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G.B.:

--- Quote --- I was puzzled when Ran and Ben kept losing at the butterfly challenge as they seemed to cut some ropes.
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One of the ropes, when cut, would free the other team.


--- Quote ---Hi, recent discoverer of this forum and an Israeli here.

Some notes about the prevalence of luck tasks at the end of legs:

We in Israel have a tendency to root for the underdogs, whether it be in a reality show or otherwise - as we can personally relate to them on some levels. Luck tasks bring a fun twist to the legs, as they help underdog teams such as Tali and Gili or Nisim and Orel catch up and pass some teams.

Besides, luck tasks are a way to spark some drama. If a team sees a team which yielded/U-turned them in the final task, there's usually a lot of tension between the two as they race to finish the task and to reach the pitstop, which can lead the yielded team to "break" if passed by teams which yielded them.
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You know, just recently I was asking myself "I wonder how the actual Israeli audience feels about this". I can definitely see where you're coming from and I do understand your point. The big, major problem is how OFTEN this happens. Having a luck task directly before the Pit Stop is (to me, anyway) a little bit iffy but whatever, I'll deal with it. But somewhere like six to eight of the last season's legs ended with one, and so far every single leg of this season has ended to one. That's what I mean when I say that skill is unrewarded. There hasn't been a leg yet where one can just simply "do well and win".

On a lighter note, where in Israel are you from? As time goes on, the land of Israel fascinates me more and more. I swear it's not going to be long until I just 'accidentally' learn how to speak Hebrew.

PAHC:

--- Quote ---On a lighter note, where in Israel are you from? As time goes on, the land of Israel fascinates me more and more. I swear it's not going to be long until I just 'accidentally' learn how to speak Hebrew.
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Oh, near Tel-Aviv. Currently living somewhere in the big metropolis near the coast.

Musicon:
It sounds like the butterfly task had a luck element as well then.  And in that case completely random luck given by another team, unless it was explained to them that one rope would help the other team and it was possible to see where the ropes connected to.

I think you always need to have teams who have some kind of competence.  The main thing is just to balance the nature of the tasks so different kinds of competence are rewarded, such as more mental challenges to balance the physical, head to heads not just being physical.  Or at least not have a huge gaps of ability in the race, having people at a similar level of competence/incompetence.

PAHC:

--- Quote from: Musicon on August 08, 2019, 04:40:48 PM ---It sounds like the butterfly task had a luck element as well then.  And in that case completely random luck given by another team, unless it was explained to them that one rope would help the other team and it was possible to see where the ropes connected to.

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It actually was possible to see where the ropes connected to, with some teams, such as Eyal and Sid, actually trying to work out where the ropes lead to in order to get an advantage, and indeed, one rope helping the other team was actually explained. :)

Show contentBesides, the ropes' order was not changed at all from one H2H to another. Ben and Ran just made the same mistake every time and dropped a lot as a result.

tatasport:

--- Quote from: PAHC on August 08, 2019, 10:32:34 AM ---Hi, recent discoverer of this forum and an Israeli here.

Some notes about the prevalence of luck tasks at the end of legs:

We in Israel have a tendency to root for the underdogs, whether it be in a reality show or otherwise - as we can personally relate to them on some levels. Luck tasks bring a fun twist to the legs, as they help underdog teams such as Tali and Gili or Nisim and Orel catch up and pass some teams.

Besides, luck tasks are a way to spark some drama. If a team sees a team which yielded/U-turned them in the final task, there's usually a lot of tension between the two as they race to finish the task and to reach the pitstop, which can lead the yielded team to "break" if passed by teams which yielded them.

Show contentAlso yeah, Tata, there will be a detour next leg. Between some sort of a task with armadillos and bananas, and a task with turtles, it seems?
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I see! Indeed it creates drama–well even the normal tasks are getting dramatic now as far as I saw it? Double U-Turn like season 3 might work, but it'd be completely massive if there are ties as frequent as season 6 (2 teams, wow).

Show contentDucks and turtles, as far as I saw it. Hope Detour gets more frequent now.
I sometimes feel several tasks are Roadblock-worthy, but guess the organizers saved the hardest/most challenging ones for it, causing more frequent Route Infos (?)
Anyway, thanks for the perspective and bruchim habaim shel RFF!

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