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ZouLy:

--- Quote from: Kamineko on May 29, 2012, 01:57:55 AM ---OMG!! So excited!!! :hearts:

If they're going from Gambir Station again, these are the possible schedule for today:





FYI: Berangkat is Departure, Datang is Arrival :tup:

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Given the schedule above,

estimated arrival time in Pasar Turi (the closest train station)

1. 6.25
2. 7.11

estimated travel time to Bangkalan (by car) is 40-45 minutes, but since it's early in the morning it might/might not get a traffic time,

DrRox:
Regarding Phil's  possible travel, Shanghai to Bangkalan.......


--- Quote from: weihen on May 28, 2012, 02:38:25 AM ---1st leg's over.

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The above was posted @  2:38 am CDT May 28, which converts to 3:38 pm May 28 Shanghai time. At that point, Phil is done for the day. Given the distance from the pit stop to the airport......it seems reasonable that he could be at PuDong Airport by 5:30-6:00 pm to fly out.

Looking for flights out of Shanghai on the evening of May 28th.....there is not enough time to arrive in Surabaya before midnight. There is only one daily non stop flight, Shanghai to Jakarta.....the same flight the teams take on May 29. It just doesn't make much sense to keep Phil in Shanghai to fly with those teams.....better to get him to Surabaya earlier and let him rest there. So pretty improbable that he would hang around Shanghai and fly with teams on GA895.

From a production standpoint, it is really not necessary for Phil to even fly to Jakarta. Surabaya has an international airport and receives flights from Taipei, Hong Kong, Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur and Singapore. Not all of these cities have daily flights to Surabaya. On the particular days this takes place, only KL and Singapore will fit a Shanghai to Surabaya route. Phil can actually arrive in Surabaya, BEFORE teams even leave Shanghai.

Shanghi via Kuala Lumpor to Surabaya, Indonesia  May 28/29
MU 539    8:00pm - 12:50 am
AK 1392   6:45 am - 8:25 am

Shanghai via Singapore to Surabaya, Indonesia May 28/29
SQ 835  7:10 pm - 12:30 am
MI 222   7:50 am - 9:10 am

I did make some assumptons.......1) only a two leg/one connection flight. Phil could have done a 3 flight/two connection flight via Jakarta. That just doesn't make much sense to me.

2) both possible routes involve somewhat lengthy layovers in KL and Singapore. We also know that Phil flies Biz Class, so he has a bed to sleep in, on long flights. If production decides to get Phil a hotel room, both airports have very nice hotels in the airport teminal bldgs and he could take the 2nd flights out of each to Surabaya. He would still arrive in Surabaya before noon (via KL) or @ 1:30 pm (via Singapore) and still have plenty of sun to film his standups.

Phil then would have a very nice long time to rest up before having to be at the Pit Stop at the end of Leg 2 on May 30th around Bangkalan, somewhere close to probably 18 hours. In all likelihood, Phil may already finished doing his standup as I post this or very close to finishing them.

I think that the long train ride is a given for several reasons:
1) makes teams arrive in Bangkalan in daylight for HD filming. I just don't see them filming an episode in beautiful Indonesia in the dark. So I look at the train ride as a moving HoO.

2) keeps teams uncomfortable.....no beds on train. Plus, easier security for Production. 

3) Gives Phil time to catch up on sleep in a non-moving bed for first time since leaving LAX.

According to Peach in the Live Sightings Thread........there is no train ride this time.

Xarles:
If teams are flying to Surabaya, first flight in should be Garuda 324 arriving at 8am Tuesday EDT.

chal_uf:
This is flight schedule from jakarta to surabaya today http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByAirport.do

apskip:
Like the race designers keeping Phil ahead of the AR21 racers, it is our job to stay one leg ahead of the race progress. That means anticipating potential flights one leg at a time. I have developed some categories to make this clearer since there are many dozens of flights to any large airports throughout Australasia and onward to many other airports from those places. Those knowledgeable with combinatorial mathematics know that this creates a matrix that is quickly unmanageable. To bring a minimum amount of order, some assumptions are always necessary. 

I have developed 4 categories for where we stand leaving Denpasar tomorrow:
1. flights from Surabaya to Denpasar (because Bali has not been involved on an Amazing Race ever and Amazing Race Asia I think once)
2. flights from Surabaya to overseas (highlighting the ones I see to SIN, KUL and HKG)
3. flights from Surabaya to other cities around Indonesia except Jakarta
4. flights from Surabaya to Jakarta for the purpose of connecting there to elsewhere overseas (with Guangzhou and Kuala Lumpur especially)

All of the flights below except for two at 905am are between 6am and 9am from Surabaya and 8am to 9am from Jakarta.

From Surabaya to Denpasar:
MZ802 0610
IW1800 0735
Y6 755 0830

From Surabaya to Hong Kong:
CI780 0815

From Surabaya to Singapore:
CI752 0605
JT104 0800

From Surabaya to Kuala Lumpur:
AK1393 0850

From Surabaya to Jakarta
choice of 6 different flights in the 6am to 9am time frame

If it is a flight to Jakarta, the odds are high that it will not fly just there but will be a connection to one of these places (not including either HKG or SIN since you can fly nonstop there from SUB so why would you go to Jakarta to get there):

KUL AS1391 0835 JT285 0905
CAN GA898  0855  OR CZ388 0905
 

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