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S35 Ep:14 "Million Dollar Night" 3HR FINALE (12/20)

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Marionete:
I actually don't know if I liked this season more than Game Changers.
So pissed with production. They've lost track of the concept of this show.

... glad this season is over tbh


--- Quote from: georgiapeach on December 20, 2017, 08:28:26 PM ---back AT tribal

Jeff says Chrissy ties record most wins by a woman

(Who was the other? Sandra? ??? )

--- End quote ---
She tied with Kim Spradlin, Kelly Wiglesworth, and Jenna Morasca.
Sandra has never won an individual challenge lol

Marionete:
The sheer idea of this F4 twist is FLAWED, and most fans were quick to spot that.
It is beyond me how production doesn't realize they're implementing an unfair game element.

I actually don't remember feeling so disappointed after a season finale since :dick Caramoan.

Jimmer:
I'm very sad at the way this season ended. I did not want to see Ben winning as I didn't really like him (at least the way he is portrayed). This season now reminds me too much of Flops Apart with Ben idoling/fire making his way to the F3. I still thought Ben played the best game and deserved the win. I really loved Chrissy and would love to see he return, but I thought Ben had more control over the game, even before his idol run and Chrissy never really seized control (although it is very hard to control the game with 3 idols). Even if Devon won Fire Making I believed he should have won over Chrissy.

I felt like the idols were very easy to find, and I wish they were more difficult to find with how frequently they were played it was upsetting that they made it (at least seem) so easy to find them. Also I found the F4 twist complete BS (although it was essentially the same twist as the BBOTT final 3). I don't like it when competitions decide the fates of people and prefer social game to have more of a presence. Also, in general I liked the way F4 going into a F3 FTC politics are and find it very interesting. Either 3 people can gang up on 1 person and vote them out or it just takes one person to flip to make it 2-2 and go into firemaking. I hate that they changed that and it sucks that Jeff sounds like it will be returning in upcoming seasons so that is no fun.

Also I have mixed feelings on the open forum FTC and wish there was at least a little bit of formality where the F3 can give opening/closing remarks and jurors have the opportunity to address the F3 as individuals. But I also like the flow of the open forum, so I would like see more of a mix in upcoming seasons.

Xoruz:
The pros. Much like Game Changers, I enjoyed the new jury format. I feel like it actually allows debate & prevents groupthink. In both cases, neither victory has been a unanimous vote. Also, that final immunity challenge was intense.

Here we go:

Many people believe that there were too many idol/advantages this season. I don’t think that was the problem. In Heroes vs Villains, six idols were played at tribal, and I don’t hear many people complain about that season having too many idols.

However, here’s where the problem lies: why do idols have to be hidden the same way each season? When looking at seasons like HHH & MvGX, every idol was rehidden the same way giving an advantage to anyone who found and played an idol. Listening to Rob Cesternino, his strategy is to play any idol and just find it again because you know how it’s hidden. Also, the fact that the idols literally had a bright X pointing to the hiding spot made finding idols easier this season. Compare this season to HvV in which a variety of contestants were able to find idols due to random hiding spots. We don't need an idol hiding & rehiding theme. In fact, the only idol not hidden with an X was the pasta reward idol (a twist I liked).

For everyone saying that personal stories always result in a win (Jeremy & Adam), Jacklyn in SJDS talked about not having kids during final tribal and she didn’t win. That said, stop with the piano music; it’s an obvious spoiler.

While I’m not pushing the same "too many idols" idea, I wasn’t a fan of how Ben won in a Mike Holloway fashion. I know some people like that, but it’s not what I look for in a winner. Some seasons improve when you know the winner. I can’t see this season improving. Also, I know I’m not alone, but that reunion was horrible. Half the time was spent justifying Ben’s win. They talked to like five people. I seriously tuned out.

Disclaimer: I’m sure Ben is a nice person in real life. I’m just commenting on his game in the show.

stekay:

--- Quote from: Marionete on December 21, 2017, 05:52:14 PM ---The sheer idea of this F4 twist is FLAWED, and most fans were quick to spot that.
It is beyond me how production doesn't realize they're implementing an unfair game element.

I actually don't remember feeling so disappointed after a season finale since ****ing Caramoan.

--- End quote ---

Totally agree. The F4 twist practically makes the FIC pointless. Might as well just have all 4 of them make fire and the last to start goes! [/sarcasm] The twist would also suggest a F2 will not be occurring for the foreseeable future, which sucks.

I'm also beyond sick of the idols that literally say "dig here" and you get an idol. It looks so sketchy. To find such an advantage in the game you should have to work for it. Either that or don't do them at all. Production should know by now the social savvy of some players can bring better blindsides than idols. I for one, would've been flabbergasted had Cirie's 3-2-1 boot of Sarah been pulled off instead of 73 advantages being played at once.

Next season's preview looks like it is about to go too far. A parody. A fantasy org. It's stupid, and can easily be manipulated by production.

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