun! This is a good leg minus your cooking Detour.

Finale

Show contentThe Superman Roadblock lol <3 Considering how prevalent superhero movie culture is right now, I appreciate this! The polaroid task is good, the Pierogi task adds some culture to the leg, and then we go to NASA. Your final Roadblock is very very interesting concept-wise. And then… Finish Line? That was fast lol.
Overall Route + Finale Thoughts:

Show contentFinale Thoughts - While I really loved the idea of your final leg being Hollywood then NASA (because ALL STARS hehe), I think your finale had to have an extra task or two. It just feels pretty short, and that’s really just a shame for me because otherwise I do like this finale a lot. I just wish you added an extra task or memory element somewhere. Still a good finale though and hypothetically speaking, the best TAR All Stars finale already :)

Route - NRH, no matter what happens, please know that just by making it to the end, you have achieved the pleasure of saying that you were a Design Challenge finalist. Not everyone can say that, and you should be very proud of even getting here. That said, I thought your route was a relatively mixed bag. While I think it started off excellent, I had quite a bit of issues after all the way to the end. Locations are on point though, which will definitely be your selling point. Good job!
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Thanks Gamer for your comments.

I've been super busy these last couple of months (hence why even in my own game and the game i've been participating in I wasn't involved as I had been months ago) so when I work on things here it's typically late at night and that's what happened with the wiki—I was probably super tired when reading it over and missed my errors—1) I actually meant to take out the bunching in Brunei as I originally had them going to the Sumbiling Eco Village which is more difficult to get to, but I ended up ditching that and I forgot to remove it I guess. 2) You're right, I totally forgot to add the 2nd Detour in Peru, but just as an FYI, it's the same thing as my submission for the South America round.

Maldives — I think this is very different from Brunei, and as I believe I put it in the notes or my wiki, the submarine ride is shorter than a typical submarine ride to make it feasible and also equal to the other Detour. Brunei's task was more about navigating and driving a boat whereas this Detour is sitting in a submarine and remembering the marine life that is pointed out, which uses totally different skills from the Brunei task.

Finland 2 — I actually completely forgot about the Chekhov task, tbh I've only watched TAR14 like once or twice and the last time was probably at least four or so years ago

Three Leg — Andorra is impossible to access by air, so I set it up in France, but didn't really want France to be the highlight of the leg, so the photojournalism task was just a simple ARI to set up the leg while staying culturally relevant to the photojournalism festival of France (and I could picture Phil giving a whole spiel about the fest to introduce the task). The thing that Andorra is really known for is its landscape which is made perfect for extreme sports like skiing and mountain biking—in fact, this place where the roadblock is is one of the best mountain biking places in the world. This race needed more physical tasks and I figured this was a perfect task to incorporate in, while also highlighting the beauty of its landscape. I will agree with you that your points on Barcelona are valid, and maybe that's something I should've considered for both tasks (maybe even lowering the 8 fake dishes to 1 or 2).

Costa Rica — I think maybe I should've made it more clear, but the daily special at a typical soda isn't like a daily special menu you see at restaurants elsewhere; it's like an entree with a side dish of like beans and rice, so really not a lot of food to cook nor is it too difficult.

Cleveland — I'm not too sure about it being too short but that's maybe bc it's been a while since I've watched the older finales that had more tasks. Can't really argue much more on that, but glad that you liked everything else!

Hope this helps clarify things a little, I appreciate all the feedback you've given this entire race!

gamerfan09:
Gotcha NRH, and I realized just now that Peru was a resubmission. I'll re-edit my thoughts accordingly for that leg and consider your clarifications. Thank you!  :conf:

Nuku:
Thanks so much gamer!! really appreciate all the positive comments, and respect and understand the negative ones!! thanks for all the help through the journey!!

jw, what does thoughts stand for peru mean??

gamerfan09:

--- Quote from: Nuku on December 20, 2020, 06:33:10 AM ---Thanks so much gamer!! really appreciate all the positive comments, and respect and understand the negative ones!! thanks for all the help through the journey!!

jw, what does thoughts stand for peru mean??

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Thoughts stand mean to say that how I feel about the general core of your Peru leg which was an earlier submission (the Detour + Roadblock) is still how I feel about it now in spite of the changes :tup:

Bookworm:
Thanks for the feedback, gamer

Having three culinary tasks in a row is an oversight I can't excuse; I had designed each separately. I will say, though, that the focus is only explicitly on cooking in Leg 2. The Leg 3 Detour specializes more on navigation, whereas Leg 4 has a decoration component. I can understand why Croatia fell flat, I was trying to exert a certain theme with it, and while it was clear to me since I've been to Zagreb, perhaps I could've communicated that better.

But, for me, that communication is through details and explanations. I understand that you find it bloated but intricacy is how I express creativity. Incorporating moving parts is something TAR often fails to do, and, for better or worse, it sets me apart. I understand your thoughts towards my finale, but I can't help but find that your comments put me in a "damned if I do, damned if I don't" situation. If I keep a task rather simple and physical, like the teepee, it's called unoriginal- and yes, I understand TAR5 had a similar task. But when I try to try new things, like two memory tasks and a multifaceted Western task, it's frowned upon. I understand you're pressed for time, as we all have been, but what about the concept of the first Roadblock? I'm quite proud of the task and so I'd be curious to learn a little more where it all went wrong. As far as the comic task, I get that I overcomplicated it, but it was in the spirit of creating a difficult task that permits placement changes- something modern finales have been lacking.

To leave on a more positive note, I'm really glad the back half of my race is appreciated. It's a route I'm proud of and I really enjoyed making the China legs especially!

Thanks again for your feedback, and big thanks for stepping in to help co-host this season!

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