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TAR: Where are we Going? Suggestions for the Future!
Mandoli:
A lot of you (okay, all of you) hit the points I wanted to make.
I want a season where there's no semi-famous or famous teams/people. No bringing on cast members of Survivor/Big Brother. There's a major need for a season full of diversity. I never cared about the blind date season. I never cared about the internet famous season. Bring back teams who are diehard fans.
I think a footrace to the finish line is kind of boring. What season was it when the finish line was at LVMS and the final task was a Roadblock with skydiving? That's the kind of adventure that TAR should include. Make it somewhat difficult to find the finish line. I'm not saying that every season should end on a Roadblock, but make it so that teams are using different methods of transportation to make it to the end. Skydiving was the BEST FINISH EVER. (Sorry for all caps.)
Also - and I'm going to be in the minority here - I kind of liked the family season, and I think it should be brought back. Fortunately for you guys, I don't want another four-person team kind of season. I want blood relations here. No married couples. Just straight parent/child, siblings, cousins... You name it, I want it. Just no more dating couples and mashed up teams.
I agree with the idea that a lot of previously-used countries need to be brought back. Seeing the same countries visited multiple times in the span of X seasons is like beating a dead horse with a stick. Stick a fork in China. It's overdone.
TARUSAFan:
--- Quote from: Mandoli on June 08, 2016, 01:04:54 PM ---A lot of you (okay, all of you) hit the points I wanted to make.
I want a season where there's no semi-famous or famous teams/people. No bringing on cast members of Survivor/Big Brother. There's a major need for a season full of diversity. I never cared about the blind date season. I never cared about the internet famous season. Bring back teams who are diehard fans.
I think a footrace to the finish line is kind of boring. What season was it when the finish line was at LVMS and the final task was a Roadblock with skydiving? That's the kind of adventure that TAR should include. Make it somewhat difficult to find the finish line. I'm not saying that every season should end on a Roadblock, but make it so that teams are using different methods of transportation to make it to the end. Skydiving was the BEST FINISH EVER. (Sorry for all caps.)
Also - and I'm going to be in the minority here - I kind of liked the family season, and I think it should be brought back. Fortunately for you guys, I don't want another four-person team kind of season. I want blood relations here. No married couples. Just straight parent/child, siblings, cousins... You name it, I want it. Just no more dating couples and mashed up teams.
I agree with the idea that a lot of previously-used countries need to be brought back. Seeing the same countries visited multiple times in the span of X seasons is like beating a dead horse with a stick. Stick a fork in China. It's overdone.
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Very well said, we share the same points. I like the idea of that Finale that you are talking about, no footrace just different mode of transport to get to the Finish Line. That skydiving race to the Finish Line in Las Vegas Motor Speedway was from Season 24 (All-Stars). The Family Edition would be better off as a two-team race which I'd like to see rather than the 4-team race with kids. Well we can't avoid them casting a semi-famous or famous teams but they could at least tone it down, maybe at least 1 or 2 teams only. I know there are semi-famous/famous teams who are also diehard fans of the Race but don't put them all in the same season. I can make exceptions to some semi-famous/famous teams casted but absolutely a big NO to Big Brother/Survivor casts, there are many Americans out there who have greater personalities and who could bring more to the Race than them.
gamerfan09:
I'm sorry, but I find it preposterous that TAR24's absolutely horrible "skydive finish wherein it was actually first-come first-served" is actually being considered as a good idea.
Same with the BB/Survivor people, I really do not see the problem?
Brendon & Rachel were the only saving graces of 24 considering how terrible the outcome became.
Ethan & Jenna were too irrelevant yet at least fought to stay in, instead of Jennifer (of Justin & Jennifer) and had way more personality than Laurence & Zac or Jeremy & Sandy.
Alison & Donny provided one of the most memorable eliminations ever considering their giant blowup and walk-away on the mat (which would be replicated 21 seasons later with Bergen & Kurt).
Keith & Whitney were generally just there, but their elimination episode was probably one of the best of the season and they caused the leg 1 mass-quit which is a memorable moment on TAR25?
Jordan & Jeff were generally fun too on a season that was an utter cesspool of entertainment that I can't believe anyone actually enjoyed it (TAR16).
Rob & Amber either made or break TAR7 for you. But you can't deny that they helped bring strategy to the game of The Amazing Race as well as have one of the best eliminations ever on TAR11.
I would rather have these people on and potentially bring viewers with their fans (considering CBS-linked Reality TV is more adaptive to viewers, than say, 'social media stars') than absolutely boring people.
I could not care less how they stuntcast, since it's inevitable. Just bring us good TV for casting and I'll be happy.
TARUSAFan:
Going back to tarflyonthewall’s comment that recent Finale legs have been formulaic. Yes, I agree, it has been predictable, you clearly could predict who’s going to win. Now, Mandoli stated that: “Make it somewhat difficult to find the finish line. I'm not saying that every season should end on a Roadblock, but make it so that teams are using different methods of transportation to make it to the end.” I honestly liked the idea of Mandoli for the sole fact it is different and dynamic. In a way, by making it harder to get the finish line by adding an additional task, let say an obstacle course is an added suspense and more of surprises. For me, I saw what Mandoli wants to point out. She wants an additional task apart from the Detour and the Roadblock to get to the Finish Line, something more climatic, harder and to level out the competition, which for me is welcome. That TAR 24 skydiving to the finish line that you mention that is preposterous is for me and Mandoli’s a good idea. For me that skydiving task had the potential and it could have been better if both team members did it. TAR attempted to do something different once in their Finale and I appreciate that, I look at that perspective. They just need to fix it or take inspiration from it for future seasons.
An additional task before the Pit Stop that could be an inspiration for Finales would include Season 22’s French Polynesia Leg 1, where teams had to construct this v’aa canoe and row to the Pit Stop, that 3-way suspense between Max & Katie, Caroline & Jennifer and Matt & Daniel was suspenseful to watch or TAR Australia 2 where they had to create a wooden raft and row to get to the Pit Stop in the Philippines, it was Lucy & Emilia vs Paul & Steve. Even from Season 26, that Mud Run Obstacle on the 1st leg was actually good. In my opinion, the moving pit stop (boat) and getting there via rowing a canoe in Season 28’s Indonesia 1 leg where Zach & Rachel were eliminated was a breath of fresh air. It was different, it was unique. In a nutshell, as a suggestion, TAR should include an additional task apart from the Roadblock/Detour before the Finish Line. It depends on how TAR will develop it. Putting the Finish Line within the vicinity of the Final Roadblock is really predictable and somehow boring just like Season 27 & Season 28. As Brooke & Claire have mentioned: "They don't call it the Amazing Race for nothin!"
Going back to the whole BB/Survivor, I am firm with what I've said and I've mentioned it in one of my replies above, none of them jumped at me with the exception of Rob & Amber, where they brought their unorthodox gameplay, smartness and in a way some dirty gameplay to a whole new level. The others were really “meh”. For me in my opinion, based on their overall performance, character, personality and their presence in the legs they've competed in, they did not bring much to the table. Most of them were either irrelevant or not memorable or boring. Keith & Whitney (I only noticed them on the premiere episode and when Shelley & Nici blew a fuse on them which led to their elimination), Ethan & Jenna were just practically there. Rachel was absolutely annoying who acted like a kid in Season 20, Season 24 gave her a likable side without Rachel crying like a big baby but that is where it stops for me. Alison (of Alison & Donny) was just having a meltdown with the Walking Dogs Detour in Buenos Aires and a high-stakes relationship with Donny. Going back to what I’ve said, there are many Americans out there who have auditioned but were never picked, for all I know, they could be either average Americans or semi-famous/famous people who have greater personalities and who have a more interesting and intriguing background that could have taken their spot and who could bring more to the Race than them. I can't obviously stop TAR from casting BB/Survivor teams, who am I to do so, but at least they could get better ones from BB/Survivor if they were to cast ones for a specific season. Some of them that they casted before are just a waste of a spot on TAR. The only positives I could draw from them is only them bringing in more viewers which are their fans which you've mentioned. Just my 2 cents.
gamerfan09:
For those who think races to the Finish Line aren't a good idea, just watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/v/XC_PVQDWq-A
Still one of the best finishes of the show EVER. TAR8 also came close with the Bransen and Linz footrace to the Finish Line.
I would argue that Finale legs having the Finish Line close to the final tasks are producers trying to recreate magic... but excruciatingly fail (TAR28) or poorly implement it (TAR27 imagine if Justin & Diana finishing the final task so close to Kelsey & Joey. The latter could have still won and the former would still fall to an obnoxious crying finish but it would be much more suspenseful. Instead, the latter was just shown running alone while the former bitched and moaned. It could easily have been edited to be suspenseful, but the editors took the easy way out and phoned it in.).
And I also think TAR18 with the bike race was an attempt to do a cool "task to the finish" ending, but since Kisha & Jen seemed so far ahead, not even clever editing could dismiss the fact that the Globes lost lol.
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