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HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion

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jfarbzz:

--- Quote from: G.B. on September 02, 2019, 10:55:15 PM ---Why is Wikipedia listing "Crowne Plaza Kathmandu-Soaltee" as a destination? Are there spoiler pics of an unaired location?


--- Quote from: jfarbzz on September 02, 2019, 10:47:43 PM ---What? I didn't think this luck task was that bad.

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Because it punished Karin & Ariel. They did so well in this leg and they got punished so hard. That's not fun to watch. But more than that, it's not so much a sigh that there's a luck task, but a sigh that there's STILL a luck task, and it's happening over and over and over and over and over again. If it wasn't after EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN LEG, I wouldn't be sighing so much.

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Look I get that it's annoying but it's better to accept it alright? Neither of us are Israeli, and didn't PAHC say something that Israelis like watching teams have a chance to catch up? It's frustrating as a TAR fan, but you have to understand that it's a different culture that does different things so it's best to think of it from that angle.

Musicon:
Are luck tasks specifically an Israeli cultural thing?  Or is it just a producer's decision?  They didn't have them much before last season from what I've heard.
 
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Show content I thought it probably did have an effect here, though I doubt anyone knows what the exact timings were.  It looked close enough to impact. 

One thing that would help at least partly with luck tasks (though there is obviously still some luck) is if each team has their own patch to work through, as for example in the stones and the branches.  I'm not sure if that was the case with this task or not, but if they are just looking through the same pool of things then those that arrive later will have a smaller pool to look through.

Another general point is that because they get carried everywhere by taxis you'd think they'd be featured more, often you see a team that's obviously been delayed by a bad taxi but it wasn't shown, you have to infer it.  Taxis are just lottery drama but they may as well acknowledge it as much as the luck tasks.  But they often only concentrate on them in the final stretch to the pit stop.

G.B.:
I don't feel like I should have to understand or accept it, because this is new. Older seasons of TAR Israel were amazing, they were incredible, and they didn't have this nonsense. It's a formulaic thing now, and in my opinion that's a very bad thing. I don't think it's something to 'accept' because there was a better way beforehand, and I want them to go BACK.

Even just back in season 5, legs ended with: Roman Numerals math problem, observation task with dancers, African geography quiz, Who Wants to be a Millionaire, Facial recognition challenge, counting people in a crowd, and a hedge maze. The rest of the legs were luck tasks, but it wasn't on ALL of the legs so it was more acceptable.

The further back in time you go, the less luck based tasks before Pit Stops there are, and those are my favourite seasons!

Compared to season 7, legs ended with: luck, luck, luck, luck, luck, luck, luck... THAT is my problem.

Edit: Actually, here. I went back and graphed the whole thing out. This table shows the final task before the Pit Stop of each leg from all seasons. Green means it was not a luck task, while Red means it was a luck task. Orange means it's debatable, as the task is not inherently based around luck, but I feel luck has the most prominent influence on how the task is finished (This usually refers to tasks where people need to interact with locals; the luck-based part of the task in MY opinion is finding the one person out of the crowd who will agree to be on camera and participate). Seasons along the X axis, and legs of the race along the Y axis.

Musicon:
Looking at the wiki there was also an extra delay for being unlucky, if you picked the wrong sheet of paper you had to remake it.  I don't know whether there was much of a skill aspect to that or not where more worthy teams did better or whether it was just a time delaying task, and whether the time delays added up considerably.  I suppose the rocks also had a delay, where racers had to rebalance them.

G.B.:
I think the argument some people make is that some of these tasks have something skill-related to help balance out the luck. For example, rebalancing the rocks.

But does it really? However good or bad you are at rebalancing the rocks, total random luck will still decide if you have to rebuild 5 stacks or 50 stacks.

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