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It's getting ugly out there!
theamazingracer21:
--- Quote from: Kate04 on July 16, 2013, 09:19:44 AM ---On the plus side, she makes Dan and Shelley look tame, and I thought they played a real dirty game.
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How could you compare Dan and that thing (Aaryn). Dan play like that for strategy (sure he told some big lies and made promises and then stabbed them in the back but it was all for gameplay) while that thing on the other hand has racial issues
Kate04:
--- Quote from: Leilani on July 16, 2013, 10:06:47 AM ---I don't think she should be pulled because that will reinforce in her mind her "victim" status. She really doesn't seem to comprehend just how wrong her words and actions are so pulling her from the game is just going to "prove" to her that CBS set her up to look bad. She may never get it, but I think leaving her in there to feel the criticism of her housemates until she is evicted and comes out to face the music is the best chance of ever getting her to realize that she may need to change her ways. Her comments are inexcusable, but it sadly is a realistic portrayal of the way some people feel and (even though I like watching the show) Big Brother really is a microcosm of this country and a lot of the things that are going wrong in it.
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If she is simply evicted, she will just feel she is one of the many who eventually get evicted on BB. She has even commented that evicting her would be the smart thing for them to do (don't have her exact words, but that was the idea.)
However, if they pull her she will become an example of how that kind of racism is not going to be tolerated. She will become the pariah that she deserves to be.
Leilani:
I don't have the feeds so I'm only going by what I have read on the live feed updates, but it appears that her allies are starting to try and distance themselves from her. It's possible I'm missing something as I sometimes have a hard time following the updates. (Not a knock at the folks doing the updates I know it's a hard job.) If Jeremy goes and Kaitlyn turns her back on Aaryn; then, all she really has left is possibly GinaMarie. Maybe it's wishful thinking, but if the whole house shuns her before she goes out she might just start to see the light. The only thing lonelier than being alone is being alone in a house full of people.
The arguments for getting her out through eviction or dismissal are all valid. It's just a question of which one might have the biggest impact on her.
On a side note, the more I read about GinaMarie the more I think they need to have the men in the white coats waiting for her on her exit. If I recall correctly, there was talk at one point about how her pageants were everything to her and in the house Nick was everything to her. Once she finds out that she has lost her job and realizes that he had no interest in her she's going to completely lose it. While the devilish, sarcastic side of me thinks it would be funny to have Julie tell her that Nick has a special message for her, hand her an envelope and say "GinaMarie you've been served" (would make a good parody - see Will Heuser's youtube channel), the good, kindhearted side of me thinks she is unstable enough to harm herself when everything comes crashing down.
HurricaneHowieWood:
CBS's CEO Les Moonves spoke to the Television Critics Association, and made some comments on the Big Brother Racial issues this season...
TCA: CBS CEO Leslie Moonves Appalled by ‘Big Brother’ Racial Slurs But Defends Show Casting
Deadline.com By LISA DE MORAES, TV Columnist
“I find some of the behavior absolutely appalling,” CBS CEO Leslie Moonves said this morning of this season’s competition series Big Brother, which has been in the news over the racial slurs some of the competitors have been spewing at housemates. The season is reflective “of how many people feel in the country,” he suggested, noting, “I’ve watched every episode — obviously, my wife would kill me if I didn’t — we discuss it quite a bit (Moonves’ wife, Julie Chen hosts).” He insists the network has handled the season “appropriately.” Asked what he and Chen say about this season on the show, Moonves shot back, “I’m not going to tell you what goes on in my home.”
Moonves, who was filling in for CBS Entertainment president Nina Tassler at the network’s TCA press tour executive session today, acknowledged he is still hands-on with the network’s reality competition series casting, and utterly dismissed a critics’ suggestion the Big Brother edition is evidence that “casting tries too hard.” “You don’t want wallflowers on reality show,” he said. “They are social experiments — trying too hard? I don’t think there’s any such thing.”
At the top of his Press Tour appearance, Moonves announced CBS had picked up another season of Stephen King’s summer miniseries Under The Dome and that King would write the first episode. When one critic noted people can’t survive under a dome indefinitely, Moonves wondered why not. “This is television! It’s a soap…In a lot of ways it’s Dallas in the future,” he said. The Amazon deal makes that show possible, Moonves said. “The whole model of putting on a big summer show has changed. We had to figure out financially how to put on a show of that size and scale. It came down to, the network license fee had to be small. There was a huge international sale and the participation of Amazon. We had to make a deal like never before.” The international market has become increasingly important, particularly for drama financing, Moonves explained, claiming it has, at CBS, jumped from “about $400 million” to “$1.2 billion” in six years.
Another critic took issue with the heavy product placement in the pilot episode of David E. Kelley’s new Robin Williams comedy The Crazy Ones, which is set at an ad agency. The opening episode is all about making a McDonalds ad. Moonves said that storyline was brought to the network and that “McDonalds didn’t receive any money “ for it. He said the series will also include “fictional product.”
CBS has no plans to replace David Letterman in late-night, though he’s now getting beat in demos by ABC’s new time-slot competitor Jimmy Kimmel. “We love having David Letterman — he’s the dean, the best there is,” Moonves said, adding, “We like the stability – despite what people think, we don’t like drama at 11:30.” One critic noted that even good shows with low ratings get cancelled on CBS in primetime, “I don’t consider David Letterman [show] a failure in any way, shape or form,” Moonves responded, insisting the show continues to make money for CBS.
Asked in the scrum after his Q&A about finishing first in the demo, Moonves acknowledged “it helped that American Idol crashed. We always thought it wasn’t a fair fight with Fox. We had 22 hours, they had 15. It’s a big difference. When three of those hours were a monster like American Idol, we never were gonna win…Still think 18-49 is vastly overrated and exaggerated. Fox News’s average viewer is 65-plus and making a ton of money. So 18-49 wasn’t the be-all and end-all.”
As he walked down the ramp off stage, someone asked Moonves how he felt about this being the final season for CBS’s Monday comedy How I Met Your Mother. “I’m heartbroken” he tossed over his shoulder.
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/tca-cbs-ceo-leslie-moonves-appalled-big-brother-163758681.html
onthecusp:
I've never cared for (my usual expletives deleted) Les Moonves and still can't believe Julie Chen married the man.
With that said.....
The racial and homophobic slurs attached to this seasons' BB are unforgiveable and I'm not buying for a minute that my neighbors next door are using them. What a callous and irresponsible thing for a CBS rep to say.
Have they lost their minds?
I remember in the late 60's/early 70's when CBS finally got clearance from the FCC to air Preparation H commercials.
I do have to admit to waiting with bated breath for the reactionary fallout once Spencer, Aaryn, Ginamarie et al, leave the house and face the music. I'm surprised that the studio audience even applauded for Jeremy despite being prompted to do so.
As for me....I'd rather see Aaryn evicted (and soon) to walk out and face Julie amid silence. Aaryn is cluelessly in narcissistic denial and Ginamarie is delusional. I have no excuses for Spencer.
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