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TARloveit:
I have to agree with GB. The main reason why their placements shuffled for the departure time is because of production difficulties (aka the show's fault). If it weren't for those problems, they would have gotten the positions that they got during the departure order.

G.B.:
One of the arguments I gave Ryulong was "For years, we showed Paul & Amie as 4th after they arrived in 5th but were given a credit to move up to 4th" and he was like oh, well I'd better go change it then (facepalm)

tarflyonthewall:
1. Old format. I get that going back and forth is annoying, but even split into paragraphs it's too damn hard to find anything in any of the proposed new formats - and the important details get lost in a sea of "the clue teams received at Tower Bridge told them to...". The reason they're split up to begin with was because we have the little marker logos for Detours and Road Blocks and Fast Forwards, and we don't have them for random extra tasks. I also don't think "this is how other shows do it, therefore this is how we must do it" will work. Because if you haven't noticed, TAR is not like other shows.

2. Whatever position they are in at the end of the episode should be their listed order, with other changes included as part of the notes. That's the only real middle ground between the "but who cares if they left in fourth?" camp and the "but if we listed their arrival order, Heather and Eve would be first for the leg where they got eliminated!" camp. Generally penalties are mentioned in the first episode but time credits aren't (yes, I know there are exceptions to this, but whatever), and I think that makes perfect sense.

albiegato:
My position on the results table debate is:
1) if the changes in positions is acknowledged on the show (this episode or the next), the positions should reflect the end result. For example: Terrence & Sarah in the Cambodia leg in season 13. Phil didn't tell them that they were penalized on the mat, but it was mentioned on the show. They arrived in 3rd place, but left in 5th place. Therefore, they would should be in 5th place for that leg.
2) If the change isn't mentioned on the show, the pit stop arrival would be used. For example: in Asia 2, Diane & Ann's and Natasha & Paula's positions changed between legs without being acknowledged, so the leg arrivals were used instead of the departures.

The argument here is that no official sources say what actually happened. We could infer (and be probably right, but nothing is confirmed). The gray area then is whether non-official acknoledgements count, such as the TAR 24 Leg 1 positions. Since the reason behind the position changes was tweeted, but no official statement or notes were made, does this count or not. Current rule is that it doesn't count, since ... well, it's a tweet, not exactly the best of the best. There are also rules regarding original research and other things...

G.B.:
The RFF Wiki's down! o:

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