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georgiapeach:
Exactly Belle, thank you.
 
This IS a speculation thread. But if you ARE speculating, you still need to say so CLEARLY.

Re-read what theschnauzers says please, he has it 100%.

--- Quote from: theschnauzers on December 16, 2013, 12:53:40 PM ---gamerfan09, please look at the way you referenced Margie-Luke; you said "when" and "there was" as to an HOO, both of which presupposes that what you are saying are facts, and does not indicate in any way that it was speculation (which might be shown by the words "if" and "there may have been.")
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This is RFF, not Sucks, jet...so we do things our way here.  Regardless of whose spoilers you are quoting, HERE you must be VERY clear on what you are stating.  When you are speculating, say so. If you can prove it, show us how. And remember that sourced spoilers are not considered facts without backup.

Sourced spoilers can be accurate. They can also be and are sometimes wrong. They are basically a spoiler that someone else told you. Their reliability depends on where the info is coming from. Sources can be right, or can be wrong, or just can be misinterpreted. We have all had that happen, here at RFF also. Recently, you have only to look at how many changes were made in Cleo's cast list for 24 and even the latest bootlist spoilers to realize that mistakes can be made, info can change.
 
So what sets RFF apart is that whenever possible, we do not rely ONLY on "sourced info" but try to confirm it by other means. Sourced info can certainly be used for guidance, but it is not "proven". Unless and until there is clearcut (preferably photographic) or other first hand corroborative evidence (permits, eye witness accounts etc), any "sourced" info is considered speculative only. No matter who is saying it. So whether the current Sucks bootlist eventually turns out to be right or not, it is for now, at RFF anyway, "speculation" and not fact.
 
Hope that helps.

Zeebra:

--- Quote from: georgiapeach on December 16, 2013, 03:03:44 AM ---
--- Quote from: gamerfan09 on December 15, 2013, 10:34:39 AM ---To be honest, I think after Margie & Luke got eliminated, there was an HoO of sorts in Sri Lanka 2. Because there is no way that that giant time span would allow Brenchel to catch up and CaroJen to fall to last.

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We do NOT know when Margie and Luke were eliminated. We all need to remember that NOT seen does NOT always mean NOT there. We need much more info before making assumptions. :tup:

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--- Quote from: couchracer on December 16, 2013, 04:39:45 PM ---I understand. It is best to say maybe or even probably to things not supported by pictures.
Yes this is for speculation, word it like speculation not like fact.

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--- Quote from: georgiapeach on December 16, 2013, 03:03:44 AM ---
--- Quote from: gamerfan09 on December 15, 2013, 10:34:39 AM ---To be honest, I think after Margie & Luke got eliminated, there was an HoO of sorts in Sri Lanka 2. Because there is no way that that giant time span would allow Brenchel to catch up and CaroJen to fall to last.

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We do NOT know when Margie and Luke were eliminated. We all need to remember that NOT seen does NOT always mean NOT there. We need much more info before making assumptions. :tup:

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hi I'm new so I'm not that sure how to use this but I know that miss Cleo thinks it's 2 n.e.ls in a row 1 for brenchel then 1 for country but I'm not so sure it is but they did do 2 in a row on the 1st all stars so could someone clarify for me?

georgiapeach:

--- Quote from: gamerfan09 on December 16, 2013, 04:20:28 PM ---But Brenchel was spotted IN SPAIN IN THE FINAL FIVE.

Also, during the Italy live RB sightings, all teams but Brenchel and Margie & Luke were seen, and since Brenchel's in the F5, this means Margie & Luke are 8th. Just saying.


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How do you KNOW Seville is final 5? How do you know ALL teams were seen...how do you know how many were actually starting in Rome?? How do you know Brenchel remains in the Final 5...were they seen later?  There is SO much we are unsure of...and that's where the fun is.
 
Everything in Blue is speculation. Spec's do not necessarily make a Red fact. Could be, could not be. We need more evidence.

Zeebra:

--- Quote from: georgiapeach on December 16, 2013, 05:31:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: gamerfan09 on December 16, 2013, 04:20:28 PM ---But Brenchel was spotted IN SPAIN IN THE FINAL FIVE.

Also, during the Italy live RB sightings, all teams but Brenchel and Margie & Luke were seen, and since Brenchel's in the F5, this means Margie & Luke are 8th. Just saying.


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How do you KNOW Seville is final 5? How do you know ALL teams were seen...how do you know how many were actually starting in Rome?? How do you know Brenchel remains in the Final 5...were they seen later?  There is SO much we are unsure of...and that's where the fun is.
 
Everything in Blue is speculation. Spec's do not necessarily make a Red fact. Could be, could not be. We need more evidence.

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ok that makes more sense :cmas27. Thx btw are there any ideas on the 2 missing legs I think that it will go Germany-morocco- Spain / Italy-morocco-Spain / Tunisia-morocco-Spain what does every one else think?

georgiapeach:

--- Quote from: Zeebra on December 16, 2013, 05:17:45 PM ---
 hi I'm new so I'm not that sure how to use this but I know that miss Cleo thinks it's 2 n.e.ls in a row 1 for brenchel then 1 for country but I'm not so sure it is but they did do 2 in a row on the 1st all stars so could someone clarify for me?

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 :welcome: to RFF , Zeebra!

The clarification is that what someone thinks is not necessarily fact. Without supporting evidence it is important to understand that it remains speculation. We know that the Caroline and Jennifer have ONE speedbump, thanks to a photo. That is fact. The rest is speculation.
 
And please understand that SPECULATION is wonderful!! It is how we put ALL the info thru the wringer, sort it all out, and come to some educated conclusions. The way someone presents something here often opens my own eyes to new possibilities that perhaps I hadn't thought of. I LOVE everyone of your thoughts and ideas! Speculation is HOW we get to where we are going, it is not a bad word. The more speculaton the better!! All we are saying is to be very clear about what is fact and what is not....

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